US Expansion Program in Eastern Europe

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US Expansion Program in Eastern Europe


US Expansion Program in Eastern Europe.

The main objectives of the program:

Growth of the US economy and expansion of markets due to the territories of Eastern Europe (Ukraine) - this requires:
1. Take control of all government programs of the state object - as we see, it was carried out by controlling the main political forces and leaders who occupied key positions in the state. Turchinov, Yatsenyuk, Klitschko are under the absolute influence of the US government. In fact, the United States transferred the gas system of Ukraine. Currently, active work is underway on the part of the American intelligence services in relation to large defense plants and industrial facilities. The facts of the presence of foreigners at the Kharkov Tractor Plant, the main profile of which is production tanks, Kharkov Aviation Plant, chemical industry plants, such as "Styrene", Gorlovka, Uranium Plant in Kirovograd, etc. The list is quite large.
What will happen: It is necessary to assume that in the coming year some of these objects will fall into the hands of Americans. Objects that are captured will start working on the US economy.



2. Make an assessment and affect the entire business elite of the state object, in order to absorb part of the business and capital - as we see, it was implemented very successfully. Representatives of a large business elite Poroshenko, Kolomoisky, Akhmetov, Firtash, Taruta, Novinsky are actually controlled by the Americans, or as a result of a direct threat to business and capital loss Firtash, Akhmetov, Taruta, Novinsky, or as a result of favorable agreements on the further expansion of the spheres of influence Poroshenko , Kolomoisky.
What will happen: It is necessary to assume that in the future oligarchs who are under the threat of loss of capital will still lose part of the business that will go to the Americans. The capital and part of the business will begin to work on the American economy.
It will be interesting to see the result which is achieved by the Americans as a result of the implementation of this program: it can be understood by the approximate growth of the share of the American market and the income obtained as a result of these actions in a few years.

Expansion of US political influence.
To do this:
1. The creation of agents of influence in the highest echelons of the political circles of the state of the object. As we can see, the operation was carried out brilliantly. The US intelligence services managed to completely ruin and effectively eliminate the most powerful political force in Ukraine - the Party of Regions and discredit its leader, President Yanukovych. Put controlled political leaders Turchinov, Yatsenyuk, Klitschko. And to force leaders and representatives of all political forces in Ukraine, for total control over the state, to unite under their authority. Since 2004, Americans have actively financed election programs and business of these political figures, which made them completely dependent.
What will happen: It is necessary to assume that in the next 2-3, the situation in Ukraine will not stabilize. And there will be no democratic struggle in the political arena at all. US intelligence agencies will continue to actively destabilize the political situation and bring Ukraine to a lengthy military conflict.



2.Preparation and introduction of people to the highest council of special services, to obtain all the intelligence information on the territory of the state of the object. Here everything went great, you can write a thesis. At the time of the leadership of the SBU, Turchinov and Nalyvaychenko, with 2004, American specialists worked in the central office, under the pretext of consulting. Naturally, the main goal was completely different - to get all the available information and the placement of agents for the subsequent implementation of the main program. As we can see, during the period of active actions to seize power, the SBU was absolutely inactive, from which it follows that the American special services coped brilliantly with their task. Currently, the CIA and the NSA have completely absorbed the Security Service of Ukraine, a large number of foreign specialists work on Vladimirskaya, 33, and in fact the entire resource of the special service is in the hands of the CIA.
What will happen: the independence of the special services in Ukraine is completely lost and cannot be restored. Part of the pro-Ukrainian regions are completely under the control of the CIA, and in the East a war of special services will unfold, as is the case in troubled third world countries.

The weakening of the position of Russia.
To do this:
1. Forming a negative opinion of the local population about the policy pursued by Russia - American strategists coped with this task only partially. The reason is simple, in Russia there is the FSB, which also does not sleep and takes action. Therefore, a negative opinion was formed only in the western, pro-Ukrainian regions and partly in Kiev, where, and so, historically, they were negatively treated. The task of expanding influence in the eastern regions was not solved, and even vice versa. In the current situation, the Ukrainian media, and even on the territory of the eastern regions, is actively promoting, but if representatives of the people's republics succeed in capturing and neutralizing the broadcasting of the Ukrainian media, this position in the east of Ukraine will be lost completely.
What will happen: Currently, this is the main direction of the future work of the American special services. Now all the elements of the implemented program will be directed exactly to this task. A major role will be played by the media and the Internet system, which the Americans managed to build in Ukraine. Further in this article the created media network will be described in detail.



2. Search and attract the largest number of people who are in opposition to Russian politics. The USA has also partially coped with this task. Now in Ukraine there are a large number of so-called human rights activists who have weight and authority in certain political circles, for example Saakashvili. Some of them, when the facts of fascism and neo-Nazism began to emerge, refused to cooperate with Ukraine. Largely due to the work of the Russian special services, which helped to identify and clarify the facts related to the conduct of extremist and terrorist activities in Ukraine.
What will happen: It is difficult to assume, now there is a struggle between the USA and Russia for each weighty political scientist. The result will directly depend on the possible development of the situation in the East of Ukraine.
3. Search and unification of radical people for active actions. And the Americans coped with this task superbly. They nurtured a group of radical movements, preaching the ideas of nationalism and Nazism, which simply appeared to be the instruments of physical intimidation of the authorities at the time of the coup d'état. If Russia had not actively intervened in the situation, after the coup d'état, as planned, the American special services would begin implementing the liquidation and disbandment scheme. That fact is the liquidation of the leader of the radical groups of the Right Sector, Alexander Muzychko, who, after the coup, was out of control. And active pressure on the leader of the "Right Sector" Dmitry Yarosh. But the situation in the South-East and the external threat to the implementation of the entire program from Russia, radically changed the situation and made the Americans continue to work on building up a radical potential.
What will happen: The Right Sector and other radical organizations operating on the territory of Ukraine will be actively funded by the Americans to fight Russia. This is one of the important tools for decoupling a full-fledged military conflict and its protracted nature.

US Expansion Program in Eastern Europe


Media and Internet system - as a separate element of the program.
In the process of implementing the program, a powerful and interconnected media and Internet system was built. The system includes the all-Ukrainian 5 media channel, 112 channel, 24 channel, which began to provide information in a single key and it is possible to use the technology 25 and 26 frame. Also, the American intelligence services managed to integrate almost all Ukrainian television media into this system. In parallel to the information supply system, Internet resources were added, moving in a single key of information presentation, for example, such as censor.net, Ukrainian truth, chief editor, etc. Over the years, 10 has built a system from more than 70 sites, including television service sites. Thus, in the media and Internet sphere, all masses of the population were covered, in order to maximize the necessary information and form the necessary public opinion.
Particular attention should be paid to the developed system of using social networks on the Internet. At the time of the coup in Kiev on the 4 floor of the KMDA, work on the Internet was carried out by more than 150 specialists continuously. Not counting the offices of media groups and site groups. Work in social networks was set at the highest level, where American intelligence agencies could have access to personal information and correspondence of people using the system. Naturally, we were able to identify the most active users with leadership qualities and build through them organized work for mass actions.
Reasonable Assumption: Throughout the entire media system, there is most certainly a coordinator (information technologists of the CIA and the NSA), and most likely working under the cover of a little-known foreign media or TV system.



What will happen: the entire media system will be thrown to the information war against Russia. In the event of a full-scale military conflict, the entire system will work only against Russia. And it works now.
Let us turn to the result: the task is implemented, but ..!
In fact, the American special services coped with the implementation very successfully. But an external factor influenced the events - Russia. Which openly interfered in the process of absorption of Ukraine by the Americans.
As a result of these events, the American special services moved on to Plan B, which was very likely to be prepared in the event that the main program was not fully implemented. This is the end of a long military conflict.

The program "Military Conflict":
The factor of open intervention of Russia in the events in Ukraine, which was not taken into account until the end, forced the United States to switch to Plan B - the end of a prolonged military conflict. Only in this way can you finally take part of the territories under your control and pay back the program as much as possible. Most likely, the United States switched to the Syrian option - the army of the government and the army of the rebels.
If Kiev today entered an open military confrontation in the east, the whole program would be in jeopardy, like the Georgian version. Therefore, Americans need more time to implement a plan for a long-term military conflict.
All the facts and recent events indicate its full-scale preparation.
Additional training of the local population. It is necessary to additionally equip the local population with food, uniforms and a large number of infantry weapons. Over the past month, more than 300 thousands of dry rations have been transferred to Ukraine, supplies of uniforms have begun - helmets, tents and water purification installations. Surely there is a search for additional channels for the supply of weapons and uniforms across the border. From the statements of Chuck Hagle, the head of the US Department of Defense and other government representatives, it is clear that full-scale preparations are under way for financing and supplying the war. The supply of food and uniforms, the presence in Ukraine of private American military campaigns, meetings of the leadership of the Ministry of Defense and the Polish side, through which possible supplies of weapons and equipment will go. And also, the mobilization of all citizens of Ukraine to conduct military operations and the issuance of automatic small arms to everyone indicates the beginning of the last stage of preparation for a military conflict.
As soon as the final mobilization takes place and the American specialists will assess the readiness to conduct a lengthy conflict against the regular army, outbreaks will begin in the places where the conflict is aggravated - government buildings, checkpoints, etc. According to specialists, this situation will arise no later than May 20 of the year.

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  1. +26
    April 20 2014 15: 22
    What will happen: it is worth assuming that in the coming year some of these facilities will fall into the hands of the Americans. The objects that are captured will begin to work on the US economy.


    This is already being realized ... the recent KIEV dismissal of the director of the enterprise ANTONOV ... THE FIRST SWALLOW of surprises that the Yank will present ... and with YAJTSENYUK and TURCHINSKY ... so that everything is still ahead ... unless of course the Ukrainians themselves stop this democratization run over on the economy of UKRAINE.

    However, RUSSIA has already suffered and will suffer losses from their actions .... we must move on to AGGRESSIVE TALKS ..this is the only language that Americans understand.
    1. +19
      April 20 2014 15: 29
      Missing Ukraine. Another banana country in the center of Europe. With a shattered economy and brainwashed
      1. +14
        April 20 2014 15: 54
        Missing Ukraine. Still
      2. +6
        April 20 2014 16: 53
        and probably also the world's largest landfill. The tires were disposed of, now nuclear waste is next in line. It’s good if by international standards, otherwise they can simply be buried. Yes
      3. +9
        April 20 2014 17: 32
        Quote: AleksPol
        Another banana country in the center of Europe.

        That's about the banana republic, you are in vain, everything goes to the fact that it’s just that the collapse of the country will not end. The USA will try to pump up the country with weapons and make revenge, as in Georgia.
        They just need to have another hot spot!
        The war will just undermine the economy of Russia and the main competitor of the United States of Europe. On this wave, all financial flows will again go to the US.
        We should hurry up with the announcement of the sale of oil for rubles in order to cool our hot heads in the United States a little. It is worth throwing the thoughts of Americans from world domination into patching economic holes.
        There is no way to allow a war with Ukraine - this will mean a loss to the party, we will not feed another 45 mil people and will not restore the economy of a country that has been in ruins for 20 years .........
        1. +16
          April 20 2014 17: 49
          I do not agree a bit. the war certainly does not bring anything good, and it must be avoided by any means, But: it will not undermine the Russian economy. All defense enterprises, the accompanying ones will be taken under state control. About oil for rubles - yes, it is. 40 million Ukrainians easily feed. Our market will be about 200 million people. This figure appears in the calculation of the minimum population for the profitability of an isolated economy. (self-sufficiency of high-tech industries)
          1. +7
            April 20 2014 18: 25
            Quote: dr.star75
            40 million Ukrainians easily feed. Our market will be about 200 million people. This figure appears in the calculation of the minimum population for the profitability of an isolated economy. (self-sufficiency of high-tech industries)

            This is only one facet - to feed the people of the country. You don’t forget that you need to urgently do something with the economy, rebuilding the country is a long investment, you won’t give any return. Yes, and the money is enormous, you will have to even out living standards right away, this is also a problem. it’s worth forgetting that our sworn friends will try to ruin us. Because we are so seriously stuck in the global economy that a number of serious restrictions can be placed on us. Of course, the planet’s economy may suffer, but it will be more difficult for us to get out of this situation.
            So far I see one way out. To negotiate with China and break the world domination of the dollar.
            Well, at least shake this "Colossus with feet of clay!"
            1. +5
              April 20 2014 18: 55
              Quote from the movie "DMB": and maybe zhahn? Of course zhahn! The whole world in dust! But then. I'm talking about the world domination of the dollar. It is necessary, but perhaps not the time. You can't "shake" it, you need to immediately cut it (without waiting for the development of peritonitis to hell!) I repeat once again: the size of the self-sustaining market is 200 million, so a customs union is vital. Therefore, Ukraine is needed in him "at least as a carcass, at least as a stuffed animal." Further, all industrialization projects of even Ukraine at least someone will be self-sufficient, regardless of the rest of the world.
              1. 0
                April 20 2014 19: 38
                Quote: dr.star75
                ) I repeat once again: the size of the self-sustaining market is 200 million, so a customs union is vital. Therefore, Ukraine is needed in him "at least as a carcass, even as a stuffed animal." Further, all industrialization projects of even Ukraine at least someone will be self-sufficient, regardless of the rest of the world.

                Don’t give a link, it hurts to get acquainted with such calculations. Something I have doubts
                1. 0
                  April 20 2014 20: 25
                  I won’t give a link, I read about it from A. Wasserman. He grabbed it from another source
                2. 0
                  April 20 2014 20: 48
                  Quote: APASUS
                  you can't "wobble" it, you need to cut it right away

                  Quote: APASUS
                  Don’t give a link, it really hurts to get acquainted with such calculations.

                  Can I, can I? (student pulls a hand). laughing It hurts me your interest in the dispute (as well as the article). The link is old, but from Forex:
                  http://www.forexpf.ru/news/2014/03/13/aoey-rynok-ignoriruet-dollar.html
                  1. 0
                    April 20 2014 21: 22
                    Quote: Ulairy
                    old, but from Forex: http: //www.forexpf.ru/news/2014/03/13/aoey-rynok-ignoriruet-dollar.html

                    The fluctuation of the dollar is not quite what I wanted to read. I am rather interested in the confirmation of calculations
                    Quote: dr.star75
                    ) I repeat once again: the size of the self-sustaining market is 200 million, so a customs union is vital. Therefore, Ukraine is needed in him "at least as a carcass, even as a stuffed animal." Further, all industrialization projects of even Ukraine at least someone will be self-sufficient, regardless of the rest of the world.
                    1. 0
                      April 20 2014 21: 58
                      once again I confirm my point of view ..
          2. +2
            April 20 2014 20: 32
            Quite right, dr.star75. "Experts from the economy" hum about the collapse of the Russian economy, but in fact - agents of influence ("for a small share") from the "world community", and who, with surprising constancy, even - when not paid for, point their fingers at the economic forecasts! A few days ago, a Kazakh banker on the Russia 24 channel "prophesied" the collapse of the economy in the event of integration with the Ukrainian one. What can we say about this case, when an approach is needed with an assessment of geopolitical issues, military strategic tasks, the same economy (with an examination of raw materials, production base, qualifications of labor resources, etc.), assessment by qualified, competent services (GRU, SVR, General Staff) the necessary forces for the implementation of the "project" and its possible (implementation) counteraction ... It can take a long time to list all the circumstances that matter in this situation. I hope - the analysis and specialists are engaged at the moment ...
            1. +1
              April 20 2014 20: 41
              Doubts about the Kazakh banker, because he does not know what to do! (And if he knows, then we will figure it out)
            2. +2
              April 20 2014 20: 51
              Quote: 1812 1945
              A few days ago, a Kazakh banker on the Russia 24 channel "prophesied" the collapse of the economy in the event of integration with the Ukrainian one.

