British journalist about the position of the West: I am confused. Anyone explain to me?

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Neil Clark - columnist for The Guardian, Morning Star, Daily Express and many other newspapers - published an article about double standards and contradictions in the position of the West. The author is concerned about the issues why, supporting the Maidan, Western politicians do not honor their attention with the protests in Europe, and the bloody invasion of Iraq, in their opinion, is more democratic than the referendum in Crimea.

I'm confused. A few weeks ago we were told in the West that people who occupied government buildings in Ukraine are good. These people, told us by our political leaders and media commentators, "Protest for democracy". The US government warned the Ukrainian authorities against using force against these "Democratic protesters"- even if, as we have seen, some of them are neo-Nazis, who throw “Molotov cocktails” and other objects at the police, smash statues and set fire to buildings.

Now, after only a few weeks, we are told that people who occupied government buildings in Ukraine are not "Democratic protesters," and "terrorists" or "militants."

Why was it good to seize government buildings in Ukraine in January, and it became very bad in April? Why is the use of force by the authorities against the protesters completely unacceptable in January, but is it acceptable now? I repeat: I'm confused. Anyone explain to me?

In winter, anti-government demonstrators in Ukraine visited some prominent Western politicians, including Senator John McCain and Victoria Nuland from the State Department, who distributed cookies. In recent weeks, major anti-government protests have taken place in many Western European countries. But they did not receive such support either from these people or from observers from the leading Western media. Protesters also did not receive free cookies from US State Department officials.

Probably, if McCain and Nuland so loved anti-government street protests in Europe and saw them as a genuine form of “democracy,” would they show solidarity with the demonstrators in Madrid, Rome, Athens, and Paris? I'm confused. Anyone explain to me?

A few weeks ago, I watched an interview with US Secretary of State John Kerry. He said: "You can not just invade another country under a false pretext to defend their interests." But I seem to recall that over the past 20 years, the United States has repeatedly done just that.

Maybe I forgot the statements that Iraq has weapon mass destruction? Maybe in 2002 and the beginning of 2003, I had a dream about how politicians and neocon experts appeared every day on television to tell us, mob, that we must fight Iraq because of the threat from the deadly arsenal of Saddam? Why is the democratic vote in the Crimea on reunification with Russia worse than the cruel, bloody invasion of Iraq - the invasion, which killed about a million people? I'm confused. Anyone explain to me?

In addition, Western politicians and media "experts" with a serious look told us that the Crimean referendum is invalid because it was held under the conditions of "military occupation". But I just watched reports on the elections in Afghanistan, which are held under conditions of military occupation. Western leaders, such as NATO chief Anders Fogh Rasmussen, praised them as “historical moment for Afghanistan ”and the great success of“ democracy. ” Why is the vote in the Crimea debited and the elections in Afghanistan extolled? I'm confused. Will someone explain to me?

Syria is also very puzzling. We have been told and said that radical Islamist groups are a grave threat to peace, security and our "way of life" in the West. That al-Qaida and other similar groups should be destroyed, that we need to wage an incessant "war on terror" against them. However, in Syria, our leaders sided with such radical groups in their war against a secular government that respects the rights religious minorities, including Christians.

When the bombs of al-Qaeda and its allies explode in Syria and innocent people die, our leaders do not blame it. They only condemn the secular Syrian government, which fights against radical Islamists and whose overthrow is desperately craved by our leaders and media commentators. I'm confused. Anyone explain to me?

And gay rights. We are told that Russia is a very bad and backward country, because it adopted a law prohibiting the promotion of homosexuality among minors. However, our leaders, who have boycotted the Winter Olympics in Sochi because of this law, are visiting the countries of the Persian Gulf, where homosexuals can be jailed and even executed. And they warmly welcome the local rulers, not mentioning the rights of gays.

Perhaps the imprisonment or execution of gays is much worse than a law that prohibits the promotion of homosexuality among minors? Why do our leaders, if they are so genuinely concerned about the rights of homosexuals, attack Russia, and not those countries where gays are jailed or executed? I'm confused. Anyone explain to me?

In numerous newspaper articles we are told that the Hungarian ultranationalist party "Jobbik" is very bad. Her rise causes great concern, although this party is not even represented in the government and is unlikely to be there. However, in Ukraine, neo-Nazis and ultranationalists occupy posts in the new government, which our Western leaders enthusiastically support. In February, neo-Nazis and the ultra-right played a key role in overthrowing the democratically elected government of Ukraine, in a “revolution” that the West welcomed. Why are ultranationalists and ultra-right groups unacceptable in Hungary, but acceptable in Ukraine? I'm confused. Anyone explain to me?

