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Strong is always right

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Strong is always rightMilitary power was the decisive, if not the only factor that determined the outcome of the current Crimean campaign. It is difficult to find examples of such a clear lesson on how important it is to pay attention to your own aircraft.


After the collapse of the Soviet Union, Ukraine received a truly magnificent army - three very strong military districts of the second strategic echelon and three air armies (not counting the powerful arsenal of strategic nuclear forces), the total number of which was about 800 thousand people. Moreover, the troops were equipped with a huge amount of the most modern military equipment. In count tanks (more than 6,1 thousand) and combat aircraft (more than 1,1 thousand) Ukraine occupied the fourth place in the world after the USA, Russia and China.

EXPECTED CAPACITY

Now almost everyone has forgotten how much at the beginning of 90's in our media there were horror stories about a possible war between Russia and Ukraine. But in the event of such a war, the army of Ukraine would have a significant superiority over the Russian Armed Forces in the European part of the country: we got mostly weak third-tier districts with cropped divisions and outdated equipment, as well as groups of troops "hovering" in Eastern Europe, randomly withdrawn "in pure field. " Even after Washington and Moscow conquered Kiev and persuaded him to abandon the nuclear weapons, it almost did not change anything - the starting conditions for military construction in Ukraine were simply luxurious, definitely the best among all countries of the former USSR.

Especially in view of the most powerful personnel potential and highly developed military industrial complex. Ukraine received at least 700 enterprises of the Soviet military-industrial complex and was able to produce almost any equipment. In particular, it turned out to be a monopolist in the post-Soviet space for the production of heavy liquid intercontinental ballistic missiles and launch vehicles, aircraft carriers, heavy military transport aircraft and helicopter engines.

The crushing defeat of the army in the post-Soviet period by the leadership of their own country definitely has no analogues in modern stories. All four presidents made a “feasible contribution” to it, it was absolutely wrongful to blame everyone on one Yanukovich, as it is now fashionable in Ukraine, since it was during his time that any attempts were made to “reanimate” the Ukrainian Armed Forces. The degradation of the Argentinean Armed Forces can be considered a very distant analogue, but they still did not have such power as the Ukrainian Armed Forces at the beginning of the 90, and their collapse stretched out for a much longer period. Post-Soviet Ukraine had a low, but still not entirely insignificant GDP, and for arms exports, as a rule, it was in the top ten world (for 90% it was a sale of equipment from the armed forces, but the country received money). The fact that at the same time almost no money was allocated for combat training and no new equipment was acquired for its own aircraft (and even the existing one was almost not repaired) - this is something prohibitive.

However, a huge role in the collapse of the army was played by what the state as a whole undermined — corruption. A striking example of this phenomenon was the history of the operational-tactical missile complex "Sapsan", which was created for the Ukrainian army. In 2007-2013, more than 200 million UAH was spent on it (about 1 billion rubles). However, during this time, not only a prototype was not created, but the documentation was not even developed. As a result, the project had to close. In fact, 100% allocated to it - and very considerable for the Armed Forces of Ukraine - money was simply stolen.

It is quite natural that the current mobilization has completely failed, although it managed to turn from “universal” into “partial”. During it, military units and military registration and enlistment offices demeaningly asked to help "who with what can", like beggars in the Moscow metro, seriously rejoicing at the same time in amounts of several hundred hryvnia. Apparently, the new Kiev authorities initially had intentions to liberate Crimea by military means. But for literally two or three days it became clear that the Ukrainian army was not capable of anything at all.

At the same time, it confirmed what was long and well known - the viciousness of the formation of the Armed Forces according to the local principle. Of course, when the majority of the rank and file serve not far from home, this saves significant funds on transportation, and if the army is also poor, then on food, the parents will feed the soldier. However, this is all convenient only in peacetime. The quick and unconditional surrender of the Ukrainian group in the Crimea was greatly facilitated by the fact that up to 70% of the personnel were Crimeans, imbued with the same deeply pro-Russian mood as the population of the peninsula as a whole.

Further prospects of the humiliated and collapsed Ukrainian army do not seem bright. Attempts by the new government to increase military spending will only strike at the economy of the country, which is now, to put it mildly, in a far better position. In addition, other causes of the collapse of the army have not been eliminated - corruption, degradation of the training and management system, a very bad morale of the personnel, which only worsened even more due to the Crimean humiliation (aggravated by the return of all Ukrainian equipment by Russia) and outright insanity "mobilization". Increased costs without a radical change in approaches will simply be thrown to the wind. And the symptoms of this are already observed. The new governor of the Dnipropetrovsk region, the largest Ukrainian oligarch, Igor Kolomoisky, announced that he would finance the “Crimean campaign” of those units of the Ukrainian army that could at least take the equipment out of the gate. It is not entirely clear how this promise was fulfilled, but the company owned by Kolomoisky was suddenly announced without any competition a supplier of fuel and lubricants for the Ukrainian Armed Forces. It is interesting that deliveries will be conducted at prices about one and a half times higher than retail prices at Ukrainian gas stations.

UNABLE BLOCK

Of course, not only Ukraine lost the Crimean campaign, it was also lost by NATO, which again demonstrated its absolute incapacity in the event of a collision with a serious adversary. Once again, it makes no sense to describe what NATO brought itself to itself. Those who still do not understand this, apparently, are not able to understand anything at all. In countries that rushed to NATO especially actively and successfully, this understanding has come a long time ago. As one Polish newspaper wrote remarkably, “Thanks to Putin for another reminder to us that the current NATO is not even a paper tiger, but a soap bubble.” Verily, neither subtract nor add. Only two questions arise. Will we continue to bully ourselves with a soap bubble? And some countries of the former USSR will continue to hope that the bubble will ever protect them from anything? Surprisingly, the answers to both questions are likely to be positive. And most of all, those two countries that the alliance “has thrown under the full program” of Georgia and Ukraine will rush into NATO will be. And our paranoids will wait for “NATO bases near Kharkov”, count “American aircraft carriers in the Black Sea” and write kilometers of delusions about this. It turns out that NATO is not primarily a Western military organization, but our psychological diagnosis in the whole of the former USSR. As for NATO, which continues to consider itself a Western military organization, if something extraordinary does not happen (and it probably will not happen), it will itself tell a fairy tale about how the alliance and determination of the alliance prevented Russia from invading continental Ukraine. After that, calm down and continue self-reduction.

In this regard - one more remark. The authorities of Ukraine and Georgia constantly declare their adherence to “European values”. And at the same time, they continue to seriously believe that they will receive the protection that NATO will provide them. It is time to realize that the current European values ​​categorically do not imply the possibility of sacrificing life for the sake of protecting even yourself, your family and your country, and it’s simply out of the question to die to protect some Ukrainians and Georgians.

