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Putin frightened Western sausages

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The chairman of the “Consent Center” faction in the Seimas Janis Urbanovich in an interview with “Vesti Segodnya” drew three scenarios for the future of Russia. The most dangerous option seems to be the most likely chairman: Attack Russia!


- I know that you closely follow the events in Ukraine and their reflection in the media of different countries. Who is lying more?

- Everyone lies. All keep back. All elegantly manipulate the facts under the desired concept of events. The Western press, talking about the unrest in the east of Ukraine, almost literally repeats the texts of the reports of Russian TV channels from Maidan. But there is nothing surprising: in times of crisis, information policy is always becoming so deceitful, self-serving and unprincipled.

From all that today "speak and show" in the West, it is possible to crystallize two main theses explaining what is happening. The first of them is conservative: "It is always like that with Russians, therefore they cannot be trusted, but only in the face." The second, more liberal, can be formulated approximately like this: “Putin is the new Hitler, and the Russian people are dark and suffer from their darkness, they feel sorry for him, he needs help.”

- And how do you feel about these theses?

- Concerning the whole Russian people, I can’t comment on anything, but I’ll say a few words about Putin. I believe that Putin should be viewed not as a specific person, but as the personification of today's Russian elite and the resultant of many of the forces that exist in this elite. If it were not so, he would not have lasted at his post for six months. And his phrase from the “Crimean speech” that “we were deceived over and over again, made decisions behind our back, put before a fait accompli”, I would suggest to consider and understand literally - as a result of the experienced and rethought.

Indeed, incomplete 15 years passed between the promise of US Secretary of State George Schulz not to expand NATO to the east and the fifth expansion of the alliance! And the West continued to use "salami tactics" against Russia. When the next cut piece was too large, Putin left the sausage shop, slamming the door loudly. Than pretty scared the attendants at the same time sausages.

- What, in your opinion, will be the formula of relations between the West and Russia in the new political situation?

- There are only three main possible strategies.

First strategy in general terms, wittily and bitingly stated in the article by the French writer Patrick Besson “Why Russia needs to declare war”: the time has come to complete the work begun by Napoleon and Hitler, “you need to take Moscow, because it is now possible.” As you know, in every joke - only a fraction of the joke. At least we can talk about modern modification of the Cold War - it’s not for nothing that this old woman with a stick is often commemorated in the West today. In such a scenario, the minimum program may be different, but the maximum program is only one: a radical “downsizing” of Russia, the cessation of its existence in the form in which it has taken place over the last several centuries.

Second script I would call pacifying or rather diplomatic. He assumes - while maintaining the whole double-edged rhetoric - conducting further negotiations, developing trade and reaching compromises on a wide range of issues, including the future structure of the Ukrainian state, as well as discussing such unpleasant things for the West as “Russian concerns”, of which the situation of ethnic Russians in some EU countries.

I think that Lavrov was referring to something like that when in January in Munich he said that relations between Russia and the EU approached the “moment of truth”, that it was necessary to solve “basic issues” and that indefinitely delay the state of uncertainty, apparently does not work". Is such a scenario currently possible? Possible, although not very likely. After all, tango, as you know, should dance two.

The third possible strategy of the West - “Neither war nor peace”, a sort of Trotskyism of the XXI century. The information war continues, appeals like: “We need to deal with Russians like men”, but everything remains at the level of emotions and demonstrations. The expectation that the other side will take some emotional step will make a mistake - in the end, the grandmaster can “yawn” the figure.

Judging by how events are developing now, the first scenario seems more likely - Attack Russia! There are many reasons for this - starting with the approach of the electoral cycle in the USA (democrats have always been reproached for weakness, and it is important for Obama to convince the American elite of the opposite) and ending with the clinical confusion that can now be observed in Europe.

- And you do not exaggerate the paint?

- No, today in Europe and the United States, as Besson put it, “scorn, disgust and hatred” reigns in Russia, and from this you can cook the coolest mess. More than others, it seems, Lithuanians are offended by Putin’s Russia. However, this can be understood: if the Vilnius summit had been crowned with the signing of an association agreement with Ukraine, the Lithuanian capital would have entered the European history Along with Helsinki, Maastricht or Yalta. But the “holiday” was spoiled by the Lithuanians.

And now we will conduct a mental experiment and imagine what will happen if the hawks of the present day succeed in offending or frightening collective Putin? I am ready to imagine that the Russian leadership in this case will unfold on 180 degrees and will try to agree “big” with the Chinese, even on Chinese terms.

Russia has demonstrated this kind of maneuver more than once in its history. Faced with a monolithic anti-Russian "European stance", Russia turned for many years to the south and east, while achieving impressive successes.

