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US Navy Destroyer Black Sea Adventure

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The new ritual of meeting uninvited guests is a repeated circling of the combat aircraft of the Russian Air Force. A polite reminder of who is the master of the Black Sea. Next time another polite plane arrives with polite rockets. Black Sea - Russian Sea. For centuries!

“The Su-24 bomber flew several times in close proximity to the US Navy destroyer Donald Cook, which entered the Black Sea 12 in April, reports Reuters, citing Pentagon spokesman Colonel Steve Warren, according to him. the altitude made 12 visits over Donald Cook while he was in the northern part of the Black Sea. "


In connection with the public interest in the subject of the Navy and, in particular, to the incident with the overflight of the American destroyer, I propose a detailed review of the current situation with a description of the capabilities of both sides. What threat could a bomber and destroyer pose to each other? What is this “Cook” capable of and what is the danger of its appearance at the very shores of Russia?

USS Donald Cook (DDG-75)

Ajidis destroyer with guided missile weapons - The 25th ship of the Orly Burke type. Belongs to the obsolete "subseries II". Bookmark date - 1996, launching - 1997, acceptance fleet - 1998. Currently assigned to the naval base of Rota (Mediterranean coast of Spain).

The ship is small - 154 meters in length, the total displacement of about 9000 tons. The regular crew is 280 people. The destroyer cost is a billion dollars in 1996 prices of the year.

US Navy Destroyer Black Sea Adventure

“Cook” is famous for the fact that the first night of March 2003 of the year launched a rocket on Iraq.

He has a lot of rockets. The 90 of the under deck cells of the Ukp MK.41, each of which may contain the tactical Tomahawk, ASROC-VL anti-submarine rocket-torpedo, the long-range Stender-2 anti-aircraft missile, the ESSM short-range anti-ballistic missile (by 4 in one cell, the XRUMX), the ESSM short-range anti-ballistic missile (by 3 in the same cell, XNUMX), the ESSM short-range anti-ballistic missile (for XNUMX in one cell), the sAT, in a single cell, in the case for the battles, 4, 4, 4, 4, 3, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 5, 9) SM-XNUMX American Pro. It is possible to use outdated self-defense missiles "SiSperrou". By the end of this decade, LRASM anti-ship ammunition promises to appear in launch cells.

Thus, a modest destroyer is able to carry the entire range of missiles that are in service with the US Navy (with the exception of underwater ballistic missiles). The number and type of missiles can vary in any proportion, increasing the number of strike or defensive weapons. The composition of the ammunition is determined by the current task.



This is an extremely powerful and versatile ship, whose shock capabilities exceed the capabilities of any cruisers and destroyers of other countries. Even those who are much larger than Cook. There are no analogues of this ship in the Russian Navy.

However, do not over-estimate the American destroyer. Its impact capabilities are great, but limited to the only “fleet against the shore” combat format. High-precision Tomahawk SLCMB are good for attacking the most important military and civilian infrastructure in the depths of the enemy’s territory, but they can do nothing to help the destroyer in naval combat (the BGM-109B TASM anti-ship version was removed from weapons 10 years ago). Until the advent of the promising LRASM, the only anti-ship weapon of the destroyer “Kuk” by now remains the 4 small-sized subsonic “Harpoon” anti-ship missiles, located in the stern of the ship.


Donald Cook and the British Integrated Supply Ship RFA Wave Ruler

Nevertheless, superemployees of the “Orly Burk” type were not created to launch “Tomahawks” for those who disagree with the White House policy. The main “chip” of these ships has always been “Aegis” (“Aegis”) - a combat information and control system that connected all means of detection, communication, fire control and the struggle for survivability of a ship into a single information space. In fact, the destroyer "Donald Cook" is a naval combat robot capable of making decisions and exchanging information with other ships of the same kind without the participation of real people.

Such an intelligent and high-speed system was created to solve one, the most important and responsible task - to ensure effective air defense of the formations. Mighty air defense platforms for the protection of aircraft carriers and escorting convoys on the high seas.



Included with the "Aegis" is certainly a multifunctional radar AN / SPY-1. A masterpiece of the US electronics industry, capable of detecting rockets flying above the water and observing satellites in near-earth orbits. This is the problem with SPY-1 - it turned out to be impossible to effectively solve such different tasks using one radar. And if there are no problems with the detection of space vehicles, then the possibility of Aegis destroyers in repelling the attacks of anti-ship missiles looks frankly dubious.

The Aegis + SPY-1 bundle looked like a very innovative solution for 1983 of the year, but by now this system is completely outdated. We can name at least five modern marine systems that are superior to Aegis in the area of ​​air defense tasks.

As a result, the Cook superfighter (like any of its 62 twins) turned out to be unable to perform the first of its tasks.

And the only awful trophy of the Aegis system for all the 30 years of its operation was the IranAir passenger airliner, which the BIUS mistakenly identified as the F-14 fighter.



With such an “outstanding” air defense system, American Aegis destroyers are hardly worth going into the Black Sea at all. Where the entire water area is shot through by coastal missile complexes and coastal aviationable to “slam” the American tin with one blow. A lone American ship is not serious.


A major drawback of the destroyer "Cook", as well as all representatives of sub-series I-II, is the inability to permanently base the helicopter. The ship has only a stern landing site and a limited supply of aviation fuel. The absence of a helicopter reduces the destroyer capabilities of the destroyer and limits its functionality.


Is the explosion aboard the destroyer?
Alas, just a rocket launch from the fodder UVP







Motorists



"Cook" passes the Bosphorus


Su-24

Surely many people regretted that the destroyer was flown around not by the snow-white bomber Tu-22 and not the newest Su-34 bomber, but merely by the modest 24-th "Cracker". Variable sweep front bomber, adopted for service in the distant 70-s. However, even this was enough in abundance. The Pentagon’s press service has broken out with angry accusations of provocation and “unprofessional actions” of Russian pilots. The Russian public also responded with a flurry of mocking and humorous comments in the style of “Yankees, go home!”

On Saturday, the fighter flew a thousand yards (about a kilometer) at a height of about 500 feet (150 meters) to the destroyer. The fighter had no weapons. The commander of the ship made several warnings over the radio. The maneuvers ended without incident.


In general, it is necessary to recognize that this episode from a military point of view does not make sense. Su-24 is not a German stunt dive-bomber. There is no need for him to come close to a goal a thousand yards away. Outside the XXI century. The era of precision weapons. The main method of warfare has become the remote, in which the arms operator does not see the enemy in person.



The rapprochement with the warship of the opponent in PEACE time also does not give any reasons for discussing the current situation. The incident occurred in neutral waters, where everyone is free to be where he pleases. Another thing is that the American destroyer arrived in the Black Sea - the sphere of the original interests of Russia, where the appearance of outsiders is not welcome and even specifically limited by the Montreux Convention.

The Russian bomber "passed" by the American ship on a shaving 12 time. And this is also a sign.

The only countermeasure that could be used by Aegis destroyer is to shoot down an airplane. As mentioned Iranian airliner in 1988 year. Of course, to do this in this situation was absolutely impossible - I had to endure a mockery and, as if nothing had happened, take refuge in the territorial waters of Romania.

It is useless to look for any sense in the actions of the Su-24 crew from a military point of view. “Combat sortie”, “rehearsal of the attack”, “Su-24 revealed the position of the enemy ship” - this is not about him. Combat sorties are made according to a different scheme — detection from the greatest range, launching of rockets and immediate departure to a low altitude, beyond the ship’s radio horizon. Where the SPY-1 radar will not see it. In combat, “breastfeed” to the Aegis system’s missiles is a beautiful, but not the most prudent thing.

A twelvefold circling of the “Donald Cook” had a purely demonstrative value. To temper the warlike ardor of the Pentagon, which sent the fifth warship to the region for the year, obviously believing that the Black Sea has the right to be called the African American. The Russian side had to demonstrate its determination. To show the world that we are closely following the developments in the Black Sea and, if necessary ... However, our "partners" understood everything and retreated.


In case of need, even those who are not too adapted to attack the Su-24 ships have a lot of decent "answers" for the adversary. Of particular interest are the X-59 X-58 remote-controlled air-to-air missiles and X-3,6A missiles, which are induced by ship radars (flight speed is Mach XNUMX).
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  1. sscha
    sscha April 16 2014 08: 03
    68
    What are the Yankees over ...? This is our "ritual" for such newcomers to our "puddle"! laughing hi
    1. Vadim-Skeptic
      Vadim-Skeptic April 16 2014 09: 51
      18
      On Aftershock, the author of the note suggested that the flight over the destroyer took place using the Khibiny electronic warfare system .h..p: //aftershock.su/? Q = node / 223873
      How true is his opinion?
      1. bif
        bif April 16 2014 11: 07
        47
        Thanks a lot to Oleg for a brief overview of the Combat characteristics! But with a high degree of probability, this overflight had very specific goals, because it made 12 circles not just the Su-24, but the Su-24MR, which made not just a "courtesy visit", which scared the crew up to the point of dismissal, and collected quite definite intelligence data. .. Even logically judge for 1,5 hours no one will just circle over a frightened destroyer.
        1. Boatsman_Palych
          Boatsman_Palych April 16 2014 13: 50
          48
          Su-24MR for collecting data just does not need to fly around 12 times on a shaving reconnaissance object. It was just an intimidation, but polite - therefore not a shock version of the SU-24. fellow
          1. bif
            bif April 17 2014 09: 43
            49
            Quote: Boatswain_Palych
            Su-24MR for collecting data just does not need to fly around 12 times on a shaving reconnaissance object. It was just an intimidation, but polite - therefore not a shock version of the SU-24. fellow

            You are wrong to intimidate for so long - we are not sadists ... Here is the most suitable version, which explains a lot.
            "The Khibiny is the newest Russian electronic warfare system that will be installed on all promising Russian aircraft. I did not find any data about it, no matter how much I looked, but here it is written that the SU-24 has already been used in exercises in Buryatia. now, nothing can demoralize a military man like his own impotence! ...
            The reaction of Russia was calm, but deadly: on April 12, the great day of cosmonautics, ours equipped an unarmed SU-24 for overflight in neutral waters, but with the Khibiny under the wing. Then everything developed approximately according to the following scenario: "Cook" noticed the approach of "drying" from a distance, played a combat alert and froze at the combat posts. Everything went smoothly, the radars were calculating the course of approach to the target, the Aegis regularly controlled the guidance systems. And suddenly - bang! Everything went out. "Aegis" does not work, screens show dregs, even "Phalanxes" cannot receive target designation! SU-24, meanwhile, passed over the Cook's deck, made a combat turn and simulated a missile attack on the target. Successful, of course - there is no opposition! Then he turned around and imitated another one. And so on - 10 more times! All attempts of technicians to revive Aegis and give target designation for air defense failed, and only when the silhouette of the "drying" melted in the haze over the Russian coast, the screens came to life, and the guidance systems faithfully showed the clear, shining empty April sky.

