Non-combat losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

14 April. Ukraine. Sumy region. Village Dolgopolovka. In carrying out the transfer of military equipment into the reservoir, the TZM 9Т452 (transport and loading machine, included in the complex of the reactive salvo-fire system) landed. As a result of the incident, two servicemen were killed, another person (the system operator) received serious injuries.

Local law enforcement agencies, commenting on what happened for publication UNN, they say that the car landed in the pond after moving off the bridge. According to the preliminary version, the serviceman who drove the vehicle lost control of the vehicle.

The TZM consisting of the chassis and the loading and unloading module can transport up to 16 charges. The lifting capacity of its crane is up to 300 kg. Maximum travel speed - 65 km / h. Maximum weight with RS is 20 tons. Crew - 3 person.

Comments

[Monk]

And laughing is a sin.

[Baloo]

Poorly studied materiel. They ate fat a lot and jumped. Here is the result.

[Max otto]

And they didn’t start fighting yet (God forbid, of course). Imagine what will happen in the conduct of hostilities, they will kill themselves.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Don’t laugh, men, maybe they do it with a specialist .. They don’t want to obey the junta .. (Although the army is ruined, but if they have to recover quickly ..) We are, after all, a single people and the Army too!

[matross]

Quote: MIKHAN

Do not laugh men, maybe they do it with a specialist .. They don’t want to obey the junta ..

They commit suicide ?! You do not confuse them with samurai!

[Drshan]

Sorry, two corpses for fun? Not funny, sad ...

[Belarus]

Wow specifically if, according to the off-version of eb.nu.sya from the bridge.
Although maybe this TZM 9T452 polite person adjusted the steering (unscrewed the bolt and all)

[Stalker]

Ukrainian Air Force ...

[oldstaryi]

And they didn’t start fighting yet (God forbid, of course). Imagine what will happen in the conduct of hostilities, they will kill themselves.

In Soviet times, non-combat losses reached 3% of the number per year! This is not for you!

[woron333444]

this is during the teachings, and God forbid, they torn everyone

[zeleznijdorojnik]

In vain, minuscule, it happened, only those losses, of course not irrevocable, that got cold and vilifying soldiers in the medical unit. It is clear that the percentage constantly fluctuated, it was especially high in studies, and in big cities, where the incidence of the same flu in the season could mow 5-7% of hp.

[Egevich]

do not confuse warm with soft - 3% are theoretical maximum allowable losses according to the standards of exercises. there you are not here.

[kenig1]

Where was such nonsense googled or dreamed? In the USSR Armed Forces there were 2,5 million people, 3% is 75 thousand people.

[Belarus]

It would be great if by "mistake" they fired a volley at Kiev.

[domokl]

Quote: Balu

Poorly studied materiel.

But how could they study it well ... If the soldiers did not conduct combat training, and most of the partisans called up by the RVC are really partisans, not soldiers

[voldmis]

Recently, our army was the same ... Thanks to the Supreme for progress and hope! In 2020, let's look at the updated aircraft. Although shifts are already noticeable.

[hrych]

Eat a lot of fat

If fat were okay, they fed the expired NATO dry packs (in the TV program it was that their packs, like canned canines, and sometimes even better than dog shit in taste), weren’t too strong to turn the steering wheel.

[Little Muck]

Such a week has begun. And you?
Better condolences to relatives would be expressed. Be that as it may, people were in the service and were not war criminals.
I do not justify anyone, but these are people. Our, albeit a little sick, but our guys.
Where is the honor of the officer fathers-commanders?
You can minus. It's disgusting.
Ask about making your comments, be human.
Found on what + to earn.
People do not put advantages, just think.

[Little Muck]

If possible, please reset the rating for this comment. Recently on the site and do not know how to do it. Help.

[matross]

Quote: Little Muck

Ask about making your comments, be human.
Found on what + to earn.

Well, do not be so killed, and even more so blame everyone indiscriminately in the desire to earn a plus sign. There are a lot of people who care.

Quote: Little Muck

albeit a little sick, but our guys.

And why are they sick? And what, in your opinion, are the crew members of the Urkay TZM sick?

[Little Muck]

Quote: matRoss

And what, in your opinion, are the crew members of the Urkay TZM sick?