REFORMS WERE NOT DIFFICULT

A special component of the NATO failure during the Crimean campaign was Russia's achievement of total surprise in the operation in question. And this is despite the fact that all Western intelligence services closely watched the events both in Ukraine and in the North Caucasus (because of the Olympic Games in Sochi, where they seriously expected terrorist attacks and the evacuation of athletes).

In contrast to Ukraine and NATO, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation have proved themselves in this conflict magnificently. In full accordance with Sun Tzu’s covenants, they won without a battle, first suppressing surprise and then absolute superiority. Not numerical, but superiority in technique and preparation. Despite all the colossal problems described above, Ukrainian soldiers and officers are still not so bad warriors to capitulate so meekly. They realized that they simply did not have any chances against “polite people”.

At the same time, just 5 years ago, the Russian army differed little from the Ukrainian one (the Strategic Missile Forces were an exception, but they were not intended for local wars anyway). Yes, she won the war against Georgia in a good style, but it must be admitted that the Georgians are not the enemy, victory over which must be greatly deceived. In addition, the Chechen battalions played a big role in that victory. The turning point occurred precisely in the last 5 years.

In this regard, it is impossible not to note that even if Sergey Kuzhugetovich is a man of seven spans in his forehead, he could not physically change the army in such a magical way in less than a year and a half of his current post. For such a short period of time, it is impossible for anyone on this planet to change such a huge, complicated mechanism as much as the RF Armed Forces.

It is quite possible that Anatoly Serdyukov is the most corrupt person in Russia. In this case, he certainly should be punished. His measures in the role of the Minister of Defense, such as the total transformation of divisions into brigades, experiments with military education and military medicine, the Air Force home system, the purchase of Mistral, the transfer of the Navy headquarters to St. Petersburg and much more, were completely unjustified.

Nevertheless, the revival of the Armed Forces began under Serdyukov. It was during his time that there was a significant improvement in the material situation and living conditions of servicemen, it was under him that there was a sharp intensification of combat training, it was under him that new equipment began to arrive in the troops in significant quantities. The current minister makes many adjustments to his predecessor’s policies, but generally follows the same course. We must be able to be fair and understand that crimes do not negate merit. If Serdyukov “collapsed the army,” as we almost all believe, then the Sevastopol and Simferopol now would still have fluttered banners.

As stated in the article “Crimea is a catastrophe with the opposite sign” (“NVO”, No. 13 for 2014 a year), international law, in fact, ceased to exist. This fact is extremely sad, although in the case of the Crimea, this circumstance has brought us some benefit. Under these conditions, military force again becomes the decisive argument of world politics. The West himself invented a fairy tale about the invincibility of his “soft power”, while losing sight of the fact that soft power means nothing, if not supported by hard power. And in Asia, where the geopolitical center of the world has shifted, they value and understand exceptionally hard power. And all the stories about the "wars of the new generation" that pass without direct armed confrontation should not be taken too literally. You can win without war only if you have what you will win the war.

In this regard, about any savings in military spending is out of the question. Yes, they should not be exorbitant, but exorbitability in the foreseeable future does not threaten us. The Russian Armed Forces need total rearmament. It has just begun and has already brought victory. However, many of our military units still have the same scrap metal as in the Ukrainian army (unless our scrap metal is somewhat better served). And it should not be anywhere, from Baltiysk to Kamchatka and from Vladivostok to Pechenga. And the level of combat training, although significantly increased, but still very far from ideal, therefore, this process requires further intensification. All this is very expensive. But “saving” is always much more expensive, as Ukraine has so remarkably demonstrated to us. She saved a lot on the army, so now she has no army, no money, no Crimea. The most expensive is always the army, which save.

In addition, it is necessary to finally abandon the earnest belief in nuclear deterrence. Imagine that Ukraine at the beginning of 90-s would not give up nuclear weapons and would be able to keep at least 10% of that arsenal in a functional state. Would she have a nuclear strike on Moscow? Or for "polite people" in the Crimea? Hardly. It is necessary to realize the fact that nuclear weapons are practically not applicable. Yes, it is absolutely impossible to abandon it (and you don’t have to tell yourself tales about the “nuclear-free world,” there will never be one). But its use is the passage through multiple “points of no return” at once. Accordingly, it can only be used in a situation where there is absolutely nothing to lose and it is necessary to choose between the terrible and the monstrous. In order not to bring yourself to such a situation, you need to have ordinary armed forces, adequate to all potential threats, not only fictional, but real.

As for the source of money for the army, social programs, Crimea, etc., it is. You just need to curb corruption at least by half. The fate of Yanukovich in conjunction with the view of his summer cottage in Mezhyhiria is another important lesson of the Crimean campaign. Very many need to learn it well. And do not forget that it is impossible to organize any color revolution from the outside if there are no very serious objective prerequisites for it inside the country. As in the same Ukraine.
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  1. SHILO
    SHILO April 19 2014 07: 52
    +21
    Beautiful video with classical music about the Crimean operation.
    1. Siberian German
      Siberian German April 19 2014 16: 00
      +7
      beautiful video - but you know what is sickening - that we were driven to the point that we are going, as they say with a sword, brother to brother
      1. Thompson
        Thompson 10 May 2014 18: 33
        0
        That's right, BUT - what did the brother think and in which direction? Maybe the family is not without a freak, as always?
    2. Il123456
      Il123456 April 20 2014 15: 34
      +2
      watched the video: our (Russians) for sure! Most likely even Alpha or Pennant. They seem to "work" like that. And equipment, and "Tigers", and ammunition, "border" 80-A, Mi-17 "night lights" are also theirs. From the outside, everything is planned in advance. Well done! Just did not understand why the Ukrainian military in a "pose"? Resisted? Or not to resist ?!
      Is it interesting before or after it was added? And what were the "pravoseki" in the military unit quartered there? They are immediately visible - age, and the lumps are different than those of the Ukrainian military. And where does such a lovely video come from? There is also?
      Maybe someone knows what?
    3. AlexeyKomarov
      AlexeyKomarov 17 November 2014 09: 47
      0
      Very cool video.
  2. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 April 19 2014 08: 14
    +23
    ARMY is expensive. But this is our ARMY. There will be no strong ARMY in RUSSIA; there will be no RUSSIA. And whoever says the opposite is not a traitor but an enemy of RUSSIA. good drinks
  3. aviamed90
    aviamed90 April 19 2014 08: 25
    +29
    Put a minus.

    Exclusively due to the position of the author in assessing the activities of Mr. Serdyukov.

