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Who are we?

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I call death, look not able to bole,
How a decent husband perishes in poverty
And the villain lives in beauty and hall;
How does the confidence of the pure souls hang around?
How chastity threatens shame
How honors are given to scoundrels
As the power of niknet before arrogant gaze,
As everywhere in life triumphant rogue;
As the art of arbitrariness mocks,
As mindlessness rules the mind,
As in the clutches of evil painfully languishing
All that we call Good ...
William Shakespeare, Sonnet 66. Translation by O. Rumer


This essay was written by me 17 May 2011 of the year. Today’s Ukrainian events again and again bring me back to the main topic of this essay: “Who are we?”

I saw videos of TV about how Ukraine treats veterans of the Great Patriotic War. I saw again the shaved heads of the younger generation, which were hardly restrained by the troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. This is not the first report on a similar topic. I saw videotapes of TV, I saw how veterans in all parts of the country were severely beaten or simply killed only in order to take possession of the military reward obtained by those who looked at death in the face, without the courage and heroism of which other scum would never be born .

I have already written more than once that an adequate response is absolutely necessary for any influence. A decade on the scale of the universe and eternity - a moment. You should not rely on the fact that today did not bring justice, that a scoundrel, a scum, a murderer is not punished. Punishment is coming, coming is sure and inevitable, everyone will be rewarded according to his deeds.

With pain and great regret, I see the same picture that has been going on for several millennia: we — brothers by blood, the Slavic-Aryan peoples — are confronted in any conflicts, trying to eradicate our, the oldest race on Earth. Let the Ukrainians, Belarusians, Germans, Russians do not think that they are somehow better than each other. The blood of the most ancient genera flows in their veins; they are actually blood brothers. Only there are always people willing to sell everything, betray everyone and kill their brothers. And those who remain in the shadow of the directors of violence, debauchery, terror, wars, murders that bring evil to the world, only rub their hands. What we are foolish and weak! Are we worthy of being called a man if we are ready for such actions?

Recently, on the holiday of the victory over fascism, I wrote: "So many losses, so many broken lives, destinies, so much blood have been shed that never mourn all the losses, all the grief, all the suffering that befell Slavic-Aryan clans. Nationalism was soil, and fascism - a tool to bring together the brothers in blood in the war: the Slavic-Aryan peoples. Recall, at least the so-called Kulikovo battle. was in place of Moscow Kulisek. That, citizens war of war (yes, yes, not with the Tatars, as the distorted one tells us история), which claimed tens of thousands of Russian lives, cleared the way for the Romanov dynasty, which methodically destroyed all information about our true history, is also an accident? Not! There is, obviously, that there are forces that hate the Slavic-Aryan peoples who want to destroy the most ancient races by any means, by any means. Drugs, tobacco, vodka, mixed marriages - a small fraction of modern means of destroying our fundamental principle - the gene pool, depriving us of the future. Nobody speaks about the rights of Russians, indigenous people of Russia, even from a high tribune. They speak about the rights of so-called “minorities”, but not about Russians, that’s for sure. And the fact that we persevered, that our, Russian, freedom-loving people cannot be broken and made slaves, has been confirmed and confirmed throughout the history of mankind. I was sick of watching the parade broadcast from Red Square, where the president was lying on the armchair, lounging in a chair, was sitting, and a smile was painted on his face, as if he were watching a funny act in the theater, causing him to euphoria. At all times, the parade was taken standing, paying tribute to the courage, heroism, inflexible spirit of the Russian people. And now they are ready to bring a jacuzzi to Red Square together with the president, so long as he is comfortable and nothing distracts him from everyday pastime. I didn’t like the speech of the president, in which an equal sign between nationalism and fascism was openly put. It would be better if he just silently entered the podium and spread around his chair. "

Who are we, if bloodshed, fratricide are elevated to the rank of norms, if the media enthusiastically implant Western values, the cult of violence, wealth and power? Who are we, if those in power do not serve the people, but consider the people and use them as slaves? Who are we, if we are afraid to say what we think, and if by our inertness we bring to power those who only profit from the troubles of the people? Who are we - the people of planet Earth?
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  1. JoylyRoger
    JoylyRoger April 16 2014 16: 02
    +2
    It's time to finally understand
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    2. from punk
      from punk April 16 2014 16: 15
      0
      Quote: JoylyRoger
      It's time to finally understand

      Well, so far it’s clear. whoever doesn’t ride one ...
    3. mongoose
      mongoose April 16 2014 19: 18
      0
      the author is a creditable Russophobe, dressed in the "patriot" toga! the same t ... b as the pravoseki and other supporters of bebiks and fomenok, aphids ... di
      1. Turkir
        Turkir April 16 2014 22: 26
        +3
        Yes, he quietly attributed the Germans to us, as if by the way.
        Haplogroup Aryan R1a1 among all Slavs and higher castes of India. Brahmanas reach 90%!
        Look through the Sanskrit dictionary, water-vata, fire-agni, etc. .. The Vedas call the holy city, which is 12 years old, the name Varuna. This is Voronezh, with the river Vorona!
        All rivers with the smallest tributaries described in the Vedas are completely superimposed on the map of Russia. Some tributaries have retained their own names until now!
        What did the Germans, immigrants from Kara-Kum, have to do with the Aryans, with our ancestors? NO.
        The lackey worship of the Germans, who supplanted the Slavs.
        One can be proud of our history if, of course, you know it!
  2. sem-yak
    sem-yak April 16 2014 16: 03
    +15
    Well hto, I don’t know. I here I am Russian. And I advise you to quickly decide. And then, how is that picture about a fight in smoke and nothing is not visible. And the most important thing for me to understand is who am I with? And then the course will be clear and the path will not be scary! And even if our paths are opposite, I will only be glad that true thoughts and desires became clear! One thing is not clear - do you want to go to Europe like that, why impose your opinion on others, persuade?
    1. Ev58
      April 16 2014 21: 41
      +1
      Not even hooked. I react to such speeches no more than a soldier reacts to a louse, which, although it causes inconvenience, is incapable of influencing the outcome of the battle, morale and fighting skills. People with a reaction like yours are easy to manage and their actions are clearly predictable.
  3. DimYang
    DimYang April 16 2014 16: 05
    +3
    That civil war (yes, yes, not with the Tatars, as a distorted history suggests), which claimed tens of thousands of Russian lives, cleared the way for the Romanov dynasty, which methodically destroyed all information about our true history, is it also an accident?

    I completely agree with the author. And not only in the above words.
    1. mongoose
      mongoose April 16 2014 19: 19
      0
      why don’t you jump?
      1. DimYang
        DimYang April 16 2014 23: 15
        -1
        If you didn’t understand what the article was about, then you'd better be silent.
  4. joum
    joum April 16 2014 16: 09
    +12

    For those who have already decided
    1. skifd
      skifd April 16 2014 19: 23
      +2
      Quote: joum
      For those who have already decided


      I will support with another joke:

  5. Coffee_time
    Coffee_time April 16 2014 16: 10
    +3
    Many pages of history have been erased to such an extent that you will never find the end
    1. mongoose
      mongoose April 16 2014 19: 19
      -5
      Well, why do you need it? you're not Russian, not Orthodox. Are you probably a Marxist? or a martian?
      1. Ev58
        April 16 2014 21: 44
        +2
        Not even hooked. I react to such speeches no more than a soldier reacts to a louse, which, although it causes inconvenience, is incapable of influencing the outcome of the battle, morale and fighting skills. People with a reaction like yours are easy to manage and their actions are clearly predictable.
  6. Oleg Sobol
    Oleg Sobol April 16 2014 16: 14
    +3
    A sober look at real history, amid the mass of "pseudo-historical" variations on the theme ...
    1. Cherdak
      Cherdak April 16 2014 18: 41
      +2
      Quote: Oleg Sobol
      A sober look at real history, amid the mass of "pseudo-historical" variations on the theme ...

      Then even the Poles began to realize that something was going wrong:
      Why is Russia allowed everything? ("Blogpublika", Poland)

      That’s all: that’s why Putin will lead to the partition of Ukraine, then he will occupy the Baltic countries, and then he will surely put his people in the Belvedere Palace and on the Uyazdovsky Alleys. After all, he will not capture Poland with the help of the army - what's the point?

      And we in the EU can only discuss how stupid Putin is, how the Russian economy will suffer from real sanctions, and other such nonsense.

      In the context of (seemingly more and more likely recently) the approaching economic decline of China, it may turn out that in the next chapter of the history of mankind Russia will gain economic power over the world.