            Let me summarize. Most likely, after the SU-24 switched on in the immediate vicinity of the "Cook", "Khibiny", the entire air defense of the destroyer went out of order. Ours, while checking the efficiency of the electronic warfare system, simulated an attack on an American ship 12 (!) Times. During all this time, the ship's crew could not reanimate the extinguished CIUS. She earned it only when the SU-24 headed for the base. It was then that, realizing their own powerlessness against the electronic warfare complex of an ordinary bomber, 27 people and filed a resignation report. "
            http://www.warandpeace.ru/ru/commentaries/view/89702/
            The plausibility of this version is indirectly confirmed by the fact that the French Duplex did not go into the Black Sea, although its arrival was planned for the 14 April.
            1. silver_roman
              silver_roman April 17 2014 12: 14
              11
              a very nice version for the ears. how much can you trust her?
              "Khibiny" is a complex of radio-technical counteraction, as I understand it ?! but there is a more complete name. he would have rummaged in the net, looked about this beast!
              1. Bagor Danilov
                Bagor Danilov April 17 2014 21: 56
                21
                pleasant, but no more - because no one will turn on the jamming combat station in peaceful conditions, because this will be a gift for Aegis - and for the entire US electronic intelligence system, since the EW experts of the American would have already studied the parametric characteristics of the radiation and updated the threat libraries. Most likely, if the "Khibiny" flew, there was a reconnaissance flight in the interests of our own electronic warfare - for the future, so to speak, they were trying on. And such a large number of passes can be explained by the fact that none of the parties wanted to turn on their systems in an active mode, and the RES KuKa and Sushki worked passively, at some point the amers lost their nerves, they turned on the escort - here we have them and caught with valuable intelligence. That, in general, explains the dismissal of the Americans - they lost psychologically and made the Russians a gift for April 15 - the day of an electronic warfare specialist))). On the other hand, according to the wartime doctrine, all operating frequencies will still be changed, but the very fact of intercepting valuable radio technical data cannot but rejoice.
                1. klaus16
                  klaus16 April 18 2014 11: 52
                  +2
                  Well, yes, there are 2 options. Either "who will look at whom" - they lost their nerves, or some kind of "shaitan device" that jammed their basin.
                2. Bagor Danilov
                  Bagor Danilov April 21 2014 01: 37
                  +1
                  By the way, two Su-24s are mentioned on adversary resources - the first, causing diarrhea in 27 Cook's crew members, and the second, which was nearby.

                  http://news.usni.org/2014/04/14/russian-fighter-buzzes-u-s-destroyer-black-sea

                  the first side could be without Reb's equipment at all, but the second could well be equipped with something specific. After all, even if the closest Su to the ship counteracted, the power of its radiation would clearly not be enough to crush the level of the ship's radar - it would simply "burn through" continue to select its signals, because at a distance of 1 km, the ratio of the ship's radar signal power to the jamming signal power would be an order of magnitude, even though the radar's own signal traverses a double path (the basic radar equation). Here is physics after all. and except for the role of "live bait" the first "Drying" could not play. But the second side could well carry out both reconnaissance and the setting of imitation jamming, causing or filling the radar indicator of the ship with false targets or entering false coordinates, thereby introducing into a stupor the crew of Cook, who sees with his own eyes the frolicking "Drying", and on the radar monitors - a cookie or a whole armada of UFOs.))
            2. koshh
              koshh April 17 2014 12: 16
              +6
              yes, strong ob.ga.di.li.s americos! Already 10% immediately ran away. Not spiritual, weaklings, but the other and inappropriately expected.
              1. leman
                leman April 17 2014 19: 28
                25 th
                Just like the Ukrainians who go over to the side of the "separatists"
            3. kotvov
              kotvov April 18 2014 10: 07
              -1
              meanwhile passed over the deck of "Cook"
              flying over ships is prohibited by international treaties. since they are the territory of a foreign state. I know the case when the Americans, in the Mediterranean Sea, flew over our guard, the plane was hit and the merinos were silent, as they clearly violated the treaty.
            4. KILLAvolt
              KILLAvolt April 18 2014 11: 57
              +2
              Ahhh, I'm thrilled !!! good There is nothing worse than when you realize that you are powerless! negative
            5. Not local
              Not local April 19 2014 00: 12
              +1
              So nice to read. If even 10% of what was said about "Khibiny" is true, I am still proud.
            6. philip
              philip April 19 2014 04: 44
              0
              I could put two pluses, I would put.
          2. WKS
            WKS April 17 2014 11: 44
            +7
            To intimidate the next time, you need to circle a drone over the ship. And accompany them throughout their stay in the Russian Sea.
            1. Bort radist
              Bort radist April 18 2014 16: 51
              +2
              Quote: wks
              To intimidate the next time, you need to circle a drone over the ship.

              And 12 times the approach with the release of flaps and landing gear. wink wassat
        2. Mister X
          Mister X April 16 2014 18: 33
          42
          Quote: bif
          "courtesy call", which frightened the crew up to dismissal,

          Mass layoffs on the US destroyer Donald Cook
          And although the Pentagon promised to increase the insurance sums of military personnel from 1 million dollars to 3 million dollars, very few people calmed down.
          Survival on the open sea and then receive an insurance payment is not enough chances.
          And dead money is not needed.

          As a result of the events described, the crew of the "Donald Cook" was forced to sail with a shortage of personnel.
          The further dismissal of 27 crew members, which may be followed by others, threatens the destroyer’s continued successful execution of the task ...

          1. General Frost
            General Frost April 18 2014 05: 19
            +5
            I will repeat myself. And on the air they rejoiced ---- "Please don't we run out of antidepressants, the team is jumping overboard, the first mate has locked himself in the latrine and proclaimed himself the exclusive chief chief on the planet and does not open. Please do not frighten the heroic destroyer team." laughing
          2. Berkut-UA
            Berkut-UA April 18 2014 05: 30
            +7
            And who would not be scared when a single plane circling
            over the ship, it can disable 10% of the crew (politelywithout a single shot) wassat

            The crew is 280 people.
            1. Assistant
              Assistant April 18 2014 20: 42
              +3
              politely, without a single shot


              To award pilots with the medal "For courtesy in battle"!
              This is how many copies of this medal we have to stamp ...
            2. Foxmara
              Foxmara April 18 2014 20: 52
              +2
              and here I am, as I was not looking for it - I could not find confirmation of the Yankees about the dismissals. Does anyone have a link?
          3. Militia
            Militia April 18 2014 16: 08
            0
            What did they think to themselves? What went on vacation to cool? And if you imagine that Drying would be with ammunition? Probably the whole composition of the Cooks would be requested for a demobilization. Those who especially jumped around wearing helmets and vests. Let the bastards know that you can’t spoil the Russians. They must be constantly kept in such a tone. So that the thighs flowed from the anus.
        3. shifervals
          shifervals April 17 2014 00: 09
          13
          Great phrase - terrified destroyer am
          1. ochakow703
            ochakow703 April 17 2014 12: 37
            21
            It would be more correct, the destroyer "Frightened"
            1. Com T-64a
              Com T-64a April 17 2014 18: 57
              +3
              THANKS THANU TO THINK !!! WELL YOU BAPTIZED IT !!! laughing laughing laughing
            2. alexng
              alexng April 18 2014 03: 38
              +4
              Quote: ochakow703
              It would be more correct, the destroyer "Frightened"


              We urgently need to rename it to "Frightened Cook". And not Cook would be more correct, but "How" from the word cocoa.
              1. Berkut-UA
                Berkut-UA April 18 2014 05: 40
                +5
                if scared and kaka ... then in Russian with an American accent - it will be - destroyer "Ponos"
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        4. smart Fox
          smart Fox April 17 2014 08: 34
          +5
          The mind cannot understand Russia.
        5. ty60
          ty60 7 May 2014 15: 42
          0
          I saw a version of the test of the new electronic warfare against Aegis. Moreover, it was very successful. The resigned mattresses announced the complete non-functionality of the guidance devices.
      2. Danafxnumx
        Danafxnumx April 16 2014 23: 21
        25
        Quote: Vadim the Skeptic
        On Aftershock, the author of the note suggested that the flight over the destroyer took place using the Khibiny electronic warfare system .h..p: //aftershock.su/? Q = node / 223873
        How true is his opinion?

        in this case, the use of electronic warfare "Khibiny" would explain a lot ...

        Imagine you are the world's coolest destroyer of the coolest country in the world with the coolest Aegis rockets in the world ...
        some old, almost half a century ago, arrives here, the trough and all your Ajis for 90 minutes are covered with a copper basin along with other electronic systems ...

        it is unlikely that the American brave warriors had not seen Sushki before and managed to get out of the same sight ...
        but the complete silence on the air with an airplane performing incomprehensible passes overhead, the change of underpants and overflowing latrines would fully explain ...
      3. esmiralda
        esmiralda April 17 2014 22: 00
        +1
        KRET enterprises are constantly working on new
        electronic warfare systems. 12 aircraft and ground are under development
        systems. In particular, by order of the Ministry of Defense
        design work to create a unique complex
        "Khibiny-U".
        The new complex will surpass all types of electronic warfare
        air-based, now in service. Them
        It is planned to equip front-line aircraft of the Air Force. During
        development work the complex will be placed on
        multifunctional fighter Su-30SM.

        http://nevskii-bastion.ru/khibiny/
        1. Bagor Danilov
          Bagor Danilov April 21 2014 01: 13
          +1
          The article contains illustrations of another jamming station - export, and in two versions - individual and group protection. And the "khibiny" is still another development, albeit a related one, and will surpass analogues in terms of characteristics - both in resources, and in the presence of the most complex algorithms of work, and in the number of simultaneously suppressed targets.
      4. GSH-18
        GSH-18 April 18 2014 09: 28
        +6
        Quote: "A lonely American ship is not serious."
        ================================================== ==============
        They are in the Black Sea not for the sake of war, but for the sake of the show off. Typical behavior of a gopnik!
        1. Sandov
          Sandov April 18 2014 10: 43
          +2
          Quote: GSH-18
          Quote: "A lonely American ship is not serious."
          ================================================== ==============
          They are in the Black Sea not for the sake of war, but for the sake of the show off. Typical behavior of a gopnik!

          So ours a little tempered these show-offs.
    2. Yankuz
      Yankuz April 16 2014 14: 56
      +4
      I think no, not re .... Rather, it’s such a tactic of the Pentagon - to provoke moods. Let dust of Russia in the eyes. In fact, Kuku has no reason and reason to be afraid of our plane - is it the first time that he is facing? Assess the situation soberly!
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 April 16 2014 21: 30
        +3
        Have they come across before? More.
        1. Danafxnumx
          Danafxnumx April 16 2014 23: 28
          +4
          Quote: Dart2027
          Have they come across before? More.

