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"Here we saw that they were not separatists or terrorists, but ordinary locals, with whom we will not fight"

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"Here we saw that they were not separatists or terrorists, but ordinary locals, with whom we will not fight"The Ukrainian military, who raised Russian flags over their BTRs in the morning of April 16 and went over to the militia in Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, Donetsk region, told why they did it.


“We decided not to fight with the people and not to defend such power,” the crew said.

Earlier it was reported that today the Ukrainian armored personnel carriers arrived at the center of Slavyansk, controlled by the people's militia, got up near the district council and removed the flags of Ukraine. Weapon they have already transferred to the militia, reports RIA News.

As the correspondent of Radio RSN reports from the scene, the military, who went over to the residents of Slavyansk, were in the 25 airborne brigade. Six infantry fighting vehicles and a truck entered the city. In the hands of the soldiers, St. George ribbons are tied; they have no other identification marks on the uniform. The local population welcomed the arrivals with shouts: "Well done!" According to the correspondent, residents applauded the military for more than 15 minutes.

In Kramatorsk, crews of several armored personnel carriers, infantry fighting vehicles and tanks previously also announced that they sided with the militias. The corresponding video on YouTube was published by eyewitnesses:



About 60 Ukrainian military went over to the side of the militia in Slavyansk

On the side of the protesters went about 60 Ukrainian soldiers from the crews of BMD and BMP, sent to Kramatorsk to participate in an army operation.

The servicemen removed the Ukrainian flags and drove their cars to Slavyansk, RIA Novosti reports. “Here we saw that they were not separatists and not terrorists, but ordinary locals, with whom we will not fight,” one of the military told the agency.

In total, the crews of six BMDs, several infantry fighting vehicles and one armored personnel carrier have already moved to the side of the militias. Many raised Russian flags and flags of the Airborne Forces. Several cars are now standing near the city council of Slavyansk, controlled by supporters of federalization.


Meanwhile, the new Kiev authorities are trying to convince the Ukrainian and world community that the Russian flags on the Ukrainian armored personnel carriers in Kramatorsk and Slavyansk "were a military cunning." As the "Interfax" referring to the words. heads of the Batkivshchyna faction Sergei Sobolev; they did this in order to penetrate the units controlled by supporters of federalization.

“It’s our armed units that used the partisan method of penetration. This event will be known very soon - literally within an hour or three, and you will understand that this, in fact, was a breakthrough that was provided by our units”, - said Sobolev at a briefing 16 April.

According to him, this information is official, which was provided by the acting. Minister of Defense of Ukraine.

Earlier, a deputy from the UDAR faction, Sergei Kunitsyn, said that the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense did not confirm the information spread in a number of media outlets about the appearance of an armored personnel carrier with Russian flags in Kramatorsk and Slavyansk, Donetsk Region.

“The Minister of Defense (meaning Acting Minister of Defense of Ukraine, Mikhail Koval) did not confirm this information,” Kunitsyn told reporters.

Also, according to him, the head of the defense department did not confirm reports of the transition of the Ukrainian military to the opposite side.
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  1. Net
    Net April 16 2014 16: 31
    +83
    Well, what about the junta, to London?
    1. alex-s
      alex-s April 16 2014 16: 35
      +31
      “It’s our armed units that used the partisan method of penetration. This event will be known very soon - literally within an hour or three, and you will understand that this, in fact, was a breakthrough that was provided by our units”, - said Sobolev at a briefing 16 April.


      A real breakthrough will be when all the junta are put on their knees in the square!
      1. Tersky
        Tersky April 16 2014 16: 40
        +22
        Quote: alex-s
        A real breakthrough will be when all the junta are put on their knees in the square!

        On your knees - a lot of honor, how to put them several centuries ago in the Kama Sutra painted, the text is understandable, with accompaniment in the drawings ..
        1. Belarus
          Belarus April 16 2014 17: 13
          +30
          I have an idea for a better one: plant the whole junta into the pit from the city and shoot above heads. I didn’t dive, I got an olive tree, I dived into where the junta should be!
          Well, how does it fit? repeat
          1. Gloria45
            Gloria45 April 16 2014 18: 22
            +10
            and the new Ukrainian authorities are more occupied with this
            1. core
              core April 16 2014 18: 39
              +7
              this is a strong European "male bast"
            2. GreatRussia
              GreatRussia April 16 2014 19: 01
              +7
              Quote: gloria45
              and the new Ukrainian authorities are more occupied with this

              A lumberjack ax was heard in the forest
              A man drove a homosexual from himself
              Ax dull, tired lumberjack
              A homosexual man is sitting on it smiling.


              Parubiy seized upon the noise ...
              Yes, and Lyashko does not particularly resist. laughing
              1. sniper
                sniper April 16 2014 19: 25
                +10
                Quote: GreatRussia
                A lumberjack ax was heard in the forest
                A man drove a homosexual from himself
                Ax dull, tired lumberjack
                A homosexual man is sitting on it smiling.


                A sad tale ...
                Awful ending ...
                I in childhood with a slingshot
                Pidril killed

                Now I'm grown
                I have a gun ...
                There is something to protect
                Nature is mine!

                The moral of this fable
                Available to all:
                Keep your HONOR,
                You will be successful !!!
                wassat
                1. GreatRussia
                  GreatRussia April 16 2014 20: 37
                  +1
                  Quote: sniper
                  A sad tale ...
                  Awful ending ...
                  I in childhood with a slingshot
                  Pidril killed

                  Now I'm grown
                  I have a gun ...
                  There is something to protect
                  Nature is mine!

                  The moral of this fable
                  Available to all:
                  Keep your HONOR,
                  You will be successful !!!
                  wassat

                  laughing
                  1. sniper
                    sniper April 16 2014 21: 04
                    0
                    Quote: GreatRussia

                    laughing

                    No rhyme, forgive me, but "I will answer for the market" !!! wassat wassat wassat
            3. Partisan Kramaha
              Partisan Kramaha April 16 2014 20: 45
              +2
              Wow, right in front of the audience and cameras! I wonder who then went around with a hat in a circle?
            4. APASUS
              APASUS April 16 2014 20: 47
              +1
              Ukraine Lyashko and Paruby CLOUNDS arranged a circus for ow

              If only they were shy, maybe not everyone wants to see this?
              Maybe for Europe this is normal, but it's kind of crazy for me
              1. igor_m_p
                igor_m_p April 17 2014 00: 51
                +1
                So they are torn in a geyropu - you need to match wassat
          2. Tequilla
            Tequilla April 16 2014 20: 13
            +1
            Hto ne jump ... ne dive, tse !!!
          3. igor_m_p
            igor_m_p April 17 2014 02: 25
            0
            Quote: Belarus
            I have an idea for a better one: plant the whole junta into the pit from the city and shoot above heads. I didn’t dive, I got an olive tree, I dived into where the junta should be!
            Well, how does it fit? repeat


            Why so cruel. Suddenly someone will scratch a bone with a bullet, and again the screeching will rise - "they are deti !!!!!!"
            The ancestors invented everything for a long time - naked in resin, then in feathers and in such a form with rods through the whole city :)
        2. Fevrrr
          Fevrrr April 16 2014 17: 53
          +1
          For many of the junta, this will not be a punishment, but an encouragement. No, they must be judged, but they must be on their knees.
      2. Patton5
        Patton5 April 16 2014 18: 35
        +5

        Meanwhile, the new Kiev authorities are trying to convince the Ukrainian and world community that the Russian flags on the Ukrainian armored personnel carriers in Kramatorsk and Slavyansk "were a military cunning." As the "Interfax" referring to the words. heads of the Batkivshchyna faction Sergei Sobolev; they did this in order to penetrate the units controlled by supporters of federalization.

