German press scared Soviet tanks

Two large German publications (Bild and Berliner Zeitung) decided to send a petition to the Bundestag demanding that the Russians be removed Tanks from the memorial to the fallen Soviet soldiers in Tiergarten. The memorial is located on Berlin Street on June 17 near the famous Brandenburg Gate.

Edition "Bild":

Russian tanks are a symbol of the Cold War policy. Therefore, "Bild" and BZ ("Berliner Zeitung" - approx. "IN") sign a petition with the following requirement: we do not want Russian tanks and other military symbols on the Russian memorial at the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin.

The Bundestag must decide that the Russian tanks from the Tiergarten Memorial be dismantled. The reason is that Russian tanks today threaten a free, democratic Europe. We do not want to see Russian tanks at the Brandenburg Gate.

For the first time since the end of the Cold War, Russia has stepped over a peaceful revolution, having introduced its troops into the Crimea. Today, Russian military units are deployed on the border with Ukraine, threatening the freedom and sovereignty of the state.

We do not refuse the respect of the Russian people and do not deny their enormous suffering and sacrifices during the Second World War, but we believe that the memory of the Red Army soldiers who have been loyal to the earth should be preserved without underlining the militarism of the current leadership of the Kremlin, without reminding Putin’s tanks.

In general, there is a lot of text in the petition: from horror stories about Putin’s tanks threatening Europe, to the absurdities about a certain “peaceful revolution” through which Russia in Crimea allegedly stepped over. We, of course, understand that for some German editions of “only” 100 corpses and 1000 injured in Kiev for the sake of a “democratic” idea, this is quite a “peaceful” action (well, compared to the tens of millions of people killed and tortured in pursuance of the idea German leader during the Second World War), but, by and large, one such thought is already criminal, especially if it is expressed by such German publications respected in certain circles ...

The memorial complex itself, located in 300 meters from the Brandenburg Gate, was opened on the spot in the autumn of the mass grave of Soviet soldiers 1945 (according to some information, about 2,5 of thousands of soldiers and officers are buried here). On the opening day of the memorial in Berlin, a parade of Allied forces was held. In addition to the 2's Soviet T-34 tanks, which are mounted on pedestals on both sides of the memorial, there are two guns on it that took part in the battles for Berlin. In the center of the memorial is a sculpture of a Soviet soldier. Above the complex waving Russian tricolor.

Apparently, after the separate motorized units of the Ukrainian army began to side with the residents of the southeast, who were fighting for federalization, fixing Russian flags on the Ukrainian armored vehicles, progressive publications started hysterical: Berlin, the Russian tricolor, tanks, Putin, a-a- ahhhh !!!

Naturally, the calls of the two German publications to dismantle the memorial in Berlin caused a negative reaction. Moreover, critics of the petition "Bilda" and "Berliner Zeitunga" were awarded not only in Russia, but also in Germany itself. In particular, in response to a newspaper petition, the Berlin City Hall stated that the people who signed the dismantling appeal did not understand the meaning of the monuments at all. In the mayor's office, the “converts” were reminded that in the German capital today there are three large memorial complexes erected in memory of the dead Soviet soldiers. One of them is a complex in Tiergarten, the other two are in Pankov and Treptow Park. In total, in the ground beneath them lies the remains of 23 thousands of Soviet soldiers and officers.

Berlin City Hall (quoted from "Deutsche Welle"):

All these monuments should be viewed not as an expression of a military threat, but as symbols of victory over national socialism. On the memorial in the Tiergarten, tanks of the Soviet, rather than the Russian, army were actually installed, and the Soviet army was long gone.

In addition, the cold water tub on those who came up with the idea of ​​dismantling the memorial, and poured the readers of the publication "Bild". In their comments, the majority of readers expressed their bewilderment as to why the editorial board today began to see the traces of “Putin militarism” and, moreover, here in general the memory of Soviet soldiers who liberated Europe from fascism.

Here are a few comments in which readers evaluate the petition of German newspapers (comments on the website "Bild").

Jack ripper

The T34 is a great tank of its time. And a monument worthy of him. That's why my answer is NO! The tank should remain in place!

E.Zander

This petition is ridiculous.

Jochen bohnert

And I do not want a spying American embassy at the Brandenburg Gate !!!

Ben benn

How about a more timely petition: we don’t want an American atomic weapons in German boden. I consider this petition to be much more important than voting against old tanks.

M h:

And the French do not want to ask: do they want to see the German guns in Verdun? Russian troops have long been withdrawn from Germany, and the US is still here ... And nobody writes petitions about this.

Bocks Horn:

For the Jewish victims of Nazism, memorials were erected. And this is a memorial in memory of 20 to millions of people who did everything to strike at Nazism. The memorial symbolizes the liberation struggle and the sacrifice of the Russian people. Hey, politically motivated! Germany begins to deny its history? ..

M.Muller:

What is this panicking? And who bombed Serbia? Who bombed Libya? Who brought grief and death to Iraq?

And there are hundreds of similar comments!

Honestly - I want to firmly shake hands with these Bild readers. Perhaps today ordinary Germans are much more sober in assessing the situation than the central authorities and the German press. Worthy of respect!

True, the central authorities of the Federal Republic of Germany decided not to shut off the mind - the Bundestag reported that no decisions would be taken to dismantle the Tiergarten memorial.

Comments

[W1950]

The main government did not go about these newspapers, the tanks remain.

[predator.3]

In addition to the 2's of the Soviet T-34 tanks, which are installed on pedestals on both sides of the memorial

Where the world is heading, they will wait for the T-34 or "armature" to be installed next to the T-90 in the near future!

[Little Muck]

Quote: predator.3

in the near future, next to the T-34 will install the T-90 or "armature"!

And then their memorials will turn into an exhibition of the achievements of the Russian military-industrial complex.

[RussianRu]

And also here, it would not hurt to install.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Russian

And also here, it would not hurt to install.

but a good picture! shake ...

[Revolver]

Quote: Russian

And also here, it would not hurt to install.

Under the tanks in Berlin lies 23000 Soviet soldiers. How much do you want to put under this?
And further. Your smiley next to the war memorial, albeit fictional, is inappropriate.

[Viktor Shmagin]

I agree with you, people shouldn’t be put under it, but the USSR also had to come to Berlin not of its own free will. Well, if forced, then I'm sorry

[pavlo]

do not distort!

[Galich Kos]

Quote: Nagan

How much do you want to put under this?

Relax America, RusskyRu just joked)))

[ksv1973]

I do not agree with you, dear RussianRu! Any aspiring landscape designer would consider Poplar or Voevoda more appropriate on this lawn!

[philip]

TOWER OF THE SURFACE.

[Lvovich]

And another S-300 nearby, for the protection of a peaceful sky

[krechet-1978]

- Have you been abroad?
- In Berlin, in Prague.
“Did you go there on business?”
- I did not go, I walk.
- As a tourist?
- No, in the infantry.
From the movie "Thirty Three" (1965)

[anomalocaris]

And they also remember it very well ...

[tronin.maxim]

How frightened the Germans are, hmm.

[mamont5]

Quote: tronin.maxim

How frightened the Germans are, hmm.

This is not the Germans intimidated. It is their government and the engaged media are working out their ration.

[bif]

Quote: mamont5

Quote: tronin.maxim

How frightened the Germans are, hmm.

This is not the Germans intimidated. It is their government and the engaged media are working out their ration.

