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Ukrainian paratroopers crushed the roadblock under the Slavic

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Ukrainian paratroopers crushed the roadblock under the Slavic



In the village of Sergeevka, Slavyansk district, Donetsk region, the Ukrainian military defeated a roadblock of supporters of the country's federalization.

According to local media, citing eyewitnesses, people in military uniform appeared in the village, shooting is heard in the area of ​​the highway. It is also known that in the area of ​​the roadblock there was a fire, but its cause is currently unknown.

Eyewitnesses also reported one dead, but officially this information has not yet been confirmed, reports "Interfax".

On the eve, supporters of federalization in Slavyansk and Kramatorsk took control of local telecentres, which provide broadcasts to cities in the south-east of the country. Instead of Ukrainian TV channels, Russian ones are now on the air.

On April 14, the 25 Brigade of the airborne troops stationed under Slavyansk moved to the side of the militia. Appointed by the Verkhovna Rada. President of Ukraine Oleksandr Turchynov threatened the court with the military who refused to fight against the civilian population.

Ukrainian troops continue to concentrate around Kramatorsk and Slavyansk.
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  1. domokl
    domokl April 18 2014 11: 54
    +20
    It seems specially provoked to shoot ... They won’t understand now .. It's easier to shoot ... You need to check the info ...
    1. radar1967
      radar1967 April 18 2014 12: 00
      +88
      ATTENTION!!!!!
      WHAT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DO TO THE REPUBLICAN .... In no case should one get involved in an open fire confrontation! I repeat - IN NO CASE! People need to be protected. Each militia is worth its weight in gold. Especially the former military. There is the experience of the Belarusian partisans, tested over the years, whose tactics of action have been successfully developed by the Afghan and North Caucasian Mujahideen. Cheap but cheerful!
      1. jjj
        jjj April 18 2014 12: 03
        +69
        Small groups at night disturb the fire in the locations. Disable equipment, disrupt communications. No need to kill people
        1. vorchyn_ymka
          vorchyn_ymka April 18 2014 15: 50
          +10
          if you fight, then you will have to kill .. hosh, no hosh ... the right-wing people work together with the army, they are dressed alike, armed ... is it worth understanding? soldier or pravosek ?? as they say "took up the tug, do not say that it is not hefty" and peaceful protests will no longer be punished .. they were sent to kill and issued an indulgence .. that the junta that the European Union .. so .. that either, or ....
        2. Hippopotamus
          Hippopotamus April 18 2014 19: 41
          +4
          No need to kill people

          There are people, and there are fascists. Pravoseki and their sympathizers are not people! A good lawyer is a dead lawyer.
        3. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
          Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. April 18 2014 22: 03
          +3
          Quote: jjj
          Small groups at night disturb the fire in the locations. Disable equipment, disrupt communications. No need to kill people


          It is necessary to kill, but only specifically those who shoot the militias themselves. Otherwise, they will believe in their complete impunity and will commit atrocities even more.
      2. domokl
        domokl April 18 2014 12: 07
        +36
        You forgot about the airborne brigade ... This is a regular part that is capable of fighting ... Airborne maneuverability allows you to destroy the enemy in positions.
        Partisan war means surrender of territory ...
        1. Simple
          Simple April 18 2014 12: 16
          +6
          Quote: domokl
          Partisan war means surrender of territory ...


          This is the right of the population to protect themselves.
        2. ed65b
          ed65b April 18 2014 12: 26
          +20
          Quote: domokl
          You forgot about the airborne brigade ... This is a regular part that is capable of fighting ... Airborne maneuverability allows you to destroy the enemy in positions.
          Partisan war means surrender of territory ...

          I agree. We must pass on to the experience of the resistance of the Chechen separatists in Grozny (damn how things have changed) to burn the equipment together with the crews. Take a soldier to exchange for their leaders. It is time for the people of the southeast and the militia to understand that the troops did not come with them to drink vodka, but to kill.
          1. werewolf
            werewolf April 18 2014 12: 40
            +52
            Under no circumstances should you attack army columns (YET). It is necessary to knock out the National Guard and the right sector. (You can undermine the "Omega") and do not touch the conscripts in any case!
            1. Simple
              Simple April 18 2014 12: 54
              +10
              Quote: Werwolf
              Under no circumstances should you attack army columns (YET). It is necessary to knock out the National Guard and the right sector. (You can undermine the "Omega") and do not touch the conscripts in any case!


              After your comment, the units will be mixed.
              1. WKS
                WKS April 18 2014 17: 46
                +1
                Before that, they themselves of course will not think of it.
                1. Simple
                  Simple April 18 2014 20: 24
                  0
                  Quote: wks
                  Before that, they themselves of course will not think of it.


                  All sorts of here enough.
                  The site is open.
              2. Free Island
                Free Island April 19 2014 03: 02
                +1
                think ... Turchinov HERE? :)))) sits and reads everything? :)) although where else is he studying military science except for not on the Internet .. mountain of supreme commander of horseradish)))))
            2. DNR
              DNR April 18 2014 13: 06
              +9
              I completely agree with you. Conscripts also suffer from a lack of correct information. With the army you need to work with the WORD, as in 1917.
              1. kenig1
                kenig1 April 18 2014 15: 28
                +2
                In your version, only officers served in the White Army?
            3. Simon
              Simon April 18 2014 13: 46
              +2
              And how do you determine if they will be dressed for example, or will be in an armored personnel carrier, or in a covered car. There will still be victims.
            4. radar1967
              radar1967 April 18 2014 13: 48
              +8
              Humanity is an interesting thing ... What is more humane? Undermine 2 dozens of armored personnel carriers and prevent the invasion or feel sorry for the young guys and thereby unleash a long-term bloody civil war? and more ... In Ukraine, in fact, it’s not all men, but women who decide. / otherwise in Moscow there wouldn’t be so many priestesses of love /. If Ukrainian mothers get scared for their children, it will begin that Maidan will appear as a children's matinee- THE WAR WILL QUICKLY END!
            5. ed65b
              ed65b April 18 2014 15: 00
              +4
              Quote: Werwolf
              Under no circumstances should you attack army columns (YET). It is necessary to knock out the National Guard and the right sector. (You can undermine the "Omega") and do not touch the conscripts in any case!

              Does he have on his forehead that he is an conscript or right sector?
              1. Simple
                Simple April 18 2014 20: 29
                +2
                Quote: ed65b
                Does he have on his forehead that he is an conscript or right sector?


                Of course not.

                Dressings appear like:
                "Attention! Do not shoot! I am a conscript."
          2. MIRU-MIR66
            MIRU-MIR66 April 18 2014 13: 07
            +31
            http://nnils.livejournal.com/1728384.html
            With God, gentlemen officers! Victory will be ours!
            ATTENTION!
            According to available information - the days of the Bandera junta are numbered!
            The People's Liberation Army of the Southeast is ready for a full-scale opposition against the Bandera junta. Rebel units are also ready in other regions of Ukraine and in Kiev itself.

            Yanukovych will come to Ukraine from day to day and practically the whole army will support him. It will be supported by the majority in the Ministry of Internal Affairs and even in the SBU.
            There will be no Russian Army! Everything will be done by the citizens of Ukraine itself! And with full permission to act harshly in the framework of the counter-terrorist operation by order of the legitimate President Yanukovych.

            No "polite green men"!