              .. Ukrainian economy, hmm, interesting ...
              - Do you see the gopher?
              - No!
              - And I do not see. But he is!
        2. +4
          April 20 2014 20: 11
          ... we still cannot feed 45 people and don’t restore the economy of a country that has been in ruins for 20 years ...
          You just need to give an opportunity to work, if the population of the outskirts can’t feed themselves, then what is Siberia to do, where everything is much harder ... ???

          A moratorium on political activity, and all to the machine and the fields, and not to star on TV and squares
          hi
        3. DimychDV
          0
          April 21 2014 05: 34
          >> They need to have another hot spot! >>
          What does another mean? It has been smoldering and blazing since 1999 in the entire underbelly of both Russia and Europe. Ours may understand. But does Europe understand? Who now, when there is no Gaddafi, the French president will be able to borrow money? Will go to the USA ...
      4. +8
        April 20 2014 18: 26
        Europe is changing little by little (they say here that it’s not somewhere bad, in Russia, but under their nose in Deutch:
    2. +20
      April 20 2014 15: 29
      By the way. First Deputy Prime Minister Vitaly Yarema has already made a statement that Ukraine has stopped supplying weapons to Russia, as their "Western colleagues" demanded.

      I think by the autumn there will be another revolution in Ukraine. Social. Soon there will be nothing to wipe with, there is no way to buy a roll - then they will again pretend to be "brothers".
      1. Children BuryKonya
        +12
        April 20 2014 16: 05
        Hunger is the best teacher, you can maidan when the refrigerator is full. In the case of Ukraine, you only need to wait for the fall and the results of the torn sowing season.
        1. +19
          April 20 2014 16: 11
          Quote: Children Bury the Horse
          In the case of Ukraine, you only need to wait for the fall and the results of the torn sowing season.

          As a rule, after the February bourgeois there is the Great October Revolution, time-tested.
          1. +7
            April 20 2014 16: 26
            History has not taught banderlogs anything. That in France or in Russia, the revolution destroyed those who unleashed it. And others come to power.
        2. +6
          April 20 2014 16: 25
          What is this know-how:
          Quote: Children Bury the Horse
          results of a torn seed.

          ? What is the result? That chavo no ???
          1. +4
            April 20 2014 18: 11
            By the way, "news from the fields" is not heard at all, I wonder if the sowing is going according to plan in Ukraine? (Dill on the Maidan does not count)
            1. +3
              April 20 2014 18: 51
              Quote: dr.star75
              By the way, "news from the fields" is not heard at all, I wonder if the sowing is going according to plan in Ukraine? (Dill on the Maidan does not count)


              What are you talking about? What is the sowing season when the revolution in Ukraine. And then ... Europe will feed - it is kind.
              1. mad
                +3
                April 20 2014 19: 14
                Yeah, cars with nuclear waste are waiting for when they are allowed to cross the border (
              2. +1
                April 20 2014 19: 17
                Well, not all the same maydanutye! Spring day feeds the year. I mean: is there seed, fuel, fertilizers, collective farmers at last! Their desire.
        3. jjj
          +4
          April 20 2014 16: 47
          Quote: Children Bury the Horse
          Hunger is the best teacher

          The Russian proverb says:
          "Hunger is not an aunt, but a dear mother"
          1. Hunghuz
            +2
            April 20 2014 18: 53
            hi new edition - Language will bring to Kiev, and Svidomo and Mova to Maidan, GEYropa and dimacratic Zugunder ....... ??????
        4. Loki
          -31
          April 20 2014 17: 26
          Hunger is the best teacher, you can maidan when the refrigerator is full. In the case of Ukraine, you only need to wait for the fall and the results of the torn sowing


          Do not think that Russia fed Ukraine all this time. It wasn’t. Russia's role in Ukraine is rather negative - overpriced gas prices, and Ukrainian oligarchs traveled further on this gas at low prices inside the country. Those. the scheme was Russia and the oligarchs in the black, the rest of Ukraine was in the red, because they paid for gas through loans, concessions and from the budget.

          Therefore, the most realistic scheme of an empty refrigerator is the redirection of anger from an empty stomach to the same Russia, "they are to blame." Perhaps for the domestic oligarchs too. In fact, nothing good awaits both Ukraine and Russia. They will simply arrange a state of constant civil war on the border, and no input of troops will save them. Partisan methods have long been worked out in Syria, they will simply transfer them to the South-East of Ukraine, and, possibly, to Russia itself. It is a mistake to think that the United States wants to get Ukraine - the United States is on the drum. They want to weaken Russia and they succeed very well, and given the resources described above, they will succeed further, and without much straining, one to one, like in Syria
          1. +6
            April 20 2014 17: 44
            Quote: Loki
            They want to weaken Russia, and they are doing very well, and given the resources described above, they will succeed further, especially without straining, one-on-one like in Syria

            With all the will, the United States, with all the desire, cannot gather so many Slavic fighters, there are very few Christian fanatics, there are those who want it for money, but Russia has a lot of experience in dealing with such an audience.
            1. Loki
              -19
              April 20 2014 18: 09
              With all the will, the United States, with all the desire, cannot gather so many Slavic fighters, there are very few Christian fanatics, there are those who want it for money, but Russia has a lot of experience in dealing with such an audience.


              And why exactly are the Slavic fanatics needed? Any mercenaries will do. In addition, there is nothing to compare - the millionth Chechnya at what cost - there for the most part the local population went into the militants. Already 45 million. Ukraine will find. In Yugoslavia, they found, besides, Poland is nearby - they will feed. But the experience of the struggle was rather negative - they lost a bunch of people, they killed a bunch of people, and as a result, they came to the conclusion that you pay rent to Chechnya or money that you buy in fact.

              In fact, the United States in any case wins. They just think that the USA and Russia are competing for Ukraine - who will get it. But in reality - the USA does not need Ukraine; chaos in Ukraine is much more profitable for them. They have 2 birds with one stone - Russia and Europe, it weakens them both, it will not work with Russia, it will work with Europe, for example, they will arrange terrorism there and they will regularly blow up the gas pipeline with the oil pipeline. The goal of the United States is that Russia is stuck and fit in with troops in Ukraine.

              Do you think it was so difficult for them to crush the Southeast? No. They wanted in Kharkov - they instantly knocked everyone out. They just don’t need it, everything that happens is beneficial to them. The first swallows were already - they started shooting in Mariupol. On the block post attacked 3-4 people were killed. And so they will do it all the time. Enter the troops - they will do the same against your soldiers.
              1. +1
                April 20 2014 20: 02
                Loki without snotty skates we know what Amers need. They will still hold court for the genocide of their indigenous population.
              2. +1
                April 20 2014 21: 20
                Quote: Loki
                And why exactly are the Slavic fanatics needed? Any mercenaries will do. In addition, there is nothing to compare - the millionth Chechnya at what cost

                They engaged in jihad in Chechnya.
                Quote: Loki
                In Yugoslavia, they found
                Albanians and Bosnian Muslims. Well, and either mercenaries, or volunteers from all over the Arab-Muslim world, as well as in Chechnya, such as Khattab.
                Where to get in Ukraine a critical mass of Muslims sufficient for jihad? True, there are Crimean Tatars, but their comrade Stalin already once evicted to Uzbekistan. Now, however, Uzbekistan has separated, but the extreme north will also descend.
          2. +13
            April 20 2014 18: 04
            Hello to Azerbaijani Loki! Prices are inflated for a reason, but because of the shortsightedness of the ruling in Ukraine. The price of gas is based on the price of oil. In 2009, prices were acceptable, but now they are high, although the calculation formula is the same. It was necessary to be farsighted when signing agreements! BUT Ukraine has never received gas at high prices, Russia has always met in matters of reducing gas prices for one reason or another. In addition, in order to save money, Ukraine very often lacked certain volumes of gas, for which the agreements provide for sanctions. At the same time, Russia did not impose penalties for Ukraine, but can impose them at any time under the current agreement. Ukraine did not sign separate documents on sanctions for gas shortages.
            Regarding the state of the civil war, Russia is now far from Syria, and not even Russia a decade ago.
            Our society is consolidated as never before. We have a leader who is supported by the overwhelming majority of the population both in Russia and in the southeast of Ukraine. We have enormous resources, support from the BRICS countries (really, China), we have the main guarantor of our independence - strategic nuclear forces. In the end, we, our leader, have political will, which is absent from the opposing USA and geyropov. The will and support of the population was absent at one time in Azerbaijan, when Armenia occupied almost a quarter of its territory
            Look, the question of Crimea is almost never being raised, but only one month has passed!
            Guerrilla methods will not work in Ukraine. There are no thousands of Islamic warriors here who are ready to exchange their lives for the lives of infidels for sacred jihad. Today on TV showed a pravosek detained in Sloviansk from Vinnitsa. In the background, at least one 200th right sek was still visible. "We thought there was a riot here, but here it turns out to be a war." These zombie boys want money, like on the Maidan, to cut down, not fight!
            So they will not weaken Russia with such methods, but will strengthen it.
            1. +3
              April 20 2014 18: 22
              Quote: andj61
              The price of gas is based on the price of oil. In 2009, prices were acceptable, but now they are high, although the calculation formula is the same.

              In addition, Ukraine has long been able to provide itself with gas. They have enough deposits. And continental and shelf. Well ... at least from their own words ... Why hasn’t mining been developed for so many years? - no one is already trying to answer this question ...
            2. Loki
              -22
              April 20 2014 18: 26
              andj61

              Hey.

              Let us nevertheless clearly understand that we are not considering the issue of justice or injustice here. We are considering the possibilities. The facts are as follows.

              1. Yanukovych - a pro-Russian protege. Yanukovych - a robber and a thief. Yanukovych steals away and fled to Russia. Conclusion - Russia protects thieves and robbers. Sub-output - protects, because it has the same system in itself.

              2. Ukraine considered Crimea to be its own. Russia took away the Crimea, using the troops that were there on a visit, by agreement. Conclusion - Russia cannot be trusted.

              3. Russia in difficult times lifted up gas prices. The junta doesn’t care, they do not live with this. But the population is bad, these inflated prices hit him. Conclusion - talk about caring for the Ukrainian population, about the Slavic brotherhood, etc. - garbage. Sub-conclusion - they are not our Slav brothers.

              4. Russia is trying to take away from us the South-East and Novorossia, the most grain-growing territories - industry, ports. Without them, we will suck a paw. Our children will have nothing to eat. Conclusion - Russia must be fought.

              This is just a snap. Given the propaganda machine described in the article, all of the above can be twisted and perverted so that a bunch of people will find who will take up the machines. Add mercenaries and provocateurs, snipers from nowhere and everything will fly into a deep dark place.

              The United States will benefit. Russia will scoop up all the garbage in Ukraine, spending on it forces, resources, soldiers' lives, being under sanctions, and selling resources to China at low prices. And then the United States will come up with something else - already in Central Asia. And Russia will rake already there. The Caucasus will be connected, 3rd point. This is a well-known plan, how many times has been published in the press - to drag Russia into regional conflicts along the perimeter of borders. And draw in.
              1. +3
                April 20 2014 18: 38
                Quote: Loki
                And then the United States will come up with something else - already in Central Asia. And Russia will rake already there. The Caucasus will be connected, 3rd point. This is a well-known plan, how many times has been published in the press - to drag Russia into regional conflicts along the perimeter of borders.

                Another question arises: is there enough US forces for all this, they also have Syria with Iran, Egypt, Afghanistan, etc., they will certainly print money, but people are unlikely to have enough.
                1. Loki
                  -3
                  April 20 2014 18: 44
                  Another question arises: is there enough US forces for all this, they also have Syria with Iran, Egypt, Afghanistan, etc., they will certainly print money, but people are unlikely to have enough


                  The United States, unlike the rest, does not earn money, they print it. And to find people who are ready for money for anything has never been difficult.
                  1. 0
                    April 20 2014 19: 04
                    Quote: Loki
                    for money for anything it’s never been difficult.

                    But not in the center of Europe and not in a country with 4 nuclear power plants, even the EU will rebel and rid itself of militants.
                  2. macarque
                    +3
                    April 20 2014 19: 59
                    The United States, unlike the rest, does not earn money, they print it. And to find people who are ready for money for anything has never been difficult.



                    300 years ago, the Prussian king attracted his bankers to flood the warring countries with counterfeit money. Adolf, beloved by this Kodla, went down the same road. Is it time to repay debts? since they love green paper hi
                  3. +1
                    April 20 2014 19: 59
                    loki-I don’t give a damn about America, but you’re wrong as the first world economy didn’t get dust before if they don’t produce anything for you, then they earn money by selling a certain manufactured product? Ulug
                    1. Loki
                      -4
                      April 20 2014 20: 31
                      loki-I don’t give a damn about America, but you’re wrong as the first world economy didn’t get dust before if they don’t produce anything for you, then they earn money by selling a certain manufactured product? Ulug


                      I will tell you so, rumors that America is falling apart and that everything is very bad there is very exaggerated and more propaganda than reality. The United States, in fact, is the center of the world, much like Moscow is the center of Russia. Compare Moscow and the regions, the same is true for the United States and the rest of the world.

                      The United States is the largest market, their strength in the development of their country, and not in the army. Well, plus they print world money. While this is the case, there is simply no option to do something with them.
                      1. +3
                        April 20 2014 20: 47
                        Quote: Loki
                        While this is the case, there is simply no option to do something with them.

                        And you don’t have to do anything with them, they will tear themselves apart, and besides the USA there is also China with which Russia is friends.
                2. Gloria45
                  +7
                  April 20 2014 18: 55
                  The facts of the presence of foreigners at the Kharkov Tractor Plant, the main profile of which is the production of tanks, the Kharkov Aviation Plant, chemical industry plants, such as Stirol, Gorlovka, Uranium Plant in Kirovograd, etc. The list is quite large.
                  What will happen: it is worth assuming that in the coming year some of these facilities will fall into the hands of the Americans. The objects that are captured will begin to work on the US economy.

                  US Department of Defense Directive No. 13 of February 1992

                  The directive is designed for the period from 1994 to 1999 years. In it, in particular, it was said that in the near future the United States will become an unquestioned military-political leader in the world. And in this regard, it was noted that, if necessary, the United States has the right to refuse collective actions within the UN framework and can carry out unilateral military actions, as well as deliver preventive strikes at its discretion. This document, in particular, states that the goal of NATO in the future is to bring peacekeeping forces into regions of ethnic conflict and border divisions in the territory from the Atlantic to the Urals. The same document identifies individual potential objects as Siberia and the Russian Baltic.