Perhaps, but Germans and other Europeans are different ... An article about the attitude of Europeans to the response of the Russian Federation to events in Ukraine.
"Europe is scared of a possible Russian response to the Ukrainian events. If Russian tanks go to Kiev, they will only be in Lisbon!" http://www.anaga.ru/evropa-v-panike.html
“As it turned out in the course of the polls conducted by our correspondents among acquaintances of Europeans through contacts on social networks, there is a quiet panic in Europe. then after the establishment of the current uncertain situation, all these feelings were replaced by fear, sometimes turning into horror.
The fact is that almost every European, be it a Pole, a German, or even a Portuguese, is sure that Russia will not leave it that way - she will certainly stand up for her eastern Ukrainians and bring troops to Ukraine, as was the case with South Ossetia in 2008 year Moreover, the citizens of European countries believe that if the troops of the European armies come out on the side of the victorious opposition, and they rate this probability very highly, then the Russians will not stop before military clashes with them. But even the expulsion of the European interventionists, they believe, will not stop the Russians: after entering into a rage, they will start to develop success and will stop only in Lisbon.
Experts and analysts are trying to reassure fellow citizens, pointing out the technical backwardness of the Russian army in the field of precision weapons and the fact that NATO forces are numerically superior to Russian troops, but such arguments do not apply to the public. Europeans believe that after the first clashes with the Russians, their soldiers will flee the battlefield just like the brave Georgians fled.
Most of all, Europeans are afraid to get into Russian captivity - Russian prisoners will certainly be sent to Siberia.
The propaganda unfolding against Russia in recent years, in which Europeans were told about the horrors of the Soviet occupation of Eastern Europe and about the fighters of the Hitler Youth, raped with bottles of Molotov cocktails, had the opposite effect, and now the Russians are afraid of panic and believe that there is no escape from them.
The Germans are especially scared. They believe that the Russians and Belarusians have not yet forgive the atrocities of their ancestors and are ready to take revenge on the Germans again.
Oddly enough, Norway was second in terms of panic.
“We have a common border with the Russians,” says one officer of the Norwegian army, and nothing prevents the Russians from attacking us from the north.
The Dutch are also scared. He believes that Russians especially hate the Netherlands for the sexual freedoms reigning in them, and are just waiting for the opportunity to come to them and establish their medieval order. "

[Chertkov Oleg]

This Europe is full of "psaki" and "rainbow" minorities. With rare exceptions.

[Paramon1979]

I forgot the smell of diesel fuel and how a tank diesel works.

[andj61]

Comment is not worse than article. I really liked it.

[anomalocaris]

Well, the Norwegians are in the blood, from their ancestors of the Swedes. I have personal experience, if anyone is interested, I’ll tell you.
Everything else is nonsense of the Dutch, stoned nymph.
The Germans, by the way, are extremely shitty about the occupying forces (to put it Americans).
The Germans who are in direct contact with Russians and Belarusians do not suffer from this disease. You can believe it, verified by personal experience. They are generally extremely adequate people.

[Orik]

Quote: tronin.maxim

How frightened the Germans are, hmm.

There are few, but in this case they began to eat the same mushrooms as their Ukrainian partners in Kiev.

[KazaK Bo]

What are the Germans frightened at, hmm

Frightened !?
This means they remember ... that you can’t offend Russians!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: predator.3

wait for the T-34 or "armature" to be installed next to the T-90 in the near future!

T 90 will not be there, it costs too much for us. Another 70 years will pass and there will be those who want to demolish the monument from T 90.
It can be said that politicians are troubled, but ordinary people who we are trying to separate from politicians vote for these politicians.
At the root of tries ... and Europe and the USA!

[mojohed2012]

In 70 years, the t-90 monument will be replaced by t-150.
Apparently it will soon be necessary to ride again on t-90 and Armata in Europe and visit Berlin in Berlin.
I am in favor of the petition: "Tank rally across Europe Moscow-Brest (France). There and not back", this time not to give West Berlin to the states.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: mojohed2012

I am in favor of the petition: "Tank rally across Europe Moscow-Brest (France). There and not back", this time not to give West Berlin to the states.

And how many tens of millions of Russians are you ready to put this time?

[Ptah]

Somewhere I met such a cynical calculation of human losses in wars over the past 500 years. In Europe.
In each subsequent war, casualties increased from 2.5 to 4 times.
It turns from 60 millions (half of the population) to total.
And this is in order to "put the tank". How annoying are those who simply dream of experiencing all the "charms and romance" of the trenches ...
Or want to shine from the inside gently green from radiation.

Replica IM. Show your RIGHT position in relation to both the Germans (French, etc.), and to NATURAL HUMAN VALUES. Yes, stand against the general sodomy for at least 15-20 years - so the Germans themselves will install Russian tanks. Moreover, they will ask - "Komm nimm mich doch. Wir liefern."

[Gluxar_]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

And how many tens of millions of Russians are you ready to put this time?

Or will we take advantage of internal contradictions in Europe itself and the economic crisis?

[Pit]

Quote: mojohed2012

I am for the petition: "Tank rally across Europe Moscow-Brest (France). There and not back"

Paris, two Russian tankers sit in a bistro, eat croissants with coffee, a column of Russian armored vehicles is nearby.
One to the other:
- Hey Sanya, it's a shame like that. Everything seems good, but we lost the information war!

[Strezhevchanin]

Quote: mojohed2012

In 70 years, the t-90 monument will be replaced by t-150.

We can now I'm afraid for the Germans, such stress

[family tree]

These, if only the Ukrainians will deliver. Both T-150, both Kharkov Tractor Plant.

[Tersky]

Sasha KIEV, April 17 - RIA Novosti. Armored vehicles of Ukraine, blocked on the outskirts of Kramatorsk, deployed and headed to the place of permanent deployment in the Dnipropetrovsk region, the Ministry of Defense said on Thursday.

"Fifteen units of armored vehicles (B), which were blocked by activists near the village of Pchelkino on the southern outskirts of Kramatorsk, are returning to their place of permanent deployment in the Dnepropetrovsk region as of 08.00:17 on April XNUMX. <...> One continuous "victory" svidomityh in CTO The junta is merging .... Read full here

[Gluxar_]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

T 90 will not be there, it costs too much for us. Another 70 years will pass and there will be those who want to demolish the monument from T 90.
It can be said that politicians are troubled, but ordinary people who we are trying to separate from politicians vote for these politicians.
At the root of tries ... and Europe and the USA!

It doesn't get too expensive. Value is always relative.
But if you judge by such categories as 90 years and centuries, then Russia has troubled relations with Europe only for the last 90 years, before that 90 years were "more or less". Russia patronized the European countries, our troops were almost at Paris. The borders reached the village of Ruda Komarovskaya near Prussia.
So there is every reason to believe that the current period of "90 years" will be favorable for Russia in its relations with Europe. It should also be understood that in Europe there is no dominant force that is ready to talk on an equal footing with Russia, and therefore, after the retreat of the United States, few will be able to reject Russia's leadership.
Given the concentration of the United States in the Asia-Pacific region and the growing confrontation with China, the creation of the Eurasian Union with the participation of many European countries is quite realistic ... the truth must first go through the self-cleaning of these European states, which also seems quite possible.

[Ptah]

I will repeat myself. While in Europe, Germany is in the role of a gendarme, and Russia is in the role of a peacekeeper. Complete order from the Urals to the English Channel. Over the English Channel, the usual "Englishwoman crap" (c).
In place of america, buzzing half-life products, prairies with locusts mutating into locusts ....
In South America, capitation socialism Nigro from Africa are pushed from the ladder, trying to take a standing place in the hold dry cargo sets off to Buenos Aires.
On the construction sites of socialism, of course ...
China entered the final phase of the competition with the Indians for the production of soldiers. Their score is already lost. About 5 lards from each side ....

[Nekarmadlen]

Inspired ... Rosenbaum has lines. "Dedication to Sanka Kotov ..."

He passed from the gates of his Narva
To the strangers of the Brandenburg Gate.
And carried on shoulder straps of sergeants
What Sankin thunders people ...

[podpolkovnik]

Quote: predator.3

In addition to the 2's of the Soviet T-34 tanks, which are installed on pedestals on both sides of the memorial

Where the world is heading, they will wait for the T-34 or "armature" to be installed next to the T-90 in the near future!

YES SIR!

[shibi]

Where the world is heading, they will wait for the T-34 or "armature" to be installed next to the T-90 in the near future!

The mace must be stuck between the tanks.
And plant an alley of Glory with Poplars.
At what, deliver them under their own power.

[anomalocaris]

You are wrong. The Germans, as a people, and as individuals, are very sane. I talked to them pretty much, and now I’m talking. Honestly, I have not met a more complimentary nation in relation to us Russians. Although the world shook pretty much.
Do you know that many Germans write to me: "What is going on there in the Ukraine? With all his boil?" I explain to them, they swear softly in German and ask: "What will happen next?" I can't answer here ... Although, the funny thing is, at least a third of Germany works for Russia.

[sso-xnumx]

Includes 5 tank guard armies ....