        And the "authorities" consider it their duty to rass3,14zdet about this all over the world .... you can't say anything ... STRATEGIES !!! fool Brain rupture !!!!
      3. With Petrovsky
        With Petrovsky April 16 2014 19: 32
        0
        Of course in London, there the whole rabble is hiding, and the Britons cover them.
      4. Alez
        Alez April 16 2014 20: 34
        +2
        It remains for the Junta to declare with all responsibility: a referendum in the Crimea and the subsequent reunion with Russia - Ukrainian military trick. We will show !!!
        Continue to deceive the gentlemen of the Nazis, Hitler also cheated by attacking the USSR. A sly Stalin Bolt was found on him.
    2. avg
      avg April 16 2014 16: 38
      +10
      War is war, and the grub is on schedule! laughing
      Nevertheless, one must remember about the Trojan horse!
      1. Coffee_time
        Coffee_time April 16 2014 16: 48
        +37
        If only this were not received
    3. Kazanec
      Kazanec April 16 2014 16: 46
      +3
      Better in ... opu :) Or to Sashko :)
    4. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 16 2014 16: 56
      +11
      Quote: Netto
      Well, what about the junta, to London?

      What a London, go to jail ..... angry
      1. TRex
        TRex April 16 2014 17: 02
        +76
        Tore off on one Ukrainian site: Some wild farce is going on. The head of the CIA arrives in Kiev in search of the "black-water" mercenaries who have disappeared in the vastness of Donbass. The men of Lugansk are driving a rusty tank across the fields in a "Niva". Disabled Tymoshenko announces the recruitment of his army of volunteers. In Kramatorsk, another army of bandits disguised as bandits loudly and awkwardly attacks an airfield that no one needs. Zhirinovsky calls the degenerate Paruby and sends a warning from the Kremlin. He blushes with his ears and swaggers in front of the camera of the Afghan-Afghan journalist Nayem, with whose report about the Euromaidan all this confusion began. The peasants of Kramatorsk take prisoner the USSR champion in Greco-Roman wrestling, who was recently proclaimed the deputy secretary of the NSDC and sent to lead the operation to clean up civilians. He went out to the peasants as if to tell them that they were terrorists. The men believed and took him hostage.

        Meanwhile, in Kiev, a Rada of legal extremists are besieged by illegal extremists who demand to act more extremists and accuse the official extremists of being bought by Putin. In response, the same accusations follow - that Putin sent false Maidanists under the Rada who are trying to destabilize the situation at the most crucial moment. While the extremists of Kiev are arguing which of them is more bought by Putin, a criminal case is opened against the candidate for hetman of non-existent Ukraine beaten by peaceful protesters - apparently, for being alive. Another candidate was not allowed to air the "Freedom of the Word" program under threat of beating by the so-called Avtomaydanovtsy - of course, bought by Putin along with the tires. On TV, people are simultaneously convinced of two things: that Ukraine is united and everyone around is brothers, and that some of this people are terrorists and separatists. The funny thing is that many TV viewers believe both.

        An infernal mix of big top circus, walk-field and export democracy. The feeling that the script was written by a rare Hollywood type Stallone.
        I would like to press the "off" button.
        1. tasey
          tasey April 16 2014 18: 21
          +6
          This guy is a comedian ... Laughing almost to tears. All the same, there are normal ones.
          1. serega.fedotov
            serega.fedotov April 16 2014 19: 19
            0
            Quote: tasey
            This guy is a comedian ... Laughing almost to tears. All the same, there are normal ones.

            It would be very funny if it weren’t so sad
      2. sssla
        sssla April 16 2014 18: 20
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        , go to jail ...

        Perverts only this and give)))
    5. asar
      asar April 16 2014 16: 57
      +6
      Well, how ?! "The masters" of Ukraine flew like "plywood" over the South-East ?! wassat
      1. Coffee_time
        Coffee_time April 16 2014 17: 24
        +4
        I recall the first speech of Yanukovych in exile, if the Southeast rises, then it will not seem to anyone. What is now observed.
    6. Ross
      Ross April 16 2014 16: 59
      +31
      Donetsk warned!
      1. Victor Demchenko
        Victor Demchenko April 16 2014 19: 04
        0
        Give Kalash? I’ll come tomorrow! You can with your own, but then after the holidays, now the arms are closed ... good
    7. Validator
      Validator April 16 2014 17: 05
      +1
      No, these are clients, they’ll dump the amers
    8. joum
      joum April 16 2014 17: 14
      +1
      So, if anyone needed them there, they would have been there for a long time.
    9. Coffee_time
      Coffee_time April 16 2014 17: 20
      +24
      So here it is necessary to shake evil thoughts out of my head
    10. StolzSS
      StolzSS April 16 2014 17: 34
      +2
      Which London is the time to send them to a concentration camp on new land am
      1. Dimkin
        Dimkin April 16 2014 17: 59
        0
        A lot of honor to the new land, there still need to be imported by plane. Better all that they offered them to offer.
    11. Sandov
      Sandov April 16 2014 17: 59
      0
      Quote: Netto
      Well, what about the junta, to London?

      It pleases and encourages. If only they would not betray their people after. I hope normal Rusich sit there.
    12. Cherdak
      Cherdak April 16 2014 18: 21
      0
      Quote: Netto
      Well, what about the junta, to London?

      I liked the comment from AGRAM 2000 with InoSMI:

      Some wild farce is going on. The head of the CIA arrives in Kiev in search of the "black-water" mercenaries who have disappeared in the vastness of Donbass. The men of Lugansk are driving a rusty tank across the fields in a "Niva". Disabled Tymoshenko announces the recruitment of his army of volunteers. In Kramatorsk, another army of bandits disguised as bandits loudly and awkwardly attacks an airfield that no one needs. Zhirinovsky calls the degenerate Paruby and sends a warning from the Kremlin.
      He blushes with ears and swaggers in front of the camera of the ukro-Afghan journalist Nayem, from whose message about the Euro Maidan all this catastrophe began. The peasants of Kramatorsk are taking prisoner of the USSR champion in Greco-Roman wrestling, who was recently proclaimed deputy secretary of the NSDC and sent to lead the operation to clean up civilians. He went out to the peasants how to tell them in spirit that they were terrorists. The men believed and took him hostage.

      Meanwhile, in Kiev, a raid of legal extremists is besieged by illegal extremists who demand to act more extremist and accuse official extremists of having been bought by Putin. In response, the same accusations follow - that Putin sent under the Rada pseudo-Maidanites who are trying to destabilize the situation at the crucial moment.

