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NATO sends five ships to the Baltic Sea after promising to give Russia a response

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NATO sends five ships to the Baltic Sea after promising to give Russia a response



NATO is directing parts of its naval rapid response forces to the Baltic Sea to strengthen the defense of its Eastern European allies in connection with the Ukrainian crisis. As specifies Reuters, citing the press secretary of the Alliance Maritime Command, four minesweepers and one support vessel will go "in the foreseeable future." The group will consist of ships from Norway, the Netherlands, Belgium and Estonia.

It clarifies the Voice of America, the Alliance seeks not to exacerbate the situation in Ukraine, but to “demonstrate solidarity” and increase NATO’s combat readiness. The representative of the maritime command stressed that the North Atlantic bloc does not want to get involved in military actions in Ukraine, which is not part of the Alliance.

Currently, the ships are in the German port of Kiel. Next month, they are scheduled to exercise and work on the detection and deactivation of mines and torpedoes since the two world wars.

Earlier, representatives of the Alliance reported that the number of fighters patrolling the airspace over the Baltic will be tripled. As Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper reported on Thursday, six CF-18 fighters will be sent to Poland from this country. In addition, 20 Canadian officers will go to NATO headquarters in Brussels.

Harper explained this decision with a response to "expansionism and militarism" on the part of Russia. "I think this is a long-term, serious threat to international stability and security, and we are always ready to work with our NATO allies," said a Canadian politician.

It clarifies the Global News, fighters will serve along with the aircraft of the United States, Britain, Denmark, Poland, Portugal and Germany.

Also in Poland by the end of the year, the presence of the US military will be strengthened. According to Stars and Stripes, this was promised by the US Secretary of Defense Chuck Heigl "alarmed by the Russian aggression in the neighboring country". It is reported that in addition to reconnaissance aircraft and ground units, border control forces may be added. The United States can also send medical equipment, helmets and water treatment systems to Poland.

Recall that a meeting of the NATO Council was held yesterday in Brussels, in which the ambassadors of 28 countries took part. As NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said at the conclusion of the meeting, "NATO Allies will take steps to strengthen our combat readiness, expand training and maneuvers. Our defense plans will be strengthened and revised." The head of the Alliance explained that now there will be "more planes in the air, more ships on the water and more readiness on the ground." But the decision to build a base in the Baltic was not made.
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  1. ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 April 18 2014 05: 21
    +7
    Pind @ sky armada,
    And their servants from NATO
    Russia surrounded
    From almost all sides ....
    1. asar
      asar April 18 2014 06: 51
      +5
      We were already "surrounded" in the recent past! Yes, only we did not "bent"!
      1. Sakhalininsk
        Sakhalininsk April 18 2014 06: 56
        +9
        My heart feels that the SU-24 that caused diarrhea in the Black Sea will have a wonderful opportunity to practice over the waves of the Baltic.
        True, the question remained: what kind of Chukhnia will put up for a combat pie with horse-drawn divers on board?
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 18 2014 07: 06
          0
          Quote: Sakhalininets
          Feels my heart

          America will see the Russian Poplars over Washington.
          1. kapral14091975
            kapral14091975 April 18 2014 08: 57
            +3
            WHEN TOPOLA FLOWERS THEIR ALLERGY WILL TURN OUT
          2. kapral14091975
            kapral14091975 April 18 2014 08: 57
            0
            WHEN TOPOLA FLOWERS THEIR ALLERGY WILL TURN OUT
          3. Sirocco
            Sirocco April 18 2014 09: 49
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            America will see the Russian Poplars over Washington.

            Sasha, you don’t know how things are in the neutral waters of the United States? I think that seedlings of these valuable species are already under the shores of the hegemon))))
            1. Berkut-UA
              Berkut-UA April 19 2014 04: 11
              0
              Quote: Sirocco
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              America will see the Russian Poplars over Washington.

              Sasha, you don’t know how things are in the neutral waters of the United States? I think that seedlings of these valuable species are already under the shores of the hegemon))))

              You mean
              to plant Russian Poplar trees in Cuba?

              In the same numbers as 52 years ago?
        2. 77bob1973
          77bob1973 April 18 2014 09: 04
          +1
          In the Baltics, the Su-24 alone will not get rid of; it is necessary to work out NATO ships as part of the squadron.
          1. Mhpv
            Mhpv April 18 2014 09: 50
            +1
            Wow, Kozhugetovich, how many targets. Looks like we will soon begin to carry out exercises after exercises, while NATO provides such an opportunity, in different regimes.
          2. Berkut-UA
            Berkut-UA April 19 2014 04: 20
            0
            You can imagine - who wants to swim in such a sea?