[Foxmara]

Quote: predator.3

in the near future, next to the T-34 will install the T-90 or "armature"!

like this?

[Gluxar_]

Quote: W1950

The main government did not go about these newspapers, the tanks remain.

The main thing is that an increasing number of people, including in the West, understand who controls all the media and under what tune they force everyone to dance.
It is frustrating that the Russian authorities do not see or do not notice what a huge protest mass of the population is in Europe itself, which opposes the dibilization of society on an American basis.
It is necessary to carry out work in this direction and help the European peoples to co-purify themselves from their evil politicians, who put the interests of the United States above the interests of their own people.

[max702]

After such highs, the price of gas should rise, 10% percent that way after each publication ...

[tchack]

Patriots will come soon ...

[tchack]

and in France ...

[290980]

this evoyeychik will never be chancellor.)))

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: W1950

The main government did not go about these newspapers, the tanks remain.

I was at these tanks, and saw how little children with mothers carried flowers and laid them on obelisks, thirty years have passed, and consciousness began to break ... eh, Germans ... Germans ... you have the same memory with some "Slavs" ...

[Svetovod]

Really fucked up.

[bif]

Quote: Svetovod

Really fucked up.

Every joke has a share of jokes. Let the joke on the topic of tanks:
“Once Wojciech Jaruzelski came to Reagan (when they were both leaders of the respective countries). Reagan brought him to the control center and said: - Look, what kind of equipment I have. I press the first button - the USSR takes off, I press the second - The USSR and Eastern Europe are blowing up, I click on the third - The whole world is blowing up, only the US remains. ”And Wojciech replied:“ My aunt lived in Warsaw during the Second World War and had three toilets in her house: gold, bronze and So when Russian tanks appeared on the streets of Warsaw, it was dressed right in the corridor ... "

[Egoza]

Quote: Svetovod

Really fucked up.

Well no! rather, a "test stone" was launched - like "what will the people say, and what will the people remember?" So they launched a "proposal" from which the authorities had to urgently dissociate themselves and confirm their obligations to preserve monuments, memorials, etc.

[Ased]

Such ideas come to people's heads when there are no smarter answers to the age-old question "What to do?"

[alin12]

Not long ago Shenderovich compared Putin to Hitler, this was also a touchstone. Now all the "free media" are howling that Russia is the aggressor of Hitler's Germany. Everyone is turning from head to foot

[balyaba]

On the contrary, upside down ...

[Foxmara]

Quote: alin12

Not long ago Shenderovich compared Putin to Hitler, this was also a touchstone. Now all the "free media" are howling that Russia is the aggressor of Hitler's Germany. Everyone is turning from head to foot

"Overton window". Everything fits. I wrote about this back in February-March. Fagots also came to power in the west. I highly recommend reading to understand the essence of the processes.

[sssla]

Quote: Egoza

rather, a "test stone" was launched - like "what will the people say, and what will the people remember?"

At the very bull's eye

[PN]

Well, I don’t know, are you fucked up? I personally am for the fact that there should be monuments about the victory over fascism, but they should not be militaristic. It is necessary to remember about people, heroes of liberators, and not about military equipment. The soldier in Treptower Park is an excellent monument !!! The monument tank should be located on our territory, as a memory of what our grandfathers fought on, and in Germany it looks like a horror story and nothing more.

[Lone gunman]

Yes, they will not dare, otherwise a new Armata tank "from RUSSIA with love" will be on duty in the entire gay union on the hills and hills.

[Alex_Popovson]

Here they have a pop zhzhod! Nits ...

[Alex 241]

They still have nightmares!

[Alex 241]

Let me remind you of the old Soviet joke.

Russian, German and American gathered and began to find out who goes to work, to the country and on vacation abroad.

The German says: I go to work in a Volkswagen, to a country house - in a Gelendvagen, and on vacation abroad - to a big "be em ve."

The American says: I go to the Chrysler to work, to the suburban villa - to the Ford Ranger, and when I need to go on vacation abroad - I sit in the Fleetwood Enterprises camper.

The Russian shook his head and said:

- I go to work, well, by bus. I go to a friend in the country by train, because it’s faster. And abroad? .. Abroad we drive tanks.

[Ased]

Quote: Alex 241

Abroad we drive tanks.

:)
And in a big company of compatriots. For fun!

[I do not care]

Quote: Alex 241

- I go to work, well, by bus. I go to a friend in the country by train, because it’s faster. And abroad? .. Abroad we drive tanks.

[Ased]

I do not care

What a good song! Why not drill? :)))

[Foxmara]

on very polite tanks!

[Monk]

The Soviet soldiers are afraid of it, they will be asked at such a pace to transfer the graves, here are hoopoes.

[Pasus]

This is not a fear of Soviet soldiers, this is the general state of the political mood of the EU, formed under the pressure of US media propaganda.

[0255]

Quote: Monk

The Soviet soldiers are afraid of it, they will be asked at such a pace to transfer the graves, here are hoopoes.

Well, according to Western propaganda, Soviet troops only did what they killed and robbed civilians, and then they also established a terrible communist regime in the GDR. Stalin they have an ally of Hitler.
And about the fact that the Americans robbed and killed civilians, and they had much more rapists and murderers than in the Soviet troops, they prefer not to remember. Or they don’t remember about Dresden, which the Americans bombed almost completely, although there were no German troops in this city. Russians didn’t bomb their cities.

[wandlitz]

During my stay in the GSVG I was acquainted with a teacher at a German institute. Once he spoke about the bombing of Dresden by the Anglo-American
Air Force Before that, I had not heard about it anywhere. He was 5 years old during that terrible bombardment of Dresden. He and his mother were miraculously saved. So he and the 85 year, he hated the Americans as if the bombing was yesterday.

[Riperbahn]

As usual in any country - there are complete idiots, there are sane sane people. And they understand that Russia can change the old "thirty-four" to more modern T-72 or T-90, if they scoff at the memory of Soviet soldiers.

[Grenz]

Silently with Ukraine, why not play along with your nazimaybe counted.
Moreover, Merkel tries on "Heil" for herself.
But the historical memory of the Germans is strong and we will hope for common sense, and not for spring aggravation.
Although the T-34, they correctly fear. During the events in Serbia, tanks from pedestals refueled, armed and they again entered the battle. Maybe it was with this calculation that our fathers and their food were left there. And the guns too.

[avia1991]

Quote: grenz

During the events in Serbia, tanks from pedestals refueled, armed and they again entered the battle.

34 fought in Afghanistan, there were cases. And proved to be excellent in the highlands!

[Riperbahn]

Well, so in Yugoslavia they fought on the Serbian side, and on the Croatian-Bosnian.

[Foxmara]

yes .. Russia is the only country that can conquer Europe with the help of monuments.

[Strashila]

They are rightly afraid ... in Krasnoyarsk, a fresh battery was brought to such a pedestal on a reconstruction, they filled fuel ... and he moved off the pedestal under his own power.

[Alex 241]

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[Artist]

By the way, most of the memorial tanks are on the move and are in reserve.

[mamont5]

Quote: Artist

By the way, most of the memorial tanks are on the move and are in reserve.

Yes, next to us, in Novokuznetsk, also the t-34 stands on the podium. It is said that in the 90s, men from KMK came to work in the morning, and the tank tower was deployed to the plant management. After that, hatches were brewed just in case.
And what, they say, in the tanks the solarium is still splashing, because. drove on a pedestal under its own power.

[anomalocaris]

Hmm ... I'm from the Forge myself. This tank was driven into the city (under its own power) after the shooting of the movie "Hot Snow", driven onto a pedestal, after which its tower was steadily deployed to the KMK plant management. About six months later, it was welded to the hull, and the hatches were welded. But all this was in the days of the dense USSR. Years before the 80th.

[anomalocaris]

This is Kuznetsk TANK. In general, during the war KMK cooked and rolled armor plates for them.

[Riperbahn]

Like most locomotives at railway stations. When all the electronics fly, we will pull all the tanks off the pedestals, put all the locomotives on the rails. We will be with weapons, vehicles, heat and light! Tremble, pampered Westerners !!! :)))

[alex-s]

In Kazan, a tank was stolen from a pedestal a couple of weeks ago from Victory Park. We put the batteries in, refueled, but did not have time to start the engine - the police burned!