It was not about physiology. At least the lack of proper qualifications (as I write smart people, learn materiel). You can’t take it. After all, would not be shot?
and even more so blaming everyone indiscriminately
And no one blamed everyone who accepted he acted like a person. I am not a judge.

[Drshan]

Colonel, don’t be flattered: "Not long ago on the site ..."
He left his comment on this topic above - he himself hurt the boys.

[sniper]

Quote: Little Muck

If possible, please reset the rating for this comment

Vitaliy, do not worry ... Normal comment, well-deserved pluses ... Consider that this is not a plus for you, but an expression of condolences to the families of the victims. Well, something like this, in my opinion ...

[sv68]

do not change everything correctly wrote. not the case so that you can gloat

[vinc]

I wonder where it is they so white and fluffy went to charge multiple launch rocket systems.

[matross]

The Ukrainian army is not allied to us now. And even neutral. Therefore, I do not see a reason to shed tears about the heroically drowned fighters. To laugh, however, too.

[Kazanec]

Where, judging by the map, it’s clear, the main thing - where did you go to charge?

[Zaslavsky-S]

And the worst thing is that the Slavs are on both sides!

[sso-xnumx]

You're right! And who didn’t admit that the calculation of this vehicle was killed and injured while fulfilling the order of the criminals, equated himself with the Ukrainian government ...

[Alekseev]

Quote: Little Muck

Be that as it may, people were in the service and were not war criminals.

That's right!
So far, the Ukrainian army in general, with rather rare exceptions, behaves worthy of the difficult situation in which it finds itself.
There is no shooting, the transition to the side of the Russian Federation is massive, there is no enthusiasm or "military romanticism".
And rightly so!

[Stalker]

Perhaps here Vasya’s desire has strengthened ...

[rolik]

Quote: Balu

They ate fat a lot and jumped. Here is the result

Addition to the posted photo))))))))

[vasek-3180]

Dumb demiator! My name is Vasily.

[sso-xnumx]

I agree! And they can’t pick up words without a mat, unfortunately ...

[vasek-3180]

Put your cons under your pillow, gentlemen, idiots!

[sso-xnumx]

most likely they didn’t serve as it should be, that's it .... People feel sorry ...

[Putnik960]

More jumped from hunger !!

[platitsyn70]

it’s bad to be wooden to the waist, they wanted to scare hail whom Russians or civilians. The innocent guys who have parents were killed. beloved, wives, children. What can be said about those who give such orders.

[120352]

Monk
Alas, there is nothing to laugh! Non-combat losses are too small. So. you look, and they will have something from the army before the start of hostilities.

[Sid.74]

It is a pity, again in vain unreasonable victims, out of the blue not in a combat situation, from dishonesty and inexperience!

[Lord of the Sith]

My heart bleeds for our country and our Army.

In general, by loss:
T-64B 5 units.
Tor-M1 1 unit.
Su-24M 1 unit.
TZM 9T452 1 unit.





And it is still not known how many did not start or became during the march. And they still didn’t start shooting, I really hope that nothing will explode.

[PLO]

I didn’t think that Ukraine had S-300V left)

[Lord of the Sith]

I’m sorry, not Tor-M1, but the self-propelled guns Msta-S exploded.

[Drshan]

"And it's boring and sad and there is no one to fill the face ..."

[Igor39]

http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/497/smhy684.jpg

[MolGro]

Well, they still catch tanks in the field)))
Cool unarmed people chasing a tank))

[Sid.74]

Quote: MolGro

Well, they still catch tanks in the field)))
Cool unarmed people chasing a tank))

Yes well done)))

[STALGRAD76]

ohh angry crowd is a terrible thing, I spent three hours in 1999 in a closed sou (diesel fuel is over) when I drove along a new asphalt road to some summer cottages

[STALGRAD76]

the last video has been hanging on YouTube for a long time, it’s not connected with current events

[max73]

people died, maybe enough to throw hats? I look at the controversy - and it scares me ... where does this hatred come from? the very same Ukrainians, because of the specifics of the national, do not crave war at all ... sorry, but you can’t laugh at the people and, moreover, shamefully be like jackals ....

