The Kiev junta has no chance against the South-East. Arrangement of points over the "military operation"

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Western curators Kiev junta allowed to start a real civil war. No matter how much they deny it. The very fact of visits to Kiev by CIA Director John Brennan, and now also a whole US Vice President Joe Biden - speak not only about the importance of Ukraine in American strategic plans, but also about the controllability of the Kiev junta directly from Washington. And now the Kiev putschists are trying to find the strength and means to fulfill the orders of the owners. However, about this separately.

We note only one important point.

The United States and the Kiev junta do not stop accusing Russia of helping the insurgent Southeast. Meanwhile over Dnepropetrovsk, as this video shows,



the MK-1B Predator assault drone is circling and easily identified. This UAV was produced in the USA, was actively used in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan for reconnaissance and strikes with AGM-114 Hellfire missiles at terrorists and aboriginal weddings. Delivered only to Turkey, Italy, the United Arab Emirates and Morocco. And it is very doubtful that such a device belongs to the armed forces of Ukraine or any private collector like Kolomoisky.

Now for the reasons why the US is pushing the putschists to suppress the uprising of the Southeast. Now the general situation on the territory of the former Ukraine, as well as around it, is such that the junta can no longer be inactive. The American special services, which organized the February coup, are now not going to let the situation go, but now they are continuing to work on the transformation of Ukraine into an anti-Russian springboard. Why they can not hesitate?

Yes, because events in the South-East of Ukraine threaten all current plans. In order not to lose the ability to control the processes occurring in Ukraine, Americans need to have the following conditions:

1. Ukraine must maintain the status of a state entity, a subject of international law. This is necessary so that the Kiev junta has the opportunity to act at the interstate level as a legally equal partner and can conclude any interstate agreements. Simply put, as long as Ukraine maintains the formal status of a state (a territory in which uniform laws and authorities operate) - Washington does not need to agree on its future fate with Russia or even Brussels. You can sign anything in a bilateral format with Turchinov and Yatsenyuk.

2. Ukraine should remain a unitary state. This is important for the USA. As soon as local governments receive independence and the ability to make decisions, laws of local significance, negotiate contributions to the federal budget in exchange for respecting their interests, the central government in Kiev will automatically become a platform for compromises. Then, without taking into account the views of the South-East, it will be impossible to carry out any political decisions affecting the fate of Ukraine as a whole. Thus, the transformation of Ukraine into a federation or, more likely, into a confederation will mean for Washington the loss of Ukraine and its economically expedient rapprochement with Russia. This the United States will not allow. They are more satisfied with bloody civil strife and chaos than confederation and peaceful coexistence of all parts of Ukrainian society. As a result, at the current stage - the United States is ready to support any form of totalitarianism and the dictatorship of the Kiev junta, even if it organizes a real slaughter in the South-East.

3. The legitimacy of the seizure of power by agents of American interests must be confirmed by elections. Even if the free will of the Ukrainian people will be declared frank farce. Therefore, it is so important for the United States to suppress the resistance of the South-East. They need at least the appearance of compliance with the election procedure throughout the territory. If the elections are not held or are held in the conditions of an obvious (noticeable even in the Western media) revolt of a significant part of the population, the legitimacy of the junta will remain unconfirmed.

All three points are interconnected and describe the current situation, fixing the February success of the Americans in taking Ukraine under direct control. This position of the United States would like to leave unchanged. However, it is almost impossible, since the coup in Kiev has launched a number of processes that cannot be frozen or reversed. Their development will inevitably lead to a change in the balance of power and the loss by the Americans of the levers of influence on the development of the situation.

However, in this case, the United States is completely satisfied with the complete disorganization of Ukraine and its transformation into the territory of chaos. And pushing the Kiev junta to actively suppress the uprising of the Southeast — the United States loses nothing for any outcome.

Now about the disposition of forces inside Ukraine. And why the junta in Kiev has no chance of crushing the uprising.

The resistance forces made the most important step for the success of their struggle - they took in hand weapon. Now, on the territory of Lugansk and Donetsk regions, the militia rooms of police departments take control of the rebels (with the transfer of personnel to the side of the people's self-government bodies). Weapons are captured during transportation between warehouses and redeployed units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The warehouses and places of permanent deployment are monitored by resistance forces or blocked by activists. Roadblocks and highways are also organized, which greatly complicates the maneuvering of forces that are formally still subject to the junta. Work is underway to attract units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and law enforcement agencies to the side of the people.

We should also separately mention the city of Slavyansk, which has become one of the main lines of defense, as well as a place of provocation, which was supposed to unleash a lot of bloodshed. Slavyansk is the most important road and rail transport hub. It adjoins the key highway Kharkiv - Rostov, it starts from the highway to Donetsk and further to Mariupol. In operational terms, the control of transport routes in the Slavyansk and Kramatorsk areas will not allow retaliators to retaliate to Donetsk and Luhansk from the north-west. That is, Slavyansk and Kramatorsk cover Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republic. Since the organization of the resistance forces is occupied by former and current military personnel, as well as law enforcement officers - they just could not help but take care of the reliability of their defensive positions. To strengthen Slavyansk, the Lugansk Army of the Southeast yesterday, by the way, sent a detachment of volunteers.

Now the uprising can no longer be strangled by "pinpoint" strikes against individual captured buildings. And the original plan of the so-called "anti-terrorist operation" involved inflicting aviation bomb strikes on strongholds of the resistance forces (in particular, on the "Luhansk Fortress" - the building of the SBU), followed by a cleanup by foreign mercenaries. Now this "limited-scale" operation plan will simply not bring results - the self-defense forces are numerous and dispersed over many strong points over a significant area. To suppress an uprising of this scale, a full-fledged military operation is needed, it is necessary to attract significant forces.

And the junta has no such forces - attention - no.

As we have repeatedly written, the armed forces are more likely to be a potential danger to the junta than its power tools. There is no desire to shoot at one’s own people while performing a punitive operation on the servicemen and their commanders. But the transition to the side of the rebels (or at least disobeying orders) - is already observed with might and main. So, the provocation near Slavyansk was supposed to “motivate” the units of the 25-th brigade of the Airborne Forces of Ukraine to open fire on self-defense activists. And led to the opposite result - to the transition to the side of the people, which the paratroopers and sworn.

The local militia and internal troops are already (with a few exceptions) on the side of the rebels. Formal (but inactive) loyalty to the junta is maintained only by units of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Security Service of Ukraine, hastily transferred from the western regions. The degree of their loyalty is indicated by location separately from local units of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Thus, the territory of the Donetsk Military Engineering School has been turned into a stronghold of groups of explosives and SBU, with which the junta tried to strengthen the local police. However, those locked in there are preparing not for an “anti-terrorist operation”, but for their own defense. They are waiting for the fate of the Crimean armed forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, betrayed by their own command. And most likely - they understand this perfectly.

The idea of ​​creating the so-called "national guard", which was supposed to become such "alternative internal troops", which would be staffed by nationalists and therefore be able to shoot at their own fellow citizens - which is already quite obviously failed. It was simply not possible to collect the necessary number of scumbags (including because part of the most radical Nazi groups boycotted the “Turchinov army”). And those who still managed to attract, were not only little combat-ready, but also poorly controlled. The junta has ceased to count on them as a capable power tool.

Now the junta, fulfilling the order of Washington, is trying to create a new structure. This time it will be called the "corps of the special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs", which is planned to be recruited locally again from radical Nazis (of whom else?), Cautiously called "civilian formations." “Patriotic volunteers” are promised to pay well — far better than soldiers. However, as a result, the forces that are loyal to the junta will finally turn into a variegated vinaigrette, which is poorly controlled and therefore incapable. And besides, not quite ready to fulfill any order.

