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Is the war of the elites starting?

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The war of elites, unlike the previous period, can take on the most acute forms, said Konstantin Sivkov, president of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems, said


Is the war of the elites starting?


A group of deputies of the State Duma of Russia has come up with an initiative to appeal to the Prosecutor General of Russia with a proposal to conduct a prosecutor's check on events related to the collapse of the USSR. It is proposed to pay special attention to the role of MS Gorbachev. and the illegal authority created by it - the State Council of the USSR. It is assumed that as a result of this test a criminal case may be initiated against the former President of the USSR. It is especially symptomatic that among the initiators of this appeal were representatives of all factions of the State Duma, with the exception of “Fair Russia”, and one of the main initiators was a deputy from the “United Russia” E.Fyodorov. Why did they suddenly decide to turn to so old times? Why are representatives of United Russia taking an active part in this matter? You involuntarily start asking yourself these and other questions when such a topic suddenly rises in the State Duma under conditions that are very difficult for the country due to the deterioration of Russia's relations with the West. Many believe that this is an attempt by individual deputies to "push off". Others put forward even more mundane hypotheses.

However, if you look back, everything is far from being so random.

Even the President of Russia, Vladimir Putin, in his speech on the occasion of the return to Crimea of ​​Russia, noted that the West threatens us with a revolution, the main instrument of which may be the notorious “fifth column” in Russian society.

The performance (quite unexpected for the audience and, judging by the behavior, for the presenter) by one of the most prominent figures of our cinema art and, at the same time, very close to the power of a man, film director Nikita Mikhalkov, was very indicative. Speaking in the program of V. Solovyov, he expressed a number of very accurate and timely thoughts. So he pointed out that Russia's progress along the path of re-industrialization is impossible without getting rid of the burden of the past, primarily the legacy of the destructive 90's. To do this, it is finally necessary to call things by their own names, in particular, the destruction of the USSR to be recognized as a crime against all peoples inhabiting it. Privatization of industry with its subsequent destruction and strategic resources should also be recognized as an act of extreme injustice. As a source of a serious threat to the national security and integrity of the country, he noted a monstrous income gap between the elite and the majority of the Russian population. Answering the moderator’s question about whether these actions are not a mistake, he quoted one of the well-known Soviet leaders: “Every mistake has its first name, surname and patronymic name”.

That is, this step was preceded by quite specific information training, which means that it is only one of the probably prepared set of events. Some key positions of this complex at the level of objectives were outlined in N. M. Mikhalkov’s striking speech, probably to guide allies and thinking people.

The liberal public was immediately alarmed. There was talk in the media that it was not worthwhile to stir up the past, why bother the old and sick person, who already does not influence politics, why exacerbate the situation in the country, etc. However, the most perspicacious began to frighten those who, along with Gorbachev, could inevitably attract others. But even this probably did not concern our guardians for "democracy" and "freedom." It became obvious to them that this was only the beginning of large-scale transformations in the country.

In his speech, V.Putin set the task of defeating (or neutralizing, as you like) the “fifth column”, N. Mikhalkov revealed some particular tasks, the solution of which would achieve this. And the initiation of proceedings on the fact of the unlawful destruction of the USSR is the first step towards the realization of a large scenario. After all, in order to justify the practical steps to eliminate agents of influence from the authorities, an appropriate regulatory framework is necessary. Without its creation it is impossible to knock out a material basis from under the “fifth column” by means of large-scale nationalization of strategic resources. For this it is necessary to recognize the illegality of the privatization of 90-x. And this, in turn, can be done only after the recognition of the Yeltsin coup d'etat of 93 as criminal.

Without recognition on the basis of a full-fledged procuratorial investigation of the fact of the destruction of the USSR as a grave crime against all the peoples inhabiting it, it is impossible to renounce the ideological legacy of the 90s.

The current Russian authorities are not objectively responsible for the crimes of 90-x. However, for a new breakthrough in Russia, it must free itself from this burden in the moral, political and legal sense, to break with the past.