          1. Drying in service in many countries, including those where the United States fought ...
          2. circling ships of a probable partner in neutral waters is not so rare ...
          1. acute
            acute April 17 2014 14: 13
            15
            There was one precedent in my lifetime in the Barents Sea. Avax made a combat call over our nuclear submarine, which is in the surface position in neutral waters. By order of the commander, two sailors from MANPADS were called into the wheelhouse and ordered to destroy the target in the event of entering a combat course. Norway turned away
            1. Com T-64a
              Com T-64a April 17 2014 18: 59
              +4
              Ehh ... here you see the times were ... USSR !!! soldier
              1. DOTS
                DOTS April 18 2014 22: 58
                +1
                Yes, there were people in our time, not like the current tribe - you are not the heroes.
            2. Dest. 956
              Dest. 956 April 18 2014 07: 25
              +3
              Maybe all the same, not AWACS but ORION?
              1. acute
                acute April 18 2014 09: 26
                +2
                I apologize Orion
            3. kotvov
              kotvov April 18 2014 10: 12
              +1
              may not need an avax plane detection and target designation.
              1. acute
                acute April 18 2014 13: 20
                0
                Nevertheless, what was, was. Nuclear submarine lost VSK and was on the surface
                1. acute
                  acute April 18 2014 13: 29
                  0
                  Of course, I don’t know what they practiced there, but entering along the beam at an altitude of 100 m is the development of an attack. if someone saw Orion near, can imagine a picture (very unpleasant)
      2. HMR333
        HMR333 April 16 2014 22: 56
        +5
        no, not the first time, but now the situation is tense and the military power of Russia is growing every day! and in their descavari they recognized that the su-35s is better than their f22 raptor ....
        1. complete zero
          complete zero April 17 2014 09: 22
          +3
          Better or worse, it’s not appropriate, only a military clash (God forbid) is able to determine which is better than 22 or 35 (and even then in what conditions, what is the level of pilots, etc.)
          1. Sandov
            Sandov April 18 2014 10: 44
            0
            Quote: full zero
            Better or worse, it’s not appropriate, only a military clash (God forbid) is able to determine which is better than 22 or 35 (and even then in what conditions, what is the level of pilots, etc.)

            The experience of the pilots and their desire to punish the scoundrel is more important.
    3. _my opinion
      _my opinion April 16 2014 18: 24
      22
      after our "ritual" a message appeared:
      MOSCOW, April 15. (ARMS-TASS). The French Navy destroyer Duplex, which was originally planned to enter the Black Sea on April 14, will not enter its waters for at least the next two days. ITAR-TASS was informed about this by a source in the RF Ministry of Defense.
      "Something there the French did not go well with their plans, and their Duplex" got stuck "in the Mediterranean Sea. It is located in the port of Limassol (Cyprus), so the arrival of the destroyer in the Black Sea is not expected either today or Wednesday, even if he will now leave the port ", - said the source of the agency.

      thoughtful to see the French, is it worth teasing us, maybe bounce ...
      1. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch April 16 2014 19: 09
        +2
        Quote: _my opinion
        thoughtful to see the French, is it worth teasing us, maybe bounce ...


        It seems to me, everything is much simpler. The impossibility of simultaneously finding such a connection not of the countries of the Black Sea region ...

        ... "and also if Turkey considers that it is directly threatened by war, it has the right to allow or prohibit the passage of any military vessels through the straits."
      2. Danafxnumx
        Danafxnumx April 16 2014 23: 29
        +1
        Quote: _my opinion
        "Something there the French did not work out with their plans, and their" Duplex "" stuck "in the Mediterranean.

        Are the latrines clogged? drinks
      3. mojohed2012
        mojohed2012 April 17 2014 11: 14
        14
        The funniest thing is that the EU and US media again got information about Russia from the naphthalene from funds about World War I and World War II of this type: "The Russian soldier is stubborn in defense and unstoppable in attack. He has high moral training and stability, which is connected with the difficult living conditions of people in Muscovy. Fatalism is developed among the military - self-sacrifice and willingness to help a comrade in need, so the Russian army has always won, despite the numerical superiority of the Western troops. "
        They are now afraid that we do not care about our lives and the world and that we are ready to rush with arms to the civilized west, for which we will sink both Cook and the French ship into the lungs.
        They can not understand with their own head our logic, truth and justice.
    4. alex_83
      alex_83 April 17 2014 00: 25
      +4
      This is not the first time that Russia shows the failure of the power of the US Navy !!!!
      1. ArhipenkoAndrey
        ArhipenkoAndrey April 17 2014 05: 13
        +5
        Well, this is said loudly, and there is no need to draw hasty conclusions to the US Navy is a formidable opponent, but they got it on the nose for arrogance and arrogance, but this does not detract from their strength, if you look soberly.
        1. CAMS
          CAMS April 18 2014 09: 54
          +1
          I propose to watch the dock film "Red Ram". He says a lot, by the way, the commander of one of the ships is the head of OUR Crimea
    5. platitsyn70
      platitsyn70 April 17 2014 19: 36
      0
      He really has a lot of missiles.
      but we have a lot of torpedoes.
    6. GSH-18
      GSH-18 April 18 2014 09: 24
      +3
      Quote: "" The new ritual of meeting uninvited guests is the repeated flight of a combat aircraft of the Russian Air Force. A polite reminder of who is the boss of the Black Sea. Next time, another polite plane with polite missiles will arrive. The Black Sea is the Russian Sea. For centuries!
      ================================================== ==============
      Just for it +++
  2. Roman_Romanich
    Roman_Romanich April 16 2014 08: 12
    15
    It is interesting, is it true that after this flight, the 27 crew members of the destroyer, for fear, wrote reports on dismissal? )))
    1. Manul
      Manul April 16 2014 11: 48
      +5
      Quote: Romann_Romanich
      It is interesting, is it true that after this flight, the 27 crew members of the destroyer, for fear, wrote reports on dismissal? )))

      Exactly. Although there is a confirmation or a rebuttal where to find it. And you don’t know whether to gnaw about it, or it’s a duck, albeit a beautiful one.
      1. serrrrgo
        serrrrgo April 17 2014 16: 20
        0
        Yes, it seems like a fake though. I’ve climbed specially for Amer’s sites, there were also a couple of stuffing there.
      2. serrrrgo
        serrrrgo April 17 2014 16: 31
        +6
        I was also pleased with the comments at one of the Amer’s forums, there people spit that after Obama’s permission to serve homosexuals in the Navy, destroyers turn into gay cruises)) Like these 27 who left just those who went on a gay cruise))
    2. smart Fox
      smart Fox April 17 2014 08: 38
      0
      They could have. They had never seen such a Russian plane so close in life, but then they made out and realized that matches for children are not toys.
    3. leman
      leman April 17 2014 19: 42
      +3
      Americans serve for money. They are not ready to die. It is one thing to remotely shell underdeveloped countries, knowing that no answer will follow. Another, when the danger is visible visually. Just think about the meaning of life. After all, the destroyer seems to replace only those that launched the first missile on Iraq.
    4. Havoc
      Havoc April 18 2014 11: 58
      +3
      Link to Reuters.
  3. Dubox
    Dubox April 16 2014 08: 24
    44
    Before departure, it was necessary to send this photo to Donald Cook. The effect would be even greater.
    1. bif
      bif April 16 2014 11: 00
      13
      Quote: Dubox
      Before departure, it was necessary to send this photo to Donald Cook. The effect would be even greater.

      Yes, and that's enough ...
      "On April 10, a destroyer of the type Arleigh Burke (Donald Cook) entered the waters of the Black Sea, on April 12, 2014, on Saturday, the Su-24MR of the Russian Air Force made 12 overflights of the ship at a distance of 1 km, and altitudes of 150m, despite warnings from the ship's commander. 27 members The destroyer's crew submitted a letter of resignation. Commenting on their actions, they said they did not intend to endanger their lives. " Data from the Basurman Wiki!
      1. yulka2980
        yulka2980 April 18 2014 05: 10
        0
        What were these crew members thinking about when they went to serve at all ?! They knew that they weren’t going to play in the sandbox fool
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      3. IGS
        IGS April 19 2014 03: 19
        0
        Commenting on their actions, they said that they did not intend to endanger their lives. "Data from the Basurman Wiki!
  4. dark_65
    dark_65 April 16 2014 08: 26
    80


    pride in the country
    1. roskaz
      roskaz April 16 2014 10: 52
      14
      Cool video !!! gave the heat to the Americans!
    2. Odissei
      Odissei April 16 2014 12: 15
      14
      And so it is necessary to meet the defenders of American democracy at our place, !!!!
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      2. cumastra1
        cumastra1 April 16 2014 16: 58
        14
        For such an action it is necessary to have not even steel, but titanium eggs.
    3. papas-57
      papas-57 April 16 2014 19: 14
      37 th
      `` pride in the country. '' The report forgot to mention the consequences. The Americans repaired their ships, and our one patrol boat was handed over for scrap.
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 April 16 2014 21: 37
        13
        What kind of curiosity can this be? The displacing IBS was decommissioned in 2002 - that is, 14 years after the incident.
      2. upasika1918
        upasika1918 April 17 2014 02: 53
        +4
        You're lying. Not ours, but kakeli. After the division of the Fleet, the "Selfless" went to them and, at the "request" of the new owner, the ship was sold as metal.
      3. Corsair0304
        Corsair0304 April 17 2014 10: 18
        +4
        This adds even more pride for the courage of our sailors. Not everyone will be able to navalize a ship 2-4 times more than yours in terms of displacement.
      4. papont64
        papont64 April 18 2014 08: 38
        0
        according to their terms and so it was necessary to scrap metal, they are 60 years of construction.
      5. papont64
        papont64 April 18 2014 08: 38
        0
        according to their terms and so it was necessary to scrap metal, they are 60 years of construction.
      6. Fanat1984
        Fanat1984 April 18 2014 13: 45
        +1
        Both of our ships were on the verge of retirement by old age, and they were sent to the Americans, because it’s not a pity !!! All the same, a year later it was scrapped, and the latest ship was severely damaged by the Americans, which had been launched for 3 months! After this bulk this ship was under repair for almost 2 years !!! And by the way, almost the entire team from him, immediately upon returning, quit the US armed forces, with exactly the same wording as in this article! laughing

        By the way, the Americans went to us in the Black Sea with a high-burst fighting spirit and their intention to show the USSR that the Black least is not the inland sea of ​​the USSR ... fool
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    5. Vanko
      Vanko April 16 2014 21: 59
      +7
      Americans are very professional and brave warriors. They heroically lay down whole pyramids of bricks, hearing only one word "Russians". They only have one drawback, these pyramids then have nowhere to go, you have to take home laughing
    6. samoletil18
      samoletil18 April 16 2014 22: 02
      12
      My Homeland - USSR soldier
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    8. leman
      leman April 17 2014 19: 53
      0
      It was necessary to portray something like that now. Donate something from the vessels of the "Ukrainian fleet". I think there would be those who want to have some fun.
    9. Sandov
      Sandov April 18 2014 11: 29
      +1
      Quote: dark_65


      pride in the country

      The burly bully was kicked in the face. Impressive. These hoaxes do not understand words.
    10. Corsair
      Corsair April 18 2014 23: 50
      0
      as they say for neh..y))) did not know about this story, our sailors handsome.
  5. gregor6549
    gregor6549 April 16 2014 08: 29
    97 th
    I agree with the author of the article. This flight did not give anything and did not frighten anyone, but it could well provoke a conflict. And there is already one step to full-scale war. This has already happened more than once during the Cold War, and quite often could end in a hot war. In the old film "Oleko Dundich" was shown a checker with an engraving "Don't take out without need, don't invest without glory." Gold words ! They are not outdated now.
    1. sub307
      sub307 April 16 2014 09: 00
      38
      In itself, the entry of a single US destroyer into the Black Sea, approaching Russian territorial waters without violating the regime of these, is not a "misdemeanor" from the point of view of international law. And, flying around the "foe's" warship by a combat aircraft is a purely "indicative" action from the ordinary arsenal of practical actions in this situation. That which did not frighten - obviously, with "good" fright they usually shoot. The destroyer was still in a "certain tension" and preferred to retire to "friendly" territorial waters, thereby ending the incident.
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    3. Veter
      Veter April 16 2014 09: 45
      44
      Quote: gregor6549
      This flight did not give anything and didn’t scare anyone, but it could well provoke a conflict.

