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Amputational compromise, or why shred Ukraine

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The article proposed below is published on the Ukrainian resource "Controversy". Its author is a prose writer, poet, publicist, scientist and well-known opposition leader Leonid Storch (born 1963), writing on Echo of Moscow and from 2013 onwards, according to Wikipedia, one of the ten most popular local bloggers.


Storch lived and studied in the USSR, in 1989, he emigrated to the USA. In the US, he also studied, from a linguist (a specialist in Chinese), retraining as a lawyer. In 2006, he returned to Russia, but not for long. Three years later, flew to Thailand.

Currently, Mr. Storch lives in Bangkok, without stopping the virtual collaboration with the liberal Russian media.

Editorial "VO"


Amputational compromise, or why shred Ukraine


The fact that the West and Russia have already agreed on the redistribution of Ukraine, and that the Ukrainian authorities do not object to this, writes Leonid Storch in his article. In his opinion, the EU has always looked back on the pro-Russian Donbass, so a new trimmed Ukraine will be beneficial to Europe.

The absurdity of the situation is that the preservation of the integrity of Ukraine is not now a priority for the political leadership of Ukraine. Their priority is the elections scheduled for May 25 and, most importantly, the preservation of power taken by the Maidan from the Yanukovych faction. However, the main goal of the Maidan was not in the government castling, but in creating a strong Ukraine, independent of Moscow, and the integration of such Ukraine into Europe. With all the desire you can not be considered a strong and independent state, the territory of which is bit by bit taken over by a hostile neighbor.

As it should have been supposed, the Kremlin’s imperial ambitions did not end with the Crimea. The Crimean scenario, developed in Moscow, is repeated now in the Donbas and Luhansk region.

SCENARIO. At first, local brigades of declassed elements, headed by several local officials, stage the “will of the people”, seizing a couple of government buildings. At the same time, the Ukrainian authorities, both in Kiev and in the provinces, urge not to succumb to provocations and actively condemn the separatists. Those, in turn, decide on a referendum and self-determination and hang out Russian flags on the captured buildings.

In response, the Ukrainian authorities put forward an ultimatum and threaten to use force. Then, separatists push demonstrators to captured buildings - it is desirable that there be as many women, children and pensioners as possible in order to use them more effectively as a living barrier - and they express support for the referendum. The “H” hour is coming, but the Ukrainian authorities are not taking any action except for new calls to prevent destabilization and fight back.

Then, in the settlements of the regional periphery, “green men” from Russia are announced and, on behalf of the insurgent people, begin to seize strategic military facilities. Ukrainian authorities continue to strongly recommend not to succumb to provocations.

A referendum is held in the final - and the territory is cut off from Ukraine.

It is in this scenario that the Donbas is being cut off. But if the inaction of the Ukrainian government in connection with the Crimea could be explained by the shock and presence of Russian troops in Sevastopol, the position of Kiev politicians towards the Southeast is more like a frank betrayal.

STRANGE WAR AND STRANGE POLICY. The Ukrainian media sadly narrates how the army rents armored vehicles to the separatists and how the separatists occupy new objects. Then we accidentally learn that it is not only the so-called self-proclaimed "Donetsk Republic", but the whole "Federation of South-East of Ukraine" headed by a certain Anatoly Vizir. Then - that leaflets are being distributed in Donetsk demanding to pay the dollar tax of the new “people's” power and voluntarily enroll in the rebel army. The apostates promise to “evict to benders” with, of course, voluntary confiscation of property.

What does the government do when a foreign government sends its military and agents to its territory and creates mass chaos there in order to take it away? It declares a state of emergency and sends troops to protect the state entrusted to it. What are the political leaders of Ukraine doing? Turchinov signs condemning declarations, Tymoshenko conducts consultations with Western politicians, Yatsenyuk discusses the conditions of new loans, and all of them are preparing for elections in the most serious way. In other words, to protect their own state from disintegration and intervention, the Ukrainian leadership is not doing ANYTHING.

In early March, I wrote that the position of the Kiev authorities resembled the Strange War waged by France against the Third Reich in 1939-40, and that then the imitation of the defense of their state ended with its occupation. The events of the past month and a half have confirmed my concerns. Thanks to the “wise” and very strange policy of Kiev, the Crimea is already attached to the Russian Federation (although the world did not recognize this accession), the Donbass is actually out of control of Kiev, the next step is Lugansk, which may be followed by areas.

TIME OF QUESTIONS. The Ukrainian government for a long time introduced all (including the author of this post) to the error of the strength of its armed forces. But already before the beginning of the annexation of Crimea, the Minister of Defense of Ukraine admitted that out of 40 with more than a thousand cadre military personnel, they are only about 6,000. The remaining 75% apparently suffer from consumption, congenital heart disease, poor vision, deafness and, possibly, cerebral palsy. But if this is so, then why were they kept and kept in the cadre army? And if this is not the case, then are these tens of thousands unable to calm down two or three thousand separatists and several hundred "green men" in the Southeast? Of course, they are capable, but for some reason the authorities do not want this to happen.

Assume that, after all, 75% of Ukrainian personnel are really sick and cannot hold even cold weapon. But after all, there is the Right Sector already formed and tested in clashes with the Berkut. But the authorities do not want the Right Sector to prevent rejection of the Southeast. Moreover, the government is struggling with this sector, and two weeks ago, the Rada even adopted a draft resolution on the disarmament of its troops.

But the population of Ukraine is 43 million people (not counting the Crimea). Is it really impossible to carry out a general mobilization or at least form a people's militia in order to curb the "aunts" and "green men", as well as protect the country in the event of massive intervention? No money to buy militia weapons? Or is the fact that the Kiev authorities do not want the participation of the militia?

But even if the Ukrainian government is not able to do anything of the above, then close its own borders so that impudent little people and other disruptive elements do not penetrate, could it at least? But for some reason it turned out to be too much for him.

