The military returned to themselves two BMD captured in Kramatorsk

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The military returned to themselves two BMD captured in Kramatorsk


On Friday, April 18, the Ukrainian military regained two airborne combat vehicles captured by residents of Kramatorsk. Representatives of the Ministry of Defense reported that as a result of a special operation to seize equipment, civilians were not injured.

Two days earlier, the Kramatorsk citizens got hold of six BMDs, in which the soldiers planned to conduct a military operation in the city, reminds ITAR-TASS. The protesters surrounded and blocked them, disarmed the military and occupied military equipment.

In the meantime, a caches with weapons and explosives belonging to the radicals of the "Right Sector". According to local residents, the militants planned sabotage.

Meanwhile, the special operation in the east of Ukraine continues, but it is entering a “inactive phase” due to the Geneva accords and Easter holidays.
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  1. +16
    April 18 2014 21: 29
    VIEW AND DISTRIBUTE. Clarifications on the situation in Lugansk (Lugansk) 18.04.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX
    1. Validator
      +9
      April 18 2014 21: 32
      If they returned, then it’s definitely not these:
      1. Vita_vko
        +30
        April 18 2014 21: 38
        This is desa!
        On Friday, April 18, the Ukrainian military regained two assault vehicles captured by the residents of Kramatorsk.
        Another 2 hours ago on the website of the Southeast Front denied this information. All 6 cars stand at the administration building, which controls the Provisional Government of the Donetsk Republic.
        1. +12
          April 18 2014 22: 30
          I do not mind at all if the entire effort of the independent army is only enough to return a couple of pro "" "" infantry fighting vehicles. Enchanting success, I cried. crying
          1. Rblipetsk
            +3
            April 18 2014 23: 00
            Quote: Botanologist
            I do not mind at all if the entire effort of the independent army is only enough to return a couple of pro "" "" infantry fighting vehicles. Enchanting success, I cried.

            but I presented it differently. ukrovoyaki come to the laity and begin to whine, wringing their hands-give it away, well, please give it back, well, at least return a couple, otherwise the Minister of Defense of Atatatat will .... tongue
          2. +3
            April 18 2014 23: 37
            With fused solarium))))))
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          1. +6
            April 18 2014 22: 53
            Lie.
            According to the information I received directly from the Kramatorsk children, this is a lie.

            Not a very informative brew. BMD "got hold" - how's that? Found in the forest?
            And why didn’t they write in detail how it is possible to take combat vehicles from checkpoints without losses and casualties?

            They lie and do not blush.
        3. +2
          April 19 2014 02: 26
          And what kind of site? And the general question: what are the existing sites in the south-east of Ukraine?
  2. +11
    April 18 2014 21: 29
    the Ukrainian military recaptured two landing vehicles captured by the residents of Kramatorsk.
    First, they were carved, and then, by the decision of the tribunal, they were disassembled into components and turned into scrap metal ... so that other BMDs would not be accustomed ...
  3. +5
    April 18 2014 21: 32
    So much information is contradictory, my head is already spinning. And did the PS have a branch in Slavyansk? belay
  4. Arh
    +1
    April 18 2014 21: 36
    They didn’t give it back, but they hid it, eight came in handy !!!
  5. -23
    April 18 2014 21: 37
    Sorry, but by signing the agreement in Geneva we betrayed all Russians.
    1. +10
      April 18 2014 21: 43
      Quote: ronin
      Sorry, but by signing the agreement in Geneva we betrayed all Russians.

      And in your opinion, the protection of the interests of the Russians is "checkers bald" and a million killed on both sides?
      1. +11
        April 18 2014 21: 47
        Quote: Homo
        And in your opinion, the protection of the interests of the Russians is "checkers bald" and a million killed on both sides?

        Sitting at the computer, you can safely send tens of millions to slaughter))) The point is simple. Even lift your ass from the chair laughing
    2. +6
      April 18 2014 21: 47
      Quote: ronin
      Sorry, but by signing the agreement in Geneva we betrayed all Russians.