[I think so]

Strange you reason ... "The same Ukrainians, by virtue of their national specifics, do not crave war at all."
Excuse me, WHERE ARE THEY GOING? To ride? To the walk? Fight THEY WENT! FULFILLED CRIMINAL ORDER! And that means they themselves became CRIMINALS! I have no doubt that THEY ARE STEEL TO SHOOT! And here you smear snot for them!

[max73]

Well, yes, how .... it’s easier to declare all criminals and enemies ... what kind of snot it is ... unpretentious, but, ostensibly, correctly ... you won’t go far with such an attitude towards people

[Anisim1977]

If maydanutye hail gathered to shoot at his people ......
Then I can’t imagine that I can keep SU -34 from the Voronezh base of Baltimore. I think they’ll fly for 15 minutes like that.
And near Rostov, if I do not confuse, is the largest helicopter base in Russia.
In vain they are so ........

[Drshan]

Appreciated at +, but I don’t feel like a war.

[Apollo]

quote is 14 April. Ukraine. Sumy region. The village of Dolgopolovka. In the implementation of the transfer of military equipment to the reservoir TZM 9Т452 (transport-loading machine, part of the complex of multiple launch rocket systems).

What is a car like?

[Drshan]

Has anyone served in these systems? I am a doctor, I served at 8K14, but then here, step on the TRAINING hose with your foot (I got it from the battalion commander) ... And this boss? the calculation on the "pencil" walks with his feet ... It seems that there should be a special stool? There were special ladders on our complex. I beg your pardon, I have never seen this complex, maybe I am mistaken.

[andrei332809]

are they kidding me?

[SS68SS]

This is being bullied. It's a shame and bitter for the guys. It’s not their fault that their commander in chief is ...

[andrei332809]

Quote: SS68SS

This is being bullied.

so I'm not talking about boys. I'm talking about the junta

[I think so]

It's a shame and bitter for the guys

Yes, fullness you feel sorry for POTENTIAL ENEMIES. Then they went to fight! AND SHOOT! Or have you already forgotten who shot down the planes over Georgia? Or Sashko beaty did not fight in Russia against Russian soldiers ... And these will shoot and these will shoot down ... DO NOT HESITATE ... and your snot about the "guys" would hold back ...

[Smiles to you]

Such a case, it can be in any army .. The guys feel sorry for the equipment ... I don’t see anything funny in the deaths of the guys ..

[domokl]

Quote: Smiles at you

Such a case can be in any army

That's for sure ... A long time ago a BMD with a crew drowned in my exercises in the Karakum desert ... In the Karakum canal ... So the division commander almost nailed me, as I will report to Moscow that people drowned in my desert. ..
The soldier is really sorry .. They are not to blame, the commanders and politicians are to blame ...

[Horly]

This is no longer the case - it is already a trend! But the guys are really sorry!

[Smiles to you]

You. Little. wrong! And that's why. If you make a selection of non-combat losses in the RF Ministry of Defense, then the numbers will be ... Starting from the deaths of conscripts, due to the negligence of the commanders. I will not give all the examples. But how many guys we have, died from elemental pneumonia and hypothermia, etc ... Also, not military losses ...

[andrei332809]

Quote: Smiles at you

Such a case may be in any army.

[-Patriot-]

Mobilization in full swing and with the result, which is worthy of the state of the Ukrainian army.

[svetlomor]

These .... Donbass and Syria are not confused if such equipment was removed ?!

[Predator]

I wanted to play in Abkhazia! Finish .And guys or uncles feel sorry

[andrei332809]

Quote: Predator

.A guys or uncles feel sorry

and now he sat and sat, thought and thought ... they knew WHERE and for WHEREOF they went ... it seems like an order is not being discussed, but WHERE IS TOP? there is none! Who gives orders?

[svd-xnumx]

It may well turn out that there was no order and there was no - when they take the fools by the balls, they will say show the order that I signed, but there is nothing to show. Whoever wrote what was written on Facebook and what they said on the zomboyaschik, I will not say aisles. Bylozh with "partisans", called on 10 days and they don't let go home - they say the order, but it is impossible to show the order because they do not have access.

[Duelist]

Hey! Slavs! Who are you going to fight with? - with the people or with the oligarchs? With your mothers and sisters, brothers and fathers? Or with the traitors who sent you to fratricide?

[Predator]

Don’t let them go fast! DBR 25 Fire support is needed!

