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Anton from Kramatorsk: we all hope here for the help of Russia

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My companion name is Anton. He is thirty years old, he is a resident of the city of Kramatorsk. That same. He is married, works and really wants not only to live, but to live well and in a good country. Reads "Military Review". It was he who, after one of my articles, found me. And now we are in live chat mode. And what I heard, I want to share (with his approval).

This was not an interview. I did not have time to think through the questions, so in fact it was a monologue. We talked about everything, jumping from one topic to another, as millions of normal people communicate. Well, and I simultaneously frantically wrote down something. Later, more or less ordering everything, I got the following. Further narration is already on behalf of my interlocutor.


Weapons few. It is catastrophically small. The fact that they took in the police department - tears. There will be militants against us who obviously don’t have to save every bullet. And we did not have enough for everyone. Scary - the number of crumple.

Due to the lack of weapons, I got into the reserve. Well, not got it. So while we sit and wait. If there is a team, let's go, of course. The guy has a car, after the call we will go to the place where they will say.

As such, the clashes have not yet been. The guys who died at the checkpoint were shot from a helicopter. They generally had no chance to leave, there is an open place in fact. This checkpoint is now gone.

Fighter all day sliced ​​over their heads. Somewhere from 11 to 18 hours. Maybe changed. Flew one, then flew another. Or this one was refueled. But flew all day.

Police - handsome. Half of them sit at home and tell on the Internet how they were driven into concrete and they were not allowed to collect personal belongings. These are those that are loyal to Kiev. The second half is engaged in ordinary business. Although what crimes can there be today?

The executive committee is working. The second and third floors are free, deputies and officials go to work freely. Power is relatively present. The head of the city Kostyukov - ... rare. I myself stood on the square, I personally witnessed how he came to us and “pereobulsya”. "I am with the people, I am for the people, I will do everything to prevent outrages." And in the evening I read him on the Internet, telling me that he did not agree with the separatists. Now he goes to work in such a way that it is said in the city that it is time to drive him out for absenteeism.

Today some Germans were seen near the executive committee. It seems like the representatives of the OSCE were.

The city lives. All enterprises work. Only one school was temporarily closed in the center. Just in case. It became bad with transport. With many routes the hosts took off buses. To avoid possible losses. Taxi is expensive. Gasoline from Maidan doubled in price.

Infuriates "ostrich policy." Many fit on the streets, especially older ones. "Why do you need this, you can endure a lot." There are many who want to sit out. And so if you see how much more to endure? I 30, of which 23, and only endure. Enough!

There are also "banderostaty". Not particularly frantic, rather sympathetic. Autopilot not loving Russia and everything connected with it. And you start saying, like, who is better to the authorities, to Bandera or Putin, even those who call Putin a “putler”, agree that he is better. Yes, a lot of crazy stuff.

The only thing that they all fear, and to convulsions, to diarrhea - is if the Russian army goes to Ukraine. If anyone in Russia saw how they would be harmed by the phrase “What will you do when the Russians come here to defend us?”, You would understand that your army is greatly appreciated.

Let the box show the best, even if not all parts are like that. But this is enough. The Russian army is really afraid of both the military and scumbags here. If this happens, that is, the Russians will come to our aid, then there will be no war. All will scatter: the warriors and Bandera. These are different things, to shoot boys with machine guns from a helicopter, or to deal with the Russian army.

We do not have to fight for us, we ourselves will. Just banderlogov panicked fear from the phrase "Russian army", so we still hope for help from Russia.
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  1. Aeneas
    Aeneas April 16 2014 07: 55
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    And you start to say, like, who is better for power, Bandera or Putin, even those who call Putin “putler” agree that it is better than him. Yes, a lot of nonsense.This is really starting to sound like nonsense, because Stepan Andreevich has already died about 60 years ago, and Vladimir Vladimirovich is more alive than all living things, in good health and, as they say, "blooms and smells."
    1. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ April 16 2014 08: 01
      +24
      Analysis of the actions of the rebellious people of the Southeast.
      The main thing is not to sit on the defensive, only the dynamics of the uprising will give victory to the people.
      1. Well well...
        Well well... April 16 2014 08: 44
        +1
        Here you are, whose shortcomings are you talking about?
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        2. Stalker
          Stalker April 16 2014 22: 40
          +9
          Under the guise of anti-terrorist struggle, Kiev sows troops to feed in the Donbass .... laughing
          1. Niki
            Niki April 17 2014 08: 58
            +6
            Moreover, there have already been reports that the so-called troops are really looting, stupidly so as not to starve. And some fighters treat the inhabitants as a population in the occupied territory.

            So this is not just food, but the deployment of troops to plunder.
            At the same time, even equipment is sowed through sown fields, and almost all agricultural work has been disrupted. Consequences in the UN language are an inevitable humanitarian catastrophe.
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      2. w2000
        w2000 April 16 2014 09: 57
        +2
        P ... ive - do not toss bags.
      3. Vadim2013
        Vadim2013 April 16 2014 14: 24
        +13
        The man correctly explained everything about the action of self-defense units of the South-East of Ukraine. Passivity is the ruin of rebellion.
        1. mejik
          mejik April 16 2014 15: 25
          +4
          Quote: Vadim2013
          The man correctly explained everything about the action of self-defense units of the South-East of Ukraine. Passivity is the ruin of rebellion.

          Hope for Russia, but don’t be bad!
          1. Valrad
            Valrad April 16 2014 21: 16
            -7
            Quote: mejik
            Quote: Vadim2013
            The man correctly explained everything about the action of self-defense units of the South-East of Ukraine. Passivity is the ruin of rebellion.

            Hope for Russia, but don’t be bad!


            I think Russia will merge southeast resistance. I get the impression. Ukrainian authorities decided on a special operation and do not care Russia. and before they were afraid. it means that something has changed and the West really pressed us again. how I hate them !!!
            1. Suhow
              Suhow April 17 2014 00: 01
              +3
              the peasant said to protect ourselves, they have fewer Toko trunks.
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        3. Sandov
          Sandov April 16 2014 20: 32
          +2
          Quote: Vadim2013
          The man correctly explained everything about the action of self-defense units of the South-East of Ukraine. Passivity is the ruin of rebellion.

          Men are more active. Create your own authorities, hold a referendum, beat banderlog. And Russia needs help with weapons and ammunition.
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      5. yacht
        yacht April 16 2014 23: 09
        +1
        With this video urgently you need to familiarize Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - in order of educational program.
    2. Canep
      Canep April 16 2014 08: 02
      +23
      There is an opinion (mine) that the troops in Kramotorsk and Slovyansk do not care about the local residents, the mattresses lost 20 people, either mercenaries, or saboteurs, provocateurs. It seems that they were captured by local residents, militias. wassat wassat wassat Hard to believe. Perhaps there are several more groups working there looking for these fighters, and the Ukrainian army is conducting diversionary maneuvers, or the Kramatorsk airfield will be used to receive mercenary saboteurs or to evacuate them. For this, the CIA director came "secretly" to Kiev. Isn't it possible that the US intelligence services have been reduced so much if the sabotage group can be captured by the militias, and the media reports about the secret arrival of the CIA director almost ahead of time.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov April 16 2014 08: 34
        +53
        Anton from Kramatorsk: we all hope here for the help of Russia
        And here we are Dima, Vasya, Kolya, we also hope for the help of Russia. We hope that Russia will come and heap in Kiev to those who settled there. And not only in Kiev. Here are such coincidences.
        1. unclevad
          unclevad April 16 2014 09: 34
          +15
          Now, the guys need to throw a no-fly zone and weapons, grenade launchers, in particular.
          1. _Forgiven_
            _Forgiven_ April 16 2014 10: 16
            +63
            Grenade launchers and Stingers. Helicopters fly all the time, and MIG also cuts one. Knock down turntables at least because they scattered the militants from the Dolby Banyi Right Sector in the vicinity of my Slavyansk (in the fields and forests). We are waiting for what they can through the forest from the Kharkov-Rostov highway to tram these metro cities to the city. The people are no longer the army and the special forces are afraid, but more of the right-wingers and our valiant guard, gathered from the Maydaun scumbags. They do not have the concept of peaceful, not peaceful. They’ll start dissecting and creating at home. God knows what, but I have a baby and my wife sitting at home when I go to work, there’s nothing to shoot back in case of anything ... This is really bad ...
            1. free
              free April 16 2014 11: 42
              +9
              Quote: _Forgiven_
              Grenade launchers and Stingers. Helicopters fly all the time, and MIG also cuts one. Knock down turntables at least because they scattered the militants from the Dolby Banyi Right Sector in the vicinity of my Slavyansk (in the fields and forests). We are waiting for what they can through the forest from the Kharkov-Rostov highway to tram these metro cities to the city. The people are no longer the army and the special forces are afraid, but more of the right-wingers and our valiant guard, gathered from the Maydaun scumbags. They do not have the concept of peaceful, not peaceful. They’ll start dissecting and creating at home. God knows what, but I have a baby and my wife sitting at home when I go to work, there’s nothing to shoot back in case of anything ... This is really bad ...


              we have no stingers, and why if there is a needle
              1. badger1974
                badger1974 April 17 2014 21: 38
                0
                don’t scare dudes, in Russia the Needle is -1, there’s a slightly different GOS than just the Needle, and the needle is not a fact, but just intimidation, the worst is self-sampling, I support self-sampling, these paints are almost like a dribble, then e between .. .y and p .... th in the interval, looking where it slips, but slides it is a fact, and in fact, no one is indisputable to fight, so only rob Poroshenko
            2. Valrad
              Valrad April 16 2014 21: 19
              0
              Quote: _Forgiven_
              Grenade launchers and Stingers. Helicopters fly all the time, and MIG also cuts one. Knock down turntables at least because they scattered the militants from the Dolby Banyi Right Sector in the vicinity of my Slavyansk (in the fields and forests). We are waiting for what they can through the forest from the Kharkov-Rostov highway to tram these metro cities to the city. The people are no longer the army and the special forces are afraid, but more of the right-wingers and our valiant guard, gathered from the Maydaun scumbags. They do not have the concept of peaceful, not peaceful. They’ll start dissecting and creating at home. God knows what, but I have a baby and my wife sitting at home when I go to work, there’s nothing to shoot back in case of anything ... This is really bad ...


              all this is understandable ... I don’t even know what will happen next.
              1. badger1974
                badger1974 April 17 2014 21: 41
                0
                they’ll have norms, they are already in melancholy, the heat will soon come up, they will remove the masks, that will be the accusations of each other
            3. Suhow
              Suhow April 17 2014 00: 08
              +2
              it’s hard to be on the platoon all the time. I hope the army will not go against you, but you can handle the ps yourself.
              1. Varangian22
                Varangian22 April 18 2014 12: 15
                0
                The army has already gone against the people, and even local officials, and they will be worse than the right-wingers - because they decompose all resistance from the inside!
          2. CALL.
            CALL. April 16 2014 12: 02
            +20
            . If, however, this happens, that is, the Russians come to our aid, then there will certainly be no war. Everyone will run away: both warriors and Bandera.


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      2. Ruswolf
        Ruswolf April 16 2014 08: 36
        +25
        He speaks correctly!
        Want victory, stop anarchy!
        One centralized power! One policy! Coordination of action!
        An organized nation is no longer a crowd! This is a political force!
        1. _Forgiven_
          _Forgiven_ April 16 2014 10: 29
          +24
          In words, this is so, but ... On the Maidan, these cattle were brought a crap and everything else as expected. And here people carry whoever has + little weapons
          1. free
            free April 16 2014 11: 43
            +5
            Quote: _Forgiven_
            In words, this is so, but ... On the Maidan, these cattle were brought a crap and everything else as expected. And here people carry whoever has + little weapons


            we are all here for you, there will be a team we will definitely help!
          2. Ptah
            Ptah April 16 2014 12: 22
            +4
            Quote: _Forgiven_
            little weapons

            Recently guys from Ukraine talked about it. Do not even buy trauma or gazulki. I'm going to go tomorrow and buy a couple of barrels. We exchanged boxes, today we will sign off. We will think how to convey to them.
            Although they are truckers, they are absolutely not sure that there will be flights to Russia (maybe only through Belarus).
            Somewhere it will be necessary to cross ... K
            They are already packed in canned food. And it’s not even that they plan to sit in the cellar, but is getting more expensive every day ...
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      4. ed65b
        ed65b April 16 2014 09: 17
        +1
        They swelled. laughing
        1. Horly
          Horly April 16 2014 09: 39
          +1
          and went for the girls - to replenish the Ukrainian budget! laughing
      5. Rus2012
        Rus2012 April 16 2014 14: 35
        +5
        Quote: Canep
        There is an opinion (mine) that the troops in Kramotorsk and Slovyansk do not care about the local residents, the mattresses lost 20 people

        ... there is such a version! bully
        The seizure of the building of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in Slavyansk took place 4 days ago, since then the events have spread throughout the south-east of Ukraine. Against the habit today, "forces from all the country's power units" have been attracted and are acting. It is in Slavyansk, although more important cities are also covered by unrest.