      Why apologize if you are DEEPly mistaken ...
    3. +12
      April 18 2014 21: 50
      And I absolutely disagree with such a hasty conclusion! Our country’s participation in Geneva is purely diplomatic, and the decisions on the surrender of weapons, the liberation of buildings concern both the Right Sector and the South-East of Ukraine. The Kiev junta should be engaged in the implementation of this agreement, and they will never be able to do this either in western Ukraine or in center, nor in the East ...
      And then Putin proved long ago that he always replayed the USA and Western Western Europe, and Russia did not exclude the possibility of military participation in the Southeast, according to our President.
      1. +1
        April 19 2014 03: 13
        That’s precisely this very valuable remark, Now you can safely tell your friends from Europe how disarmament is going on in Kiev, They’re already worried about how to get away from it, And most importantly, they’ve been cleaned. ambush, Nothing would have happened otherwise, But now the requirements would be interesting, After all, DAMA with Scythe is also stamping something too urgently, Do not forget another activist who is pulling Mr. Colomi in full swing there because of the curtain ,,,, ,, Yes, they’ll just divorce him, And now we’ll see how it all turns out, It seems to me that the authorities themselves will be afraid to touch Kiev, Everything is on the Right Sector, I’m afraid of something else, How many shifters and crooks have settled in all the power structures and even in the localities, Only now when the threats began it became evident who is who in the field, and this, albeit small but in time a truce will give a new impetus to get rid of all the crooks in the field, I do not think that SE will be the first to lay down gee, After all, as far as everyone needs to start clearly from the capital of the country, I wish good luck to the president, who is not elected in the disarmament of the Right Sector, Interestingly enough,
    4. +4
      April 18 2014 21: 55
      Quote: ronin
      Sorry, but by signing the agreement in Geneva we betrayed all Russians.

      Yah ??? And in more detail it is possible than "we" and whom they betrayed .....
      IMHO-the requirements of the agreement are quite fair, but far from feasible for the "authorities" "Ukraine" -who can they disarm ??? Someone generally obeys them ???
      1. 0
        April 19 2014 04: 32
        The fact of the matter is that by signing this agreement, Lavrov, in principle, did not risk anything. The conditions are essentially absolutely unacceptable, first of all, for the so-called "official power".
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    6. 0
      April 18 2014 22: 04
      ronin minus you for nonsense, someone simply will not fulfill these agreements. they do not even cost the paper spent on them
    7. +40
      April 18 2014 22: 06
      A source in the Foreign Ministry revealed the essence of the Geneva talks, which was not brought to the media
      Apr 18, 2014 We know that the language of diplomacy is a very complicated thing, so we’ll try to summarize the outcome of the meeting in a simpler language.

      So.
      The meeting began with an impudent run over by representatives of the US Foreign Ministry, the meaning of this run over was something like this - "So, so, Lavrov, Deshchitsa said that he had some problems with you, let's talk and we will listen and settle" ... they came up with nothing like that, really ? Those. people from the doorway decided to put Ukraine and Russia on the same level, and they themselves wanted to act as a type of bearers and problem solvers)

      With this enchanting idea of ​​moronism and arrogance, they were sent by Lavrov to a well-known address, and at the same time Lavrov put in place a type of Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine - Deshchitsa, figuratively weighing him a bream like a boy. The mother-in-law wiped himself and cried, Kerry gave him a slap in the neck so that he would not ache, and Ashton gave him a cookie to comfort him.

      Then everything went no longer as planned in the US and the EU. And after some time, Lavrov and Kerry retired TWO, into a separate room. They talked for about forty minutes, then called Ashton and the three of them talked. The attendant sat alone and sucked a cookie. Then all three returned to the negotiating table. They tried to communicate with the four of us. They talked for a long time, apparently it was not possible to agree, Deshchitsa tried to seem smart and made a serious face, but at the same time spoke nonsense, for which he again received a slap from Kerry and, as a result, choked on the remains of the cookie. Realizing that the topic in the presence of this moron could not be resolved, Kerry and Lavrov again secluded themselves in a separate room, leaving Ashton to wipe the snot Deshchitsa. And again, Lavrov and Kerry spoke at a meeting long enough, then again they called Ashton ... Again the three of us spoke. The tradeswoman sat alone and enjoyed the sovereignty of Ukraine.