The Ukrainian leadership has already pleased odious lovers, saying that the EU and the United States should be involved in confronting Moscow over the issue of annexations, not Kiev. Then the authorities distinguished themselves even more, explaining that they did not impose a state of emergency, in order not to suspend the election campaign and not disrupt the May elections. In absurdity, this idea is not inferior to the best pearls of Yanukovich or even Spring, Zhirinovsky or Fedorov. So, the state of emergency in the Donetsk region will prevent the election of the president of Ukraine, but disconnecting this area from Ukraine and joining the Russian Federation is not? I wonder how Kiev is going to hold elections in the territory controlled by a hostile foreign state?

But maybe, in Kiev, they understand everything, but they can't really say anything? Just trying to avoid a collision with a powerful Russian army and, thereby, want to avoid human casualties? But after all, such a collision cannot be avoided if Moscow continues to clean up the region after the region, having finally reached Kreschatik itself?

TIME ANSWERS. The absurdity of the situation is that the preservation of the integrity of Ukraine is not now a priority for the political leadership of Ukraine. Their priority is the elections scheduled for May 25 and, most importantly, the preservation of power taken by the Maidan from the Yanukovich faction and transferred to the anti-Moscow faction, i.e. However, the main goal of Maidan and the February 21 Revolution was not in the government's reshuffling, but in creating a strong Ukraine, independent of Moscow, and integrating such Ukraine into Europe. With all the desire you can not be considered a strong and independent state, the territory of which is bit by bit hosted by a hostile neighbor and which loses control over new areas every week.

I think that in the process of long consultations between Kiev, Moscow and the West in March-April there was a general agreement or, at least, a position that suited all high-ranking politicians (of course, no one “consulted” the people).

The fact that Putin, who at that time was personally engaged in a matter of universal importance, the holding of the Olympics, led Ukraine away from under his nose, outraged him. He decided to answer “according to concepts”: if you want to go to Europe - a good riddance, but without pro-Russian baggage. Customs, in principle, gave the green light to the passage of the train to the West, but ordered the southern and eastern wagons to be disconnected - in compensation for historical proximity, invested funds, “spilled blood”, etc. Moscow is happy with such an outcome: instead of the crane in the sky — that is, the ever-wavering Ukraine of Yanukovych — it’s better to get a tit in a fist, that is, annex several Ukrainian regions.

Kiev is also satisfied with this decision, because the new, curtailed Ukraine will become more homogeneous, more Ukrainian and less Russian. Kiev was not ready for federalization, the only way to preserve the integrity of the country and make it really strong: the remnants of the Soviet totalitarian mentality and the inability to compromise, that is, political immaturity, affected. Monolithic Ukraine will be easier to integrate into Europe and NATO.

The European Union was, of course, interested in the industrial potencies of Eastern Ukraine, but it always looked cautiously at anti-Western sentiments in the Crimea, in the Donbas, etc. The frankly non-European cultural beginnings of these regions, alien mentality, corruption and the mafia of the economy - all these were important factors hindering the EU's readiness for integration with Ukraine. In many ways, for the same reasons, Turkey has not been able to achieve EU membership for several decades. Without a Russian-language ballast, “Ukrainian” Ukraine will be a more attractive candidate for joining the EU and NATO. Therefore, the option of cutting back the country suits both Washington and Brussels.

As a result of these political tricks, the wolf must remain almost full, and the sheep - almost intact. True, without one shin and without one hoof, but still alive. And in time to run again, the experts promise to supply her with a prosthesis using the latest technology, i.e., to secure EU membership. Such is the amputational compromise. Therefore, Ukraine and shred. It is possible that the Geneva talks, which began today, will become the new Munich. However, there is still time to change everything. And if the West shows more determination, amputation can be limited to recognition of the annexation of Crimea, leaving the Southeast where it should be.

There is a simpler, more natural solution: the Ukrainian authorities must reconsider their priorities, recall that their main task is to protect their state and begin to defend it finally: close the borders, carry out a general mobilization, gather militia and fight off the enemy. And if she is unable to do this, then let her leave, or at least not interfere with those who are ready to resist the aggressors.
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  1. AleksPol
    AleksPol April 21 2014 08: 32
    +64
    Leonid Storch Another paedl for sale from the Svanidze cohort. Venediktov and other libera.a.s.t.s.
    1. Duelist
      Duelist April 21 2014 08: 43
      +13
      He wants to do the sharing, the bloodsucker! Such is the kind of war that is being fanned.
      1. W1950
        W1950 April 21 2014 09: 03
        +23
        I don’t swear at the mat, so I’ll say briefly, Woodpecker.
      2. 225chay
        225chay April 21 2014 09: 26
        +4
        Quote: Duelist
        Duelist Today, 08:43 ↑ New
        He wants to do the sharing, the bloodsucker! Such is the kind of war that is being fanned.


        The letters are a bit too much, but you can still see right away that this C is torchy mou.d.i.o.
        1. WKS
          WKS April 21 2014 09: 51
          +4
          Quote: 225chay
          In other words, to protect its own state from collapse and intervention, the Ukrainian leadership does NOTHING.

          Wrong formulated. It is necessary. The current Ukrainian junta is doing everything for the collapse of its own state, collapse and intervention.
          1. CALL.
            CALL. April 21 2014 17: 07
            +11
            But even if the Ukrainian government is not able to do any of the above, then close its own borders so that arrogant little men and other subversive elements do not penetrate, could it at least?

            COULD

            1. demon184
              demon184 April 21 2014 18: 40
              +2
              Putin can be 61 years old
      3. RUSS
        RUSS April 21 2014 09: 34
        +1
        Polish Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski

        According to him, speaking of the federal structure of Ukraine, Russia implies federalization on the model of Bosnia, not the United States, by influencing certain parts of the country, and then depriving it of its integrity. According to The Washington Post, the diplomat explained that it was about destabilizing the situation in the country, making changes to the election calendar and complicating the implementation of economic reforms.

        We will remind, earlier in Donetsk and Kharkov, participants in pro-Russian protest actions seized the buildings of regional administrations, in Lugansk - the administration of the Security Service of Ukraine. Activists demand federalization of the country.
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    3. Sunjar
      Sunjar April 21 2014 08: 52
      +32
      Well, you guys have put all the cons. It's funny to read. From Thailand, what is happening in Ukraine is much more visible.

      The author is one to one old school Bandera. And in Crimea, everyone voted under the barrel of a machine gun pointed to his head, and in the South-East he was completely terrorist-separatists, in contrast to the peaceful Kiev "children".

