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No such nationality - Russians

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No such nationality - Russians



You did not ask yourself the question: why, according to the census of the population in Ukraine, are Russians in total - 17%, and Russian as the main language is used by more than half of the population? What kind of phenomenon is this - “Russian-speaking” Ukrainians?

As a child of three nationalities - Russian, Latvian and Ukrainian, who lived in Russia, Ukraine and Latvia, knowing all three languages, I will try to figure it out.

Ukrainian - per week

To begin with, I’ll reveal a secret: you can learn how to understand Ridnu Mova in a couple of weeks. It is enough to remember a hundred words that are very different from Russian. In Ukrainian, the same construction of phrases, the same cases, declensions, conjugations ... Just a certain number of words are distorted, but intuitive, and a small number of words are different. So they need to learn.

For example, who doesn’t understand the signage “Store Odyagu” or “Distance”? Just a little need to think about the word "vzuttya" to figure out what it is - "Shoes." But the word "Shkarpetki" will have to remember. I will not translate - "Google" to help you. It is more difficult not to confuse that “garbuz” is “pumpkin”, and “watermelon” is “kavun”.

I spent my childhood in the Kuban, where Ukrainian words are absorbed in between times. Pobach, poke, pochekay is such a light Little Russian flavor of Russia's southern provinces. When I arrived in Latvia at 12, for the first year I made my friends laugh with “yes you are sho?” And the characteristic letter “g”. Then - paralyzed.

The second secret: learning “classically” to speak Ukrainian is more difficult than English. What is the problem: the words of both languages ​​(adverbs) are in ONE dictionary, in one place in the head. To be able to "turn off" Ukrainism in Russian, and Russianism in Ukrainian, you need to train hard. Accidentally sticking a Russian word into English is impossible. And in Ukrainian - easily. And vice versa - Russian can be decorated with Ukrainism in almost any quantity.

How patsak from chatlanina different

The paradox of the country called "Ukraine": with the exception of the blue blood of the Westerners, everyone speaks Russian. Not in the sense that they can speak, but it is SPEAKING - in the family, at work, in the company. And they only switch to Ukrainian when it is NECESSARY.

Such a Kiev party is sitting, according to the passport, all are “Ukrainians”, all surnames end in “-ko” or “-yuk”, all are “orange” and svidomye (never Donetsk cattle!), And among themselves - in Russian . I sometimes am kidding: “Well, you, shanovni, do you crush me with Katsapsk mine? Hiba, aren't you Ukrainians? ”-“ Ukrainians, - they answer, - but it’s more convenient for us ”...

In the east of Ukraine, where you can’t even hear the Ukrainian language, where the whole Ukrainian “identity” is the famous fricative “ge”, ask who they are by nationality, they will proudly say “Ukrainians!”. But they don’t even know Ukrainian ... Now even the special term "Russian-speaking Ukrainians" has appeared. Schob you pіdnyalo that gepnulo!

Boys, what are you - "Ukrainians", if - Russian-speaking? It turns out, as in the immortal film “Kin-dza-dza” - how does a patzak differ from chatlanin ”:“ Is this nationality? ”-“ No! ”-“ Biological factor? ”-“ No! ”-“ Persons from other planets? ” - “No!” - “What then?” - “You, a violinist - are color blind? Can you tell the difference between green and orange? ”

How can one distinguish a “Russian-language chatlanin” from a simple Russian “patzak” (katsap)? Only on the "orange point". Truly brilliant Danelia: 30 years ago he even guessed the color of modern chatlan - ORANGE!

Where in Ukraine so many Ukrainians?

The American Gallup Institute in 2008 conducted a survey in which residents of Ukraine were asked to fill out a questionnaire. The blanks were in two languages ​​- Russian and Ukrainian. You will laugh - 83% of the polled citizens of Ukraine chose a questionnaire in RUSSIAN. That is all - on the contrary. Russian on the passport are listed only 17%, and Russian by language were (ts-s-s ...) - 83%. Burned up!

The English have a comic "duck test" ("duck-test"): "If something quacks like a duck, swims like a duck and looks like a duck, then it probably is a duck." I interpret to my Kiev friends that they look like Russians, behave like Russians and quack like Russians ... They are angry and threaten to stuff their faces.

However, such enhanced "non-Russian" is characteristic not only of "Russian-speaking Ukrainians." In the Kuban, I, a visitor, passed “Moskal”, and all the locals were “Cossacks”! In Siberia, too, live thoroughbred "Siberians", and not some kind of "Russian lapotniki." I heard that they even had the idea to introduce their own special nationality - “Siberian”.

What to go far? If such a national “ma-askwich” had appeared, it would immediately have moved into the 25 millions of the Russian population (the Padmask-dwellers, too). Millions would have enrolled in St. Petersburg seven, they have their own cockroaches ... I'm afraid that if they started introducing additional nationalities in Russia, the Russians would remain only in the Crimea (so that they would not pass to Ukraine again), in my Baltics (to annoy the Latvians ), and even on Brighton (these do not deceive each other).

Search for ten differences

But so far only “Russian-speaking Ukrainians” have been brought along with special nationality. And what to do with it, they still do not know. President Kuchma 10 years wrote a book called "Ukraine - not Russia." I read it, laughed for a long time. The whole book is dedicated to finding differences between Ukrainians and Russians. 560 pages of painful searches!

And what pearls are there: “Russians live more“ by concepts ”, while Ukrainians mostly prefer law and order ...” The book was published 10 years ago, and all these years Ukrainians showed the world how they “prefer law and order”. Showed, schob I shove! But the funny thing is: at the presentation of the book, Kuchma admitted that he wrote in Russian, because he does not know Ukrainian ... Um, just one Russian Ukrainian Ukraine!

Recently, the Ukrainian Internet blew up the good news: scientists have found that Russians have more Finno-Ugric and Tatar haplogroups in their genes than Ukrainians. The difference was in small percentages, but what a joy! Muscovites, it turns out, a rotten cross between Tatars and Finns, and we are real Slavs! Found the same difference!

I thought ... I listened to my own identity for a long time, looked into the mirror ... A tall, slender man in the prime of his life, smart, witty, educated. Personally, I like myself. And the children I failed, all three. I swear, well, unlike the Ukrainians, some “haplogroups” do not hover me, even if there is a Papuan gene to be found.

Speaking of children. In the middle of 90-x registered in the registry office of the people boy. Aunty asks: “What nationality will we indicate?” I begin to reason (speak Latvian): “On 1 / 4 he is Latvian, on 1 / 8 - Russian, on 1 / 8 - Ukrainian, on 1 / 8 - Belarusian ... "Then follow the difficult fractions, in which Poles, Tatars, possible Jews participate (as without them?) ... And I solemnly download:" And on 1 / 64 - French! "(My wife really great-great-grandfather was a Frenchman who stuck 1812 in the year near Smolensk and got accustomed.) Aunty laughs: "This is a purebred Russian!"


Do you want to be Russian - be it

Now from my friends from the east of Ukraine I hear bitter complaints: why does Russia not support us, does not help? Crimea supported, to itself took, and we for it that - strangers?

The guys, but the Crimeans didn’t show off, they didn’t record themselves into “Russian-speaking Ukrainians”. After all, everyone has their own choice. Want to be Ukrainians-take the current Kiev government. Real Ukrainians from Galicia now command there. For them, you are not Ukrainians at all, and they will never accept you into the Ukrainians, whatever you write down in your passports. You are for them - Katsaps in life.

So, I would recommend not digging into “haplogroups”, not looking for exactly where “Ukraine is not Russia”, not showing off with a special identity, but signing up for normal Russians. This is not a shame. Moreover, the “Russians” are not a nationality at all. The word “Russian” is not a noun, but an adjective, not “who?”, But “what?”. That people is strong, and that takes all who came to him.

And it has been observed: as soon as any trouble, war, massacre, genocide begins in the world, the number of Russians abruptly arrives. Here and now, it seems, will arrive.
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  1. mamont5
    mamont5 April 19 2014 07: 02
    +81
    "The paradox of a country called Ukraine: with the exception of the blue-blooded Westerners, everyone speaks Russian."

    And another paradox is that in the West they also speak not Ukrainian. There of languages ​​such a compote is wrapped. This is a mixture of Ukrainian-Russian with Polish and interspersed (in some areas) with Hungarian or German words.

    "Auntie laughs:" This is a purebred Russian! "
    Everything is correct, for RUSSIAN is not blood and not language. RUSSIAN is a state of mind.
    1. Sunjar
      Sunjar April 19 2014 07: 33
      +80
      Dear author, don't worry. About the Finnish-Ugric genes is a lie. And in serious scientific circles this issue has not been discussed for a long time, so that among geneticists they do not show themselves as a layman, because they all know perfectly well that the so-called gene of "rksness" is R1a1 (if I am not mistaken). And this gene is much older than the Finnish, and indeed any European. Therefore, from the Finno-Ugric we could not start our own kind.

      It is also interesting that from the Urals to Poland, scientists from the USA (mind you not English scientists) took DNA samples from 10000 people and it turned out that these people have almost no extraneous gene impurities. This is despite the fact that the so-called Tatar-Mongol yoke ruled in Russia for 300 years, and many claimed that during these 300 years there was such incest that there were no purebred Russians. But no, the Yankees were convinced of the opposite.


      Quote: mamont5
      RUSSIAN is a state of mind


      True remark. Being Russian means living in good conscience, justice, respecting the elders, teaching the younger ones, welcoming guests, mercilessly destroying enemies and traitors, but forgiving those who have stumbled.

      Many Russians by blood today behave completely opposite to the Russian spirit, and many non-Russians (Tatars, Chuvashs, Chukchi, etc.) are, in conscience and spirit, truly Russian People. People with a capital letter.
      1. sledgehammer102
        sledgehammer102 April 19 2014 07: 47
        +42
        The article is awesome !!!!! The author is a huge plus! Everything is simple, clear and with meaning, well, and at the level of jokes)
        I especially liked the conclusion:

        Moreover, the “Russians” are not nationality at all. The word "Russian" is not a noun, but an adjective, not "who?", But "which?" That is why this people is strong because it accepts all who come to it.


        Another Bashkir writer Mustay Karim wrote "I'm not Russian, but Russian ...", I think, I racked my brains for a long time, but I never figured out how to write a phrase "I'm not a Slav, but Russian" in a less clumsy form for the work, but nothing is inserted there, for the people of Russia are many-sided and all its diversity is contained in the word "Russian", but some especially stubborn ones try to separate it separately into a separate ethnos and a separate nation ... Goofs ...
        1. Normal
          Normal April 19 2014 09: 00
          +24
          Quote: sledgehammer102
          ..... some especially stubborn are trying to separate it separately into a separate ethnic group and a separate nation ... Dunce ...

          Some especially stubborn goofs, especially from among the especially gifted pro-government ones, six months ago, at the word "Russian", went into hysterics and squealed with foam on their lips; "foshizdy !!!, Natsiks !!!! There are no Russians! There are only one rrrrossiani !!!"
          The trend has changed (How else? After all, as it turned out in the Crimea, there are no rrrossians, namely RUSSIANS). Now it has become politically advantageous for the authorities to recognize the obvious, but previously completely unimaginable for them - there are Russians, and only on the basis of Russianness is it possible to collect power. And then, of course, the stubborn pro-government officials immediately "changed their shoes."
          Applause....
          1. wow
            wow April 19 2014 11: 11
            +33
            I have a colleague - a Tatar, my name is Oleg Shamilyevich (the surname is completely Tatar). They served together for a long time, which is called a pud of salt, ate together. The man is excellent. Recently, he was on vacation in Serbia. He says ... do you know how Russians treat us very well ...!? Olezhek, I say, you're actually from the Tatars. So what, he answers, it’s all the same, after all, Russian. Like this.
            1. Horde
              Horde April 19 2014 11: 28
              +13
              Quote: yo-mine
              He says ... do you know how Russians treat us very well ...!? Olezhek, I say, you're actually from the Tatars. So what, he answers, it’s all the same, after all, Russian. Like this.


              the history of Russia istolgan intentionally Tatars is an artificially invented people, it is POVOLZH BULGARIANS a Slavic tribe speaking Turkic and having religion Islam. So everything is right for your friend told you ...
              1. Suvorov
                Suvorov April 19 2014 12: 16
                +7
                Quote: Horde
                the history of Russia istolgan intentionally Tatars-artificially invented people, it is the Volga BULGARIANS Slavic tribe speaking Turkic


                Nevertheless, the state of Tatarstan exists, albeit within Russia, for now ... It has its own Constitution and ideology, which isolates the Tatar people, giving them an advantage as a titular people, and not only declarative. The recent scandals with the reduction of the teaching of the Russian language in the republic with the simultaneous introduction of the compulsory Tatar language for all students, including Russians, is an example. Someone will say: they have the right, after all, they are a subject of the federation (which, by the way, was the only one who did not sign a federal treaty at one time and builds relations with the Federation on the basis of a separate treaty). But, in fact, this is an attempt to create a separate ethnic enclave within Russia, which can then be used as a special geopolitical factor. This "project" is not Russian, let alone Russian, about the same as the "Ukraine project", only within the country. And he is not alone. Friendship of peoples "in the Soviet way" in our country today is replaced by the search for differences, rewriting the history of peoples in their own way (local nationalists) and this is a very dangerous factor. And someone, after all, finances all these "national liberation movements".
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              3. sledgehammer102
                sledgehammer102 April 19 2014 12: 17
                +4
                Quote: Normal
                Some especially stubborn goofs, especially from among the especially gifted pro-government ones, six months ago, at the word "Russian", went into hysterics and squealed with foam on their lips; "foshizdy !!!, Natsiks !!!! There are no Russians! There are only one rrrrossiani !!!"


                When opposing some citizens of Russia and other citizens of Russia, the Nazis use the scheme "RUSSIAN - NERUSSIAN (Caucasian, Asian, Tatar, Buryat" and slogans are thrown "Russia for the Russians" - nonsense.

                People have adequate words Russian и Russian - synonyms, and then there are divisions into ethnic groups Slavic, Caucasian or Turkic.
                1. Suvorov
                  Suvorov April 19 2014 13: 32
                  +10
                  Quote: sledgehammer102
                  For people adequate, the words Russian and Russian are synonyms, and then there are divisions into Slavic, Caucasian or Turkic ethnic groups.


                  So it should be, if not for one "but". This would be correct if all the subjects of the federation in Russia had equal rights. In fact, this is not the case. Republics are subjects with an extended range of powers, that is, they are subjects of the first grade, and territories and regions - of the second. In essence, the “chosenness” of certain ethnic groups is emphasized. And those ethnic groups that do not have their own republics, why are they worse? The vicious practice of the "Leninist nationalities policy", when, in order to draw small peoples into the revolutionary movement, they were promised their "statehood", and the local national "proletariat", using the patronage of the "center", did not sit idly by. The task was to oppose local nationalities to the "Great Russian idea", which was personified by the "white movement". Now this "national field" has not yet been cleared of mines. Way out: to transform all subjects into equal subjects of the Federation - provinces. At the same time, the rights to national and cultural autonomy, culture, languages ​​should be preserved and developed, but the Constitution, anthem and flag in Russia should be the same. And then they reached the point of absurdity, already municipal districts were allowed to have their own flags.
                  1. Grandfather Victor
                    Grandfather Victor April 19 2014 13: 51
                    +1
                    I fully support!
                    1. sledgehammer102
                      sledgehammer102 April 19 2014 16: 43
                      0
                      Quote: Suvorov
                      it would be right if all the subjects of the federation in Russia had equal rights. In fact, this is not so. Republics are subjects with an expanded spectrum of powers, that is, they are subjects of the first grade, and territories and regions of the second.
                      ??