    "Nevertheless, the revival of the RF Armed Forces began under Serdyukov."
    "If Serdyukov" destroyed the army, "as almost all of us think, then over Sevastopol and Simferopol now the zhovto-blakit banners would still be fluttering."

    Apparently, the author does not catch that the army is not only the high monetary content and units of the airborne forces without identification marks on armored vehicles.

    This also includes military schools, military science, a system of mobilization and reserve in the country, a military government reception, a command and control system, an organizational and staffing structure, a communications system, and much more.
    But one can argue a lot about the quantity and quality of weapons in the troops. And the ratings are different for everyone.

    What happened in Crimea - not merit Serdyukov.
    Rather it was done contrary to those "reforms" that he carried out.

    But I think so: Serdyukov delivered a significant blow to the army and navy. In Russian, this is called high treason and undermining the country's defense capabilities, no matter what they say.

    And the conclusion at the end of the article, I think, is correct.
    The author unequivocally hints at the attitude of our "oligarchs" towards their country and people. And it makes it clear (on the example of Ukraine) what fate awaits them.
    The situation in Ukraine is now a good example for them (and not only for them): what can happen if they steal too much.
    1. Papakiko
      Papakiko April 19 2014 10: 57
      +2
      Quote: aviamed90
      Put a minus.

      Despite all the colossal problems described above, Ukrainian soldiers and officers are still not so bad warriors to surrender so meekly. They realized that they simply did not have any chances against “polite people”.
      "genial" and "fabulous d." for these conclusions in the article seem to be applause turning into a stormy ovation.
      How can the left hand fight with the right?
      Even the most ridiculous, stupid person in the square understands the meaninglessness of hostile actions and the measure of the received opposition.
      But in this period of the historical course of time, the "outskirts" are engaged in political prostitution (all 23 years of independence) and are not going to give up the "business" that brings colossal profits and is not subject to any taxes.
      Ordinary citizens of all the sand grains in this chess game.
      The "circus" will continue and end only after the complete dismemberment of the "outskirts".
      In the final stage, Polish-Gack tank pokatushki are possible under the components of the growing “baytarek”.
      I hope that NATE cretins will not reach this point, although anything is possible.
      All the heat under the rays of Yarilo.
      1. CALL.
        CALL. April 19 2014 15: 55
        +13
        Quote: Papakiko
        Ukrainian soldiers and officers are still not so bad warriors to surrender so resignedly.

        Most soldiers and officers of the Ukrainian army understand a lot about the current regime and do not want to die for it.
        1. comrade Bitch
          comrade Bitch April 19 2014 22: 03
          0
          not at all, the armed forces of Ukraine and Russia originated from the same source and therefore the possibility of an armed conflict in the head of Ukrainian soldiers was never taken seriously ... you could imagine the likelihood of, say, "liberation of the Ukrainian population" in the Kuban, as it was done in the Crimea ?? But as a result, you can now expect green Yankees because of the total genocide, say, the Colorado beetles in Russia
    2. Smol79
      Smol79 April 19 2014 16: 25
      +6
      my opinion about Serdyukov is this: the fact that he was not bound by any ties with the rotten generals allowed him to disperse part of the useless military from the leadership of the RF Armed Forces, responsibility for everything was dumped on him. I think that this was more important than the loot under it.
      1. aviamed90
        aviamed90 April 19 2014 16: 35
        0
        Smol79

        ... "allowed to disperse some of the useless military from the leadership of the RF Armed Forces ..."

        And who determined them futility?

        Useful Serdyukov?
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    4. Jipo
      Jipo April 19 2014 17: 41
      +14
      I remember 89 - 92 years, sheer chatter, the shops are empty, I am a 90 year graduate, I received coupons for school graduation cloth and shoes, like almost everyone else. As a result, we only had two colors of suits, only they were available. The stupid and weak-willed Gorbachev, the stubborn and unpredictable Yeltsin and a bunch of other, already forgotten politicians - they all promise everything, but do nothing, only attempts to please the United States. Everyone and everyone is weary, you don’t believe anything, and if then such "green men" appeared, from any country that would stop this mess and give people a chance to live like a human being, no one would fight, and after Afgan, nothing happened 2 -5 years. By 94, the army was completely degraded, especially the top and generals, all middle-level professionals went into bandits, they could not find the commander of the operation in Chechnya, everyone refused. The war in Chechnya saved the army, even the stupid ubls ... understood what would happen if it was not will become Putin, he started everything with the army, and then he began to build the vertical. There were no "hot spots" in Ukraine, everyone was stealing gas, selling army property, stealing and appropriating all strategic production in a narrow circle, the Rada demonstrated democracy, the Maidan, this impression has not been dispersed for 10 years, the country has completely degraded. That is why people who want to work, build their lives, and not think about "mov", "her", people who hate fascists, nationalists, etc. they just dream of nesting in a safe haven, where they will not be humiliated, on a racial basis, where they will not beg from anyone - gas, money, praise, where you can watch TV in the language you think in, that's why it all happened, that's why everyone was happy with the arrival of Russian soldiers, that's why even more people in Ukraine want what happened in Crimea.
      1. CAMS
        CAMS April 21 2014 08: 48
        +1
        add my opinion it coincides with the above. It was Chechnya that made us look at democracy in a different way, it was there that we were put on our knees and Russia began to realize that then we would lie down, it was Amer THANKS for that - they humiliated us so much that it became embarrassing and painful for our homeland. And this understanding came to the south-east of Ukraine. And Putin will help and hit, I have no doubt. It was just Ukraine’s turn to wash himself with blood, like we are in Chechnya.
    5. ar-ren
      ar-ren April 19 2014 23: 24
      +1
      >> Rather, it was done in spite of the "reforms" that he carried out.

      It is somewhat reminiscent of the cries of not-we-will-name-who "The people won the Great Patriotic War against Stalin's will!"
  4. rkkasa xnumx
    rkkasa xnumx April 19 2014 08: 36
    +6
    On the one hand, the article is normal, once again recalling how important it is to have a strong army will not be superfluous. But with something I disagree, for example:
    Nevertheless, the revival of the Russian Armed Forces began under Serdyukov. It was under him that a significant improvement in the material situation and living conditions of the military personnel took place, it was under him that there was a sharp intensification of combat training, it was under him that new equipment began to enter the troops in significant quantities.
    We must be able to be fair and understand that crimes do not cancel merit

    Well, what a merit of SERDYUKOV in so much money was allocated from the budget that, despite the theft, there was still enough money to improve the financial situation and to receive new equipment. It is rather a merit of those who fill this very budget, i.e. us with you. By the way, can anyone enlighten (MB serves himself or friends, relatives) do you really have significant improvements? With appliances, housing, etc.

    In addition, we must finally move away from a genuine belief in nuclear deterrence.