      The funny thing is that they themselves have come up with the situation and are trying to solve it. But that’s why they don’t succeed. Separation from reality threatens to go into rubbish, which we see. The more such jerks, the better.

      And Leonid Storch needs to throw the STARCHED speedo-trippy prostitute. So that the lesson was for the rest of my life.
      1. Horst78
        Horst78 April 21 2014 09: 41
        +2
        Quote: Sunjar
        From thailand

        Maybe he already changed the gender (with the exception of the genitals)? wassat
      2. Alekseev
        Alekseev April 21 2014 14: 49
        +1
        Quote: Sunjar
        Well, you guys have put all the cons. It's funny to read.

        Funny, but the author is a typical bastard ... laughing
        Only a naive, complete idiot can believe that a handful of separatists and a dozen "green men" are muddying the waters in the East, and the Ukrainian government does not want to establish itself there, although it can ...
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        2. matross
          matross April 21 2014 17: 16
          0
          Quote: Alekseev
          Funny, but the author is a typical bastard

          Yes, and hren with him!
          But the opinion of this bastard about the existence of certain agreements on the division of Ukraine does not seem particularly fantastic. Politics is a dirty business, sometimes bloody ... but you have to negotiate, otherwise "the continuation of politics by other means" begins (c)
      3. koshh
        koshh April 21 2014 15: 51
        0
        Quote: Sunjar
        And Leonid Storch needs to throw the STARCHED speedo-trippy prostitute. So that the lesson was for the rest of my life.

        Easy you want to let him go, dear. We need a girl with TRISICHUKHA (tripper, syphilis, plague, cholera). Then the rest of the life will be short and bright.
      4. tianna
        tianna April 21 2014 16: 12
        +1
        Quote: Sunjar
        that they themselves have come up with the situation and are trying to solve it

        And in each of them in his head - His own situation and His vision ... Dreamers, eprst)
      5. nika407
        nika407 April 21 2014 18: 09
        +3

        Odessa met Tyagnibok with garlic and holy water
    4. Sakhalininsk
      Sakhalininsk April 21 2014 08: 54
      +11
      Quote: AleksPol
      Leonid Storch


      You are right the typical liberoid fecal mass howling about the damned Muscovite Mordor and the radiant brazenly-Saxon lights carrying happiness to the world. These mongrels just forget that people have long understood XU from XU! That is what shit and liberoids fed Russia in the 90s still hiccups.
    5. Validator
      Validator April 21 2014 08: 57
      +24
      Quote: AleksPol
      Leonid Storch Another paedl for sale from the Svanidze cohort. Venediktov and other libera.a.s.t.s.

      Venediktov compared to Storch is just a model of adequacy.
      I registered on the Echo forum several times to oppose such as Storch, but after several posts they banyat and delete, although I write exclusively correctly. There is still freedom of speech
      1. AleksPol
        AleksPol April 21 2014 09: 13
        +3
        Is this the frog princess or something, and who will kiss her? laughing
        1. Strezhevchanin
          Strezhevchanin April 21 2014 09: 42
          +7
          Quote: AleksPol
          Is this the frog princess or something, and who will kiss her?

          Come on, give me my straw. fellow
          1. AleksPol
            AleksPol April 21 2014 11: 12
            +2
            It’s dangerous if the stink bursts all over Europe lol
        2. hrych
          hrych April 21 2014 16: 15
          +2
          Princess Toad.
          1. nika407
            nika407 April 21 2014 20: 10
            +3
            We also have our own Kunst camera.
            1. CALL.
              CALL. April 22 2014 01: 05
              +1
              These are still being traded.
      2. Anisim1977
        Anisim1977 April 21 2014 22: 09
        0
        Ugh !!!!!!!
        Yes, for any gingerbread !!!! wassat
    6. alex-s
      alex-s April 21 2014 09: 15
      +4
      Currently, Mr. Storch lives in Bangkok, without stopping the virtual collaboration with the liberal Russian media.


      It would be better if he was stupidly lying on the beach - he would look smarter!
    7. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov April 21 2014 10: 28
      +5
      Quote: AleksPol
      Another p.a.d.la.a

      And such characters parasitize on the body of the "public"!
      Has he recently been somewhere? In a mental hospital without access to information? He accused the junta of not carrying out mobilization! Wake up a tree! They announce it (mobilization) three times a day!
      "Troops able to hold AT LEAST cold steel in their hands!
      Hawk to eat! It’s much harder to keep cold!
      "Several hundred little green men" - yes, you are not yourself, a nice person! If we talk about the war with Russia, then the expense of the little green men will go to the millions!
      Yes, it would be with him! I am saddened by another thing: "People climb into slaughter, constantly risking their lives, in order to ensure at least not the HUNGRY existence of their loved ones! But such individuals parasitize on their brain and live much more satisfying!
    8. Begemot
      Begemot April 21 2014 10: 37
      +1
      And it seems that not the most informed bastard.
      (quote) ... "creating a strong Ukraine, independent of Moscow" ....
      How can an arm or leg be independent of the whole body, unless amputated.
    9. Begemot
      Begemot April 21 2014 10: 37
      0
      And it seems that not the most informed bastard.
      (quote) ... "creating a strong Ukraine, independent of Moscow" ....
      How can an arm or leg be independent of the whole body, unless amputated.
    10. Stalnov I.P.
      Stalnov I.P. April 21 2014 11: 12
      0
      Lenya, you are right as always, it was RUSSIA that threw Molotov cocktails at Berkut, shooting in the back with your own maydanuts, bought back your papers for $ 3 billion, sold gas at a discounted price of $ 285. The power in Kiev is crazy, there is no other way to call it, just like the fact that your thoughts are the thoughts of a "gray mare," you are there in the liberal camp all about ... well, as a classic born to crawl said, he cannot fly.
    11. Ross
      Ross April 21 2014 12: 11
      0
      Leonid Storch Another paedl for sale from the Svanidze cohort. Venediktov and other libera.a.s.t.s.