[Little Muck]

Quote: alex-s

In Kazan, a tank was stolen from a pedestal a couple of weeks ago from Victory Park.

Looks like someone wanted to get a rarity on their lawn.
After all, to find the old and restore, you need money, desire and brains.
Therefore, neither one nor the other is there.
What to say? UROO.D.Y. .

[Hope]

I can say that 90% of such monuments throughout the country are quite alive. in Chelyabinsk, they also skated from pedestal to pedestal under their own power.

[abrakadabre]

They are rightly afraid ... in Krasnoyarsk, a fresh battery was brought to such a pedestal on a reconstruction, they filled fuel ... and he moved off the pedestal under his own power.

So what? This is such an option of secretive long-term storage. Mobile Reservation

Not a bit surprised if rockets, batteries, a cable are connected to a similar pedestal with Katyusha, then after a few minutes of preparation it will be possible to give a volley.

[family tree]

Diaries of a lieutenant platoon.

But still there was one incident, after which something remained inside. Long before the combat stage of the West-81 maneuvers.

... A team of old-time tankers, cheeky in their experience, led by a dapper captain, was preparing to drag another car to the place of the alleged "slaughter". This time a heavy tank KV - "Klim Voroshilov" was unloaded from the railway platform. Then they were going to tow it with a modern T-72 tank.

- Well, my young friends, - the captain in a bleach-bleached overalls flicked a nut rod on the bootleg. - Before you is a wonderful example of Soviet tank building, named after the one who was sung about "and the first marshal will lead us into battle." Weight fifty-two tons. The crew is six people. How the commander managed with such a burst of "extra" personnel - I do not know. Howitzer one hundred fifty-two ma'am, three machine guns. The shot was worth three pairs of chrome officer's boots. Frontal armor, alas, seventy-five millimeters. Would you, guard corporal, agree to fight like this? .. How is it - no! But the Germans won! Well, grab grandpa. May he rest in peace.

They threw in the cables, but the "Klim", brown from the layer of preservative coating, did not want to get under way. The rollers seemed to be rooted to the tracks.

- Turnovers! - Once again the captain commanded the towing driver.

A cloud of exhaust gases from "seventy-two" covered the KV, and no one caught the moment when completely black smoke suddenly burst out of this gray shroud in short bursts. "Klim" has come to life!

The tracks, forcibly dragged along the ground, started the engine that had once been left in gear. "Klim" blasted a "seventy-two" into the stern, it swerved to the side in fright, and the towing ropes fell off.

The ancient tank moved on its own. He walked slowly in a straight line, crushing the swamp bushes.

- Unclean! - the mechanic yelled foolishly and rushed after him.

A warrior-guard jumped so greyhound at the unusually high stern of the old tank that he cracked an overalls on his ass. We must suddenly stop the veteran who came to life! But KV hatches did not yield to modern tower keys.

The ghost crew went on the attack. Last one.

"Klim" was stopped only by the fact that after three hundred meters an insignificant residue of fuel in its tanks burned out. Breathless soldiers crowded in front of the tank.

- Hey, grandfather, come out! The war is already over! - the mechanic tapped the key on the old armor.

Someone jammed a headset on his nose ...

“Nikolai, do you remember in which direction that caave moved?” I asked.

- To the west! - answered the captain Denezhkin. - To the west!
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[Leisure]

They are probing public opinion in the "American semi-colony".

[abrakadabre]

Definitely.

[basil200]

The world is slowly coming off the coils. Either we in Russia live in a parallel world, or something I don’t understand. How can this be, maybe it's a matrix. Morpheus is somewhere nearby ...

[avant-garde]

How do you think after such statements Latvia will be very scared?

Russia has already chosen the next victim after Ukraine, - MEP
Russia flag coat of arms
The next victim of Russia's armed aggression in Eastern Europe may be Latvia.

This was broadcast on Espreso.TV by the European deputy from Poland, former vice-president of the European Parliament Jacek-Sariusz Wolski, reports Censor.NET.
"We are observing actions that are very disturbing, and they concern Latvia. Just as in the Crimea before the annexation, secret public opinion surveys were carried out, such surveys were carried out in Latvia. So this is a broader plan for the restoration of the Russian Empire," Jacek said Sariush-Volsky.

The politician believes that although Ukraine will be the main target of Russian aggression, under the pretext of protecting Russian minorities, Russia may attack other neighbors, trying to restore the Russian empire within the borders of the USSR.
It should be noted that in Latvia there are 2 thousand Russians per 600 million of the country's population. 200 thousand of them are non-citizens, as they refused to learn the Latvian language or did not pass the exam. Source: http://censor.net.ua/n281462

[Riperbahn]

I served urgent in Latvia. Oh, I wouldn’t refuse to turn L. buses into aliens!

[basil200]

They try very hard to lick between the rolls to the west.

[Little Muck]

Quote: avant-garde

The politician believes that although Ukraine will be the main target of Russian aggression, under the pretext of protecting Russian minorities, Russia may attack other neighbors, trying to restore the Russian empire within the borders of the USSR.

Yes, we will not attack.
Just put in a pose "drinking deer" economy, get yourself together.

[Berkut-UA]

they are afraid to hold a referendum
or are they scared of polite people?

[Tersky]

Quote: avant-garde

The politician believes that although Ukraine will be the main target of Russian aggression, under the pretext of protecting Russian minorities, Russia may attack other neighbors, trying to restore the Russian empire within the borders of the USSR.

They sleep and see Russians in their cities ... probably such a Russian expression is unfamiliar - DREAM IN HAND ..

[Little Muck]

Quote: Tersky

They sleep and see Russians in their cities ... probably such a Russian expression is unfamiliar - DREAM IN HAND ..

Or REAL DREAM ...

[alin12]

Half will come out to meet the flowers !!! And the second half will sit quietly quietly.

[Roman1970]

All this is empty talk ... Nobody will take anything away, the tanks will remain in place. By the way, the Germans do not demolish our monuments and do not organize ss-demonstrations, unlike the small but proud Baltic republics ...

[Chifka]

After the 45th year, the Germans had a steady reflex at the sight of Russian tanks - the sphincter bench press and uncontrolled diarrhea. Moreover, the reflex is hereditary. This reflex must be maintained in order to avoid recession, so as not to be forgotten. Accordingly, tanks should be periodically lubricated, refuel and replenish ammunition. So just in case

[alynin]

Otherwise, we will again take prisoners at the Brandenburg Gate.

[Gagarin]

The West is full of adequate people, the problem is that they do not hear it and they do not give a word.

[parusnik]

Someone began to imagine something ..

[Tima]

They do not want to see Soviet tanks on pedestals — they will see Russian on their streets!

[Horst78]

Fear has big eyes. Apparently afraid not childish.

[mamont5]

"The Bundestag needs to decide that the Russian tanks from the Tiergarten memorial should be dismantled."

What? Frightened, suddenly the towers are deployed, where do you need it? Our tanks are not the first to destroy the German menagerie.

[Berkut-UA]

Russian tanks are a symbol of Cold War politics.

Just tanks stand in Germany as a symbol of the VICTORY of the Soviet Union on Germany.
And who wants to redraw the story - will certainly return to square one.

I hope that this time the Russian leadership will have enough testosterone so that 15 lands of Germany become part of the state,
where everyone is required to know federal - Russian and local - German.

[Pasus]

But what a trifle, clean everything. Brainless politicians are ready to cross out and destroy forever the pages of history. They are worse.
Maybe this monument in Vienna, Austria needs to be removed?

[zorcher]

LET BE. ALL. REMEMBER.

[Standard Oil]

It is necessary, following the example of Nicholas I, to threaten to send a million "spectators in gray overcoats" in our case "tourists" in order to put presumptuous liberals in their place.

[alynin]

It is necessary to arrange a flash mob by sending a couple of thousand children dressed in uniform of the 45th year with PPS and again take the Reichstag.

[Ptah]

Change your avatar faster. Now, like the devil from a snuffbox, a local "professor" will appear, staking out the right to stick out his sore throat and sue you for reparations. Or it will require deductions for 150 years.