      While the extremists of Kiev are arguing which of them was bought by Putin, a criminal case is being opened against a candidate beaten up by peaceful protestors for a hetman of a nonexistent Ukraine - apparently, because he remained alive. Another candidate was not allowed into the television studio under the threat of beating, the so-called Avtomaydanovtsy - of course, bought by Putin along with tires. The most real candidate for victory in the election, the leader of the dark forces Darth Vader, was completely removed from the race - he turned out to be too bright and prudent compared to the rest. On TV, people are convinced at the same time in two things: that Ukraine is one and all around are brothers and that part of this people are terrorists and separatists. The funny thing is that many viewers believe both.

      A hellish mixture of big top circus, walk-fields and export democracy. The feeling that the script was written by a rare Hollywood type Stallone. I would like to press the "off" button
    13. kristofer
      kristofer April 16 2014 18: 41
      +3
      why in london? in Mexico, mountain climbing)
    14. nizrum
      nizrum April 16 2014 19: 01
      +1
      In uranium mines, and the suit does not give out ... at least a little sense from them will be.
    15. Artem1967
      Artem1967 April 16 2014 19: 28
      0
      In London, evil gebists can poison, preferably in Washington. And do not delay with this matter!
    16. Dubrovsky
      Dubrovsky April 16 2014 21: 01
      0
      To Kolyma !!!
    17. I do not care
      I do not care April 16 2014 21: 08
      +2
      Quote: Netto

      Netto (1) Today, 16: 31
      Well, what about the junta, to London?
      1. cosmos111
        cosmos111 April 16 2014 21: 12
        +2
        Quote: me by
        In London, evil gebists can poison, preferably in Washington. And do not delay with this matter!

        Quote: me by
        To Kolyma !!!

        better on the KOL, all of these homosexuals with prosekami !!!!

        On the video you can see that a lot more soldiers have crossed over to the side of the people than 60-t !!!
    18. Krsk
      Krsk April 16 2014 21: 20
      +1
      Quote: Netto
      Well, what about the junta, to London?


      And it seems to me the time of "liberalistic values" has passed, you can't let the rats leave, otherwise others will quickly crawl out, the fosterlings are star-striped, they go to their mines for a miner's salary, and shl .... sorry panochka with a donut on a pumpkin to cook stupid gruel for them.
  2. Sergei75
    Sergei75 April 16 2014 16: 32
    +3
    I don’t believe, we passed on beliefs!
    1. Denis
      Denis April 16 2014 16: 34
      +13
      Quote: Sergei75
      I don’t believe, we passed on beliefs!

      We need to drink their vodka well and check laughing
      1. Genur
        Genur April 16 2014 16: 39
        +6
        Salsa, more salsa, but a vodka to show.
      2. pensioner
        pensioner April 16 2014 17: 14
        +9
        Quote: Denis
        We need to drink their vodka well and check

        I take it. yes
        1. Simple
          Simple April 16 2014 18: 02
          +3
          Quote: retired
          I take it



          pensioner , this is the most responsible direction.
          1. pensioner
            pensioner April 16 2014 18: 54
            +3
            Quote: Simple
            This is the most responsible area.

            I can give a tooth. Checked ...
      3. AVIATOR36662
        AVIATOR36662 April 16 2014 18: 32
        0
        It’s a very good idea, but it seems that they haven’t been drying out for the second or third week, and they’re doing it right too! That is how some junta leaders practically escaped in 1991! As they say, they went for this relief.
    2. Arhj
      Arhj April 16 2014 16: 47
      +29
      Quote: Sergei75
      I don’t believe, we passed on beliefs!

      By God, like children. We implemented a plan for the implementation of mishandled Cossacks, and immediately told about it to those to whom they sent.
      This is not even funny. First grade high school level.
      Sorry, but lying is also an art.
      1. Denis
        Denis April 16 2014 16: 59
        +6
        Quote: Arhj
        This is not even funny. First grade high school level.
        Sorry, but lying is also an art.

        The CIA taught tricky military tactics fool
        1. Irtysh
          Irtysh April 16 2014 17: 59
          +5
          Even pro-Maidan websites do not believe in a similar "military trick".

          In general, all the events in Ukraine are some kind of surrealism. And it seems like some kind of tragic event, but breaks into rzhach.

          And who will go to war for such water?

          "God, it's awkward in front of Don Valdemar." (c) B. Obama
      2. Alexei
        Alexei April 16 2014 17: 55
        +3
        Quote: Arhj
        We implemented a plan for the implementation of mishandled Cossacks, and immediately told about it to those to whom they sent.
        It is not even funny.

        I understood! The CIA came for a reason, they had an excellent "plan" prepared in advance, fragrant so strong (which cannot be bought anywhere without difficulty).
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  3. bubalik
    bubalik April 16 2014 16: 33
    +7
    The military says that the new Ukrainian authorities have not provided them with food for four days, reports Russia Today.

    “We decided not to fight with the people and not to defend such power,” the crew said.


    ,,, strange, but if fed, then they would shoot ,,, nonsense fool

    ,,, what do they think with their stomachs?
    1. nika407
      nika407 April 16 2014 18: 00
      +2
      When power is at one with the people, you can fight on an empty stomach. It's not about the stomach, I think it’s the skilled journalists who tied the unbound, as usual.
      1. Alexei
        Alexei April 16 2014 18: 05
        +1
        Quote: nika407
        It's not about the stomach, I think it’s the craftsmen who reporters tied the unbound, as usual.

        And what is there to be surprised at, theirs "seals" do not go on the attack if the dry closets are not put on time. They reason like that, judge others by themselves.
  4. kush62
    kush62 April 16 2014 16: 34
    +9
    Fascists operate by partisan methods. An evening of humor and nothing more. . Soon, all normal Ukrainian guys will go over to the East. What will comedians of Kiev come up with?
    1. Curculum
      Curculum April 16 2014 16: 42
      +23
      Quote: kush62
      Fascists operate by partisan methods. An evening of humor and nothing more.

      I am a "fallen"! In general, because of the constant miscarriages of this kind from the government's coming out, I "move" under the table along with the laptop and cognac.
      1. edeligor
        edeligor April 16 2014 16: 52
        +13
        good I, too, will probably come home now and open up Ararat. Under the table, it is unlikely, but for prevention it is necessary.
      2. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets April 16 2014 16: 55
        +10
        Quote: Kurkul
        and cognac.

        I'm with you. wink
        1. sniper
          sniper April 16 2014 17: 15
          +7
          Quote: edeligor
          I’ll come home now and open up Ararat.

          Quote: Vladimirets
          I'm with you.

          Duc, this is .... Guys, and I want to see you !!!! wassat Where to go then ???
          1. Curculum
            Curculum April 16 2014 17: 48
            +10
            Quote: sniper
            Duc, this is .... Guys, and I want to see you !!!! Where to go then ???