All recent movements of the junta (including the transfer of heavy military equipment to the South-East) are more likely to be hysterical than effective. In fact, the junta is only capable of provocation. And, most likely, she will take care of them. Strengthened forces in the South-East - specially trained provocateurs - will provoke a discovery of fire on the rebels. The rebels will be provoked to open fire on those who were driven "to suppress". And this “antiterrorist operation” simply cannot lead to the success of the junta. Only to bloodshed, mutual bitterness and the beginning of a real civil war.
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  1. fimusito
    +55
    April 17 2014 16: 21
    Great commander - high rank
    1. +18
      April 17 2014 16: 59
      And Mishiko probably pulled the paper out of old stocks
      1. Validator
        +10
        April 17 2014 17: 20
        Yes, it looks like the junta is not capable of any serious action. They will "seize" airfields, clear some unguarded checkpoints and defend military units with shooting in order to be aware of the information background. And puffing out your cheeks to talk about a cunning multi-stage plan.
        1. +5
          April 17 2014 18: 03
          Reminds the actions of "Komsomol members of the Emergency Committee.
          1. jjj
            +7
            April 17 2014 18: 31
            It has already been called anti-terrorist imitation. The good news is that strength has increased and it is dispersed. And, as I think, a lot, fortunately, in the actions of self-defense does not fall into the field of view of cameras
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          4. 120352
            -9
            April 18 2014 00: 36
            Lavrov today in Geneva surrendered the Southeast, urging him to surrender his weapons and free up occupied buildings. Perhaps they will surrender. But the right sector is not! And then just the carnage will begin.
            And now about the authority of Russia in the South-West, you can now forget ...
            Even on TV (Russia-24, LUFENEUS) there is no operational information, not to mention live broadcasts. Everything is only yesterday or morning. It seems that a command has been given: there is no need to attract more public interest in these events.
            And the states will now, under the guise of providing military assistance, solve all their problems in Ukraine, including delivering missiles, and anti-Russian propaganda will be strengthened even more and will begin to prepare Ukrainians for war with Russia.
            What will we answer? Or have you already given up?
            1. +5
              April 18 2014 02: 09
              Quote: 120352
              Lavrov today in Geneva surrendered the Southeast, urging him to surrender his weapons and free up occupied buildings.

              Have you tried reading RIA Novosti? Last messages - after 23:XNUMX. And something does not say that "Lavrov passed"! Or did you watch the meeting online? It was said that ALL illegal formations should be disarmed, and especially - that without disarming the Pravosek it will be impossible to convince the South-East to surrender weapons!
              By the way, Lavrov could not "surrender" anyone by definition: he expresses the position of the political leadership of the COUNTRY, and not his own. You should not show disrespect to a worthy person!
              1. dmb
                +2
                April 18 2014 09: 13
                Minuses to put, you don't need a lot of brains. Well, I don't like it. Have you tried to think? You can recall the recent past, when a certain Yanukovych, a certain European Union also promised a lot. You can remember who the National Guard consists of, which is quite legal, according to Kiev, an armed formation. It can be understood that, unlike the scared militiamen and poorly organized eastern militias, the "Right Sector" is organized, has the combat experience of an ordinary bandit formation and is not going to surrender weapons at all. At the same time, you can remember how long it took to liquidate the bandit underground under Soviet rule, but then they did not stand on ceremony and did not remember about democracy. Now, if we recall all this, then even the unintelligent admirers of the "wise leader" should doubt the implementation of the accords reached in Geneva.
                1. 0
                  April 18 2014 09: 52
                  Quote: 120352
                  Lavrov today in Geneva surrendered the Southeast, urging him to surrender his weapons and free up occupied buildings.

                  Quote: avia1991
                  It is said that ALL illegal formations should be disarmed, and especially that without disarming the law-enforcement officers, it will be impossible to convince the South-East to surrender their weapons!


                  Quote: dmb
                  Now, if we recall all this, then even the unintelligent admirers of the "wise leader" should doubt the implementation of the accords reached in Geneva.


                  Greetings, Dmitry.

                  It seems to me that these agreements are not for their observance and enforcement.
                  This is a purely political and bureaucratic formality, they say, here we tried to reason the conflicting parties (and those who stand behind them), but they did not listen to us and now we wash our hands (we proceed to open support for our own and, possibly, active actions ) And this applies both to our leadership and to the western. An empty formality, a protocol to justify their subsequent actions to the world and Russian public, History.
                  And everyone up there understands this. It is only forums that have heated discussions, calls, recriminations and brandishing slogans, and TAM has already calculated (and almost everything) everything and decided.
                  All that we are fed in the form of official messages and information is just a cover, fog, smoke screen designed to hide the true intentions and plans of action
                  1. dmb
                    +1
                    April 18 2014 10: 50
                    Hello Vladimir. All this is so, but is it bad or good for us? In the discussion of the article about journalist Babaev, there is a comment by Santor. He logically substantiates that the introduction of troops is, well ... pa. Only time and our joint painstaking work can contribute to unification.
            2. R1a1a
              -10
              April 18 2014 02: 58
              Yes, the Russian authorities betrayed the southeast yesterday, betrayed their Russian and Russian-speaking population and the historical territory of Novorossia, otherwise it is impossible to name the demand to surrender weapons and liberate buildings where the rebels took up defenses. But for me this is not surprising, because Lavrov has been assuring the "world community" several times a day for the past two weeks that Russia is not going to send troops into eastern Ukraine. I would very much like to know what the West scared the top of Russia with, and Putin had already taken permission from the Federation Council to send troops, but after Crimea something happened and Putin and Lavrov had no clean diapers left from fright, pressure, west. And without the support of Russia, the rebels donbass have not the slightest chance of victory, and after this betrayal, their fighting spirit will come to naught, and they will drown in their blood in 5-6 years, the first American military bases will appear in Donbas, their unmanned vehicles are already flying over the Dnieper ... Well, in my eyes, Putin is just a cheap yap, a two-faced skin living by morality - both ours and yours.
              1. +3
                April 18 2014 03: 29
                Please climb back, it smells strongly.
              2. 0
                April 18 2014 08: 25
                The self-defense of the South-East is strong enough to oppose and defend its interests. And if you want to convince yourself that Russia has lost and United Ukraine, with the support of the United States, defeated "bloody Putin", I recommend that you stand in front of the mirror and repeat like a mantra: "Glory to Ukraine", "Glory to the Heroes" is all you have left.
              3. +1
                April 18 2014 08: 32
                Did you sniff something or read the Western press? So there is still not such a thing to read. Read about the existence of the globe of Ukraine in the Ukrainian press? Well, this is your nonsense from the same opera.
            3. 0
              April 18 2014 08: 19
              Well, they’ve made fun, would you at least have looked at analytics or something, not only Russian, but also political scientists and high-ranking officials in the EU and the USA have repeatedly said that there will be no military support for Ukraine, no membership in NATO. Although you can continue to hope and dream.
      2. +8
        April 17 2014 17: 42
        Quote: Coffee_time
        And Mishiko probably pulled the paper out of old stocks

        b / a
      3. +4
        April 17 2014 18: 48
        Nat, I spent all of mine. This paper is fresh.
        Mishiko.
      4. +10
        April 17 2014 20: 59
        He also chewed it to be softer, tried very hard.
      5. 0
        April 18 2014 02: 56
        Quote: Coffee_time
        And Mishiko probably pulled the paper out of old stocks


        Nope, Mishiko can only supply edible ties, and delivering shit paper is the lot of the USA. After all, the USA is the source of stench on Earth.
    2. +28
      April 17 2014 17: 07
      It’s time in Ukraine to announce the year of culture!
      1. +2
        April 17 2014 22: 59
        Quote: svetlomor
        It’s time in Ukraine to announce the year of culture!

        Politeness takes islands and continents.
    3. +31
      April 17 2014 17: 35
      Quote: fimusito
      Great commander - high rank

      Humor from Ruleva laughing Dedicated to the great city commander!
    4. +21
      April 17 2014 18: 12
      The main thing is to avoid "shady" sentiments. All this "junta army" is provided with NATO information support. And no one is immune from moles. The entire Pentagon budget does not pay for one Russian soul lost due to betrayal. The GRU and the FSB must contribute to the common cause.
    5. Sinara70
      0
      April 17 2014 21: 52
      Well !!!!
      Neither in P..U, nor in the Red Army !!!!
      They won’t take it !!!!
      HOW WITHOUT went out !!!!
      Not worth it !!!
      Do not feed ... for your age is still enough .....
      It happens!!!
    6. Sinara70
      0
      April 17 2014 21: 52
      Well !!!!
      Neither in P..U, nor in the Red Army !!!!
      They won’t take it !!!!
      HOW WITHOUT went out !!!!
      Not worth it !!!
      Do not feed ... for your age is still enough .....
      It happens!!!
  2. +24
    April 17 2014 16: 25
    Putin said we will help our own anyway, so sho chance dumb!
  3. +19
    April 17 2014 16: 25
    Meanwhile, over Dnepropetrovsk, as this video shows,
    The MQ-1B Predator drone reconnaissance drone circles and easily identifies. This UAV was manufactured in the United States and was actively used in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan for reconnaissance and striking with AGM-114 Hellfire missiles against terrorists and weddings of the indigenous population. Delivered only to Turkey, Italy, the UAE and Morocco.
    To show this video in the UN Security Council, they will answer that it’s the Moroccan king who arrived to visit Turchinov ..
    Now the uprising can no longer be stifled by "targeted" strikes on individual captured buildings. And the initial plan of the so-called “anti-terrorist operation” called for air strikes at strongholds of the resistance forces (in particular, the Lugansk Fortress - the SBU building), followed by mopping-up by foreign mercenaries.
    But why does the junta drag MLRS "Grad" to the cities? Plan with dotted look in carpets?
    1. +11
      April 17 2014 16: 30
      It is necessary to help Dnipropetrovsk clean the sky over the city, and say that we are not! :))
      1. +19
        April 17 2014 18: 07
        Quote: ASed
        It is necessary to help Dnipropetrovsk clean the sky over the city, and say that we are not! :))