      Read more: http://inosmi.ru/russia/20140416/219619200.html#ixzz2z3oEhiaD
    2. mongoose
      mongoose April 16 2014 19: 21
      0
      hee-hee-hee-hee-hee, sober? Well, yes, we are Russian drunks, you are Jews and podevreichik, "teetotalers", aphids the further the more "patriots" - Russophobes
      1. Ev58
        April 16 2014 21: 53
        0
        I devoted three whole sentences to your speeches, but I see that there is a lot of this. For some people, the mind is a luxury, and the thought process is inadmissible in principle. Think more and work on your reactions. You are too unsteady - this is also useful to you if you want to become a rationally minded person, a rational person. All the best, mongoose!
  7. Same lech
    Same lech April 16 2014 16: 16
    +10
    Who are we, if bloodshed and fratricide are elevated to the rank of norm, if the media enthusiastically impose Western values, a cult of violence, wealth and power?



    Divide and conquer ... just like that they torn YUGOSLAVIA.

    This also threatened in the 90s and RUSSIA ... thank God stopped in time.

    Well, in fact, with us, our enemies act as exactly as much as we allow them to do this.

    As soon as the active resistance of our people to any attempts to break our identity begins, the situation immediately changes radically.

    Therefore, some things should be elevated to the rank of state policy ... for example

    there should be a taboo on pouring mud on our heroes (and indeed our history) .. for five years to plant those who do it.

    for any calls for civil war to plant without any pity.

    For humiliation of the national dignity of citizens of RUSSIA to punish publicly (no matter who it is, Russian, Jewish or Chechen) - only in this way we will ensure international peace.

    to put an impenetrable barrier for advancement into the highest power of adventurers and extremists of all stripes.

    and then.
  8. gladysheff2010
    gladysheff2010 April 16 2014 16: 17
    +2
    I don’t understand something, the author blames someone and calls for something, but you, dear, who will you be for?
    1. Ev58
      April 16 2014 21: 47
      -1
      It’s bad if you don’t understand, but good if you want to understand.
    2. Turkir
      Turkir April 17 2014 00: 06
      0
      It’s clear for whom, for the new Fuhrer. A stranger wants to replace our story.
      Ukrainian script.
  9. Grenz
    Grenz April 16 2014 16: 18
    +10
    We will find out who we are and who you are very soon - on May 9, 2014 in Kiev and the cities of western Ukraine.
    We learn how the grandchildren and great-grandchildren of the Bendera’s rehabilitated rehabilitated Khrushchevs will (surely be — they have already been imprisoned for this) with the full connivance of the police (and the silence of the townsfolk) mock our veterans.
    That will be the answer to the question "Who are we?"
    We are those who betrayed their fathers and grandfathers, who defended our land from fascism.
    We, those who did not educate while working in schools, did not put into the neophyte’s heads that it is shameful to scoff at the eternal flame. We are those who calmly watch how desecrating monuments. We are those who cross out everything from the TV grid that at least somehow reminds of patriotism.
    That is who we are.
    We are Ivan "not remembering kinship." This is who we are.
    1. Ev58
      April 16 2014 16: 45
      +4
      Harsh, unpleasant, but true.
      1. mongoose
        mongoose April 16 2014 19: 22
        -2
        Yeah, you my friend Vlasov? or a sectarian, like Turchinov?
    2. mongoose
      mongoose April 16 2014 19: 22
      -1
      and this is nothing? that they were bred by communists like kaganovich?
      in a truly "Russian surname, or ukroinets-bronstein
  10. Submarine B-41
    Submarine B-41 April 16 2014 16: 20
    +16
    We are Russians, and therefore we will win!
    Do not add, do not turn it down!
    1. Ev58
      April 16 2014 16: 47
      +2
      Right. Many conquerors broke off their "teeth" on the borders of Russia.
      1. mongoose
        mongoose April 16 2014 19: 23
        0
        sooner or later everything. but some are late, such as the Mongol-Tatars, Poles and Jews, Communists, drank a lot of Russian blood
  11. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. April 16 2014 16: 23
    -1
    With pain and great regret, I see the same picture that has been going on for several millennia:

    I don’t know why, but when they start talking about almost 10 thousand-year history I feel like a sucker who is bred. So there are enough injustices in our history.
    Quote: PL B-41
    We are Russians

    Exactly "Мы-Russian ", not in vain a great man.
  12. Name
    Name April 16 2014 16: 25
    0
    Who are we... recourse Wild Asians, unyielding and unwilling to "culturally" develop. Well, how not to remember the old days ... and it will immediately become clear who WE ARE NOT ...
  13. Isk1984
    Isk1984 April 16 2014 16: 26
    +10
    In western Ukraine, they invented a new seismic weapon, code-named "Hto do not jump - that one." During the tests, the Crimean peninsula fell off and a crack formed along the Donbass. The tests are ongoing ...
    1. Nikaviz
      Nikaviz April 16 2014 16: 46
      +5
      He laughed .... bully
  14. buzer
    buzer April 16 2014 16: 29
    +4
    half an hour ago, we three Kazakhs just sat down and drank five hundred grams of vodka ... At the same time, we did not think about Ukraine, nor about Russia, nor even about our native Kazakhstan ... We just sat and talked about this and that. .. We did not think who we were, why we ... Why ??? We are who we are ... But we talked about our children !!! To hell with politics, there is nothing more important than our children ...
    1. Grenz
      Grenz April 16 2014 16: 45
      +4
      But Merkel at one of the conferences gave the Chinese a geographical map, where part of Russia and all of Kazakhstan are marked as Chinese territory.
      What if the Chinese take and believe and come under your windows, where you drink vodka.
      Children - protect your dad!
      No sonny - vodka is more expensive!
      Nonsense, of course, you’ll go to the defense, Maybe you want it without politics, but that doesn’t depend on us.
      1. buzer
        buzer April 16 2014 17: 14
        -1
        I laid on the Chinese and other nations ... Neh ... quit scaring us with the Chinese and other nations. Scare someone else’s thread ... We were Kazakhs, are and will be !!!
        1. mongoose
          mongoose April 16 2014 19: 25
          0
          maybe you will, but most likely not, if the majority like you
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      3. siberalt
        siberalt April 16 2014 17: 26
        -1
        I looked at that card. China there is limited by a wall from the north and without inner Mongolia from the west. Now the wall is inside China.
    2. Ev58
      April 16 2014 16: 49
      +1
      While you are drinking vodka, another child is raising your child. The result - we have what we have, including and because of this position.
    3. cucun
      cucun April 16 2014 18: 03
      0
      Alas, it is also important where these children grow up and with whom they will live ...
    4. mongoose
      mongoose April 16 2014 19: 25
      0
      and their future in a concentration camp?
  15. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 April 16 2014 16: 29
    +2
    You first decide who you are. If you are with RUSSIA, UKRAINE, BELARUS, then you are our BROTHER. And if you are from the USA and NATO, then go to them and sing tales there. Maybe they will even give you work, somewhere in ROMANIA or in MEXICO as a janitor - if you pull it. good
    1. Ev58
      April 17 2014 08: 55
      0
      The essay, if you read it carefully, is so clear and transparent that you don't really have to strain the gray matter of the brain. The biggest problems in life, and especially in the Army, are from individuals like you or the so-called. "mongoose", which are easy to provoke, their reactions are inadequate, they do not have endurance and the ability to calmly analyze the situation, they easily start quarrels, fights and riots, and often turn out to be a tool in the wrong hands. In order not to overload your brain with the thought process, I inform you that the essay was primarily about the veterans of the Great Patriotic War, the attitude towards them, the sacred memory of the heroism and courage of those to whom we owe the victory over fascism, about the attitude (which can be documented on videos of 2011) of the head of the country to this memory, that behind any bloodshed are directors and scriptwriters who are least often talked about, that there are extremist forces that are pushing various nations, religions and races in bloody wars, simply exterminating them ... You and some speakers need to be able to read, analyze material, respect other people, work on your reactions and speech. All the best!
  16. Arh
    Arh April 16 2014 16: 32
    +2
    What foreign word "patriot" is the Russian name?
    Here is Russia
    Here Russia Smells.
    Fell in love with Russia, I Without Memory! ! ! * * *
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      2. siberalt
        siberalt April 16 2014 17: 27
        -1
        But there is something to "fry"! laughing
    3. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru April 16 2014 18: 03
      +2
      Quote: Arh
      What foreign word "patriot" is the Russian name?

