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NATO ships in the Black Sea - an attempt to save face in front of Ukrainian wards

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As it became known last week, the American destroyer Donald Cook and the French large reconnaissance ship Dupuy de Lome entered the Black Sea. The first ship arrived April 8, and the second April 11. Already on April 14, the French frigate Dupleix will join these combat vehicles. The ships will participate in the exercises, and will probably visit the port in Odessa.

It is worth noting that the ships were not chosen by chance - this applies especially to the American destroyer. In order to try to exert pressure on Russia and portray the support of the newly-minted authorities of Ukraine, a ship was chosen that was equipped with the most powerful missile defense system in service with the United States. The French ships have less potential, and, apparently, were sent to the Black Sea leadership, to curry favor with their American partners in NATO.

The question arises - do the above-mentioned warships pose a real danger to the Russian Federation? To understand this, you should pay attention to what they are armed with, as well as to the means of opposition that Russia can use against them.

The American destroyer Donald Cook belongs to the destroyers of the type "Arly Burke", has a full displacement in 9073 tons (according to the Montreux Convention, ships with a displacement of up to 10000 tons can pass to the Black Sea). The ship is equipped with the most modern multipurpose combat information-control system "Aegis", which allows you to effectively manage all means of attack and defense of the ship. The destroyer is equipped with the same name missile defense system "Aegis", which can be equipped with either SM-2 interceptors, with a range of about 150 km and height - from 150 m to 15 km, or SM-3 with a range of up to 500 km, and height to 250 km (interception outside the atmosphere). The system is able to deal with all classes of ballistic missiles except intercontinental. From the strike armament, the ship is equipped with BGM-109 Tomahawk Block 3 cruise missiles, with a range of up to 1600 km (they can be up to 56 units on a ship). Anti-ship armament is represented by Harpoon subsonic missiles with a range of up to 150 km.

The French destroyer Dupleix of the Georges Leghy type has a displacement of about 4500 tons. Armed it is noticeably more modest than the American ship. Noteworthy are Exocset anti-ship missiles with a range of 180 km. The basis of the destroyer air defense system is the "Crotale Naval" air defense missile system with a range of up to 10 km.

Russia can deal with these ships in various ways - for this purpose, both the Bastion coastal anti-ship systems, the Onyx supersonic anti-ship missiles with a range of up to 500 km, and the Moscow missile cruiser, with the P-1000 heavy supersonic missiles "Volcano", with a launch range of up to 700 km. In addition, you can always pull up the anti-ship Aviation. All of these RCC can fly at very low altitudes. It is worth noting that even 1-2 missile hits may be enough to completely destroy the enemy destroyers, since the warhead of the rocket explodes after the rocket flying at supersonic speed breaks through the skin of the ship and flies inside. A huge number of such missiles can be sent to NATO ships at the same time, and there can be no talk of any interception - hypothetical targets will be destroyed in a very short time.

As you can see, the grouping of NATO ships carries no serious danger to the Russian Federation. It can be assumed that this is one of the attempts by the United States to save face in front of the de facto Ukrainian authorities who planted them in Kiev. After all, Americans cannot offer their accomplices any real help, apart from the endless attacks of anti-Russian hysteria at various international venues. They do not give any promised loans and financial injections to Ukraine, and, apparently, they will not give them soon - even US pressure is not enough to force EU countries to allocate money that no one is going to return guaranteed. Yes, and close the largest market for its products in the face of the Russian Federation.

So, the newly-minted Ukrainian de facto authorities will have to indulge their self-esteem with such small handouts, watching how the country falls into pieces because of their thoughtless and criminal decisions. And wait for the same, when their former Maidanovist nationalist friends will overthrow them. By the way, Georgia turned out to be in a similar situation in August 2008 of the year, when the symbolic support of “Western friends” was in no way able to level out the consequences of Saakashvili’s unbalanced and dangerous policy.
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  1. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov April 15 2014 12: 33
    +45
    And us! bully
    newly minted Ukrainian de facto authorities will have to amuse their vanity with such small handouts
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 April 15 2014 13: 00
      +14
      Quote: MIKHAN
      newly minted Ukrainian de facto authorities

      They say to non-Ukrainian authorities -
      Another coup took place in Kiev - all power in the hands of CIA agents
      ... And therefore, in connection with the categorically unwillingness of the Pastora to navigate the ship in the course necessary for the Master, but not approved by Tymoshenko, in the situation of the strictest secrecy (though it did not help) "Mr. Johnson" rushed to Kiev with the task to do the "routine the case "at least a carcass, at least a stuffed animal. Now: attention.

      All that will be said further, I ask you to consider an invention of pure water. This was not the case. The stump is clear that it was not. And nevertheless ... There are such rumors in Kiev that Tymoshenko and Pastor resisted. The demand for "tourist Johnson" smells like a lot of blood, and the Pastor, - so, in all cases, they say, - God ordered to "shed a little, redeeming" blood, but no more. So, both after they were intimidated with leaked compromising evidence, and after they were threatened with the "wrath of the Maidan" (for which the white-hot meat is already quite ready), and after the faithful but frightened Avakov agreed to distribute weapons to the militants , that is, he left under the link of CIA-OPG "SBU" / PS, Pastor, referring to the opinion of the Above, did not make any concessions, even, - they say, - when the barrel was stuck in his mouth. And only when (there are rumors) how this very barrel was pushed deeper and turned, the decree on the beginning of the special operation was finally signed (in parallel with the decree on appointing the gorilla responsible for the operation, directly tied to the agents of CIA Marchuk and Nalyvaichenko), followed by and Tymoshenko, who kicked to the end, had to voice (youtube) the text proposed for reading, meaning her complete refusal both from her own position and, moreover, in fact, from claims to the presidential post. For a number of reasons, it was important for those who wrote the cheat sheet that it was she who uttered these words. And now these are no longer rumors, but the most objective reality.