                      Ukraine is a unitary country, where all the subjects are equal, but it just doesn't work out artificially there somehow. So the DPR appeared there. By the way, the current Tatarstan and Bashkortostan received their so to speak unique rights, just during the period of the Yeltsin cookies, when there was devastation in the country, and at the very least lived in the republics. So, the Federal Districts are quite enough for manageability. But we are talking about Slavs, Tatars, Buryats and others under one nation "Russian". So, the conversation is from a completely different opera.
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                  2. Kurkin
                    Kurkin April 19 2014 14: 49
                    +3
                    You are absolutely right, to prevent the collapse of the country on a national basis, as happened with the USSR, it is necessary to get away from the national principle in the federal structure. By the way Zhirik talked about this for a long time and the appearance of the Federal Districts is one of the attempts. In general, by definition of the United Nations and the Russian Federation, Ukraine is a mono-ethnic Russian state, since the number of the titular nation in them exceeds 80%.
                  3. joum
                    joum April 21 2014 14: 07
                    -2
                    Are you sure that you are not confusing the concept of Russia and the Russian Federation? Regions are the components of one of the members of the federation. And why should they equate their rights with its other members? Yes, and why?
                2. Normal
                  Normal April 20 2014 11: 26
                  +2
                  Quote: sledgehammer102
                  the Nazis use the scheme "RUSSIAN - NERUSSIAN

                  Get on already. According to the latest trends, there are no Natsiks among Russians. Natsik is now exclusively in the West and in Kiev.

                  Quote: sledgehammer102
                  throw "Russia for Russians"


                  Well, yes, it would be much more pleasant for you if all Russians thought that Russia was NOT for Russians. For Caucasians, migrants from Central Asia, national minorities, but not for Russians.
                  Quote: sledgehammer102
                  Russia is a multinational country

                  According to the percentage of Russians in the general population, Russia is a MONO-national country with places of compact residence of national minorities, which, incidentally, are not discriminated against throughout Russia, which cannot be said about Russians who are oppressed in every way in national republics, if not state, household level.
                  And no need here
                  tongue out such heresy
                  about multinational Russia by the fact that this is
                  rave.
                  inflamed Nazmen’s imagination.
                  Quote: sledgehammer102
                  In people adequate, the words Russian and Russian are synonyms,

                  Another statement for those who do not know how to assess the reality of idiots.
                  For people who are adequate, Russian is either nationality or belonging to the Russian world, ideological self-identification, and Russian is citizenship. Kadyrov is a Chechen and not Russian, although he is also a Russian, Depardieu is a Frenchman, and not Russian, although he is also a Russian citizen.
                  And the pro-government has nothing to do but hesitate after the "party line" and abandon those postulates for which they were tearing their throats yesterday.
                  Lag behind in life.
              4. Dilshat
                Dilshat April 19 2014 15: 04
                +3
                The ancestors of the Tatars are the Bulgars, Kipchaks, Suvars. In general, the Türks. Another thing in ancient times was mutually carried out by purely neighboring raids, taking wealth and beautiful women with them. In general (once again) scratch any Tatar and you will see a Russian.
                At present, at least 40% of mixed marriages in Tatarstan have been registered for more than a year.
              5. Petrol
                Petrol April 21 2014 10: 55
                0
                O dear Horde, shyro dyakuyu - no one is forgotten nothing is forgotten!
          2. Ascetic
            Ascetic April 19 2014 12: 31
            +6
            Quote: Normal
            Now it has become politically profitable for the authorities to admit the obvious, but previously completely unimaginable for it - there are Russians, and it is only on the basis of Russianness that the power can be gathered


            If you do not recognize this or simply hush up any state called Russia, it simply will not. We have such a movement - GCD is called. It seems that the goals are correct. Patriotic, but in terms of continuous mess. He even argued with them about the concepts of the national liberation movement or the national liberation, the concepts of the Russian people and nation, national leader, national elite (and not offshore aristocracy), national and state sovereignty.
            In general, I had already briefly touched on this topic. Until each patriot has a clear division of the concept of people and nation, they will defame us and deny the right of Russians to have their own sovereign state based on our traditional values, replacing it with some Russians in the style of the nations smelter.
            So they are yelling - chauvinism.fashizm.xenophobia. They create marginal "nationalist" movements designed to replace the nascent idea of ​​national and civilizational self-awareness of the people with flawed ideas of narrow limited nationalism as a thing in itself. Now there is no time, but perhaps I will find time to express my thoughts on this matter. I have already very much touched on these disputes with the NOD members, although this alone is already pleasing that such disputes have surfaced.
            Figuratively speaking, the Russian nation or the Russian idea is like the petals of a satellite antenna, revealing outward, outward to the world, in contrast to Nazism and nationalism of other Western interpretations, covering their national identity inside themselves.
            1. Kurkin
              Kurkin April 19 2014 14: 54
              +1
              NOD is a project of our liberals, hiding behind patriotic slogans. Its founder Evgeny Fedorov is a deputy of the State Duma from the EdRo party. This deputy was a member of the State Duma committee on economics and a working group on Russia's entry into the WTO even before he founded the GCD. And his rhetoric was purely liberal, and it was he who actively lobbied in the Duma the idea of ​​signing a protocol on Russia's accession to the WTO.
            2. Dilshat
              Dilshat April 19 2014 15: 34
              +3
              Be sure to take the time. You are not savvy, however, when you first listened to Fedorov, I liked it very much. But I was embarrassed and painfully saying it right. I looked at the biography and voila-man of Chubais on the internet. I don’t always have education and knowledge to understand what is actually They’re trying to deceive you, to turn aside. By the way, he branded the WTO in his commercials. He agreed that the CIA transmitted songs to Vikor Tsoi. You have to intuitively reach. But intuition can fail.
            3. Normal
              Normal April 20 2014 11: 32
              0
              Quote: Ascetic
              If you do not recognize this or simply hush up any state called Russia, it simply will not.

              Quote: Ascetic
              Until each patriot has a clear division of the concept of people and nation, they will defame us and deny the right of Russians to have their own sovereign state based on our traditional values, replacing it with some Russians in the style of the nations smelter.

              Quote: Ascetic
              So they are yelling - chauvinism.fashizm.xenophobia. They create marginal "nationalist" movements designed to replace the nascent idea of ​​national and civilizational self-awareness of the people with flawed ideas of narrow limited nationalism as a thing in itself.


              Well, from whom I did not expect such statements. Pleasantly surprised. good drinks
          3. 225chay
            225chay April 19 2014 14: 52
            +4
            Quote: Normal
            Now it has become politically beneficial for the authorities to admit the obvious, but previously completely unimaginable for it - there are Russians, and it is only on the basis of Russianness that the powers can be gathered.


            That's it! The authorities are now beneficial to pedal the Russian theme ... When unity is needed and the struggle against an external threat is remembered about the Russians.
        2. iConst
          iConst April 19 2014 11: 30
          +4
          Quote: sledgehammer102
          The article is awesome !!!!! The author is a huge plus! Everything is simple, clear and with meaning, well, and at the level of jokes)

          Join.
          And, it seems to me, the author implicitly indicated the key reason for what is happening with the phrase
          Quote: author
          ... President Kuchma has been writing a book for 10 years entitled "Ukraine is not Russia." I read it, laughed for a long time. The whole book is devoted to the search for differences between Ukrainians and Russians. 560 pages of agonizing searches! ...

          I’ll lose respect for myself with a bunch of genetically pathological losers, renegades, from whose ranks no poets, no scientists, no musicians ... but types like Bender came out.

          This is exactly reminiscent of the psychology and behavior of a loser, who is both healthy and outwardly decent and seems to have everything. But pathological idler. He lives with his mother in Khrushchev, has no sensible friends, we despise colleagues.
          And he dreams, "now, if he had a million rubles ... or a cool car ..., or ..., or ..., or ... Then life would get better.
          But life goes on, a million do not roll on the road, no one gives a wheelbarrow ...
          And then the search for the guilty begins: the mother of millions did not save up, he can’t test him for the director of a cool company, his relatives are all UG ..., cousin - a successful businessman will not share a lemon-or-other ... etc. etc....

          But at the same time, he gravitates to the environment in which they drive around on prestigious foreign cars, spend frequent evenings in expensive beer bars, dress so that one shoe stands like his entire wardrobe.
          But he doesn’t enter there - the bumble license does not allow it. And he despises and distances himself among people like himself in terms of position and income.
          As a result, he is a notorious marginal.

          And the funny thing is - give him a million and a car and an apartment - nothing good will come of it. He will not take root in that environment and will be expelled.

          This is the same thing, in my opinion, is observed among a handful of "real" Ukrainians, and they, in fact, sick in the head, plant these ideas on the rest of the completely self-sufficient population.
          They are looking for an external enemy to which they can blame all their own failures. They deify killers and the same mentally handicapped "leaders" mentioned above.

          And they are not alone: ​​there are still restless Poles, the Balts, plus a couple of the poor.
          1. andrewvlg
            andrewvlg April 19 2014 13: 41
            +3
            Quote: iConst
            This is exactly reminiscent of the psychology and behavior of a loser, who is both healthy and outwardly decent and seems to have everything. But pathological idler.

            You, in my opinion, are biased towards our population. In Russia, we have more than half of the country such "losers", as you put it. Highly paid work, expensive cars, etc. can afford no more than 15-30 percent of the population. The rest of the "losers" work hard for a small fee.
            But this does not mean at all that all are completely marginalized and rebels. They just live modestly (poorly).
            By the way, in the "rich" countries less than 40 percent of the population belongs to the middle class of the "successful". In your opinion, if a school teacher somewhere in the outback lives from hand to mouth and
            "We despise" the children of "rich oilmen", so should he be put on a par with the Ukrainian marginalized?
            A famous example is the mathematician Perelman, who refused a million bonuses. Apparently, he understood in advance that:
            And the funny thing is - give him a million and a car and an apartment - nothing good will come of it. He will not take root in that environment and will be expelled.
            1. iConst
              iConst April 19 2014 14: 51
              +1
              Quote: andrewvlg
              You, in my opinion, are biased towards our population. In Russia, as you put it, more than half of the country has such "losers".
              ...

              You did not see my vector - re-read it again.
              If more than half of the country is sitting at home and "sulking" at the whole world around - then, yes!
              But I do not see it.

              Me and my associates do not have crazy incomes. Roll over the hill - put off for almost a year.
              But no one considers himself a failure. All cheerful people.

              A person has a concept of "quality" of life and "quantity" of life.
              Quality is a combination of physiological and emotional state.
              Quantity is the level of wealth.
              And there is absolutely no direct dependence of the first on the second.

              I have described only one type - the "poor" loser. There are also "rich" losers.

              I won’t chew - I hope you’ll figure it out yourself now ...
              1. andrewvlg
                andrewvlg April 19 2014 15: 10
                0
                Quote: iConst
                I won’t chew - I hope you’ll figure it out yourself now ...

                I apologize if I misunderstood you. Please be clear about your thoughts. Otherwise, you might think that for you the criteria of a "loser" are poverty, "housing problem" and "attitude of others".
                Thank you for the clarification.
                Yours faithfully, hi
                1. iConst
                  iConst April 19 2014 15: 36
                  0
                  Quote: andrewvlg
                  Quote: iConst
                  I won’t chew - I hope you’ll figure it out yourself now ...

                  I apologize if I misunderstood you. Please be clear about your thoughts. Otherwise, you might think that for you the criteria of a "loser" are poverty, "housing problem" and "attitude of others".
                  Thank you for the clarification.
                  Yours faithfully, hi

                  I expressed my thought very clearly: loss of self-respect. And everything else is an attempt to bring the basis for the substantiation of one's own laziness.
                  You just need to read carefully. Good luck ...
      2. Morgan
        Morgan April 19 2014 11: 31
        +6
        The progress lies in the fact that earlier to determine the nation (race) skulls were measured, and now they use the polymerase chain reaction. But! The definition of one's own identity DOES NOT DEPEND ON BIOLOGICAL FACTORS, ONLY ON MORAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL. My friend is Armenian, Armenian is his native language, but he identifies himself as "Russian with Armenian roots"! Russian is really an adjective synonymous for us with the word OUR. And the shape of the nose or the emphasis on the Russianness does not affect! Author, thanks !!!!!!!!!
      3. avg
        avg April 19 2014 11: 48
        +10
        Quote: Sunjar
        Many Russians by blood today behave completely opposite to the Russian spirit, and many non-Russians (Tatars, Chuvashs, Chukchi, etc.) are, in conscience and spirit, truly Russian People.

        It was in Africa. I had a co-worker - a Georgian, and he explained to all the natives that he was not Russian, namely the Georgians, they even teased him about this. Once we were “strongly pressed” and we had a small meeting on the issue of a breakthrough. When it was Vaso’s turn to speak, he blurted out: “And right ahead we’ll go where they don’t wait, we’ll break through what we are, not Russians! "
      4. mirag2
        mirag2 April 19 2014 12: 42
        +3
        Parking "Kostenki":
        The Kostenkov-Streletsky archaeological culture is the oldest culture of the complex of Paleolithic sites of Kostenki in the district of Voronezh region.
        Age: 30 - 32 thousand years.
      5. Zhaman-Urus
        Zhaman-Urus April 19 2014 12: 52
        +12
        You do not touch the Fino-Ugrians))) My mother is a pure Mordovian (pure Fino-Ugrians) and my wife is 1/8 Mordovian, 1/8 Estonian, XNUMX/XNUMX Latvian. Naturally, we and our two children are pure Russians! PS This morning he took his son to school, he told me "I'm not Russian" That is, I say? "Well, that is, not a Russian" - answers. I say even though you live in Nigeria even in the Arctic, you are Russian! Thank God it is not a sin in Kazakhstan yet ...
        1. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I April 19 2014 14: 45
          +6
          "I will be a creep," but I LIKED THIS ARTICLE EARLY! Because the conclusions of the author of the article are my conclusions, which I have been affirming for more than a dozen years! RUSSIAN IS A STATE OF THE SOUL! -And not a nationality (maybe)! Everywhere in the world nationality is a noun, and only "Russian" is an adjective. A German, a Frenchman, a Greek came to serve in Russia; in the course of time he became a Russian German, French, Greek. Further in time: Russian, Russian, Russian. Do you know that when the Polovtsy, Pechenegs, Khazars, Tatars, Greeks entered the "Russian" service, then in gratitude for their successful service they were awarded not only money, estates, titles of nobility, but also the title "Russian"? After all, many of the "elite" noble (Russian!) Surnames: Gagarins, Trubetskoy had foreigners in their ancestors ("guest workers" in modern terminology is a blessing that there were few of them then, in contrast to the present time). Current migrants are a problem, an evil for Russia because there are too many of them to adapt them to the Russian reality, and they don’t want that. And I don’t want Russia to become New Chuchmekistan!
          1. radar1967
            radar1967 April 19 2014 15: 06
            +2
            I agree, Russia is not a country, it is a civilization.
      6. Tartary
        Tartary April 19 2014 12: 52
        0
        Quote: Sunjar
        It is also interesting that from the Urals to Poland, scientists from the USA (mind you not English scientists) took DNA samples from 10000 people and it turned out that these people have almost no extraneous gene impurities. This is despite the fact that the so-called Tatar-Mongol yoke ruled in Russia for 300 years, and many claimed that during these 300 years there was such incest that there were no purebred Russians. But no, the Yankees were convinced of the opposite.

