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Fake junta launched a fake civil war

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When they ask me what is happening in Ukraine, I answer shortly: in the fake state, a fake revolution broke out between fake revolutionaries against fake power, as a result of which a fake junta was established, which launched a fake civil war. It’s not just the king naked, the whole kingdom is pornographic naked.


Yesterday, terrible reports about bloody battles near Kramatorsk appeared in the media, and today around the city they cheerfully roll under the Russian flags on anti-terrorist forces APCs of the Donetsk Republic militia embracing the Donbas suppressors.

It turned out that there was no battle for the airfield. It was just that the locals tried to control the semi-abandoned military facility with their bare hands, and its watchmen called for armed reinforcements, which fired the people away from the airfield building.

In response to this, standing up along a barbed wire fence, the residents of Kramatorsk showed obscene gestures to those in the depths of the territory of the Ukrainian military and shouted: “Bandera, bring home! Who are you going to shoot ?! Who was shot ?! ”

During the “battle” for the airfield, as it should be, a Ukrainian fighter flew in the sky and let in for the beauty “heat traps”, which successfully replaced the fireworks.

More over Kramatorsk was "shot down", as it later turned out, fake Syrian helicopter-plane.

And at this time, near the city of Rodnenskoye, Donetsk region, local residents captured with the help of a Niva car and a three-story mat during persistent “battles” Tanks"Anti-terrorist contingent." From the faces of the tankers it was clear that they saw a pastor and a “speech therapist” with their “anti-terrorist operation” in a deep, dark and indecent place. The boys clearly did not understand where the enemy was, which must be ruthlessly, as Tymoshenko calls, to shoot from the tank. Around only evil, but absolutely their men, who can fill the face for the “war”.

There is a feeling that all the so-called “armed forces”, which will send Kiev to the South-East, are doomed to quietly and completely dissolve into Donetsk cities and villages. Despite the frenzied hysteria in the media, the image of an enemy in the form of the South-East does not add up in the mass consciousness of people. And to do something bad YOURSELF, without understanding why, no one is burning with desire. Therefore, all hope is now on a separate shock battalion formed from deputies of the Verkhovna Rada, journalists from the Kiev media, party activists and members of the current government. Why are the most ardent supporters of hostilities in the South-East still not mobilized? They even weapon no need to give. There is so much hatred in them that with her psychic fluids she will kill all life within a kilometer radius. It is foolish not to use this potential.

In general, while the struggle continues ...

If we proceed from the facts, then this whole so-called “anti-terrorist operation” of Kiev rather resembles an anti-terrorist imitation. Obviously, the American commanders of the Kiev regime demand decisive action from the pastor, and he, in order to please them, organized a fake army and began to carry out a fake special operation. After all, the fake power cannot do something that is not fake, just as a hyena cannot give birth to a lion.

It is strange that so far not all cities of the Donetsk region are under the control of the Donetsk Republic. Obviously, they simply have not reached their hands.

Interestingly, during the “battle” for the Donbass, the 20 of the brave American mercenaries disappeared along with their curator from the CIA. Of course, I am not a psychic, but gentlemen are surrendering to me that they were dragged off by “green men”. It will be funny when, against the background of hysterical cries about the presence of the Russian military on the territory of Ukraine, American fighters will suddenly appear at a press conference in Donetsk, who, broken in fear, will speak in pure English about who they are and why they came to Ukraine. But according to the assurances of Washington, there are no American citizens (especially armed) on Ukrainian territory.

That would be Vladimir Vladimirovich’s funniest joke in recent months.

In the meantime, the revolutionary masses are fermenting in Kiev. In recent months, the people have yearned for revolution. Bored hundreds of “Maidan” want to take something by storm or catch some enemy of Ukraine. The last time the revolutionary energy of the crowd was redirected from the Verkhovna Rada to Oleg Tsaryov and the Kiev "Berkut". But what will happen when “enemies of the people” end in Kiev? I would have thought about this in the place of the new government. After all, if the “guard gets tired”, neither the “struggle” with the separatists nor the ardently correct speeches from the tribune of the session hall will save them.
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  1. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam April 17 2014 06: 36
    +12
    There is a feeling that all the so-called "armed forces" that will be sent to the South-East of Kiev are doomed to quietly and without a trace settle in Donetsk cities and towns.

    The right feeling.

