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Donetsk Republic refused to recognize the Geneva agreements and continues to protest

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The self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic does not recognize the agreements reached in Geneva on April 17. This was stated by one of the leaders of the DPR Denis Pushilin at a press conference in Donetsk.






According to ITAR-TASS with reference to Pushilina, Kiev also does not comply with these agreements.


"They refuse to withdraw troops from the territory Donetsk regionand it is impossible to talk about concessions under these conditions, ”said Pushilin.


According to him, before talking about the compromise, Kiev "must release the captured buildings, disarm illegal formations: the National Guard and the Right Sector", release political prisoners. "


“Only after that we are ready for dialogue,” Pushilin stressed.


On the eve of Geneva, a meeting was held between representatives of Russia, the USA, the EU and Ukraine to resolve the Ukrainian crisis. Negotiators called on the parties to the conflict to disarm illegal formations, return all illegally occupied buildings to their legitimate owners, free occupied streets, squares and other public places in all cities of Ukraine. In addition, an amnesty is planned for all protesters - with the exception of those who have committed serious crimes.


From March in the east of Ukraine - in Donetsk, Kharkov and Lugansk - meetings of supporters of federalization are held. The protests have spread to several cities in the Donetsk region. The Ukrainian authorities announced the start of a large-scale special operation involving the army. In Moscow, the decision of the new Ukrainian authorities to use force, including the army, against the protesters is considered an extremely dangerous development of events.

Originator:
http://russian.rt.com/article/28423
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  1. Validator
    Validator April 18 2014 21: 33
    +26
    Russians don't give up !!!
    1. svetlomor
      svetlomor April 18 2014 21: 37
      +15
      Well, it’s right, why observe what I didn’t sign up for.
      1. jjj
        jjj April 18 2014 22: 23
        +2
        Kiev also did not recognize. The evening promises to be languid
        1. Corsair
          Corsair April 19 2014 07: 41
          +2
          Quote: jjj
          Kiev also did not recognize. The evening promises to be languid

          I will add that "Acting Minister" Deshchitsa, IMMEDIATELY after the meeting, told reporters about "non-proliferation of agreements on the settlement of the" Maidan "and the militants of its components," they say "their gatherings, seizures and weapons are legal" ...
      2. Blondy
        Blondy April 19 2014 03: 18
        +3
        Right, but there is a hint here. Free administrative buildings - right - administrative services should work in normal conditions.
        But on the territory of the Donetsk Republic, the services of this republic should work, the outsiders (Kiev, for example) have nothing to do there. If they have not yet been created, then it is necessary to create and form a normal state mesh at a high rate, even on a voluntary basis, even from freelance employees. Need security - create a security service. Illegal armed armed groups on the streets - create lawful power structures, army, national guard, security service, border guard, police, etc. and the like .... And even the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Everything should be "grown-up" to communicate with the outside world.
        1. Blondy
          Blondy April 19 2014 03: 44
          0
          What does it mean to surrender your weapon? A state service of self-defense detachments of some "SOS" is being created. You come, or on the spot, they write down the number of your barrel, and you yourself are included in the list. That's it - you are no longer a bandyugan with a barrel, but a civil service employee who entrusts you with a weapon.
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith April 18 2014 21: 58
      +13
      Who has not seen! In the video, in my opinion, the Pole (low) is trying to persuade the centurion to go east. Filmed by all Polish media. By the way, there are none of Donetsk among them, we have Russian with surzhik, and not Polish-Ukrainian video.

      1. thrower
        thrower April 18 2014 22: 18
        +7
        He laughed. Heroes of Maidan - they are such heroes))
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    3. Chaldon1974
      Chaldon1974 April 19 2014 06: 51
      -6
      The Russians may not give up. But our fucking generals retreated to the campaign. They worry about their pockets. You can of course justify yourself "A lost battle is not a lost war yet." But it would be better if this meeting ended with nothing than such a result.
      1. Stavros
        Stavros April 19 2014 10: 59
        0
        Do not panic.
  2. alone
    alone April 18 2014 21: 33
    +3
    Quite expected statement. No wonder.
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  3. I read the news
    I read the news April 18 2014 21: 34
    +14
    Well done. Guys. Donetsk republic.
  4. Morgan
    Morgan April 18 2014 21: 34
    +20
    Any negotiations with the Nazis and their supporters (USA, EU) are useless. They understand only power. DONETSK, KEEP !!!!
    1. bif
      bif April 18 2014 21: 50
      +10
      Quote: Morgan
      Any negotiations with the Nazis and their supporters (USA, EU) are useless. They understand only power. DONETSK, KEEP !!!!