            There will be ferocious Ukrainian men.
            ........
            1. predator.3
              predator.3 April 18 2014 15: 03
              +7
              Quote: MIRU-MIR66
              Yanukovych will arrive in Ukraine from day to day


              Unless someone kicks him!
            2. sokrat7
              sokrat7 April 18 2014 17: 33
              0
              Your words, yes to God in the ears.
            3. sokrat7
              sokrat7 April 18 2014 17: 34
              0
              Your words, yes to God in the ears.
            4. polite people
              polite people April 19 2014 05: 05
              0
              Fierce Ukrainian men - it sounds in Russian. soldier
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          3. ele1285
            ele1285 April 18 2014 13: 08
            +10
            Quote: ed65b
            I agree. We must pass on to the experience of resistance of the Chechen separatists in Grozny

            Eidik, I think that GDP hasn’t even reached its violin
            to play it, not everything is as bad as the media report. Very much his pravoseki annoy, he will force them.
            1. Free Island
              Free Island April 19 2014 03: 03
              0
              Yes there is no violin .. CONTRABASIS NEEDED .. along the ridge!)))
          4. Sirocco
            Sirocco April 18 2014 13: 28
            +4
            Quote: ed65b
            It is time for the people of the southeast and the militia to understand that the troops did not come with them to drink vodka, but to kill.

            I would draw attention to the fact that not the army but the national guard, which included the radicals of the Right Sector, so they legitimized them, now there is no IEE from Kiev. Now, these provocateurs from Kiev are called the rebels of the Southeast. And they wanted to spit on the Geneva Convention, in what.
          5. Gomunkul
            Gomunkul April 18 2014 14: 26
            +6
            Take a soldier to exchange for their leaders.
            The Kiev junta doesn’t give a damn about both its soldiers and the national guard, they need to have a swara, where everyone who can stop them from reigning in their president’s presence can be flown to Kiev to the noise. hi
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          7. Free Island
            Free Island April 19 2014 03: 00
            0
            Quote: ed65b
            Take a soldier to exchange for their leaders.

            I think that Yaytsenyukha Turchinov and other gopniks will be sideways to the soldiers and they will not exchange anyone for them. Now, if they are offered American cookies, then yes, they are ready to change their homeland for them. Classic - Boy Badman, who changed his homeland for a box of cookies and a barrel of jam)))
        3. Navy7981
          Navy7981 April 18 2014 12: 36
          +12
          Partisan war means surrender of territory ...
          Let me disagree. A well-organized, let alone a term, guerrilla warfare, on friendly territory, with a friendly population, can block almost any actions of the enemy, especially the enemy, who himself doesn’t really want to fight. For example, a column advanced and suddenly intense firing was heard in its rear. The columns of punishers are not so numerous and the commander, if of course there is what, really needs to think, but, what is it actually in his rear? And what can follow? You don’t even have to make contact. Or suddenly intense radio conversations on the air or the launch of a dozen s / missiles well, etc. The effect of presence will reduce the effect of pressure, something like this.
          1. Simple
            Simple April 18 2014 12: 48
            +6
            Quote: Navy7981
            For example, a column advanced and suddenly intense firing was heard in its rear.



            In the warus battle of the Germanic tribes with the Roman legions, it was so defeated
            three legions (in each legion there were 5000-6000 soldiers plus 8000 people. convoy)
            1. philip
              philip April 18 2014 13: 20
              +1
              For a long time they are not exactly stuffy to us. Love to see, al it seemed a little, it is necessary to add.
          2. Navy7981
            Navy7981 April 18 2014 13: 04
            +9
            And you can still just peg with a sign - MINES. Min do not let them look. Until they get used to the fact that there are no mines, and then it’s already mined without shell VU.
          3. Bort radist
            Bort radist April 18 2014 15: 42
            +2
            Partisan night rest day.
        4. radar1967
          radar1967 April 18 2014 12: 37
          +17
          Territory doesn’t mean anything. You won’t stop tanks and RPGs, but you’ll lose people. This is Ukraine, there is a plain and infantry there is nowhere to fight ... and the Airborne Forces against guns is not intended. It’s more like partisans in uniform .... Let the banderlogs take territory. On their own head. The deeper they swallow, the faster they choke. We have already passed this. It is necessary that the land at the banderlog under your feet burn. So that we were afraid to go to the store one by one, that we were afraid of snipers, mortars and MONOK ... as we once were in Chechnya ...
          1. Simon
            Simon April 18 2014 13: 51
            +4
            For technology, the worst thing is urban buildings, where they have no room for maneuver and you can even throw Molotov cocktails.
            1. radar1967
              radar1967 April 18 2014 18: 47
              +1
              But you don’t need bottles, please. This is not a movie or maidan. An evil uncle with a machine gun will come out and with a fright of all patriots he will shoot down tries .. Armored vehicles are not a colander, and it is extremely difficult to burn it with gasoline. Moreover, after the first attempt, weaknesses are sure to be eliminated. Where it is necessary to legislate, where it is necessary to ambush ...
        5. Naum
          Naum April 18 2014 12: 44
          +8
          There will be no change. The territory will be controlled by the Nazis during the day, and the partisans by night. Let the fascists be in constant tension, they won’t sleep for an extra hour. This will quickly affect their morale!
        6. Belarus
          Belarus April 18 2014 12: 53
          +4
          I completely agree that guerrilla warfare is surrender of the territory. Not then, people occupied the buildings to subsequently surrender them.
          1. radar1967
            radar1967 April 18 2014 13: 24
            +4
            On the contrary ... if they surrounded, then turn in the building for 200000 to Kalo-moisky. With this money, organize, feed, dress, put on shoes, arm and ... start from the beginning - to capture the next, if surrounded, then turn in the building for 200000 Kalo-Moisky. With this money people ...
        7. Simon
          Simon April 18 2014 13: 35
          +2
          And why not wage a sabotage war in small groups. At night they crashed, one group of mobile distracts, lures and disappears, and several others with grenade launchers destroy equipment and then also disappears. You can also arrange ambushes, undermining vehicles on the roads — this is a guerrilla war.
          1. Little Muck
            Little Muck April 18 2014 13: 43
            +3
            Quote: Simon
            And why not wage a sabotage war

            Do you read comments? With whom to wage war? What civil has already begun? But what about the 25th from the Dnieper, the police and others?
            Pravosekov and the paid abomination, it is necessary to catch.
            And as soon as the first APC or other equipment is blown up, the troupe will be thrown there in soldier's uniform and all will be declared terrorists.
            Do you want that?
            1. radar1967
              radar1967 April 18 2014 14: 05
              +1
              Do you read comments?
              Not only the whole Southeast has long been declared terrorists ... Already guns go to your liking ...
              Did you mean it?
              1. Little Muck
                Little Muck April 18 2014 14: 11
                0
                Quote: radar1967
                Already guns are riding your soul ...

                Whose soul is this? More specifically, please. And then something is not clear.
                1. Simple
                  Simple April 18 2014 14: 26
                  0
                  Good men go over to the personality.

                  After Geneva, Kiev did not abandon the force method.
                  The army must protect the people.
                  If two nations appeared in one country in one country, it is better not to intervene in the army.
                  Kiev does not fulfill the conditions. And who will protect the people of Donbas now?
        8. ruslan207
          ruslan207 April 18 2014 14: 06
          +1
          It depends on the airborne forces of the Ukrainian airborne forces and there is no experience and the personnel are from western Ukraine and their rival is unarmed militias
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        10. Niki
          Niki April 18 2014 14: 24
          0
          Normally, this all means. This position - with the methodology of partisan struggle - was voiced even in the very first speeches of SE. Technique to burn. Take care of people.
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      3. avg
        avg April 18 2014 12: 29
        0
        Alexander Turchinov threatened a military court who refused to fight against civilians.