                  In the same 1992, in Washington, at a joint meeting of the governing bodies of the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund, a program was developed to reduce the living standards of the Russian population under the pretext of a tight monetary policy and the fight against inflation

                  Statement by US Secretary of Defense William Perry

                  which he did in 1995 year. In it, he, in particular, said that if reforms roll back in Russia, the United States will use the “military factor”.
                3. +1
                  April 20 2014 21: 53
                  Quote: svetlomor
                  Another question arises, is there enough US forces for all this?

                  And the third: does America need it? And if so, why? Irrational answers, such as innate hatred of the Slavs, are not accepted. Give real material reasons.
                  Quote: svetlomor
                  of course they will print money, but there’s hardly enough people for all this.
                  The opposite is true. People can be bought for money. And don't say that not everyone is corrupt. Those who are not sold for money are sold for a lot of money (the size depends on the specific copy). And there is a shortage of money in America's budget. Obama and the Republicans will never agree on what domestic spending to cut, and you are talking about financing politics in God-forsaken corners. Hypothetical "Gray rulers" who, as it seems to some here, rule the world and, in particular, America, can persuade Obama alone, but the whole Congress will not persuade him. Members of Congress have an overarching task - to be re-elected to their seats, and elections - every 2 years, and in particular in November 2014. And economic problems inside America do not contribute to the solution of this overarching task, and a competing candidate will certainly indicate that this one voted for allocating money for Ukraine, Caucasus, Central Asia, and other places uninteresting to voters.
              2. +9
                April 20 2014 18: 54
                Quote: Loki
                1. Yanukovych - a pro-Russian protege. Yanukovych - a robber and a thief. Yanukovych steals away and fled to Russia. Conclusion - Russia protects thieves and robbers. Sub-output - protects, because it has the same system in itself.

                First I wanted to write a revision to your entire statement, but I’ll just get along with the joke
                “See, the girl is coming and smoking?”
                - Yes, so what?
                - So she's a prostitute!
                - Why?
                - Smokes - means drinks, drinks - means fucks, fucks - means a prostitute!
                Your conclusions will lead you so far
              3. +3
                April 20 2014 20: 10
                All Loki puzhal. It's time to sprinkle ashes on his head))
              4. +3
                April 20 2014 20: 37
                Quote: Loki
                We are considering the possibilities. The facts are as follows.

                Well, well.
                Quote: Loki
                1. Yanukovych - a pro-Russian protege.

                Here you are somewhat exaggerating, to put it mildly ...
                This dolboklyuy was never pro-Russian; in general, in the post-Soviet space, there are no politicians observed and not observed, with the exception of Lukashenko.
                Russia simply left things to chance after the collapse of the Union, which, accordingly, led to the flourishing of terry nationalism in all young independent republics (guess three times, who carefully guided this process?).
                Quote: Loki
                Yanukovych - a robber and a thief. Yanukovych steals away and fled to Russia. Conclusion - Russia protects thieves and robbers. Sub-output - protects, because it has the same system in itself.

                We note in brackets that Yanukovych has not yet been tried and not convicted, so that, directly, would call him a robber and a thief. This is the first.
                Secondly, he received asylum in Russia not as a private person, but as legitimate the president of a neighboring country, overthrown in a coup.
                Quote: Loki
                2. Ukraine considered Crimea to be its own. Russia took away the Crimea, using the troops that were there on a visit, by agreement. Conclusion - Russia cannot be trusted.

                We also note in brackets that Russia did not take away Crimea from Ukraine, but obeyed the will of the people of Crimea, who clearly spoke out in favor of Russia.
                You are right about one thing, of course, Russia cannot be trusted! You can only believe the United States, the EU, or, in extreme cases, say, Azerbaijan can trust Turkey, but Russia in no case! tongue wassat lol
                Well, for a snack: for some reason, more than 2 million Azerbaijanis voted with their feet just in that country, which in no case can be trusted ... Strange ... what
              5. +4
                April 20 2014 20: 38
                Let's continue.
                Quote: Loki
                3. Russia in difficult times lifted up gas prices. The junta doesn’t care, they do not live with this. But the population is bad, these inflated prices hit him. Conclusion - talk about caring for the Ukrainian population, about the Slavic brotherhood, etc. - garbage. Sub-conclusion - they are not our Slav brothers.

                E-hehe, maybe it will come through a joke, obviously, you have not met him ...
                Putin: Ukraine, you got the Prize sector. And the prizes today are from the sponsor - the European Union!
                Ukraine - I am taking the prize!
                Putin - I propose not to open the black box, and give you a discount on gas.
                Ukraine - I am taking the prize!
                Putin - in addition to gas discounts, we give you benefits for the supply of your goods to Russia and the CIS countries
                Ukraine - Prize! Putin - (looks into the black box) ... mdy ... instead of the contents of this black box, I offer you gas discounts, incentives for the delivery of your goods to Russia and the CIS, and 15 billions of dollars, without any conditions.
                Ukraine - Prize!
                Putin - as you want ... (takes out cookies from a black box) - get it!

                This is because you will not be forcibly sweet.
                In addition, if the younger brother does not understand kind words and continues to ride, then it is not a sin to deprive him of candy and put him in a corner. Maybe it will ...
                Quote: Loki
                4. Russia is trying to take away from us the South-East and Novorossia, the most grain-growing territories - industry, ports. Without them, we will suck a paw. Our children will have nothing to eat. Conclusion - Russia must be fought.

                Who has "you"?
                Azerbaijan ?????
                You haven’t messed up anything?
              6. +1
                April 20 2014 21: 05
                Quote: Loki

                In vain you took this nickname ... Loki, from the ancient Scandinavians, god of cunning and deceit ...
                Maybe you're a liar and a liar? ...
              7. +2
                April 20 2014 21: 43
                As far as I remember Loki, the Scandinavian god and, moreover, the gov.nyasty so apparently this login did not accidentally take.
                1. Yanukovych is not a pro-Russian protege, he was smeared with it, but in fact he did nothing in this direction, and often even vice versa. And as soon as the smell of fried immediately I remembered about Russia and we are not very enthusiastic that he rushed to us.
                2. Russia did not consider Crimea to be its own, but it is ours and read the history of TROL, and its return home is the expression of the will of the people living in Crimea, not the actions of the troops.
                3. Russia did not pick up prices, but brought them to the world standard, and how did you like !? Spit and crap in the well, and he will supply you with clean spring water !? Is everything all right with your head?
                4. Russia is not trying to take anyone away from you because we are not carrying out any propaganda there, just as in the Crimea itself it makes a decision because they understand that Kiev is moving towards a dead end because fascism has not brought anyone to good. And this is also only their solution.
                And in order not to suck a paw it is necessary to WORK and the most important thing is to live PEACEFULLY and not a hop-stop.
                Yes and deal with the Americans do not be afraid. Well, they scare sanctions. But the brains are not enough, that if a person or the state constantly tighten the nuts, then they break down and then ....
                In general, TROL you are Loki and you should not go here, because this is a decent site.
              8. +2
                April 20 2014 21: 50
                Quote: Loki
                andj61
                ...
                1. Yanukovych - a pro-Russian protege. ...


                Yanukovych was pro-Russian only during the election period and a couple, three months after, and then showed his true face - the endless attempts of two mothers to milk (typical Ukrainian). As a result, loyalty from the West to the Ukrainian oligarchs, and from Russia everything else.

                2. Ukraine considered Crimea to be its own. Russia took away the Crimea, using the troops that were there on a visit, by agreement. Conclusion - Russia cannot be trusted.


                Ukraine considered Crimea not so much its own as its colony (and treated it accordingly), knew that it was not completely legal to receive it.

                3. Russia in difficult times lifted up gas prices. The junta doesn’t care, they do not live with this. But the population is bad ... Conclusion - talk about caring for the Ukrainian population, about the Slavic brotherhood, etc. - bullshit. Sub-conclusion - they are not our Slav brothers.


                The Ukrainians themselves always, especially when they were well, treated Russia simply as a cash cow. They were always proud when they managed to fuck something from the Russians without giving anything in return, or even, in general, shitting in response, the brothers did not behave like that.

                4. Russia is trying to take away from us the South-East and Novorossia, the most grain-growing territories - industry, ports. Without them, we will suck a paw. Our children will have nothing to eat. Conclusion - Russia must be fought.


                And what did they themselves give to the Southeast? They treated him like a colony, and considered his inhabitants as suckers, under-Ukrainians, and now they generally decided to make them their slaves. Did you expect suckers to put up with everything and not talk?

                The United States will benefit. Russia will rake all the garbage ... This is a well-known plan, how many times has been published in the press - to drag Russia into regional conflicts along the perimeter of borders. And draw in.


                As for the intentions of the United States, you are probably right, but what are your constructive proposals?
                Suggestions like "Katz offers to surrender" are not considered.
              9. +2
                April 20 2014 22: 10
                Quote: Loki
                1. Yanukovych - a pro-Russian protege. Yanukovych - a robber and a thief. Yanukovych steals away and fled to Russia. Conclusion - Russia protects thieves and robbers. Sub-output - protects, because it has the same system in itself.

                Yanukovych’s campaign was led by American political strategist Paul Manafort, pro-Russian rhetoric is simply a technique that, by the way, was used by all the presidents of Ukraine (well, maybe except for Yushchenko). If Yanukovych is a thief, then it is necessary to conduct an investigation (for this the presence of the defendant is not necessary), condemn him, and demand extradition according to a bunch of international agreements to which Russia has signed. Not? Why isn’t it? AND?
                Quote: Loki
                2. Ukraine considered Crimea to be its own. Russia took away the Crimea, using the troops that were there on a visit, by agreement. Conclusion - Russia cannot be trusted.

                Ukraine considered Crimea to be its own, Crimeans thought differently, Russia made a choice in favor of the opinion of Crimeans. What's wrong? If someone does not like such a choice, well, God bless him, you will not please everyone.
                And yes, for what they consider theirs, they are fighting. If not, nothing is supposed to be like that.
                Quote: Loki
                3. Russia in difficult times lifted up gas prices. The junta doesn’t care, they do not live with this. But the population is bad, these inflated prices hit him. Conclusion - talk about caring for the Ukrainian population, about the Slavic brotherhood, etc. - garbage. Sub-conclusion - they are not our Slav brothers.

                In difficult times, Russia didn’t turn off the gas without having received the right price even at the lowest price. Just a fact. All that officials did, indicated the current price under the contract, they propose to discuss. All. What's wrong? Forgot to kiss in the ass?
                Quote: Loki
                4. Russia is trying to take away from us the South-East and Novorossia, the most grain-growing territories - industry, ports. Without them, we will suck a paw. Our children will have nothing to eat.

                I think it is useless to ask the question in what the attempt to "take away" is expressed, you already know everything, you cannot substantiate the current, just like mine .... He understands everything, does not speak current. gee.
                Quote: Loki
                Conclusion - Russia must be fought.

                Fight. Who is bothering? Chatting do not toss bags. Good luck.

                PS: I think everything is clear to everyone for a long time, Putin gives money to Yanukovych, that means he gives a bribe, does not mean that he’s going to starve children.
                By the way, it would be interesting to read the opinion of an experienced psychiatrist on all this, that there is something medical in all of this. Something like this.
              10. GHG
                GHG
                0
                April 20 2014 22: 41
                You really try to determine the state laughing
                Russia is trying to take away WE Southeast and Novorossia, the most grain-growing territories - industry, ports. Without them, we will suck a paw. Our children will have nothing to eat. Conclusion - Russia must be fought.

                So who are you, an Azerbaijani Slav or a troll?
              11. 0
                April 21 2014 06: 36
                The answer is:
                1. Yanukovych has never been a pro-Russian henchman. Russia has always cooperated with the official authorities in Ukraine, shortsightedly not engaging in (this must be corrected!), In contrast to the United States, supporting really pro-Russian politicians (whom Yanukovych "cleaned out" in the regions). Yanukovych is a protégé of the semi-criminal Donbass "authorities". Everyone understood this perfectly. It was he who arranged the bargaining in Ukraine, addressing both Russia and the European Union, who will give more, they say, we will be with that. Bargaining led to Euromaidan and a coup.
                2. Only with the consent of the drunken Yeltsin in 1991 and 1994-95 Crimea remained in Ukraine. Then Y. Meshkov was nominated by the people as the president of the Crimea, and without receiving Yeltsin’s support, even if silent, he refused an armed confrontation with Ukraine.
                In Crimea, there were more Ukrainian troops than Russian ones. At the end of February, 22000 (there were more troops in Crimea than in any other region) against 14000, respectively. By mid-March, this number had increased only to 16000 (permissible by agreement - 25000). At the same time, Russian troops did not DIRECTLY take part in the events, ensuring only the safety of civilians. And all without a single shot, without a single victim. If the United States withdraws "into the field" simply to move 5-10 thousand troops, this ALWAYS leads to accidental casualties among the population. This was not the case here. All this speaks of professionalism and the overwhelming support of the population.
                3. Gas prices of this format have long been. The agreement was signed by Tymoshenko, prepared by His Sold (what a surname! - current acting Minister of Energy). Tymoshenko was imprisoned for this agreement. Russia provided discounts. In February, they paid 30%, in March - 0. In April - 0. To supply the illegal government that does not pay for free, thereby supporting it? What's the point? At the same time, Russia is the ONLY of the countries that nevertheless supports Ukraine, without stopping the supply of gas, for which it does not receive money. Others, in addition to rhetoric, did not help. But p ... t - do not toss the bags.
                4. Russia is not trying to take away the South-East and Novorossia from Ukraine. For this, it would be enough to declare in response to the existing bloody punitive measures against the civilian population: we are taking the population under protection. To declare no-fly zones and to move forward groups of troops to key points on the roads Further, the Ukrainian army and the current junta will simply disappear, and the population will be able to make a free choice.
                Russia does not know how to save Ukraine intact now. This junta is doing everything to make Ukraine fall apart. But Russia, at the same time, cannot leave Russian people of all nationalities who hope for it!
                The most important thing is not this. Do not scare us with US difficulties. Russia is different now. The United States decided to make a bomb in Ukraine - for their grandmothers they received a huge strengthening of Russia. They will still come up with - and we will intensify again. In such circumstances, they have nothing to oppose us. We are warriors, they are traders. The truth is behind us.
          3. Igor Gor
            +5
            April 20 2014 18: 23
            I’ll cry))) I didn’t see such a stupid and limited analysis or comment) HA-HA-HA (((
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          5. +5
            April 20 2014 19: 46
            I didn’t set a minus, but you can decide on gas prices: they are either high or low, otherwise yours is bad at once fool About what awaits Russia is not for you to judge, we ourselves will sort it out slowly. But the entry of troops ... Look at the Crimea hi (In general, it will be necessary to Europe, we will introduce troops to Gibraltar!)
          6. +5
            April 20 2014 19: 57
            Loki weakener breaks down.
        5. +2
          April 20 2014 18: 34
          Quote: Children Bury the Horse
          Hunger is the best teacher, you can maidan when the refrigerator is full.