      Russian.
  17. individual
    individual April 16 2014 16: 38
    +4
    The trouble of Russia, no matter how it was called in the past, is that each ruler made an editing of history for himself.
    The original sources of the great Russian history are lost.
    I read Vasily Yanchevetsky (Jan) about the Tatar-Mongol yoke.
    All three volumes are fiction that does not have historical authenticity. It was written talentedly, very entertainingly, but as an artistic presentation, and not as a chronicle of a historical moment.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru April 16 2014 18: 05
      +1
      Quote: individ
      The original sources of the great Russian history are lost.

      There are brains, there are facts, there are writers.
      Yesterday, 17:21 | “In the East of Ukraine the red banner of the social revolution rises”
      Quote: Per se.
      it’s time to remember that Kiev is the mother of Russian cities, and the territory under the name ... As for Orthodoxy, it began with Kievan Rus in our country
      I give the name: Alexey Kungurov. Kievan Rus was not, or what historians hide.
      Drive into the search engine, download, read. I assure you will not regret it. There and about Kiev and about Russia and about baptism. Then you can share your impressions in PM.
      1. mongoose
        mongoose April 16 2014 19: 27
        0
        yeah, who’s talking about something, and the Jews about socialism with gentile slaves
      2. Turkir
        Turkir April 17 2014 00: 13
        0
        Kiev is the mother of Russian cities

        It should be read in modern Russian - Kiev CAPITAL of Russian cities.
        Yes, but at that point in history, then there were others.
      3. Ev58
        April 17 2014 09: 11
        0
        In my essay "Barbarians", written on August 20.08.2011, XNUMX, I noted:
        "At first glance, it may seem that the primary source of Christianity - Judaism should have the same basis, but, oddly enough, this is not so. For the Jews - the Old Testament, in a certain form transformed into the Torah, which is essentially the Bible of the Jews, and for Christians - the New Testament.
        In the first case, we see the religion of the greedy conqueror:

        10. When you approach the city to conquer it, then offer him peace
        11. And it will be, if he answers you with peace and opens you, then let all the people who are in him pay you tribute and serve you.
        12. If he does not surrender to you and wage war with you, then besiege him.
        13. And when God, your Almighty, gives it into your hands, then kill all men with his sword tip.
        14. Only women, and children, and livestock, and everything that will be in the city, take all its prey, take it for yourself, and use the prey of your enemies, whom God, your Almighty, has given you.
        15. So do with all the cities, very distant from you, which are not from the cities of these peoples.
        16. In the cities of these peoples, which God, your Almighty, gives you as an inheritance, do not leave a soul alive.
        17. But destroy them: the Hittites, and the Emorians, the Canaanites, and the prize winners, the Hebrews, and the Jebusites, as God Almighty commanded you.
        18. So that they would not teach you to do like all their abominations that they did for their Gods, and you would not sin before God, your Almighty.

        The Pentateuch and the Haftaroth. The book "Dvarim", Shoftim XX, 10-18, 1210-1211s.

        In the second case, the religion of slaves, calling for humility and humility.
        No wonder Peter I at one time abolished the Patriarchate, replacing it with the Holy Synod. This gave him the opportunity to establish control of the king over the church, for a deeper rooting of Christianity and the spread of its influence. Any struggle between the two worldviews of the Vedic and Christian movements was suppressed in favor of Christianity, since Christianity, as a powerful tool, best suited the needs of the autocracy.
        One of the oldest Slavic texts - “Patriarsi” (also called “Novgorod Psalter”), reads:
        Mr. holy kob:
        Christians go to the city of Ladoga.
        We pray, we make sacrifices so that we do not enslave the farmers and destroy the city.

        Damned Aldorog - they sowed death, burned our god, killed the townspeople.

        The emergence of Christian squads, with fire and sword, bearing their system of values ​​and religion to the Slavs, to the whole pagan world, took the form of "the adoption of Christianity by Russia." The military confrontation was inextricable with the ideological: Christian priests denied the antiquity of the Slavic races, their historical significance, calling the Slavic-Aryan peoples “barbarians” and “idolaters”. Kob (priest), in the Patriarchs, calls the Christian ideology a false literacy.

        I am sending the speech of Perun to my master, cob-elder
        I am sending my husband, waiting for the coveted term, against false literacy.

        Russia is eternal, it stands on its bones, suffers from the times of Dir and Nabopalasar ... "

        "... At that time, a new state system needed a new soil, which in fact became Christianity. Since religion was and is the most powerful, one of the most massive means of spreading values ​​and ways of influencing the consciousness of the masses, one cannot ignore and underestimate it influence ... "
    2. mongoose
      mongoose April 16 2014 19: 26
      0
      yeah, especially the Bolsheviks "wrote" history for their Jewish needs
    3. Turkir
      Turkir April 16 2014 22: 12
      0
      But no. They just looked badly. wink
  18. andj61
    andj61 April 16 2014 16: 40
    0
    Remember, at least the so-called Kulikovo battle. There are frescoes that have preserved fragments of the Battle of Kulikovo, where the regiments go against each other under the same banners, and the battle was in place of the Moscow Kulishki.

    In 1978, my friends and I walked around Moscow and we went to a small church near the Rossiya hotel. The church was empty, we were freshmen, and not sober yet, and even atheists at that time. It was there that the priest said that the church - I don't remember the exact name - in my opinion, the Church of the Savior on Spilled Blood on Kulishki was built precisely after the Battle of Kulikovo, which was exactly here in Moscow. He said he was a guest. "Russia" is simply on the bones, there were the graves of the dead soldiers. Therefore, no burials have been found on the "tom" Kulikovo field. That's it.
    1. mongoose
      mongoose April 16 2014 19: 28
      0
      yeah, and even in Moscow hens are milked laughing
      ps it was not accepted to leave the dead, they were brought and buried
    2. Turkir
      Turkir April 16 2014 22: 05
      0
      And you are right. To you +
  19. upasika1918
    upasika1918 April 16 2014 16: 41
    +18
    Recently hit the net. We poorly know F, M, Dostoevsky.
  20. SHOCK.
    SHOCK. April 16 2014 16: 51
    +1
    Article plus. In order to constantly push their foreheads between the Eastern and Western Slavs (Germans), the Anglo-Saxons tried their whole history. But if you look closely, we are alike. We are the best warriors, we are the best plowmen, and the story is different, excellent would complement each other.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru April 16 2014 18: 16
      +2
      Quote: Sh.O.K.
      In order to constantly push their foreheads between the eastern and western Slavs (Germans), the Anglo-Saxons tried their whole history.

      In two world wars, the losses of the Slavs + Germans are 20 times higher than the losses of the Anglo-Saxons. Why do you think that in the wars of the 20th century the Slavs and Germans exterminated each other. By the way, in 1948, out of nowhere, a small but proud state appeared in the Middle East.
  21. Free Island
    Free Island April 16 2014 16: 51
    +1
    I wrote an essay .. the author, you yourself are RUSSIAN ??? This is called COMPOSITION, and the ESSAY is with the Geyropeans. This time, secondly - do you think that now, against the backdrop of the rise of Russian patriotism and pride for the Motherland and for the President, the people will rise up against him because you saw him lying in his chair at the Parade? would you go from here with your ESSEEEEEEEEEEEE ...
    1. andj61
      andj61 April 16 2014 17: 02
      0
      If the article contains rough edges, or describes what is true - about the president and the parade - and everyone did not like it then, but now does not correspond to the "needs of the current moment", you should not react so violently and get personal. And our President is also a man, like all of us.
    2. SHOCK.
      SHOCK. April 16 2014 17: 03
      +1
      Quote: Free Island
      do you think that now, against the backdrop of the rise of Russian patriotism and pride in the Motherland and for the President, the people will rebel against him for what you saw as he lay in his chair at the Parade?

      This, as I understand it, was written in 2011. Who was the president then?
    3. Ev58
      April 17 2014 09: 30
      0
      The essay, if you read it carefully, is so clear and transparent that you don't really have to strain the gray matter of the brain. The biggest problems in life, and especially in the Army, are from individuals like you or the so-called. "mongoose", which are easy to provoke, their reactions are inadequate, they do not have endurance and the ability to calmly analyze the situation, they easily start quarrels, fights and riots, and often turn out to be a tool in the wrong hands. In order not to overload your brain with the thought process, I inform you that the essay was primarily about the veterans of the Great Patriotic War, the attitude towards them, the sacred memory of the heroism and courage of those to whom we owe the victory over fascism, about the attitude (which can be documented on videos of 2011) of the head of the country to this memory, that behind any bloodshed are directors and scriptwriters who are least often talked about, that there are extremist forces that are pushing various nations, religions and races in bloody wars, simply exterminating them ... You and some speakers need to be able to read, analyze material, respect other people, work on your reactions and speech. All the best!
  22. gozmosZh
    gozmosZh April 16 2014 16: 55
    +2
    Remember, at least the so-called Kulikovo battle. There are frescoes that have preserved fragments of the Battle of Kulikovo, where the regiments go against each other under the same banners, and the battle was in place of the Moscow Kulishki. That civil war (yes, yes, not with the Tatars, as a distorted history suggests), which claimed tens of thousands of Russian lives, cleared the way for the Romanov dynasty, which methodically destroyed all information about our true history, is it also an accident? Not! There are, obviously, there are forces that the Slavic-Aryan peoples hate, who want to destroy the most ancient races by any means, by any means.


    our history was written by foreigners. everything is redrawn. the topic of "new chronology" is very interesting.
    The official website of the scientific direction NEW CHRONOLOGY ACADEMY OF NEW CHRONOLOGY.
    http://www.chronologia.org/

    "3.1. LIST OF FULL MEMBERS OF THE RUSSIAN ACADEMY OF SCIENCES OF THE XVIII-XIX CENTURIES.