        The fact is that yesterday at a checkpoint near Slavyansk there were so far unknown events to the public. Konstantin Pozhidaev, the head of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine in the Donetsk Region, appointed by Avakov only last month, was lucky: he resigned "by compelling protesters." Thanks to the protesters: otherwise, the major general would have to look for last year’s snow, and then be extreme because he could not find it.

        I did not even look for references in the press and on the network about what caused the dramatic events in Slavyansk. Because it is not yet profitable for either side to raise this sensitive issue. Therefore, I will explain briefly: at one of the checkpoints between Kharkov and Slavyansk, two trucks with people in the form of the Ukrainian police, under the control of the aforementioned Facebook user, were stopped.

        These two dozen people in the form of the Ukrainian police were well armed and physically prepared to tear to shreds the crowd surrounding them, which, according to the testament of the leader, was civilians, behind which loomed fifty people armed with Kalashnikov’s assault rifles, in camouflage uniforms without identification marks and in civilian clothes. People in police uniforms were stopped by television cameras and iron discipline.

        During a personal search, it turned out that although not all of them (most) had American citizenship, each person in the form of the Ukrainian police, except for two of those traveling in these trucks, had an American ID with him. Many of them do not speak at least the rudimentary Ukrainian or Russian language. The exception was two Ukrainians - truck drivers.

        here completely - http://takie.org/news/slavjansk_i_chastnaja_voennaja_kompanija/2014-04-15-9968
      6. Gray 43
        Gray 43 April 16 2014 18: 35
        +1
        Remember how many successful special operations the famous "Delta" has?
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    4. Cosmos1987
      Cosmos1987 April 16 2014 08: 23
      +13
      Who is a bandera? the one who shot soldiers in the back, shot at unarmed people. Yes, this force is something to imitate in the same way, and the right-wingers are just a mugut, that they can beat unarmed Berkut soldiers, and they, in turn, can not even answer. and Putin has insisted on being afraid of RUSSIA!
    5. VNP1958PVN
      VNP1958PVN April 16 2014 08: 24
      +9
      Lukashenko asks the president to you, rate it! He said by the end of the summer there will be no problems!
    6. nemec55
      nemec55 April 16 2014 08: 43
      +1
      You whom you equate with whom, got out to write a dirty trick.
    7. Dazdranagon
      Dazdranagon April 16 2014 08: 52
      +13
      And you start to say, like who is better for power, Bandera or Putin, even those who call Putin a "putler" agree that they are better than him. Yes, there is a lot of nonsense. This is really starting to sound like nonsense, because Stepan Andreevich has already died about 60 years ago, and Vladimir Vladimirovich is more alive than all living things, in good health and, as they say, "blooms and smells."
      - Yes, they didn’t catch the irony ... It’s hard for you ... laughing
    8. invisibility
      invisibility April 16 2014 09: 08
      +35
      Stepan Andreyevich did not die, but died like a dog. There he is dear ...
      1. free
        free April 16 2014 11: 45
        +9
        Quote: invisible
        Stepan Andreyevich did not die, but died like a dog. There he is dear ...

        Yes, he is not Stepan Andreyevich, but a complete scum
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    10. Name
      Name April 16 2014 09: 54
      -6
      You ! last at the gorish, yes at the last ,!
    11. Anper
      Anper April 16 2014 10: 08
      +12
      Quote: Aeneas
      Aeneas

      Muddy you, Aeneas. Your essence in the comments is not a dissenting opinion, but as if to compliment and shame, Your essence is just purely Bandera, despite the fact that Stepan Andreevich is about 60 years old. So his business, apparently, lives and is realized in your person.
    12. sv68
      sv68 April 16 2014 10: 44
      +6
      you conducted a survey on the Maidan or in a madhouse
    13. Cristall
      Cristall April 16 2014 11: 18
      0
      Quote: Aeneas
      Aeneas UA Today, 07:55 AM

      -41! Wow, for what?
      1. Yegorchik
        Yegorchik April 16 2014 13: 55
        +5
        Quote: Cristall

        -41! Wow, for what?

        For Stepan Andreevich that Stefan, Bandera sabaka pierced.
    14. Mareman Vasilich
      Mareman Vasilich April 16 2014 12: 13
      +12
      Quote: Aeneas
      ..if Stepan Andreevich is already about 60 years old as he died ....

      People die, cattle and scum die like mad dogs. Learn language.
    15. daemon
      daemon April 16 2014 19: 26
      +12
      That feeling when your koment did not like laughing
      1. kocclissi
        kocclissi April 16 2014 20: 28
        +4
        No, that’s about how you feel in Kiev!
        1. Suhow
          Suhow April 17 2014 00: 18
          0
          if you don’t support theses about fat and separatists, invaders. I know for myself, although while they aren’t hitting, the guys are like some hard workers, some of what I say makes me think.
      2. Suhow
        Suhow April 17 2014 00: 13
        0
        Damn, to the point.
    16. dmitrij.blyuz
      dmitrij.blyuz April 16 2014 20: 37
      +1
      Weapons would help them. This is the case.
    17. radar1967
      radar1967 April 17 2014 17: 37
      +2
      ATTENTION!!!!!
      WHAT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DO TO THE REPUBLICAN .... In no case should one get involved in an open fire confrontation! I repeat - IN NO CASE! People need to be protected. Each militia is worth its weight in gold. Especially the former military. There is the experience of the Belarusian partisans, tested over the years, whose tactics of action have been successfully developed by the Afghan and North Caucasian Mujahideen. Cheap but cheerful!
  2. omsbon
    omsbon April 16 2014 07: 55
    +19
    For some reason, I’m sure that we won’t leave OURS in trouble !!!
    1. sscha
      sscha April 16 2014 07: 59
      +29
      Pancake! Though drop everything and go to brothers to help !!!! hi
      1. jungar
        jungar April 16 2014 08: 27
        +74
        I drill, but what trouble, we have with the Russians the same idea, principles and spirit. And I feel this Ukrainian guy as my brother. I’m sitting here and thinking: we Buryats, excellent warriors, the war is in our blood (the ancestors of the Huns and Genghis Khan), and if necessary, we could form an expeditionary force to help the east and south of Ukraine, especially since it was already in our history, my grandfather died in the Second World War near Moscow. Oh, we would tickle Bandera’s necks with our sabers.
        1. Ptah
          Ptah April 16 2014 09: 04
          .
          Quote: jungar
          Oh, we would tickle Bandera’s necks with our sabers.
          ...
          the war is in our blood (the ancestors of the nomads of the Huns and Genghis Khan), and if necessary, we could form an expeditionary force to help the east and south of Ukraine

          Hello .... DEAR BURYATS !!!
          What are you there, you are longing and have multiplied immensely that you were so impatient to "equip with sabers."
          There, tanks and Grads are rolled out to their positions. And then the Buryats stuck in and crumbled everyone ...
          Guns are the LAST MATTER. The last ... And it is still very far away.
          It's like two sisters lived in an apartment. One was jealous and kicked up. So her "fat sister" will only crush her belly with her swollen gas.
          Trying to get by WITHOUT BLOOD !!!!!!!!
          Maybe everything is in order and the herds of horses are harnessed for a walk to Europe. So far, they can cope without YOU. Nobody attacked us, you too, and enemies are not expected near Moscow.
          Therefore, "two are fighting - the third is not in the way." hi
          Quote: jungar
          we have the same idea, principles and spirit with the Russians. And I feel this Ukrainian guy as my brother.

          Thank you for that, and that's enough for now. In my opinion, one Asian proverb goes something like this - "don't blow on the embers, you may not have time to escape from the yurt."
          Moreover, there are plenty of "blowers" there. From the west ...
          1. Estet59
            Estet59 April 16 2014 09: 32
            +66
            Ptah, your fabrications minusanul I. You, apparently, did not serve in the invincible and legendary, when we were respected and feared. We did not think then - which of us is from. And I had a deputy - drill Frunze Holbanovich Manzhuev. With him even today in intelligence. But with you, I would think. You do not notice that your thoughts are in tune with Maidan nationalism? Better keep silent, show yourself smart! I have the honor.
            1. Ptah
              Ptah April 16 2014 13: 30
              .
              Quote: Estet59
              Ptah, your fabrications

              This is not a fabrication, but a conviction based on today's realities, when WE pay with you the ARMY and WEAPONS. When there is the FSB, GRU, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, etc., and The ENEMY at the borders of Russia does not and will not be. Or doubt?
              Then why did we not see this notorious enemy for two decades, when Russia was not weaker than today.
              And the Maidan is not an adversary. This is PASKUDNIK, which will be sold to anyone by the fall, when there will be nothing to eat. They will devour their leaders ... And without our participation. A military man must understand this, if he is already, of course, aware that "Budenovka" have long been changing to "Warrior", and the cavalry to "Armata" and "Lynx".
              Quote: Estet59
              You, apparently, did not serve in the invincible and legendary, when we were respected and feared.

              Was called to the INVINCIBLE, and demobilized from the NOT legendary. I am sure - not yet legendary. And it is better not to allow "legends" and trench stories at all.
              Quote: Estet59
              But with you, I would think.

              There is no need to think. This "happiness" is unlikely to loom to me. My VUS is far from crawling over bumps on my belly. They cooked for something else, spent people's money and commanders nerves. Don't worry - I won't stay idle. And this is not a field kitchen or a locker.
              Quote: Estet59
              You do not notice that your thoughts are in tune with Maidan nationalism?

              I did not hide my sympathies for nationalism. Only not Maydaunovsky, but Russian, which it would not hurt to add. Otherwise, there will be no one to speak in about ten years. An example of blurred musleuropia in front of my eyes. It’s a pity that you don’t see this.
              Quote: Estet59
              Better keep silent, show yourself smart!

              When to be silent, and when to "serenade" or shout "Uryayayayaya" is up to me. And only to me. We are not on the parade ground and not at the party meeting.
              I have the honor! hi Comrade generalissimo ...
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              1. asar
                asar April 16 2014 20: 00
                +5
                Russia is a multinational state! Praising some while belittling others is not an option! We know many examples of this, it didn’t lead to anything good!
              2. Combitor
                Combitor April 17 2014 00: 09
                +2
                Quote: Ptah
                I have the honor!

                You have no honor. You publish a photo of Shoigu, which was not made by you. You act like a bazaar merchant collecting gossip. Do you want to show your photo? Though we will see your face ...
                1. Ptah
                  Ptah April 17 2014 00: 46
                  0
                  Quote: Kombitor
                  You have no honor.

                  Have you found her at home?
                  Quote: Kombitor
                  You publish a photo of Shoigu, which was not made by you.

                  I did not claim authorship. And posted, taking it from the PUBLIC Internet, which is not forbidden by the laws and rules of the site. And you don’t have anything to do with ****? Throwing me to present in dishonesty, YOURSELF YOU DO NOT EXPRESS YOUR POSITION, without writing a line that would be similar to HEALTHY reasoning. But in every possible way you hide your intellect.
                  Quote: Kombitor
                  Do you want to show your photo? Though we will see your face ...

                  No, I don't want YOU, who needs it and who asks - please. I am not a fashion model that everyone would like. All the more so with YOU to me, KG. "do not baptize children" ...
                  1. Combitor
                    Combitor April 17 2014 01: 21
                    +2
                    Quote: Ptah
                    posted by taking it from the PUBLIC Internet

                    And the public women do just that. You are afraid to show your face. "Only your own"? Bazaar traders communicate only in their own circle.
                    1. Ptah
                      Ptah April 17 2014 01: 40
                      -2
                      Quote: Kombitor
                      And public women do just that.
                      Bazaar merchants only in their circle and communicate.