      I agree. What can be negotiated with people who, after signing the February 21 agreement, began an armed seizure of power through 6 hours.
      1. anfil
        anfil April 18 2014 23: 03
        +22
        Yes, no one agreed with them.
        A Foreign Ministry source revealed the essence of the negotiations in Geneva, which were not brought to the media.
        An interesting observation about today's meeting in Geneva.

        We know that the language of diplomacy is a very complicated thing, so we will try to summarize the outcome of the meeting in a simpler language.

        So. The meeting began with an impudent run over by representatives of the US Foreign Ministry, the meaning of this run over was something like this - "So, so, Lavrov, Deshchitsa said that he had some problems with you, let's talk and we will listen and settle" ... they came up with nothing like that, really ? Those. people from the doorway decided to put Ukraine and Russia on the same level, and they themselves wanted to act as a type of bearers and problem solvers)

        With this enchanting idea of ​​moronism and arrogance, they were sent by Lavrov to a well-known address, and at the same time Lavrov put in place a type of Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine - Deshchitsa, figuratively weighing him a bream like a boy. The mother-in-law wiped himself and cried, Kerry gave him a slap in the neck so that he would not ache, and Ashton gave him a cookie to comfort him.

        Then everything went no longer as planned in the US and the EU. And after some time, Lavrov and Kerry retired TWO, into a separate room. They talked for about forty minutes, then called Ashton and the three of them talked. The attendant sat alone and sucked a cookie. Then all three returned to the negotiating table. They tried to communicate with the four of us. They talked for a long time, apparently it was not possible to agree, Deshchitsa tried to seem smart and made a serious face, but at the same time spoke nonsense, for which he again received a slap from Kerry and, as a result, choked on the remains of the cookie. Realizing that the topic in the presence of this moron could not be resolved, Kerry and Lavrov again secluded themselves in a separate room, leaving Ashton to wipe the snot Deshchitsa. And again, Lavrov and Kerry spoke at a meeting long enough, then again they called Ashton ... Again the three of us spoke. The tradeswoman sat alone and enjoyed the sovereignty of Ukraine.

        After talking for some time, the three main negotiators went to the meeting room, and they made a final statement. The tradeswoman put a cross under this piece of paper. That's basically it.

        I have a question. Someone else believes in the independence of the Kiev junta?))

        I apologize for the slang. But if we discard diplomatic etiquette and decency, the behavior of the US and the EU at this meeting was very reminiscent of a criminal showdown a la 90.
        http://anna-news.info/node/15247
        1. koshh
          koshh April 19 2014 00: 56
          +1
          But we have not forgotten about such a showdown and our Lavra won them. But the lip-sleeper Deshitsa also got what distracts serious people from affairs. They also loaded him for order.
        2. Chaldon1974
          Chaldon1974 April 19 2014 07: 00
          -1
          Your words, yes to God in ears. One thing is scary, after the meeting, media reports about Ukraine faded.
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          2. cumastra1
            cumastra1 April 19 2014 09: 01
            +1
            There was also a non-aggression pact between the USSR and the Nazis. He reminds us - do not trust the fascist! "Hit him before he could raise his hands" (I don't remember from which film of my youth the quote)
          3. Stavros
            Stavros April 19 2014 11: 01
            +1
            Silence before the storm. I think the main events will be played by Victory Day, May 9th.
  5. Arhj
    Arhj April 18 2014 21: 35
    +7
    Now in the West they will portray indignation and blame Russia for disrupting the negotiation process. The fact that Kiev announced that it considers the agreements, assigning duties only to protesters, will be modestly silent. Maidan is legal.
  6. mamont5
    mamont5 April 18 2014 21: 37
    +4
    "They refuse to withdraw troops from the territory of the Donetsk region, and in these conditions it is impossible to talk about concessions," said Pushilin.
    According to him, before talking about the compromise, Kiev "must release the captured buildings, disarm illegal formations: the National Guard and the Right Sector", release political prisoners. "
    "Only after that are we ready for dialogue," Pushilin stressed.