          Not sure. Russia will throw humanitarian aid to the southeast, and the United States and EU countries to the west of Ukraine. Rather, COLD is the best teacher, because unpaid gas will not go through the pipes. At the expense of taking control of Ukraine by the United States - I am also not sure, because the Russians are worse than the Irish and the Scots combined - at least kill the rebellious, you can only deceive, and even then not for long. Here are the Westerners - yes, they agree on everything, if only against Russia. I still naively hope for the EU, which is economically interested in a stable situation in Ukraine.
        6. +5
          April 20 2014 20: 38
          It will be so. Only Russia will help again. I hope that by the fall of this imperious Kiev abomination, the trace will wake up already. They worked - and to the States, if they survived.
          1. 0
            April 21 2014 01: 41
            Quote: Stock Officer
            and to the States if they remain alive.
            No, no, no, they didn't give up on us here. First, a trial, and then where the court determines. In rare-earth mines, they say, a shortage of labor. And the dust there is so strong that the uranium mines will appear as a resort.
      2. +4
        April 20 2014 19: 43
        I think that earlier .... the sowing was not carried out, the plants connected with Russia will stand up, here Antonov is also felled by the change of the General Director and the economy wasn’t super, but she could feed herself (only feeds), but now .... Downs, downs, downs are maydowns !!!!
    3. +10
      April 20 2014 17: 33
      US plans, plans, plans .... Anecdote on the topic:
      In the room of the head of the western states. All are silently embarrassed and look at the door. From behind the door there are dull bangs and slurred screams.
      “Yes ... It somehow didn’t work out well ...” someone says.
      Everyone is turning to Obama.
      - What hatched? Am I the only one who invented all this ?! All the same, they shouted - “let's make fun of Vladimir!” And now I'm extreme! They joked, it’s called ...
      The heads of government turned away.
      In the corner, Yatsenyuk trembles visibly.
      Obama (annoyed):
      -Well, and you, asshole, who pulled the tongue ?!
      -Three money wanted ...
      The door opens and a crying Saakashvili crawls into the room, covered in blood and with his pants down.
      Everyone rushes to him.
      -Well, how ?! Alive?!
      - Be patient, Cossack!
      -Not sts! For one beaten - they give two not beaten! - shouted Oland and squinted at Yatsenyuk.
      Obama:
      -Alive, and thank God! Do not Cry. Wipe the snot. You're a jig! Or not already?! ...
      Saakashvili rubbing blood over his face with a cap:
      - Beasts! Wah! Putin even began to crush ne! Immediately into the drums from the naga ... But Medvedev, he finally ... They drove me into a corner and ... and ... (looking away) And let go ...
      Merkel (maliciously):
      - To the corner - that's nothing! Could drive to the Kremlin. There they would still not be so ... um ... let go.
      Saakashvili, sobbing and pulling up his pants:
      -Wah! I was buzzing a conditional signal: "Pamagite!" And vi ne pamagly ...
      Obama (indignantly):
      - Why didn’t they help ?! They shouted to the whole democratic world about what these bastards did to you. They threatened in every way. Look, look, Arseny already got into a fight for you! And we stood on a skheher. But you know these barbarians.
      -Teper know ...
      Yatsenyuk closed his eyes and pulled his head into his shoulders. Saakashvili, holding out his hands in prayer.
      -Pamagite hatya would be material!
      Obama puts a jar of petroleum jelly in his hands.
      -What we can - we will always help!
      Suddenly, a light comes on above the door and Putin looks into the room with a shovel from his hand in his hand.
      Everyone gets up.
      - Everyone is GREAT! Well, who is next?
      Obama - Yatsenyuk:
      -Your turn...
      Merkel (maliciously):
      - Right now they will clear the fairway to Sevastopol Bay!
      Saakashvili, holding out Vaseline to Yatsenyuk:
      -Derzhi, godmother ... you need more ...
      Yatsenyuk staggering out to the door.
      Merkel hums in a low voice: "Bear, Bear where is your smile, full of enthusiasm and fire ..."
      Saakashvili is sobbing.
      Oland (looks thoughtfully toward the door):
      -It is interesting, and who is next? ...
      And everyone looked at Obama.
      1. sleepy
        +4
        April 20 2014 19: 33
        A. Yatsenyuk runs into the White House Oval Office:
        - Mr. President, Mr. President !!! I just called the Kremlin, as you ordered me ... I tell them: Give Crimea, oaths! Otherwise, it will be bad for you !!! ..
        And V. Putin in response: “Go to forest, eared! ..
        And once again you call - you will pay a rent for 60 years !!! "
        ... Call him, tell him not to call names ...

        B. Obama listened gloomily and exploded: - go to forestEAR !!! !!! ..
        Yesterday I called ... Do you know how much they set me up for Alaska !?

        Americans complain that, despite the fact that the topic of Ukraine has not been off the TV screen for several weeks, 63% of American schoolchildren cannot find Ukraine on the map.
        - Nothing, soon no one can! - remarked Mr. V. Putin.

        Fashionable in Ukraine, Putin's comparison with Hitler was lost in the ranks
        Bandera and Ukrainian Nazis. This is what comes out
        Putin-the liberator, and they should help the Russian army?
    4. -3
      April 20 2014 19: 24
      Yes. Russia-to put forward an ultimatum to the United States. If the Americans do not roll away from Ukraine within XNUMX hours, then tomorrow we will bomb and bury the United States.
      1. +4
        April 20 2014 19: 44
        Quote: Alex Danilov
        - Then tomorrow, we will bomb and bury the United States.

        Drink valerian, take it easy. Why is this fuse? fool
        What kind of hatred? You are not adequate today. laughing
      2. +5
        April 20 2014 21: 05
        Alex! Free tip:
        Come to the mirror. Find the item where the bread collector is located (well, one with two eyes, two ears and a nose!)
        Put your palm on your forehead, if it's hot - take aspirin or something antipyretic ... and lie down, take a rest!
        Otherwise, I seriously suspect that you are unwell. Since a healthy person in a sober mind and a solid memory SUCH can not carry!
        And then, the subject that I wrote about above is needed not only to wear a hat, but also to sometimes THINK!
        Although, there is always an alternative!
      3. 0
        April 21 2014 01: 51
        Quote: Alex Danilov
        Yes. Russia-to put forward an ultimatum to the United States. If the Americans do not roll away from Ukraine within XNUMX hours, then tomorrow we will bomb and bury the United States.

        What smoked, what so stuck?
    5. 0
      April 20 2014 22: 36
      It’s interesting that Klitschka’s brains worked off, or who advised not to show off, so as not to go through the corridor and end up with a wall in the future, it seems.
  2. +6
    April 20 2014 15: 23
    on the table with a katy ball.
    1. Korablev
      +1
      April 20 2014 19: 14
      props on the table, stolen from the movie studio
  3. Arh
    +11
    April 20 2014 15: 26
    As happens, even though a small Pro-Russian Victory, all American influence is immediately swept away, it just blows it off with the wind !!!))))))))
  4. +12
    April 20 2014 15: 28
    It should be assumed that in the next 2-3 years the situation in Ukraine will not stabilize.
    But will there be Ukraine as a country in 2-3 years in general, the FSB will not slurp cabbage soup too?
    1. mad
      +6
      April 20 2014 15: 38
      Yeah, the mattresses have already approved the design of the base near Sevastopol with all the necessary parking lots, shelters and barracks, and then such a bummer came ...
      By the way, where did this "Program ..." come from? Fantasy or documentary evidence?
    2. +3
      April 20 2014 21: 18
      Quote: svetlomor
      And will there be Ukraine as a country through 2-3 of the year

      Suppose it will be. And now the new President at Putin is negotiating the price of gas:
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    4. +1
      April 20 2014 21: 20
      What are 3 years old? You can’t pull it until winter.
  5. +15
    April 20 2014 15: 30
    And Tsarev something: the country needs an honest dialogue. Romantic. They have a war going on, and he has to start dialogues.
    What dialogue with a gopota can be ?! According to the laws of wartime - execution on the spot of traitors to the motherland.
    The country must be saved from the interventionists and the fifth column! Industry - from expropriation and privatization!

    Dialogs, damn it.
    Have you talked to him? Or also insane?

    1. Children BuryKonya
      -5
      April 20 2014 16: 06
      Or mishandled. (As an option)
      1. +3
        April 20 2014 19: 19
        If he had been mishandled, then our media would not have promoted him so stubbornly. wassat fellow hi
    2. +6
      April 20 2014 16: 28
      Interestingly, you argue: then, when Lavrov talks about dialogue - this is normal, but when Tsarev repeats his words - this is "baby talk" ?! Is it not allowed to work according to the "Moscow scenario"?
      1. jjj
        +3
        April 20 2014 16: 50
        Quote: avia1991
        Interestingly, you argue: then, when Lavrov talks about dialogue - this is normal, but when Tsarev repeats his words - this is "baby talk" ?! Is it not allowed to work according to the "Moscow scenario"?

        Behind Lavrov stands a world power. Nobody is behind Tsarev
      2. +8
        April 20 2014 16: 52
        Quote: avia1991
        You are wondering: it means that when Lavrov talks about dialogue, this is normal

        I did not hear that Lavrov offered to negotiate with the Maidan junta.
        zn.ua/POLITICS/zapadnye-strany-ne-smogli-ugovorit-rossiyu-nachat-peregovory-s-ki
        evom-140473_.html

        For the first time since the beginning of the Crimean crisis, US Secretary of State John Kerry met with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov in Paris and called on Moscow to begin direct negotiations with Kiev. However, the calls of Kerry, as well as the ministers of other foreign Western countries - in particular, Germany, Britain, France, remained in vain.

        And in the statement of Tsarev, only about relations with Kiev:

        A dialogue is possible only AFTER a number of requirements have been fulfilled.

        We need not decentralization - a handout from Kiev, but federalization

        But this should be an honest dialogue in which the parties operate not with empty promises, but with concrete steps. And the first steps are for Kiev authorities, because it was they who launched the flywheel of violence in the country.

        It turns out that the Tsarev recognizes the authorities in Kiev, and is going to negotiate with them on the status of the region,
        on the status of the Russian language, on the dissolution of the right sector, etc.

        And these are completely different things, do not be offended.

        1. koshh
          +2
          April 20 2014 18: 42
          Amazingly cool: short and clear.
    3. +7
      April 20 2014 16: 36
      Quote: MainBeam
      Or also insane?

      Uncle, of course, charismatic, what can I say. Against the background of undernights, they junta, so, finally, a swan in a flock of crows. It is not deprived of personal courage .... In short mnysha.
      BUT. Here for some reason he does not believe him and that’s it! Although he honestly says that he is pro-Ukrainian. He did not give a decryption of this term.
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    4. +4
      April 20 2014 17: 12
      He, too, of these, only from another flank. (Otherwise, they would not have been allowed to the elections)
    5. +2
      April 20 2014 17: 36
      Tsarev is the same protoplasm as Yanukovych. Not an eagle. winked
      1. koshh
        +1
        April 20 2014 18: 46
        probably a heron.
  6. +5
    April 20 2014 15: 30
    I’ll have to confront on all fronts. I think the special services are not asleep
  7. Strezhevsky
    +16
    April 20 2014 15: 32
    So they want adventure on their own head, well, just unbearable.
    A soldier sat smoking a cigar.
    Played a trophy gramophone
    And on his chest shone
    Medal FOR WASHINGTON CITY.

    Handing out rations to the hungry
    He was busy with this business.
    The record is old sobbing,
    Brought harmonies chime.

    He is this old record
    In battles, he saved from keeping bullets.
    Now to Russian Kalinka
    Negroes fled children.

    And a flock of grub got up.
    The soldier was not greedy, he gave.
    Shmatok took fat from a bag of fat.
    Chopped and small convened.

    And the capitol is a dirty stench.
    Chad ruined smoke.
    A soldier sitting back to him.
    He got up and flicked into the pillar of fire.

    And the blacks laughed joyfully
    Who survived the bombing.
    Well, bourgeois - play out!
    And the gramophone sang in Russian
  8. +12
    April 20 2014 15: 33
    Mattresses are enemies of Russia - this is not even subject to discussion. Therefore, in relation to them, you must firmly show your ambitions, on occasion send them to x .., and Ukraine can not be given to them in any way.
    1. +7
      April 20 2014 17: 42
      If it goes on like this, if Kiev’s unfortunate drivers don’t fulfill the Geneva decisions, Ukraine, as a whole, will cease to exist. negative
      1. +2
        April 20 2014 21: 32
        Quote: Lelek
        Ukraine, as a whole, will cease to exist

        WITH SUCH FOOD !? fellow YES NOT IN LIVING! wassat WITHOUT WORK (CARE) CURRENTLY WILL NOT REMAIN! lol
  9. +11
    April 20 2014 15: 34
    The Americans want to graze the whole herd, appointed their shepherds, and the South-East did not go to the herd, and the shepherds are not listed here. And then Russia scares the flock with a bear threat. The Yankees didn’t think of something in their program
  10. serge21
    +5
    April 20 2014 15: 35
    “Fear Danians (CENSORSHIP), bringing gifts! This is the fifth column in Russia!
  11. +4
    April 20 2014 15: 37
    All this one to one repeats the drive to power of Hitler and the NSDAP. Why reinvent the wheel in the presence of a proven methodology, time-tested. No candidacy for the role of Hitler? Pale with a scythe? It is possible ...
    Only we are not the same, and Ukraine is not Germany ... True, fascism there can grow to terrifying limits under the leadership of the regional instructors. The world will shudder ...
    1. serge21
      +6
      April 20 2014 15: 44
      The abscess must ripen! And then "only surgically" ...
      1. +1
        April 20 2014 16: 04
        Quote: serge21
        The abscess must ripen! And then "only surgically" ...

        No surgery, just a rope !!! The only decent place for a Nazi Nazi, only a loop.
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        2. +7
          April 20 2014 17: 18
          Rebus
          No surgery, just a rope !!! The only decent place for a Nazi Nazi, only a loop.

          They also called themselves liberators! They also screamed for victory!
      2. koshh
        +1
        April 20 2014 18: 49
        If the surgeon comes, then there will be a lot of blood and pus.
  12. +9
    April 20 2014 15: 42
    I hope that all US programs will die out slowly. The fact is that the bucks invested in the Maidan have not worked out themselves. Americans still do not want to invest. Moreover, these programs are blocked by Russia and local residents. Even Europeans are beginning to protest against the implementation these ideas. (Who needs Libya in the center of Europe).
    1. jjj
      +2
      April 20 2014 16: 54
      But Huseynovich bluntly said that he would have no more business with Vladimirovich. And he will deal with other world problems. He himself admitted that the partner is stronger than him
  13. +3
    April 20 2014 15: 43
    The essence of today's US foreign policy model is parasitism.
    To maintain their own existence, they need food. Unfortunately, food facilities of the size of the USSR no longer exist.
    Even if the United States triumphs in Ukraine, this will only delay the death of the parasite, but no matter how guarantees them a prosperous life.
    1. 0
      April 21 2014 00: 22
      Quote: Klim2011
      The essence of today's US foreign policy model is parasitism.
      ...
      Even if the United States triumphs in Ukraine, this will only delay the death of the parasite, but no matter how guarantees them a prosperous life.