    As a result of the reconstruction of world and Russian history undertaken by us, the generally known fact emerged more and more clearly that with the coming to power in Russia of the new pro-Western dynasty of the Romanovs, the ruling stratum of Russia began to consist largely of FOREIGNERS. Romanov historians have come up with the following "explanation" for this fact. This "explanation" is repeated today by historians in a harmonious chorus. Allegedly, the Romanovs, with the best of intentions, "called upon" enlightened foreigners to Russia, in order with their help to pull the country out of the gloomy swamp of backwardness, inertia and ignorance.

    In fact, everything was different. The dominance of foreigners in Russia, which began under the first Romanovs and almost did not weaken in the first two hundred years of their reign, was nothing more than a direct occupation by Western Europeans of the former metropolis of the Great = "Mongol" Empire. The well-known serfdom was introduced by the first Romanovs and was a direct enslavement of the indigenous population in the lands of the former metropolis conquered by foreigners. Let us now turn to the history of the Russian Academy of Sciences in the first few decades after its creation in 1724 by decree of Peter I [973], book 1, p.V. We are being told that Peter I, "not finding talents in Russia," was forced to call on Western European scientists to finally enlighten Russia and raise a worthy replacement for themselves from local, still poorly educated young people. Among the scientists recruited from Western Europe were really outstanding thinkers, for example, the brilliant mathematician Leonard Euler. However, this is usually somehow bypassed by the fact that ALL members of the Russian Academy of Sciences, from 1724 until 1742, were ALL FOREIGNERS, with the exception of only one Adadurov Vasily Evdokimovich, who was elected to the Academy in 1733 [973], book 1. Thus, FOR THE FIRST TWENTY YEARS, RUSSIAN ACADEMICIANS WERE ALMOST ONE FOREIGNERS. But, it turns out, and after that, the OVERVIEW OF ACADEMICISTS WERE FOREIGNERS UP TO 1841, when the situation changed dramatically ... "
    1. mongoose
      mongoose April 16 2014 19: 30
      0
      how cute, but is it not that Russian starting terminology was created from the 17th to the 19th century? or do you think. that mammoths came from us? ---- to puberty school!
  23. Submarine B-41
    Submarine B-41 April 16 2014 16: 57
    +3
    Surprisingly, it was thanks to the Ukrainian Maidan that the great word again proudly sounded to the whole world RUSSIAN! And finally the call "RUSSIANS UNITE" It is not interpreted as a nationalist slogan, but has become a PATRIOTIC slogan!
  24. gozmosZh
    gozmosZh April 16 2014 17: 00
    +4
    "In order not to be unfounded, we present a complete list of all full members of the Russian Academy of Sciences FOR THE FIRST FIFTY YEARS, from the moment of its creation in 1724 to 1773 [973], book 1. The years of election are indicated. In parentheses, the real foreign names are given without their transposition into Russian. See [973], book 1. This list speaks for itself. 1725:

    1) Herman Jacob, - FIRST academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences,
    2) Martini Christian,
    3) Kohl Peter (Kohl Johann Peter),
    4) Bulfinger Georg Bernhard (Bu "lfinger Georg Bernhard),
    5) Gross Christian Friedrich,
    6) Mayer Friedrich Christoph, 7) Bernoulli Daniel,
    8) Delis Osip Nikolaevich (Delisle Joseph-Nikolas),
    9) Buxbaum Johann Christian,
    10) Goldbach Christian,
    11) Burger Michael
    12) Bernoulli Nicolas,
    13) Duvernoy Nikolay Georg (Du Vernoi or Duvernoy Johann Georg),
    14) Miller Fedor Ivanovich (Mu "ller Gerard Frriedrich),
    15) Bayer Gottlieb or Theophil Siegfried (Bayer Gottlieb or Teophil Siegfried),
    16) Beckenstein Johann Simon,
    17) Weibrecht Josiah (Weibrecht Iosias), 1726:
    18) Leutmann Johann Georg,
    19) Euler Leonhard, 1727:
    20) Delisle de la Croye're Louis,
    21) Kraft Georg Wolfgang,
    22) Gmelin Johann Georg, 1731:
    23) Winsheim Christian Nicolas von,
    24) Juncker Gottlob Friedrich Wilhelm, 1732:
    25) Fischer Johann Eberhard,
    26) Cramer Adolf Bernhard, 1777:
    27) Amman Johann,
    28) Lotter Johann Georg,
    * 29) Adadurov Vasily Evdokimovich, 1735:
    30) Shtelin Yakov Yakovlevich (Sta "hlin Jacob),
    31) Leroy Petr Louis (Le Roy Pierre-Louis), 1736:
    32) Moulac Fre'de'ric,
    33) Wilde Johann Christian,
    34) Libert or Libertus Johann Christophor (Libert or Liebertus Johann Christophor),
    35) Heinsius Gottfried,
    36) Gellert Christian Ehregott,
    37) Merling Georg (Moerling or Mo "rling Georg),
    38) Mygind Franciscus,
    39) Malyard Mikhail (Andreyevich) (?), 1737:
    40) Steller Georg Wilhelm,
    41) Brehm or Brehme Johann Friedrich (Brehm or Brehme Johann Friedrich), 1738:
    42) Taubert Ivan Ivanovich or Johann Caspar (Taubert Johann Caspar),
    43) Strube de Piermont Freidrich Heinrich, 1740:
    44) Crusius Christian Gottfried,
    45) Richmann Georg Wilhelm, 1742: ...
    1. mongoose
      mongoose April 16 2014 19: 30
      0
      child, and where did our scientists come from? they only studied
  25. gozmosZh
    gozmosZh April 16 2014 17: 04
    +3
    ...
    * 46) Teplov Grigory Nikolaevich,
    * 47) Lomonosov Mikhail Vasilievich,
    48) Siegesbeck Johann Georg,
    49) Truscott Ivan Fomich or Johann or John (Truscott Johann), 1745:
    * 50) Krasheninnikov Stepan Petrovich,
    * 51) Trediakovsky Vasily Kirillovich, 1746:
    52) Kaau-Burger Abraham (Abraham) (Kaau-Boerhaave Abraham), 1748:
    * 53) Popov Nikita Ivanovich,
    54) Braun Josef Adam,
    55) Kratzenstein Christian Gottlieb,
    56) Kleinfeld Martin, 1749:
    57) Moderach Karl Friedrich (Moderach Karl Friedrich),
    58) Hebenstreit Johann Christian, 1751:
    59) Grischov Augustin Nathanael,
    * 60) Kotelnikov Semen Kirillovich,
    * 61) Protasov Alexey Protasievich,
    * 62) Shestakovsky Joseph (Ivanovich), 1753:
    * 63) Krasilnikov Andrey Dmitrievich,
    * 64) Rumovsky Stepan Yakovlevich,
    * 65) Mikhail Safronov, 1755:
    66) Kelreiter Joseph Gottlieb or Theophilus (Koelreuter Joseph Gottlieb or Theophilus),
    67) Salchov Ulrich Christophor, 1756:
    68) Zieger Johann Ernst,
    69) Epinus Franz Ulrich Theodor, 1757:
    70) Schmidt Jacob Friedrich (Schmidt Jacob Friedrich), 1759:
    * 71) Kozitsky Grigory Vasilievich,
    * 72) Motonis Nikolai Nikolaevich, 1760:
    73) Fedorowitz Georg Friedrich (Fedorowitz Georg Friedrich), 1761:
    74) Lehmann Johann Gottlob, 1762:
    75) Schlozer August Ludwig (Schlo "zer Auguste Ludwig), 1764:
    76) Paceco Raphael, 1766:
    77) Euler Johann Albrecht, 1767:
    78) Gmelin Samuel Gottlieb,
    79) Wolf Caspar Friedrich (Wolff Caspar Friedrich),
    80) Pallas Peter Simon, 1768:
    81) Lovitz Davyd Egorovich or Georg Moritz (Lowitz Georg Moritz),
    * 82) Lepekhin Ivan Ivanovich,
    83) Gertner Joseph (Ga "rtner Joseph),
    * 84) Amblers Petr Borisovich,
    85) Kraft Login Yuryevich or Wolfgang Ludwig (Kraft Wolfgang Ludwig), 1769:
    86) Lexel Andrei Ivanovich or Andreas Johann (Lexell Andreas Johann),
    87) Guildenstedt or Guldenstedt Johann Anton (Gu "ldensta" dt Johann Anton), 1770:
    88) Laxman Kirill Gustavovich or Eric Gustav (Laxmann Erich Gustav), 1771:
    * 89) Islenev Ivan Ivanovich.
    ...
    1. 225chay
      225chay April 16 2014 18: 49
      +1
      Quote: gozmosZh
      Kaau-Burger Abraham (Abraham) (Kaau-Boerhaave Abraham), 1748:

      Quote: gozmosZh
      Braun Josef Adam,

      Quote: gozmosZh
      Augustine Nathanael (Grischov Augustin Nathanael),

      Quote: gozmosZh
      Kelreiter Joseph Gottlieb or Theophilus (

      Quote: gozmosZh
      Gmelin Samuel Gottlieb,

      Quote: gozmosZh
      Lovitz Davyd Egorovich or Georg Moritz (Lowitz Georg Moritz),

      Quote: gozmosZh
      Gertner Joseph (Ga "rtner Joseph),

      Ekary Babai! Samuils, David, Joseph in the 17th century occupied the Academy and did not give way to the talent of the people!
      however, as now ...
  26. gozmosZh
    gozmosZh April 16 2014 17: 05
    +2
    "Here we will interrupt the enumeration of academicians, referring the reader to the reference edition [973]. THIS STUNNING PICTURE OF THE TOTAL DOMINANCE OF FOREIGNERS IN THE RUSSIAN ACADEMY OF SCIENCES CONTINUES UNTIL 1841. This year becomes clear, the reasons for which are not very foreign. LESS 1841 new academicians were elected in 20. THERE WAS NO FOREIGNER AMONG THEM [973], Book 1. To quantify the emerging picture as a whole, we plotted the graph in Figure 9.49, which shows the percentage of foreigners among academicians Of the Russian Academy from the moment of its foundation in 1724 until 1917. More precisely, along the horizontal axis of time we marked all consecutive years of elections to the Russian Academy. Then, for each such year, the percentage of foreigners who became academicians that year was calculated. the value remains constant until the next election year, when the percentage could change run. The result is a stepped schedule, each horizontal site of which corresponds to the period between adjacent elections. The question of which of the academicians was a foreigner and who was not can be solved very simply on the following formal basis. In the reference book [973], each elected member of the Academy who is a foreigner is indicated by an indication (in brackets) of his original foreign name. See the top of the list above.

    It is quite clearly seen that IN THE OVERALLY MOST CASES, before 1841, the academicians of the Russian Academy, that is, its FULL MEMBERS, were FOREIGNERS. This rather important fact is "explained" to us today like this. They say that for more than a hundred years, foreign members of the Russian Academy have somehow failed to raise themselves a worthy noticeable replacement of Russian scientists. Despite all the efforts. With great difficulty, foreigners were looking for rare talents in the vastness of Russia. But they found "too little." It is clear why. Wild Asian country. Forests, snow, bears. Primitive life. So I had to turn again and again for help to enlightened Western Europe and bring worthy scientists from there. But most likely it was not a lack of talents in Russia. But in a completely different way. At the beginning of the XNUMXth century, a significant part of European Russia was conquered by foreigners. Who were not at all interested in the revival of the Empire. "
  27. igorra
    igorra April 16 2014 17: 09
    +1
    Regarding the Tatar-Mongol conquest. I’m interested in this: how did the conquerors manage to feed themselves in the winter? Someone will say at the expense of the conquered population, but to feed such an army is how much food is needed, I want to remind you it was in the winter, if they cleaned it out completely, how the robbed survived, and even weeded out in the spring. Tell the Mongolian horses got food from under the snow, you saw how much snow is in the steppe and in our forest side. To get grass from under a meter of snow can only probably a musk ox. For comparison, take another more immediate period in our history - the invasion of Napoleon, how much he fought in the winter to remind. I do not think that the ancestors in 1237 were thinner than their ancestors in 1812 and were able to guerrilla at all times. They say that the Mongols were tolerant of the church and did not destroy the priests, and they later awakened in the Russian spirit and desire to fight the conquerors. And now, almost at the pop priests, the authorities kiss, and they do not awaken anything in us, because the church is so comfortable and I don’t think that they want to change something. Our story cannot be written by aliens from Germany. And to believe priests is worthless, they believe in God, in victory, but not in priests. One more fact: since childhood we have represented the Pechenegs as narrow-eyed Turks, as it turned out, they were fair-haired blue-eyed. Look at some Tatars, Bashkir-spilled Russians, although even now many are prejudiced by mixed marriages. So we all dig and dig in search of our roots.
    1. aquatic
      aquatic April 16 2014 17: 28
      0
      This is from the "research" Fomenko quotes right?)
      1. igorra
        igorra April 16 2014 17: 52
        0
        Fomenko did not read, so Klyosov a little, but a little thought and compared.
        1. Luzhichanin
          Luzhichanin April 16 2014 18: 51
          +1
          you don’t pay attention to the aquatic, he okromya Fomenko probably doesn’t know anyone, apparently they don’t write other names in the instructions laughing
          just don’t talk to him, he will convince you that GMO is a gift of God and the inheritance of ancestors wink
    2. mongoose
      mongoose April 16 2014 17: 40
      +3
      Latvians shot my great-grandfather on the orders of a burry commissioner (and my grandfather’s brothers with wives and children), doesn’t it remind me of anything? or do you think that Lenin and the Bolshevik schoble are somehow different from Vlasov? Now minus the Russophobes of the Bolsheviks, just remember that the Gaidars, Chubais, Prokhorovs and other goblins are descendants of the Jewish Bolshevik aristocracy! And thank you and a deep bow to Joseph Vissarionovich Dzhugashvilli for cutting, turned into camp dust and awarded an ice ax with all this Jewish pack (look at the revolutionaries in Kiev! A Jew is a Jew, a Jew)
      Joseph Vissarionovich the greatest anti-communism in the world! Russia has risen from a dream!
      1. DimYang
        DimYang April 17 2014 10: 23
        -1
        Quote: mongoose
        ! And thank you and a deep bow to Joseph Vissarionovich Dzhugashvilli for cutting, turned into camp dust and awarded an ice ax with all this Jewish pack (look at the revolutionaries in Kiev! A Jew is a Jew, a Jew)


        Here I agree with you. But think well, without emotion, how did all this scum creep out into the world to us, or did they appear immediately in 1917? No, the last one who crushed them was Ivan the Terrible, Rurikovich, please note. Well, look for Svyatoslav Khorobry and his grandfather Gostomysl. Yes, and about the pseudo Rurikovich, do not forget about this scum of Vladimir. Compare their affairs, unnecessary questions themselves will disappear.
    3. Turkir
      Turkir April 16 2014 22: 41
      0
      It is easy, for example, to take a city such as Kozelsk. And they took him for a long time, but they could not leave, grain for the horses was in the city. Archaeological excavations have shown that there was a lot of grain in this "evil" city.
      Pechenegs (Badjanaks) are not Polovtsy (Kipchaks), who were fair-haired.
      Temuchin, indeed, and this is confirmed by all historians, was tolerant of all religions, and his crippled soldiers often lived out their lives at the monasteries of the Orthodox Church, from which tax was not taken.
      And the battle cry of Ariev was: Mara!
      And that meant death.
  28. mig31
    mig31 April 16 2014 17: 10
    0
    The misfortune of any sovereign, the poverty of his people, hence the revolution. I believe the people will put all the points over U .......
  29. Leonid Har
    Leonid Har April 16 2014 17: 14
    +1
    I didn't understand the author. Why can't you sit down to watch the parade if you're the president? Interestingly, the author of the article himself watched the parade while standing in front of the TV or sat the whole parade on the sofa, spitting and swearing like the hero of Sergei Svetlakov from "Our Russia"?
    And why did the author not like the equal sign between nationalism and fascism?
    These are two extreme types of extremism that Adolf Hitler used when he was going to war against the USSR. Apparently E.V. Vorobyov sometimes wants to walk the streets, throwing his hands up, in a Nazi salute, killing and spread rot national minorities?
    Better ask yourself EV Vorobyov - who are you?
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt April 16 2014 17: 34
      +4
      In Russia, the president is the commander in chief. Looking at the parade of troops is a complete disregard for your people and contempt for the army.
      1. Ev58
        April 17 2014 10: 02
        +1
        And first of all, to those who gave their lives on the battlefields, without the deed of which many of us simply could not have been born. The memory of the Second World War is sacred to me. (perhaps that’s why he reacted so painfully to this television plot)
      2. Ev58
        April 17 2014 10: 14
        0
        Not forget!