It remains to add that these days 200 is being celebrated as the entry into Napoleon Paris of allied forces led by Alexander I. This means that sooner or later, but Russia always returned to Europe ...
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  1. bronik
    bronik April 19 2014 07: 07
    +34
    I haven’t been to Paris for a long time. If the EU insists, I’ll have to go.
    1. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ April 19 2014 07: 29
      +37
      Oh, they forgot the Russian flag in the center of Europe! Again scribble masturbate to Russia.
      1. ele1285
        ele1285 April 19 2014 08: 01
        +69
        Quote: vladimirZ
        Oh, they forgot the Russian flag in the center of Europe!
        1. igor_m_p
          igor_m_p April 19 2014 08: 32
          +56
          Somehow I immediately remembered a joke:
          In the 18th-19th centuries, every educated person in Russia had to know French. As a result, the Russians reached Paris. At the beginning of the XX century, in the schools of the USSR, the main studied foreign language was German. As a result, the Russians reached Berlin. Now in Russian schools and universities, the main language studied is English. Russia has never had such a rich choice ... wassat
          1. tokens2
            tokens2 April 19 2014 19: 14
            +1
            Somehow I immediately remembered a joke:
            In the 18th-19th centuries, every educated person in Russia had to know French. As a result, the Russians reached Paris. At the beginning of the XX century, in the schools of the USSR, the main studied foreign language was German. As a result, the Russians reached Berlin. Now in Russian schools and universities, the main language studied is English. Russia has never had such a rich choice ...


            I think ... that there will be enough Russian amers with errors laughing
            They (the USA) always protect their interests in foreign territory.
      2. Predator
        Predator April 19 2014 08: 02
        +9
        Soviet flag!
        1. blizart
          blizart April 19 2014 08: 45
          +10
          Quote: Predator
          Soviet flag!
          Yes, all the same, let's stick to the historical context, the Soviet flag. Or if you want, the flag of the united East led by Russia
          1. avg
            avg April 19 2014 12: 11
            +5
            Quote: blizart
            Yes, all the same, let's stick to the historical context, the Soviet flag. Or if you want, the flag of the united East led by Russia

            You know, once I was asked to make a splash screen for a section on a foreign website. The slogans were supposed to appear on the page one by one: "For the faith, the Tsar and the Fatherland! For the Motherland, for Stalin! For our Soviet Motherland! Always for Russia!" In my opinion, this screen saver most fully reflects the essence of service for the good of the Motherland.
        2. Corsair
          Corsair April 19 2014 10: 08
          +12
          Quote: Predator
          Soviet flag!

          For the West, he RUSSIAN!

          Remember the head of the US military, James Forrestal, who threw himself out of the window of a psychiatric clinic where he was passing "rehabilitation course in view of the heightened maniacal feeling of the US occupation by "Soviets" "
          During illness, according to unconfirmed reports, Forrestal repeated: “Russians are coming, Russians are coming. They everywhere. I saw Russian soldiers»
          1. avg
            avg April 19 2014 13: 01
            +2
            Remember the head of the US military, James Forrestal, who jumped out of the window of a psychiatric clinic

            Even captain Vrungel used to say, "Whatever you call a yacht, so it will float!"
            Here is the "shot down pilot" D. McCain and burned the aircraft carrier "Forrestal" and 25 planes in addition. laughing
    2. Predator
      Predator April 19 2014 08: 00
      +8
      So, let's go ?!
      1. Barakuda
        Barakuda April 19 2014 08: 20
        +18
        Now! I’ll clean my seagull with bread and boots! smile
        1. Spnsr
          Spnsr April 19 2014 14: 34
          +1
          Quote: Barracuda
          Now! I’ll clean my seagull with bread and boots! smile

          do not! in the Atlantic swill laughing
        2. edge
          edge April 19 2014 15: 53
          0
          guys wait for me, I’m running for the sickle.
          1. Kazanec
            Kazanec April 19 2014 20: 11
            0
            I'm behind the bat in the car and also with you! :)
      2. Bi_Murza
        Bi_Murza April 19 2014 09: 12
        +10
        I'm with you too soldier
      3. kia64
        kia64 April 19 2014 09: 40
        +8
        I am ready to go with you !!!
        1. Magadan
          Magadan April 19 2014 10: 20
          +23
          GUYS, AND IF IF CHE - TYPE STIRLITS!
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          2. ele1285
            ele1285 April 19 2014 10: 54
            +26
            Quote: Magadan
            GUYS, AND IF IF CHE - TYPE STIRLITS!

            A neighbor lives in Energodar (Zaporizhzhya region), and her father named Dodik (he is under seventy) has long been living in Israel. And in a conversation on Skype, he appeared in front of the camera, pressing a compress to his left eye, under which a decent bruise “glowed”. Daughter got excited:
            - Dad, what happened?
            - Eh, daughter, I still got off well, but my neighbor Marek was definitely unlucky, they hit him on the head with a brick.
            - How, I don’t understand anything, do you have Arabs rebelling again?
            “No, daughter, worse, damned Muscovites beat us!”
            - Who ??? Can you really explain what “Muscovites” are in Israel ?! - the daughter exclaimed in alarm.
            - You understand, I went to the Ukrainian embassy yesterday with Marek, but we are from Ukraine. And what did we do, only two times we managed to shout “Glory to Ukraine!” When Russian Jews, who are for Russia, started throwing stones at us. We call them mos-yami. Most of all I was struck by the neighbor Sofa, with whom we have been living on the same site for twenty years, so he and his son also threw bricks and stones at me and Marek and shouted that we were “Bandera faces”. Someone hit me, I barely managed to run to the car, but Marek was taken to the hospital! You can imagine that in the Union I was a "Jewish face", and now in Israel it has become a "Bandera face"! How do you like it? Okay, I'll go change the compress.
            Not mine.
            1. blizart
              blizart April 19 2014 11: 55
              +3
              What is it, in Dzhambul recently a man (not his own) woman "flunked" at a wedding, argued for Vkraina
          3. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker April 19 2014 12: 05
            +11
            Quote: Barracuda
            Now! I’ll clean my seagull with bread and boots!

