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Not sudden and not early. To the beginning of the civil war in Ukraine

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Not sudden and not early. To the beginning of the civil war in Ukraine



Now many are surprised that the punitive operation against the south of Ukraine, requiring the restoration of law and order in the republic, began less than two months after the coup d'état. They expected that the Kiev criminals would openly destroy those who disagree only after the imitation of the President’s election, 25, which was legitimizing their power.

As far as I can judge, the Kiev criminals dragged with a special operation to the last possible opportunity, because not only in chess does the principle work: the threat is stronger than execution. While it was possible to threaten the use of heavy quantities in commodity quantities weapons and valiant Ukrainian warriors, who know how to use it, while at least the theoretical possibility of forceful suppression of everything undesirable for the Kiev criminals themselves and their American puppeteers remained - one could hope that someone would really be frightened and, perhaps, even rise under the banner of "independent" Of Ukraine.

But as soon as the real hostilities began, it became clear that the Ukrainian army was sick, as was the state as a whole. Even though there are people there who are ready to kill - and even, perhaps, there are people who are ready to die. But, firstly, there are too few of them to take control of the whole Russian Ukraine at once, and secondly, during the collapse of the state, even those who can and want to shoot, have long forgotten how to do it.

In addition, there is a moral factor. Of course, it looks very beautiful when several men are forced to retreat a tank with one mat, but this is understandable: it only means that the tankers themselves are not at all eager to shoot. By the way, to some extent this is a consequence of the previous inaction of the legitimate Ukrainian authorities headed by President Yanukovych, when for several months in a row people, not only having the right, but also those who are obliged to use force against violent crimes, were persuaded to do nothing, then directly they were forbidden to do what should be done - naturally, now in Ukraine there are not too many people willing to execute the orders of the authorities, whose illegality becomes more obvious every day.

Therefore, to start this massive crime against the country, the people, the law and common sense, the enemy took a long time to sway and decide. Those coups whose organizers were more self-confident began shooting much earlier.

As far as can be judged both by publications and by chronology, even now Kiev criminals are moving solely on a kink, and their representatives of the Washington Regional Committee are kicking. Intelligence chiefs rarely come to those countries where this intelligence has participated in organizing a coup d'état, so that, so to speak, it doesn’t shine - but it was necessary to light up here. It's funny that American intelligence could not come up with a plausible explanation of the reasons for the visit of her boss to Ukraine.

So this time the crime began, in my opinion, not early, but it is very late. If these criminals really were confident in their abilities, they would have almost immediately after the coup in Kiev engaged in bringing the south and east of Ukraine to a comfortable look. If they do not do this, it means that they are aware of their powerlessness and have got into a fight only because their owners have demanded this directly.

Why demanded - is known. The United States of America has not been able to rise for a long time - therefore they are trying to lower all the others in order to remain the center of gravity of all world goods. So they organize, as far as the forces remain, fires around all who can still move up on their own. Including about the EU and the Russian Federation.

Well, how will events develop now? There are a lot of options, since neither the degree of frostiness of fanatics from Independence Square, nor the combat skills of both sides are completely indefinable. But I really hope that the residents of the south and east of Ukraine, who risked a revolt, are mostly adult people, with work skills and, to a large extent, with active service experience in the armed forces, so they can imagine at least approximately what to do on either side of the front sight. . If this hope of mine comes true, then for Kiev revolutionaries and their accomplices, the best way out of the situation will be the one to which at one time several well-known figures have resorted, whose surnames in Russian style begin with “G”, although in the original - and with a Latin letter "G", and from Latin "H" (Hitler, Goebbels, Himmler, Goering)

If the south and east show the same degree of inability to live and act, which is the current Kiev gang, then (although it is extremely unlikely) I will have to admit that Ukraine is no more and that Wild Field remaining in its place will soon be subject divide by the same method by which the guards at the cross divided the remnants of the clothes of Yeshua Joseph Davidov. This outcome is extremely unlikely, but, unfortunately, even I can not completely exclude it.
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  1. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam April 19 2014 15: 51
    +28
    As far as one can judge by publications, and by chronology, even now Kiev criminals exclusively kicked, and they kicked the representatives of the Washington Regional Committee. Intelligence chiefs rarely come to those countries where this intelligence participated in the organization of the coup d'état, so as not to shine, so to speak - but here I had to light up. It's funny that American intelligence was never able to come up with a plausible explanation of the reasons for the visit of his boss to Ukraine.

    But when will it end? The Maidan authorities were screwed up to the fullest, have no popular support, except for the right-wing ones. And the amazing thing is that they are sitting in government buildings and are sitting for no one. Ukraine, in my opinion, doesn’t give a damn about the fact that the Maidanites are idiots in the political arena. And after all, interestingly, no one will go and kick the Maidanites.

    Hedgehog - a proud bird, until you kick - will not fly.
    .
    1. Validator
      Validator April 19 2014 15: 58
      +42
      So far, the civil war looks like this:
      1. Borisych
        Borisych April 19 2014 17: 28
        +10
        Precisely noticed, exactly so. It’s even funny to look at their helplessness. It's a pity only people who suffer from what is happening.
      2. Validator
        Validator April 19 2014 17: 35
        +36

        Interview with a fighter of self-defense of Slavyansk on the background of BMD
        1. Saratovets
          Saratovets April 19 2014 18: 13
          +12
          I understand that the picture was ATGM ??
          1. berserk1967
            berserk1967 April 20 2014 00: 10
            +2
            As far as I remember this ATGM "Fagot". Will pierce any armor of all tanks in service with the Ukrainian army.
        2. Artyom
          Artyom April 19 2014 18: 53
          +9
          the video really pleased! at least one really sane organizer, and the state of technology is really not so hot, under the BMD in the foreground a puddle, something is leaking!
          1. papas-57
            papas-57 April 19 2014 20: 48
            +3
            `` there is a puddle in the foreground, something is leaking! ''. Even this should be rejoicing - at least something is leaking. Soon there will be nothing to leak, everything will end.
          2. papas-57
            papas-57 April 19 2014 20: 48
            0
            `` there is a puddle in the foreground, something is leaking! ''. Even this should be rejoicing - at least something is leaking. Soon there will be nothing to leak, everything will end.
    2. avt
      avt April 19 2014 16: 04
      +19
      Quote: MainBeam
      But when will it end?

      “Only when everyone dies, only then the Big Game will end,” our party with the Yusei continues, but the project “Ukraine1991” with all the dead eggs in Kiev, in fact, as aptly noted in the article on the site, have already become no longer figures, and cells on the board of the Great Game.
      Quote: serega.fedotov
      ! By the way there was infa that Kolomoisky worked!

      Yes, no, it’s like they shot and twisted one shooter, without consequences for the object, which the breasts were put under the edge, he got out of the car in front of the guard. Maybe a setup for earning the authority of a martyr - carbonaria. It is very similar to the assassination attempts of the 90s by Borovoy- there is a hole in the car, and he himself is more alive than all the living.
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 April 19 2014 16: 58
        +61
        Here the information came from the European Commissioner of Energy!

        European Commissioner for Energy: Brussels should help Kiev pay for Russian gas

        "If we do not find an opportunity for Ukraine to pay off bills worth more than $ 2 billion, then there is a danger that Russia will no longer supply (energy) to the republic," the European Commissioner suggested.

        Ettinger recalled that Ukraine is the most important transit country through which "blue fuel" from the Russian Federation enters the countries of the European Union. Taking into account this fact, "a difficultly controlled process may begin, which will also affect Germany," the European Commissioner believes.

        It seems Putin’s ultimatum on gas has worked!

        Yes, about the REB KHIBINA which was used in the Black Sea suspended on the SU-24, at first I thought that it was fake and no!

        Kaluga Research Institute of Radio Engineering (KNIRTI), a member of KRET, signed a contract with the Ministry of Defense for MAKS-2013 to carry out development work to create the unique Khibiny-U electronic warfare complex for electronic warplanes. The new complex will surpass all types of airborne electronic warfare systems currently in service. The cost of the contract is 1,6 billion rubles.

        And information about the 20 captive PMC fighters! It turns out that a senior CIA coordinator disappeared along with them!