    After all, fake power cannot do something not fake

    laughing good
    1. Civil
      Civil April 17 2014 06: 41
      +9
      After the revolution, either war or a powerful reaction occurs when the elites change.
      1. platitsyn70
        platitsyn70 April 17 2014 06: 50
        +5
        After the revolution, either war or a powerful reaction occurs when the elites change.
        who will fight with whom, if the Americans give grandmother they will again pretend that they are at war, but as soon as all this Bendera shushara smells fried, it will scatter.
      2. thrower
        thrower April 17 2014 07: 15
        +4
        Remember the Provisional Government of Kerensky, little and insignificant people, scattered after the words "The guard was tired", and Dybenko did not even shout at them, he simply told the fact. Where they all went afterwards is unknown, I read about Kerensky that he died in Paris in the 1970s. I don't even want to look for the rest, well there were and were. Yes, the army was brilliantly destroyed, yes, the Kornilov revolt was provoked. Look like that's it.

        Why am I doing this? Moreover, the garbage can of history is a terrible, dull and dreary place. But the whole Ukrainian elite for some reason seeks there.

        And the reaction is possible only on active elements, these same amoeba are dead. By the way, this is probably why they are still in power - they forget about them right away, moving away from them a couple of steps.
        1. AID.S
          AID.S April 17 2014 10: 09
          +1
          The fact you brought about took place with other characters at another time. Regardless of the comment itself.
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    3. 120352
      120352 April 17 2014 09: 55
      +2
      The concept of Fake (fake, fake) is used in the article on the wave of euphoria that arose as a result of the peaceful behavior of the first groups of troops entering the Donetsk region. For some reason, no one thought that it could be just scouts, whose task was to identify the general situation in the region and create a friendly attitude towards the military.
      But the situation changed dramatically when Westerners who did not speak Russian were replaced by Russians in military uniforms. Attempts to enter into peaceful, non-combat contacts by the local population provoked a completely opposite reaction in them, compared with that characteristic of the first wave of the military, who arrived in the Donetsk region, drank and had a bite with the local population, and cleared away with the received intelligence. The shooting began, the first victims appeared. And this is no longer a fake war. and the war is bloody. those. the real one.
      I think that if it were not for today's meeting of Lavrov with opponents of our position: the US, the EU, representatives of the usurper power, where it is possible that at least something will be achieved regarding a change in the attitude of the "partners" to what is happening, the reaction of Russia would have been different. This, apparently, was what they were counting on. However, I am afraid that by the evening, after it turns out that the meeting did not give anything (and it cannot give anything, since the parties have different, vector not coinciding goals) the situation may change dramatically. Russia will have to respond to the bloodshed more adequately. And then there will be no time for fakes.
      And then two ways are possible.
      1. The South-East will be suppressed both by the forces of the Westerners, and, it is possible, by NATO, and more precisely, the United States. This is the darkest option, since Russia's imminent entry into hostilities will put the world on the brink of a third world war. But Russia will not be able to do otherwise. Otherwise it will be surrender. And after Kiev, NATO will come to Moscow.
      2. The South-East will cope with the internal aggressor and move on to liberate the territory of Ukraine.
      However, what will happen in reality, we will find out later. But the fakes ended yesterday.
    4. Ross
      Ross April 17 2014 10: 52
      0
      A good author, writes aptly and sarcastically about serious things.
      And at this time Kolomoisky unleashes his war with the Donbass:
      Deputy Governor of Dnepropetrovsk Oblast Kolomoisky Boris Filatov on his Facebook page announced an official Jewish proposal to the Nazis (Kolomoisky is a member of the Board of Trustees of the Jewish Community of Dnepropetrovsk, head of the United Jewish Community of Ukraine, head of the European Council of Jewish Communities, and President of the European Jewish Union (EJU). Since 1995 of the year has Israeli citizenship, as stated in the London Arbitration Court in 2007): "We have a proposal. For each returned barrel, a reward is paid for a machine gun of 1000 US dollars, a machine gun - 1500 US dollars, a grenade launcher - 2000 US dollars. the transferred "green man", he is also a mercenary who set foot on our common land and is trying to push us in a fratricidal war - a reward of 10 US dollars For each vacated building transferred to the LOCAL authorities and under the protection of the special company "Donbass" of the "Dnepr" battalion - a reward USD 000 (moreover, geographically th community remains free access at any time). All the details, places of transfer of money, contact numbers tomorrow in a special message from the Headquarters of National Defense, "

      http://anna-news.info/node/15187
  2. mig31
    mig31 April 17 2014 06: 37
    +9
    GAY Kompani LLC TRANSFER PRODUCTION.
    1. mirag2
      mirag2 April 17 2014 08: 21
      +2
      Here is such a "huge" infa lol
  3. svetlomor
    svetlomor April 17 2014 06: 39
    +9
    All this would be funny if there were no dead, some kind of absurd theater.
    1. Turkir
      Turkir April 17 2014 06: 53
      +9
      I join your opinion, the victims are not a joke.
    2. Baloo
      Baloo April 17 2014 06: 55
      +10
      It would be nice if that were the case.
      And yet it smells of war.
      1. Krasnoarmeec
        Krasnoarmeec April 17 2014 08: 53
        0
        Quote: Balu
        It would be nice if that were the case.
        And yet it smells of war.


