Translate me through Maidan

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Your country could be great. At the time of the collapse of the USSR you had everything. Or almost everything that is needed in order to build a great country. Natural resources. Developed industry. Agriculture. Resort areas.

If you wish, you could not only provide yourself with gas and oil, but also trade with them. In terms of manganese ore reserves, Ukraine ranks second in the world, and in terms of production in the first, at least recently it was in first place. In one compact area is concentrated everything that is necessary for metallurgical production: iron ore, coal, polymetallic ores. You have everything you need for non-ferrous metallurgy: titanium, zinc, aluminum. You have gold and uranium. Your uranium would be enough for the next hundred years - this is at least.

Your country could be a space power. It is not joke. After the collapse of the USSR, you got Yuzhnoye Design Bureau with all production facilities and specialists. The same "Yuzhmash", which produced the P-36М2 "Voyevoda" missiles - the very ones that our worst "friends" in NATO call "Satan". The one that in the conversion version is called “Dnepr” and is able to put into orbit almost four tons of cargo - more than “Soyuz” without accelerating blocks.

You had a fleet. Now he sold on needles. There are still a few rotting pelvis and the flagship - “Getman Sahaidachny”. A whole frigate! Ridiculous. Border patrol ship project 11351. All, that managed save. Moreover, a miserable, repaired submarine that could not even go from Odessa to Sevastopol to Odessa.

You had an army. Now it's a pitiful remnant. In 1992, the Ukrainian Air Force had 2800 aircraft, of which 1100 were combat. To date, 226 have survived, not counting drones and helicopters. Equipment in military units is mostly rotten, and what has not yet rotted continues to rot.

You had agriculture. With enviable persistence, you kill him too. At the moment, five percent of the total territory of Ukraine is actually bought by China. And this is not waste land - this is farmland. Let it be called a long-term lease. For fifty years, your grandchildren will have time to forget that once this land belonged to them.

You promoted everything. Or almost everything. In just twenty three years.

You promidanili industry and agriculture. Ukraine's GDP is two times less than that of Belarus, despite the fact that Belarus has never had a tenth of the natural wealth that you have. Ukraine's GDP is even lower than that of Albania, the poorest country in Europe. Only a quarter, but less. Your hard workers come to us in order to earn a more or less normal life. They agree to go almost to the other side of the globe and work here, on Kamchatka in OUR adits, extracting gold and nickel for US, on OUR seiners and trawlers, and extracting fish for US. Increasing our GDP.

You missed your army and navy. What did not rot in the boxes, fleets and at airfields was simply sold. It's ridiculous, but true: in 2012, Ukraine came in eighth in the world in the arms market. And about ten to fifteen years ago she sold Tanks T-90, which itself does not produce.

You promied your own history. Yes, it is certainly a pleasure to keep your story almost from the creation of the world and at your leisure to paint the atlas of Ukraine, but is it worth it? I did not say: people who do not remember their past are deprived of the future. One of the reasons for the collapse of Nazi Germany was that the Germans had forgotten their history. And it is not at all embarrassing to live in a country that is not twenty centuries old, but three or four. Americans live somehow and do not suffer from this. Already won the former metropolis under a crushed, which, by the way, already from the Roman Empire of the century considers. God be with them, with centuries. You have already promoted even a very fresh story. You forgot with whom and for what your grandfathers fought. And now, almost in the gums, kissing those whose grandfathers were ready to simply wipe your people off the face of the earth. History does not forgive.

You have already started proming your country. And this is the result of the fact that you promoted the story. Doesn't it come to you that the Crimea just ran away from you? And he escaped, not because Russia is better, but because the Crimeans have not promoted their history.

I feel crazy and painful to look at what is happening to you now. It hurts because I still remember what Ukraine was just recently. It hurts because I have friends and relatives living in Ukraine. Wildly, because what is happening with Ukraine now resembles some very evil theater of the absurd. Wildly, because I do not believe that people can be fooled to such an extent.

Yes, in our country, too, not all chocolate. We still have a lot of problems. And with industry, and with the army, and with corruption, and with social security. We still have enough of our thieves in the government, our gangsters. Yes, just incompetent people. Not so long ago, our country, too, was rolling into hell, when a semi-comatose alcoholic ruled her as a merchant who had been chased by a hunted troika.

But now our rockets fly into space, and even if not ours, then on our engines. Our tanks and aircraft are considered the best in the world. I buy products made in our country, I go in clothes made by Russian manufacturers. Our army, which for many years was in a wild pen, suddenly turned out to be almost the most combat-ready in the world - this is the opinion of American analysts. And I'm not afraid that tomorrow a bottle of Molotov cocktails or a shell will fly to my window. And I'm not afraid that next sanctions will be announced to my country tomorrow, simply because all these sanctions are just dust, so the whistle into the pipe.

You can, on the basis of bile and malice, shout as much as you like that I am Putin's slave, who is zombie Kiselev. If I disappoint, I don’t like Putin, and I don’t quite know what Kiselev is talking about. I turn on the TV every six months, I do not listen to the radio, but I receive information from a pile of various sources, including Ukrainian ones. I was taught in the USSR to search for information. And I also remember the history of my country. And I remember with whom and against whom my grandfather fought. What you want.

And I also wish to recall the words of the Ukrainian poet Vitaly Korotich. And think. And say out loud: translate me through Maidan ...

Translate me through Maidan,
De all holy day, b'yutsya і fight,
I do not feel anything for myself.
Translate me through Maidan.
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  1. +16
    April 18 2014 08: 24
    Puppets bribe
    Lovers of a foreign land.
    But as Taras Bulba said:
    - Well? Poles help you?
    1. +19
      April 18 2014 08: 29
      And I wonder when they call Ukraine a power belay
      What the power holds is interesting .. laughing
      1. +5
        April 18 2014 08: 42
        nationalism is the search for the enemy and its destruction ..... that’s what Ukraine produces .... so far the only way, if the plants are not standing, they will soon stand up completely ..... and brother will go to brother ......
        1. +2
          April 18 2014 10: 39
          Do not confuse nationalism with Nazism stop
          Nationalism preaches fidelity and devotion to his nation, political independence and work for the benefit of his own people, cultural and spiritual growth, the unification of national identity for the practical protection of the living conditions of the nation, its territory of residence, economic resources and spiritual values.