        "Needles" fit and say what else are Soviet, from the warehouses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces - go and check. Although, for such a drone, the old "Arrow" will work fine, if such are still stored in storage and are efficient. And if you walk at low altitudes, then a well-located DShK will be enough.
        1. +3
          April 17 2014 20: 15
          Quote: Nagan
          "Needles" fit and say what else are Soviet, from the warehouses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces - go and check.


          In! It is high time.
          America drives weapons to the rebels in Syria across the whole ocean, And we next door ...
    2. +24
      April 17 2014 17: 22
      Victor, welcome!
      They no longer know what they should be. Where to escape and from whom to escape ... Here is new news from Gulyai-Pole.
      Verkhovna Rada decided to resume conscription. The Bvyardites-Banderaites and hard-working hard-working men are clearly not enough for cannon fodder.

      KIEV, April 17. / ITAR-TASS /. The Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine adopted a decree recommending that Alexander Turchinov, who is appointed by the Parliament as Acting President of the country, study the feasibility of renewing the draft in the Ukrainian army. The corresponding draft resolution was supported by 231 deputies with the minimum required 226.

      The draft resolution contains, in particular, a recommendation to the Ministry of Education to study the issue of expanding primary military training in schools in the course "Defending the Fatherland" and resuming the work of military departments at universities. The Ministry of Defense, in turn, is encouraged to consider deploying training centers for volunteers.

      It was previously assumed that the draft in the army, announced in Ukraine in the fall of 2013, will be the last, and then the country's armed forces will be formed on a contract basis.
      link
      For what they fought since the time of the Rotten Mordan, they ran into it.
      1. +6
        April 17 2014 18: 51
        A good sign to lift your spirits. It must be hung in all cities of Ukraine.
        Funeral Home Welcome.
    3. Artem1967
      +2
      April 17 2014 19: 41
      This is a warm hello to our armies. Apparently, they understand that sooner or later we will have to protect people.
  4. +26
    April 17 2014 16: 26
    This is a raptor. You never know ... do not figure it out and throw their bacon)
  5. +10
    April 17 2014 16: 26
    all their gestures and speech are reminiscent of the theater of the absurd and the clowning.
  6. +45
    April 17 2014 16: 27
    Attention! how to heal the equipment ready to shoot civilians from the technology ready to go over to the side of the people! smile
  7. +21
    April 17 2014 16: 28
    From the network ....
    About the events near the military unit of Mariupol.

    "In the evening, a group of Mariupol protesters led by Vladimir Khabarov, together with the mothers of conscripts, went to the military unit to meet with the command staff to obtain an agreement on the release and withdrawal from the territory of a part of the employees whose service life had expired. started chanting chants and shouting slogans: "Army with the people!", "Golden eagle!"

    About 300 people gathered for the rally. None of the people had weapons! In part, to meet with the command, a parliamentarian from the protesters was sent. He was given 10 minutes to find out all the questions. When about half an hour of fruitless waiting, people began to worry, the situation began to get out of control. Some of the protesters began to put pressure on the leaf from the gate, and when it fell, they began to push the GAZ truck standing next to it through the opening.

    When he drove into the opening there were automatic bursts aimed in the air. And almost immediately the direction of the lines changed to defeat, which was noticeable on the tracers. Queues ran through the crowd of citizens in a panic scattering along the street. The wounded were dragged from the line of fire and pulled away from the broken gate. For unknown reasons, grenades with gas flew into the crowd.

    - I helped carry an elderly man in the leg and chest, the bullet hit exactly in the middle of the chest and, apparently, he was already killed. - One of the eyewitnesses tells. Among the shot dead an elderly woman and three men. At least 10 people were injured. The city executive committee carried the wounded for first aid. They drove on the first cars that turned up by the arm. Self-defense fighters began feverishly filling the bottles with incendiary mixture and taking them to the place of the battle.

    - They brought a teenage wounded man to the chest, but it seemed to be a minor wound. A man with a gunshot wound, a wounded man in the stomach, was given first aid and dragged to an ambulance. Already on the way to the ambulance, his breathing became intermittent and he began to say that it was hard for him to breathe. A little later we learned that he died on the way to the hospital.

    After fleeing and gathering at the city executive committee by people frightened by the shooting and murder, a general decision was spontaneously made to protect people in the city executive committee by blocking roads and entrances to the city executive committee building. To this end, trolleybuses, gazelles and cars were deployed across the roads. Gaps were made with benches. All this was about one in the morning. People stood at the symbolic barricades until the early morning, anxiously awaiting the arrival in armored personnel carriers of people who were shooting at the military unit. Now there are about 500 people at the building of the city executive committee. This is a short description of what happened. I am sure that we will receive a more detailed report later. "

    (c)) Special correspondent Yuri Gizha.
    1. zzz
      zzz
      +10
      April 17 2014 16: 58
      And how to build a common state with such creatures ?!
      1. zzz
        zzz
        +5
        April 17 2014 19: 10
        Kramatorsk. The Ukrainian army crushes tanks civilians
    2. +8
      April 17 2014 17: 17
      "When he drove into the opening, machine gun fires were heard, directed into the air. And almost immediately the direction of the bursts changed to defeat, which was noticeable by the tracers. The queues passed through the crowd of townspeople,"

      Here are the candidates for the dock.
      1. MG42
        +16
        April 17 2014 17: 36
        Here, in a video, a man yells into a megaphone to let ambulances pass by to pick up the wounded, in response to random shooting from automatic weapons
    3. +4
      April 17 2014 18: 53
      Yes, these are already animals.
    4. +9
      April 17 2014 19: 19
      Half an hour ago, the acting act was shown. all in all, it’s possible in Ukraine, asshole Turchinov. This miracle, viciously moving wild boar eyes squeezed out of their ever-unshaven buttocks that paratroopers who refused to shoot at the people and gave BMD to the residents of Kramatorsk would be prosecuted. Part will be disbanded. neck-and-forth, but when will you start shooting people? Yes, come on, well! Whoever refused is a criminal. And he doesn’t take anything from this infection. Probably, the infection does not catch the infection.
      1. +2
        April 17 2014 20: 02
        Quote: revnagan
        Half an hour ago, the acting act was shown. all in all, it’s possible in Ukraine, asshole Turchinov. This miracle, viciously moving wild boar eyes squeezed out of their ever-unshaven buttocks that paratroopers who refused to shoot at the people and gave BMD to the residents of Kramatorsk would be prosecuted. Part will be disbanded. neck-and-forth, but when will you start shooting people? Yes, come on, well! Whoever refused is a criminal. And he doesn’t take anything from this infection. Probably, the infection does not catch the infection.

        New Ukrainian heroes! The first were the soldiers of the "golden eagle" and now paratroopers!
    5. +1
      April 18 2014 06: 03
      What the hell carried them there at one in the morning? What negotiations at such a time? Why not in the afternoon? Or did the new pop Gapon show up there? Provocation of pure water. And in her hand she is only a junta. Sorry for the people of course.
    6. 0
      April 18 2014 08: 54
      But what about the reports that this is a provocation of law-abductors? And why did people go there late in the evening, and not in the afternoon? Somehow, all this is contradictory. Where is the truth?
  8. Arh
    +8
    April 17 2014 16: 31
    Southeast Stand and show zapadentsev how to live !!!
  9. Andrey82
    +9
    April 17 2014 16: 32
    The forces that the junta can use in punitive operations against the rebels of the Southeast, these are, first of all, American mercenaries, parts of the special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs from app. regions of Ukraine (Jaguar), the most combat-ready militants of the Bandera Right Sector, and the so-called Nat Guard. The number may fluctuate in the region of 2-3 thousand people.
    1. +8
      April 17 2014 17: 02
      And they will disappear on quiet Ukrainian nights in the forests of 20 people
  10. +4
    April 17 2014 16: 32
    Vile Nazi
    The country's dirty politicians are mostly moral
    how you got us Nazism ....
  11. +11
    April 17 2014 16: 33
    I’ll tell you more, I’m Dnepropetrovsk myself, was on business in the center of Dn - sk, not at a great height, a pair of Mig 29 passed twice over the city. :)

    Why over a peaceful city?