We are told that Russia is an aggressive, imperialist power, and that NATO is worried about countering the Russian “threat”. But the other day I looked at the map: I saw that a lot of NATO countries are bordering or are nearby - a US-led military alliance, whose members have been bombed and attacked many countries over the past 15 years. But I didn’t see a single country near America that was part of the Russian military alliance; I didn’t see Russian military bases or missiles in countries bordering on the States or nearby. And yet we are told that the “aggressor” is Russia. I'm confused. Anyone explain to me?
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  1. +20
    April 21 2014 06: 18
    The politeness of the city takes the Crimea as an example, soon the whole Southeast will live in peace!
    1. +16
      April 21 2014 06: 28
      In the EU and the United States, schizophrenia begins. They write and say that Russia is evil, and their own people, on the one hand, believe all this, and on the other they themselves understand that they are the aggressors.

      The article is very common. Not only on this site found her ...
      1. +42
        April 21 2014 06: 49
        Their people believe this less and less. And more and more begins to wonder who their media serve and why, like democracy, and sheer lies and slogans. I had an idea - to invite ours with RTR and RT to invite theirs CNN to a duel. Choose Crimea as a theme. Conduct a teleconference, call for a live broadcast to Russia and the United States. Prepare in advance examples / videos of their lies. You can Kosovo, like "the Serbs cut the Albanian village", which later turned out to be a lie, which was proved by experts from Finland, about which ALL Western media stupidly kept silent.
        For our part, expose Kiselev, Solovyov, Mamontov. I think they will tear CNN to a rag, and in the USA then only Russia Today will be entrusted.
        In the event of CNN's refusal to fight, to trumpet the whole world about it.
        1. +6
          April 21 2014 07: 09
          Quote: Magadan
          RTR and RT invite their CNN to a duel.

          Very good idea, but how do you bring it to life?
          Do you think they don’t understand that they have no chance in this fight? Yes they understand perfectly, otherwise they wouldn’t be engaged in censoring information and throwing out frank shit into the brain of the electorate!
          1. +1
            April 21 2014 08: 05
            We need to ask V. Pozner to organize all this. lol
            1. +1
              April 21 2014 10: 43
              Pozdner? Liberast? not funny (
        2. +2
          April 21 2014 07: 54
          Quote: Magadan
          invite our with RTR and RT to invite their CNN to a duel

          With all desire, it won’t end well. For RT / RTR, English is not native, it is like starting a game of hockey with a player removed until the end of the match without the right to replace. A translation, no matter how good, is not a phrase composed by a person who thinks in this language. And the public believes in a well-suspended language rather than facts, especially if they themselves do not know the facts. And then you think due to what all sorts of Clintons and Obama choose?
        3. +1
          April 21 2014 08: 13
          Quote: Magadan
          I had an idea - to offer our with RTR and RT to invite their CNN for a duel. Theme to choose Crimea.

          If my memory serves me right, then a similar attempt was made in 99-2000. Not specifically with CNN. It was proposed to conduct a teleconference in general with the Western media. The theme was to be Chechnya. Westerners refused on the pretext that this topic is not interesting to the Western audience.
      2. +1
        April 21 2014 07: 02
        Quote: Sunjar
        The article is very common. Not only on this site found her ...

        But it is interesting, how much more blood should be shed on earth, that would finally reach this "progressive humanity"!
        Their multi-vector standards somehow stupidly come to mind! I don’t think that McCain tells his granddaughters tales in which killers are good, lifeguards are bad. That is, he wants them to understand where good is and where evil is .. .And you???
        The British have a saying "My country is wrong, but this is my country!"
        Our liberals, as a call to action, but until
        Can we turn a blind eye to this "wrongness" of the country?
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      4. ABV
        0
        April 21 2014 13: 28
        Quote: Sunjar
        The article is very common. Not only on this site found her ...

        we ourselves know all this .... but on the other side of the barricades we would have read more of it to the people, that’s where the importance of the moment is!
    2. +18
      April 21 2014 06: 30
    3. +23
      April 21 2014 06: 31
      Posted by Neil Clark You need to do a genetic analysis, you definitely don’t have pure British blood! There must be Slavs in your ancestors ... it’s painfully sensible, you argue! this is not taught either at harvard or in sorbonne ... laughing
    4. platitsyn70
      +2
      April 21 2014 06: 35
      one cannot be the other; this is European democracy.
      1. +3
        April 21 2014 07: 13
        Quote: platitsyn70
        one cannot be the other; this is European democracy.