        And it’s possible that everything is much simpler -
        If you impose the current situation with Ukraine on the time of the so-called "Mongol-Tatar yoke", then everything will turn out to be similar to the extreme - Russia today is Tatars and MOGOLS of those distant times ...))) And the payment for gas by Kiev can be presented as a tribute. ))) lol
        1. grandfather_Kostya
          grandfather_Kostya April 19 2014 23: 23
          0
          Tatar-Mongols. it’s just the Western European medieval name of the Russian Cossacks who completely defeated all European armies during the formation of the Great (in the Western European Mongolian) empire. Modern Mongols have nothing to do with this army! Hence, there is no Mongoloid impurity in Russian genes.
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker April 20 2014 01: 49
            +2
            Quote: grandfather_Kostya
            Tatar-Mongols. it’s just the Western European medieval name of the Russian Cossacks who completely defeated all European armies during the formation of the Great (in the Western European Mongolian) empire.

            Well, the Horde ... He is incorrigible. Where are you going?
      7. edge
        edge April 19 2014 14: 51
        0
        The word "Russian" is not a noun, but an adjective, not "who?", But "which?" That is why this people is strong, ....... allahu akbar, the -ruses are coming.
      8. R1a1a
        R1a1a April 21 2014 14: 58
        +1
        Haplogroup R1a is not Russian, but Slavic; it is present at a level of 50% and more, first of all, among Poles, Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, and also, to a large extent, up to 50%, among Kyrgyz, Tajiks, Afghans, Altai, Uighurs and northern Indians. All of these are descendants of the Aryans.
        1. Setrac
          Setrac April 21 2014 20: 20
          0
          Quote: R1a1a
          Haplogroup R1a is not Russian, but Slavic; it is present at a level of 50% and more, first of all, among Poles, Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, and also, to a large extent, up to 50%, among Kyrgyz, Tajiks, Afghans, Altai, Uighurs and northern Indians. All of these are descendants of the Aryans.

          35% of Germans and the most interesting thing among Indians is more than one hundred million carriers of this gene.
    2. M. Peter
      M. Peter April 19 2014 07: 46
      +12
      My grandmother lived all her life in an environment where "classical" Russian was used, but she could not switch to it, no, no, yes, elements of surzhik (not MOV) slipped through, she considered herself Russian by the way, although she had a Ukrainian written in her Soviet passport. Originally from Vinitsa.
      We are Russian!
    3. Horde
      Horde April 19 2014 07: 47
      -34%
      I thought ... I listened to my own identity for a long time, looked into the mirror ... A tall, slender man in the prime of his life, smart, witty, educated. Personally, I like myself. And the children I failed, all three. I swear, well, unlike the Ukrainians, some “haplogroups” do not hover me, even if there is a Papuan gene to be found.


      in general, Russians are WHITE PEOPLE based on fair-haired with blue eyes and with other signs of the WHITE MAN and it is not worth diluting Russian blood with different Papuan. The FIRST is because the Russians should be Russian father and mother then children, i.e. the people will go from them Russian, and the Russian, which looks like a Jew or Papuan, cannot be RUSSIAN, because it is the white person’s genome that is vulnerable and white people will come from white people, and if you mix white with black or even gray then WHITE will never be NEVER, only shades of gray. Mixing peoples is moral fornication and deterioration of the human breed, each nation has its own customs and customs and does not violate these ancestral covenants, loss of its appearance, and therefore BEAUTY and HARMONIC PERFECTION IN THE FACE OF THE RUSSIAN MAN, what they are trying to take away from us is UNACCEPTABLE. RUSSIAN must be, both externally and consciously, remain Russian.
      1. M. Peter
        M. Peter April 19 2014 07: 56
        +17
        Quote: Horde
        in general, Russians are WHITE PEOPLE based on fair-haired with blue eyes and with other signs of the WHITE MAN

        I put you a minus, just for that. As soon as this happens, there will be no Russia and Russian will become an endangered species.

        In 1945, it seems, some of these "white people" were brought to their senses, apparently they will have to educate someone else.
        1. Horde
          Horde April 19 2014 08: 21
          +1
          Quote: M.Pyotr
          I put you a minus, just for that. As soon as this happens, there will be no Russia and Russian will become an endangered species.


          I put you too
          and which ones do you like more?
          such?

          or such?
          1. Semurg
            Semurg April 19 2014 09: 00
            +1
            a man and a girl like green and not blue eyes?
            1. Horde
              Horde April 19 2014 09: 05
              -4
              Quote: Semurg
              a man and a girl like green and not blue eyes?


              you have something with a computer, calibrate the color rendition, in other things there are a lot of green-eyed Russians too ...
              1. Semurg
                Semurg April 19 2014 09: 45
                +14
                maybe the computer is to blame, or maybe the amendment is correct that not only blue-eyed, but also green and brown-eyed are Russian. And insisting on fair hair and blue eyes, you make a mistake (not only by external signs determines nationality, and most importantly language and mentality).
                1. Igor39
                  Igor39 April 19 2014 13: 15
                  0
                  Ethnicity is a stereotype of behavior.
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              3. prishelec
                prishelec April 19 2014 14: 55
                +2
                / Horde /: quote: in other things, there are also many green-eyed Russians ... "

                And all my life I see in Russia that there are much more brunettes with blacks and brown-eyed among Russians, green-eyed among others and among Caucasians as well, and they are not black, except for those who are constantly in the sun in the wind, and those who are in they stay in the rooms, work in air-conditioned rooms, they are the same white as the Russians! And I must say that I am not Caucasian and not Russian, I am a native Russian, and if you do not consider Russian Papuans, then I should not disappoint you, not Papuans, Papuans in Africa but not in Russia, I live in the central latitudes of Russia, brown hair, brown eyes, and completely white! fellow laughing wassat
                1. Horde
                  Horde April 19 2014 15: 27
                  -4
                  Quote: prishelec
                  they are not in Russia, I live in the central latitudes of Russia, brown hair, brown eyes, and completely white!


                  to be Russian is not enough, you have to LIKE RUSSIAN, but the fact that Russians are a PERFECT PEOPLE is not the fault of the Russians, questions to the Lord ...
                  1. prishelec
                    prishelec April 21 2014 04: 57
                    -1
                    Well ... I have never tried to be like Russians, but I still look like Russians — more than some Russians themselves, or maybe you damn it seem like we’ve seen in life and I see Russians like Tatars, Bashkirs, Caucasians and so on. But of course you are perfection itself, an exceptional buffoon good yes
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          3. koshh
            koshh April 19 2014 09: 16
            +5
            The main thing is that the MAN would be good.
          4. Morgan
            Morgan April 19 2014 11: 44
            +1
            You confuse outward signs with moral ones. But! MORAL QUALITIES ARE NOT INHERITED AND NOT REDUCED! Absolutely proven, and on representative samples VERY large volume.
          5. de_monSher
            de_monSher April 20 2014 00: 38
            +1
            and which ones do you like more?
            such?


            Huh ... it's the same as comparing a square, with a deep ... *)

            What do you like more - drink brandy, or look at the sea while sitting in the saddle backwards? You, dear, are about SUCH logic, if you exaggerate a little ... *)
        2. Horde
          Horde April 19 2014 08: 28
          +3
          Quote: M.Pyotr
          In 1945, it seems, some of these "white people" were brought to their senses, apparently they will have to educate someone else.



          What do you dislike about white-Russian people? or do you want the Russians to be like the Jews?
          1. razv35
            razv35 April 19 2014 10: 08
            +8
            And then the Jews ??? Few Jews outlived life and health for Russia? No matter how a person looks, it is important that he is!
            1. Normal
              Normal April 19 2014 10: 50
              +3
              Quote: razv35
              And then the Jews ???


              Jews are always "with" laughing
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        4. cumastra1
          cumastra1 April 19 2014 08: 34
          +9
          Yes, that is, in this reasoning from Himler, the true Aryan must be tall (like a ribbentrop), slim (like a goering) and blond (like a Fuhrer).
        5. Zaslavsky-S
          Zaslavsky-S April 19 2014 10: 00
          +9
          You do not cheat nonsense! Russian is Russian! Slav! Wise guys gathered, and decide whether there is such a nation or not. It’s a shame even to read.

          The nation is sick now. But this, you need to get sick. That immunity would be developed.
          There are no Russians. Well, you fucked ... agreed ...
          I AM RUSSIAN!!!!!!!!!!!
          1. s1н7т
            s1н7т April 19 2014 11: 07
            +1
            Quote: Zaslavsky-S
            Russian is Russian! Slav!

            It will be more correct to say that the Russians are descendants of the Slavs mixed with Ugrians and Turks in different proportions for different individuals. The story, however! I remember that Kievan Rus was created by a union of tribes, where the Slavs were not superior in numbers to the others. And what is ruser, it would seem, than she? From there it went - from Russia, then Russian.
          2. trew2012
            trew2012 April 19 2014 14: 01
            +1
            And I am Russian, Siberian, proud of it and ready to give my life !!!!!
            And if not laziness, calculate how many new ones appeared on the site, brothers
          3. With Petrovsky
            With Petrovsky April 19 2014 14: 15
            +2
            I would like to add, unfortunately, today it is difficult to define Russians as a nation occupying a certain territory. There are only Russians (citizens of Russia) - who live within the borders of Russia, know and reproduce the language, culture, history and traditions of this state. Russians are the only ones who determine their nationality precisely by nation, and not by country of residence, region.
      2. AVIATOR36662
        AVIATOR36662 April 19 2014 08: 31
        +7
        Then for sure, comrade, you have to sit down for books on biology and genetics! Then you won’t bring such rubbish to the whole world, that mixing peoples is a deterioration of the human breed. You need to learn everything, and this is effortless and time-wasting! Good luck
        1. Horde
          Horde April 19 2014 08: 34
          -3
          Quote: AVIATOR36662
          Then for sure, comrade, you have to sit down for books on biology and genetics! Then you won’t bring such rubbish to the whole world, that mixing peoples is a deterioration of the human breed. You need to learn everything, and this is effortless and time-wasting! Good luck



          plainly can you say something? need to mix or not?
        2. Hort
          Hort April 19 2014 09: 33
          -9
          a mixture of peoples is basically a deterioration of the gene pool. And fascism has nothing to do with it absolutely. Especially if such a mixture occurs between distant species of people - blacks and whites, Mongoloids with blacks, etc.
          Cross, say, a husky and a bulldog - will it be a good breed?
          1. Horde
            Horde April 19 2014 10: 04
            -7
            Quote: hort
            a mixture of peoples is basically a deterioration of the gene pool. And fascism has nothing to do with it absolutely. Especially if such a mixture occurs between distant species of people - blacks and whites, Mongoloids with blacks, etc.
            Cross, say, a husky and a bulldog - will it be a good breed?


            so respected, there are no half-breeds prettier, more harmonious than a natural -natural look, they are always worse ...
            1. cumastra1
              cumastra1 April 19 2014 10: 35
              -5
              Learn biology. In particular, the phenomenon of heterosis ...
              1. Morgan
                Morgan April 19 2014 16: 27
                +2
                In applied biology, heterosis is used to produce broilers. In comparison with clean lines, physical condition is positively affected. The moral and ethical data of broilers is unknown. They are eaten!
              2. iConst
                iConst April 19 2014 16: 35
                0
                Heterosis has been studied more in plants. And there are more questions than answers.

                И Hort I gave a good example with animals - they try to cross, they are engaged in selection and not everything goes so smoothly. For tens of thousands of options, units of success. meaning viable offspring with normally reproducible "characteristics".

                As for man, then Hort right - there are studies that mixing strongly genetically different individuals from different populations in the average mass give offspring with performance worse than within their "species".

                Of course there are exceptions. But they are both one way and the other. And racism has nothing to do with it.
              3. Irokez
                Irokez April 19 2014 21: 00
                -1
                According to new discoveries (although this has long been known in antiquity among the Rus), there is such a phenomenon as telegonia.
                This is where the dog is buried, not in the genes of dad and mom. Chastity is above all.
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            3. s1н7т
              s1н7т April 19 2014 17: 38
              0
              Quote: Horde
              Half-breeds are not prettier, more harmonious than the natural -natural look, they are always worse ...

              Chukhna, sorry! And creoles ?! Although, of course, they don’t argue about tastes laughing
              1. Horde
                Horde April 19 2014 18: 13
                -2
                Quote: c1n7
                Chukhna, sorry! And creoles ?! Although, of course, they don’t argue about tastes


                more beautiful than black, but worse than white, you are too frivolous in this matter, ask your mother she will tell you who should marry a Creole or a Russian ...
            4. s1н7т
              s1н7т April 19 2014 17: 38
              0
              Quote: Horde
              Half-breeds are not prettier, more harmonious than the natural -natural look, they are always worse ...

              Chukhna, sorry! And creoles ?! Although, of course, they don’t argue about tastes laughing
          2. GRune
            GRune April 19 2014 10: 42
            +2
            Drive to Brazil for the carnival, deterioration ...
            Maybe you and incest are held in high esteem ??
            1. iConst
              iConst April 19 2014 20: 03
              0
              Quote: GRune
              Drive to Brazil for the carnival, deterioration ...
              Maybe you and incest are held in high esteem ??

              And you didn’t try to look for bentopods at a beauty contest? Carnival... laughing

              He will tell you how it will turn into a puddle ...
          3. revnagan
            revnagan April 19 2014 10: 45
            +1
            Quote: hort
            a mixture of peoples is basically a deterioration of the gene pool

            Quote: hort
            Cross, say, like and bulldog - a good breed will turn out

            "And these people forbid me to pick my nose!"
            Brothers, what are you better than "racial Galicians !?
            Purebred breeders should be proud of pedigrees and purebred!
            1. Morgan
              Morgan April 19 2014 16: 21
              +2
              Precisely, let the dogs be thoroughbred. As for the definition of a nation by ancestors, there is a wise statement: "The father is not the one who conceived, but the one who raised"
              1. Hort
                Hort April 19 2014 19: 12
                +1
                for God's sake. Personally, my offspring will be "purebred" - Russian. Or at least white, if you don't take nationality into account.
                By the way, the same Caucasians have a very normal custom - to marry the women of their people. Exceptions are rare. for Orthodox Jews, this is generally a strict rule.
                because they honor the traditions of their ancestors.
                Well, since they started talking about thoroughbredness - I will give an example of my cousins, who are half Russian by blood - all three have problems with immunity and health. Since birth.

                Thanks to the Nazis, the topic of anthropology and the relationship between races is simply politicized and has a negative connotation, and few people can discuss this issue objectively.
          4. 225chay
            225chay April 19 2014 15: 03
            +2
            Quote: hort
            Cross, say, a husky and a bulldog - will it be a good breed?