        The military follows the constitution, which Turchinov rudely violates. The time will come and this stsuka will sit down if he does not run away.
      4. Naum
        Naum April 18 2014 12: 41
        +4
        Yes, no frontal confrontation. There may be ambushes and raids with subsequent departure. Destroy first of all armored vehicles, artillery and aviation. Eliminate warehouses of food, weapons, fuel and lubricants and base deployment. Need full-blown guerrilla resistance!
        1. Little Muck
          Little Muck April 18 2014 12: 58
          +9
          Interesting. How do you imagine full-blown guerrilla resistance?
          Need to start a fratricidal civil war? fool
          Is it not obvious that the army does not want to fight the people? Example 25 from Dnepropetrovsk.
          Now there are scumbags paid. That's who needs to be caught and put on a stake.
          1. Sid.74
            Sid.74 April 18 2014 13: 09
            +1
            Quote: Little Muck
            Now there are scumbags paid. That's who needs to be caught and put on a stake.

            Dear, how to catch them without a partisan militia? request

            And now, they reported that in Slavyansk, they prevented the attack, they caught law enforcement officers with 5-6 spent kilos, walkie-talkies, chiset pistols, fuses!
            1. Little Muck
              Little Muck April 18 2014 13: 30
              0
              Quote: Sid.74
              , reported that in Slavyansk

              Please note in Slavyansk. After all, he is under the control of self-defense. Or do I not know something?
              In my opinion, the territory is being cleansed and controlled. Or how?
              The same thing must be done in other places. Create mobile groups and with the support of the population and the police clean up their land. What to hide at home? Is Southeast already captured?
              1. Sid.74
                Sid.74 April 18 2014 13: 49
                +1
                Quote: Little Muck
                Please note in Slavyansk. After all, he is under the control of self-defense. Or do I not know something?
                In my opinion, the territory is being cleansed and controlled. Or how?
                The same thing must be done in other places. Create mobile groups and with the support of the population and the police clean up their land. What to hide at home? Is Southeast already captured?


                So I do not dispute your words, I think no one in Ukraine wants a war!
                Mobile groups are good for short-lived combat and against Maidan attacks!
                So the question is, how to dismantle the junta and the oligarchs without large-scale militias in the country, and not in individual cities? What will it be called a people's squad, popular militia, partisans, it does not matter! The main thing should come from the people and on a different scale! the whole country! Everywhere should be organized militia against the junta!
                1. Little Muck
                  Little Muck April 18 2014 14: 06
                  +1
                  Quote: Sid.74
                  What it will be called a people's squad, a people's militia, partisans, does not matter!

                  Yes, my friend.
                  Partisans, this is one thing. But the national team, along with the police, is different.
                  Cleaning the dirt from the territory is open, that's right.
                  Partisan attacks mean admit defeat and try to resist.
                  Quote: Sid.74
                  Mobile groups are good for short-lived combat and against Maidan attacks!

                  So, is the army still not fighting the people?
                  So it is necessary to hollow maydaunov. One, two, more, but constantly and throughout the Southeast.
                  Then this homosexual will run home to hide.
                  1. Sid.74
                    Sid.74 April 18 2014 14: 20
                    +2
                    Quote: Little Muck
                    Cleaning the dirt from the territory is open, that's right.
                    Partisan attacks mean admit defeat and try to resist.

                    And how to grind the nests of the pro-mosquito without partisan sorties?
                    In general, it seems to me that we are talking about the same thing! You just give the partisans the word some special meaning!
                    Quote: Little Muck
                    So it is necessary to hollow maydaunov. One, two, more, but constantly and throughout the Southeast.

                    So you echo me, I just want to note that they will constantly attack if they are given a breath in a safe place! The counterattack on Kiev will be in any way! hi
                    1. Little Muck
                      Little Muck April 18 2014 14: 34
                      +2
                      Understand. Each word carries a semantic load.
                      In your opinion, it is not important which word to use "separatist" or "member of self-defense".
                      Just playing with words and concepts embedded in them, the junta plays, calling some "separatists" and others "fighters for a united Ukraine", and trumpets about it all over the world.
                      Everything should be called as it should be called. And not otherwise.
                      1. Sid.74
                        Sid.74 April 18 2014 14: 44
                        0
                        Quote: Little Muck
                        Understand. Each word carries a semantic load.
                        In your opinion, it is not important which word to use "separatist" or "member of self-defense".
                        Just playing with words and concepts embedded in them, the junta plays, calling some "separatists" and others "fighters for a united Ukraine", and trumpets about it all over the world.
                        Everything should be called as it should be called. And not otherwise.

                        Good, good friend! hi I understand you, Vitaly! Then call the militia, peacekeepers! wink
                        Peacekeepers of Donbass! I like it! yes
                      2. Little Muck
                        Little Muck April 18 2014 14: 48
                        +1
                        Agreed hi
                  2. Simple
                    Simple April 18 2014 14: 43
                    +6
                    ...............
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                    2. siberalt
                      siberalt April 18 2014 16: 23
                      +2
                      Something like this. Here you have to sow something. The state is over. And these "sutski" Kiev fly and interfere with life laughing

                      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/678/uxts790.jpg
            2. Partisan Kramaha
              Partisan Kramaha April 18 2014 21: 20
              +1
              Sergeevka horseradish knows where from Slavyansk. It is about 15 kilometers from Kramatorsk. So it turned out that many settlements in the Slavyansk region are closer to Kramatorsk, and it does not have a city of regional subordination. Our boys were from Kramakha on the block. Last night the whole mountain I stood on Conder’s ears, they waited, but the troops didn’t go looking at night, and today it’s pretty quiet, only at the end of the shift the guy in the brigade got a call from friends from the block under the airfield, some black-assed landed there (either mercenaries or someone xs)
        2. philip
          philip April 18 2014 13: 27
          0
          What right you are cruel right to the count. 100000 lashes will survive re-education, will be a man.
        3. Naum
          Naum April 18 2014 14: 39
          +1
          The civil war, in fact, has already begun and it can be stopped by the consolidated resistance of the civil society of the Southeast. The first is a general strike. The second is active physical resistance to killers. There, from where the bullet flew, a grenade should fly! But not before. For an eye - a head. For the tooth - the jaw. This is so, figuratively.
        4. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
          Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. April 18 2014 22: 14
          +1
          In the Ukrainian army, not all are white and fluffy. Not pravoseki manage military aircraft, tanks and other armored vehicles. This is all the army, and often officers. Who brought the National Guard to the airfield, where they took hostages? Do you think that this can be left unanswered? The civil war is already underway and there is no need to lament about this now. And if specific helicopters were burned at the airport, the banderlogs would not have been able to take hostages. All thoughts would only be about how to take your ass.
    2. 77bob1973
      77bob1973 April 18 2014 14: 36
      +1
      That's right, as soon as the partisans begin to dig trenches, they lose!
    3. alone
      alone April 18 2014 17: 58
      0
      Quote: radar1967
      North Caucasian Mujahideen.

      You will call the Wahhabi terrorists of the North Caucasus Mujahideen. Calling them Mujahideen, you openly support what they are doing. Apparently ambition has completely overshadowed your brain. negative
  2. Hammer
    Hammer April 18 2014 12: 07
    +8
    Well, Avakov urgently needed at least a tiny, but victory over the not submissive southeast ... The Kiev junta probably already equated the capture of this barricade with the Americans, well, or Iwajima ...
    1. ZU-23
      ZU-23 April 18 2014 12: 18
      +3
      Quote: Hammer
      Well, Avakov urgently needed at least a tiny, but victory over the not submissive southeast

      This is so for the report to Bandera in Kiev, otherwise they are now there themselves hostage.
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 April 18 2014 12: 29
        +25
        CyberBerkut strikes a new cyber blow!