        At one time, someone, it seems, is a very democratic President FD Roosevelt, said about the Nicaraguan dictator Anastasio Somosu Sr. something like this: "He is a Cykin's son, but he is our Cykin's son."
        So for the West, the pro-Western Maidan people are our Cykins sons, and therefore good. But if the cykins are sons of Putin or, even worse, their own, even if they are not quite cykins or even completely cykins, they are bad, because they are not ours. Something like that.
        However, the Soviet Union supported the terrorists of Arafat or the Northern Irish Republicans, and they also did not indulge in clappers, and killed civilians, including women and children. So nothing in this world is new.
        1. +3
          April 21 2014 08: 01
          In addition, Western politicians and media "experts" told us seriously that the Crimean referendum was invalid because it was held under the conditions of "military occupation." But I just watched the reports about the elections in Afghanistan, which take place under military occupation. Western leaders, such as NATO leader Anders Fogh Rasmussen, praised them as a “historical moment for Afghanistan” and a great success for “democracy”. Why is voting in Crimea deducted from the accounts, and elections in Afghanistan extolled? I'm confused. Anyone explain to me?
          Something the author forgot about Germany, in which there is a decent contingent of the American army, it can also be considered occupied by US troops. In this situation, all the elections held in Germany since May 1945 can be considered held in the occupied territory under the sights of the assault rifles of the occupiers, and accordingly are invalid and not legitimate.
    5. +1
      April 21 2014 07: 51
      The last paragraph is the essence of not only the entire article, but also the entire current world order.
    6. Validator
      0
      April 21 2014 09: 00
      And we just all very well understood!
    7. 0
      April 21 2014 15: 26
      We are told that Russia is an aggressive, imperialist power, and that NATO is worried about countering the Russian “threat”. But the other day I looked at the map: I saw that a lot of NATO countries are bordering or are nearby - a US-led military alliance, whose members have been bombed and attacked many countries over the past 15 years. But I didn’t see a single country near America that was part of the Russian military alliance; I didn’t see Russian military bases or missiles in countries bordering on the States or nearby. And yet we are told that the “aggressor” is Russia. I'm confused. Anyone explain to me?

      This is where the whole truth of the global situation lies, namely, the United States, under the guise of a peaceful defender, is conquering countries, like a wolf eating a sheep from Krylov, but thank God there was a bear that would fight him back.
  2. philip
    +2
    April 21 2014 06: 22
    Protesters also did not receive free cookies from US State Department officials.

    Maybe the paper is over. Connect a couple of paper mills. can help cookies distribute,,,
  3. +4
    April 21 2014 06: 23
    The most positive thing in this article is that the people living in the West began to turn on the brain and fair questions arise.
    1. +6
      April 21 2014 06: 26
      Quote: Sakhalininets
      that the people living in the West began to turn on the brain

      So, according to the GDP, he said that he began to turn directly to the people of the West and not to the litter of the United States who are in power. Looks like they began to listen correctly GDP calculated!
      1. +1
        April 21 2014 08: 59
        avant-garde
        So, according to the GDP, he said that he began to turn directly to the people of the West and not to the litter of the United States who are in power. Looks like they began to listen correctly GDP calculated!

        It seems to me that we are on the verge of a grandiose rascal!
        How much all this fuss with Ukraine would not end for the EU and the USA with a world revolution!
        The cause of Lenin lives on!
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    2. +2
      April 21 2014 06: 36
      Quote: Sakhalininets
      that the people living in western states began to turn on the brain

      Yes, he doesn’t turn on such articles, there are only a few such articles, the rest of the biomass firmly believes in the horrors that they are presented in the news. A bunch offers to fight with Russia, without even thinking how it will end for them. Where is the brain here?
      1. +4
        April 21 2014 07: 13
        Fact, such articles are units. But the fact that they are is already good. Well, in general, the article is well written.
  4. +8
    April 21 2014 06: 24
    Neil Clark is perplexed, but the small chest opens simply. The rise of their country is based on the looting and deception of the natives. The natives are more difficult to fool, therefore they fool their own.
    1. +1
      April 21 2014 07: 24
      Quote: Humpty
      It’s more and more difficult to fool the Uzbeks, therefore they fool their people.