          National Socialism (German Nationalsozialismus, abbreviated Nazism) - a form of social structure that combines socialism with extreme nationalism and racism, as well as the name of ideology that justifies this kind of social order. It combines the various elements of socialism, nationalism, racism, fascism, anti-Semitism and totalitarianism.
          1. +2
            April 18 2014 15: 39
            In Ukraine, rather "National Capitalism".
      2. +4
        April 18 2014 08: 51
        Quote: Igor39
        And I wonder when they call Ukraine a power belay
        What the power holds is interesting .. laughing

        I fully support you.
        And in my opinion, the author got very excited about calling Ukraine a country.
        1. +3
          April 18 2014 09: 29
          Yes, everything is written correctly. Cruel, but right. They ruined the country, now they can also ruin the people. That's just animals do not understand human speech. Maybe they feel in some place that they are talking to them, react to the voice, only the meaning does not reach them!
      3. The comment was deleted.
      4. 0
        April 18 2014 10: 37
        For the holder! This is something that offends them ...
      5. +2
        April 18 2014 11: 48
        And I also don’t know who Kiselyov is ... Guys are what kind of a hero they are constantly talking about Kiselyov, but I don’t even know what kind of character ... I know Kashchei, I know a woman, but they are all Ukrainian figures.
        1. 0
          April 18 2014 14: 19
          Quote: biznaw
          . I know Kashchei, I know a woman yaga, but they are all Ukrainian figures.

          good hi
      6. GRune
        0
        April 18 2014 12: 44
        What the power holds is interesting .. laughing

        Per Scepter of Obama laughing
      7. +2
        April 18 2014 13: 18
        Quote: Igor39
        And I wonder when they call Ukraine a power
        What the power holds is interesting ..


        I could not resist reposting ... I liked it very much. Profanity - but such is life, I will try to hide it as much as possible.