      That is, flying around our plane is a provocation, but there is no Amer ship entering the Black Sea?
      Stop groveling over US power
      There was no provocation and no
      1. Turkir
        Turkir April 16 2014 09: 55
        22
        Moreover, under the USSR, such overflights, already of our ships, were DAILY.
        There was no provocation.
        And if they had not flown around, THEY came up with something else.
        Like - "Why not fly around?", with their impudence and stupidity, it will become of them.
      2. Ural guys
        Ural guys April 16 2014 10: 29
        +6
        Right! We are at home, but they want to "visit" us. Yes, apparently sins are not allowed into heaven.
        1. Danafxnumx
          Danafxnumx April 16 2014 23: 35
          +4
          Quote: Ural guys
          We are at home, but they want to "visit" us.

          it would be necessary to repeat such a flyover somewhere in the Caribbean ... or at least in the Mediterranean ...

          for - nefig!
      3. Ural guys
        Ural guys April 16 2014 10: 29
        +1
        Right! We are at home, but they want to "visit" us. Yes, apparently sins are not allowed into heaven.
      4. sem-yak
        sem-yak April 16 2014 14: 55
        +1
        Yes, and their power under the Baaaalshim question!
      5. IGS
        IGS April 17 2014 01: 08
        11
        I repeat Zadornov: "You are an aggressive Russian people. Why did you attack the Swedes near Poltava?" laughing
      6. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa April 17 2014 01: 29
        +6
        Quote: Veter
        There was no provocation and no

        Our plane did not violate Article 4 of the Agreement between the governments of the USSR and the USA on the prevention of incidents in the open sea and the airspace above it. Where it says:
        "The commanders of the aircraft of each Party shall exercise the utmost caution and prudence when approaching the aircraft of the other Party operating over the high seas and ships of the other Party operating on the high seas, in particular ships engaged in the release or reception of aircraft, and in the interests of mutual security must not allow: simulating attacks by simulating the use of weapons on airplanes, any ships, performing various aerobatic figures over ships and dropping various objects near them in such a way that they pose a danger to ships or interference with navigation.
        SU-24 kept a respectful distance from the "Cook" - 1000m, at an altitude of 500m. Such a flight cannot be qualified as provocative.
    4. gandalf
      gandalf April 16 2014 10: 32
      11
      Quote: gregor6549
      "Don't take out unnecessarily, don't invest without glory." Gold words ! They are not outdated now.


      So there was nothing to sail.
    5. demon184
      demon184 April 16 2014 10: 49
      +5
      It is necessary for every US ship that has entered the Black Sea to arrange such a meeting that they would be afraid to even think about it once again.
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    7. oblako
      oblako April 16 2014 10: 53
      13
      I do not agree that the flight did not make sense. I had, I don't even see any reason to comment on why. All the media wrote about it. This was deposited in the heads of all those interested and engaged in confrontation. They show their flag. We demonstrate ours. Who provokes whom is also a pointless question. The question is who has more exposure or who will start first. And the question is, how much is anyone ready for war or for a real battle. The plane, by the way, was unarmed. And ours was not without interest to know how ready the Donald Cook is to launch missiles. Quite even a photo reconnaissance flight, without demonstration of weapons and without the inclusion of the corresponding radar control weapons. "Oleko Dundich" is not an entirely correct example taken out of context, with all due respect to the principle.
      1. KaKaDu
        KaKaDu April 16 2014 11: 02
        +2
        Quote: oblako
        They show their flag. We demonstrate our own.

        Only their flag flies on a heavily armed destroyer, and ours on a lone unarmed airplane. Somehow not solid. It was nevertheless necessary to send something larger, more convincing.
        1. Winged
          Winged April 16 2014 14: 25
          +1
          Maybe the Tu-95?
        2. Vanko
          Vanko April 16 2014 22: 31
          +9
          This is how I present this dialogue:
          - Maybe we’ll send something bigger, more convincing?
          He, looking into the spyglass:
          - No, they think too much about themselves.

          laughing
        3. RONIN-HS
          RONIN-HS April 16 2014 23: 30
          +4
          Chesslovo ... got it already with the female terminology - "airplane ...", "soldier ..."
          There are no unarmed aircraft. angry
          The pilot ALWAYS has the opportunity to shout: ... "BANZAI .. !!!" go to the ram!
          "... There is a reason for its flight,
          Take a soul out of someone
          And put your soul into someone ... "A. Rosenbaum - Kamikaze.
          Listen at your leisure, maybe you will understand something ... good
        4. Danafxnumx
          Danafxnumx April 16 2014 23: 36
          0
          Quote: KaKaDu
          Only their flag flies on a heavily armed destroyer, and ours on a lone unarmed airplane. Somehow not solid. It was nevertheless necessary to send something larger, more convincing.

          specifically decided not to provoke ...
        5. Corsair0304
          Corsair0304 April 17 2014 10: 27
          +2
          Do not. And so convinced. And to exchange strategists for destroyers - throw beads in front of the ami. And that the plane was unarmed - so after all reconnaissance, and the water area is shot through with coastal weapons.
      2. avia12005
        avia12005 April 17 2014 06: 47
        0
        Maybe there were no missiles. And the gun ???
        1. KaKaDu
          KaKaDu April 17 2014 08: 36
          0
          Quote: avia12005
          Maybe there were no missiles. And the gun ???

          Yeah, and PMy pilots. Terrible weapon against the destroyer :)
    8. Absurdidat
      Absurdidat April 16 2014 12: 09
      19
      So, do you think that to land near the border on a cruiser full of missiles is a friendship visit, and flying around without a weapon on an airplane is a warlike wave of a saber? Then can we wait until the last, when America will get an orgasm? And then we get the saber and kaaak chopping it in her there, behind the ass ??? No. I don’t want to, don’t even want to dream about giving us the power to bend.
    9. Good cat
      Good cat April 16 2014 12: 27
      +3
      I don’t agree, the answer should always be, keep silent now - then it will be worse.
    10. jekasimf
      jekasimf April 16 2014 22: 44
      +2
      Already sucked the use of "Khibiny" in a similar article "one SU 24 in the field of war" and again 25. Why duplicate articles ???
    11. Danafxnumx
      Danafxnumx April 16 2014 23: 33
      +3
      Quote: gregor6549
      In the old film "Oleko Dundich" was shown a checker with an engraving "Don't take out without need, don't invest without glory." Gold words ! They are not outdated now.

      show this film to the Americans ...
    12. IGS
      IGS April 17 2014 01: 07
      +4
      You are for the abolition of the combat duty of strategic bombers, nuclear submarines. And sa complete cancellation of the release of warships in international waters. You never know, suddenly scared to whine and press a button. I would see what happened if our ship approached the United States.
    13. gregor6549
      gregor6549 April 17 2014 06: 08
      10 th
      Well, a negative result is also a result. At least it quite clearly reflects the level of thinking of some homegrown "urya - strategists". And this level, alas, is much lower than the plinth. They, "strategists", should remember how a few years ago an American warship was driven out of the Black Sea by the ships of the Russian Navy. And the result was, and a good lesson was given to those wishing to swim there. And then they flew around a couple of times and .... oil painting ... in my own imagination. Smallish, guys. To be exhausted from the impotence of your fearlessness is not an awful greyhound. And it's time to learn to understand correctly what others are saying, and not replace their words with your own fabrications. Although you are unlikely to succeed.
    14. Corsair0304
      Corsair0304 April 17 2014 10: 23
      +2
      Negative to you, my friend. It was at this moment that the engraving on the saber that you misinterpreted was applicable: the enemy came to your house, the enemy was shown that he has nothing to catch except his death jacket. So the MULTIPLE FLIGHT has made Amers clear about our intentions, which was correctly understood.
      1. KaKaDu
        KaKaDu April 17 2014 10: 31
        15 th
        Quote: Corsair0304
        So MULTI-FIRST FLIGHT made clear to Amers our intentions

        Aha: "if you sail again, we will fly over you again, like flies over feces, until the kerosene runs out." the Americans are terrified, 27 senior Pentagon officers are submitting their resignation reports, Obama escapes to Mexico, the capital is automatically transferred to Vasyuki :)
        1. Corsair0304
          Corsair0304 April 17 2014 10: 43
          +2
          If they do not understand the pilots, they will understand the sailors. The bulk of the corps has not been canceled (in the territorial waters, of course). Friendly escort also works. In one thing I agree with you - the phrase "over feces." And why should we fuck up in Vasyuki..s their capital?
    15. 97110
      97110 April 17 2014 16: 16
      +3
      that is, a passer-by pee on your door, and you opened your mouth - "And there is already one step before a full-scale war." Makarevich you are ours.
    16. Berkut-UA
      Berkut-UA April 18 2014 05: 54
      0
      Quote: gregor6549
      ... This has already happened more than once during the Cold War, and quite often it could end in a hot war. ...

      Yes, this has happened more than once
      when US planes and helicopters hung over matches or when flying, they came to supersonic. This could go on for hours. And this was not off the coast of America but in the Mediterranean or the Atlantic.