      Thus, an elderly, jerky woman who is not furious and not hysterical. She is desperate, and why. But this is purely her problem. The main thing: the day before yesterday or yesterday there was a coup in Kiev. Bloodless, - this "tourist Jonson" was able to achieve, - "shadow", but full-fledged.
      It is not without reason that almost all of the satisfied "regionals" squealed with the fierceness of the doomed. They can be understood: they have known socially close "yulks" for more than one year and get along perfectly, and the forces that have broken through to the steering wheel, after May, if May happens, will tear them alive. But this is purely their problem. Now the official, as it were, the president, and in general, the official, as it were, is just a decoration. The line to "restoring order" came to naught, and all power was collected in the hands of nonhumans, who, by convictions and duty of service, were pushing matters towards a big war. And from now on, everyone who is interested in the plot in one way or another - including both the South-East and the Kremlin - should proceed only from this ...


      Source: IA REX
      http://www.iarex.ru/interviews/47001.html
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      2. dmitrich
        dmitrich April 15 2014 13: 17
        +16
        old nag, like a drunk.
        1. Ataman
          Ataman April 15 2014 13: 20
          +14
          Ships will participate in the exercises, and are likely to visit the port in Odessa.

          And so they will leave Odessa.
          1. inkass_98
            inkass_98 April 15 2014 15: 10
            +4
            Quote: Ataman
            And so they will leave Odessa.

            This is if you can raise it from the bottom. And then there will be nothing to raise.
        2. Genry
          Genry April 15 2014 13: 22
          +17
          One eye does not obey, as if artificial.
          1. Alez
            Alez April 15 2014 13: 28
            +12
            Part of the brain from the frequent use of Coke has died. Grandfather with a scythe will come soon - Old Man Parkinson, everything will begin to twitch and shake at Yulenka.
        3. Stalevar
          Stalevar April 15 2014 13: 42
          +7
          old nag, like a drunk.
          She looks like Sharikov, Polygraph Poligrafovich))
          1. dmitrich
            dmitrich April 16 2014 12: 35
            0
            Quote: Stalevar
            She looks like Sharikov, Polygraph Poligrafovich))

            probably her yanukovych in prison tortured.
        4. Good cat
          Good cat April 15 2014 13: 57
          +7
          So recently reclined))))
        5. Alex 241
          Alex 241 April 15 2014 15: 18
          +7
          Our doors are always open for you Julia!
          Quote: Dmitry
          old nag, like a drunk.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 April 15 2014 15: 38
            +2
            Quote: Alex 241
            Our doors are always open for you Julia!

            Kashchenko? laughing
            1. Alex 241
              Alex 241 April 15 2014 15: 42
              +2
              Gannushkina, that on Poteshnaya street, is also ready.
        6. gfnhbjnrf
          gfnhbjnrf April 15 2014 17: 39
          0
          she's just a drug addict. and it looks like a good experience
        7. asar
          asar April 15 2014 19: 27
          0
          Well, the toad is terrible! wassat
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        8. Andrei Forge 67
          Andrei Forge 67 April 15 2014 20: 40
          0
          rather on the bum!
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      3. desant_doktor
        desant_doktor April 15 2014 13: 18
        +2
        Alarming Comrade, and you can’t throw a source of information (not rumors from Kiev, understandably)?
        1. Rus2012
          Rus2012 April 15 2014 13: 41
          +2
          Quote: desant_doktor
          Alarming Comrade, and you can’t throw a source of information (not rumors from Kiev, understandably)?

          alas ... but sometimes rumors are more accurate
      4. R-118bm3
        R-118bm3 April 15 2014 13: 22
        +5
        If Merkel is Hitler’s granddaughter, then Tymoshenko is Kashchenko’s patient.
      5. alex-s
        alex-s April 15 2014 13: 32
        +3
        Tymoshenko, kicking to the end, came with an expression to voice (youtube) the text proposed to be read, meaning her complete refusal as her own position