Here, use it ... It’s absolutely free and is not burdened with any copyright protection -

[mojohed2012]

To what extent has it come that the "rulers of the world from the USA" and their European gayleiters already want more.
So people are zombifying with their media propaganda, they also want to make an extremely amorphous faceless and limp mass out of it.
If healthy national forces in these states wake up, the current authorities will not find it there. Here in France, Le Pen time to convene the Maidan. I am sure that without blood and Molotov cocktails she will take power.

[ambiorix]

By the way, I was near these tanks, took a picture. And in general in Berlin there is a giant Monument in square to the Russian people for liberation from fascism

[Ptah]

This is not one "monument", but a whole complex.
When I was, I stood there for about an hour.

[valentina-makanalina]

They are still afraid to even remember how they were defeated in the 45th. It is possible to replace the T-34 with the T-90, but even this will still shake them from the Russian presence. You can put padded Tigers and Panthers. This is dearer to them.

[kaa1977]

Stupidity grows stronger. Upstart more.

[Bkmz]

You should have said this: "Take away the T-34, put the T-90."

[chunga-changa]

Here, after all, how. It’s not just a tank. The tank stands in the territory of a military cemetery. Russia is also full of German military cemeteries. There are agreements, they do not touch ours, we do not touch theirs. If someone in Germany has ceased to arrange our cemeteries, then we can arrange an exchange, we don’t need their junk on our land either. If they start hosting as they please, tomorrow there will be a couple of tractor drivers who decide to plow a couple of German cemeteries under spring ones, what’s the problem. Yes, there’s a cemetery on the map, if you want, look for the warlock in that field. Now lovers to speculate about anything they don’t understand will start buzzing about memory and respect for the graves of the enemy, I inform you, if they do not respect ours, to hell with theirs, we did not call them.

[Riperbahn]

You're not right. We are not them. We can’t do that. We have a conscience.

[Ptah]

Quote: chunga-changa

to us their junk on our land is also not very necessary. If they start hosting as they please, tomorrow there will be a couple of tractor drivers who decide to plow a couple of German cemeteries under spring ones, what’s the problem.

Are you a man or a bastard?
They themselves wrote that "there are contracts", therefore, as you put it" OUR Junk "there is a similar fate awaits. You will personally go to collect the remains of Russian soldiers on the plowed German fields.
But in Germany, in contrast to Russia, there is a problem of lack of land for agricultural land. But no one even thought of giving the command to the tractor drivers on the "Klaas".

[Riperbahn]

In general, do not touch the dead. They are not to blame for anything. Moreover, it is not necessary to make hostages of the current policy out of them.

[chunga-changa]

But, for example, Hitler is also dead, is he to blame or not? Maybe put up a monument to him in his homeland, some sort of modest one, with the inscription - "it's not guilty of anything, just a hostage of current politics." By the way, SS men walk in parades across the Baltic States, also innocent grandfathers. Yes, in their youth they came off, but now they are not to blame for anything, they are just hostages of current politics.

[chunga-changa]

Oh, Andrei Makarevich, I did not recognize you in makeup. As you rightly noted, treaties exist, they exist until Germany begins to touch our cemeteries with its filthy paws.
You are probably ashamed of Russia, they pushed Russian tanks, and moreover, "

Quote: Ptah

"OUR JUMP"

buried in the fields of Germany, and yet they so lack arable land. Understandably peaceful German tractor drivers on "Klaas" such thoughts do not enter the head. They have other thoughts in their heads - either to burn Khatyn, then to make lampshades from human skin, then to kill 20 million Russians. But it is understandable that only bastards think about the Germans, normal people with a white ribbon think about how we can equip Russia, or dump from Russia to glorious Germany, but why are you delaying, or are you already there, share about 200 varieties of sausage and democracy, very interesting.

[Ptah]

Quote: chunga-changa

Oh, Andrei Makarevich, I did not recognize you

Sorry to contact you. I understand - hallucinations. An image that arises in the mind in the absence of an external stimulus of the sense organs and is qualitatively similar to a real perceived object. You perceive hallucination as if it had arisen as a real object in the outside world, and not in consciousness, like an image.
I have no more questions
Once again, I apologize for allowing myself to disrupt the process of your treatment.
To the attending physician, Andrei Yefimich Ragin, my old friend, give me a bow.

I'm leaving ....... Well, the door to your room is creaking. I will call the watchman Nikita - he will lubricate the loop ...
/ goes on tiptoe /

[chunga-changa]

Stormy imagination, funny, liked it. Judging by the abundance of details, you had the opportunity to get acquainted with both doctors and staff in the most detailed way. Since you are at large, it is apparently believed that A.E. Ragin has already helped you, and now you are buddies with the watchman. As for the result of treatment, do not flatter yourself, spring relapse is obvious, and all greetings will soon be given by yourself. There is no need to rush in this matter; on the Internet it is advised to undergo treatment until the end

[Ptah]

I'm glad that you are funny and that I liked it, Valeria Ilinichna!
I would like to try to transfer you to a German clinic in southern Bavaria, where there is mountain air, but there are no burial places for Russian soldiers that cause you attacks of acute hatred in general for HUMAN remains, but I see that domestic medicine has not lost professional staff among psychiatrists.
If, nevertheless, your transfer will take place and the victory over the disease will be accomplished, which is likely, then the next planned my visit to Germany, about a month later, I will be ready to please you with trips to places of installation of monuments Russian soldiers, as well as bring you a book of a Russian classic, from which you will get acquainted with some characters that are inaccessible to me for personal acquaintance for obvious reasons, etc. "side effects" of psychiatry.

[290980]

in Bavaria there are graves of Soviet soldiers, and they are courted as well as German ones (I myself worked for a month at the cemetery, so I know what I'm saying).

[Ptah]

Quote: 290980

in Bavaria there are graves of Soviet soldiers

I believe. I just thought that in the Second World War there were no DBs by the Soviet army. And the "comrade" with a shattered psyche will be calmer there. An, it turns out, no ...
I have a friend. From the "shvis", but lives in Pfalz. I was hoping maybe he would help. And then "bummer"

In Switzerland there are no separate Russians, whether by their history or administrative subordination, cemeteries or sites where there would be registers, file cabinets or databases in which all burials would be recorded and centrally stored. And even more so, there are no military memorial burials with their, as a rule, regular records. In principle, such war memorials could be the graves of soldiers of the 1799 of the year from the army of A.V. Suvorov, or the corps of A.M. Rimsky-Korsakov, where the death toll at Zurich in September 1799 reached more than 15 thousand. However, time did not reach us the places of mass graves of Russian soldiers in the Swiss cantons, and there were clearly those, and in considerable numbers. A common monument to all those killed in the Swiss campaign is only the famous giant cross in the rock near the legendary Devil's Bridge near Andermatt, built by the centenary of the campaign in 1899. It is worth noting that in the south of Germany, on the other side of Lake Constance, separating the two countries, in the town of Weingarten, there is a memorial directly at the burial place of Suvorov soldiers, but it was created almost a century and a half later, when there were no more traces of the burial .
Therefore, the main burial place in Switzerland is, as in most countries, the usual municipal cemeteries of large and small settlements, where Russian burials ("Russians" in the broadest sense of the word - refer to all immigrants from the Russian Empire or the Soviet Union, and also their family members1) are “mixed” with the burial places of local residents.

And where they are not ... The graves of our soldiers ...

[290980]

check PM

[assassins]

This is not so about the dead. Relatives come to these cemeteries. We are not them

[assassins]

This is not so about the dead. Relatives come to these cemeteries. We are not them

[sv68]

I don’t know about the correspondence of history by the Germans, but you stupidly spit on this story, and it turns out you spit on yourself too. A little after that you stand

[Orc-xnumx]

"Goebbels" of the whole world are uniting against Russia!

[nablydatel]

Quote: predator.3

In addition to the 2's of the Soviet T-34 tanks, which are installed on pedestals on both sides of the memorial

Where the world is heading, they will wait for the T-34 or "armature" to be installed next to the T-90 in the near future!

and besides with full ammunition and on the go

[Tra-ta-ta]

I deeply respect the German people:

[Stas57]

there are two options for events-
long-term Russian tanks T90 in Berlin-
short-term, a barrel of manure is poured into a German cemetery near Smolensk, Kursk and Volgograd by a certain patriotic citizen or a landfill is arranged.
The Germans want this? I think no.....

[Riperbahn]

Do not be like them!