    All is correct. At a minimum, it is necessary to demand the withdrawal of troops, the disarmament of law enforcement officers and the liberation of seized buildings by them, the liberation of all captured SSUs and, of course, the continuation of negotiations, but in the format 3 + 2, i.e. Russia, the EU, the USA and representatives of Ukraine from the Southeast and from Kiev.
    1. zzz
      zzz April 18 2014 22: 02
      +4
      This tyagomotin will never end .... Does anyone believe that reconciliation is possible? Push-Push)))
      1. Ulairy
        Ulairy April 18 2014 23: 54
        +1
        smile "Everything that has a beginning has an end, Neo" (what did I just say ?! NOOOO!) laughing
        There will be no "reconciliation". Submission will be. The conditions are different (choose, Ukraine), but all are tough - either you go to clean toilets in the EU in the form of rubble, or you stomp in the vehicle as a Federation. Or - no change on the "Romanian-Belarusian-Russian border" ...
      2. FEDOR007
        FEDOR007 April 19 2014 00: 44
        +2
        Respect begins where they get a rebuff from arrogance !!!
    2. s1н7т
      s1н7т April 18 2014 22: 30
      +2
      Quote: mamont5
      and, of course, the continuation of negotiations, but already in the 3 + 2 format, i.e. Russia, EU, USA and representatives of Ukraine

      I do not understand - what does the EU and the US have to do with it? Is this their territory? Are these their citizens? This is our land and our people! Nah amperes and EU! This is our question! Either in Ukraine they decide it themselves, or we decide it - there is no alternative. Other people's interests do not bother us. I think the "Ukrainian question" will be resolved just like that.
  7. Sochi
    Sochi April 18 2014 21: 37
    +28
    Hang on guys !!! We are for you wholeheartedly !!!
    1. Petr1
      Petr1 April 18 2014 21: 43
      +9
      Do not piss men, just that, all of Russia will stand up. We don’t give up our men wink
      1. Horst78
        Horst78 April 18 2014 22: 09
        +2
        Quote: Petr1
        just that, all of Russia will rise. We don’t leave our men

        That's it. Ancestors will be ashamed sad. We are now far away, but We are rowing with you, shoulder to shoulder.
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    3. Igarr
      Igarr April 18 2014 21: 43
      +17
      Fig ...
      Zaporozhye, Kherson ... not enough?
      Sumy.
      Where is Chernihiv? If this is not the original Russia .... then I am a Finnish Mongol, I give a tooth.
      1. Horst78
        Horst78 April 18 2014 22: 16
        +3
        Quote: Igarr
        ..that I am a Finnish Mongol