            Quote: Bi_murza
            I'm with you too

            Quote: kia64
            I am ready to go with you !!!

            Quote: Magadan
            GUYS, AND IF IF CHE - TYPE STIRLITS!


            I will only say one thing.
            For the first time after the collapse of the USSR, I realized that no one reptile would dare to utter a glimpse of my country without fear of getting a red and brazen face.
            good
          4. Riperbahn
            Riperbahn April 19 2014 13: 02
            +2
            Light bonfires. Keep fit :)
          5. Spnsr
            Spnsr April 19 2014 14: 35
            +1
            Quote: Magadan
            GUYS, AND IF IF CHE - TYPE STIRLITS!

            laughing
    3. Sunjar
      Sunjar April 19 2014 08: 04
      +14
      Quote: Diet Janis
      in this case, the Russian leadership will deploy to 180


      Not on 180, but on 90. The East, although it is called the East, but all these countries are south of Russia.

      The West is still floating in its illusions.

      They won’t defeat Russia in the war — this already needs to be cut off on the nose. Even if we agree on the non-use of nuclear weapons, if Russia feels that everything is lost, it will give such a volley that a scribe will come to all Earth civilization.

      They will not be able to crush Russia economically either, because the authorities can reorient themselves to Asia and India (and not only they can, but they are already doing it). And if the West dares to introduce the "Iron Curtain" again, then Europe itself will be bent first, and the United States after them. In modern society, the whole World is highly integrated. Sales markets and production are linked to each other. You hit in one place, and it hurts in two at once. Now they can show off about oil and gas, and when winter starts again in Europe, they will crawl to ask Russia to let them gas.

      Do not forget that the destruction of the USSR gave Europe and the USA the opportunity not to bend in the 90's. Then they were already in their last breath in reality. And the collapse of the USSR gave them the opportunity to rob Russia and all the Union republics, opened up markets for their products from sneakers, jeans and chewing gum to cars. If all this is abruptly cut off, as many from the West want, the European economy will die. And the United States can be dealt with by abandoning the calculation of oil in dollars, and indeed all operations are performed in a different currency. Many newspapers write about this, not only assuming it, but offering Russia a version of the action (in fact, it is)

      But politically, these impotent people can’t do anything. Run, jump, scream, hysteria, threaten. But the elephant does not give a shit about Pug. Russia calmly fulfills its plans.
      1. Angro Magno
        Angro Magno April 19 2014 14: 32
        +1
        Not on 180, but on 90. The East, although it is called the East, but all these countries are south of Russia.

        It has long been said that Russia is neither East nor West. She is the North.
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    5. I do not care
      I do not care April 19 2014 08: 16
      +26
      Quote: bronik
      I haven’t been to Paris for a long time. If the EU insists, I’ll have to go.
    6. Revolver
      Revolver April 19 2014 08: 17
      +7
      the first scenario seems more likely - Attack Russia! There are many reasons for this - starting with the approach of the electoral cycle in the United States (Democrats have always been blamed for weaknesses, and it is important for Obama to convince the American elite of the opposite)

      Obama now does not matter anything except the budget. He still won’t get the third term, and the remaining couple of years he needs to somehow get money from the Republican Congress, and those all the time strive to deprive the budget of the main Obama initiative - his health care program. In such circumstances, hell he dares to shake out of Congress many funds for the war in faraway Ukraine. Most likely it will be limited to symbolic help, such as rations in which the expiration date all the same soon expires.
      1. sergey72
        sergey72 April 19 2014 09: 18
        0
        Quote: Nagan
        3rd term, he still will not receive

        So, according to the US constitution, only two terms can reign? The only precedent violation is F.D. Roosevelt ... yes
        1. Revolver
          Revolver April 19 2014 21: 57
          0

          So, according to the US constitution, only two terms can reign? The only precedent violation is F.D. Roosevelt ... yes

          Well, that's why I say that he still won’t get the third term. If I remember correctly, before the FDR the restriction of 3 terms was a tradition (perhaps because Washington left after 2 terms), and after it and largely because of it it was done by law, or rather an amendment to the Constitution.
          Quote: sergey72
          Quote: Nagan
          3rd term, he still will not receive
    7. Validator
      Validator April 19 2014 10: 01
      +4
      They have not yet answered us for Alaska!
    8. StolzSS
      StolzSS April 19 2014 10: 15
      0
      So let's go together! soldier
    9. Ross
      Ross April 19 2014 11: 40
      +2
      Their history does not teach anything.
    10. Skipper2050
      Skipper2050 April 19 2014 12: 18
      +5
      What bloodthirsty Europeans are all the same, we’ll change the old tanks at the Brandenburg Gate for new ones.
    11. alexng
      alexng April 19 2014 12: 26
      +1
      Quote: bronik
      I haven’t been to Paris for a long time. If the EU insists, I’ll have to go.


      You are modest, you have to leave your autograph on the statue of liberty on the new Victory Day!
    12. ele1285
      ele1285 April 19 2014 12: 37
      +1
      Quote: bronik
      I haven’t been to Paris for a long time. If the EU insists, I’ll have to go.

      They are idiots, how can such a country be defeated?