Naturally, we should expect response. "Fifth Column" is very strong and influential. The most effective direction for it may be the destabilization of the socio-political situation in the country, the aggravation of the economic situation. The first signs of the beginning of active actions in this direction are already visible. So, in some media, materials began to slip about the impending transition to a new method of calculating the cost of energy resources, which could increase the monthly expenses of an ordinary family for electricity by 600-800 rubles. Suddenly, the forecast of Russia's development was sharply lowered from 2,6% per year to less than 1% or even zero. All these steps directly lead to a deterioration in the standard of living of the population or to justify steps in this direction. And then (remember the end of 80-x, when deficiencies on necessaries were artificially created) mass discontent with power and social instability.

Thus, the two groups of the political elite of Russia began preparations for attacking each other, which, judging by the nature of the first events, will be very powerful and decisive. True, as it happened before, due to the close interconnectedness of both groups, developmental conflict may not be obtained. However, taking into account the sharpness of the confrontation of the Russian and Western elites against the background of the Ukrainian crisis, as well as the reduction of the “field” for compromises in these conditions, the war of elite groups, unlike the previous period, will likely take very sharp forms.

So, in this initiative of the State Duma deputies, the flashes of the new Russian revolution are already visible — either “from above” with the elimination of the “fifth column”, abandoning the crimes of the past and nationalization of strategic resources, or “from below” when liberals-Westerners release the genie of mass protest against the street.
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  1. givargi
    givargi April 16 2014 15: 49
    +9
    NATO must die, or the world will die!
    1. Uncle
      Uncle April 16 2014 15: 51
      +4
      Quote: givargi
      NATO must die

      Are you Georgian After the war, 08,08,08 such statements are surprising.
      1. givargi
        givargi April 16 2014 16: 07
        +35
        Ya Gruzin. Zapad travit Gruziu na Rossiu uzhe bolee 30 let, no ya i mnogie Gruziny ne xotyat chtob nash narod stali rabami GeiFashistov i bankirov Wall Street.
        1. Uncle
          Uncle April 16 2014 17: 24
          +2
          Quote: givargi
          no ya i mnogie Gruziny ne xotyat chtob nash narod stali rabami GeiFashistov i bankirov Wall Street

          Thank God that you and many understand this.
      2. Alexstalker
        Alexstalker April 16 2014 16: 19
        +1
        it is necessary to drive Natsik from Russia
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 April 16 2014 17: 28
          +4
          Quote: AlexStalker
          it is necessary to drive Natsik from Russia

          Especially not a titular nation. laughing
      3. Alexstalker
        Alexstalker April 16 2014 16: 19
        0
        it is necessary to drive Natsik from Russia
    2. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru April 16 2014 17: 18
      0
      Quote: givargi
      NATO must die, or the world will die!

      Yes! God Сhastise America!
      1. Ased
        Ased April 16 2014 17: 56
        +2
        Quote: 11111mail.ru
        Even the President of Russia, Vladimir Putin, in his speech on the occasion of the return to Crimea of ​​Russia, noted that the West threatens us with a revolution, the main instrument of which may be the notorious “fifth column” in Russian society.


        The fifth column should be well, very careful, so that there was no need to transplant them. But there is ... :)))
  2. Signaller
    Signaller April 16 2014 15: 49
    +7
    Type-Hand washes a hand, it certainly can be, but it all depends on the conductor. If there was an unlawful possession of property, then there must be consequences. The state was damaged, that means the investigation will show it was not, but without even condemning the brow, you can tell him you were a THIEF. It costs a lot. To the oligarch to say that he is a thief, and then to spread it around the world. WASN'T WASHER NEVER. Will is only needed.
    1. andj61
      andj61 April 16 2014 16: 05
      +7
      That's right, - the thief should sit - but he must first be called a thief. People have long called them thieves, but with them, like water off a goose. The will of the leader of the country, fulfilling the aspirations of the people. And God forbid that enough will.
      1. jjj
        jjj April 16 2014 16: 11
        +6
        Quote: andj61
        but he must first be called a thief