                      Now I know how the public BABS come in. You, I look baaaaaalshoooy such a schpetsiaglist exclusively in THIS QUESTION. Thanks for the science! For the most part, I only communicate with WOMEN. I try not to dangle around the bazaars.
                      And you adapt the site to your usual environment.
                      Quote: Kombitor
                      You are afraid to show your face. "Only your own"?

                      Sent through a PM.
                      Yes look, little rascal. You kind of .....
                      YOU only asked FACE. And other parts of the body do not interest you. I can also send larger sizes. You will print the poster, hang it on the wall, open the VK page "Ptah Fans".
                      Nothing underwear is required. Panties there, socks? Maybe tattered tights, covered with putty will do. I will specially send unwashed ones. For the best ts. "feeling" ... laughing
                      Okay, tie ... You tired me, it’s even not interesting to bite you. YOUR persistent immunity to intelligence prevents ... fool
                    2. stalkerwalker
                      stalkerwalker April 17 2014 01: 40
                      +4
                      Quote: Kombitor
                      And the public women do just that. You are afraid to show your face. "Only your own"? Bazaar traders communicate only in their own circle.

                      Are you rude?
                      Morally sustainable handsome man with avatar?
                      Before blabbering about the honor of an officer, re-read your posts provocative, which are pulled to the level of a chest-zavskrad ...
                  2. samoletil18
                    samoletil18 April 18 2014 21: 31
                    0
                    Quote: Ptah
                    dishonesty
                    The Russian nationalist is literate, and you ... (as in the joke: "Well, what are you gay? You just ...").
                    1. Ptah
                      Ptah April 19 2014 06: 01
                      0
                      In principle, I never use the word "devil" as an ADDITIONAL to words, ALWAYS, in the absence of it, distorting all the deep meaning inherent in them.
                      The Christian will understand.
                      demon honest, powerless, powerless (in my post below).
                      But I admit exceptions - WITHOUT.MORAL, WITHOUT.
                      Before the reform of the RUSSIAN language by the Jewish Lenacher (Lunacharsky), words in the ABCs were written ONLY AS I DO.

                      I also do not use the word "gay" (eng. Gay) I always use only OFFENSIVE terms. The most "soft" of which is perverted.
                      I speak English well. I know that this adjective, originally meant “carefree”, “funny”, “bright, theatrical”
                      Do not agree with me - you can "brightly, cheerfully and without care" rejoice with them ... hi

                      And there was nothing more to write? So they showed their ignorance on two issues ... crying
                      1. samoletil18
                        samoletil18 April 19 2014 10: 02
                        +1
                        Well, for the "gay" I apologize, it looks like I'm hooked on the quick. And in terms of grammar, first at least try to make changes officially, like Russian, who does not care what is going on in Russian philology, and then present YOUR IGNORANCE as a reason to teach others. And I, as a Russian, as a patriot, being even abroad, use English only for commands to service personnel. And when communicating with simple Anglophone people, even understanding them perfectly, I always get some gadget with a translator, let them forget the 90s.
                        Damn, back in the fall, the site was ... and now it’s turned into some classmates. Can administrators not add a rating for political articles and comments to them? The review is MILITARY.
                      2. Cynic
                        Cynic April 19 2014 10: 19
                        +1
                        Quote: samoletil18
                        for political articles and comments on them do not charge a rating? The review is MILITARY.

                        War is the continuation of politics by other means.

                        Karl von Clausewitz (1780–1831), On the War (Part 1, 1832)
                        hi
                      3. samoletil18
                        samoletil18 April 19 2014 17: 37
                        0
                        Quote: Cynic
                        continuation of politics
                        But not politics. Look into the archive, what interesting discussions on technology, history. And because of the fucking Maidan, he sat down for a half-turn. Here, of course, you can understand anyone, but I, personally, registered on the site due to the lack of "Albanian language" and interesting articles and competent comments.
                      4. Cynic
                        Cynic April 19 2014 18: 13
                        +2
                        Quote: samoletil18
                        but I, personally, registered on the site due to the lack of "Albanian language" and interesting articles and competent comments.

                        If you try to understand what you have written here, then you can come to interesting conclusions.
                        A joke of humor.
                        What can you do about such times, but you must remember the battles on the site between representatives of independent and other types of equipment.
                        hi
                      5. samoletil18
                        samoletil18 April 19 2014 20: 44
                        +1
                        Yeah. It is necessary to check what he tapped on the clave. A joke of humor appreciated. He tried to feel sad, but he neighed.
                        Quote: Cynic
                        What to do times such

                        Plus from me. good hi
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      2. Suhow
        Suhow April 17 2014 00: 29
        +1
        ) men inappropriately minus for a different opinion, we have almost an internecine war in Ukraine
        1. Ptah
          Ptah April 17 2014 01: 08
          0
          Useless calls, Sergey. request
          Here, many, with the same "flags" (hidden (?)), Were simply mocked and accused of not agreeing with the introduction of troops into the territory of Ukraine, but in no way expressing their positive attitude towards Russians in general.
          And the camarade "shoulder straps" had marshal's and general's, so they didn't give a damn about the "minuses".
          They just spat, and they don’t come in anymore.
          There are fewer topics related to weapons, and more and more news from Ukraine.
          And this is a klondike for imbeciles. You can pop up five lines like "Let's go to Kiev" and a hundred of the same "will raise your virtual rating".
          Two years ago, about fifty people were registered here. All of them knew others well. Often disagreeing with the opponents' changes, but everyone was interested. Every "minus" was followed by a reasoned justification
          A year ago, the members of the forum noticeably increased, it became even more EXCITING. And no less useful and interesting.
          Now the site is freezing. "comments" ABOUT ANYTHING. It is impossible to "fight" this. "spinning the mouse wheel" is lazy. The site is transforming from a once unique MILITARY REVIEW in a woman's chatter, monkey antics of others in front of others. Who is more "graceful" to express himself so that the chorus pulls up, and "the audience applauds." It's a pity...
          I generally regretted that I taxied on this thread. After all, I refused to go only on topics directly related to the ARMY.
          Okay. This will not happen again. And stupidly troll screaming big-age dope - disgusting ... hi
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker April 17 2014 01: 15
            +4
            Quote: Ptah
            Here, many, with the same "flags" (hidden (?)), Were simply mocked and accused of not agreeing with the introduction of troops into the territory of Ukraine, but in no way expressing their positive attitude towards Russians in general.
            And the camarade "shoulder straps" had marshal's and general's, so they didn't give a damn about the "minuses".
            They just spat, and they don’t come in anymore.

            Forget it, Eugene ....
            You are right. Ascetic appears as Santa Claus - once, and already a holiday. KAA (without prefix) so finally disappeared. Veterans leave, sadly ...
            hi
            1. Ptah
              Ptah April 17 2014 01: 52
              0
              Not only "KAA" ... Many of those who are interesting to read. And laugh with dignity.
              Now I won’t remember everyone. I do not want to list, forgetting to mention someone.
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              Veterans leave, sadly ...

              Well, there were still strong men, Ilyich ... And what smart ones !!!
              Eeeeh ... "We'll all be there" (c) crying
              You don’t even see anything modders ... what

              I sent, just in case, my face, like the "kumbitor". Otherwise he will think himself "exceptional".

              No need - you can erase ...

              Shl. By the way. Happy anniversary"!!! The fifth thousand comments went !!! drinks
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker April 17 2014 02: 18
                +2
                Quote: Ptah
                Shl. By the way. Happy anniversary"!!! The fifth thousand comments went !!!

                In .. But I didn’t notice fellow
                Grind with tongue - do not carry bags laughing
                drinks
          2. Normal
            Normal April 17 2014 01: 55
            +2
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            Before blurt out about the honor of an officer ...

            Quote: Ptah
            Useless calls, Sergey.


            Guys, do not waste your mental strength and time on srach. Do not make excuses and do not minus. Support your word and deed and pass by those who slander.
            I agree with Vadim;
            Now the site is freezing. "comments" ABOUT ANYTHING.
            and plus.
            Ilyich
            Veterans leave, sadly ...
            - respect. We will still say our word.drinks
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker April 17 2014 01: 59
              +3
              Quote: Normal
              Ilyich
              Veterans leave, sad ...- respect. We will still say our word

              Hi Vladimir!
              hi
              Thank...
              Have to...
              drinks
            2. Ptah
              Ptah April 17 2014 02: 13
              0
              Here is Vladimir rake on the lighthouse! hi good drinks
              It would be necessary to blame a little for a week absence, but I will not. Itself was absent almost two weeks.
              I confess, already fed up with "news from the fields of Ukraine". From which to ... fields.yuyu There is nothing to plow - solarium in armored vehicles.
              Plowmen-trakhari are engaged in self-destruction. How could this be supposed half a year ago.
              Again it turned out at the amers ... Again they started to sprinkle the jackets red. Slavic little red ...

              Yeah ... Site as a reflection of the general level of education.
              "The population is growing, and the amount of intelligence is a constant value" (c).
              1. Normal
                Normal April 17 2014 02: 59
                +1
                Quote: Ptah
                Hi Vladimir!

                Great, Ilyich!
                Quote: Ptah
                It would be necessary to blame a little for a week absence,

                Yes, I’m on the site every day, but I don’t write. I read articles, look through comments and there is no desire to express myself.
                All that we know (or believe that we know) about the situation on UkrAin is just a film of fuel oil on the ocean surface of the causes, intentions, secret agreements, omissions and incentives of the main directors of what is happening.
                Little is clear to me so far, but there are a lot of visitors on the site who understand everything, who are absolutely sure, who have no shadow of doubt about anything. Let them reprimand, let their charge of drowsy splash out, but for now I will be silent and think. (it is useful)
                They say that in 1914, Russia, too, was swept by a wave of cheers-patriotism. The result was deplorable. I would not want a repetition.
              2. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker April 17 2014 03: 14
                +3
                Quote: Normal
                I'll be silent for a while and think about it. (it is useful)

                + + +
                good
              3. Ptah
                Ptah April 17 2014 03: 56
                0
                Quote: Normal
                All we know (More accurate believe we know)

                Slightly corrected the quote, if permissible ...
                The only thing that cannot be allowed, and why the Americans are so eager to stir up, is to prevent blood and not succumb to the provocation of the Russian troops.
                The funds for putting pressure on the Maydanuts have not yet been exhausted. To hold out for a couple of months at any cost, but trying by all available means not to shake the already shaky border between hostility, somewhere in disgust and the desire to destroy other others. on the wild call of "blood feud".

                For the rest, Ilyich and I -
                "Approving-s" ...
              4. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov April 17 2014 05: 51
                +2
                Quote: Normal
                , and while I am silent and think about it. (it is useful)

                Yes, sit, think, sometimes it’s better to be silent than to speak wink
              5. Normal
                Normal April 17 2014 09: 22
                0
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Yes, sit, think, sometimes it’s better to be silent than to speak


                Well, I don’t have so much time (and desire) to fumble on your comments and catch your tongue, so rejoice.
                The one who is always in the "stream" is not mistaken, the one who keeps his nose to the wind (weather vane, novels, weather vane wink ) or someone who does not say anything specific is expressed by slogans, appeals and propaganda cliches (there are more than enough of this on the site now, you have a lot of followers)

                Regarding what I said earlier
                1.
                Russia, in the person of its leadership, recognizes ANY power in Ukraine.

                I acknowledge; was wrong, flushed up and got excited.

                2.
                Russia, in the person of its leadership, did everything (with its inaction) so that what happened happened on UkrAin.

                No one has proven otherwise. That's right.
                America was able to carry out its sabotage (financing, political support zapadentsiv and Maidan), and where has our leadership looked in recent years?

                3.
                "Russia recognizes and respects the choice of the Ukrainian people, and considers it inadmissible to interfere in the internal affairs of Ukraine as an independent, sovereign state."

                We hear something like this almost daily from the lips of high-ranking Russian officials (as well as not Russian ones), only each puts his own meaning into these words.

                Well, since I climbed into the past, I also kick you, novels, with your own sayings laughing


                Alexander Romanov (2) RU February 22, 2014 10:19:

                What exactly could Russia do? To support the prostitute Yanukovych, who threw Russia and muddied the tricks with the EU. The question is, we need to defend a traitor who is ready to lick any ass for his own ambitions.

