Ukrainian paratroopers crushed the roadblock under the Slavic

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Ukrainian paratroopers crushed the roadblock under the Slavic


In the village of Sergeevka, Slavyansk district, Donetsk region, the Ukrainian military defeated a roadblock of supporters of the country's federalization.

According to local media, citing eyewitnesses, people in military uniform appeared in the village, shooting is heard in the area of ​​the highway. It is also known that in the area of ​​the roadblock there was a fire, but its cause is currently unknown.

Eyewitnesses also reported one dead, but officially this information has not yet been confirmed, reports "Interfax".

On the eve, supporters of federalization in Slavyansk and Kramatorsk took control of local telecentres, which provide broadcasts to cities in the south-east of the country. Instead of Ukrainian TV channels, Russian ones are now on the air.

On April 14, the 25 Brigade of the airborne troops stationed under Slavyansk moved to the side of the militia. Appointed by the Verkhovna Rada. President of Ukraine Oleksandr Turchynov threatened the court with the military who refused to fight against the civilian population.

Ukrainian troops continue to concentrate around Kramatorsk and Slavyansk.
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  1. +20
    April 18 2014 11: 54
    It seems specially provoked to shoot ... They won’t understand now .. It's easier to shoot ... You need to check the info ...
    1. +88
      April 18 2014 12: 00
      ATTENTION!!!!!
      WHAT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DO TO THE REPUBLICAN .... In no case should one get involved in an open fire confrontation! I repeat - IN NO CASE! People need to be protected. Each militia is worth its weight in gold. Especially the former military. There is the experience of the Belarusian partisans, tested over the years, whose tactics of action have been successfully developed by the Afghan and North Caucasian Mujahideen. Cheap but cheerful!
      1. jjj
        +69
        April 18 2014 12: 03
        Small groups at night disturb the fire in the locations. Disable equipment, disrupt communications. No need to kill people
        1. +10
          April 18 2014 15: 50
          if you fight, then you will have to kill .. hosh, no hosh ... the right-wing people work together with the army, they are dressed alike, armed ... is it worth understanding? soldier or pravosek ?? as they say "took up the tug, do not say that it is not hefty" and peaceful protests will no longer be punished .. they were sent to kill and issued an indulgence .. that the junta that the European Union .. so .. that either, or ....
        2. +4
          April 18 2014 19: 41
          No need to kill people

          There are people, and there are fascists. Pravoseki and their sympathizers are not people! A good lawyer is a dead lawyer.
        3. +3
          April 18 2014 22: 03
          Quote: jjj
          Small groups at night disturb the fire in the locations. Disable equipment, disrupt communications. No need to kill people


          It is necessary to kill, but only specifically those who shoot the militias themselves. Otherwise, they will believe in their complete impunity and will commit atrocities even more.
      2. +36
        April 18 2014 12: 07
        You forgot about the airborne brigade ... This is a regular part that is capable of fighting ... Airborne maneuverability allows you to destroy the enemy in positions.
        Partisan war means surrender of territory ...
        1. +6
          April 18 2014 12: 16
          Quote: domokl
          Partisan war means surrender of territory ...


          This is the right of the population to protect themselves.
        2. ed65b
          +20
          April 18 2014 12: 26
          Quote: domokl
          You forgot about the airborne brigade ... This is a regular part that is capable of fighting ... Airborne maneuverability allows you to destroy the enemy in positions.
          Partisan war means surrender of territory ...

          I agree. We must pass on to the experience of the resistance of the Chechen separatists in Grozny (damn how things have changed) to burn the equipment together with the crews. Take a soldier to exchange for their leaders. It is time for the people of the southeast and the militia to understand that the troops did not come with them to drink vodka, but to kill.
          1. +52
            April 18 2014 12: 40
            Under no circumstances should you attack army columns (YET). It is necessary to knock out the National Guard and the right sector. (You can undermine the "Omega") and do not touch the conscripts in any case!
            1. +10
              April 18 2014 12: 54
              Quote: Werwolf
              Under no circumstances should you attack army columns (YET). It is necessary to knock out the National Guard and the right sector. (You can undermine the "Omega") and do not touch the conscripts in any case!


              After your comment, the units will be mixed.
              1. WKS
                +1
                April 18 2014 17: 46
                Before that, they themselves of course will not think of it.
                1. 0
                  April 18 2014 20: 24
                  Quote: wks
                  Before that, they themselves of course will not think of it.


                  All sorts of here enough.
                  The site is open.
              2. +1
                April 19 2014 03: 02
                think ... Turchinov HERE? :)))) sits and reads everything? :)) although where else is he studying military science except for not on the Internet .. mountain of supreme commander of horseradish)))))
            2. DNR
              +9
              April 18 2014 13: 06
              I completely agree with you. Conscripts also suffer from a lack of correct information. With the army you need to work with the WORD, as in 1917.
              1. +2
                April 18 2014 15: 28
                In your version, only officers served in the White Army?
            3. +2
              April 18 2014 13: 46
              And how do you determine if they will be dressed for example, or will be in an armored personnel carrier, or in a covered car. There will still be victims.
            4. +8
              April 18 2014 13: 48
              Humanity is an interesting thing ... What is more humane? Undermine 2 dozens of armored personnel carriers and prevent the invasion or feel sorry for the young guys and thereby unleash a long-term bloody civil war? and more ... In Ukraine, in fact, it’s not all men, but women who decide. / otherwise in Moscow there wouldn’t be so many priestesses of love /. If Ukrainian mothers get scared for their children, it will begin that Maidan will appear as a children's matinee- THE WAR WILL QUICKLY END!
            5. ed65b
              +4
              April 18 2014 15: 00
              Quote: Werwolf
              Under no circumstances should you attack army columns (YET). It is necessary to knock out the National Guard and the right sector. (You can undermine the "Omega") and do not touch the conscripts in any case!

              Does he have on his forehead that he is an conscript or right sector?
              1. +2
                April 18 2014 20: 29
                Quote: ed65b
                Does he have on his forehead that he is an conscript or right sector?


                Of course not.

                Dressings appear like:
                "Attention! Do not shoot! I am a conscript."
          2. MIRU-MIR66
            +31
            April 18 2014 13: 07
            http://nnils.livejournal.com/1728384.html
            With God, gentlemen officers! Victory will be ours!
            ATTENTION!
            According to available information - the days of the Bandera junta are numbered!
            The People's Liberation Army of the Southeast is ready for a full-scale opposition against the Bandera junta. Rebel units are also ready in other regions of Ukraine and in Kiev itself.

            Yanukovych will come to Ukraine from day to day and practically the whole army will support him. It will be supported by the majority in the Ministry of Internal Affairs and even in the SBU.
            There will be no Russian Army! Everything will be done by the citizens of Ukraine itself! And with full permission to act harshly in the framework of the counter-terrorist operation by order of the legitimate President Yanukovych.

            No "polite green men"!

            There will be ferocious Ukrainian men.
            ........
            1. predator.3
              +7
              April 18 2014 15: 03
              Quote: MIRU-MIR66
              Yanukovych will arrive in Ukraine from day to day


              Unless someone kicks him!
            2. 0
              April 18 2014 17: 33
              Your words, yes to God in the ears.
            3. 0
              April 18 2014 17: 34
              Your words, yes to God in the ears.
            4. 0
              April 19 2014 05: 05
              Fierce Ukrainian men - it sounds in Russian. soldier
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          3. +10
            April 18 2014 13: 08
            Quote: ed65b
            I agree. We must pass on to the experience of resistance of the Chechen separatists in Grozny

            Eidik, I think that GDP hasn’t even reached its violin
            to play it, not everything is as bad as the media report. Very much his pravoseki annoy, he will force them.
            1. 0
              April 19 2014 03: 03
              Yes there is no violin .. CONTRABASIS NEEDED .. along the ridge!)))
          4. +4
            April 18 2014 13: 28
            Quote: ed65b
            It is time for the people of the southeast and the militia to understand that the troops did not come with them to drink vodka, but to kill.

            I would draw attention to the fact that not the army but the national guard, which included the radicals of the Right Sector, so they legitimized them, now there is no IEE from Kiev. Now, these provocateurs from Kiev are called the rebels of the Southeast. And they wanted to spit on the Geneva Convention, in what.
          5. +6
            April 18 2014 14: 26
            Take a soldier to exchange for their leaders.
            The Kiev junta doesn’t give a damn about both its soldiers and the national guard, they need to have a swara, where everyone who can stop them from reigning in their president’s presence can be flown to Kiev to the noise. hi
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          7. 0
            April 19 2014 03: 00
            Quote: ed65b
            Take a soldier to exchange for their leaders.

            I think that Yaytsenyukha Turchinov and other gopniks will be sideways to the soldiers and they will not exchange anyone for them. Now, if they are offered American cookies, then yes, they are ready to change their homeland for them. Classic - Boy Badman, who changed his homeland for a box of cookies and a barrel of jam)))
        3. +12
          April 18 2014 12: 36
          Partisan war means surrender of territory ...
          Let me disagree. A well-organized, let alone a term, guerrilla warfare, on friendly territory, with a friendly population, can block almost any actions of the enemy, especially the enemy, who himself doesn’t really want to fight. For example, a column advanced and suddenly intense firing was heard in its rear. The columns of punishers are not so numerous and the commander, if of course there is what, really needs to think, but, what is it actually in his rear? And what can follow? You don’t even have to make contact. Or suddenly intense radio conversations on the air or the launch of a dozen s / missiles well, etc. The effect of presence will reduce the effect of pressure, something like this.
          1. +6
            April 18 2014 12: 48
            Quote: Navy7981
            For example, a column advanced and suddenly intense firing was heard in its rear.