        In particular, the seemingly inexplicable rush with which the high rank of the SBU rushed to Slavyansk becomes clear, at the approaches to which they were shelled, having lost, according to various estimates, from one to nine people. The casket opens simply: the missing foreigners represent the Greystone Ltd. private military company (PMC), a member of Academi (formerly Blackwater), which is close to the US State Department, or rather to its security service. And the coordinator (or “controller”) of the missing detachment is a coincidence! - According to blogger Tatyana Volkova, the CIA special agent is personally acquainted with its director John Brennan. Than Ukraine, in fact, is obliged to urgently visit him last weekend in Kiev. Moreover, incognito, under the name of a certain "Johnson", who arrived on the banks of the Dnieper allegedly for "tourist" purposes.

        They say that in the Slavyansk region “high professionals” from the USA were unusually quickly and clearly blocked by a crowd of civilians surrounded by “polite” and “friendly” people armed with Kalashnikov rifles. Considering it to be good to disarm and present American licenses (only two drivers turned out to be Ukrainians), a group of mercenaries, together with the “controller” and “well-wishers”, disappeared without a trace in the vast expanses of Donetsk land, and no one knows where it is now. Although knowledgeable people say that they either "drove in" or "flew" from afar, from an organization that could make out the specific emphasis of their "English."

        Now Putin’s huge compromising material! I hope that Novorossiya will now have to go easier!
        1. Borisych
          Borisych April 19 2014 17: 33
          +9
          A meaningful comment ... how will it end?
          1. Sid.74
            Sid.74 April 19 2014 17: 41
            +25
            Quote: Borisych
            how will it end?
            Well there is an option! what

            Suddenly from the gateway
            Scary as a pirate
            Redhead and Mustache
            Ko-lo-glad!
            Colorado, Colorado, Colorado!

            He growls, and screams,
            A-Ka-em moves:
            "Wait, don't rush,
            I will take revenge on the Rugul!
            I will forbid you MOV, I will not have mercy! "

            Ukrainians trembled
            They fainted.

            Yarosh from fear
            I ate Yaytsenyuk.

            And spitspidrozdil
            Salo swallowed.

            Timoshenko, all trembling
            And sat down on the hedgehog.

            So became Colorado
            winner,
            Lviv and Selyukov ruler.
            The raguli submitted to the mustachioed.
            (To him to fail,
            damned!)
            laughing
            1. archi.sailor
              archi.sailor April 19 2014 17: 59
              +10
              very hard poem, thank you very much Sid.74 for the mood. I'm lying under the table laughing
              1. Klepa
                Klepa April 19 2014 18: 39
                +45
                A new teacher comes to class.
                - My name is Arseny Petrovich, I am a Bandera. Children, take turns introducing yourself as I do ...
                - My name is Oleg, I am a Bandera ...
                - My name is Irina, I am Bandera ...
                - My name is Vitalik, I am a Bandera ...
                - My name is Little Johnny, I am Stalinist.
                - Little Johnny, why are you a Stalinist? !!
                - My mother is Stalinist, my father is Stalinist, my friends are Stalinists, and I, too, are Stalinist.
                - Little Johnny, and if your mother were a prostitute, your dad was a drug addict, your sister was a whore, and your friends were gay, who would you be then ?!
                - Then I would be a Bandera!
            2. 11111mail.ru
              11111mail.ru April 19 2014 23: 02
              +4
              Quote: Sid.74
              Well there is an option!

              Oh thank you! Nicola was not a fan of S.Ya. Marshak, but such a remake! Bravo!
          2. svetlomor
            svetlomor April 19 2014 18: 13
            +7
            Quote: Borisych
            A meaningful comment ... how will it end?

            Our Victory!
          3. 0603
            0603 April 19 2014 19: 21
            +2
            end like this

            [media = http: // http: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = yocaZockSGU]
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        3. jjj
          jjj April 19 2014 19: 23
          +8
          Quote: Sid.74
          And information about the 20 captive PMC fighters! It turns out that a senior CIA coordinator disappeared along with them!

          That is why the States are so boiling and demand in a few days to withdraw Russian saboteurs from Ukraine. Apparently, really our work there
        4. zol1
          zol1 April 19 2014 19: 33
          +6
          There is infa that this group is already in Russia at the disposal of the relevant services!
          1. CALL.
            CALL. April 20 2014 01: 05
            +1
            Quote: zol1
            There is infa that this group is already in Russia at the disposal of the relevant services!

            Where is the information from. I really wish it to be so. Then banderlogs are written.
          2. Corsair
            Corsair April 20 2014 01: 42
            +2
            Quote: zol1
            There is infa that this group is already in Russia at the disposal of the relevant services!

            This infa will never pop up anywhere and never in full.

            The "specialists" from PMCs themselves will not understand (only at the level of guesses) WHO captured them, WHERE they were taken out, and WHO was interrogating ...
        5. samoletil18
          samoletil18 April 19 2014 19: 51
          +5
          About 20 American contraceptives have already become annoying (those with whom they are located know what to do with them), and for EW, in addition to the plus, a separate THANKS.
          1. 11111mail.ru
            11111mail.ru April 19 2014 23: 05
            +3
            Quote: samoletil18
            for EW, in addition to the plus - a separate THANKS.

            That's it! For 24 flights of the object, a lot can be drawn. And then: "Aegis, Aegis" ... Aegis.s.s.ssss ....
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        7. GRune
          GRune April 19 2014 20: 47
          +2
          It is hoped that about Khibiny and Amer is not a duck ...
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        8. alexng
          alexng April 19 2014 23: 26
          +8
          - How to measure a strong athlete?
          - We must multiply the mushrooms by acceleration!


          The Americans were not given this understanding, and Zadornov was right when speaking about the Americans ... What did they trample on the post-Soviet space? They will finally disappear.
    3. officer29
      officer29 April 19 2014 16: 15
      +6
      Quote: MainBeam
      But when will it end? The Maidan authorities were screwed up to the fullest, have no popular support, except for the right-wing ones.

      Yes, the maydanutyu power already does not support the pravoseki! Suffice it to recall the attempt to storm the Verkhovna Rada on March 27! The people of Kiev are no longer silent, but begin, while in a polite manner, to express their indignation. And Maidan, so he already demands the "lustration" of the "new government" itself! Their existence is only a matter of time ... crying request
      1. Borisych
        Borisych April 19 2014 17: 35
        +5
        If they reach the elections, and the result does not satisfy the maydancers, then the process will continue, and so on to infinity, until someone disperses them.
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      3. serge siberian
        serge siberian April 19 2014 18: 29
        +1
        Quote: officer29
        And Maidan, so he already demands the "lustration" of the "new government" itself! Their existence is only a matter of time ...


        well, with maydanuty it is clear (although I did not quite understand the word "lustration"). and the verse is also not in Russian. no, I don’t press how praiseki that everything is in Russian, but the language can be broken about these words. yes, you can forget Russian ...
        1. officer29
          officer29 April 19 2014 18: 51
          +1
          Quote: serzh sibiryak
          I did not quite understand the word "lustration")

          "Lustration" - translated from "Mova" - REVISION! That is, the revision of activities, income generation, acquisition of property and rights to it. hi
          1. 11111mail.ru
            11111mail.ru April 19 2014 23: 22
            +1
            Quote: officer29
            That is, a review of activities, income generation, acquisition of property and rights to it.

            Well, damn it, you are a smart person ... "Perdukov = stool" did not work? M. b. invite maydauns to Moscow? M.B. scratch themselves? I would have sharpened the stake for Taburetkin's "21", and there is also a CIATIM-201 bank. (To the Apollon moderator and Banshee in vain with them, I ask you not to count "21" as a hidden checkmate). Happy Easter to you "Orthodox" An & B-ee mentioned in vain! wink
    4. Sandov
      Sandov April 19 2014 18: 20
      +8
      Quote: MainBeam
      Hedgehog - a proud bird, until you kick - will not fly.

      But seriously - the South-East should be separated and form an independent republic.
      1. Corsair
        Corsair April 20 2014 04: 07
        0
        Quote: Sandov
        But seriously - the South-East should be separated and form an independent republic.