                As you can see, much can be done if desired (Crimea !!!)
                And the prostitute Yanukovych (traitor), the Russian leadership sheltered and defends. belay
                And here's another:
                Alexander Romanov (2) RU February 22, 2014 16:28:

                I don’t know either, but wait a couple of days. I think and I am surethat denouement will be.

                I think, and I'm sure that a couple of days have long passed. laughing
  3. Russ69
    Russ69 April 17 2014 00: 37
    0
    Quote: Ptah
    I did not hide my sympathies for nationalism. Only not Maydaunovsky, but Russian,

    Whatever, he was not nationalism, in essence, one G ....
  4. Roman 57 rus
    Roman 57 rus April 17 2014 00: 57
    +1
    Sort, accidentally put you +!
    1. Ptah
      Ptah April 17 2014 03: 03
      -1
      Yes, fullness to you, Roman Borisych! And on that we thank that at least not out of sly. Moreover, you have a chance to "improve", which you have already used more than once.
      So I deliberately returned the "spityuyusiiiiik" so hastily spent by you.
  5. samoletil18
    samoletil18 April 18 2014 21: 25
    0
    to me. And only to me
    Pendal would educational
  • jungar
    jungar April 16 2014 10: 08
    +52
    Did you read well? Unlike you, We are warriors (about the epithet "bred" more carefully, otherwise our sabers and tongues can cut off). So it doesn't matter to us how many we are, but it is important that the BROTHER needs help, and it doesn't matter where he is, in Europe, in Africa, or on the moon. There were never many of us, but we know how to defend our own, even from guns, even from sabers. One of our main truths: TAKE CARE OF A BROTHER EVEN MORE THAN YOUR CHILDREN, FOR YOU MAY STILL HAVE CHILDREN, BUT THERE WILL NOT BE MORE BROTHERS! And if my dear Plath you can understand this for yourself, then you will be invincible.
    1. oldy
      oldy April 16 2014 11: 03
      +27
      Do not be offended by the weak-minded, they are already offended by God- jundar- maydanutye and the 5th column of liberals dream of embroiling us Russians! The poor do not realize that, for example, in Siberia, people have been mixed for centuries and live together! For example, my maternal ancestors were exiled by the tsar in the 19th century to Siberia for the Warsaw Uprising - I have Polish and Chaldon blood, and on my father I am a "White Guard" Kolchak - the Russian grandfather of a non-commissioned officer of the imperial army was put against the wall by the Bolsheviks and the family was exiled to the Angara taiga ..
      However, in the Second World War, it was the Siberian regiments in sheepskin coats and felt boots that decided the issue of victory near Moscow in 1941. I know that among the Buryats there were brave warriors, and especially snipers who, like whites in the eye, shot the German fascist invaders! I have no doubt, if necessary, and now WE will not let the Siberians down, and the Buryats will not let them down with Kalash sabers and not on horses, but on tanks will ride along Koeschatik to "enforce peace" on the maidan Great Ukrov- :)))
      1. Siberian 1975
        Siberian 1975 April 16 2014 16: 57
        +8
        I completely agree! Himself from the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug, and the peoples we have the sea, and we live together. And I do not advise fighting with us.
    2. free
      free April 16 2014 11: 54
      +11
      Quote: jungar
      Did you read well? Unlike you, We are warriors (about the epithet "bred" more carefully, otherwise our sabers and tongues can cut off). So it doesn't matter to us how many we are, but it is important that the BROTHER needs help, and it doesn't matter where he is, in Europe, in Africa, or on the moon. There were never many of us, but we know how to defend our own, even from guns, even from sabers. One of our main truths: TAKE CARE OF A BROTHER EVEN MORE THAN YOUR CHILDREN, FOR YOU MAY STILL HAVE CHILDREN, BUT THERE WILL NOT BE MORE BROTHERS! And if my dear Plath you can understand this for yourself, then you will be invincible.


      jungar respect, think right!
    3. ibragim
      ibragim April 16 2014 13: 29
      +11
      Well done adequately answered. The young man clearly did not serve in this CA when we were not divided into nations. We were all brothers, and now we remain them. Do not be offended by him, you need to learn how to live, and respect others. And remember when you hold out your hand, you need to shake it!
    4. ed65b
      ed65b April 16 2014 14: 37
      +8
      Ay Dzhungar, ah well done. I didn’t see my colleague personally. Respect to the boys from Ulanovka. hi
    5. silver_roman
      silver_roman April 16 2014 15: 58
      +3
      Quote: jungar
      : SAVE THE BROTHER EVEN MORE THAN YOUR CHILDREN, FOR THE CHILDREN YOU MAY ALSO BE, AND THE BROTHERS WILL NOT BE ALREADY MORE

      if I’m not mistaken, this is from a parable about how Genghis Khan was captured by a woman with her son, husband and brother. and Genghis Khan offered a choice of 1 out of 3 lives. the woman chose her brother .......
      Genghis Khan was surprised, they say why exactly his brother ???
      The woman replied:
      I’ll give birth to another son, I’ll find a new husband, and one brother forever!
      from here is this truth ???
      1. Ptah
        Ptah April 16 2014 23: 12
        +1
        Quote: silver_roman
        it’s from a parable

        Earlier, perhaps from a parable, but, I remember, it was described in the book by Vasily Grigorievich Yan "Genghis Khan".
        When one of the hordes leading at that time (I do not exclude Mamaia, Batu or anyone else) when meeting a woman from whom they took her husband, son and brother full, after her request to pick up one of them and held dialogue between them, tore off a blade of grass and, holding it out to the woman, uttered the words for his subordinates to hear - "Until this blade of grass dries up, a woman can walk between the troops, looking for the one she wanted to take. And no one, on pain of death, has the right to her at least somehow- then offend. "....
    6. Suhow
      Suhow April 17 2014 00: 31
      +1
      I don’t know, I think children are more important - this is the future of us all.
    7. sns
      sns April 17 2014 09: 47
      +4
      Dzhidinsky or what? Why so hot? Do not worry in vain the memory of our ancestors, Genghisides. Let the Rusich themselves figure it out among themselves.
      In general, I was surprised at the support of the Buryats on this forum. Honestly touched. Whatever the Buryats say, we remember, even if we reluctantly, but in fact - Russians in spirit (or Soviet?). Just sometimes bitterly read the comments of Russian Natsiks like Ptah or hear about the next beating of skinheads. The soul is bifurcated. :(
      Where does the homeland begin?
      1. Ptah
        Ptah April 18 2014 05: 03
        -1
        Quote: Sns
        Russian Natsik comments like Ptah

        To confirm YOUR words, you can show a couple of MY quotes that would indicate my belonging to the "Nazis".
        If this does not follow, I consider it appropriate for me to call YOU anyone. At my discretion. hi
    8. Baikal
      Baikal April 17 2014 20: 35
      0
      jungar is a man and brother. Health, long years and good luck to you!
      It is a pity that some cosmopolitans and "fixers" lack endurance and wisdom. And humanity.
    9. samoletil18
      samoletil18 April 19 2014 10: 40
      +1
      Jingar! Your opponent (Ptah) meant something different, by "bred". And he is not against helping the BROTHERS. In his reply, he tried to convey that we will come from Russia as invaders, it does not matter for the Ukrainian army, a volunteer or regular troops. With those who came from abroad, the conversation is only through weapons (tanks, MLRS, small arms, air force, artillery, etc.), but it is not good to use the army with Ukrainians in Ukraine, which makes the anti-Maidan position more stable.
      Emotions, however! But how can they not be? At the very same little hands itch.
      P.S. About BROTHER - beautifully written, well done!
  • Aleksandr68
    Aleksandr68 April 16 2014 10: 23
    +6
    now anyone is dear who, even without a "saber", will support the southeast.
  • edeligor
    edeligor April 16 2014 10: 25
    +7
    Quote: Ptah
    Guns are the LAST MATTER.

    I agree, but just not to be late, otherwise the argument will be in favor of the dead brothers.
    What are you there, you are longing and have multiplied immensely that you were so impatient to "equip with sabers."
    In this you are absolutely wrong! A worthy and highly respected people, excellent warriors, for their professional service in the Armed Forces, have repeatedly been convinced of this. And your inventions from the series "bears on Red Square ..."
    1. andj61
      andj61 April 16 2014 11: 58
      +4
      Often, the guns themselves do not play a big role, but only the determination to use them when other arguments are no longer perceived. Good should be with fists.
    2. Ptah
      Ptah April 16 2014 12: 03
      .
      Quote: edeligor
      Worthy and very respected people, excellent warriors

      Quote: Ptah
      Hello ...., DEAR BURYATS !!!

      Dear and respected, but here's one, apparently from "another deck". Or he has nothing more to say, but he wants something, except -

      "and if necessary, we could form an expeditionary force to help the east and south of Ukraine,"
      Did you miss the war game? Considers himself the chief of the Russian General Staff, the director of the GRU, and deputy Lavrov at the same time ...
      Or as in Russia there was no one left who could raid in Ukraine, without "BURYATSKY FORWARDING HOUSING".
      I mean the military. specialists and others who are precisely on duty and imprisoned to solve such problems ...
      1. edeligor
        edeligor April 16 2014 14: 29
        +2
        Quote: Ptah
        Did you miss the war game? Considers himself the chief of the Russian General Staff, the director of the GRU, and deputy Lavrov at the same time ...

        smile There are enough of them on our site. Personally, I consider such zeal a positive quality, and the Napoleonic complexes, a youthful expense.
  • sv68
    sv68 April 16 2014 10: 53
    +3
    ptah, you are a very narrow-minded person, and people like you need to explain only with specific examples, you won’t understand otherwise. With such thoughts it will be very difficult for you in life
    1. Ptah
      Ptah April 16 2014 11: 57
      0
      Quote: sv68
      such as you need to explain only with specific examples, otherwise you will not understand

      Not later than three days ago I spent the night in a roadside campsite with two long-range guys from Ukraine. From near Nikolaev. It is from them that I know about the real situation in their area. Ethnic Ukrainians spoke very well about the Russians, but are categorically against finding at least one soldier from Russia, and even more so such HERRORS like the couch saber-blood-chopping "warrior jungar" who went crazy on the "victories of the Chingizids" and dreamed of taking a walk somewhere in a horde. Not to China ...

      The boys asked one thing - help with the necessary things and information support. They themselves will wring out the tanks from the maydauns, but if Russia intervenes, then NATO will also burst into the opened door, with all the carcasses.
      What then? The war of Russia and Ameria on the territory of Ukraine? They are waiting for the children to finish the school year, and then they are going to take the families away. One in Belarus to relatives, and the other does not know ... Property is a pity - they will destroy it.

