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And one of our Su-24 in the sea warrior!



The Pentagon admitted that the imitation of the Su-24 attack on the US Navy destroyer had a demoralizing effect on the crew.

27 destroyer crew members filed resignation reports (information not confirmed. - Ed. "IN"). Commenting on their actions, they said they did not intend to put life in danger.

The Pentagon on Monday issued a statement in which it claimed that the Russian Su-24 bomber flew several times on Saturday near the US Navy destroyer Donald Cook in the Black Sea and at the same time imitated a combat attack several times.

Pentagon spokesman Col. Stephen Warren told Reuters that a Russian bomber had flown twelve times at a low altitude not far from an American destroyer. Warren called such maneuvers frightening and unacceptable. They demoralize the personnel of the ship and adversely affect the overall psychological climate among the military.

Warren noted that the destroyer patrolled the waters in the west of the Black Sea when the incident occurred. According to him, the ship is now safe in the Romanian port, where it was urgently evacuated. Members of the crew of the ship undergo the necessary procedures with a psychologist to recover from the transferred stress.

"Donald Cook" - the third ship of the US Navy, which was sent to the Black Sea lately. Earlier, the United States had already sent the Taylor frigate to the sea, but the ship ran aground near the Black Sea coast of Turkey, because of which it was unable to continue its mission.

According to international maritime treaties, American ships can not be in the Black Sea more than 14 days. Exceeding this period gives Russia the legal right to make a rocket attack and destroy these ships without declaring war on the United States. Knowing this possibility, the crew members and commanders of the American ships are naturally experiencing their lives. And although the Pentagon promised to increase the insurance sums of military personnel from 1 million dollars to 3 million dollars, very few people calmed down. Survival on the open sea and then receive an insurance payment is not enough chances. And dead money is not needed.

As a result of the events described, the crew of the Donald Cook was forced to sail with a shortage of personnel. The further dismissal of 27 crewmembers, possibly followed by others, threatens the destroyer’s continued successful execution of the task. (Anton Chumakov, news agency novorus.info)

It's like, dear?

But what about the intrepid fleet of the United States? Where, then, is the latest Aegis air defense system? This is generally what then, if for a “bearish disease” one (not the most sophisticated one, I note) of a Russian bomber is missing?

This, you know, shame the jungle.

Could not resist, called a friend. He served on the Pacific Fleet, as part of the defense, served (on the "Quick"). I asked him how this situation? “And then, a free target would be worked out. I would behave greyhound - would frighten. Only they never behaved greyhounds. Point is weak. ” That's the whole answer.

In vain "Cook" waited with protest rallies in Odessa. Soaking in the rain. Apparently, our pilot did not know about the upcoming protest rally, so he broke off the whole prospect.

And now the luxurious trough "establishes ties with the Romanian Navy." Before the Romanian frigates flaunts. And obviously not going to Odessa.

The perspective is still being drawn: at this rate, soon the entire water area of ​​the Black Sea will be filled with all kinds of troughs “performing patrols”. American, French, English, who else will tighten there?

I wonder what will happen if the old “drying” is not released, but the “carcass”? Of those in the Crimea are now tanning? So, fly?

Probably not. Well this traffic jam at the entrance to the Bosphorus will be steeper than on Andropov Avenue in Moscow. And they will beat again ...

Oh, guys, well, where are you taking? Well this is not Iraq. This is Russia. And in our life alone there was a warrior in the field. And at sea. And in heaven. It was about our pilots Vysotsky wrote: “There are eight of us - two of us. The alignment before the fight is not ours, but we will play. ” So they would sit at home, take care of the nerves. And we will populate here somehow.

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  1. Stalevar
    Stalevar April 16 2014 06: 36
    +49
    Well, I understand scary when such a fool comes to you. But to submit reports from the soldiers who took the oath is already too much))). And how are they going to fight?
    1. ded10041948
      ded10041948 April 16 2014 06: 47
      +42
      How how? "Without putting your lives in danger"!
      1. Stalevar
        Stalevar April 16 2014 06: 49
        +33
        The crew members undergo the necessary procedures with a psychologist to recover from the stress.
        I still don’t understand if it’s a warship or a pleasure yacht of Washington Kindergarten No. 142. They are scared, they work with a psychologist - PIZ ... C. The army is a reference to clowns !!! Do not scare our gentle Americans, they are very afraid to endanger their lives.
        1. Stalevar
          Stalevar April 16 2014 06: 50
          +11
          And who will clean the ship from shit now? Romanians what?
          1. APASUS
            APASUS April 16 2014 07: 14
            +36
            Quote: Stalevar
            And who will clean the ship from shit now? Romanians what?

            Yes, there are plenty of people who want to, they will drive them off to the Baltic with tongues wiped dry.
            The fact is that Russia is not Libya or Iraq and the plane can actually sink this vessel. The USA faced an adversary that was not inferior to them in strength and sailors feel it in their own skin. Usually they are used to hollowing peaceful cities .......... ..
            1. GDP
              GDP April 16 2014 09: 26
              +5
              Under international maritime treaties, American ships cannot be in the Black Sea for more than 14 days. Exceeding this period gives Russia a legal right to launch a missile attack and destroy these ships without declaring US war.

              good
              The US military experienced extreme psychological stress

              And in Kromatorsk, much more serious fighter maneuvers, and some say a real attack - provoked only outrage and an attempt to fire at the plane from a Kalashnikov assault rifle ...
              The junta should draw conclusions ...
          2. aktanir
            aktanir April 16 2014 07: 22
            +44
            Early to celebrate just don't start. The information is not confirmed, and far-reaching dreamy conclusions are already being made. The destroyer is not a merchant ship or a tanker, there are military men who know what they are going to. Who would have fought in Afghanistan and Iraq if the Americans are so sensitive and weak-hearted? And who would have allowed the old drying up to the ship at all if a war had been officially unleashed between Russia and the USA? There is only one positive point - in practice, the attack on a ship of a foreign state has been tested. This is really an experience for the pilot! Everything else is speculation.
            1. AndreyS
              AndreyS April 16 2014 07: 36
              +33
              Quote: aktanir
              Early to celebrate, just do not start. The information is not confirmed, and far-reaching dreamy conclusions are already being made.

              Dear! Information on 12 flights of SU-24 is on the Pentagon's website. And the fact that they just ... is natural. In the eighties I served at the airport in Severomorsk-3, in 89 only the regiment of Sushek from Afghanistan was withdrawn. So here they are, in order not to lose professional skills, they sometimes made military calls at our facilities (drive stations). I can say from my own feelings - it’s not pleasant enough (this despite the fact that I knew there will be no attack), and they also have such a pretty powerful siren on board and if it turns it on when diving, then I want to burrow somewhere.
              Unfortunately, the article made a small slip of the pen, ships are allowed to stay not 14, but 21 days!
            2. Duke
              Duke April 16 2014 08: 15
              +1
              Well, not Iraq. It's Russia. And in our life there was one warrior in the field. And at sea. And in heaven. This is about our pilots Vysotsky wrote: “There are eight of them - we are two. The alignment before the battle is not ours, but we will play. ”

              We also had a flag demonstration.
            3. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir April 16 2014 08: 32
              +7
              Quote: aktanir
              Who would have fought in Afghanistan and Iraq if the Americans are so sensitive and weak-hearted?

              and they are fighting there?
              1. 77bob1973
                77bob1973 April 16 2014 09: 50
                +1
                They are in Afghanistan at bases behind three perimeters and don’t show their nose!
                1. vovan50
                  vovan50 April 16 2014 11: 52
                  0
                  "They are in Afghanistan at bases around three perimeters, and they don’t show their nose!"
                  Yes, and the field commanders are covered that they would not be touched.
              2. Mhpv
                Mhpv April 16 2014 11: 48
                0
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                and they are fighting there?

                Yeah sometimes like that hi
            4. Wheel
              Wheel April 16 2014 08: 41
              +6
              Quote: aktanir
              The information is not confirmed, and far-reaching dreamy conclusions are already being made.

              Information verified. Alas and ah!
              Quote: aktanir
              The destroyer is not a merchant ship or a tanker, there are military men who know what they are going to. Who would have fought in Afghanistan and Iraq if the Americans are so sensitive and weak-hearted?