      After talking for some time, the three main negotiators went to the meeting room, and they made a final statement. The tradeswoman put a cross under this piece of paper.
      ______________
      1. jjj
        +11
        April 18 2014 22: 16
        And there is. Russia is negotiating with the United States. The EU is a witness. Ukraine awaits fate.
        And another chip. Negotiations took place exactly in the place where they condemned Iran, Libya and Syria. Type Russia from the same row. Did not work out
        1. +1
          April 19 2014 03: 37
          You are right, absolutely everything was planned like that, they accuse us of going to the press and the job is done, but there was a bummer and the blanks went to hell, that’s why the diplomats had to write everything anew and not as they wanted, So they agreed on every word, even looking for a comma where to put , The collection of four and the party was between two, The consent was not asked of the third but brought up, And the fourth very often was not aware of where to stop it all, It all reminds of a romantic 19th century. You don’t find it. Read the story turns out to be times, but it comes back differently, The truth is, during this time, diplomacy has achieved such success that the press conference does not give an answer what has been achieved, It seems everyone said, and after disassembling this conference, it suddenly turns out that they didn’t say anything so hints and that’s all, the language of the diplomats is great, Only subsequent events will show what the diplomats wanted to say, We will soon find out
      2. +9
        April 18 2014 22: 29
        Quote: maestro123
        The tradeswoman sat alone and enjoyed the sovereignty of Ukraine.

        laughing
        Author !!! The author in the studio !!!!! I haven’t laughed like that for a long time !!!! Bravo!
      3. +5
        April 18 2014 22: 43
        dvizhuha after negotiations?advertisement
        IA REGNUM »News» Politics »Source: Next Sunday ...
        Source: Next Sunday, Yanukovych will return to Ukraine
        The ousted president of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych. shot: vesti.ru The ousted president of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych. frame: vesti.ru
        On Sunday, April 20, the ousted president of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych will return to Donetsk. This was reported to a REGNUM correspondent in Donetsk by a source at the Embassy of the Republic of Poland in Ukraine.

        "Yanukovych will be returned to Donetsk this Sunday. According to my information, the Kremlin has not yet decided on the future socio-political structure of Donbass. Two options are being considered: it can be either an independent Donetsk republic or a federal district within the Russian Federation following the example of Crimea," - said the source.

        Earlier, State Duma deputy, leader of the Liberal Democratic Party Vladimir Zhirinovsky said that by May 1, Viktor Yanukovych would return to Ukraine - "with some support from the army of the South-East of Ukraine." "The army has already been created - in the South-East of Ukraine, there are commanders, chiefs of staff, they took an oath to the people of Ukraine. And those counterfeiters who are sitting in Kiev, they will all be arrested. But they will run away, they all have a plane. Turchinov, Yatsenyuk , Nalyvaichenko, Parubiy and all the rest, there, 5-6 people, "- said Zhirinovsky.

        As reported by IA REGNUM, the armed activists of the Donetsk branch of the "Oplot" organization, who today, on April 16, seized the building of the Donetsk City Council, put forward their demands to the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine. According to the head of the Donetsk branch of the Oplot organization, Oleksandr Zakharchenko, the activists are demanding the adoption by the Ukrainian parliament of the Law "On Local Referendum". "We demand that the Rada adopt the draft law" On local referendum "in the version proposed by People's Deputy Bobkov (member of the Party of Regions faction Alexander Bobkov - IA REGNUM). This draft law has already been submitted to parliament," Zakharchenko said. He assured that the civil servants of the Donetsk City Executive Committee will be able to continue to fulfill their duties and work in peace. "The employees of the city executive committee can continue to work in peace. No one will touch them, we will not allow looting and robberies," Zakharchenko assured. Also, the head of the "Oplot" educational institution announced the erection of barricades around the administrative building