        but he must first be recognized as a thief
  3. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN April 16 2014 15: 50
    +6
    Michal Sergeich already wrote! He proposed to dissolve the Duma lol
    1. Klepa
      Klepa April 16 2014 16: 22
      +7
      There has been talk in the media that it’s not worth stirring up the past, why bother an old and sick person who does not influence politics anyway, why aggravate the situation in the country, etc.

      Gorbachev is a MEMBER of the BILDELBERG CLUB. And this s * ka is directly trying to influence the policy of the Russian Federation and to spoil it. It's time to judge him.
      AND TAKE A GOVERNMENTAL REWARD!
      1. max702
        max702 April 16 2014 18: 26
        +2
        She should be invited to her homeland and solemnly exchanged one award for another .. for hemp ..
    2. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru April 16 2014 17: 20
      +2
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      Michal Sergeich already wrote!

      Gleb Zheglov (V.S. Vysotsky) _ And now Brokeback!
  4. Uncle
    Uncle April 16 2014 15: 50
    +13
    It is necessary to get to Gorbachev. To judge how the accomplices of the Nazis, executioners, Nazi criminals were judged, how terrorists are found after years. Nothing that the old, sick with a shaking head, such earthly retribution is an overture to the retribution of heaven. Russia is not just a country, it is the lot of the Mother of God and such a dunking in the mud, perhaps, would have taken place in Ethiopia or Zimbabwe, but not here. Perhaps he will not live to see the trial, but until the end of his meaningless days he will hide from the flock and wake up in sweat with the thought that Putin’s security officers are abducting him ...
    1. zao74
      zao74 April 16 2014 16: 02
      +9
      With all my heart I hate the scum that ruined my Homeland. I would not regret the last teeth, just to cling to the labeled throat ...
      1. Alexstalker
        Alexstalker April 16 2014 16: 18
        -1
        and if they have no teeth
      2. Alexstalker
        Alexstalker April 16 2014 16: 18
        -1
        and if they have no teeth
        1. elenanikolaevna
          elenanikolaevna April 17 2014 17: 11
          0
          I do not bite, so I suck.
      3. dmitriygorshkov
        dmitriygorshkov April 16 2014 16: 28
        +3
        Quote: zao74
        With all my heart I hate the scum that ruined my Homeland.

        It is important here not to evaluate (condemn) specific individuals, but to evaluate the process itself.
        Or we consider the collapse of the USSR as democratic transformations, or a crime against the peoples! Based on this assessment and action on the further course of the country!
        Here, the goal itself is not to blame Mishka-labeled and jump on his bones, but to evaluate the process in order to move on!
        And to the Swordman, I think, they create an exclusive pan!
        In the nightmare that is happening in Ukraine, there is his considerable contribution!
    2. 225chay
      225chay April 16 2014 16: 28
      +5
      Quote: Uncle
      It is necessary to get to Gorbachev. To judge how the accomplices of the Nazis, executioners, Nazi criminals were judged, how terrorists are found after years. Nothing old

      Pull out and return all the freaks involved in the collapse of the USSR and humpback, Yakovlev, Shivarnadze, migrants, etc. Judge, execute publicly in the square!
      Then the Yeltsin gang ...
      1. Klepa
        Klepa April 16 2014 16: 34
        +3
        and CLOSE ALL URODIAN ORGANIZATIONS, TYPE OF RAIN AND ECHO MOSCOW, EVEN EVEN IN THE INTERNET, NOT MADTED. CITIZENSHIP AND EVERYONE SHOULD BE DEPRIVED.
      2. 0603
        0603 April 16 2014 16: 35
        +4
        Yakovlev managed to put on bots ... sorry.
    3. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 April 16 2014 17: 33
      +1
      Quote: Uncle
      It is necessary to get to Gorbachev.