            Now - one ship - one plane and all the beaches of Romania are closed to clear of American surprise.
            And what if five ships and a squadron? That is, 2 planes per ship ... this is not only all the beaches of the Baltic States will need to be cleaned lol
        3. Little Muck
          Little Muck April 18 2014 10: 35
          +1
          Quote: Sakhalininets
          My heart feels that the SU-24 that caused diarrhea in the Black Sea will have a wonderful opportunity to practice over the waves of the Baltic.

          And the Baltic, too, was also a theater of operations in the Second World War. repeat
          And who knows how many mines are left in the waters that are looking for their prey.
          So "having become blind" and "deaf", from "Khibiny" you can visually receive greetings from the past. We wish them a quick meeting. laughing
        4. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa April 18 2014 21: 24
          +4
          Quote: Sakhalininets
          causing diarrhea in the Black Sea, the SU-24 will have a wonderful opportunity to practice over the waves of the Baltic.
          Good evening, Sergey! I read the comments and immediately remembered the case of flying over the "Peter" with two Swedish "Vigens".
          And it was like this. Peter left St. Petersburg and, accompanied by the "Pylky", slowly, under diesel engines, drifted towards the pouring zone, heading for his permanent base - the Northern Fleet. I. Kasatonov, the senior deputy of the Navy's Main Command, was peacefully writing his memoirs, and suddenly the roar of jet engines overboard. And so for about 20 minutes. The shoal got tired of it, he took off the "pacifier" and sent it to the commander via the GSK so that he would calm the Swedes. In less than 2 minutes, Wiggen, who was going to the ship, did not come out of his dive. There are no such "coincidences" in nature. After the incident, "Peter" exploded with 30 knots according to the transition plan, "Pylky" remained at the crash site and provided assistance in finding the pilot. Found only one flying boot. Then our military men whispered for a long time in the corners about some product "306". But the guys from the office quickly put an end to these conversations. So, Baltica was the first to open an account for overzealous Swedes. True, the aviators attribute this loss to Mr. Bobkov's Be-12. ("From the deck of" Peter the Great "they watched the maneuvers of aircraft in the immediate vicinity. But for some reason after the incident the captain's bridge of the cruiser did not respond to requests from the Be-10 for 12 minutes ..." And why would that be ??? ??
          http://aviaforum.ru/showthread.php?t=38623
  2. svetlomor
    svetlomor April 18 2014 05: 23
    +18
    Instead of just burning diesel fuel, they would give it to Ukraine for sowing, or Russia would pay for gas.
    1. Weniamin
      Weniamin April 18 2014 06: 45
      +8
      Yeah right now. They do not need a strong Ukraine, they need a weak Russia. angry
      1. svetlomor
        svetlomor April 18 2014 06: 51
        +1
        Quote: Weniamin
        They do not need a strong Ukraine, they need a weak Russia.

        From the fact that these 5 troughs in the sea hang out Russia will not become weaker, again they will check their defense systems.
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov April 18 2014 07: 07
        +2
        Quote: Weniamin
        they need a weak Russia.

        Late already, 90s passed.
    2. Vedmed_23
      Vedmed_23 April 18 2014 09: 36
      +1
      I'm going to drown myself. ETOGES need SUCH an armada, as many as four aircraft carriers, you got a tfu, TRAILER, I'm already in shock. Clowns are stupid.
  3. W1950
    W1950 April 18 2014 05: 24
    +2
    Feel free, as many as five troughs. Everything, I bury myself in the ground with a fright. Or maybe they bring diapers to their Baltic colleagues?
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa April 18 2014 21: 44
      +2
      Quote: W1950
      . Or maybe they bring diapers to their Baltic colleagues?
      Yes, I thought so, having read about the generosity of American help to the Poles.
      The USA can also send Poland medical equipment, helmets and water purification systems.

      In general, something recently they have become very generous to help. Instead of equipment, dry-packs were sent to the Maydauns, the expiration date of which is coming out this year. (Know our generosity! Mankind)
  4. Lantau
    Lantau April 18 2014 05: 25
    +11
    The group will consist of ships from Norway, the Netherlands, Belgium and Of Estonia.