              Yes, it is true who, and most importantly, HOW?
              If remote shooting of infants is considered great valor, then yes, they know what they are going to.
              And how they fight Fallujah and Kalai Dzhangi to you as an example.
              And don’t forget to recall pipiphax strikes.
              And platoon visits to the shop for cigarettes ...
              Quote: aktanir
              And who would have allowed the old drying up to the ship at all if a war had been officially unleashed between Russia and the USA?

              And who would not let?
              Those who got it?
              Honestly, I doubt it ...

              Naturally, hat-making is not worth it, but you should not dismiss reality.
              A sober picture will have some advantages. Terrible is not only the underestimation, but also the reevaluation of the probable adversary.
              1. sasha.28blaga
                sasha.28blaga April 16 2014 10: 58
                +1
                it’s better to overdo it than overdo it.
            5. sir.jonn
              sir.jonn April 16 2014 08: 57
              +4
              Quote: aktanir
              And who would have allowed the old drying up to the ship at all if a war had been officially unleashed between Russia and the USA?

              Western media actively represent Russia as a rude and aggressive power capable of violating all Western foundations and international agreements. Therefore, even without declaring war, Western troops, who were the first victims of their own informational suggestion, react with fear of a real attack to the maneuvers of our armed forces.
              1. sergerz
                sergerz April 16 2014 09: 17
                +8
                In Soviet times, they know the desperate disposition of our sailors, this is about how our watchmen in bulk beat their cruiser with a destroyer. Well, they intersect with pilots for the first time, and understand that the pilots are no less desperate. 12 attacks, this is not weak. That's why diarrhea.
              2. lelikas
                lelikas April 16 2014 10: 37
                +2
                Quote: sir.jonn
                Therefore, even without declaring war, Western troops, who were the first victims of their own informational suggestion, react with fear of a real attack to the maneuvers of our armed forces.

                We do not yet know about the reaction of the servicemen, only from their "officials", besides, the Yankes probably declared an alarm for the same training purposes and worked out their air defense measures well - I don't think there was time to be particularly scared.
              3. sasha.28blaga
                sasha.28blaga April 16 2014 11: 01
                +1
                One of the Air Force commanders of America, said on TV that they did not show their pilots (by video) the flights of the Russian aviation, so as not to demoralize the spirit of American pilots.
            6. mirexes
              mirexes April 16 2014 10: 19
              +1
              in part it may be true, notice when they are fighting on ships their opponents do not dive because the opponents do not have airplanes, and who have planes they shoot them with tomahawks from a very long distance, I think that they don’t do their own thing (they don’t train) , so this was the first thing that happened to the Amerov sailors
            7. lelikas
              lelikas April 16 2014 10: 28
              0
              Quote: aktanir
              Early to celebrate just don't start.

              and rightly so, I would like to add pro -And now a luxurious trough - there are no analogues in our fleet and is not yet expected.
            8. Apostle
              Apostle April 16 2014 11: 44
              0
              ... Who would have fought in Afghanistan and Iraq if the Americans are so sensitive and weak-hearted? ..

              Well, certainly not the sailors from "Cook" ...
          3. Corsair
            Corsair April 16 2014 07: 32
            +6
            Quote: Stalevar
            And who will clean the ship from shit now? Romanians what?

            Well, who else? Ukraine is only being prepared for such missions so far ...
          4. Docent1984
            Docent1984 April 16 2014 07: 37
            +5
            No) Moldovans. They really want to be Romanians) Let them work out)
            1. Corsair
              Corsair April 16 2014 09: 15
              +2
              Quote: Docent1984
              No) Moldovans. They really want to be Romanians) Let them work out)

              It seems that UKRAINIANS really want to be Moldovans ... (see my comment above)
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          6. grog_bm
            grog_bm April 16 2014 08: 41
            0
            on this and went there)) leave humus for fertilizer
          7. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak April 16 2014 10: 12
            +2
            Quote: Stalevar
            And who will clean the ship from shit now?

            Their mournful labor will not be lost
            Romanians will come, pick up!
            Another thing is interesting. According to information from another place, the "fighter" SU-24, this is how they poured the plane, performed their actions at an altitude of 150 meters and at a distance of 1 km along the course from the ship. Practice your air defense missions calmly, and they put them in their pants. Ugh, panties.
          8. nnz226
            nnz226 April 16 2014 11: 56
            0
            Aha! Their role in all anti-Russian coalitions was to clean up the crap after the "yubermens" who were raking from Russia, and boiled down ...
          9. Aleksandr68
            Aleksandr68 April 16 2014 12: 03
            0
            Quote: Stalevar
            And who will clean the ship from shit now? Romanians what?

            And what else are such NATO allies capable of? Remember how they fought in World War II.
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 16 2014 07: 03
          +15
          Quote: Stalevar
          I did not understand, this is a warship or a pleasure yacht of Washington Kindergarten No. 142.

          And when they signed the contract, no one promised them that a Russian plane would fly over them.
          1. Stalevar
            Stalevar April 16 2014 07: 07
            0
            Well, I probably don’t see another reason))).
          2. GELEZNII_KAPUT
            GELEZNII_KAPUT April 16 2014 07: 13
            +6
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            And when they signed the contract, no one promised them that a Russian plane would fly over them.

            The creatures felt that this was not the coast of Somalia-Libya-Iraq and were not afraid of them here! wassat
        3. gfhjkm
          gfhjkm April 16 2014 11: 41
          0
          The EC from the BE-200 would have 12 tons of water on it, but on satellite slingshots of it, so that they would be remembered for a lifetime. laughing
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        5. V.V.P
          V.V.P 5 March 2015 23: 45
          0
          like children, I swear! when the American army or navy arrives somewhere, everyone else must hide in fear under the bench, it’s a pity that our pilots didn’t hear about this rule. These kids started playing war games and it’s time for our adult uncles to spank them and drive them home.
      2. Canep
        Canep April 16 2014 06: 51
        +9
        Quote: ded10041948
        How how? "Without putting your lives in danger"!

        Their army is not used to endangering their lives.

        PS At least one good news in the morning.
      3. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov April 16 2014 07: 02
        +16
        Quote: ded10041948
        How how? "Without putting your lives in danger"!

        This is when the enemy has no right to resist.
        The Russians are completely insolent, brave sailors of the most powerful fleet in the world, do not have time to remove their trousers from the brown mass and ventilate the ship’s premises from accumulated gases laughing
        1. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak April 16 2014 10: 18
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          ventilate ship spaces from accumulated gas

          Greetings, Sasha.
          There is one understatement in this matter. Very much these brave warriors, love to eat legumes, and legumes, one way or another, cause flatulence. They are already used to living among these gases. laughing
      4. yustas
        yustas April 16 2014 07: 18
        +7
        we must also tell them that Sosa-Sol freezes in Siberia, so they will be offended and will leave, not to mention the fact that the shower and toilet do not function at sub-zero temperatures =) those are still warriors
        1. mamba
          mamba April 16 2014 10: 26
          +2
          Quote: yustas
          shower and toilet in sub-zero temperatures do not function at all

          And an attempt to meet a small need in the cold leads to freezing of the urethra to the stream. And with the realization of great need in the cold, it is better to wait until spring. laughing
    2. Canep
      Canep April 16 2014 06: 49
      +9
      In Romania, diapers will rise in price. The warriors were frightened by the sight of one plane, and what will happen to them when Russia imitates a link of planes?
      It’s interesting, what will happen if you don’t release the old “dryer”, but the “carcass”?

      For good, they should not see it, strategists attack with missiles, and understand what happened to them only shines on a liferaft, those who are lucky.
    3. cergey51046
      cergey51046 April 16 2014 06: 57
      +6
      He did not go out on them, but only flew not far. Maybe he greeted them and took pictures for memory.
      1. Orc-xnumx
        Orc-xnumx April 16 2014 08: 55
        +1
        Imitation of an attack - it just came out!
      2. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak April 16 2014 10: 22
        +1
        Quote: cergey51046
        Maybe he greeted them and took pictures for memory.

        The funniest thing is that they also try to fly around our ships at meetings. Our guys do not seem to complain very much.
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    5. GELEZNII_KAPUT
      GELEZNII_KAPUT April 16 2014 07: 10
      +8
      Quote: Stalevar
      Well, I understand scary when such a fool comes to you. But to submit reports from the soldiers who took the oath is already too much))). And how are they going to fight?