      And I assure you - no one shot and no one ran into the latrine as often as happened with Cook. And no one wrote a report on the transfer to another part.
    17. Fanat1984
      Fanat1984 April 18 2014 13: 49
      0
      And neh to climb to us with a sword !!! Alexander Nevsky also said: "Who will come to us with a sword ..." (Then you yourself know if they dropped in to school at least once a year!)
    18. turrbo
      turrbo April 18 2014 19: 55
      0
      And if our ship went into the Gulf of Mexico?
    19. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch April 18 2014 22: 15
      0
      In general, how much can you bother with the topic "how would anyone think of something"? Many comrades do not
      this bad habit will not disappear. This is OUR sea, and WE set the rules!
  6. La-5
    La-5 April 16 2014 08: 44
    +7
    I would call the American destroyer - "all eggs in one basket", and how great it would be to sink this "basket" using a pair of Su-24s.
    1. MBA78
      MBA78 April 16 2014 09: 41
      +7
      or with the help of a pair of corncorns, throw this floating shit with eggs and pour green stuff ...
      1. Stavros
        Stavros April 16 2014 12: 43
        +3
        It’s better to have a couple of bags of crap. Immediately the accusations would have been sent that they had used previously unknown weapons.
        1. Morgan
          Morgan April 16 2014 17: 09
          +4
          Biological weapons prohibited by conventions
      2. kotvov
        kotvov April 18 2014 10: 30
        0
        as the Georgians have already stated: the Russian multi-purpose aircraft An-2 violated the border of Great Jordan, the pilot blasted away, and the Allies already had panic.
  7. sv68
    sv68 April 16 2014 08: 53
    +9
    Now the Amricans will not understand Russia even more - why they didn’t sink the ship, because the Russians are so bloodthirsty fool
  8. spech
    spech April 16 2014 08: 55
    +4
    looking at 6 photos remembered:
    The sun is shining, blacks plow
    this is our share lol
  9. Stiletto
    Stiletto April 16 2014 09: 07
    +4
    Cook's crew was pretty lousy)))) But don’t have to go wherever they’re called!
  10. Hort
    Hort April 16 2014 09: 08
    14
    In general, it is worth recognizing that this episode does not make sense from a military point of view. Su-24 - not a German dive plucker
    a pity by the way. From the dive of the "thing" with the howl of a siren, the Yankees would generally shrink laughing
  11. Baikal
    Baikal April 16 2014 09: 19
    +8
    I don’t know how anyone, but this photo didn’t cause a dovar.
    Solid electronics, screens, tsiferki ... Strelochniki and such and such a mother seem to be more reliable in a combat situation wink
    1. SAMARA
      SAMARA April 17 2014 02: 35
      +5
      Yes, it's all the same as ours, it's just that everything is beautiful with them. We have never dealt with the concept of "beautifully" .. we did it beautifully by itself ... more elegant or something. Functionality and cheapness are important to us, but it is important for them to wait more expensively.
    2. Corsair0304
      Corsair0304 April 17 2014 10: 47
      +5
      Most of all touched by the sign "Feet off the console" (Feet off the control panel). For normal people they write "Do not touch with your hands", "Look where you are pressing", they put the same feet on the keyboard lol They have something through w ... pu
  12. Kazakh
    Kazakh April 16 2014 09: 34
    10
    For what the natives flew around (Cook) For what - it is not clear, science is silent. laughing
  13. Ural guys
    Ural guys April 16 2014 09: 43
    +5
    By the way, if you look at the photographs, then they depict exclusively either blacks, or mulattos, or elderly people.
    \ And even the ship itself was laid in 1989, and launched only in 1997.
    \ the question is why is this old ship, and not yet completely sent with military personnel to the combat area (proposed area)?
    There is only one answer - for the sake of provocation committed against this destroyer, its destruction and the subsequent statement that Russia used force against US property.
    As a result, it will be possible to officially begin aggression by the United States against Russia.
    In order to disrupt this plan, there are few manifestations and publications on the Internet, it is also necessary to intensify the activities of not only the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation, but also of all state structures, withdrawal of funds stored in Western banks, demanding the return of all loans that could ever be issued to all those countries that voted in favor of sanctions against the Russian Federation, the requirement of the US Federal Reserve and Swiss banks to return the so-called "tsarist gold".
    1. iwind
      iwind April 16 2014 10: 05
      +5
      Quote: Ural guys
      \ And even the ship itself was laid in 1989, and launched only in 1997.
      \ asked why this old ship, and still not quite with the combat personnel

      Where does this nonsense come from? It was laid down on July 9, 1996, and launched on May 3, 1997.
      Quote: Ural guys
      There is only one answer - for the sake of provocation committed against this destroyer, its destruction and the subsequent statement that Russia used force against US property.

      On the contrary, the Pentagon said that two SU-24 is not a threat to the DDG 75.
      Here are the official reactions, there was no particular panic
      http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=122052.
      1. Ural guys
        Ural guys April 16 2014 10: 28
        +4
        Here it was http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Donald_Cook_(DDG-75)
        But already corrected. I have been tracking information on this destroyer for 2 weeks now.
      2. Ural guys
        Ural guys April 16 2014 10: 28
        0
        Here it was http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Donald_Cook_(DDG-75)
        But already corrected. I have been tracking information on this destroyer for 2 weeks now.
    2. KaKaDu
      KaKaDu April 16 2014 10: 52
      +3
      Quote: Ural guys
      By the way, if you look at the photographs, then they depict exclusively either blacks, or mulattos, or elderly people.

      Pale-faced also quite clearly observe (at least in the third photo in the article). And the elderly - well, then commanders, they are rarely young in our country.

      Quote: Ural guys
      and even the ship itself was laid in 1989, and launched only in 1997.
      \ the question is why is this old ship, and not yet completely sent with military personnel to the combat area (proposed area)?

      Is 97 years old? We, like, most of the fleet are much older.
    3. Fin
      Fin April 16 2014 11: 22
      +3
      Quote: Ural guys
      There is only one answer - for the sake of provocation committed against this destroyer, its destruction and the subsequent statement that Russia used force against US property.
      As a result, it will be possible to officially begin aggression by the United States against Russia.

      Fantasy is over the top. The scenario of the apocalypse, if developed. A ship came, flew over it, everyone remained with their interests. There are dozens of such meetings a year, and there is no war yet. It will take 2 weeks when he will have to leave, then we will begin to write notes.
  14. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee April 16 2014 09: 48
    +6
    And cho, he is not yet drowned with fear? lol
  15. Western Faces
    Western Faces April 16 2014 09: 51
    +6
    What's that noise ? In the middle-earth, that ours, that the Americans fly around each other a dozen times a day, and nothing, but then they made a noise ... they are afraid ...
    1. Vanko
      Vanko April 16 2014 22: 40
      +6
      When I worked in the Baltic Sea on the merchant fleet, our tankers and the Swedes and Finns flew around several times, almost curled over the deck itself. And nothing, the fact showed and further along the board went about his business.
  16. Stasi
    Stasi April 16 2014 09: 56
    0
    As stated in the article, "Cook" is an extremely powerful attack and versatile ship, surpassing any other ships in combat capabilities. There are no analogues of such a ship in the Russian Navy yet. I would like to know if it is planned to create such ships for our fleet.
    1. Corsair0304
      Corsair0304 April 17 2014 12: 05
      +3
      Is it necessary? "Cook" was created primarily for participation in the AUG, we do not have such and are not planning to. As for the coolness and consistency - find at least a faint resemblance of "Peter the Great" among amers. Middle class warships are being built in Russia and even launched, although not in such quantities as we would like. Well, the budgets are still incomparable ...
  17. KaKaDu
    KaKaDu April 16 2014 09: 57
    17 th
    Can anyone explain what the sacred meaning of flying around with a lone unarmed plane of a ship stuffed with air defense systems did not indulge in at all? If you wanted to show off and show who was at the World Cup center, you had to send something more seriously: a couple of Tu-22Ms with missiles (at least training, at a distance of figs, sort it out) or some kind of destroyer. And so, consider, just a hedgehog scared bare ass.
    1. svd-xnumx
      svd-xnumx April 16 2014 12: 45
      +7
      gathering intelligence, operating parameters of the cook radars and any other crap that carries this trough.
    2. papik09
      papik09 April 16 2014 16: 37
      +3
      Sorry, I put you a minus hi... Such a "bare ass" for this, like a hedgehog, is not a bad "Turkish warning" (that is, two at once: the first and the last). Don't figs climb where they don't ask, don't figs poke your nose where the dog doesn't stick a memberam! Not yours - DO NOT CLICK! TOUCH - TABU !!! You can also rake over the head with a candelabrum laughing
      1. KaKaDu
        KaKaDu April 16 2014 17: 32
        14 th
        What this mega-warning consists of, tell me. Just show that we have at least one aircraft capable of flying? Americans already know. What is it in peacetime and in neutral waters not hesitated to fly closer? So regularly fly both ours and theirs ours.
        In fact, the whole episode of the egg isn’t worth it, just in the current situation, ours and theirs decided not to miss the opportunity to once again show themselves in front of each other in the media.
        1. Vanko
          Vanko April 16 2014 22: 44
          +1
          Well yes, no warning. So, flew, show off, wrote down something ...
          27 people dashed applications for dismissal. Go Libyans with Iraqis did not make such overflights smile
          1. KaKaDu
            KaKaDu April 17 2014 08: 38
            +1
            Quote: Vanko
            27 people dismissed applications for dismissal

            They all settled down like parrots. Where, well, where did this information about 27 people come from? No one has any links to the source; the bourgeoisie have not a word about this at all. The data, along the way, came from the OBS Agency.
    3. Com T-64a
      Com T-64a April 17 2014 19: 06
      +3
      Our naked ass is worse than any mattress hedgehog !!! IMHO! 150 gr. a little white, rough terrain, a good crew + low turret turning speed at the M1A1, and my 64ka will completely push it into melee ... Although it’s elderly ... They knew how to build cars ...
    4. magosvel
      magosvel April 17 2014 21: 58
      0
      Here is a hedgehog and lost 27 "needles" at once))).
  18. Leshka
    Leshka April 16 2014 10: 06
    -1
    the cowards must have dirtied the whole deck laughing
  19. tank64rus
    tank64rus April 16 2014 10: 33
    +3
    Pilots themselves will not fly around at such a time without instructions from above. Therefore, amers simply showed that their dominance in the world is over and they will no longer be tolerated. I think that the destroyer crew was not very pleased to survive the psychological attack of the "unpredictable" Russian pilot, wondering if he had a weapon, and twelve times.
    1. KaKaDu
      KaKaDu April 16 2014 10: 47
      +3
      Quote: tank64rus
      I think that the destroyer's crew was not very pleased to survive the psychological attack of the "unpredictable" Russian pilot, wondering if he had a weapon, and twelve times.

      1. Missiles under the belly of the plane are not weak on the radar, so I think the Americans determined the presence of weapons on the radar in advance. After the first flight - for sure.
      2. The plane dangling a kilometer from the ship is a dubious danger: it is well seen and "guided" by all shipborne air defense systems. One suspicious sneeze - and the plane turns into a sieve. You don't even need missiles: the Phalanxes can handle it.
      In general, the question of who showed whom to whom and what remains open.
      1. basmach
        basmach April 16 2014 20: 41
        +3
        well, first of all, the missiles themselves practically do not "fade" (I don't remember such as the Kh-59, but there are Kh-29T and L, but they are small warheads on them - 250 kg OFAB, and they did not use a telehead in my time), This is not an X-22 for tuschek. But the very fact of Sushka's discovery only visually speaks of the complete unsuitability of the destroyer's air defense system. By the way, at 90, together with our 523 Orsha apib, the Berlin TB regiment was stationed in Vozdvizhenka. So they flew "low-low" on the Tu-16 over the aircraft carrier and took a photo of the deck (they just didn’t throw it), and the Yankees did not see them until the last moment and did not raise them to intercept. And we will not talk about 22M2 and 3.
        1. KaKaDu
          KaKaDu April 16 2014 22: 11
          -6
          Quote: basmach
          the rockets themselves practically do not "glow"

          Yeah, and on all sorts of F-22s and T-50s, they are being cleaned inside the body exclusively for the sake of beauty.