      In the dark alley, the gopniks attacked Anatoly Wasserman ... And unexpectedly they received a secondary technical education!
    13. edge
      edge April 19 2014 15: 19
      0
      sooner or later, but Russia always returned to Europe ... Russia returned to Europe and spoke with them on an equal footing when it was necessary to use the right of the winner as long as possible and everything would be ok. they would understand that, that’s their mentality.
  2. Lantau
    Lantau April 19 2014 07: 07
    +42
    Putin frightened Western sausages

    At the meeting of the Big Eight, Angela Merkel, to annoy Putin, said: “And today I dreamed that I was appointed President of the Earth!” Obama assented: - And I dreamed that I was appointed president of the universe! Putin slowly drinks coffee and calmly replies: “But I dreamed that I had not approved anyone.”
    1. Revolver
      Revolver April 19 2014 09: 16
      +30
      Quote: Lantau
      And I dreamed that I had not approved anyone.

      Less to you for plagiarism and distortion of the facts. And here is the original.
      Nikolay Rubtsov 1960
      TEHRAN DREAMS
      Far from the northern ruins
      Blue Tehran burns.
      - What a meeting, Marshal Stalin! -
      Sly Churchill says.
      - I believe in good omens,
      Today I had a dream.
      The leader of the planet
      I was appointed in a dream!
      Of course this elevation
      Please do not take it seriously ...
      - What, right, a coincidence! -
      With a smile, Roosevelt said. -
      As a sign of our meeting unforgettable
      Today I had a dream.
      Leader of the universe
      I was appointed in a dream!
      Thinking, Stalin was not embarrassed,
      Slowly lit up the pipe:
      - I also had a dream today -
      I have not approved anyone!
      1. sergey72
        sergey72 April 19 2014 09: 19
        +7
        Quote: Nagan
        Azdumy Stalin was not embarrassed,
        Slowly lit up the pipe:
        - I also had a dream today -
        I have not approved anyone!

        Thank you, I didn’t know! soldier
      2. Lantau
        Lantau April 19 2014 10: 13
        0
        Less to you for plagiarism and distortion of the facts. And here is the original.
        Nagan, before you blame anyone for anything, take the trouble to at least find out where it is taken. The minus is mutual!
        1. Revolver
          Revolver April 19 2014 21: 46
          0
          Quote: Lantau
          Nagan, before you blame anyone for anything, at least find out where it is taken

          Why work? Good taste rules require you to specify the source and give the link without waiting for questions. That is, it turns out that you plagiarized from the plagiarists and did not even bother to refer to them.
          1. Lantau
            Lantau April 20 2014 01: 54
            0
            Quote: Nagan
            Quote: Lantau
            Nagan, before you blame anyone for anything, at least find out where it is taken

            Why work? Good taste rules require you to specify the source and give the link without waiting for questions. That is, it turns out that you plagiarized from the plagiarists and did not even bother to refer to them.

            I’ll somehow manage without your advice!
  3. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov April 19 2014 07: 07
    +10
    these days marks the 200th anniversary of the entry into Napoleonic Paris of the allied forces led by Alexander I. This is to the point that sooner or later, but Russia has always returned to Europe
    Next time I think in Paris and Berlin we won’t stop but move on ... Their history doesn’t teach anything .. We will teach again! wassat
    1. ele1285
      ele1285 April 19 2014 08: 04
      +4
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Next time I think in Paris and Berlin we will not stop but let's move on.

      So it’s not in vain that Putin repeated several times in communication: from Lisbon to Vladivostok, fat gay people should think about it.
    2. Predator
      Predator April 19 2014 08: 05
      +6
      Yesterday we raised 12 sausages near Dukhovschina, come again, bury everyone!
    3. sir.jonn
      sir.jonn April 19 2014 08: 25
      +1
      Quote: MIKHAN
      these days marks the 200th anniversary of the entry into Napoleonic Paris of the allied forces led by Alexander I. This is to the point that sooner or later, but Russia has always returned to Europe
      Next time I think in Paris and Berlin we won’t stop but move on ... Their history doesn’t teach anything .. We will teach again! wassat

      Against this background, a liberation trip to America will be very appropriate.
      The only thing that confuses me is that the Russian principled impetus to action was usually characterized by the words of Alexander Nevsky "Whoever comes to us with a sword will come from the sword and die", while as a sword from the west I watch the endless screeching and clattering of scrap metal near our borders, some kind of shitty sword turns out.
    4. edge
      edge April 19 2014 16: 05
      +1
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Next time I think in Paris and Berlin we will not stop but let's move on ..

      sorry, they didn’t reach London;
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  5. ammunition
    ammunition April 19 2014 07: 08
    0
    Here is such info -
    http://vlad-dolohov.livejournal.com/850120.html
    If this is so, then Janis Urbanovich calms himself by fairy tales. laughing
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru April 19 2014 07: 38
      +1
      Quote: ammunition
      Yanis Urbanovich calms himself by fairy tales.

      You shouldn't be talking about Mr. Ya.U., it's just that not everyone is "stupid" abroad.
      1. elmonje
        elmonje April 19 2014 09: 23
        +5
        You shouldn't be talking about Mr. Ya.U., it's just that not everyone is "stupid" abroad.