      They are able not to fight, but to kill ... punishers, in a word!
    6. Metal
      Metal April 16 2014 07: 33
      +2
      Piss when scared! bully
    7. Very old
      Very old April 16 2014 07: 51
      0
      SASHA-Stalevar

      I ask you - say SMART, SMART
      1. kartalovkolya
        kartalovkolya April 16 2014 08: 39
        +2
        Well, the Yankees can’t sit at home, if combed, then patrol your Gulf of Mexico well, at worst let us patrol the Hudson River, and we will put things in order in our sea! Well, how much can you pollute the ecology of the Black Sea with all sorts of foreign trash? After all, it (the World Cup) has not yet fully coped with what the Nazis left at its bottom! And in general, have fun at home and there is nothing to poison and scare fish, there is little left in the Black Sea!
    8. major071
      major071 April 16 2014 08: 44
      +7
      Two days ago, I wrote and got to the point, as they say laughing
      major071 RU 14 April 2014 21: 22 | Russian fighter flew around destroyer Donald Cook
      If they from one unarmed aircraft put in their pants to the fullest, what will happen if the link flies? They are used to fighting at a distance when there is no one to reach them. And here, I'm sorry, move, this is not Somalia-Libya-Iraq, everything is serious here. I feel that the laundries on the ship work in full. And the smell of gov.ets behind the ship.

      That is the whole essence of the American "military", pipifax is over, Coca-Cola has not been delivered, there are no hamburgers - they will not fight. And then a terrible Russian plane flew by. Everyone, urgently go home to mom. hi
    9. Ural guys
      Ural guys April 16 2014 08: 53
      0
      They’re not going to either. Immediately captured.
      They think that they will feed them here.
    10. Ural guys
      Ural guys April 16 2014 08: 53
      0
      They’re not going to either. Immediately captured.
      They think that they will feed them here.
    11. sergerz
      sergerz April 16 2014 09: 11
      +1
      Su-24 is very noisy. Back in the 70s, I served next to the airfield on which the latest SU-24s were based. Passing by, ears are laying from the noise of engines. Therefore, the Americans were scared. And the noise in this plane is not the main weapon. So in vain they were afraid of this. It is necessary to be afraid of his weapons, which he has not yet used. And the noise of the weapon, when used, they may not hear.
    12. bvi1965
      bvi1965 April 16 2014 09: 15
      0
      It’s good that the Kingstons didn’t open it.
    13. Alexandr Volkov
      Alexandr Volkov April 16 2014 10: 00
      0
      Maybe a duck. Something is hard to believe ... Well this is a warship, with military on board ...
      But if this is not propaganda, then a disgrace.
      Where can I read the confirmation?
      1. Marine One
        Marine One April 16 2014 10: 28
        +2
        Quote: Alexandr Volkov
        Where can I read the confirmation?


        Nowhere. Warren's official statement regarding the Drying Pass, incl. translated into Russian from Russia Today is googled in 10 seconds. A story about insurance, resignations and the demoralizing effect was launched by the Novorossiya website, and frankly lying, citing a non-existent article by Reuters.
        And in general it is unclear with what fright completely ordinary events - the entry of a warship into the Black Sea and the flight of our scout over it, over the past few days have caused such verbal diarrhea.
        1. Shatt
          Shatt April 16 2014 12: 41
          0
          Not a scout, but a bomber
          1. Marine One
            Marine One April 16 2014 12: 44
            0
            They say the SU was in a reconnaissance modification. In any case, the bomber acted as a scout in this situation.
    14. Boatsman_Palych
      Boatsman_Palych April 16 2014 10: 03
      +9
      In 1982 and 1984 he took part in two cruises to the shores of Pin ... stan aboard a large radio intelligence ship "Crimea". And in Mediterranean, and in the Atlantic, and off the coast of the United States, we were constantly visited on low level flight by all and sundry. Not a single sailor did not hear a word of apprehension, only made fun of him. Although our ship was unarmed - only AKMs for self-defense.
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    16. INVESTOR
      INVESTOR April 16 2014 10: 08
      +2
      In theory, they could easily knock down our dryer from air defense systems, but they didn’t shoot them down ... they didn’t pass their nerves ... I doubt the enemy about the reports, they should not be underestimated. And our pilot is well done !!! The psychological effect will be unambiguous !!!!
      1. sub307
        sub307 April 16 2014 11: 31
        +2
        A flyby with a combat aircraft is a "normal" practice from the category of reliably established. Something was flying above us almost in non-stop mode (more often in this sequence after our departure from the base point - "Orion" Norwegian, "Nimrod" + "Sea Links" British, "Atlantic" Spanish + "Orion" USA, " si king "Italian, and" intruder "from" Nimitz "was also" interested "). After the flight, we had fun "catching" the acoustic buoys dropped by them, the cable there is of high quality, I still use it.
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    17. WKS
      WKS April 16 2014 11: 35
      0
      (information not confirmed. - Ed. "VO"). Pay attention to this footnote.
    18. cheega69
      cheega69 April 16 2014 11: 49
      0
      DUCK, QUICKLY EVERYTHING.
    19. Dezzed
      Dezzed April 16 2014 12: 09
      +2
      the author did not bother to check the sources, but I escaped.

      quote from the original article by Anton Chumakov, novorus.info news agency:

      | "27 members of the destroyer's crew submitted their resignation reports (information not confirmed. - Ed." VO "). Commenting on their actions, they said they did not intend to endanger their lives."

      as you see the source of the woman Klava.
    20. Ross
      Ross April 16 2014 12: 27
      0
      Pentagon spokesman Col. Stephen Warren told Reuters that a Russian bomber had flown twelve times at a low altitude not far from an American destroyer. Warren called such maneuvers frightening and unacceptable. They demoralize the personnel of the ship and adversely affect the overall psychological climate among the military.

      Remember how your NATO aircraft flew around our ships during the Soviet era. Debt good turn deserves another.
    21. Drzog
      Drzog April 16 2014 15: 14
      +5
      Dear VO community! Today, surfing the Internet, I came across this interesting comment:

      "This ship is armed with two 6-barreled Falanx launchers and up to 74 RIM-66 SM-2 Standard-2 missiles. In other words, the specialization of this ship is not only a fight against such low-speed, low-maneuverable targets, like the SU-24, but also with targets is much more difficult - with anti-ship missiles, which both have a higher speed of movement and their maneuverability is not limited by overloads in the crew and in stealth they are many times superior to the SU-24. - sit for yourself, turn on the air defense, "Aegis", but practice in close to real conditions, repelling the attack of the aircraft of a potential enemy! But no, the crew was demoralized, 27 people wrote statements with the wording - "They are not going to risk their lives." happened in neutral waters? I believe the answer lies behind such a mysterious name as “Khibiny.” According to Wikipedia, the Khibiny is a mountain range on the Kola Peninsula, in the Murmansk region, located 150 km north its Arctic Circle :) However, of course, the destroyer crew was intimidated by the wrong Khibiny. "Khibiny" is the newest Russian electronic warfare system, which will be installed on all promising Russian aircraft. I did not find any data about it, no matter how much I looked, but here it is written that the SU-24 has already been used in exercises in Buryatia. So, nothing can demoralize a military man like his own impotence! In light of the above, I see the situation as follows. On April 10, 2014, the above-mentioned destroyer arrived in the neutral waters of the Black Sea to carry out an intimidation and demonstration of force - in connection with Russia's adamant stance on Ukraine and Crimea. Before that, another American missile destroyer Trakstan was in the Black Sea, in violation of the Montreux convention. That is, there was a typical, beloved by Americans, mouse fuss - saber rattling and international rudeness. The reaction of Russia was calm, but deadly: on April 12, on the great day of cosmonautics, ours equipped an unarmed SU-24 for overflight in neutral waters, BUT with the Khibiny under the wing. Then everything developed approximately according to the following scenario: "Cook" noticed the approach of "drying" from a distance, played a combat alert and froze at the combat posts. Everything went smoothly, the radars calculated the course of approach to the target, the Aegis regularly controlled the guidance systems. And suddenly - bang! Everything went out. The Aegis does not work, the screens show dregs, even the Phalanxes cannot receive target designation! SU-24, meanwhile, passed over the Cook's deck, made a combat turn and simulated a missile attack on the target. Successful, of course - there is no opposition! Then he turned around and imitated another one. And so on - 10 more times! All attempts of technicians to revive Aegis and give target designation for air defense failed, and only when the silhouette of the “drying” melted in a haze over the Russian coast, the screens came to life, and the guidance systems faithfully showed the clear, shining empty April sky.