[oldstaryi]

Don’t let them go fast! DBR 25 Fire support is needed!

Troops are being brought into the Donetsk region, including the City ...

[neri73-r]

Sorry for the guys, they have something to do with it, conscripts apparently! Now let Bandera tell their mothers what idols their sons died!

[Drshan]

Dreaming, apologize ... "The intrigues of Russia !!!"

[I think so]

Don't bring snot here! These are ENEMIES! And we went to WAR with YOU! Forgot who shot down Russian planes in Georgia? Forgot who fought in Chechnya together with bandits against Russian soldiers? And these will shoot down and these will fight! And thank God that YOUR ENEMIES DIED before reaching YOU! Their snot would not be transported here to the "innocent victims." You are likening to the Soviet people on the eve of the Second World War - then they also believed that "the German proletariat will not fight against the USSR" ... So did those medical officers who went to fight against YOU and came to their senses ...

[Luga]

The Russian terrorists are to blame for everything, who came up with all sorts of tricky equipment, knowing at the same time that the Ukrainians would want to steer it.

[nika407]

They saved on fuel, and probably didn’t allocate it at all for the exercises. Are the soldiers conscripts?

[Kornilovets]

And there were no operations as such ...

And how the mess begins, so to speak "friendly" fire ...

Desertion....

And this, like him, from "fresh" rations of dysentery then finally ... to Donetsk, a victorious army, when will it crawl?

[Same lech]

It is unclear .... where they drove a similar technique to the place of the intended use .... really, following the example of a chewing ties, they decided to shelter sleeping citizens with HUNDREDS.

[nicollider]

Unfortunately, everything is clear. If they didn’t want to use, they wouldn’t drive. Plus, the video skipped today about the Ukrainian column. army. There were hailstones in a column and towed artillery. So if the soldiers obey the order and open fire, there will be mountains of corpses.

[oldstaryi]

Unfortunately, everything is clear. If they didn’t want to use, they wouldn’t drive. Plus, the video skipped today about the Ukrainian column. army. There were hailstones in a column and towed artillery. So if the soldiers obey the order and open fire, there will be mountains of corpses.

And here is the video: http://tv.mk.ru/video/6423-vostok-ukrainyi-vse-kadryi-predchuvstvie-grazhdanskoy
-voynyi.html

[bender8282]

good old gouging! there is nothing to send similar cars to civilians!

[Sergei75]

And laugh inappropriately, an accident. Sorry for the guys, you yourself tried to ride this nonsense, the size, out of habit, is not felt. They probably put me behind the wheel without preparation and said, go .... Eternal memory to them!

[Apollo]

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[TEODOR]

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[Apollo]

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[TEODOR]

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Thank you

[Apollo]

Quote: Sergei75

For whom are they ......................

Forbidden.

[Sergei75]

So after all, it is OTHERS so they call us .... And the Ukrainian and Russian are brothers!

[Sergei75]

What, nationalists among us?

[Smiles to you]

Are you smoking? Another explanation. I don’t see ... Tomorrow is the same in the clinic ...

[Smiles to you]

I, however, broke a little. My comment is also possible. delete. Thank...

[Lazy]

Drive the equipment back and forth. Clowns. And this is not their first loss, by the way ...

[Sergei75]

Tell about our "stories"?

[Arkan]

This is not for you. Sorry for the boys. Those who put them, without driving experience, behind the wheel, must be given to the tribunal.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Arkan

Sorry for the boys.

I wonder if these "boys" would have pity on the people for whom the missiles were transported? Hurricane is a very powerful multiple launch rocket system.

[Login]

People are always sorry.

[Kornilovets]

Lugansk activists convinced paratroopers to return to Dnepropetrovsk.



“After negotiations with the personnel of the 25th separate brigade of the airborne forces that arrived to us on orders from Kiev, some servicemen expressed a desire to return to Dnepropetrovsk, to the place of permanent deployment. Self-defense forces of the Lugansk region escorted them to the border with the Donetsk region and transferred them to local militias for further escort to Dnepropetrovsk, ”said Chmilenko.

On the territory of the Luhansk region, weapons were not seized from servicemen, Interfax notes.