      +, but will not give. He is in permanent residence in Germany, if recognized as a traitor, they will make him a banner of those who disagree with the regime, and a street will be named after him. Although hell with them, they pi ... they march through the streets, and Gorbachev Street will be their favorite. laughing
      1. Uncle
        Uncle April 16 2014 17: 49
        +1
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        but they won’t give it back.

        It is not known how the circumstances are. Firstly, you can exchange for someone, and secondly, you can not give them their criminals as a reminder. Diplomats will find moves if there would be political will.
    4. optimist
      optimist April 16 2014 21: 11
      +1
      Quote: Uncle
      that Putin’s KGB officers are abducting him ...

      They had 15 long years for this ... Some kind of "unhurried" security officers! laughing As you know, a raven will not peck at anything. Those people who brought the GDP to power at one time, probably foresaw the option of getting it out of control. I didn't want to get involved in rainbow "urya-patriotic" quarrels, but alas, I could not resist ... With the help of the current "khokhlosrach", the West set up Russia, just as it did exactly 100 years ago. It's a shame that many did not understand this ...
  5. rodiy2007
    rodiy2007 April 16 2014 15: 52
    +11
    Everything is correct, the time has come to give an adequate assessment of the events that have taken place, led by Mikhail Gorbachev, not for the purpose of "PR" or revenge, but for the purpose of historical justice.
  6. individual
    individual April 16 2014 15: 53
    +8
    The flashes of the past fire - the collapse of the USSR are reflected in modern Russia.
    Attempts to hold accountable rests on specific names
    These figurants are involved in all "levels" of Russia's governance and will not allow taking measures against themselves, and this is the modern elite and this must be reckoned with.
  7. Fornit
    Fornit April 16 2014 15: 54
    +7
    There is something in this ... However, it seems that the "fifth column" is winning so far - at the same time people will be milked out during major repairs, civil liability insurance on housing, land tax payment - this is even greater impoverishment against the background of rapid inflation and, accordingly, general dissatisfaction of the majority of the population with the economic course of those in power ...
    By a gesture of goodwill of supporters of statehood, one must admit the immediate arrest (until he escaped) of Chubais and the demolition of the monuments to Yeltsin and Gai-don ... Well, the Presidential Decree on the inviolability of the family, of course, to the furnace ...
  8. DimYang
    DimYang April 16 2014 15: 55
    +4
    Without recognition on the basis of a full-fledged procuratorial investigation of the fact of the destruction of the USSR as a grave crime against all the peoples inhabiting it, it is impossible to renounce the ideological legacy of the 90s.


    It just needs to be done.

    “Each mistake has its own name, surname and patronymic.”

    Hang up do not outweigh. To the stupid liberals it will only begin to get what is happening, but here bam - WELCOME TO THE COURT AND FOR THE GALLERY. The people have not forgotten anything.
  9. Consul-t
    Consul-t April 16 2014 15: 55
    +4
    My opinion is that it is necessary to reconsider the deeds of the "great" people of our country, who, willingly or unwillingly, have caused damage to the country. Until all this is covered with the moss of time and cannot be interpreted in their favor. The legend is still fresh in the memory.
    And Gorbachev should get what he deserves and understand that in this country there are no people who respect him. Let him descend to earth and receive complete contempt of the people.
    1. Fornit
      Fornit April 16 2014 16: 02
      +4
      Quote: Consul-t
      Gorbachev should get what he deserves and understand that in this country there are no people who respect him