      Talk about the double standards of the West - yesterday. Now there is a new wave, the so-called wave of destruction of designations.
      Now for each treaty it is necessary to separately prescribe words and their designations in the concept of the politicians of this country. And it turns out that the meaning of "no-flight zone" in the West means carpet bombing.
  5. +18
    April 21 2014 06: 24
    I'm confused. Will someone explain to me?

    so what is there to explain:
  6. +2
    April 21 2014 06: 25
    Great article. It may not be surprising in content, since we have already discussed all this on the forum many times, and have seen and heard many times our politicians discuss these issues in the central media. But she is good precisely because it is written by a British journalist. Those. journalist of a country that has at all times been opponents of Russia (now through the United States).
    It would be great, although unlikely, if these thoughts reached ordinary people, and especially if these thoughts were voiced in European parliaments.
    1. JoylyRoger
      +1
      April 21 2014 06: 39
      But this is unlikely. If they have double standards for us, then they have almost three standards for their inhabitants, and given the wit noticed by Zadornov, all the more so.
      1. 0
        April 21 2014 07: 47
        It would be great ...

        I wrote in the format "dreaming is not harmful, it is harmful not to dream."
  7. +1
    April 21 2014 06: 25
    `` It's your fault that I want to eat ''
  8. gavr002
    +1
    April 21 2014 06: 26
    There are sane people in the west!
  9. +1
    April 21 2014 06: 28
    And what is there to explain? Double standards in all its glory.
  10. +1
    April 21 2014 06: 30
    The life-saving affair of the old Europe began to include brains. Mostly true, but the process has begun.
    PS. They will interfere with her.
  11. +18
    April 21 2014 06: 33
    We thought that they didn’t like us because we were “red”, and we didn’t like us because we were Russian.
    1. JoylyRoger
      +9
      April 21 2014 06: 37
      Even more, even Alexander the Third, noted that they would always not understand us and be afraid of our size
  12. +3
    April 21 2014 06: 37
    Quote: Al_lexx
    Great article. It may not be surprising in content, since we have already discussed all this on the forum many times, and have seen and heard many times our politicians discuss these issues in the central media. But she is good precisely because it is written by a British journalist. Those. journalist of a country that has at all times been opponents of Russia (now through the United States).

    I would like to believe that it is the British journalist who writes this. It is this truth that we are trying to convey to the ears of the western man in the street. Maybe it will reach them.
  13. 0
    April 21 2014 06: 38
    The anti-Russian hydra has so many goals and actions. We chop off the fuck of the head, and there the clarity of mind manifests itself in the west
  14. +2
    April 21 2014 06: 39
    What a strange American ... Kramolu writes ... Is he healthy?
  15. 0
    April 21 2014 06: 40
    The media are not free, they are the main weapon of the information war, and the more famous the agency, the more pressured it is. Today, even the Internet is not able to be neutral, any dissent is sent to the stake.
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    2. +2
      April 21 2014 07: 59
      It is time for Russia to impose sanctions against the West for the lack of democracy and freedom of speech in their countries, as well as for supporting the Nazis and neo-Nazis.
  16. Tanechka-clever
    +1
    April 21 2014 06: 41
    I'm confused too. What the United States is doing in Ukraine, but the Maidan, which hungered the liver like hunger for both cheeks - although for me the Ukrainian borsch with donuts is tastier, does not know this either. Let Turchinov and Yatsenyuk then explain this to the people of the southeast.
  17. +2
    April 21 2014 06: 48
    What is it? Insight? Or preparation for an offensive against the Nazis, preparation through such, at first, few articles of the allegedly seen? And then there will be more and more "those who have seen the light", more and more pious articles And more directional? Wait and see.
    1. +1
      April 21 2014 07: 04
      What is it? Insight? Or preparing an attack on the Nazis