      And here, on the site, over the past couple of months there have been such a number of "dzungars" who feel sorry for sending even a thousand people to their settlement accounts, even if the same Kiev-Pochaev Lavra, but yelling foolishly - "Goeuuuuuuuu !!!! (When?) there alleeeeeeeehhh! "
      They will not say anything sensible and constructive, but they "collect plus signs" on screams ...
      How are they different from zapadentsev? Then let them go right away to Lviv, and begin to undermine commandant's offices and derail the NATO echelons ...
      Piz ... oly ...
      1. aleks 62
        aleks 62 April 16 2014 13: 59
        +9
        ....Respected!!!! What is NATO ???? As long as Raseya has "Kuz'kina's mother", no one, and I think never .... They will pour these Nata into Vuikainu, if there are ... mustache to lose overnight because of some kind of Vuikain ?????
        1. asar
          asar April 16 2014 20: 04
          +1
          Guys let's be friends!!!
      2. ed65b
        ed65b April 16 2014 14: 44
        +6
        Vadim you are now in a fever, do not butt. No one in real life calls for sending troops to help. We have the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, As he decides so and will say forward, then forward says stand, it means to stand. But no one forbids that support the rebellious southeast with finances and coordination of actions and this is more likely to be discussed. Well, about the Buryats, etc., etc., you probably got excited. Russia rallied against the backdrop of events in Ukraine. ethnos has become one, we are all Russian now.
        1. Ptah
          Ptah April 17 2014 00: 06
          +4
          Greetings, Edward!
          1. Notice. And where are "Akim", "Kars", "Captain Vrungel", "Makarov" and many others. others from Ukraine. But people like them on the site (WERE) are not the first year. And they differed in their competence in MILITARY areas. They were interesting to read, interesting to argue and useful to ask about.
          But now they are not there - they have been ousted by the "dzungars" (sometimes three "pages" each) with their cries - "And now I will raise my * oops over the sofa, but how will I run all rubiiiiiit ..." and fifty people like him in response - "I and myyyyyy".
          Who, where ??? Yes, not earlier than "on this night, Ukrainian samurai will cross the border by the river" (c), or a summons from the military registration and enlistment office about MASS MOBILIZATION will not come. In the meantime - sit "in a yurt" exactly and believe in those who KNOW AND KNOW what SHOULD be done.
          2. A lot and EVERYONE talks about "information war". Here it is necessary to help on this front, and not to bustle empty, forcing the already strained relations between the peoples-brothers and countries-sisters. There, in Ukraine, they also read such sites and, based on what they have written, make up impressions about US. Then they believe their propogondons. And the "dzungars" do not understand this, or they are on ....., or vice versa, they force it.
          I correspond via the mailbox with two "former" members of the forum, but their nerves are stronger, they do not want to mess with such screaming. They have no time for this, they are preparing for an INTERDEPARTMENTAL WAR.
          Which they were organized by the "dzhons", and the "dzungars" help those ...
          Quote: ed65b
          No one in real life calls for sending troops to help. We have the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, As he decides so and will say forward, then forward says stand, it means to stand.

          Here on Exhortation I just reeled up. Pay attention again.
          The commander IS, and I, as "his subject", must obey the order. Has he already been? The corresponding order ...
          He will not be, if some are taken away in time ...
          Quote: ed65b
          Russia rallied against the backdrop of events in Ukraine. ethnos has become one, we are all Russian now.

          We are with the Ukrainians RUSA. And they want one "STRETCH YOUR HAND - WE WILL APPRECIATE, BUT PUT INTO THE DOOR YOUR LEG TO CREW IN FULL" (they are sure that this is exactly how everything will happen on the part of Russia "- WE WILL NOT ALLOW AND WILL BE READY TO RESIST BOTH THE WEST AND THE EAST ... "
          We are brothers with the Belarusians RUSS and with the Kazakhs, but they do not call for "creating Einsatz teams" for a trip to Ukraine.

          What is feasible, reasonable and acceptable for me in this situation, I have already said and will do it.
          I will buy a pair of "Makaryches" (although they are farthing, but still better than nothing at all ...) and transfer some money through the website of the Orthodox association to someone who is ready to defend their FAMILIES AND HOMES !!!
          I really hope and believe that later they will not be smacking at "Ivanov" and "Dzhungars" from these trunks ...
      3. jungar
        jungar April 16 2014 18: 54
        +3
        Ptah! You are apparently a brave man, if you so loudly and boldly throw words. We even have very brave people say less. And at a personal meeting you are probably terrible to terrible.
        1. Ptah
          Ptah April 17 2014 04: 49
          0
          Quote: jungar
          Ptah! You are apparently a brave man

          It is difficult to judge about oneself. But, apparently, those with whom I fought on Kazan streets at the beginning of the 90’s, and the coaches, when they took dozens of competitions, and the commanders in the fleet, and the cellmates in the zone, and the wife who agreed to give birth to me boys, may who else ...
          Quote: jungar
          so loudly and boldly throw words.

          1.
          How is that "loudness" measured and, tell me dear Altai bro, what is the "insult" that (allegedly) I inflicted on you B-O-P-R-O-S-O-M, citing words from the Bible, and not obscene in the Russian language.
          Let me remind you - "FRUIT AND REPRODUCT" (justification in my other post). In this "intolerable insult"?
          Yes, if you and I looked at demographic statistics and saw the numbers of population growth there / multiply immensely / not at the expense of migrants, but exclusively the womb of OUR women - I would only be happy! And you, against?

          2.
          And here I am, in turn, in the form of delirium, I can roll it out to you in an indirect insult to the RUSSIAN people.
          You, as a representative of the Buryats, thereby showed disrespect to us, wanting to gather "Buryat regiments" to fight our brothers, Orthodox Ukrainians. With whom we are NOT IN THE CONDITION to grind OUR questions? Why such distrust of Russians?
          Delirium and dyur? That's it...
          And shouting about "a Buryat squadron in shaggy hats on stocky, dashing horses, rushing across the Kazakh steppes (will the Kazakhs miss it?) Is not nonsense ???

          3.
          In general, everyone licked their foams.
          I am "pluralism of opinions".
          You and your like-minded people in this for fifty virtual "plus-kisses".
          Advertisers on the site - how many. visitors.
          Visitors - an unforgettable srach show performed by recognized masters of their craft.
          And the "combitor" even vytsyganit my photo. Such, you know, an entertainer ... laughing
          And those who are now in Ukraine lost.
          Draw conclusions who you helped his call.
          The State Department, because the Russians did not doubt their friendship with the Buryats, as well as with the rest.
          Quote: jungar
          And at a personal meeting you are probably terrible to terrible.

          More likely no than yes. Deffki believe that he is erudite, witty and (kind of like) handsome in appearance. Nearby boys that are cheerful and resourceful. Sons - so generally that he is kind, able and generally ...
          The wife is affectionate and fair.
          The only thing that no one reproached with hypocrisy and duplicity, necessarily sooner or later led to betrayal ...
        2. Ptah
          Ptah April 17 2014 04: 50
          0
          Quote: jungar
          our sabers and languages ​​can cut

          Yes, God (and) judge you, and the local cook to help.
          I will not specifically swing in the direction of "threats to my people from the proud .....", which will not be difficult for me to do. As for, if my language was meant exclusively, then this is from the realm of the unrealizable.
          "He sees an eye, but a tooth itching"
          / rus. folk./
          I can also want a lot. Who cut something, cut someone. Yes, they taught to cope with emotions and adrenaline, stood out - to regulate. System woo, advise.

          Better (in the culinary sense), turn your eyes to the "bird's tongues" in the literal sense. But this is expensive and the aftertaste, like thoughts, is highly questionable.
          I will advise beef. It is large, relatively cheap and affordable. Good appetite.
          Well, what are you waiting for and heels at the door. Come - poured !!! drinks hi
      4. dzau
        dzau April 16 2014 19: 27
        +7
        Quote: Ptah
        They themselves will wring out the tanks from the maydauns, but if Russia intervenes, then NATO will also burst into the opened door, with all the carcasses.

        Rather, it’s you, dear, demonstrate kindergarten naive. He will push out the tanks himself ...

        Bare ass? The guys were already shooting from the helicopter and armored personnel carriers at the checkpoints - and it didn’t even come to full-scale contact. If it flares up seriously, there will be a mess, and the probability that the guys left without means of fighting aviation and heavy equipment (and they, according to some testimonies, have a shortage of small arms) will be stupidly "crushed by the mass" - is more real than the squeals -For we will throw hats. Even if our people give them a little something, the porridge will still be terrible. For the Kiev side (taking into account the state of the Armed Forces) is stupidly not able to work accurately and "pointwise".

        Interestingly, those who shout "yes, we will wring out the tanks ourselves" (artillery, aviation - too, right?) - with their bare asses, excuse me, will close the civilian population? On which the Kiev authorities, like it or not, will have to hammer - if it decides on a full-fledged operation. Just like Moscow had to hammer through villages and quarters into the Chechen one.

        **
        As for the second. No NATO in their right mind (and should not refuse an opponent) to a direct confrontation with the Russian Federation will never go.

        If they could afford it, they would bomb and bend the Russian Federation to hell even during the operation in Yugoslavia, by analogy with it.

        But any open conflict with Russia is fraught with uncontrolled escalation, the result of which could be the use of nuclear weapons. Moreover, Russia has prescribed its preventive use in its doctrine.

        The red line for the use of nuclear weapons by either side (this is a banal common sense) is a threat to the survival of the nation and the existence of the state. For Russia, for Russians, the invasion of any forces on the territory inhabited by millions of Russians, where our cities have been standing for centuries - such a threat is obvious. Frankly speaking, no matter how Western Yeltsin's prostitutes draw the boundaries of "division" of the USSR, our people consider Ukraine their land, and the border is just temporary. The final loss of this land, direct control over it by foreign forces are unacceptable, terrible and, most definitely, the loss of 40 million compatriots, along with a huge territory saturated with infrastructure, is a terrible blow to our statehood and a very real threat to the further "survival" of the nation as such ... Ukraine is to Russia what Kosovo is to the people of Serbia. Some have a primordial land, a Kosovo field, the ripped out heart of the country; and others have the mother of Russian cities, the origins of statehood, more than a thousand years of history. Given the difference in the scale of the countries, the comparison, I think, is more than appropriate.

        For the states, the conflict is x. he knows where, on the other side of the ocean, whose goal is only to "slow down" the opponent who is getting on his feet - is not a threat to "existence". To put it simply, they have a clear understanding: if they climb up, they will get banged on them. Not to mention that even with a "conventional" confrontation, the losses will be terrible.

        This layout is understandable both there and here. That is why on the other side we observe a poorly concealed tantrum.
      5. radar1967
        radar1967 April 19 2014 06: 59
        0
        You will not believe it, but literally everything is beneficial for Russia with a sane president:
        -and federalization, and accession, and NATO in Ukraine, and even more so the civil war is not strange, it is also economically and politically beneficial .... The point is completely different ....
    2. samoletil18
      samoletil18 April 19 2014 10: 56
      +1
      sv68
      Guys! Enough minus FOR FORM, CONTENT, because it’s correct. Russia has specially trained people to solve these problems. And my hands itch. But in the composition of the troops or self-propelled, any citizen of the Russian Federation who arrived with weapons is an aggressor, with t.z. international law.
  • andj61
    andj61 April 16 2014 11: 51
    +4
    It is not necessary to divide Russians of all nationalities. I also minusanul.
    1. Ptah
      Ptah April 16 2014 13: 48
      +1
      Did I share them? In terms of Russians of all nationalities. I also consider Ukrainians living in Ukraine to be RUSSIAN. They just divided them without my participation.
      And no need to HOSTER !!! It is necessary to help efficiently, and from this site a lot of people have left precisely those who call themselves Ukrainians, respectful of Russians and obvious experts in many MILITARY SCIENCES.
      Most likely under the influence of such "comments" as ...
      Many recently registered. I was more interested in talking with them on MILITARY-POLITICAL TOPICS, and not on the topics of homegrown partisans.
      Quote: andj61
      I also minusanul.

      Yes, no problem ... request I, too... hi
  • ed65b
    ed65b April 16 2014 14: 35
    +6
    Quote: Ptah
    Hello .... DEAR BURYATS !!!
    What are you there, you are yearning and have multiplied immensely that you were so impatient to "equip with sabers"

    do not touch the Buryats. And then they really wave, the people are hot.
    1. Ptah
      Ptah April 17 2014 03: 21
      -2
      Who is "touching" them? Let them live and puff peacefully. Buddhism is a much more "peaceful" religion than Islam itself.
      More precisely, some interpretations used by some for some purposes.
      And what is hotter, for example, Tatars, Bashkirs, or the same Caucasians?
      "Raise from the ruins" Altai, like the Caucasus .... It will be too expensive ... what
      1. ibragim
        ibragim April 17 2014 08: 36
        0
        One gets the impression that you, too, from the Maidan do not like our Caucasus, but we are restoring it and want to live in peace without the Wahhabis as we lived before. I just feel sorry for you wretchedly.
        1. Ptah
          Ptah April 17 2014 09: 03
          0
          Quote: ibragim
          you are also from the Maidan

          From there, from there ...
          Quote: ibragim
          you think.