        This does not coincide with our interests ...
    5. Yakut
      Yakut April 19 2014 18: 40
      +10
      I think not everything is "cloudless" as it is presented here in the article. Not so helpless, this Kiev junta. The east is not so uniform. As we can see, supporters of a unitary Ukraine go out to rallies in Donbass, and they are not so few in number. And of the entire "Army" sent to them, only Dnepropetrovsk residents remained with the people, and even then a part. So, euphoria and underestimation of the enemy, the path to defeat ... I see that the main drawback of the protest movement in the east is the absence of a charismatic, decisive LEADER. Only such a person could clearly outline the tasks, put them in declarations, convey to the people and lead the protest forces to fulfill these tasks. And so ... there is no leader ... a scattered confrontation? there are no clear GENERAL objectives and requirements ... there is no creation of effective administrative and management structures ... etc.
      I still don’t understand why OUR comrades do not provide non-private assistance in implementing the methodology and organizing the protest movement. This omission seems ...
      1. koshh
        koshh April 19 2014 20: 39
        +2
        Quote: Yakut
        I still don’t understand why OUR comrades do not provide non-private assistance in implementing the methodology and organizing the protest movement. This omission seems ...

        I agree with everything, the only thing I think "OUR comrades" still help methodically and consulting. But for consultations on organizing both a protest movement and further actions, there is Aksenov, who will gladly tell you everything.
      2. lg41
        lg41 April 19 2014 20: 44
        +2
        leaders of the protest movement, the SBU knits and takes them to Kiev. classifies them after being detained as "prisoners"
        1. grog_bm
          grog_bm April 19 2014 22: 20
          +1
          There will be no dialogue - it's a pity !!! The campaign is really Jacob Kedmi right ... the way only to the west to the border with Poland .....
      3. not main
        not main April 20 2014 00: 03
        0
        Quote: Yakut
        the main drawback of the protest movement of the east is the lack of a charismatic, decisive LEADER

        Right was comrade CHE!
      4. Egor-dis
        Egor-dis April 20 2014 17: 18
        +1
        Quote: Yakut
        Not so unified east. As we see, supporters of unitary Ukraine go to rallies in the Donbass, and they are not so small in number.

        Can you tell how such rallies are organized? In Lugansk, a university from Kiev received a call "on the 17th of the lesson to cancel, send all students to a rally in support of" united ". Under the threat of dismissal of the leadership." Teachers - for students "there are no 17 classes, but by 9:00 there is a general gathering near the" Ukraine "cinema and a march to the SBU building with Ukrainian symbols and in support of the united and indivisible". Here is the propaganda media from the central TV channels, which, filmed in the right angle, create a picture of the 100500-million rally in support of "food and drink of Ukraine". So don't get fooled. NO UKRAINIAN TV CHANNEL GIVES OBJECTIVE OR TRUE INFORMATION. 200% PROPAGANDA.
    6. 1812 1945
      1812 1945 April 19 2014 19: 54
      +2
      Then it's over Mainbeam - when the junta will be on the other side of the fly, from which to this fly further.
    7. Ross
      Ross April 19 2014 23: 07
      +11
      On the topic of the ability to choose in Ukraine:

      - Putin: - Ukraine, you got the Prize sector. And the prizes today are from the sponsor - the European Union!
      -Ukraine: - I take the prize
      -! Putin: - I propose not to open the black box, and give you a discount on gas.
      -Ukraine: - I take the prize!
      -Putin: - in addition to the discount on gas, we give you benefits for the supply of your goods to Russia and the CIS countries.
      -Ukraine: - Prize!
      -Putin: - (looks in a black box) .... mdya ... Instead of the contents of this black box, I offer you gas discounts, benefits for the supply of your goods to Russia and the CIS, and 15 billions of dollars more, without any conditions.
      -Ukraine: - Prize!
      -Putin: - As you wish ... (takes out American cookies from a black box) - get it !!!
  2. serega.fedotov
    serega.fedotov April 19 2014 15: 53
    +9
    What awaits Ukraine? -W, Oh, P, Ah! By the way, there was an infa that Kolomoisky worked! So far, unconfirmed!
    1. olegglin
      olegglin April 19 2014 17: 06
      +17
      "Of course, the junta will not do anything that the doctor prescribed for her in Geneva, but it will prolong the death throes of poor Ukraine. And everyone understands that it is the overseas nurses who are to blame for this. The junta would immediately scatter, the Berkut and polite guys from Donbass and other places would talk to the "right sector." In Lvov, Ivano-Frankivsk, etc., the same polite staff would help Svidomo to take things out of the administrative buildings that they occupied for centuries, Yanukovych would return for a while to sign a couple of Decrees on the referendum under the strict supervision of all those who ensured a transparent referendum in Crimea, and there really let the people finally have their say.

      And as long as the Americans get tangled under our feet, the agony will last more and more slowly and more and more painfully. "
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    3. WKS
      WKS April 19 2014 18: 10
      +10
      Quote: serega.fedotov
      ! So far unconfirmed!

      This rogue challenged the GRU. Apparently not consciously, since most likely he had never encountered this structure before. Sooner or later ...
      1. jjj
        jjj April 19 2014 19: 26
        +4
        The GRU will not work on this individual. Not that bird. There are less costly ways.
        1. papas-57
          papas-57 April 19 2014 21: 13
          +3
          '' The GRU will not work on this individual. Wrong bird. '' WHEN TALKING ABOUT FAMILY HONOR - TALKING ABOUT MONEY IS INAPPROPRIATE!
      2. hommer
        hommer April 19 2014 19: 56
        +2
        Quote: wks
        This rogue challenged the GRU


        With eggs man. Or without brains. We will remember, grieve - no.
  3. wax
    wax April 19 2014 15: 56
    +14
    Ukraine will not be Bandera. Ukraine, most likely, will be a federation along with Galicia in its composition, because the West does not need it without Kiev.
    1. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer April 19 2014 18: 05
      +12
      I think that the West does not need Ukraine without Crimea. There will be no base for the American fleet - you have to urgently roll your rolled lips back.
      States have long understood that supporting Ukraine is a terrible hemorrhoids to the fifth point. But they can’t lose face. Therefore, they conduct the most heinous scenarios - such as louder slam the door at last.
      1. Egor-dis
        Egor-dis April 20 2014 17: 25
        0
        Quote: Stock Officer
        States have long understood that supporting Ukraine is a terrible hemorrhoids to the fifth point.
  4. Morgan
    Morgan April 19 2014 15: 57
    +15
    Only politics can act on a kick drive, the army must be motivated from the inside. Defenders of the southeast have the motivation to resist the pro-American Junta. An attempt to force pressure to the southeast is likely to fail. RUSSIAN, KEEP!
    1. officer29
      officer29 April 19 2014 16: 18
      +5
      Quote: Morgan
      the army must be motivated from within.

      The army has only one motive - do not sit down! And fear for their families remaining in the territory beyond their control!
      1. Stalevar
        Stalevar April 19 2014 18: 23
        0
        For several months in a row, people who were not only entitled, but also obliged to use force against violent crimes, were either persuaded to do nothing, or they were directly forbidden to do what should be done.
        And after all this, they were also accused of what they did not and sold for donuts.
    2. fif21
      fif21 April 19 2014 16: 31
      +9
      Quote: Morgan
      the army must be motivated from within
      This is not Chile, gentlemen of the Americans, the army was full and dressed there, therefore it killed its people! And in Ukraine the people and the army are equally poor. Thank you for distributing the weapon. This hungry man is not a comrade, but two hungry people will agree among themselves!
      1. mnbv199
        mnbv199 April 19 2014 16: 47
        +17
        On the forum of Mariupol I found a comment by a local resident:
        ... You read the comments and do not believe that they are written by Mariupol residents, it seems that sentenced Cossacks or paid by the Kiev authorities stupid people !!!!!!!, My friend’s son is in our unit, my husband is a pensioner and many of My environment, friends also work or worked in law enforcement agencies. So in the unit at that time there were strangers supposedly to help strengthen, the soldiers themselves were talking and this is already a question for the unit commander why? Probably Kolomoisky’s money decided everything, and the fire was opened by those people who were in the unit and not the soldiers !!!! And in the end, after they finished off people already outside the territory of the unit by morning, it turns out that only their soldiers were in the unit, and strangers disappeared, they weren’t ???? For 2 bottoms of all the cops disarmed, weapons were taken out of all regional departments secretly why ??????? So as not to go over to the side of the people, and so as not to frustrate the law-abductors to conduct a provocation. And why on forum 0629 and no one except the activists are silent that civilians were killed as a result of Mariupol and I am silent about the number of killed 13 people, not counting the law enforcement officers who were taken from hospitals and ambulances immediately !!!!! So much blood has not been shed in any city. Because in Donetsk, Lugansk, Slavyansk, Kramatorsk there are local residents of the patriots, and there the weapons are simply unapproachable there, and we stand purely for the idea, and the rest are working for their jobs on Azovstal and Ilyich, when they are trampled from there then they all come out, otherwise they just write letters that they alone work and they need stability. What the hell stability if salaries are cut, pay a penny. And in support of Ukraine, they also attended the rally paid. The daughter is studying at PSTU voluntarily forcibly expelled students and want to show that people are for a united Ukraine ?????? No words only emotions!!!!!!!