        Rostov-on-Don, Chkalovsky District
        And I dream of finding a foot mat in the form of a flag)))
  4. Keeper
    Keeper April 17 2014 06: 40
    +4
    No matter how you lie - the world will in any case find out the truth!
    Fortunately, in addition to corrupt media, people now have a camera in their phone and access to the Internet!
    1. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov April 17 2014 07: 09
      +2
      Quote: Keeper
      No matter how you lie - the world will in any case find out the truth!

      And I, already began to doubt! We with them (the rest of the world) have a completely different perception of the world! Where do we see white in them is black and vice versa!
      There is no need to flatter yourself "that the whole world will see"! When you look at the same picture, we and they see different things for some reason! This of course does not mean that you do not need to shoot and spread, but in my opinion their vision will not improve until they receive a Kalash on the forehead! (joke repeat )
      1. mamont5
        mamont5 April 17 2014 07: 23
        +2
        Quote: dmitriygorshkov
        And I, already began to doubt! We with them (the rest of the world) have a completely different perception of the world! Where do we see white in them is black and vice versa!
        There is no need to delude ourselves “that the whole world will see”! When looking at the same picture, we and they for some reason see different things!


        Everything is simple, the world sees and hears what different media show him, and then it purposefully searches for what it wants to see and hear. And the media, of course, write and show what their owners tell them. This barrier is quite breakable, but it takes time. It will break down the strongest barriers and rip off all the bandages.
  5. Signaller
    Signaller April 17 2014 06: 41
    +5
    Fake, not fake, and the corpse is wounded too. Are they also fake ???? And what awaits them ahead ??? Salute and praise ????? I think not. Their new Nuremberg is waiting, definitely. Only time is unknown, but what awaits is for sure.
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    2. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch April 17 2014 07: 17
      +3
      Yes, the cockerels will crow, definitely. Swota.
  6. dirty trick
    dirty trick April 17 2014 06: 46
    +6
    In the meantime, the revolutionary masses are fermenting in Kiev. In recent months, the people have yearned for revolution. Bored hundreds of “Maidan” want to take something by storm or catch some enemy of Ukraine. The last time the revolutionary energy of the crowd was redirected from the Verkhovna Rada to Oleg Tsaryov and the Kiev "Berkut". But what will happen when “enemies of the people” end in Kiev? I would have thought about this in the place of the new government. After all, if the “guard gets tired”, neither the “struggle” with the separatists nor the ardently correct speeches from the tribune of the session hall will save them.

    the extreme will be found quickly!
  7. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch April 17 2014 06: 51
    +6
    Mr. Vajra, your belonging to the second oldest does not give you the right to mock over the processes taking place in Ukraine. This is not funny, and if you do not understand it, then return to the place where you came from. Point RU.
  8. ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 April 17 2014 06: 52
    +4
    How much can you divide the country! Tearing it apart ... How much can you sell it? You seized power?
  9. ken
    ken April 17 2014 06: 54
    +11
    This is REPOST .Some wild farce is going on. The head of the CIA arrives in Kiev in search of the "black-water" mercenaries who have disappeared in the vastness of Donbass. The men of Lugansk are driving a rusty tank across the fields in a "Niva". Disabled Tymoshenko announces the recruitment of his army of volunteers. In Kramatorsk, another army of bandits disguised as bandits loudly and awkwardly attacks an airfield that no one needs. Zhirinovsky calls the degenerate Paruby and sends a warning from the Kremlin. He blushes with his ears and swaggers in front of the camera of the Afghan-Afghan journalist Nayem, with whose report about the Euromaidan all this confusion began. The peasants of Kramatorsk take prisoner the USSR champion in Greco-Roman wrestling, who was recently proclaimed the deputy secretary of the NSDC and sent to lead the operation to clean up civilians. He went out to the peasants as if to tell them that they were terrorists. The men believed and took him hostage.

    Meanwhile, in Kiev, a raid of legal extremists is besieged by illegal extremists who demand to act more extremist and accuse official extremists of having been bought by Putin. In response, the same accusations follow - that Putin sent under the Rada pseudo-Maidanites who are trying to destabilize the situation at the crucial moment. While the extremists of Kiev are arguing which of them is the more bought by Putin, a criminal case is being instituted against a candidate beaten by peaceful protestors for the hetmans of non-existent Ukraine - apparently, because he remained alive. Another candidate was not allowed into the television studio under the threat of beating, the so-called Avtomaydanovtsy - of course, bought by Putin along with tires. The most realistic candidate for victory in the election, the leader of the dark forces Darth Vader, was completely removed from the race - he turned out to be too bright and prudent compared to the rest. On TV, the people are simultaneously convinced of two things: that Ukraine is one and all around the brothers and that part of this people are terrorists and separatists. The funny thing is that many viewers believe both.