          Quote: basmach
          But the fact of the discovery of Drying only visually speaks of the complete unsuitability of the air defense system of the destroyer.

          And where does it say "only visually"?

          Quote: basmach
          So they flew a Tu-16 "low-low" over the aircraft carrier and took a photo of the deck (they just didn’t throw it), but the Yankees didn’t see them until the last moment and didn’t raise them to intercept.

          And how did they determine that the Americans did not see them directly? The reluctance to raise planes to intercept can be explained simply: it is impossible to shoot down an insolent one fig, so is it worth burning kerosene idle. And then, if it is "low-low", you can put it and missiles without problems, if you pin it.
          1. romandostalo
            romandostalo April 17 2014 01: 55
            0
            Really flew to Tu 16 there is even a video. And really above the deck itself.
          2. kotvov
            kotvov April 18 2014 10: 40
            0
            hear the parrot, don’t you think that you’re already sick of your brain, if you’re so smart, you’ll go to the American Navy. You’ll shine, you’ll bring down all the insolents,
            1. KaKaDu
              KaKaDu April 18 2014 11: 39
              0
              Quote: kotvov
              don't you think that you’re already sick of your brain

              Your brains, as I understand it, are not held in high esteem?
          3. in to
            in to April 18 2014 16: 14
            0
            And how did they determine that the Americans did not see them directly? The reluctance to raise planes to intercept can be explained simply: it is impossible to shoot down an insolent one fig, so is it worth burning kerosene idle. And then, if it is "low-low", you can put it and missiles without problems, if you pin it.

            Since they didn’t raise the planes, it means they didn’t see. The passage of the bomber over the ship is his (ship's) destruction. Just as we are talking now, and after a second you knocked out a missed strike. Or do you think that the enemy will warn you about the start of the war.
            1. KaKaDu
              KaKaDu April 18 2014 18: 11
              0
              Quote: wko
              The passage of a bomber over a ship is its destruction.

              The passage of a bomber over a ship is the destruction of a bomber. Air defense is not only provided by aviation, but at the same time they ridicule.

              Quote: wko
              Or do you think that the enemy will warn you about the beginning of the war.

              Wars do not suddenly begin; war is always preceded by a threatened period. In peacetime, they may not particularly react to a bomber, they will simply not be allowed to let a bomb threaten it at a distance of missile launch. In any case, he no longer flies over the deck.
  20. saps
    saps April 16 2014 10: 38
    0
    it would be cool if our TU-95 flew over them or nearby at a low altitude .... the Yankees would go deaf
    1. deputy ___ watered
      deputy ___ watered April 16 2014 14: 35
      +1
      95 is not very loud, any flare or sou is louder!
      1. spech
        spech April 21 2014 23: 23
        0
        95 is not very loud, any flare or sou is louder!

        95 quiet laughing
  21. Finist
    Finist April 16 2014 10: 45
    0
    They showed what we are capable of. So keep it up.
  22. Andy J.
    Andy J. April 16 2014 10: 59
    18 th
    Demonstration "flying" to then proudly demonstrate on Channel One :) Yankees go wherever they please, because they can afford.

    The destroyer is most likely hanging out to observe the airborne and EM environment. Well, a pennant demonstration there, etc.

    If the States were planning something serious, then there would be not a lone destroyer but AUG. Although no one will launch AUG into the Black Sea - not on the same scale.
    1. Absurdidat
      Absurdidat April 16 2014 12: 22
      15
      What does the first channel have to do with it? They did everything perfectly, the Americans gave out what nonsense they said: they say, "these provocative and unprofessional actions do not correspond to Russian national rules and previous agreements on military cooperation"))) LoL !!!! They understood what they wrote and why?!?! What are the "national rules of Russia" ??? What agreements, we are under sanctions, they themselves announced the termination of cooperation ... Nonsense, they really did act, otherwise they wouldn’t blurt out about it anywhere if they were really cool and confident. And here it is not even normal to formulate statements. Here's to them and "unprofessional actions." In my opinion, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Defense of Russia worked together for 5! )))
    2. ssergn
      ssergn April 16 2014 18: 42
      +3
      If they wanted to, wherever it pleased, they would have gone into our terra waters, that is, if they were completely FSU. Then they would be raked, and legally. Believe me.
  23. Wiruz
    Wiruz April 16 2014 11: 04
    0
    What kind of a "politeness" trick? Did I miss something?
    1. La-5
      La-5 April 16 2014 12: 47
      +2
      In Crimea, polite green men politely blocked Ukrainian military units, politely kept order and calm on a semi-island.
    2. 97110
      97110 April 17 2014 16: 45
      +1
      I can't give a link, the point is that silent people in an incomprehensible form, when they first visited some administrative building in Crimea, first put the police guard face down on the floor, then, after finding out that they were Crimean, raised them to their feet, returned the pistols and asked for help carry weights. All the questions of the running correspondents were silent. The interviews were given by policemen, who said that they were treated "politely". I read it the other day, even on this site.
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    4. Berkut-UA
      Berkut-UA April 19 2014 03: 07
      0
      The plane VERY POLITELY circled 12 times making circles of honor
      to our American "partners".
  24. Yun Klob
    Yun Klob April 16 2014 11: 16
    +1
    Obama has prepared a red pencil to draw a line.
  25. Energet1k_
    Energet1k_ April 16 2014 11: 56
    +9
    I can’t be responsible for the reliability, found on one of the forums
    And here is how it really was.
    "On April 12, the great day of cosmonautics, we equipped an unarmed SU-24 for overflight in neutral waters, but with the Khibiny under the wing. Then everything developed approximately according to the following scenario:" Cook "from afar spotted the approach of" drying ", played combat alert and froze at the combat posts. Everything went normally, the radars were calculating the course of approach to the target, the Aegis regularly controlled the guidance systems. And suddenly - bang! Everything went out. The Aegis does not work, the screens show dregs, even the Phalanxes are not In the meantime, the SU-24 passed over the Cook's deck, made a combat turn and simulated a missile attack on the target. Of course, a successful one - after all, there was no opposition! Then it turned around and simulated another. And so on - 10 more times! All attempts of technicians to revive Aegis and give target designation for air defense failed, and only when the silhouette of the “drying” melted in a haze over the Russian coast, the screens came to life, and the guidance systems faithfully showed the clear, shining empty April sky.
    Let me summarize. Most likely, after the SU-24 switched on in the immediate vicinity of the "Cook", "Khibiny", the entire air defense of the destroyer went out of order. Ours, while checking the efficiency of the electronic warfare system, simulated an attack on an American ship 12 (!) Times. During all this time, the ship's crew could not reanimate the extinguished CIUS. She earned it only when the SU-24 headed for the base. It was then that, realizing their own powerlessness against the electronic warfare complex of an ordinary bomber, 27 people and filed a resignation report. "
    1. Hort
      Hort April 16 2014 12: 32
      0
      an interesting opinion, but in a combat situation it would hardly have been allowed to fly up with impunity. Or does the Khibiny have a long range?
      1. Tektor
        Tektor April 16 2014 23: 40
        0
        Enough to be covered by a radio horizon ...
    2. KaKaDu
      KaKaDu April 16 2014 12: 41
      +1
      The story is beautiful, I would like to believe, but something is doubtful. How would I like to know that the author of the story has such details about the amer’s air defense? Was he personally sitting in the wheelhouse and seeing the extinguished radars?
      1. SAMARA
        SAMARA April 17 2014 02: 43
        +3
        From the pilot SUSHKI .. ​​the plane can fix the capture on itself .. in my opinion .. if I’m not mistaken ... but I really would have scouted the plane with EW containers .. I’ve recorded all frequency ranges, all emissions from systems, full radio field so to speak. Maybe he did it? 12 times already.
    3. sub307
      sub307 April 17 2014 19: 53
      0
      I confirm there is: http: //sdelanounas.ru/? Module = Blogs & action = View & id = 48815
      1. KaKaDu
        KaKaDu April 17 2014 21: 24
        -2
        Quote: sub307
        http://sdelanounas.ru/?module=Blogs&action=View&id=48815

        And at the end of the article:
        everything stated here is just my logical construction

        In general, idle chatter.
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  26. Roman-kzn
    Roman-kzn April 16 2014 12: 09
    +6
    Quote: Dubox
    Before departure, it was necessary to send this photo to Donald Cook. The effect would be even greater.

    With a question - which of the following do you want to choose? laughing
    1. papik09
      papik09 April 16 2014 16: 40
      +1
      I CHOOSE FSE! wassat
  27. nika08
    nika08 April 16 2014 13: 00
    +2
    Yes, Americans are only "heroes" to fight the civilian population. Here they are ahead of the rest of the planet, and as soon as a serious enemy appears, full pants immediately.
  28. Nikich
    Nikich April 16 2014 13: 16
    +3
    Quote: Roman-kzn
    Quote: Dubox
    Before departure, it was necessary to send this photo to Donald Cook. The effect would be even greater.

    With a question - which of the following do you want to choose? laughing

    It’s not easy to say that we will randomly choose from this arsenal
  29. xomaNN
    xomaNN April 16 2014 14: 18
    0
    Such psychological warfare comes with a risk for the crews. Usually, the truth is the boat is sent to look after the "stranger". Could any unnecessary IPC ex. Ukrainian. send (if at least one smile )
    1. Vanko
      Vanko April 16 2014 22: 54
      0
      Why repeat it? Variety, it will be more fun))) Yesterday the ships piled up, today the plane flew in, tomorrow the submarine will pop up under the stern, it's not boring fellow
  30. staryivoin
    staryivoin April 16 2014 14: 20
    +1
    For the sake of fun, it was necessary to drive a pair of Tu - 160 over them, accompanied by the same Su-24. Maybe they changed their mattress flag to white for fear! This is a joke, but I suggest sending them a CD with a song
    "Our sea is restless, it rustles all day,
    Many secrets are buried in its fatal expanse "
  31. Zomanus
    Zomanus April 16 2014 14: 53
    +3
    In short hello glorious time of the cold war. They showed their bump, we are ours. On that and dispersed.
    1. Corsair0304
      Corsair0304 April 17 2014 12: 14
      +3
      Well, yes, something like that. Pipi ... And that the time of the Cold War is not frightening, you can get crepitus. Can't we live without cola and sneakers? Kvass and "Alenka" are better and healthier. It is much more offensive when in western brothels the Russian / Ukrainian speech of the service personnel sounds. This happens when the country is weak and people flee from it.
  32. sem-yak
    sem-yak April 16 2014 15: 02
    +2
    It is just how incomplete their navigation systems are that they have so deeply fornaken! Or maybe we were in a hurry, maybe they wanted to go over to the Russian side, but were embarrassed to ask, maybe we needed to drop a box of cookies from the plane! (Maybe it’s so customary with them)
  33. Aleksey24
    Aleksey24 April 16 2014 15: 03
    +2
    The heading on the ship is good. And so, well, a ship, well, with missiles and cho ... While their WTO cannot guarantee to hit our nuclear shield, they can dance with tambourines as much as they want.
    1. 97110
      97110 April 17 2014 16: 50
      0
      And you can go to the canteen by stairs, only there the ceiling is low. Immediately visible naval people.
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  34. k_ply
    k_ply April 16 2014 15: 20
    -3
    What is being discussed here? the crew of the destroyer could scare the Su-24 only with the noise of engines, earplugs and headphones, the crew had plenty of them, but the Su-20 really had a risk of being shot down by one of the two 24-mm volcano cannons, even if the plane was equipped with an anti-ship guided missile weapons (RCC), he could not use them at such close distances, so that "they show off in Africa too," to the delight of infants and overgrown people.
    The twelve-fold flyby of Donald Cook was purely demonstrative. To moderate the warlike fervor of the Pentagon, which sent the fifth warship to the region for the year, it is clear that the Black Sea has the right to be called African American. The Russian side needed to demonstrate its determination.