        And now we start to think:
        We noticed that after the events in Mariupol, in many cities of Ukraine (even supporting Kiev) they began to set up roadblocks. But the thing is that we don’t know much, but the leaders of our cities are aware of these events. Therefore, they urgently set up checkpoints from the right sector, which had gone out of control of Kiev.
        1. mnbv199
          mnbv199 April 19 2014 16: 48
          +21
          And this is from the forum: "Kiev"
          http://forum.kiev.ua/politika-ukrainy-i-rossii/6482-agressivnaya-rossiya-60.html


          19.04.2014 19.06.
          .
          I explain.
          The fact is that our Mariupol leader of military unit No. 3057, Mariupol, Nakhimov Ave. 186, tel. 0629-33-75-57, removed and replaced with a native of Kiev. Since this military unit, being of the "Internal Troops" class, took an active part in the dispersal of the Kiev Maidan. Remember the whole Internet was bypassed with pictures of beating students - so it was just that there were fighters from this unit.
          This new boss was furious that the Donetsk Republic won in Mariupol, capturing the city executive committee and reliably barricading everything. Moreover, this unit is literally one block away from the city executive committee, and the soldiers of this unit refused to go on the assault on the city executive committee.
          So such a provocation was invented.
          Initially, the fighters themselves asked our guys ... like ... to "block" this military unit, but it was necessary that it were only women and in civilian clothes, so that the chief could not say that some "terrorists" or "greens" were blocking little men ". That was how it was.
          But in the Donetsk region. quite often there is a so-called "capture" of military units, when the militiamen allegedly retreat from the allegedly attacking people, while these very "attacking" even ladders give the cops so that they could climb over the fence and supposedly ... escape ...
          So ... here the city executive committee received information that we in Mariupol will have such a "capture" of a military unit.
          Our fools and went .....
          And there .. behind the fence they were waiting for provocateurs from western Ukraine. Who opened fire point-blank ... right at the crowd ... killed 19 people, about 50 people were injured, then shot directly at the surrounding high-rise buildings with a machine gun ... even threw grenades at the surrounding high-rise houses.
          My friend’s husband was killed in his own dress room from just such a grenade.
          When this shooting started here, it was all at night (I recall), the police allegedly jumped out, and in reality it was the SBU officers, and they captured an unarmed crowd in prison. About 60 people were arrested.
          But fortunately, "sober heads" remained in the city executive committee - not all went to accept the "honorable surrender" of this military unit, and when the SBU officers rushed to storm, they were answered with gun fire, and these scum began to perish ... .ataka - choked.
          As a result, all remained "with their own" but with countless victims.
          So, friends !!
          Now we already have our own "Heavenly Hundred" !!
          And nefig Kiev is proud of the heroes ... the Southeast - now has its own martyrs and Heroes for Great Freedom !!!
          By the way ..... Russians are finally going to join us ... or do you still need to shed more of our blood ???
          1. Artyom
            Artyom April 19 2014 19: 11
            +3
            join vryatli, but as a friendly federal republic he will definitely create, you only need to be patient and fight!
          2. sssla
            sssla April 19 2014 19: 53
            -1
            Quote: mnbv199
            .Russians are finally going to join us ... or do you still need to shed more of our blood ???

            In Russia, only Putin thinks the Duma, and the rest only talk that "God forbid even a drop of blood, then WE are tagda ....." Yes, not a drop was spilled, but liters of her brother
            1. Phantom Revolution
              Phantom Revolution April 19 2014 20: 34
              +4
              Quote: sssla
              In Russia, only Putin thinks the Duma, and the rest only talk that "God forbid even a drop of blood, then WE are tagda ....." Yes, not a drop was spilled, but liters of her brother

              So what? Are you planning to shed another ton of 700?
              Do not be hysterical, the Southeast without us has completely taken up the defense, why is there still unnecessary tension and give occasion to anyone to say what kind of RF there is. The RF is to blame for everything and in general this is not a revolution but Russia has captured.
              When it will be necessary, we will come, but right now this is clearly superfluous.
              1. sssla
                sssla April 19 2014 22: 36
                0
                Quote: Phantom Revolution
                When it will be necessary, we will come, but right now this is clearly superfluous.

                Yes, no questions asked. Especially since he is not so scary .. how he is painted to what is happening with us) Only then there is no need for statements like many here on the site and the official person of Russia "That as soon as a drop so we are mulberry"))) And about ---
                Quote: Phantom Revolution
                So what? Are you planning to shed another ton of 700?
                No need to bring the situation of controlling the vital territories around Russia to such a desolate state, especially if you position yourself as a Great Power. Something like this
              2. 11111mail.ru
                11111mail.ru April 19 2014 23: 56
                0
                Quote: Phantom Revolution
                Do not be hysterical, the Southeast without us completely took the defense,

                What did the Kagan of Kiev Svyatoslav Igorevich say? Nobody is on us! Well done to the prince, "had" everyone from his boyars to John Tzimiskes.
            2. grog_bm
              grog_bm April 19 2014 22: 29
              +1
              Yes litter guys !!! There is no point in excusing oneself - yes, Putin decides in Muscovy, and you won’t get anywhere from it, but I hope his endurance comes to an end ... several facts expressed by him at a briefing with the people indicate this ..... and what Lavrov signed in many of us (RF) are untying their hands ... I hope it won’t reach much blood .....
        2. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru April 19 2014 23: 49
          +2
          Quote: mnbv199
          And now we start to think:

          This is encouraging. Sympathize with you. And the military unit where people were killed does not have a sewage system, electricity, zip code? Nobody knows the address of the commander of the military unit ????, the place of work of his wife, the kindergarten / nursery of his children, the number of his car? His colleagues probably do their military service there? A couple of lumps of sugar (the more, the better) in the gas tank of his car on the site in front of your house, punctured tires (no need to specially "hole", just a "self-tapping screw" right next to the rear wheel. Or use a nail (screwdriver) to scratch the door close to the rubber under glass ... Damn, why am I teaching a woman to spit in soup! (And can you really spit?) Everything is in your hands. Fascists in 1942-44 "survived" from the living space? Here is the flag in your hands !. And guess how to insert three feathers into the bandenriks. By the way, they say, there was a case with clophilin and Armenians with carnations in an interesting place in Khmelnitsky in 1989.
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  5. Grenz
    Grenz April 19 2014 16: 08
    +24
    Today was a TV show from Ivano-Frankivsk. They asked different categories of people about the events in Ukraine.
    All in one voice - Russia is our enemy. In Crimea there is a dispossession, houses, dachas, and land are being taken away. If people don’t swear allegiance to Russia, they don’t get paid money, etc.
    Here is the result of an information war in which the junta hopes to win.
    It is sad, but with the help of the United States, a significant part of Western Ukraine, most likely, will never be at peace with Russia, and even with its eastern brothers, whom it calls "Putin's gang."
    Collect at least four Geneva, but apparently there will no longer be a country called Ukraine.
    1. Borisych
      Borisych April 19 2014 17: 44
      +8
      Western Ukraine has always been against Great Russia.
      1. lg41
        lg41 April 19 2014 20: 55
        0
        Gallicians (Celts) are not Slavs. They only have a spoken language (govirka) similar to Ukrainian (mov)
        1. grog_bm
          grog_bm April 19 2014 22: 31
          +1
          No, earlier in the 12th-13th centuries it was RUSA, then they were mixed in so much blood that it was in fact more than Poles ...
          1. Setrac
            Setrac April 21 2014 12: 42
            0
            Quote: grog_bm
            No, earlier in the 12th-13th centuries it was RUSA, then they were mixed in so much blood that it was in fact more than Poles ...