    An infernal mix of big top circus, walk-field and export democracy. The feeling that the script was written by a rare Hollywood
    1. thrower
      thrower April 17 2014 07: 18
      +3
      The feeling that the script was written by a rare Hollywood


      Judging by the handwriting, Quentin Tarantino wrote. If so, then Django will come soon. wassat
    2. qwertynsan
      qwertynsan April 17 2014 07: 22
      +5
      Hollywood script but filmed somewhere in Brazil, a lost child will soon begin, his mother, a lost memory, and of course, a hero lover patiently waiting for everyone to wake up_)))))
      1. inkass_98
        inkass_98 April 17 2014 07: 42
        +4
        Quote: qwertynsan
        Hollywood script but filmed somewhere in Brazil, a lost child will soon begin, his mother, a lost memory, and of course, a hero lover patiently waiting for everyone to wake up_)))))

        Yes, there are already hero lovers (Lyashko with Avakov) and a mother who lost her memory along with her brains - she’s the grandmother of the Ruinsky mess Yulia, Klitschko will take on the role of a child, she’s been pulling 10-11 for years of development. Just something the series dragged on, not Django, but Zorro needed. And the main characters of this play should be invited Jack the Ripper.
  10. shaman-25rus
    shaman-25rus April 17 2014 06: 55
    +1
    yeah. and made all these fakes with the help of fake green papers for the sake of fake democracy from a fake country with a fake president. BUT: not fake "green men" will come and weigh not fake people at all on absolutely fake faces of fiery ones (****).
    1. I am proud of Russia
      I am proud of Russia April 17 2014 08: 42
      0
      It certainly turned out a great senile scenario what . However, there are casualties from ordinary civilians sad. And this is serious, they are not fake.
  11. Igor39
    Igor39 April 17 2014 06: 56
    +2
    The junta is acting on the orders of Washington, I think the military officials are trying to balance between these temporary workers and the people, they want to retire and not be fired, but in this situation it is very difficult to please both sides. Small ranks and privates of the Armed Forces will not fight, the junta has hope for the national guard and the "right sector".
    1. Egoza
      Egoza April 17 2014 07: 33
      +3
      Quote: Igor39
      the junta has hope for the National Guard and the "right sector".

      Battalions Dnieper, Storm ... This is, rather, the creation of "personal armies" than anything else.

      And the people are really satisfied with the safari, chasing the "terrible forces of pacification" through the fields and plantings. Yeah, the "Russian special forces" disguised themselves as rural men and went to swear at the Ukrainian army with bare hands

      At the same time, there’s no supply, and armored vehicles to the Donbass militia.

      But scoundrels already generally cross all sides. They urgently need to report to the United States, and submit the fried facts to today's meeting!
  12. ambiorix
    ambiorix April 17 2014 07: 00
    +3
    Galvnoe that the security forces themselves do not want to fight shoulder to shoulder with PravoSekami and other banders and in every possible way sabotage their activities. Here is an angry post from the UNA-UNSO website. I didn't find it in Russian, but the bottom line is that the army and the security forces are a complete mess. Nobody gives them ammunition and weapons either old. part of the officer corps for "mo.skaley". The military and security officials are very aggressive and unfriendly towards the "poor broad nationalists".

    Our guys, right now, they’ll interrupt at the front of the First Front, and are on the offensive. S ** a Turchinov - n ***. No operations against separatists should not be carried out. More than that. A special warehouse is to be reserved until the required date of registration and return.

    Naybilshu "run-in" to carry out the anti-Ukrainian nationalists. The head of the non-custodian of Ukraine is the stink. I’m ready to stash zombie against the feathers of a chergy against them ...

    Ofitseri povni de *** and, scho not to be lured, on v_dmіnu vid our bіytsіv, zhodnoy combat dosvіdu. Їx command - the order of the highest idiots, yakimi stinks on the right і є. There’s a mess in people, they don’t have to navigate and they are not divided into tactful parts.

    Go to the battlefield. Zbroya is old and primitive. It seems that they didn’t break away, but they saw Chechens and Georgians in the Caucasus.
    Do not whistle the sapper shovels for infantry. Tobto ix is ​​just dumb. The generals of all rose at their dacha. Tobto vіysk mute we dug in the course of battle ...

    Chastina ofitserіv for my *** liv. But with them you can be rose in battle ...
    1. Egoza
      Egoza April 17 2014 07: 36
      +1
      Quote: ambiorix
      Chastina ofitserіv for my *** liv. But with them you can be rose in battle ...