[Stas57]

where does the likening?
you know with what skip these cemeteries appeared, as they explained to people, "you understand they are watching ours, we are after them, fitting, this and that,"
but what kind of example is it, Kursk or Smolensk without any order can plow these cemeteries, or how will they mock our graves there, and we will put flowers?
the fascist lies beautiful only by our kindness, kindness can end

[avia1991]

The reason is that Russian tanks today threaten a free, democratic Europe. We do not want to see Russian tanks at the Brandenburg Gate.

How interesting! .. If you, gentlemen who are fucking Russophobes, continue to do what you are doing, you risk seeing Russian tanks at your gates again soon, not in the form of monuments, but real ones!

[Anton K]

However, the tendency to rewrite the Great Pages of Our History: someone is curtained off at the Parades from the Mausoleum, someone echoes the destruction of the Monuments of Our Glory.

[pvn53]

Ordinary Germans speak correctly because they think for themselves. But the German leaders and the media - for those who think the current occupiers of Germany - the United States. Therefore, such a discrepancy.

[brigmercurium]

Time goes by, the memory of the Fritz is erased. Therefore, we will remove one T-34 in the near future ourselves, increase the pedestal and put the T-90.

[RoadRunner]

The reason is that Russian tanks today threaten a free, democratic Europe. We do not want to see Russian tanks at the Brandenburg Gate.

This is the memory of the fallen warriors. What threats can there be?

[290980]

The Bild newspaper, ordinary crap and not the newspaper (editors are mostly Jews), normal Germans do not read such crap.
They don’t interfere with the Germans about the tanks and nobody will clean them, it’s just that this Yid newspaper is kindling anti-Russian sentiment in the lower strata of German society. (in principle, they always did this).
Maybe it’s better to remove the memorial to the Jewish victims of WWII in the form of concrete blocks in the city center from Berlin?

[Ptah]

Your checkbox is schwarz-rot-gold. In Germashka now. If so, do you live there or temporarily?

[290980]

I live, a German by nationality.

[Ptah]

Nice to meet you!
And in what land?
I'm only a quarter German. According to his father, respectively, the surname is not "Ivanov or Petrov".
We lived in Bundasia with a family of more than 8 years. We decided to return. I arrived in Russia before the New Year. The family is still there, until July.
Yesterday I arrived from the Mecklenburg region.
Your m / r, as I understand it, is Russian (Soviet). Are you not going to Russia?

[290980]

Bavaria, 16 years here, I’m not going to Russia, and it’s never been there, we were from Kazakhstan (but grandfathers lived on the Volga, Saratov).

[postman]

Guboshlepov from "Bild" and BZ simply do not know that the invaders and aggressors of the Second World War are buried (with due respect) in Russia:

The German military cemetery, located near the villages of Lezier and Sologubovka of the Kirov district of the Leningrad region, it is the largest burial place of the Wehrmacht in Russia and has 80 thousand burials. Like this, Nazi soldiers managed to conquer a piece of Russian land with their bones

And this is only ONE (!!!) of many.
A symbol of what to declare them, what would: put up a "petition demanding to remove the memorials to the destroyed invaders by Nazi Germany" ????.

[Mikhail3]

If we are forced to a full attack, then the panicking Europeans ... are right! We then will not be allowed to stop at the European border. We will have to go forward, just for survival reasons. So that NATO itself will not wipe us off in a year or two. And to Siberia a solid part of Europioids for five years must also be sent. Very much they are rotten, frost would benefit, definitely. But we have trouble with the roads ...
In general, it will be better for everyone if we take what we want in the situation of the Ukrainian crisis. No shooting. Not that ...

[staryivoin]

Quote: bif

If Russian tanks go to Kiev, they will only be in Lisbon! "

And so, gentlemen from the European media are restricting us. To walk so walk, what is bad in London, Paris or New York? Something you have there in the West has all started an epidemic of a disease called Paranoia. They say A. Hitler experienced attacks of this disease. He’s bitten you all for the last time. Then everything is really bad for you, since it is poorly treated, neither doctors nor tanks will help here.
It is more optimistic to look at life, cheerfully, less pessimism and bad newspapers and magazines, especially in the mornings. You look and life will get better. You are sanctioning us, and we are taxing us too ... And we are smiling at the same time how many sanctions have been imposed. And nothing this sanction virus has not taken root in our brains. We know what place your leaders think.

[Paramon1979]

It seems that nemchura forgot the smell of diesel fuel and the sound of a working tank diesel. Nitsche will be a recall.

[Polarfox]

You will laugh, but in the Kazakh city of Pavlodar, the "thirty-four" was also removed from the pedestal from the veterans' park. Old people still spit, demanding to return the tank to its place.

[Ptah]

Quote: Polarfox

You’ll stop laughing, but in the Kazakhstan city of Pavlodar, they also removed

We will definitely "laugh" ... And we will praise the Slovaks. After all, they have it. Even in perfect condition.

Monument to the heavy tank battles on Dukla.

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Ptah

Quote: Polarfox
You’ll stop laughing, but in the Kazakhstan city of Pavlodar, they also removed
We will definitely "laugh" ...

About 5-7 years ago, at the next boil in Hungary, the Magyars removed the thirty-four, which had been preserved from the pedestal, splashed the solariums, and rode as far as they could ...
These are the armored "Trojans"

[Ptah]

Quote: stalkerwalker

These are the armored "Trojans"

Pride in technology bursts, of course. Yes be my will
I would have removed engines from cars. In order not to enter into fright and fornication all the timid members. With words
"Here. Do not piss. Just do not pull your sticky paws. Let it stand that was delivered not by you, but by your fathers. And not to scare you, but to remember - DO NOT ASK TO CLICK INTO RUSSIA ..."
But in general. Ready to testify at the moment - the monuments associated with the Russian soldiers who died in Germany - EXCELLENT !!!
In Rostock, on one of the streets there is a commemorative plaque. The text is approximately the following.
"In 44, there was a Henschel plant where people brought from the east worked. It was bombed by the Allied aircraft. Almost 8 people died ..."
Like this...

Please, Ilyich, take a look at the next branch, where about the "Review of armored transporters." There "Alex" presented such a device for inspection. With a link, with detailed pictures of how to do the same yourself.

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Ptah

Please, Ilyich, take a look at the next branch, where about the "Review of armored transporters." There "Alex" presented such a device for inspection. With a link, with detailed pictures of how to make the same yourself

Already ...

[andj61]

Quote: Polarfox

You will laugh, but in the Kazakh city of Pavlodar, the "thirty-four" was also removed from the pedestal from the veterans' park. Old people still spit, demanding to return the tank to its place.

About times, about morals ... And what, is the empty pedestal worth it? After all, we have one story, This is their pride too!

[heavy shadow]

What is written in these petitions is nonsense. There are no peaceful revolutions.

[52]

Quote: PN

Well, I don’t know, are you fucked up? I personally am for the fact that there should be monuments about the victory over fascism, but they should not be militaristic. It is necessary to remember about people, heroes of liberators, and not about military equipment. The soldier in Treptower Park is an excellent monument !!! The monument tank should be located on our territory, as a memory of what our grandfathers fought on, and in Germany it looks like a horror story and nothing more.

Respected! You are absolutely wrong! The T-34 is no longer militarism, it is a Symbol, this is history, this is memory. A symbol and a reminder to everyone, especially those with a memory like a maiden.

[Papania]

I suggest! Where they will clean, come there in modern.

[Oml]

Quote: Russian

And also here, it would not hurt to install.

Better yet, the 57 megaton "Kuz'kina mother" without the possibility of deactivation.

[120267]

But in general, it’s somewhat pleasant to hear the sound coming from the asses of a potential enemy.

[A1L9E4K9S]

What is going on with the West? On the Black Sea, the unarmed Sushka was scared to the point of nervous attacks by American super sailors, and psychiatrists are still treating the glorious American sailors. In Berlin, they were scared of two old tanks, albeit with a military past, soon they will shy away from the squeak of a mouse and scream, save yourself, the Russians are coming.

[Doctor Evil]

I advise the entire creative team of Bild and Berliner Zeitung to watch the old feature film The Lark from 1964. The theme of a Soviet tank in a German town and crap burghers is fully explored. So to speak, refresh your memory.

[Msta-s]

Quote: 120267

But in general, it’s somewhat pleasant to hear the sound coming from the asses of a potential enemy.