    For what purpose ?

    What was suspended or empty did not make out, but this is a fact, I personally saw ....
    1. Andrey82
      +11
      April 17 2014 16: 36
      Why over a peaceful city?

      For what purpose ?

      With the goal of crazy. pressure on the psyche of people so that they don’t take to the streets, they are afraid and do not think of protesting against the junta, or else ...
  12. +3
    April 17 2014 16: 36
    It's just some kind of clowns. The circus is resting ....
    1. sasha127
      +6
      April 17 2014 18: 17
      Quote: Russian quilted jacket
      It's just some kind of clowns. The circus is resting ....

      They are not clowns, they are puppet dolls run by the CIA.
  13. +5
    April 17 2014 16: 37
    That would not be unfounded; !!! moreover, such cases are not only in Dn-sk.

    Also, the flight was seen by residents of three more regional centers in southeastern Ukraine.

    Residents of Dnepropetrovsk, Kharkov, Donetsk and Lugansk on Monday noticed fighters in the sky above their cities.

    So, about 16 hours two fighter planes flew over Dnepropetrovsk.

    “Citizens observed them in the area of ​​the Victory massif and the left bank. A few minutes later, the fighters swept over the very center of the city, ”write Vesti.

    The Ministry of Defense reported to the publication that these are scheduled flights of the MiG-29.

    “This is not an invasion of foreign air forces, but Ukrainian planes,” the Ministry of Defense said in the Dnepropetrovsk regional media center.

    http://gorod.dp.ua/news/90118

    Paranoia wassat

    1. +3
      April 17 2014 17: 05
      And you don’t think that a stolen MANPADS needle may come up in March for provocation. They will bring down a plane or turntable and will yell again.
    2. sasha127
      +10
      April 17 2014 18: 27
      Well, actually, the photo is not MiG-29 but Su-27. In the Ministry of Defense, apparently, they don’t know what they have in the air.
    3. jjj
      +6
      April 17 2014 18: 34
      This is not MiG, but Su
  14. +20
    April 17 2014 16: 38
    I think Southeast needs to create their own state. And it will not be necessary to feed the Western Bandera. And they will distribute the money themselves. And RUSSIA will help. Orders will be at enterprises and discounts on gas, etc. So RUSSIA will be with you. drinks
    1. MG42
      +12
      April 17 2014 16: 53
      In a democratic way, this cannot be done in any way.
      1. +6
        April 17 2014 20: 07
        Quote: MG42
        In a democratic way, this cannot be done in any way.

        Only with a kind word and a gun! That is, a warrior-feed (generals forgot about food for soldiers!) And drink, Natsykov-shoot
        1. MG42
          +5
          April 17 2014 20: 53
          Russia’s support is needed here, as soon as they rebuild the full vertical of the security forces, replacing the local police with zapadents and thugs with local ones, there are few of them in the East of Ukraine, but there will be repressions.
        2. 0
          April 18 2014 04: 48
          Well, you are following the right path, citizens of New Russia! in your republic, there is already an armed forces (legal HF airborne forces!) make a decision to transfer it from the subordination of Kiev to the subordination of Donetsk. the junta won is simple on the Independence Square screaming and appointed ministers-x and with comrade and everything is legal, so do not worry, issue your decree and FSU for all. make out the militia mobilized, I think the lawyers of the Russian Federation will help with legal international gadgets
    2. +12
      April 17 2014 17: 07
      Quote: cerbuk6155
      I think Southeast needs to create their own state. And it will not be necessary to feed the Western Bandera.

      This is why they are trying to create a federation! But the "current" do not like it! Why did they seize Kiev, if all the money goes "past the cash desk" in the form of their pockets! With the federation, the deductions to the center will be only after everything is distributed on the spot, but to the center ... to the pension fund there, what else is there for little things ...
      1. +2
        April 18 2014 02: 38
        Quote: Egoza
        So for this they are trying to create a federation!

        This is what the media say in our media: "supporters of federalization." They themselves do not yet have a single opinion: either a referendum, or federalization ... or simply "hear us!" The final communique following the four-way meeting is very vague! Therefore, it seems that if the South-East wants to preserve itself, they need to separate, without waiting for the elections: to hold their own referendum, create their own power structure and the Republic, and sign a Treaty of Friendship and Mutual Assistance with Russia - incl. military .. Although .. this is just my personal opinion. Advising is a thankless task request winked
  15. +6
    April 17 2014 16: 38
    The article is sensible. God forbid that everything would develop in such a way
  16. +7
    April 17 2014 16: 38
    It’s a very optimistic article. But it seems to me that there are a lot of freaks capable of shedding a lot of blood on completely legitimate (for Kiev) reasons. And the blood has already spilled in Mariupol. So you need to be very careful and strong. Hold on, brothers! Russia is with you!
  17. +4
    April 17 2014 16: 39
    The Kiev junta has only two choices: either accept the Russian conditions for federalization, or the country will break up into several components.
    1. +4
      April 17 2014 20: 04
      Quote: vasyliy1
      The Kiev junta has only two choices: either accept the Russian conditions for federalization, or the country will break up into several components.


      And in both cases, nothing good awaits them, and the overseas owners demand that neither the first nor the second be allowed and they do not offer any remuneration, they say that it is necessary to work off the $ 5 billion already spent on "democracy", otherwise they will be punished. As they say, wherever you throw - everywhere a wedge. hi
  18. MG42
    +14
    April 17 2014 16: 44
    A physician from the city of Chuguev who took part in the anti-Maidan in Kharkov on April 13 was arrested today under Art. 296 part 4 "malicious mass hooliganism with the use of special items and weapons" at least 3 years in prison and somewhere 7 threatens.

    http://nbnews.com.ua/ru/news/118877/
    1. +9
      April 17 2014 16: 57
      Quote: MG42
      A physician from the city of Chuguev who took part in the anti-Maidan in Kharkov on April 13 was arrested today under Art. 296 part 4 "malicious mass hooliganism with the use of special items and weapons" at least 3 years in prison and somewhere 7 threatens.

      In general, they are capable of something, except how to start things, for all in a row.
      1. MG42
        +7
        April 17 2014 17: 03
        In Kharkov, dozens of people arrested for the seizure of the Regional State Administration early on April 7, today 65 people were arrested in Mariupol, 3 killed 16 wounded
        This photo is from the stripping of the RSA in Kharkov on April 8
        1. +3
          April 18 2014 00: 17
          Quote: MG42
          This photo is from the stripping of the RSA in Kharkov on April 8

          Edren-loaf ... Back in the fall, when they came to my mother-in-law, they left the car right there ...
          You refuse to believe ...
      2. MG42
        +10
        April 17 2014 17: 27
        It’s still the arrests apparently from impotence, when there were arrests on April 7, probably they thought no one would protest in Kharkov, but there’s no big wreck, on April 13 I shot this video on my phone
        for the umpteenth time in Kharkov banderlog was dispersed >>>
  19. zzz
    zzz
    +6
    April 17 2014 16: 45
    Loved the article!
  20. Tanechka-clever
    +8
    April 17 2014 16: 45
    "In reality, the junta is only capable of provocations. And, most likely, it will deal with them" - the author is right, activists are already disappearing. In Soviet times, our journalism was the strongest in the world - and today its revival is obvious. Today, at a meeting between Putin and the people, I saw Irina Khakamada's speech and her pathetic excuse to justify her corruption to the West for a visa. I would like to hope that the time of such would-be-selling and cheap politicians is passing and their place will be taken by worthy journalists, who will be closer and more expensive than a visa to the EU and the USA for the interests of their country. Already today, many are honestly working in Ukraine. Thank you for the article
  21. +4
    April 17 2014 16: 47
    Fools climbed onto the tree, and there are no laws that will help them get down without consequences.
  22. tnship2
    +8
    April 17 2014 16: 48
    All these demarches are nothing more than a cover for the basic plan of the United States to destroy the industrial ties between our two countries. They are ruining the Ukrainian economy. These criminals in Kiev are fully aware of their actions. It’s even hard to imagine the worst betrayal. Nothing sacred. The worst crime is happening right in front of the lenses. thousand cameras and Western hypocrites sweep a verbal blizzard. People who usurped power in Kiev are quite suitable for articles on crimes against their own population.
  23. +4
    April 17 2014 16: 50
    And here's the news ... "Special operation" hunt "in underpants ....