            Hero City Kiev, st. Left-bank - the name of the street, I think, prophetic. But it is here that I am at the moment. And my homeland is the USSR. (it may be emotionally, but excuse me - cognac actually took it on the chest, the guys brought such a piglet, and after Dubai I really missed it. It’s such news ...) drinks
            1. sniper
              sniper April 16 2014 17: 59
              +9
              Quote: Kurkul
              . And my homeland is the USSR

              This is our homeland !!! Come on for her, brother! drinks True, I don't have cognac, they say: "... this is Cognac in Armenia, and in Belarus - Yak Kon ..." But quite a decent vodka "Bulbash" for this occasion is available !!! wassat
              1. Curculum
                Curculum April 16 2014 18: 13
                +7
                Excellent component, brother !!! For the Motherland !!! drinks
                1. sniper
                  sniper April 16 2014 19: 11
                  +2
                  Quote: Kurkul
                  For the Motherland !!!

                  And what, they want to defeat us ??? Ohrenel, not otherwise ... wassat drinks
            2. Che Guevara
              Che Guevara April 16 2014 21: 00
              +2
              I'm with you guys shy away from Kazakhstani brandy, awesome thing, for the victory !!!! Uraa - aaaaaaaa
            3. Suhow
              Suhow April 16 2014 21: 53
              +2
              I already pulled vodka 100gr for peace and friendship.
          2. Victor Demchenko
            Victor Demchenko April 16 2014 19: 08
            +1
            bro, probably in Rivne, there somewhere Shushkevich stsuka dug in! am
            1. sniper
              sniper April 16 2014 20: 07
              +2
              Quote: Viktor Demchenko
              there somewhere Shushkevich stsuka dug in!

              And we get to it .... Although he doesn’t stand out against the modern background, so you can forget about him .... He didn’t have time to break firewood, but he tried .... am
    2. Genur
      Genur April 16 2014 16: 42
      +6
      Quote: kush62
      What will comedians of Kiev come up with?

      What do they think to restore the USSR ... well, at least, within the borders of 1937 ...
    3. lukke
      lukke April 16 2014 16: 44
      +23
      Fascists operate in partisan methods
      This is a new tactic, at first they handed over the Crimea, now they quietly push the equipment to the Southeast, then they declare war on themselves and surrender, and in their memoirs they will write about a multi-pass combination: as I did everything for the speedy merger of the two peoples! By the way, in Ukrainian forums there is a banter about the fact that the acting Defense Minister Misha Koval may not return from the Southeast if he was not fed in Kiev either
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    5. zzz
      zzz April 16 2014 17: 08
      +8
      Quote: kush62
      What will comedians of Kiev come up with?


      They will race to set the Russian flag over the Rada! And then to the amerikosy to tell that they are "pretend")))
    6. I read the news
      I read the news April 16 2014 17: 12
      +8
      Soon, all normal Ukrainian guys will go over to the East. What will comedians of Kiev come up with?

      That they reduce the concentration of separatists in the southeast.
  5. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 April 16 2014 16: 35
    +9
    The junta is about to end. UKRAINIAN ARMY goes to the side of the people. And they thought that she would fight with the people. drinks
  6. Same lech
    Same lech April 16 2014 16: 36
    +20
    Actually, the soldier should be fed, dressed, put on shoes and have a clear and clear goal for which he should die.

    In this case, the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are in a foolish position and the order must be executed and at the same time, you can’t fight against your people.

    The power in KIEV is illegitimate - it is captured by force with the help of cookies hehe he NULAND ... and the military must understand that now they are used as a floor rag (wiped and thrown away)
    1. dimdimich71
      dimdimich71 April 16 2014 17: 00
      +3
      We managed to sell the cookies, but they haven’t received new ones yet and you won’t be able to buy cookies from the people
    2. Suhow
      Suhow April 16 2014 21: 57
      +1
      and still the military are thinking about the golden eagle fighters whom they put for the execution of the knee order.
  7. KazakPatrol
    KazakPatrol April 16 2014 16: 36
    +5
    Damn, I want to rejoice, of course, but you need to beware of a dirty trick on the part of the command of Ukraine (the Junta's henchmen, of course), until they show themselves to be of no confidence! And in general, how did the unit take it and the very beginning of the movement towards the "enemy", this is a complete ATAS, and even with the flag of another state on its armor? Strongly somehow everything just turns out !!!
    1. Sergh
      Sergh April 16 2014 17: 35
      +6
      Quote: KazakPatrol
      Strongly somehow everything just turns out !!!

      Yes, absolutely nothing complicated. About this 25th airmobile brigade of disantourism more than once, not a single one has written. At first, the men complained that they were taken to the training camp only for 10 days, after another two or three weeks passed, they were not dismissed, and they were forced to sign an agreement on contract service immediately. On this occasion, and even then they didn’t report cutlets to them, and they didn’t live in bestial conditions, they made a buccaneer and a scandal with the authorities in the field. Most likely, after the whole scandal, they were stupidly thrown to the march far away with an obscure task and it is not known who and again without a zhrachka. Apparently, the result is on the face.
    2. Sergey Vl.
      Sergey Vl. April 16 2014 18: 49
      0
      In such an army, everything is simple!
  8. Ilotan
    Ilotan April 16 2014 16: 37
    +4
    "Mister Dragon freed one of his heads from military service due to illness, with its enrollment in the reserve of the first order. Exhausted Lancelot lost everything and was partially captured." (E. Schwartz. "Dragon")
  9. black_falcon
    black_falcon April 16 2014 16: 38
    +17
    But what is going on in the world .... As Bismarck said, "The people who do not want to feed their army will feed someone else's" In this case, the Junta is doing everything right, otherwise, God forbid, the military will fight against its people. And sooner or later we will feed our army only the flag will consist of white-blue-red stripes.
    1. Curculum
      Curculum April 16 2014 17: 55
      +1
      Quote: black_falcon
      But what is this happening in the world?

      I just do not understand what the hell you soldered minus?
  10. Anatolich
    Anatolich April 16 2014 16: 39
    +10
    [b] The Ministry of Defense denies that it is their BMP. Now we’ll recheck this information. The information is different - some say that our units went over to the side of the terrorists, which I exclude, others - that these are Russian infantry fighting vehicles.
    They no longer know what to lie, either the Ukrainian partisans or the Russian infantry fighting vehicles. Imagination stops working. How did Russian infantry fighting vehicles enter Ukraine? Or were they in ambush? We are waiting until they come up with new fables, but on Ukrainian sites nothing at all about this. request
    1. Coffee_time
      Coffee_time April 16 2014 16: 52
      +2
      Damn, come and collapse the numbers
    2. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov April 16 2014 17: 10
      +2
      Quote: Anatolich
      Or were they in ambush?