        So after all, their problem is not that they are stupid, but that they stubbornly do not understand the ethnic characteristics of the Russian people, the civilization of warriors, first of all, "disliked". Some time passes, the memory of new Western generations about the past cuffs to their ancestors is smoothed out and again they ride a horse to us. They get drunk on the snake and everything calms down until a new round of samsara for the colonialists. It may not be stupidity, but you can't really call it sharpness either :)
    2. Lyokha79
      Lyokha79 April 19 2014 08: 21
      +5
      They are all reassuring themselves now. They compose fairy tales about how terribly they will punish Russia, and how bad it will be. They point to scary faces (Ashton, Power), puff out their cheeks for importance, but to us nothing.
  6. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 April 19 2014 07: 08
    +5
    from the Don.
    It remains to add that these days 200 is being celebrated as the entry into Napoleon Paris of allied forces led by Alexander I. This means that sooner or later, but Russia always returned to Europe ...
    What was the rest of verbiage? what
  7. domokl
    domokl April 19 2014 07: 09
    +6
    Yeah ... We always come back just because someone needs to take away the fighting Europeans ... They’re like children, today they’re friends, and tomorrow they’re scoops from each other in the sandbox fellow
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  9. NIVH
    NIVH April 19 2014 07: 11
    +3
    Faced with the monolithic anti-Russian “position of Europe”, Russia for many years turned south and east, while achieving impressive success.


    I agree that in the East we will gain more than lose. But Europe will lose what there is nothing to replace.
  10. mamont5
    mamont5 April 19 2014 07: 13
    +2
    "It remains to add that these days marks the 200th anniversary of the entry into Napoleonic Paris of the allied troops led by Alexander I. This means that sooner or later, but Russia has always returned to Europe ..."

    Exactly. It is not for Europe to forget that Russia has already been to Europe and can always return there. And a pampered Europe is unlikely to counterbalance.

    "- No, today in Europe and the United States, as Besson put it," contempt, disgust and hatred "for Russia reigns, and from this one can cook the coolest porridge."

    But today, Russia is united as never before and we are not used to getting out of the most missing situations.
    1. edge
      edge April 19 2014 16: 11
      0
      Quote: mamont5
      today in Europe and the United States, as Besson put it, there is "contempt, disgust and hatred" for Russia, and from this one can cook the coolest porridge. "

      on any European porridge we have a scoop of non-children's sizes in store.
  11. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch April 19 2014 07: 14
    +2
    "We need to deal with the Russians like a man" ...

    No, well, clowns are just clinical. And is this what drives it? Truly, all grandmasters yawn more than one piece.
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  13. dobrik10
    dobrik10 April 19 2014 07: 15
    +5
    I'm certainly not a cool political scientist, but in what manner does this comrade see the execution of the first scenario?
    In the light of recent events both in Russia and abroad, our people, on the contrary, have become more united around Putin and others like him and to shake and even more so to change mattresses and Europe in our power too tough.
    Of course, we also have rats, but they where they should be in dark corners and basements and poison them now more mercilessly than ever.
  14. Name
    Name April 19 2014 07: 15
    +4
    Entot forgot that the GDP has 70 percent of the population and more those who support it, as regards Foreign Policy.
    And about all the "sanctions" for Euro-Americans, only one thing is inadequate and a team from KASCHENKO is needed ... There they belong.
  15. ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 April 19 2014 07: 17
    +19
    I am ready to imagine that the Russian leadership in this case will turn 180 degrees
    I repeat. Vladimir Vladimirovich! If you decide to leave the big eight, do not forget the golden rule! When leaving, turn off the light and turn off the gas ..
    1. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch April 19 2014 09: 39
      +5
      And our ensign said: "When you leave, extinguish everyone!"
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  16. Black
    Black April 19 2014 07: 24
    +3
    Are you going to attack us according to the first option? (And the offended Lithuanians will go to the forefront not childishly?) Will Berezina cross the straight lines in orderly rows?
    It is not new. The "collective Putin", and after the Crimea, the "collective" has grown to the nation, is waiting.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru April 19 2014 07: 43
      0
      Quote: Chen
      offended not childish Lithuanians go at the forefront?) will cross the Berezina

      Berezina (Belorussian. Barezіna) - a river in Belarus, the right tributary of the Dnieper. The longest river that is on its entire course is located in Belarus.
      1. AVIATOR36662
        AVIATOR36662 April 19 2014 08: 16
        +2
        Probably, the comrade emphasized Berezina as a reminder of Napoleon’s flight from the Russian troops, in a very dry time and with very huge losses. A wonderful reminder. And the times are now historical, the battle for Russia.
      2. igordok
        igordok April 19 2014 08: 52
        +5
        Quote: 11111mail.ru
        Berezina (Belorussian. Barezіna) - a river in Belarus, the right tributary of the Dnieper. The longest river, which is located throughout its entire course in Belarus.

        bérézina is a French word.
        bérézina (fr) - disaster.
        1. andj61
          andj61 April 19 2014 09: 44
          +2
          So it became French after the defeat on the Berezina, when Napoleon barely managed to get out, and without an army. From those times, we still have the word "trash" - a horse (the French ate fallen horses), "a skier" - sher ami - something like my dear (ragged, hungry French people used this to address everyone, asking for food), etc. Moreover, the French "bistro" - from the Cossacks hurrying to have a bite in Paris.
          It's time to update the vocabulary of geyropov.
          1. 11111mail.ru
            11111mail.ru April 19 2014 22: 23
            -1
            Quote: andj61
            the word "trash" - a horse (the French ate fallen horses),