    And what does Estonia exhibit? Is it really an inflatable boat?
    1. Ilja 22
      Ilja 22 April 18 2014 06: 25
      +8
      Yes, while they pump it up, all the exercises will end laughing
    2. gispanec
      gispanec April 18 2014 06: 28
      +4
      Quote: Lantau
      And what does Estonia exhibit? Is it really an inflatable boat?

      do not make fun .... they have a real Yaroslavl ..... with a machine gun .....))))))
      1. Lantau
        Lantau April 18 2014 06: 38
        0
        Quote: gispanec
        Quote: Lantau
        And what does Estonia exhibit? Is it really an inflatable boat?

        do not make fun .... they have a real Yaroslavl ..... with a machine gun .....))))))

        Well, if with a machine gun, then there is something to fear laughing Here you are right!
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      3. Turkir
        Turkir April 18 2014 09: 28
        +2
        The Estonian machine gun, a terrible thing, shoots foul Latvian sprats.
        One hit and death. You can’t wash off the outfit.
        Do not underestimate the enemy.
    3. Humpty
      Humpty April 18 2014 06: 36
      +14
      Quote: Lantau

      And what does Estonia exhibit? Is it really an inflatable boat?


      The Estonian fleet sounds proudly.
      1. asar
        asar April 18 2014 06: 53
        0
        Well, everything, seeing such "power" of the Estonian Navy, we only have to surrender! laughing
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa April 18 2014 22: 20
          +3
          Quote: asar
          Well, everything, seeing such "power" of the Estonian Navy, we just have to surrender!
          You are right, bantering over the Estonian fleet. But she is a member of NATO, which means that the basing system is at the disposal of the alliance. Now look at the map (you can use the globe) how many kilometers are to St. Petersburg. How many CRBD will fly to the second capital? Yes, we will then dust them, but the Axes will have to be caught in an adult way ...
          So the value of each satellite is determined by what it can put in the Alliance's piggy bank. Estonia at our borders is also an airfield network against the North-West Military District. It is also a ready staging area for an invasion ... So for the States the Chukhonts are of great value, so they "dance" them.
    4. Ptah
      Ptah April 18 2014 06: 49
      +12
      It is not good to speak of sailors in general.
      Believe me, their share is not as enviable as it seems.
      Especially since the Estonian Navy RAFT There are many mysteries.
      Have not yet submitted the ATOMIC HOLE.

      The command ship is ready and waiting for the team.
    5. Skipper2050
      Skipper2050 April 18 2014 09: 30
      0
      Floating "RAFik" with a water cannon
    6. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa April 18 2014 21: 54
      +1
      Quote: Lantau
      And what does Estonia exhibit?

      Moorings (basing system) and supplies in the form of the former Tallinn Navy. And as part of the Navy, there are three former English minesweeper-seekers such as "Sandown". From them, you can create a normal CTG.
  5. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat April 18 2014 05: 33
    +2
    Well let them swim ....
    1. svetlomor
      svetlomor April 18 2014 05: 56
      +5
      Quote: ShadowCat
      Well let them swim ....

      Actually they go, but let them swim.
      1. spech
        spech April 18 2014 06: 56
        +4
        Actually they go, but let them swim.

        so these go, but only for themselves laughing
      2. Sakhalininsk
        Sakhalininsk April 18 2014 06: 58
        +3
        Quote: svetlomor
        Actually go


        These swim exclusively ... for - it doesn’t go around smile
      3. Shadowcat
        Shadowcat April 18 2014 09: 50
        0
        Ships go by sea, and these sail soldier
  6. ambiorix
    ambiorix April 18 2014 05: 36
    +6
    Does the Baltic Fleet have Dryers with a new EW system?
    We are waiting for new reports of the brave NATO sailors
  7. Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov April 18 2014 05: 39
    +1
    Strange, do the borders of Ukraine go to the Baltic Sea?
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa April 18 2014 22: 23
      +2
      Quote: Ivan Tarasov
      Strange, do the borders of Ukraine go to the Baltic Sea?

      Well you give! Take a closer look at the GLOBE OF UKRAINE!
  8. Bobxnumx
    Bobxnumx April 18 2014 05: 45
    +3
    This is the United States and NATO are a threat to the whole world.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa April 18 2014 22: 30
      +1
      Quote: Bob0859
      This is the United States and NATO are a threat to the whole world.