The phrase “potential adversary” has long ceased to exist. Don't push it. Personnel will understand.

[Puskarinkis]

The tanks stand as a reminder of where they can go if you behave disrespectfully with Russia. The burial tells us what sacrifices we are willing to make for this. Maybe the poor people shouldn’t fight right away? It can gather enthusiasts at working exhibits of armored vehicles of the past, add a couple of relatively new exhibits and organize an exclusively peaceful tank rally across Europe, i.e. visit the graves of our soldiers? There are no threats, our tankers just develop their own traditions and they are like bikers....

[PATTIY]

But it seems to me that no monuments need to be removed. It's history and beautiful!
but personally I didn’t like the monument to a roll of toilet paper in Belgium.
It's so huge and stupid, wow!

[siberalt]

Reading German “Muinu” from private media and throwing it at a forum review on “VO” for trolling is not exactly comme il faut.
What do the officials say? Precisely those that reflect the policy of their state? That's what it's done for. Some “crow”, and the media triumphs and watches as the former begin to leak the latter. It's such a job, damn it! The truth is that it’s about to happen, just wait a little and it will be there! Well, not exactly the same, but something close. And it's endless. Either no one believes it anymore, or they are just laughing. Families, damn it, also need to be fed. Wife, children... Like everyone else. This is the kind of work, but you have to lie about something, and then suddenly the truth will work out, and fuck off. A couple of days and you won’t remember.

[290980]

Quote: 290980

this Jew will never be chancellor.)))

[stroporez]

in principle, I understand imported ones...Soviet tanks are a living reminder of who “bent over” whom in the last century...and the desire of “universal people” to get rid of these reminders is quite understandable. But if this happens, then I think very soon we will have to “drive” newer models to Europe... one of my grandfathers ended the war in Vienna, the other --- in Prague, if the memorials are removed --- I think my granddaughters will have to repeat this glorious path .......I’m sure there will be quite a few people willing to take part in “tank tourism”...

[Signaller]

Yes, it’s simply already embedded in their subconscious. If a confrontation with Russia is brewing in the yard, we should immediately wait for tanks. Like "Russian tanks broke through." It was necessary to scare people so much in the forties that this fear, even at the genetic level, is passed on to subsequent generations... Our grandfathers tried their best. Respect and respect to them once again.

[kelevra]

We also need to introduce a guard of honor near these monuments! Put polite people there without identification marks, I wonder how the Germans will behave, maybe they’ll start climbing into the bunkers?!

[stroporez]

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[sledge]

Cowardly scoundrels. Russian tanks liberated Europe from the Nazis

[colonel manuch]

It is possible that with “someone’s” suggestion this was a “trial balloon”, as the old proverb says: “The war did not take all the sick.”

[stroporez]

Quote: polkovnik manuch

It is possible that at “someone’s” suggestion it was a “test balloon”

--- I think you are right........ in Europe there are enough living witnesses to those events, and they can understand whether it’s time to rewrite history or not...

[ava09]

As in the West they love to distort facts, so what does the politics of the Cold War and “Putin’s Tanks” have to do with it? The monument was erected in memory of the events that took place before the start of the Cold War, and Putin was not yet born...

[A1L9E4K9S]

And whoever didn’t like our comments, the minuses turned red. If I were the only one who caught the minuses, I might think that I was wrong, but if we are all with minuses, then one of us is keeping up, and the rest are not. Or this Did the sailor from Donald Cook take revenge on us for the fright?

[anomalocaris]

Quote: bif

“Europe is frightened by Russia’s possible response to the Ukrainian events. If Russian tanks go to Kyiv, they will only appear in Lisbon!”

I haven’t been to Lisbon... Can I remind the Russian Defense Ministry about this?

[290980]

Quote: anomalocaris

Although the funniest thing is at least [b]a third of Germany works for Russia.[/b]

what does it mean??? you buy in Germany what you need, everyone works for themselves, that’s all.... I agree with the rest.

[anomalocaris]

Dear, whoever pays is the one who dances the girl. To make it clearer to you, approximately a third of Germany’s gross product is provided by Russia. And who is there and for whom works, believe me, is a very secondary question.

[290980]

Quote: anomalocaris

Dear, whoever pays is the one who dances the girl. To make it clearer to you, approximately a third of Germany’s gross product is provided by Russia. And who is there and for whom works, believe me, is a very secondary question.

So we can agree that China works for everyone, don’t talk nonsense.

[anomalocaris]

What nonsense? Just imagine for a moment what would happen to Germany if Russia simply announced total sanctions at once?

[290980]

Quote: anomalocaris

What nonsense? Just imagine for a moment what would happen to Germany if Russia simply announced total sanctions at once?

))) but nothing will happen, first of all, you, the Russians, depend on the sale of oil and gas, so your sanctions will hit you, all your goodies, in the form of higher wages and higher living standards, are all gas and oil, they won’t exist What are we going to sell, Kalash with vodka? Change from Mercedes to Ladas, what else will happen?
you have to be realistic...it will affect everyone, but definitely nothing terrible will happen in Germany.

[anomalocaris]

Baby, WE are COMPLETELY independent of the sale of oil and gas. They are not sold by us and WE have little to gain from this. Baby, I don't have a car, simply because I don't need one. By the way, your happiness will be if I drive a Lada (by the way, I don’t even have a license), you see, there are several vehicles that I have the right to drive, but you won’t like all of them.
Not only that, baby, I have an area at my side the size of North America (I mean the mainland), and I’ll find something to do there. Just for one simple reason, I am an ordinary Soviet engineer and an ordinary Siberian man. But what will you do in winter with frozen sewers and no work?
ZY You, baby, are extremely naive. Yes, sanctions for Russia will be painful, but far from fatal. But for the EU this will be the death knell.

[290980]

)))smiled...your (Russians) mistake is that you think that without gas the whole of Europe will simply go to the grave, well, the people who live here are not stupid (secretly... gas and oil Germany and produces it herself). I’m glad that you can keep yourself busy there (probably felling wood for the Chinese), that’s good. It’s not gas and oil that is becoming important right now, but technology, and you are still a long way from Western ones, I was once a translator for Tyumen engineers who came to our enterprise for an internship, if they were the best, then I’m very sorry, the level of the plinth.

[andron72]

Okay, don't show off, Fritz. Let's see who gets under the plinth

[Paramon1979]

Kill Mr. And. Yes. And why listen to you - I traded my homeland for a delicious Fatherland.

[russianskijbelarus]

Yeah. Remove them - they are already outdated. Place T-80 or T-90.

[Skipper2050]

We are peaceful people, but our armored train is on a siding and there is no need to provoke it yourself, this is fraught, gentlemen, Germans, otherwise we will exchange the “old tanks” for “new ones”.

[razved]

Quote: KazaK Bo

What are the Germans frightened at, hmm

Frightened !?
This means they remember ... that you can’t offend Russians!

Not everyone has forgotten the word "Stalingrad". This makes me happy and gives me hope that they won’t do anything stupid.

[CB activist]

I wonder how 290980 determined the level of the “Tyumen engineers” if he himself is only a translator, and probably not very literate? If I (also a Soviet engineer) treated the assigned work as carelessly as this subject (humanitarian) treats the Russian language, it would end in destruction and loss of life.

For 290980, I inform you that scientific and technical specialists of the Russian Federation (even mid-level officials, in the rank of laboratory head, leading engineer, leading researcher, etc.), on whom the technological sovereignty of the Russian Federation really rests, will use the services of a more qualified person to communicate with German colleagues specialist than him, it is also possible that these people will manage without outside help. Improve your qualifications, dear 290980, and you will be entrusted with the appropriate contingent. In the meantime, "Tyumen engineers" who are "below the plinth" - your level.

[290980]

Yes, I’m not a translator, but a hard worker, it’s your dunces who arrived without an interpreter, the Germans tried to communicate with them in English, but they didn’t understand anything, then they asked me to be a translator from German to Russian.

here is another shot))) mayor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbYz4t0XJqc

[andron72]

So learn Russian, gentlemen, Germans

[Lechik2000]

"One of them is a complex in Tiergarten, the other two are in Pankove and Treptower Park. In total, the ashes of 23 thousand Soviet soldiers and officers lie in the ground beneath them."