      Stubborn in opposition, stuck in his illusory reality - these need to be treated. They need psychological rehabilitation to return to normal.
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    13. oblako
      oblako April 21 2014 12: 17
      0
      That's what blogger means. He does not own the situation, but climbs the audience with his own vision. What's the point of publishing it here? In Bangkok, then in Bangkok ..,. The state of Ukraine did not take place. This is all information. And all the reasons why he will be torn apart. "be the West more decisive" - ​​another option is not being considered? And if Russia shows decisiveness? One thing is true, if there is any conflict in Europe, it plays into the hands of the amerikos ... I'm afraid only, in this case, Europe will not be limited and it will not sit out overseas ... If, of course, Russia is decisive.
    14. RND
      RND April 21 2014 14: 03
      0
      Quote: AleksPol
      Leonid Storch Another paedl for sale from the Svanidze cohort. Venediktov and other libera.a.s.t.s.

      And the last name is speaking. See the best mushrooms in Bangkok ...
    15. Spnsr
      Spnsr April 21 2014 19: 51
      0
      something Leonid Storch is somehow backward! reading the article, there is a feeling that the aftors were distracted from some very interesting occupation for him, he did not even understand the essence, maybe he didn’t even get into YouTube, he blurted out from the bulldozer, chewed a little on incompetence for the volume and plucked (zero) into blog, or where this text is pulled.
    16. papas-57
      papas-57 April 21 2014 20: 48
      0
      '' Leonid Storch Another p.a.dl. is corrupt. '' It is interesting to listen to such speeches from the lips of a non-human who has already betrayed his homeland by flight to Pin-dosia.
  2. Egoza
    April 21 2014 08: 41
    +16
    This is the enemy and the enemy is smart! Now, if SUCH come to power, it will be really bad. And the "owners" will try to change the current ones, who have not justified trust, for such as Storch. And they have a rich "reserve" in this regard !!!! am
    However, while these are trying !!! am And pay attention - everything is according to the recipe of the given Mr. ... who "remembered" the Berkut, tested in the collisions! Was the request to reconcile with his submission? And at the same time basely continue the "offensive"

    Last night, a message came -

    In the vicinity of Slavyansk, shooting is again heard

    Forces of "self-defense" of Sloviansk declare about shelling by unknown persons of three checkpoints in the suburb of Sloviansk.

    “Our three checkpoints are again fired upon. Our mobile groups have already left there,” a representative of the self-defense headquarters told Interfax.

    Interfax does not yet have information from other sources, including the security forces.
    XXXX
    1. avt
      avt April 21 2014 09: 44
      +5
      Quote: Egoza
      This is the enemy and the enemy is smart!

      Here is this writer about a clever bunny ??? Yes, we have such Mlechino Svanidze Kasparovs as in the market for greenery in bunches. A won-over feature of the 90s, another thing is that on the project "Ukraine1991" they slow down the comprehension of the ongoing processes - the Estonians are resting!
      Quote: Egoza
      Now, if SUCH come to power, it will be very bad

      These are the kind of intellectuals who NEVER come to power, they are essentially always against ANY power, they are carriers of certain "secrets" to which they have appointed themselves and can and will only always demand in their kitchens, but who is polish and impudent, how is this a writer about bunnies in Thailand - you did everything wrong and needs to be redone. To the question - "How?" You will always be answered with general phrases - "Something like this." In the sense - you do it when we like it, we will tell you. In short, all this is the materialized plot of the tale of Pushkin's goldfish, and these "thinkers" are completely excluded for yourself getting a broken trough. They are so "smart"! Already with their "mind" and trough under their feet !? Nah, did not get through the tale, Pushkin wrote. laughing
    2. wax
      wax April 21 2014 11: 51
      +1
      Turchinov and Yatsenyuk voiced the ideas of more intelligent opponents of Russia - Western political strategists. Rumors went about changing the Constitution, recognizing governors elected by the people, the status of the Russian language, opening individual caches of law enforcement officers, stopping the rattling of weapons ... But this is only because it did not work right away and forever. Everything is done to legitimize the election, after which no one will take pacifying words seriously. The most interesting thing is that now it is Putin and Russia who want to save Ukraine from collapse, but, of course, having in mind friendly Russia and Ukraine. There is still such a chance.
    3. Cynic
      Cynic April 21 2014 12: 47
      0
      Quote: Egoza
      This is the enemy and the enemy is smart!

      That the enemy is clear, that clever, is how to look, the article is inwardly contrary to well-known facts.
      The lawyer and creature of Yarosh only clearly writes, the only way to silence _ to wet!
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker April 21 2014 13: 40
        +2
        Quote: Cynic
        That the enemy is clear, that clever, is how to look, the article is inwardly contrary to well-known facts.

        It is precisely on the contradiction (distortion) of facts that the whole rhetoric of the article is built. Only the other day answered exactly the same nonsense on a branch Special Forces of Russia published a response to the Ukrainian General of the SBU.
        And the main meaning of the info-nonsense lies in the declaration to the "advanced hulks" that the goals of the revolutionaries on the Maidan have been achieved (the corrupt and stolen power of Yanyk and Co has been thrown off) - in Baghdad Kiev is calm - hostile Russia has insidiously seized Crimea. These "three whales" of pro-Bandera propaganda are hammered into the head of Svidomo. Hence the throwing of people in the South-East - to which shore to be washed ...
        1. Cynic
          Cynic April 21 2014 18: 46
          0
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          And the main meaning of the info-nonsense lies in the declaration to the "advanced hulks" that the goals of the revolutionaries on the Maidan have been achieved (the corrupt and stolen power of Yanyk and Co has been thrown off) - everything is calm in Baghdad Kiev

          Yes, somehow I had a completely different opinion _ MAIDAN TRIED! All to protect the achievements of the Maidan!
          Here is the red thread of this opus.
    4. Anisim1977
      Anisim1977 April 21 2014 22: 13
      0
      Yes, the city is significant !!!!
      The name is strong !!!
      Name worthy !!!!!
      Glory to the living !!!
      Eternal memory to people - those who laid down their lives for others !!!!!!!
  3. lozh76
    lozh76 April 21 2014 08: 42
    +6
    Why are you the author smoked that you carry such H.R.E.N. ???
    1. marder4
      marder4 April 21 2014 08: 46
      +3
      something, but you don’t know what ...
      1. Strezhevchanin
        Strezhevchanin April 21 2014 09: 45
        0
        Quote: marder4
        something, but you don’t know what ...