        Details: http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1791840.html#ixzz2zGLWI33A
        Any use of materials is allowed only if there is a hyperlink to REGNUM news agency.
        1. +1
          April 19 2014 03: 46
          How can I interfere with everything in a heap, And a reliable source isn’t a cloakroom owner by chance, Only he could share such a secret, And the rest make an surprised face or diplomacy is different, It’s strange that I was so waiting for changes that I didn’t notice, Karaul got ahead,
      4. +1
        April 18 2014 23: 39
        Maestro, everything is clear and clear, thank you) hi
        1. +2
          April 19 2014 01: 30
          America sold weapons to everyone who, borosla with the regime disagreeable to her, the USA. (to list - for a long time, the latter - Syrian rebels) And the United States does not hide it. Maybe Russia should quietly throw a bit to its neighbors? For the needs of the miners ... Excuse - then we will find. :)))
          1. +1
            April 19 2014 02: 44
            You can even give too much, over there the warehouses are clogged with guns and they are thinking of removing them from service!
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            2. 0
              April 19 2014 09: 21
              Ak they have.
              They would RPG tanks yes BTR-am show. Just that is. And then the heads are hot.
      5. +1
        April 19 2014 00: 32
        And after some time, Lavrov and Kerry retired TWO, into a separate room. They talked for about forty minutes, then called Ashton and the three of them talked. The attendant sat alone and sucked ...
        WELL WRITTEN! FIRST AGREED AS ... THIS Ashton turned out to be in two! Well, and the girl was engaged in a familiar business ...
        1. RND
          0
          April 19 2014 03: 07
          Quote: gav6757
          And after some time, Lavrov and Kerry retired TWO, into a separate room. They talked for about forty minutes, then called Ashton and the three of them talked. The attendant sat alone and sucked ...
          WELL WRITTEN! FIRST AGREED AS ... THIS Ashton turned out to be in two! Well, and the girl was engaged in a familiar business ...

          Well, tell me - masturbate ... laughing
      6. 0
        April 19 2014 01: 05
        Bravo to the author! laughing
    8. 0
      April 18 2014 22: 24
      Quote: ronin
      By signing the agreement in Geneva, we betrayed all Russians


      And what did you see there? Or did you think something about Russians and betrayal?
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    10. +4
      April 18 2014 22: 37
      Quote: ronin
      Sorry, but by signing the agreement in Geneva we betrayed all Russians.

      The position of Russia, with which the head of the Russian foreign ministry came, is based on the idea that the main goal of the meeting in a quadripartite format is to resolve the domestic political crisis in Ukraine. That is why the Russian side saw the de-escalation of the situation in the south-east of Ukraine and the “complete, not cosmetic” constitutional reform as the main issue of the meeting.

      Read on: http://izvestia.ru/news/569436#ixzz2zGPtwRn2
      No, ronin, there is no betrayal here. There is a clear demand for FULL constitutional reform! The Constitution and the Constitutional Court are the "Guardian Bird" of the law over lawlessness, which means that with this demand we did not "betray the Russians," but supported the Ukrainians. A complete constitutional reform (if it will be implemented), will pour into the toilet bowl of the global trash heap (for complete political uselessness) of all egg-smelling people, wheelchair-bound people, suicide bombers and other evil spirits, preventing Ukraine from becoming a hot spot on a global scale! Lavrov again showed political foresight, which Westerners would never dream of.
      1. +3
        April 18 2014 23: 28
        I fully support. Lavrov proves himself to be a master of foreign policy dribbling. Moreover, the junta itself will not fulfill this agreement, it no longer fulfills and assigns a number of provisions (disarmament of undeclared formations, the release of adm. Buildings) only to the opposite side. This means that the agreement will be disrupted by the junta.
        There is no specifics on the reform in the Geneva Agreement, ALL Ukrainians should agree on this. And now it’s even impossible to collect them together for negotiations. In a few days, all this will finally become clear. True, a shout from Washington may follow, and the junta will compromise, which is hardly believed. But in Donetsk and in Lugansk they are unlikely to believe her. They simply cannot trust the junta. It seems to me that the point of no return has already been passed, or is about to be passed. And then - hello, new subjects of the Russian Federation!
    11. +1
      April 19 2014 02: 39
      this is a moot point, it was just necessary to register literally that the right sector is disarming first and then the east! and then the east has the right to its opinion, and no one asked them; whoever signed it, let it be disarmed!
    12. 0
      April 19 2014 04: 13
      Betrayed, if only they would have given rise to the massacre of Russians in Ukraine ...
  6. +2
    April 18 2014 21: 39
    Croning with weapons .... Interestingly, pravoseki according to fascist custom decided to kill civilians? or are they, stupid, AGAINST RUSSIA ?!
  7. +3
    April 18 2014 21: 42
    Yes zadolbali, podiko, self-defense: "Dianka .. ah, Dianka ... well, atda-ah-ah! (Prolonged roar) .... Well, give it back, Dianka, otherwise my Turchinov folder is in the corner of the post-ah- and-it !!!! Aaaaaaa !!!!!! ". recourse And pulled the trouser leg. Who you want nerves can not stand wink
  8. leo44
    +5
    April 18 2014 21: 43
    What is interesting about them is: if you believe the previous news, civilians on ATVs, motorcycles and bicycles managed to catch up and get armored vehicles, and the Ukrainian army had to carry out a "special operation to seize the equipment" to return it. laughing
  9. +3
    April 18 2014 21: 52
    Quote: ronin
    Sorry, but by signing the agreement in Geneva we betrayed all Russians.