        Tady I Hunt Selkup once born in Siberia
        1. FEDOR007
          FEDOR007 April 19 2014 00: 36
          +1
          Siberians are good arrows, well, Finnish Mongols are not bad ..- wink
  8. svp67
    svp67 April 18 2014 21: 37
    +2
    They did not refuse to follow the Geneva accords, Donbass residents are WAITING for REAL steps for rapprochement, and not just words
  9. Hairy Siberian
    Hairy Siberian April 18 2014 21: 37
    +2
    Simple working people anticipated the taste of independence and will not back down.
    1. Ulairy
      Ulairy April 18 2014 22: 11
      +5
      Hmm, the main thing is not to confuse the "taste of independence" with the anaro-Makhnovism ... And they have nowhere to retreat - behind M ... normal life. No Euro-car will restore the Donetsk industry (at best, in the form of outsourcing with a penny salary) and working people who do not wear ties understand this perfectly well. But Donetsk will survive. Earth miners have one mentality - death row! With such a "compressed spring" no "boys with glasses" will ever cope! Donbass, Ural with you !!!
      1. FEDOR007
        FEDOR007 April 19 2014 00: 41
        +2
        There is nowhere to retreat further! It has been more than once !! Revive the Fatherland !! Come back Donbas !!!
  10. kocclissi
    kocclissi April 18 2014 21: 38
    +2
    I repeat: Keep it up! And do not give up! Only in front ... no matter what it is!
  11. psychologist
    psychologist April 18 2014 21: 39
    +10
    did the right thing !! once usa and we were promised a reboot !! we will restart them ourselves as necessary !!
  12. rasputin17
    rasputin17 April 18 2014 21: 40
    +2
    These agreements are only on paper !!! Paper will endure everything !!! Let the turchak with the yaytsenyukh rub himself with it !!! There are no facts on their part because they act according to their principle "We will promise now everything that they want to hang up later!" Well done citizens of Donetsk !!! Didn't buy this cheap fake !!!! Keep it up. we are with you !!!
  13. super-vitek
    super-vitek April 18 2014 21: 42
    0
    One gets the feeling that our authorities want to throw the Donbass to be torn to pieces by fucking Natsiks !!! The words of the GDP that the South East does not fall into euphoria speaks volumes. Apparently, we already agreed with the ami on who will whom and how to merge !!! Crimea was seized and everything, and the others waiting for help are already not so RUSSIAN, you can refuse !!! Bad smell of betrayal. But I’m sure that the guys will make friends, I will pray for them and keep my fists !!!
    1. max702
      max702 April 18 2014 22: 11
      0
      What is .. Either the chef is up to something. or eggs are not steel, but aluminum ..
  14. Yaran
    Yaran April 18 2014 21: 42
    +1
    no need to believe, Geneva agreements again deceived, we must go to the end.
  15. wiktoor
    wiktoor April 18 2014 21: 43
    +1
    - Yes, there were people nowadays,
    Not that the present tribe:
    Heroes - not you!
    They got a bad share:
    Not many returned from the field ...
    If it were not for the Lord's will,
    They would not give up Moscow!

    We retreated silently for a long time,
    It was a pity, they were waiting for the battle,
    Grumbling old people:
    “What are we? to winter apartments?
    Do not they dare that alien commanders tear uniforms
    About Russian bayonets? "

    And then we found a large field:
    There is a clear out where in the wild!
    LERMONTOV Mikhail Yurievich (1814 - 1841)
    NO COMMENTS
  16. Turkir
    Turkir April 18 2014 21: 44
    +10
    It is necessary to demand a ban on the Right Sector as a fascist movement.
    A party proclaiming a Nazi program should be banned,
    and its leaders should be in prison.

    This is the reason why Donetsk should not be disarmed.
    Donetsk Republic must apply to the UN demanding
    a ban on parties openly on the positions of National Socialism,
    those. Fascist and Nazi.
    The UN adopted such a law a long time ago.
  17. Arh
    Arh April 18 2014 21: 50
    +1
    Hold on Brothers !!!
  18. Monk
    Monk April 18 2014 21: 51
    +3
    Quote: svetlomor
    Well, it’s right, why observe what I didn’t sign up for.