        Patriotic group of Ukraine "CyberBerkut"

        We, CyberBerkut, appeal to the people of Ukraine! Today, in our country, the fascist government is pushing the army to unleash a civil war, and corrupt oligarchs use the money stolen from the people to fool and incite hysteria and mutual hatred in the country. Such actions threaten the national security and integrity of Ukraine as a state and will inevitably lead to mass bloodshed. We, CyberBerkut, consider it our duty to stop the flow of cynical lies and misinformation on the Internet, using which the traitors of our country are ready to drown it in the blood of civilians.
        We, CyberBerkut, declare a cyber war for the Kiev junta! Yesterday, we carried out a massive attack on Internet resources controlled by the self-proclaimed authorities, and disconnected the DNS servers of the UA registrar, as a result of which the operation of the largest DATA center in Kiev was completely blocked.
        If the junta does not stop giving criminal orders, then we will continue to turn off domain zones in the country until it experiences virtual death, and the Internet map of Ukraine does not turn into a blank spot from lies.


        CyberBerkut attacks the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine

        The Kiev junta continues to commit unlawful inhuman acts against the Ukrainian people. The decision to conduct the so-called anti-terrorist operation in the eastern regions of the country was made at a meeting of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine by the Maidan bandits Turchinov, Nalyvaychenko, Avakov and Parubiy. It was the NSDC that initiated the reprisals against Ukrainians in the way familiar to the Maidan - the destruction of those who disagree with the policy pursued by the "new government".
        Today we, CyberBerkut, once again block the work of the NSDC resource http://rnbo.gov.ua/ and warn the bastard Parubiya and his accomplices that more stringent measures will follow from our side!
        Residents of Donetsk, Lugansk and Kharkov regions, we are with you! Victory will be ours!

        We are a CyberBerkut! We will not forget! We will not forgive!
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith April 18 2014 14: 24
          +2
          I think you need to enter cards. As near Stalingrad there were cards with German generals instead of suits. These decks were scattered over surrounded by German troops.
          1. Sid.74
            Sid.74 April 18 2014 14: 31
            +1
            Quote: Sith Lord
            I think you need to enter cards. As near Stalingrad there were cards with German generals instead of suits. These decks were scattered over surrounded by German troops.

            A very noble idea! hi How would this convey to the opponents of the junta? request
            1. I read the news
              I read the news April 18 2014 15: 31
              +1
              Write right here.
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    3. Ased
      Ased April 18 2014 12: 22
      +1
      There is really not enough cards with the printed positions for a full understanding of what is happening. Who knows where the 25th Airborne Brigade is now?
      1. I read the news
        I read the news April 18 2014 12: 27
        +7
        Their command knows
        1. Ased
          Ased April 18 2014 12: 32
          +1
          Quote: I readNews
          Their command knows


          hmm .. a competent answer. +

          PS something I'm getting excited.
          1. philip
            philip April 18 2014 13: 32
            0
            PS something I'm getting excited.

            You are not alone.
      2. Niki
        Niki April 18 2014 14: 35
        0
        Turchinov announced that this brigade has been disbanded.
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    4. IOwTZ
      IOwTZ April 18 2014 13: 18
      +1
      Quote: Hammer
      Well, Avakov urgently needed a tiny victory, but


      The blogger Avakov never had and never will have victories. And any grandmother at any entrance will say that his days are numbered.
    5. 97110
      97110 April 18 2014 15: 18
      0
      On the scale of the second world Guadal - the channel will be smaller. 13 thousand Japanese in 2 months through the USA’s erotic efforts.
    6. 78bor1973
      78bor1973 April 18 2014 17: 23
      0
      No, it looks like it smells of Ishmael!
  3. Mite27
    Mite27 April 18 2014 20: 25
    0
    Everyone thinks he is a strategist seeing the fight from the side.
  • GDP
    GDP April 18 2014 11: 55
    +14
    And this is against the backdrop of negotiations with Russia and the United States on a peaceful solution to the conflict in the South-East of Ukraine ...
    1. domokl
      domokl April 18 2014 11: 57
      +5
      Negotiations are needed by everyone except the Ukrainian people in order to survive in the current state before the elections ... So ... There was nothing special there except for the PPR (we sat, had a drink ... talked and broke up) ...
    2. kia64
      kia64 April 18 2014 11: 59
      +13
      There were negotiations and treaties with Hitler too, but this did not stop him from starting a war with us. The same agreements with pind.osiya and podpin.dosnikami for us agreements and they need to live up to the elections and legalize.
      1. Sandov
        Sandov April 18 2014 12: 07
        +5
        Quote: kia64
        There were negotiations and treaties with Hitler too, but this did not stop him from starting a war with us. The same agreements with pind.osiya and podpin.dosnikami for us agreements and they need to live up to the elections and legalize.

        P AND N D S S will do everything so that the Slavs begin to wet each other. Fascists need to be soaked in the bud. Anyway. Only federalization, only it can save Ukraine.
        1. domokl
          domokl April 18 2014 12: 12
          +1
          Quote: Sandov
          P AND N D S S will do everything so that the Slavs begin to wet each other.

          That's right ... In this case, the UN will be obliged to introduce peacekeepers .. And it is clear who and where will go ... What is required ... Ukraine as a single state will cease to exist ... T.N. German version ...
    3. philip
      philip April 18 2014 13: 37
      0
      It seems to me that it's not so simple. These negotiations are essentially carte blanche to protect the interests of RUSSIA and this is Sorry, the war, and not just anywhere, but in RUSSIA.
    4. zanoza
      zanoza April 18 2014 14: 04
      +2
      Quote: GDP
      And this is against the backdrop of negotiations with Russia and the United States on a peaceful solution to the conflict in the South-East of Ukraine ...

      I do not know request But judging by Obama's comments on the outcome of the negotiations, it looks like Russia, once again and against signature, was brought up with demands to end any support for protests in Southeast Ukraine. Ukraine is once again on the sidelines, it is "innocent", it is defending itself from "Russian aggression".
      The situation is similar to a glass of water: for some, the glass is half empty, and for someone half full. The United States approves the actions of the Ukrainian authorities and supports their punitive actions, blaming Russia all along the way, but we say that the Kiev authorities should negotiate with the Southeast and blame the USA and the EU for the chaos and lawlessness created in Ukraine.
      I.e.we see again different interpretations of the agreements signed in Geneva. Who should I disarm? Natsik and Banderlog are framed as the National Guard, i.e. their armed forces are now legalized. Donbass militias are now illegal armed groups, according to the West and Kiev what
  • Horly
    Horly April 18 2014 11: 55
    +20
    It looks like yesterday's negotiations with Lavrov were the go-ahead to action for the Kiev pseudo-rulers. What and with whom to negotiate, if everyone has decided long ago. For example, I found this: "Kiev’s actions to restrict the entry of Russians into Ukraine do not contradict the principles of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE). This, according to NTV, the organization said"So the whole point of these agreements is zero without a stick, no one is going to observe them, except for us!
    1. hawk
      hawk April 18 2014 13: 02
      +1
      The guest workers from Little Russia are in a company-by-company, platoon-by-foot approach to Kiev !!!
      In the course of movement through the Donetsk Republic, arm and flag in their hands !!!
  • Deniska
    Deniska April 18 2014 11: 56
    +5
    Nominated by the Verkhovna Rada President of Ukraine Oleksandr Turchynov threatened a military court who refused to fight against civilians.


    ETOGES 3.14 ...
    1. Sandov
      Sandov April 18 2014 13: 51
      0
      Quote: Deniska
      Nominated by the Verkhovna Rada President of Ukraine Oleksandr Turchynov threatened a military court who refused to fight against civilians.


      ETOGES 3.14 ...