      Let me summarize. Most likely, after the SU-24 switched on in the immediate vicinity of the "Cook", "Khibiny", the entire air defense of the destroyer went out of order. Ours, while checking the efficiency of the electronic warfare system, simulated an attack on an American ship 12 (!) Times. During all this time, the ship's crew could not reanimate the extinguished CIUS. She earned it only when the SU-24 headed for the base. It was then that, realizing their own powerlessness against the electronic warfare complex of an ordinary bomber, 27 people and filed a resignation report. "

      I ask you to express your opinion. Waiting for an answer, like a fool advice =)
      1. esmiralda
        esmiralda April 17 2014 21: 58
        0
        KRET enterprises are constantly working on new
        electronic warfare systems. 12 aircraft and ground are under development
        systems. In particular, by order of the Ministry of Defense
        design work to create a unique complex
        "Khibiny-U".
        The new complex will surpass all types of electronic warfare
        air-based, now in service. Them
        It is planned to equip front-line aircraft of the Air Force. During
        development work the complex will be placed on
        multifunctional fighter Su-30SM.

        http://nevskii-bastion.ru/khibiny/
    22. Ross
      Ross April 16 2014 17: 17
      0
      The following version of this event appeared:
      I summarize. Most likely, after the SU-24 turned on in the immediate vicinity of the Cook, the Khibiny, the entire destroyer air defense failed. The Russians, checking the effectiveness of the electronic warfare system, 12 (!) Times simulated an attack on an American ship. For all this time, the crew of the ship was unable to reanimate the extinguished BIOS. She earned only when the SU-24 went heading for the base. It was then that, realizing their own powerlessness against the EW complex of an ordinary bomber, 27 people submitted reports on leaving.

      http://pvo39.ru/GAZETA/Statyi_glavnaya/Hibini_vs_Idzhisa.html
      1. Drzog
        Drzog April 16 2014 20: 23
        0
        I wonder how realistic this opinion is) is this possible in principle? Really in electronics we were able to surpass the most modern military developments of the USA and so easily were able to suppress them!
        1. WatchDog
          WatchDog April 21 2014 18: 45
          0
          You may be surprised, but about "can you really surpass" I will say this, you shouldn't underestimate our electronics engineers and programmers. Personally, in the 80s, I worked at a plant that produced onboard computers. This model was already in production for a little less than ten years, and was considered obsolete (but secret). One of its functions was "look and forget". That is, he looked in the direction of the target and pressed the button. The rest will be done by the onboard VC. For me it was a matter of course for all technically developed countries. And imagine my surprise when, at the beginning of the XNUMXs, such a system was presented as the latest achievement of the states in the field of military aviation :)
    23. petrT
      petrT April 16 2014 18: 12
      0
      And if not the Su-24 flies, and which is heavier and faster, will they start jumping overboard and wave with white shirts?
  2. sanek0207
    sanek0207 April 16 2014 06: 37
    +6
    What liquid are these Americans? They saw the plane and began to obsserat the deck of the ship, give them a psychologist, a nanny with my mother !! And what would happen if Sushka launched a real attack? Therefore, so that they do not nudge ships, you need to shoot at them with what is invisible, it’s a pity for the equipment, very!
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 April 16 2014 06: 51
      +12
      This is Russia, son! So take your rattles, and for quiet sadness, to the house. And then suddenly our strategists really want to look at your bucket with bolts from the height of a bird’s plane!
      1. Ptah
        Ptah April 16 2014 07: 11
        +10
        Greetings, Alex!
        What the guy has on my head is mine.
        And also at my KOTE. Only he uses it differently ... belay
        Well, cattle ..... what to take from him .... laughing
  3. ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 April 16 2014 06: 39
    +15
    And our choice is sometimes too small
    But remember the guy that he didn’t betray his family,
    And take a step forward so that he becomes a legend.
  4. spech
    spech April 16 2014 06: 42
    +5
    The crew members undergo the necessary procedures with a psychologist to recover from the stress.

    the ship also replenishes diapers am
    1. Ptah
      Ptah April 16 2014 07: 02
      +4
      Quote: spech
      ship replenishes diapers

      This is mandatory on ALL SHIPS IN THE WORLD. As well as flyers on a mission.
      In addition to their "main" purpose, diapers can be used as a dressing material.
      In a combat situation, there is certainly an application.
  5. Denis
    Denis April 16 2014 06: 42
    0
    they said they did not intend to endanger life

    And do these tsykuns want to rule the whole world?
    1. Ptah
      Ptah April 16 2014 06: 58
      +3
      Quote: Denis
      these tsykuns want

      Not these ... "These" are the SEAMLESS. Although slightly blued and refined, they are sailors. The world ALREADY RULED others. With the help of these. If there were no first, then the second would not be required. On military ships ...
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  7. dobrik10
    dobrik10 April 16 2014 06: 46
    +8
    They wrote about, got rid of in full ...
    I don’t want to take risks for candy wrappers, but they don’t know how to take homeland
    1. Very old
      Very old April 16 2014 08: 14
      +1
      Country of immigrants
      That's where the homeland is - Zimbabwe and Swaziland. Harlem ...
  8. Barakuda
    Barakuda April 16 2014 06: 48
    +7
    Imagine if the Tu-22 dived unobtrusively. The day of delivery of humanitarian diapers would be announced in the states.
  9. kostyan77708
    kostyan77708 April 16 2014 06: 49
    +6
    the most powerful army in the world, you can still say kule laughing
  10. Berimor 2
    Berimor 2 April 16 2014 06: 49
    +3
    27 people filed reports. And this despite the fact that, according to the acknowledgment of the American sailors themselves, the plane did not approach them at a distance of less than 1 kilometer. It is terrible to imagine what would happen if he passed over the ship itself!
    1. andrey777
      andrey777 April 16 2014 07: 00
      +3
      Quote: Berimor 2
      27 people filed reports. And this despite the fact that, according to the acknowledgment of the American sailors themselves, the plane did not approach them at a distance of less than 1 kilometer. It is terrible to imagine what would happen if he passed over the ship itself!

      Not very pleasant for some time the Black Sea smacked. laughing
      1. Docent1984
        Docent1984 April 16 2014 07: 40
        +1
        We hope that they have a bio-toilet there, and not a point with a direct release into the sea. We still have rest this summer)))
        1. Ptah
          Ptah April 16 2014 07: 52
          0
          Quote: Docent1984
          We hope they have a biosort there

          Hope in vain ... There is no toilet there - there is a GALYUN. There are some pictures for comparison ...
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          2

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          1. Ural guys
            Ural guys April 16 2014 08: 56
            +2
            Well .... well, they are!
            You can see immediately the guardhouse there is not carried!
            1. Ptah
              Ptah April 16 2014 14: 11
              0
              And what, somewhere guardhouse carry in the clean and jerk? belay Original and informative ...

              Here they are ...
              Why ... After all, this is the C-189 of the 613 project, which stands in St. Petersburg, as a museum .... Pichal ... sad
              Not what is worth, but what is in this state.
          2. Ural guys
            Ural guys April 16 2014 08: 56
            0
            Well, and they!
            You can see immediately the guardhouse there is not carried!
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    3. alexng
      alexng April 16 2014 08: 03
      +3
      Quote: Berimor 2
      27 people filed a report.


      Already there were no combat losses. And in the event of a real turmoil with Russia, they will definitely surpass the Georgian army in "back-marathon". crying
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      2. alexng
        alexng April 16 2014 08: 22
        +2
        ABOUT! One American sirun was already cowardly minusanul. laughing
    4. Orc-xnumx
      Orc-xnumx April 16 2014 09: 04
      0
      Then they would have the right to shoot down. It's all nerves! Everything is not thin! That crap ... Now in Romania, the pants are dried.
    5. Altona
      Altona April 16 2014 09: 18
      0
      Quote: Berimor 2
      It is terrible to imagine what would happen if he passed over the ship itself!