      That's just the point! Bandera will shoot in the back. That is why the officers do not dare to openly go over to the side of the rebels! And they do not want to expose themselves, and it is not known who is there "in the composition" of their own troops!
    2. mamont5
      mamont5 April 17 2014 08: 22
      +3
      Quote: ambiorix
      Chastina ofitserіv for my *** liv. But with them you can be rose in battle ...


      That's right, it can be shown to Ukrainian officers to think - they will go into battle, and they will be shot in the back for lack of love for the Maidan.
  13. Quantum
    Quantum April 17 2014 07: 02
    +2
    Meanwhile, friends and other sympathizers of the junta in Kiev, commit
    ritual accumulation in the name of the ideas of independence and opposition
    protest movements in the southeast.
  14. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN April 17 2014 07: 06
    +7
    Oh, if only the "gray geese" could have snored brandy at the GDP press conference! wassat drinks
  15. maxxdesign
    maxxdesign April 17 2014 07: 06
    +3
    What is a fake? You can’t write in Russian?
    1. AleksPol
      AleksPol April 17 2014 07: 30
      0
      fake, from the English. fake - fake
    2. Egoza
      Egoza April 17 2014 07: 39
      +6
      Quote: maxxdesign
      What is a fake?

      fake - fake, fake. And also a bay of a rope, a hose.
      For our language, even the "hose" defines their essence well! laughing
      1. Andrey from Tver
        Andrey from Tver April 17 2014 07: 57
        +2
        Well, the hose to them ......
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    4. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch April 17 2014 07: 59
      0
      The answer is shit (do not ban it according to Lenin)
  16. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 April 17 2014 07: 09
    +2
    from the Don.
    The regional committee sees what he wants to see! And he sees: a democratic government:,: counter-terrorist: an operation on the South-East Military District, fulfillment of obligations to the IMF. Well, the Psheks decided to help: release: dill from the Russian troops! laughing
  17. APASUS
    APASUS April 17 2014 07: 11
    +6
    Fake revolution, for fake money - led to real victims and the collapse of the country!
    I think we can safely state the fact that the country Ukraine no longer exists de facto, then the only question is what part or parts of this country will depart from the state?
    1. Egoza
      Egoza April 17 2014 07: 42
      +4
      Quote: APASUS
      then the only question is what part or parts of this country will depart from the state?

      There is an opinion:
      "The fact is that" joining the Russian Federation is now UNREALABLE for the southeast. And for the foreseeable future too. For there is no "Crimean mentality" and the same Crimean ties with the Russian Federation. This is accurate and unambiguous. Is that the Luhansk region, and then, probably, not all.
      In Crimea, there really was no "attachment to the Ukrainian SSR (or Ukraine). And in the Ukrainian SSR (and this is basically the south-east with attaches) there has never been a craving for Russia, on the contrary. The famous -" you can work everywhere, but live only in Ukraine ".
      Joining is an act of hopelessness. The real, internal goal is to shake off Galicia with its Bendery.
      About federalization. It all starts with the constitution ... and here is the most difficult moment. It should be what suits the regions of the southeast. And this is difficult, because "Zapadentsev" has been stumbled across in Kiev and not only - the mass.
      A national (i.e., state) idea in itself is not a nationalistic idea. The nationalist was developed, fed and watered from the end of the 80s.
      In the framework of the collapse of the union and the fight against social. system. And these are very different things ...

      But all this, in fact, idle reasoning. There is such a thing as the will of the people (or the right to self-determination) and it is with this process that the Maidan launched that we are dealing with.
      And I absolutely guarantee that this will will not be in favor of joining the empire, if circumstances do not force it.
      The vast majority of my anti-Maidan acquaintances, and aggressively anti-Maidan, have no thought about joining the Russian Federation. But the construction of their own Ukraine (like the Ukrainian SSR), but with radically different relations, the center regions is even now.

      With a federal structure, in addition to its budgets and its laws within the federal territories, it also has its own system of power structures (militia / police) with direct subordination to regional authorities (elected). And much more. All this, with proper construction, gives a lot of opportunities both for the development of regions (if they will not rule) and for the development of a federal structure.

      If you look at the history of the last 100 years, then the concept of "successful and unsuccessful" state is very clearly written out. structures (structures).
      It was not the unions that turned out to be the most effective, but the federations with sufficiently broad powers of the regions.

      In general, everything is done if those who want to achieve success in business, and not just satisfy personal ambitions and profit from a freebie, take it.

      Cosmetics, which, of course, dream of some "bosses" will not work. It could have been under the previous government, but after the Maidan ... the animal face of a whole pack of "Svidomo" and their hangers-on appeared. And "cosmetics and half measures" will not work. And the version of the dictatorship of a handful of officials from the center is no longer "channeling."
      1. thrower
        thrower April 17 2014 08: 08
        +3
        Dear Fidget!
        So we are talking about this and that the entry of Ukraine into our composition is not an fix idea for Putin and the country's leadership. Russia needs a strong, self-sufficient and friendly Ukraine, because you need to live in peace and harmony with your neighbors. May all of Ukraine be rich, and we will go there on vacation and say how people live.