    And there’s no sense anymore, there’s only one sense - to destroy fascism. This is the meaning that the life of the Southeast has turned into. And we will help them.
  19. kelevra
    kelevra April 18 2014 22: 00
    +3
    For example, I, too, did not notice any shift in favor of the people at this conference. So, for the sake of decency, we were going to scratch our tongues, but there was no sense. You need to declare a referendum and stand on it, and not decentralization of power and concessions in language. All this will come when the referendum passes!
  20. maestro123
    maestro123 April 18 2014 22: 02
    +1
    The farther, the more interesting it becomes to live. fellow
  21. Russian_German
    Russian_German April 18 2014 22: 10
    +3
    Quote: Igarr
    Zaporozhye, Kherson ... not enough? Sumy. And where is Chernihiv? If this is not the original Russia .... then I’m a Mongolian Finnish, I give a tooth.
    I agree completely! And More Dnipropetrovsk, Circassians, Nikolaev, Kirovograd, Kiev, etc.
  22. Lunic
    Lunic April 18 2014 22: 11
    +10
    At our place (in the USA), news agencies have almost stopped calling the protesters of the SE separatists. From today, the term is used: dissidents.
    A trifle, but already something ..
    1. I read the news
      I read the news April 18 2014 22: 30
      +5
      Suggest them the term "confederates"
    2. Ulairy
      Ulairy April 19 2014 00: 06
      0
      "dissidents" ... how cute. Listen, Lunic, do they still remember in the USA what "dissidents" are? And how did the "bloody gebnya" deal with them from Bulgaria to America? Hmm? Does the "umbrella prick" excite the minds yet? laughing Thank you for making me happy! Another would be a specific reference to the agency ... But, okay, all the same, the comment "smiled"!
      1. Lunic
        Lunic April 19 2014 06: 42
        0
        I heard about dissidents on the radio a couple of times today while I was driving to work. (NPR.org)
        Also several times it was said "Donetskaya Peoples Republic" Now for the sake of interest I went through their site and .... did not find it! But I found several "the separatists" in links to BBC or Reuters. so I was happy early .. Sorry!
  23. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. April 18 2014 22: 17
    +1
    The contract is certainly good. But without his actions confirming it is toilet paper.
  24. boozer
    boozer April 18 2014 22: 18
    +1
    Yes, everything is normal! To keep and not to recede from the legal requirements. Here, political methods will do. You can enter into a dialogue.
  25. Poldol
    Poldol April 18 2014 22: 27
    +2
    Quote: Lord of the Sith
    Who has not seen! In the video, in my opinion, the Pole (low) is trying to persuade the centurion to go east. Filmed by all Polish media. By the way, there are none of Donetsk among them, we have Russian with surzhik, and not Polish-Ukrainian video.

    This is not a Pole, this is a well-known hysterical activist from the "Road Control" Dzinjia (not to be confused with Kin-Dza-Dza). Even here in Sevastopol he tried to provoke the residents on the move. True, I got a luley, but he is no stranger to it. He positions himself as a patriot journalist. Disgusting guy.
  26. Russian_German
    Russian_German April 18 2014 22: 31
    +5
    We cannot be broken, power is behind us
    and never bend us
    Always united Russia
    when trouble comes to the house!
    We cannot be broken, the truth is behind us
    Whatever the lie
    Wall sons of Russia will rise
    and better than Russian you do not touch
    We cannot be bent, because we do not bend
    always beautiful and direct.
    We always laugh at death
    because we know that we are immortal.
    And in the world everyone has long known
    it is not possible to defeat us
    even though we always fight honestly
    but how else can it be.
    And I will say holy mother
    us not to bend and not to break !!!
  27. Deadmen
    Deadmen April 18 2014 22: 34
    0
    Well, it couldn’t be otherwise, only the agreements ended immediately opened fire. Naturally, these agreements are not needed by the people. In fact, all the fuss of the militias is only to hand. As long as Kiev continues to stupid, the watch militias watch the referendum and there are legal and surgical operations to separate and improve the regions.
  28. stas11830
    stas11830 April 18 2014 22: 36
    +1
    I hope that not only God will help the South-East of Ukraine!
  29. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
    Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. April 18 2014 22: 39
    +3
    The title of the article is not true. The Donetsk Republic did not refuse to recognize the Geneva accords, it simply refused to fulfill them until the junta itself began to implement them. And this is far from the same thing. Arrangements as such were not reached. Everything was limited to declaring good intentions on the part of Russia and the United States, although it was clear to them that they would not do the junta, there was no strength. And in this vein, Russia did not surrender the east, and the mattress covers set up the junta. Something like this!
  30. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 18 2014 22: 39
    -7
    Well done, that refused to recognize these agreements. Bad deals. And how Lavrov agreed to them, I don’t understand. The cove is utter, many different interpretations of the same text, in general, unworked agreements. Assumptions come true that our leadership will slowly merge the southeast, satisfied with the Crimea.
    1. Tatarus
      Tatarus April 18 2014 22: 47
      +2
      Read my post below. And do not erect a slur on Lavrov. It will be hot after Easter.
    2. sniper
      sniper April 19 2014 00: 02
      +1
      Quote: Thought Giant
      . The assumptions that