      Why not, yes. Medvedev, as President, awarded him the highest order of Russia ... They still have not withdrawn the award, by the way ...
  10. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 April 16 2014 15: 56
    +2
    I have long written and talked about our fifth column. It is necessary to tighten the criminal code in relation to them. In RUSSIA we do not need a mess. They must be fought in the most decisive way. GLORY TO RUSSIA.
  11. zao74
    zao74 April 16 2014 15: 56
    +1
    Can I really live up to this ... It is hard to believe, but, as they say, hope is a tenacious aunt.
    1. dimdimich71
      dimdimich71 April 16 2014 16: 09
      +1
      And what we experienced-the collapse of the USSR survived and the more the rebirth will meet with a bang!
  12. Ivan Petrovich
    Ivan Petrovich April 16 2014 15: 58
    +2
    Stalin is not enough for this "elita"
  13. Siberian 1975
    Siberian 1975 April 16 2014 15: 59
    +4
    Bara fight, at lackeys forelocks fly. But if the fifth column is really soaked in the toilet, and many enterprises nationalize and return the country, along with taxes, and restore and modernize the destroyed ones, then I agree and tolerate.
  14. Ev58
    Ev58 April 16 2014 15: 59
    +3
    If this one day does not happen, the people of our country will live with the realization that once again the nation has been put on its knees, torn and thrown face down into the mud. This step will not change history (in life it is impossible to change anything at all, not a single moment can be restored or changed), but it will somewhat alleviate internal tension, since the authorities still do not recognize this fact as criminal in relation to the nation and country.
  15. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 April 16 2014 16: 04
    +4
    If you do not curb the "reformers" from liber / A / sts, who, not only have raked EVERYTHING OF THE PEOPLE for themselves, continue to shit on the people, they will bring the country to an "explosion" if they are not stopped.
    It seems that the CIA set this task for them, because as soon as a liberal, look for connections with the CIA or the FBI, and you will find ...
    1. Fornit
      Fornit April 16 2014 16: 10
      +3
      Exactly...
      And here’s another paradox - why, with the declared increase in support for small and medium-sized businesses, a land tax is introduced ...
  16. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa April 16 2014 16: 08
    +3
    Maybe they also hang a spotted one, I would like to see it.
  17. 0603
    0603 April 16 2014 16: 09
    +4
    All the same, I hope that Gorbachev will be hanged, but it will be hanged ....
    1. Siberian 1975
      Siberian 1975 April 16 2014 16: 16
      +1
      On the count, and only on the count. am
  18. Submarine B-41
    Submarine B-41 April 16 2014 16: 10
    +12
    If Putin decides to raise and bring this topic to its logical end, then the eternal GLORY to him and monuments throughout the country! And a lifetime presidency!
    1. ia-ai00
      ia-ai00 April 16 2014 16: 32
      +1
      I don’t understand at what basis the West and the USA indicate who and how many times can be the president of Russia. How many people consider it necessary, so many times let him rule the country.
      Let them DICTATE and SHAKE RIGHTS, why Russia should LOOK LOOK: - "what people will say" ... but let them say anything, it is necessary to do so that it would be good for RUSSIA, and not for "Uncle SAM".
      What good is it that Mendel "sat in a chair"? He and in the GOVERNMENT - NO PLACE!
      1. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru April 16 2014 17: 28
        +4
        Quote: ia-ai00
        What good is that Mendel "sat in the chair"

        Mendel-Pendel, and his place at the bucket.
    2. Barakuda
      Barakuda April 16 2014 16: 51
      +1
      George Potemkin will only say thank you and wave next!
  19. Alexstalker
    Alexstalker April 16 2014 16: 17
    -1
    GDP with DAM hrn.ё.y suffer
    1. 0603
      0603 April 16 2014 16: 20
      +1
      In the wake of such a huge patriotism, it may well ride if he wants
  20. jjj
    jjj April 16 2014 16: 19
    +1
    Of course, everything should be arranged on the shelves. Nobody is forgotten and nothing is forgotten. And it will be rewarded. But the idea now, when we are on the verge of war, of any large-scale nationwide "purges" will not lead to anything good. This will knock the people's spirit from the goal of gathering and development to the goal of fragmentation and settling accounts. This will lead to collapse. You can still "endure" the five-year injustice of the past. But the future cannot be lost
    1. Alexstalker
      Alexstalker April 16 2014 16: 20
      -1
      how much can you endure!?!?
    2. Alexstalker
      Alexstalker April 16 2014 16: 20
      -1
      how much can you endure!?!?
    3. SHOCK.
      SHOCK. April 16 2014 18: 32
      0
      Quote: jjj
      Of course, everything should be arranged on the shelves. Nobody is forgotten and nothing is forgotten. And it will be rewarded. But the idea now, when we are on the verge of war, of any large-scale nationwide "purges" will not lead to anything good. This will knock the people's spirit from the goal of gathering and development to the goal of fragmentation and settling accounts. This will lead to collapse. You can still "endure" the five-year injustice of the past. But the future cannot be lost