        It's just that now the question is different - Russian, Russian-speaking, or whatever you like call going to just kill and rob. This we do not want, and I believe our president - we will not allow it.
        1. Arhj
          Arhj April 17 2014 08: 40
          +3
          It should be added here that the entry of the South-East into Russia is seen as an extreme step. Russia will not refuse to accept the "rebel" regions, but will only do so when all other means of resolving the situation have been exhausted. And it's not about the sanctions. Today, the Russian economy is not strong enough to take on, in addition to the strategic Crimea, the burden of restoring the South-East and provide its inhabitants with at least a minimum standard of living by Russian standards. No, we can handle it, we have rebuilt Chechnya from scratch, but this or hinder the development of almost all other projects.
          In addition, it seems to me that in Russia there is no clear understanding of what to do with the Southeast after its accession.
          Ideally, the goal is to maintain a friendly Ukraine, a member of the Customs Union. The minimum program is neutral federal Ukraine, and in case of unfavorable development of protectorates in the Southeast with the non-aligned Center and the West
        2. I am proud of Russia
          I am proud of Russia April 17 2014 08: 58
          0
          thrower (1) RU Today, 08:08 ↑
          Dear Fidget!
          So we are talking about this and that the entry of Ukraine into our composition is not an fix idea for Putin and the country's leadership. Russia needs a strong, self-sufficient and friendly Ukraine, because you need to live in peace and harmony with your neighbors. May all of Ukraine be rich, and we will go there on vacation and say how people live.

          It's just that now the question is different - Russian, Russian-speaking, or whatever you like call going to just kill and rob. This we do not want, and I believe our president - we will not allow it.

          Agree with you!!! Only while our foreign politicians are working on their territory, are these mentally touched junta-men obeying the orders of the prince.
          1. thrower
            thrower April 17 2014 10: 31
            0
            Yes, how they perform, it can only be called sabotage.
            Simple truths:
            1. the Ukrainian army does not want to and will not fight (for the first attempt at a clash, for some reason, leaders from Kiev, led by the head of punitives, died)
            2. Bandera want to fight, but they understand that without the support of the army they will be transferred like bugs, but they won’t be able to force the army (well, they won’t put Bandera with a gun behind the pilot)
            3. As it turned out, the mercenaries who arrived also did not want to fight for Bandera, and after they had 20 people gone, they would rather want to go home
      2. alicante11
        alicante11 April 17 2014 08: 26
        +1
        And it seems to me that our oligarchs and officials are simply not profitable to take over Eastern Ukraine. It will be too stressful for social programs. And we also need to modernize production. We won’t pull both things. Or social, or modernization. Therefore, they are not in a hurry to officially enter the troops, although on some videos (to take at least the capture of the Kramatorsk mentor), obviously not the militias are working. They want to make a formally independent public education. In which everything that costs money will belong to our oligarchs. This rope will hold the southeastern regions of Ukraine in the Russian orbit stronger than the iron rope. Naturally, at the expense of the budget of Russia, they are modernizing industry to bring normal income to the oligarchs. Of course, there is a positive side to this for local residents. Over time, at least to the Russian level, the social income and income of the population will be raised.
        1. Egoza
          Egoza April 17 2014 08: 37
          0
          Quote: alicante11
          In which everything that costs money will belong to our oligarchs

          Aha! That's just how billionaire Akhmetov gave everything! And this is precisely what those who do not support pro-Russian activists are afraid of. "We don't have enough of our own oligarchs, you still put Russian oligarchs on our necks! Then there will be no life at all."
          But still, Akhmetov flew to Putin. Maybe we’ve agreed on something? repeat So the troops are not being brought in. "do everything on your own" hi
          1. thrower
            thrower April 17 2014 10: 35
            +1
            Yeah! Just like that, the billionaire Akhmetov just gave it all up!