How interesting is the consonance of Pankov - Pankovka (we have a German cemetery there) 1941-1944...
http://video-w.net.ua/watch?v=0jBXikg3Ubt
ZY Both the Spaniards and the Belgians lie there - come visit us...

[Peacemaker]

Quote bif

there is no escape from them.
The Germans are especially scared. They believe that the Russians and Belarusians have not yet forgive the atrocities of their ancestors and are ready to take revenge on the Germans again.

Thank you! I laughed heartily... Fear is already half the victory!

[Ptah]

Quote: Peacemaker

Fear is already half the victory!

FEAR - first of all - IS HATE. And she never contributed to either PEACE or understanding.
So they erect memorials to former enemies with the goal of remembering this. BOTH!!!

[philip]

from horror stories about Putin's tanks,

Firstly, the tanks are not PUTIS, but Russian, and Putin is still just one of US.

[svetachalmers]

hmm... just some kind of hysteria. but... they are afraid, which means they respect!))

[tokin1959]

Eh, gentlemen, commentators.
some people are going to plow up the cemetery
others to Lisbon by tank. why do we need it?
others are measured by "sanctions"))))
We'll shut off your gas, but we won't sell you a Mercedes.
and the “sanctionists” position themselves as serious people - typeO engineers)))
and the level of thinking is the same as that of fifth graders.
and the methods proposed are like those of granny Shapoklyak. who will spoil each other more.

[anomalocaris]

Well, okay, I’ve actually never been to Lisbon. And I didn’t really want to, to be honest. As for sanctions, well, our oligarchs will not be able to order yachts (the size of an aircraft carrier) from the Kiel shipyard, will this make you feel very cold? I think not very much, unless, of course, your last name is Abramovich.
Again, I am now repairing all sorts of hydraulic equipment, you know, it required repairs before the sanctions, and will continue to require repairs. And accordingly, I should deeply put (you know what) on all these disturbances.
I will say more, if our government, led by the president, comes to their senses (as a result of sanctions, or their common sense simply awakens) and supports education, namely technical education, and our own mechanical engineering, then in five years we will destroy all of Europe.

[tokin1959]

about Lisbon - some were planning to go there in tanks, others to Berlin, London, etc.
We don’t need war in any way, it’s better to live in peace. A bad peace is always better than a good war. It’s better to visit them as tourists.
Sanctions - if we block everything for them, and they for us - the economies will collapse, both ours and theirs. It will take many years to reorient, we won’t die, of course, but we won’t get any better.
and the fact that they banned someone from traveling abroad, and suspended account transactions - yes, this is a good signal to “businessmen”, before they could easily steal here and go to the west, but now it’s a good signal to them - steal, drive it to us, and we’re here We will take your money away because you are Russian. Maybe they will steal at least less or invest money here with us.

[Robertlial]

500 $ per day
http://goodfivus.ru/

[homosum20]

Let them remove the T-34. If you need it, we will come with new ones.

[svv150473]

GUYS GOOD HEALTH RESPECT TO EVERYONE!!!! DON'T WORRY

[dchegrinec]

Another kindergarten pants with straps, damn Europe has completely degraded..

[Russian_German]

Quote: mamont5

This is not the Germans intimidated. It is their government and the engaged media are working out their ration.

I agree that the Western oligarchy in Europe, England and the USA are intimidated. The people of all these countries understand perfectly well that there is no threat to them from the Russians. And this is confirmed - the Russians took Paris, but did not stay there, they took Finland and Poland, but Finland and Poland are free! They took Germany, but did not stay there. That is, by and large, the people have nothing to lose, but the oligarchs have something, so they pay for all sorts of wars, lies and provocations. By the way, it’s the same in Ukraine; at the origins of the unrest is the oligarchy, which has something to lose. Do you think that the first and second world wars were started by ordinary people, they have nothing better to do than go to war and die for a healthy living, kill people towards whom they don’t even have any complaints or anger. In reality, in Europe, no one among the common people is afraid of Russians, with the exception of perhaps a very small part of the population, but there are such fearful people in any nation, and besides, the same media are whipping up fears. And in Germany, for the most part, the people are sensible and not stupid, especially after 1945.

[Russian_German]

Quote: Paramon1979

I forgot the smell of diesel fuel and how a tank diesel works.

Quote: Chifka

After 45, the Germans had a strong reflex at the sight of Russian tanks

Quote: chunga-changa

It is clear to peaceful German tractor drivers

Friends, don’t confuse God’s gift with scrambled eggs!!! If you are reasonable people, you must understand that fascists and Germans are not the same thing! There are fascists among Russians and “Ukrainians,” but this does not mean that all Russians or Ukrainians are fascists. And in general, before you write anything, turn on your brain!!!

[Paramon1979]

Sorry brother, I didn't mean to offend.

[Russian_German]

Quote: A1L9E4K9S

In Berlin, they were scared of two old tanks, albeit with a military past, and soon they would shy away from the squeak of a mouse and shout, save yourself, the Russians are coming.

I assure you that the Germans are no less brave a nation than the Russians. And this is not my personal opinion, but of those front-line soldiers, participants in the Great Patriotic War with whom I had the opportunity to personally communicate, both with private soldiers and with command staff. No one, you see, no one called the Nazi Germans cowards! Everyone, absolutely everyone, spoke of them as worthy opponents. Well, if it pleases your vanity so much, you can call the Germans cowards. But as Aristotle said: “Plato is my friend, but the truth is dearer!”

[tokin1959]

Germans are not cowards.
It’s just that among the Germans there are the same idiots as ours - who want to plow up the cemetery. Every nation has enough idiots.
grandmother Shapoklyak’s methods - they spoiled us, and we’ll spoil this for them.
disgusting to read.

[Russian_German]

Quote: andron72

and technology is still a long way from Western ones

What technologies are we far away from? What do you think, Buran, which we launched in the last century, is it technology or not? Or our Su(shki), PAK FA, Yaseni and Sineva, is this all done on the knee, without technology? And the RD-180 rocket engines that power the US Atlases are not technology. I'm not even talking about Topol, Sineva, Glonas. And fast neutron nuclear reactors. May God grant the USA and Germany to have such technologies. Or maybe it was German scientists who received the Nobel Prize more than 50 years ago for the invention of the laser. Use your brain when you write something and don’t write nonsense. What did Germany create that was so outstanding? Yes, almost all of these technologies are military-oriented, but Russia had no other choice when it was attacked by enemies throughout the last millennium. Germans - continuously, Swedes, Mongol-Tatars, Poles, French, Turks, Japanese, British, in short, the whole world. It was you who taught the Russians to be warlike and persistent, otherwise they would have disappeared as a nation. And therefore, based on their past experience, they are forced to arm themselves, instead of improving their lives!

[tokin1959]

Apparently people judge technology by their tape recorders)))
And even then, the lag in household appliances began in our country towards the end of the 80s.
before that, they were at a high level in consumer electronics.
for example, V. Vysotsky was even involved in smuggling.
will buy a dozen VEF radios and push them in France. like hot cakes were selling)))

[A1L9E4K9S]

Quote: andron72

It’s not gas and oil that is becoming important right now, but technology, and you’re still a long way from Western ones,

So you left Russia for the homeland of your ancestors, closer to advanced technologies, and decided to leave the country where you were born. Then sit in your Germany and don’t blather, don’t insult the country where you were born. And here’s another thing, remember the disenfranchised, how many times the Russian people gave shit to the Germans with all your advanced technologies. If you... you, you’ll get more.

[290980]

Yes, I’ve never even been to Russia))) but the first time, the Germans won with a clean sweep, only fucking Lenin with his treaties stopped the Germans.

[andron72]

Learn history, deer.

[Grach710]

They are afraid even of dead tanks. That means everything was right. Happy Victory Day!

[anomalocaris]

Not all Germans, and not even in Germany, are afraid... There was a case in my practice when the Germans skerried from me on May 9... When I was able to catch one and ask, “WHY the hell are you hiding in a crack like that?” he answered me: “Now is Victory Day, you will beat us...”. I had to explain to him that my ancestors lie from the Volga to Breslau (now Polish Wroclaw), but I don’t feel hatred towards them directly.
Something like this... But I did hit one Englishman in the face for the same reason.