      The whole world is undoubtedly important ... But Russia is dearer and closer to me. The "ring of the anaconda" is not a political fiction. Here is its visual embodiment:
  9. sergey72
    sergey72 April 18 2014 05: 52
    +2
    I don’t understand something .... will they intimidate us with minesweepers? belay .....in foreseeable future....? fool
    1. Turkir
      Turkir April 18 2014 09: 25
      0
      Minesweepers will demonstrate the power and assistance of the USA to the Balts.
      They are larger than sprat trawlers.
  10. lozh76
    lozh76 April 18 2014 05: 56
    +2
    You’ve got so much dough during the war that has swelled and broken off everywhere, and here Russia has such a bonus in the form of Crimea for free in the form of Crimea ABIDNA YES?
  11. esmiralda
    esmiralda April 18 2014 06: 01
    0
    NATO sends five ships to the Baltic Sea, let them drop in, the main thing is that they would not go under politely flying dryers
  12. IGS
    IGS April 18 2014 06: 03
    +2
    It began ... Why in the Baltic? Ahhh, got it! I don’t have so much at once to the Black Sea, the straits are narrow, and when our drying arrives, what a traffic jam will be drawn at the exit fellow big, noisy and ... smelling bad wassat
  13. Sharky
    Sharky April 18 2014 06: 07
    +3
    Hello! Here I thought, what if ... take advantage of the natural situation in the United States! There, just Yellowstone volcano (Yellow Stone) is gaining strength ... Well, who knows what is hidden in the bowels of the Earth. It smells like that! The exclusion zone will turn out to be big ... We must use the situation . Throw the heat, so to speak, at the moment of confusion with the Boreev! There then there will be no one to arrange an investigation ... Well, the volcano "spat" the bowels of the bowels towards the Pentagon and other important strategic objects! Well, stones (funnels) fell ... well, there is a radiation background ... Well, all kinds of isotopes in the Earth were apparently + American nuclear waste was scattered across the territory! It will take 30-40 years and nature will recover, the background radiation will decrease ... It will be possible to distribute the territory to those in need.
    It’s possible to stimulate a volcano: I recall a famous video from the Internet about Zhirinovsky: “Our scientists will slightly rotate the Earth’s magnetic field ...”. So the volcano will sing suddenly!
    And European countries gently hint that there are volcanoes in Europe that can suddenly wake up.
    Say: "It's not fair, stealthily!" Well: “To live with wolves - howl like a wolf” !!!
    It’s such a joke of course, but in every joke ...
    1. Ptah
      Ptah April 18 2014 06: 38
      +4
      Quote: Sharky
      There, just Yellowstone Volcano (Yellow Stone) is gaining strength ...

      If you are a believer, then I advise you to "cross yourself" and say "let this cup blow me." If an atheist, then spit or knock on the chipboard.
      The opinions of all scientists are unambiguous - if, as you put it "ZHAKHNET", then EVERYONE will not be "boring", but sour.
      Ameria earlier, and to others as far off. But EVERYTHING.
      Let's not pick this earthly abscess ... yes
      1. Sharky
        Sharky April 18 2014 06: 45
        +1
        Break through !!! lol
        1. Ptah
          Ptah April 18 2014 06: 51
          +1
          belay Here again ... Did you just say that on behalf of the volcano?
          Erupt! What will we plug? what
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov April 18 2014 07: 09
            +1
            Quote: Ptah
            What will we plug

            Announces a volcano to a warrior laughing
            1. Ptah
              Ptah April 18 2014 07: 19
              +1
              If he announces, and I hear this in the news, I will immediately desert to Cassiopeia. Are you with me, Sasha? Greetings!

              It will be easier and faster to decay into atoms during a hyperlight transition than for a long and tedious way to grow bristles like worms throughout the body. For crawling in slag dumps.

              Threat. Although some representatives of the male part of humanity, they are already present ... laughing
            2. Kurkin
              Kurkin April 18 2014 12: 33
              0
              This is only the United States and NATO can! It is only in their competence (incompetence)! laughing
    2. Sakhalininsk
      Sakhalininsk April 18 2014 07: 01
      +1
      It’s better not to touch Yellowstone, because they themselves will get so much out of it that they don’t need a nuclear war either. Too deplorable and terrible will be the consequences of the eruption of this volcano for all living on the planet.
      1. rainufa
        rainufa April 18 2014 07: 38
        0
        So we can evaluate whether it will be good or bad, but the fact remains.
  14. Rohon
    Rohon April 18 2014 06: 12
    0
    In the Black Sea, they lakhanulis and break off in the Baltic (numbers will not help them). The gut is thin ........
  15. visitor
    visitor April 18 2014 06: 22
    +1
    Quote: Lantau
    The group will consist of ships from Norway, the Netherlands, Belgium and Of Estonia.