            Genetics is an exact science, and it says that the Galicians are 70 percent Celts, then the Semites, and only then the Slavs, they are not brothers to us.
        2. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru April 20 2014 07: 50
          0
          Quote: lg41
          Gallicians (Celts) are not Slavs. They only have

          With respect to the Celts, but the Galicians were never them, in the story about geese, Rome was saved, the leader of the Celts "Brennus" is mentioned, who threw his sword on the scales while weighing the ransom. Ukronatsik can only steal and put nothing on the scales. Even their foreskin, for they have already sold and drank.
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    3. Artyom
      Artyom April 19 2014 19: 13
      +4
      you can fool one, you can many, but to deceive everyone all the time does not work, everything will put time in its place! You will see.
    4. ty60
      ty60 April 19 2014 19: 52
      0
      and in fact it didn’t exist. Even in the 80th year of the last century. It was a dummy.
    5. mark7
      mark7 April 19 2014 20: 13
      +1
      Quote: grenz
      Collect at least four Geneva, but apparently there will no longer be a country called Ukraine.

      And, her, and was not as such, it was not in vain that this abscess broke
    6. Setrac
      Setrac April 21 2014 12: 41
      0
      Quote: grenz
      It is sad, but with the help of the United States, a significant part of Western Ukraine, most likely, will never be at peace with Russia, and even with its eastern brothers, whom it calls "Putin's gang."

      Western Ukraine has always been against Russia and the USSR, it was they who disguised themselves as friends.
  6. Alexgs
    Alexgs April 19 2014 16: 09
    +38
    I will not comment on this, just listen.
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    2. Submarine B-41
      Submarine B-41 April 19 2014 16: 54
      +5
      Quote: AlexGS
      I will not comment on this, just listen.

      I will not comment either. But how to combine these two absolutely incompatible worlds ????

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      2. FREGATENKAPITAN
        FREGATENKAPITAN April 19 2014 17: 26
        +18
        And the miner incidentally kicked Kiev ass away (see above) 2-0! So, let banderlogs continue to jump!
        1. Corsair
          Corsair April 20 2014 12: 26
          0
          Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
          And the miner incidentally kicked Kiev ass away (see above) 2-0! So, let banderlogs continue to jump!
          The team of ONE oligarch, consisting of foreign players, beat the same team of the OTHER oligarch ...

          Well, if only OLIGARCHS "galloped" at the request and will of their people ...
      3. Alexgs
        Alexgs April 19 2014 17: 26
        +8
        Brother, forgive me, perhaps I will now say things that will offend you - Not even close and not close. These zapadnitsky scum will never defeat us "Slavs".
        1. Submarine B-41
          Submarine B-41 April 19 2014 17: 50
          +12
          Quote: AlexGS
          Brother, forgive me, perhaps I will now say things that will offend you - Not even close and not close. These zapadnitsky scum will never defeat us "Slavs". Well, what I printed here ... well, compare = A bunch of fans against the whole stadium.


          Why did you decide that your opinion would offend me?
          Firstly, you probably watched the recording (in the subway) that I inserted by mistake. It really is "the wrong scale". Look at the stadium.
          Secondly, I wrote "how to combine these two incompatible worlds", not assuming a military conflict, but realizing that in any scenario it is impossible to physically destroy all opponents, and therefore, this infection will be near our borders for an indefinitely long time. Moreover, our sworn friends will support this abscess with all their might.
          Sincerely.
        2. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru April 20 2014 07: 53
          0
          Quote: AlexGS
          zapadnitsky scum

          ... zapadenskim ...
      4. svp67
        svp67 April 19 2014 17: 28
        +22
        Quote: PL B-41
        But how to combine these two absolutely incompatible worlds ????

        "The rams go and beat the drums, and the rams themselves give the skin for them." Berthold Brecht.
      5. starhina01
        starhina01 April 19 2014 17: 41
        +3
        but not everyone jumped on the video so that not everything is lost hi
      6. Yakut
        Yakut April 19 2014 18: 54
        +3
        THIS CLINIC, Germany on the 33rd is resting, full zombie people !!!!!!!!!!!
      7. nalim
        nalim April 19 2014 19: 05
        +1
        banderlog ... as in the cartoon about Mowgli
        1. smart Fox
          smart Fox April 19 2014 20: 37
          +2
          And Putin somewhere at some press conference said: "Closer, bandarlogs, closer."
          And in the Kaa cartoon they later gobbled up them. So let these children show this cartoon
      8. koshh
        koshh April 19 2014 21: 11
        0
        Yes ... as shown by euronews - "no comments".
      9. Corsair
        Corsair April 20 2014 12: 16
        0
        Quote: PL B-41
        I will not comment either. But how to combine these two absolutely incompatible worlds ????
        It is worth clarifying where the WORLD, and where the CRAN ...
      10. krpmlws
        krpmlws April 20 2014 14: 57
        0
        How to combine? Everything is simpler than it seems: the inclusion of Ukraine into the Russian Federation or the advent of reasonable people in Ukraine and the use of literate, Ukrainians-oriented, political technologies. Any people, it will sound cynical, easy to suggest, easy to manipulate. what is happening at the Ukrainian stadium is a typical example of a sick mass consciousness sick with Nazism. Someone can be cured, mainly young people and children, someone can be sent to places not so remote.
      11. SHAKESPEARE
        SHAKESPEARE April 22 2014 11: 59
        0
        Why not flatter Ukraine for these actions of fans to play in their clubs in Europe, as well as expel them from the UEFA club. Russia needs to file a complaint about the behavior of neo-fascists.
    3. Borisych
      Borisych April 19 2014 17: 47
      +2
      Already breathtaking !!!
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  7. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 April 19 2014 16: 09
    +10
    RUSSIANS IN UKRAINE must separate from the BANDERS. Stop feeding them. good
    1. s1н7т
      s1н7т April 19 2014 17: 35
      +5
      Quote: cerbuk6155
      RUSSIANS IN UKRAINE must separate from the BANDERS.

      Hands itch to correct, excuse me: Russians in Ukraine must destroy Bandera! It is impossible to separate - they crawl back under any other sauce.
      1. ty60
        ty60 April 19 2014 20: 05
        +1
        for they themselves do not want to feed and cannot
  8. Cristall
    Cristall April 19 2014 16: 19
    +14
    Watching whom to call
    Quote: cerbuk6155
    BANDER

    People with stupefied brains? And if it’s brother, sister? He’s such a zombie creator .. he’s not sparing.
    The first thing to separate is the zombie creature from people, and Ukraine from Kiev, and not from Galicia and others.
    People are simply deceived. Exploiting the theme of love for the native land, the protection of the earth, the unity of the world --- the zombie box directs our emotions to the "enemy" who "wants" to take it all away.
    Believe me, if you turn on the media in any country like ours, then you can find it everywhere ...
    1. lg41
      lg41 April 19 2014 21: 01
      +1
      Galicia is not Ukraine
  9. Submarine B-41
    Submarine B-41 April 19 2014 16: 24
    +44
    Until the WHOLE PEOPLE of the Southeast rises against the Kiev impostors, there will be no current!
    1. Belarus
      Belarus April 19 2014 16: 57
      +29
      Here, golden words! As they say right to the point!
      No, I understand that you need to feed your family, well, go to work,BUT this is all good ONLY in the short term, short term.
      Then they will simply strangle everyone or make slaves of western Ukraine and make them pay for their own humiliation.
      Right if you go to rallies only on weekends and after work and constantly wait for Russia to help then then it would not be worth starting all.
      1. krpmlws
        krpmlws April 20 2014 15: 12
        0
        Quote: Belarus
        Here, golden words! As they say right to the point!
        No, I understand that you need to feed your family, well, go to work,BUT this is all good ONLY in the short term, short term.
        Then they will simply strangle everyone or make slaves of western Ukraine and make them pay for their own humiliation.
        Right if you go to rallies only on weekends and after work and constantly wait for Russia to help then then it would not be worth starting all.