        The explosion hit, the battalion commander froze
        And the body spread in the snow ...
        I lived this moment then
        But I probably can’t forget!

        I cannot and do not want to forget
        What happened many years ago
        How to go to war
        Shelves of young soldiers!

        Shelves for children and mothers,
        They don’t see the end ...
        Not everyone is given then
        Press father to chest.

        To see mother or relatives
        Hometown, sister ...
        I lived this moment then
        And I can’t forget, I can’t!

        I don't want to forget everything
        My memory is a heavy cross!
        Not Stalingrad, not Leningrad,
        Not Minsk, not Bucharest!

        Here, in their native land, they
        Gnawed at every shred
        Behind them was the Motherland,
        Sand creaked in my teeth

        Lead whistled and blood poured
        For my homeland!
        In the foliage of gardens, grass, flowers
        I recognize her.

        I can’t forget the Soldier
        Lying in the snow!
        I lived this moment then
        And I can’t sleep peacefully!

        I will worship Homeland
        To everyone who died for us
        So that the planet never
        The light of the sun did not go out!

        Over the sky blue expanse
        Over the blue of the sea
        For the sun's ray, for children's laughter,
        For the fact that I live!

        © Copyright: Evgeny Vorobyov, 2010
  30. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 16 2014 17: 20
    +2
    We are all branches of one tree, we have one root. It’s just that in Ukraine, in recent years, compradors have been in power, who, with the supply of mattresses, conducted the greatest anti-Russian propaganda, we are now observing the results of this many-year processing.
  31. mabuta
    mabuta April 16 2014 17: 30
    +6
    In the war we are all Russians, regardless of nationality.
  32. parusnik
    parusnik April 16 2014 17: 46
    +4
    There are frescoes that have preserved fragments of the Battle of Kulikovo, where the regiments go against each other under the same banners, and the battle was in place of the Moscow Kulishki... Here is this "proof" .. always brings a smile .. firstly not a fresco, an illustration from the Razdvilovskaya Chronicle, which was created in the 16th century, but the drawing technique and manner of execution also belong to the 16th century ... That is. an author or a group of authors painted what they saw at that time in the 16th century ... but did not redraw from more ancient sources ..
    1. calculator
      calculator April 16 2014 18: 09
      +2
      And they sang hymns to Perun ..... in Zadonshchina it was said ...
  33. Baikal
    Baikal April 16 2014 18: 12
    +2
    Who are we?
    We are those who from ancient times lived on our land. We are those who have repeatedly robbed of both life and history.
    We are those who came to kill and who were buried more than once in advance. We are those whom we have betrayed more than once. And not two.
    But by some miracle, We are still there. And they kept the spirit.
    And we hold in our hands the best and most extensive land.
    We are Russians. And dick who will push us from here.
    1. Ev58
      April 17 2014 10: 20
      0
      Sharp, but fair.
  34. Skif
    Skif April 16 2014 19: 08
    0
    To count the GERMANS among the Western Slavs, and the Slavs in general, is already too much, as well as the fact that the battle on the Kulikovo field was in the Moscow region. For a long time, the Romanovs "paved the way to the throne" for themselves - from 1380 to 1613 ... Somehow it does not converge, but the Mongol-Tatar yoke was still there, and they were able to conquer Russia only because it was fragmented into many small warring principalities. By the way, doesn't it look like anything? Then the Novgorodian was happy to rob and kill a Muscovite, and vice versa, now the same story with Ukraine. Our strength lies in unity, and one by one it will crush NATO and the United States, like the Mongol-Tatars once did ...
  35. delfinN
    delfinN April 16 2014 19: 20
    0
    Now she knows who. Yes, everything about everyone.
  36. Yurrra
    Yurrra April 16 2014 20: 36
    +2
    that was fragmented into many small warring principalities.
    How is it known?
    The capital is in St. Petersburg, and Napoleon takes Moscow - was it wrong ?, a new kind of war?
    The wall of China with loopholes in their direction and towers in the Russian style - who built it?
  37. Turkir
    Turkir April 16 2014 21: 12
    -1
    Let Ukrainians, Belarusians, Germans, Russians not think that they are somehow better than each other. The blood of the most ancient genera flows in their veins; they are actually blood brothers.

    Why on earth is a German my brother by blood? After a liter of vodka? I’m not going to drink with him.
    What kind of hangover is it, does the Aryan blood flow in the Germans? Just because the author so wants?
    How much should you not respect yourself, your people, in order to write such meannesses? Present to the Germans. All their false history is based on Slavic artifacts.
    Quote from the Old Norse geographical composition "Description of the Earth" XIV century:
    "At the beginning of all reliable stories in the northern language it is said that the north was inhabited by the Turks and people from Asia. Therefore, we can say with confidence that the language that we call northern came to the north with them, and this language spread throughout Saxland, Danmork and Svitiod. , Norway and parts of England. " Original "ER TURKIR OK ASIA MENNE".
    And the self-name "DEUTCH" comes from the same DATCHAN.
    It was the Germans who drove out the Slavic-Aryan tribes from the borders of today's Denmark to the Baltic states.
    They shouted "drang nach osten" all the time and yelling today. These are German footmen from Latvia, Estonia, shouting today in PACE that the Russian will feed, put to sleep and kill at night!
    And are they my brothers?
    To write such a vile thing is unworthy of this site, unworthy of this time.
    The author is a stupid historian like his Fuhrer, and he is not my brother either.
    1. Horn
      Horn April 17 2014 07: 54
      0
      Quote: Turkir
      Let Ukrainians, Belarusians, Germans, Russians not think that they are somehow better than each other. The blood of the most ancient genera flows in their veins; they are actually blood brothers.

      Why on earth is a German my brother by blood? After a liter of vodka? I’m not going to drink with him.
      What kind of hangover is it, does the Aryan blood flow in the Germans? Just because the author so wants?
      How much should you not respect yourself, your people, in order to write such meannesses? Present to the Germans. All their false history is based on Slavic artifacts.
      Quote from the Old Norse geographical composition "Description of the Earth" XIV century:
      "At the beginning of all reliable stories in the northern language it is said that the north was inhabited by the Turks and people from Asia. Therefore, we can say with confidence that the language that we call northern came to the north with them, and this language spread throughout Saxland, Danmork and Svitiod. , Norway and parts of England. " Original "ER TURKIR OK ASIA MENNE".
      And the self-name "DEUTCH" comes from the same DATCHAN.
      It was the Germans who drove out the Slavic-Aryan tribes from the borders of today's Denmark to the Baltic states.
      They shouted "drang nach osten" all the time and yelling today. These are German footmen from Latvia, Estonia, shouting today in PACE that the Russian will feed, put to sleep and kill at night!
      And are they my brothers?
      To write such a vile thing is unworthy of this site, unworthy of this time.
      The author is a stupid historian like his Fuhrer, and he is not my brother either.

      - More recently, Deutsch was called by the Indo-European word teutā (Teutons), which means “people”, the Germanic word “tech” is known. And the Danes are GIVEN. Germanic only recently, as well as svei with norgs. The basis of their languages ​​is Slavic.
      1. Turkir
        Turkir April 17 2014 09: 07
        0
        The basis (structure) of the German language is Turkic. Linguists know this.
        15% of haplogroup R1a1 due to Slavic tribes.
    2. Turkir
      Turkir April 17 2014 09: 02
      0
      Oh how! This is how many nemchury born of Russian mothers and fathers?
      1. DimYang
        DimYang April 17 2014 10: 41
        -1
        Quote: Turkir
        Oh how! This is how many nemchury born of Russian mothers and fathers?