            In the warus battle of the Germanic tribes with the Roman legions, it was so defeated
            three legions (in each legion there were 5000-6000 soldiers plus 8000 people. convoy)
            1. philip
              +1
              April 18 2014 13: 20
              For a long time they are not exactly stuffy to us. Love to see, al it seemed a little, it is necessary to add.
          2. +9
            April 18 2014 13: 04
            And you can still just peg with a sign - MINES. Min do not let them look. Until they get used to the fact that there are no mines, and then it’s already mined without shell VU.
          3. +2
            April 18 2014 15: 42
            Partisan night rest day.
        4. +17
          April 18 2014 12: 37
          Territory doesn’t mean anything. You won’t stop tanks and RPGs, but you’ll lose people. This is Ukraine, there is a plain and infantry there is nowhere to fight ... and the Airborne Forces against guns is not intended. It’s more like partisans in uniform .... Let the banderlogs take territory. On their own head. The deeper they swallow, the faster they choke. We have already passed this. It is necessary that the land at the banderlog under your feet burn. So that we were afraid to go to the store one by one, that we were afraid of snipers, mortars and MONOK ... as we once were in Chechnya ...
          1. +4
            April 18 2014 13: 51
            For technology, the worst thing is urban buildings, where they have no room for maneuver and you can even throw Molotov cocktails.
            1. +1
              April 18 2014 18: 47
              But you don’t need bottles, please. This is not a movie or maidan. An evil uncle with a machine gun will come out and with a fright of all patriots he will shoot down tries .. Armored vehicles are not a colander, and it is extremely difficult to burn it with gasoline. Moreover, after the first attempt, weaknesses are sure to be eliminated. Where it is necessary to legislate, where it is necessary to ambush ...
        5. +8
          April 18 2014 12: 44
          There will be no change. The territory will be controlled by the Nazis during the day, and the partisans by night. Let the fascists be in constant tension, they won’t sleep for an extra hour. This will quickly affect their morale!
        6. +4
          April 18 2014 12: 53
          I completely agree that guerrilla warfare is surrender of the territory. Not then, people occupied the buildings to subsequently surrender them.
          1. +4
            April 18 2014 13: 24
            On the contrary ... if they surrounded, then turn in the building for 200000 to Kalo-moisky. With this money, organize, feed, dress, put on shoes, arm and ... start from the beginning - to capture the next, if surrounded, then turn in the building for 200000 Kalo-Moisky. With this money people ...
        7. +2
          April 18 2014 13: 35
          And why not wage a sabotage war in small groups. At night they crashed, one group of mobile distracts, lures and disappears, and several others with grenade launchers destroy equipment and then also disappears. You can also arrange ambushes, undermining vehicles on the roads — this is a guerrilla war.
          1. +3
            April 18 2014 13: 43
            Quote: Simon
            And why not wage a sabotage war

            Do you read comments? With whom to wage war? What civil has already begun? But what about the 25th from the Dnieper, the police and others?
            Pravosekov and the paid abomination, it is necessary to catch.
            And as soon as the first APC or other equipment is blown up, the troupe will be thrown there in soldier's uniform and all will be declared terrorists.
            Do you want that?
            1. +1
              April 18 2014 14: 05
              Do you read comments?
              Not only the whole Southeast has long been declared terrorists ... Already guns go to your liking ...
              Did you mean it?
              1. 0
                April 18 2014 14: 11
                Quote: radar1967
                Already guns are riding your soul ...

                Whose soul is this? More specifically, please. And then something is not clear.
                1. 0
                  April 18 2014 14: 26
                  Good men go over to the personality.

                  After Geneva, Kiev did not abandon the force method.
                  The army must protect the people.
                  If two nations appeared in one country in one country, it is better not to intervene in the army.
                  Kiev does not fulfill the conditions. And who will protect the people of Donbas now?
        8. +1
          April 18 2014 14: 06
          It depends on the airborne forces of the Ukrainian airborne forces and there is no experience and the personnel are from western Ukraine and their rival is unarmed militias
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        10. 0
          April 18 2014 14: 24
          Normally, this all means. This position - with the methodology of partisan struggle - was voiced even in the very first speeches of SE. Technique to burn. Take care of people.
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      3. avg
        0
        April 18 2014 12: 29
        Alexander Turchinov threatened a military court who refused to fight against civilians.

        The military follows the constitution, which Turchinov rudely violates. The time will come and this stsuka will sit down if he does not run away.
      4. +4
        April 18 2014 12: 41
        Yes, no frontal confrontation. There may be ambushes and raids with subsequent departure. Destroy first of all armored vehicles, artillery and aviation. Eliminate warehouses of food, weapons, fuel and lubricants and base deployment. Need full-blown guerrilla resistance!
        1. +9
          April 18 2014 12: 58
          Interesting. How do you imagine full-blown guerrilla resistance?
          Need to start a fratricidal civil war? fool
          Is it not obvious that the army does not want to fight the people? Example 25 from Dnepropetrovsk.
          Now there are scumbags paid. That's who needs to be caught and put on a stake.
          1. +1
            April 18 2014 13: 09
            Quote: Little Muck
            Now there are scumbags paid. That's who needs to be caught and put on a stake.

            Dear, how to catch them without a partisan militia? request

            And now, they reported that in Slavyansk, they prevented the attack, they caught law enforcement officers with 5-6 spent kilos, walkie-talkies, chiset pistols, fuses!
            1. 0
              April 18 2014 13: 30
              Quote: Sid.74
              , reported that in Slavyansk

              Please note in Slavyansk. After all, he is under the control of self-defense. Or do I not know something?
              In my opinion, the territory is being cleansed and controlled. Or how?
              The same thing must be done in other places. Create mobile groups and with the support of the population and the police clean up their land. What to hide at home? Is Southeast already captured?
              1. +1
                April 18 2014 13: 49
                Quote: Little Muck
                Please note in Slavyansk. After all, he is under the control of self-defense. Or do I not know something?
                In my opinion, the territory is being cleansed and controlled. Or how?
                The same thing must be done in other places. Create mobile groups and with the support of the population and the police clean up their land. What to hide at home? Is Southeast already captured?


                So I do not dispute your words, I think no one in Ukraine wants a war!
                Mobile groups are good for short-lived combat and against Maidan attacks!
                So the question is, how to dismantle the junta and the oligarchs without large-scale militias in the country, and not in individual cities? What will it be called a people's squad, popular militia, partisans, it does not matter! The main thing should come from the people and on a different scale! the whole country! Everywhere should be organized militia against the junta!
                1. +1
                  April 18 2014 14: 06
                  Quote: Sid.74
                  What it will be called a people's squad, a people's militia, partisans, does not matter!

                  Yes, my friend.
                  Partisans, this is one thing. But the national team, along with the police, is different.
                  Cleaning the dirt from the territory is open, that's right.
                  Partisan attacks mean admit defeat and try to resist.
                  Quote: Sid.74
                  Mobile groups are good for short-lived combat and against Maidan attacks!

                  So, is the army still not fighting the people?
                  So it is necessary to hollow maydaunov. One, two, more, but constantly and throughout the Southeast.
                  Then this homosexual will run home to hide.
                  1. +2
                    April 18 2014 14: 20
                    Quote: Little Muck
                    Cleaning the dirt from the territory is open, that's right.
                    Partisan attacks mean admit defeat and try to resist.

                    And how to grind the nests of the pro-mosquito without partisan sorties?
                    In general, it seems to me that we are talking about the same thing! You just give the partisans the word some special meaning!
                    Quote: Little Muck
                    So it is necessary to hollow maydaunov. One, two, more, but constantly and throughout the Southeast.

                    So you echo me, I just want to note that they will constantly attack if they are given a breath in a safe place! The counterattack on Kiev will be in any way! hi
                    1. +2
                      April 18 2014 14: 34
                      Understand. Each word carries a semantic load.
                      In your opinion, it is not important which word to use "separatist" or "member of self-defense".
                      Just playing with words and concepts embedded in them, the junta plays, calling some "separatists" and others "fighters for a united Ukraine", and trumpets about it all over the world.
                      Everything should be called as it should be called. And not otherwise.
                      1. 0
                        April 18 2014 14: 44
                        Quote: Little Muck
                        Understand. Each word carries a semantic load.
                        In your opinion, it is not important which word to use "separatist" or "member of self-defense".
                        Just playing with words and concepts embedded in them, the junta plays, calling some "separatists" and others "fighters for a united Ukraine", and trumpets about it all over the world.
                        Everything should be called as it should be called. And not otherwise.

                        Good, good friend! hi I understand you, Vitaly! Then call the militia, peacekeepers! wink
                        Peacekeepers of Donbass! I like it! Yes
                      2. +1
                        April 18 2014 14: 48
                        Agreed. hi
                    2. +6
                      April 18 2014 14: 43
                      ...............
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                      2. +2
                        April 18 2014 16: 23
                        Something like this. Here you have to sow something. The state is over. And these "sutski" Kiev fly and interfere with life laughing

                        http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/678/uxts790.jpg
              2. +1
                April 18 2014 21: 20
                Sergeevka horseradish knows where from Slavyansk. It is about 15 kilometers from Kramatorsk. So it turned out that many settlements in the Slavyansk region are closer to Kramatorsk, and it does not have a city of regional subordination. Our boys were from Kramakha on the block. Last night the whole mountain I stood on Conder’s ears, they waited, but the troops didn’t go looking at night, and today it’s pretty quiet, only at the end of the shift the guy in the brigade got a call from friends from the block under the airfield, some black-assed landed there (either mercenaries or someone xs)
          2. philip
            0
            April 18 2014 13: 27
            What right you are cruel right to the count. 100000 lashes will survive re-education, will be a man.
          3. +1
            April 18 2014 14: 39
            The civil war, in fact, has already begun and it can be stopped by the consolidated resistance of the civil society of the Southeast. The first is a general strike. The second is active physical resistance to killers. There, from where the bullet flew, a grenade should fly! But not before. For an eye - a head. For the tooth - the jaw. This is so, figuratively.
          4. +1
            April 18 2014 22: 14
            In the Ukrainian army, not all are white and fluffy. Not pravoseki manage military aircraft, tanks and other armored vehicles. This is all the army, and often officers. Who brought the National Guard to the airfield, where they took hostages? Do you think that this can be left unanswered? The civil war is already underway and there is no need to lament about this now. And if specific helicopters were burned at the airport, the banderlogs would not have been able to take hostages. All thoughts would only be about how to take your ass.
      5. 77bob1973
        +1
        April 18 2014 14: 36
        That's right, as soon as the partisans begin to dig trenches, they lose!
      6. 0
        April 18 2014 17: 58
        Quote: radar1967
        North Caucasian Mujahideen.

        You will call the Wahhabi terrorists of the North Caucasus Mujahideen. Calling them Mujahideen, you openly support what they are doing. Apparently ambition has completely overshadowed your brain. negative
    2. +8
      April 18 2014 12: 07
      Well, Avakov urgently needed at least a tiny, but victory over the not submissive southeast ... The Kiev junta probably already equated the capture of this barricade with the Americans, well, or Iwajima ...
      1. +3
        April 18 2014 12: 18
        Quote: Hammer
        Well, Avakov urgently needed at least a tiny, but victory over the not submissive southeast

        This is so for the report to Bandera in Kiev, otherwise they are now there themselves hostage.
        1. +25
          April 18 2014 12: 29
          CyberBerkut strikes a new cyber blow!


          Patriotic group of Ukraine "CyberBerkut"

          We, CyberBerkut, appeal to the people of Ukraine! Today, in our country, the fascist government is pushing the army to unleash a civil war, and corrupt oligarchs use the money stolen from the people to fool and incite hysteria and mutual hatred in the country. Such actions threaten the national security and integrity of Ukraine as a state and will inevitably lead to mass bloodshed. We, CyberBerkut, consider it our duty to stop the flow of cynical lies and misinformation on the Internet, using which the traitors of our country are ready to drown it in the blood of civilians.
          We, CyberBerkut, declare a cyber war for the Kiev junta! Yesterday, we carried out a massive attack on Internet resources controlled by the self-proclaimed authorities, and disconnected the DNS servers of the UA registrar, as a result of which the operation of the largest DATA center in Kiev was completely blocked.
          If the junta does not stop giving criminal orders, then we will continue to turn off domain zones in the country until it experiences virtual death, and the Internet map of Ukraine does not turn into a blank spot from lies.