    Ukrainian army lacks uniforms
    .

    .
    17 April 2014 years 15: 55


    Moscow. April 17th. INTERFAX.RU - Current equipment of the Ukrainian army with military uniforms is currently estimated at 30-40%, according to the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.

    According to Arkady Stuzhuk, deputy head of the department of organizing the supply of clothing and equipment for the Ministry of Defense, at a briefing in Kiev on Thursday, the current supply of clothing to the Armed Forces is between 30-40%, and army ammunition — body armor and helmets — are the biggest problem.

    "This situation (aggravation in Ukraine - IF) took us by surprise," he said.

    As the representative of the military department noted, in order to resolve the issue of providing the army with proper military uniforms, the leadership of the military department turned to international organizations for help, and orders were also made for the supply of special products to Ukrainian manufacturers.

    "France has already supplied us with bulletproof vests for humanitarian aid," he said.

    According to Stuzhuk, at the same time, the leadership of the military department decided to develop a new experimental form for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which corresponds to modern world trends. Ukrainian industry has already joined in solving this problem, he noted.

    Answering journalists' questions, the representative of the Ministry of Defense also noted that out of UAH 100 million received in the accounts of the military department as part of charitable assistance to the population of Ukraine, UAH 51,8 million has already been allocated to clothing support.

    Most of these funds have already been used to purchase essential equipment, including bulletproof vests and bedroom bags for military personnel.

    And Th is very creative, but not hot, the disguise is excellent ... laughing
    1. MG42
      +7
      April 17 2014 16: 56
      On March 29, in the evening, a consignment of assistance from the American government arrived in Ukraine for the Ukrainian Armed Forces by road. This was reported in the regional media center of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine (Lviv). In particular, it is 25 thousand boxes with the American dry ration MRE, that is about 330 thousand sets. The transfer of assistance from the United States was carried out by a representative of the Department of Defense Cooperation at the US Embassy in Ukraine, Major Alexis Scott. From Ukraine, assistance was received by Colonel Alexander Ostrovsky, head of the department for the implementation of international treaties of the General Directorate of Military Cooperation and Peacekeeping Operations of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
      Source: fakty.ictv.ua
    2. +4
      April 17 2014 17: 21
      .... Bulletproof vests are light .... Kalash punches right through ...
      1. +7
        April 17 2014 17: 50
        I completely agree .. their practical armies did not take part in the hostilities, they are mainly focused on gendarme tasks .. if they are, and besides them nobody participates in clashes, they mainly fight with the use of drones, or aviation, and then with the civilian population, then do not be puzzled by the creation of solid equipment .. load and our army armor yes + b / c, it is unlikely to withstand the load ..
    3. +2
      April 17 2014 22: 09
      on one Ukrainian website they calculated how much tanks, planes, helicopters could be modernized with this money, but it turned out that even this ammunition would not be enough for them (30-40% provided, and half was no longer)
  24. +10
    April 17 2014 16: 54
    Hypothetically simulate the situation, suppose one of the junta’s combat aircraft turns around and flies in the direction of the Supreme Rada, there are all the enemies of Ukraine, the pilot releases the entire stuffing of his car into a cancerous tumor, in principle, is this the complete end of the junta, or is one aircraft not enough?
    1. 0
      April 18 2014 02: 47
      Not enough ammunition. Squadron attack required. Plus, work out the cannons on the Maidan to clean the right-handed bearers from there ..
  25. +29
    April 17 2014 17: 00
    They already started to guess feel
    1. +4
      April 17 2014 17: 18
      Damn, where do you find all this?))) Talent good
    2. +3
      April 17 2014 17: 19
      belay laughing Themselves asked for good
  26. Gagarin
    +5
    April 17 2014 17: 07
    EXCELLENT ARTICLE - THANKS!
  27. I am Russian
    +22
    April 17 2014 17: 14
    Adventures of the Ukrainian-juntian army in the Donbass
  28. +7
    April 17 2014 17: 16
    Quote: Tersky
    But why does the junta drag MLRS "Grad" to the cities? Plan with dotted look in carpets?

    And they have the same main consultant, a Georgian tie-eater.
  29. +7
    April 17 2014 17: 16
    Turchynov will not get the Donetsk prefix to his surname .. Not fate ... But the tit threatened to set fire to the sea ..
    1. +5
      April 17 2014 20: 29
      Quote: parusnik
      Turchynov will not get the Donetsk prefix to his surname .. Not fate ... But the tit threatened to set fire to the sea ..


      But it can be safely called - pan-ataman Beztavrichesky ... wassat
  30. +4
    April 17 2014 17: 17
    Quote: Tersky
    But why does the junta drag MLRS "Grad" to the cities? Plan with dotted look in carpets?

    To scare the rebels, plus to oppose something to the potential Russian invasion, plus to provoke. If they open fire from the city of Grad on the rebels, then not to avoid the great casualties among non-combatants and the destruction of civilian civilian infrastructure - they will be war criminals, plus they will receive a blow from the Russian army.
  31. +7
    April 17 2014 17: 17
    Sending PS and radicals to the East and Southeast of Ukraine (still Ukraine) is most likely the planned disposal of those who are currently interfering with the Kiev junta. No, but how else will they get rid of them differently and have nothing to do with their destruction.
    1. +6
      April 17 2014 18: 52
      Quote: Belarus
      Sending PS and radicals to the East and Southeast of Ukraine (

      Network...

      "A large crowd of protesters is blocking the Donetsk airport, there are many cars with St. George ribbons in the square in front of the airport. Apparently, people are going to take control of a strategically important facility. The military are looking at the protesters from the windows."
      “Several hundred activists from the 'Donetsk people's republic' and about 50 fighters from the disbanded special unit of the Ministry of Internal Affairs 'Berkut' have come to the airport. They are trying to take control of the airport. The administration expresses solidarity with the activists and accepts the conditions in connection with the proclamation of the DPR.
      The administration is ready to transfer the airport under the control of the DPR. However, the airport building was captured by people in black uniform: snipers from the SVD are sitting on its roof, whom activists identify as fighters of the internal troops of Ukraine.
      The representative of the presidium of the Donetsk republic went in an elevator to negotiate with the deputy director of the airport "
  32. +15
    April 17 2014 17: 18
    vik858
    15 April, 17: 04
    Quiet Ukrainian night! The yelling on the Maidan fell silent.
    To help all homosexuals, Klitschko scribbles a letter to Obama:
    “My dear black-assed friend! Send us a couple of billion!
    And then zayets Yatsenyuk blew our Crimea of ​​Russia into backgammon! ”
    Sashko put on an oak tailcoat, And he’s not running already to attack,
    Our Tyagnibok put his shot-through jacket into the fray!
    Yarosh wanted to blow a pipe, But they called from Europe,
    They said if he was a cook, they would put a pipe in his ass!
    Julia’s roof was blown away, Diagon shakes and hits with a hoof
    - She recently flashed at a closed party meeting!
    Obama scratched his eggs, Put his tail with a gun,
    And he sent American biscuits to Klitschko in Kiev!
    The moral of this fable is simple, but I want to remind you without a scream
    : Oh, if you got into *** - Sit quietly there, don’t tweet ...

    (from neta)
  33. +14
    April 17 2014 17: 22
    Impromptu, slept on his knee. I’m very partial to this Krutov, I’ll try to continue.
    1. +2
      April 17 2014 23: 09
      So do I. Ear would tear this enema to Cool. Still would meet Razumovsky.
  34. +6
    April 17 2014 17: 23
    Quote: Kornilovist
    So, about 16 hours two fighter planes flew over Dnepropetrovsk.