      Why such a thing? Just think, some 23 years in an ambush to sit! wink
      But in fact, it’s somehow alarming, the masks weren’t taken off, the soldier’s stoichka against the background of the drifting BMDekhi is some kind of enemy, and judging by how not the new recruits move ....
      May God make a mistake!
      1. surovts.valery
        surovts.valery April 16 2014 17: 19
        +1
        So these are self-defenders, if I’m not mistaken, and I was a self-defender at the wheel, I wrote out pirouettes in front of the public. And the full time Ukrainian carrier is clearly not up to it, it’s bad enough for them.
    3. ya.seliwerstov2013
      ya.seliwerstov2013 April 16 2014 18: 20
      +1
      the new Kiev authorities are trying to convince the Ukrainian and international community that the Russian flags on the Ukrainian armored personnel carriers in Kramatorsk and Slavyansk "were a military trick."
      I despise the hypocrites and liars, Who lies in the eyes without any hesitation,
      Who is not tormented by shame and regret
    4. Victor Demchenko
      Victor Demchenko April 16 2014 19: 31
      0
      firstly: not BMP but BMD-3, secondly ... request full ass of their explanations!
    5. Partisan Kramaha
      Partisan Kramaha April 16 2014 21: 26
      +4
      How could the Russian BMD and BMP approach Kramatorsk from the west? They appeared in the Old Town, and for this it was imperceptible to get through Sotsgorod and the Kazenny Torets river. Moreover, along the end face there were continuous villages interspersed with factories. Well, the riffraff was not weak .I'm at work, without 20ti 7am my wife is calling in hysterics, armored personnel carriers are going down the street under the children’s window! (Well, she doesn’t understand the technique) The contraceptive chief didn’t let go. At half past seven his wife calls again, they stand meters in 300 from the house near the 6th school. Then, about 9 hours, a guy from the brigade calls up with friends of the militia, taxi drivers podsuyutsya and blocked the passage, then people ran from the bazaar, which is about 500 meters away. High began. Then the column commander came out and said no one who is not going to shoot, give something to eat, otherwise they didn’t eat for three days. After some time they raised the flag of Russia and left. At that time, another convoy appeared from Sergeyevka’s side. The guys at the checkpoint on Conder lit the column turned and went down the fields from the mountain to the village of Ivanovka where it collided with the first column. What was there I didn’t know. Then, by lunch, there was an infa that there was still a column in Mayachka village. The local ones tried to block, but they broke through with shooting over the heads. It’s unclear where this convoy went then. In the middle of the day, train traffic stopped, but in the evening it resumed. The passage to Ivanovka from the Old City was blocked on the bridge over the Bychka rivulet. It’s unknown who and why. It’s like there was some shooting in the village Pchelkino. The Mi-24 circled the whole day over the city with full suspension. At 2 o'clock we saw a transport plane. And at half past five from the side of Slavyansk towards Druzhkovka the Mi-8 also flew with full suspension. Moreover, helicopters fly at an altitude of 200-300 meters. Now kind of quiet and we'll see. Well, something like that.
  11. Zeus
    Zeus April 16 2014 16: 39
    +4
    If this logic goes further, then when the southeast is consolidating, after which he brings the army to Kiev to overthrow the junta, this junta will say: in fact, these are the troops of Ukraine, and the rebels are already defeated.
  12. joum
    joum April 16 2014 16: 40
    +2
    Why did this Sobolev so stupidly surrender his "partisans"? ))
  13. Ulairy
    Ulairy April 16 2014 16: 40
    +1
    The military of Ukraine raised the Russian flag because they were not fed
    And they immediately began to feed? To whom do they now obey and who is on their allowance? By law they are deserters and traitors, as a human being ... well, I don't know. Humanly, they provided one more disadvantage of the fighting efficiency of these Kiev "12 monkeys", which pleases. I hope they crossed over because of their convictions, and not because of the "belly". Very little information, a lot of disinformation ...
    1. Zeus
      Zeus April 16 2014 16: 47
      +8
      they are deserters and traitors about the law,


      According to the law, they swore an oath, and their Supreme Commander-in-Chief - Yanukovych V.F., and their commander-in-chief gave them an order - not to engage in clashes with the population and Russian troops!
      1. Suhow
        Suhow April 16 2014 22: 07
        0
        this situation is the threshold of a civil war, and in Slavyansk, citizens of Ukraine, so everyone can act according to their conscience. And the oath is not quite right here. Although this decision was made, I think it's not easy.
    2. sinukvl
      sinukvl April 16 2014 16: 51
      +13
      According to the law of the Junta, they are deserters. And according to the law of conscience, these are people with HONOR!
      1. Zeus
        Zeus April 16 2014 16: 56
        +17
        The junta overthrew the President by violating the law, the junta abrogated the Constitution, violating the law, the junta announced a new constitution, violating the law, the junta issued an order according to which the government does not have the right to use force, breaking the law, the junta announced the beginning of military action against the protesters. Tymoshenko announced the creation of armed groups, and since no one is Tymoshenko, this means that in Ukraine any person can create gangs. All of the above means that there are no laws for the junta.
        1. Ulairy
          Ulairy April 16 2014 18: 10
          0
          hi Thank you guys, I read your opinion, I think it is true, of course. But questions from the abundance of desa remained ... Who will feed them, supply the crews of combat vehicles with ammunition, and where will they live?
          1. yur
            yur April 16 2014 22: 32
            0
            Quote: Ulairy
            an abundance of desa remained ... Who will feed them, supply crews of combat vehicles with ammunition, and where will they live?
            Someone feeds several thousand self-defense fighters of Donbass, and feed these lads. good
    3. edeligor
      edeligor April 16 2014 16: 57
      +5
      Quote: Ulairy
      By law they are deserters and traitors,

      How is it? They took the oath to the people, in the person of the legitimately elected president. A coup d'etat has taken place - so hold on to what you fought for, as they say.
  14. tnship2
    tnship2 April 16 2014 16: 40
    +7
    Well zadolbali. NOT A BTR IT'S A BATTLE'S BATTLE MACHINE.
    1. edeligor
      edeligor April 16 2014 16: 59
      +1
      Quote: tnship2
      IT IS NOT A BTR AND A BATTLE DESCENT.

      Yes, and it is stitched through with SVD, unfortunately ...
      1. BYV
        BYV April 16 2014 18: 52
        +2
        Quote: edeligor
        Yes, and it is stitched through with SVD, unfortunately ...

        And Kalash breaks the rail ... This is nothing more than a legend.
        1. Suhow
          Suhow April 16 2014 22: 09
          0
          I know an AK-47 witness. He is sinking a rail. I believe him, he is a retired.
          1. BYV
            BYV April 16 2014 23: 58
            +1
            Do you know how many accidents happened when checking this legend? When I was on a business trip, the SOBrovtsy shot at me from AKM (though, as it were, we were not quite sober wink ) As a result, a rebound over the ear. Sobering up, you know. The distance is about 5 meters at right angles. Yes, I almost forgot: the ammunition 7,62BZ (black with red).
  15. Koronik
    Koronik April 16 2014 16: 41
    +3
    It's only the beginning? It is a pity, of course, no one wanted such a finale. But apparently in a different way. At least they regretted the young guys, but I felt sorry for all the women and the elderly. I think before Easter the issue of Ukraine will be resolved.
  16. Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 April 16 2014 16: 41
    +6
    It's time to form new columns to Kiev laughing
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    2. pensioner
      pensioner April 16 2014 17: 48
      +3
      Quote: Ruslan67
      It's time to form new columns to Kiev

      Will you show the road?
      Hello elusive! hi drinks
      1. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 April 16 2014 23: 50
        +2
        Hi drinks I explain to all interested-nehru catch wassat The Internet in the house barked at a cheap item. It seems to be done. Before that, it will turn on for 5 minutes and again ...
  17. Gagarin
    Gagarin April 16 2014 16: 43
    +17
    Information on the transfer of troops and equipment is fully CONFIRMED, direct participants called from the field. None of this is the military trick of the junta, it is TOTAL DULL!
    The soldier was finally fed.
    1. gfhjkm
      gfhjkm April 16 2014 16: 58
      -4
      You can’t believe them. All admin can see the weapons at night. buildings to seize.
      1. nizrum
        nizrum April 16 2014 17: 41
        +4
        If only they will look for a vodka ...