        Operation "Ukraine". Play.
        I omit the list of actors, for they are well known and so.
        A curtain.
        White room-operating room. On the table is Ukraine. Deputies, the Cabinet of Ministers, and other active and inactive people are crowding nearby. In the center is a two-headed Turchinov. On the right bald head there is an inscription with the marker “president”, on the left - “speaker”. A golden photograph with rhinestones on the cap of the commander-in-chief is stuck to the right scotch tape (the original was confiscated by the right-wingers in Mezhyhirya). In the corner are Simonenko and Shufrich.
        Shufrich: isn’t it hard for him, with two heads?
        Simonenko: yes this is garbage, but imagine what it’s like for him to sit on two armchairs with two ops!
        Deputies rush to him, beat.
        Turchinov: Chanova deputies. Need to discuss the problem. Our country is in danger ...
        Symonenko from the corner: So move away from the table and do not hang ...
        A group of "Svobodovtsev" rushes to him and beat him habitually.
        Turchinov: Something is wrong with Ukraine. She doesn’t react to anything! See (adjusting the photo of the cap): Rise! Mobilization! Twenty times to push out!
        From the inside, “Go to ...!” “Absolutely wrong reaction, colleagues ...”
        Noise, suggestions of "electric shock her!". Tymoshenko climbs out from under the table, dragging a blue balloon behind him.
        Simonenko: And again Tymoshenko gas p ... t!
        A group of BYuT rushes to him and beat him habitually.
        Shufrich: Julia, this is not gas, but oxygen, return it to its place!
        Tymoshenko again disappears at the table, knocking with a fake crutch. Dr. House enters with Okhlobystin.
        Dr. House: This, of course, is not my business, but you lose it!
        Kolomoisky: This is in no way possible, it is impossible to lose, it owes us and Taruta money!
        Yatsenyuk: How much?
        Taruta: Yes, as much as we plunder, so much should! And then we’ll lose, where will we look for her? Also, you’ll wash off in London, you’ll get the hell out!
        OKHLOBYSTIN. Nerds! You all have less brains combined than bananas on the tree!
        Dr. House: Colleague, bananas do not grow on the tree!
        OKHLOBYSTIN. Guessed! Well done! So their brains also did not grow! Hey! Morons! She is dying!
        The eyes of the deputies and those present become absent, their eyes go glassy, ​​their right hands rest on their ties.
        Mansion: "Shche ne vmeerla Ukriyina ..."
        OKHLOBYSTIN faints.
        Chorus "... Now, our brother, Ukrainians, will share a smile! ..."
        Symonenko fearfully shows Shufrich to the window. A huge balloon with an image of a scorching skull rises outside the window. You hear the malicious snicker of Medvedev.
        Dr. House: Colleague, why do you have banana-themed allegories here?
        OKHLOBYSTIN. Yes, they brought me to the hospital the other day the Papuan, asking for something from depression. And he, it turns out - megalomania! Says the president of America, count up! Well, I sent him alive to injections and sent him to the ward. He will be treated there.
        Dr. House: Did you go yourself?
        OKHLOBYSTIN. You seem to be smart, where did you see psychos go to the ward themselves? Orderlies, of course, packed.
        Dr. House: And those, well, who were with him?
        OKHLOBYSTIN. Well, those had to be violent ...
        Meanwhile, the choir fell silent.
        Dr. House: Gentlemen, my colleague wanted to say that she is very sick ...
        OKHLOBYSTIN: Imbeciles, it must be treated! And then ...
        Dr House pinches Ohlobystin's mouth, he still resists for some time
        Turchinov: Does anyone have instructions on how to treat?
        Yatsenyuk: Yes, the other day from the IMF passed! (Points to a huge stack of papers against the wall)
        1. +2
          April 18 2014 13: 20
          Turchinov: Read.
          Yatsenyuk: Tighten the belt to the second hole!
          Turchinov: Leaf a little.
          Yatsenyuk: Tighten the belt to the ninth hole!
          Turchinov: Still, further!
          Yatsenyuk: Tighten the belt to the seventy-sixth hole!
          Turchinov: (Annoyed) More about the belt, too?
          Yatsenyuk: (Leafs through) Yeah ...
          Turchinov: (Confused) Well, yes, I also say to my flock: “In order for a cow to eat less and give more milk, it needs to be fed less and milked more”
          Joyful Parubiy runs in - Brenan gave me instructions! (Sticking a leaf to Turchinov)
          Kolomoisky - Tarute: Yazh said - Brenan - the head!
          Okhlobystin walks up to Parubiy, looks in his face for a long time. Then he goes thoughtfully to Dr. House.
          OKHLOBYSTIN. Colleague, somewhere I saw him ... I remembered in my second year! Medical Handbook of Psychiatry. Section "Oligophrenia"! Guys!
          Quietly enter two orderlies. Two daggers peer out from under the robe, the robe of the other barely fastens on the “warrior”. Parubia politely withdraw.
          Klitschko: Nothing, I didn't like him either!
          Turchinov (reads): Well, everything is simple, clear and understandable. Special operation. Attention! Getting ready for the operation! I appoint myself the chief surgeon. As chief surgeon, I appoint a sister ... myself too. Anesthesia
          Tymoshenko climbs out from under the table. Pulls off the mask. Tightens, then more and more. With a pleased podkayfnaya erysipelas falls.
          Simonenko: well, the gas is over ...
          The noise, the cries of "The Hand of Moscow, gas blackmail, Putin's machinations," but they beat Simonenko.
          Turchinov (looks at Ukraine): Yes, she does not care, you can even without anesthesia ...
          Yatsenyuk: maybe she should insert a reverse pipe from Europe?
          Voice of Medvedev "Put yourself in the opera"
          Turchinov: Sister, this one like him, such a knife!
          Turchinov: Does anyone have a knife?
          Yarosh runs up, swings: I will cut myself! Who is against - I’ll re-elect, in the sense I’ll cut it!
          Somehow they calm him down, take him away from the table.
          1. +3
            April 18 2014 13: 23
            Poroshenko wipes Sobolev’s sleeve and hands Turchinov a serving knife.
            Poroshenko: you must have your own!
            Kolomoisky - Tarute: Yazh said - Poroshenko - the head! I will gather a hundred, no, a thousand, no, five thousand bayonets!
            Taruta: And I'm ten thousand!
            Turchinov: What for you so much? What will you feed?
            Taruta: Whoever does not want to feed his army will feed someone else's! (nods toward Yarosh)
            Turchinov: Silence, we begin the operation to eliminate separatism!
            Everyone is silent, you can only hear how Avakov knocks on the keys. Mumbles, “And he tells me once, and I give him women, and they are all on me, and I them!”
            Lavrov’s voice is heard from behind the door: “, remove the noose from it!” Blood does not circulate in the body at all! ”
            Tymoshenko waking up: Blood? Blood! Blood! their atomic weapons! Megalaser! Death star! Burn out!
            Okhlobystin is calling somewhere.
            The orderlies come in. Tymoshenko politely withdraw.
            Turchinov: Koval, send troops.
            Koval enters with a huge enema with the words "troops". Introduces. At first you hear rumbling, other terrible sounds. Then everything calms down. Everyone looks at each other perplexedly.
            Simonenko:, the instructions for use say that it does not help against the people.
            A group of "Svobodovtsev" rushes to him and beat him habitually.
            Sobolev: Nifiga, this is such a tactical move to dull the vigilance of separatism!
            Enter business people in overalls, with tape measures and measure Ukraine.
            Yatsenyuk: Are you builders from Europe? Will you build roads? Or a gas pipeline? Or both?
            People in overalls leave, the eldest, with a hand on Yatsenyuk’s shoulder and very sadly: “Fasten yourself ...”.
            Sobolev approaches (surprised): And then there was Crimea!
            Turchinov: Probably self-amputated.
            Shufrich: It's your own fault. Why shouted “Russians: a suitcase, a train station, Russia!” ?. Didn’t you read Russian fairy tales in childhood? (Looks at the awesome Farion). We drove through. For particularly stupid (again looking at Farion) I will explain. In Russian fairy tales, Russians, when they go somewhere, take a little of their native land as a keepsake. Multiply a little by 2 million - That will turn out to be Crimea.
            A group of "Svobodovtsev" rushes to him and habitually beat Simonenko.
            Turchinov: The operation is just beginning. Do not relax!
            Putin's echidic voice: “Better the contrary, relax! It won't hurt so much! ”
            Lyashko (a little scared): actually he is telling the truth ... Oh, and what is the matter with her?
            Ukraine is slowly starting to crack and creep apart.
            Turchinov (correcting the photo of his cap): conversations in the ranks! The whole world community is with us! It will not allow! Someone urgent suture material!
            Yarosh runs away, returns with a skein of barbed wire. Everyone rushing around.
            Simonenko: I warned you!
            A group of "Svobodovtsev" rushes to him and beat him habitually.
            At this time, people in overalls are returning and rolling out Ukraine. The first chords of the funeral march sound.
            Those present freeze. The eyes of the deputies and those present become absent, their eyes go glassy, ​​their right hands rest on their ties.
            Mansion: "Shche ne vmeerla Ukriyina ..."
            OKHLOBYSTIN faints.
            Shufrich - Simonenko: colleague, but doesn’t it seem strange to you here?
            Simonenko: Is the phonogram fake?
            Shufrich - no, the inscription at the entrance: "MORG"
            A curtain.
      8. +3
        April 18 2014 14: 38
        chicken is not a bird, Ukraine is not a power! And so ... territory ... By the way, for the first time the term "territory" was applied to Ukraine by the US State Department during the reign of the holy fool Yushchenko, who, although he erased his tongue, licking the ass of the United States, still - did not deserve more than "territory"!
    2. +14
      April 18 2014 08: 45
      Quote: ya.seliwerstov2013
      But as he said Taras Shevchenko
      - Well? Poles help you?
      "Taras Bulba", N.V. Gogol.
      1. +5
        April 18 2014 10: 47
        I don’t know if T. Shevchenko said it,
        And here is the original from Nikolai Vasilyevich Gogol "Taras Bulba":
        "- Well, what are we going to do now?" Said Taras, looking directly into his (Andriya - my extra) eyes.
        But Andriy did not know anything to say, and stood with his eyes downcast in the ground.
        - What, son, did your Poles help you?
        Andriy was unrequited.
        - So SELL? SELL FAITH? SELL YOURSELF? Wait, get off the horse!
        Submissively, like a child, he got off his horse and stopped neither alive nor dead before Taras.
        - Stop and don't move! I gave birth to you, and I will kill you! - Taras said and, stepping back a step, took off the gun from his shoulder. "
        I haven’t completely written this work, but I remember it well enough since 1971, when I studied it in literature lessons.
        TIP: It’s better to reread it again than to quote paraphrases. Or read at all if you have not read at all. You will not regret.
    3. predator.3
      +10
      April 18 2014 09: 08