    Wait and see! Two opposing opinions:
    Russian diplomacy in Geneva surrenders resistance to the Southeast.
    18 / 04 / 2014 12: 10 The Geneva Agreements actually legitimize the junta and merge resistance in southeastern Ukraine. Russian diplomacy has actually surrendered all its positions. Lavrov did not achieve recognition of Yanukovych as the legitimate president and fulfillment of the guarantees that the ministers of Western states had previously taken upon themselves by signing an agreement with Yanukovych. The seizure of buildings in the southeast is recognized as illegitimate by this agreement, unlike the seizure of buildings in Kiev by those who today we call the junta.http://www.om-saratov.ru/blogi/18-april-2014-i10585-rossiiskaya-diplomatiya-v-je
    n

    In Geneva, the Ukrainian junta was betrayed
    I am very sorry to upset the dreamers in Ukraine, but this state did not take place. You can listen to the ravings of Yatsenyuk & Co. about the unprecedented breakthrough in Geneva. The truth is that when discussing the fate of Ukraine, the representatives of Russia, the US and the EU regularly send a representative of Ukraine to "smoke" and decide the fate of Ukraine without Ukraine, there is nothing to talk about. In fact, the obvious was recognized - the state of Ukraine did not take place and today the leading states are solving the problem of a civilized divorce of their forces. Ukraine, like all 22 years of its existence, is not a subject of international politics, but an object of influence.http: //maxpark.com/community/politic/content/2677806
    And another opinion:
    Ex-adviser to Putin on Geneva accords: Ukrainians sold you and betrayed
    Andrei Illarionov, an employee of the Cato Institute and former adviser to Russian President Vladimir Putin, considers the four-sided statement following the April 17 meeting in Geneva on the Ukrainian issue to be evidence that the Ukrainians were sold and betrayed by their own authorities.
    The picture looks like this: Putin got everything he wanted. It looks like even more, "says Illarionov.
    He highlighted 17 facts of what, in his opinion, testifies to the betrayal of the Ukrainian people by his own authority.http://obozrevatel.com/politics/06127-eks-sovetnik-putina-o-soglashenii-v-zhenev
    e-ukraintsyi-vas-prodali-predali.htm
  10. Leshka
    0
    April 18 2014 21: 53
    most likely p.p.z.d.o.sh Yes
    1. +4
      April 18 2014 22: 53
      As a former staff clerk and as a cultured person, let me say that it is correct to write "p.i.z.d.y.zh." Namely, through the "F"! Otherwise, the current Kiev authorities are unable to understand the essence of the current moment. wassat
  11. Seamaster
    +8
    April 18 2014 22: 00
    The Kiev junta did not understand that the West had leaked it in full.
    1. illegal armed groups must be disarmed - right, the right sector must be disarmed, all sorts of hundreds from the Maidan and dozens more groups from the Maidan. All of them, from the point of view of the Constitution of Ukraine, are illegal.
    By the way, the National Guard is also illegal in terms of the Constitution.
    2. Illegally occupied buildings must be returned to their legitimate owners - that means everything that the Maydanites and law-enforcers in Kiev, Lviv and other cities grabbed must be returned. Even Mezhgorye and Janek’s cars. Maydanutykh - at the place of residence.
    3. Occupied squares, streets and other public places in all cities of Ukraine should be freed - this is about Maidan and Grushevsky.
    And in parallel - the same in the Donbass.
    The only question is - will Yarosh and others like that go for it?
    It won’t work.
    Hence, the East will not go.
    This means that the agreement was disrupted by the Ukrainian side.
    And the junta will be pressed not only, but also Europe with the Tan as violators of the agreement.
    1. jjj
      +4
      April 18 2014 22: 21
      Under this agreement, all Kiev authorities seized illegally must be freed, the Maidan should be freed, the Bandera people should be disarmed and the National Guard should be eliminated. Kiev has already refused to do this
    2. 0
      April 19 2014 04: 16
      DEAR WELL YOU AND A SADIST, IT DOESN'T LIKE THIS IN FACT AND THE "LADY WITH A SCEED" IS AGAIN IN KHARKOV, WELL, YOU CAN'T SO, SOON, VERY SOON, YOU WILL HEAR HER ANSWER TO YOUR RAVE HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT TO GET MORE REGRET THIS, NOW SHE WILL BE EXACTLY INCLUDED IN THE FIGHT AGAINST EVIL, IT WILL NOT BE IN KHARKOV SHE WILL MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO BREAK THE SITUATION ON YOUR SIDE, YOU CANNOT HAPPEN TO HAVE an agreement WILL REGRY MORE THAN TIME
  12. +3
    April 18 2014 22: 16
    Yes, there two BMDs were thrown at the approaches, either stalled or stuck ... so they were returned. Well damn the great achievement of the Armed Forces of Ukraine! Progress! fellow love laughing
    1. avt
      +2
      April 18 2014 22: 39
      Quote: boozer
      Yes, there two BMDs were thrown at the approaches, either stalled or stuck ... so they were returned. Well damn the great achievement of the Armed Forces of Ukraine! Progress!