          "Cogito ergo sum"
          / Rene Descartes.
          But this is for those with whom there is a desire to talk. And you-
  • Tihonoff
    Tihonoff April 16 2014 18: 42
    +7
    I have been living in Buryatia for 25 years. Russian. Born in one of the cities of the Golden Ring of Russia. There are relatives in Ukraine (however, like many) ... So, what I want to say ... With regard to the Buryats, they say, they have proliferated - I consider this remark extremely offensive (and personally for myself too) ... In the Buryats (and I I know this firsthand) there will be more Russian than in any other Russian, And they know how to drink vodka, and they can give not weakly in the face ... and we have tanks ... there is one more significant point among the Buryats - this is such a "herd" a sense of collectivism. One for all and all for one, both in sorrow and in joy. And here I understand Dzungar ... My uncle himself, in the past, the SA border guard was seriously going to go to Ukraine at the age of 60 - he has two sisters in Donetsk. So please, be careful with expressions ... Remember at least Budanov ...
    1. Ptah
      Ptah April 16 2014 23: 23
      +1
      Quote: Tihonoff
      Russian.
      Jungara, I understand ...
      have bred - I consider this remark to be extremely offensive (and personally for myself too)

      And now more ...
      Maybe for Buddhism (shamanism or Tengrianism) the phrase "proliferated immeasurably" and is offensive? I don’t know, it seems to me that any people should only be happy if they say this about them ...
      But in Christianity -
      "And God blessed them, and God said to them: breed and multiply, and fill the earth, and possess it, and rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, and over every animal that creeps on the earth."
      (Gen. 1: 28)

      The first means "to be fruitful" (productive, to bear fruit - "the tree is known by its fruit"), and the second - "to increase, multiply" (can be compared with a very rapid quantitative growth of something).

      One can also see some spiritual analogy with qualitative and quantitative growth.

      I do not want such GROWTH - their God (and) they judge. I insist not in the right ... request
  • Russ69
    Russ69 April 17 2014 00: 34
    +2
    Quote: Ptah
    Why are you there, yearned and bred immeasurably,

    Turn to a psychologist, maybe it will help ...
    Ptah is being treated, you need anyway ...
    1. Ptah
      Ptah April 17 2014 01: 22
      +3
      Quote: Russ69
      Turn to a psychologist

      Okay. Just ask a question first.
      Paying attention to the quote, which simply leads everyone into a frenzy.
      Why are you there, yearned and bred immeasurably,

      Next was the QUESTION. It is clear what this means? QUESTION, and nothing more. And where is there to spit "offensive".
      And if I'm Russ.whom (and myself) ask the same elementary question.
      "And YOU (WE) have proliferated?" we live according to the commandments bequeathed in the Bible - will you also throw yourself with a saber? It is too QUESTION... Buryat may be excusable, but Russian cannot understand intonation - no.
      Then I'll turn to the psychologist for now. Come next ... hi

      Threat. And what is it that the Buryats rushed to the defense? Are they a vanishing nation? Or subjected to unreasonable repression? Or did someone suggest their genocide? So I will be the first categorically against this.
      Something about other nationalities did not notice this. If you do not take into account the Jews ... what
      1. badger1974
        badger1974 April 17 2014 22: 12
        0
        I don’t understand one thing, but why didn’t they flog our Crimea ?. after all, they promised when the Russians were gone, and I’ll say the maydauns ... they were successful, so that after the fight only losers and drowned in hidden sin wave their fists, by the way the leadership flush homosexual creatures, and in addition to frigid females, there is an extraordinary cocktail, you’re with your rabble already think about waving at Europedia, more than all the places will be occupied, WE GO
        1. Ptah
          Ptah April 18 2014 05: 24
          0
          Quote: badger1974
          I don’t understand one thing

          Just "one"? I didn't understand what it was at all.
          But since it’s kind of like turning to me, I’ll try to clarify something.
          1. "Why didn't you flood your Crimea?" - Who? What for? When?
          2. What and who does after the fight, I know firsthand. But it is very individual.
          3. I also heard about the preferences of the current "leadership". I treat their sexual preferences with disgust.
          4. Do I have a rabble? And who are these individuals unfamiliar to me?
          5. I’m sure I know a lot about Europedia (like countries in Europe). Everything is not so simple. But did not like it. Come back.
          6. "WE ARE GOING" ... I don't understand how to relate, but I will be glad for YOU! Hooray!
  • regsSSSR
    regsSSSR April 17 2014 16: 17
    +3
    here is the class !! good
  • Estet59
    Estet59 April 16 2014 09: 23
    +3
    Well done, man! Warrior, patriot!
  • smart ass
    smart ass April 16 2014 11: 57
    0
    Take me with you
  • Boatsman_Palych
    Boatsman_Palych April 16 2014 13: 07
    +6
    Dzhungar, brother, but we ourselves are like that — to go and pile on the Nazis. So it is impossible so far - and so the whole West whines about Russia's aggression. But the backpack is already packed soldier
  • goose
    goose April 16 2014 13: 46
    +4
    And I like Buryat horses, it is very nice to ride them far. You can shoot at a gallop and ... hit - it goes very smoothly.
  • Aleks_good
    Aleks_good April 16 2014 17: 24
    +3
    Thank you for the desire to help, but you need to understand the people of Russia are steadily baiting the people of Ukraine, and victory in such a confrontation is to bring the Ukrainians out of a powerful propaganda blow. They are there under hypnosis ... my wife’s girlfriend lives in Moscow with her husband for many years, so her mother says she don’t come with my son, otherwise the Russian troops will come to kill us ... SIMPLE PEOPLE IN UKRAINE SHOULD URGENTLY RESCUE FROM THE INFORMATION PRESS ! Such persuasion technologies must be prohibited, it is simply impossible! By the way, apparently Western intelligence services of Russians through the Internet or in some other way they incited Ukrainians ... to the enemies of Russia in history books and brainwashing RUSSIAN-UKRAINIAN WAR NEEDED!
  • asar
    asar April 16 2014 19: 51
    0
    Well done! Many have similar thoughts! Only this will be consonant (according to the Western interpretation!) The intervention of Russia against Ukraine! Thank! Only need exposure guys! And again endurance and patience!
  • Paranoid50
    Paranoid50 April 17 2014 00: 01
    +2
    Yes, I agree, Buryat warriors, especially snipers. My grandfather told me (he finished the Patriotic War in Budapest). In the battalion they had two platoons drilled, the result at the end of the war: four heroes and six full cavaliers of the Order of Glory.
  • Ulairy
    Ulairy April 16 2014 08: 29
    +29
    It's time to lace up the berets ... Military commissar, give my machine gun back!
    Both the military and the scumbags are really afraid of the Russian army here.
    That's what I really believe, + Banshee and Anton. And I also hope for the help of Russia. It’s time to comb this zoo and raise lice.
  • samoletil18
    samoletil18 April 16 2014 09: 18
    +3
    Quote: sscha
    Pancake! Though drop everything and go to brothers to help !!!! hi
    Yekaterinburg Vishnevskaya 49a; draft board of the Kirov region. I know where to go.
  • free
    free April 16 2014 11: 47
    +2
    Quote: sscha
    Pancake! Though drop everything and go to brothers to help !!!! hi


    if ours is promoted (which is unlikely) we will do it!
    1. asar
      asar April 16 2014 20: 09
      0
      And how many volunteers from Russia in the warring Yugoslavia were in the know ?! I’ll say that decently!
  • major071
    major071 April 16 2014 09: 31
    +16
    I also believe that we will not abandon ours, but in today's reality wars begin and end in offices. And I know, I am sure that Russia is making every effort, but so far at the diplomatic level. Well, we cannot bring in troops now! No matter how painful it is to say it, you can't. One uncle said correctly yesterday: "You see, on one side of the street we will be greeted with bread and salt, and on the other side with a burst of automatic weapons." Hold on, bro! There will be help. I'm sure.
    1. avt
      avt April 16 2014 09: 38
      +5
      Quote: major071
      And I know, I’m sure that Russia is doing its best, but so far at the diplomatic level.

      Well, not only, poorly armed militias filled up the turntable, there was an operator who, with an urgent paddock, kept and trained, after work, with her every evening. smile
      1. badger1974
        badger1974 April 17 2014 22: 23
        0
        yes, it's okay, in fact, it's good at least they didn't meet the hungry Ukrainian army with "bumblebees" and dense pyromania, but fed the hawk, which they hadn't seen since the day of the maneuvers, jackals in the depths, like detachments barriers, although they got excited and there weren't any detachments from them, so dudes with a cudgel
  • dimarm74
    dimarm74 April 16 2014 07: 56
    +2
    Well, if so, as Anton writes. Let's hope that these shoots still will not start.
  • omsbon
    omsbon April 16 2014 07: 56
    +4
    For some reason, I’m sure that we won’t leave OURS in trouble !!!
  • brelok
    brelok April 16 2014 07: 59
    +8
    Just banderlog feel panic from the phrase “Russian army.” This is hereditary. And the majority decided to stay. In all times in Ukraine
  • kocha 43
    kocha 43 April 16 2014 08: 05
    +5
    Yes, brothers need help until blood has been shed! Volunteers must be sent to Spain! I think a lot of people will go to destroy this scum!
  • dimdimich71
    dimdimich71 April 16 2014 08: 06
    +8
    Russian soldier is death for the Nazi !!!
  • Humpty
    Humpty April 16 2014 08: 13
    +9
    Not enough weapons to defend, and a shotgun is sometimes better than nothing.
    Not everyone had their youth at the computer, they themselves could make some adaptations. Uzbekistan in 2010 we quickly figured out how, for example, gas and oxygen cylinders could be used for other purposes. This was even shown on ORT without going into the details. Goal for invention is cunning.
  • Gagarin
    Gagarin April 16 2014 08: 13
    +8
    I feel that as long as these ghouls from Kiev do not shed, no one will stop them ...
    1. samoletil18
      samoletil18 April 16 2014 09: 29
      +5
      Quote: Gagarin
      I feel that as long as these ghouls from Kiev do not shed, no one will stop them ...
      I'm afraid so.
  • Corsair
    Corsair April 16 2014 08: 13
    +18
    Quote: from article
    Weapons are few. Its catastrophically small.

    Near Artyomovsk in the mine them. Volodarskiy ("Artemsol") ENDLESS DEPOSITS of various small arms and ammunition.
    And from media reports, and my friends, the warehouses were controlled by activists and the shipment of weapons was not allowed ...

    What happened?

    Has the junta taken control of the warehouses?
    To miss such a guarantee of security, in the face of an impending junta, is Recklessness... three times.
    1. Lunic
      Lunic April 17 2014 00: 25
      0
      The weapons there remained.
      News 24 reported:
      Warehouses are blocked by locals who do not want it to go to any of the warring parties. No weapons and no corpses ....
  • andrey777
    andrey777 April 16 2014 08: 15
    +4
    It is necessary to introduce the peacekeeping contingent of Russia.
    1. Serg 122
      Serg 122 April 16 2014 10: 49
      +1
      It is necessary to introduce the peacekeeping contingent of Russia.
      The coulters will not allow this! The UN is already against:
      MEXICO CITY, April 16th. / ITAR-TASS /. Now it is inexpedient to send peacekeepers to Ukraine under the auspices of the UN, said UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon. This position is set out in his interview, published on Tuesday in the Mexican newspaper Reforma.
      "At the moment, it does not seem advisable to send troops there," - quoted by the publication of Ban Ki-moon. "The crisis in Ukraine is fraught with more far-reaching consequences than only regional ones," the head of the organization believes.
      1. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
        Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. April 16 2014 13: 30
        +4
        We are talking about the peacekeepers of RUSSIA, not the UN. The UN members only come to a nodding analysis when the "hot" phase of the conflict has already passed. When the southeast wins (which I have no doubt about), then the Security Council will unanimously want to introduce blue helmets there so that the poor followers of the Geyropes will not offend.
    2. silver_roman
      silver_roman April 16 2014 16: 00
      0
      not that it is not necessary, NOT in any case. they expect only this from Russia when a brother goes to his brother. you need to work precisely, mobile groups send and destroy stealthily the enemy, and not head-on. In essence, all this evil in the future is being prepared for the Russian Federation!
  • ambiorix
    ambiorix April 16 2014 08: 18
    +27
    By the way, I would like to put in a word about the role of the Cossacks in the popular uprising in the East of Ukraine.
    I often hear from Russians criticism of the current Russian Cossacks. Like, the sense of them, they ate the belly, put on a dozen orders, every second chieftain or colonel, there’s also arrogance!
    But take the events in Donetsk and Lugansk. The majority of people involved in leadership and organization, as well as the backbone of armed self-defense, are representatives of the Don Cossacks of the Luhansk region and the Donbass. It was they who first rebelled and self-organized
    And this confirms the centuries-old traditions of the Cossacks. During the riots of Pugachev and Razin, it was the Cossacks who were the first to rise for their privileges, and only then did the hungry peasants join them. It was the Cossacks who led the process of uprisings and were the shock force of the rebel armies. History repeats itself. And I must say thank you that these people survived, who rebuffed all the legal cutters and other disadvantages.
  • ZU-23
    ZU-23 April 16 2014 08: 24
    +11
    For intervention, Russia needs serious battles, unfortunately of course.
    1. Corsair
      Corsair April 16 2014 08: 39
      +8
      Quote: ZU-23
      For intervention, Russia needs serious battles, unfortunately of course.