      Criminals, I hope the tribunal in Rostov will wait for these people.
  • Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU April 18 2014 11: 56
    +26
    Ukrainian paratroopers crushed the roadblock under the Slavic


    Here are the "heroes", does it take a lot of cleverness to smash the people's checkpoint out of tires?

    On April 14, the 25 Brigade of the airborne troops stationed under Slavyansk moved to the side of the militia.


    Stop giving people false hope. Not passed, and gave up arms and went to the Dnieper.
  • made13
    made13 April 18 2014 11: 56
    +25
    You shoot at your own - you turn from a soldier into a punisher!
    1. DEfindER
      DEfindER April 18 2014 12: 44
      +2
      Quote: made13
      You shoot at your own - you turn from a soldier into a punisher!

      What is true is true. How can you make a normal person, not a killer, not a maniac, shoot ordinary people ??? It seems to me that for such purposes the junta needs special punitive detachments from people who have already killed before, or from zombies .. What can a person come to a foreign village or city feel to kill people there ???
      I saw a video where Bandera executed prisoners of war during the Maidan in the basement, just like the Wahhabis in Chechnya, beheading. Not to look nervous:
      http://runo-lj.livejournal.com/840389.html
      1. Stanislas
        Stanislas April 18 2014 15: 40
        0
        Quote: DEfindER
        Not to look nervous:
        http://runo-lj.livejournal.com/840389.html
        This video has been removed from public access.
        1. DEfindER
          DEfindER April 18 2014 17: 01
          0
          Quote: Stanislav
          This video has been removed from public access.

          there is still ..
          http://yadi.sk/d/1STHHPXhMivi5
  • mamont5
    mamont5 April 18 2014 11: 57
    +27
    That’s the scribe ... to all the Geneva agreements.

    By the way, returning to the topic 20 of missing Americans from PMCs -
    "A source in the Russian Security Council stated that about 20 American citizens, presumably employees of the private military company Blackwater, disappeared near Donetsk ...
    And in addition, because I very much asked, they explained that: (a) indeed, "these two dozen people in the uniform of the Ukrainian militia were sufficiently well armed and prepared, physically and mentally, to smash the crowd that surrounded them to shreds", but stopped them not so much "cameras and iron discipline", how many very benevolent appearance "of fifty people armed with Kalashnikov assault rifles, in camouflage without insignia and in civilian clothes"; (b) and where these "two dozen" are now, no one knows, because when trying to interrogate them, it turned out that the voluntary translator (English ticker from the local secretary of the school) could not make out the viscous, nasty speech of the prisoners. So, I had to call another city, from where, after a few hours, people flew in and took the citizens of the United States to the place where the specialists could find everything. "

    And where are these mercenaries now? Where do they testify?
    1. Horly
      Horly April 18 2014 12: 03
      +8
      "Was there a boy?"Don't you think there is too much talk about mercenaries!
      1. alone
        alone April 18 2014 18: 08
        0
        Quote: Horly
        "Was there a boy?" Don't you think there is too much talk about mercenaries!

        Greetings to Alexander, most people don’t even want to move their brains. Suppose that I or someone else directs the actions of forces that are against the government. The authorities use the services of foreign mercenaries. And about 20 people fall into my hands. What do you think, what will I or a perfectly sane commander do in this situation?
        That's right. He’ll collect an armada of journalists and show them to them. Firstly, this is strong evidence, secondly it is an influx of supporters, and thirdly, it’s a blow to the government more than the defeat of any army brigade. Such news is the end for the authorities.
        Now there is an influx of rumors and misinformation from Ukraine in droves. And many simply believe in it.
    2. Stiletto
      Stiletto April 18 2014 12: 25
      +3
      Quote: mamont5
      And where are these mercenaries now? Where do they testify?


      It’s possible that they went over to the side of the self-defense forces laughing
      1. radar1967
        radar1967 April 18 2014 12: 51
        +1
        Thank you!laughing laughing
  • Stalevar
    Stalevar April 18 2014 11: 57
    +3
    Well, the fact that Turchinov’s days are numbered is understandable. If the army, which is forced to shoot at its people, does not dare to turn the tanks to Kiev and drop the junta, then Turchinov will be hanged by the Maydan, as if he had not justified his confidence. He has no chance and he perfectly understands this.
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat April 18 2014 11: 58
    +7
    Apparently, the hohlohunta lives somewhere in his imaginary world, not intersecting with reality. He does not face trial, but it’s time to sit in court
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  • 51064
    51064 April 18 2014 11: 58
    +1
    The incident was most likely. Vesti reported that they arrived at night in helicopters (?!), Mixed up the guards from the rebels, wounded him, and took control of the village.

    - violate yesterday’s agreement on the non-use of force.
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    1. nikcris
      nikcris April 18 2014 12: 09
      +1
      100% staging. Turn on any channel - it’s more probable in all of the cinema.
  • MuadDib
    MuadDib April 18 2014 11: 59
    +5
    The actions of the military contradict the agreements reached as a result of the Geneva meeting. Apparently, the Kiev authorities continue to play a double game.
    1. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer April 18 2014 12: 14
      +5
      For a double game, brains are needed. And here it’s clearly brown instead of gray matter in the head. Some reflexes.
    2. andj61
      andj61 April 18 2014 12: 23
      +1
      The actions of the military (or national guard) are on different planes with diplomatic efforts. Lavrov's press conference on the results of the negotiations was after 21-00 in Moscow. He agreed with Kerry, and not with the representative of the junta, he refused to speak with him .. The Amers simply did not have time to thoughtfully convey their position after negotiations. Plus night, first with us, then with them. Further, the gap to bring to the performers. Therefore, the reaction should be expected no earlier than 13-14 hours in Washington. And there it will already be clear what to do next.
  • 51064
    51064 April 18 2014 11: 59
    0
    Ukrosmi:

    Concern РРТ together with SBU released the captured radio transmitting center in Kramatorsk.
    The Radio Broadcasting, Radio Communication and Television Concern (KRRT), together with SBU employees, released the radio-transmitting center captured by armed men in Kramatorsk and turned off the broadcasting of Russian channels.

    - violate yesterday’s agreement on the non-use of force.
    1. Vitaly11
      Vitaly11 April 18 2014 12: 36
      +1
      Something I have never heard of someone taking over the radio transmission center in Kramatorsk. rather, the same crap as the fact that the "separatists" seized the Kramatorsk airfield, where in fact no one captured it, but two entrances to the airfield were blocked, but you can enter or leave it from any point ... although today I heard that the perimeter of the airfield was "mined" ...
  • Chifka
    Chifka April 18 2014 12: 00
    +12
    So for what so many years have been taught and trained by heroic Ukrainian paratroopers! Heroic war with civilian unarmed people and storm tires. Heroes, one word .... Well at least disgrace the name of the Ukrainian landing force, and not the Russian one. Margelov would have them just pootryv eggs and made them gobbled up. And now it's not too late ...
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU April 18 2014 12: 05
      +2
      Quote: Chifka
      So for what so many years have been taught and trained by heroic Ukrainian paratroopers! Heroic war with civilian unarmed people and storm tires. Heroes, one word .... Well at least disgrace the name of the Ukrainian landing force, and not the Russian one. Margelov would have them just pootryv eggs and made them gobbled up. And now it's not too late ...