            When the oligarchs quarrel with Putin, they either sew mittens or try on a neck tie in London.
            1. alicante11
              alicante11 April 18 2014 06: 47
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              +1
              The power of the oligarchs in money. No matter how rich Akhmetov is, the Russian oligarchs, and even more so the Kodly, they are richer. Therefore, at least to ruin by economic measures, even to incite the Russian state against it, it will not be difficult for them at all. So it’s natural that Akhmetov flew to the GDP to beg for the honorable conditions of surrender. Find out what he is allowed to leave.
      3. APASUS
        APASUS April 17 2014 20: 00
        +1
        Quote: Egoza
        "The fact is that" joining the Russian Federation is now UNREALABLE for the southeast. And for the foreseeable future too

        In your letter, Elena addresses only one side of the issue - the inclusion of rebellious regions in Russia. Why aren’t you considering a truly independent state? Let it certainly be under the patronage of Russia, but still independent!
        I can’t remember where I read (although this may not be entirely accurate infa) that 4 regions of eastern Ukraine are 60% of the country's GDP. As I understand it, there are resources, opportunities too - everything will depend on the will of the people
        1. alicante11
          alicante11 April 18 2014 06: 51
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          Also +1 :).
          That's just the people will not ask. As they say, so the people will vote.
  18. grog_bm
    grog_bm April 17 2014 07: 13
    +2
    Good article about a fake country !!! Recommendation to normal Ukrainians (in a good sense) chase a fake gang - choose a normal head of state - I recommend Putin or Old Man)))) Or simply declare Rashka and Bulbashia (Belarusians no offense))) war and immediately surrender)))) together we will build a normal , legal Slavic state !!!! I think none of the residents of our "countries" will be against it, and Nazarbayev will not balk !!! We did not need the USSR in the form that we did not need, but still we are one whole and we will make the USSR better !!!
  19. mamont5
    mamont5 April 17 2014 07: 18
    +3
    "That would be the funniest joke of Vladimir Vladimirovich in recent months."

    Yes, that would be really fun. Or maybe he will show these "mummers" today in a "straight line"?
  20. sledge
    sledge April 17 2014 07: 19
    +3
    Maybe fake, but people are dying. About the death of the guys from the golden eagle who fell at the hands of snipers, the same can be said fake? And about the death of civilians?
  21. AleksPol
    AleksPol April 17 2014 07: 24
    +3
    All this is not funny. It is easy for the author to "fake" on the keyboard at the monitor, but what is it like for the people who stand on the barricades, what is the Berkut fighters who are accused of what they did not commit and whose families are threatened. And the hard workers and their families will also starve fake? Correspondents who have visited the field will not write that.
  22. parus2nik
    parus2nik April 17 2014 07: 32
    +2
    Why are the most ardent supporters of hostilities in the Southeast still not mobilized?
    And Farion, Bandera commissar ... flaming speeches
    1. AleksPol
      AleksPol April 17 2014 07: 40
      +4
      Farion is not interested in the role of "Kollontai". R.o.zh.i did not come out
      1. Egoza
        Egoza April 17 2014 08: 38
        +3
        Quote: AleksPol
        Farion is not interested in the role of "Kollontai". R.o.zh.i did not come out

        And brains too! hi
        1. I am proud of Russia
          I am proud of Russia April 17 2014 09: 04
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          Fidget SU Today, 08:38 ↑ New
          Quote: AleksPol
          Farion is not interested in the role of "Kollontai". R.o.zh.i did not come out
          And brains too!


          I think they’re all there for selection ... are they being cloned chtol? what
          1. thrower
            thrower April 17 2014 10: 41
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            I think they’re all there for selection ... are they being cloned chtol?


            I even know where.
      2. parus2nik
        parus2nik April 17 2014 13: 49
        +1
        Kollontai with Reisner LM, don’t confuse .. Larisa Reisner became the prototype of the woman commissar depicted in the play “Optimistic Tragedy” by Vsevolod Vishnevsky.
  23. individual
    individual April 17 2014 07: 34
    +2
    The most interesting thing is that somewhere around 20 American mercenaries and the USA were lost in shock.
    Previously, billions of dollars in Ukraine disappeared without a trace, but now the "wild geese" have flown away into obscurity, probably now helping the inhabitants of the South-East to plant potatoes.
    1. Andrey from Tver
      Andrey from Tver April 17 2014 08: 37
      +1
      Quote: individ
      Previously, billions of dollars disappeared without a trace in Ukraine, but now "wild geese" flew away into the unknown

      So the geese hunting season has already been opened ...
  24. inkass_98
    inkass_98 April 17 2014 08: 01
    +2
    Yes, of course, the elements of farce in Ukrainian events prevail over everything else, but the death of people immediately beats off all the laughter. The reason for the Maydan rage is understandable - in the East everything is done exactly according to the same scenario as in Kiev and other cities affected by the plague, but there were no victims and burning cops.
  25. AleksPol
    AleksPol April 17 2014 08: 07
    +1
    Assault on a military unit in Mariupol: one person died, 12 injured
    In the territory of the unit, the affected militias remain. There are fewer people at the military gates. However, gunshots are heard in the city itself. According to local media, as a result of the assault, one person died and 12 were injured. Five wounded were previously reported, at least one of them being a soldier
    http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1487040