        As for the last war, as always, informational weapons were used against us. When our people are turned against us. It is enough to give them an ideology, which, directly or indirectly, is how for what period it is designed, directed against the Slavs. Take the same Poles, kaolicism as they distorted.
    3. DimYang
      DimYang April 17 2014 10: 30
      0
      Well, here you are a little wrong (Turkir). East Germans are mostly Germanized Slavs. There was such a Venedian Rus that died under pressure from Germanic tribes. By the way, the Vatican pushed them to the Slavs. Even Berlin is a Slavic city. This is no longer in doubt. There they dig a lot of Slavic graves, they even unearthed one boat, but on requests to the Academy of Sciences of the Russian Federation that they say we unearthed your Slavic artifacts, it’s silent from the last. the truth is that academic science, especially historical, and we too have been captured (financially) guess who.
    4. Ev58
      April 17 2014 10: 33
      0
      There is no doubt that any person, including regardless of race, gender, religion, geographical place of residence and / or birth, it has the same structure: blood, kidneys, bones, tendons, lungs, etc., but not with you, Turkir. Your building is special. The basis of extremism, nationalism, fascism is the idea of ​​the superiority and exclusivity of one nation in relation to all other races inhabiting the Earth. This is exactly what you preach hysterically and an audience incapable of rational thinking and analysis of information comes across these extremist exclamations. Not hooked ... Go on, for in a different way you probably cannot.
  38. Nikoha.2010
    Nikoha.2010 April 16 2014 21: 57
    +1
    Who are we? And really, who are we? We sit on the couch, drink beer and talk about politics in Ukraine about lawlessness and PZRK, about the flight path of the rocket, and anything else !!! Specialists are bad, you’re catching horror from scratch! They themselves are once taken with zapadentsy, or other real separatists! Do not dishonor the VO site with what you yourself do not know!
    1. Ev58
      April 17 2014 10: 41
      0
      If everyone who feeds, dresses, designs and manufactures weapons and military equipment felt like you are describing - shamefully, the Army would be barefoot, hungry and fought with wooden clubs (at best).
  39. Turkir
    Turkir April 17 2014 10: 39
    +1
    More about the Aryans.
    Journalists describing Arkaim miss an important feature of the knowledge of the ancient Aryans.
    Many blacksmith forges were found in Arkaim, and no remnants of FUR for these forges were found. But to raise the temperature and smelting iron and steel, oxygen is needed. Archaeologists have noticed that near each blacksmith's mountain dry wells were dug. Dry because they never had water. The meaning of the wells was incomprehensible.
    The answer came by chance. Rupture of the ground between a dry well and a mountain An inclined pipe connecting them was discovered. The difference in air pressure also made it possible to blow. Furs were not needed.
    Brilliant.
    1. DimYang
      DimYang April 17 2014 10: 46
      -1
      Quote: Turkir
      More about the Aryans.
      Journalists describing Arkaim miss an important feature of the knowledge of the ancient Aryans.
      Many blacksmith forges were found in Arkaim, and no remnants of FUR for these forges were found. But to raise the temperature and smelting iron and steel, oxygen is needed. Archaeologists have noticed that near each blacksmith's mountain dry wells were dug. Dry because they never had water.
      The answer came by chance. Rupture of the ground between a dry well and a mountain An inclined pipe connecting them was discovered. The difference in air pressure also made it possible to blow. Furs were not needed.
      Brilliant.


      Here I agree with you. Siberian Russia before Yermak and earlier, mountainaaaazdo used to be, and again Academic science (let's call it Jewish) stubbornly does not see it.
      1. Ev58
        April 17 2014 11: 47
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        Jews will never help the so-called. "goyu" - to a person of any other race. Here are the facts:
        Jewish theologians, for example, Maimonides: "If a heretic falls into a ditch, you do not need to free him from there, and if there is a ladder in the ditch, you must pull it out, saying:" I am doing this so that my cattle will not get there "" (Aboda Zara, folio) [Brenier F. "Jews and Talmud", 1928, 112 p., p. 91].
        "The commandment" Thou shalt not kill "means that it is impossible to kill the son of Israel, and the goy and the heretic are not the sons of Israel" (Jad chag., Hilch Rozeach et hilch Melachim) [Brene F. "Jews and Talmud", 1928, 112 p. , c. 90].
        Developing this idea, he wrote: "If you pull the goy out of the pit. Into which he fell, then by this you will support the person in idolatry" (Aboda Zara, folio 20a) [Brenier F. "Jews and Talmud", 1928, 112 p. , from. 90].
        In the Talmud there are also such thoughts: "He who sheds the blood of the goyim. Makes a sacrifice to God" (Jakut Simeoni. Ad Pentat., Folio 245, col. 3; Midderach Bamidehar rabba, p. 21) [Brenier F. "Jews and Talmud", 1928 , 112 p., P. 911]
        "Whoever wanted to kill an animal and accidentally kill a person, or whoever wants to kill a goy and kill a Jew by mistake, is innocent and does not deserve punishment" (Traite Sanhedrin, folio 78 b) [Bregnier F. "Jews and Talmud", 1928, 112 p. ., from. 91].
        There is a statement that the commandment of Moses "do not covet your neighbor's wife" does not apply to the relationship between a Jew, a man and a woman-goyka. Maimonides said: "It is permissible to deceive a woman who is not a Jewess" (Jad chag., Hilch Melachim) [Brenier F. "Jews and Talmud", 1928, 112 p., P. 93].
        And Abravanel said: "To hate, despise and destroy everyone who does not belong to the synagogue or have fallen away from it" (Jad chag., Kilch Aboda Zara) [Brenier F. "Jews and Talmud", 1928, 112 p., P. 90].
  40. gorgo
    gorgo April 17 2014 11: 39
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    All these are beautiful words. What does "old galoshes" have to do with it? Yes, there was a Proto-Indo-European people. Yes, all European languages ​​have one common root. So what? So you can get to the Tower of Babel, then in general everyone spoke the same language. The history of the Russian people begins, in fact, with the adoption of Christianity. Russians are Christian civilization. Before that, there were only scattered Slavic tribes who paid tribute to whom. There are no Russians without Christianity. The mission of Russia is an Orthodox kingdom that keeps the "secret of lawlessness" in the world. Dostoevsky said correctly: "Without God, a Russian person turns into a beast." Until we remember this, there will be no blessing from Russia.
    1. Ev58
      April 17 2014 11: 54
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      Russian - living in Russia (Russia - in modern transcription), belonging to the oldest family of Rus.
      If you follow your view, then Russians (and not only) should be called "Christian people". By the way, everything is not so simple here: the word people means Our Family.
      1. gorgo
        gorgo April 17 2014 12: 08
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        So what? Well, our kind. Sense of this etymology? The question of the origin of the word Rus and Russian is very complicated. The answer to it is lost for centuries. I would recommend that the author read less quasi-historical literature about the Aryan-Rus, the true Orthodoxy of Perun-Veles and the Jewish enslavement of the Aryan-Rus with the help of Christianity. This is all - an extremely dangerous enemy move, launched, incidentally, by the Jews. Because there is no people in the world who hate Christianity and there are more Christians than them. They know that the strength of Russia is in the Orthodox spirit (it always has been, remember at least Sergius of Radonezh and his blessing to Demetrius Donskoy). It is beneficial for them to etch Orthodoxy and replace it with wild paganism, about which, by the way, there is really no knowledge left.
        Our trouble is that we often do not know how to think with our heads and easily believe all sorts of fables. And sometimes you don't need to think. You just have to hold fast to your faith, your spirit, not paying attention to whether it corresponds to new trends and knowledge or not. It is precisely due to this conservatism, even ossification, that Russia survived for a thousand years. And as soon as they started to "think" and ask questions, they got the 17th year and all the subsequent troubles up to the current state of affairs.
        1. Ev58
          April 17 2014 12: 52
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          Especially for you I repeat my comment to another author:
          In my essay "Barbarians", written on August 20.08.2011, XNUMX, I noted:
          "At first glance, it may seem that the primary source of Christianity - Judaism should have the same basis, but, oddly enough, this is not so. For the Jews - the Old Testament, in a certain form transformed into the Torah, which is essentially the Bible of the Jews, and for Christians - the New Testament.
          In the first case, we see the religion of the greedy conqueror:

          10. When you approach the city to conquer it, then offer him peace
          11. And it will be, if he answers you with peace and opens you, then let all the people who are in him pay you tribute and serve you.
          12. If he does not surrender to you and wage war with you, then besiege him.
          13. And when God, your Almighty, gives it into your hands, then kill all men with his sword tip.
          14. Only women, and children, and livestock, and everything that will be in the city, take all its prey, take it for yourself, and use the prey of your enemies, whom God, your Almighty, has given you.
          15. So do with all the cities, very distant from you, which are not from the cities of these peoples.
          16. In the cities of these peoples, which God, your Almighty, gives you as an inheritance, do not leave a soul alive.
          17. But destroy them: the Hittites, and the Emorians, the Canaanites, and the prize winners, the Hebrews, and the Jebusites, as God Almighty commanded you.
          18. So that they would not teach you to do like all their abominations that they did for their Gods, and you would not sin before God, your Almighty.