          CyberBerkut attacks the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine

          The Kiev junta continues to commit unlawful inhuman acts against the Ukrainian people. The decision to conduct the so-called anti-terrorist operation in the eastern regions of the country was made at a meeting of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine by the Maidan bandits Turchinov, Nalyvaychenko, Avakov and Parubiy. It was the NSDC that initiated the reprisals against Ukrainians in the way familiar to the Maidan - the destruction of those who disagree with the policy pursued by the "new government".
          Today we, CyberBerkut, once again block the work of the NSDC resource http://rnbo.gov.ua/ and warn the bastard Parubiya and his accomplices that more stringent measures will follow from our side!
          Residents of Donetsk, Lugansk and Kharkov regions, we are with you! Victory will be ours!

          We are a CyberBerkut! We will not forget! We will not forgive!
          1. +2
            April 18 2014 14: 24
            I think you need to enter cards. As near Stalingrad there were cards with German generals instead of suits. These decks were scattered over surrounded by German troops.
            1. +1
              April 18 2014 14: 31
              Quote: Sith Lord
              I think you need to enter cards. As near Stalingrad there were cards with German generals instead of suits. These decks were scattered over surrounded by German troops.

              A very noble idea! hi How would this convey to the opponents of the junta? request
              1. +1
                April 18 2014 15: 31
                Write right here.
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      3. +1
        April 18 2014 12: 22
        There is really not enough cards with the printed positions for a full understanding of what is happening. Who knows where the 25th Airborne Brigade is now?
        1. +7
          April 18 2014 12: 27
          Their command knows
          1. +1
            April 18 2014 12: 32
            Quote: I readNews
            Their command knows


            hmm .. a competent answer. +

            PS something I'm getting excited.
            1. philip
              0
              April 18 2014 13: 32
              PS something I'm getting excited.

              You are not alone.
        2. 0
          April 18 2014 14: 35
          Turchinov announced that this brigade has been disbanded.
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      4. +1
        April 18 2014 13: 18
        Quote: Hammer
        Well, Avakov urgently needed a tiny victory, but


        The blogger Avakov never had and never will have victories. And any grandmother at any entrance will say that his days are numbered.
      5. 0
        April 18 2014 15: 18
        On the scale of the second world Guadal - the channel will be smaller. 13 thousand Japanese in 2 months through the USA’s erotic efforts.
      6. 0
        April 18 2014 17: 23
        No, it looks like it smells of Ishmael!
    3. 0
      April 18 2014 20: 25
      Everyone thinks he is a strategist seeing the fight from the side.
  2. GDP
    +14
    April 18 2014 11: 55
    And this is against the backdrop of negotiations with Russia and the United States on a peaceful solution to the conflict in the South-East of Ukraine ...
    1. +5
      April 18 2014 11: 57
      Negotiations are needed by everyone except the Ukrainian people in order to survive in the current state before the elections ... So ... There was nothing special there except for the PPR (we sat, had a drink ... talked and broke up) ...
    2. kia64
      +13
      April 18 2014 11: 59
      There were negotiations and treaties with Hitler too, but this did not stop him from starting a war with us. The same agreements with pind.osiya and podpin.dosnikami for us agreements and they need to live up to the elections and legalize.
      1. +5
        April 18 2014 12: 07
        Quote: kia64
        There were negotiations and treaties with Hitler too, but this did not stop him from starting a war with us. The same agreements with pind.osiya and podpin.dosnikami for us agreements and they need to live up to the elections and legalize.

        P AND N D S S will do everything so that the Slavs begin to wet each other. Fascists need to be soaked in the bud. Anyway. Only federalization, only it can save Ukraine.
        1. +1
          April 18 2014 12: 12
          Quote: Sandov
          P AND N D S S will do everything so that the Slavs begin to wet each other.

          That's right ... In this case, the UN will be obliged to introduce peacekeepers .. And it is clear who and where will go ... What is required ... Ukraine as a single state will cease to exist ... T.N. German version ...
    3. philip
      0
      April 18 2014 13: 37
      It seems to me that it's not so simple. These negotiations are essentially carte blanche to protect the interests of RUSSIA and this is Sorry, the war, and not just anywhere, but in RUSSIA.
    4. +2
      April 18 2014 14: 04
      Quote: GDP
      And this is against the backdrop of negotiations with Russia and the United States on a peaceful solution to the conflict in the South-East of Ukraine ...

      I do not know request But judging by Obama's comments on the outcome of the negotiations, it looks like Russia, once again and against signature, was brought up with demands to end any support for protests in Southeast Ukraine. Ukraine is once again on the sidelines, it is "innocent", it is defending itself from "Russian aggression".
      The situation is similar to a glass of water: for some, the glass is half empty, and for someone half full. The United States approves the actions of the Ukrainian authorities and supports their punitive actions, blaming Russia all along the way, but we say that the Kiev authorities should negotiate with the Southeast and blame the USA and the EU for the chaos and lawlessness created in Ukraine.
      I.e.we see again different interpretations of the agreements signed in Geneva. Who should I disarm? Natsik and Banderlog are framed as the National Guard, i.e. their armed forces are now legalized. Donbass militias are now illegal armed groups, according to the West and Kiev what
  3. +20
    April 18 2014 11: 55
    It looks like yesterday's negotiations with Lavrov were the go-ahead to action for the Kiev pseudo-rulers. What and with whom to negotiate, if everyone has decided long ago. For example, I found this: "Kiev’s actions to restrict the entry of Russians into Ukraine do not contradict the principles of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE). This, according to NTV, the organization said"So the whole point of these agreements is zero without a stick, no one is going to observe them, except for us!
    1. +1
      April 18 2014 13: 02
      The guest workers from Little Russia are in a company-by-company, platoon-by-foot approach to Kiev !!!
      In the course of movement through the Donetsk Republic, arm and flag in their hands !!!
  4. +5
    April 18 2014 11: 56
    Nominated by the Verkhovna Rada President of Ukraine Oleksandr Turchynov threatened a military court who refused to fight against civilians.


    ETOGES 3.14 ...
    1. 0
      April 18 2014 13: 51
      Quote: Deniska
      Nominated by the Verkhovna Rada President of Ukraine Oleksandr Turchynov threatened a military court who refused to fight against civilians.


      ETOGES 3.14 ...

      Criminals, I hope the tribunal in Rostov will wait for these people.
  5. +26
    April 18 2014 11: 56
    Ukrainian paratroopers crushed the roadblock under the Slavic


    Here are the "heroes", does it take a lot of cleverness to smash the people's checkpoint out of tires?

    On April 14, the 25 Brigade of the airborne troops stationed under Slavyansk moved to the side of the militia.


    Stop giving people false hope. Not passed, and gave up arms and went to the Dnieper.
  6. +25
    April 18 2014 11: 56
    You shoot at your own - you turn from a soldier into a punisher!
    1. +2
      April 18 2014 12: 44
      Quote: made13
      You shoot at your own - you turn from a soldier into a punisher!

      What is true is true. How can you make a normal person, not a killer, not a maniac, shoot ordinary people ??? It seems to me that for such purposes the junta needs special punitive detachments from people who have already killed before, or from zombies .. What can a person come to a foreign village or city feel to kill people there ???
      I saw a video where Bandera executed prisoners of war during the Maidan in the basement, just like the Wahhabis in Chechnya, beheading. Not to look nervous:
      http://runo-lj.livejournal.com/840389.html
      1. 0
        April 18 2014 15: 40
        Quote: DEfindER
        Not to look nervous:
        http://runo-lj.livejournal.com/840389.html
        This video has been removed from public access.
        1. 0
          April 18 2014 17: 01
          Quote: Stanislav
          This video has been removed from public access.

          there is still ..
          http://yadi.sk/d/1STHHPXhMivi5
  7. +27
    April 18 2014 11: 57
    That’s the scribe ... to all the Geneva agreements.

    By the way, returning to the topic 20 of missing Americans from PMCs -
    "A source in the Russian Security Council stated that about 20 American citizens, presumably employees of the private military company Blackwater, disappeared near Donetsk ...
    And in addition, because I very much asked, they explained that: (a) indeed, "these two dozen people in the uniform of the Ukrainian militia were sufficiently well armed and prepared, physically and mentally, to smash the crowd that surrounded them to shreds", but stopped them not so much "cameras and iron discipline", how many very benevolent appearance "of fifty people armed with Kalashnikov assault rifles, in camouflage without insignia and in civilian clothes"; (b) and where these "two dozen" are now, no one knows, because when trying to interrogate them, it turned out that the voluntary translator (English ticker from the local secretary of the school) could not make out the viscous, nasty speech of the prisoners. So, I had to call another city, from where, after a few hours, people flew in and took the citizens of the United States to the place where the specialists could find everything. "

    And where are these mercenaries now? Where do they testify?
    1. +8
      April 18 2014 12: 03
      "Was there a boy?"Don't you think there is too much talk about mercenaries!
      1. 0
        April 18 2014 18: 08
        Quote: Horly
        "Was there a boy?" Don't you think there is too much talk about mercenaries!

        Greetings to Alexander, most people don’t even want to move their brains. Suppose that I or someone else directs the actions of forces that are against the government. The authorities use the services of foreign mercenaries. And about 20 people fall into my hands. What do you think, what will I or a perfectly sane commander do in this situation?
        That's right. He’ll collect an armada of journalists and show them to them. Firstly, this is strong evidence, secondly it is an influx of supporters, and thirdly, it’s a blow to the government more than the defeat of any army brigade. Such news is the end for the authorities.
        Now there is an influx of rumors and misinformation from Ukraine in droves. And many simply believe in it.
    2. +3
      April 18 2014 12: 25
      Quote: mamont5
      And where are these mercenaries now? Where do they testify?


      It’s possible that they went over to the side of the self-defense forces laughing
      1. +1
        April 18 2014 12: 51
        Thank you!laughing laughing
  8. +3
    April 18 2014 11: 57
    Well, the fact that Turchinov’s days are numbered is understandable. If the army, which is forced to shoot at its people, does not dare to turn the tanks to Kiev and drop the junta, then Turchinov will be hanged by the Maydan, as if he had not justified his confidence. He has no chance and he perfectly understands this.
  9. +7
    April 18 2014 11: 58
    Apparently, the hohlohunta lives somewhere in his imaginary world, not intersecting with reality. He does not face trial, but it’s time to sit in court
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  11. +1
    April 18 2014 11: 58
    The incident was most likely. Vesti reported that they arrived at night in helicopters (?!), Mixed up the guards from the rebels, wounded him, and took control of the village.