      Well, about the war, it’s said too much, I think it won’t come to that. And the fifth column should be pressed to the nail, otherwise at the most inopportune moment a knife will be inserted between the shoulder blades.
  21. Frate
    Frate April 16 2014 16: 26
    +4
    What do all Medvedev often remember? Medvedev - zero, nothing! A technical element in laying down Putin's long term. I am happy for Crimea, but to celebrate, we should not forget about those whom Putin promised and ensured immunity. Forgot who brought him to the palace? You were told - "war of the elites". Nothing will happen to Gorbachev. Even, I am surprised at such irresponsibility of United Russia. After all, if they begin to stir up this scum, then such a stench will rise, from which the current government will not be washed away. Gorbachev is rubbish. A weak pull on the Yeltsin family? And nothing that our members of the government teach their children in hostile countries? And they catch fish with the president, sporting a NATO uniform. Even without stripping the chevrons. The fish is fat, and the water is muddy ...
  22. Stasi
    Stasi April 16 2014 16: 27
    +3
    It is necessary to call a spade a spade, as well as to bring to justice all those who stood behind the collapse of the USSR and managed to cash in on it, as well as to put together political capital that allowed them to creep into power. The only question is whether together with us the peoples of the former Soviet republics will be able to recognize the collapse of the USSR as a crime, whether they want to do it. Indeed, if you admit, it means you should unite again and create a single country. And whether the peoples of the former Soviet republics, and especially the elites who govern them, want this - a big question. I doubt very much that national elites will want to abandon the opportunities that they received in connection with the collapse of the Union. After the collapse, they turned from party officials into presidents, ministers, bankers, in order to become such people, they went to the collapse of the USSR. The most important opportunity that national elites have sought is the ability to control the wealth of their republics uncontrollably without looking back at Moscow or anyone else. And to refuse all this by going to the creation of a new Union - no, they won’t go for it.
  23. shtanko.49
    shtanko.49 April 16 2014 16: 27
    +3
    Quote: VNP1958PVN
    Michal Sergeich already wrote! He proposed to dissolve the Duma lol

    Without understanding the past betrayal, it is impossible to build a worthy future. And the fight against corruption must also be started from the 90s. You can’t deceive a deceived people into the country's breakthrough in the development of industry, culture, education and patriotism.
  24. KaKaDu
    KaKaDu April 16 2014 16: 34
    +3
    I read and cry.

    Develop industry? Invest in real production, and not in the extraction / sale of raw materials? Get off an oil needle? No, we don’t need all this now. It turns out that we need to conduct a prosecutor’s investigation and call Gorbach a criminal! Planting, essno, will not work, it will be over the hill for a long time, but it doesn’t matter, life will get better all at once.

    And also, essno, it is necessary to extinguish the fifth column. As you know, it includes all those who do not like GDP or DAM or do not like it enough. After all, it is obvious that the one who doesn’t like GDP wants the collapse of Russia, revolution and all that. And even if our leaders impose an air tax, they must still be loved. And those who do not, or, even worse, decide to protest - extinguish, for the fifth column!