      The whole thing is that the parasite is doomed in any case, as soon as it absorbs and digests everything that it can reach.
      The main paradox of capitalism is that it constantly strives for monopolism, although it cannot exist without competition.
  14. mnbv199
    +6
    April 20 2014 15: 50


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7N9lCn4kf30
    1. +2
      April 20 2014 18: 09
      Eh how deeply dug.
      Gorbachev is a traitor and hang his work of honor, but it is precisely those with whose hands he eats and drinks rule the world.
      Do not pull you alone
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      2. +2
        April 20 2014 21: 49
        Fedorov is not alone. He voices what Putin is not supposed to. Because the president is the president of all. It seems that not so long ago a group of Duma deputies from the Communist Party appealed to the prosecutor general to give a legal assessment of the actions of people who destroyed the USSR. But there is no information yet. If someone watched one of the last programs with Solovyov, then Fedorov’s proposal to investigate the Gorbachev case was severely ostracized. So they are afraid that the truth will be revealed.
  15. +7
    April 20 2014 15: 52
    The saddest thing is that they and the managers hired by them, so to speak, understand that the destruction of industry will cause increased social tension. Apparently, it is planned to strengthen radicalism and increase repression. To this day, blood has been shed more than once, it is hard at first ... Probably now is not the worst of times. The media is already now with a significant admixture of fantasy, and what will happen next. Phew, that I was wrong.
  16. skifo
    +2
    April 20 2014 15: 53
    Maybe it’s still possible to get rid of the eggs?! The southeast needs not only to defend themselves, but also to advance ... they lost their finest hour in the early days of the coup, but they took advantage of the Crimea .. As an option, to move the junta under the banner of Yanukovych .. People already angry at the end, and the right sector is just a bunch of punks
    1. Children BuryKonya
      +5
      April 20 2014 16: 08
      Without a weapon in any way. In this, the naivety of the Southeast borders on crime, well, it’s impossible with the current junta agree.
  17. +3
    April 20 2014 15: 57
    it will be like in that film Comrade General (GDP) maybe it's time, not too early ...
    ..... well, maybe it’s time already ,,, not yet too early ,,,,, but now it’s time. no, it's too late .... hi
  18. +6
    April 20 2014 15: 58
    As soon as the final mobilization takes place and the American specialists will assess the readiness to conduct a lengthy conflict against the regular army, outbreaks will begin in the places where the conflict is aggravated - government buildings, checkpoints, etc. According to specialists, this situation will arise no later than May 20 of the year. Syria is planned.

    I have already done an analysis of what is happening earlier and that’s what I think.

    The United States does not need "slaves", they do not care at all in what quality the countries and peoples under them perceive themselves.
    Ukraine, of course, with Crimea, as I already wrote once, even a neutral in the military sense was needed, in order to sit on the gas valve, control Europe and impose Russia. And after the signing of the agreement between the EU and the USA, Europe as something independent did not last long.
    But alas Our Crimea... This means that South Stream will be built (they will also save $ 5 billion on reducing the length of the route). And if so, then control over Europe has failed.
    The current panic in the US is the collapse of the project. There is no new meaningful. Feed and contain 45 million. leaving Ukraine neutral (nobody will let us become a NATO country), no one is going to. It remains only to spoil, unleashing a civil war in Ukraine and an attempt to quarrel between Europe and Russia, take control of tidbits, destroy the economy associated with Russia.
    Creating a hotbed of tension in the center of Europe, can be forced to use resources not for development, but for pacification.
    If Europe is smart and courageous, to come forward on a common front (which I doubt) for its interests, the United States will surrender.
  19. +13
    April 20 2014 15: 59
    forced the United States to move on to plan B, the outcome of a prolonged military conflict. Only in this way can one finally take part of the territories
    1. +13
      April 20 2014 16: 01
      The following action is something like this:
      1. +4
        April 20 2014 16: 33
        We must break the virgin americos on their mattress angry
      2. +5
        April 20 2014 17: 11
        Can add to the same topic
  20. +3
    April 20 2014 16: 00
    USA in Ukraine - let the goat into the garden.
  21. Lenochka
    +3
    April 20 2014 16: 00
    We didn’t manage to announce the Donetsk People’s Republic - the new flags are already ready. Apparently everything was prepared in advance. So ours also work there and have a plan of action.
    1. jjj
      +2
      April 20 2014 16: 58
      By the way, the Kharkiv Republic has a green band on the flag. And the rest, including the eagle, as in Donetsk
    2. +2
      April 20 2014 17: 35
      Quote: Lenochka
      We didn’t manage to announce the Donetsk People’s Republic - the new flags are already ready.

      And the kilometers of St. George ribbons are taken from somewhere ..... but chur me, we are not there, no ....
      1. +3
        April 20 2014 17: 56
        Quote: dmitriygorshkov
        And the kilometers of St. George ribbons are taken from somewhere ..... but chur me, we are not there, no ....

        There is such a country, China. Demand creates supply, banality, of course, but nonetheless.
  22. +2
    April 20 2014 16: 00
    Lost generation. Special services and the army should have only one task - protecting the interests of their country! SBU is a branch of the CIA and will protect the interests of Americans. The Ukrainian economic elite made its choice. The money is Russian, the owners are American. But the people of Ukraine will make their changes to their plans. I would like to believe in it.
  23. +4
    April 20 2014 16: 06
    It is sad to realize, but the political and economic life of the country is under the complete control of the striped "korefans". And it looks like it will take a very long time, until all the country's resources are completely depleted. And then, like a prezik, into the trash! negative
  24. +4
    April 20 2014 16: 07
    After reading the hunt to shoot himself, of course, the junta also has no back, they either pan or disappeared.
    1. +7
      April 20 2014 16: 21
      Quote: ZU-23
      After reading the hunt to shoot yourself,

      No, better let them. negative
      Love life and cherish it. It may come in handy to deal with the junta.
    2. +2
      April 20 2014 17: 54
      Quote: ZU-23
      they are either pan or gone.

      Hardly. What kind of "pan" is there. They do not have a single long-term project. Moreover, they break something that still breathes at least once.
      Judging by their actions, their task is to bring the country to elections without a choice. In which the protégé Sashikov will "win". In the process, they still throw in introductory notes.
      As a result of all this bacchanalia, they were promised money and a residence permit somewhere.
      They only feel my heart, the Americans will throw them. They will not leave calmly!
  25. +1
    April 20 2014 16: 25
    To the dinosaur, the Arctic fox, global cooling, to Kiev the Cuban in the first place, then America and for dessert GEYROPA ....
  26. +4
    April 20 2014 16: 32
    “My business is going up!” Thought the sparrow, which the cat had in its teeth, was dragging along the stairs to the roof.
  27. Andrey82
    +6
    April 20 2014 16: 40
    Good material. The North American states do not wash so kataniyu create a sickly such Anti-Russia (even without taking into account the Southeast). The meaning is clear: arm, train and set. It turns out a copy of Saakashist Georgia, only much more evil and powerful. You can laugh as much as you like about the current military capabilities of Antirussi, but in 2-3 years, and at the latest - in 5-6 years, it is quite possible for them, with the help of NATO countries (primarily the USA, Poland, Germany, etc.) to create a fully operational and equipped with NATO and modernized Soviet weapons army numbers. 200-300 thousand. Moreover, the basis of this army will be the nationalists of the Bandera-Galician spill. And further ... further not far and to the cherished dream of the Anglo-Saxons - a long-standing military conflict between the two parts of the essentially unified Russian people.
    An effective response would be to weaken the United States by abandoning the dollar. Another way to weaken the star-striped evil would be to help all the forces that can be opposed to the American empire (Islamists in the East, Latin American countries and minorities in the United States themselves). But apparently the refusal to sell resources for the dollar will be dragged on as much as possible by the liberals (read - enemy agents) in our government. The tactics of constant negotiations will also be used with the aim of blurring the situation and blowing dust into our eyes. Yes, and how to undermine US influence, if their transshipment point still operates in Ulyanovsk? This is nonsense, they impose sanctions and wipe their feet on us, set neighbors on us, and we kindly help them to get out of Afghanistan without interference. They will not appreciate this, they will perceive it only as evidence of weakness.
  28. +3
    April 20 2014 16: 47
    êàî it is necessary to separate and isolate the southeast from the banderlogs, but on the western fucker there is no .. let the mattresses choke)
  29. +2
    April 20 2014 16: 49
    Just like in our old movie "A hu-hu, not a ho-ho!" We are not impressed by your values! Hollow .. hell! And do you love it? Well, you are complete perverts !!!
  30. Lenochka
    +1
    April 20 2014 16: 52
    Quote: Andrey82
    Yes, and how to undermine US influence, if their transshipment point still operates in Ulyanovsk? This is nonsense, they impose sanctions and wipe their feet on us, set neighbors on us, and we kindly help them to get out of Afghanistan without interference. They will not appreciate this, they will perceive it only as evidence of weakness.


    Putin said that they are helping us, not we. So we would have to do the dirty work, and thanks to this base the Americans will do everything. There is this video on youtube
    1. 0
      April 20 2014 17: 02
      Oh yes, their help is very valuable to us. We ourselves are not capable of anything, only under their strict guidance
      1. 120352
        +1
        April 20 2014 20: 11
        Igool
        The base in Ulyanovsk is URGENTLY closed in response to all sanctions, including those that were announced earlier, starting in 1917. Negotiations on the resumption of its work can begin six months after their cancellation, deep, sincere apologies of the "partners", the signing of an agreement on the termination of all US activities in Ukraine and its transfer to Russia within the borders of 1917, but only in the case of good behavior of "partners" "from the United States and payment of all Ukrainian debts with interest, including those that have been stuck since the times of the USSR, as well as the return of Kolchak's Gold."
    2. serge21
      +3
      April 20 2014 17: 13
      Do you want to shed blood? His?
  31. brilliant1
    +4
    April 20 2014 16: 57
    God willing, the supervolcano will wake up in the strip-star and the faster, the better for us. Where will they evacuate their citizens? I think that there is a lot of territory for us, in Russia, and therefore they want to fight with us over the territory. Indeed, no one in the world wants to see them on their land, so they pumped everywhere.
    1. +3
      April 20 2014 22: 09
      Quote: briliant1
      Where will they evacuate their citizens? I think, to us, to Russia,

      Yusery in case of an emergency has asked to shelter the population affected by the Yellowstone volcano, South Africa, Brazil, Argentina and Australia. Promising for 10 years to pay them 10bn green. South Africa, remembering the genocide and knowing the mores of the USA, immediately rejected this offer. The rest are thinking ...
      The Yankees did not make such requests to Russia, correctly predicting a possible answer. But if this happens to everyone it will not be sweet. Amer.am surely no one will envy!
    2. 0
      April 21 2014 01: 06
      Quote: briliant1
      God willing, the supervolcano will wake up in the strip-star and the faster, the better for us. Where will they evacuate their citizens? I think that to us, to Russia, there are many territories ...


      Of course, we will accept several million refugees (maybe even 20–30 million), only we will disperse them as dispersed as possible throughout the country, where we will need extra working hands. They will have to live with us according to our laws. After 20 years, with the right attitude towards them, these people, for the most part, will become gray and for the West will be lost.
  32. +3
    April 20 2014 17: 00
    The entire "kitchen" of the CIA and the NSA has "cooked and cooked" a dish called "Ukraine 2014". About. And the author offers a logical forecast of the development of events. For Syria, for example, events are likely to develop according to this scenario. As for Ukraine ... If Russia acts in the manner prescribed by the author, then both Ukraine and Russia - alas - can share the fate of Syria. But here a radically different variant is possible. The introduction of troops and the complete, absolute elimination of the United States from the region. (Maximum - consulates in the Kiev, Odessa, Lvov provinces of the Russian Federation.)
    1. serge21
      +1
      April 20 2014 17: 24
      A supervolcano may wake up, or maybe not. Americanoids, IMHO, have one option. Ask to Russia. Other options are all bad ...
      1. 120352
        +2
        April 20 2014 20: 16
        serge21
        The volcano can be stimulated by the invention of academician Sakharov, such as what was tested on Novaya Zemlya in due time. Only neatly needed.
    2. +1
      April 20 2014 22: 32
      Quote: 1812 1945
      For Syria, for example, events are most likely to develop according to this scenario.

      Yes, they have already tried ... One mistake crept into the plans: they did not take into account Russia's aid and firm position in relation to intervention. And without external support, the Syrian separatists cannot do anything serious with Assad. Turkey tried to twitch, but after the words of VVP: "Just try it!", Erdagan was quickly blown away and began to shut up YouTube in order to stop the information (and where did it suddenly come from!?) About his financial affairs ...
      So, not everything is so simple and straightforward on the "Great Chessboard".
  33. +1
    April 20 2014 17: 07
    Let us all recall together how many empires in the East have broken their neck ...
    1. +5
      April 20 2014 17: 51
      For Americans, all historical warnings are no use. Tiny Vietnam is not enough. soldier
  34. +3
    April 20 2014 17: 09
    we simply do not have the right to admit this, how much blood and sweat of our people in the USSR was expended after the war and some kind of dumb, they drench their snout, donut hole from them and not production and gas transportation systems!
    1. +2
      April 20 2014 22: 36
      Quote: kod3001
      a hole from a donut to them rather than production and a gas transportation system!
  35. +2
    April 20 2014 17: 16
    Klitschko in point! Does this slogan really not reflect the love of the people for their servants?
  36. Verdent
    +1
    April 20 2014 17: 20
    Their entire program is money. Collaboration for money, revolution for money, support for money, war for money. And you must admit - it’s easy to buy a person when a beautifully dressed luxuriously dressed official from the United States flies to him, who injects himself with food to feed his family and survive, in a suit for several thousand dollars, from which he draws charm and trust, he offers a huge amount of money for a simple matter it would seem - to maintain Washington's course in everything. At such moments, few people think that in the future all this will result in violence, murder, the blood of innocent citizens, the destruction of cultures, states, economies, under the loud slogans of democracy and human rights, some just want to be full and on the side of the winner, which is very unfortunate .
    1. +1
      April 20 2014 23: 12
      Quote: Verdent
      it’s easy to buy a person when a handsome and luxuriously dressed official from the USA flies to him, who injects money to feed his family and survive, in a private airplane, in a suit for several thousand dollars, from which he pulls with charm and trust, he offers a huge amount of money for a simple it’s all about maintaining Washington’s course.