        The first tranche of democracy from Afghanistan wassat
        1. Lk17619
          Lk17619 April 21 2014 10: 13
          0
          Quote: Strezhevchanin
          Why are you the author smoked that you carry such H.R.E.N. ???

          How what ??? That cannabis that the United States will purchase from Ukraine, because its not so picky)))))
          http://topwar.ru/42385-ssha-sobralis-podderzhat-ekonomiku-ukrainy-zakupkami-kono
          pli.html
  4. riding
    riding April 21 2014 08: 42
    +6
    The sentences from the last paragraph are completely unrealistic and show that the author is another utopian. Well, his insights themselves are another version of events that are not related to reality, like many others. The author may not like Russia, but why offend him when time itself shows him that analysis is not his strongest part.
    1. Anper
      Anper April 21 2014 11: 58
      0
      Quote: koni
      the author is another utopian.

      Here, at the memory, such utopians are a dime a dozen. The media supports and develops an alternative device for the brain of such individuals. But not only! Despite the falling hryvnia and expensive gasoline, prices changed only for some types of goods. And, for the rest, it is insignificant - by 1 -2 UAH It seems that this level is maintained artificially - before the election. Or maybe the reserve is organized.
    2. Alexanderrr
      Alexanderrr April 21 2014 12: 27
      +1
      The author may not like Russia, but why insult him

      Since the whole article is offensive in nature, the reaction to his writings is appropriate. The substitution of concepts when the separatists call terrorists and separatists those who really are not, an insult to most of the regular military personnel who are not ready to fight against their people, a call with with the help of a handful of militant, right-wing fascist fascists to crush those who do not agree to live by totalitarian laws, who actually know their great history not by writing in modern Ukrainian textbooks, but by the works of real scientists, who restore past events from chronicles and monuments, who want to live in Ukraine, strong and with an honest history, and not in an increasingly blue EU, which is therefore doomed to extinction.
      Therefore, the author of the article is a LIAR!
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  6. Niki
    Niki April 21 2014 08: 43
    0
    it doesn’t even matter how corrupt this Pa Storch is, but the diagnosis is obvious: brain maidan
  7. Good cat
    Good cat April 21 2014 08: 46
    +3
    Such are they - these "citizens of the world" ... v. Volota, if in short
  8. KBPC50
    KBPC50 April 21 2014 08: 46
    +6
    Very good article! Finally he confessed! He doesn't need the Ukrainian people. He needs green candy wrappers, which the owners of Euromaidan have already paid him for sure. There are also "liberals"! They will sell everything, even their own country and the people in it, just to eat one lobster (that is, sea crayfish). So they become themselves in a cancer pose.
  9. mamont5
    mamont5 April 21 2014 08: 46
    +1
    Well, the fantasies of a liberal on the theme of evil imperial Russia and Ukraine striving for freedom. So much of this shit has been poured on us lately that we're used to it. It would be high time to know the honor of gentlemen liberals, if such a concept as "honor", of course, they know.
  10. Same lech
    Same lech April 21 2014 08: 49
    +3
    There is also a simpler, more natural solution: the Ukrainian government should reconsider its priorities, remember that its main task is to protect its state


    The priority of power is the protection of their PEOPLE.

    Kiev put at the forefront war with its people .... a deliberately losing situation.

    It turns out the people under power but should be the other way around .... power for the people.
  11. andko5
    andko5 April 21 2014 08: 50
    +2
    What rubbish and chaos in the head of this "writer"! Not able to understand simple things himself, but "wisely" teaches everyone ...
  12. Million
    Million April 21 2014 08: 51
    +3
    5 column in all its glory!
  13. igordok
    igordok April 21 2014 08: 51
    +3
    The expert of the OSCE and the European Commission Evgeny Tsybulenko - this Estonian citizen and author of Ukrainian laws, proposes to cut Ukraine.
    In a statement published on the largest Estonian portal Delfi, Yevgeny Nikolayevich writes: “Discarding false shame, we must admit that in its current form Ukraine as an independent state did not take place, is doomed and has no prospects. Eastern Ukraine is a heavy ballast for the state, which will drown the whole country. The idea of ​​collegiality today, alas, does not work. If we don’t keep Ukraine in the regions where the Ukrainian people live, and not cool people who don’t remember either their kinship, their language, or their history, we’ll lose everything. ”

    Sorry, dear readers, but this should be quoted further. It's worth it:

    “The eastern regions should be temporarily withdrawn from Ukraine. Having got rid of ballast, Western Ukraine will have every opportunity to build a democratic European state and speedy accession to the EU and NATO. After this, it remains only to wait until the historical conditions mature so that a powerful and successful Ukraine can pick up its former territories, as well as territories where Ukrainians compactly live.

    It will happen much faster than many people think. Europe began to actively get rid of energy dependence, which means that the end of Russia in its current form is inevitable. The territory of the Russian Federation will quickly begin to disintegrate into specific principalities, and Ukraine will simply be forced to take under the protection of Ukrainians living outside its borders.

    Nevertheless, the removal of the eastern regions from the country's composition is only the first step. There is no need to reinvent the wheel - you can use the successful Estonian model.