        But her left eye really doesn’t open! I really caught a hike in a turnip!
      6. Mikros
        Mikros April 15 2014 13: 34
        +4
        I look, she has already pulled an eye on opu))))
        1. Little Muck
          Little Muck April 15 2014 14: 39
          +3
          Or maybe when they put in a position, she missed her mouth, and caught it in the eye. laughing
      7. smart Fox
        smart Fox April 15 2014 13: 45
        +8
        and what is with her left eye, or it twitches, roofing felts does not open to the end. Someone has already given this "woman" in the eye, or the eye has decided to declare sovereignty. That's after all, even the eye does not want to serve Yulia-abnormal.
      8. Yurban
        Yurban April 15 2014 14: 39
        +3
        It’s normal to see a slut coke sniffing, her gaze sharpened specifically, even the left eye does not obey.
      9. Ev58
        Ev58 April 15 2014 16: 03
        +1
        The lady with the scythe, in addition to a facelift, was probably tightened up the gyrus of the brain. She is now able to think more radically and straightforwardly. But seriously, why in our days no one can give a worthy rebuff to neo-fascism? Because there are forces interested in the existence of such hotbeds of tension. So what? The international legal field does not know what to do about it? "And there is no normally functioning international legal field," any sane person would say, since racism, neo-fascism, extremism are actually encouraged, but in words ... "blah, blah, blah ..." are empty slogans, condemnations, raised eyebrows and etc.
      10. delfinN
        delfinN April 15 2014 16: 31
        +1
        Bagel dug to coke ...
        There are no uncles with guns behind her and the egg ... And there are behind the Natsiks, and she, the campaign, the malechs were upset by the reincarnation of the panochka ... The deputies of the Rada organized classes on combat training.
      11. Nekarmadlen
        Nekarmadlen April 15 2014 16: 33
        +1
        I can’t understand one thing, Tymoshenko is far from being a fool, all the more so she has gathered for the presidency, why does she need all this nonsense of military suppression of the southeast? Look how she sharply frowned! Oh, sorry, I just read the same thoughts above ... There is something to think about ...
    2. avg
      avg April 15 2014 13: 56
      +5
      As you can see, the grouping of NATO ships poses no serious danger to the Russian Federation. It can be assumed that this is one of the attempts by the United States to save face before the de facto authorities of Ukraine who were planted in Kiev.

      For mattress toppers, driving back and forth is not a problem. But how much joy they brought to the Svidomo naval commanders from the Censor website. As the Black Sea Fleet was smashed there, Kapudan Pasha turned over in his grave, begged not to anger the Russians. laughing
    3. Siberian19
      Siberian19 April 15 2014 15: 03
      +20


      The Pentagon admitted that simulating a Su-24 attack on a US Navy destroyer had a demoralizing effect on the crew 27 crew members of the destroyer filed a resignation report. Commenting on their actions, they said that they did not intend to endanger their lives.

      The Pentagon issued a statement on Monday stating that the Russian Su-24 bomber flew several times on Saturday near the US Navy destroyer Donald Cook in the Black Sea and simulated a military attack several times.

      As Pentagon spokesman Colonel Stephen Warren told Reuter, a Russian bomber flew twelve times at low altitude not far from an American destroyer. He called these maneuvers intimidating and unacceptable, since this demoralizes the personnel of the ship and negatively affects the general psychological climate among the military personnel.

      Warren noted that the destroyer patrolled the waters in the west of the Black Sea when the incident occurred. According to him, now the ship is safe in the Romanian port, where it was urgently evacuated. The crew members undergo the necessary procedures with a psychologist to recover from the stress.

      "Donald Cook" - the third, in a row, the US Navy ship, which was sent to the Black Sea in recent years. Earlier, the United States had already sent a missile frigate Taylor to the sea, but the ship ran aground off the Black Sea coast of Turkey, which is why it was unable to continue its mission.

      Under international maritime treaties, American ships cannot be in the Black Sea for more than 14 days, and exceeding this period gives Russia the legal right to launch a missile attack and destroy these ships without declaring US war. Knowing this possibility, crew members and commanders of American ships naturally worry about their lives. And although the Pentagon promised to increase the insurance amount of military personnel from 1 million dollars. up to 3 million dollars, it’s all the same, few people are reassured, since there are few chances to survive on the high seas and then get insurance payment, but the dead do not need money.

      As a result, the crew of the Donald Cook was forced to sail with a shortage of personnel, and the dismissal of another 27 crew members, who may be followed by others, jeopardizes the further successful implementation of the task.

      The Pentagon admitted that the simulated attack of the Su-24 on the destroyer of the US Navy had a demoralizing effect on the crew

      Andrey Chumakov,
      news agency novorus.info
      1. nikcris
        nikcris April 15 2014 15: 47
        +3
        They, bl, should be presented with the recording of the sound of the "Bear" warming up - diapers will immediately become scarce in Constanta.
      2. SPS33
        SPS33 April 15 2014 15: 49
        +5
        Well, they polluted the Black Sea with fear! Ours are also fine fellows, you can scare the farther so overseas warrior, they are winners everywhere, they are afraid of them everywhere, and here such embarrassment!
        1. typhoon7
          typhoon7 April 15 2014 16: 54
          +3
          It’s not for them to drive the Papuans, their legs probably flowed. Drying passing above the ship at low altitude, the spectacle is probably impressive.
      3. Sandov
        Sandov April 15 2014 15: 55
        +3
        Quote: Siberian19
        As Pentagon spokesman Colonel Stephen Warren told Reuter, a Russian bomber flew twelve times at low altitude not far from an American destroyer. He called these maneuvers intimidating and unacceptable, since this demoralizes the personnel of the ship and negatively affects the general psychological climate among the military personnel.