      In this episode, the whole history of relations between Ukraine and Russia!
    4. +6
      April 18 2014 09: 11
      Gogol..Nikolay Vasilyevich..stamy of Taras Bulba ..
    5. Validator
      +3
      April 18 2014 10: 46
      Maidan and maydauny this, of course, sucks full. But the main traitors and perpetrators of the current situation in Ukraine is the Party of Regions. With their help and connivance, Ukraine reached such a position. Playing on pro-Russian moods, they came to power, then they didn’t carry a damn thing out of their program and traded w-po on the right and left, handing over their vile deeds. A very good result of this spring is that they merged and are sent on. They are trying to rectify the situation by choosing a rather radical in the rhetoric of Dobkin, but this will not help. We need an honest pro-Russian party, I hope it will arise, and it will be headed by Tsarev
      1. +2
        April 18 2014 13: 26
        Quote: Validator
        We need an honest pro-Russian party, I hope it will arise, and it will be headed by Tsarev

        Tsarev is not pro-Russian, but pro-Ukrainian. And at the most inopportune moment, the Russians will merge in Ukraine. I would not bet on Tsarev.
    6. Validator
      +1
      April 18 2014 22: 14
      Yatsenyuk is a dog, but there is no Ukraine
  2. +16
    April 18 2014 08: 27
    Ukraine is in fact a finished country. Her convulsions are coming, and then everything. The end.
    1. +4
      April 18 2014 08: 58
      But it seems to me that the people and history will grind the Kiev Fuhrer and lawyers and people will remember how the dreaded and bloody dream of the Maidan, and there will be no country like Ukraine, but the outskirts will remain and the earth does not care how they share it, there were French and Germans and peacekeepers, Anglo-French landed in Crimea, and everyone knows how it all ended, and Russia will return to the place and with the outskirts, and Novorossia will return, our land will remain ours, our Slavic, and Judas will also remember and spit on them, those who call enemies to their land to help, for those who always want to defeat their country, taking 30 silver coins as manna from heaven, together we will grind it.
      1. W1950
        +1
        April 18 2014 09: 44
        We will remember Judas, but in Ukraine they were quickly forgotten.
        1. +2
          April 18 2014 11: 35
          Quote: ArhipenkoAndrey
          But it seems to me that the people and history will grind the Kiev Fuhrer and the right-wingers and people will remember as a terrible and bloody dream of the Maidan ...


          When people forget, twist their story - they can
          to create not only great nonsense but also great misfortune.
          Forget your childhood, woke up - some kind of starter teaches you how to live.
          I remembered back - it’s your wise father who brings up his ever-young child.
          (sorry for the clumsy thoughts)

          PS Ukraine forgot the story!
          1. +3
            April 18 2014 12: 12
            Western Ukraine forgot how its population was driven by fascists to work in Germany during the Second World War!
            Western Ukraine has forgotten that Russia will tear anyone who will object to fascism! Just because so necessary!
            Western Ukraine has forgotten a lot. Europartners drove a lot on her ears.
            Now she is running into the abyss! And pulls the eastern brother.
            1. infinite silence ...
              +4
              April 18 2014 12: 59


              Even the Germans understand the situation ....
            2. 0
              April 18 2014 15: 42
              Quote: ASed
              Now she is running into the abyss! And pulls the eastern brother.
              East is resisting. He doesn’t want to go there)
      2. GRune
        0
        April 18 2014 12: 46
        They have experience in milling, they have already milled the hetmanshchiny, ruins, famines, etc. five times already.
      3. 0
        April 18 2014 20: 32
        Quote: ArhipenkoAndrey
        And it seems to me that people and history will be grinded and the Kiev Fuhrer and the law-abiding

        I would very much like to believe in your scenario! But ... The infection has long exceeded the therapeutic size, only amputation! And the question will help! Metastases penetrated deeply!
  3. 0
    April 18 2014 08: 28
    It has long been known what happened, what is ... but so far it is not known at all what will happen next ... The people of Ukraine - YOU decide and no "good" Uncle or Aunt will do it for you ...
    1. +3
      April 18 2014 10: 42
      Quote: svp67
      The people of Ukraine - YOU decide and no "good" Uncle or Aunt will do it for you ...