    Among other things, a very conservative citizenship policy must be implemented with the mandatory introduction of “gray passports”. Persons who are not loyal to Ukraine should not receive citizenship. At the same time, it is necessary to create all conditions for moving loyal Ukrainians from eastern Ukraine to western. ”


    http://perevodika.ru/articles/13278.html
    1. andj61
      andj61 April 21 2014 09: 37
      +2
      Another, now Estonian-Ukrainian fascist.
      1. Tektor
        Tektor April 21 2014 14: 57
        0
        Listen, you are politically arguing!
        The goal of the states is to hang what remains of Ukraine on the neck of Russia, so that we break. The greater the discord and chaos in Ukraine, the better for the west. Putin clearly stated that Russia alone will not help the Ukrainian economy. There are preliminary calculations that show that the Russian economy will go bankrupt in 3 years when Ukraine joins with its debts. This is the main goal: therefore, the West will not help Ukraine.
        At the same time, the crisis in Ukraine will contribute to the expansion of the crisis in the EU, which will force the Europeans to bow to Uncle Sam. That is what is needed to organize the Euro-Atlantic economic union and block Russia. This is a strategic goal, and everything else is dancing.
        The game for the Russian Federation comes down to breaking the blockade. And here it is extremely important to conclude a deal on cooperation with Iran, Pakistan and India. A good option is to establish close economic cooperation with Argentina, Venezuela, Nicaragua ...
  14. hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh April 21 2014 08: 52
    +7
    Another article urging Ukrainians to go to kill Ukrainians. Under any pretext. The fact that the new illegitimate authorities will deceive Russia said 22 more, as soon as they declared themselves power.
    Which bloggers from far away, have law enforcement officers besieging the rain made them kill people with the wrong hands. There are no other options?
    Short plan.
    1. Recognize Russian as the second state.
    2. Repeal trade bans with Russia. Until you learn to work according to European standards, work according to Russian. The main thing is money for the state, for which you do not have to pay interest as for loans.
    3. Create a European standard ministry if you really want to go to Europe. Which would help those who wish to switch to European standards. To ask in Europe not for loans, but for them to build farms and factories according to the standards they need and teach them how to work. Send Ukrainians to study in Europe instead of loans.
    4. Return the army to the place of deployment. The army should not under any circumstances fight with its people. Yes, and she does not want, so why distribute weapons to the population through the army.
    5. Start disarmament from Kiev. The rest of the cities will be able to surrender their weapons in Kiev. But it is difficult.
    6. The police must protect everyone, regardless of language and stripes, and suppress and arrest everyone who violates the order under the camera. He walks with a weapon, not a military man. Little by little, but to give the police the right to use weapons, but what is it they took the fashion of policemen to kick. This is not according to the law.))) I will quote Kuchma from the book "Ukraine is not Russia": "Ukrainians live according to the law, and Russians live according to concepts." The law should be the same for everyone. But you have to start from the place where it started.
    What kind of strategist am I))))
    1. andj61
      andj61 April 21 2014 09: 41
      +2
      Good plan. Only already unrealistic. Hardly:
      1 Junta will accept it.
      2 Southeast wants to live with the "Svidomo" after the spilled blood. Or I'm wrong?
      This plan should have been adopted 22.02.2014. Then it could work.
      And he ousted the article - it smells of rot.
  15. balamut
    balamut April 21 2014 08: 53
    +1
    "Currently Mr. Storch lives in Bangkok" - well from there then yes. everything is clearly visible .......
  16. cybernetick
    cybernetick April 21 2014 08: 53
    +2
    The author is Russophobe paranoid maydaun syndrome,
    close borders, conduct general mobilization, gather a militia and fight back the enemy
    that is, to destroy those who disagree with the authorities of Kiev. Sturch fascist.
  17. Cossacks
    Cossacks April 21 2014 08: 54
    +2
    Minus and no comment, too much wasted on words.
  18. serega.fedotov
    serega.fedotov April 21 2014 08: 57
    +4
    Russia and the West couldn’t agree on the division of Ukraine !!! Why should we negotiate something, if we can gradually return all of Ukraine? But as for the accession (which the West dreams of), a single 50 Ukraine will be able to dictate its own will of the EU, And a lot small Ukraine, on the contrary, they will carry out any orders! So, the plan for dividing Ukraine in the West will certainly exist!
    1. Ace in the sleeve
      Ace in the sleeve April 21 2014 10: 29
      0
      Russia and the West couldn’t agree on the division of Ukraine !!! Why should we negotiate something, if we can gradually return all of Ukraine? But as for the accession (which the West dreams of), a single 50 Ukraine will be able to dictate its own will of the EU, And a lot small Ukraine, on the contrary, they will carry out any orders! So, the plan for dividing Ukraine in the West will certainly exist!


      At least he gives a version of why nothing is being done by Kiev. And why, especially, no one is rocking about the Crimea, Donetsk and Lugansk. And Europe is more profitable to digest Ukraine in parts.

      Here someone has a different version, why not introduce an emergency? Logically - only because of the elections, which do not want to disrupt under any sauce. So far, all decisions of Kiev and all potential agreements that they can sign have been written with pitchforks on the water, because there is no official legitimation. But after the elections, they can even join the EU, sign up for loans or sell the country to "foreign investors." Legally, they will be eligible.
  19. smart Fox
    smart Fox April 21 2014 08: 58
    +5
    Another smart guy. How many km from Kiev to Bangkok? 10 thousand or 20 thousand. Well, at such and such a distance you can analyze the current situation. I would have come to Kiev or Donetsk, or I would have presented my idiotic calculations to Putin at a press conference. What should we do. how to equip Ukraine? Philosopher under Thai palm trees. If my heart aches so much about "Ridnaya Nenka", then socks in a suitcase and in Kiev. and so you can chat about anything. for example, about how to equip Chile or Bolivia.
  20. desant_doktor
    desant_doktor April 21 2014 09: 00
    +3
    Oh, how mister Storch is upset! It's really nice to watch and listen to! I did not make one conclusion that logically follows from the narrative: Turchinov, Yaytsenyukh and "Right Sector" are Putin's agents. And that's all! Reached out, damn it! bully
  21. mig31
    mig31 April 21 2014 09: 00
    +1
    The line is Zapadenskoe surname, from there and order ...
  22. zzzeka
    zzzeka April 21 2014 09: 02
    +2
    Broadcasts from his bell tower. But federalization is a constitutional (legal) process. And the law in Ukraine is now just extravaganza. Those who have settled in Kiev and would be happy to leave, but there is nowhere to go, so the only way to survive is a military conflict (to hold elections, such as "legitimizing" their presence in power, and then "legally" sounding the alarm and defending themselves from the foe and protecting Svidomo from the unseen ... Otherwise, the constitutional process, i.e. the process is legal, where, according to the law, it will be necessary to answer for the whole mess created and, most importantly, for the death of people.
  23. MolGro
    MolGro April 21 2014 09: 03
    +3
    The level of corruption in the west is much higher than in Russia !!
    And low indicators are achieved by controlling the media and promoting a tolerant attitude to this phenomenon (the so-called lobbying).
    As a result, there is no corruption in the West, but there is a lobby, and the fact that sometimes it gets to the press is mainly related to local disassemblies and the discharge of a competitor!
  24. Zomanus
    Zomanus April 21 2014 09: 07
    +3
    The article is interesting. If you drop the injections of Russia, then the basic idea is clear-the state of Ukraine within its current borders is not interesting to the new government. Not interesting to the government, not interesting to the Europeans. Of course, we must pretend that we are against a split, but in such a way as to maintain the appearance of significance. Maybe that’s why we don’t see active gestures from interested countries, because everything goes on behind the scenes.
    1. Alexanderrr
      Alexanderrr April 21 2014 12: 42
      +1
      Quote: Zomanus
      The article is interesting. If you drop the injections of Russia, then the basic idea is clear-the state of Ukraine within its current borders is not interesting to the new government. Not interesting to the government, not interesting to the Europeans. Of course, we must pretend that we are against a split, but in such a way as to maintain the appearance of significance. Maybe that’s why we don’t see active gestures from interested countries, because everything goes on behind the scenes.