      --------------------------
      Maneuvers of combat aircraft over the deck of a warship are secretly prohibited, as a particularly provocative provocation ...
      1. Boatsman_Palych
        Boatsman_Palych April 16 2014 10: 19
        +2
        Prohibited "flights in the dangerous proximity of the ship" OFFICIALLY treaty of 1972. The pins ... they didn't really respect them, especially after the downing of a Korean Boeing in September 1983. They imitated attacks on us all the time. the helicopters were hovering about 10 meters away - he even suggested that they jump onto the deck. They answered with obscene gestures "in Russian" repeat
  11. cergey51046
    cergey51046 April 16 2014 06: 51
    +2
    Colonel Stephen Warren, a Russian bomber, flew twelve times at low altitude not far from an American destroyer. Warren called such maneuvers intimidating and unacceptable. They demoralize the personnel of the ship and negatively affect the overall psychological climate among the military.
    Only flew not far, but already a victory.
    1. kartalovkolya
      kartalovkolya April 16 2014 08: 49
      +5
      Ay-ay-ay, and this "bastard" forgot how their planes flew almost over the masts of our cargo ships during the Cuban Missile Crisis? And that characteristically none of our sailors even ducked their heads, by the way, all latrines after the voyage shone with naval cleanliness .Eh wretched, on whom you "lift" your leg, "a fence under tension"! Look, and you will not understand not only legs, but also what is between them! "Bezayatsovye" disabled mental workers!
  12. Yarik
    Yarik April 16 2014 06: 51
    0
    Ah ha ha !!! Three times. laughing
  13. Cosmos1987
    Cosmos1987 April 16 2014 06: 52
    +4
    do it and die with an American soldier, that they don’t want to do anything, so that they wouldn’t die later, they can only fight against papus, against those who go with arrows and shoot at them, then they are heroes. Soviet (Russian, Kazakh, Belorussian) soldiers will die, but even execute the order dead. it is interesting to read about the 13th company of the 226th Zemlyansky regiment of the Russian Empire
  14. Ptah
    Ptah April 16 2014 06: 52
    +6
    simulated attack Su-24 to the US Navy destroyer

    Very controversial infa from various sources, how it all happened in reality.
    Flyers, correct if I'm mistaken. But, according to unwritten laws (??) ATTACK IDENTIFICATIONAnd is the exit of the plane to COMBAT COURSE... Or on the bow (stern), or "to the side".
    And this was not in principle. All sources point precisely to the DESCRIBED CIRCLES, and in the distance. So why did overseas sailors stare so?
    Yes, and the modification of the aircraft, apparently, was used Sioux 24MR (product T6MP) tactical reconnaissance aircraft
    designed to conduct comprehensive all-weather reconnaissance day or night at a depth of up to 400 km beyond the line of contact between the troops.)
    Unlike the basic machine - the Su-24M front-line bomber, the scout does not have offensive weapons. For defense on the external sling under the left plane, two P-60 missiles can be suspended.
    The reconnaissance equipment of the aircraft is represented by the BKR-1 airborne reconnaissance complex, consisting of:
    The “Bayonet” side-view radar provides viewing of an area of ​​24 km wide on each side of the course line, with an unseeable 8 zone of meters directly below the aircraft. The radar resolution is 5-7,5 m.
    Panoramic aerial camera AP-402M
    Advanced A-100 Aerial Camera
    IR Intelligence Equipment
    The “Ether-1M” radiation detection container and the Shpil-2M laser equipment container are located on the external sling. Received reconnaissance information can be processed directly on board the aircraft in flight. Information is transmitted to the earth through closed communication channels, photo information can be dumped in special containers.

    / From Wikipedia /
    1. Flinky
      Flinky April 16 2014 07: 05
      0
      Pedivikia is still that source.
      In any case, the desired effect is achieved. Yankees put on pants.
    2. Altona
      Altona April 16 2014 09: 50
      +1
      Quote: Ptah
      Yes, and the modification of the aircraft, apparently, was used by the Su-24MP (product T6MP) tactical reconnaissance aircraft
      designed to conduct comprehensive all-weather reconnaissance day or night at a depth of up to 400 km beyond the line of contact between the troops.)

      -----------------------------
      In any case, the American sailors had something to fear. Firstly, this trough is not intended for acting alone, and secondly, Aegis just doesn’t work as it should, thirdly, she sensed their priest that they are already targeting the coastal missile batteries of the Russian Black Sea Fleet, -fifth, by agreement of Montreux, any ship outside the Black Sea fleets, delayed in time, can be destroyed without declaring war ... Something like this, I suppose ... Well, it's really scary when the attack aircraft cuts circles around you, according to the charter, they must shoot down all flying combat crap immediately upon detection, without approaching critical distances, and move the whole crowd ... sorry, squadron ...))
    3. Sma11
      Sma11 April 16 2014 10: 16
      0
      Flyers, correct if I'm mistaken about anything. But, according to the unwritten laws (??), the DESIGNATION OF THE ATTACK is the exit of the aircraft to the BATTLE COURSE. Or along the bow (stern), or "to the side".
      And this was not in principle. All sources point precisely to the DESCRIBED CIRCLES, and in the distance. So why did overseas sailors stare so?
      Yes, and the modification of the aircraft, apparently, was used by the Su-24MP (product T6MP) tactical reconnaissance aircraft
      designed to conduct comprehensive all-weather reconnaissance day or night at a depth of up to 400 km beyond the line of contact between the troops.)

      Did the sailors KNOW this? After all, Crazy Rashen is flying.
  15. pticas
    pticas April 16 2014 06: 52
    +10
    I recall the reaction of our guys with similar overflights in Middle-earth (with visits from provocative courses) .....
    If only they would allow ... He would fly off to ... mom.
    And here - psychologists, reports ...
    I am proud of my colleagues !!!!
    1. Filon
      Filon April 16 2014 08: 39
      +10
      Quote: pticas
      I remember the reaction of our guys ...

      Father told me from personal experience:

      He worked in the Northern Sea Shipping Company, as a ship electrician on dry-cargo vessels of the "P" series, namely, at the "Petrokrepost". Well, it happened to them to go to Cuba. In short, when the next episode of the series "about the sea" was being played over the landscape, an American plane appeared, which began to circle and maneuver around the Soviet dry cargo ship. The fleet was a merchant, there were no weapons on board, but the Russian spirit was present in the crew: when the pilot went to the next turn to pass near the ship again, someone from the crew jumped to the fire hydrant and imitated "targeting" ... sniffed, the captain had a little fight, and the crew whinnied for a long time laughing
  16. Lara
    Lara April 16 2014 06: 53
    +1
    And I remember the film 72 meters-remember where they caught the buoy? What did the Janissaries tell them?
    And Basharov's hero completes the plot - "... and then there would be one superpower ... But definitely not America!"
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 April 16 2014 07: 01
      +9
      Quote: Lara
      And I remember the film 72 meters-remember where they caught the buoy? What did the Janissaries tell them?
  17. Humpty
    Humpty April 16 2014 06: 53
    +5
    Laughter laughs, but nerds with such a psyche are dangerous .Never when you do not know for sure that the faint of heart will soak.
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 April 16 2014 06: 57
      +13
      Russian Su-27 fighters abused the American aircraft carrier Kitty Hawk 9-01-2014,

      Source: http://politikus.ru/events/10711-rossiyskie-istrebiteli-su-27-nadrugalis-nad-ame

      rikanskim-avianoscem-kiti-hok.html
      Politikus.ru
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov April 16 2014 07: 06
        +4
        Quote: Alex 241
        Russian Su-27 fighters abused the American aircraft carrier Kitty Hawk 9-01-2014,

        Abused -Is raped or something laughing
        Hi Sanya.
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 April 16 2014 07: 16
          +1
          Hi Sash, read the link. laughing
        2. andj61
          andj61 April 16 2014 08: 08
          +3
          On the contrary, they abandoned the process.
      2. Ural guys
        Ural guys April 16 2014 09: 11
        0
        These are photos from 2000, but where are the new ones?
      3. Ural guys
        Ural guys April 16 2014 09: 11
        0
        These are photos from 2000, but where are the new ones?
      4. ipshum
        ipshum April 16 2014 09: 26
        +1
        Landing Tu-95 on an American aircraft carrier

        Source: http://politikus.ru/articles/10694-posadka-tu-95-na-amerikanskiy-avianosec.html
        Politikus.ru
        Another mockery of the Americans.
    2. GELEZNII_KAPUT
      GELEZNII_KAPUT April 16 2014 08: 28
      +1
      Quote: Humpty
      Laughter laughs, but nerds with such a psyche are dangerous .Never when you do not know for sure that the faint of heart will soak.

      And assuming that rulers are like their own people, well, or vice versa! In the process of detection, they can click on the red button, and then the whole world is in ruin! hi
  18. Yarik
    Yarik April 16 2014 06: 54
    +1
    ded10041948 (1) Today, 06:47 ↑ New
    How how? "Without putting your lives in danger"!