      So they go with Margelovsky flags. sad
      1. hawk
        hawk April 18 2014 13: 10
        0
        At the block posts to organize mobile fountains for their bathing ...
  • Vita_vko
    Vita_vko April 18 2014 12: 00
    +10
    People of the South-East should feel real support and a clear organization, for this it is enough to connect the legitimate head of the SBU Yakimenko, if Yanukovych himself is afraid of responsibility. In addition, Yakimenko is perhaps the only sane and decisive person who can restore order not only in the Southeast, but also in Ukraine. It would be nice if he could lead the whole Southeast and run for president of Ukraine.
    1. Horly
      Horly April 18 2014 12: 05
      +6
      Let me ask - where are both Yanukovych and Yakimenko now? That's right - in Russia! WHAT HELLO ???
    2. tolancop
      tolancop April 18 2014 12: 33
      +4
      Well, what did this legitimate head of the SBU Yakimenko do? Do not enlighten? He "sat" both his position and Ukraine. BUT now from the screens of the RUSSIAN TV broadcasts that "I knew about this and about that ...". If such a cool professional, then no fucking shit in Russia - blow into the Donbass and organize resistance. He does not go, he knows that they will surely chase away this yap with pissing rags ...
      1. Vita_vko
        Vita_vko April 18 2014 13: 03
        +3
        Quote: tolancop
        blow to Donbass and organize resistance. He’s not traveling, he knows that they’ll probably drive this yap away with pissed rags

        Just speaking on Russian TV, he is trying to rehabilitate himself so that people in the Southeast believe him. Otherwise, you are right .. they will drive him away. In addition, it was Yakimenko who announced the anti-terrorist operation against maydauns and law enforcement officers, and if Yanukovych had not turned on the back and betrayed his security forces, there would have been no coup, and this is a serious guarantee.
        Moreover, I am sure there are "sent Cossacks" in the resistance environment who do not allow the South-East to unite and pour information into the West for $. With these, too, you need to fight and identify. Therefore, we need a normal military organization of both the armed units of the Donbas people's militia and the unarmed population, we need a system of combat and logistical support, we need a plan. All this can be done and organized only on the territory of Russia, where no extra ears are guaranteed.
      2. radar1967
        radar1967 April 18 2014 13: 58
        +1
        We don’t know much. SBU are not soldiers. If not for his actions, or rather inaction, then we would not see the Crimea ...
        1. Old Cynic
          Old Cynic April 18 2014 15: 15
          +3
          So sho vi say?
          SBU are not soldiers. If not for his actions, or rather inaction, then we would not see the Crimea ...


          Kolechno, the SBU are not soldiers, they are, apparently, an exit group of the Mariinsky Theater. They do not have their own special forces, machinery and special equipment, right?
  • Horly
    Horly April 18 2014 12: 01
    +15
    I am getting more and more the impression that until ours moves from conversations to business (even if there is even hidden, but tangible help), there will be no sense. Only a shot can stop an animal that has tasted blood!
    1. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer April 18 2014 12: 11
      +5
      I agree. In addition, this beast needs to report to its American owners for every dollar. In a month or two, it will be necessary to get out of the country somewhere, if they are still alive, that’s the gears with tripled energy.
    2. Sandov
      Sandov April 18 2014 12: 22
      +2
      Quote: Horly
      I am getting more and more the impression that until ours moves from conversations to business (even if there is even hidden, but tangible help), there will be no sense. Only a shot can stop an animal that has tasted blood!

      Hope dies last. Rusichi do not believe the junta. She is led from America.
  • Gagarin
    Gagarin April 18 2014 12: 02
    +3
    Systematic provocations are going on, at the moment for the junta it is the best weapon.
  • Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 April 18 2014 12: 03
    +16
    Well, banderlogs don’t want to go to pacify the rebellious Donbass ...

    and in the Supreme Zrada, another show, about, I’m waiting to take pennies, since the pan-ataman has no gold reserves:
    1. radar1967
      radar1967 April 18 2014 12: 57
      +4
      I finally understood why, after all revolutions, governments always start external wars. What to do with these morons ???? That is the reason for the victories of Napoleon.
  • avt
    avt April 18 2014 12: 04
    +8
    I went to the Ukrzensor, no - they said that the Nazi guard carried out a successful operation at the “separatists” checkpoint near Kramatorsk on the armored personnel carrier 4, after which they returned to the base, towing the equipment. laughing
    1. Simple
      Simple April 18 2014 12: 38
      +4
      Quote: avt
      near Kramatorsk on armored personnel carrier 4, the Nazi guard carried out a successful operation at the "separatist" checkpoint, after which the unit returned to the base, towing the equipment


      Car tires were taken as trophies. winked
      1. hawk
        hawk April 18 2014 13: 14
        +1
        The main symbol of events in Little Russia - tires, must necessarily go to the "state" awards of the self-proclaimed "power" for their "heroes"
    2. Vitaly11
      Vitaly11 April 18 2014 13: 56
      +5
      but where exactly near Kramatorsk is not written there? and here's an approximate course of events ..
      Yesterday, that is, on April 17, I go to work, 6 o'clock in the morning, I work for the old part of the city, there are 3 block posts next to one in the village of Ivanovka, the second on Pchelkino, the third in a different direction. In the evening at about 19:00 I look, and next to me, literally 150 meters from the place of work, tires are burning, followed by "bang!", "Fuck!" .. the sounds of sirens .. after half an hour I got free to see what was happening there ; there is no one at two checkpoints, the shiftman calls and asks what is happening there (i.e. nowhere else at this time in the city and its suburbs ...) I go today (April 18) from work 6 in the morning , I see how there were block posts with "separatists" at the entrance to the village of Ivanovka, Pchelkino, and they are still standing ... so who defeated whom, who had a successful operation - it's not clear winked
      1. avt
        avt April 18 2014 14: 49
        +1
        Quote: Vitaliy11
        but where exactly near Kramatorsk is not written there?

        request laughing That is what is not, that is not! They did not even write what equipment they towed, I think after the "battle" they dragged their stalled, well, what would the "separatists" not get.
        Quote: hawk
        The main symbol of events in Little Russia - tires, must necessarily go to the "state" awards of the self-proclaimed "power" for their "heroes"

        good Sure! There will be an oil painting - the hero maydaun was awarded the Order of the Burning Tire of the third degree. laughing
  • Jimbim
    Jimbim April 18 2014 12: 04
    +6
    "Defeated" !!! How loud it is! With unarmed only and can "fight" the lack of power of idiots ???
    1. Bort radist
      Bort radist April 18 2014 15: 58
      0
      Quote: JimBim
      Crushed

      This means - swept fire barricade of tires.
  • KOOSA
    KOOSA April 18 2014 12: 04
    -1
    Guys explain to me. If the Crimean economy became Russian, then the GDP should grow. And they show that there will be zero growth.
    1. Aleksandr12
      Aleksandr12 April 18 2014 13: 00
      0
      Our chief accountant works out his 30 pieces of silver. Like, to no longer hold "referendums".
      Stalin's quote is not entirely appropriate: "It doesn't matter how they vote, it's important how they think ..." If you paraphrase it a little, you get something in the form of this: "It does not matter that the factories and all enterprises are working and loaded with orders, it is important that the president will have a financial report with big minuses on his table." Something like this.
  • MolGro
    MolGro April 18 2014 12: 04
    +7

    hold on !! the main thing is to win, and there it will be easier !!!
  • Aleksandr12
    Aleksandr12 April 18 2014 12: 07
    +5
    Weekend is coming soon. A new wave of protests and gonialovo law-makers along the streets of cities in the southeast. When will the people defend their interests and expel all the bastard from their land? And then all the active actions they have only on weekends, and the rest of the time they sit in dead defense.
    1. Sandov
      Sandov April 18 2014 12: 30
      +1
      Quote: Aleksandr12
      Weekend is coming soon. A new wave of protests and gonialovo law-makers along the streets of cities in the southeast. When will the people defend their interests and expel all the bastard from their land? And then all the active actions they have only on weekends, and the rest of the time they sit in dead defense.