      Maybe because no one expected such a reaction from Russia. Everyone is still in shock!
  25. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 April 21 2014 09: 10
    +1
    There is a simpler, more natural solution: the Ukrainian authorities must reconsider their priorities, recall that their main task is to protect their state and begin to defend it finally: close the borders, carry out a general mobilization, gather militia and fight off the enemy. And if she is unable to do this, then let her leave, or at least not interfere with those who are ready to resist the aggressors.

    Pisaka Storch is a complete ignoramus.
    The enemies of Ukraine are not outside its borders, but inside.
    The Ukrainian people, who defeated the Nazis and Ukrainian nationalists of the OUN-UPA, will never agree to live under the rule of the fascists of Bandera and recognize the birthday of Hitler's executioner and punisher Bandera as a national holiday.
    80% of the population who constantly speak Russian will never agree to abandon their native Russian language for the sake of a handful of neo-Nazi zapadentsev.
  26. Boralex63
    Boralex63 April 21 2014 09: 14
    0
    ... He is in Thailand ...
  27. kaa1977
    kaa1977 April 21 2014 09: 16
    0
    An interesting vision of the situation. But for some reason vague doubts torment me.
  28. igorra
    igorra April 21 2014 09: 17
    +1
    Writers, philosophers, and other liberal intelligentsia have always gone west of Russia and in recent times, but if they had written or responded well to their homeland, it is possible with sadness that they could not improve some of the conditions they knew, but now they are always angry and disdain for his people. Therefore, among them there are no Dostoevsky, Turgenev, Bunin ...
  29. Fish supervision
    Fish supervision April 21 2014 09: 17
    +3
    Yeah, the nightingales of the Pentagon crow their throats
  30. Cormorants
    Cormorants April 21 2014 09: 18
    0
    Storch fool!
  31. Flinky
    Flinky April 21 2014 09: 19
    +2
    Stupid article of a stupid provocateur with the party nickname "Storch".
    Ukraine must answer for everything. Especially for the fact that since the 50s of the 20th century it allowed you to set yourself against Russia. Along the way, she will understand who is her real friend and who is the pig’s tail. If at the same time the territories fall off from it, it will be the fault of Ukraine itself. Such is the train and zwang.
  32. maturity
    maturity April 21 2014 09: 20
    0
    The author has brain obstruction.
  33. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m April 21 2014 09: 26
    +5
    Minister of Defense of Ukraine admitted that out of more than 40 thousand personnel, only about 6,000 are combat-ready. The remaining 75% apparently suffer from consumption, congenital heart disease, poor vision, deafness, and possibly even cerebral palsy

    The author, it seems, does not suspect that the fighting efficiency of the army is determined not only by the state of health of the servicemen. Lack of equipment, the lowest level of training of personnel, unwillingness to fight against their own people are not taken into account. And this miracle in feathers is considered the smartest representative of the country, a "scientist", so to speak. It is easy to advise from Bangkok what, to whom and how to do it. And to come to steer the process is weak? We would love to laugh at such a "helmsman".
  34. driver
    driver April 21 2014 09: 27
    0
    Yeahhhh. The author is full of cattle
  35. surovts.valery
    surovts.valery April 21 2014 09: 29
    +2
    There is a simpler, more natural solution: the Ukrainian authorities must reconsider their priorities, recall that their main task is to protect their state and begin to defend it finally: close the borders, carry out a general mobilization, gather militia and fight off the enemy. And if she is unable to do this, then let her leave, or at least not interfere with those who are ready to resist the aggressors.

    The author proceeds from a flawed, characteristic for all Svidomo position: again, Russia is to blame for everything. And we must proceed from this. A state called Ukraine is very painful, is in a heavy coma. Sick people who are now in power, sick of its institutions (army, government). Neither the closure of borders, nor general mobilization, nor all kinds of militias will save the situation. We need a highly qualified doctor, the one who is trying to treat from across the ocean - a charlatan, will not help. There is such a doctor, the treatment process has begun, it will hurt, without anesthesia, it is necessary to remove a lot of malignant tumors, and then long-term therapy. I hope that the patient will not remain disabled, but will become healthy and cheerful.
  36. maxbrov74
    maxbrov74 April 21 2014 09: 35
    +3
    Its author is prose writer, poet, publicist, scientist and well-known oppositionist Leonid Storch (

    As I will not turn on Echo, I am immediately glad for the state. Our liberal get-together is filling up with new Lomonosovs. If you are not a guest of the studio, then you are sure to be a prominent scientist (I would like to know more about which sciences), a well-known publicist, a talented poet. And, of course, the oppositionist, that is, in the only correct interpretation of Echo, is an honest and decent person, a bearer of truth in the latter, as its instance. It is embarrassing, and at the same time pleases here, that the Ivanovs in this get-together are extremely low percentage. The surnames of these guardians for strange values ​​generally end in a non-Slavic way. All some felgenhauers, Venediktovs, Shanderovichs, now Storch has appeared. Prominent Slavophiles. Most have a second citizenship. More often Israeli.
    1. Alexanderrr
      Alexanderrr April 21 2014 12: 54
      +1
      Quote: maxbrov74
      Its author is prose writer, poet, publicist, scientist and well-known oppositionist Leonid Storch (