    - violate yesterday’s agreement on the non-use of force.
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    1. +1
      April 18 2014 12: 09
      100% staging. Turn on any channel - it’s more probable in all of the cinema.
  13. +5
    April 18 2014 11: 59
    The actions of the military contradict the agreements reached as a result of the Geneva meeting. Apparently, the Kiev authorities continue to play a double game.
    1. +5
      April 18 2014 12: 14
      For a double game, brains are needed. And here it’s clearly brown instead of gray matter in the head. Some reflexes.
    2. +1
      April 18 2014 12: 23
      The actions of the military (or national guard) are on different planes with diplomatic efforts. Lavrov's press conference on the results of the negotiations was after 21-00 in Moscow. He agreed with Kerry, and not with the representative of the junta, he refused to speak with him .. The Amers simply did not have time to thoughtfully convey their position after negotiations. Plus night, first with us, then with them. Further, the gap to bring to the performers. Therefore, the reaction should be expected no earlier than 13-14 hours in Washington. And there it will already be clear what to do next.
  14. 0
    April 18 2014 11: 59
    Ukrosmi:

    Concern РРТ together with SBU released the captured radio transmitting center in Kramatorsk.
    The Radio Broadcasting, Radio Communication and Television Concern (KRRT), together with SBU employees, released the radio-transmitting center captured by armed men in Kramatorsk and turned off the broadcasting of Russian channels.

    - violate yesterday’s agreement on the non-use of force.
    1. +1
      April 18 2014 12: 36
      Something I have never heard of someone taking over the radio transmission center in Kramatorsk. rather, the same crap as the fact that the "separatists" seized the Kramatorsk airfield, where in fact no one captured it, but two entrances to the airfield were blocked, but you can enter or leave it from any point ... although today I heard that the perimeter of the airfield was "mined" ...
  15. +12
    April 18 2014 12: 00
    So for what so many years have been taught and trained by heroic Ukrainian paratroopers! Heroic war with civilian unarmed people and storm tires. Heroes, one word .... Well at least disgrace the name of the Ukrainian landing force, and not the Russian one. Margelov would have them just pootryv eggs and made them gobbled up. And now it's not too late ...
    1. +2
      April 18 2014 12: 05
      Quote: Chifka
      So for what so many years have been taught and trained by heroic Ukrainian paratroopers! Heroic war with civilian unarmed people and storm tires. Heroes, one word .... Well at least disgrace the name of the Ukrainian landing force, and not the Russian one. Margelov would have them just pootryv eggs and made them gobbled up. And now it's not too late ...


      So they go with Margelovsky flags. sad
      1. 0
        April 18 2014 13: 10
        At the block posts to organize mobile fountains for their bathing ...
  16. Vita_vko
    +10
    April 18 2014 12: 00
    People of the South-East should feel real support and a clear organization, for this it is enough to connect the legitimate head of the SBU Yakimenko, if Yanukovych himself is afraid of responsibility. In addition, Yakimenko is perhaps the only sane and decisive person who can restore order not only in the Southeast, but also in Ukraine. It would be nice if he could lead the whole Southeast and run for president of Ukraine.
    1. +6
      April 18 2014 12: 05
      Let me ask - where are both Yanukovych and Yakimenko now? That's right - in Russia! WHAT HELLO ???
    2. +4
      April 18 2014 12: 33
      Well, what did this legitimate head of the SBU Yakimenko do? Do not enlighten? He "sat" both his position and Ukraine. BUT now from the screens of the RUSSIAN TV broadcasts that "I knew about this and about that ...". If such a cool professional, then no fucking shit in Russia - blow into the Donbass and organize resistance. He does not go, he knows that they will surely chase away this yap with pissing rags ...
      1. Vita_vko
        +3
        April 18 2014 13: 03
        Quote: tolancop
        blow to Donbass and organize resistance. He’s not traveling, he knows that they’ll probably drive this yap away with pissed rags

        Just speaking on Russian TV, he is trying to rehabilitate himself so that people in the Southeast believe him. Otherwise, you are right .. they will drive him away. In addition, it was Yakimenko who announced the anti-terrorist operation against maydauns and law enforcement officers, and if Yanukovych had not turned on the back and betrayed his security forces, there would have been no coup, and this is a serious guarantee.
        Moreover, I am sure there are "sent Cossacks" in the resistance environment who do not allow the South-East to unite and pour information into the West for $. With these, too, you need to fight and identify. Therefore, we need a normal military organization of both the armed units of the Donbas people's militia and the unarmed population, we need a system of combat and logistical support, we need a plan. All this can be done and organized only on the territory of Russia, where no extra ears are guaranteed.
      2. +1
        April 18 2014 13: 58
        We don’t know much. SBU are not soldiers. If not for his actions, or rather inaction, then we would not see the Crimea ...
        1. Old Cynic
          +3
          April 18 2014 15: 15
          So sho vi say?
          SBU are not soldiers. If not for his actions, or rather inaction, then we would not see the Crimea ...


          Kolechno, the SBU are not soldiers, they are, apparently, an exit group of the Mariinsky Theater. They do not have their own special forces, machinery and special equipment, right?
  17. +15
    April 18 2014 12: 01
    I am getting more and more the impression that until ours moves from conversations to business (even if there is even hidden, but tangible help), there will be no sense. Only a shot can stop an animal that has tasted blood!
    1. +5
      April 18 2014 12: 11
      I agree. In addition, this beast needs to report to its American owners for every dollar. In a month or two, it will be necessary to get out of the country somewhere, if they are still alive, that’s the gears with tripled energy.
    2. +2
      April 18 2014 12: 22
      Quote: Horly
      I am getting more and more the impression that until ours moves from conversations to business (even if there is even hidden, but tangible help), there will be no sense. Only a shot can stop an animal that has tasted blood!

      Hope dies last. Rusichi do not believe the junta. She is led from America.
  18. Gagarin
    +3
    April 18 2014 12: 02
    Systematic provocations are going on, at the moment for the junta it is the best weapon.
  19. +16
    April 18 2014 12: 03
    Well, banderlogs don’t want to go to pacify the rebellious Donbass ...

    and in the Supreme Zrada, another show, about, I’m waiting to take pennies, since the pan-ataman has no gold reserves:
    1. +4
      April 18 2014 12: 57
      I finally understood why, after all revolutions, governments always start external wars. What to do with these morons ???? That is the reason for the victories of Napoleon.
  20. avt
    +8
    April 18 2014 12: 04
    I went to the Ukrzensor, no - they said that the Nazi guard carried out a successful operation at the “separatists” checkpoint near Kramatorsk on the armored personnel carrier 4, after which they returned to the base, towing the equipment. laughing
    1. +4
      April 18 2014 12: 38
      Quote: avt
      near Kramatorsk on armored personnel carrier 4, the Nazi guard carried out a successful operation at the "separatist" checkpoint, after which the unit returned to the base, towing the equipment


      Car tires were taken as trophies. winked
      1. +1
        April 18 2014 13: 14
        The main symbol of events in Little Russia - tires, must necessarily go to the "state" awards of the self-proclaimed "power" for their "heroes"
    2. +5
      April 18 2014 13: 56
      but where exactly near Kramatorsk is not written there? and here's an approximate course of events ..
      Yesterday, that is, on April 17, I go to work, 6 o'clock in the morning, I work for the old part of the city, there are 3 block posts next to one in the village of Ivanovka, the second on Pchelkino, the third in a different direction. In the evening at about 19:00 I look, and next to me, literally 150 meters from the place of work, tires are burning, followed by "bang!", "Fuck!" .. the sounds of sirens .. after half an hour I got free to see what was happening there ; there is no one at two checkpoints, the shiftman calls and asks what is happening there (i.e. nowhere else at this time in the city and its suburbs ...) I go today (April 18) from work 6 in the morning , I see how there were block posts with "separatists" at the entrance to the village of Ivanovka, Pchelkino, and they are still standing ... so who defeated whom, who had a successful operation - it's not clear winked
      1. avt
        +1
        April 18 2014 14: 49
        Quote: Vitaliy11
        but where exactly near Kramatorsk is not written there?

        request laughing That is what is not, that is not! They did not even write what equipment they towed, I think after the "battle" they dragged their stalled, well, what would the "separatists" not get.
        Quote: hawk
        The main symbol of events in Little Russia - tires, must necessarily go to the "state" awards of the self-proclaimed "power" for their "heroes"

        good Sure! There will be an oil painting - the hero maydaun was awarded the Order of the Burning Tire of the third degree. laughing
  21. Jimbim
    +6
    April 18 2014 12: 04
    "Defeated" !!! How loud it is! With unarmed only and can "fight" the lack of power of idiots ???
    1. 0
      April 18 2014 15: 58
      Quote: JimBim
      Crushed

      This means - swept fire barricade of tires.
  22. KOOSA
    -1
    April 18 2014 12: 04
    Guys explain to me. If the Crimean economy became Russian, then the GDP should grow. And they show that there will be zero growth.
    1. 0
      April 18 2014 13: 00
      Our chief accountant works out his 30 pieces of silver. Like, to no longer hold "referendums".
      Stalin's quote is not entirely appropriate: "It doesn't matter how they vote, it's important how they think ..." If you paraphrase it a little, you get something in the form of this: "It does not matter that the factories and all enterprises are working and loaded with orders, it is important that the president will have a financial report with big minuses on his table." Something like this.
  23. +7
    April 18 2014 12: 04

    hold on !! the main thing is to win, and there it will be easier !!!
  24. +5
    April 18 2014 12: 07
    Weekend is coming soon. A new wave of protests and gonialovo law-makers along the streets of cities in the southeast. When will the people defend their interests and expel all the bastard from their land? And then all the active actions they have only on weekends, and the rest of the time they sit in dead defense.
    1. +1
      April 18 2014 12: 30
      Quote: Alexander12
      Weekend is coming soon. A new wave of protests and gonialovo law-makers along the streets of cities in the southeast. When will the people defend their interests and expel all the bastard from their land? And then all the active actions they have only on weekends, and the rest of the time they sit in dead defense.