      Why didn’t you decide anything under Yeltsin? The people of Russia just watched the EBN drink
      country, only when the West made an irreparable mistake from its point of view, making Vladimir Putin the presidency, did you begin to solve something. And still, after so many years, how many unresolved problems remained. Belarus also "stuck in" Well, you’re stupidly lucky, you must agree. Take the West a little more seriously to the situation, having paid for Shushkevich’s elections, and I’m sure there would be torchlight processions of Belarusian nationalists in Minsk. In Ukraine, such chances didn’t fall, either the West made conclusions, then But after Kravchuk we elected the president of the “red director” Kuchma, the former head of Yuzhmash. We wanted him to be like Lukashenka. And he sold himself to the West. What does it depend on? Neprukh. So if you were lucky with the syabrikas, more does not mean that you are all super-duper, and we have a population. I will tell you more, both in Russia and in Belarus everything is tied to the leader, to one person. God forbid, if something happens, and everything will go according to Ukrainian scenario.
      1. acute
        0
        April 18 2014 14: 46
        under Yeltsin, we had as it is now with you. But don't learn from your mistakes. As for his personality, Putin was able to gather like-minded people around him, but Ukraine did not. Will hope. that your "experience" will be enough for us and this cup will pass us by. you vaccinated us for several decades
      2. koshh
        +1
        April 18 2014 15: 25
        Remember Ukraine in the early 90s. How happy you were with leaving the USSR, how you were sure that now you will live like real Europeans, how you laughed at Russia, considering us idlers and drunkards ... But only 23 years have passed, so what? One smart man said: “It does not matter who you were, it is important who you became.” And today we are a Great country, and there is practically no Ukraine. And we will never go according to the Ukrainian scenario, because we have a memory, a historical memory, and you squandered yours, crossed out and replaced it with Bandera and jargon that you call the Ukrainian language. And we choose our leaders ourselves - good or bad, they are ours. And if we don’t like something in them, then we don’t kick for luck or bad luck, this is our choice and we do not blame anyone except ourselves. And I can't say anything about yours. What they wanted, they got it. You say "nepruha", nepruha in your heads. All the time you are trying to find the extreme, but no, now yourself - after all, your "huts are on the edge". Now try to rake your own DOU yourself. which you have applied.
        1. 0
          April 18 2014 15: 37
          I agree. We have already gone through our crisis, we will definitely not have such a thing as now in Ukraine. And about the "bad" - back in the late nineties, when Russia was almost the same mess as it is now in Ukraine, one of my friends said: "My number one task is to build capitalism in a single family."
          He fulfilled his task, despite all the difficulties. I wonder if he would have made a lot of jumping in the squares?
        2. 0
          April 18 2014 21: 31
          Quote: koshh
          Remember Ukraine in the early 90s. How did you enjoy leaving the USSR

          I remember leaving because it seemed that there was more socialism in Ukraine than in Russia. And if Ukraine had such natural resources as Russia, our rulers might also have eaten up from the sale of gas and oil, and would not destroy industry, wouldn’t it actively sold to the West.
          Quote: koshh
          And according to the Ukrainian scenario, we will never go

          I sincerely hope so, otherwise the End of the World will come.
          Quote: koshh
          You say "nepruha", nepruha in your heads.

          But to "poke" and consider all the people stupid and not thinking cattle is rudeness. On this site, old-timers have been ill with this for a long time. I hope it will reach you.
      3. +1
        April 18 2014 20: 39
        Quote: revnagan
        . God forbid, if something happens, and everything will go according to the Ukrainian scenario.

        Although everything is far from "ice" here either, we shouldn't blame it on a healthy one!
        Charismatic drunks, when the population in confusion can crawl into power, but the pastors leading gay parades, Zhidobandera ... there is no point in continuing!
        So revnagan, I understand, you want to think that “Ukraine is just not lucky!” Sorry! Dangerous delusion!
  4. +3
    April 18 2014 08: 29
    Article plus.
    And the Nikitins song was very emotional. Early option, not late.
    1. +2
      April 18 2014 09: 17
      Why "was", it has not gone anywhere :) Great song. Disruptive.
    2. +1
      April 18 2014 11: 03
      I feel crazy and painful to look at what is happening to you now. It hurts because I still remember what Ukraine was just recently. It hurts because I have friends and relatives living in Ukraine. Wildly, because what is happening with Ukraine now resembles some very evil theater of the absurd. Wildly, because I do not believe that people can be fooled to such an extent.
      recourse
      1. koshh
        0
        April 18 2014 15: 34
        Quote: velikoros-xnumx
        It’s wild, because I don’t believe that people can be fooled to such an extent.

        Believe me, do not believe it, but the result is on the face, you can even say on the mount.
        1. 0
          April 18 2014 15: 38
          Unfortunately so ... But I'm really wild ...
  5. +3
    April 18 2014 08: 29
    good article
  6. +5
    April 18 2014 08: 32
    Your country could be great. At the time of the collapse of the USSR you had everything. Or almost everything that is needed in order to build a great country. Natural resources. Developed industry. Agriculture. Resort areas.
    Yes it was, but we did not have one HEAD on our shoulders.
    They say it helps a lot in state-building affairs ..
    1. +1
      April 18 2014 08: 50
      And the head will not help if it is from the USA.
    2. GRune
      +2
      April 18 2014 12: 49
      Those who are now in Chocolate had heads (Poroshenko and other Oligarchs, all presidents and many officials). Therefore, Ukraine has no stomach left, everything has gone to mind.
  7. +4
    April 18 2014 08: 32
    What benefit can be from loafers? The current of devastation and decline.
    1. +3
      April 18 2014 08: 48
      Quote: Coffee_time
      What benefit can be from loafers? The current of devastation and decline.