      As I will not turn on Echo, I am immediately glad for the state. Our liberal get-together is filling up with new Lomonosovs. If you are not a guest of the studio, then you are sure to be a prominent scientist (I would like to know more about which sciences), a well-known publicist, a talented poet. And, of course, the oppositionist, that is, in the only correct interpretation of Echo, is an honest and decent person, a bearer of truth in the latter, as its instance. It is embarrassing, and at the same time pleases here, that the Ivanovs in this get-together are extremely low percentage. The surnames of these guardians for strange values ​​generally end in a non-Slavic way. All some felgenhauers, Venediktovs, Shanderovichs, now Storch has appeared. Prominent Slavophiles. Most have a second citizenship. More often Israeli.

      In fact, I agree, just do not call goats lomonosov. The great Russian scientist did not deserve such neglect!
  37. Orc-xnumx
    Orc-xnumx April 21 2014 09: 39
    +1
    Minus for the "hostile neighbor"! Russia is not Ukraine's enemy! Kiev junta, sold to the amerikosy - yes, the worst enemy! But the Kiev junta protects the interests of their masters, not the Ukrainian people! Otherwise - false propaganda, which is full of the "liberal" press!
  38. Mareman Vasilich
    Mareman Vasilich April 21 2014 09: 47
    +1
    I have always been amazed by this resource by the ease with which it allows stamping Russophobic articles of all sorts and mpazes here.
    1. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 April 21 2014 11: 52
      0
      Regarding the ease of printing of Russophobic articles. Everything is very, very simple here. If a slightly weakened hostile principle is introduced into the body, the body learns to deal with it and, when it encounters a large and not weakened beginning, fights it quite successfully. The vaccine is called. If you print only laudatory toasts - the resource will turn into a continuous fuss and approval. There is also a real opportunity to think and reliably navigate the proposed articles, analyze and draw conclusions, i.e. to think, and not become like rams cheerfully following the slaughter.
      1. lg41
        lg41 April 21 2014 15: 08
        +1
        Let’s then print the letters that the indigenous people of the eastern regions of Ukraine receive that they urgently need to leave their native lands and leave on all four sides, because Now Svidomo Ukrainians from Gallichin claim on these lands.
  39. GRune
    GRune April 21 2014 09: 53
    0
    then really, these tens of thousands are not able to calm down two or three thousand separatists and several hundred "green men" in the Southeast? Of course, they are capable, but for some reason the authorities do not want this to happen.
    The moron is liberal because they do not want to fight with the civilian population!
  40. serge
    serge April 21 2014 09: 54
    +2
    Mobilization? And how to feed the mobilized, if the army, as it turned out, has nothing to feed? And will the mobilized ones move to Kiev?
  41. Kuvabatake
    Kuvabatake April 21 2014 09: 57
    0
    Full HSE One gate play. I didn’t even finish reading negative
  42. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf April 21 2014 09: 58
    +2
    Quote: Mareman Vasilich
    I have always been amazed by this resource by the ease with which it allows stamping Russophobic articles of all sorts and mpazes here.

    This is normal.
    We very often write in our comments the phrase "I don't understand why, ...... how, ...... what, .... how", etc.
    Therefore, such articles need to be known and read. To see who and what feed the people.
    You need to see what the youth are raised on. The fact that "They lie, they blame, they are bad ..." This is understandable. But this is not enough. Do not forget that any article is an ideological weapon. And any weapon needs to be studied in order to be able to resist.
    1. lg41
      lg41 April 21 2014 15: 18
      0
      To study or to distribute?
      Posting an article on the site is the dissemination of information first of all. Reading this article on the site and writing reviews is an in-depth assimilation of information. From this stage of knowledge to the stage of "learn to resist" oh how far
  43. Chukcha
    Chukcha April 21 2014 09: 59
    +1
    However, the main goal of the Maidan and the February 21 Revolution was not government castling, but to create a strong Ukraine, independent of Moscow, and the integration of such Ukraine into Europe.


    The author has clearly "rosy" ideas about Europe's view of Ukraine. Europe needs a "strong Ukraine" only for the development of military operations against Russia. No more. Do the Ukrainians need it? I doubt it. Rather, Europe needs a country that is economically weak and highly dependent on Europe, of course, as opposed to Russia.
  44. sichevik
    sichevik April 21 2014 10: 00
    0
    I didn’t even read it to the middle ... Too many letters ... Another liberal hysteria. Sibling of the singer Makaronich.
  45. tank64rus
    tank64rus April 21 2014 10: 02
    +3
    Under Joseph Vissarionych, it would be feared to publish such a message. Yes, what am I writing? He would now be sitting in Kiev and writing health resorts in honor of the CPSU. That is the tragedy of Ukraine, that there they drove with their minds and rule like.
  46. Poppy
    Poppy April 21 2014 10: 03
    +3
    filthy little thing
  47. pazuhinm
    pazuhinm April 21 2014 10: 10
    +1
    "the new stripped-down Ukraine will become more homogeneous" - I would say that it will become a one-time use ... he let it go and left it ... And the democratic West will "sail away" the Ukrainian Ukraine in full ...
  48. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 21 2014 10: 13
    +2
    The article is crazy nonsense. Liberast and he is a liberal in Thailand. Another howling voice in the howling wolf pack choir.
  49. Alexanderrr
    Alexanderrr April 21 2014 10: 25
    +1
    Why is the date of the author’s death not indicated at the beginning of the article? (Question, of course, rhetorical) Disorder.
    Further, those 75% of the personnel of the Ukrainian Armed Forces are just healthy and their brains are all right, therefore they are in no hurry to go kill their compatriots. And then the fascist ugly spawn, then the bishop of the right sector, it doesn’t matter what to do, if only the whole crowd would pay one, but pay more for each killed person, he’s cowardly against those who can repulse adequately minded Ukrainians.
  50. Agent 008
    Agent 008 April 21 2014 10: 29
    +8
    Beauty is "Terrible" power ...