    Determination!? - nonsense! What was the "warlike fervor of the Pentagon"? The pilots were delighted that there was a reason to lift the car into the air.

    Let me remind you, besides Russia, there are other countries of the Black Sea basin: Turkey, Ukraine, Romania, Bulgaria and Georgia.
    1. k_ply
      k_ply April 16 2014 17: 07
      0
      Why risk their lives in vain? when it is impossible to shoot down an unfriendly aircraft, or soak a wounded man, or in front of a Taliban who has thrown weapons and surrenders, otherwise a military prison in Fort Leavenworth. The American junior military personnel make their choice not in favor of the Pentagon, and this trend has been outlined for a long time, the last time it was widely manifested in connection with the events in Syria and a possible military action there.
      It remains to note, fortunately, that everything worked out relatively peacefully and no one lost their nerves.
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      2. k_ply
        k_ply April 19 2014 15: 10
        +1
        And do not think that you know the mentality of Americans (explained above). After all, most of those who served in the native Navy and were in the crews of ships beyond the mooring pier of the sea were not seen. In Russia, there is just a shortage of experienced sailors who have seen the sea and know what it is and what are the harsh laws of survival. *
        *
        Quote: k_ply
        ... awesome heroism to drown in the lower blocked (which implies the struggle for the survivability of the ship) waterproof compartments that cannot be left without an order.

        If we consider that about 15% of the US military personnel (including the crews of the NK and submarines) are women, then 27 out of 280 crew members is relatively normal, their fleet should even be glad about the outflow of weaklings ("don't go to a fortuneteller," in this regard, they will come up with appropriate testing l / s fleet).
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    3. ssergn
      ssergn April 16 2014 18: 59
      +1
      So it’s not 90 in the yard to enjoy the opportunity to fly. Read about the average annual raid of military aircraft and FSE understand. Be sure that the purpose of this flyby was also very specific, it’s difficult for us to know the current.
      1. k_ply
        k_ply April 19 2014 16: 44
        +1
        The average annual raid for one pilot (as a standard for each), and not the average annual raid for one pilot based on the raid of the entire flight personnel of the Air Force, does not exceed 120 hours. The current situation and the requirements of the authorities (flying around new cars) make it possible to fly even more than this figure, but for individual crews (pilots) of individual squadrons. At one time, in the main NATO countries, the necessary minimum was supported by 180 hours.
        Quote: ssergn
        Be sure that the purpose of this flyby was also very specific, it’s difficult for us to find out ..

        Demonstrate presence, and do not pretend that you are a competent source. The secret radio electronic equipment is not tested by single (without a lead) UNAUTHORIZED aircraft "not of the first freshness", without appropriate support and support, the height of negligence, there are known cases of "catching" other people's secrets from the sea.
  35. Grabberxnumx
    Grabberxnumx April 16 2014 15: 48
    0
    From ren-tv at 23 00: "According to the leading news agencies of the world, last Saturday, April 12, 2014, a Russian Air Force plane, SU-24 (modification not specified), flew over the American destroyer Donald Cook, equipped with the latest American the ship's multi-service combat information and control system "Aegis", as well as armed with, among other things, cruise missiles "Tomahawk." On Monday, April 14, the Pentagon made an unexpectedly emotional comment on the event. said: “These provocative and unprofessional actions of Russia do not correspond to its national rules and previous agreements on professional cooperation between the armed forces of our countries.” Also, Warren clarified that the Russian Su-24 aircraft, which, apparently, did not have on its aboard military weapons, passed 12 times near a US Navy ship, on Saturday, when it was in international waters off the coast of Romania.
  36. Grabberxnumx
    Grabberxnumx April 16 2014 15: 50
    +3
    I don’t know how anyone, but to me such an emotional and even somewhere hysterical performance by a serious uncle from the Pentagon seemed very, very strange.

    After all, really: what is it that an EMERGENCY front-line bomber, frankly, not of the last generation, walked, albeit 12 times, near the newest, armed to the teeth, specializing in air defense, US destroyer? Indeed, for example, during the confrontation between the USSR and the USA, such overflights by airplanes of ships of both powers were made at almost every meeting of probable opponents. So what happened this time? What hurt the Americans so much? Moreover, according to the semi-official information that appeared on Runet’s secondary resources, after this incident, Donald Cook urgently called at the port of Romania and there 27 crew members wrote a letter of resignation and left or intended to leave the ship. This is indirectly confirmed by words from the same Pentagon statement. It states that this action demoralized the crew of the vessel. Here I was completely confused about what was happening. The fact is that this long-suffering destroyer, the USS Donald Cook (DDG-75) of the “Arly Burke” type, belongs to the class of URO destroyers, multi-purpose combat high-speed maneuvering ships designed to deal with submarines, aircraft (including missiles) and enemy ships, as well as for the protection and defense of ships or convoys when crossing the sea. The armament of this ship includes, among other things, two 6-barrel Phalanx missiles and up to 74 RIM-66 SM-2 Standard-2 missiles. In other words, the specialization of this ship is a fight not only against slow-moving low-maneuverable targets such as the SU-24, but also against targets much more difficult - with anti-ship missiles, which have a higher speed of movement and their maneuverability is unlimited by crew overload and stealth they are many times superior to the SU-24.
  37. Grabberxnumx
    Grabberxnumx April 16 2014 15: 50
    +6
    It would seem, what is there to demoralize - sit yourself, turn on the air defense, "Aegis", and practice, in close to real conditions, repelling the attack of a potential enemy's plane! But no, the crew was demoralized, 27 people wrote statements with the wording - "They are not going to risk their lives." So what happened in neutral waters? I suppose the answer lies behind such a mysterious name as "Khibiny". According to Wikipedia, the Khibiny is a mountain range on the Kola Peninsula, in the Murmansk region, located 150 km north of the Arctic Circle :) However, of course, the destroyer crew was intimidated by the wrong Khibiny. "Khibiny" is the newest Russian electronic warfare system, which will be installed on all promising Russian aircraft. I did not find any data about it, no matter how much I looked, but here it is written that the SU-24 has already been used in exercises in Buryatia. So, nothing can demoralize a military man like his own impotence! In light of the above, I see the situation as follows. On April 10, 2014, the above-mentioned destroyer arrived in the neutral waters of the Black Sea to carry out an intimidation and demonstration of force - in connection with Russia's adamant stance on Ukraine and Crimea. Before that, another American missile destroyer Trakstan was in the Black Sea, in violation of the Montreux convention. That is, there was a typical, beloved by Americans, mouse fuss - saber rattling and international rudeness. The reaction of Russia was calm, but deadly: on April 12, the great day of cosmonautics, we equipped an unarmed SU-24 for overflight in neutral waters, BUT with the Khibiny under the wing. Then everything developed approximately according to the following scenario: "Cook" noticed the approach of "drying" from a distance, played a combat alert and froze at the combat posts. Everything went on as usual, the radars calculated the course of approach to the target, the Aegis regularly controlled the guidance systems. And suddenly - bang! Everything went out. "Aegis" does not work, screens show dregs, even "Phalanxes" cannot receive target designation! SU-24, meanwhile, passed over the Cook's deck, made a combat turn and simulated a missile attack on the target. Of course, successful - because there is no opposition! Then he turned around and imitated another one. And so on - 10 more times! All attempts of technicians to revive Aegis and give target designation for air defense failed, and only when the silhouette of the “drying” melted in a haze over the Russian coast, the screens came to life, and the guidance systems faithfully showed the clear, shining empty April sky.
    I summarize. Most likely, after the SU-24 switched on in the immediate vicinity of the "Cook", "Khibiny", the entire air defense of the destroyer went out of order. Ours, while checking the efficiency of the electronic warfare system, simulated an attack on an American ship 12 (!) Times. During all this time, the ship's crew could not reanimate the extinguished CIUS. She earned it only when the SU-24 headed for the base. It was then that, realizing their own powerlessness against the electronic warfare complex of an ordinary bomber, 27 people and filed a resignation report. "
    A SOURCE
    http://vz.ru/news/2014/4/16/682258.html (в комментариях)
    1. KaKaDu
      KaKaDu April 16 2014 16: 05
      +3
      Someone will finally give a prooflink to all these tales about "Khibiny" and 27 resignation reports? I only see re-posts of the same comment; in bourgeois sources about the reports and the extinguished "Aegis" not a word at all.
      1. Corsair0304
        Corsair0304 April 17 2014 12: 21
        +2
        It would be strange for the bourgeoisie to start yelling happily about the extinguished Idges. After all, they still position him as the greatest cool guy. I think we will never wait for such information, unless someone from the Cook's crew gets to us.
        1. KaKaDu
          KaKaDu April 17 2014 13: 38
          +2
          Quote: Corsair0304
          It would be strange for the bourgeoisie to start yelling happily about the extinguished Idges.

          Of course. Therefore, it is surprising that our commentators know so many details about this probably secret event. A reasonable conclusion suggests itself: 27 reports and the defeated Aegis is just a duck.
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  38. DanSabaka
    DanSabaka April 16 2014 16: 29
    +1
    The sea does not like cowards .... A sailor, by definition, a HERO .... And a sailor serving in the most heroic, most efficient, most powerful, ready at any time, anywhere to defend and / or establish democracy in the US Navy - A SUPERHERO .... but the heroes are also teasing, and superheroes are teasing in a super-duper way, so the whole world is surprised ......

    Here is yesterday's article about the consequences of this incident:

    The Pentagon issued a statement stating that the Russian Su-24 bomber on Saturday several times flew near the US Navy destroyer Donald Cook in the Black Sea, simulating a military attack.

    As a Pentagon spokesman Colonel Stephen Warren told Reuters, a Russian bomber flew twelve times at low altitude not far from an American destroyer. He called these maneuvers intimidating and unacceptable, since this demoralizes the personnel of the ship and negatively affects the general psychological climate among the military personnel.