    SNF is necessary to deter the USA, CHINA, JAPAN coalition of countries of WESTERN EUROPE. We will not have a strategic nuclear forces - they will talk with us completely
    differently.


    As for the source of money for the army, social programs, Crimea, etc., then it is. You just have to curb corruption at least halfway. The fate of Yanukovych in conjunction with the view of his summer residence in Mezhyhirya is another important lesson of the Crimean campaign. Very many need to learn it well. And do not forget that it is impossible to organize any color revolution from the outside if there are no very serious objective prerequisites for it within the country.

    And here is the author of the rights to all 100
  5. Russian jacket
    Russian jacket April 19 2014 09: 06
    +3
    Quote: aviamed90
    Put a minus.

    Exclusively due to the position of the author in assessing the activities of Mr. Serdyukov.

    "Nevertheless, the revival of the RF Armed Forces began under Serdyukov."
    "If Serdyukov" destroyed the army, "as almost all of us think, then over Sevastopol and Simferopol now the zhovto-blakit banners would still be fluttering."

    Apparently, the author does not catch that the army is not only the high monetary content and units of the airborne forces without identification marks on armored vehicles.

    This also includes military schools, military science, a system of mobilization and reserve in the country, a military government reception, a command and control system, an organizational and staffing structure, a communications system, and much more.
    But one can argue a lot about the quantity and quality of weapons in the troops. And the ratings are different for everyone.

    What happened in Crimea - not merit Serdyukov.
    Rather it was done contrary to those "reforms" that he carried out.

    But I think so: Serdyukov delivered a significant blow to the army and navy. In Russian, this is called high treason and undermining the country's defense capabilities, no matter what they say.

    And the conclusion at the end of the article, I think, is correct.
    The author unequivocally hints at the attitude of our "oligarchs" towards their country and people. And it makes it clear (on the example of Ukraine) what fate awaits them.
    The situation in Ukraine is now a good example for them (and not only for them): what can happen if they steal too much.

    I do not quite agree with you. My boy served in the army in electronic warfare and radio intelligence. In the Far East, under Serdyukov. I will not speak for everyone, but he was dragging in kind in the anti-terror group. So in the photo I saw his outfit, how they are fed and not chased by their outfits. And the food is excellent, despite or thanks to outsourcing. New EW installations began to arrive, again not under Shoigu. And by the way, old jackets and wadded pants are also present in the photo. so Serdyukov is certainly a thief and a womanizer, but he still did a great job. The boy came and told a lot of interesting things. When I asked if the situation in the army was improving, he answered shortly "Yes."hi
    1. aviamed90
      aviamed90 April 19 2014 09: 17
      +1
      Russian jacket

      Well, I, I will not boast, 25 served in the Air Force for years.

      He started in the USSR Armed Forces. He served with many defense ministers during the time of Yeltsin. Serdyukov also found.

      And I can compare.

      And the comparison is not in favor of the latter.
      1. My doctor
        My doctor April 20 2014 10: 53
        +1
        Quote: aviamed90
        Russian jacket
        Well, I, I will not boast, 25 served in the Air Force for years.
        He started in the USSR Armed Forces. He served with many defense ministers during the time of Yeltsin. Serdyukov also found.
        And I can compare.
        And the comparison is not in favor of the latter.

        This is probably the case in gerontopsychology, since I have not yet met military pensioners who were satisfied with the last years of their service.
        1. aviamed90
          aviamed90 April 20 2014 12: 12
          +1
          My doctor

          And I saw such officers.

          True, this was before Serdyukov.
    2. muks
      muks April 20 2014 01: 59
      +3
      From Serdyukov, it was the media that created a furniture maker for steam descent. Serdyukov in one person ALL bloopers, slovenliness, theft? On the initiative of the current Minister of Defense, formations have been created in the army that are engaged in the search for the dead, missing, not buried participants in the Second World War. They both search and find, in addition to SOVIET SOLDIERS and OFFICERS, ammunition. They hand over, according to the regulations, to the commandant's office. In the commandant's office of this (Vsevolozhsky district of the Leningrad Region), the major accepts .... and sells. SELLED! Do you think he's the only one? Yes ... a lot of things can be "told"! Serdyukov is a pawn. Who was stuck in the position and given the command. Of course, the furniture maker's borzometer went off scale, and he really felt like a MINISTER OF DEFENSE! It must be understood that he received indulgences for his ... antics when he was appointed.
  6. Aleks95
    Aleks95 April 19 2014 09: 09
    +3
    I remind you: "He who does not want to feed his army will feed someone else's."
    1. tasha
      tasha April 20 2014 06: 36
      +1
      This must be remembered. But do not forget the principle of reasonable sufficiency.
  7. Arkan
    Arkan April 19 2014 09: 26
    +2
    And do not forget that it is impossible to organize any color revolution from the outside if there are no very serious objective prerequisites for it within the country. As in the same Ukraine.