          The Pentateuch and the Haftaroth. The book "Dvarim", Shoftim XX, 10-18, 1210-1211s.

          In the second case, the religion of slaves, calling for humility and humility.
          No wonder Peter I at one time abolished the Patriarchate, replacing it with the Holy Synod. This gave him the opportunity to establish control of the king over the church, for a deeper rooting of Christianity and the spread of its influence. Any struggle between the two worldviews of the Vedic and Christian movements was suppressed in favor of Christianity, since Christianity, as a powerful tool, best suited the needs of the autocracy.
          One of the oldest Slavic texts - “Patriarsi” (also called “Novgorod Psalter”), reads:
          Mr. holy kob:
          Christians go to the city of Ladoga.
          We pray, we make sacrifices so that we do not enslave the farmers and destroy the city.

          Damned Aldorog - they sowed death, burned our god, killed the townspeople.

          The emergence of Christian squads, with fire and sword, bearing their system of values ​​and religion to the Slavs, to the whole pagan world, took the form of "the adoption of Christianity by Russia." The military confrontation was inextricable with the ideological: Christian priests denied the antiquity of the Slavic races, their historical significance, calling the Slavic-Aryan peoples “barbarians” and “idolaters”. Kob (priest), in the Patriarchs, calls the Christian ideology a false literacy.

          I am sending the speech of Perun to my master, cob-elder
          I am sending my husband, waiting for the coveted term, against false literacy.

          Russia is eternal, it stands on its bones, suffers from the times of Dir and Nabopalasar ... "

          "... At that time, a new state system needed a new soil, which in fact became Christianity. Since religion was and is the most powerful, one of the most massive means of spreading values ​​and ways of influencing the consciousness of the masses, one cannot ignore and underestimate it influence ... "
        2. Ev58
          April 17 2014 12: 58
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          Jewish hatred of Christianity ?! Christianity is the fruit of the quirky mind of the Jews. How can you hate your own weapon-ideology-specially created religion? You confuse the hatred of the Russians as a race and launder the Jews from participating in the creation of the most powerful tool-weapon-ideology.
        3. Turkir
          Turkir April 17 2014 13: 52
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          And in my opinion you already answered: we will spit on our ancestors. This is your answer.
          I’m not going to spit on my ancestors and I won’t give others.
          All the peoples of Europe have a Christian history, but the Slavs do not have it precisely because of the point of view that you slammed at Hitler (he called it as we are called today slaves) and all the Norman historians. I am familiar with Norman theory; it has long been an instrument of the West.
          Orthodoxy, so that you know, differs from Catholicism in that much, thanks to HIS PEOPLE, passed into it from ancient beliefs. Including the concept of the Trinity. I am sure that even if you read The Lay of Igor's Campaign, you will not understand anything in it. This is your path and there is nothing you can do about it.
          And as soon as they started to "think" and ask questions - How interesting, and how are we then different from cattle?
          And I'm Russ and no one will turn me off this path.
          Schiller was right: Russians, only Russians can defeat.
          1. Ev58
            April 17 2014 14: 49
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            One of the most expressive and brief definitions, a statement of the actual situation in the history of Russia, was given by F.I. Tyutchev:

            Long on European soil,
            Where lies are so overgrown,
            A long time Pharisee science
            The double truth has been created;
            For them - the law and equal rights,
            For us - violence and deceit,
            And secured the old age
            They are like the legacy of the Slavs.
          2. Ev58
            April 17 2014 15: 04
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            The historian of the XNUMXth century, Doctor of Philosophy and Master of Fine Sciences, Egor Ivanovich Klassen, noted that “Slavs Russ as a people, formerly Romans and Greeks educated, left in themselves in all parts of the old world many monuments testifying to their stay there and to the ancient writing, arts and enlightenment . Monuments will forever be indisputable evidence ... ”

            Catherine II in her “Notes on Russian History” wrote: “... the Slavs of ancient Nestor had a written language, but they were lost and have not yet been found and therefore have not reached us. The Slavs had a letter long before Christmas. ”

            Derzhavin noted: “Miraculously, the surviving pages reveal to us a Slavic civilization no less ancient and no less rich than the civilization of any other people.”

            V. Torop in the book “The Return of the Russian Runic” noted: “... it is difficult to believe that for several centuries of studying the written heritage of our ancestors something substantial could have slipped from the attention of scientists ... Yes, and would you like to notice? After all, the presence of the same runic contradicts the position of inert official science, proving that the Slavs were a young tribe before baptism, and not a people with an ancient culture ... ”

            I never, to anyone prove the correctness of my point of view. My essays, answers, and comments are always well-reasoned, but not aimed at triumphing and the greatness of one’s own point of view, but in order for a person to at least think, ask himself questions, look for answers to them and study analysis in a chaotic and contradictory information space.

            This comment on your, Turkir, hysterical and unreasonable cries is the last. I don’t even blacklist people like you, reacting to them no more than a soldier on a louse, who, with her bites, is unable to influence the outcome of the battle, fighting skills and military spirit.

            The sons of Israel will shake your hand.
            All the best!
  41. Yurrra
    Yurrra April 17 2014 18: 27
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    Here it was: The words that are written in the Gospel of Matthew about who Jesus Christ came to: "... I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel ..." ("New Testament", Gospel of Matthew 15:24 http: // www. rusbible.ru/sinodal/mf.html#15 This phrase speaks for itself - everything that was actually carried by the one who is called Jesus Christ refers only to the Jews!

    And even only on this fact it follows that if a religion with his name arose, then it should be ONLY FOR THE JEWS! But in a "strange way" this religion was imposed by the Jews by the Goyim, that is, NOT by the Jews! And the Jews themselves continued, as if nothing had happened, to profess Judaism! Judaism, against which precisely the one who was called Jesus Christ fought precisely (by the way, Christ in the Greek means Messiah and is not a name or surname).
    Original Russian faith.
    Further: But Jesus spoke of GOD OF THE JEWS:

    43. Jesus said to them: if God were your Father, you would love Me, because I came from God and came; for I have not come of Myself, but He sent Me. Why do not you understand My speech? Because you cannot hear My words.
    44. Your father is DIAVOL; and you want to fulfill the lusts of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and did not stand in the truth, for there is no truth in him; when he speaks a lie, he speaks his own, for he is a liar and the father of lies. And as I say the truth, do not believe Me.
    (The New Testament, Gospel of John. Chapter 8, Verses 43-44).
    Fully (http://poiskpravdy.com/isus/)
    1. Ev58
      April 18 2014 09: 00
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      So is it necessary to unreasonably accept everything that religious teachings impose? Do you know how many versions of the Bible and creation dates exist? The Bible was corrected many times, and a person who considers a crooked mirror to be true, without even questioning the reflection in it, can see not what it really is.
      King Solomon at some point in his life renounced his Lord and took other gods, in particular, Astarte, Chamos, and Moloch, in whose honor he built temples (3 Kings 11: 4-7). [Bible (books of the scriptures of the Old and New Testaments). M., Bible Societies, 1995, 1376 p., P. 331-332].
      A similar sin was committed by the prophet Aaron - the brother of Moses himself, who made with his own hands the golden ornament of the people of the Israelite golden calf, raised an altar before him and declared him Lord (Exodus 32: 1-6)
      From the same Bible: Jephthah, one of the heroes of Israel, in the name of fulfilling his vow given to God, sacrificed his own daughter to Him (Judges, 11: 31-40) [Bible (books of the scriptures of the Old and New Testaments). M., Bible Societies, 1995, 1376 p., P. 243].
      One of the greatest mortal sins, according to the Bible, is adultery. However, a number of Jewish prophets, patriarchs and kings have committed this sin. So, one of Jacob's sons Reuben cohabited with his father's wife (Genesis 35:22) [Bible (books of the Holy Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments). M., Bible Societies, 1995, 1376 p., P. 38]. Judas - the direct ancestor of David and Jesus Christ committed fornication with his daughter-in-law Tamar, who became pregnant from him ["Gospel of John", Minsk, 1992, 90 p., P. 411].
      I can cite as an example quotations if they reflect my vision of the subject of discussion, but I will never say: "I rely on the Bible, which says that ..." The same applies to any religious movement with which to one degree or another I'm familiar. I am also far from the idea of ​​proving to someone my innocence, because I myself, like any person, can be wrong. I just would like a person to at least think that the texts, whatever they may be, are not written by God, and do not represent the truth.