            The new Breed group will turn out not resistant ...
      3. koshh
        koshh April 19 2014 09: 05
        +4
        Quote: Horde
        in general, Russians are WHITE PEOPLE

        Have you measured the skull? What settings? Write, I want to decide - who am I? A grandfather from Vyatka, a grandmother from the middle Urals, a father was born in Bodaibo (Siberia), a mother from near Kurgan (southern Urals), and I consider myself a native Yekaterinburg. Am I Russian or not?
        1. Horde
          Horde April 19 2014 09: 30
          -7
          Quote: koshh
          Have you measured the skull? What settings? Write, I want to decide - who am I? A grandfather from Vyatka, a grandmother from the middle Urals, a father was born in Bodaibo (Siberia), a mother from near Kurgan (southern Urals), and I consider myself a native Yekaterinburg. Am I Russian or not?



          continue crushing further, you are just BURZHETS, however, both in the Urals, and in Siberia, and in Kurgan, RUSSIANS live everywhere, so what's the question?
          1. koshh
            koshh April 19 2014 10: 04
            +1
            After all, it is you who propose to divide WHITE into WHITE.
            1. Horde
              Horde April 19 2014 10: 20
              -3
              Quote: koshh
              After all, it is you who propose to divide WHITE into WHITE


              absurdity again, I suggest? I only ASSUME, AND THERE IS THE LORD'S LOCATION ... laughing WOW
            2. Hort
              Hort April 19 2014 19: 16
              0
              chesslovo, write nonsense. How can you suggest someone to share, if we are all already shared by nature?)))
              There are 4 races and a bunch of nationalities inside them.

              And by the way. nobody here says that "that Japanese s.vo.loch" just because he is not from our race and is not white. It's just that cosmopolitanism is not good either
            3. Setrac
              Setrac April 21 2014 20: 48
              0
              Quote: koshh
              After all, it is you who propose to divide WHITE into WHITE.

              And so what? There are first races - white, yellow and black. there are secondary races, obtained by mixing primary ones - these are gray, brown and red races.
              There is no fascism or Nazism here, fascism and Nazism are to prove the SUPERIORITY of their race or nation, as did the "true Aryans" from Deutschland. In fact, your nationality or race does not give you any advantages, except for those that you yourself create.
          2. koshh
            koshh April 19 2014 10: 18
            +1
            Quote: Horde
            continue crushing further, you are just BURZHETS, however, both in the Urals, and in Siberia, and in Kurgan, RUSSIANS live everywhere, so what's the question?

            And then, will you? not really from the boyars?
            1. revnagan
              revnagan April 19 2014 10: 47
              -1
              Quote: koshh
              And then, will you? not really from the boyars?

              No, it’s like Vysotsky’s monarch and even a nobleman.
            2. Horde
              Horde April 19 2014 18: 54
              +1
              Quote: koshh
              And then, will you? not really from the boyars?


              -unrecognized the boyar,
              Are you a prince?
              - perhaps a prince, but what's so surprising? laughing
      4. alexbg2
        alexbg2 April 19 2014 09: 30
        +8
        Quote: Horde
        ... in general, Russians are WHITE PEOPLE based on fair-haired with blue eyes and with other signs of the WHITE MAN and it’s not worth diluting Russian blood with different Papuan ...

        Why should A.S.Pushkin be screwed up ?, it will not work! He considered himself Russian and was Russian.
        1. Horde
          Horde April 19 2014 10: 08
          +2
          Quote: alexbg2
          Why should A.S.Pushkin be screwed up ?, it will not work! He considered himself Russian and was Russian.


          Well, PUSHKIN’s Russian mother, don’t forget about it, and as for the appearance, then, along with his brilliant giftedness, Pushkin was by no means a handsome man ...
          1. I read the news
            I read the news April 19 2014 10: 21
            +3
            Quote: Horde
            Well, PUSHKIN’s mother is Russian

            Horde, are you one of those that determine your mother’s nationality?
            1. AntonR7
              AntonR7 April 19 2014 11: 02
              +1
              Whom a man considers himself to be, he is. I’m sure why Pushkin considered himself Russian.
            2. Horde
              Horde April 19 2014 14: 44
              -3
              Quote: I readNews
              Horde, are you one of those that determine your mother’s nationality?


              I have already said that nationality depends on mom and dad, grandparents and ALL other ancestors ...
              1. Morgan
                Morgan April 19 2014 15: 18
                +1
                Herr’s inter-look. Straight student of Rosenberg. True Aryan, merciless to the enemies of the Reich ...
                PS This is a characteristic I am throwing for the Nuremberg Tribunal. Useful.
        2. Petrol
          Petrol April 21 2014 11: 13
          0
          about Pushkin’s maternal affiliation with the scatter is transmitted to him + he also discovered the patrimonial memory .... and so that the gene stem of the race cleansed, the mother’s body concentrates the foreign genome in children, for example, in Slovenes in the 174-216 generation among 12–16-generation Jews for getting a geek or a freak who can’t give offspring ..... for this reason, the leaders of occult movements in the United States so stubbornly mix races or, in other words, the natural killing of people.
      5. sssla
        sssla April 19 2014 09: 35
        +1
        Quote: Horde
        in general, Russians are WHITE PEOPLE based on fair-haired with blue eyes and with other signs of the WHITE MAN

        Well done Horde But right now you will be in a corner on peas They did not understand you well, and to them all))) Hammer
      6. sssla
        sssla April 19 2014 09: 37
        -4
        Quote: Horde
        it's WHITE PEOPLE at the core

        And I would say that BLACK so threw you toffee On the site, half a minimum of tolerance
      7. Kazakh
        Kazakh April 19 2014 09: 38
        +2
        Quote: Horde
        a Jew or a Papuan cannot be RUSSIAN, because it is the white person’s genome that is vulnerable and white people will come from white people, and if you mix white with black or even gray, then WHITE will NEVER be
        And Pushkin and his descendants are the clearest example of this. wink
        1. SUSANIN 777
          SUSANIN 777 April 19 2014 14: 07
          0
          There is a nationality RUSSIAN, and there is a civilization RUSSIAN - other peoples living in Russian culture and thinking in Russian.
          Do not confuse soft with warm.
          Although interesting is the fact that for example Tatar, Jewish, Bashkir, etc. there is a republic, but there is no Russian! But this is not at all because there is no such nationality, but because there are people interested in destroying its identity and spreading their remains throughout the country. For it was and is the backbone of all our internationalism. The connecting link, without which civilization itself will fall apart.
          Not for nothing that even in tsarist times, a unit with a certain low percentage of Russians was considered not combat ready! Let historians correct me, in detail. But I hope it is washed away and so clear drinks
          1. SUSANIN 777
            SUSANIN 777 April 19 2014 16: 21
            +1
            The author opened my eyes, it turns out everyone has a nationality, but I do not have it!
            What should I do now, look for the Tatar-Mongolian roots? am
      8. DeOS78RU
        DeOS78RU April 19 2014 10: 10
        +14
        blue-eyed, fair-haired white people ... something it reminds ... nah ... minus
        I am dark-haired, brown-eyed, okay even white))) and RUSSIAN! And I have friends from the Tatars (by the way, fair-haired and fair-eyed (blue, yes green) and also RUSSIAN!
        Russian is really a state of mind. Russia is not an ethnic state, not a regional power. Russia - Civilization!
      9. Stavros
        Stavros April 19 2014 10: 14
        +1
        Absolutely. Plus to you.
      10. Support
        Support April 19 2014 10: 43
        +1
        Totally agree
      11. Morgan
        Morgan April 19 2014 11: 39
        -2
        Your views on the purity of the race were condemned in Nuremberg and the like are professed by the Kiev Junta and the Westerners. I explain - Russian is a self-identification of belonging to a single spiritual community. Hereditary external signs are indifferent !!! Or are you a fascist?
        1. Setrac
          Setrac April 21 2014 20: 52
          0
          Quote: Morgan
          Hereditary external signs are indifferent !!! Or are you a fascist?

          And what, now we need to be ashamed of our external signs, so that the Nazis do not call? This is fascism, you only direct it against whites, you are a fascist.
      12. kotvov
        kotvov April 19 2014 12: 09
        +2
        so, let’s start measuring skulls, comparing noses, counting fingers? you’ve obviously not slept. I’m from Don, Cossacks (father from Cossacks) have so much blood, mother from Smolensk, and that, you’ll determine my nationality. I don’t advise one already Meryl-bad ending.
      13. vadimN
        vadimN April 19 2014 12: 18
        +4
        in accordance with your worldview, this is not a great Russian poet, but the fruit of moral fornication and the worst example of the human breed ????
      14. Spnsr
        Spnsr April 19 2014 13: 19
        +2
        Quote: Horde
        I thought ... I listened to my own identity for a long time, looked into the mirror ... A tall, slender man in the prime of his life, smart, witty, educated. Personally, I like myself. And the children I failed, all three. I swear, well, unlike the Ukrainians, some “haplogroups” do not hover me, even if there is a Papuan gene to be found.


        in general, Russians are WHITE PEOPLE based on fair-haired with blue eyes and with other signs of the WHITE MAN and it is not worth diluting Russian blood with different Papuan. The FIRST is because the Russians should be Russian father and mother then children, i.e. the people will go from them Russian, and the Russian, which looks like a Jew or Papuan, cannot be RUSSIAN, because it is the white person’s genome that is vulnerable and white people will come from white people, and if you mix white with black or even gray then WHITE will never be NEVER, only shades of gray. Mixing peoples is moral fornication and deterioration of the human breed, each nation has its own customs and customs and does not violate these ancestral covenants, loss of its appearance, and therefore BEAUTY and HARMONIC PERFECTION IN THE FACE OF THE RUSSIAN MAN, what they are trying to take away from us is UNACCEPTABLE. RUSSIAN must be, both externally and consciously, remain Russian.

        then tell me who am i? they confuse me with a Tatar, a Chechen, an Asian, but my ancestors are Ural Cossacks by my mother, and my father's ancestors are from Poltava, my father was always Russian, although he has all the features of a Serb.
        but the maternal grandmother, grandfather was silent more often, was a nationalist, called herself and all relatives Cossacks, and the rest as lapotniki, not Russian, but lapotniki, did not treat them badly, simply said that everyone should know their place. there were no nationality problems for her! laughing well, like this???
        1. Horde
          Horde April 19 2014 13: 31
          0
          Quote: SpnSr
          then tell me who am i? they confuse me with a Tatar, a Chechen, an Asian, but my ancestors are Ural Cossacks by my mother, and my father's ancestors are from Poltava, my father was always Russian, although he has all the features of a Serb.


          a person should be of the nationality that he looks like, what features are dominated by either an Asian or a Caucasian, but unfortunately not Russian anymore, precisely because the Russian genome is VERY VULNERABLE, Russian is that when all the ancestors are Russian or at least white and then rather not always. The disregard for nationalities, when a person decides what breed he is is not right, scientists should decide such questions ...
          1. Spnsr
            Spnsr April 19 2014 13: 52
            0
            Quote: Horde
            Quote: SpnSr
            then tell me who am i? they confuse me with a Tatar, a Chechen, an Asian, but my ancestors are Ural Cossacks by my mother, and my father's ancestors are from Poltava, my father was always Russian, although he has all the features of a Serb.


            a person should be of the nationality that he looks like, what features are dominated by either an Asian or a Caucasian, but unfortunately not Russian anymore, precisely because the Russian genome is VERY VULNERABLE, Russian is that when all the ancestors are Russian or at least white and then rather not always. The disregard for nationalities, when a person decides what breed he is is not right, scientists should decide such questions ...

            Yes, scientists, German scientists have already written us a story, and here, too, will end a lot than incomprehensible! ok, i'm not russian, i'm a cossack, but who said that lapotniki can be called russian? the question is not to litter, but to logic! compare Kadyrov with the description that you yourself give to the Russians !?
      15. andrewvlg
        andrewvlg April 19 2014 14: 16
        +1
        in general, Russians are WHITE PEOPLE based on fair-haired with blue eyes and with other signs of a WHITE MAN and it is not worth different Papuan blood to dilute Russian blood. It is FIRST because Russians must be Russian father and mother then children, i.e. the people will go from them Russian, and the Russian, which looks like a Jew or Papuan, cannot be RUSSIAN, because it is the white person’s genome that is vulnerable

        Amazing! Everyone criticizes the Nazis in Kiev, but "their" Nazis are white and fluffy. Your knowledge of genetics does not stand up to scrutiny.
        Please provide a link to an article in a serious scientific publication, which substantiates that
        that the Russian genome is VERY VULNERABLE, Russian is that when all the ancestors are Russian, or at least white, and then most likely not always.
        1. Horde
          Horde April 19 2014 15: 17
          +2
          Quote: andrewvlg
          shocking! Everyone criticizes the Nazis in Kiev, but "their" Nazis are white and fluffy. Your knowledge of genetics does not stand up to scrutiny.


          firstly, the NAZIS are members of the National Socialist Party in Germany in those years, so calling me a Nazi is not correct and illiterate, I consider myself a RUSSIAN NATIONALISTS. people who put RUSSIAN CULTURE at the head of everything. In Kiev, the Jews run Turchynov, Yaytsenyuk, Tyagnibok, Kolomoisky, Tymoshenko - all Yafreys who disguise themselves as "Ukrainians", and they are pursuing the policy of the GENOCIDE of the RUSSIAN people.

          Quote: andrewvlg
          Please provide a link to an article in a serious scientific publication, which substantiates that


          Secondly, remember once and for all all these academic disciplines HISTORY, PLACEMENT, LINGUISTICS, were created not to tell the truth, science history has already been convicted of lies, but in order to SUPPORT ARTIFICIAL CREATION called WORLD HUMANITIES. This is created with only one purpose to KEEP the Russian Slavic world in SUBMISSION.
          As for the fact that from white by mixing with dark it turns HALF, comes from PHYSICS, to which I, as a person with high-tech related, can also easily determine from personal experience and observations of people ...
          1. andrewvlg
            andrewvlg April 19 2014 15: 42
            +3
            Secondly, remember once and for all all these academic disciplines HISTORY, PLACEMENT, LINGUISTICS, were created not to tell the truth, science history has already been convicted of lies, but in order to SUPPORT ARTIFICIAL CREATION called WORLD HUMANITIES.

            Thanks for the clarification, but genetics (and other biology) is not a humanities science. That is, your hypothesis must have scientific evidence, as in physics. Do you have any links to serious science works?
            Firstly, the Nazis are members of the National Socialist Party in Germany of those years, so calling me a Nazi is not correct and illiterate, I consider myself to be RUSSIAN NATIONALISTS i.e. people putting at the head of all RUSSIAN CULTURE.

            Yes, historically Nazis are German National Socialists, you are right. Does it follow from this that it is impossible to apply the term "Nazis" to a "Bandera" in Ukraine (and in general anywhere)? We also have young people with a swastika on their sleeves. What would you like to call them? Explain, please, on what positions do you as a nationalist disagree with the Nazis?
            1. Horde
              Horde April 19 2014 16: 22
              -1
              Quote: andrewvlg
              Do you have any links to serious science works?


              do you insist on having scientific evidence that white with black will give white again? but it’s against the basic scientific principle of HEALTH


              NEVER it will be otherwise that white is born from a black and white, although they say there are some exceptions.
              who knows? These are Obama’s parents and this is a natural process. How can I prove the obvious?

              1. andrewvlg
                andrewvlg April 19 2014 16: 56
                +4
                Quote: Horde
                who knows? These are Obama’s parents and this is a natural process. How can I prove the obvious?

                As far as I know, from the mixing of the Caucasian and Negroid races mulattos are obtained. They are most in Latin America (Dominican Republic - 73%, Cuba - 51%, Brazil - 38%). It seems like quite viable individuals. If the mulattos continue to marry Europeans, then there will be fewer differences (including the color of the skin will be lighter).
                An example is Alexander Sergeevich Pushkin. Incidentally, it was he who "perfected" literary Russian practically to the modern level. By your logic, is the “most Russian” poet racially inferior? am
                But you stepped aside from my question - where is the scientific evidence of your statement
                that the Russian genome is VERY VULNERABLE, Russian is that when all the ancestors are Russian, or at least white, and then most likely not always.