    Warren noted that the destroyer patrolled the waters in the west of the Black Sea when the incident occurred. According to him, now the ship is safe in the Romanian port, where it was urgently evacuated. The crew members undergo the necessary procedures with a psychologist to recover from the stress. 27 crew members of the destroyer filed a resignation report. Commenting on their actions, they said that they did not intend to endanger their lives.

    "Donald Cook" - the third, in a row, the US Navy ship, which was sent to the Black Sea in recent years. Earlier, the United States had already sent a missile frigate Taylor to the sea, but the ship ran aground off the Black Sea coast of Turkey, which is why it was unable to continue its mission.

    Under international maritime treaties, American ships cannot be in the Black Sea for more than 14 days, and exceeding this period gives Russia the legal right to launch a missile attack and destroy these ships without declaring US war. Knowing this possibility, crew members and commanders of American ships naturally worry about their lives. And although the Pentagon promised to increase the insurance amount of military personnel from 1 million dollars. up to 3 million dollars, it’s all the same, few people are reassured, since there are few chances to survive on the high seas and then get insurance payment, but the dead do not need money.

    As a result, the crew of the Donald Cook was forced to sail with a shortage of personnel, and the dismissal of another 27 crew members, who may be followed by others, jeopardizes the further successful implementation of the task. (FROM)
    1. k_ply
      k_ply April 16 2014 17: 51
      +1
      Haha awesome heroism drown in the lower blocked (which implies a struggle for the survivability of the ship) waterproof compartments that cannot be left without an order.

      PS: Where is the intelligible source about the "khibiny", in the light of events, the characteristics of the range of action-reaction are especially important, and so a fairy tale, children love them.
      1. ssergn
        ssergn April 16 2014 19: 03
        +4
        A nitshe that Khibiny is new? No one has canceled the privacy regime, so now look for the performance characteristics of this miracle.
      2. magosvel
        magosvel April 17 2014 22: 15
        0
        What kind of intelligence are we working on?))).
      3. DanSabaka
        DanSabaka April 19 2014 13: 58
        0
        about Khibiny infa later appeared.
        and what's the difference - Khibiny or not? It's not about technology, but about people ....
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    3. PATRIOT 13
      PATRIOT 13 April 17 2014 16: 55
      +1
      HOW GREATLY ..)) it is tougher, more impudent and uncompromising with America to be .. only so, everywhere and always!
  39. adler
    adler April 16 2014 16: 54
    0
    Continuing the theme of our SU - 24 mockery of the American destroyer Donald Cook. Very interesting article. Read) http://vk.com/wall-41232698_705287
    1. Corsair0304
      Corsair0304 April 17 2014 12: 27
      0
      Quote: adler
      http://vk.com/wall-41232698_705287

      The same as laid out on top. About "Khibiny", extinguished "Aegis" and so on.
  40. Grabberxnumx
    Grabberxnumx April 16 2014 17: 23
    +9
    The latest Khibiny radio-electronic jamming system makes any aircraft virtually invisible to all air defense systems. According to the director of the department of state defense orders of the Concern Radioelectronic Technologies OJSC Vladimir Mikheev, with the installation of such protection on the Su-30, Su-34, Su-35, their survivability objectively increased by 30 times. That is, it has become almost impossible to bring them down by the existing air defense systems in the world. http://nvo.ng.ru
    Source: http://nevskii-bastion.ru/khibiny/ MTC "NEVSKY BASTION" AVKarpenko

    Perhaps Khibiny rolled in before changing the diapers of Aegis operators.
  41. askold
    askold April 16 2014 18: 11
    +5
    Wow damn inspired ...
    Do not grab at the waist of others, escaping from the hands of your friends,
    Remember how the destroyer "Donald Cook" sailed to the shores of Romania
    So why, the Sukhoi did not like Cook, but we understand, the villain is hanging around.
    We passed on a shaver with a terrible sound, and they frightened Cook's team.
    However, there is still the assumption that Cook has shown great respect.
    But they could have passed almost without sound, with a terrible knock,
    Tuk on a superstructure and there is no Cook !!! am
    And yes, remove the chimpanzees from the wheelhouse, not a ship, but some kind of zoo.
  42. Skif
    Skif April 16 2014 18: 23
    +1
    As they say in certain (not the most adequate, of course, circles), Indos "zahazat" shkaryata!))) Nef.ig climb into the Black Sea, swim in Sargasso.
  43. Arzamas
    Arzamas April 16 2014 18: 41
    +2
    It was necessary to bark a couple of times from the window! lol
  44. Gray 43
    Gray 43 April 16 2014 19: 33
    +1
    It’s good that the staff didn’t enter the Black Sea on Air Force Day, then they would be met by everything that could even theoretically fly
  45. k_ply
    k_ply April 16 2014 20: 35
    +2
    Quote: ssergn
    A nitshe that Khibiny is new? No one has canceled the privacy regime, so now look for the performance characteristics of this miracle.

    Who said they would be found? But already in the tale, the detection and tracking of the carrier aircraft was described (the storyteller also kept records on the destroyer? Or did he know the features of the electronic warfare station?). Rumors confirming the use of "this miracle" from the opposite side are important, then everything will come together.
  46. postman
    postman April 16 2014 21: 52
    +2
    And I would like for him (Donald) to be slammed (well, purely by accident).
    IT'S JUST INTERESTING TO WATCH: how the air defense works, the fight for survivability, the effectiveness of the firecracker, and Kaptsov will also receive a weighty argument for the "can" thesis

    At the exercises on October 4, 2001, as a result of erroneous guidance, the rocket of the Ukrainian S-200 division, located at Cape Opuk in Crimea, shot down a civilian Tu-154 aircraft of Siberia Airlines flying from Tel Aviv (Israel) to Novosibirsk. 78 dead




    The mode of firing at ground targets is with the S-125 and S-75M air defense systems (and further modifications). Shooting only over the air.

    The S-200 theoretically (!) Cannot shoot at ground / surface targets. (Test firing report). But this is only theoretically: a shot "in the blind", capture of the seeker according to the external ROC after launch, bypass the synchronization with the ROC via the cable line can.....
    The work has not been completed, but it would be necessary (Yes, and Iran will come in handy)
    high-explosive fragmentation warhead 5B14Sh (about YaBCH 5V28N (V-880N) of course we are not talking): steel elements of a spherical shape having an initial expansion speed in static of 1700 m / s, diameter of striking elements 9,5 mm (21 thousand pieces) and 7,9 mm (16 thousand pieces). Only 37 thousand itemsDRUSHLAG from Donald is GUARANTEED



    The mass of the warhead - 220 kg.

    ================
    Call me as a reservist (then everything can be attributed to my lost professional suitability for the main VUS, due to the lack of practice, crooked hands, injuries, etc.) - I would try ...
    let them then introduce sanctions against me (entry ban, blocking accounts, well, etc.)
    1. postman
      postman April 16 2014 22: 10
      +1
      Quote: Postman
      And I would like for him (Donald) to be slammed (well, purely by accident).


      There is a report on surface targets
  47. Militia
    Militia April 16 2014 21: 53
    +4
    QUOTE: The crew members of the ship undergo the necessary procedures with a psychologist to recover from the stress. 27 crew members of the destroyer filed a resignation report. Commenting on their actions, they said that they did not intend to endanger their lives.

    Maybe they forgot, or maybe they were ashamed to write that the command of the destroyer "Donald Cook" for fear forgot to give the crew a double set of diapers and snotty. Therefore, NATO sailors have done well. Respect for Russian pilots. Dispelled the myth of the heroic sailors amers. It's only in the Disneyland movie that they are all heroes.
    1. DOTS
      DOTS April 18 2014 01: 03
      0
      27 crew members of the destroyer filed a resignation report.


      Well, what can I say, what can I say, all people want to know how the card will fall. What if something comes off from above? Scary - it's not a bison to shoot.
  48. Silver70
    Silver70 April 16 2014 22: 05
    +4
    soldier Yes, the Americans are a squeamish nation. No "Tomahawks" and "Harpoons", given the current state of Russian electronic warfare systems, are not afraid of Russia. And the Russian soldier reveals his best military qualities in a real one-on-one battle laughing
    1. postman
      postman April 16 2014 23: 23
      0
      Quote: Silver70
      with the current state of Russian electronic warfare systems, Russia is not afraid.

      Do not write nonsense.
      suppress by "Russian means of electronic warfare":
      Ins
      TERCOM
      DSMAC, and GPS (which is "from the top with 25000 km) at the same time!

      Huh?
      1. SAMARA
        SAMARA April 17 2014 02: 56
        -1
        GPS is jammed by an elementary device the size of a pack of cigarettes .. well, of course, an elementary device such as a navigator ..
        1. postman
          postman April 17 2014 11: 16
          +1
          Quote: SAMARA
          . Well, naturally, an elementary device such as a navigator ..

          Try to drown my (or your) navigator.
          WILL BE UNKNOWNLY surprised: it will not work
          American experiments with a boat (or a model of a helicopter) are all a bit different than what magazine magazines write.

          A military GPS would not have been possible to drown on the model
          1. SAMARA
            SAMARA April 18 2014 02: 40
            0
            Well, no .. I’m not referring to the journal but to physics ... GPS is a radio signal with a mandatory MUTUAL contact ... test, for example, the navigator itself must send the signal to the satellite for satellite calculation of the location, if the navigator does not send the signal it will not receive its coordinates, that is, the satellite does not need to be blocked so that the rocket loses its orientation in space. It is enough to drown out the transmitter on the rocket .. and this is achieved by a similar radio signal. and that’s all ... the rocket doesn’t know where it either explodes or flies anywhere ... there is still a moment such .. that for the normal functioning of navigation systems we need ground correction stations that check the exact time and static position for satellites .. and Russia is a huge country, it’s so huge that if you turn off all correction stations in Russia, then GPS will not have accuracy to 1 meter .. but it will be 10-15 meters .. minimum ..
            1. KaKaDu
              KaKaDu April 18 2014 08: 36
              +1
              Quote: SAMARA
              GPS is a radio signal with a mandatory MUTUAL contact ... test, for example, the navigator must send the signal to the satellite for calculation by the satellites

              If that were the case, each navigator in the kit would have an antenna with a diameter of two meters. And a diesel generator to feed lip happiness with all this happiness.
              The navigator is a purely receiving device. It catches signals from several satellites (one of them serves to synchronize time) and with the help of a tricked matan, he considers his location using these signals.
  49. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 April 16 2014 22: 06
    +2
    it was just one airplane out of many. and if it flies a little larger, they will run away on oars!
  50. Amateur
    Amateur April 16 2014 22: 39
    0
    So let us write down that the "Khibiny" question turned out to be disastrous for the subtle psyche of brave sailors from the opposite half of the globe. As the character of Andrei Mironov used to say in the film "An Ordinary Miracle" - "it is necessary to warn." You look, and arrogant Yankees would not have thrust themselves into the Russian Sea. And they would save on paper. And not only on writing (when filing reports on dismissal), but also on the toilet.