      Pavel, are you talking about ??? "working hard to feed his family and survive." About Yatsenyuk, Turchinov or Klitschko ??? Not!?
      Then, probably, about a simple maydaun from Ivano-Frakivska !? So to him never, none of the perfumed Yankees "in a suit for several thousand dollars" in the century will not fit. And not because he disdains, but because simple Gritska he is not going to buy, and "a huge amount of money" for any price, he will not offer him!
      But the leaders (but they do not work by the sweat of their brow, earning their daily bread!) They buy up on the vine, wholesale and retail! That's for sure! So there is no need to justify the sellers of a hard, dashing lot and hungry children crying in the shops. All this camarilla, as a rule, has long been "imported" citizenship, and they don't give a damn about ordinary Gritskov and Olesek, since they have the same goal: to satisfy their personal needs and power ambitions! IMHO.
  37. +3
    April 20 2014 17: 20
    Take control of all industrial enterprises in the south of Ukraine. To arm the anti-Maidan-minded population, and to control the borders of regions that are not subordinate to Kiev.
    1. koshh
      +1
      April 20 2014 19: 19
      Plus, remind the Ukrainian oligarchs of the southeast of their property. And if now they don’t take the side of the people, then they will really lose everything, the people will not forgive them - they will privatize everything.
  38. Lenochka
    +1
    April 20 2014 17: 25
    The United States has already prepared for Russia its new ambassador, who worked in Syria and Ukraine. More experienced than McFall! They are not going to lose!
    1. +1
      April 20 2014 17: 33
      Well? Let them send more. Tasty and good. What is his career for us? Syria fights off and, God forbid, fights off. And the Outskirts is still in the process. Let it taste the Russian air.
      1. Lenochka
        0
        April 20 2014 17: 36
        Subversive activities against the Russian Federation will increase
        1. 0
          April 20 2014 23: 49
          The fifth column and to the old, as she went to work, the line will be lined up for the new ambassador. Questions didn’t seem to be asked to Putin on this topic?
    2. +3
      April 20 2014 17: 48
      There is an old song: "... they ate this one who was not at all dressed, ate it in the forest under a banana ...". bully
      1. 0
        April 20 2014 18: 16
        I poked it there. I'm sorry. Now a plus. Already does not work :(
  39. +1
    April 20 2014 17: 27
    Yes, this is not Tsarev, this is our "Dad" from the series "Sea Devils" winked
    Damn, how similar good
  40. 0
    April 20 2014 17: 30
    News from the Okrainskiy state channel: a parrot was taught to speak by Putin ... to Yu. Lalalala
    Get fucked up. Who does not believe -link - http://ru.tsn.ua/politika/popugaya-nauchili-govorit-f-ck-you-putin-la-la-la-la-l
    a-361762.html
    It’s up to what insanity it is necessary to fall, what would such a thing be published on the state channel and not be ashamed?
    1. serge21
      0
      April 20 2014 17: 40
      Guest workers from (CENSORSHIP) can I teach?
      1. 0
        April 20 2014 18: 15
        Figs knows. I have not tried it yet.
  41. +1
    April 20 2014 17: 48
    I apologize for offtopic, but after the incident, the head of the militia of Slavyansk asks the Russian Federation to introduce peacekeepers.

    And also I congratulate everyone on Happy Easter.
  42. +2
    April 20 2014 17: 58
    Remember the x / f "The exploit of the scout", ".... a little patience, and the bristles turn to gold ...".
  43. simbeer
    +4
    April 20 2014 17: 59
    And how to undermine US influence, if their transshipment point still operates in Ulyanovsk?


    I live in Ulyanovsk. There is no NATO transfer point here.
    As far as I remember, there was information that they did not agree on the price of transit.
  44. +3
    April 20 2014 18: 00
    I used "AC", now you can go to Ukraine ...
    1. 120352
      +2
      April 20 2014 20: 21
      Agent 008
      Even Aunt Asya will not wash such feces! It’s necessary to boil. In the alkali.
  45. +4
    April 20 2014 18: 07
    Quote: Loki
    They will simply arrange a state of constant civil war on the border, and no troop deployment will save. Partisan methods have long been worked out in Syria, they will simply transfer them to the South-East of Ukraine, and, possibly, to Russia itself.

    I do not agree.
    Civil war will be. As a result, the country will split into 2 or 3 parts. It will end pretty quickly. Comparison with Syria is incorrect; Orthodoxy and Unianism do not imply fanatical faith, like Islam. Plus, people are more sane than Arabs, plus the standard of living is incomparable.
    Our army is able to cope with the partisans in mountainous areas, and in the conditions of plains everything is much simpler, it’s not the Great Patriotic War, forests were cut down.
    Now there is still at least some reserves, as soon as it is pressed by therapeutic starvation, people will not be up to ideologies, they will by all means try to return to normal life.
    1. Loki
      -5
      April 20 2014 18: 43
      Now there is still at least some reserves, as soon as it is pressed by therapeutic starvation, people will not be up to ideologies, they will by all means try to return to normal life


      There is a very good example - North Korea. There live experts on all forms of fasting, and their extreme forms. He created the image of the enemy - South Korea - successful, well-fed and positive. It would seem - there is something to strive for, but no - they prefer to see only enemies in them. And we are talking about one more people, there are Koreans on both sides.

      There is another good example - Turkmenistan. Where it was absolutely calm their leader created a cult of his own personality in a couple of years. And he forced 4 million people to do whatever he wanted, up to the point of absurdity.

      What makes you think that the best professionals in the field of information technology and psychological operations will not be able to turn the situation in Ukraine in their favor and wind up the people as they please?

      And no one is safe from guerrilla warfare. let there be not a guerrilla but a city war. Explosions, shelling of snipers, shelling of military installations. Does Russia have the strength to control every locality in Ukraine and millions of cities? I think not
      1. 120352
        0
        April 20 2014 20: 41
        Loki
        They will control themselves. How to teach and control.
      2. +2
        April 20 2014 21: 37
        Quote: Loki
        There is a very good example - North Korea. There live experts on all forms of fasting, and their extreme forms. He created the image of the enemy - South Korea - successful, well-fed and positive. It would seem - there is something to strive for, but no - they prefer to see only enemies in them. And we are talking about one more people, there are Koreans on both sides.

        Loki, have you been there in the DPRK?
        I was.
        Honestly, the starving and slaughtered North Koreans are a liberal myth.
        Yes, they are not rich, but not poor.
        Here and there in Russia and even in Azerbaijan ( hi ) some live poorer.
        They are ordinary people, they are also happy, upset, sad, love, have fun. This is their life and they are happy with it.
        And, a paradox (?), They do not see enemies in the South Koreans, but the South Korean government is an unconditional enemy.
        1. 0
          April 21 2014 08: 10
          In some places both in Russia and even in Azerbaijan (hi), some live poorer.

          In rural areas of Azerbaijan, by the way, amazing poverty!
      3. +1
        April 20 2014 21: 38
        "Will Russia have enough strength to control every settlement in Ukraine and millions of cities? It seems to me that no"

        You do not know Russia well. Russia defeated China during the Sino-Soviet conflict. Just do not say that Azerbaijan was also part of the Union. The main striking power of the Soviet army was the Russian army. And we saw the abilities of the Azerbaijani army during the conflict over Nagorno-Karabakh. And do you seriously think that Russia will not be able to control the territories taken under control? laughing

        Soviet-Chinese conflict in 1969: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CF%EE%E3%F0%E0%ED%E8%F7%ED%FB%E9_%EA%EE%ED%F4 % EB% E

        8%EA%F2_%ED%E0_%EE%F1%F2%F0%EE%E2%E5_%C4%E0%EC%E0%ED%F1%EA%E8%E9
      4. 0
        April 21 2014 08: 08
        No need to control settlements. It is only necessary to indicate the support of ours And everything will end immediately. Russia does not need any territory, nor fertile Earth - its bulk. Russia sells grain, and Ukraine with its fertile lands buys it. Yes Yes. In Russia and Kazakhstan.
        We just need to support the Russian people. And people themselves will deal with Bandera much better and faster.
    2. 120352
      +1
      April 20 2014 20: 33
      dikir-77
      The civil war began on the square of Nezalezhnosti, when irresponsible responsible muzzles from the west signed a piece of paper with Yanukovych, which was then poured into the toilet and began to pour a Molotov cocktail on honest and decent guys from Berkut with even greater enthusiasm, who were later accused of everything. This is the style of our "partner-foes": not to answer for anything, blame everything on Russia and grab!
      So the war is on. And, alas, not only civil. Much will now depend on how our president reacts to the East's appeal to introduce a peacekeeping contingent. But in addition to peacekeepers, it is necessary to send groups of specialists there so that those who yesterday, on Easter, fired at another checkpoint and killed ordinary men who defended their home, in time to catch and load into captivity, so that there was something to present to the "world community" later. And those that do not give up, destroy. And to do it in such a way that the number of those who want to go to Novorossiya becomes fewer with every second, and there are more people to put things in order in Kiev!
      And it's still time, perhaps, to think about whether to leave the English language in circulation on the territory of the "partners" as a result of this war, or to prohibit it and make do with only Russian and Spanish ...
  46. +2
    April 20 2014 18: 08
    "The objects that are seized will start working for the US economy."
    I doubt it. Most likely they will simply be destroyed in one way or another. If you have time, of course.

    "Formation of a negative opinion of the local population about the policy pursued by Russia"
    They have been doing this for 23 years in collaboration with all the authorities of "independent Ukraine.
    1. 120352
      +1
      April 20 2014 20: 48
      mamont5
      In this they have succeeded. Where were ours? How did our people influence the "elections" of the presidents of Ukraine and how they defined the ardent and passionate love of the so-called Ukrainians (Little Russians) to their older brothers, Russians? What, besides gesheft, did Zurabov do in Ukraine? Isn't it time to wake up, and those who overslept the situation (instead of the letter "p" it is more correct to use the letter "r", but will not be allowed to pass), to Novaya Zemlya, to the nuclear test site. And Zurabov, as having experience in diplomatic work, should be appointed head of the cemetery there. Oh, I made a reservation! Mayor of the settlement.
      1. 0
        April 21 2014 08: 12
        I fully support.
    2. 0
      April 21 2014 08: 12
      Right! America does not need any prom. enterprises in other countries, especially in Ukraine.
  47. Tanechka-clever
    +4
    April 20 2014 18: 12
    Without objecting to what was said by the author, I just want to express a sore point. Putin, not long ago, expressed a very important meaning, to put it simply, the United States is a society of individualists, and Russia is a collective society. But this is the deepest meaning of not just development and the future, but this is also the meaning of politics. This is the fundamental difference between religions - Catholicism for individualists, and Orthodoxy for the collective. What is the point - Europe developed and was built as a society of individualists, and Russia does not feel itself outside of collectivism. Ukraine today is a field of struggle between the "private" West and the "public" East. And the border of this dividing line runs through Ukraine and dividing it almost equally. The forces of nature play an important role here, and therefore the CIA and the SBU will lose to it in any case. And so let the United States won and all business is under their cap, but the people who will begin to "bend under themselves" due to a natural social element will begin to unite against their will or will be forced to launch a mechanism for "self-destruction" in Europe and it will not look so painless as in Poland today - an individual can only destroy himself. It is known that only the Soviet soldier threw himself under the tanks and covered the embrasures with his body - because the preservation of the public was more important for him than his private, his life. And if the United States remains in Ukraine today, it will sign a "death sentence" for itself, and Europe is in big trouble. Today, the choice is for the United States, they are not the first to follow the "roads of war" to Russia - and long-suffering Ukraine is again at a crossroads
    1. +2
      April 20 2014 18: 21
      Truth? Didn’t the Negroes rush into the embrasure ?! Well, you are somehow politically incorrect !!! You slander the stronghold of democracy. When a movie is shot in Hollywood, there an African-American will throw a grenade under the tanks and cover the embrasure with his body. And the whole world will see the heroism of the Americans!
  48. +3
    April 20 2014 18: 15
    Quote: Riperbahn
    News from the Okrainskiy state channel: a parrot was taught to speak by Putin ... to Yu. Lalalala
    Get fucked up. Who does not believe -link - http://ru.tsn.ua/politika/popugaya-nauchili-govorit-f-ck-you-putin-la-la-la-la-l

    a-361762.html
    It’s up to what insanity it is necessary to fall, what would such a thing be published on the state channel and not be ashamed?

    Yes, let them rage ... GDP does not talk much, but does a lot! For example, they have a parrot, we have Kharkov! Such a situation would suit me ...
  49. +1
    April 20 2014 18: 16
    I think that the first paragraph in the article should be the weakening of the influence of Russia, as the cornerstone of the policy of 3.14ndosia in Eastern Europe. What was happening in Ukraine was supposed to demonstrate to Belarus and Kazakhstan their immediate prospects and lead to a complete loss of Russia of its influence in the post-Soviet countries. Much in our future development depends on the outcome of Ukrainian events.
  50. 0
    April 20 2014 18: 20
    Ahahahaha! Now it’s clear from whom the Ukrainian media learned to present each defeat as a victory.
    The hell surrendered to them this Ukraine without the Crimea? The whole operation failed, they have no plans B, there are only threats. Meanwhile, without any fuss, we took the Arctic under our control, produced the first oil there, and in whose favor the conflict in Ukraine, besides, the southeast is already almost ours, because Putin is clearly preparing a surprise that will make the whole world gasp again.
  51. 0
    April 20 2014 18: 22
    Although prohibited by moderators, But! Until we destroy the vile Anglo-Saxon nation there will be no goodness or peace on the planet!!! Here it’s like with gangrene - it’s better to amputate!!!
    1. 120352
      +3
      April 20 2014 21: 07
      Volgarr
      Ordinary Americans and British are very far from what is happening in Ukraine. Not every one of them will find it on the map. Only poor foreigners and their own criminals participate in wars on the side of the United States, while normal people are busy with the problems of their family, home, children, and work. Very often they simply do not know anything about what is happening outside their social circle. Their lives are so strange. Being involved or interested in politics is considered bad manners there. They are also exempt from all kinds of elections.
      I remember when I was young, about 40 years ago, my classmates and I listened to the Voice of America and other radio stations. They worked on HF, which made it possible to transmit information over thousands of kilometers. And even then they only had VHF, that is, FM stations, the range of which was a dozen or two kilometers. There is music there. weather messages, advertising. That's all they know about the world. And all these wars are started by the “masters of the world,” such as Rothschild, Rockefeller, etc. This is a completely different echelon of society. Ordinary Americans, everyone I know, and these are teachers at my university and students (I work there for 3 months a year, the rest of the time at home in Russia) live quite modestly and have no idea what is happening in the world . So there is no point in destroying innocent people.
      1. +1
        April 21 2014 00: 06
        Quote: 120352
        And all these wars are started by the “masters of the world,” such as Rothschild, Rockefeller, etc. This is a completely different echelon of society.

        Education allows you to see the mechanisms and secret springs of processes. Unfortunately, this is not given to everyone. Many people have their first signal system working, which is why they want to destroy everyone on the opposite side of the front line.
        I had the opportunity to communicate with American sailors. Normal, cheerful, cheerful people. They are somewhat reminiscent of large, naive children. But, starting with the commander, you already see a cunning squint in the officer’s eyes. The breed becomes immediately visible. These are from the caste. They know their worth, they have already internally valued you, and sometimes they are very surprised when we did something faster and easier than what was prescribed in the planned action table.
        I can't say anything about the puppeteers. But also, probably, seemingly simple people...
        So my question arises: is it not enough for them? or are they pathologically power-hungry individuals? Or do they have such “toys”? Does conspiracy theory really tell the truth or are these horror stories for the plebos?
        But in any case, to deny the involvement of the YuSers in the events in Ukraine means to deny the obvious! Hence the natural desire to get even, and in order not to miss any of the culprits - it’s better than everyone else! And there the Lord will determine: who is guilty and who is not!
        So, often the Essence of things is hidden from the eyes of the average person.
  52. 0
    April 20 2014 18: 27
    Sorry guys! I haven't been funny for a long time! Are you cheaters?
    1. 0
      April 20 2014 18: 33
      Yes. And who is it?
      1. +1
        April 20 2014 18: 49
        Lekha! Cheaters are people who use advanced programs, ahead of your actions, beyond your capabilities, and not honestly!
  53. +3
    April 20 2014 18: 34
    Shame on Ukrainians! No self-esteem!!! Everyone wants freebies, but don’t work hard!!!
    1. +1
      April 20 2014 19: 02
      Hello Oleg! What is dignity in the ass? They don't respect themselves! They brought the country to the point of absurdity. Everything is free, that's a fact! Right now the east is sluggishly on strike, they are being killed, and they continue to feed the Ukrainian troops with borscht, what kind of nonsense? And now they are asking the GDP to intervene. Provocation and surprise. They looked at the Maidan on TV for 2 months and consoled themselves with the fact that it was not theirs. And as soon as they came to them, they took up arms... they passed... now hold on! Sorry! It's my personal opinion!
  54. +4
    April 20 2014 18: 36
    Quote: Interface
    I think by the autumn there will be another revolution in Ukraine. Social. Soon there will be nothing to wipe with, there is no way to buy a roll - then they will again pretend to be "brothers".