                Mulattos are a special case. There are marriages not only between Russians and Africans.
            2. Horde
              Horde April 19 2014 16: 39
              -3
              Quote: andrewvlg
              Please explain what positions do you, as a nationalist, disagree with the Nazis?


              probably the main Nazis destroyed subhuman, I do not destroy them laughing
            3. Hort
              Hort April 19 2014 19: 20
              -1
              in fact, before the revolution, there was a lot of research by Russian scientists on the topic of racology and anthropology. There is a book "Russian racial theory before 1917" or something like that, google it - check it out. It's just that since 1945 this topic has become very delicate.
              1. andrewvlg
                andrewvlg April 19 2014 19: 38
                0
                Quote: hort
                in fact, before the revolution, there was a lot of research by Russian scientists on the topic of racology and anthropology. There is a book "Russian racial theory before 1917" or something like that, google it - check it out. It's just that since 1945 this topic has become very delicate.

                Forgive me for being incredulous, but this is not a scientific work. Unless you offer me to get acquainted with the works of figures of the 18-19th century, the scarce information about which is given in it, then I do not see the answer to my question: what scientific evidence
                that the Russian genome is VERY VULNERABLE, Russian is that when all the ancestors are Russian, or at least white, and then most likely not always.

                You know, there was a Lambroso who tried to determine the inclinations of a person by the structure of the body. T. about. thus, it was possible to isolate potential criminals at once, etc. So, it turned out that this is a lie. Why are you referring me to a book describing the history of the emergence of "racial theories" 100-200 years ago? Is it because all theories of "racial inferiority" turned out to be wrong in the light of modern anthropology, psychology, genetics, psychiatry?
                1. Hort
                  Hort April 19 2014 22: 51
                  -1
                  There is a lot of scientific evidence, but they are not advertised for political reasons. The same Americans had a lot of research until 1989 (approximately), after that they took a course towards tolerance in politics and removed the results of the research from the public, and covered unfinished projects.
                  The Lombroso system partially fell into criminology, although in general it did not justify itself, yes.
                  There are no inferior races, there are some differences in the genotype and development in one direction or another.
      16. Irokez
        Irokez April 19 2014 20: 52
        0
        Damn again you came out with lapses.
        In your words, if the mother and father is Russian, then there will be Russian offspring, but I have many many examples where purebred Russians are fascists or notorious Russophobes.
        Therefore, your opus about Russians who should be Russians by blood is not true in the root. There are many examples of people of other races, but in the spirit of purely Russian.
        I can assume that you are not a purebred Russian who expresses such opuses on which fatty minuses pour in.
      17. grandfather_Kostya
        grandfather_Kostya April 19 2014 22: 52
        +1
        I myself am Russian both by my parents and by my passport. After graduating from Leningrad University, he lived and worked for 12 years in Central Asia until the very beginning of the civil war in Tajikistan. In 1990 he took his family to Russia, and before leaving he spoke with a friend for his life and this is what I heard: "You can go home to Russia, but where can I go, to Canada?" He himself is Tajik in his face and passport, but his mother is Ukrainian, and the family spoke only Russian, he studied at a Russian school, then at a local university with Russian teachers. It turned out to be a purely Russian person in spirit. He took a girl from a mixed family as his wife: her father is Armenian. the mother is Tatar, the language of communication in the family is also only Russian. Here is a friend of mine and asks, when his son was born, what nationality should he rank? Guess it at once. Now I live in the Leningrad region and sadly notice that the local aborigines from the Russian language are enough for one thousandth part of it (obscene) and any Kyrgyz knows Russian better. And you say BLOOD ... WORSE of the breed.
      18. Setrac
        Setrac April 21 2014 20: 30
        0
        Dear Horde (full name: [Add to the blacklist]), you are only partially right, yes, there is no such nation — Russians, because Russians are Russians — light (blond, white) race. However, one must understand here that the appearance is determined by the habitat and foreigners (not Russians) will quickly become gray (within several generations), while at the same time, Russians in other countries (in other natural conditions) will lose their Russianness.

        Heh, 14 people are ready to set aside their racial identity and as many as 47 people consider themselves to be just the next Europeans, straighten their slave backs, it’s good to bend to the west.

        We are always charged that our nationality is an adjective, and the rest have a noun, so they are right, the names of nationalities are nouns, the names of races are an adjective.

        Do not hit hard for mine (there is no Russian nation), we are a nation - there are no other nations in our race, this is me for clarity.
      19. habalog
        habalog April 21 2014 22: 38
        0
        Learn the basics of genetics, comrad.
    4. predator.3
      predator.3 April 19 2014 09: 56
      +4
      To begin with, I’ll tell you a secret: you can learn to understand “reedna mov” in a couple of weeks. It’s enough to remember a hundred words that are very different from Russian


      Article +, for two years urgent (Transcarpathian region), we also mastered Ukrainian well, our Uzbeks even spoke it well by the end of the service, but now I catch myself thinking that I don’t understand Ukrainian (when I watch Ukrainian TV reports) like even those words, but the pronunciation, the influence of Lviv is felt, maybe it seems to me that all the same a quarter of a century has passed!
      1. revnagan
        revnagan April 19 2014 10: 53
        +1
        Quote: predator.3
        Lviv influence is felt, maybe it seems to me that all the same, a quarter of a century has passed!

        No, you’re right, the classically Ukrainian (Poltava, Zaporizhzhya Chernihiv) dialect is gradually being replaced by the Galician dialect. The creeping occupation of the Banderstates is everywhere. Moreover, they say that this is exactly what is Ukrainian.
    5. Validator
      Validator April 19 2014 09: 58
      +9
      Ruus is the mother tongue for 83% of Ukrainians. This was revealed by a survey of an international organization a couple of years ago. Everything else is foam
    6. mongoose
      mongoose April 19 2014 10: 03
      +1
      yes, yes we do not exist, convince yourself further, over on ukroin already convinced many
    7. Validator
      Validator April 19 2014 11: 00
      +12
      There are a lot of normal people on Uranin, all hope for them
      1. aviamed90
        aviamed90 April 19 2014 11: 03
        +6
        Validator

        Alas!

        Was.

        Died 22 July 2012 of the year.

        He rest in peace.
    8. wow
      wow April 19 2014 11: 03
      +2
      Yes, that's right. Even during the union, a young replenishment arrived to us. There turned out to be someone speaking in an incomprehensible language, summoned from somewhere from Zapukriya. They called a sergeant, a native of Lvov. For a long time he listened to him, so he didn't understand! It turned out to be some kind of "wild" Hungarian. How.
    9. Cherdak
      Cherdak April 19 2014 11: 52
      -2
      Quote: mamont5
      “This is a purebred Russian!”

      I have heard another version of the appearance of the word ROS, RUS, RUSSIAN - from the common root of the word роспись - a written list of something - i.e. actual agreement on the unification of certain territories. That is why the word is an adjective, not a noun.
      And anyone can be Russian, regardless of their nationality.
    10. Foreman49
      Foreman49 April 19 2014 12: 19
      +1
      "State of the soul" as brushwood, Putin prescribed in the Constitution of the Russian Federation. The new migration law legalized the importation of ELECTORS from Asia, and consequently the recruitment of punitive Russian people from among migrants to the Russian Army! The final solution to the Russian question in the Russian Federation according to Putin!
    11. Skipper2050
      Skipper2050 April 19 2014 12: 39
      +3
      And I would say RUSSIAN - this is blood and language and a state of mind and attitude!
    12. iConst
      iConst April 20 2014 15: 36
      -1
      Quote: mamont5
      Everything is correct, for RUSSIAN is not blood and not language. RUSSIAN is a state of mind.

      I see this chain of evidence: Russian is a state of mind: Russian state of mind is a nonsense: blacks are nonsense = mean blacks are Russian laughing

      Do not take it to heart - I'm kidding ...
  2. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 April 19 2014 07: 04
    +13
    From the Don.
    Well, if behind the cordon all immigrants of the former USSR are called Russians, what can I talk about?
    1. Duke
      Duke April 19 2014 07: 21
      +13
      Russian man is a worldview.
    2. Revolver
      Revolver April 19 2014 07: 45
      +13
      Quote: borisjdin1957
      behind the cordon all immigrants of the former USSR are called Russian

      I confirm. Fact.
  3. Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch April 19 2014 07: 05
    +17
    “Are you a color violinist? Can’t you tell green from orange? ”

    That's for sure ... Half of Ukraine in green pants, half in orange. And they want to make patsaks from the southeast. Chatlan, your mother ...
    1. Evgen_Vasilich
      Evgen_Vasilich April 19 2014 08: 46
      +2
      where are they interested in how many Tsaks (bells) will find and how, most interesting, will their Patsaks hang them up? lol
      1. revnagan
        revnagan April 19 2014 10: 55
        +2
        Quote: Evgen_Vasilich
        where are they interested in how many Tsaks (bells) will find and how, most interesting, will their Patsaks hang them up?

        They are not going to hang bells. They are going to destroy the patsaks, at best, to assimilate.
    2. demoniac1666
      demoniac1666 April 19 2014 10: 47
      +1
      All orange chatlan urgently needs to be sent to Alpha Centauri, let them make cacti out of them! Nefig them on Earth do !!! am
  4. ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 April 19 2014 07: 08
    +10
    So the supporters of Federalization with their resistance prove that they are Russian and will live like Russians, that is, with our foundations of society and our morality. Russian-valor, self-sacrifice, compassion, creation.
  5. vladimirZ
    vladimirZ April 19 2014 07: 13
    +18
    All is correct. Everyone who lives in Russia is Russian, whatever their nationality. The main thing is Russian, and then what kind of Russian.
    As the great Stalin IV said: "I am Russian, of Georgian origin!"
    Suvorov Alexander Vasilievich: "I am Russian, what a delight!"
    1. 11 black
      11 black April 19 2014 13: 35
      +2
      Quote: vladimirZ
      All is correct. Everyone who lives in Russia is Russian, whatever their nationality. The main thing is Russian, and then what kind of Russian.
      As the great Stalin IV said: "I am Russian, of Georgian origin!"
      Suvorov Alexander Vasilievich: "I am Russian, what a delight!"

      Of course yes, I will subscribe to each of this word, BUT:
      1 Still, do not forget that there is a Russian nationality too !!!
      2 Just as Russian by nationality should respect Russian in spirit, so Russian in spirit should respect Russian by nationality, and not say that there simply aren’t, we are, here I am, Russian by nationality, but I'm not saying that other nationalities of Russia not Russians, we are all RUSSIAN, but in the end, in the beginning, all Russians in spirit adopted this spirit from the native Russians, and there is nothing wrong with that, on the contrary it’s wonderful, we also need to remember that we don’t say that there is simply no Russian nationality !! ! It's a lie! If so, why did Russian culture go and why is it called Russian !!!
      1. 11 black
        11 black April 19 2014 19: 21
        0
        If you put a minus then answer my question))
    2. nika407
      nika407 April 21 2014 12: 48
      0
      Quote: vladimirZ
      Everyone who lives in Russia is Russian, whatever their nationality.
      not everyone who lives in Russia is Russian
  6. mak210
    mak210 April 19 2014 07: 13
    +6
    The word "Russian" is not a noun, but an adjective, not "who?", But "which?"


    Wow! But I didn’t notice, and indeed it is, even the native Jews of Brighton and Jerusalem will remain Russian until the end of their days.
  7. Magadan
    Magadan April 19 2014 07: 15
    +25
    Ah yes the author !!! Ah yes ssukin son! Well done, pleased :) The article goes to my Golden Fund of the Russian Internet!
    I was pleased about the nationality of the Ma-Askvichs (along with the Pa-Adma-Askvichs :)
    The Magadan people are also a separate nationality, which includes just friendly people who, without knowing the person, could easily give money for a return ticket to Magadan to their fellow countryman who had walked away from everything. And then just wait without straining when he returns "as he can". I have never heard that they would not be returned :) And under the USSR there was such a trick - not to lock the doors during the New Year. You sit, in general, you celebrate, and you may be visiting a stranger at all, just walked in, passed by :)
    Well it used to be :(
    1. M. Peter
      M. Peter April 19 2014 08: 10
      +6
      Quote: Magadan
      Well it used to be :(

      Among Siberians, this still exists, not in the big cities of Konesh, where capitalism has already won, but not everything is lost.
  8. Humpty
    Humpty April 19 2014 07: 18
    +31
    A few years ago, a good Kyrgyz acquaintance near Easter, a daughter, about 6 years old, asks her Kyrgyz mother (actually half Tatar) when she starts to paint eggs and bake Easter cakes. To which mother replied, well, it’s not ours holiday. Daughter surprised:
    -How not ours?
    -This is Russian note.
    “And who are we?” The girl wonders.
    -We are Kyrgyz.
    The girl cried and went into another room.
    I will add that the eldest son of my acquaintances, up to the age of 12, was absolutely sure that he was Russian.
    1. ammunition
      ammunition April 19 2014 07: 55
      +22
      Quote: Humpty
      .Daughter surprised:
      -How not ours?


      Humpty Dumpty. I hope that this discord will pass, and the girl will not cry.
      ------
      There are many Bashkirs and Tatars in the South Urals. Thirty years ago .. an adult Bashkirin could say - "What are you? Not Russian, or what?" ... And it was so natural that no one noticed any dirty tricks.
      ----------
      For the same Bashkir. Bilingualism. Belonging to two cultures. One of which is global and great (and powerful). And the other is small and cozy like a well-kept garden plot. It was very comfortable ..
      1. Weigher
        Weigher April 19 2014 09: 26
        +5
        Quote: Humpty
        .Daughter surprised:
        -How not ours?

        It will be yours soon! wink
  9. Horde
    Horde April 19 2014 07: 19
    -9
    Guys, and the Crimeans did not show off, they did not record themselves in the "Russian-speaking Ukrainians". After all, everyone has their own choice. If you want to be Ukrainians, accept the current Kiev authorities. Real Ukrainians from Galicia are now commanding there. For them, you are not Ukrainians at all, and they will never accept you as Ukrainians, whatever you write in your passports. You are for them - I’m a Nazi face, life’s.


    the article is harmful, residents of the DONETCHINS and most of the southeast-RUSSIANS want to RUSSIA, and why Putin turned his back on these Russian people? Waiting for a referendum? but there is a danger that the elections will be DEMOCRATIC, that is. those who are in power will win, it is necessary for the president of the Russian state to support the Russians and remember that UKRAINE is just an AUSTRIAN-CONNEMEN LENIN PROJECT, and these lands have always been RUSSIAN, so you need to take OUR lands, and who doubts whether he is Russian or Ukrainian, how the Ukrainians came from. Project UKRAINE TIME TO CLOSE.
    1. sv68
      sv68 April 19 2014 07: 42
      +12
      again twenty five. hordes, explain why the article is harmful and for whom? further down the list, Putin turned his back on you, go around him on the other side and see the face of the president. soft spot, wait for it to roll out. and in my opinion, the article obsolyutno correctly describes the state of affairs in the question - who are the Russians
      1. Horde
        Horde April 19 2014 07: 51
        -7
        Quote: sv68
        and ukroine-well, not ready people will return home n


        Well, let's see why these Russians are NOT READY to return to RUSSIA? because you so want? or Putin? tell me ...
        1. Egoza
          Egoza April 19 2014 08: 57
          +8
          Quote: Horde

          Well, let's see why these Russians are NOT READY to return to RUSSIA?