    They began to fly intensively over the cities where the rebel bases. Trying to intimidate protesters. All pendants are almost empty, maybe mass-size models on the inside of the force. Sometimes, as even combat approaches were imitated at the airfield in Kramatorsk, they may have fired something for show-offs in empty terrain.
    They try to have a moral and psychological impact in the main.
  35. +3
    April 17 2014 17: 26
    Quote: parusnik
    Turchynov will not get the Donetsk prefix to his surname .. Not fate ... But the tit threatened to set fire to the sea ..

    Well, the hostilities have not yet begun, and the 25th Airborne Brigade can already be said to have lost - had to be disbanded, but threatened to transplant those who did not shoot at the people.
    1. +10
      April 17 2014 17: 48
      Quote: 51064
      Well, the hostilities have not yet begun, and the 25th Airborne Brigade can already be said to have lost - had to be disbanded, but threatened to transplant those who did not shoot at the people.


      A classic of the genre ... just from the Good Soldier Schweik
      "... Then Schweik began to talk about all the well-known orders that were read to him before boarding the cars. One of them was an order signed by Franz Joseph for the army, the other was an order from Archduke Joseph Ferdinand, and both concerned the events at the Duklinsky pass from April 3 1915 when two battalions of the 28th Infantry Regiment, along with their officers and with music at the head, went over to the Russian side.

      Both orders were read in a trembling voice and read:
      With a feeling of grievous sorrow, We command We to exclude the 28th Infantry Regiment from our army for cowardice and high treason, to take away the banner from it and transfer it to the military museum. The history of the regiment, which went to the front with a poisoned consciousness of its duty, is now considered to be terminated. "
    2. +7
      April 17 2014 18: 55
      Quote: 51064
      Yes, threatening to transplant those who did not shoot at the people.

      Why are you threatened! Today this decision was made at BP. The hall applauded violently! KPU and Party of Regions - did not vote! So they will put the guys in jail!
      1. Artem1967
        +5
        April 17 2014 19: 32
        There will not be enough prisons for everyone! And for this gop company (Turchinov, Yatsenyuk, Parubiy, Tymoshenko and others) must be booked!
      2. 0
        April 17 2014 20: 46
        Quote: Egoza
        Quote: 51064
        Yes, threatening to transplant those who did not shoot at the people.

        Why are you threatened! Today this decision was made at BP. The hall applauded violently! KPU and Party of Regions - did not vote! So they will put the guys in jail!


        They train anti-fascist cadres for the future. hi
  36. +3
    April 17 2014 17: 44
    Quote: frejaodina
    They already started to guess feel

    http://politics.puls.kiev.ua/abroad_politic/237310.html
    comments on this site too, not in favor of the junta
  37. +6
    April 17 2014 17: 44
    Here, for example, is the explicit provocation of the MiG-29 in Kramatorsk.
    1. 0
      April 18 2014 07: 30
      Completely crazy! Eh, and there was no MANPADS at hand! The goal was what was "tempting"!
  38. +6
    April 17 2014 17: 58
    Nobody there is going to shoot from the hail (meaning the military). The dull junta provokes Russia into a military operation. Although excesses are not excluded. The guys who left 6 BMD with cartridges are being brought to justice. An entire airborne division is being disbanded in connection with this. I don’t know the size of the Ukrainian division, but this is a spit even on the army that was recruited by SMS, not to mention the "professional" one. Yes, there has already been announced a reward for catching Turchinov laughing to the people's court. The circus began with the attraction of clowns, and how it ends - we'll see. The script is rewritten on the fly. And who will remain the screenwriter? Obama to such "art" - even less than the Clinton saxophone for Monica Levinsky laughing
    1. +9
      April 17 2014 20: 12
      All right, the peasants will not be able to shoot anyone, for they followed the link indicated a little higher, the people there are laughing at the typo of the admin (today President Vladimir Putin spoke), over Turchin’s itd, but I liked the poems more, post:
      Slavs, do not remember insults. We are Russians in the United Fatherland.
      In Kievan Rus Maidan burns, And over Moscow Rus pulls smoke.
      Russian legs confused Jew. And Ukraine is kept on sharpening.
      There are one people, and two states: It is easier to break us apart.
      Forget about the "Ukrainians" and "I". It is not good for brothers to get involved in a swara.
      We have one language, one land, And we should dissipate the war for a couple.
      Maidan - a business card of the third world. And stunning the Yugoslav echo,
      with an American head Fuses with Khreshchatyk and Reich. The oligarchy sticks out in the back with a knife. And the ghost of the Commonwealth wanders ...
      You are not the youngest, and I am not the elder brother: We are ordinary soldiers of the upcoming battle.
      And the memory calls out names. We put on armor over t-shirts.
      Holy Slavic war, And we are the Slavic army - the soldiers.
      Bogdan Khmelnitsky is happy to get up from the tomb. Prince Svyatoslav jumps at dawn.
      Kalashnikov hands an assault rifle. And Kiev is waiting for Moscow, as in the forty-third.
      We will close the tributaries of the Volga and the Dnieper. Raise the banner of the seventeenth century.
      One roll of our "Hurray!" We will make a cripple from the West.
      30.1.14/XNUMX/XNUMX Leonid Kornilov
  39. +5
    April 17 2014 18: 12
    Well, will there be real patriots in Ukraine today among generals, officers who will take responsibility and arrest these creatures.
  40. +14
    April 17 2014 18: 17
    Question: If two Russian battalions enter Ukraine, how many of them will reach Kiev? Answer: ten divisions, not counting the militias.
  41. +7
    April 17 2014 18: 27
    To Ukraine ......deleted by moderator Apollo the junta has banned entry to male citizens of the Russian Federation at the age from 16 to 60 years. http://www.interfax.ru/world/372348

    And che, we will arrive in tanks! soldier
    1. +4
      April 17 2014 18: 55
      I recall that before that month it was from 18 to 50.
      1. 0
        April 18 2014 07: 34
        Ours are already slowing down at the border! And not only men "from .. and to .., even women with small children were inhibited! Madhouse! By the way, why doesn't Russia take similar actions with respect to Ukrainian citizens who are" from .. and to .. "? Who will be in" span "in the end ?! laughing
    2. 0
      April 18 2014 07: 32
      And we will not ask them! laughing
  42. +13
    April 17 2014 18: 28
    No, dear author. The Kiev "authorities" have every chance to strangle the people in the South-East and drown them in blood. And, I think, we will see the beginning of this "state scenario". Too many young brutal bastards have been brought up for 20 years, thirsty for Russian blood. And the States have invested too much money in this scenario.
    And then everything will depend on Russia, however, as always. It’s written in our family to pull fraternal peoples out of all shit.
    1. MG42
      +7
      April 17 2014 18: 52
      As for the blood >> the National Guard was reinforced by the Maydauns and the Pravosek, in addition, the Pravosek seized a lot of weapons during the storming of the regional police departments at the memory, and their own repost, >>
      The news about the punishers was confirmed. It has long been known that the police in eastern Ukraine sympathize with the rebels, and even the Donetsk golden eagle went over to the side of the people, wearing St. George's ribbons, like some police officers. The Kiev authorities, seeing such a situation, with the aim of suppressing, creates battalions of punishers from local scumbags, Russophorbes, in the amount of 19 pieces, 9 of which are practically formed. You don't even need to enter there a military card fool, but only a certificate stating that there is no criminal record and go through a medical commission, they will be handed out military weapons and they harshly suppress popular protests. This case is sponsored by the Dnipropetrovsk Jew oligarch Kolomoisky, the head of Privatbank. For each killed "Russian saboteur" a price of 10 thousand rubles is set. dollars, for each building taken from the rebels the price is 200 thousand dollars, etc.
      Map of the deployment of battalions, those that are formed
  43. +5
    April 17 2014 18: 34
    Quote: Reserve officer
    The Kiev "authorities" have every chance to strangle the people in the South-East and drown them in blood.
    It will not pass, Russia-nearby, will not.
  44. Polarfox
    +15
    April 17 2014 18: 47
    It's funny I like it.
  45. +8
    April 17 2014 18: 50
    The junta must be isolated otherwise defeat. This will make it possible to prevent a civil war. It is imperative to take the SBU so that no one escapes and let the proffessionals conduct interrogation. Who will be from abroad. passport interrogation with addiction.
    1. 0
      April 17 2014 21: 27
      Quote: oxotnuk86
      The junta must be isolated otherwise defeat.
      ...
      Who will be from abroad. passport interrogation with addiction.