      The best defense is an attack. Drive banderlogs from the South East like mad dogs.
    2. Not angry
      Not angry April 18 2014 12: 48
      +4
      Quote: Aleksandr12
      Weekend is coming soon. A new wave of protests and gonialovo law-makers along the streets of cities in the southeast. When will the people defend their interests and expel all the bastard from their land? And then all the active actions they have only on weekends, and the rest of the time they sit in dead defense.


      children also need to be fed. they then proclaimed themselves a republic, but there is no leadership; they don’t know what to do next. and with the army and police misunderstandings. dug in the center and the parcels go where they want and crap.
  • ururu
    ururu April 18 2014 12: 09
    0
    as you want to believe http://dikoepole.net/archives/9189
    1. Not angry
      Not angry April 18 2014 13: 04
      0
      Quote: ururu
      as you want to believe http://dikoepole.net/archives/9189



      It is written beautifully. I want to believe. But I do not see the prerequisites. But probably they should not be visible until they begin to act. History will judge a look.
  • Orc-xnumx
    Orc-xnumx April 18 2014 12: 11
    +3
    That is, Kiev immediately violated the Geneva Agreement, signed the day before! Judge the killers!
    1. Horly
      Horly April 18 2014 12: 15
      0
      Did you doubt it? And who was to be judged - were they violated by those who signed these agreements? Beat yourself? As tovarisch Sukhov used to say: "Eit’s unlikely ..."
  • silver169
    silver169 April 18 2014 12: 11
    +1
    Here are the Bandera bastards that get up! And this is after only the signed agreements in Geneva.
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  • Horly
    Horly April 18 2014 12: 14
    +1
    And here are some more messages from Reedus:
    "Despite the agreements reached, the Ukrainian government is not going to withdraw troops from the south-east of the country. "
    " Dnepropetrovsk leader of the "Right Sector" Dmitry Yarosh arrived in the building of the local regional state administration, where he talked with the governor Igor Kolomoysky"
    So - what arrangements, what a bright Easter holiday ...
    I won’t be surprised if the full-scale massacre at Easter begins - these Zhidomassons have nothing sacred!
  • Vyacheslav 64
    Vyacheslav 64 April 18 2014 12: 14
    +17
    Hang on guys, victory is the daughter of the strong and brave!
  • alikalik
    alikalik April 18 2014 12: 15
    +4
    the contract has already been signed once in Kiev. So what? Only the Russian bayonet in this matter is an assistant and a guarantor.
    1. Docent1984
      Docent1984 April 18 2014 14: 11
      0
      And politeness)
  • Vita_vko
    Vita_vko April 18 2014 12: 15
    +8
    Yes, all these Geneva accords for the Kiev authorities are like toilet paper. It is enough to recall the agreement of February 21 and hundreds of other laws and decrees which, like shit ... can spread throughout Ukraine. No one will ever negotiate with the weak and defenseless! This is the law of the existing world order. To make Kiev sit at the negotiating table, the South-East should better organize itself and begin real offensive operations to clean up its region. The second week of the siege has begun; attacks cannot be infinitely reflected in conditions of limited resources. It is imperative to deploy a response information-psychological operation, especially among the Ukrainian army and police. Then you can avoid unnecessary losses. Moreover, this can be done by any resident of the Southeast, the main thing is to organize and direct.
    1. Alekseev
      Alekseev April 18 2014 12: 30
      +2
      Quote: Vita_vko
      No one will ever negotiate with the weak and defenseless!

      That's right!
      But at the moment, only armed partisans will not decide the matter.
      There is a need for tens of thousands of people to enter the streets of the cities of Donbass and, in general, the Southeast.
      And then In Donesk some rally for united Ukraine is being held ...
      After all...
    2. Aleksandr65
      Aleksandr65 April 18 2014 13: 12
      +1
      Judging by your comment, you clearly know how to organize real offensives and inf-psycho-wars. So help PRACTICE brothers! Or don’t give advice ...
      1. Vita_vko
        Vita_vko April 18 2014 16: 54
        +2
        Quote: Aleksandr65
        So help PRACTICE brothers! Or don’t give advice ...

        Do not tell me what to do and I won’t tell you where to go.
        Each has its own war and its own front.
  • Giant thought
    Giant thought April 18 2014 12: 17
    +5
    The junta does not even think of ending a crazy war with its people. And the meeting in Geneva is a tactical move by mattresses and the junta. Everything went on and will go on unchanged. Junta death penalty!
  • KOSMOS
    KOSMOS April 18 2014 12: 24
    0
    Attempt at writing. They begin with small settlements where there is less resistance, so there are not many troops!
  • dimdimich71
    dimdimich71 April 18 2014 12: 24
    0
    A bee has a sting in zh.o.p.
    1. Old Cynic
      Old Cynic April 18 2014 15: 17
      0
      Only not Dmitry Anatolyevich, it will make things worse.
  • sergio6769
    sergio6769 April 18 2014 12: 25
    +1
    And meanwhile .... In the Sumy region they dig a ditch for the entire length of the border with Russia .... MARASM CREATES !!!
  • kostofan
    kostofan April 18 2014 12: 29
    +2
    Yes, when already disperse these Bander .... ??????
    1. Simon
      Simon April 18 2014 13: 57
      0
      When all the people of Ukraine will take up arms and rebel against the banderlogs and puppet government.
      1. I read the news
        I read the news April 18 2014 14: 06
        0
        There is such a thing, that people who can rebel against the banderlogs and the puppet government do not have weapons. And nobody will give it to them. That is, to come to military depots and police stations and take it - it will not work, they will shoot everyone.
        1. coserg 2012
          coserg 2012 April 18 2014 15: 46
          0
          So what’s the conclusion? And the police and army units behind (in your words) banderlogs and a puppet government. From this it follows that they have to start. Do they go home from service? So pick them up at your wife’s side. And then by their order and warehouses and gates will open like good morning. Yes, what I explain to you arithmetic ...
  • Kornilovets
    Kornilovets April 18 2014 12: 29
    +3
    Again the thugs stirred, but where are the actions of the Donbass republic?
    1. Old Cynic
      Old Cynic April 18 2014 15: 20
      0
      And they, apparently, will not follow, judging by the information that I have from my mother and from my classmates from Donetsk. In words - all the eagles, but how it comes down to - "why, why" !!!

      Apparently, God forgive me, all the same, blood must be shed so that they really stand up for themselves, for relatives, for their lives ...
  • individual
    individual April 18 2014 12: 32
    +4
    What kind of paratroopers are those who smash peaceful fathers, mothers, brothers and sisters?
    It is not otherwise punitive, invaders from a foreign country.
    Partisans must say their word!
    1. I am proud of Russia
      I am proud of Russia April 18 2014 14: 30
      0
      individ (1) SU Today, 12:32
      What kind of paratroopers are those who smash peaceful fathers, mothers, brothers and sisters?
      It is not otherwise punitive, invaders from a foreign country.
      Partisans must say their word!