        Well, what kind of self-respecting commander will blow to the whole country that his fighters are behind enemy lines?
      2. Sergh
        Sergh April 16 2014 17: 48
        +5
        Quote: gfhjkm
        all admin can see at night. buildings to seize.

        Don’t panic (wrote above). This is the 25th airmobile disantourism from partisans at a ten-day training camp, which they then forcibly held and forcibly signed a contract. Many men lost their jobs. So they rebelled even in their location, well, you see, and teased from their brother-in-command. Everything is fine.
      3. Suhow
        Suhow April 16 2014 22: 11
        0
        I think they are supervised and what for them it nuno.
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  18. surovts.valery
    surovts.valery April 16 2014 16: 44
    +28
    Impromptu.
    From the report of the head of the special operation Lieutenant General Krutoff to the Supreme Commander: "My f ..., our valiant troops, numbering more than 40 people, guided by the plan of anti-terrorist operation developed by you personally, codenamed" Drang nakh Osten ", landed at the airfield near Kramatorsk, where terrorists disguised as civilians in the number of 100500 people were put to flight, who fled in panic towards the Russian border, throwing on the field the identification cards of FSB officers and portraits of Putin.I set up an operational headquarters at the airfield and immediately and strictly followed your instructions on neutralization of terrorists in the cities of Sloviansk and Kramatorsk.In addition to using all available aircraft available to the Ukrainian Armed Forces to intimidate terrorists and separatists, I have also undertaken means of psychological warfare, such as: the use of its latest achievements, the slogan "He who does not jump, he!", the sight of galloping patriots of Ukraine led to stupas op of separatists, albeit not for long, this method requires additional study. However, the enemy quickly recovered, terrorists and separatists dressed as civilians began to appear in large numbers around our place of deployment again, with the support of an even larger number of Putin's agents, also disguised as civilians. To my attempt to present them with your ultimatum, as well as your peace initiatives, they used the methods of conducting hostilities prohibited by the Hague Convention - they tried to punch me in the face.
    In such conditions, I consider it impossible to continue the anti-terrorist operation, besides, to support the separatists, terrorists, Putin's agents, disguised as civilians, with their weapons and armored vehicles, the servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, disguised as Putin's agents, approached. I consider it expedient to surrender to Putin's agents in order to then infiltrate Putin's agents and continue to serve our Great Ukraine in its ranks. "
    1. Com T-64a
      Com T-64a April 16 2014 17: 03
      +12
      It is not impromptu, radio interception! laughing
    2. Grenz
      Grenz April 16 2014 17: 05
      +7
      What does Katz offer?
      Katz offers to give up!
      Good script for Kharatyan.
      Thanks +++
  19. 123321
    123321 April 16 2014 16: 45
    +5
    I.O. President of Ukraine Turchinov again gathers the Council of National Security

    In connection with the “sabotage” of the execution of orders to suppress the protest movement in the Donetsk region, the cases of mass transfer of military personnel together with military equipment to the side of the Donbass self-defense forces, as well as the suspension of the return of armored vehicles by Russia from Crimea, a meeting of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine is scheduled for today evening. .
    1. lukke
      lukke April 16 2014 16: 55
      +4
      today evening is scheduled a meeting of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine
      there was also: "every member of the National Security and Defense Council must have a coke with them to the meeting, for the fastest development of a solution to overcome the crisis"
      1. Net
        Net April 16 2014 16: 59
        +5
        As Ostap used to say: "The meeting continues!" laughing
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      3. AVIATOR36662
        AVIATOR36662 April 16 2014 18: 52
        0
        The most interesting thing is that they can discuss the issue of preparing an elite zone for themselves in the east or in the west. Before they sit down, before they leave! Nobody canceled this law of life. Of course, those guilty of victims on the Maidan should answer to the maximum, there will be no condescension. Yes, and betrayal to the Motherland is also the maximum. This senior SBU will get it.
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    3. Ilotan
      Ilotan April 16 2014 17: 00
      +2
      And now, collectively shoot yourself? They drove themselves into a corner. For some reason I’m not sorry.
    4. AVIATOR36662
      AVIATOR36662 April 16 2014 18: 45
      +2
      And the senior NSDC yesterday personally warned Colonel Zhirinovsky VV that they would be tried in the Rostov Military Court and that he (the chairman of the NSDC) should be prepared in advance. We won’t issue them to Brussels and The Hague, we will manage ourselves. It seemed that Parubiy agreed.
  20. Roman1970
    Roman1970 April 16 2014 16: 49
    +6
    Well, there’s nowhere for the soldiers to go, they don’t want to shoot at their own! I don’t know where Turchinov will find the military who can pull the trigger ... If only some pravoseki are frostbitten all over ...
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets April 16 2014 16: 58
      +5
      Quote: Roman1970
      I don’t know where Turchinov will find the military who can pull the trigger ... If only some pravoseki are frostbitten all over ...

      Blackwater just for this and exists.
      1. yur
        yur April 16 2014 22: 44
        0
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Blackwater just for this and exists.
        So too are slowly lost. Already the CIA director himself came to look for them, but he did not seem to find them. laughing
    2. Suhow
      Suhow April 16 2014 22: 17
      0
      More self-defense and Svidomo thunders. Only then how to extinguish the fire of a civil war tied with blood ??
  21. tolyasik0577
    tolyasik0577 April 16 2014 16: 49
    +4
    who screams at all the rumors about military cunning at that moment until it is accomplished. my mother, why is the junta so moronic ?.
  22. Evil Pole
    Evil Pole April 16 2014 16: 51
    +5
    Bratuny! Do not boil. Do you think everything is so simple there flags, statements to the media, etc., etc.? Yes, with these guys a long time ago they frayed whom they should otherwise they would not have entered the city with a kandachka. Still in doubt? I’ll tell you a joke: It’s not so easy to take and enter the city! A little off in Kyuwe stop
  23. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. April 16 2014 16: 52
    +1
    “It’s our armed units that used the partisan method of penetration. This event will be known very soon - literally within an hour or three, and you will understand that this, in fact, was a breakthrough that was provided by our units”, - said Sobolev at a briefing 16 April.