      The best defense is an attack. Drive banderlogs from the South East like mad dogs.
    2. Not angry
      +4
      April 18 2014 12: 48
      Quote: Alexander12
      Weekend is coming soon. A new wave of protests and gonialovo law-makers along the streets of cities in the southeast. When will the people defend their interests and expel all the bastard from their land? And then all the active actions they have only on weekends, and the rest of the time they sit in dead defense.


      children also need to be fed. they then proclaimed themselves a republic, but there is no leadership; they don’t know what to do next. and with the army and police misunderstandings. dug in the center and the parcels go where they want and crap.
  25. 0
    April 18 2014 12: 09
    as you want to believe http://dikoepole.net/archives/9189
    1. Not angry
      0
      April 18 2014 13: 04
      Quote: ururu
      as you want to believe http://dikoepole.net/archives/9189



      It is written beautifully. I want to believe. But I do not see the prerequisites. But probably they should not be visible until they begin to act. History will judge a look.
  26. Orc-xnumx
    +3
    April 18 2014 12: 11
    That is, Kiev immediately violated the Geneva Agreement, signed the day before! Judge the killers!
    1. 0
      April 18 2014 12: 15
      Did you doubt it? And who was to be judged - were they violated by those who signed these agreements? Beat yourself? As tovarisch Sukhov used to say: "Eit’s unlikely ..."
  27. +1
    April 18 2014 12: 11
    Here are the Bandera bastards that get up! And this is after only the signed agreements in Geneva.
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  29. +1
    April 18 2014 12: 14
    And here are some more messages from Reedus:
    "Despite the agreements reached, the Ukrainian government is not going to withdraw troops from the south-east of the country. "
    " Dnepropetrovsk leader of the "Right Sector" Dmitry Yarosh arrived in the building of the local regional state administration, where he talked with the governor Igor Kolomoysky"
    So - what arrangements, what a bright Easter holiday ...
    I won’t be surprised if the full-scale massacre at Easter begins - these Zhidomassons have nothing sacred!
  30. +17
    April 18 2014 12: 14
    Hang on guys, victory is the daughter of the strong and brave!
  31. alikalik
    +4
    April 18 2014 12: 15
    the contract has already been signed once in Kiev. So what? Only the Russian bayonet in this matter is an assistant and a guarantor.
    1. 0
      April 18 2014 14: 11
      And politeness)
  32. Vita_vko
    +8
    April 18 2014 12: 15
    Yes, all these Geneva accords for the Kiev authorities are like toilet paper. It is enough to recall the agreement of February 21 and hundreds of other laws and decrees which, like shit ... can spread throughout Ukraine. No one will ever negotiate with the weak and defenseless! This is the law of the existing world order. To make Kiev sit at the negotiating table, the South-East should better organize itself and begin real offensive operations to clean up its region. The second week of the siege has begun; attacks cannot be infinitely reflected in conditions of limited resources. It is imperative to deploy a response information-psychological operation, especially among the Ukrainian army and police. Then you can avoid unnecessary losses. Moreover, this can be done by any resident of the Southeast, the main thing is to organize and direct.
    1. +2
      April 18 2014 12: 30
      Quote: Vita_vko
      No one will ever negotiate with the weak and defenseless!

      That's right!
      But at the moment, only armed partisans will not decide the matter.
      There is a need for tens of thousands of people to enter the streets of the cities of Donbass and, in general, the Southeast.
      And then In Donesk some rally for united Ukraine is being held ...
      After all...
    2. Aleksandr65
      +1
      April 18 2014 13: 12
      Judging by your comment, you clearly know how to organize real offensives and inf-psycho-wars. So help PRACTICE brothers! Or don’t give advice ...
      1. Vita_vko
        +2
        April 18 2014 16: 54
        Quote: Aleksandr65
        So help PRACTICE brothers! Or don’t give advice ...

        Do not tell me what to do and I won’t tell you where to go.
        Each has its own war and its own front.
  33. +5
    April 18 2014 12: 17
    The junta does not even think of ending a crazy war with its people. And the meeting in Geneva is a tactical move by mattresses and the junta. Everything went on and will go on unchanged. Junta death penalty!
  34. 0
    April 18 2014 12: 24
    Attempt at writing. They begin with small settlements where there is less resistance, so there are not many troops!
  35. 0
    April 18 2014 12: 24
    A bee has a sting in zh.o.p.
    1. Old Cynic
      0
      April 18 2014 15: 17
      Only not Dmitry Anatolyevich, it will make things worse.
  36. +1
    April 18 2014 12: 25
    And meanwhile .... In the Sumy region they dig a ditch for the entire length of the border with Russia .... MARASM CREATES !!!
  37. +2
    April 18 2014 12: 29
    Yes, when already disperse these Bander .... ??????
    1. 0
      April 18 2014 13: 57
      When all the people of Ukraine will take up arms and rebel against the banderlogs and puppet government.
      1. 0
        April 18 2014 14: 06
        There is such a thing, that people who can rebel against the banderlogs and the puppet government do not have weapons. And nobody will give it to them. That is, to come to military depots and police stations and take it - it will not work, they will shoot everyone.
        1. coserg 2012
          0
          April 18 2014 15: 46
          So what’s the conclusion? And the police and army units behind (in your words) banderlogs and a puppet government. From this it follows that they have to start. Do they go home from service? So pick them up at your wife’s side. And then by their order and warehouses and gates will open like good morning. Yes, what I explain to you arithmetic ...
  38. +3
    April 18 2014 12: 29
    Again the thugs stirred, but where are the actions of the Donbass republic?
    1. Old Cynic
      0
      April 18 2014 15: 20
      And they, apparently, will not follow, judging by the information that I have from my mother and from my classmates from Donetsk. In words - all the eagles, but how it comes down to - "why, why" !!!

      Apparently, God forgive me, all the same, blood must be shed so that they really stand up for themselves, for relatives, for their lives ...
  39. +4
    April 18 2014 12: 32
    What kind of paratroopers are those who smash peaceful fathers, mothers, brothers and sisters?
    It is not otherwise punitive, invaders from a foreign country.
    Partisans must say their word!
    1. I am proud of Russia
      0
      April 18 2014 14: 30
      individ (1) SU Today, 12:32
      What kind of paratroopers are those who smash peaceful fathers, mothers, brothers and sisters?
      It is not otherwise punitive, invaders from a foreign country.
      Partisans must say their word!

      The fact of the matter is that there half of the people go to work, go quietly around the city, and someone stands on the barricades for them ... what is this job to go now? It is necessary to protect your land. The situation must be normalized, the Nazis, provocateurs calculated to ignore and everything will be restored.
  40. +1
    April 18 2014 12: 40
    A vacuum of information, generates rumors ... give nature ...
  41. shower
    0
    April 18 2014 12: 50
    Something I do not understand the outcome of the four-way meeting. Did we lose all the positions without a fight, or did the horse go a tricky move?
    1. +1
      April 18 2014 12: 50
      And is responsibility for non-compliance with the agreements provided?
      1. +1
        April 18 2014 13: 13
        Well, they ridiculed, although all this is sad. And you yourself know how to disrupt the contract and how you punished and whom you also know. Yes the junta lay with the device on all these arrangements,I just don’t understand why these agreements are necessary if they are not fulfilled. Maybe they want to twist the hands of Russia and those who rebelled.In order to then blame them for breaking the signed or something else.
      2. 0
        April 18 2014 13: 16
        Yes, administrative and criminal ... This is CONDOM, which will certainly break, and then - we are not to blame ...
    2. +1
      April 18 2014 13: 08
      So I wonder why this American secretary would say: ... we have achieved more than expected. But we don’t intend to stop
  42. 0
    April 18 2014 13: 00
    Such data require confirmation in other sources. I am most concerned about PMCs, they can easily play the role of provocateurs.
  43. +1
    April 18 2014 13: 00
    In the village of Sergeevka, Slavic district of Donetsk region, the Ukrainian military defeated the checkpoint of supporters of federalization of the country. Eyewitnesses report one dead however, this information has not yet been officially confirmed. (with)
  44. +21
    April 18 2014 13: 00
    Quote: Kornilovist
    Again the thugs stirred, but where are the actions of the Donbass republic?


    And she is ???? In Lugansk itself, right-hand people are quietly running around ukitsa and beating those who have St. George's ribbons, young people chanting "Get the willows", walking in droves under Ukrainian flags for a single ...

    I stupidly do not understand what in Donetsk does Lyashko do in the streets with a crowd of law-enforcement officers? What is a seizure of power? It seems to me more and more like some kind of parody and setup ...
    25 brigade ... yes there is 60 man only from all brigades, the rest are beaten up by the rebels .... Kharkov is no longer even mentioned ....

    Understand - a small part has taken to the streets in Donbass ... The rest are against ... In Kramatorsk it’s against, they’re yelling - what the hell are you doing, we put up with what we could not tolerate until the EU established the milk shores, put its own police and its fair laws?

    If Russia tries to send troops even to Donetsk, even to Lugansk region - by the moment all those who are sitting now in huts, and this 80% will rush to fight with the Russians ... At the same time, the Russians themselves ... I ask why? But on the couch - we do not want to be in your impoverished rashka ...

    This begs the question - why did our authorities turn a blind eye to unbridled anti-Russian propaganda in neighboring Ukraine for so many years, and often propaganda came from the top, from the ruling circles ....

    A simple Ukrainian knows that in Russia they pay more for gas than he (paid), and hell doesn’t want to understand that it was like a friendly offer ... And now they are offended by having selected a freebie ... And without exception, everyone sincerely thinks, and The media support them in this, that the growth of the hryvnia, the lack of goods in stores, the increase in prices and problems with salaries are the results of the machinations of a putler who made Russian slaves want to do the same from Ukrainians.
    Death to tyrant Putler, there is no slavery ... These are not the screams of 17 summer blockheads, so say 30-50 summer Ukrainians who consider themselves adequate ... Finish, it's time to drain the water.

    I already can’t even read those nonsense that you write here. Because young in age have not yet learned to compile the incoming information and look for the seeds of truth in it ...
    Put your cons.

    But this is an example of a blatant informational provocative war - http://dikoepole.net/archives/9189
    1. +3
      April 18 2014 14: 28
      I agree with you completely, and I’m sure that Putin will not enter the troops. You Ukrainians did not deserve help. Putin taught history well at school. After all, it was not for the beautiful eyes of your grandfathers that the Germans were released from captivity on parole. And yet ... I think that soon Yarosh will fulfill his threat against the gas pipeline. And that you will tell the poor rush to your wife in the kitchen when you want to boil tea ...
      1. I am proud of Russia
        +1
        April 18 2014 14: 40
        radar1967 SU Today, 14:28 PM ↑ New
        I agree with you completely, and I’m sure that Putin will not enter the troops. You Ukrainians did not deserve help. Putin taught history well at school. After all, it was not for the beautiful eyes of your grandfathers that the Germans were released from captivity on parole. And yet ... I think that soon Yarosh will fulfill his threat against the gas pipeline. And that you will tell the rush beggar to your wife in the kitchen when you want to boil tea.