Original article: http://russian.rt.com/article/27778#ixzz2ysKwgwaD

[APASUS]

It is full of adequate people. Who to shoot at your people?
Yes, and the lessons of Golden Eagle do not pass in vain

[mamont5]

"During the transfer of military equipment, a 9T452 TZM (a transport-loading vehicle that is part of the multiple launch rocket system) fell into the reservoir. As a result of the incident, two servicemen were killed, and another person (the operator of the system) was seriously injured."

Well, again. They told them not to touch the equipment, otherwise it might break, they could get hurt by accident.

[Stavros]

Who are they going to shoot at from a rocket launcher?

[nikcris]

In you (((I'm sorry, but in you.

[Duelist]

So these bastards for fratricide and seized power - it's 3,14 ndosovsky mongrel!

[UpgradeComplete]

Ahah)) circus) ahah) small, small, small!

[Horly]

Guys - yes, take away the equipment from the Ukrainian army - until you have finally killed yourself!

[svp67]

People died. Guys, who are foolish and not trained. You can not be happy about this. There is no war, but they are already perishing for a wrong cause ...

[ya.seliwerstov2013]

Eh, what can I say? Your head is on the block ...
They decided to scare Russia? Sami is now in fear!

[RN40Y45]

It’s a pity the men died in vain, but these bitch will not remember about them ...

[Smiles to you]

And Their Mothers will write: You son died heroically defending the Motherland ... Your mother is so ... Sorry ...

[boozer]

Or maybe the guys are heroes - they realized that they would shoot from the Grad on their own, decided not to let this happen and died along with the equipment and missiles?

[Wiruz]

But they want to NATO

[Renat]

Sometimes it happens. What to do. Men's work.

[VADEL]

Quote: Lazy

Drive the equipment back and forth. Clowns. And this is not their first loss, by the way.

I agree! They have not started charging yet ... and shoot tfu tfu tfu

[kocclissi]

And how many more, such stupid deaths, because of such "commanders" as Turchinov and Avakov? Giving stupid and criminal orders ...

[Akulina]

It’s a sin to laugh - people died - young guys - but for what, for whom? Somewhere now, the mothers howled in a voice ... And besides, they are cursing, surely, Russia again ... The more blood will be shed, the deeper the gap between us, the more impossible reconciliation ...

[nikcris]

Yes. Sad

[fly fishing]

You are moving in the wrong direction, you guys are going to Kiev, then it will make sense and we will help you and life will be happy. For the idiots of amers and Nazis, you give your lives.

[konvalval]

Quote: Arkan

This is not for you. Sorry for the boys. Those who put them, without driving experience, behind the wheel, must be given to the tribunal.

The junta, which started this pornography, must be tribunalized. To ask these m.d.a.k.o. why to drive all their "military" equipment to the South-East? I wish we took Amin's palace like that. Marasmus.

[nikcris]

Quote: Valentine77 64

And didn’t you, gentlemen, think that the entire top of the junta was assembled with comical drives for the Russian language? egg, Durchin, pulling, sold, nalivaka, fang, etc ...

And this one, deshovka. Ministry of Foreign Affairs

[jagdpanzer]

guys feel sorry and don’t have to mock their army; here, too, things are not super!

[AleBors]

Sorry for the kids. Could live and live ... Here are their commanders, to the answer ... !!

[SERGEY76]

Quote: Renat

Sometimes it happens. What to do. Men's work.

Yeah, only men need to do it, I guess. That is, those who are ABLE to drive a car and manage all its components and assemblies. Or not?

[starhina01]

it turns out you have to wait, and they’ll run out of technology and gasoline

[SS68SS]

Thank God before the shooting has not yet reached ....

[Egor69]

Gentlemen, it should be recognized that among the warring parties in Ukraine there is a place to be ordinary sabotage. The leaders of the parties can and have a desire to shoot. Especially from Kiev, but ordinary people absolutely do not want to shoot and fight. And it is right. There are so few of us in this world)))

[nikcris]

What was still not enough for complete happiness - to fight with the ho.hl.a.l.m. !!! Send FSE f ass - we will drink vodka with lard. And let Obama repair the toilet with Merkel.

[Giant thought]

The level of training of personnel is obvious, or rather, the lack of such.

[kelevra]

So in a hurry to destroy and incinerate the civilian population of the Southeast, that in the middle of the road the lake was not noticed!