      A new way of earning in Ukraine (Social.advertising)
      1. +3
        April 18 2014 10: 40
        Absolutely oh. Re. In contrast, you can - strangled Bandera, saved the homeland!
  8. +9
    April 18 2014 08: 33
    I agree with everything. Just why the author of Putin does not like? Just a question. Take the driven and raped country from the drunk who conducted the orchestra, and in less than 20 years turned it into the State. That's right, with a capital letter.
    1. +4
      April 18 2014 10: 30
      Has the right to dislike. There are so many shortcomings that sometimes it is thought that he is for one with those against whom it is necessary to fight. But the merits must not be forgotten.
    2. +2
      April 18 2014 14: 19
      Well, I don’t like it. There are reasons, but they have nothing to do with the topic.
    3. koshh
      0
      April 18 2014 15: 42
      Zra you so about Yeltsin. If it weren’t for him, we would have long had our own mandown. And he went away beautifully and offered to leave Putin, then unknown, for anyone. He felt someone he could trust.
      1. +1
        April 18 2014 15: 46
        I agree, he had enough mind to leave. But he chopped a lot of wood. And about your maidan - they didn’t shoot at the white house? TV centers did not capture? We just managed to survive in a mild form. But if he had not left, then it is possible that a relapse would have occurred. And how voluntary was that departure? We are unlikely to be able to find out the whole truth about this ...
  9. +2
    April 18 2014 08: 33
    I like this point of view!
  10. Gagarin
    +14
    April 18 2014 08: 35
    From its very birth, UKRAINE HAS BEEN A DEAD CHILD.
    1. +4
      April 18 2014 08: 51
      Deep thought.
      I remember Ostap Bender: "But, but, you, an abortion victim"
      1. +2
        April 18 2014 11: 05
        When will you start to read classics?
        The original sounds like this: "- Well, you, an abortion victim," Ostap said arrogantly, "...
        The right word, offensive to the hero of the work. Attribute to him what he did not say ...
  11. paramon
    +2
    April 18 2014 08: 35
    WELL SAID!
    it feels that it is boiling in the soul of a person.
  12. machinetchik_39
    +1
    April 18 2014 08: 36
    Briefly, clearly, in essence. All Soviet legacy was spent ineptly, but nothing new was created. Then a new Bogdan Khmelnitsky will come, and we will start all over again, as has already happened more than once in Russia.
    1. +1
      April 18 2014 08: 53
      In Russia, in Russia, Bogdan Khmelko did not have and Glory to God.
      1. +2
        April 18 2014 09: 19
        In Russia were Alexander Nevsky, Ivan the Terrible, Peter I, Catherine II, Stalin. All of them, except Grozny, can be attributed to Ukraine, and Bogdan to Russia. If I am not mistaken, his name was Zinovy ​​Hop. Bogdan is a translation of his name from Greek. Khmelnitsky - Schaub Bulo is important, as in Pan-Poles.
        1. GRune
          +2
          April 18 2014 12: 51
          Do not touch Grozny with him Russia has grown Siberia!
    2. 0
      April 18 2014 09: 14
      Right! We are waiting for a new Bogdan.
  13. +1
    April 18 2014 08: 41
    Great article. To the author "+". It's a pity that they don't listen to arguments - moskali are to blame for everything ...
    1. 0
      April 18 2014 10: 34
      I think the minority is not listening to the arguments. I am sure that the majority of PEOPLE, ordinary PEOPLE, see everything, I understand everything. Many are silent, afraid. Everything has its time! Respectfully ...
  14. +1
    April 18 2014 08: 53
    As for Ukraine, I agree to all 100%. There is no connection with relatives in Ukraine, but I'm afraid they are all banderlogs maydanuty sad
  15. +6
    April 18 2014 08: 55
    It hurts because I still remember what Ukraine was just recently.

    I join. I remember very well the industrial and scientific Ukraine of the mid 80s - early 90s. I'm already used to its current state. Not right away, but I'm used to it. But I still can't answer the question: "How could this happen? How in such a magical way such power could practically disappear?" This is also a pity to me because at one time I managed to make my own, albeit very modest, but my own, personal contribution to the development of Ukrainian industry.
    1. +4
      April 18 2014 11: 47
      Quote: retired
      I remember very well the industrial and scientific Ukraine of the mid 80s - early 90s. I'm already used to its current state. Not right away, but I'm used to it. But I still can't answer the question: "How could this happen? How in such a magical way such power could practically disappear?" This is also a pity to me because at one time I managed to make my own, albeit very modest, but my own, personal contribution to the development of Ukrainian industry.

      "How did such power almost magically disappear?"
      Yes, just like in Russia and the rest of the former Soviet republics, excluding Belarus.
      Let's take a sober look at things, leaving patriotic euphoria for a moment.
      We remove the oil and gas component ... and what do we have in the dry residue?
      And all the same as in Ukraine.
      Agriculture is in a deplorable state, there is practically no light industry, the machine-tool industry and the tool industry are also dead, the electronics industry has died, the production of household appliances, too, the civil aircraft industry is on the brink of survival, the automobile industry is in the same position, the tractor factories have safely died / x manufacturers rejoice at every harvester or seeder sold, power engineering is balancing on the brink, there is no civil shipbuilding, Roscosmos has brought matters to the point that the launch of Soyuz has become more expensive than competitors, education and science (here it is better to be modestly silent so as not to break into profanity), healthcare and pharmaceuticals ... hmm ..., the defense industry is a separate song ...
      In all post-Soviet republics (again, exclude Belarus), oligarchic clans are in power, waging a relentless "struggle of bulldogs under the carpet."
      Raised a generation of office plankton and "ideal consumers".
      Terry nationalism is sober and cherished in all republics without Russia and Belarus; in Russia, the nationalism of individual autonomies is cultivated by quiet glanders.
      Fairy tales about overcoming the GDP level of 90 remain fairy tales for everyone except Belarus, because there is an elementary scam in the form of including financial sector "products" in the GDP, which does not bring any practical results.
      Similarly to Ukraine, the army was crushed in Russia, they cut equipment with such a rush that they forgot to withdraw ammunition, left the fleet and aircraft rusted, burned stockpiles of ammunition, enthusiastically cut the BZHRK and blew up launch mines, gnarls and fired officers, sold military equipment at bargain prices (sold military equipment) hi to Serdyukov with his female battalion).
      Here is such a picture is observed if you remove the pink glasses of raw materials.

      I am pleased to hear constructive counter-arguments.
      1. koshh
        0
        April 18 2014 15: 46
        There are no counter arguments, unfortunately.
        1. 0
          April 18 2014 15: 49
          There are counter-ducts, it’s just a little time now, and we already have a night. Tomorrow I will try to find the time.
      2. 0
        April 19 2014 08: 25
        Quote: Wheel
        We remove the oil and gas component ... and what do we have in the dry residue?

        In the bottom line, we have, for example, the factory in which I worked. Today - a great production. And there are not one such plant in Yekaterinburg. The company I work for is one of the world leaders in the field of VTD. Created from scratch. The level of hardware and software is the highest. You can still give examples, but I will stop. Yes. Destroyed a lot. But not all polymers have come through. No need to panic.
  16. +1
    April 18 2014 09: 02
    Quote: retired
    How could this happen?