    Patriotism is an antidote to tinted covens.
  8. La xnumx
    La xnumx April 19 2014 09: 51
    +6
    Reality constantly confirms the words of Alexander III, regarding the fact that Russia has only two allies - its army and its fleet.
    And as for the author's assertion that in the current state of the army there is also a merit of Serdyukov, this is complete nonsense! He just couldn’t eat EVERYTHING! Although I tried very hard. And it deserves a "wall".
  9. Gray 43
    Gray 43 April 19 2014 09: 59
    0
    Serdyukov did not succeed in breaking what was created by THE CENTURIES, with the advent of the Soviet regime they tried to ban something, but then they restored everything (military ranks, epaulets), at all times, even the worst, the army developed, gained experience and adopted, but that’s all polite, well-equipped people with equipment and support, against their background, they feel ashamed of the Ukrainian military, the impression is that they are stuck in the 80s. The army will not win a single battle if it is hungry.
  10. tomcat117
    tomcat117 April 19 2014 10: 09
    +1
    I don’t agree to Serdyukov’s account, it turns out that such a fluffy, but thieving, but a hero of Russia, divisions into brigades and then back, buildings and territories to businessmen and then through the court, you look: almost with him and thanks to his reforms they won the Georgian war, while could not find the infection, hid from responsibility - the Minister of Defense of horseradish.
    Our soldier with his bare hands on the tank (the Chechens also counted here) tore everyone into a racket, and this must be boasted.
  11. Vadim12
    Vadim12 April 19 2014 10: 37
    +2
    That's right, but Serdyukov ... Yes, with him the army was gaining strength, but this is not his merit. He's just a thief.
  12. parus2nik
    parus2nik April 19 2014 10: 48
    0
    Ukraine received a truly magnificent army - three very strong military districts of the second strategic echelon and three air armies ...
    This is how much good for sale .. wink
    Serdyukov .. he stole ... and that’s all ..
  13. Nikich
    Nikich April 19 2014 10: 54
    +5
    Now this hysteria about NATO’s weakness is already tired of it. No matter how weak NATO may be, it is still a very strong military bloc, which has no less than 3500 nuclear missiles, the fleet is bigger and better than ours (objectively, look at most of our ships, these are unfinished Soviet ones, and the author is right that Shoigu is so quick in the situation would not change). In addition, NATO has the most faithful allies against Russia - Poland, the Baltic states, etc. These countries are only waiting for a chance to attack Russia, but with American weapons ... In general, many problems can arise
    1. Platov
      Platov April 19 2014 18: 34
      +1
      Poland’s attacks on Russia are an immediate blow to the United States with all types of weapons that Russia has available, including nuclear ones in all NATO countries. It will not seem to anyone a little, but the Baltics will go into non-existence without even having time to understand what happened.
    2. 77bob1973
      77bob1973 April 20 2014 09: 03
      +1
      NATO should not be perceived as something solid (there has not been unity for a long time), try to look at the members individually, who CAN there? The Bundeswehr, which has degraded in twenty years, the French toy army, the British, has not been purchasing tanks for more than a decade. After a week of bombing in Libya, the NATO Air Force faced a shortage of ammunition and fuel, and for replenishment it was necessary to collect aircraft in Denmark, the Netherlands, Belgium and other micro air forces.
  14. Cristall
    Cristall April 19 2014 11: 39
    0
    In contrast to Ukraine and NATO, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation have proved themselves in this conflict magnificently. In full accordance with Sun Tzu’s covenants, they won without a battle, first suppressing surprise and then absolute superiority. Not numerical, but superiority in technique and preparation. Despite all the colossal problems described above, Ukrainian soldiers and officers are still not so bad warriors to capitulate so meekly. They realized that they simply did not have any chances against “polite people”.
    I do not agree.
    It’s nice to sing praises, of course, but according to Lukashenko, it was necessary to shoot. Of course, he did not specify that it was necessary to shoot at all both peaceful and polite. But that was implied.
    If the Ukrainians would start to shoot, they would be legally right, but not right in conscience.
    The main merit of the "transition of Crimea" is not a brilliantly planned operation (I am inclined to think that I was somewhat lucky with the conditions), but the desire of the Crimeans themselves, plus the tacit consent and not opposition of the rest of the Ukrainians. The military, the same Ukrainians acted according to their conscience and not according to rule. If they started shooting they would be right - but the Crimea would be on fire.
    The polite people were just polite, only because they were allowed to be polite-the conditions that created the people and power of Ukraine. But in no way was it a military operation, brilliant preparation ...
    Once again, I think that if you received an order to open fire immediately (the mediocrity of Kiev allowed to do without victims) and orders to defend territorial integrity on the peninsula - there would be a war in the natural sense with the victims. What Lukashenko was talking about - to shoot at all, but save the country.
    Thank God that the military were quite united with the people. The order to open fire, received with great delay, was not to be carried out, the rest of the regions bordering the Crimea silently approved the transition.
    I am inclined to think that Ukraine itself gave (somewhere even not wanting it) Crimea-Russia, given that Crimea itself wanted it. So at that time, Ukrainians were not against it. Another thing is what started later.
    1. sv68
      sv68 April 19 2014 12: 35
      +6
      the only merit of the ukroin military in Crimea is that they did not start a civil war there, realizing the pointlessness of fulfilling the criminal orders of Kiev. And not Kiev gave Crimea to Russia, namely Russia created such conditions that Crimea returned without bloodshed
      1. max702
        max702 April 19 2014 19: 28
        -3
        Not a merit, but the instinct of self-preservation, everyone wants to live .. here it even dawned on ukrov that there would be a cord, and it was the military force of Russia that made such conclusions.
    2. Slavs
      Slavs April 19 2014 15: 43
      +4
      What do you disagree with? How many times during the service of soldiers of military service of the Armed Forces of Ukraine goes to firing? In fact ? What kind of war? Who has combat experience there? Unsovtsy? or a chemical protection battalion that rode to Iraq? They ruined their army in the trash ... Capture, occupation ... Read the IMF conditions for Ukraine carefully ... That's where the occupation, colonization, and with the introduction of the US contingent, you will feel the rest of the charms.
    3. Sour
      Sour April 19 2014 17: 51
      +1
      Quote: Cristall
      but according to Lukashenko, it was necessary to shoot. Of course, he did not specify that it was necessary to shoot at all both peaceful and polite. But that was implied.

      So.
      "Batkophiles" really do not like such things. For them, this is a break in the templates about the "father" as an ally and friend of Russia.
  15. Sergey S.
    Sergey S. April 19 2014 13: 09
    +4
    Strong is always right

    This is an axiom for all time. Unfortunately.
    But for a long time this postulate was in doubt. But ... the main doubt was to figure it out, but who is really strong?

    So it was during the bipolar world. in fact, in the cold war.

    Then, through the embodiment of the materialistic principle "material is primary, spiritual is secondary", the period of the unipolar world began.
    During this period, doubting who was right was simply dangerous. Strong did not allow.

    Now, I hope, the next stage in world politics has begun.
    Who and how strong is being revealed right now.
    Who is right, and this is specifically about Russia. will have to prove with all the available arguments. And, God forbid, so that after this evidence the number of missiles in Russian arsenals does not decrease.
  16. RoTTor
    RoTTor April 19 2014 13: 55
    +2
    Even in the current state, the Russian army is much stronger than the American and NATO \. which without the USSR and the ATS became impotent.
    The worst crime of a stool is the destruction of the military education system. Restore destroyed, especially now, is almost impossible.
    No military institutes = no officers = no army.
    Higher educational institutions were destroyed in Ukraine (one-third of all military schools of the USSR Armed Forces), because there is no army and cannot be there. There are no officers, but there are clowns who have been hanging around pears for the entire 23 years of independence, who, having sold their lives together and not having served a single day in the present Soviet Army, are already preparing for retirement.