[maksim]

it’s strange that it was still moving under its own power and not on a hitch with a bulldozer, then it would not be so funny

[maksim]

The acting president of Ukraine, Alexander Turchinov, signed a decree on the beginning of a special operation in the east of the country, Turchinov’s press service said on Monday, April 14.

“To enact the decision of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine of April 13, 2014“ On urgent measures to overcome the terrorist threat and preserve the territorial integrity of Ukraine ”(attached, secretly)”
Read more at Forbes.ru: http://www.forbes.ru/news/254693-turchinov-podpisal-ukaz-o-nachale-spetsoperatsi
i-na-vostoke-ukrainy

[Drshan]

And where is the reference?

[Russ69]

What kind of scum in the Donetsk region, people are shot at ...

[Gorinich]

Those who travel there !!! Yes, you understand at last, there a full-fledged civil war has begun! Do not be idiots, choose other roads.

[Smiles to you]

Pravoseki, or mercenaries ... IMHO ...

[I read the news]

Pravoseki or PMC. No one else.

[With Petrovsky]

What's question? It is obvious to those who bring troops there.

[Drshan]

A uniform under the "polite".

[Corsair]

Quote: Russ69

What kind of scum in the Donetsk region, people are shot at ...

The devil will break his leg in the Ukrainian "showdown" ...

"Naryl" in the network here is the following information about "Yavir2000":

Alfa fighter killed by people driving a car of a company guarding Rinat’s business
[08: 15 14 April 2014 years]

A soldier of the Alpha special forces was killed in Slavyansk by people traveling in a car of the security company Yavir 2000. About this on the air of the channel "112 Ukraine" said the deputy of the faction "BLOW" Sergei Kaplin, according to UNIAN.
“An employee of Alpha was killed in Slavyansk, this is the 42-year-old Poltava citizen. There is information that people who got out of a car owned by the largest security company in Ukraine Yavir 2000 fired on a group of Alfovites. The owner of the company is a deputy of the regional council, a regional who, as far as I know, was closely associated with [ex-deputy secretary of the NSDC Vladimir] Sivkovich. We will check this information, it is possible that such a car may have been stolen, some provocative scenarios are also possible, ”said Kaplin.
Recall that in Ukraine there is a security company “Yavir-2000”. The owner of Yavir-2000 LLC is Yevgeny Likhozhon, deputy of the Poltava Regional Council from the Party of Regions. Since 2010 of the year, this company has received 80,40 million UAH for the protection of DTEK Rinat Akhmetov's enterprises - Krymenergo, Kyivenergo and Donetskoblenergo. From other customers, Yavir-2000 received security contracts only for 5,44 million UAH. Http: //www.ukrrudprom.ua/

[Negative]

if things go on like this, they will defeat themselves

[Valentine77 64]

And didn’t you, gentlemen, think that the entire top of the junta was assembled with comical drives for the Russian language? egg, Durchin, pulling, sold, nalivaka, fang, etc ...

[With Petrovsky]

Gogol's characters. Exactly no script needed, everything is ready.

[prophet]

Quote: Monk

And laughing is a sin.

Tears! We were driven by such cars for five months every day, and then probably two hours of "flying"

[Black]

I do not understand the reasons for mockery. As if on the other side EVERYTHING !! drowned.
In order to start a blood bath, the hunters of TZM are not much needed.
They do not win, they have an order from the CIA to start. Just get started.

[sharingan]

Why is there no word in the article about the agents of the bloody Putin? :)

[andj61]

People have nothing to do with it. They suffer from incompetence. In order to bring military equipment onto public roads, it must be prepared, and people must be instructed and trained; the equipment must move in columns, in an organized manner. And the network is full of videos of armored personnel carriers, trucks with artillery on trailers, and GRAD installations following in the general flow of vehicles right among civilian vehicles. Under such circumstances, an emergency will definitely happen, just like Chekhov - if there is a gun, it must fire.

[pvv113]

During the transfer of military equipment into a reservoir, TZM 9T452 landed

Putin is again to blame

[redka]

It’s strange, maybe the Russian special services did it?

[kind]

According to the preliminary version, the serviceman driving the car lost control.