    I also don’t care. How can I serve in the army, without endangering my life? Apparently, an institution like the Committee of Soldiers' Mothers with Amers has long started.
  19. Lyton
    Lyton April 16 2014 06: 56
    +4
    I’m also somehow in touch, they haven’t even shot yet, and the sailors are already scared, and if there is a real war, it’s clear that they won’t have time to blink, but the ship’s rocket protects them, but there’s a duty and an oath, in World War II the Pacific Ocean is not bad fought.
    1. Grenz
      Grenz April 16 2014 07: 33
      +2
      They fought just not really ...
      At one time, revealing the victories of our fleet in the Black Sea, Admiral Fyodor Ushakov said: "The Turkish guns do not have Russian sailors !!!"
      Indeed, if, with that power in ships and aircraft, we could add the Russian spirit, I don’t think that the Japs would resist for a long time (in 1945 all of China was liberated in a month).
      An example is the "Battle of Gaudalkanal".
      When landing on one of the islands, the Americans lost 143 (not exactly, but about) the Marine.
      The attack was canceled. The commander was dismissed.
      Then, over the course of several days, the island was treated from the air and only one sailor died during the landing - it was crushed by a ramp ramp.
      The Japanese did not show resistance, because even in the living from the blast waves the meat departed from the bones of the skeleton.
      That's the price of victory.
      Of course, the conclusion. If some of our commanders also took care of their soldiers, then the Tiergarten in Berlin would have less marble slabs.
      They would have mixed Berlin with the earth - probably Merkel, knowing the prospect, wouldn’t have grinded her teeth like that. And now there would be no polls - to remove tanks from the pedestal or not.
      1. Baloo_bst
        Baloo_bst April 16 2014 08: 50
        +4
        There are more fun landings in the US Army.
        In 1943, when landing on the island of Kyska, the Americans lost more than 300 people killed. One destroyer was blown up by a mine, etc.
        And the most interesting thing is that at that time there was not a single Japanese on the island. The casualties were mostly from friendly fire. It was all called Operation Cottage.
    2. zao74
      zao74 April 16 2014 09: 35
      +4
      Well, something like this.
      1. crambol
        crambol April 16 2014 10: 50
        +1
        Great, Alex! Half a hundred eyes to you!
  20. Sergey7311
    Sergey7311 April 16 2014 06: 57
    +6
    Information is not confirmed (see commentary IN), so do not underestimate a potential enemy in advance. I do not think that the US Navy is recruiting cowardly recruits capable of being frightened of the fighter’s maneuvers. This is still the Navy, which defeated the Japanese fleet in the Pacific War. And the Japanese were great warriors. Less emotions and more verified facts, dear ...
    1. Flinky
      Flinky April 16 2014 07: 07
      +5
      Americans never seriously fought. And to refer to the events of 70 years ago - well, I'm sorry ...
    2. Averias
      Averias April 16 2014 07: 28
      +3
      Quote: Sergey7311
      Information is not confirmed (see commentary IN), so do not underestimate a potential enemy in advance. I do not think that the US Navy is recruiting cowardly recruits capable of being frightened of the fighter’s maneuvers.

      It is clear that the information is "raw". And who will officially confirm this? But, there are a lot of such cases, here are a couple:
      1. Times of the USSR. The maneuvers and exercises of the US Navy, in the midst of exercises near the aircraft carrier, our submarine pops up and asks directly to help our sailor (or something similar). Admiral of the Americans hysterically calls the Pentagon, those in response - Are you crazy? What is the Russian submarine ???? How not to notice? How is this even possible? Generally stole, and then the admiral was removed.
      2. An example is not long ago, as soon as our ships were designated off the coast of Syria. The AUG of the USA rather quickly faded from there.
      3. The same not long ago, though I don't remember exactly where. When our planes made a call to their aircraft carrier (simulated attack) with a photograph of it. If the first case is still so, on the verge of rumors (although I heard from "seasoned" sailors). The rest have real confirmation.
      1. HAM
        HAM April 16 2014 08: 05
        +3
        And do you remember the patrolmen who drove the more serious ships off the coast of Crimea "in bulk"? There is even a video ...
    3. valerei
      valerei April 16 2014 10: 11
      -1
      Quote: Sergey7311
      Information is not confirmed (see commentary IN), so do not underestimate a potential enemy in advance. I do not think that the US Navy is recruiting cowardly recruits capable of being frightened of the fighter’s maneuvers. This is still the Navy, which defeated the Japanese fleet in the Pacific War. And the Japanese were great warriors. Less emotions and more verified facts, dear ...

      Finally, at least one normal comment, but then, there are a lot of bloggers who boast, "go to the army." The American contract, it seems to me, disciplines well enough and hardly provides for the right of a soldier to "pull off" at any moment.
      1. Boatsman_Palych
        Boatsman_Palych April 16 2014 10: 53
        +1
        It seems so to you. Google about the number of deserters during the Iraqi company.
    4. Boatsman_Palych
      Boatsman_Palych April 16 2014 10: 38
      +1
      Then the real Americans fought, on appeal, motivated by patriotism, and not the outcasts motivated by the green card and dough.
  21. mamont5
    mamont5 April 16 2014 06: 59
    +4
    "According to international maritime treaties, American ships cannot stay in the Black Sea for more than 14 days. Exceeding this period gives Russia the legal right to launch a missile attack and destroy these ships without declaring war on the United States."

    What a good contract. Tremble the Americans. Train your psychologists. They will have a lot of work.
  22. JoylyRoger
    JoylyRoger April 16 2014 07: 00
    +3
    The pilot must be awarded, as well as the one who gave the order for such training drinks
    But the Indians rotted through and through, sailors, ...
  23. kind
    kind April 16 2014 07: 00
    +2
    Warren called such maneuvers intimidating and unacceptable. They demoralize the personnel of the ship and negatively affect the overall psychological climate among the military.

    An unpleasant surprise, but they thought that they were waiting here?
    The crew members undergo the necessary procedures with a psychologist to recover from the stress.

    Is the crew exactly military?
    And where then is the latest Aegis air defense system?

    Aegis is effective at sharing several ships, and even then not very, and on a single ship it is inefficient.
  24. Soviet_Union
    Soviet_Union April 16 2014 07: 01
    +6
    Peaceful American destroyer, and you are his Dryer. You are angry. wassat
    1. Raven1972
      Raven1972 April 16 2014 09: 31
      0
      Quote: Soviet_Union
      Peaceful American destroyer, and you are his Dryer. You are angry.

      Not))))) At the same time, we are still good, if we were evil - we could also welcome a rocket on board soldier laughing
  25. avia12005
    avia12005 April 16 2014 07: 03
    +1
    Guys, that's why they are against the Russians. They have incited the Russians !!! We must quickly take our Ukraine!
    1. zao74
      zao74 April 16 2014 09: 41
      0
      Oh, at least it dawned on someone. Only Russians can defeat the Russians! Do not give pin.dos.am a chance to embroil us !!!
    2. valerei
      valerei April 16 2014 10: 16
      0
      Quote: avia12005
      Guys, that's why they are against the Russians. They have incited the Russians !!! We must quickly take our Ukraine!

      Take it - take it, but how then to carry it away? The gut is thin in our budget. A wave of a saber - a lot of brains are not necessary.
  26. Quantum
    Quantum April 16 2014 07: 06
    +4
    Somehow, in the Norwegian Sea, on a fishing vessel, near Bear Island, NATO planes were also close and made combat calls at low altitude.
    We, of course, were all on deck, laughing and showing fists and other
    fak-yu. And no one was afraid, of course. One sailor even took off his pants and showed
    his mighty p ... u.
    1. Ptah
      Ptah April 16 2014 07: 23
      -1
      Quote: Quantum
      One sailor even took off his pants and showed
      its mighty p ... u.