    The Fifth Column is very strong and influential. The most effective direction for it may be the destabilization of the socio-political situation in the country, the aggravation of the economic situation. The first signs of the beginning of active actions in this direction are already visible. So, in some media, materials began to slip about the upcoming transition to a new methodology for calculating the cost of energy resources, which could increase the average monthly expenses of an ordinary family for electricity by 600-800 rubles ...

    Generally lovely. All the more or less significant media we have under the control of the authorities and the most beloved party. Something can slip in there only with the permission of the leaders. The fifth column can express itself unless in small, small-town newspaper newspapers that no one reads.

    In total, we have another session of simulating violent activity (like the recently declared war on corruption): once again we will look at the past, once again we will look for the guilty, once again there will be exactly zero benefits for ordinary people from this.
  25. 0603
    0603 April 16 2014 16: 37
    +3
    The echoes of matzah need not be closed, there these idiots are revealed in full, and nothing needs to be proved.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 April 16 2014 17: 38
      +1
      Quote: 0603
      The echoes of matzah need not be closed, there these idiots are revealed in full,

      So they will go underground. And there, in all its glory, they read out sentences to themselves. It is a pity that the sentences are only in the form of public censure.
  26. Provincial_71
    Provincial_71 April 16 2014 16: 53
    +1
    It's time to chop this Gordian knot. The people are waiting and supporting.
  27. saag
    saag April 16 2014 16: 57
    +2
    Quote: AlexStalker
    GDP with DAM hrn.ё.y suffer

    GDP, Shoigu, Sechin, Sergey Ivanov play for the Rothschilds, Medvedev and financiers for the Rockefellers, now the Rothschilds seem to have an advantage, hence all the current events
  28. intsurfer
    intsurfer April 16 2014 17: 01
    0
    Quote: rodiy2007
    Everything is correct, the time has come to give an adequate assessment of the events that have taken place, led by Mikhail Gorbachev, not for the purpose of "PR" or revenge, but for the purpose of historical justice.

    Then it is necessary to judge N. Khrushchev for having handed over Crimea to Ukraine without asking the opinion of citizens. It is clear that he will not be imprisoned, but his actions must be evaluated.

    Threat So gradually we get to the Rurikovich, who at the end of their reign ruined Kievan Rus ...
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru April 16 2014 17: 35
      +1
      Quote: intsurfer
      Threat So gradually we get to the Rurikovich, who at the end of their reign ruined Kievan Rus ...