        Yes, this is generally the weakness of the Russian people: the naive belief that the good uncle will do everything for them. For the Russian people to take up arms en masse, the enemy must make a bunch of serious mistakes. As in the Second World War, a mass partisan movement began in response to the gallows, burned villages, theft of youth in Germany. Modern neo-fascism learned a lesson from the mistakes of classical fascists, therefore aggression is carried out through colonial policy, information war. The victim simply does not fully recognize the degree of threat, which is why the majority of the Russian people in the southwestern region sleeping, unfortunately.
        1. Setrac
          Setrac April 21 2014 12: 49
          0
          Quote: krpmlws
          .As in the Second World War, the mass partisan movement began in response to the gallows, the burned villages, the theft of youth in Germany.

          The mass partisan movement was organized from the center, organizers, demolition men, signalmen and other saboteurs were sent by planes. Does the surname "Starinov" mean anything to you?
    2. Albus
      Albus April 19 2014 19: 26
      +4
      It is very true said. And unity is necessary as in the Crimea!
    3. koshh
      koshh April 19 2014 21: 17
      +2
      It is difficult even in the southeast to get rid of what they have been pushing into the minds for 23 years: "MY HUT WITH THE BORDER". I feel sorry for them and hurt for them.
  10. mig31
    mig31 April 19 2014 16: 25
    +5
    Ukroimmititory - some sort of sex shop, not a state ...
  11. mamont5
    mamont5 April 19 2014 16: 31
    +1
    "If the south and east show the same degree of inability to live and act as the current Kiev gang displays, then (although this is extremely unlikely) I will have to admit that Ukraine no longer exists."

    No, we will definitely help these guys. I think this issue is already being worked out.
  12. Valkh
    Valkh April 19 2014 16: 32
    +3
    Yes, Yarosh has also not been heard for a long time !!! Or the gas began to produce for Europe or the zomboyaschik stopped watching !!! bully
  13. homosum20
    homosum20 April 19 2014 16: 35
    +7
    Quote from the article
    ".. Well, how will events develop now? There are a lot of options ...".
    In fact, there are not many, 2-3. And they differ among themselves only in the area of ​​territories that will be part of Russia.
  14. Gunsmith
    Gunsmith April 19 2014 16: 39
    +9
    Donetsk seems to be armed so well, no one will go there. It seems to me that the rest of the SE a long time ago agreed with each other * by a mutual assistance agreement *, that the Ukrainian army and the Kuevsk Vlad are not shackled. It’s scary, because they understand that after the start of the civil war that they unleashed, nothing will remain from the eggs and other draggers in a very short time, maybe they won’t even be able to take their legs away. If there is no agreement on mutual assistance, the absence of any forceful actions on the part of the kuev and are happy with regard to the same SE directly speaks of the complete impotence of Kiev. Whatever the Phishington Regional Committee didn’t want, it seemed, it was dreaming. States, in my opinion, do not know how to get out of this situation - they needed Crimea with a developed naval infrastructure, but it did not work out. And now Ukrainians are like a suitcase without a handle for them. It’s a pity to abandon - they will lose the face * of the powers that be *, drag them unbearable, although everyone understood in Europe that they can and should be sent (business is more expensive than some overseas shouts there). Ukrainians are left to their own devices and the Kremlin, and time works for us. Do you think that SE is working and regularly transfers taxes, fees and other levies to the Kuevsk treasury? .. And Europe and the States are seamlessly transferring the promised money? Here it’s clear to everyone - the end of this tightened story is much closer than it seems to Kuev and Kuev’s parliament.
  15. individual
    individual April 19 2014 16: 42
    +26
    Hard for Ukrainians.
    If Maidan Ukraine was preparing for a well-known scenario at training bases in Lithuania and Poland, they were prepared by mentors from the special services of the USA, Germany, and local oligarchs were preparing a coup.
    Just what was being prepared for May 2015. The next presidential election, made at the end of 2013.
    Bender’s Ukraine was financially, materially and morally to seize power, then Yu \ In Ukraine did not expect, either by sleep or spirit, that they would be confronted with the fact of a state coup and the transformation of Russians in Ukraine into the second-class category.
    Without ties with Russia, without the right to teach children the Russian language, without the representation of their delegates at all levels of self-proclaimed authority.
    In general, the junta’s henchmen will not let them live.
    Hence there is no readiness to give a decisive rebuff to newcomers from the west.
    But here it is appropriate to recall:
    "The Russians take a long time to harness" ..! And then fly the bird-three and where you will stop only God knows.

    With the holiday of you Orthodox with Easter!
    Happy Holidays of the Resurrection!
  16. Tanechka-clever
    Tanechka-clever April 19 2014 16: 46
    +13
    "... it looks very nice when several men with one obscenity force the tank to retreat, but it is clear: this only means that the tankers themselves are not at all eager to shoot." - so after all, a normal military man does not want to become a war criminal. And besides, Putin correctly said that the Maidan today makes the military do what "Berkut" is judging for - though without the guilt of the guilty. Thus, today in Ukraine - no matter what order you obey - you will be a criminal, it might be better - DO NOT KILL, so that later you would not be ashamed of the past years and in the future in front of the grandchildren and the fallen on this earth. Better yet, go over to the southeast side and support them and jointly expel this American fascist pack from their native land
  17. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 19 2014 16: 55
    +11
    The civil war is in full swing in Ukraine, if the military component has just begun, then the ideological one has long been. And we did not start it. We are just witnessing what is happening, and have only recently begun to support Russian speakers. Helping to destroy the fascist junta is our holy task.
    1. ty60
      ty60 April 19 2014 20: 28
      +1
      help. Not hurrying, but quickly. Without excessive fanaticism. In Holy Russia, martial arts lessons have long been learned. Crimea is an example.
  18. Siberian 1975
    Siberian 1975 April 19 2014 17: 05
    +16
    I know what is interesting. Europeans yell that we, always drunk and uncouth, and how they explain to their children how we, such moral ones, have managed to roll so many times for them. How could we repel two such powerful invasions from united Europe under Napoleon and Hitler? This is not taking into account other wars, smaller in scale, where we won.
    1. avia1991
      avia1991 April 19 2014 23: 58
      +2
      Quote: Sibiryak 1975
      and how they explain to their children how we, so moral, managed to roll them so many times.

      Siberian, and who said that they teach children a true story? In the States, children have long believed that Hitler their fucking America won in one hat!
  19. surovts.valery
    surovts.valery April 19 2014 17: 16
    +12
    Quote: Sid.74
    And information about the 20 captive PMC fighters! It turns out that a senior CIA coordinator disappeared along with them!

    Respect, if it's not a fake. But as I understand it, if in reality these guys are captured, then this will not be advertised. Much more benefit from this will be gained in backstage negotiations, for example, in the obligations of their side - not to send more of these guys to Ukraine. They have their own games, secret ones, we cannot understand.
    1. alynin
      alynin April 19 2014 17: 48
      +5
      It looks like a special operation by the FSB or carried out under their leadership.
      1. 225chay
        225chay April 19 2014 21: 43
        0
        Quote: alynin
        It looks like a special operation by the FSB or carried out under their leadership.