        The Americans are getting used to it. Russia is getting up.
        1. ermolai
          ermolai April 15 2014 18: 50
          +1
          Why isn’t it so humane? even if they threw off the packaging of diapers, and now what service in the outfitted trousers? not a single comrade will take a sip, and wash the queue is large, but if the submarine showed a periscope?
      4. Svetlana
        Svetlana April 15 2014 16: 14
        +2
        Probably, they didn’t have time to reach the toilets, the zas.rans.
      5. Wedmak
        Wedmak April 15 2014 16: 15
        +9
        The Pentagon admitted that simulating a Su-24 attack on a US Navy destroyer had a demoralizing effect on the crew 27 crew members of the destroyer filed a resignation report.

        He called these maneuvers intimidating and unacceptable, since this demoralizes the personnel of the ship and negatively affects the general psychological climate among the military personnel.

        The crew members undergo the necessary procedures with a psychologist to recover from the stress.

        Knowing this possibility, crew members and commanders of American ships naturally worry about their lives.

        AND THIS ... sailors ?????? !!! belay I mean, how to launch axes 300 km from the enemy - invincible heroes, but how an unarmed scout flew by nearby - the production of bricks broke all plans and almost drowned from the gravity? Her ... if even half of this is true, we won't even have to fight with them if something happens. One sight of "Peter" on the horizon will make you turn your sneakers home and at full speed.
        1. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt April 15 2014 19: 40
          +2
          Quote: Wedmak
          One sight of "Peter" on the horizon will make you turn your sneakers home and at full speed.
          "Peter" let him guard the areas of our northern seas so that our submariners always have the opportunity to shoot and even "in one gulp!" yes And for uninvited guests in the Black Sea theater of operations, it is enough to fly towards the same Su-24 “in a half-body kit.” Minimum costs --- maximum result, one tablet is enough)))
      6. desant_doktor
        desant_doktor April 15 2014 16: 40
        +2
        AND THIS IS THE Navy OF THE COUNTRY THAT TYPE IS ALL STRONGEST ???? !!!! This is [censored], comrades! ONE scout forced crap from fear of 27 valiant MILITARY sailors? I have no words! This is all the USA!
      7. Sigizbarn
        Sigizbarn April 15 2014 16: 56
        +1
        And if near to arrange training firing at sea targets. the entire 3rd fleet will flee to a psychologist.
      8. skifd
        skifd April 15 2014 18: 04
        +1
        Quote: Siberian19
        news agency novorus.info


        Sorry, but it looks like a fake. I did not find any more links. Maybe someone found another link ?? Well, I really want to believe !!!
      9. asar
        asar April 15 2014 19: 35
        0
        And this was the flight of only one DRY! And the Yankes are already demoralized, they need the help of a psychologist! Weak, nets! Better bring down before the "bear" disease "earned"! laughing
      10. Russian
        Russian April 15 2014 20: 48
        0
        sailed to Romania
    4. gfhjkm
      gfhjkm April 15 2014 15: 05
      +9
      Lightning information went to life nuze. The head of the CIA came to Ukraine because 20 American mercenaries disappeared there and no one knows where they are. It seems ours worked there.
      1. nikcris
        nikcris April 15 2014 15: 50
        +10
        They dig my garden with toothpicks. As they dig up, I will tell the neighbor - his septic tank is full - they will suck out cocktail straws. hi
      2. Sandov
        Sandov April 15 2014 15: 56
        +3
        Quote: gfhjkm
        Lightning information went to life nuze. The head of the CIA came to Ukraine because 20 American mercenaries disappeared there and no one knows where they are. It seems ours worked there.

        Dog canine death.
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    6. ziqzaq
      ziqzaq April 15 2014 16: 29
      +3
      Quote: MIKHAN
      newly minted Ukrainian de facto authorities will have to amuse their vanity with such small handouts

      I read an article on Runet’s expanses that after the incident with our Su-24 and Donald Cook, 27 crew members of the latter filed resignation reports explaining that they did not intend to risk their lives ..... I don’t know if it could be trolling. ... I read at work, now I'm sitting at home I can not find this article .....
      If this is true, then there are no words .... Warriors, their mother ... Ugh .... They can only kill defenseless people .... U.ro.dy filthy ....
      1. bubalik
        bubalik April 15 2014 16: 32
        +3
        ziqzaq (3) SU  Today, 16: 29

        KOLUN RU  Today, 16: 03


        Meanwhile, the "gallant" US warriors suffer the first losses (they need psychological counseling) after the flight of our SU-24:
        https://vk.com/away.php?to=http%3A%2F%2Fnovorus.info%2Fnews%2Fpolicy%2F15233-pen

        tagon-priznal-chto-imitaciya-ataki-su-24-na-esminec-vms-ssha-proizvela-demoraliz

        uyuschiy-effekt-na-ekipazh.html
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    7. Army1
      Army1 April 15 2014 20: 47
      0
      Yes, this is a political move, if one destroyer posed a huge threat to us, then we could simply "surrender out of fear" and change pants.
  2. Petr1
    Petr1 April 15 2014 12: 33
    +23
    And su-24 already, 12 pushed Americans a whole time, they had no choice but to state their sincere concern !!
    1. from punk
      from punk April 15 2014 12: 40
      +11
      Quote: Petr1
      And the su-24 already, 12 whole times frightened the Americans

      in the Ukrainian media they persistently call the Su-24 a fighter. And the pilot is not a professional
      1. joum
        joum April 15 2014 12: 56
        +3
        Did they think he was sent to destroy a destroyer? )))
        1. andj61
          andj61 April 15 2014 13: 02
          +3
          Sent, but so, a little storm.
          1. Ased
            Ased April 15 2014 14: 04
            +3
            Quote: andj61
            Sent, but so, a little storm.