    This is how it all goes. I get the impression that GDP does not drive events forward, so that the people can spin a little in the fruits of their own actions, separate the wheat from the chaff and make a choice based on the harsh realities of the economy, and not on worthless political slogans. Moreover, the West itself is up to its ears in shit, and thinks that Putin will feed 45 million hungry mouths, and they will lead them...
    Nope, whoever feeds the girl dances her...
  55. +6
    April 20 2014 18: 39
    The states will finish the game, and there will be no expansion, but the opposite!
  56. +2
    April 20 2014 18: 41
    I'm fed up with the fake US sub-state. Something tells me that they won’t have long to reign. And to go to war against us, you have little guts. They are only such heroes in movies.
  57. +2
    April 20 2014 18: 41
    "
    What will happen: the entire media system will be thrown into the information struggle with Russia. In the event of a full-scale military conflict, the entire system will work only against Russia. And it’s already working."

    That’s right, this whole system is already working and it didn’t start yesterday. But we are already aware, thanks to Snowden.

    “As soon as the final mobilization takes place and American experts assess their readiness to wage a long-term conflict against the regular army, outbreaks will begin in places where the conflict escalates - government buildings, checkpoints, etc. According to experts, this situation will arise no later than May 20, 2014. "
    Come on, that's nonsense. In such a time it is possible to prepare a provocation on the border (and even then only a little), but not an army ready for a full-scale war.
  58. +1
    April 20 2014 18: 51
    everyone knows everything. but he wakes up as God willing. and not otherwise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  59. Lenochka
    0
    April 20 2014 19: 02
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV38nFyxyWA
  60. +2
    April 20 2014 19: 12
    The Judases who sold their country, you will burn in hell with a blue flame. And it is better to answer for all your abominable deeds during your lifetime, you inhumans.
  61. Loki
    +2
    April 20 2014 19: 14
    Quote: APASUS
    Quote: Loki
    1. Yanukovych - a pro-Russian protege. Yanukovych - a robber and a thief. Yanukovych steals away and fled to Russia. Conclusion - Russia protects thieves and robbers. Sub-output - protects, because it has the same system in itself.

    First I wanted to write a revision to your entire statement, but I’ll just get along with the joke
    “See, the girl is coming and smoking?”
    - Yes, so what?
    - So she's a prostitute!
    - Why?
    - Smokes - means drinks, drinks - means fucks, fucks - means a prostitute!
    Your conclusions will lead you so far


    Propaganda does not necessarily have to have logic. Propaganda is a thing in itself. 90% of the population stupidly believe in everything that is said on TV. Yes, on the same site, look, someone gave an instruction - Russia is forward, Russia has risen from its knees, GDP is great, and so on and so on, for the majority the logic has been completely lost, except for slogans, nothing at all. They also forgot the Slavic brotherhood - they divided Ukraine into ours and not ours, although the majority are not involved there at all, to the West and the East, there are constantly calls to kill “bad” Ukrainians, calls to send troops, advice on how to resist explosives, although there are by and large simple boys serve the account. In other topics, threats to Kazakhstan - they say, look at us, if we take away territory from you, we have a reason - the Russian population - and this is an ally and partner country in the CSTO, CU, etc. There is no logic here - a stupid herd feeling, any deviations from the general line of the party they immediately throw hats and minuses.

    And do you think that nothing like this can be done in Ukraine, with people who are directly involved in the process and who are affected by everything that happens in real life? Come on, they brought in a bunch of people from the site, who sit safely behind their computers and don’t give a damn. There, too, it will be a piece of cake to get started.
    1. +1
      April 21 2014 08: 52
      Listen, Loki, are you really from Azerbaijan?
      It feels like you just came from the moon. For 23 years, Ukraine has always been throwing mud at Russia at the governmental level and, constantly receiving economic preferences from Russia - from the price of gas to turning a blind eye to the actually organized import of Western products (meat) into Russia, etc. under the guise of Ukrainian - all the time “trading” its geographical position, threatening to stop gas transit, and in fact “for cookies” lying under the United States. We have not forgotten anything - and the humiliation when Ukraine, using American money, destroyed 10 (+1 rendered unusable) beautiful Tu-16o in Priluki, refusing even for money (or for writing off debts) to transfer them to Russia. And there are no precedents for the requirement to warn about any departure of ships from the port of Sevastopol, or to prohibit the renewal of these ships, taking into account that rent was constantly received. Ordinary people in Ukraine understood everything perfectly, and were surprised that Russia tolerated this. At the same time, the sentiments that prevailed in Galicia received the greatest influence in the power structures. Those who worked in Ukraine, creating material values, were called “vatniks” and were considered to have no right to express their opinion.
      Now the patience has simply run out. Ordinary Russian people in Ukraine rebelled against this sub-state. There are two possible ways of development: either the Ukrainians come to an agreement among themselves, and it will be better if without the participation of the junta stained with blood, or Ukraine in its previous form will cease to exist. At the same time, for a number of reasons, Russia as a state benefits from the first option, and Russia as a geopolitical space will inevitably come to the second.
      By the way, if Russia had invested as much money as the United States in its supporters in Ukraine (5 yards - they themselves admitted it!), then now there could be unrest not in the South-East, but in the North-West and West of Ukraine!
      Yes, there is no need to touch Kazakhstan, its leader is wise and leads a fairly balanced policy.
  62. +10
    April 20 2014 19: 20
    Looks like a major mess is brewing...
    “The Panama Canal, which is of strategic importance, connecting the Pacific and Atlantic oceans, has been controlled by the United States for more than 100 years. Construction of the canal was carried out under the control of the US Department of Defense from 1904 to 1913, and Panama actually became a US protectorate.


    Both Russia and China are preparing for a serious geopolitical showdown with the United States. One of the important elements of this preparation is the creation of a competitor to the Panama Canal - a canal in Nicaragua, controlled by Russia and China.

    China received a 100-year concession from the Nicaraguan leadership for the construction and operation of the canal. Russian companies will participate in the canal construction project. Construction is scheduled to begin in December 2014. The preliminary cost of the project is more than $40 billion.

    The planned start of operation is 2019, the final completion of construction is 2029.

    2 ports, airport, oil pipeline, etc. will be built.

    In order to thwart US attempts to violate plans to create a channel, Russia entered into an appropriate agreement with Nicaragua (so far with a certain time limit).
    Nicaragua allowed Russian warships and aircraft to visit the country during the first half of 2014. and patrol the territorial waters of Nicaragua in the Caribbean and the Pacific Ocean until 30 June 2015g.

    Nicaragua is currently an ally of Russia.
    Nicaragua was among the 11 countries that supported the position of the Russian Federation when voting in the UN on the issue of a referendum in Crimea.

    The UN General Assembly adopted a resolution recognizing the referendum in Crimea as illegal. The vote was 11 against, 58 abstained, 100 in favor.

    The position of the Russian Federation was supported by:

    Byelorussia
    Armenia
    Syria
    Cuba
    North Korea
    Sudan
    Zimbabwe
    Bolivia
    Venezuela
    Nicaragua
    P.S. The issue of placing a Russian base in Cuba is currently being considered."
    http://continentalist.ru/2014/03/rossiya-i-kitay-postroyat-konkurenta-panamskomu
    -kanalu-v-nikaragua/
    1. +1
      April 20 2014 19: 26
      Damn... This is news. I really want to give myself a boost laughing
  63. 0
    April 20 2014 19: 21
    THE GRU'S ADVICE IS NEARBY TO ARRANGE SOMETHING LIKE NIKITA.
  64. -3
    April 20 2014 19: 37
    Quote: Loki
    With all the will, the United States, with all the desire, cannot gather so many Slavic fighters, there are very few Christian fanatics, there are those who want it for money, but Russia has a lot of experience in dealing with such an audience.


    And why exactly are the Slavic fanatics needed? Any mercenaries will do. In addition, there is nothing to compare - the millionth Chechnya at what cost - there for the most part the local population went into the militants. Already 45 million. Ukraine will find. In Yugoslavia, they found, besides, Poland is nearby - they will feed. But the experience of the struggle was rather negative - they lost a bunch of people, they killed a bunch of people, and as a result, they came to the conclusion that you pay rent to Chechnya or money that you buy in fact.

    In fact, the United States in any case wins. They just think that the USA and Russia are competing for Ukraine - who will get it. But in reality - the USA does not need Ukraine; chaos in Ukraine is much more profitable for them. They have 2 birds with one stone - Russia and Europe, it weakens them both, it will not work with Russia, it will work with Europe, for example, they will arrange terrorism there and they will regularly blow up the gas pipeline with the oil pipeline. The goal of the United States is that Russia is stuck and fit in with troops in Ukraine.

    Do you think it was so difficult for them to crush the Southeast? No. They wanted in Kharkov - they instantly knocked everyone out. They just don’t need it, everything that happens is beneficial to them. The first swallows were already - they started shooting in Mariupol. On the block post attacked 3-4 people were killed. And so they will do it all the time. Enter the troops - they will do the same against your soldiers.

    Of course, the United States needs Ukraine. Crimea was especially needed. The United States will not do anything in Europe. If they organize terrorism there, Germany will quickly leave NATO and be together with Russia.
    Regarding the South-East, yes, it’s difficult to suppress. Because otherwise, it will be a war not between Russia and Ukraine, but between the United States and Russia. First of all, Russia will have to destroy the United States. And Ukraine will become part of Russia. All and completely .
    Anyone who shoots at Russians at checkpoints will be shot point-blank. Foreign mercenaries will arrive - so this completely frees up all of Russia's hands. Russia will begin military operations completely. And then it will be like this, in a month - it clears all of Ukraine and completely takes it under its protection. If there are mercenaries from other countries (Poland or anyone else) - they go and completely crush Poland or anyone else. And the USA-USA will be there right away destroyed by nuclear weapons as soon as it twitches.
    In essence, the United States is a loser, because it will be completely destroyed. There will simply be no other way.
    1. -1
      April 20 2014 20: 19
      Py.Sy.If there are mercenaries from other countries, Russia will crush those countries, which means it will become its own. And the United States will be completely destroyed by nuclear weapons, without warning, first of all.
    2. Loki
      -6
      April 20 2014 20: 20
      No, Russia has the option of all Ukraine - they are also happy with it. Because then all of Ukraine will have to be fed. In fact, they will go back to the times of the USSR, when the USSR fed all social services. the country at its own expense, eventually strained itself and collapsed. Now you have social media. the country is being hung up.

      There was already somewhere here data on the cost of Crimea - the cost of a car and a small cart, and if the same is done for Novorossiya or all of Ukraine - then everything acquired through back-breaking labor, as they say, will go to support the Ukrainian pants. And if you don’t keep your pants up, then there will be no attractiveness in Russia.

      In the absence of any ideology, the only attractive feature of Russia is its resources and its money. Russia has nothing else now.
      1. +1
        April 20 2014 21: 16
        Quote: Loki
        Russia has nothing else now.

        The granddaughter of a Crimean officer and the daughter of a Donbass miner... Wouldn’t you like to go through the forest? The third skull is very soon, and it is inevitable. Maybe stop tormenting what you use both in the toilet and on this site? Let this part of the body rest, otherwise you can undermine your health. We are polite people. If it doesn’t work out, we’ll come home and politely repeat it.
  65. +2
    April 20 2014 19: 38
    Quote: VNP1958PVN
    Klitschko in point! Does this slogan really not reflect the love of the people for their servants?


    Or: - “Vitalka - from ..isda detail”!!! drinks
  66. +1
    April 20 2014 20: 04
    And Ukraine will become part of Russia. All and completely...
    How do you like this? And it’s not a fact that they won’t shoot you in the back.
    http://dr-piliulkin.livejournal.com/517568.html#cutid1
    1. -1
      April 20 2014 20: 22
      They won’t. All gangs will be destroyed and completely disarmed. Russia, in this case, will completely disarm and completely destroy all gangs within a month.
  67. WORD
    +2
    April 20 2014 20: 06
    It's time to think about starting a war in the USA itself... The public there has already matured.
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  69. 0
    April 20 2014 20: 29
    Quote: Loki
    No, Russia has the option of all Ukraine - they are also happy with it. Because then all of Ukraine will have to be fed. In fact, they will go back to the times of the USSR, when the USSR fed all social services. the country at its own expense, eventually strained itself and collapsed. Now you have social media. the country is being hung up.

    There was already somewhere here data on the cost of Crimea - the cost of a car and a small cart, and if the same is done for Novorossiya or all of Ukraine - then everything acquired through back-breaking labor, as they say, will go to support the Ukrainian pants. And if you don’t keep your pants up, then there will be no attractiveness in Russia.

    In the absence of any ideology, the only attractive feature of Russia is its resources and its money. Russia has nothing else now.

    Russia has everything. The USA doesn’t have it all. Ukraine can be raised within three years without burdening Russia too much. + In Ukraine there are a lot of things that work in cooperation with Russia.
    Russian deputies will only need to drink less and work more. That's all.
    1. 0
      April 21 2014 08: 59
      Russia has everything. The USA doesn’t have it all. Ukraine can be raised within three years without burdening Russia too much. + In Ukraine there are a lot of things that work in cooperation with Russia.
      Russian deputies will only need to drink less and work more. That's all.

      Moreover, money from the USA and Europe can be returned and invested in real projects. Plus!
  70. +3
    April 20 2014 20: 42
    Returning to the direct line with Putin, one can see that the Ukrainian junta has been given time until May, then a complete collapse of all its activities.
    “It should be noted that the junta has reasons to be nervous. During the “Direct Line”, President Putin quite unambiguously outlined Russia’s position - and this position does not leave the junta any chance. Putin is going for a chokehold.
    So, about the gas capture. Ukraine, as is known, is not in its current form any independent state. It is not capable of providing citizens with even the current African standard of living without financial assistance from outside.

    Such assistance can be obtained from four sources - the States, the European Union, China and Russia. (I’m not considering the IMF, this rotten office sets such murderous conditions for countries that it’s cheaper to just lie down and die).

    The states are accustomed to robbing, not paying. Maybe they would step up and find some money for the junta if it were about Crimea - Crimea is incredibly important for both the United States and Russia.
    However, Crimea has already become completely Russian, it has been removed from the gaming table, and it is impossible to gain control over it, even if you send American bombers to bomb Ukraine with wads of dollars.
    Therefore, if there is any financial assistance from the United States, it will be symbolic, and it will not be used for social programs, but for targeted projects to support the Bandera movement and other Russophobia.