      What did the sailor show? P ... do? And really powerful? And where did he get it. In the cockpit hung ...
      1. kartalovkolya
        kartalovkolya April 16 2014 09: 04
        +1
        In vain you are so, he just out of politeness did not call the ASS by his name, but wrote n ... y! I had to serve in Ukraine in the city of Uzin, and so in the newspapers they wrote about the sea trials of the US Navy aircraft carrier "CHESTER W. NIMITZ". And the next day, checking the order in the fighters' nightstands, I found gorgeous photos of him from all angles (for the demobilization album), I will add that it was in the construction battalion (we were reconstructing the airfield of the "strategists"), and then what can we say about the division's combat regiments!
  27. Kazakh
    Kazakh April 16 2014 07: 07
    +5
    Training flight really destroy 27 people laughing If the truth is truly worthy of encouragement.
    1. Barakuda
      Barakuda April 16 2014 07: 21
      +3
      The reward pilot is allowed to perform another flight.!
  28. Barakuda
    Barakuda April 16 2014 07: 09
    +3
    Quote: Lyton
    in World War II they were not bad at war in the Pacific.

    With overwhelming superiority, even from the Japs they raked.
  29. koksalek
    koksalek April 16 2014 07: 10
    +1
    The American destroyer urgently replenished the stock of toilet paper)))
  30. razv35
    razv35 April 16 2014 07: 10
    +3
    Some kind of nonsense ... It's their job to fight. They are paid money for this. What is the help of a psychologist ??

    Although I really hope that this is not from the field of inform war ..)))
  31. Grenz
    Grenz April 16 2014 07: 13
    +3
    "... the ship's crew members undergo the necessary procedures with a psychologist to recover from the stress they endured."

    He previously claimed that in the course of such an imitation of the attack, the Americans filled the air with screams and farting so that, apparently, all the Romanian sailors in the raid stopped their noses from the stench.
    And if you came to Odessa. Poor Duke would have fallen off the pedestal.
    There wasn’t such a thing yet - the ... soldiers are demonstrating their support for the same regime.
    The last destroyer, stranded, is also apparently obroz .... at the sight of a re-scoping of our boat.
    Russians are coming!!!
    Apparently for them there is no "nicer" this appeal, if in due time after this phrase the former US Secretary of Defense jumped from the 14th floor.
    To the glory of the warriors. Only they can spoil liquidly and vilely.
    And not Colt now they have the main weapon, but a drone.
  32. Rusin Dima
    Rusin Dima April 16 2014 07: 16
    +4
    bold americans driving drones flying in pakistan
    1. kartalovkolya
      kartalovkolya April 16 2014 09: 11
      +2
      But in the Crimea they were weaned from flying (the US intelligence team is based in Kirovograd), three of their drones landed, here you are not here, as one foreman said. Do not confuse Russia with Mumbo Yumba (your president’s historical homeland), we don’t have bananas grow, but there are a lot of things that you won’t like very much!
      1. Raven1972
        Raven1972 April 16 2014 09: 43
        +1
        Quote: kartalovkolya
        we don’t grow bananas, but there are a lot of things that you won’t like very much!

        That's for sure, dumb bananas)))) But Poplars grow very well, and Buki, as well as Peonies, Chrysanthemums and Acacia with Tulips ... And we also really like to arrange Balls in Crimea)))))))) soldier drinks good laughing
  33. Floock
    Floock April 16 2014 07: 19
    +5
    The warriors, crap one’s liquid, pissed .... Infa is not verified, and IMHO is false.
    Please, do not bump into such "urapatriotism" and shapkozakidatelstvo. Let's then take the USA with two airborne brigades! Remember? so someone spoke about Chechnya))
    It is very dangerous to underestimate the enemy.
    1. annodomene
      annodomene April 16 2014 07: 28
      +4
      I agree. It is necessary to carefully and pedantically check all the info. Although there is a large share of truth in it.
    2. Ural guys
      Ural guys April 16 2014 09: 16
      0
      If such a task is set, then it will certainly be completed!
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  34. Nitarius
    Nitarius April 16 2014 07: 21
    +25
    Quote: Floock
    The warriors, crap one’s liquid, pissed .... Infa is not verified, and IMHO is false.

    the essence is different! what have they experienced!

    Khibiny vs. Aegis, or what scared the Pentagon so much?


    So what happened in neutral waters? I suppose the answer lies behind such a mysterious name as "Khibiny". According to Wikipedia, the Khibiny is a mountain range on the Kola Peninsula, in the Murmansk region, located 150 km north of the Arctic Circle :) However, of course, the destroyer crew was intimidated by the wrong Khibiny. "Khibiny" is the newest Russian electronic warfare system, which will be installed on all promising Russian aircraft. I did not find any data about it, no matter how much I looked, but here it is written that the SU-24 has already been used in exercises in Buryatia. So, nothing can demoralize a military man like his own impotence! In light of the above, I see the situation as follows. On April 10, 2014, the above-mentioned destroyer arrived in the neutral waters of the Black Sea to carry out an intimidation and demonstration of force - in connection with Russia's adamant stance on Ukraine and Crimea. Before that, another American missile destroyer Trakstan was in the Black Sea, in violation of the Montreux convention. That is, there was a typical, beloved by Americans, mouse fuss - saber rattling and international rudeness. The reaction of Russia was calm, but deadly: on April 12, the great day of cosmonautics, we equipped an unarmed SU-24 for overflight in neutral waters, BUT with the Khibiny under the wing. Then everything developed approximately according to the following scenario: "Cook" noticed the approach of "drying" from a distance, played a combat alert and froze at combat posts. Everything went on as usual, the radars calculated the course of approach to the target, the Aegis regularly controlled the guidance systems. And suddenly - bang! Everything went out. "Aegis" does not work, screens show dregs, even "Phalanxes" cannot receive target designation! SU-24, meanwhile, passed over the Cook's deck, made a combat turn and simulated a missile attack on the target. Successful, of course - there is no opposition! Then he turned around and imitated another one. And so on - 10 more times! All attempts of technicians to revive Aegis and give target designation for air defense failed, and only when the silhouette of the “drying” melted in a haze over the Russian coast, the screens came to life, and the guidance systems faithfully showed the clear, shining empty April sky.
    I summarize. Most likely, after the SU-24 turned on in the immediate vicinity of the Cook, the Khibiny, the entire destroyer air defense failed. Ours, checking the effectiveness of the electronic warfare system, 12 (!) Times simulated an attack on an American ship. For all this time, the crew of the ship was unable to reanimate the extinguished BIOS. She earned only when the SU-24 went heading for the base. It was then that, realizing their own powerlessness against the EW complex of an ordinary bomber, 27 people submitted reports on leaving.
    At the end of the article, I want to note that all of the above is just my logical construction and they are designed to bring at least some logic into what happened. If moderators find the post inappropriate, delete :)
    Sincerely.
    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich April 16 2014 07: 49
      +3
      Now, if this were confirmed ...
    2. kartalovkolya
      kartalovkolya April 16 2014 09: 17
      +2
      If so, even better than we thought! Apparently it was not for nothing that one of my acquaintances expressed the degree of discontent or delight with the following tirade: "Your mother is apatite to the Khibiny" - well, what to take from a Soviet ensign!
  35. Sasha_Bykov
    Sasha_Bykov April 16 2014 07: 22
    +7
    “... Sailing was quite easy and interesting: 54 days at sea, 4 in the port and 45 flight hours in October alone! (for comparison, many pilots of the Russian Air Force have an annual raid of about 45-60 hours with the necessary 200-250) Yes, we flew our asses! Since I became one of the squadron commanders, I have been flying a lot. Here is an interesting story (and this is not bullshit).

    So, I’m sitting there and chatting about all kinds of garbage with my deputy, and we hear a bell ringing from the BIC (the combat information center - the "brain" of the ship) .- They say: "Sir, we spotted Russian planes."

    The captain replies: "Announce the alarm, raise the fighters." From the center they say: only “Alarm-30” can be declared (departure in 30 minutes (!) From the moment of announcement). The captain swore and said: "Take into the air all that is possible, as quickly as possible!". I ran to the navigator's telephone and contacted the squadron duty officer. Our squadron was not on duty that day, so I told him to find out who was on duty and have them raise their asses and race to the flight deck (only Alarm-7 suggests that you are already on the take-off deck and ready to go up into the air: “Alarm-30” means that you are still sitting in the waiting room).

    Soon, the Russian Su-27 and Su-24 at a speed of 500 knots passed directly above the Kitty Hawk bridge. Just like in the movie "Top Gun"! Officers on the bridge spilled their coffee and said ...! (An obscene expression, which has a very emotional Russian counterpart.) At that moment I looked at the captain - his face was crimson.