          Not ready to return to Russia, mainly because it is not the USSR!
          Our most important argument is that "there are few of our own oligarchs, they will also put Russian oligarchs on our necks. The rich will sort it out among themselves, and the people will suffer under double oppression." If there were no capitalism, they would return with a dear soul.
          1. Horde
            Horde April 19 2014 09: 21
            -2
            Quote: Egoza
            Not ready to return to Russia, mainly because it is not the USSR!


            casuistry, some kind of Russian in Russia is impossible because the country is called RUSSIA? and who can, the Jews, the Kyrgyz? can they be in RUSSIA? Yes, you are just an enemy of the Russian people then, I hope you just said stupidity ...

            Quote: Egoza
            Our most important argument is that "there are few of our own oligarchs, they will also put Russian oligarchs on our necks. The rich will sort it out among themselves, and the people will suffer under double oppression."


            are you a quote pulled on behalf of the type of Russian-Ukrainians? you, as a clearer thought, state, first ALL OUR Oligarchs are of the Russian type, all are not Russian, but Jews and all kinds of Jews, and secondly FORCED UKRAINESIZATION with a ban on speaking Russian is the GENOCIDE OF THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE, so go to THIS RUSSIA for Russia A LESSER EVIL than to remain under the rule of Bandera and Putin must understand this, but he is pretending to be something ...


            Quote: Egoza
            There would be no capitalism - so with a dear soul would return.


            if, yes, if you need to accept realities as they are ...
            1. mark7
              mark7 April 19 2014 16: 52
              -1
              Quote: Horde
              Quote: Egoza
              Not ready to return to Russia, mainly because it is not the USSR!

              Dear Elena, there’s not much else here, RUSSIA simply won’t pull economically. UKRAINE will not be able to provide social guarantees to so many millions of people, one said before the central tank, then the Russian Federation will fall apart in three years, that's all
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          3. siberalt
            siberalt April 19 2014 16: 40
            +1
            Egoza, everything to the point! Here "roofs" are different by name, but essentially the same. They will derban both yours and ours with double zeal.
    2. andj61
      andj61 April 19 2014 09: 12
      +7
      Guys, wait a bit! Do not be disappointed ahead of time. You have not really organized yet, Putin has his own global problems and foreign policy maneuvers.
      You are our brothers, we are one people, and we will still be together.
      1. DeOS78RU
        DeOS78RU April 19 2014 10: 28
        0
        That's it. The party is not over yet. To summarize early.
    3. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker April 19 2014 11: 09
      +5
      Quote: Horde
      the article is harmful, residents of the DONETCHINS and most of the southeast-RUSSIANS want to RUSSIA, and why Putin turned his back on these Russian people? Waiting for a referendum?

      Gapon and Azef in one bottle ...
    4. grandfather_Kostya
      grandfather_Kostya April 20 2014 00: 05
      +1
      Even before the start of active unrest in Donbass, I called my cousin (he lives in the Donetsk region) and from the first words felt his confusion: "I read your Russian media, one lies, and Putin collected 40000 troops near the border ...". For an hour and a half, they argued over who was lying more, who to believe, who did not. And to imagine that in such a situation ours will indeed break into YUVU with the best intentions, I will immediately become an occupier 100% in his eyes.
  10. slovak007
    slovak007 April 19 2014 07: 20
    +2
    And they switch to Ukrainian only when it is NECESSARY.

    When necessary, we also switch to Russian, only to non-censored Russian ...
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru April 19 2014 07: 33
      +8
      Quote: slovak007
      And they switch to Ukrainian only when it is NECESSARY.
      When necessary, we also switch to Russian, only to non-censored Russian ..

      I remember an article (newspaper) more than 10 years ago about some Ukrainian-Latvian-Georgian meeting on the problems of fighting Russia. So the correspondent gave a joke that all these "fighters" against totalitarianism communicated in Russian. Even in such a negative example, the Russian language UNITES!
  11. free
    free April 19 2014 07: 25
    +4
    Russian is a special attitude, different from others, the concept of justice, kindness, relations between people, etc.,and if it's easier this state of mind, because another foreigner is real Russian, and another Russian (according to the passport) is completely different from Russian,Have you noticed?RUSSIAN IS RUSSIAN SOUL!
    1. koshh
      koshh April 19 2014 08: 49
      +8
      I note that other peoples do not have such a soul, and sometimes they simply do not. And this is not a mentality. Russians have a concept - the soul of the Russian people, but other peoples simply don’t. Have you ever heard of the soul of the American people? Me not. They have no such thing. And all those who consider themselves Russian absorb a part of the soul of the Russian people and, in our unity, the Russian spirit, we have no equal. And this is not Russophobia - this is life.
      1. free
        free April 19 2014 12: 11
        +2
        Quote: koshh
        I note that other peoples do not have such a soul, and sometimes they simply do not. And this is not a mentality. Russians have a concept - the soul of the Russian people, but other peoples simply don’t. Have you ever heard of the soul of the American people? Me not. They have no such thing. And all those who consider themselves Russian absorb a part of the soul of the Russian people and, in our unity, the Russian spirit, we have no equal. And this is not Russophobia - this is life.


        Americans have an ass instead of a soul, they save assholes, and we are souls!
  12. Quantum
    Quantum April 19 2014 07: 29
    +7
    Of course, Russian is a special mentality. How many faithful were there in Russia
    sons who proudly called themselves Russian, although they were of a different nationality. Yes, now, whether you are a Chechen or a Chukchi, you are still
    Russian! How many problems could be avoided if, in the 17th century, everyone was called Russian. In the family, in the area of ​​compact residence
    a separate nation - speak your native language, no problem! Russian language, language
    informational, civilizational language. Yes and very difficult to perceive on
    Ukrainian: will I fall, pierced by an arrow, or will she fly past? Try to transfer to ukromova -will get harsh! As an expression of the people
    humor - Ukrainian, very expressive. At the beginning of the 20th century, Ukrainian
    more than 90% of Russian people understood the language, Kotsyubinsky wrote well about this.
    Later, the whole Ukrainian language was beaten by Polish-Austrian words, it is a foreign language for the Ukrainians themselves, therefore they speak Russian.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza April 19 2014 09: 02
      +7
      Quote: Quantum
      Later, the whole Ukrainian language was beaten by Polish-Austrian words, it is a foreign language for the Ukrainians themselves, therefore they speak Russian.

      During the years of "nezalezhnosti" all those born in Ukraine were recorded as Ukrainians. And they began to instill this in children from kindergarten. Hence the bias.
      Add also the fact that the census was carried out when Ukrainization had already begun. I remembered for all my life how the census taker who came to my statement that I was Russian and my children were Russian, asked: "Aren't you afraid?" This is how short and clear what these scribes went about. Well, maybe that's why not everyone had the spirit to answer differently.
      1. I read the news
        I read the news April 19 2014 10: 19
        0
        census question:
        - Did you learn Ukrainian at school?
        - Yes
        (writes nationality) Ukrainian
  13. Barakuda
    Barakuda April 19 2014 07: 38
    +6
    "Even if I were a Negro of advanced years, and even then without a smile and laziness, I would have learned Russian just for what Lenin spoke to them!"
    I hung a poster in the office of the Russian language. It is a pity that there is no such office.
  14. Pastor
    Pastor April 19 2014 07: 38
    +5
    everything is correctly said .. for us, for example, on the Don there lives a people who have several nationalities in their blood, we are RUSSIAN
  15. kind
    kind April 19 2014 07: 42
    +3
    Soon it will be fashionable to know Russian in the world! wink
    1. kocclissi
      kocclissi April 19 2014 10: 28
      +2
      Quote: Good
      Soon it will be fashionable to know Russian in the world!

      The Chinese are already singing songs in Russian:
  16. 020205
    020205 April 19 2014 07: 42
    +4
    The article is good, the author of the rights at the last census appeared such a nationality as Sibiryak, but this is not because we decided to stand out somehow, but just don’t know what nationality we belong to, there are Armenian-Russian, Buryat-Russian, German-Buryat (don’t laugh when you see the Buryats in appearance with the surname Ludwig) and many others, it turns out that they are not Russians in the usual sense, but everyone speaks Russian. Like Zadornov, those who speak Russian and think Russian. and there is. Well, ma-Askvichs really do not like us)))
    1. kush62
      kush62 April 19 2014 08: 47
      +3
      Like Zadornov, those who speak Russian and think Russian. The most Russians are. Well, we really don’t like ma-Askvichs)))

      This is what Dahl said (compiler of the dictionary) When he was reproached for being of German blood.
  17. Vadim12
    Vadim12 April 19 2014 07: 43
    +7
    I am not Russian, but Russian. Now
    I say, free and strong:
    I grew like a green oak on top,
    I have drunk the water of Russian rivers.

    I have the right to be proud of my life -
    We have one fate given to the Russians.
    Four centuries in exploits and glory
    Our tribes intertwined with their roots.

    Moscow has long been my voice of friendship hearing
    Responded, full of strength.
    And the Russian brother - what is in the world above! -
    Connected with my fate.

    I am not Russian, but Russian. Be called
    So forever, my soul, be proud!
    Give five lives! They can equal
    My fate is the only life.

    Russian with Bashkir - satellites on the road,
    Eateries - since the mash is on the table,
    Companions - on military alert,
    Forever somogilniki - in the ground.

    When they kissed like two brothers
    With the mighty Pugachev Salavat,
    In your soul that is rich in friendship
    Increased love, my Russian brother.

    Mustay Karim (source: http://f13.ucoz.net/publ/6-1-0-29)
  18. Barakuda
    Barakuda April 19 2014 07: 54
    +11
    Great-grandfather rushed from Solovki to Siberia, great-grandmother from Bellarus to the same place, in Kharkov a street with "my" surname, grandfather organized huts on the Yenisei with an ax, another in the Black Sea Fleet, father was born in Ordzhonikidze, mother was in Krasnoyaski Krai, I live half my life in Ukraine.
    AND WHO AM I? RUSSIAN!
  19. valentina-makanalina
    valentina-makanalina April 19 2014 08: 00
    +10
    In my declining years, I began to sort out who I am by nationality. Found its roots and was surprised. How much different blood is mixed in me and my children. Starting from the 17th century (in increasing order): Italians, Greeks, Poles, Ukrainians, Kazakhs, Germans, Russians. But I consider myself and the children RUSSIAN! And proud of it.
  20. Barakuda
    Barakuda April 19 2014 08: 04
    +1
    Quote: Good
    Soon it will be fashionable to know Russian in the world! wink

    Already fashionable. especially in China, Germany and Britain.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza April 19 2014 09: 05
      +1
      Quote: Barracuda
      Already fashionable. especially in China, Germany and Britain.

      And in New York, Russian is the official language! That's where Ukraine needs to take an example!
    2. Native grandfather
      Native grandfather April 19 2014 10: 34
      0
      Quote: Barracuda
      Already fashionable. especially in China, Germany and Britain.

      In China, the Russian language is not fashionable, but profitable. And then just no further than Harbin from the border. Closer to Beijing, English is more in priority. But still, it’s easier to learn Russian Chinese than Chinese Chinese.
  21. Barakuda
    Barakuda April 19 2014 08: 10
    +3
    But I have a friend, he thinks that he is Ukrainian with a sonorous surname Fitingof! Even the heroic ancestors did not study history.
  22. Dyatko Nebatko
    Dyatko Nebatko April 19 2014 08: 12
    +1
    +100500 I am so proud of myself and consider myself RUSSIAN! Although in adjective form
  23. Denis Tatar
    Denis Tatar April 19 2014 08: 12
    -1
    everything is correctly and interestingly written, here is an addition from Wasserman http://www.svarogday.com/ukrainskij-yazyk-ili-dialekt/, everything is laid out on shelves.
    1. andj61
      andj61 April 19 2014 09: 27
      0
      Thanks for the link. Really interesting. I myself am from the Bryansk region, the border of the three republics. In the village where my grandmother lived, back in the 70s they spoke a wild mixture of three languages, considering themselves, of course, Russian. My great-grandfather, who was born in the 19th century, when asked who we are by ethnicity, Russians, Ukrainians or Belarusians, answered that we are Orthodox Russians, and almost every village speaks its own way. My surname is Ukrainian, and none of my ancestors was ever written by a Ukrainian. Great-grandfather on the estate of the Cossack, Zaporizhzhya, of course, the Starodub regiment. But next to the Cossacks, in the neighboring villages, ordinary peasants, once formerly serfs, also lived.
      I believe that we are all Russian, including Wasserman.
  24. serge
    serge April 19 2014 08: 12
    +5
    "He almost drove me crazy, proving to me that I was not."

    ("The Master and Margarita")
  25. bronik
    bronik April 19 2014 08: 14
    +4
    The American Gallup Institute in 2008 conducted a survey in which residents of Ukraine were asked to fill out a questionnaire. The forms were in two languages ​​- Russian and Ukrainian. You’ll laugh - 83% of Ukrainian citizens surveyed chose a questionnaire in RUSSIAN.

    We are used to feeling like brothers with Ukrainians - and this is a good habit. We can’t fight each other, it’s kind of incest.A Right SSector and Galichina speak and think not in Russian or even in Ukrainian, and their ideas are not human at all - rather from a rabid beast.
  26. Russian20
    Russian20 April 19 2014 08: 21
    +4
    Russian is not a nationality, but a state of mind!
    1. koshh
      koshh April 19 2014 08: 58
      +2
      Quote: Russian20
      Russian is not a nationality, but a state of mind!

      Only Russians have a division into soul and health, only Russians can the soul hurt: "The soul hurts, but the heart cries ..." These words were written by the poet Eugenia Knight. Not Russian by name, but Russian in spirit.
  27. individual
    individual April 19 2014 08: 28
    +6
    There is such an international nationality - cosmopolitan they have a homeland where the ass is warm.
    How to name people with two, three citizenships, no one accuses them, so they hide their social vice, and the vice consists in adaptation at the expense of others, to live for free
    1. igordok
      igordok April 19 2014 09: 21
      +12
      Quote: individ
      There is such an international nationality - cosmopolitan is their homeland where the ass is warm.

      At the station of Simferopol
    2. 225chay
      225chay April 19 2014 15: 24
      +1
      There are such! and they are full. especially in government.
      and generally closer to the feeder ..
  28. sanek0207
    sanek0207 April 19 2014 08: 32
    +6
    According to my grandmother’s line (she’s 89 today), they came from the farm Osadchy, Voronezh province, grandfathers ancestors came to the Kuban together with the RUSSIAN VOYSKY 210 years ago, my mother is a Jew from Ulyanovsk (my father studied in the Ulyanovsk tank) who am I? My half son, half Volga German, I serve in the army on a contract basis. I, RUSSIAN, AND MY SON, RUSSIAN, AND WE ARE Proud of THIS! RUSSIA - OUR MOTHER!
    1. kiril1246
      kiril1246 20 September 2018 00: 10
      0
      Quote: sanek0207
      my mother is Jewish

      You are a Jew brought up in a non-Jewish environment. There are a lot of such unfortunately.
  29. demotivator
    demotivator April 19 2014 08: 33
    +3
    Quote: Horde
    article is harmful,

    And her name is offensive, for me, at least -
    No such nationality - Russians

    And who am I then, my children and grandchildren?
    1. Horde
      Horde April 19 2014 09: 02
      +2
      Quote: demotivator
      Quote: Horde
      article is harmful,
      And her name is offensive, for me, at least -
      No such nationality - Russians
      And who am I then, my children and grandchildren?


      to remain Russian is to observe both moral and physical purity, restrain one’s animal passions and inclinations, love one’s people, one’s mores and customs, observe one’s principles, then our people will remain the most beautiful, harmonious and, as a result, the most HUMAN.
  30. pensioner
    pensioner April 19 2014 08: 45
    +1
    President Kuchma has been writing a book for 10 years entitled “Ukraine is not Russia.” I read it, laughed for a long time. The whole book is devoted to the search for differences between Ukrainians and Russians. 560 pages of agonizing searches!