            With all due respect to you, I will allow myself to disagree with you, because, not speaking French, I have the knowledge that "Chevalier" is a spoiled "cavalier" (horseman, nobleman)
            1. 11111mail.ru
              11111mail.ru April 20 2014 01: 14
              0
              Quote: 11111mail.ru
              "chevalier" is a spoiled "cavalier" (horseman, nobleman)

              Well, minusyars, you are wrong "caballero", "cavalier", "chevalier", "trash" ... No guys, envy chokes you, because: it’s not ma spa sis zhur (this is about you). Christ is Risen! 01.09._20.04.2014. Forgive me, but I forgive all of you, even the Apillon & Banshee moderators.
        2. Spnsr
          Spnsr April 19 2014 16: 10
          0
          Quote: igordok
          Quote: 11111mail.ru
          Berezina (Belorussian. Barezіna) - a river in Belarus, the right tributary of the Dnieper. The longest river, which is located throughout its entire course in Belarus.

          bérézina is a French word.
          bérézina (fr) - disaster.

          this French word, became French, and to designate a catastrophe, after the French, fleeing from Russia, in 1812, encountered the Berezina River on their way
  17. slovak007
    slovak007 April 19 2014 07: 26
    +1
    The first strategy is broadly witty and bitingly laid out in an article by French writer Patrick Besson, “Why Russia needs to declare war”

    You’ll break your teeth !!!
  18. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf April 19 2014 07: 27
    +1
    Russia has always returned to Europe ...

    100% !!!
    We sometimes remember that we forgot something!
  19. Counter
    Counter April 19 2014 07: 28
    +3
    Strange rhetoric of the article. What does it mean to attack Russia? Arrange a massive attack on our Strategic Missile Forces, declare war on us? And then arrange an infantry march along the roads of Russia? What did this Latvian even want to say? We probably should have read this and be scared! Well try it! - what else can you answer ?! The most possible here is not the "first", but the "third" option: no war, no peace. And this is already underway.
  20. sledgehammer102
    sledgehammer102 April 19 2014 07: 30
    +1
    It remains to add that these days 200 is being celebrated as the entry into Napoleon Paris of allied forces led by Alexander I. This means that sooner or later, but Russia always returned to Europe ...


    This must always be remembered in Brussels and in Paris and in Washington.
  21. Dyatko Nebatko
    Dyatko Nebatko April 19 2014 07: 39
    +2
    It remains to add that these days 200 is being celebrated as the entry into Napoleon Paris of allied forces led by Alexander I. This means that sooner or later, but Russia always returned to Europe ...
    Ha! I always said that once in a hundred years, for prevention, the boot of a Russian soldier should trample the flowerbeds of Berlin and Paris! And to stay there for 20 years, you no longer need to remember yourself that we are the most peace-loving people on Earth!
  22. anfil
    anfil April 19 2014 07: 45
    0
    Quote: ammunition
    Here is such info -
    http://vlad-dolohov.livejournal.com/850120.html
    If this is so, then Janis Urbanovich calms himself by fairy tales. laughing

    Liquid for this Yanukovych, there is no core in it.
    1. Graph
      Graph April 19 2014 09: 00
      0
      There is no core in it, it’s true, but how scarecrow will fit perfectly! tongue
  23. individual
    individual April 19 2014 07: 50
    0
    “The Lithuanians seem to be more offended by“ Putin's Russia ”than others."

    Hmm.
    What is Lithuania?
    - Zilch having neither weight nor volume.
    But what is the United States and Germany - these are players who conduct a chorus of votes against Russia.
    Very often the singers sing against themselves, but there's nothing to be done about it - the sneak costs. And dreams.
    What if they are cuddled and allowed to bite a piece of dollar / euro larger than a silent neighbor.
  24. Magadan
    Magadan April 19 2014 07: 51
    0
    Today in Europe and the USA, as Besson put it, “contempt, disgust and hatred” towards Russia reigns, and from this you can cook the coolest porridge.
    ____________________________________________________________________

    Nonsense. Here is a translation of an article by one American "Have Putin been lured into a trap"
    http://www.warandpeace.ru/ru/analysis/view/89756/
    original: http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/04/15/is-putin-being-lured-into-a-trap/

    The author worries about 4's third-party agreements on Ukraine and believes that Putin should have further bent a hard line against the lying west and the Nazi junta in Ukraine.
    From my readings of American forums, I see that the main Western media and politicians are tough against Russia, but ordinary people are increasingly in favor and increasingly question the reliability of their media. Which means in the near future, the strong loss of all sorts of CNN and other shellon.
  25. YRAL59
    YRAL59 April 19 2014 08: 00
    +2
    I was in Poland in 2010, near Lublin, unloaded in a village. I brought a wooden house, locals with children came to look at us, they didn’t see Russians from the war. Simple people are good people.
  26. Humpty
    Humpty April 19 2014 08: 05
    +1
    After the Russian army entered Paris in 1814, military spending was sharply increased in Australia. According to the Australians, since in Europe there is no one else to fight with the Russians, the Russian attack on Australia seemed to them inevitable.
  27. sv68
    sv68 April 19 2014 08: 08
    +5
    everything will remain as it is, with one exception, any country in the world, before speaking to Russia, will think about whether this side of the territory has a territory once owned by Russians
  28. SPACE
    SPACE April 19 2014 08: 10
    0
    but the maximum program is only one: Russia's radical “downsizing”