      That's right, the West is disowning its Ukrainian sixes. After a while, the same Nuland will declare
      - You are dominated by national fascists, and I thought you were democrats, as you deceived me, and I believed you, the cookies brought ...
  18. +1
    April 21 2014 06: 48
    probably all the cookies were eaten as usual ...
  19. +2
    April 21 2014 07: 05
    laughing Today, someone in the West calls Clark the "fifth column", demands that he be shot immediately and expelled from the country what So he still did not mention Libya, where, grateful, for the bombed democracy, the "rebels" banged the American ambassador. Yes
  20. +2
    April 21 2014 07: 07
    Wonderful article by Julietto Chiesa
    http://www.nakanune.ru/articles/18886/
    Meaning: people in the west believe that Putin occupied Ukraine. And they are not at all building the logical chain of Kosovo-Iraq-Libya-Syria-Ukraine.
    Someone will create war conditions somewhere. Why war? Can we do without war? Here it is necessary to clarify: war is necessary because resources will not be enough for everyone for half of this century. The organizers of September 11 already knew what would happen now, because they had information, but we don’t have it.
  21. +1
    April 21 2014 07: 09
    “I'm confused.” Why ???
  22. +3
    April 21 2014 07: 13
    When Russia begins to explain to the opponent that he is wrong, then this always somehow ends with the Victory Parade. For especially gifted slow-witted people - Nuremberg. And in general, I have never been to Europe and there are many like me - freeloaders who want to ride through quiet European streets at the expense of the RF Ministry of Defense. It is only necessary to choose a route, where the grandfathers walked, it’s inconvenient to go in a second time, but if necessary, let’s go in and say hello.
    PS Tssss while my wife is sleeping I ask, no one knows the Europeans in bed?
  23. 0
    April 21 2014 07: 20
    THIS IS JUST A WAR, WHAT ELSE ISSUES THAT YOU NEED TO EXPLAIN AND SO IT IS UNDERSTANDABLE. ONLY THE BLIND DOES NOT SEE THIS.
  24. Timmir
    +1
    April 21 2014 07: 24
    Good article. What is the strength of the brother in truth. To convey the truth to every person on earth is our task.
  25. serge
    +16
    April 21 2014 07: 27
    According to a group of hackers, after the capture of American mercenaries, a Ukrainian tank and armored personnel carriers by unarmed people, all special forces and officers of the American army were assembled for an urgent briefing.

    “Everything that we knew about Russians and considered fiction turned out to be true,” the CIA director began his speech.
    “These people just stand in front of the tanks until the tank stalls.” And our commandos were captured by people who, tearing apart their vests, began to wave their mobile phones. In this regard, historical excerpts about Matrosov, Gastello, Susanin and a number of archival jokes about Vasily Ivanovich and Petka, which may turn out to be a terrible truth, are of particular concern to us.
    The director of the CIA looked around at the seated and blinked a tear.
    - Know. For whatever I prepare you, no matter how I try to protect you, not everyone will survive. And I'm not talking about clashes with Russians, I'm talking about a briefing.
    At this point, several American officers who were weaker lost consciousness and crawled from chairs to the floor. The CIA Director looked at the audience over his glasses:
    - That's exactly what I'm talking about. Now we are hastily running through the super-computer all the available information on Russians, and where the words "feat" and "stand for the Russian land" appear, the figures of Ilya Muromets, who have been lying on the stove for 33 years and ...
    A young first-line special agent specified:
    - What is a stove?
    “Hammer-sized bread baking agent that is burning wood ...”
    Several people from the audience silently got up and left, unfastening their holsters. Single shots and the sound of fallen bodies were heard in the corridor, and the CIA director continued the briefing.
    - Before the battle, Russian heroes cheer themselves up and are going to "show valiant prowess", which we naively considered a saying, and not at all a demonstration of penises to enemies for the purpose of intimidation. At first, we thought that the Russians were planning to just scare us with a length, but now our crypto-ethnographers already believe that the demonstration by the Russians of valiant prowess formed the basis of the Greek myth about Medusa the Gorgon.
    ... The head of a specialist technician serving a supercomputer stuck through the door. He was disheveled, unshaven, and his red, sore eyes spoke of many days without sleep.
    - Chef, our artificial intelligence has created a victory algorithm. The answer is for some reason in Russian ...
    “They hacked into our computer?”
    - No, he just finished the analysis of the whole history of the Russian world, displayed a response to the screen, spontaneously sang the Russian anthem and disconnected ...
    - So the computer answered something ?!
    - "Not a damn thing will come of you, s! Russians - do not give up! He went to his own."