        Agree with you. Only thanks to provocateurs and the junta keeps.
    2. +3
      April 18 2014 15: 57
      Wife from Donbass. She says the same thing. We got used to it for free. Who hissed "mustache zyily" in the 80s? I think there were fewer Westerners in Donetsk than workers in the socialist trade. How they lived, pee-pee. When in Rostov we had nothing but whale meat in the stores ... Of course, they were told about Europe that everything was there ... and for nothing. And now they reared up when the miner's freebie puffed up. They do not understand that Yanukovych is no longer there, and no one will feed. The economy will close the mines, they will not pull against the Kuznetsk workers with their costs. That's when they understand that in Europe it is necessary to work in a non-Russian way, even then maybe they will fight for their lives. Or maybe they won't. BB is right - no need to bring troops there. Let them grow wiser at first, let them build their own lives. Or maybe they will like Polish swineherds more than Donetsk miners.
  45. +1
    April 18 2014 13: 05
    The junta will definitely play out and wait for decisive action from Russia.
    I propose to send the People's Army of Donbass three tire compositions, preferably from Belaz.
  46. +2
    April 18 2014 13: 06
    You must first wait for confirmation of this information. Now you yourself know there is an information war (which Russia is losing unfortunately).
    Because, after yesterday’s meeting in the format of the four, at the end of which the State Department said that he had achieved more than he expected. And if you believe these mattresses who want to take the initiative on themselves, it turns out that Russia in general has failed.
    So let the people still wait for the official information.
    And if on the topic, then why did people take control of the admin building and give them something later?
    So after all, the junta can then declare victory and then shoot everyone in the forests and fields, because now they know a lot in the face and especially their families. And where are the prepared bases, where will their families live, etc., etc.
    But what about those who said that they would not leave this building that they would betray themselves and their beliefs?
  47. +3
    April 18 2014 13: 08
    Quote: ed65b
    Take a soldier to exchange for their leaders.

    The Kiev junta doesn’t give a damn about these soldiers - they are just consumables, you can’t touch people in any way!
  48. tnship2
    +7
    April 18 2014 13: 10
    What kind of guerrilla war? What kind of monk-lemon? Why are your brothers bleached too much? And on the one hand they speak Russian and on the other they speak Russian. They just don’t hear each other yet. You need to be patient. The economy will sober up these heads. A month or two enterprises will become a stake and then there will be no time before the war. Of course, Russia will support the East, and for the western regions of the EU and the USA it has prepared a complete scam. Patience and again patience. You can not be fought on a provocation.
    1. +2
      April 18 2014 13: 59
      Someone still doubts that the economy will become "because of the damned maskals and their slaves, the separatists"?
  49. Elle-elle
    +2
    April 18 2014 13: 13
    Quote: Horly
    Let me ask - where are both Yanukovych and Yakimenko now? That's right - in Russia! WHAT HELLO ???



    This question DOES NOT QUEST for several months to former voters of V.F.Yanukovych in the Donbass. Especially in conditions when people are pouring blood.
  50. Orc-xnumx
    +4
    April 18 2014 13: 16
    The website of the British BBC writes: NATO did not promise Putin not to move east! There is no faith in these discards!
    1. +4
      April 18 2014 13: 22
      Quote: Orc-78
      The website of the British BBC writes: NATO did not promise Putin not to move east!

      So GDP also promised nothing ...
  51. from 81
    +4
    April 18 2014 13: 17
    soldier we have fighting girls
    1. Old Cynic
      0
      April 18 2014 15: 30
      As far as I know, “raspberry vests” are part of the internal troops. The chevrons also confirm this. Or not?
      And if so, then these “flowers of life” have chosen as their profession the suppression of any protests by the people of their country. Or does BB have other tasks?
      Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation (Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia) are special military formations designed to ensure the internal security of the state, public safety, and protect the rights and freedoms of man and citizen from criminal and other unlawful attacks.
      - (c) Pedivicia
      The key word is "OTHER". Almost anything can be camouflaged under this...
      1. 0
        April 18 2014 15: 39
        Not everything, but only illegal encroachments.
        1. Old Cynic
          0
          April 18 2014 15: 42
          Don't tell the army ballet shoes, they don't have a good time anyway!
          Well, tell me whether the norms of the Laws of the Russian Federation include the concept of “other unlawful encroachments.”
          1. Old Cynic
            0
            April 18 2014 15: 45
            Should I remind you of Article 31 of the Constitution? Or will you read it yourself?
            1. 11111mail.ru
              0
              April 18 2014 18: 23
              Quote: Old Cynic
              Remind me of Article 31 of the Constitution? Or will you read it yourself?

              Of course, I re-read ten articles each night, by heart, and have another copy in the toilet. However, it helps the process!
  52. 0
    April 18 2014 13: 24
    Just a little more, the tanks are already running! Let's finish smoking there too!
  53. 0
    April 18 2014 13: 28
    Yeees! Trindet - don’t move bags! In Slavyansk, why are there no correspondents?
  54. 0
    April 18 2014 13: 29
    Did the paratroopers defeat you? I do not believe! Provocation!
  55. 0
    April 18 2014 13: 48
    the news is unreliable....this fact has not happened in the last XNUMX hours...the Ukrainian media are silent on this issue, which is uncharacteristic for them..
  56. +8
    April 18 2014 13: 51
    In the village of Sergeevka, Slavyansk district, Donetsk region, the Ukrainian military defeated a roadblock of supporters of the country's federalization.

    According to local media, citing eyewitnesses, people in military uniform appeared in the village, shooting is heard in the area of ​​the highway. It is also known that in the area of ​​the roadblock there was a fire, but its cause is currently unknown.


    Eyewitnesses also reported one dead, but officially this information has not yet been confirmed, reports "Interfax".

    On the eve, supporters of federalization in Slavyansk and Kramatorsk took control of local telecentres, which provide broadcasts to cities in the south-east of the country. Instead of Ukrainian TV channels, Russian ones are now on the air.

    On April 14, the 25 Brigade of the airborne troops stationed under Slavyansk moved to the side of the militia. Appointed by the Verkhovna Rada. President of Ukraine Oleksandr Turchynov threatened the court with the military who refused to fight against the civilian population.

    Around Kramatorsk and Slavyansk, Ukrainian troops continue to concentrate

    Dear Voshniki! The article is made of rumors! I will explain why.
    1) Sergeevka is a village in the southeast, located 15 km from Kramatorsk towards Dobropolye.
    2) No one grabbed the checkpoint. When trying to de-block a post from tires on the road, the latter were successfully set on fire. After that, the attackers were successfully blocked on the outskirts of the village by local residents. What is being done there right now, I won’t say for sure.
    3) There is definitely no death. At the entrance to Sergeevka, a local resident in camouflage (for the village quite ordinary clothes) was mistaken for a terrible separatist. Naturally, when he saw strangers with weapons, he tried to hide in the nearest landing and was shot, but he managed to get to the nearest houses.
    4) We were only glad if the 25-I brigade was deployed near Slavyansk, and not near Dnepropetrovsk.

    Respectfully, one of the peaceful separatists (terrorists, agents of the GRU, FSB), but simply a patriot of the heroic city of Slavyansk.
    1. -2
      April 18 2014 14: 01
      Then tell me how with theseм how are things going?


      And she is ???? In Lugansk itself, right-hand people are quietly running around ukitsa and beating those who have St. George's ribbons, young people chanting "Get the willows", walking in droves under Ukrainian flags for a single ...

      I stupidly do not understand what in Donetsk does Lyashko do in the streets with a crowd of law-enforcement officers? What is a seizure of power? It seems to me more and more like some kind of parody and setup ...
      25 brigade ... yes there is 60 man only from all brigades, the rest are beaten up by the rebels .... Kharkov is no longer even mentioned ....

      Understand - a small part has taken to the streets in Donbass ... The rest are against ... In Kramatorsk it’s against, they’re yelling - what the hell are you doing, we put up with what we could not tolerate until the EU established the milk shores, put its own police and its fair laws?

      If Russia tries to send troops even to Donetsk, even to Lugansk region - by the moment all those who are sitting now in huts, and this 80% will rush to fight with the Russians ... At the same time, the Russians themselves ... I ask why? But on the couch - we do not want to be in your impoverished rashka ...

      This begs the question - why did our authorities turn a blind eye to unbridled anti-Russian propaganda in neighboring Ukraine for so many years, and often propaganda came from the top, from the ruling circles ....

      A simple Ukrainian knows that in Russia they pay more for gas than he (paid), and hell doesn’t want to understand that it was like a friendly offer ... And now they are offended by having selected a freebie ... And without exception, everyone sincerely thinks, and The media support them in this, that the growth of the hryvnia, the lack of goods in stores, the increase in prices and problems with salaries are the results of the machinations of a putler who made Russian slaves want to do the same from Ukrainians.
      Death to tyrant Putler, there is no slavery ... These are not the screams of 17 summer blockheads, so say 30-50 summer Ukrainians who consider themselves adequate ... Finish, it's time to drain the water.

      I already can’t even read those nonsense that you write here. Because young in age have not yet learned to compile the incoming information and look for the seeds of truth in it ...
      Put your cons. Author: Santor hi
      1. 0
        April 18 2014 15: 01
        Well, if you think that living on 900 hryvnia is much more free and fun than living on 16 thousand rubles, then maybe everything you wrote above is true. By the way, I doubt that you will go somewhere, stand in a cordon for the night, or even more so poke your head into where the bullets are, and they kill, because there are more important things to do, work, family, even if Abrams is standing under your window. And that’s why you then you demand mass action.
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        2. 0
          April 18 2014 16: 04
          Not only do we not demand, but we also don’t want to get involved. When they understand that Abrams demolished the democratic fence, then we will sympathize.
  57. +2
    April 18 2014 13: 55
    Alarmism and resets are coming from both sides! It’s obvious that there is no normal self-defense! Complete partisanship for both of them! If self-defense is commanded by a sergeant! Don't expect victory! It is not yet known where he served? Maybe he was a bread slicer in the kitchen! The rebels have no coordination in their actions! Occupying a cultural center and hanging a flag is not a victory, but a declaration of intentions! Delitantism is everywhere! Moreover, from both sides! This is what is saving the rebel regions for now. But they are pursuing passive tactics, everyone sits in their hole and waits for the Russians to come! What if they don't come? The junta has room to maneuver! They'll poke their heads here and there! Thankfully everyone is a jerk! But if everything continues like this, then the Banderlogs will become bolder and then hold on!
    1. +5
      April 18 2014 14: 11
      Thankfully everyone is a jerk!
      And who is so brave in our country to throw stones at a grenade launcher from his own house, in which his wife and children are there?
      There are people who are ready to sacrifice their lives, but you have no right to demand that you sacrifice the lives of your families.
  58. 0
    April 18 2014 13: 58
    Quote: sop.ov
    1) Sergeevka is a village in the southeast, located 15 km from Kramatorsk towards Dobropolye.

    Damn, he peed himself - it's located in the southwest.
  59. russianskijbelarus
    0
    April 18 2014 14: 14
    Yesterday evening, they showed on TV how the current leadership appointed a commission to check the condition of air-raid shelters in Kyiv. The results of the inspection are disappointing: a lot of garbage and dirt...
    1. 0
      April 18 2014 15: 19
      That's when the Banderlogs and the Maidanists get in there - drain the entire sewer system of Kyiv to them...
  60. Sega 1945
    +1
    April 18 2014 14: 30
    We must respond to everyone who rushes, this is a guarantee of safety.
    And I don’t believe about 80% of the population against us. Donetsk, Lugansk region only Russians at 40% + not only Russians are on our side. The first guy to die was an Armenian - may he rest in peace - HEROES.
    1. Old Cynic
      0
      April 18 2014 15: 33
      Where was the first Armenian to die? If it’s on the Maidan, then we know it.
  61. Arh
    0
    April 18 2014 14: 36
    Eh, Ukrainian paratroopers, but what about the fascists, that’s not where you smashed the checkpoints!!!
    1. +1
      April 18 2014 15: 27
      Quote: Arh
      Eh, Ukrainian paratroopers, but what about the fascists, that’s not where you smashed the checkpoints!!!