    People who came to power were unable to manage the economy on a state scale, only on a personal scale, and in this case a lot turned out to be unnecessary, the only thing that trade turned out to be capable of, here Ukraine is not alone
    1. +1
      April 18 2014 11: 42
      It happened exactly the same in Russia.
      N.S.H. he promoted corn before the Arctic ... Cut the fleet, artillery. And ... away we go. Until now, it is coming around.
      As long as the liberals and oligarchs rule, until they restore confiscation and the death penalty, Russia cannot be raised.
  17. 0
    April 18 2014 09: 02
    "+"

    only now, the moment, consumer goods, clothes, mostly not Russian ... but maybe in the near future ... our girls will be drawn to sewing production and not to bookkeeping ...
  18. Az_esm
    +1
    April 18 2014 09: 02
    And when to listen? It’s necessary to download, otherwise I’ll count it!
  19. +5
    April 18 2014 09: 09
    The author forgot about the times of the civil war in Ukraine ... about the statements of I. Farion (about 1654 and the invaders) ... etc.
    Do you know what is really sad?
    The sad thing is that, asking his friends and Ukrainian comrades the same questions that the author announced, there were conditionally three possible answers:
    1 (80% of the Sumy region, Kiev, Lviv) - why are you asking me these questions - now I will not be friends with you, and in general you are Russian invaders.
    2. (15% of Kiev and Kiev region) - these are all ancient times - why tedious? Maybe enough to disconnect Ukraine?
    3. (5% Makeevka) - he asks me the very same questions as the author, complete understanding. RF we want in you

    Threat. Well, if the Soviet leaders and Russian tsars were invaders since 1654. return Ukraine to its original borders.
    1. 0
      April 18 2014 15: 18
      I haven’t written much about what, just and so the text came out too big ...
  20. 0
    April 18 2014 09: 10
    Quote: valersvet
    but maybe in the near future ... our girls will be drawn to sewing production and not to bookkeeping ...

    It will be interesting to listen to what will be the motive, the last thing I heard about Trekhgorny manufactory and Ivanovo is that they are almost on the verge of closing
  21. kudwar68
    +10
    April 18 2014 09: 12
    Embittered by nationalism, the zombie mass for the most part of the western and central Krajina ruined not only all ties with Russia, but also its industry and army. The constant accusations against us are to blame for all moskali /
    1. +4
      April 18 2014 11: 18
      only Mskli, they are villains, they all plundered and sold everything in Ukraine, they never serviced military equipment for 20 years, they did not provide plants and other agriculture !!!! Lazy slaves who need a strong, squeezing master's hand.
      Blame everything on Russia and the Russian people - all their inability to think rationally and sensibly, the reluctance of those who have seated in power is working for the good of the state, and therefore the people - farmers in power - are no shame for sebe, I will not give it to others.
      And now all this pack is not looking for a way out of trouble, but who to appoint to blame. sinking, but the outstretched hand pushes ....
  22. +6
    April 18 2014 09: 13
    You can scream as much as you like on the basis of bile and anger that I am Putin's slave zombified by Kiselev. I’m disappointing - I don’t like Putin,
    Quote: a52333
    I agree with everything. Just why the author of Putin does not like? Just a question. Take the driven and raped country from the drunk who conducted the orchestra, and in less than 20 years turned it into the State. That's right, with a capital letter.

    Putin may not like him "for internal use". Little money is allocated for culture, a mess with education, the dominance of oligarchs, fattening up on the resources of the entire state, only the lazy did not criticize him for the circus with the previous defense minister, the terrible state of the defense industry (before Rogozin), the lack of roads, disagreements with the renewal of industry, etc. ...
    But! Putin has already given me the opportunity to be proud of my country, as I was proud of it 30-40 years ago, I really want to believe - and I believe - that we are only at the beginning of this path, and the one who walks will take the road!
    1. +1
      April 18 2014 10: 35
      Quote: andj61
      Putin has already given me the opportunity to be proud of my country, as I was proud of it 30-40 years ago, I really want to believe - and I believe - that we are only at the beginning of this path, and the one who walks will master the road!

      Yes, I agree, and I do not hesitate and do not pay tribute to the fashion to scold Putin about this, I can say: I like Putin. And this does not mean that I am his slave. See quote andj61.
  23. +5
    April 18 2014 09: 13
    Of course, it’s better for us than in Ukraine ... But let Ukraine be an example, how to lead it is not necessary, it is time to learn from the mistakes of others ..
  24. +2
    April 18 2014 09: 15
    Well done author, wonderful wrote. Unsuccessful grief-power that has corrupted everything that is possible in 23 years. You still had to be able to! laughing
  25. +1
    April 18 2014 09: 21
    Doesn’t it reach you that Crimea simply escaped from you? And he escaped not because it was better in Russia, but because the Crimeans did not mark their history.

    For 23 years, an ordinary Ukrainian was brainwashed with Bandera, SS heroes and other Shukhevychs. A whole generation has already grown up (they have already had children of their own), which was hammered into the brain that the one who is against "her" is a hero, fought for "independence", and so on.
    And the essence, in the well-known medical phenomenon. The more insignificant a person, the greater his false self-esteem, attributed self-service and Napoleon’s syndrome.
  26. Rubmolot
    +1
    April 18 2014 09: 22
    Every nation has the kind of power that it (the people) deserves.
  27. +2
    April 18 2014 09: 33
    Hate is to blame. Hatred of Russia, which the modern rulers of Ukraine handed over to their people, is the reason for the collapse of Ukraine. Because hatred was never creative, but always destructive. So the result is obvious.
  28. ed65b
    0
    April 18 2014 09: 56
    Well done Igorek plus. subscribe to your every word.
  29. 0
    April 18 2014 10: 09
    Well what can I say, the author is well done. You can agree with his likes and dislikes, but you can argue, but one thing is clear, it would be nice to argue with Igor (unfortunately I don't know his middle name) and just debate. Justified position and competent presentation. Absolutely solid + without any reservations.
    hi
    1. 0
      April 18 2014 15: 27
      Well, if there is a desire to debate - so here I am, if that ...
    2. 0
      April 18 2014 16: 25
      Yes, Mikhailovich’s middle name, if it’s so fundamental :)
  30. 0
    April 18 2014 10: 18
    Well done! I will subscribe to EVERY word!
  31. Rusin Dima
    0
    April 18 2014 10: 41
    And I do not respect Putin !!! I just love him, with ordinary human love for my neighbor, as I love my country, as I love all Russians fellow
  32. +1
    April 18 2014 10: 48
    I looked through the short history of Ukraine and I see that the same "disc" is playing over and over again, only the faces change.
  33. 0
    April 18 2014 10: 56
    Yes, everything is correctly said. This is what happens to the body without external stimuli. After all, parasites also have nothing except the digestive tract. It’s just that the parasite is too sensitive place hurt. And if before we had enough resources to feed ourselves and the parasite, now the parasite has created a threat to us. And we just limited access to resources.
  34. +1
    April 18 2014 11: 02
    Quote: Giant thought
    Hate is to blame. Hatred of Russia, which the modern rulers of Ukraine handed over to their people, is the reason for the collapse of Ukraine. Because hatred was never creative, but always destructive. So the result is obvious.