        GRU!
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    3. ty60
      ty60 April 19 2014 20: 30
      0
      easy-to-understand trading conditions are very specific!
  20. sv68
    sv68 April 19 2014 17: 24
    +9
    there is a sign, if the enemy is silent for a long time, then wait for troubles. it’s just that some Kiev politicians do not declare themselves, not to good. but ... if they were sent to another world, that’s another matter
  21. typhoon7
    typhoon7 April 19 2014 17: 27
    +4
    I think the decisive events will unfold after the Passover. All areas of the Southeast should rise, then the junta will just sit in a puddle, it will not trample against all. Donetsk, possibly a springboard for the return of Yanyk, after which the restoration of order in the country and reform will begin. By the way, this is the most bloodless option, alone, this is a long exhausting civil war, which will throw the country into the Stone Age. Hopefully, this option of GDP has been ruled out.
    1. Borisych
      Borisych April 19 2014 17: 52
      +1
      It is at the same time in all directions and to end at once with this snake nest.
    2. Borisych
      Borisych April 19 2014 17: 52
      0
      It is at the same time in all directions and to end at once with this snake nest.
  22. mivmim
    mivmim April 19 2014 17: 33
    +3
    Announcement on unian.net
    Due to the increasing provocations and inciting ethnic hatred in the comments, we decided to temporarily disable the ability to comment on materials on the site.

    Looks tired of getting mats in the comments.
    Pay attention to the table of contents of articles:
    14:45 Miners called Putin an insolent and cynic for "drunkards-miners"
    13:13 A civilian helicopter was fired over Slavyansk
    13:09 US intends to help Ukraine return stolen assets
    13:05 69,8% of residents of the South-East of Ukraine consider Yanukovych illegitimate president
    12:30 Russian FSB is working out the issue of possible deportation of Crimean Tatars - Dzhemilev
    12:05 Putin will award the military of the Russian Federation for the annexation of Crimea
  23. kuzia-roker
    kuzia-roker April 19 2014 17: 36
    +2
    Quote: PL B-41
    Until the WHOLE PEOPLE of the Southeast rises against the Kiev impostors, there will be no current!

    as exactly said. respect
  24. SHAKESPEARE
    SHAKESPEARE April 19 2014 17: 43
    +4
    look everyone, these scum bastards of humanity spread their exploits in the internet, how can you live with them in the country. look to the end.
  25. Borisych
    Borisych April 19 2014 17: 50
    +5
    Quote: c1n7
    Quote: cerbuk6155
    RUSSIANS IN UKRAINE must separate from the BANDERS.

    Hands itch to correct, excuse me: Russians in Ukraine must destroy Bandera! It is impossible to separate - they crawl back under any other sauce.

    I agree, it is to destroy these creatures.
    1. Belarus
      Belarus April 19 2014 18: 23
      +1
      In general, it would be ideal to do so, so that these bastards. And reprieve themselves. And
  26. tnship2
    tnship2 April 19 2014 18: 08
    0
    Ukraine is an example to all of us that happens if ideological cement is abolished in society. Around what should they unite? Take a walk-field, each on its own.
  27. Nikoha.2010
    Nikoha.2010 April 19 2014 18: 29
    +2
    I looked at the photo of the article and agree that after the Ukrainian soldiers in armored vehicles disappeared in the city of Slavyansk, the battalion of the national army moved towards the city ..... it was simply rumored that there was FEED! smile
  28. Yakut
    Yakut April 19 2014 18: 41
    +2
    I think not everything is "cloudless" as presented here in the article. Not so helpless, this Kiev junta. The east is not so uniform. As we can see, supporters of a unitary Ukraine go out to rallies in Donbass, and they are not so few in number. And of the entire "Army" sent to them, only Dnepropetrovsk residents remained with the people, and even then a part. So, euphoria and underestimation of the enemy, the path to defeat ... I see that the main drawback of the protest movement in the east is the absence of a charismatic, decisive LEADER. Only such a person could clearly arrange tasks, put them in declarations, convey to the people and lead the protest forces to fulfill these tasks. And so ... there is no leader ... a scattered confrontation? there are no clear GENERAL objectives and requirements ... there is no creation of effective administrative and management structures ... etc.
    I still don’t understand why OUR comrades do not provide non-private assistance in implementing the methodology and organizing the protest movement. This omission seems ...
    1. papas-57
      papas-57 April 19 2014 21: 05
      0
      “I think not everything is“ cloudless ”as it is presented here in the article.” Honestly, if the Kiev junta had a desire to pacify the South-East, then the actions would be like this - today one city, tomorrow another, the day after tomorrow a third. And all this is extremely cruel, not counting the deaths on one side or the other. MAIN RESULT. And the winners are not judged. But the fact is that the junta has no executors even for such a result. Either they will go over to the side of the `` enemy '' (army), or scatter (national guard).
    2. papas-57
      papas-57 April 19 2014 21: 05
      0
      “I think not everything is“ cloudless ”as it is presented here in the article.” Honestly, if the Kiev junta had a desire to pacify the South-East, then the actions would be like this - today one city, tomorrow another, the day after tomorrow a third. And all this is extremely cruel, not counting the deaths on one side or the other. MAIN RESULT. And the winners are not judged. But the fact is that the junta has no executors even for such a result. Either they will go over to the side of the `` enemy '' (army), or scatter (national guard).
  29. I am Russian
    I am Russian April 19 2014 18: 41
    +8
    READ CAREFULLY BANNERS !!!
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  30. Counter
    Counter April 19 2014 18: 51
    +1
    Quote: grenz
    a significant part of western Ukraine, most likely, will never be at peace with Russia, and even with its eastern brothers, whom it calls "Putin's gang."

    What is Galichina, and who are the zapadents, Armen Asriyan very historically correctly and truthfully described. Does the Russian world need this land and these people who have spread throughout central Ukraine, a philosophical question. Link to this article http://topwar.ru/40973-zachem-ukraine-novorossiya.html
  31. I am Russian
    I am Russian April 19 2014 18: 57
    +8
    Brothers Serbs for Russians in Crimea !!!

    1. Chikua
      Chikua April 19 2014 22: 07
      +2
      Ukraine Odessa Giant rally
  32. Mosquito
    Mosquito April 19 2014 18: 58
    +2
    "... in chess he sacrificed a pawn and received
    Advantage. We don't have chess. We have people ... "
    From the film "Stormy Gates"


    The great chess game will end only when everyone dies.

    Chess game. The match between the USA and Russia. Chessboard - Ukraine. The match began 23 years ago exactly after the collapse of the USSR. The board is cooked. The figures are arranged. The players got ready for the game. The bet of the game is neither more nor less - life. The chess debut began a long time. Neither shaky nor roll. Players often took a break. The pieces moved slowly along the board. Either taking this or that position, then handing it over to the enemy. Favorable position was occupied by one or the other. Sometimes pretending that this chess game is not interesting to any of the players. And by 2014, the main figures are in their places.
    Having prepared a profitable place for your figures. In 2013, Russia invited Ukraine to join the Customs Union and at the same time receive protection of its field from the enemy. The enemy launched a massive attack with pawns (Maidan). The blow of the attack of the phalanx of pawns was so strong that one of the significant pieces (Yanukovych) almost flew off the chessboard. But all was saved and taken to the rear. After the pawns, the United States pushed forward a number of significant figures of Turchininov (Elephant). Yatsenyuk (Horse) Timoshenko (Rook). And several pawns (Yarosh. Klitschko) took a very advantageous position. Concentrating the main
    attention and percussion pieces on one edge of the board and having achieved some advantage. The United States lost sight of its other land for a while. CRIMEA. Having made a rather unusual and tricky move, the horse took possession of the Crimea. Quickly outfitting the horse with pawns and covering with strong pieces.
    Some chess analysts believe that this could not have done without a gambit from the United States. Donating Crimea, they gained an advantage in the territory controlled by it. In the form of propaganda among pawns. Others, I believe that, having occupied Crimea, Russia did not allow the development of a further party in this territory. That is, the United States could not deliver here its heavy figures in the form of NATO bases. Whether or not time will tell. All the attention of the audience focused on the further game.
    The enemy often and sometimes meaninglessly moved his strong pieces across the Ukrainian field. That Yatsenyuk went for a few hours to Donetsk. That Turchininov began to wrest his army in the forests and shares. Then Tymoshenko decided to destroy all the pawns only by a strong atomic move. The pieces often made a move one cell back and forth depicting a seething activity. (Today laws were passed tomorrow they were canceled). At the moment, the enemy made his move. Again deciding to repeat luck with the pawns. moved his pawns (National Guard. Army) to the pro-Russian field. In order to knock out as many enemy pawns as possible and occupy as large territory as possible. And to make impossible maneuver for strong figures. But correctly placed Russian pawns repelled the first onslaught. And even they themselves went on the offensive, albeit not in all areas. In addition, there was again talk about the return, albeit battered but still strong figure of Yanukovych. Putin did not make a big attack saying that Novorossia. In vain they gave to Ukraine. Supporting the morale of his pawns.
    There are a lot of chess etudes analysts and each is his own grandmaster. So far, the players have not taken a long break (Geneva talks). Everyone was waiting for this exciting party. Who and what will make the next move ………………… ..
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  34. I am Russian
    I am Russian April 19 2014 19: 01
    +3
    Great Mother Russia !!!
    Slavs - Great Nation!
  35. serge siberian
    serge siberian April 19 2014 19: 07
    +1
    guys. let's give it a while. let’s imagine that the southeast will be united. They have enough weapons. and that in unity, strength, every well-educated person in the vastness of OUR COUNTRY knows THE USSR.
    1. Ustas
      Ustas April 20 2014 11: 26
      0
      Quote: serzh sibiryak
      guys. let's give it a while. let’s imagine the southeast will be united. They have enough weapons. and that in unity, strength, every well-educated person knows in the vastness of OUR USSR.