      Which itself implies BIG BLOOD ...
      Without sufficient grounds, until the moment when “enlightened Europe” does not catch its breath from the atrocities of the junta against the population, our hands are practically tied ...

      Otherwise we are aggressors ...

      And no one is able to predict until the end what the step of entering troops may result in, without reason (I want to be mistaken in this, and believe that we have ANALYTICS capable of "calculating") ...
      1. Zabvo
        Zabvo April 16 2014 09: 35
        +3
        Logically, you are right, but knowing Putin ... I would not be surprised if the "partners" begin to wag the DPRK's nerves in a serious way, or China begins to aggravate the issue on the islands. repeat
    2. Gomunkul
      Gomunkul April 16 2014 10: 04
      +10
      For intervention, Russia needs serious battles, unfortunately of course.
      The Americans are provoking us precisely to unauthorized entry of troops. Russia, on the other hand, can send its troops into the territory of Ukraine only with the permission of the UN Security Council or if the "Kiev junta" declares war on Russia, otherwise it will be an occupation. If you have noticed, our political leadership is trying to perform all its actions within the framework of international law. hi
      1. Serg 122
        Serg 122 April 16 2014 10: 53
        +2
        Shashniki sent their "experts" to Ukraine. What's stopping us? Further criticism and howl of the Westerners? We shouldn't give a damn about it! am
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  • VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN April 16 2014 08: 26
    +3
    Is this horror making law-bearers fight retired women and children?
    1. Corsair
      Corsair April 16 2014 08: 43
      +4
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      Is this horror making law-bearers fight retired women and children?

      Feral hatred of everything Russian, not wishing to accept their beliefs ...
  • 1961NNN
    1961NNN April 16 2014 08: 32
    +5
    The army will not fight ... their task is to block and block ... the dirty work will be shoved to the right-wingers ... the junta they are not needed ... their task is to play off the right-wingers with the southeast ...
  • Magyar
    Magyar April 16 2014 08: 32
    +10
    Russia will not enter the troops, this is what the USA and gay Europe are waiting for to accuse us of all mortal sins. Help will be expressed in information support, appeals to international organizations, although there is no sense in them sitting on Washington's salary. The peasants will have to rely only on themselves, there is no need to climb on the rampage, only partisan actions, checkpoints in this situation are just a target and no more when there is not even an elementary one. Only ambush actions, bit, quickly left, hid the weapon and to work. In the most difficult situation, Russia will help but only with weapons and intelligence, the border will not be a number of problems. Guys who have real experience of street fighting, discard the guy’s information in PM, I think it will not be superfluous. I wish the peasants in Ukraine to survive and save their lives. With Great Respect.
    1. mamont5
      mamont5 April 16 2014 08: 55
      +8
      Quote: Magyar
      Help will be expressed in information support, appeals to international organizations


      This is not enough. At least with weapons and ammunition to help the guys. And then it's time to organize the brigade.
    2. Altona
      Altona April 16 2014 09: 12
      +7
      Quote: Magyar
      Russia will not enter the troops, this is what the USA and gay Europe are waiting for to accuse us of all mortal sins. Help will be expressed in information support, appeals to international organizations, although there is no sense in them sitting on Washington's salary.

      __________________________
      International costs may turn out to be excessive, and yet it is not a fact that the majority of the population supports Russia as in Crimea ... Even 60 to 40 ... What will the remaining 40% do? Shoot in the back, shoot videos about the "occupiers", sniff about the movements and evolutions of Russian units?
      1. xan
        xan April 16 2014 15: 21
        +1
        Quote: Altona
        What will the remaining 40% do? Shoot in the back, shoot videos about the "occupiers", sniff about the movements and evolutions of Russian units?

        they won’t do anything.
        they are for those who win.
  • ispaniard
    ispaniard April 16 2014 08: 33
    +8
    All the same, TROUPCHINOV took human blood into his own hands ... The pastor is a Baptist ... He will be rewarded with him and T-scrotum and PARASHA-ENKO and Klitschko-Ochko and Yaytsenyuhu and Pour-Chenko. The most symbolic is that Judas betrayed Christ on the same day. All this junta will go down in the history of Ukraine as the Judas betrayed and slain their own people for 30 silver ... oh, sorry -dollars. P.S. The eternal shame of JUDAM of his own people! ..
    1. Serg 122
      Serg 122 April 16 2014 10: 57
      +1
      The most symbolic is that Judas betrayed Christ on the same day.
      At least it got paid! But "those who betrayed and slaughtered their own people" received only "US state guarantees." I mean horseradish with butter
  • sledge
    sledge April 16 2014 08: 34
    +17
    I foresee reproaches in my address, but still ....
    We do not have to fight for us, we ourselves will. Just banderlogov panicked fear from the phrase "Russian army", so we still hope for help from Russia.
    What kind of help are we talking about?
    Many are suitable on the streets, especially the older ones. “Why do you need this, you can endure a lot”
    Well, then what about Russia?
    2 Andrei777 - maybe there is already enough military hysteria, what contingent, on what basis? Do you personally take part in this, or let those who are currently in military service go?
    Ukrainians themselves must figure out their problems, perhaps through blood and pain (this is of course scary). My brother and his family live in Kiev, have friends, I am madly worried about them, but nevertheless, until the whole people of Ukraine rise, we have nothing to do there IMHO.
  • Per se.
    Per se. April 16 2014 08: 37
    +2
    We do not have to fight for us, we ourselves will. Just banderlogov panicked fear from the phrase "Russian army", so we still hope for help from Russia.
    Remind Vladimir Vladimirovich that we "do not abandon our own!", And there are many of ours in Ukraine, and Ukraine itself is not alien to us, it is the historical center of the Russian world, the original Russia, from which Russia began, the Russian world and its Orthodoxy. Why the hell, for what such broad gestures from the Crimea they decided to transfer military equipment to the junta, the unrecognized, self-styled government of American sixes, Russophobes, and just Bandera scoundrels ?! It would be better if it was presented to Assad, but by creating an alternative government "in exile" with Yanukovych, and would transfer equipment and ammunition to the militias of the southeast. Crimea did everything on its own, but our fleet was already there, with the southeast it is more and more difficult, what Putin can do and how, that is the question on which a lot depends.
    1. samoletil18
      samoletil18 April 16 2014 09: 35
      +2
      Quote: Per se.
      Remind Vladimir Vladimirovich that we "do not abandon our own!"

      17.04.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX. Communication between Russia and the Supreme Commander-in-Chief.
  • Lyokha79
    Lyokha79 April 16 2014 08: 40
    +2
    Will the so-called "authorities" of Ukraine ever understand that everything they do only splits the country? Will they understand how much grief and suffering they brought to the Ukrainians? The situation in the southeast is heating up. And in the current situation, the Russian authorities, in no case, should be in a fever. Now work is being carried out at the diplomatic level with the aim of influencing the owners of these TV and radio units that have settled in Kiev. There is no other way yet. Many of us want our Armed Forces to smash the "pravoseks" and take the situation under control. I wish that blood would not be shed. Believe me, I sincerely want this too, but in order for our troops to move to the territory of Ukraine, blood must be shed. It sounds cruel, very cruel, for there are human lives behind these words, but, unfortunately, there is no other way.
  • mamont5
    mamont5 April 16 2014 08: 51
    +17
    "The guys who died at the checkpoint were shot from a helicopter."

    What kind of pilots are these? Are these officers called? Find out the names of these reptiles. Eternal curse to them!

    "The only thing they are all afraid of, even to seizures, to diarrhea, is if the Russian army goes to Ukraine. If anyone in Russia could see how they are being ruined by the phrase" What will you do when the Russians come here to protect us? " I would understand that your army is very much appreciated. "

    And rightly afraid. For everything there will be a repayment.
    1. Gorinich
      Gorinich April 16 2014 10: 49
      +3
      Be sure to find out! Find out the names where they serve, where they live. And all this should become known to everyone ....
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  • Timmir
    Timmir April 16 2014 09: 08
    +7
    Special services of Russia should help with weapons, modern means of communication. And we can work with a vengeance, and help smart ideas. In the news, the sales of iPhones have increased, people’s blood on iPhones, you buy iPhones, you sponsor the war.
  • ed65b
    ed65b April 16 2014 09: 20
    +10
    mining region, where is the explosives from the opencasts? make landmines, mine intersections. Why is there no help from Lugansk? Procrastination of death is similar. loss of initiative is a loss. Yesterday, a member of the European Parliament correctly told the Hurley to sit in the SBU to develop the initiative.
    1. Mikros
      Mikros April 16 2014 16: 46
      0
      What are the land mines? People go to transfer equipment to the people and stay for themselves)) And they do it right. The main thugs from the Torn SS to neutralize.
  • saag
    saag April 16 2014 09: 28
    +5
    Quote: ed65b
    where is the explosives from the cuts?

    what cuts, is coal mined from a kilometer deep there
    1. ed65b
      ed65b April 16 2014 14: 27
      0
      Quote: saag
      Quote: ed65b
      where is the explosives from the cuts?

      what cuts, is coal mined from a kilometer deep there

      there seem to have been 4 cuts since the days of the USSR.
  • Neo1982
    Neo1982 April 16 2014 09: 38
    +5
    why in the Donetsk People’s Republic not to establish the production of anti-tank hedgehogs, because for that there is certainly everything after all, then it will be easier for Ukrainian soldiers: he ran into a hedgehog and that’s all, he’s free from further fighting.
  • Dreamer
    Dreamer April 16 2014 09: 44
    +2
    I am also interested in how long our boobs will be crumpled with the introduction of a peacekeeping contingent at the YUVU and help with the referendum. Or are they afraid of "suffocating" from the western "stench"?
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet April 16 2014 10: 12
      +6
      Quote: Dreamer
      I’m also interested in how long our boobs will be wrinkled with the introduction of the peacekeeping contingent

      Do you know how to separate two fighters? In 90% of cases, both still pile on. Of course, they will not pile up our Army, but there will be losses, and 100% will be declared guilty of all sins!
    2. ibragim
      ibragim April 16 2014 14: 14
      +1
      make simple anti-personnel slingshots you’ll crawl all over. And scatter where goats are waiting from the Maidan.
  • Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya April 16 2014 09: 46
    +4
    Quote: Aeneas
    And you start to say, like, who is better for power, Bandera or Putin, even those who call Putin “putler” agree that it is better than him. Yes, a lot of nonsense.This is really starting to sound like nonsense, because Stepan Andreevich has already died about 60 years ago, and Vladimir Vladimirovich is more alive than all living things, in good health and, as they say, "blooms and smells."