            Mute enemy acoustics. We have submarines hiding in the Black Sea! :) Here they can also swoop down. :))
      2. GSH-18
        GSH-18 April 15 2014 13: 02
        +8
        Quote: punk
        in the Ukrainian media they persistently call the Su-24 a fighter. And the pilot is not a professional

        Well so at the junta and agricultural machinery-dual-use! A lot of tractors and combines threatening Ukraine piled up on the Russian side before the sowing season! Russian military threat! lol There is hysteria in Kiev.
        1. Petergut
          Petergut April 15 2014 16: 43
          +2
          Quote: GSH-18

          ...
          A lot of tractors and combines threatening Ukraine piled up on the Russian side before the sowing season!
          ...
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    3. bif
      bif April 15 2014 13: 15
      +20
      Quote: Petr1
      And su-24 already, 12 pushed Americans a whole time, they had no choice but to state their sincere concern !!

      For an hour and a half, during an intimate photo session of the American destroyer and the subsequent transfer of this portfolio to the Russian Ministry of Defense, one reconnaissance aircraft based on the Su-24 bomber (without weapons) toned the sphincters of the entire crew. It is terrible to imagine the reaction to the appearance of several Su-24s "in all its glory"! Let them get used to it - they don't like uninvited guests in Russia.
    4. alex-s
      alex-s April 15 2014 13: 36
      +3
      And su-24 already, 12 pushed Americans a whole time, they had no choice but to state their sincere concern !!


      Interestingly, they had enough toilet paper to wipe off all their genuine concern?
    5. Allitet
      Allitet April 15 2014 13: 45
      +1
      They started seasick because of one bomber, but what if the squadron was raised into the air?
    6. Alex 241
      Alex 241 April 15 2014 14: 13
      +12
      Quote: Petr1
      And the su-24 already, 12 whole times frightened the Americans,

      Something immediately remembered!
      1. Kristoff
        Kristoff April 15 2014 14: 40
        +3
        dada) in the bullseye)
  3. Arhj
    Arhj April 15 2014 12: 35
    +17
    NATO ships in the Black Sea are less useful than dry rations. They could at least be sold, but what to do with this wealth?
    1. Lich
      Lich April 15 2014 12: 41
      +13
      Capture, paint in pink, replace live ammunition with firecrackers, send to Amsterdam .. Yes, a lot of things can be done :)
    2. Ross
      Ross April 15 2014 12: 44
      +14
      NATO ships in the Black Sea are less useful than dry rations. They could at least be sold, but what to do with this wealth?

      They came to support the "Great Ukraine" from Lviv to Ternopil!
    3. kocclissi
      kocclissi April 15 2014 12: 45
      +2
      So maybe they are the next batch of dry suds, they dragged by the sea .....
    4. joum
      joum April 15 2014 12: 57
      +1
      Here they will be surprised when they discover that the same ...
    5. andj61
      andj61 April 15 2014 13: 03
      +1
      Or maybe also that, in the sense, to sell?
    6. GSH-18
      GSH-18 April 15 2014 13: 09
      +5
      Quote: Arhj
      NATO ships in the Black Sea are less useful than dry rations. They could at least be sold, but what to do with this wealth?

      Don't tell me .. Pay attention to the two French ships, they are reconnaissance ships. And they will carry out reconnaissance (including intercepting information from the same weakly protected Crimea) to the fullest, taking advantage of the opportunity, so to speak .. Or maybe they will throw radio "poop" too ..
      These NATO "friends" have nothing to do in our Black Sea. Since this is our southern outpost from which the entire Mediterranean region is controlled.
      1. ZU-23
        ZU-23 April 15 2014 13: 32
        +2
        We sailed in front of our mice to report, they say we keep your mousetrap smile in general, such swimming must be stopped.
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      3. Alez
        Alez April 15 2014 13: 33
        +5
        At the moment, there is nothing to scout in Crimea, all the maps and locations of Eurohokhl have already been leaked. And ours still have not really turned around, it will take months and years.
        1. GSH-18
          GSH-18 April 15 2014 14: 50
          +3
          Quote: Alez
          At the moment, there’s nothing to scout in Crimea,

          Wrong.
          Now there is reconnaissance with the aim of a new deployment of military facilities for various purposes and other infrastructure. The flow of information goes to the Russian Federation and to the Crimea. And then an enemy reconnaissance ship appears in the Kerch Strait .. This is just an accident wassat
        2. Yurban
          Yurban April 15 2014 14: 51
          0
          Yes, it seems to me that, in advance of this, prepared.
        3. nikcris
          nikcris April 15 2014 16: 04
          +1
          Dislocations WHEREOF merged? Your Strategic Rocket Forces? crying
      4. Yurban
        Yurban April 15 2014 14: 48
        +1
        I don’t think so, it seems to me ready for this, as they can only throw poop along themselves.
  4. FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX April 15 2014 12: 36
    +15
    Warehouse then where trapped ???