    Hatred of the USSR is the initial stage, followed by envy that everything is getting better in Russia, and everything is collapsing in the Outskirts, and then hatred and anger followed. How are we so Western, we all draw from the West, even our culture is Western, and we are sinking deeper into the ass. First of all, it is not hatred that destroys, but envy and the notion that I am the navel of the earth and everything should belong only to me, but he even tastes better, it must be taken away. But when the fat of the whole people is over and there is no place to take it, they start to look around and it turns out that there is a country nearby and it has at least a little of the same fat, but everyone has it. Then hatred arises, they have it, but I ate my mug in one hat, but they don’t give it from there, I WASN'T HAVE USED IT!
  35. +2
    April 18 2014 12: 59
    trouble and guilt ukroiny that for all the years of existence, a person who has thought about the people has never come to power and all problems were solved only by Kiev and through the Maidan.
  36. rumatam
    +1
    April 18 2014 13: 34
    The conclusions seem to be correct, But thinking and boasting, all the same, Ukrainian ".. We have everything, e and we can ourselves ..". It was, but not all, and you yourself would not have lived history, look, you yourself cannot live but only "for yourself."
  37. +1
    April 18 2014 14: 03
    The author is beautiful! Respect to the core! quote at the end - generally dump Bosko !!
  38. tnship2
    +1
    April 18 2014 14: 06
    Russians in Ukraine need a vaccine of pride. They don’t understand what a great nation they are. Uropia prophesied from their debiloscopes almost erased the spirit of the great RUSINS. Come on Russians! You are the descendants of those who settled the western lands of Orthodox Russia so that it would be so shameful to merge some Lviv half-poles ? Who will fall under even the Nazis to destroy Orthodoxy? For 23 years, Russia has tried to help you get on your feet. Why are you falling on your knees? In fact, there are no Ukrainians, there are Russians who simply temporarily went blind and deaf from the lies that poured into their ears every minute get up brothers. You have a chance that can happen once in a hundred years. Build a state of justice. Launch this rotten swamp. Maybe in RUSSIA-MATUSHCHA human forces will move towards you to build a just society. Start from Ukraine, and maybe this process will smoothly transfer to Russia. Drive all this Kiev shusher. What prevents you from building a friendly Russia’s world? The main thing is Russia understands you and helps you as you can. But we cannot automatically win your bright future for you.
  39. +1
    April 18 2014 14: 11
    Shame on all presidents and the Maydan authorities ....
  40. +1
    April 18 2014 14: 14
    In the picture, Tymoshenko looks like a character from "painkiller" laughing
  41. +2
    April 18 2014 14: 21
    A couple of Germans are sitting in a tavern, and a couple of Ukrainians are nearby. The Germans looked at them with interest, then decided to roll up.
    - Guys, are you from Russia?
    “No,” they say, “we are from Ukraine.” - And what's that?
    - The country is like that. We have our own coat of arms, anthem, flag.
    “This is understandable,” the Germans say. - And where is such a country?
    - Do you know Sevastopol? - Ukrainians ask.
    “I know,” one says. - my grandfather fought there. But this is Russia.
    - No, this is Ukraine. We have our own coat of arms, anthem, flag. Okay, how else can you explain? Donbass know?
    - We know. But this is Russia!
    - No, this is Ukraine. We have our own anthem, coat of arms, flag.
    The Germans see that nothing happens. Thinking:
    - Okay. What is your language? Russian?
    - No, ours, Ukrainian.
    “And what do you think?”
    - Arm.
    - And the leg?
    - Leg.
    - Hm .. And zh.p.a.?
    - S_raka.
    - And it was you, because of one s_raki, who invented a coat of arms, a national anthem, a flag ???


    Poland, you have a replacement! Teach them everything you know!
  42. +1
    April 18 2014 14: 33
    "It is wild and painful for me to look at what is happening to you now. It hurts because I still remember what Ukraine was like recently."

    Everything is very simple. The country, having received independence from the hands of the Russians and proclaiming the slogan "WE ARE NOT RUSSIAN" as its state ideology, began to implement this slogan in life with wild ecstasy, destroying and destroying everything that could only remind of a 300-year period of common history. The main sign of political reliability was a savory spit in the direction of Russia. Now they are destroying the memories of the Soviet period, and there is a lot of work ahead of them to destroy everything connected with the Russian Empire. Therefore, building your own state (economy, social sphere, army) is too busy and boring. They will join the European Union and everything will work out by itself. That's just that you have to pay for everything, and sometimes with a lot of blood - they forgot!
    1. tnship2
      +1
      April 18 2014 14: 46
      I completely agree with you! In 91 Ukraine was given a chance to become equal among equals. The opportunity to create their own story. No, they sell their birthright, worse, they also have to do it. Horror. Russia drags them by the ears from bondage. No, they still abut.
  43. +2
    April 18 2014 15: 02
    what else are we surprised at?))))))
  44. 0
    April 18 2014 15: 37
    I turn on the TV every six months
    I understand the author. My telly has been working for the past 3 months, how many have not been working for three years, due to the crisis of Ukraine. In 2005, he considered Russia in terms of living standards comparable to Africa, with the only difference in climate (Moscow is an exception). Over 8 years, everything has changed significantly, and for the better. In 2008 he was in Odessa and in Sevastopol. There was a noticeable difference in life compared to Russia, and not in favor of an independent ...
    1. 0
      April 18 2014 15: 42
      Recently, I also started turning it on more often, but I only watch the news, without any analytics. Purely as one of the source of information.

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