      Indeed GIANT .... wassat
    3. igor_m_p
      igor_m_p April 19 2014 06: 10
      +1
      Well, why is it so bad to think about Lavrov. Do not forget that diplomacy is the art of insulting the soul in such a way that it leaves a light aftertaste in the mouth of wild berries.
      I hope the Kiev junta is now relishing the aftertaste wassat
  31. Tatarus
    Tatarus April 18 2014 22: 40
    +1
    Last night and today, before dinner, I personally observed columns of military equipment. Yesterday they counted up to 65 cars and then threw them away. Today they didn’t count, but they also drove for a long time. Early in the morning and after dinner in the sky the buzz of aircraft. Russia did not believe the Geneva nonsense.

    Quote: Thought Giant
    Assumptions come true that our leadership will slowly merge the southeast, satisfied with the Crimea.


    Do not rush to cry gentlemen.


  32. IGS
    IGS April 18 2014 22: 43
    +11
    German journalist about what is happening in Ukraine. In the west, they began to "wake up".
    1. Kostya
      Kostya April 19 2014 00: 35
      +1
      Interesting opinion)
  33. stas11830
    stas11830 April 18 2014 22: 48
    +1
    And right!
  34. Igor Gor
    Igor Gor April 18 2014 22: 49
    +3
    One cannot believe the Kiev Bandera-Fascist abomination together with the European-American allies, documents certified by their signatures are less valuable than toilet paper used for its intended purpose)))
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  35. tokin1959
    tokin1959 April 18 2014 23: 42
    +3
    It’s probably time to get Yanyka out of the sleeve, while the junta hasn’t done anything, let’s rage with anger and powerlessness, it’s time to finish the Bandera-gangster booth, made a noise, dirtied Kiev, and went to their farms to Galicia.
    And Merkel should be reminded that when the time came for Germany to unite, the Russians simply left Europe - without any conditions, so the people of Ukraine will decide for themselves where and with whom to live, and in which country.
    1. Per se.
      Per se. April 18 2014 23: 58
      +1
      Quote: tokin1959
      It’s probably time to get Yanyka out of the sleeve
      It's time, if he decides on Easter, he will be declared in Lugansk or Donetsk. That would be Hochma, especially if it also formed a new government and officially turned to Russia for help. As for the mattresses, well, you are simply amazed at the cynical impudence and the vile hypocrisy of the United States, they blame Russia for something, this is after all that they themselves have created and are doing in the world!
      1. tokin1959
        tokin1959 April 19 2014 00: 06
        +1
        visible participation of Russia in this case is not necessary, only moral and political, and to threaten military intervention in an attempt to overthrow it. Now there are enough forces to keep him. and the cops with the army will definitely refuse to act under the auspices of the junta. and already under the "roof" of the legitimate Yanyk, you can make decisions on a referendum, constitution, etc.
        America will immediately be blown away, and the EU too - they cannot go against the legitimate president, if they are against it, then they will finally sit in a pool of double standards. failure will be complete.
        1. FEDOR007
          FEDOR007 April 19 2014 03: 25
          +3
          Yanukovych, Viktor Fedorovich !!! Come back to Donbas .. !!! I understand that this is a risk, but you must do at least one courageous Deed for the people who entrusted you with their lives? Life is not eternal Viktor Fedorovich !!! And you should to think with what you will come to Jehovah when your hour comes? What will you tell him? The fact that you deceived your people and survived all your life at the expense of others? He will certainly ask YOU: - "What are you standing for? !! What is in you worthwhile to preserve your immortal soul and let it go further along the path of Times and Spaces? !! ​​What have you done good and heroic in the name of Good and Justice, so that you can decide that your soul deserves the best? !! ... "And you will have to answer the Truth, here you will not call the devil's advocates, if only because that you yourself and judge by Justice ... You will remember Viktor Fedorovich, every moment of your life, every second. And maybe your whole life was definitely needed in order for you to Do the Courageous Act Right Now. And you must do It for people and for yourself !! This is your Hour Victor Fedorovich !! Don't miss it !! It's the same Truth as if it happens - this Patriotic War will be ours! Anthem of Donbass "Get up, Donbass!" (official anthem of the DPR)