    If only the Americans didn’t arrange some kind of provocation with their pelvis, as they know how. They’ll drown their bucket of bolts now, and then they say Russia attacked.
    1. joum
      joum April 15 2014 12: 59
      +4
      Yes, not his own, but the custodian. For that they brought him along
      1. smart Fox
        smart Fox April 15 2014 13: 49
        +2
        The entire Ukrainian Black Sea Fleet is there for flooding. Let them drown it, they will conduct live firing in one
    2. Little Muck
      Little Muck April 15 2014 13: 03
      +4
      Well then, it’s World War III right away. stop
      No just ponte. Cheap show in support of the junta, and she already s.ret further than she sees. laughing
    3. BLACK-SHARK-64
      BLACK-SHARK-64 April 15 2014 13: 15
      +1
      The custodians sailed frogs to catch ... and eat .. otherwise they ate all of them ...
    4. nikcris
      nikcris April 15 2014 16: 06
      +1
      Where and where they have fallen ... In Sivash, the frog is not measured, according to Paris rumors.
  5. Border guard
    Border guard April 15 2014 12: 37
    +4
    The day before yesterday, on Vesti.UA radio, three warships of France, currently in the Black Sea, were reported.
    1. GSH-18
      GSH-18 April 15 2014 13: 14
      +4
      Quote: Border Guard
      The day before yesterday, on Vesti.UA radio, three warships of France, currently in the Black Sea, were reported.

      Vesti.UA forgot to report about 82 Russian warships with the home port of Sevastopol!
  6. Wiruz
    Wiruz April 15 2014 12: 38
    +9
    At one time, the aircraft carrier Kitty Hawk was raped by Russian fighters in the same way (Su-27 and Su-24) like. And then, you know, the destroyer.
  7. AleksPol
    AleksPol April 15 2014 12: 39
    +7
    Still a couple of periscopes to light up for complete happiness. So as not to forget that they are visiting.
    1. tundra
      tundra April 15 2014 13: 05
      +4
      So that they do not forget that they are visiting .////// And that they are not welcome here! angry
      1. Alex 241
        Alex 241 April 15 2014 15: 03
        +7
        Quote: tundra
        So that they do not forget that they are visiting .////// And that they are not welcome here!
        1. delfinN
          delfinN April 15 2014 16: 37
          +4
          They have Hollywood show-offs in the first place, in real life everything is much more prosaic.
  8. Bobxnumx
    Bobxnumx April 15 2014 12: 39
    +3
    Well, it looks like our aircraft "provoking" these ships in the air over the Black Sea is also no coincidence.
  9. Turkir
    Turkir April 15 2014 12: 39
    +11
    One chicken egg precisely launched in the American-French sailor in Odessa is stronger than one rocket.
  10. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil April 15 2014 12: 41
    +5
    I'm tired of it even as much as possible, it is clear that no one was afraid.
    1. razv35
      razv35 April 15 2014 12: 45
      +4
      I did not understand the meaning, but the picture is amusing)))
      1. Standard Oil
        Standard Oil April 15 2014 12: 58
        +1
        And what's not clear? The US shows us its "power".
  11. vch62388
    vch62388 April 15 2014 12: 42
    +6
    This is a simple flag demonstration. The practical benefit of these ships is zero (except for the reconnaissance ship - that Crimea is listening). If something happens, they will be neutralized quickly enough.
    1. from punk
      from punk April 15 2014 12: 44
      +2
      Quote: vch62388
      This is a simple flag demonstration. The practical benefit of these ships is zero (except for the reconnaissance ship - that Crimea is listening). If something happens, they will be neutralized quickly enough.

      and these ships still need to be accepted in Romania, they must be spent denyuzhku as a full-fledged partner of NATO. but oh dear money it is a pity !!! but you have to pay for a star-striped mind of adherence to values
    2. joum
      joum April 15 2014 13: 01
      +1
      I think that Crimea is in the know and imagine what they heard there))
      1. smart Fox
        smart Fox April 15 2014 13: 51
        +1
        on this occasion, the entire Russian mat was translated into French.
  12. pensioner
    pensioner April 15 2014 12: 43
    +10
    what I wish the past war reminded me of itself somehow. Well, for example, in the form of a sudden and very successful repeat surfaced German naval mine ...
    1. GSH-18
      GSH-18 April 15 2014 13: 20
      +6
      Quote: retired
      what Would the past war remind of itself somehow. Well, for example, in the form of a suddenly and very successfully feel the surfaced German naval mine ...

      lol a tub of the newest destroyer Arly Burke (Donald Cook) an old German naval mine - this is the number!
      And how symbolic! lol
      1. shuhartred
        shuhartred April 15 2014 15: 06
        +3
        Quote: GSH-18
        a tub of the newest destroyer Arly Burke (Donald Cook) an old German naval mine - this is the number!
        And how symbolic!