    In Ukraine there are no real officers, they were drained, fearing a normal military coup, the only possible treatment.
    Therefore, they take there from a deep supply of all sorts of cool tenuhi, because there are NO.
    But in the army of the Southeast there are enough real military men.
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt April 19 2014 19: 34
      +2
      Oh, just do not about Ukrainian not real officers. Real ones are everywhere when a person is real. When he is for his people, and not for a loan interest for the authorities. The rest is baby talk. I think so.
  17. illarion
    illarion April 19 2014 14: 13
    -1
    Serdyukov found it very difficult to fight with the generals whom he had fired. They preferred to resign, just not to leave Moscow. It’s a shame. The main headquarters of the Navy only recently, and I’m not sure, was transferred to St. Petersburg. The reason is the same. Dear let's be objective.
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt April 19 2014 19: 40
      +1
      Who is Serdyukov? Zubkov's son-in-law. And where is he now and where is Zubkov. Nehru to walk to the left of his wife. Serdyukov is the same "vyser" system, like many others. Even the "extreme" in the mind do not dare to merge. Think guys, think!
  18. dFG
    dFG April 19 2014 15: 19
    0
    article plus, of course, the author’s argument about the role of Serdyukov is debatable, but ... the investigation has not yet been completed and there is no verdict, so let’s leave this to court and, on the whole, the article is fair and everyone saw with their own eyes that difference between polite people and supposedly the whole of Ukraine
  19. Slavs
    Slavs April 19 2014 15: 32
    0
    Yeah. If under Serdyukov something did not ditch, it was only because he did not manage to get there ... Do not be naive, author ... And in August, it turns out, the Vostok battalion pulled everything out ... My opinion thanks to Rogozin for restoring the military-industrial complex Shoigu for understanding the issue of the army ... and the Stool must be shot ... Thank God the Crimea did not happen under him ...
  20. rezident
    rezident April 19 2014 15: 56
    0
    I do not agree. The army, of course, is a good thing, but it did not save the USSR, although it was the strongest in Europe. And after several years she couldn’t even normally suppress the uprisings in the national suburbs. Here a lot of things must be taken into account by the army, the economy, what thoughts roam in the minds of citizens also wanted to know. It is not known which next riot may arise.
    1. Slavs
      Slavs April 20 2014 00: 28
      +1
      And the army to the collapse of the USSR? It was decomposed from within, this is a question for the KGB ... And what does the suppression of "uprisings" against the army have to do with it? This is a question for the Ministry of Internal Affairs (VV) ... And they would have suppressed it normally, if it had not been for the venality and amorphousness of the then power ... And there is no need to present the Khasavyurt agreement as a blessing ... Do you even know what kind of hacks are put before the country's Armed Forces in general?
  21. mig31
    mig31 April 19 2014 15: 58
    +2
    Ukraine, as a guide for harakiri ....
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt April 19 2014 19: 42
      -1
      I hope you mean the State Department? Then I agree with your opinion. laughing
  22. Sour
    Sour April 19 2014 16: 41
    0
    Now almost everyone has forgotten how many in the beginning of the 90s there were horror stories in our media about a possible war between Russia and Ukraine.

    This was not, the author is lying.
    1. Sergey S.
      Sergey S. April 19 2014 17: 22
      +1
      I agree that in reality the situation did not reach a similar one.
      But there was talk of this, because the Ukrainian authorities in all realities hindered Russian proposals for the integration of the post-Soviet space.
      Either give the union only from the Slavs, even without Kazakhstan - Nazarbayev was then very offended, then provoking sharp movements in gas affairs - they stole from the quiet and open ...
      They even surpassed EBN by American worship ...

      Here, apparently. already then qualified people realized to what extent national treason would be reached by the Kiev Gauleiter.
      1. Sour
        Sour April 19 2014 17: 33
        0
        I’ll add one more thing
        But in the event of such a war, the Ukrainian army would have had a significant superiority over the Russian forces in the European part of the country: we basically got weak third-tier districts with cropped divisions and outdated equipment, as well as groups of troops that were “hovered” in Eastern Europe and were randomly withdrawn “to pure field "

        This is all nonsense.
        In the event of a war (if it had taken place), the human and economic potentials of the two countries would have fought, rather than the divisions, armies and districts that existed under the USSR on paper. Under no circumstances could the military potential of Ukraine be greater than the Russian one. Instead of comparing the real military capabilities of Russia and Ukraine after the collapse of the USSR the author compares the troops stationed in these two republics before the collapse of the USSR.
        It is also pointless to compare the military-industrial complex of Russia and Ukraine in the early 90s, because it was a single military-industrial complex. It's like arguing which is more important - the liver or the kidneys? Even now, most of the components for "motor sicha" engines (Russian development, by the way) are made in Russia.
        The article put a minus.
        It seems that the article was written by a schoolboy for schoolchildren.
        1. Moltke
          Moltke April 20 2014 04: 45
          0
          At the first stage, the Ukrainian Armed Forces would have an advantage.
      2. Sour
        Sour April 19 2014 18: 00
        +1
        Quote: Sergey S.
        But there was talk of it

        The author talks about discussions on this subject in the Russian media in the early 90s.
        Once again - then there was no such talk in the Russian media.
        I affirm categorically that it was not.
        Quote: Sergey S.
        for the Ukrainian authorities in all realities impeded Russian proposals for the integration of the post-Soviet space.

        In the early 90s, there were no Russian integration proposals.
        But even if they were, and would be hindered by the Ukrainian side, then this is not a reason for war.
        There were no "pre-war conversations" in the early 90s in Russia when it came to Ukraine.
        Sorry, but then I was already quite an adult, I was in the fourth dozen. I remember those times well.
        1. Sergey S.
          Sergey S. April 19 2014 18: 23
          0
          I also remember well that time - there were no external manifestations of the possibility of military confrontation, they did not write in the newspapers, they did not report to the housewives on TV. But there was some talk about what was going on in this professional environment.

          TFR Ukrainians stole in Odessa.
          Odessa fleet base captured ...
          The commander of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation, at his own peril and risk, "resisted with his own means the creeping and squandering of naval property in favor of ukrov izpodtishka ... Either they will try to deprive the Black Sea Fleet of energy, or residential buildings, or block the delivery of cargo to the Black Sea Fleet bases. facilities, sanatorium, ...
          As a result, Soviet pilots drove airplanes to Russia, bypassing all agreements.
          Even our aircraft carrier "Admiral Kuznetsov" had to move from the Black Sea to the Severnaya Fleet in the course of a secret military operation. By the way, those who then worked as polite people should have been remembered and worthy of reward.
  23. Sour
    Sour April 19 2014 18: 36
    +1
    Quote: Sergey S.
    they didn’t write in newspapers, they didn’t report on TV to housewives. But there was some talk about what was going on in this professional environment.