The base chassis ZIL-135LM on this TZM has heavy steering. If you do not add fluid to the power steering in time, you will have to turn the steering wheel with almost two people (especially in winter). Therefore, at speed you may not fit into a turn, especially if you do not have the skills to drive this car. You can also drive the ZIL-135LM with one of two engines. In this case, the drive of the wheels of one side is turned off and they rotate freely, and since the wheels of the opposite side are driving, the steering wheel constantly moves towards the driven side. Thus, you have to constantly compensate for this shift with the steering wheel. The driver most likely did not know these features and did not have the skills.

[sso-xnumx]

Most likely this is what caused the disaster.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

It’s time to re-form the structures of the NKVD and SMERSH..(archives to raise agents..) The work ahead is big and painstaking..

[VikVik741]

Donbass is a country of cities and the population density here is very large. Here, if possible, we intercepted the ammunition for the Grads, too, but the question is “THEY WERE GOING TO USE THEM IN OUR CITIES!!!!!!!”. Truly American humanism, European values!

[maestro123]

Fuck it (hardware), I still feel sorry for people.

[Ivan 63]

This is grief for the family and narcissism is not appropriate here. And besides, whoever said that this is impossible for us - a year of service, this is just, excuse me, not even a laugh - this is sabotage and sabotage.

[jjj]

I propose to trace the chain of events. From America, the CIA brought a special operation plan to Ukraine. Turchinov put the plan into action. The plan provides for the use of weapons, including against civilians. Military equipment begins to advance to the lines indicated in the plan. To use a weapon. One car sinks, people die. They die while participating in a war against their own people. Should we mourn these deaths? I believe that one should grieve over these losses only after everything is over. When fire is opened on people, can we lament that the enemy has less ammunition and fewer weapons? And we will secretly rejoice that everything turned out this way. But, if troops are not used, then we will honor the memory of the innocently killed soldiers. In the meantime, they formally took part in a criminal action on the side of the enemy

[Bayonet]

And here's what the website "Russian Spring" reports --- "On the border of the Sumy and Poltava regions tonight, April 14, the BM-21 Grad divisional multiple launch rocket system, driving across a bridge, fell into a reservoir. There were three people in the car: two of them drowned, and one managed to survive. The military prosecutor's office is conducting an investigation into this fact.

As “Russian Spring” has already reported, in just one day when general combat readiness was announced in March of this year, five tanks burned in Ukraine, a military plane crashed and a howitzer exploded.” - so what drowned there anyway?

[tokens2]

An uncontrollable army...that's strong.
Some analogies from history come to mind... apparently the ending will be like this:
columns of prisoners... a lot of abandoned equipment on the roads with damned references to the corrupt leadership...
Or even simpler... a passport is nothing! St. George's ribbon and you are already in Russia)))
But where is the world coming to?
Oh, to convince future fellow citizens that they are acting in a big crowd, which will simply respond with horror to all citizens of the EC). These Russians are simply barbarians - they sweep away everything and everyone on the way.
Well, these are already problems for the EU. They have been convincing for a long time that Russians are not in Russia - they are just Russian-speaking...

[nikcris]

WTF? What analogies? Columns of prisoners? Are you out of your mind? Blah!!! How, I change - the bastards multiply...

[tokens2]

WTF? What analogies? Columns of prisoners? Are you out of your mind? Blah!!! How, I change - the bastards multiply...

What about thinking?
This is what I would like to see:

Or even simpler... a passport is nothing! St. George's ribbon and you are already in Russia)))

Ukrainian passport...
But there must be an alternative option in the minds of the bastards who shoot at their fellow citizens:

columns of prisoners... a lot of abandoned equipment on the roads with damned references to the corrupt leadership...

[tokens2]

Yes... and I didn’t give you a minus - these are all the machinations of “enemies”
An uncontrollable army in today's conditions is a strong trump card. The United States is simply playing for time because such a blitzkrieg of unknown forces in Ukraine greatly complicates the worldview of the Western public. And this is not humor at all. The West needs to stretch out the ideologically difficult failures in Ukraine - just how? in the management of the Ukrainian army there is a mess - With.
It’s better to surrender to the West, otherwise... there will simply be tectonic shifts - but in Western societies themselves.

[anfil]

[quote=Little Mook]
I do not justify anyone, but these are people. Our, albeit a little sick, but our guys.