        And all the claims to the Germans. Finally tin.
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    3. Sagittarius
      Sagittarius April 15 2014 14: 56
      +1
      I am for"!
  13. Manager
    Manager April 15 2014 12: 43
    +6
    In Odessa, I feel they will be received as "great guests."
    1. Little Muck
      Little Muck April 15 2014 13: 24
      +5
      Or maybe they are sailing to go over to the side of Russia with a dowry? laughing
      We need to look at the flags, otherwise it may already be St. Andrew's. lol
    2. delfinN
      delfinN April 15 2014 16: 42
      0
      And the scalps will give 27 evaders. Do not carry them back across the ocean.
  14. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 15 2014 12: 44
    +6
    A cheap trick of mattress mats and slime paddles. It’s not enough spirit to approach our shores, so to show the language from afar, here we are how daring, we can fearlessly show the language to Russia. As soon as we show the teeth, so they immediately wash off, this is the principle of punks.
    1. 78bor1973
      78bor1973 April 15 2014 15: 12
      +1
      Do not swim, they have 21 days in stock, but in a week they will have to replenish their reserves, they are shedding!
  15. fedor13
    fedor13 April 15 2014 12: 46
    +2
    Quote: Petr1
    And su-24 already, 12 pushed Americans a whole time, they had no choice but to state their sincere concern !!

    on the membrane of fikal tanks on the ship
  16. gladysheff2010
    gladysheff2010 April 15 2014 12: 46
    +4
    It may be out of place, but it seems the French have gold assets in the United States and are worried about their fate.
    1. smart Fox
      smart Fox April 15 2014 13: 54
      +3
      they do not have gold in the states, De Gaulle at one time demanded that America return the gold.
      I think the French are interested in either the number of frogs, or the number of gay mattresses, oh sailors
      1. Shaki's memory
        Shaki's memory April 15 2014 23: 44
        0
        To be honest, I saw the "LOVE" of French sailors to amers .. So they beat that it was a pity for the Yankees .. They have a "big blunder" from De Gaulle They only love the Anglo-Saxons cooler than the Yankees ... In the Netherlands ... So if I think that the French will first sink the Yankees and then figure out where to shoot
  17. AleksPol
    AleksPol April 15 2014 12: 47
    +5
    Quote: Petr1
    And su-24 already, 12 pushed Americans a whole time, they had no choice but to state their sincere concern !!

    What the hidden camera shoots them wink
  18. nika08
    nika08 April 15 2014 12: 50
    +7
    How these Americans got it !! When is their supervolcano already crashing ???
    1. Alexey M
      Alexey M April 15 2014 12: 54
      +5
      One of these days or sooner. Read those "Steel and Ashes" trilogy by Vadim Lvov please yourself.
    2. Registrar
      Registrar April 15 2014 14: 56
      +2
      No need to say! Got it!
      Yellowstone, EXIT!
  19. fedor13
    fedor13 April 15 2014 12: 54
    +9
    Now in the news, Kiev’s not legitimate authorities have reported that it is not possible to dialogue with the illegitimate authorities of Donbas due to their illegitimacy. In bent.
    1. Nekarmadlen
      Nekarmadlen April 15 2014 17: 01
      +3
      Quote: fedor13
      Now in the news, Kiev’s not legitimate authorities have reported that it is not possible to dialogue with the illegitimate authorities of Donbas due to their illegitimacy. In bent.

      In general, I have a suspicion that the words "legitimacy", "referendum", "plebiscite" entered the dictionary of a Ukrainian Svidomo for a couple of months. Moreover, many do not understand the direct meaning of these words.
  20. sergej30003
    sergej30003 April 15 2014 12: 54
    +2
    and where do they climb?
  21. Predator
    Predator April 15 2014 12: 55
    +1
    Let Romania hang around, we’re doing business! We have extra bucks, so let them spend it, we don’t feel sorry for it. And we are good, let the aircraft have fun!
  22. polly
    polly April 15 2014 12: 56
    +1
    Yes, time is running out, but the Americans do not change their methods. XXI century, gentlemen, come up with something new.
    You are behind the times: few are afraid of you and even fewer who respect. Only fools for the promised virtual billions.
  23. mamont5
    mamont5 April 15 2014 12: 56
    +2
    There is no danger, but they have nothing to do here either. And also in our Odessa to hang around. Get out mongrel!
  24. serega.fedotov
    serega.fedotov April 15 2014 13: 00
    +5
    Let's see if the Americans have enough gunpowder to enter the port of Odessa!
    1. R-118bm3
      R-118bm3 April 15 2014 13: 16
      +2
      The port is unlikely. They will stand up at the raid and will be "present".
      1. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre April 15 2014 16: 23
        +6
        That would be moored, and there, quietly welded them to the bottom a couple of anchor chains. The second end to the pier. Yes, or at least to the same anchors.
        wassat
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak April 15 2014 16: 35
          +1
          and there, quietly welded them to the bottom a couple of anchor chains. The second end to the pier. Yes, or at least to the same anchors.

          And you know a lot about guerrilla operations at sea. Taking off my hat. hi laughing
        2. serega.fedotov
          serega.fedotov April 15 2014 17: 38
          +1
          Quote: abrakadabre
          That would be moored, and there, quietly welded them to the bottom a couple of anchor chains. The second end to the pier. Yes, or at least to the same anchors.
          wassat

          Yes, and millet crowd spalky-Yankees go, go, And from the sea the old galosh -Yanki get out the atoms ram! And the cameras are MORE !!!!!
  25. andj61
    andj61 April 15 2014 13: 10
    +2
    This is military aid and support for the "independent", well, like, scare us. Only such a factor leads to the opposite effect - we are not afraid, do not express concern, but discuss how to sink, sell or convert this trough into a brothel.
  26. dr.Bo
    dr.Bo April 15 2014 13: 12
    +2
    I really hope that the events in Ukraine will revolutionize the global balance of forces towards our country !!! Although this is utopia.
    1. Tra-ta-ta
      Tra-ta-ta April 15 2014 14: 01
      +5
      It would have turned very quickly if Yarosh had thought better of it and would have pulled with his fighters to Warsaw or to Vilnius-Riga ...
  27. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec April 15 2014 13: 13
    +1
    And it is so clear that even if an aircraft carrier enters with a bunch of cover ships, it will just be a pile of scrap metal that will specifically trash the bottom of the Black Sea.
    1. mamont5
      mamont5 April 15 2014 13: 58
      +3
      Quote: dchegrinec
      And it is so clear that even if an aircraft carrier enters with a bunch of cover ships, it will just be a pile of scrap metal that will specifically trash the bottom of the Black Sea.