    It has always been obvious, declaring peace, they keep this stone in the bosom, for centuries and for a long time nothing has changed in their intentions, this is their ultimate goal. Well, why was it necessary to disarm, to make concessions to them in a humiliating attempt to please the West, in the naive hope of becoming Europeans. Their desire to become hegemons on the planet, to live off the rest of the world and to determine the fate of peoples only by their crappy democratic minds, came up against ogroohomny Russia ... And every time throughout history, the stupidest part of the next new generation, forgetting the experience of their ancestors, steps on one and the same rake, for them, a personal priest in the heat, more expensive than the future of descendants and the integrity of the country, such a mentality can lead to the same patchwork card as in Europe ...
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru April 19 2014 22: 30
      0
      Quote: SPACE
      for them, a personal priest is warm, more expensive than the future of posterity and the integrity of the country, such a mentality can lead to the same patchwork card as in Europe ...

      You need to understand this about "our" nouveau richeth said? (Well, damn it, what a well-aimed word:
      NOVORISHSHO, something Russian is strange).
  29. Russian jacket
    Russian jacket April 19 2014 08: 13
    +1
    As they say, we were in Europe and specifically in Paris, Berlin, Vienna, and further on the list. And in Moscow, only Napoleon was burned, and then temporarily. So, when entering Europe, it’s necessary to stop being polite, and as described by Behemoth, the Geyrope army, but only send the blue ones out of the windows with the NATO standard in the back. And to send saboteurs to seize the leaders of NATO and the OSCE + various Hollande there in addition and to establish a wonderful zoo ... in the Arctic Circle. And to sell tickets to the remaining European residents forcibly. am
  30. Million
    Million April 19 2014 08: 27
    +1
    his physiognomy seemed to be perceived at the sight of the Russians ..
  31. nahalenok911
    nahalenok911 April 19 2014 08: 31
    +1
    "Today in Europe and the United States, as Besson put it, there is" contempt, disgust and hatred "for Russia"

    Rejoice, gentlemen! From Russia it is mutual! You make such porridge that you choke! We are unpretentious ... U_R_R_O_D_Y!
  32. kodxnumx
    kodxnumx April 19 2014 08: 32
    +1
    but whatever they say there they are Russian, we won’t roll cotton wool and they know very well!
  33. pensioner
    pensioner April 19 2014 08: 55
    +2
    today in Europe and the United States, as Besson put it, "contempt, disgust and hatred" reigns over Russia
    Do not choke on them.
  34. kush62
    kush62 April 19 2014 08: 55
    +2
    The first strategy is broadly witty and bitingly presented in the article by French writer Patrick Besson, “Why Russia needs to declare war”: the time has come to complete the work begun by Napoleon and Hitler, “you need to take Moscow because it is now possible.”

    Have you decided to create a suicide club?
  35. surovts.valery
    surovts.valery April 19 2014 09: 08
    0
    This Balts speaks on behalf of Europe, as if he were this very Europe. Nobody needs them (Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia) for hr ... n, let them teach history better. In 1940, the Red Army was joyfully greeted with flowers, in 1941 - by the German, in 1944-45, again by the Red. This is their fate, to lie under someone. So they live in fear that they will have to lie down again. But they would have taken an example from the Finns, who, after they got rid of the Russians, quickly forgot about "Great Finland to the Urals", live quietly and do not blather towards their big neighbor.
    1. koshh
      koshh April 19 2014 09: 35
      0
      Let me remind you that grandfather Lenin gave them independence. They believe that they lived well and independently from the 18th to the 39th.
  36. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 April 19 2014 09: 10
    0
    But they are afraid, they are afraid of us. They are already shaking and do not know what will happen next and what to do. drinks
  37. Stinger
    Stinger April 19 2014 09: 13
    0
    The fourth option - a normal relationship is not even considered. Therefore, we must stop flirting with them, and firmly and uncompromisingly defend our interests. And it’s time for the Lithuanians to shut off oxygen. In the thesis
    “With Russians it’s always like that, so you can’t believe them, but you can only in the face.”
    the words "With the Russians" should be replaced with the words "With the West" and "stick their muzzle in their mug", as Vanka Zhukov said about the Baltic herring.
  38. tochila
    tochila April 19 2014 09: 21
    0
    I liked the last two sentences of the article !!!!))))))))
  39. koshh
    koshh April 19 2014 09: 29
    0
    Quote: "The information war continues, calls like:" We need to deal with the Russians like a man ""
    Who is this? Geyropa wants to deal with us manly? Absolutely there will be a peret.r.a.h.a.l.i.s. between them, s.h.a.r.t.y.s.
  40. Iskander_ru39
    Iskander_ru39 April 19 2014 09: 39
    +2
    It seems that Mr. Urbanovich, unlike most Lithuanians, knows a terrible secret:
    Shooting in russian
    Shooting at your people.
  41. SS68SS
    SS68SS April 19 2014 09: 56
    +2
    ... The chairman of the “Center for Accord” faction in the Sejm, Janis Urbanovich, in an interview with Vesti Today, drew three scenarios for the future of Russia ...