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXgiyYxCJ0
      2. igor.borov775
        igor.borov775 April 19 2014 06: 31
        0
        WELL WELL HERE LONG THERE WAIT TOO MUCH IT IS NECESSARY TO REMEMBER HIM, LIFE NOW HAS RUNNING IT ALL FOR THE COUNTRY; THE PASSED STAGE SHOULD LIVE LONGER AND WITH ALL OTHER PEOPLE, DURING THIS TIME, THERE WERE SO MUCH BRIGHT INTERESTING RESPECT PEOPLE FOR THEM THE FUTURE,
  36. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 18 2014 23: 54
    +2
    Analyze the guys information, do not succumb to hatred. Any text can be read and see what is written between the lines. The most painful thing happens when the euphoria falls under the blow of reality, I write to those who have put me down.
    1. tokin1959
      tokin1959 April 19 2014 00: 08
      +1
      under these agreements, everything has already been "chewed".
      even in the West they write - Putin outplayed the West. outright.
      just read more.
  37. fregina1
    fregina1 April 19 2014 00: 02
    0
    Lugansk must be connected! MUST! An example must be shown! At least for now 2 regions !!!! At least 2!
  38. Zomanus
    Zomanus April 19 2014 01: 33
    0
    Eh, the wrong people in Ukraine should settle the crisis. It turns out that the crisis was set to resolve the same people who brewed it. “They don’t change horses at the crossing”, yeah, you have already heard. Two things are happy in the current situation. 1.The losses are not big yet, and there is a hope to settle everything without a hot phase of the civil war, 2.Ukraine has less and less resources (though I don’t understand what kind of hryvnia is still worth more than 3 rubles), and one way or another soon you will have to think with your head, and not act on emotions. At the same time, thoughts will be the most mundane, devour and warm up.
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  40. Privat
    Privat April 19 2014 01: 58
    +1
    Quote: Giant thought
    Bad deals. And how Lavrov agreed to them, I don’t understand. The cove is utter, many different interpretations of the same text, in general, unworked agreements. Assumptions come true that our leadership will slowly merge the southeast, satisfied with the Crimea.
    In order not to breed decadent sentiments, it is always useful to ask the question: "What will happen next?" (in common people sounds like "So what?" wink)
    The Donetsk people said quite correctly: "But let them disarm first, and then we too, maybe. We still need to look ..."
    Pravoseki, when (and if) Yaytsevnyukh will roll out a proposal to disarm them, they will say: "Did you fight for sho? Did you put life for sho? You, four-eyed amoeba, sold us all at the root!" After that, as usual, they will go to cover state institutions with tires.
    And Lavrov will be able to say: "Hey, America? And yours don't obey you, they completely got out of hand! They don't respect you, probably. And you still feed them with dry rations. Yes, another demon-possessed weapon is begging for you (nuclear). They are all you what, they take for an idiot? "
    And America, even for the sake of sight, will have to mumble something about de-escalation, because it has signed agreements. Maybe even scolding one of his own kind.
    But this is not the main thing. America and Russia are now (sort of) on one side - the peaceful normalization of the situation in Ukraine. That is, for Europe, as it were. And she can already afford not only America, but we are slowly getting tired of it.
    And all these tweaks, jumps and diplomatic dances with a tambourine take time, which, like money, fuel, food, etc.
    And during this time, everyone who wants to, may have time to hold referendums at home.
    Fast, democratic and with observers. wink
    1. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 April 19 2014 06: 46
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      EXACTLY, HERE AND ANSWER THE MAJOR IS WIN TIME RELEASED ASSISTANTS THIS IS WELL, GOOD FELLOW !!! THE COMMENT HAS BROUGHT UNDERSTANDING WHAT RUSSIA HAS DONE, NOW HOW DO YOU DISPOSE THAT YOU HAVE BEEN PUTTING OUT OF SUCCESS, SUCCESS IN ALL DIGITS AND GOOD LUCK IT NEEDS
    2. Oleg14774
      Oleg14774 April 19 2014 12: 48
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      And she can already afford not only America, but we are slowly getting tired of it.