      The fact of the matter is that there half of the people go to work, go quietly around the city, and someone stands on the barricades for them ... what is this job to go now? It is necessary to protect your land. The situation must be normalized, the Nazis, provocateurs calculated to ignore and everything will be restored.
  • mig31
    mig31 April 18 2014 12: 40
    +1
    A vacuum of information, generates rumors ... give nature ...
  • shower
    shower April 18 2014 12: 50
    0
    Something I do not understand the outcome of the four-way meeting. Did we lose all the positions without a fight, or did the horse go a tricky move?
    1. I read the news
      I read the news April 18 2014 12: 50
      +1
      And is responsibility for non-compliance with the agreements provided?
      1. Belarus
        Belarus April 18 2014 13: 13
        +1
        Well, they ridiculed, although all this is sad. And you yourself know how to disrupt the contract and how you punished and whom you also know. Yes the junta lay with the device on all these arrangements,I just don’t understand why these agreements are necessary if they are not fulfilled. Maybe they want to twist the hands of Russia and those who rebelled.In order to then blame them for breaking the signed or something else.
      2. hawk
        hawk April 18 2014 13: 16
        0
        Yes, administrative and criminal ... This is CONDOM, which will certainly break, and then - we are not to blame ...
    2. Belarus
      Belarus April 18 2014 13: 08
      +1
      So I wonder why this American secretary would say: ... we have achieved more than expected. But we don’t intend to stop
  • mackonya
    mackonya April 18 2014 13: 00
    0
    Such data require confirmation in other sources. I am most concerned about PMCs, they can easily play the role of provocateurs.
  • maestro123
    maestro123 April 18 2014 13: 00
    +1
    In the village of Sergeevka, Slavic district of Donetsk region, the Ukrainian military defeated the checkpoint of supporters of federalization of the country. Eyewitnesses report one dead however, this information has not yet been officially confirmed. (with)
  • Santor
    Santor April 18 2014 13: 00
    +21
    Quote: Kornilovist
    Again the thugs stirred, but where are the actions of the Donbass republic?


    And she is ???? In Lugansk itself, right-hand people are quietly running around ukitsa and beating those who have St. George's ribbons, young people chanting "Get the willows", walking in droves under Ukrainian flags for a single ...

    I stupidly do not understand what in Donetsk does Lyashko do in the streets with a crowd of law-enforcement officers? What is a seizure of power? It seems to me more and more like some kind of parody and setup ...
    25 brigade ... yes there is 60 man only from all brigades, the rest are beaten up by the rebels .... Kharkov is no longer even mentioned ....

    Understand - a small part has taken to the streets in Donbass ... The rest are against ... In Kramatorsk it’s against, they’re yelling - what the hell are you doing, we put up with what we could not tolerate until the EU established the milk shores, put its own police and its fair laws?

    If Russia tries to send troops even to Donetsk, even to Lugansk region - by the moment all those who are sitting now in huts, and this 80% will rush to fight with the Russians ... At the same time, the Russians themselves ... I ask why? But on the couch - we do not want to be in your impoverished rashka ...

    This begs the question - why did our authorities turn a blind eye to unbridled anti-Russian propaganda in neighboring Ukraine for so many years, and often propaganda came from the top, from the ruling circles ....

    A simple Ukrainian knows that in Russia they pay more for gas than he (paid), and hell doesn’t want to understand that it was like a friendly offer ... And now they are offended by having selected a freebie ... And without exception, everyone sincerely thinks, and The media support them in this, that the growth of the hryvnia, the lack of goods in stores, the increase in prices and problems with salaries are the results of the machinations of a putler who made Russian slaves want to do the same from Ukrainians.
    Death to tyrant Putler, there is no slavery ... These are not the screams of 17 summer blockheads, so say 30-50 summer Ukrainians who consider themselves adequate ... Finish, it's time to drain the water.

    I already can’t even read those nonsense that you write here. Because young in age have not yet learned to compile the incoming information and look for the seeds of truth in it ...
    Put your cons.

    But this is an example of a blatant informational provocative war - http://dikoepole.net/archives/9189
    1. radar1967
      radar1967 April 18 2014 14: 28
      +3
      I agree with you completely, and I’m sure that Putin will not enter the troops. You Ukrainians did not deserve help. Putin taught history well at school. After all, it was not for the beautiful eyes of your grandfathers that the Germans were released from captivity on parole. And yet ... I think that soon Yarosh will fulfill his threat against the gas pipeline. And that you will tell the poor rush to your wife in the kitchen when you want to boil tea ...
      1. I am proud of Russia
        I am proud of Russia April 18 2014 14: 40
        +1
        radar1967 SU Today, 14:28 PM ↑ New
        I agree with you completely, and I’m sure that Putin will not enter the troops. You Ukrainians did not deserve help. Putin taught history well at school. After all, it was not for the beautiful eyes of your grandfathers that the Germans were released from captivity on parole. And yet ... I think that soon Yarosh will fulfill his threat against the gas pipeline. And that you will tell the rush beggar to your wife in the kitchen when you want to boil tea.

        Agree with you. Only thanks to provocateurs and the junta keeps.
    2. 97110
      97110 April 18 2014 15: 57
      +3
      Wife from Donbass. She says the same thing. We got used to it for free. Who hissed "mustache zyily" in the 80s? I think there were fewer Westerners in Donetsk than workers in the socialist trade. How they lived, pee-pee. When in Rostov we had nothing but whale meat in the stores ... Of course, they were told about Europe that everything was there ... and for nothing. And now they reared up when the miner's freebie puffed up. They do not understand that Yanukovych is no longer there, and no one will feed. The economy will close the mines, they will not pull against the Kuznetsk workers with their costs. That's when they understand that in Europe it is necessary to work in a non-Russian way, even then maybe they will fight for their lives. Or maybe they won't. BB is right - no need to bring troops there. Let them grow wiser at first, let them build their own lives. Or maybe they will like Polish swineherds more than Donetsk miners.
  • alex007983
    alex007983 April 18 2014 13: 05
    +1
    The junta will definitely play out and wait for decisive action from Russia.
    I propose to send the People's Army of Donbass three tire compositions, preferably from Belaz.
  • Belarus
    Belarus April 18 2014 13: 06
    +2
    You must first wait for confirmation of this information. Now you yourself know there is an information war (which Russia is losing unfortunately).
    Because, after yesterday’s meeting in the format of the four, at the end of which the State Department said that he had achieved more than he expected. And if you believe these mattresses who want to take the initiative on themselves, it turns out that Russia in general has failed.
    So let the people still wait for the official information.
    And if on the topic, then why did people take control of the admin building and give them something later?
    So after all, the junta can then declare victory and then shoot everyone in the forests and fields, because now they know a lot in the face and especially their families. And where are the prepared bases, where will their families live, etc., etc.
    But what about those who said that they would not leave this building that they would betray themselves and their beliefs?
  • Old warrant officer
    Old warrant officer April 18 2014 13: 08
    +3
    Quote: ed65b
    Take a soldier to exchange for their leaders.

    The Kiev junta doesn’t give a damn about these soldiers - they are just consumables, you can’t touch people in any way!
  • tnship2
    tnship2 April 18 2014 13: 10
    +7
    What kind of guerrilla war? What kind of monk-lemon? Why are your brothers bleached too much? And on the one hand they speak Russian and on the other they speak Russian. They just don’t hear each other yet. You need to be patient. The economy will sober up these heads. A month or two enterprises will become a stake and then there will be no time before the war. Of course, Russia will support the East, and for the western regions of the EU and the USA it has prepared a complete scam. Patience and again patience. You can not be fought on a provocation.
    1. I read the news
      I read the news April 18 2014 13: 59
      +2
      Someone still doubts that the economy will become "because of the damned maskals and their slaves, the separatists"?
  • Elle-elle
    Elle-elle April 18 2014 13: 13
    +2
    Quote: Horly
    Let me ask - where are both Yanukovych and Yakimenko now? That's right - in Russia! WHAT HELLO ???



    This question DOES NOT QUEST for several months to former voters of V.F.Yanukovych in the Donbass. Especially in conditions when people are pouring blood.
  • Orc-xnumx
    Orc-xnumx April 18 2014 13: 16
    +4
    The website of the British BBC writes: NATO did not promise Putin not to move east! There is no faith in these discards!
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker April 18 2014 13: 22
      +4
      Quote: Orc-78
      The website of the British BBC writes: NATO did not promise Putin not to move east!

      So GDP also promised nothing ...