    Are these fake victims too?
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  27. demotivator
    demotivator April 17 2014 08: 23
    +3
    Quote: inkass_98
    elements of farce in Ukrainian events prevail over everything else,

    A farce that turned into a boomerang for those who arranged it. Looking at how tridents are dropped from state institutions in Donetsk and smashed into small pieces, some bloggers - supporters of the Maidan lament and complain: “Why federalization is necessary to beat the coat of arms of Ukraine? Apparently, then, they really do not want any federalization. "? They will have to remind them that just a few months ago, the supporters of the Maidan, with the same enthusiasm, knocked down and smashed into small pieces the monument to V.I. Ulyanov-Lenin in Kiev. Then they staged a "Leninopoval" all over central and western Ukraine. And right-wing and liberal bloggers happily applauded this ... But Vladimir Ilyich is the very creator of the Ukrainian SSR, the legal successor of which is the current Ukrainian state. I wonder what would have happened to the United States of America if a jubilant crowd there with impunity knocked down monuments to George Washington and other founding fathers of the United States and mocked them to their heart's content? I think if this were possible, the United States would also be under the threat of collapse. And the reason, from the modern point of view, would not be difficult to find: for example, George Washington preserved the institution of slavery in the United States and was himself a rich slave-owner planter. Hit, crash!
    In general, they broke "monuments to totalitarianism" in the form of statues of Vladimir Ilyich - and, without noticing it, broke another, more global, "monument of totalitarianism" in the form of Ukraine itself (the former Ukrainian SSR). In general, if you started a Leninist party, get a trident. Newton's third law. Action is equal to reaction.
  28. Lyton
    Lyton April 17 2014 08: 42
    0
    But on the other hand, to think about what else these rulers should do, to raise the economy from ruins, they’re not capable of it, they’re scorching, think of themselves as military strategists, there’s nothing going on, and even money can beg for then you could fill your pockets, only the mattress covers and the EU saw them on one organ, they themselves aren’t enough. One way with a proud view of a bow to Russia through essno intermediaries.
  29. I am proud of Russia
    I am proud of Russia April 17 2014 09: 14
    0
    Quote: demotivator
    Quote: inkass_98
    elements of farce in Ukrainian events prevail over everything else,

    A farce that turned into a boomerang for those who arranged it. Looking at how tridents are dropped from state institutions in Donetsk and smashed into small pieces, some bloggers - supporters of the Maidan lament and complain: “Why federalization is necessary to beat the coat of arms of Ukraine? Apparently, then, they really do not want any federalization. "? They will have to remind them that just a few months ago, the supporters of the Maidan, with the same enthusiasm, knocked down and smashed into small pieces the monument to V.I. Ulyanov-Lenin in Kiev. Then they staged a "Leninopoval" all over central and western Ukraine. And right-wing and liberal bloggers happily applauded this ... But Vladimir Ilyich is the very creator of the Ukrainian SSR, the legal successor of which is the current Ukrainian state. I wonder what would have happened to the United States of America if a jubilant crowd there with impunity knocked down monuments to George Washington and other founding fathers of the United States and mocked them to their heart's content? I think if this were possible, the United States would also be under the threat of collapse. And the reason, from the modern point of view, would not be difficult to find: for example, George Washington preserved the institution of slavery in the United States and was himself a rich slave-owner planter. Hit, crash!
    In general, they broke "monuments to totalitarianism" in the form of statues of Vladimir Ilyich - and, without noticing it, broke another, more global, "monument of totalitarianism" in the form of Ukraine itself (the former Ukrainian SSR). In general, if you started a Leninist party, get a trident. Newton's third law. Action is equal to reaction.


    If we consider that people already have a different story in their heads and they don’t know any Ukrainian SSR and how it was created, and consider themselves great Ukrainians living on the globe of Ukraine, then Lenin is an evil Russian for them ... They have no history, it's a pity. One must still somehow break through the information blockade now. I don’t know how, but there are specialists who know and know how to do it. It is necessary to bring people out of the zombie state and faith that Russia is the first enemy. Who are they without Russia at all?
    1. thrower
      thrower April 17 2014 10: 44
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      Who are they without Russia at all?


      Without this, their fate is Poland or the Baltic states.
  30. chastener
    chastener April 17 2014 10: 44
    0
    Soon all Kiev power will be suspended at the heels!
  31. Docent1984
    Docent1984 April 17 2014 13: 01
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    Quote: inkass_98
    Klitschko will take on the role of a child, just by the level of development he draws years to 10-11.

    My friends have a boy 10 years old. You shouldn't have offended him so much - the boy will give this "point" a handicap of 5 years for sure)))
  32. Cynic
    Cynic April 17 2014 17: 49
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    Some sacred number _ twenty mercenaries and a curator, in total ...
    And all about this in passing, in passing.