      In, in! In the morning I read at the Ukrzenser about the heroic exploits of stalled equipment. So I immediately thought - they dragged their own. laughing And now they have a cut off on their website. I can’t find the morning information, if they really beat me off, they would dance all day, and even now they are silent. And here it’s not even like the paratroopers about whom their deputy was crucified - they used a military trick, penetrated into the “lair.” Or maybe they scrapped it? That's how now they found it on the Ukrainian censor to buy metal in the zapadzent - “At the metal warehouse serviceable military equipment found in Rivne " laughing
      1. 0
        April 19 2014 14: 24
        Quote: avt
        Serviceable military equipment found at metal base in Rivne

        Yes, it’s not a metal base, but storage warehouses.
  13. +7
    April 18 2014 22: 27
    I know that the south-east of Ukraine is now having money problems. I would recommend to them to release one or two previously occupied administrative buildings, and check whether the Kiev authorities and Mr. Okolopomoisky are ready to pay 200 thousand dollars for each of them. If not, then all the promises of Kiev are worthless; m Geneva agreements can be wiped; if they pay, it will be quite a profitable business for themselves. In this case, in both cases, it is important to understand that what is busy / sold can be repeated once, since there are enough office buildings in Ukrainian cities - take any. And so once, and again, and many, many more times bully Until Okolopomoisky simply runs out of money, and the very idea of ​​such a "purchase" does not discredit itself completely.
    1. +2
      April 18 2014 22: 36
      Quote: Stiletto
      I would recommend to them to release one or two previously occupied administrative buildings for testing, and check

      In the courtyard of the regional council, in case of a water outage, there are two !!
      With the letters "M" and "Jo" ... Let them start with them !!!
    2. +1
      April 18 2014 22: 50
      The current government of Ukraine is scratching their tongues much, but as it comes down to it, the brains are not enough even for a blow job. laughing
    3. 0
      April 19 2014 04: 29
      OF COURSE OF ALL HANDS FOR, BUT THIS BUSINESS IT HE BELIEVES ONLY ATTORNEY BECAUSE IT BECOMED INSTANTLY TO TAKE ALL THE BUILDINGS IN THE DONETSK REGION, HE DECIDED THAT IT WAS AWESOME, NOW THE TEAM COME COME COME COMES THEY ARE RUNNING OUT Suddenly SCAN the paratroopers and arrived and didn’t give them, insulting, but the shooters at the airdrome got it, I get a scary thought it would be safe to pay the price
  14. 0
    April 18 2014 22: 42
    What is so for the fuk gave. It's a pity of course.
  15. Counter
    +2
    April 18 2014 22: 52
    As a result of lengthy negotiations, they came to only one quite obvious conclusion: it would be better if everyone disarmed, but none of the parties would be able to follow this covenant according to the situation. All remained "with their own people," and the official conclusion was voiced quite publicly: the main thing is that "The beginning of the negotiation process has been laid." And why did the disgraced Mr. Illarionov go out there with so many conclusions of his own? If anyone does not know, then Mr. Illarionov is a completely typical representative of the 5th column from the 90s, who was expelled from power "for non-compliance" 10 years ago, but who continues to shit now in private. High professional in selling your own person.
  16. 0
    April 18 2014 23: 14
    It was a circus through tears:
    http://rusvesna.su/news/1397814131
  17. +4
    April 18 2014 23: 16
    So for what they were Maidan, it would be on the other side of the Dnieper the same poor as they themselves to beat Kolomoisky for joy. Beat yours so that the poor are poor and the Kolomo richer
  18. msv
    +1
    April 18 2014 23: 19
    Quote: boozer
    Yes, there two BMDs were thrown at the approaches, either stalled or stuck ... so they were returned. Well damn the great achievement of the Armed Forces of Ukraine! Progress! fellow love laughing