    And what does Estonia exhibit? Is it really an inflatable boat?
    yes how can you say so disparagingly, this is the flagship of the fleet. :)))
  16. Mihail177
    Mihail177 April 18 2014 06: 25
    +1
    Well, the Americans were worried about their contribution to NATO. Right now, p. I. endosa in chocolate, all members of his gang will be forced to bow. Thanks ukra! soldier
  17. Siberian 1975
    Siberian 1975 April 18 2014 06: 28
    +2
    One obts in the Black Sea has already been seen. Now there are five more potential seruns going to the Baltic. I have a feeling that NATO, with the help of our Air Force, has decided to cure constipation in its sailors. But in this method of treatment there is a side effect in the form of a mental disorder and refusal from further service. laughing
  18. Ilja 22
    Ilja 22 April 18 2014 06: 29
    0
    Once again, asking for a good Russian pi..linu, or mockery of them, the omnipresent lol
  19. Quantum
    Quantum April 18 2014 06: 37
    +2
    The main thing is that they are growing on the earth! Polish and Baltic priestesses of love,
    The inflow of currency into the country can be said to help the economy within the framework of patriotism. Recently, one official from Estonia admitted that this
    serious help for the state. Moreover, it will be possible to acquire and
    inflatable rubber aircraft carrier for Estonia.
    1. Turkir
      Turkir April 18 2014 09: 38
      0
      Plants for the production of condominiums and contraceptives are a serious help to the state, especially for officials of this state.
  20. Ptah
    Ptah April 18 2014 06: 42
    +1
    And nemchur again clamped their ships. Woah, stupid people ... They will say that the solarium is now dear, and they themselves will arrange parades of kriegsmarine on the Kiel cross-beam. Hypocrites ...
    If only they would come. I am ready to volunteer as a translator and guide for curious Russians.
    1. Little Muck
      Little Muck April 18 2014 10: 44
      0
      Quote: Ptah
      A nemchura again clamped their ships

      Not. It's just that the memory is still fresh. wassat
      They will now peek around the corner. Already preached.
      Now only the war with the monuments, they do not give in return. UNTIL. laughing
      1. Ptah
        Ptah April 18 2014 11: 23
        0
        Greetings, Vitaliy!
        Quote: Little Muck
        Not. It's just that the memory is still fresh.

        Yes. But I assure you, as a man of countless number. time (at work, and lived not far) was the former at the port in Kiel.
        1. Their memory, indeed, has not dried up. But this is not what you want to hint about. No hate. There are bitter grievances on what happened. Memory as a GENERAL TRAGEDY. But it is not denied that the fault at the beginning of this nightmare is on the Germans.
        Those that are almost gone. BUT to blame current ...
        2. Peep will be required. But not for the purpose of stabbing a crooked knife in the back, but for the sake of interest, what, who and how will get rid of these "evil and insidious" Russians.
        Quote: Little Muck
        Now only the war with the monuments, they do not give an otvetku. TILL.

        This is from another opera. And it has nothing to do with sailors. As well as to ordinary Germans. Another deflection of the government. And no more. hi

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osmijDLJRD0
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVhd6_y8TAw
        1. Little Muck
          Little Muck April 18 2014 12: 08
          0
          Quote: Ptah
          Another deflection of the government. And no more.

          So after all, wars and so on, it is precisely the governments that begin. And the opinion of the people is not particularly taken into account.
          And the talk of sailors as cowards did not stand.
          Quote: Ptah
          They will be sure to peep. But not for the purpose of stabbing a crooked knife in the back, but for the sake of wondering what, who and how will get rid of these "evil and insidious" Russians now.

          But I'm not sure about the knife. I have no faith in the West.
          So far, only dirty tricks.
          1. Ptah
            Ptah April 18 2014 12: 38
            0
            Quote: Little Muck
            I have no faith in the West.

            I share these "concepts" of the West (Lo) and the Germans. Even though they are GEOGRAPHICALLY in the WEST.
            Who are we talking about now?
            Having lived with them for a long time, I will say that more than anyone from Europe, they are "more direct", more honest, more responsible for words, and especially for deeds.
            But one cannot say that they are open-minded, innocent. Not bad and not good. Just something else. Everything is simple.
            A crooked, dirty, boot knife in the liver is not their style. They are inherent to remain silent and turn away.
            The attitude towards the Russians is the best against the background of those who have recently "come in large numbers" towards them. Ask any German who is the best techie, smart guy and in general in the world. They will say - Russians. Nuuuuu after the Germans themselves, naturally ... laughing
            And this is not their advertisement.