    Which "professional" one? Among the professional talkers?
    And what has "not reported to housewives"? I was then not a housewife, but an officer.
    Once again, the author talks about conversations in the Russian media.
    I categorically affirm that they were not there. The author is lying.
    And to say that "Ukraine inherited an 800-thousandth army" means not to be on friendly terms. Or consider readers as complete idiots. Not all of these 800 thousand, and not even half, were citizens of the newly formed Ukraine. The author took and mechanically divided the former Soviet Army, divided it according to the location of its units. He either does not understand, or pretends not to understand that the Soviet Army died at the same time as the USSR. And operate with numbers about the location Soviet troops applied to post-Soviet realities maybe only a liar. Or a nerd.
    1. Sergey S.
      Sergey S. April 20 2014 00: 22
      -1
      Your truth is only partial - the armament Ukraine got first-class and numerous.
      Many Soviet officers remained to live at the duty station, and did not immediately disperse to anywhere — there was nowhere for many to leave.

      ...
      But in the media it was really quiet and problem-free on this issue.
      But the facts of the fleet are not in doubt.
      1. Sour
        Sour April 20 2014 12: 00
        +3
        Quote: Sergey S.
        Many Soviet officers remained to live at the duty station, and didn’t disperse anywhere instantly -

        I personally knew more than a dozen people who left Ukraine, refusing to take the Ukrainian oath. They were transferred to Russia with a decrease, or even were withdrawn for the state, if only not to serve in the army of hetman Kravchuk. Your words are half-truths, and they are worse than lies.
        Quote: Sergey S.
        stayed at the duty station

        Where to live? In a leaky DOS that has not been repaired for a hundred years? To listen to you, so then all the SA officers had their apartments, and even half did not have them. Did you serve in the SA yourself?
        armament Ukraine got first-class and numerous.

        Armament without soldiers is not expensive. And he was also enough in Russia. If necessary, it would be enough for a war with Ukraine, and not only with it.
        But the facts of the fleet are not in doubt.

        I did not discuss any "facts about the fleet", as did the author. It was you who got in with them for some reason. I just caught the author of a lie when he said about the Russian media of those times, and you stuck with some "facts about the fleet", sort of like refuting my words and supporting the author. But you have denied nothing and confirmed nothing. They just got worn out.
      2. elenanikolaevna
        elenanikolaevna April 22 2014 05: 04
        0
        As for the officers, an example, my brother swearing to Ukraine, added to the oath the words "But do not fight against Russia" for which he was removed from the staff and then dismissed. And he was not alone in this part, it was so throughout Ukraine.
  24. Platov
    Platov April 19 2014 18: 41
    +1
    What is the merit of stools this story will judge. Corruption and the Amazons are his complete failure for which he must bear the deserved punishment.
    1. siberalt
      siberalt April 19 2014 19: 53
      0
      And you also think that the "furniture seller" acted independently? Going deep even for the RF IC is a taboo. Nizzyaaa! And that's all. History will not judge "stool" - it will be too small for her, however.
      laughing


      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/602/epzc356.jpg
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  25. AARP
    AARP April 19 2014 20: 24
    0
    God will punish Serdyukov. Our guys in Crimea worked 5+. And the Ukrainian military turned out to be sane people. Congratulations to all Crimeans on getting rid of "zhovto-blakitnyh". He himself served in the Black Sea Fleet in 86-89. Memories are the most pleasant. We are with you.
    ps Friends, tell me the name of the music in the video, I remember that there is a violin concert, and I don’t remember which one. Tell me, plz.
  26. Falcon5555
    Falcon5555 April 19 2014 21: 18
    +2
    Now almost everyone has forgotten how many in the beginning of the 90s there were horror stories in our media about a possible war between Russia and Ukraine.

    I forgot. Even after reading this reminder, there is no way to remember. Was it?

    The hysterical policy of the Ukrainian elite was annoying even then. After all, the entire USSR collapsed because of her. Kravchuk, in a television statement on August 19, 1991, supported the putsch and did not help Gorbachev in any way, free him, and Gorbachev was blocked not on the Moon, but on (as if) Ukrainian territory. Allegedly, he is ill. Well, I would have visited Kravchuk Gorbachev, his party comrade, I would have brought oranges to the "patient". But no. Then Muscovites revolted, Rutskoi with officers of the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs flew to Crimea (to Ukraine!) To release Gorbachev, and literally a few days later, as far as I remember, Kravchuk announced the independence of Ukraine, although for about half a year there was a referendum with the result THE USSR. It is clear that Kravchuk would not have done something so eccentric, he would have ousted his post ingloriously, as a supporter of the Emergency Committee. And so - he spent several more years as the president of an independent nuclear country. Later, this hysterical Ukrainikl continued under other presidents. But somehow I don't remember talking about the war.
    1. Sour
      Sour April 19 2014 21: 31
      +1
      Quote: Falcon5555
      But something I don’t remember talking about the war.

      No one remembers and does not remember.
      Everyone can lie and minus, but the facts lead - weaklings. And they remember those times from the words of papa-mama. They themselves then, at best, learned to sit on the pot.
      Was it?

      There was no such thing. Once again - there was no such thing.
      Believe your memory, and not someone else's lies.
      1. Falcon5555
        Falcon5555 April 20 2014 01: 12
        0
        OK. I will believe.
        Khramchikhin - like a famous last name. What he wrote nonsense.
  27. Yurgens
    Yurgens April 19 2014 22: 31
    +1
    The main thing now is not to get into euphoria, but to continue to work at increased speeds.
  28. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S April 20 2014 14: 02
    -1
    The article put a minus. For me, Serdyukov stood on a par with Gorbachev, both traitors and enemies of the people.
  29. SlavaP
    SlavaP April 20 2014 14: 07
    +1
    International law has died - yes, perhaps. But she did not die in the Crimea, but in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya and Syria.
  30. Sergey S.
    Sergey S. April 20 2014 16: 06
    0
    Quote: Sour

    I did not discuss any "facts about the fleet", as did the author. It was you who got in with them for some reason. I just caught the author of a lie when he said about the Russian media of those times, and you stuck with some "facts about the fleet", sort of like refuting my words and supporting the author. But you have denied nothing and confirmed nothing. They just got worn out.

    Why so annoyed.
    Yes, because of the media.
    Moreover, these very media outlets printed anything for the sake of grandmas or on orders.
    These same media wrote such nonsense that we couldn’t repeat it, and if we remember who we’ll have to fight with, we wouldn’t write down who we were to be our enemies, and we didn’t even start from new and old countries, but even from separate regions, republics and regions of Russia . and ended with aliens.
    In Leningrad, we then had strange locals from the region pressuring for independent Ingria, whispering that the Pomors and Cossacks were ready to separate and regain their independence.
    I don’t even remember about Chechnya. But there both Ukrainians and Baltic snipers fought against us. and there were different foreigners ...
    And when questions about the Dudayev’s militants from Ukraine were hooked (the music has not been forgotten yet), the media wrote that they were preparing for war with Russia.
    It was, absolutely accurate.
    But I did not want to remember this scum.
    So I brought the facts of the semi-cold war - the half-hot friendship, which were discussed in the media, or not even discussed, but were known, at least in the Navy.