      For these, not only interrogation, but with the obligatory display of their confessions in all the world's media, let everyone see who, how and why conceived and carried out the whole Kiev adventure and for what money. Let's turn the "Maidan" into an "Obama Gate". hi
  46. +5
    April 17 2014 19: 24
    when in the world someone pronounces the phrase-Kiev junta-pinochet in hell begins to laugh hysterically.
  47. +3
    April 17 2014 19: 26
    Quote: sokrat7
    Well, will there be real patriots in Ukraine today among generals, officers who will take responsibility and arrest these creatures.

    I think not anymore.
    This is only for the rank and file, sergeant and junior officers.
    Even more likely that this will do the Soviet retirees - the heroes of the past.
  48. Artem1967
    +3
    April 17 2014 19: 29
    Yatsenyuk, crying, to Obama in Washington: - "Chief, the mustache is gone!"
  49. MG42
    +4
    April 17 2014 19: 42
    Residents of Donbass are promised a generous reward for each captured Russian saboteur, as well as for surrendered weapons and released administrative buildings.
    The corresponding proposal was made by the deputy head of the Dnipropetrovsk Regional State Administration Igor Kolomoisky, businessman Boris Filatov, reports TSN.
    "For each returned barrel, a reward is paid. For a machine gun, $ 1, a machine gun, $ 1,5, a grenade launcher, $ 2," Filatov wrote on his Facebook page.
    "For each transferred" green man ", he is also a mercenary who set foot on our common land and that is trying to push us in a fratricidal war - a reward of $ 10 thousand," the businessman promised.
    However, the biggest reward awaits those who free the administration building and hand it over to the local authorities and under the protection of the Donbass special company of the Dnipro battalion. For this, the businessman is ready to pay $ 200 thousand.
    1. +5
      April 17 2014 20: 11
      Quote: MG42
      Residents of Donbass are promised a generous reward for each captured Russian saboteur, as well as for surrendered weapons and released administrative buildings.

      This was just announced on TV !!! This is all true!!! Guaranteed anonymity !!!! And at the same time ...

      The journalist Kristina Babayeva of LifeNews TV channel, which the Ukrainian police detained in Mariupol, was released. At the same time, cameraman Maria Povalyaeva, with whom Kristina worked, is still in custody.

      According to Christina, she was detained the day before near a military unit. During the detention, she received injuries to her face and legs. Then she and several other people from the people's militia were taken to the department of the Mariupol District Department of Internal Affairs. The journalist was interrogated by SBU investigators. They tried to accuse LifeNews correspondent of incitement to separatism.

      Christina demanded to provide her with a lawyer and a liaison with the consul. Investigators did not fulfill this requirement. In total, she was held for more than 15 hours, and then released.

      The cameraman Maria Povalyaeva, who is a citizen of Ukraine, was taken to the police station on the afternoon of April 17. At the moment, there is an interrogation. According to Mary, investigators are trying to seize her camera.

      The crew of LifeNews on the night of April 17 witnessed the shooting at a military unit in Mariupol. After that, Ukrainian policemen grabbed everyone in a row and took them away in an unknown direction. Among the detainees was LifeNews correspondent Kristina Babaeva.

      LifeNews
      1. MG42
        +1
        April 17 2014 20: 47
        I am afraid that the May 25 elections are meaningless for the South-East, the pro-Russian candidate Tsarev was twice beaten by the Maydauns, they planted a weapon in his car and opened a criminal case, here is the attack of the Banderlog in Kiev this Monday on the pro-Russian candidate Dobkin from Kharkov and from the PR> >>
    2. +5
      April 17 2014 21: 40
      Quote: MG42
      Donbass residents are promised a generous reward ...


      I think it is worth declaring a reward for each Ukrainian oligarch surrendered - 10% of his condition, and the oligarchs themselves will write off these funds after the surrender. And for the gentlemen of the impostors (Turchinov, Tymoshenko, Tyagnybok, Yarosh, Yatsenyuk, etc.) give, for example, $ 1-2 million. I wonder what proposal would be more attractive ... hi
      1. MG42
        +3
        April 17 2014 21: 57
        Quote: PENZYAC
        I think it’s worth declaring a reward for every Ukrainian oligarch surrendered.

        Already announced today >>>

        In response to a statement by the leaders of the Dnipropetrovsk region on remuneration for the capture of Russian saboteurs Kazakh entrepreneur Ermek Taychibekov offered a million rubles per head of Kolomoisky.
        On his Facebook page, Taychibekov said he would pay one million rubles (about 28 thousand dollars) to the one who will catch or eliminate Igor Kolomoisky.
        After receiving the evidence, he promises to transfer the "grant, fee, premium" to any bank card.
        At the same time, the businessman set a time limit on the task. According to Taychibekov, the "hunting season" is open until May 1 of this year.
        Taychibekov also published a list of all enterprises owned or co-owned by Kolomoisky.
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    3. 0
      April 18 2014 06: 43
      he would have paid as much as 3.14ndos in Vietnam, he paid for cut off ears, and it will be like in an old joke in Afghanistan they gathered a company from convicts and said. that for every 10 goals of the year they’ll write off, well, loaded into a plane took off sat convicts fled and half an hour later they came to the plane with bags, ensign to them .. t-dig, we just sat down for refueling in Tashkent ....
  50. +3
    April 17 2014 19: 44
    The junta are war criminals. And those who shot unarmed people need to be calculated, and then publicly hanged.
  51. +5
    April 17 2014 20: 05


    The best gift for Svidomo!
  52. +1
    April 17 2014 20: 24
    If the submarine is returned to Ukraine, then the Khan will come to protest. Not earlier.
    1. Com T-64a
      +1
      April 17 2014 21: 46
      "Spleen" however...
  53. circumcircle
    +2
    April 17 2014 20: 32
    I believe that a great measure of shock sobering and inoculation against rabies for the rabble of degenerates who imagined that they were Ukrainians, although they are not, could be the decision of an absentee trial of Bandera, for fun in Donetsk, or in Crimea. In addition
    it would be possible to hang VIP signs on the cameras reserved in Rostov and show them on TV for Yatsenyuk,
    Turchinov, Tymoshenko, Kolomoisky, Yarosh, Ava
    Kova, Parubiya, Nalyvaichenko, Lyashk
    o and other fascist collaborators. And familiarize yourself with the prison menu
  54. 0
    April 17 2014 20: 34
    What a bravura title for this article. How I would like to share the author’s optimism, but I can’t...
    IMHO, the resistance has no chance without Russian support. If the Banderlogs understand that only “mere people” are against them, that’s it. Currently, with such an unclear position of Russia, the South-East will simply run out of motivation; why fight for if there are no prospects? The huntyars promise the Banderlogs carrots in the form of money for the “resisters,” using the base instincts of this “brown mass.” There are losses among the population - there is no reaction from the Russian Federation. Resistance leaders are identified and captured. None of those captured were released.
    Passive defense is doomed to failure. No one is working in their “brain” (excuse the expression) center. Information field for the Maidan...
    The GDP was indistinct at the press conference, admitted the “polite” ones, even though it was an “open secret”... I don’t know... I’m afraid time is starting to work against us.
    1. +2
      April 17 2014 22: 06
      Quote: Michael_59
      What a bravura title for this article. How I would like to share the author’s optimism, but I can’t...
      ... I'm afraid time is starting to work against us.


      This is the reaction you have that their entire “anti-terrorist operation” is designed to stop the decadence!
      If you have real suggestions on how to work in a think tank (don't forget that this is the White House and the CIA headquarters in Langley), offer them.
    2. 0
      April 18 2014 03: 16
      Have you forgotten that this, in fact, is not happening in Russia?
      Quote: Michael_59
      There are losses among the population - there is no reaction from the Russian Federation. Resistance leaders are identified and captured.
      And they will capture while the actions of the resistance remain “incomprehensible”! Now, thank God, a coordination center has appeared, the movements have become more organized. But until there is a formed government in the South-East, any attempt by Russia to intervene will be - legally - an invasion of the territory of a sovereign state. I have no doubt that help is on the way! And the fact that it is not visible adds respect to our “pros”. And believe me, at least the South-East will have enough weapons! wink
  55. Leshka
    0
    April 17 2014 20: 39
    they deflate like a balloon
  56. serge
    0
    April 17 2014 21: 11
    Looking at this case, it’s somehow hard to believe in a federal Ukraine.
  57. tokin1959
    0
    April 17 2014 21: 26
    Turchinov can be characterized as follows:
    “What a brute! Good people expected bloodshed from him, but he ate a siskin!”