    I didn’t understand what kind of method this is that which gives top management (acting minister).
  24. BARIN
    BARIN April 16 2014 16: 53
    +4
    )))))))))))))))
    You have not heard the last annealing from our "generalsimus") This is all a very cunning plan of Kiev))

    "
    The acting chairman of the All-Ukrainian Batkivshchyna faction in the Verkhovna Rada, Sergei Sobolev, announces the intentional use of Russian flags on Ukrainian technology to disorientate the separatists of the eastern regions.

    He announced this at a briefing, write Ukrainian News.
    “There was an open statement, and I think that it will be officially announced through the press service, that our armed units used the guerrilla method of penetrating directly into those units that today were controlled by the military units of the Russian Federation and the separatists that they finance”, he declared.
    According to Sobolev, this information was confirmed at a closed parliamentary meeting by Acting Minister of Defense Mikhail Koval.
    "
    1. Curculum
      Curculum April 16 2014 18: 01
      +1
      Quote: BARIN
      Sergei Sobolev announces the intentional use of Russian flags on Ukrainian technology to disorientate the separatists of the eastern regions.

      Of course, I knew that he was, but that a stupid person, too ... In short, SirGay Snickers, 2 in one ...
  25. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN April 16 2014 16: 56
    +3
    Torchinyuki - you better pour in the pockets of the earth and carry with you! It's time to get used to it! good
  26. mig31
    mig31 April 16 2014 16: 57
    +1
    Parliament is not up to joy, bummer after bummer, it's time to tear the claws ....
  27. Bobxnumx
    Bobxnumx April 16 2014 16: 58
    +2
    It is gratifying that military men conscious and respecting themselves and their people refuse to comply with orders contrary to reason. Having surrendered weapons of self-defense, they marally support their people, and not brainless nippers.
  28. albi77
    albi77 April 16 2014 17: 04
    +3
    I finally like the advancement of the junta ...
    one of the orders on the twitter gives, the other strategic information merges.
  29. Kornilovets
    Kornilovets April 16 2014 17: 05
    +3
    They feel that everything that was gathered under the raisins will go against them tomorrow ... and an urgent meeting at the "top", we are waiting for the next "ultimatum" ...

  30. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 16 2014 17: 05
    +4
    Everything is logical and simple. Military personnel are ordinary people, and ordinary people do not want war and do not want to kill unarmed people. That is why we have such a result.
  31. Villas
    Villas April 16 2014 17: 05
    +4
    The first Bender in Slavyansk
    16 minutes ago
    Yes, we crushed these Nazi fascists, but did not finish seeing in the 45th.

    This is a post on rambler ... they need to learn history, we didn’t pass all these creatures in the woods at one time, we felt sorry for the reptiles ....
  32. doc62
    doc62 April 16 2014 17: 06
    +1
    what trojan they don’t have enough mind to crank look at their faces
  33. Anatolich
    Anatolich April 16 2014 17: 06
    +4
    The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine still does not know about the transition of the Ukrainian military to the side of the inhabitants of Donbass. Photos and videos distributed on the Internet as supporting arguments are in fact “fake,” he explained. about. Head of the Press and Information Department Bogdan Senik.
    The crews of the Ukrainian army demonstrate drift skills in armored vehicles instead of fighting. The crews that entered Slavyansk followed the example of colleagues from Kramatorsk and, according to preliminary information, switched to the side of the inhabitants of Donbass.
    This is on Reedus.
    16: 41With the paratroopers in Kramatorsk they are 'working'. With the commander of each vehicle, the "local" is talking. They rejuvenate, persuade them to go "to the side of the people", to the side of the "Donetsk republic". The local village head (this is the village of Krasnotorka near Kramatorsk) says that among the blockers there are few locals, mostly unknown people. I saw how such men, 20 people, in sports suits, with St. George's ribbons were brought to the scene of the event on a cargo Gazelle.
    16: 35From the beginning of the military intervention, counterintelligence revealed and terminated the activities of about 40 personnel officers of the Russian special services, as well as agents recruited by them, from both Russian and Ukrainian citizens.
    15: 55The Ministry of Defense denies that it is their BMP. Now we’ll recheck this information. The information is different - some say that our units went over to the side of the terrorists, which I exclude, others - that these are Russian infantry fighting vehicles.

    And this is on RBC. Well complete, when will the media be objective? am One thing is for sure Whoever does not want to feed his army will feed someone else's! laughing
    1. sniper
      sniper April 16 2014 17: 29
      +5
      Quote: Anatolich
      Whoever does not want to feed his army will feed someone else's!

      The junta is trickier, she wants the southeast to feed her army, Russian flags were issued instead of rations to feed the troops .... wassat
  34. tank64rus
    tank64rus April 16 2014 17: 07
    +4
    "Acting Chairman of the All-Ukrainian Union" Batkivshchyna "faction in the Verkhovna Rada, Sergei Sobolev, announced the intentional use of Russian flags on Ukrainian vehicles to disorient separatists in the eastern regions." Well, we've seen enough of 17 moments of spring. It remains to sign the Eustace Center - to Vladimir Putin.
  35. Evgeniy31
    Evgeniy31 April 16 2014 17: 10
    +1
    By the way, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine has already stated that armored personnel carriers with the Russian flag, it was a tactic to enter the city and not to meet popular resistance on its way) laughing
    1. Afinogen
      Afinogen April 16 2014 17: 19
      +1
      Quote: Evgeniy31
      By the way, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine has already stated that armored personnel carriers with the Russian flag, it was a tactic to enter the city and not to meet popular resistance on its way)


      It’s good that they said so, otherwise they could say that Russia is already in Ukraine laughing
      1. Anatolich
        Anatolich April 16 2014 17: 31
        +1
        Well, they said: The information is different - some say that our units went over to the side of the terrorists, which I exclude, others - that these are Russian infantry fighting vehicles.
  36. Belarus
    Belarus April 16 2014 17: 26
    0
    Maybe I’m wrong, but what the military said is even if you can say no proof of allegiance to the people.
    How to verify that they really went over to the side of ordinary people, I unfortunately do not know yet.
    1. mamont5
      mamont5 April 16 2014 18: 12
      0
      Quote: Belarus
      How to verify that they really went over to the side of ordinary people, I unfortunately do not know yet.