    The European Union is now on the verge of bankruptcy. He cannot find money even to help small Greece, and Ukraine, with a population of forty million, will receive nothing from him except handshakes and promises.

    China recently issued a loan of 3 billion to Ukraine, and Ukraine did not return this loan. Now China is suing Ukraine. Considering that China is a strategic partner of Russia, it would be somewhat naive for the junta to expect new large loans from it.

    Only Russia remains. Which is ready to help Ukraine financially... in exchange for completing the Russophobic project “Ukraine is not Russia.”
    http://www.russiapost.su/archives/22530
  71. +1
    April 20 2014 20: 43
    Quote: AleksPol
    History has not taught banderlogs anything. That in France or in Russia, the revolution destroyed those who unleashed it. And others come to power.

    Well, they didn’t teach world history. They were busy creating the History of Independent Ukraine.
    And who was there to teach? A boxer, a Baptist, an unfinished economist, a fascist?
  72. +1
    April 20 2014 20: 45
    If financial assets are transferred to the United States, as the author suggests, then Washington will acquire enemies in the form of local oligarchs.
    Yes, America doesn’t need this.
    It is enough to have control over the products produced by Ukraine, but here again the factor appears in the south/east of Ukraine, where heavy industry is located and where protests against Kyiv, and therefore against US policy, are strong.
    Russia must not let go of monitoring the pulse of the situation in the South/East.
    The protest can burn out, deflate and all the fervor go away.
    Russia needs to fully support the protest and pass every step of the junta through the public opinion of Russia, Ukraine and international institutions.
    A drop of water wears away a mountain, and what now appears to be the Kyiv mass, tomorrow will be a zilch with neither weight nor volume.
    Creeping equilibrium must not be allowed.
    There must be an explosion of public opinion for every outrage of the impostors.
  73. Leha leha
    +1
    April 20 2014 20: 47
    These are their plans
    1. +2
      April 21 2014 02: 08
      Quote: LehaLeha
      These are their plans


      The plans are straight Napoleonic...
  74. +1
    April 20 2014 20: 47
    Let's support the LAKOTA Indians in their quest to hold a referendum on their self-determination!
  75. 0
    April 20 2014 21: 16
    We won’t feed Ukraine????40 million???7 lol If Russian officials list (it’s possible incognito) wink ) 10-15% of the kickbacks received per year, we will not only feed Ukraine, but also carry out its complete industrialization!....
  76. +2
    April 20 2014 21: 24
    So, as information, one of the comments on one of the Ukrainian sites...
    Andrey 18.04.2014/18/18 1:XNUMX -XNUMX+26+1
    For those who yesterday did not have the opportunity to read the report of our political observer on the Geneva talks, we repeat) We know that the language of diplomacy is a very complicated thing, so we will try to summarize the results of the meeting in a simpler language. So. The meeting began with an impudent run over by representatives of the US Foreign Ministry, the meaning of this run over was something like this - "So, so, Lavrov, Deshchitsa said that he had some problems with you, let's talk and we will listen and settle" ... they came up with nothing like that, really ? Those. people from the doorway decided to put Ukraine and Russia on the same level, but they themselves wanted to act as a kind of beholders and problem solvers) With this enchanting idea in moronism and impudence, they were sent by Lavrov to a well-known address, and at the same time, Lavrov put in the place of a type of foreign minister Ukraine - Deschitsa, figuratively weighed the bream to him as a boy. The little girl wiped himself off and cried, Kerry gave him a slap on the head so he wouldn't whine, and Ashton gave him a cookie to comfort himself. Then everything did not go as planned in the US and EU. And after a while, Lavrov and Kerry retired TWO, in a separate room. They talked for about forty minutes, then called Ashton and the three of them talked. The little girl was sitting alone and sucking on a cookie. Then all three returned to the negotiating table. We tried to communicate with four. They talked for a long time, apparently, it was not possible to agree, Deschitsa tried to seem smart and made a serious face, but at the same time he spoke nonsense, for which he again received a slap on the head from Kerry, and as a result, choked on the remains of a cookie. Realizing that the topic could not be resolved in the presence of this idiot, Kerry and Lavrov again retired to a separate room, leaving Ashton to wipe up Deschitsa's snot. And again Lavrov and Kerry talked in private for a long time, then again they called Ashton ... Again the three of them talked. Deschitsa sat alone and enjoyed the sovereignty of Ukraine. After talking for some more time, the three main participants in the negotiations went into the hall where the meeting was taking place and made a final statement. The little girl put a cross under this piece of paper. In general, that's all. I have a question. Who else believes in the independence of the Kiev junta?)) I apologize for the slang. But if we put aside diplomatic etiquette and decency, the behavior of the USA and the EU at this meeting was very reminiscent of criminal showdowns a la the 90s.
  77. 0
    April 20 2014 22: 09
    USA versus Russia.
    Battlefield - Ukraine.
    The amers have plans and money and NATO behind them.
    Pro, nothing to say...
    We have neither one, nor the other, nor the third.
    The situation is worse than ever.
    Where did you yawn? When? Why?
    1. 0
      April 21 2014 02: 35
      If the United States is suicidal, then nothing will save them. It is useless to talk to idiots; the grave will correct them.
  78. leo44
    0
    April 20 2014 22: 15
    Ha, what a photo - Klitschko is burning - like he’s performing at his desk in first grade in front of these goblins. Maybe the concept of not allowing the descendants of monkeys with an IQ below the baseboard to govern the country should be introduced into world law?
  79. Pesnyadv
    +1
    April 20 2014 23: 42
    We are waging an information war on the territory of Russia and Ukraine.
    This is already a big minus.
    It is necessary to massively transfer the war to the territory of the United States and Europe.
    Russia today is good.
    But this is not enough!!!
    It is necessary to set the US and Europe on fire faster and more powerfully. Flood them with information that is destroying these countries!!!
    Otherwise, there will be war on our territories and OUR infrastructure will be destroyed...
  80. +1
    April 21 2014 00: 25
    Quote: dr.star75
    )I repeat once again: the size of the self-sustaining market is 200 million, so the customs union is vital.

    Russia + Kazakhstan + Belarus + Armenia + 30 MILLION GASTERS = already, as it were, a little more than 200
  81. 0
    April 21 2014 02: 03
    Quote: Andrey82
    Good material. The North American states do not wash so kataniyu create a sickly such Anti-Russia (even without taking into account the Southeast). The meaning is clear: arm, train and set. It turns out a copy of Saakashist Georgia, only much more evil and powerful. You can laugh as much as you like about the current military capabilities of Antirussi, but in 2-3 years, and at the latest - in 5-6 years, it is quite possible for them, with the help of NATO countries (primarily the USA, Poland, Germany, etc.) to create a fully operational and equipped with NATO and modernized Soviet weapons army numbers. 200-300 thousand. Moreover, the basis of this army will be the nationalists of the Bandera-Galician spill. And further ... further not far and to the cherished dream of the Anglo-Saxons - a long-standing military conflict between the two parts of the essentially unified Russian people.
    An effective response would be to weaken the United States by abandoning the dollar. Another way to weaken the star-striped evil would be to help all the forces that can be opposed to the American empire (Islamists in the East, Latin American countries and minorities in the United States themselves). But apparently the refusal to sell resources for the dollar will be dragged on as much as possible by the liberals (read - enemy agents) in our government. The tactics of constant negotiations will also be used with the aim of blurring the situation and blowing dust into our eyes. Yes, and how to undermine US influence, if their transshipment point still operates in Ulyanovsk? This is nonsense, they impose sanctions and wipe their feet on us, set neighbors on us, and we kindly help them to get out of Afghanistan without interference. They will not appreciate this, they will perceive it only as evidence of weakness.

    Germany is not interested in the USA. Poland, yes, but not Germany.
    And the most important and strong weakening of the stars-striped evil is not help to Islamists, Latin American countries. No. This is the revival and formation of Russia, the Empire of Good. What the United States is afraid of and is doing everything so that this does not happen and does not happen. That is, the revival and formation of a very strong, strong and powerful RUSSIA, its own country, and not some other Islamist states. And already other countries -they will strive for a strong, strong and powerful, kind and peaceful, strong, strong and reliable Russia. Their country, their fatherland, state, people - Russia must be constantly strengthened and developed and strengthened.
    Regarding Afghanistan, I agree, it is necessary for the American caravans to be shot on the detour route. These scum, they definitely don’t appreciate it.
    In general, Russia just needs to give the United States a day so that it can get out of Ukraine, but no, in a day, just destroy the United States. Everything. Everything goes towards this. The United States is either suicidal. They don’t understand what comes first , during the outbreak of war, it is they, the United States, who will be destroyed first, and completely. Since they are the ones who stick their pig snout into places where they don’t need to go. They create unrest, chaos, confusion, wars, evil, so to speak
    1. 0
      April 21 2014 02: 07
      let's say, the controlled chaos of evil. And that is why, in the event of war, the United States will be the very first and completely destroyed. Because they are the instigators of all this b...ddom! Don’t they understand that they will be buried?
  82. 0
    April 21 2014 02: 15
    Quote: Loki
    Quote: APASUS
    Quote: Loki
    1. Yanukovych - a pro-Russian protege. Yanukovych - a robber and a thief. Yanukovych steals away and fled to Russia. Conclusion - Russia protects thieves and robbers. Sub-output - protects, because it has the same system in itself.

    First I wanted to write a revision to your entire statement, but I’ll just get along with the joke
    “See, the girl is coming and smoking?”
    - Yes, so what?
    - So she's a prostitute!
    - Why?
    - Smokes - means drinks, drinks - means fucks, fucks - means a prostitute!
    Your conclusions will lead you so far


    Propaganda does not necessarily have to have logic. Propaganda is a thing in itself. 90% of the population stupidly believe in everything that is said on TV. Yes, on the same site, look, someone gave an instruction - Russia is forward, Russia has risen from its knees, GDP is great, and so on and so on, for the majority the logic has been completely lost, except for slogans, nothing at all. They also forgot the Slavic brotherhood - they divided Ukraine into ours and not ours, although the majority are not involved there at all, to the West and the East, there are constantly calls to kill “bad” Ukrainians, calls to send troops, advice on how to resist explosives, although there are by and large simple boys serve the account. In other topics, threats to Kazakhstan - they say, look at us, if we take away territory from you, we have a reason - the Russian population - and this is an ally and partner country in the CSTO, CU, etc. There is no logic here - a stupid herd feeling, any deviations from the general line of the party they immediately throw hats and minuses.

    And do you think that nothing like this can be done in Ukraine, with people who are directly involved in the process and who are affected by everything that happens in real life? Come on, they brought in a bunch of people from the site, who sit safely behind their computers and don’t give a damn. There, too, it will be a piece of cake to get started.

    Listen, State Department official, stop throwing your cliches at us and dividing us. We are united. And what has divided us now is the West and the USA.
    Regarding Yanukovych, he is not pro-Russian at all. He has done nothing for Russia.
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  84. 0
    April 21 2014 02: 30
    Quote: Loki
    Quote: APASUS
    Quote: Loki
    1. Yanukovych - a pro-Russian protege. Yanukovych - a robber and a thief. Yanukovych steals away and fled to Russia. Conclusion - Russia protects thieves and robbers. Sub-output - protects, because it has the same system in itself.


    Your conclusions will lead you so far


    Propaganda does not necessarily have to have logic. Propaganda is a thing in itself. 90% of the population stupidly believe in everything that is said on TV. Yes, on the same site, look, someone gave an instruction - Russia is forward, Russia has risen from its knees, GDP is great, and so on and so on, for the majority the logic has been completely lost, except for slogans, nothing at all. They also forgot the Slavic brotherhood - they divided Ukraine into ours and not ours, although the majority are not involved there at all, to the West and the East, there are constantly calls to kill “bad” Ukrainians, calls to send troops, advice on how to resist explosives, although there are by and large simple boys serve the account. In other topics, threats to Kazakhstan - they say, look at us, if we take away territory from you, we have a reason - the Russian population - and this is an ally and partner country in the CSTO, CU, etc. There is no logic here - a stupid herd feeling, any deviations from the general line of the party they immediately throw hats and minuses.

    And do you think that nothing like this can be done in Ukraine, with people who are directly involved in the process and who are affected by everything that happens in real life? Come on, they brought in a bunch of people from the site, who sit safely behind their computers and don’t give a damn. There, too, it will be a piece of cake to get started.

    For them, we are Indians. Their goal is to destroy us. But so far, they cannot do this in an open military confrontation, they do not have enough power and we are not so weak yet. For this, they include the Indian scenario - us with each other - to quarrel - ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING IS USED HERE, ENTIRE INSTITUTIONS ARE WORKING ON THIS IN THE STATES - the poverty of the ordinary worker and the oligarchs, religion, nationality - comes into use, ANYTHING GOES, anything that can help divide us and push us against each other to internecine strife, internecine war-massacre. Then they, as they did long ago with the Indians, sail on their ships, like bringing us peace and “democracy” for us. Some of ours go over to their side and help them in destroying ourselves. Having destroyed us, they finish off, slaughter our people who went over to their side, and in the end, they slaughter us and, like America, populate our land with themselves.
    Well, in short, like this.
    Therefore, we need to do everything so that this does not happen, so that they do not have a reason and opportunity to quarrel with us and kill each other. Are the reasons clear? We are clear. We are acting. We are not sleeping. Russia will grow stronger and mature, develop and grow rich, bloom and smell. And for the traitors, murderers and thieves of Russia, only death!
    When I lived in the USSR, it’s funny, I knew that everyone in the USSR was Russian. But now we’ve all been stupidly divided and we only fight with each other. Yes, it’s Russia that everyone needs to go to and unite with Russia. Because Russia is strong and can to protect and unite everyone. It is one state, one strong, united and big country, in our case it is Russia, that can withstand all adversities. And not small, scattered princelings, pea states, who imagine themselves to be who knows what and who are fighting with each other hand to the enemy.
    Weak and small countries are not residents.
    1. philip
      +1
      April 21 2014 02: 41
      We are Indians for them

      Because they are honest, just like us. YES ONLY HERE there was a miscalculation: we are not INDIANS.
  85. philip
    0
    April 21 2014 07: 05
    I liked to become.
    1. Formation of a negative opinion of the local population about the policies pursued by Russia - American strategists only partially coped with this task. The reason is simple, in Russia there is the FSB, which also does not sleep and takes action. Therefore, a negative opinion was formed only in the western, pro-Ukrainian regions and partly in Kyiv, where Russia was historically viewed negatively. The task of expanding influence in the eastern regions was not solved, and even vice versa. In the current situation, the Ukrainian media, and even in the eastern regions, are conducting active propaganda, but if representatives of the people’s republics manage to seize and neutralize the broadcasting of the Ukrainian media, this position in the East of Ukraine will be lost completely.
    What will happen: at the moment this is the main direction of the future work of the American intelligence service. Now all elements of the implemented program will be aimed specifically at accomplishing this task. The media and Internet system that the Americans managed to build in Ukraine will play a big role. Later in this article, the created media network will be described in detail.

    I don't agree with this part of the article. Firstly, UKRAINE IS PART OF RUSSIA. And secondly, the first is enough.