            And the government "What the government ... This is the last term. Angela also said one thing at first, and now she is doing another ...
            Just like everyone else. Nothing extraordinary. Much in the relationship depends on the Russian government.
            With a German as a dog (in a positive way). You can not iron. Go near, sometimes feed (gas - because for the money), talk calmly. And she will not growl, much less rush.
            But if you change the owner .... Then everything is unpredictable. Right now this dog is not allowed to approach Russia ...
            Draw your own conclusions.
            1. Little Muck
              Little Muck April 18 2014 13: 19
              0
              Quote: Ptah
              But if you change the owner.

              And who is the boss now?
              Quote: Ptah
              Right now this dog is not allowed to approach Russia ...

              Well no. They just say "Fas".
              Yes, and why do I need unpredictable dog? fool
              We need predictable and reliable partners, not dogs.
              1. Ptah
                Ptah April 18 2014 13: 36
                0
                You are talking about politics, about which I have no desire to speak.
                I’m talking about people for whom politics is mostly incomprehensible and unpleasant.
                hi
          2. Boa kaa
            Boa kaa April 18 2014 23: 42
            +2
            Quote: Little Muck
            So after all, wars and so on, it is precisely the governments that begin. And the opinion of the people is not particularly taken into account.
            But in vain! Indeed, preparation for an armed confrontation includes the preparation of the country: the people, the economy, tactical, operational, strategic, military-technical and moral-psychological preparation of the armed forces, leadership and population of the country.
            To V.I. Lenin can be treated differently, but none of the philosophers of our time can dispute his assertion that "it is impossible to wage a war unpopular among the people for a long time."
            And his second expression: Victory is ultimately determined by the spirit of those masses who shed their blood on the battlefield.
            The Great Patriotic War of the Soviet people against fascist Germany clearly demonstrated this. IMHO.
        2. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa April 18 2014 23: 20
          +2
          Quote: Ptah
          Their memory, indeed, has not dried up.

          Vadim, you are absolutely right. In Kiel, there is a monument to ALL SEAMERS who died in the sea. But there is a portrait of A.I. in the museum. Marinesco Yes, yes, to the one who sent to the bottom of Steuben and Gustlov. They honor courage, professionalism, skill ... their own and the enemy.
          The GERMANS are not fascists. Germans are nationality
          Fascists - political and moral urody that do not have a nationality. An example is modern Ukraine.
          1. Ptah
            Ptah April 19 2014 04: 54
            0
            Greetings, Alexander!
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            There is a monument in Kiel

            Was near. Only not in Kiel itself, but in a village on the coast, in Laboe. You are absolutely right. ALL SEAFARERS. The construction was carried out before the Second World War, but after the "re-dedication" in the 50's, it began to symbolize the memory of those who died during World War II.


            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            The GERMANS are not fascists. Germans are nationality
            They honor courage, professionalism, skill ... their own and the enemy.

            Glad you understood me correctly !!! drinks
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            Fascists - political and moral urody that do not have a nationality. An example is modern Ukraine.

            Little of. Miserable, disgusting copycats. Moreover, they do not understand that they were specially allowed to breed. For one single purpose. Replace those who did not manage to trample Russia in the 40 of the last century. For more they are not suitable. Subject to destructio (lat.) since we are talking about them as fascists.
            Their "svidoshizm", so much praised by (themselves), has nothing to do with the social-nationalism of the Hitler Youth.
            It was initially not sharpened as a creative and bonding "nation" force / ugh, pleaaaat, the word is not even suitable. Let it be so - "power", as the notorious Samantha Power /, but only, like rabble, must hate everything that connects them with the Slavs ....
  21. Deadmen
    Deadmen April 18 2014 06: 44
    +1
    Where is our already well-known demoralizing drying of all?)) Work has appeared.
  22. Alikovo
    Alikovo April 18 2014 06: 55
    +2
    there Tu-22M3 will not wait.
  23. sanek0207
    sanek0207 April 18 2014 07: 13
    0
    Guys, what’s the truth with the Estonian fleet? Does he even exist in nature? Ok mattresses, etc., and Estonians !? We also need to find out how the feces of American sailors affect the flora and fauna of the Baltic Sea, if Sushki is bad enough, and if it is positive or neutral, then the Tu-22MZ can be used. Sorry for the fish!
    1. Ptah
      Ptah April 18 2014 07: 24
      +5
      Quote: sanek0207
      Guys, really

      Yes, really, really ...
      Here you have the truth. Free the mouth from any food so that it does not enter the respiratory opening. Laughing...
      Get ready -
  24. Signaller
    Signaller April 18 2014 07: 17
    +2
    Four minesweepers and a support ship is an armada ???? For mines yes,. But somehow we have already been wiped. Well let them go. It will not be worse.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa April 18 2014 23: 59
      +1
      Quote: Signaller
      Well let them go. It will not be worse.