      Yesterday he spoke on the same topic:
      Yesterday, 17:21 | “In the East of Ukraine the red banner of the social revolution rises”
      Quote: Per se.
      it’s time to remember that Kiev is the mother of Russian cities, and the territory under the name ... As for Orthodoxy, it began with Kievan Rus in our country
      I give the name: Alexey Kungurov. Kievan Rus was not, or What historians hide.
      Drive into the search engine, download, read. I assure you will not regret it. There and about Kiev and about Russia and about baptism. Then you can share your impressions in PM.
  29. lexxs101
    lexxs101 April 16 2014 17: 26
    +3
    Well, judging someone who’s tagged or someone from Yeltsin’s entourage will at least someday be surely unlikely, but screwing nuts to this liberal is easy for me, personally, as for me, I have nothing against living in a totalitarian, but STRONG state, than live by pseudo-democratic values
  30. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 16 2014 17: 31
    +2
    The fifth column long ago had to be re-hung. This is the main brake on the development of our country. They are essentially traitors who hate Russia with all their fibers and gills, and by fate, still living in our territory.
    1. Denis Tatar
      Denis Tatar April 16 2014 22: 19
      0
      you don’t need to hang up, you have to deprive of citizenship, you don’t love your homeland - go to x ... and leave the property here, that’s fair.
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  31. Sergei75
    Sergei75 April 16 2014 17: 44
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    Why did they start to hinder Humpback? And so it is clear, everyone understands that this crap deserves more than just a court. I hope this is not a game to increase the rating, because such friends are still dofig, for example, not drowned by Red and Serdyuk.
  32. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S April 16 2014 17: 59
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    Now, the GDP is the most opportune moment to deal with the fifth column, in the wake of popular support, any actions aimed at strengthening Russia will be a great success, the moment should not be missed. Let us miss the moment, after we bite our elbows if we get it.
  33. bleckhill
    bleckhill April 16 2014 18: 33
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    Right let them look for these scum, let them answer for the betrayal of our country and our people. All that they tried to seize. And so that it would be disgraceful to others. They would not have allowed the USSR to look, there would have been no warriors in Ossetia, there would have been no mess in Ukraine, but they could have avoided a lot ...
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  35. Uncle
    Uncle April 16 2014 18: 36
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    Here's an interesting infa:
    State Duma deputy from "United Russia" Yevgeny Fedorov, known for his conviction that we have in Russia a "large-scale spy network of the United States," posted a video on his website that says that Viktor Tsoi was an agent of the CIA, and his songs were written in Hollywood In the frame, Fedorov claims that in the late USSR, KGB officers knew "about a plan to eliminate the Soviet Union by foreign states," part of which were Tsoi’s songs. The deputy said that the lyrics of Tsoi, in particular, the text of the famous song "Change", were written by "professional authors in Hollywood commissioned by the CIA." “Tsoi himself did not know how to write songs, he wrote them in a team,” said Fedorov. - All the last songs he brought from America. One Choi would not have done anything, there are thousands of projects. This is a professional job, as it is today in Ukraine. ” Fedorov refers to some ordinary KGB officers who told him that at some stage Choi allegedly began to sing songs completely different from what they had before: “he sang about aluminum cucumbers, but then he suddenly started to sing about changes.” Allegedly, security officials immediately realized that this was "not his style, as if they were two different singers." They conducted research, interrogations, and found out that "all the last songs he brought from America." “That is, special people were at the CIA for Tsoi, they worked with him, they gave him grants, they gave him these songs, and so on,” the deputy summed up. I note that the conspiracy theological version of the connection between Viktor Tsoi and the Kino group with the CIA may be based on the fact that the wife of the Kino musician, Yuri Kasparyan, was a US citizen Joanna Stingray, who smuggled Kino records to the USA in 1986 and released there an album that was sent including to the then leaders of the USA and the USSR - Ronald Reagan and Mikhail Gorbachev.
    1. genabukin
      genabukin April 16 2014 19: 21
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      there is something in it ... now, too, some small girl writes a song about the brothers and about the heavenly hundred they sing very pityly not just an individual person, but some collective Hollywood-Bollywood creativity like that
  36. Alexandr Volkov
    Alexandr Volkov April 16 2014 18: 55
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    Quote: givargi
    initiative

    I'm going to Georgia for the May weekend. Are Omalo passes closed?
  37. dmb
    dmb April 16 2014 20: 41
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    Well, thank God, and the naval was noted. True, I doubt which group he joined: crooks led by Fedorov or a fool ... c, consisting mainly of victims of Internet education, who believe that 4 actions of arithmetic make it possible to consider oneself as a highly educated person capable of reasoning on any topic. Well, I don’t know how different types of torpedoes differ, and if I’m going to speak on this matter, I’ll read at least some reference book before. However, our parliamentarians, vice-presidents of allied academies and educational vocational schools believe that they know everything. To my deep regret, I report that neither Gorbachev and his pack, nor Yeltsin and his pack, including a certain Sobchak, whose assistant was a certain Putin, can not be brought to justice. The statute of limitations has expired, and on Gorbachev there is not even a valid criminal law. Of course you can accept all this. But if we recall that a certain Putin, in addition to providing effective assistance to Sobchak, was also the director of the FSB and the head of the administration of a certain Yeltsin, and he himself signed a decree on his immunity, then even the most "gifted" of the second group should understand that all such appeals by the Fedorovs and Sivkovs the usual nonsense.