    Saltykov-Shchedrin wrote this in the 19th century, but it’s spot on.
  58. prophet
    0
    April 17 2014 21: 27
    Quote: Validator
    Yes, it looks like the junta is not capable of any serious action. They will "seize" airfields, clear some unguarded checkpoints and defend military units with shooting in order to be aware of the information background. And puffing out your cheeks to talk about a cunning multi-stage plan.

    agony is a state of unbalanced individuals (I can’t call them people
  59. -1
    April 17 2014 21: 45
    As they say, TASS is authorized to declare. Diplomatically speaking, we hope that our Ukrainian partners will implement the agreements reached following the joint statement signed by Kiev:

    Following a meeting in Geneva between the heads of the foreign affairs agencies of Russia, the United States, the European Union and the acting head of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry, a joint statement was adopted.

    The following are its main provisions:

    A document on de-escalation of the conflict was approved at a quadripartite meeting on Ukraine

    - Participants in the Geneva meeting on the situation in Ukraine agreed on initial concrete steps to de-escalate tensions and restore security for all citizens.


    - All parties must refrain from any violence, intimidation or provocative actions. All participants strongly condemned and rejected any manifestation of extremism, racism or religious intolerance, including anti-Semitism.

    - All illegal armed groups must be disarmed; all illegally occupied buildings must be returned to their rightful owners, all illegally occupied streets, squares and other public places in Ukrainian cities and towns must be vacated.

    - Amnesty will be guaranteed for demonstrators and those who leave buildings and other public places and hand over weapons, with the exception of those guilty of serious crimes.

    - It was agreed that the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission should play a leading role in helping Ukrainian authorities and local communities implement de-escalation measures where they are needed most, starting in the coming days. The US, EU, Russia will support this mission, including the provision of observers.

    - The announced constitutional process will be inclusive, transparent and accountable. It will include the immediate establishment of a broad national dialogue with its explanation in all Ukrainian regions and political constituencies, and will allow for the consideration of open comments and amendments.

    - The participants emphasized the importance of the stability of the economic and financial situation in Ukraine and will be ready to discuss additional support as the above steps are implemented.
    1. Com T-64a
      +2
      April 17 2014 21: 48
      - All illegal armed groups must be disarmed; all illegally occupied buildings must be returned to their rightful owners, all illegally occupied streets, squares and other public places in Ukrainian cities and towns must be vacated.

      - Amnesty will be guaranteed for demonstrators and those who leave buildings and other public places and hand over weapons, with the exception of those guilty of serious crimes.
      They leaked the DPR????What the f..nya???
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    2. goose2
      +2
      April 17 2014 22: 12
      Naturally, neither party is going to execute such a document. Not the self-defense forces of the Bottom, much less the National Guard detachments and the Pravosek detachments.
      1. +3
        April 18 2014 00: 23
        Quote: goose2
        Naturally, neither party is going to execute such a document. Not the self-defense forces of the Bottom, much less the National Guard detachments and the Pravosek detachments.

        The hopeless Geneva negotiations on Syria have grown into the same ones on Ukraine. I couldn't think of a worse analogy...
  60. Shatt
    +1
    April 17 2014 21: 51
    Already Lavrov, at a quadripartite meeting, signed an agreement that the southeast would vacate the buildings and disarm. Honestly, I don't know what this gives us...
    1. AVIATOR36662
      0
      April 18 2014 01: 26
      “Must be liberated!” and “South-East liberates buildings and disarms” are completely different things. Much in legal papers depends on such trifles. We hope that South-East will not do anything like this unilaterally, as well as generally harmful actions , supposedly even correct on paper.
  61. +1
    April 17 2014 22: 03
    Quote: Com. T-64a
    except for those guilty of serious crimes.

    But I don’t like this, there is no concept of seriousness when we talk about crimes. There are concepts of especially severe, severe, and moderate severity. For separatism in Ukraine they can get 15 years, but this is a particularly serious crime. And what? All those who surrendered their weapons will be imprisoned - no, guys, that won’t work! This is wrong IMHO - then everyone who has done something for political reasons should be given an amnesty! In my opinion, Yanukovych did just that in his time. IMHO the bet is that the illegal Kiev government, which has not yet launched the impeachment procedure of its own president, will not be able to pacify its own Banderlogs, which will be followed by the PNKH DLB and so on. But in any case, the wording “serious crimes” is a mistake, it means nothing. Overseas they understand this in their own way, in Russia in a different way, and in Ukraine in another way (((
    Freedom for prisoners of conscience! Gang get away!
    1. tokin1959
      +2
      April 17 2014 22: 12
      unexpected turn.
      Pravoseki and Maidan self-defense are now the national guard.
      The crook called the criminals to the police.
      Some of the army men went over to the side of the people, the people's squads - they solder desertion to some, separatism to others - these are especially serious crimes in Ukraine now, what is this? have they merged everyone now? Should this have been done in February when Yanyk was overthrown, and now Lavrov has legitimized the junta? When I first read it, I thought it was the February memorandum.
      Bandera is now legal, but pro-Russian ones are going to jail??????
    2. 0
      April 18 2014 03: 31
      Do you know how difficult it would be to force the States and the EU to sign, for example, a document that would say: “immediately disarm the PS and the National Guard”? I’m not talking about Ukraine: Acting The Ministry of Foreign Affairs would prefer to hang himself right there - at the meeting! And now, as an option, the work of lawyers begins, because the Law, as you know, is a drawbar - we must move it in the way that is convenient for us! The National Guard was created by WHO? Illegitimate government. So it's also illegal! Etc. If you think about it again, this communiqué offers many options for further actions, and everything is “within the framework of the agreements”! Let's not rush to conclusions.
  62. 0
    April 17 2014 22: 38
    Quote: MG42
    “For each returned barrel, a reward is paid. For a machine gun – $1 thousand, a machine gun – $1,5 thousand, a grenade launcher – $2 thousand,” Filatov wrote on his Facebook page.
    Is he really? Why hand over a machine gun when they give 10 times more for his head!!! And for Kolomoisky 30 times!!!
  63. circumcircle
    0
    April 17 2014 22: 43
    The resolution of the Geneva meeting, thank God, did not end with a demand for Russia to liberate Europe and Asia. It is no coincidence that they sent troops to the North Pole - the New Region, behold, there is our new living space. But seriously: negotiations for the sake of negotiations, which the maydaun authorities will slander, because .sharker.The only plus is the statement about the existence of a party called SOUTH-EAST, which should be involved in the negotiations.
  64. +1
    April 17 2014 23: 02
    Quote: tokin1959
    and now Lavrov has legitimized the junta?
    It turns out that they sold Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk and all the others, leaving the Russians to be devoured by the right sector and Svoboda. If so, then in 20 years the whole Southeast will shout: “Yaku to Gilyak!” Then let them imprison Yatsenyuk, Tyagnibok, Yarosh, Klitschko, etc. for a serious crime, namely, active participation in the overthrow of the legally elected government in the country!!! Apparently, Russian oligarchs are concerned about their money in the West.
    1. tokin1959
      +2
      April 17 2014 23: 07
      there will be no one to shout there.
      those who clearly protested or supported them will be intercepted one by one, and the craters will arrive at night.
      They will put Bander in charge of all structures, promise whatever they want - and then hang them up. at the very beginning of the reign, the junta’s proteges announced this.
      1. 0
        April 17 2014 23: 15
        Read this is for you tokin1959:
        http://www.mk.ru/politics/article/2014/04/17/1016330-polnyiy-tekst-zayavleniya-l
        avrova-posle-peregovorov-v-zheneve-myi-soglasilis.html
  65. freelancer
    -1
    April 17 2014 23: 20
    We are pacifists and we don’t need war, of course it moves the economy and develops thought, but it would be better if it were somewhere far away, for example in fraternal Bulgaria or friendly Azerbaijan.
  66. 0
    April 18 2014 05: 38
    I think that if the southeastern republics declared independence, then the border checkpoints on the Russian border should be southeastern, and not Kyiv. All kinds of control over the intersection of various citizens and goods, including cool stuff. It seems to me that in conditions of still uncontrollable chaos, such good things can be done unofficially and quickly by responsible people from one cunning... (let him be wise) Slava, whose face, after the sanctions, has already acquired the appearance of a cat that has eaten too much sour cream.
  67. 0
    April 18 2014 10: 31
    Wow, watch out, friends, what are they saying here?

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