    Must read ...
  31. AlexA
    AlexA April 19 2014 08: 46
    +3
    Amazing clarity of thought and the hardness of its presentation. With respect to all dissenters, without national swagger and, at the same time, with confidence in their rightness. I share completely. Respect, Yuri.
  32. Gardamir
    Gardamir April 19 2014 08: 48
    +2
    Unfortunately, the widest Ukrainians live in eastern Ukraine. In Ukrainian, no boom-boom. but it is they who scream most of all that Russia is capturing them.
    And by the way, it seems to me that many Ukrainians on the passport have Russian father and mother.
    1. vst6
      vst6 April 19 2014 11: 05
      +2
      And you’re right, our friends are in Berdyansk, he and Voronezh, after Kursk after graduating from the institute for distribution to Ukraine, have now fallen against Russia so they open their mouths so that we trample their Ukraine with a dirty boot that shuts any belly. Although over 30 years of life in Ukraine, they did not learn the language.
  33. aviamed90
    aviamed90 April 19 2014 08: 51
    +4
    Wonderful article.

    The topic is extensive, but in the article it is compactly and accessible disclosed.

    Russian by blood and Russian by spirit, place of birth, place of residence or language are not the same thing.

    For example, I was born in Poland, half Kuban Cossack and half Russian by blood (I didn’t particularly climb into the wilds of the genealogy, because surprises are possible). 20 years lived in Ukraine. Now I live in Russia and speak Russian.
    And I consider myself a Russian.

    Or maybe I am a Ukrainian or, God forbid, a Pole?
    Or, since I lived in Germany for some time, am I German?
  34. demotivator
    demotivator April 19 2014 08: 51
    +4
    That is why this people is strong ...

    For some, OUR people are THIS people and OUR country is THIS country. You can understand if it is written by an outsider of Russia and a Russian person, such as Novodvorskaya, or Pozner. These, at least, do not dissemble. Here, for example, Posner once said:
    "I am not a Russian, this is not my Motherland, I did not grow up here, I do not feel completely at home here."
    ... And for a person who considers himself Russian, it is somehow not very good to talk about his people "this people".
  35. Boralex63
    Boralex63 April 19 2014 08: 59
    +5
    Inhabitants of the Southeast are offended - And what does Russia not help us ?! And who to help then ?! If a thousand nationalists, the millionth of Donetsk, almost puts cancer ?! Damn ... As in a joke - I invited the godfather to my house to visit the farm. He arrived in the evening, walking along the street - there is no one, silence. He sees: in each wicker fence a round hole was neatly done, and in it the ass was sticking out. He came closer - the bony ass, hairy, in short, male. The visitor godfather was even more surprised.
    He approaches the hut Kuma - there, too, ass sticks out. He opens the gate and sees: the godfather is bent over, he lowered his socks.
    - Why are you shy, godfather?
    - Quiet! At the farm pidor having appeared. On live bait ...
    1. nika407
      nika407 April 21 2014 13: 15
      0
      Quote: Boralex63
      And who to help then ?! If a thousand nationalists, the millionth of Donetsk, almost puts cancer ?!

      Yesterday I watch the news, show Kharkov. Kharkov is the city of the twin of my native Novosibirsk, a city with a population of one and a half million. In addition, a day off. 300-400 supporters of federalization stand. So the rest doesn’t need to, are they all happy?
  36. blizart
    blizart April 19 2014 08: 59
    +3
    Baba Ganya (Anya) from the capital city of Lviv lives next to me in the Kazakh hinterland, lives in Kazakhstan since 1954, has not studied not only Kazakh, but also Russian, and has not been understood for all the years.
    1. aviamed90
      aviamed90 April 19 2014 09: 11
      0
      blizart

      I sympathize with the woman Gale.

      Is it in some language "bursting, not understood"?
      In Ukrainian? Or in the dialect spoken in Zapadenshchina?

      Someone on the site rightly remarked that in the western regions of Ukraine they do not speak Ukrainian, and on a vigorous mixture of Ukrainian, Polish, Hungarian, German, God knows what else.

      And in eastern Ukraine - more and more in Russian and surzhik.

      And the point is not in the language. The main thing is that the person be good.
      And the nationality of Baba Gali is determined as she herself defines it. Ukrainian, gutsulka, Rusyka, Russian, Polish, or someone else. Yes, even a Jewess (this also should not be discarded).
      1. blizart
        blizart April 19 2014 09: 37
        +2
        In Western
        1. aviamed90
          aviamed90 April 19 2014 09: 54
          +1
          blizart

          Aha

          I myself know how to indulge, because I come from the Kuban.

          But there was once (back in the days of the USSR in 90) in Ivano-Frankivsk region on a business trip. I tried to show my knowledge of the language there. So they even refused to pour me beer ...

          It was very disgusting. And it’s a shame for the Ukrainians (most of which are Hutsuls there).

          And without beer, too, was uncomfortable.

          In fairness, it is worth noting that Ukrainians are fluent in the Russian language (with rare exceptions), but speak it exclusively if it is beneficial and necessary for them.
  37. jekasimf
    jekasimf April 19 2014 08: 59
    +7
    People. Jokes - as jokes. But I come to the conclusion that the most Russian and most patriots of Russia are Crimeans. (Without the Tatars, of course). For 23 of the year we kept Russian identity in ourselves, resisted Oh ... Ukrainization. Yes, in Russia people more, hating Russia! And ashamed of his kinship. Than in the Crimea !!!
  38. 1536
    1536 April 19 2014 09: 04
    -2
    Ukraine entered the Russian Slavic world with a Trojan horse in the XNUMXst century, as a result of which we got instability on our western borders and millions of people who were hostile to us. They are trying to impose on us their values ​​and a language that can supposedly "learn in a week." This is a derivative of the CIA experiments in their linguistic centers and of the street fighting on the Odessa import with a characteristic intonation, it is difficult to call Shevchenko and Gogol the Ukrainian language, to whose melodies we have been accustomed since childhood. This article is a pitiful way of opposing the Russians to the Russians again, declaring them to be fragmented ethnic groups that have nothing in common with each other. In short, "the province went to write."
  39. andj61
    andj61 April 19 2014 09: 05
    +5
    Quote: Horde
    Quote: M.Pyotr
    In 1945, it seems, some of these "white people" were brought to their senses, apparently they will have to educate someone else.



    What do you dislike about white-Russian people? or do you want the Russians to be like the Jews?


    No, I don’t want EVERYTHING to be like Jews, but 70 percent of Russians are with dark (but not black) hair. In addition, geneticists noted that among Europeans, fair hair was observed in groups that were genetically closed for several centuries.
    In addition, Russian is a state of mind. I have Kazakh friends and are drilling, but, in my opinion, they are real Russians. The Tver Karelian, Kazan Tatar, Chuvash and Mordvin, a Jew - all become nothing other than Russians, all you have to do is cross the border. And among the Jews I met almost blondes. I believe that Russians of all nationalities now more than ever need unity.
    1. Horde
      Horde April 19 2014 09: 50
      -2
      Quote: andj61
      No, I don’t want EVERYTHING to be like Jews, but 70 percent of Russians are just dark


      this is called RUSSIAN HAIR, but non-Russians also have brown hair ...

      Quote: andj61
      In addition, Russian is a state of mind. I have Kazakh friends and are drilling, but, in my opinion, they are real Russians. The Tver Karelian, Kazan Tatar, Chuvash and Mordvin, a Jew - all become none other than Russians, one has only to cross the border.


      no need to drive if a person is given (called) a different nationality, like a UKRAINIAN, then he will come up with his CULTURE and HISTORY to become a UKRAINIAN, although in fact he is Russian, as for the Kazakh is Russian, it’s just stupidity, Kazakh can not be Russian NEVER there are too many differences both externally and in consciousness. I myself am from Kyrgyzstan and I know that the meaning of any small nation is SURVIVAL, therefore in the USSR small peoples tried to climb on the head of the Russian people and LEAD, and the Russians, of course, had to work. As for "Kazakhs will be Russians across the border", all these migrant workers are also nonsense now DO NOT WANT TO ASSIMILATE i.e. accept Russian culture, but live apart and communicate in their own language ...





      Quote: andj61
      Yes, and among the Jews I met almost blondes


      Jews, even the blondes, will still remain JEWS and will not become Russian, and these are not words, even mixed ones still carry UNUSTAINABLE JEWISH SIGNS ...

  40. Cristall
    Cristall April 19 2014 09: 15
    +4
    when from childhood you are instilled with "uniqueness" from a "neighbor" - you remember it.
    Textbook of Ukrainian History (Zroblenno in Hollywood) - he is so ...
    If from childhood they instill globalism as in the USSR, which is huge, and there are many peoples with one idea, even though they live in different republics, this is pride. When there is something to be proud of, it's generally good. Here is a textbook on the history of Ukraine and invents only "Ukrainian" pride. Globally, he does not knit bast ... "khataskraynost" instills. But don't go into the hut ... Ukraine is here.
    It is strange, but under the USSR I was proud that I was Ukrainian because it is all the same identically - a Soviet person. And now there is no past pride.
    And abroad, I still Russian
  41. rkkasa xnumx
    rkkasa xnumx April 19 2014 09: 15
    +2
    I didn’t understand why the author added such a nice picture to his article?
  42. shezar
    shezar April 19 2014 09: 21
    +10
    The article is largely correct, but one gets the impression that many correct things were written only in order to "shove" the unnatural idea that there are no Russians! They say Russians are an adjective and do not care whether your ancestors were mostly the people who built Russia or not, the main thing is to be a person of Russian culture. It goes without saying that a person of a different nationality can join Russian culture and become a part of the Russian world, but one should not forget that the basis, the center is the Russian people, which is the bearer of Russian culture. Do you really think that the "blood" factor does not play any role? Each nation develops in certain natural conditions, each nation has its own historical fate, do you think that it is possible to replace those who have all Russian battles and victories in their genes, blood, those who are the direct descendants of those people who have been building something for a thousand years, what is now called Russia for people who originally belonged to other cultures and do not have a blood, genetic connection with the original population of Russia and there is nothing to change? Again they are trying to fool the Russian people, they are trying to explain to us that we do not exist because we have destroyed the Hitler and his henchmen! I want to remind you that in Barbaros's plan it was spelled out as a separate clause not to allow the creation of a Russian national state. We can also look at historical examples, what happened to Rome when everyone was given citizenship and started to be considered Romans? Wasn't multicultural Byzantium shaken by constant interethnic conflicts? Hitler was really wrong, the factor of culture and stereotypes of behavior also plays a role, indeed a person from another culture and with other genes can join another culture, become a part of this culture. But to deny the factor of blood is also not correct, it is the Russian ethnos that is the bearer of Russian culture , as a biological, blood heir of the population of Russia, the Moscow state and the Russian Empire, it is in his genes that every year of the history of Russia is "burned out", every event that made us us and say that all this does not mean anything is a betrayal of ourselves. People who take such a position should be aware that this is an anti-popular and anti-state position, which leads to the "erosion" and destruction of the Russians as a nation, to the loss of the historical heritage. Do you really think that if assimilated and Russified, Caucasians and Central Asians are put in place of the Russians, then something will remain of Russia? The criminality and stupidity of this view aggravates the fact that the Russians now have an extremely low birth rate, unlike our "brotherly peoples" if this paradigm is not broken, if we allow us to convince us that we do not exist, then you can forget about the Russian world and about the Russian future ..
    1. Shum86
      Shum86 April 19 2014 09: 58
      +3
      that’s what I wanted to say !!! well done! and then everyone started singing around: there are none, this is a state of mind, etc., maybe you are a state of mind, but we are, we are Russians, and God is with us !!!
      1. s1н7т
        s1н7т April 19 2014 18: 08
        -4
        Quote: Shum86
        we are, we are Russian, and God is with us

        There is no God, if anything, miserable! True Russia is generally lingual. It was the Christians who copied it to Russia. Well, religion in the 21st century is nonsense! This is how the brains should dry! fool
        1. Horde
          Horde April 19 2014 18: 25
          0
          Quote: c1n7
          There is no God, if anything, miserable! True Russia is generally lingual


          How do you know things? just because god did not meet with you? try to blaspheme the gentlemen and meet ... with the devil ...
        2. Was mammoth
          Was mammoth April 19 2014 18: 34
          0
          Once upon a time, as a 10-12-year-old boy, I had conversations with my semi-literate believing grandmother, 90 years old, about the fact that there is no God. Like "how can you create first day and night, and then the sun? ...". For that I am ashamed now. Why? Think about it. Today I took my mother, 95 years old, to church. You can of course be an atheist. Or a pagan. Your right. However, [/ quote]
          There is no God, if anything, miserable! This is how the brains should dry! fool[/ Quote]
    2. aviamed90
      aviamed90 April 19 2014 10: 06
      -1
      shezar

      "Do you think that the blood factor does not play any role?"

      It certainly plays.
      But not only he is an identifier of Russianness.

      It’s just that the author reminds us that there are quite a lot of people with mixed blood.

      What do you call them? Russian? Tatars? Ukrainians?

      I myself am one of those. And my wife is mixed with Ukrainian, Hungarian, Gypsy and Jewish blood.
      Who are we by nationality, i.e. by blood? And our children of what nationality?

      Or people like us are not taken into account? And the "astronauts"?

      But we are not Nazis to fanatically fight for the purity of the nation. Yes, and why?
      Mixed marriages have always been.

      So, of course, there are Russian people, and mixed marriages also have a place to be.

      What do you call a man whose mother is Russian and dad is black? Russian? Or a Somali?
      1. aviamed90
        aviamed90 April 19 2014 10: 49
        0
        Past

        Let me recommend you take an interest in your own genealogy.

        You will be very surprised!
      2. Native grandfather
        Native grandfather April 19 2014 11: 35
        +2
        Quote: aviamed90
        What do you call a man whose mother is Russian and dad is black? Russian? Or a Somali?

        And if you put a body on a tractor chassis from a convertible, then do you think it will be a convertible SUV? SchA! Tractor, he is in Africa TRACTOR! Like a black man, never be Russian. How to check? Bring the Russian-speaking mulatto child to his Russian peers. And listen, look. After meeting the first question will be about his nationality. And never a mulatto child can prove to his peers that he is Russian. Moreover, they can be bosom friends.
        1. aviamed90
          aviamed90 April 19 2014 12: 11
          +1
          Native grandfather

          Alexander Sergeyevich Pushkin did not think so.

          So, in such cases, it is not blood that matters, but the upbringing and state of mind.

          And if the mulatto guy speaks Russian, thinks in Russian and considers Russia his homeland, then he is certainly Russian.