      There are different versions of what happened online, for example this:
      Details of the evening “battle” near Kramatorsk: national. The guards took the prisoners to an unknown direction.

      Last night, many Ukrainian media outlets circulated victorious reports that Ukrainian paratroopers had destroyed a checkpoint near Slavyansk.

      “In the village of Sergeevka, Slavyansky district, Donetsk region, the Ukrainian military destroyed a checkpoint of supporters of the federalization of the country. There are wounded and killed on the federalist side.”

      For a long time there were conflicting data about what was happening. After 22:00 the situation in Sergeevka calmed down. It turned out that the assault happened by accident.

      In the morning, on the Dobropolye-Kramatorsk highway, which passes through Sergeevka, three armored vehicles of the Ukrainian army broke down at once. The military tried to repair them, tractors from the local collective farm came to help, and several BMDs were dragged by tractor to the territory of the tractor brigade's repair shop. Further information came down that the tractor driver who was pulling the airborne combat vehicle and the director of the collective farm, who was in the brigade, were allegedly taken hostage by unknown people who soon arrived at the workshop. At about 16:30, behind a tractor brigade in the fields, people saw an infantry fighting vehicle from which soldiers were firing flares. A helicopter from the Kramatorsk airfield arrived at the signals, made a couple of circles over the field and flew towards Dnepropetrovsk. About twenty minutes later he returned, accompanied by several more helicopters, one of them landed behind the hangar in the tractor brigade. Special forces in black uniforms jumped out of the helicopter and immediately opened fire, followed by two more helicopters from which numerous troops also landed. At the same time as the helicopters, two armored personnel carriers appeared near the workshops, as seen in the video, hung with masked soldiers. Judging by the modification of the armored personnel carrier and uniform, this was the first battalion of the National Guard, formed from militants of the Right Sector and the Maidan self-defense.

      Shooting began and local worker Vitaly Voronkov, who was wearing camouflage, was wounded. Then, at gunpoint, the national. The guard began to withdraw the paratroopers who were on the broken BMD; according to local residents, they are considered deserters. They were loaded into a helicopter, which immediately flew away. Their further fate is unknown. After this, the armored vehicles drove off towards Kramatorsk, and the remaining helicopters flew away, making a lot of noise.

      The victim, Vitaly Voronkov, said: “Two helicopters landed near the workshop where I work. Several guys ran out from there - specialists, it was immediately obvious. They burst into our workshop and put everyone on the floor. I was wearing camouflage, I failed to get into the field of view - they started shooting at me.” The bullets flew, hitting his ear, neck and shoulder blade. He was taken to the hospital by ambulance.

      As soon as the incident in Sergeevka became known in Kramatorsk, residents began to come out en masse to the barricades at the entrances to the city. They were ready to repel the invasion, rumors about which have been exciting the townspeople for the last few days.

      http://rusvesna.su/news
      1. +2
        April 18 2014 16: 23
        Quote: Corsair
        As soon as the incident in Sergeevka became known in Kramatorsk, residents began to come out en masse to the barricades at the entrances to the city. They were ready to repel the invasion, rumors about which have been exciting the townspeople for the last few days.


        But in my opinion, both the army and the so-called security forces have long since switched to the “Italian-style strike” method. Everyone seems to be moving, struggling, fighting... But in moderation. Those who are especially zealous are put on hold so that prices are not brought down. There are also ideologically minded strikebreakers, who are the worst kind of dirty tricks. But there are few of them.
  62. 0
    April 18 2014 14: 38
    Kolomoisky on the one hand....Akhmetov on the other....They will bargain, and Ukraine will happily merge towards the West.
    If it were not so, then I think we would have already seen the miners... but they are not there. The coal is chopped.
  63. +4
    April 18 2014 14: 47
    new disease in Ukraine
  64. 0
    April 18 2014 14: 52
    Quote: domokl
    It seems specially provoked to shoot ... They won’t understand now .. It's easier to shoot ... You need to check the info ...

    The Ukrainian press writes that the paratroopers allegedly came to recapture the armored vehicles from the “separatists.” Unverified information that the TV tower was recaptured and Russian TV channels were turned off.
    1. +1
      April 18 2014 15: 16
      No, they just disrupted the power supply. Restored.
  65. +2
    April 18 2014 14: 53
    The East needs to stand very firmly on its feet or the West will bring them to their knees. In the event of an open confrontation, Russia must react harshly to this, even to the point of sending a limited contingent of troops into the territory of eastern Ukraine. As I understand it, the agreements that were reached yesterday in Geneva, in principle, are not a decree for these drug pederasts. They don’t let our polite men in green uniforms, but we also have such military personnel who can ride a galloping horse... and into a burning hut ... and with a Kalashnikov assault rifle they do this, it’s already scary for you banderlogs.
    1. +3
      April 18 2014 15: 08
      Quote: capex1
      and we also have such military personnel who are galloping horses...

      Yes-ah-ah... The size of the “body armor” is all right there... Not lower than the 3rd “protection class”... wassat
  66. +2
    April 18 2014 15: 13
    At night in Izyum, where the security forces are headquartered, they patrolled a little and hung up the Russian flag... smile
  67. 0
    April 18 2014 15: 36
    Quote: tnship2
    What kind of guerrilla war? What kind of monk-lemon? Why are your brothers bleached too much? And on the one hand they speak Russian and on the other they speak Russian. They just don’t hear each other yet. You need to be patient. The economy will sober up these heads. A month or two enterprises will become a stake and then there will be no time before the war. Of course, Russia will support the East, and for the western regions of the EU and the USA it has prepared a complete scam. Patience and again patience. You can not be fought on a provocation.

    It’s interesting, how will Russia support the South-East? If only quietly? But they don’t think it’s any other way, the Westerners, just as they sucked blood, they will continue to suck blood from the East.
  68. Oml
    +1
    April 18 2014 15: 37
    Supporters of federalization clearly lack discipline and intelligent commanders.
    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. +2
      April 18 2014 16: 14
      They don't have enough anger. So far they are deciding:
      1. maybe it’s better in Europe?
      2. maybe Russia will come and do everything? And then we will also become heroes?
      You can't get in there yet.
      1. +1
        April 18 2014 18: 17
        That’s what I’m talking about... People don’t have anger, they behave: “like dear ones scolding - they’re just having fun.” No matter how it turns out, AS ALWAYS WITH THE RUSSIANS, we will come, liberate, rebuild, and in a couple of years... again “OCCUPIERS WE DIDN’T CALL YOU HERE”!
  69. +3
    April 18 2014 15: 55
    Interview with a paratrooper who switched to self-defense...
    True, he speaks a little confusingly, but nothing...
  70. mariku
    +1
    April 18 2014 16: 05
    Cleaning up is a word.
    What does it mean to destroy by force?
    Those who are unwanted do not give up,
    They must be killed like flies.
    Who gave the right to kill
    And shoot at your own people?!
    Who shoots, kills,
    People won't forgive them.
    God's punishment awaits those
    Who gives the orders?
    After all, they, like everyone else,
    Mom lives there somewhere.
    God gave life to man
    God will take you to another world too.
    God will not forgive you fascism.
    Kara will find you soon.
    17.04.2014g.
    Simferopol
    Marina Kudryashova
    Don't give up, brothers! You are fighting for a just cause, for your children, mothers. Crimea is with you!
    The Lord will help you. You will win! Neither God nor people will forgive the fascists.
  71. +1
    April 18 2014 16: 11
    The Bolsheviks had a whim to give land to just anyone, so it backfired.
  72. 0
    April 18 2014 16: 16
    Quote: stalkerwalker
    Quote: Orc-78
    The website of the British BBC writes: NATO did not promise Putin not to move east!

    So GDP also promised nothing ...


    How so? Yesterday on a direct line he promised to STOCK everyone! And he urged no one to be afraid! good
  73. +1
    April 18 2014 16: 17
    HOLY SHIT, I read the comments and realized that at least every second person on the site fought in the Kavpak detachment. What kind of Portisan war are you talking about? Taldonete - the basis of the militias are hard workers who have forgotten how to hold a machine gun in their hands. You might ask if there is someone on the site from Slavyansk, the militia has at least fired the available weapons or not. In the depths of their souls, people hope that everything will end on its own, hence such inertia. How can you surround a column of military equipment, scold it and let it go? It’s difficult for them, first of all, because they don’t really have the mood for battle. These are mostly peasants and they will fight only because they are able to, they will be able to attack, they will attack, or no, they will use defensive tactics.
  74. 0
    April 18 2014 16: 25
    My minus. Whose words are you talking about the Bolsheviks? Or are there security officers hiding under your bed? Don't be Novodvorskaya. They lifted a shattered country into space, and in a decade and a half they built an industry for Victory. And every word against them and Stalin is a word for Hitler and the Nazis. And democracy is a technique to paralyze our resistance. This is why democracy and freedom of speech are flourishing in the USA.
    1. 0
      April 18 2014 16: 45
      So right away for Hitler. Not from anyone’s words, dear, I simply admit the fact that if Donbass were part of the Russian Federation, such a situation would not have arisen now.
      1. +1
        April 18 2014 17: 03
        I agree with Donbass, but I ask you to think about Hitler. The feat of the Soviet people is gradually being obscured by “bloody KGB,” “barrier detachments,” etc. Without the bloodthirsty special officer, the film is about war and non-format, and the Germans are either outright humanists or weak-willed, whom one feels sorry for. And what remains in the memory is not the mountains of corpses, ours and Germans, up to the 3rd floor in Stalingrad, but the atrocities of the commissars. And Zhukov filled the Germans with corpses.
        My grandfather told me. The Germans were breaking out of the emerging encirclement near Lake Vyrts-Jarv (the hot uh... guys will howl in a minute - probably there are not enough letters). There are already piles of corpses, and they are still climbing. The British made good machine guns - not one jammed, they fired without a break for two days. (The British - my grandfather fought in Matylda). Did Zhukov command them too? And my grandfather told a lot more, but there were no special officers there. Mostly the corpses of Germans and ours. A muddy wave of lies or exaggerations against our history is also a war. It's too bad you can't see it.
  75. +3
    April 18 2014 16: 31
    Guys, Lavrov has already “dumped” the entire Western elite. They still don't understand what they've decided laughing Full brakes!