      Yes? And there at the bottom is our branch of the product pipeline to Western Europe. And also communication cables are laid at the bottom ... I connected to it and listen to your health. (I deliberately keep silent about protection systems).
      And WWII presents at the bottom outside the recommended sea routes - more than enough. For example, barges with organic matter in the area of ​​the Danish Straits, about. Bornholm.
  25. 1goose3
    1goose3 April 18 2014 07: 29
    +1
    The group will consist of ships from Norway, the Netherlands, Belgium and Estonia.

    I wonder from which fleet Estonia sends its ship? From the Black Sea, from the North, and maybe, horror, from the Pacific!
  26. Russian20
    Russian20 April 18 2014 07: 33
    0
    Probably the Americans told their allies what "magical" sensations in the Black Sea from the flight of the MIG-24 over their super-duper ship they got and the allies also decided, and the worse we want, we will only put on diapers in advance.
  27. sv68
    sv68 April 18 2014 07: 41
    0
    They want to have fun according to the American scenario. The Yankees have now cured their constipation. But the Americans didn’t reveal a strategic secret to them, now the states have chronic incontinence and the atmosphere’s gas content has sharply increased in Romania.
  28. Afinogen
    Afinogen April 18 2014 07: 44
    +1
    Harper explained this decision with a response to "expansionism and militarism" on the part of Russia. "I think this is a long-term, serious threat to international stability and security, and we are always ready to work with our NATO allies," said a Canadian politician.



    This is NATO’s hysteria, this will pass. laughing
  29. Denis
    Denis April 18 2014 07: 45
    +1
    All these nonsense should remember this silhouette.
    I will tell them a little secret, there are more than four such machines in the Baltic
    Apparently, too, they want to fear all together to deck the deck out of fear, as their owners
    1. Little Muck
      Little Muck April 18 2014 10: 53
      0
      Quote: Denis
      It’s also evident that they want to fear the whole deck

      Probably these have already been sent with tongues in ... e. They just did not explain that the technique remained the same.
      And we have someone to work on.
      1. Denis
        Denis April 18 2014 16: 09
        0
        Quote: Little Muck
        And we have someone to work on

        So sorry for the Baltic Sea
  30. mamont5
    mamont5 April 18 2014 08: 35
    0
    "NATO is sending parts of its naval rapid reaction forces to the Baltic Sea to strengthen the defenses of its eastern European allies in the wake of the Ukrainian crisis. Four minesweepers and one support vessel," Reuters said, citing a spokesman for the Alliance's naval command.

    Well, if you go through the tonnage, then you are welcome. I understand that minesweepers send in order to trample the sea at the site of the attack of our plane of the Amer destroyer and catch all used diapers so that the Black Sea basin does not clog. Well, if they try to twitch, then ...
    The Black Sea is not only hospitable. This was well distinguished by the ancient Greeks. When they sailed to the Black Sea coast with goods, they called it Pontus of Euxinus - the Hospitable Sea, and when they came with war, they received a worthy rebuff called the warm sea Pontus of Aksinsky - the Sea Hospitable.
    Legends of Crimea. http://poluostrov-krym.com/esse/legendy-kryma/pont-aksinsky.html
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa April 19 2014 00: 07
      +1
      Quote: mamont5
      "NATO sends parts of its naval rapid reaction force to the Baltic Sea

      Quote: mamont5
      The Black Sea is not only hospitable.