There can be no good or honest enemy. Having identified yourself as an enemy, be prepared to answer for your actions.

...The enemy always remains the enemy
Don't share your bread with him
Don't invite him into the house
Even if the air smells like peace
Although he is calm, he is still an enemy
If he, like you, didn’t drink away his honor
He can't be an ex
He will and is...

[alexgrin]

They haven't started shooting yet. They'll kill each other!

[A1L9E4K9S]

Quote: max73

people died, maybe enough to throw hats? I look at the controversy - and it scares me ... where does this hatred come from? the very same Ukrainians, because of the specifics of the national, do not crave war at all ... sorry, but you can’t laugh at the people and, moreover, shamefully be like jackals ....

Stop, citizens, let's figure it out, it turns out to be an interesting movie, in the end we also find ourselves to blame, it's Russia that's not good, it's screwed poor Ukraine, it's not giving it a life. It's Russia that caused all the riots, Maidans, drives people to rallies, forces the Ukrainian army or what’s left of it, saber-rattling, refusing gas supplies at the price ten years ago. And note, comrade, no one is laughing at Ukraine, they sinfully laugh at sick people, we want to cry looking at what the once prosperous country has turned into .And for your information, we are not jackals, watch the market.

[commode77]

The Russian Ministry of Defense commented to RIA Novosti on the audio recording of negotiations allegedly of a “GRU sabotage group” posted on the SBU website.

“I would wish not only the authors of this opus, but also their puppeteers, to better teach the material part and instructions on intelligence. And only the pioneers used the kind of slang that was used in “super interception” when playing “Zarnitsa,” said an interlocutor at the Russian Ministry of Defense.

According to him, “in this audio clip there appears to be an error in the name of the organization in question.” “Apparently, this is due to the great excitement and fear of its authors. We are not talking about Russian military intelligence, but about the Main Intelligence Directorate (GUR) of the Ukrainian General Staff,” said a veteran of the Russian General Staff.

He recalled that “on the eve of April 11, special forces from the main intelligence department of the General Staff of Ukraine arrived in the Donetsk region, as all Ukrainian media wrote about.” “It is no coincidence that in the audio recording provided by the SBU, the militias talk about some kind of clash, where they were late,” the interlocutor noted.

Apparently, he continued, fighters of the Ukrainian special forces, not knowing the terrain, ambushed at the entrance to Slavyansk and liquidated the head of the anti-terrorist center of Ukraine, taking him and the accompanying motorcade for the rebels.

“This explains the cancellation of the assault on Slavyansk, which was planned for the morning of April 14. Now it’s clear why, after the meeting of the National Security and Defense Council, Turchynov (Alexander Turchynov, appointed acting president of Ukraine by the Verkhovna Rada - ed.) immediately replaced the head of the SBU anti-terrorism center for this failure,” the source said

[Hamul]

In Ukraine, as always, diarrhea is not scrofula

[crcomp]

but it’s a pity for the boys who are untrained, young and innocent of anything, and their mothers

[lelikas]

Quote: vasek-3180

Dumb demiator! My name is Vasily.

Everyone has their shortcomings :)

[alexpro66]

And here’s how the Donetsk people catch a T-64 with their BARE hands AND WITH THE HELP OF SOME “MOTHER”!!! ALMOST NO COMBAT LOSSES FOR THE JUNTA.

[gav6757]

I feel sorry for the people, of course, but such tragedies cannot be avoided... You’ve seen what kind of clowns are drafted into the Ukrainian army. If you want to stay alive, STAY IN THE BARRACKS!!!

[Villas]

Today I watched 1+1, they fucking make Russia an enemy.... they showed their “national guard”, so they are seriously going to fight with the Russians, do you feel sorry for them? After watching, I had a desire to bomb that whole part to hell.

[VNP1958PVN]

God punishes...

[Sars]

Having suffered heavy losses in manpower and equipment, the Ukrainian army crossed the border with Russia and surrendered to the mercy of the victors!

[voveim]

In general, by loss:
T-64B 5 units.
Tor-M1 1 unit.
Su-24M 1 unit.
TZM 9T452 1 unit.

I heard about 64 and about “drying” too. And when did they manage to destroy “Thor”?