      As I understand it, they surrendered weapons and not only personal ones.
  37. Belarus
    Belarus April 16 2014 17: 32
    0
    http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1791270.html
    very interesting, if true then let them now try to fly soldier
    1. I read the news
      I read the news April 16 2014 17: 51
      0
      Nonsense. The truck was with shots to the Grad
      1. Manul
        Manul April 17 2014 00: 35
        0
        Quote: I readNews
        Nonsense. The truck was with shots to the Grad

        fool fool fool WELL HOW MUCH POSSIBLE !!! (Well, sorry for the caps - it burst out) How much can you repeat someone else's nonsense ??? Well, who are you lucky? Needles, A whole truck packed with them, through untested territory, without combat escort, and for use against civilians who, not like the Air Force, have no armored vehicles or small arms properly. The same goes for shells for the "Grad" ". They are about 3 meters long and weigh about 70 kilograms. Which truck are we going to load it into? That's right. In the onboard 3-axle Ural (and this is not specifying the parcel wrapper yet. Actually, there is a special vehicle for them. Will you prepare a volley by hand? lol ). And which truck was stopped? That's right - no one knows, because no one asked. And they would ask - I would not be surprised if they answered you - Gazelle.
        There is only one video posted, in which this wave of revelations is suspected. There they found 2 boxes of grenade launchers and 2 boxes of charges for them. Apparently a truck filled with "Needles" and "Grada" shells grew out of this truck.
        1. I read the news
          I read the news April 17 2014 02: 31
          0
          There they found 2 boxes of grenade launchers and 2 boxes of charges to them
          With a tent truck it’s clear.
          BUT
          In addition to it, there was also a laden side with about 3 meters long or even longer, square wooden crates.
        2. igor_m_p
          igor_m_p April 17 2014 04: 03
          0
          Actually, there were TWO messages. One featured a tilt car, but I didn't quite catch it from the video - either "Gazelle" or "Bychok". In the car sat the National Guards, pretending to be self-defense - with St. George's ribbons. The cargo - really shots to the RPG-7, what flashed in the video - tandem PG-7VR.
          In another story, which took place earlier, two onboard KRAZ and an accompanying police car appeared. I didn't see the video, but there were a lot of photos. At least the KRAZ were loaded with boxes, the dimensions of which were just suitable for the Grad shells. It was in connection with this KRAZ that "Needles" appeared in the first messages. The first message simply amazed with its enchantingness: “At the entrance to Slavyansk, local self-defense detained KrAZ. Under the tarpaulin they found a full body from Iglama - ammunition for the Grad.
          The author seems to be just poorly versed in weapons systems.
  38. sergio6769
    sergio6769 April 16 2014 17: 38
    +7
    I went to the censor ... there is panic lol quote: [comment deleted]
    Alexander Dergachev

    donated Donbass, I am only from Slavic - no resistance Ukrainian. army. It's just a disgrace: the guys from the Dnieper spent four days in BMP-shkahs, without orders, without grub. The army turned away from them, and they surrendered, so the locals at least fed them. And green men calmly stand in the center, people take pictures with them, communicate. But it’s immediately obvious that the special forces: everyone is equally tall (at least 185cm), uniformly pumped up, the equipment is new, the barrels are new. Where are the Ukrainian security forces? In 2 days, all Slavyansk will be for Russia, because Ukraine stupidly merged it.

    16.04.2014 16:16
    1. Manul
      Manul April 17 2014 00: 42
      0
      Quote: sergio6769
      donated to Donbass

      Oh, sorry - minus. crying I didn’t notice the hats. I compensated with a plus in the rating hi
  39. 62 RUS
    62 RUS April 16 2014 17: 40
    +1

    Which London? In their mine, let the way work for the benefit of Donbass.
  40. mvv
    mvv April 16 2014 17: 42
    0
    It is not for nothing that the Amer’s boat rubs near Odessa — it is preparing an evacuation. wink
    1. Anatolich
      Anatolich April 16 2014 17: 52
      +7
      An American boat is already in the Romanian port, after our bomber flew over it 12 times, and the crew undergoes psychological rehabilitation and erases the port. laughing lol
  41. surovts.valery
    surovts.valery April 16 2014 17: 45
    +2
    By the way, there are such concepts in military law as surrender, internment. If you do not go into legal quirks, then to justify himself as an "unfortunate", every soldier of the Ukrainian army can try on the status of a prisoner of war or internee. A prisoner of war and an internee is the same soldier, only in a special situation. I understand that in this case, these concepts are hardly suitable (who took him prisoner ?, who interned on their own territory), but from a moral point of view, it can help save face.
    PS I wrote it and I doubt it myself.
  42. russkijbelarus
    russkijbelarus April 16 2014 17: 46
    +7
    Journalist S. Cantone (euronews) asks people without identification marks in Slavyansk: -Where are you from?
    -from the Donetsk region;
    - Where did you get these tanks and armored vehicles?
    - from the Soviet Union ...

    Well done ... You can add jokes.
    By the way, at the beginning, euronews at the mention of Slavyansk persistently put emphasis on the first syllable. And the other day they began to pronounce correctly.
  43. russkijbelarus
    russkijbelarus April 16 2014 17: 47
    +2
    Journalist S. Cantone (euronews) asks people without identification marks in Slavyansk: -Where are you from?
    -from the Donetsk region;
    - Where did you get these tanks and armored vehicles?
    - from the Soviet Union ...

    Well done ... You can add jokes.
    By the way, at the beginning, euronews at the mention of Slavyansk persistently put emphasis on the first syllable. And the other day they began to pronounce correctly.
  44. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec April 16 2014 17: 53
    0
    It will be amusing when all the newly arrived Ukrainian military will go over to the side of Donbas, Turchinov will be left alone with his sullen face and will run away like a dog quietly.
    1. MAGGNUM
      MAGGNUM April 16 2014 19: 17
      +2
      He can’t be allowed to escape, I want to see how he will get a life sentence. Although he is not worth it. It must be judged in China according to their laws, and then at the stadium a bullet in the back of the head, or better, by hanging, so that the bastard gets offended!
  45. Signaller
    Signaller April 16 2014 17: 56
    0
    Here is your grandmother and St. George’s day in April. Until they really show the actions of these forces, say nothing lower, but they must be respected. Yes, plus they captured a truck with NEEDLES. Well, here, the kirdyk also stealthily crept up to the helicopters, it will not take long to wait. Morning evenings are wiser.
    1. I read the news
      I read the news April 16 2014 17: 58
      0
      Where do you get information about needles?
      1. Anatolich
        Anatolich April 16 2014 22: 32
        0
        He probably confused this, the video was recently stopped by the Urals, there are boxes with "flies" in the back, armored vehicles, cartridges, and several boxes with charges for RPG-7
  46. Evkur
    Evkur April 16 2014 17: 57
    +1
    To the circus. Show them to the cage and then to the world of these clowns!
  47. Fucknato
    Fucknato April 16 2014 17: 57
    +3
    Stock up on banderlog diapers! Rustle pads and choke on wardrobe items !!!
  48. mamont5
    mamont5 April 16 2014 17: 59
    +1
    "Also, according to him, the head of the defense department did not confirm the reports about the transition of the Ukrainian military to the opposite side."

    And why they should have been reported to him. He is no longer their commander. Here it was also reported: "The Army of the South-East was able to seize 2 T-64 tanks from the Ukrainian armed forces. Both vehicles were blocked by demonstrators in cars and surrounded by unarmed people. After a rather short verbal skirmish between the crew and the Anti-Maidan activists, both tanks were left by the military and occupied by the soldiers of the Army of the South-East "
    http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1791270.html
  49. Vyacheslav 64
    Vyacheslav 64 April 16 2014 18: 03
    +7
    With a kind word and a gun you can achieve more than just a kind word.
    Al Capone.
  50. Stiletto
    Stiletto April 16 2014 18: 04
    +1
    Well, I would like to wish Turchinov more of these "military tricks". So soon not only the South-East, but also other regions will be cleared of huntyaks.