      We need a leader who will unite all areas of the South-East of Ukraine.
  36. siberalt
    siberalt April 19 2014 19: 12
    -2
    That's it, guys! "Stand up". The civil war has been canceled. I do not see joyful faces. There will be local clashes in regional centers, but already with "thugs" without showing a passport. Such as: about the possible appearance of the people of the former as the present, May 9 and the day, as it were, elections. And that's all. The session is over. If truth be told, people are tired. But radical changes are inevitable.
    1. I read the news
      I read the news April 20 2014 04: 42
      +3
      Can I disassemble the checkpoints and diverge?
      The junta has eliminated itself, fascism has been defeated, the right sector is completely busy at Komsomol construction sites.
      It seems to me, or did you mean something else?
  37. Albus
    Albus April 19 2014 19: 18
    0
    Quote: mnbv199
    By the way ..... Russians are finally going to join us ... or do you still need to shed more of our blood ???

    We are ready for everything for our brothers, and you don’t need your blood! Only if Russia starts joining the Southeast SAMA (and this is only expected in the West), then a lot of blood will flow like a river, because among the inhabitants of the Southeast there are many who is fundamentally against the intervention of Russia. There is no unity like in Crimea yet. Make a referendum faster and join!
  38. mamont5
    mamont5 April 19 2014 19: 33
    +1
    The Ukrainian military uses a new tactic to restore order in the Donbass. Combine business with pleasure.

    “The Slavyansk self-defense fighter revealed a new tactic of representatives of the Ukrainian military formations. According to Yevhen Gorbik, they are trying to negotiate with the militias on the fictitious liberation of administrative buildings.
    For the sake of money, the participants in the so-called special operation in southeastern Ukraine are ready to cheat.
    - This is a classic of betrayal. The security forces in Gorlovka, coveting Kolomoisky's money, tried to storm the building occupied by self-defense activists, ”Yevgeny said. - Having received a rebuff, they, through their representatives in Sloviansk, contacted us and offered us to hand over the SBU building to them. They just wanted money. They promise 200 thousand, so they are ready to cheat. "
    http://lifenews.ru/news/131619
  39. delfinN
    delfinN April 19 2014 20: 02
    +6
    Keep help
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru April 20 2014 07: 58
      0
      Quote: delfinN
      Keep help

      Oh, really? Then without a parachute! And go ahead!
  40. 0603
    0603 April 19 2014 20: 02
    0
    In order not to provoke Putin, Lviv abandoned the traditional march in memory of the SS "Galicia"
    video here
    http://24tv.ua/home/showSingleNews.do?chtobi_ne_provotsirovat_putina_vo_lvove_ot
    kazalis_ot_traditsionnogo_marsha_pamyati_ss_galichina & objectId = 434068 & lang = ru & la
    ng = ru
  41. samoletil18
    samoletil18 April 19 2014 20: 12
    0
    The state of permanent crisis in Ukraine is a guarantee of the possibility of introducing a state of emergency at any moment necessary for an illegitimate government. Even after any outcome of the elections already announced! Before taking office, the newly elected president is 3 months, during which time for the announcement of an emergency, i.e. the abolition of the transfer of power is more than enough.
    But what will they ask from NATO under the guise of an emergency? It seems to me that NATO gave its "consent" on 21.02.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX.
  42. delfinN
    delfinN April 19 2014 20: 13
    +1
    2015 year. recruits train. somehow sideways there is a Lero nurse-nurse.
    - Babo lero where do you write that? tell the address of the part!
    - write ... write immediately "captured"
  43. ty60
    ty60 April 19 2014 20: 42
    0
    the longer the agony lasts, the more small Ukraine will turn out.
  44. andrei72
    andrei72 April 19 2014 20: 59
    0
    In fact, the situation is not very good: if the "Svidomites" have enough strength to unleash a civil war, then they will curse us in the southeast of Ukraine: if we intercede too late, there will be very large casualties among the civilian population (and earlier it is impossible to intervene since we are constantly talking about the "territorial integrity" of Ukraine). If we intercede too early, the united Europe and the United States will have an excuse to respond to the request of the government of Ukraine and start bombing, instantly destroying the entire Ukrainian industry), thereby causing damage not only to Ukraine, but also to us (after all, many of our industries, in their products, use components manufactured in Ukraine). Then they can "make concessions to the Russian Federation" and NOT send their "peacekeeping contingents" (after all, the entire industry has been destroyed, we have suffered great damage, the goal has been achieved) + we will have to solve the humanitarian problems of Ukraine and feed at least 20000000 people (feeding the rest 45000000 people is a heavy burden will fall, including on Europe).
  45. santush
    santush April 19 2014 22: 07
    +2
    Juntu-won !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Southeast-glory !!!!!!!!!!!!
  46. Sergey S.
    Sergey S. April 19 2014 22: 31
    0
    Quote: mnbv199
    By the way ..... Russians are finally going to join us ... or do you still need to shed more of our blood ???

    For us, Russia no longer needs any arguments, but the method of accession has apparently not yet been fully implemented.
    V.V. Putin is also limited by certain rules, this is felt.
    The United States has military power, but is afraid to use it due to the threat of unacceptable losses, and still does not want to print (spend) money to "buy" the problem.
    Europe - has some legal structures, but has no real power to approve them, has no money.
    Ukrainian Kiev rulers - have a throne and weapons, but do not have the moral right and sufficient support of the people, and are still completely deprived of financial independence. And while trying to threaten the Southeast.
    Ukrainian Southeast - has an idea, has a problem, has the support of the people, but does not have weapons and enough money.

    And no one wants to agree on anything, whatever they say on the TV.
    Geneva is not a dead end, but it is a road leading into a deadly marshy swamp.
    Now the time has come for popular diplomacy. And it is very important that the leaders of the Southeast clarify their position, verbally attack enemies in all directions, and be able to support the population, especially the most vulnerable.
    I really hope that the funding channel of the Donetsk People’s Republic is well organized.
  47. asar
    asar April 20 2014 02: 03
    0
    Although everything in the world is so difficult, I congratulate EVERYONE - Happy Easter! Christ is Risen! Congratulations, Orthodox Christians! I have never divided the people into friends and foes! I never thought - We are good, others are bad !!! You have to be a Human yourself! Good Neighbor! I think this is the main thing, this is our "core"! Our POWER is in unity !!! love
  48. Igool
    Igool April 20 2014 04: 21
    -1
    Hero of the new Ukraine
  49. Semenov
    Semenov April 20 2014 06: 48
    0
    The Wild Field Ruin is more likely. The oligarchs and leaders are already forming their military detachments, there are no armies and militias, presidential candidates are beaten and criminal cases are opened, the West does not provide significant loans, the economy and the hryvnia are falling, the United States and the Russian Federation in Geneva invite Ukraine and the EU for an hour, for 30 minutes to meeting table. It is very similar to a division into 5-6 small "independent" parts-states.