    Today, approximately 21h30min across Russia 24 refuted this, all six armored vehicles are in Slavyansk (according to the correspondent from the spot)
  19. +1
    April 18 2014 23: 19
    And there too. Just do not laugh too much ...
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BYHwePNOfxA
  20. +1
    April 18 2014 23: 33
    . What the brad. Those in Slavyansk are standing there. Those that were near Sergeevka did not go anywhere either, because outside Donbass a tribunal shines for them. As I understand it, either deza, or those who were helped to pretend to be "like lost" returned.
  21. melkie
    +2
    April 18 2014 23: 46
    Sooner or later, but we must proceed to more active actions, and this applies to the fighters of self-defense of Donbass. Capturing repeaters is the right move, but you should not fight with the army in an open field, near airfields and at remote roadblocks, this is a losing strategy, only at the near approaches to the city can you impose a victorious battle on the army, you are masters in ravines, alleys, bushes and other things. Armored vehicles in the city are vulnerable, and soldiers with the loss of boxes even more so. And their spirit is not so much.
  22. +4
    April 19 2014 00: 14
    Quote: anfil
    Cato Institute employee and former adviser to Russian President Vladimir Putin Andrei Illarionov

    This assistant was imposed on Putin by the Americans at the very beginning of his career and then was knocked out with a bang outside the Russian Federation as an agent of the NSA. I just don’t understand why he is being so elevated, apparently they hope that no one knows.

    Let's go back three years ago, a man looked into the water:


    About Putin and his nomination for a second term and what is it for Ukraine
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxGJ3BcXwJM

    Ukraine will lose itself and its land easily ... I repeat, the records were made three years ago
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLTy3_xR5ZQ

    Look, you will not regret it, here is the man who foresaw everything :)))) I am simply amazed and bow my hat.
    1. +1
      April 19 2014 05: 13
      oh how interesting, why he said so little and when, in an analytical review that was published back in 2008, the most was said about this country, though it was not mentioned about the elite, but all the conclusions were there, it’s bad that the history was forgotten, it was said more that summer, then there was a war in South Ossetia, and they somehow forgot about it,
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  23. 0
    April 19 2014 00: 38
    and someone will give them back, as in a box I see these faces that always blow something, it seems to me that they are all crazy, and it’s not curable that only tapor will help them save them from bad heads!
  24. +2
    April 19 2014 01: 40
    Then a crazy idea came to me about the special operation of Russian special forces. Armed with significant amounts of money, they penetrate into the southeastern regions, into the territory occupied by Ukrainian troops and buy up all fuel and ammunition in the bud. They pay dearly, settlement on the spot. Well this is so, at the level of delirium.))
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      April 19 2014 02: 36
      Offer Zhirinovsky!
  25. +3
    April 19 2014 02: 47
    Here's a note in Murzilka about BMD.
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    April 19 2014 02: 48
    It feels like Russia has shifted responsibility for disrupting hopeless agreements to Kiev!
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    April 19 2014 04: 02
    Everything is much simpler. Uncle Vanya, who sells muffins, approached, made an assessment by poking his armor with his fist, and where he sold it through, they returned as an illiquid asset without a market price. To fix it with a order, then to take it back wassat

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