      Namesake! Minesweepers send to the Baltic. And you speak of Black. Didn’t beguile for an hour?
  31. kelevra
    kelevra April 18 2014 08: 54
    0
    Ha ha ha, drive, we will now have more exercises in the Baltic!
  32. Svetovod
    Svetovod April 18 2014 08: 54
    0
    Taking into account the experience of Napoleon, Hitler chose the ideal "European" time for a campaign against Russia. It was possible a little earlier, but not later. Now the same garbage - Europe must "tame" Russia before winter. So they writhe, don't understand why.
  33. Yarik
    Yarik April 18 2014 08: 59
    +1
    I would like to ask only one question: “AND WHAT?” The guys do not want to do, let the budget be ruined.
  34. Pesnyadv
    Pesnyadv April 18 2014 09: 09
    0
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: Sakhalininets
    Feels my heart

    America will see the Russian Poplars over Washington.


    And poplar fluff will fly across the USA bully
  35. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 18 2014 09: 17
    0
    Come on, guys, democrats swim up, our Onyxes are looking forward to meeting you. Our S-300s are always ready to greet your aircraft in the air. Just don't hesitate.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa April 19 2014 01: 38
      +1
      Quote: Thought Giant
      swim up, our Onyxes look forward to meeting you.

      I wanted to know a terrible military secret: the carriers of the P-800 on the BF? Ships and submarines - no. BRAV - armed with "Rubezhi" (25 brigade, Donskoye settlement). Aviation - Su-24, such missiles are not carried.
      So where is Onyx waiting for the adversary in the Baltic?
  36. Roman1970
    Roman1970 April 18 2014 09: 28
    0
    Have money - let them send it to us, what?
  37. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S April 18 2014 09: 32
    0
    All arrived, the calm days at the Baltic Fleet ended, the whole armada of the unbeatable fleets of Norway, Holland, Belgium and Estonia goes to the shores of Russia. In advance, begin to tremble with fear, hide people, clowns on the way.
  38. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch April 18 2014 10: 10
    0
    Yeah! The problem, 4 minesweepers are great! Although they do not need to be discounted. They will probably stuff them with radio-electronic equipment for a month, they will spoil from neutral waters. And we will train, there is a reason in an environment close to combat to work out tasks.
  39. Vtel
    Vtel April 18 2014 10: 20
    0
    “So this is Mowgli?” You look a lot like banderlogs.
    - I'm wolf! I am a wolf of a free tribe! My prey will be your prey.
    - Brave heart and courteous speech.
    - Banderlog ... Do you see well?
    - We see, Kaa ...
    - Go one step ... Closer ... Closer ...


    Apparently the Americans want to probe our "old troughs", but they sent a whole floating laboratory. They got it in the ass - the mazakhists - they still want it. Closer, closer ...
  40. andrejwz
    andrejwz April 18 2014 10: 21
    0
    Currently, the ships are in the German port of Kiel. Next month, they are scheduled to exercise and work on the detection and deactivation of mines and torpedoes since the two world wars.

    In fact, previously it was reported plans to conduct work on the detection of mines and torpedoes of World War II in 2014. The only thing that this event was planned as a joint with Russia. Well. Spend without us. And all these statements are more for escalation in the press.
  41. nvn_co
    nvn_co April 18 2014 11: 15
    0
    Let them go. In the Black Sea we already walked. And the hysteria with reports about the dismissal of American "sailor heroes" is no longer hiding. Su-24 is enough for everyone! ))))
  42. solar99
    solar99 April 18 2014 12: 04
    0
    Harper attributed this decision to Russia's response to "expansionism and militarism"

    The Western Hemisphere also has its own "Poland" - Canada

    According to Global News, the fighters will serve along with the planes of the USA, Great Britain, Denmark, Poland, Portugal and Germany.

    Where are they ???
  43. project sity
    project sity April 18 2014 14: 32
    0
    Serious power is approaching the Baltic Sea! With such a force, only Indians amaze. They unite against Russia - it would be better if they put things in order in their own country. Than poke another finger!
  44. Leshka
    Leshka April 18 2014 19: 12
    0
    we can demonstrate how our missiles sink their ships well laughing
  45. razved
    razved April 18 2014 23: 23
    0
    Armada is what fighting they have: as many as 4 mine minesweepers and one support vessel. Is it time for the Russian Baltic Fleet in the Gulf of Finland to hide from fear. laughing
  46. Pesnyadv
    Pesnyadv April 18 2014 23: 30
    0
    In this "demonstration of strength" their IMPACT is clearly visible !!!
  47. Sergey Vl.
    Sergey Vl. April 20 2014 21: 48
    0
    Well, how can we do without Estonian sailors ?! I remember at the turn of the century at the first patrol boat built in Tallinn (the rest of the "floating craft" are Western gifts: on you, God, ..) after one of the first exits of the propeller blades on a rocky shoal, they were chipped to the butt.