    (http://javdet.livejournal.com)
  26. +1
    April 21 2014 07: 37
    I would like to see how the Western audience met this article .....
    1. +2
      April 21 2014 07: 47
      Yes, probably not at all. For democracy triumphs and this article, most likely, will not reach the masses.
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      2. +3
        April 21 2014 08: 44

        Something comes to the masses
  27. +1
    April 21 2014 07: 45
    Nobody has canceled the Internet yet. If you want to find the truth, you will find. Only the feeling that no one wants to look for her.
  28. +1
    April 21 2014 07: 46
    Very intelligible, nothing to add. Too bad the article is for local use.
  29. +2
    April 21 2014 07: 47
    The journalist asks good questions, no matter how he earned money from his rulers. RUSSIA has been asking similar questions throughout its centuries-old history, and in response he hears that you are aggressors, invaders, occupiers, you are not a democratic country, you are persecuted "fighters for rights You do not want to touch the great, the only true Western values, etc., etc., and such a day in this vein is constantly heard in response.
  30. 0
    April 21 2014 07: 50
    author well done !!! more to those who open their eyes to the West
  31. +2
    April 21 2014 07: 55
    When facts are presented, not speculation, a normal article is obtained. The level of mind and aspiration of each side is immediately visible. Bravo Nile
  32. +2
    April 21 2014 08: 05
    and Victoria Nuland from the Department of State distributing cookies.

    These cookies from Nuland will soon become the same symbol of betrayal as the biblical 30 pieces of silver ...
    1. alin12
      +1
      April 21 2014 10: 32
      It has already become! Ukrainians like homeless people in their country for checking P.ros. if. Amazing people
  33. +1
    April 21 2014 08: 07
    Quote: avant-garde
    I'm confused. Will someone explain to me?

    Finally, the West even began to ask smart questions !!! Maybe he will find the answers !!!
  34. paramon
    0
    April 21 2014 08: 08
    Ah well done,
    I shake hands, buddy, if you’re in our area - stop by and discuss the international situation in a bathhouse, for example, in a Russian bathhouse.
  35. GRune
    +1
    April 21 2014 08: 08
    Another honest and adequate journalist. Only no one will hear him and I won’t be surprised if they get fired or imprisoned ...
  36. serge
    +9
    April 21 2014 08: 10
    In western Ukraine, a seismic weapon has been developed under the working title "Who does not jump, that (m) grin". During the tests, the Crimea peninsula fell off.
  37. 0
    April 21 2014 08: 55
    The more Western observers will be wondering:
    Why?...
    All the more questions will arise to your governments whom you serve and whether this policy meets the fair construction of the world order.
    The clearer the words from prayers of the Lord:
    ... and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one. "
  38. 0
    April 21 2014 10: 04
    I am glad that there is someone who thinks HEAD.
  39. 0
    April 21 2014 10: 22
    Everything is a bunch, NATO needs motivation for its existence, and motivation lies in the presence of an ENEMY ... so the guys are trying, somewhere clumsily, stupid, stupid. Again, we must not forget the money side, if NATO "goes out" this is how many "tanks" will float past someone's pockets ...
  40. smeh
    0
    April 21 2014 15: 16
    No explanation to the unexplained
  41. 0
    April 21 2014 15: 23
    Neil Clark is a dangerous man for the foundations of the West, and may suffer for it. With his questions at the end of each topic of discussion, he already exposes the system of double standards in Western politics. And their politicians have nothing to cover, they are at first silent in a rag, allegedly "not noticing" him, and then "pushing" him (and others like him) from the Western media - the measures are simple, like the bellowing of a bull. Neil Clark - our respect! (Respect)
  42. 0
    April 21 2014 16: 28
    you’re writing everything correctly, your nations just need to understand one thing while you are dancing to the tune of the United States, Europe will not have a chance to improve relations with Russia, and this is in our interests, but alas in Europe it is To have your own opinion, it means that either your Norod will force you to listen to the voice of reason, or we will arrange our fuss for you and harm each other, for the sake of the United States and they will again be on a white horse, although for me they even feel sorry for the donkey!
  43. 0
    April 21 2014 17: 01
    On the German insight into the issue of Ukraine http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/3266779/post317663921/
  44. 0
    April 21 2014 20: 22
    There are more such articles with similar questions and to the broad Western masses, so that the brains finally begin to work. You see, not everything is lost for Europe.