          And if not, then - a Somali.
          1. Native grandfather
            Native grandfather April 19 2014 12: 42
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            Quote: aviamed90
            Alexander Sergeyevich Pushkin did not think so.

            But what has Pushkin to do with it? An adult speaks as he thinks is right. But "the mouth of a baby speaks the truth." I had a Chinese friend at school (we learned his nationality after school). He spoke Russian no worse than you and me. And his face was not entirely Chinese. So, slightly Asian. We were friends, everyone was friends. And who does not give a fuck about any nation, the main thing is that "they do not throw a stone at you." But how exactly Russian we did not perceive him, despite his Russian name. But there is also the opposite situation. One Russian child among the ethnic minorities. As a rule, they spread rot on him there. Although he lives among them, studies, they play in the same yard. He is immediately identified that he is Russian, and by this he is reproached and humiliated.
            So ... whatever Comrade Pushkin would think and say, but you can’t argue against blood.
            1. aviamed90
              aviamed90 April 19 2014 13: 02
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              Native grandfather

              Oh well.

              In your opinion, the Russians consider Pushkin arap (Negro).

              Have you thought about who, in this case, should Pushkin consider these same Araps? Not?
              Russian.

              For the same reason - by blood.

              However, the opposite is true.

              Pushkin is a great RUSSIAN poet.
              And the blacks consider him a great AFRICAN poet.

              And whoever calls whom or what spreads words in the sandbox, school or other places does not matter.
    3. mark7
      mark7 April 19 2014 17: 16
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      Quote: shezar
      But deny the blood factor

      Well done, I agree one hundred percent, you can’t deceive genetics with any verbiage
  43. ed65b
    ed65b April 19 2014 09: 28
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    And we also have a special gene that breaks down vodka and we are not afraid of alcoholism laughing so don’t sing us a busman. laughing drinks
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  45. demotivator
    demotivator April 19 2014 09: 31
    +2
    Quote: andj61
    And among the Jews I met almost blondes.

    The last of the three, in this photo, has long been considered a "purebred Aryan", but in fact was an ordinary Werner Goldberg.
  46. HAM
    HAM April 19 2014 09: 34
    +3
    quote: "In the Kuban, I, a visitor, went through the" eat ", and the locals were all" Cossacks "!


    It’s interesting what kind of author Kuban was in, I live in Kuban for more than 50 years, but I haven’t heard such words. Paradox .. Stupidity.
    1. aviamed90
      aviamed90 April 19 2014 09: 36
      +1
      HAM

      I support you.
  47. HAM
    HAM April 19 2014 09: 35
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    quote: "In the Kuban, I, a visitor, went through the" eat ", and the locals were all" Cossacks "!


    It’s interesting what kind of author Kuban was in, I live in Kuban for more than 50 years, but I haven’t heard such words. Paradox .. Stupidity.
  48. alexdol
    alexdol April 19 2014 09: 37
    +2
    "If you want to be Ukrainians, accept the current Kiev government. Real Ukrainians from Galicia are now in command there."

    I would like to object to the author. Where did he see the "UKRAINIANS" in the ranks of the Kiev JUNTA? It would be more correct to say that today 1917 is repeating itself, when in all power structures there were mainly Zh.I.D.Y !!! So the power in NENKA has not been "Ukrainian" for a long time, here it is also necessary to take into account that there were more than 50 percent of these eternal "Gevolutsioners" in the Verkhovna Rada ...
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt April 19 2014 10: 04
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      The Ukrainians, as an "ethnos", were invented by the Poles in the 19th century from the Little Russians. And with regards to the fact that Russians are an adjective, I completely agree with the author. Russians are not a nationality, but a civilization-forming backbone of the people. We were not asked who is "you", but whose "you" will be. The answer was - Russian "We", not "I". If you want to be Russian, be it resonates with someone else, if you want to be happy, be it.
    3. razv35
      razv35 April 19 2014 10: 11
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      Zh. I. D. Y in clinics, they carry out the most complicated operations, they bring people back to life, and there are enough different bastards everywhere.
      1. nika407
        nika407 April 21 2014 13: 34
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        Quote: razv35
        Zh. I. D. Y in clinics, they carry out the most complicated operations, they bring people back to life, and there are enough different bastards everywhere.
        These are Jewish scientists, doctors, ... all who honestly work and live for the good of the people. And the Kiev junta is exactly w and d s.
  49. Semurg
    Semurg April 19 2014 09: 38
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    Russification (assimilation) is a lengthy process, and at the moment the Russians for me consist of both the actual Russians and those who consider themselves Russian without being such by blood or mestizo. And whoever wants to divide Russians into purely Russian by blood and who recognize themselves as Russian make a mistake by refusing non-Russian by blood to be Russian. In the Republic of Kazakhstan, I noticed such a feature that the most ardent defenders of Russians are Russian-speaking (asphalt) Kazakhs, though the reverse process is going on, the children and grandchildren of asphalt Kazakhs again become Kazakhs (at least in the south of Kazakhstan). By the way, with the union, almost all children from mixed marriages (Russians + Belarus, Ukrainian, Tatars, Kazakhs, etc.) more often considered themselves Russian, or at least felt Russian, now the situation is changing. This is probably due to the dominant nation, it is easier for children from mixed marriages to adapt to life as a representative of the dominant (titular) nation.
    1. shezar
      shezar April 19 2014 10: 09
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      There is no need to substitute concepts, there is the Russian world, the center of which is the Russian ethnos both spiritually and biologically, and there is a Russian super ethnos which includes many nations that are not necessarily connected by blood with Russians, but share their culture. That is, there are people of Russian culture who need to be valued, respected and considered brothers, and there is the Russian people, the existence of which is the guarantee of the existence of the Russian world, so it is in the interests of all the peoples of the Russian world that the Russian people exist and live if they are gone and Russian culture will not, and all other peoples will return to their "cultural roots". That is, indeed, many nationalities can enter the Russian world, but all of them in one way or another are grouped around the Russian ethnic group, which in essence has an imperial, unifying status. You can draw an analogy with a tree trunk is Russian, the branches are other nationalities. By the way, real Russian nationalism differs from the nationalism of other nationalities of the Russian world, I am not talking about xenopatriots of fans of the loser and hitler adventurer, who for some reason call themselves nationalists, but about real Russian nationalists of the heirs of Suvorov, Dostoevsky, Mendelev, Emperor Alexander III and many others. So Russian nationalism differs from others in that it has a unifying imperial character, and not separatist as the nationalisms of other peoples entering the Russian world. But they are trying to pervert this idea, the idea of ​​the Russian imperial messianism, instead of the idea of ​​rallying many peoples and cultures around, the Russian imperial ethnos and the Russian imperial culture, they are trying to instill in us the idea that Russia should be a "hodgepodge" of rootless people united by only one ideology, But we have already gone through this, what happened to such a community as the Soviet people during the first serious crisis? Correctly it disintegrated, and Russians began to be slaughtered in almost all "fraternal republics". Russia has always been a nationalist state, in the sense that it did not try to erase ethnic borders between peoples and gave them the opportunity to remain themselves, but at the same time be part of the Russian world of Russian culture, but this was possible only because there was a mighty and great Russian people , which stood at the center of this process, guarded other nations and resolved conflicts that arose. And what are the Russians now paying for having saved more than a hundred nationalities? We get paid by trying to convince us that there is no Russian nationality! And as a rule, people do this for purely personal reasons (not Russian relatives or the metis himself), not understanding the destructiveness of their actions, all other nations that are part of the Russian world should understand that when you do this, you cut the branch on which you sit, why you can’t remain who you are but still be part of the Russian world? You definitely need to be more Russian than the Russians themselves and for this to explain to everyone that there are not any Russians? Any Russian person, if you are truly a part of Russian culture, will consider you brothers, not blood brothers, but at least cousins! Isn't that enough for you? Is the destruction of the Russian people, the Russian world, and your peoples, too, an adequate price for saying that you are the most Russian, despite your non-Russian origin?
    2. Alibekulu
      Alibekulu April 19 2014 10: 13
      +4
      Quote: Semurg
      Kazakhs, however, the process is reversed children and grandchildren of asphalt Kazakhs again become Kazakhs (at least in the south of Kazakhstan).
      As a child I remember a phrase said in the family of the Nagashi (mother's brother) and which caused a resonance and condemnation among ours: "Come on, these Kazakhs!?!" belay
      And the family from all sides is Kazakh .. True, the Kazakhs, somehow shunned and were more with the Russians ..
      Interestingly, a peculiar indicator of ethnicity has become what they are cutting ..
      I remember that the elders caused gossip because, for example, they chopped the bird with an ax, and did not cut it with a knife. Those. an ax - somehow not in Kazakh.
      I also remember that there was a case: Kazakh carvers overwhelmed the bull with a blow to the neck with an ax, and then quickly hid it so that the old ones would not notice. Otherwise, the old people would have arranged a "debriefing" ..
      By the way, now the son of this nagashi calls, asks about "ru" (clan-clan), zheti ata .. He worked in the police, respectively, the environment is Kazakh and naturally "questions" arise ... The funny thing is, listening to his mother now - I am convinced that a son should marry a Kazakh woman laughing Although most of the Kazakh name, but the name in the passport ..
      1. Semurg
        Semurg April 19 2014 11: 20
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        Quote: Alibekulu
        As a child I remember a phrase said in the family of the Nagashi (mother's brother) and which caused a resonance and condemnation among ours: "Come on, these Kazakhs!?!" belay
        And the family from all sides is Kazakh .. True, the Kazakhs, somehow shunned and were more with the Russians ..
        ..

        Somehow I came across a book in which it was written about Roman cities in what is now France. there it was also written that the local residents of the cities shied away from the local villagers and considered themselves more Romans than Gauls, probably after the collapse of the Roman Empire they returned to their roots remembering that they were Gauls.
  50. buzer
    buzer April 19 2014 09: 40
    +5
    maybe they will mess me up, but correct. The literary Russian language is preserved only in Kazakhstan !!! For they taught us from books, but from Soviet programs ...
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt April 19 2014 10: 19
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      How would it be otherwise? When did the Kazakh written language appear? If you go to the Latin alphabet, you will be tortured to write and read the “hissing” sounds peculiar to Kazakh. Don't make a historical mistake.
      1. Semurg
        Semurg April 19 2014 11: 42
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        Quote: siberalt
        How would it be otherwise? When did the Kazakh written language appear? If you go to the Latin alphabet, you will be tortured to write and read the “hissing” sounds peculiar to Kazakh. Don't make a historical mistake.

        The Kazakh language was first written in Arabic, after the revolution, in order to tear Kazakhstan away from the Muslim world, they were transferred to the Latin alphabet, then frightened by pan-Turkism (Turkey also switched to Latin from Arabic), they were transferred to the Cyrillic alphabet, adding a few letters specific to the Kazakh language. In general, there is experience using Latin letters (my grandfather read in three fonts laughing Arabic-Latin-Cyrillic). This story applies to all the Turks of the former USSR (Kyrgyz, Uzbeks, Azerbaijanis, Kazakhs, Tatars, Bashkirs, etc.). A part of the Türks switched to the Latin alphabet, some are going to, some were told, not figs, to waste money.
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        2. siberalt
          siberalt April 19 2014 16: 48
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          Where are the Arabs and where are the Kazakhs. What are you talking about? Enlightened people wrote in any language. But these were units that no one remembers. The great and almost the only Kazakh enlightener, Abay wrote in Russian. Learn materiel, dear.
          1. Semurg
            Semurg April 19 2014 18: 45
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            Kazakhs are Muslims, and along with religion came Arabians (this is the answer to where the Arabs are and where the Kazakhs are). Enlightened in Kazakh and Central Asia wrote Arabica before the revolution. At the expense of Abai, he generally wrote tin, he knew Russian, but this does not mean that he wrote Kazakh texts in Cyrillic.
          2. Guard
            Guard April 20 2014 06: 58
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            Quote: siberalt
            Where are the Arabs and where are the Kazakhs. What are you talking about?

            Hello, we arrived ... Arabic writing came with Islam. in addition, cultural ties with the Arab-Muslim world were significant, although the Kazakhs did not become ardent followers of the faith.
            Well, and I will shock you - the Kazakhs have a whole family of Arabs, which is called "kozha" ("khoja"). this is a fairly numerous Kazakh clan, which is proud of the fact that they are Kazakhs, but also remember their Arab roots.
            Quote: siberalt
            Enlightened people wrote in any language.
            Few knew the Russian alphabet in the Steppe, but the Arabic script of the Kazakh language could be read by most Kazakhs. It is not necessary to imagine that if the Kazakhs did not understand the Russian language before the revolution, then they were completely savages in torn coats. Kazakhs received a kind of, in a European view, education - in madrasahs, mektebs, in addition, it was normal - when the elders taught the younger ones to read and write (based on the Arabic alphabet). It was impossible to get deep knowledge in this environment, but people knew literacy. It's just a non-Russian letter. By the way, before the revolution, people who did not know Russian writing (even if they knew writing skills in other languages) were considered illiterate. Therefore, all were recorded as "savages".
            Quote: siberalt
            The great and almost the only Kazakh enlightener, Abay wrote in Russian.

            wahahaha)))))) Abay, firstly, not the only enlightener, and secondly, he wrote in KAZAKH! He used the Russian language to communicate with Russians. And all his works are 100% written by him exclusively in the Kazakh language.

            Quote: siberalt
            Learn materiel, dear.
            Ignorance turn off. Then you will begin to teach about materiel.
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      3. Guard
        Guard April 20 2014 06: 45
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        Quote: siberalt
        you get tired of writing and reading the “hissing” sounds peculiar to Kazakh.

        pseudo-linguist)))))))))) there are less hissing sounds in the Kazakh language than in Russian))))
        in addition, the letters B, Ф Φ, X, Һ, C, H, U, B, b, E in original Kazakh words are not used. The letters,, Ч,,,,,,, Ъ,,, Э, are used only in words borrowed from Russian or through Russian that are written in accordance with the rules of Russian spelling.
        So do not confuse your compatriots' brains by telling them stories about the “hissing” Kazakh language, which is supposedly about to sip grief with the Latin alphabet.
        We have specific letters, pronunciation features that are not typical for neighboring languages, but even they are not a problem when transcribing into the Latin alphabet. Moreover, the Latin alphabet is more convenient for Kazakhs than the Cyrillic alphabet. That is why the alphabet was first developed in the Latin alphabet. And only the policy of Russification under Stalin led to the fact that the Latin alphabet was forcibly replaced by the Cyrillic alphabet. And if then it was still possible to put up with the minuses, then in modern technological conditions (and not forgetting that every fourth Kazakh historically lives outside the official territory of Kazakhstan in the adjacent regions of Russia, China, Uzbekistan, Mongolia, as well as in Iran, Turkey, and they use NON-KYRILLIC Kazakh alphabets), the inconvenience of using the Cyrillic alphabet becomes very noticeable. There is no Russophobia here. Moreover, Kazakhs respect your language, do not intend to prohibit it, and take into account the amount of information available in that language. Knowledge of only the Kazakh language is unacceptable for a Kazakh. Every Kazakh / Kazakh citizen MUST know three languages ​​at least - Kazakh, Russian, English. This is the state ideology. Unfortunately, some of the Slavs of Kazakhstan partially understand the actions of the state, and believe that they want to create a mono-lingual society in Kazakhstan. In the formation of such a position, it is necessary to say "thank you" to the Russian media and people like you, who, with the aplomb of an amateur, undertake to talk about linguistics and linguistic-geopolitics.