    I consider it inappropriate to write about lies during discussions on online forums.
    People may be mistaken in names, dates, numbers, but in free communication they don’t lie, unless, of course, they are on a special task for working out foreign money.
    1. Sour
      Sour April 20 2014 16: 23
      +1
      Quote: Sergey S.
      Why so annoyed.
      Yes, because of the media.

      And here "because of the media"?
      The author is lying like a gray gelding, and this is annoying. Unpleasant to read articles with a lie. If in one paragraph lies, then it will be in others. And who needs such scribble?
      Personally, I do not need lies, even if it is supposedly patriotic.
      Relations with Ukraine were difficult all 22 years after the collapse of the USSR. But there were no pre-war moods up to Crimea 2014. DID NOT HAVE. Neither in our media, nor even in their media. Why lie? To make it more beautiful? To snotty youth seduced by lies? Write the truth, not a beautiful lie. Sick of him, to be honest. I hate prostitutes who put the story in a comfortable position. I hate it, no matter what reason they come from.
      STOP LYING.
      An analysis of the author that Ukraine was allegedly once militarily stronger than Russia, speaks of his stupidity. Or about his disrespect for readers, whom he holds for fools. What is the difference, which Soviet units were deployed in Ukraine? These were Soviet units, and after the collapse of the USSR, you could forget about them.
      Article - g about in n about. Even regardless of the lies about the Russian media in the early 90s.
    2. Sour
      Sour April 20 2014 17: 57
      +3
      And I’ll add. You can make mistakes in dates and numbers, but not in the actual state of things.
      Regarding the SA officers, to whom I belonged too. The officers who left Ukraine, who did not want to take their oath, all said in one voice: "It is better to die of hunger in Russia than to serve in an army're coming out." This is exactly what the real Russian officers said. Then the difference in the standard of living was not in favor of Russia, Ukraine lived better then. But a Russian officer is a Russian officer. He did not accept the very idea of ​​serving in alien army. He even knew someone who had a wife in Ukraine, had a senior staff position, but refused to take the oath of oath and went to Russia, where he was a platoon, then quit to work as a civilian, then served in the police. And so it was. It is better to stay out of work than serve Ukraine. That was all. It would be better if the author told about this, but did not carry any garbage.
      1. Sergey S.
        Sergey S. April 20 2014 18: 00
        0
        I completely agree here.
  31. Penek
    Penek April 20 2014 21: 56
    +2
    "Orchestra, Slavyanka's Farewell!" - more relevant than ever. I myself am Ukrainian on my father's side, I lived there for many years and when I returned to Russia as a child, I did not speak Russian at all. Now it hurts me to look at this trash who came to power. In the school he passed an internship in Lviv, a wonderful city, an opera theater-fairy tale, the Three Musketeers were filmed there. So Serdyukov, a baby, compared to Humpbacked, only ruined the army. This G. does not just live in Deutschland, he is waiting for him in his homeland tribunal.
  32. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 April 21 2014 02: 46
    +1
    The controversial article in the assessments of BUT very accurately determines that no one will speak with the country without equal power in the prevailing World, it just does not make sense.

    Regarding Serdyukov:
    Reforms give a result 5-7 years after they began; in the modern army, there is no merit; it is simply objective logic.
    The increase in combat training is connected with Putin’s policy and the second Chechen campaign, an objectively greater allocation of funds for training (fuel, ammunition, etc.), this would be with any defense minister of this period.

    NATO is far from collapse and weakness, well, very far, the alliance includes an ode of the most powerful armies in approaches and training personnel - German (well, as an example).

    Regarding the use of nuclear weapons: The very possibility of use is sobering soberly, Russia is capable of causing unacceptable damage to almost the entire World, the number of significant goals is consistent with nuclear potential and there is no need to reduce it. It is necessary and necessary to apply for any ANY enemy in the event of a threat to the territorial integrity of the country from foreign invasion.
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  34. GRune
    GRune April 21 2014 07: 57
    0
    It is well written, but there is no need to deceive yourself, NATO can bring unpleasant surprises ...
  35. sledge
    sledge April 21 2014 08: 05
    0
    You shouldn't be so flattering about the merits of Serdyukov. It is worth listening to the regular military, both active and reserve, in the time of Serdyukov about his "merits". A THIEF he is a THIEF.
  36. sanek0207
    sanek0207 April 21 2014 08: 21
    0
    The video is certainly cool! And everything is so decorous, noble, in the old !!! GIVE THE LORD OF FORCE AND HEALTH TO THESE GUYS WHO PROTECT US, AND THEIR FAMILIES OF THE BEST !!!
  37. Falcon5555
    Falcon5555 April 21 2014 21: 09
    +2
    In this regard, there can be no talk of any savings on military spending. Yes, they should not be exorbitant, but we certainly do not face exorbitism in the foreseeable future. RF Armed Forces need total rearmament. It has just begun and has already brought victory.

    This is also nonsense. Moreover, it is contradictory. Either - "not talking about saving", then "they should not be exorbitant." So you need to save?
    Total rearmament? Rave. Arms change must always go on, without extremism.
    "Total rearmament" brought victory in Crimea? Nonsense.
  38. rocketman
    rocketman April 22 2014 15: 01
    -1
    I liked the article. Only the author is not entirely right about Serdyukov and Yanukovych. The first simply did not have time to reach out to everything with his "rekhvorms", and a lot of good things remained in the Russian army. And the second clown "reformed" the army on the Russian model, appointing ministers-thieves and carrying out ill-considered and unsupported reforms for the sake of reforms. Oddly enough, but the only benefit from the Maidan is the flight of Yanuca and the resignation of his henchmen from the army.
  39. Thompson
    Thompson 10 May 2014 18: 41
    0
    Quote: rkkasa 81
    And do not forget that it is impossible to organize any color revolution from the outside if there are no very serious objective prerequisites for it within the country.

    These words are KEY! And not just a revolution! Therefore, we must fight not with the consequences, but with the cause! Only then will there be any sense!
  40. Serg93
    Serg93 30 May 2014 18: 31
    0
    Quote: Nikich
    Now this hysteria about NATO’s weakness is already tired of it. No matter how weak NATO may be, it is still a very strong military bloc, which has no less than 3500 nuclear missiles, the fleet is bigger and better than ours (objectively, look at most of our ships, these are unfinished Soviet ones, and the author is right that Shoigu is so quick in the situation would not change). In addition, NATO has the most faithful allies against Russia - Poland, the Baltic states, etc. These countries are only waiting for a chance to attack Russia, but with American weapons ... In general, many problems can arise

    I agree you can not underestimate the opponent !!!