    And this fascist scum, even after his patronymic, he and the household name are many!
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt April 16 2014 13: 10
      +2
      Immediately visible judge on people's assessors. I did not understand how he legalized. Was there an emergency congress of the South-East of Ukraine with its legitimately elected representatives. Yes, it seems, and the general is somehow not quite an officer. There is a catastrophic lack of information.
  • Leshka
    Leshka April 16 2014 09: 56
    0
    at least introduce peacekeepers
  • paramon
    paramon April 16 2014 10: 03
    +7
    Hold on, Boys.
    "do what you must, and there be what will be."
  • Freemason
    Freemason April 16 2014 10: 19
    -1
    Russians have always been afraid. And here we are sitting and waiting for the team ...
  • ispaniard
    ispaniard April 16 2014 10: 21
    +2
    THANKS TO GOD THAT WE HAVE USED TO SAVE THE CRIMEA! Protecting him from the horror that is now unfolding in Ukraine recourse ... PS, There was a small hope that the "Maidanutaya junta" would not dare to raise a hand against its own people in the Southeast, BUT we thought too well of creatures in human form ...
    1. sv68
      sv68 April 16 2014 11: 00
      +1
      well, there’s no need to take away the rest of the land, to save people from future racial purges and other nightmares of occupation
  • Leader
    Leader April 16 2014 10: 23
    +1
    There is no single center, no coordination, no action plan ... - bad.
    There is an Internet, mobile communication with sympathizers in Russia is a plus.
    No weapons - very bad.
    But for partisan actions, there are enough available means. One "Molotov cocktail" is a formidable weapon in the city. Knowledgeable people can tell "what" and "from what" you can quickly build, mix, design ...
    But success requires a clear goal and objectives, one-man management and cohesion, discipline and readiness!
    Break the city into squares, organize shifts; encourage every resident to film any changes in the environment and the faces of those who engage in suspicious activities; inform everyone of a single phone where you can report the situation on the streets; have a group of "negotiators" and a group of "force support"; estimate an action plan for typical situations; organize a place for collecting food for those on duty at the posts ... - etc.
    A command post, a single phone, and a few lightweight cars will help to organize the organization.
    Lack of plan, communication, and fragmentation leads to defeat ...
  • Zhenya
    Zhenya April 16 2014 10: 25
    +1
    Unfortunately, if Russia intervenes now, the 3rd World War may begin, with all that it implies. It is beneficial for the United States to draw Russia into the Ukrainian crisis to the fullest, then there is a lot of shit, and you can gobble up Syria and Iran, while Russia solves issues at hand.
    1. Gorinich
      Gorinich April 16 2014 10: 52
      +1
      It is already on, and this must be understood first.
    2. oldy
      oldy April 16 2014 11: 17
      +2
      If about the predictions of Baba Vanga, then "Syria has not yet fallen," and there government troops are already squeezing the militants ...
      They squeezed Crimea without a fight and there will be no war in the Donbas, the population will separate from the banderologists by soft power, the army and police will go over to the side of the people, a referendum will be held and the Southeast Republic will enter the Customs Union voluntarily !!! But NATO will wipe the snot .... the truth is sanctions, but we won’t survive anything!
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 April 16 2014 11: 57
        +3
        Quote: oldy
        If about the predictions of Baba Vanga, then "Syria has not yet fallen"

        Here is her prediction:
  • parusnik
    parusnik April 16 2014 10: 37
    +1
    Quote: Aeneas
    for Stepan Andreevich is already about 60 years old

    But his work lives on, and as can be seen from the events that take place, there are a lot of grandchildren and great-grandchildren, faithful followers of Stepan Andreyevich .. and even fanatical ones ..
  • Magadan
    Magadan April 16 2014 10: 44
    +3
    Only the active participation of ordinary citizens will lead to victory. The actions of the partisans are exclusively targeted. With the full support of the local population. The junta will either be punitive like Hitler, or try in every possible way to please the local population. In the first scenario, the West simply shuts up, Russia first introduces a "no-fly zone" plus it will destroy artillery and everything that "can lead to mass death of civilians." Even the troops will not enter. In the second scenario, the people press further on the referendum, and then the junta is pressurized by the right-wing people so that there is no referendum.
  • Russ69
    Russ69 April 16 2014 11: 04
    +2
    Kramatorsk city center ....


    And there were such messages ... We are waiting for further information ...
  • Balalaikin
    Balalaikin April 16 2014 11: 06
    +4
    Donetsk, Lugansk, Kharkov, Odessa and other cities of the southeast - all this is certainly good, but the JUNT in Kiev, and all this mess will be as long as she sits there. Russia needs to help organize a trip to Kiev with Yanyk. Residents of southeastern Ukraine will deliver it there themselves and smash the remnants of the SS, the junta will run away at the first opportunity, after which everything will fall into place ...
    1. Georgs
      Georgs April 16 2014 13: 10
      +1
      Quote: Balalaikin
      Donetsk, Lugansk, Kharkov, Odessa and other cities of the southeast - all this is certainly good, but the JUNT in Kiev, and all this mess will be as long as she sits there. Russia needs to help organize a trip to Kiev with Yanyk. Residents of southeastern Ukraine will deliver it there themselves and smash the remnants of the SS, the junta will run away at the first opportunity, after which everything will fall into place ...

      Sure sure! And then how to rake the world srach? We, joyfully rubbing our paws, stumble across the borders of the nucleus of a rocket and there will be a life for us at gunpoint. Step right - step left click on the button without warning.
    2. Georgs
      Georgs April 16 2014 13: 10
      0
      Quote: Balalaikin
      Donetsk, Lugansk, Kharkov, Odessa and other cities of the southeast - all this is certainly good, but the JUNT in Kiev, and all this mess will be as long as she sits there. Russia needs to help organize a trip to Kiev with Yanyk. Residents of southeastern Ukraine will deliver it there themselves and smash the remnants of the SS, the junta will run away at the first opportunity, after which everything will fall into place ...

      Sure sure! And then how to rake the world srach? We, joyfully rubbing our paws, stumble across the borders of the nucleus of a rocket and there will be a life for us at gunpoint. Step right - step left click on the button without warning.
  • GRune
    GRune April 16 2014 11: 07
    +1
    Ostrich policy! New term for note. Article +
  • federal
    federal April 16 2014 11: 24
    +1
    Putin made it clear that joining the southeast to Russia is not being considered. It is necessary to help, but implicitly, so that the West does not deal with saliva at the mouth that we are occupiers. Instructor, coordination of actions + the whole set of partisan struggle.
  • Sashka
    Sashka April 16 2014 11: 27
    +9
    Guys, good day to all! For the second day in a row, from morning until late at night, we circled planes. Specifically, I am observing from the Kanevsky district of the Krasnodar Territory. About 100 km from Yeysk, i.e. northwest K.K. As if nothing new, I watched once more than once the Su-25, L-39, still Yeysk and Primorsk-Akhtarsk were nearby. But the second day, representatives of other classes are already flying. Moreover, as I understand it on super sound (I could be wrong, because not a connoisseur). The roar is terrible, the glass is shaking. Moreover, it is low pass. Again, not a connoisseur, but as it seemed, the Su-24 was flying (it was identified by different sweep of the wing at different speed modes, well, by its silhouette), Su-27 ??? (in silhouette), and SU-34 (its flattened nose is difficult to confuse). Already by the sound I determine whether it flies high or low. I'm sitting at work, I heard a roar, I went to smoke! laughing Nice however !!! And the figures do different! When the sound is not big, such a whistling noise means low, you can even see that the suspensions (I don't know with what) are taking place. And when it rumbles with a howl, it circles high, turns over, makes all kinds of loops. Probably a coincidence with the beginning of the "counterterrorism" in Ukraine. PURE coincidence.
  • mirexes
    mirexes April 16 2014 11: 28
    +4
    Let us soberly assess the situation, until people begin to perish en masse, Russia does not begin to help with its army, do you really think Russia will send its troops out of 4-11 armed men killed? if you really think that Russia should bring in its troops from 4-11 then ask yourself a question and if for example 4-11 Chinese are killed in Russia on the border with China, then China should also send its army to Russia to protect the Chinese. This should be well understood by those who are now opposed to banderlogs, it’s better to prepare a good plan to repulse the attack, otherwise they’ve closed in the building and they’re satisfied, but you’re not the only ones who carry equipment, a couple of shots and everything in the building, and who are dead the buildings are alive and no one has a claim. You can put at least as many minuses, but from this it will not cease to be true
  • GRIGORIY76
    GRIGORIY76 April 16 2014 11: 30
    +1
    Hang on guys, every day now tears the junta from the inside ... Not long left
  • Tektor
    Tektor April 16 2014 11: 31
    +3
    The next 10 days will be decisive in the conflict in Ukraine: if the Donetsk Republic persists, then others will follow its example ... And the defenders of Donbass need to remember that fuel is needed for equipment: there will be no fuel and lubricant equipment will not go anywhere ... The soldiers need to eat, and there will be no grubbing - the soldier will send his superior in all the known directions ... Well, the ammunition: it must be taken away or destroyed ... All by peaceful means ... Well, the lack of ammunition or fuel and lubricants is the most powerful argument for servicemen to skimp on actions. ..
  • Russ69
    Russ69 April 16 2014 11: 31
    +2
    The radio channel says that on the BMD that entered Kramatorsk, the flags of the DNB and the Russian Federation were posted. The people really say that the flag of the Russian Federation is better to take off.
    But while talking, I hope there will be confirmation ...
    1. calculator
      calculator April 16 2014 11: 40
      0
      Yes, according to Life News, the correspondent was saying now.
    2. Cynic
      Cynic April 16 2014 16: 27
      0
      Quote: Russ69
      But while talking, I hope there will be confirmation ...

      It’s bad when only rumors operational nobody will share information.
      Flags of the Russian Federation and DNB are good, but there were precedents ...
  • Cristall
    Cristall April 16 2014 11: 48
    +2

    Kiev and local maydanuty - hysteria even in Odessa.
    One speech of Lutsyuk in the video - "zaslin" (apparently the barrier in Ukrainian wanted to say) - remembered Azarov (Azirov) --- such nonsense ... that you cease to be surprised.
    According to the head of the Center for Military-Political Research, representative of the Information Resistance group, Dmitry Tymchuk, the army is preparing a defense in case of landing of Russian troops from Crimea.
    you look here
    http://kp.ua/daily/150414/448547/
    http://www.bagnet.org/news/accidents/237369
    Well, here is a masterpiece
    http://poragovorit.com/news/item/11364-odesskiy-antimaydan-zaplaniroval-na-segod
    nya-zahvat-vlasti.html
  • dmb
    dmb April 16 2014 11: 50
    +1
    Dear Roman. I understand that emotions overwhelm us and it is very difficult to drop them. But let's try. The saddest thing is that our brothers sincerely believe in our help. And I personally am not sure that it will follow. Our government (as well as any other) has its own "hawks" and "doves". On the one hand, Lavrov has already announced that our government will not be delighted with the annexation of the eastern regions. The introduction of troops completely negates all the previous talk about our desire to preserve the "independent" one. On the other hand, in my opinion, even a publicly announced intention to send troops in the event of an attempt by Kiev to organize a massacre could well have cooled their bad heads. However, this is not done. It’s not very good if this is done to push the parties to an armed conflict, and it’s really bad if in this case we just stay on the sidelines. Rent (taking into account Lavrov) that the second option awaits us. By the way, the majority of our population will support him, because knocking on the keyboard and waving flags on the squares in Krasnoyarsk and Moscow is one thing, and putting one's forehead under bullets near Lugansk is somewhat different. Your Ukrainian interlocutor also speaks about the presence of a large number of those who are ready to "endure everything", and we have not less, but much more
  • hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh April 16 2014 11: 51
    +3
    Quote: Ruswolf
    He speaks correctly!
    Want victory, stop anarchy!
    One centralized power! One policy! Coordination of action!
    An organized nation is no longer a crowd! This is a political force!

    And correct the slogans for a while. To comply with human rights requirements.
    "I want to speak my native language!" "I am forbidden to speak Russian." "Soldiers in the barracks" "Ukraine is united" and the flags of Ukraine, the European Union and America on the barricades. Let all the flags flash on all channels. The local people will have a lot of questions: "who wants what?" And it will be very interesting to look when the soldiers go to the attack on buildings with Ukrainian flags. The picture is awesome.
    The mood and goals are already clear, now we need to win the information war.
    And correspondents to talk about gratitude to the American and European people for the financial. Money has not yet been seen, but a promise has been heard.
    And more English speech behind the scenes)))
    1. Cynic
      Cynic April 16 2014 12: 26
      +1
      Quote: hhhhhhh
      Yes, and it will be very interesting to look when soldiers attack buildings with Ukrainian flags. Awesome picture.

      And they already go, when showing all tip-top _ Ukrainian (Donetsk Republic) flags are not, only Russian.
      It's here _
      http://topwar.ru/44098-pismo-molodoy-donchanki-teper-ya-znayu-kak-pishutsya-novo
      sti-i-istoriya.html
      Letter from a young Donetsk woman: now I know how to write news and history

      And are you so naive?
  • Border guard
    Border guard April 16 2014 12: 18
    +4
    "... The Russian army is really feared here by the military and the scumbags ..."
    It's nice to hear that). No wonder they are in all the media only about the Russian Army and they say))