    The Russian fighters made two more steep turns at low altitude before we finally launched our first plane from the deck. It was ... ЕА-6В "Prauler" (electronic warfare aircraft). Yes, yes, we launched the unfortunate "Prawler" one on one against the fighter right above the ship. Our pilots already asked for help when finally the F / A-18 from the "sister" squadron (I use this term literally, because they looked like a company of "easy-going women" (the phrase in quotation marks has been replaced by a more decent administration note), flirting with the Russians) took off in the air to perform an interception. But it was too late. The whole team lifted their heads and watched the Russians make a mockery of our wretched attempt to stop them.

    The funny thing is that the admiral and the commander of the aircraft carrier were in the command room at the morning meeting, which was interrupted by the rumble of turbines of Russian aircraft circling the aircraft carrier’s cabin. An officer in the headquarters of the commander told me that they looked at each other, at the flight plan, were convinced that the launch was planned for that day only a few hours later, and asked: “What was that?”
  36. Baikal
    Baikal April 16 2014 07: 22
    +2
    The Pentagon issued a statement on Monday stating that the Russian Su-24 bomber ...

    Warren called such maneuvers intimidating and unacceptable. They demoralize the personnel of the ship and negatively affect the general psychological climate among military personnel ...

    According to him, now the ship is safe in the Romanian port, where it was urgently evacuated. The crew members undergo the necessary procedures with a psychologist to recover from the stress ...

    And although the Pentagon promised to increase the insurance sums of military personnel from 1 million dollars to 3 million dollars ...


    Dear author, will the proofs be for the article?
    All this, of course, is beautiful, like all of us - I am glad for any successes of our soldiers and equipment ... BUT!
    Somehow too all these quotes are given by comedy.
    It’s not a sin to laugh at mattresses, but only a little is believed in what the author wrote.
    request
  37. Sasha_Bykov
    Sasha_Bykov April 16 2014 07: 24
    +3
    Four days later, the Russian intelligence service sent an e-mail to the Kitty Hawk commander, photographs of our pilots rushing about on the deck, desperate to lift planes into the air ... ”

    The events described in the letter took place in the area of ​​the Korean Strait 17 on October 2000. Two Su-24МР reconnaissance aircraft and the Su-27 fighter-interceptor unit from the 11 Air Force and Air Defense covering them . According to the then Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Air Force Anatoly Karnukov, "it was a planned reconnaissance, during which, however, unusual tasks were solved." Moreover, no international agreements were violated by the Russian side.
  38. Sanamana
    Sanamana April 16 2014 07: 26
    +4
    article is complete nonsense! Of course it’s nice to think that we are the most. But do normal people really believe this? The plane flew by, and the Americans were overthrown. do you believe it yourself? It is clear that this is an information war, but to go down to the level of a kindergarten is already too much.
    1. Ptah
      Ptah April 16 2014 07: 30
      +1
      good Scha zaminusutsya ....
      1. Baikal
        Baikal April 16 2014 07: 51
        +2
        Plus
        Where are the proofs for the article?
        About peaceful Soviet tractors write a lot.
        Keep the caps guys, everything in moderation should be soldier
    2. another RUSICH
      another RUSICH April 16 2014 07: 48
      +1
      I think that they were not guessed by the type of aircraft, but by the radar jamming that they had set for us.
      1. Baikal
        Baikal April 16 2014 07: 55
        +1
        Good theory, good)
        But, as Lyube sang - "Yes, I want to believe, but my soul does not order" wink
        Share links suitable for the application?
    3. Ulairy
      Ulairy April 16 2014 08: 00
      +1
      Yeah, "flew by" ... 12 times. Through portals! It is, you know, demoralizing laughing
      They didn’t get fucked up, they politely complained: "Russians are evil, why are you doing this? We are scared!" MO did not comment on this cute rebuke, because from childhood they were used to sleeping with a cast-iron pistol under their pillow, and not with a plush toy from Disneyland ... Although it is hard to believe that 27 digs resigned, despite Reiters:
      According to Reuters, after the story of the Russian Su-24 overflying the USS Donald Cook, 27 (twenty-seven!) Crew members submitted their resignation. According to them, they "do not intend to endanger their lives."
      Read in full: http://yablor.ru/blogs/27-raportov-ob-otstavke-posle-prole/4331919
      1. Baikal
        Baikal April 16 2014 08: 56
        0
        Quote: Ulairy

        Read in full: http://yablor.ru/blogs/27-raportov-ob-otstavke-posle-prole/4331919


        From your link:
        PS The words about 27 resignation reports turned out to be fake. Well, henceforth I will know how I feel about the site of Novorossiya, which has already removed its words about "27 reports". Well, for me - henceforth science: take your time and double-check on the Reuters website. I apologize, but I will not change the text - I was mistaken, it means I was mistaken.
  39. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 April 16 2014 07: 27
    +2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    And when they signed the contract, no one promised them that a Russian plane would fly over them.


    At their recruiting points, an advertising post for the Navy sounds like this: "This is not a service - this is an adventure!" So they are worried about their priceless lives, apparently no one explained about the death during the adventure ...
    And so - do not hell with them in the Black Sea. How many times they came, so many times they received snot.
  40. Volozhanin
    Volozhanin April 16 2014 07: 28
    +1
    For me, this is a hat-shouting, cheers-patriotic "duck" to cheer up from the morning. Never think that your opponent is blind and deaf. Or a coward, as it is written here. There is official confirmation that they are there ... ..fight? No. The Americans, unfortunately for us, know how to fight, and they fight in a new way. And the British, in general, are an extremely inconvenient enemy, but that makes them more interesting.
  41. Krsk
    Krsk April 16 2014 07: 30
    +3
    And they did not say that the destroyer is a warship? They thought that they went on a yacht on the Black Sea? pissed, what else can I say ... Sailors would have sailed home while you’ve remembered, and it’s not even an hour, the carcass will still militate.
  42. Alex_on
    Alex_on April 16 2014 07: 33
    +2
    The bottom line: most likely the aircraft pumped the destroyer air defense and flew away, the data is being processed. The rest is lyrics.
    I completely agree with the danger of the completely dense underestimation of the enemy.
  43. Brother
    Brother April 16 2014 07: 33
    +14
    Hello everyone hiI leave it here soldier.
  44. Siberian 1975
    Siberian 1975 April 16 2014 07: 37
    +2
    E-mine, how gentle we are, what nervous we are institutes. But Libya and Yugoslavia didn’t piss bomb, SUKI angry
  45. Sars
    Sars April 16 2014 07: 42
    0
    It turns out that Russia no longer needs to arm itself - one plane closed the Black Sea!
  46. Barakuda
    Barakuda April 16 2014 07: 42
    +1
    Maybe hatred. But in the American Army there is a shortage of contractors, more than half are not US citizens at all. Officially allowed to serve ped.kam and pregnant women.
  47. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 April 16 2014 07: 45
    +3
    from the Don.

    Somehow, a ram quickly forgotten by amers with our ship of theirs! The USSR is gone, but the Russians remained!
  48. another RUSICH
    another RUSICH April 16 2014 07: 46
    +3
    International rudeness ov from permissiveness and invulnerability. Rub on those little bitches who are sitting in the bunker bombed by drones, like they play a computer. And then there was what it really was about. And when jo-pa is wet, then you don’t want to serve anymore, it’s not comfortable
  49. w2000
    w2000 April 16 2014 07: 48
    +2
    imitation of the attack of the Su-24 on the destroyer of the U.S. Navy had a demoralizing effect on the crew of the ship. 27 destroyer crew members resigned


    The crew members undergo the necessary procedures with a psychologist to recover from the stress.


    Under international maritime treaties, American ships cannot be in the Black Sea for more than 14 days. Exceeding this period gives Russia a legal right to launch a missile attack and destroy these ships without declaring US war.


    The article smacks of delirium composed for high school patriots.
    1. Ptah
      Ptah April 16 2014 08: 02
      +2
      Quote: w2000
      The article smacks of delirium

      The author is a well-known here "master of artistic whistle the words "Banshee" (Victor). THANKS to him for that !!!
      That's how he sees the situation. And that’s it ...
      For informativeness - "-".
      For positivity from the morning - "+".
      Eventually - ?????????????????
  50. Barakuda
    Barakuda April 16 2014 07: 54
    +4
    Quote: another RUSICH
    there was something really real about it. And when jo-pa is wet, then you don’t want to serve anymore, it’s not comfortable

    Really, at exercises, when attack aircraft fall on your head, believe me, the "sensations" are still those, even though I am a clumsy dozen, while they do not even shoot, but I already want to sit on my ass.