    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/675/ojhk522.jpg
  76. Alexandr0id
    -6
    April 18 2014 16: 39
    What kind of madhouse, what kind of partisanship are you calling for here? completely crazy? My sister lives in Gorlovka, I somehow don’t like at all that this clownery with machine guns and masks on their faces is happening there. Who knows what these activists on both sides have in mind.
    In the end, Hitler didn’t come there and everyone was locked up in concentration camps, it was just some oligarchs who pushed others away from power. all these right-wing sectors are just pawns, no one will let them into power, enough screaming about fascists.
    there is no real reason, other than emotions, to fight and partisan
    1. 0
      April 18 2014 18: 58
      Here he is - a UKRAINIAN WHO NEEDS TO BE RELEASED. They really need to go to the European Union /A little train for Klitschko.... toot-too-too!/
      1. Alexandr0id
        0
        April 18 2014 21: 28
        Why did you register me as a Ukrainian? and my cousin sister in Gorlovka is not Ukrainian, and doesn’t even speak Ukrainian. But I actually live in Murmansk and go to the European Union not by steam locomotive, but by car - I’m not far from here (at least I have an idea about the EU, unlike many Europhobes).
        so it’s better to go empty your rectum, otherwise the excess of unnecessary things interferes with living in peace and pushes you to heroic deeds.
        1. 0
          April 19 2014 06: 04
          Sorry, comrade, I didn’t mean to offend. Understand that people are different and everyone solves problems in their own way. For example, when they see an aggressive, strong man, a woman and a man think differently:

          The woman thinks: If only I could conceive a child from him...
          The warrior thinks: A great opportunity to fight with impunity and for free, to show everyone what I can do.
          The peasant thinks: If only they didn’t fight in my beds...
          The prostitute thinks: Oops! There are money! A great opportunity to suck and earn money

          So make up your mind and don’t push the peasant’s worldview on a military website
          there are other great sites. Gospel, Peace to your house. etc.. The main thing is that the Chechens did not read your comments. They cannot have peasants advising soldiers on anything. But with us Russians, anything is possible. Wet as you wish. We will endure.
          1. Alexandr0id
            +1
            April 19 2014 13: 56
            Nevermind. I'm sorry too.
            my idea is that nothing happened to shoot each other, just some clans won (temporarily), others lost. But why should ordinary people kill each other, they have never seen this money and property and will never see it.
            in order to join the partisans you need a much more compelling reason - there is none here.
    2. 0
      April 18 2014 20: 27
      If your sister is While still If it hasn’t touched you, that doesn’t mean it won’t touch you very soon. Do you think that if the “partisanship” is stopped, then the guys from the right sector and the national guard will suddenly see the light, wiser up, go home, realize that they need to work instead of killing separatists and grabbing their girls?
      1. Alexandr0id
        -1
        April 18 2014 21: 34
        if partisanship is stopped, then the guys from the right sector will sit in their lviv and show off there. and if you maintain this hysteria, then everyone will definitely shoot each other without any reason.
        we need to calm the hot heads on both sides and sit down to negotiate; there are no unsolvable issues.
  77. +1
    April 18 2014 17: 01
    Quote: sop.ov
    Dear Voshniki! The article is made of rumors! I will explain why.
    1) Sergeevka is a village in the southeast, located 15 km from Kramatorsk towards Dobropolye.
    2) No one grabbed the checkpoint. When trying to de-block a post from tires on the road, the latter were successfully set on fire. After that, the attackers were successfully blocked on the outskirts of the village by local residents. What is being done there right now, I won’t say for sure.
    3) There is definitely no death. At the entrance to Sergeevka, a local resident in camouflage (for the village quite ordinary clothes) was mistaken for a terrible separatist. Naturally, when he saw strangers with weapons, he tried to hide in the nearest landing and was shot, but he managed to get to the nearest houses.
    4) We were only glad if the 25-I brigade was deployed near Slavyansk, and not near Dnepropetrovsk.

    Respectfully, one of the peaceful separatists (terrorists, agents of the GRU, FSB), but simply a patriot of the heroic city of Slavyansk.

    The latest news on this incident told by the direct participant.
    Yesterday he was with relatives in Sergeevka. On Wednesday, on the outskirts of the village, a group of paratroopers of the 25th brigade on the BMD was stationed, whom the command sent into the unknown and who were fed by local "separatists" out of pity. At about 17.00, shooting began for the reason I described above. Seeing a crowd of local residents, unmarked servicemen, who arrived in 6 armored personnel carriers, turned around and rushed in the direction of the paratroopers with fright. Seeing the landing equipment, they probably thought that these were the BMDs that were previously captured by the "separatists" and opened fire on them. Those in response, respectively, too. The locals who came to the rescue, seeing that their boys were shooting, threw the last armored personnel carrier with Molotov cocktails (they poured them on the go, did not prepare anything in advance). The attackers, you see, realized that they were rushed through the field in the direction of their advancement, followed by 2 BMDs.
    The acquaintance did not see the end of the battle, because great burned his hand and went to Kramatorsk. In the afternoon he called his relatives, they answered that there were no casualties and wounded among the paratroopers. With attackers that - hz
    1. -1
      April 18 2014 19: 00
      Quote: sop.ov
      The acquaintance did not see the end of the battle, because great burned his hand and went to Kramatorsk. In the afternoon he called his relatives, they answered that there were no casualties and wounded among the paratroopers. With attackers that - hz

      Yes, I see you as Elusive Joe, here and there. You seem to be everywhere, seemingly nowhere. Either you watch, or throw Hammers, you seriously burned your hand. If you are such an active fighter and in the thick of things, you manage to find time and write comments. Here you need to think. Have you tried filming everything you say?
  78. 0
    April 18 2014 17: 20
    Yesterday I got acquainted with the Geneva agreements, and... I agreed not in favor of my Lavrovs. I hope for Putin - he is a good strategist. But the thesis about the disarmament of illegal formations without reference to the Nazi guard is the recognition of the legality of their use against OURS! This feeling arose about how Libya is being treated. I would like to believe that I did not understand something, that this is the tip of the iceberg, that all information is not disclosed, that this does not obligate anyone... But what was made public is clearly not in favor of YUVU.
    1. 0
      April 18 2014 19: 07
      Quote: samoletil18
      Lavrov made an agreement not in favor of his own people. I hope for Putin - he is a good strategist.

      Do you think Lavrov acted without the consent of Putin? This generally doesn’t happen. The Minister of Foreign Affairs always says what the president demands. This is the fate of diplomats. Self-dealing in this matter is excluded.

      Quote: samoletil18
      But the thesis about the disarmament of illegal formations without reference to the Nazi guard is the recognition of the legality of their use against OURS!


      Illegal armed groups are armed groups that do not have a legislative basis. They are not provided for by law. The Verkhovna Rada is considered a legitimate structure. (The laws they adopted are the subject of another dispute). The Rada adopted the law on the creation of the National Guard. And whoever entered it is already considered a legitimate armed structure It was created in order to legitimize those armed groups that fell under the heading of illegal armed groups. That’s all the fuss.
  79. +1
    April 18 2014 17: 56
    Quote: sv68
    Maybe on the site there is someone from Slavyansk, the militia, the available weapons have at least been shot or not.

    I am a resident of this peaceful city, the weapons are normal, but they are not enough, but there are enough trained people
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      April 18 2014 18: 12
      Quote: sop.ov
      Quote: sv68
      Maybe on the site there is someone from Slavyansk, the militia, the available weapons have at least been shot or not.

      I am a resident of this peaceful city, the weapons are normal, but they are not enough, but there are enough trained people
      Good luck! With all my heart I am with you. Well, of course, so that everything works out without losses on your part.
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        April 18 2014 19: 08
        Quote: samoletil18
        Good luck! With all my heart I am with you. Well, of course, so that everything works out without losses on your part.

        This does not happen during an armed conflict. I wish them that it does not lead to bloodshed.
  80. wol.volkoff
    +1
    April 18 2014 20: 04
    Quote: Russ69
    Interview with a paratrooper who switched to self-defense...
    True, he speaks a little confusingly, but nothing...

    It’s just a pity that there are few such guys, the rest are running away.
    1. 0
      April 18 2014 20: 19
      Yeah! Whoever is not wearing a mask is not jumping laughing Let them figure out for themselves who is who and what they cost. Ukraine may be a circus, but it is not a coliseum. It’s still a long way from fifty-fifty to unanimity.
  81. +6
    April 18 2014 21: 02
    and about. President of Ukraine Alexander Turchynov threatened to sue the military
    I wonder what this pseudo-president of former pseudo-priests has to do with the military tribunal? He didn’t serve in the army himself, he came to power at the behest of Uncle Sam, and he’s not all that smart either, thank God...
  82. 0
    April 19 2014 04: 26
    Quote: Santor
    Quote: Kornilovist
    Again the thugs stirred, but where are the actions of the Donbass republic?


    And she is ???? In Lugansk itself, right-hand people are quietly running around ukitsa and beating those who have St. George's ribbons, young people chanting "Get the willows", walking in droves under Ukrainian flags for a single ...

    I stupidly do not understand what in Donetsk does Lyashko do in the streets with a crowd of law-enforcement officers? What is a seizure of power? It seems to me more and more like some kind of parody and setup ...
    25 brigade ... yes there is 60 man only from all brigades, the rest are beaten up by the rebels .... Kharkov is no longer even mentioned ....

    Understand - a small part has taken to the streets in Donbass ... The rest are against ... In Kramatorsk it’s against, they’re yelling - what the hell are you doing, we put up with what we could not tolerate until the EU established the milk shores, put its own police and its fair laws?

    If Russia tries to send troops even to Donetsk, even to Lugansk region - by the moment all those who are sitting now in huts, and this 80% will rush to fight with the Russians ... At the same time, the Russians themselves ... I ask why? But on the couch - we do not want to be in your impoverished rashka ...

    This begs the question - why did our authorities turn a blind eye to unbridled anti-Russian propaganda in neighboring Ukraine for so many years, and often propaganda came from the top, from the ruling circles ....

    A simple Ukrainian knows that in Russia they pay more for gas than he (paid), and hell doesn’t want to understand that it was like a friendly offer ... And now they are offended by having selected a freebie ... And without exception, everyone sincerely thinks, and The media support them in this, that the growth of the hryvnia, the lack of goods in stores, the increase in prices and problems with salaries are the results of the machinations of a putler who made Russian slaves want to do the same from Ukrainians.
    Death to tyrant Putler, there is no slavery ... These are not the screams of 17 summer blockheads, so say 30-50 summer Ukrainians who consider themselves adequate ... Finish, it's time to drain the water.

    I already can’t even read those nonsense that you write here. Because young in age have not yet learned to compile the incoming information and look for the seeds of truth in it ...
    Put your cons.

    But this is an example of a blatant informational provocative war - http://dikoepole.net/archives/9189

    There will be no input, I already wrote about this. You are right about the South-East. Let the milky banks and jelly rivers await. Our job is to calmly take care of our economy, improve the standard of living, and let those who like freebies look at Georgia. We now buy wine there and ensure production growth there. But at first the geyropa promised to buy up all of Khvanchkara. And what? Didn't repurchase. It will be the same with lard in chocolate. Only we ourselves know how to salt and smoke this lard. Just right for vodka. But people in general are terribly afraid of cholesterol hi