      I think that Lavrov had such "arguments" against which Kerry could not resist. And what Putin said about Obama that he is courageous suggests that he is at the GDP on a short occasion.
  41. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN April 19 2014 02: 29
    +1
    That's right - you can’t believe the fascists — you can tear off eggs for Easter!
    1. Oleg14774
      Oleg14774 April 19 2014 12: 46
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      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      That's right - you can’t believe the fascists — you can tear off eggs for Easter!

      Eggs ?! For easter? So this is a holy thing!
  42. lance
    lance April 19 2014 04: 00
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    Well, why not trusting the Maidan junta in Kiev, she told in her glory how she sees the implementation of the Geneva agreements. now it depends on the local guys what they will list the conditions for the agreement, and it is urgently necessary to choose the ruling structures on the ground, their heads, to hold referendums, to transfer the militias to the Ministry of Internal Affairs - by removing the pro-Kiev provocateurs, to demand the withdrawal of special forces to the places of permanent deployment - including the right sector (or to finish him off with partisan retaliation), before the presidential elections, demand the convocation of a council of federations of ELECTED representatives on the ground to determine the way to elect the president and the Rada - after that, the disarmament of all illegal units is how the SE guys should understand Geneva. if not everything is down the drain and who will guarantee that people, having become accustomed to weapons, will not consider themselves "Makhno" dads
  43. Humpty
    Humpty April 19 2014 04: 54
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    Actually, that the Donetsk Republic should be recognized, even if all the top types were decided in Geneva, then without them the .Juntenka was even put out the door, but they provided me with an opportunity to hysteria.
  44. ussrex
    ussrex April 19 2014 06: 27
    +1
    I also think that the refusal to invite a representative of the southeast to the meeting is very strange: after all, they will say that they didn’t sign anything, and Lavrov will say, I offered to bring them to the talks.
  45. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir April 19 2014 08: 43
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    the agreement was refused in the first place in Kiev, stating that the cannibals do not fall under the contract for the surrender of weapons by non-legal forces
    1. I read the news
      I read the news April 19 2014 11: 06
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      Let the Batman declare this in Geneva. Maybe they will blow him up in the hallway.
  46. 51064
    51064 April 19 2014 09: 28
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    Bad deals. And how Lavrov agreed to them, I don’t understand.

    It was important to take the first step in de-escalation. It was clear in advance that the Kiev authorities would not be satisfied with these agreements, they would refuse to fulfill them with regard to the liberation of illegally occupied squares, streets, the disarmament of illegally created military units, they would not refuse to use force against rebels, etc. If the Donetsk Republic will strengthen its position in the region, then the residents of the Southeast will be able to defend their interests to one degree or another. In this situation, it is important to understand that the source of the processes taking place in the region should be the population itself, the people of Donbass and the regions adjacent to it. Everyone understands that Russia cannot and will not be able to and will not do this in the future if the situation in Ukraine develops peacefully without the use of armed forces or illegal armed groups in the region.
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  48. Turkir
    Turkir April 19 2014 10: 53
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    The vile face of Yarosh.
  49. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 19 2014 10: 53
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    Gentlemen minusculers, who are giving me a minus for the first comment on the article, at least you yourself read the text of these agreements, and if you did, you understood something. I’ll try to explain a little. At a time when President Putin of the whole world declares that we do not recognize those who now steer in Kiev as legitimate, Lavrov signs a document in Geneva that legitimizes essentially the junta, there is not a single word about this in the text of the agreements. If so, then the junta, as a legitimate authority, gets to determine which armed groups are legal and which are not. Here are their statements: the formation of the Maidan is legal, but there is no southeast. Here we coarsely framed the southeast. Therefore, the southeast and not only therefore the southeast does not recognize these agreements. There is not a word on the implementation of the agreements of February 21, all the time they focused on this, and now they forgot about everything. There is not a word about federalization, etc. Is this really not enough for you?
  50. mig31
    mig31 April 19 2014 16: 51
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    The salt of the earth is people, you won’t beat salt with sugar, you won’t dissolve it, but Geneva, let it chat ...