    Draw your future Mr. Urbanovich, but do not go into our future. Not your dog business. We will draw our own future, ourselves we will build and we ourselves will live. And you, geyroptsev, we will not draw anything. Bend without our help ...
  42. Arkan
    Arkan April 19 2014 10: 08
    0

    It remains to add that these days 200 is being celebrated as the entry into Napoleon Paris of allied forces led by Alexander I. This means that sooner or later, but Russia always returned to Europe ...


    We need to look at both the West and the East, constantly.
    1. edge
      edge April 19 2014 16: 43
      0
      Quote: Arkan
      These days marks the 200th anniversary of the entry into Napoleonic Paris of the allied forces led by Alexander I. This is to say that sooner or later, but Russia has always returned to Europe ...

      ..... there is a good old truth: there is no enemy worse than an unfinished one.
  43. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 19 2014 10: 13
    0
    Something with their memory became. It's time to remind. The best option for geyropeytsev is not to touch the bear, otherwise it will not seem enough.
  44. Sergey S.
    Sergey S. April 19 2014 10: 31
    0
    ... today in Europe and the USA ... "contempt, disgust and hatred" for Russia reigns, and from this you can cook the coolest porridge.

    This aversion is grown in their secret chemical and bacteriological laboratories.
    The infection was malignant and widespread. Along with Russophobia, patients have a brain atrophy, paranoid syndrome of fear, delusions of grandeur, grasping reflexes aggravate, all this is accompanied by poisonous diarrhea and fetid sweating ...

    The first attempts to create such weapons were made by the pope, Napoleon and Hitler. Their preparations were successfully tested on laboratory rats-employees and on citizens of France and Germany.
    However, according to unconfirmed reports, some malfunctions began in scientific and medical experiments. The blame for which the doctors placed on the Jews and the Communists. As a result, authorities were forced to start developing antidotes and medicines to treat this infection.

    The only effective remedy was the Napoleon-Hitler Order.
    Introducing this drug in all citizens of the country, Napoleon and Hitler began wars with Russia, as a result of which the infection in France and Germany was almost completely destroyed.

    Local treatment showed that the infection has a tendency to volatility, primarily infects the lazy, for years it can be in suspended animation in the heads of mentally ill individuals.
  45. Vorodis_vA
    Vorodis_vA April 19 2014 10: 37
    +2
    Why Russia is so uncertain turns to the East. The colossal potential can be drawn from Asia.
  46. Iskander_ru39
    Iskander_ru39 April 19 2014 10: 43
    +2
    Quote: Sergey S.

    This aversion is grown in their secret chemical and bacteriological laboratories.
    The infection was malignant and widespread. Along with Russophobia, patients have a brain atrophy, paranoid syndrome of fear, delusions of grandeur, grasping reflexes aggravate, all this is accompanied by poisonous diarrhea and fetid sweating ...

    The first attempts to create such weapons were made by the pope, Napoleon and Hitler.


    Right! Just do not forget dog krev:

    And who stole you?
    Rocky mountains fog, or the evil spirit of the Carpathians,
    Where is the eternal lyah in the caves of the ghouls
    cooked on a grass of lies a mystical broth.
    From century to century he watered the "enlightened"
    Set against brothers and sisters.
    He created rat kings
    And he brought them to the banners
  47. siberalt
    siberalt April 19 2014 10: 50
    +2
    Well, stupid! Not the reasoning of "husbands", but childish babble with fright. laughing

    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/915/kzoq8.jpg
  48. stranik72
    stranik72 April 19 2014 10: 54
    +4
    I think that with GDP now, too, everything is not normal with sleep. You can’t imagine a worse situation:
    1. The rearmament of the army is not completed.
    2. The recovery of the military-industrial complex has just begun.
    3. With modern weapons is very bad, especially in the field of electronic warfare, communications and further on the list.
    4. Even the equipment that is available in the troops has a low coefficient of readiness, especially in aviation and the Navy.
    5. The quality of human material, the main draft contingent in physical and educational terms, is 4 times weaker than the Soviet one.
    6. In Russia, there are a lot of people who do not consider the country as their homeland at all, and it’s not only among the elite that you take a closer look at your neighbors and your work colleagues are surprised, but what happened over the past 23 years, or think. that only in Ukraine surfaced.
    So, everything is not so "fun" with the "tank" biathlon on the Champs Elysees, the only thing we can do if the "X" hour begins is to die with the whole world, only when the enemies feel it, then and only then "hot" will not be. And then, and then one of the founders of the theory of Marxism, Engels, said as long as Russia exists, Europe (and by it he meant France, Germany, England) will not be the master. So, the fate of our Russians is such, for survival you need to be strong, otherwise they will be eaten.
    1. Cpa
      Cpa April 20 2014 00: 23
      0
      Do not panic stop just with electronic warfare, everything is in order with us, we will break control of everything, both a stranger and our own, and we will defeat unpredictability and personal heroism. wassat
  49. wax
    wax April 19 2014 11: 14
    0
    The dressing room of Russia was dreaming of a bath.
  50. Viktor163
    Viktor163 April 19 2014 11: 21
    +5
    What is the purpose of your visit to Germany?
    -Tourism.
    - Have you visited Germany before?
    Yes, I was in Berlin.
    -How did you get to Berlin?
    -On the T-34 ...