      Well, an Ameri aircraft carrier cannot be entered into the Black Sea (a ban for a specific class of ships of non-Black Sea powers). And that they’ll fall to the bottom, so let them lie down, they don’t ask for food or drink, maybe when they go to metal. In the Black Sea, at a depth, everything is well preserved; there, below 150-200 m, solid hydrogen sulfide is a dead zone.
  28. upasika1918
    upasika1918 April 15 2014 13: 19
    +7
    Idea praised UFO? For a view they could fly. It seems the aliens have requested a lot of money. Amerians themselves boasted that they were in conspiracy.
    1. Standard Oil
      Standard Oil April 15 2014 13: 23
      +14
      Here is our answer to aliens:
  29. konvalval
    konvalval April 15 2014 13: 20
    +2
    Bastards distract from lawlessness in Ukraine, lull the vigilance of the world community.
  30. fedor13
    fedor13 April 15 2014 13: 21
    +2
    Quote: dchegrinec
    And it is so clear that even if an aircraft carrier enters with a bunch of cover ships, it will just be a pile of scrap metal that will specifically trash the bottom of the Black Sea.

    If not far from the Crimea, so great advertising for diving. The resort should have a twist, but here is such a sweet.
  31. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa April 15 2014 13: 22
    +2
    Actually, the core of the NATO ekadra is being formed. Under the terms of the agreement, one non-Black Sea country can introduce a certain number of ships of a certain displacement, but the number of countries is not specified. Therefore, even two ships from each NATO country with a normal fleet are 10-15 ships + a Turkish fleet with 10 submarines, a powerful connection is obtained. They will cover Ukraine from the sea.
    1. fduch
      fduch April 15 2014 13: 42
      +6
      and then, we have nowhere else to go to Ukraine, except from the sea laughing
    2. Andrey Ulyanovsky
      Andrey Ulyanovsky April 15 2014 14: 17
      +1
      And what is there to cover? Obviously, there will not be a large-scale military operation against the people of the Southeast, certainly, by the forces of the Armed Forces of Independence. Covering the deployment of NATO forces in the South-East is the process of months with the logistical slowness of Ukraine + the threat of a military conflict with Russia + non-participation in such a threat of the most effective forces of Germany, France (a sailing boat on a walk does not count), etc. according to the list + political misunderstandings within the USA, etc. The article is correct - clanging with iron in the safest and cheapest way.
      1. chunga-changa
        chunga-changa April 15 2014 20: 42
        0
        This is what we think, and the military must assume the worst and act accordingly.
        For example, a squadron can repulse the landing in Odessa, or cover the landing in Sevastopol. Or carry out air defense of a rather large region. Or on duty as missile defense in the event of a nuclear war, in general, it’s not just that they gather there. If you think that there will be no nuclear war, then I repeat, the military MUST assume the worst to act accordingly.
  32. aleks 62
    aleks 62 April 15 2014 13: 24
    +3
    Quote: vch62388
    This is a simple flag demonstration. The practical benefit of these ships is zero (except for the reconnaissance ship - that Crimea is listening). If something happens, they will be neutralized quickly enough.

    .... But they didn’t listen to Schaub — to announce the coastal defense exercises with the practical firing of anti-ship missiles at the decommissioned pelvis (it is advisable to place them closer to them) ....
  33. lukich1958
    lukich1958 April 15 2014 13: 29
    +1
    If they don’t have any brains at all, they will come forward ... and, I think, they will do it in the full program as always!
  34. individual
    individual April 15 2014 13: 29
    +2
    America suffers a complete failure in diplomacy in Ukraine.
    Now they start "gunboat diplomacy" forgetting that it's time to escape from Afgan with his tail between his legs and holding his tattered pants.
  35. Tavrica
    Tavrica April 15 2014 13: 33
    +3
    Meanwhile, "The GLONASS satellites malfunctioned" On Tuesday night, eight satellites of the GLONASS system were simultaneously out of order for half an hour, the Information and Analytical Center of Roscosmos reported. According to the daily monitoring of the GLONASS system, published on the center's website, a few minutes before 15 am on April 747, spacecraft 743, 717, 737, 738, 720, 732, 735 and XNUMX showed a sign of "unwell" in their ephemeris. This state persisted for half an hour.

    Someone wants to hear the comments of professionals.
    1. Com T-64a
      Com T-64a April 15 2014 13: 52
      +3
      Here ss..ki! It is necessary according to their destroyer barrels with gov..nom bomb for it!
  36. Kibl
    Kibl April 15 2014 13: 46
    +3
    Don’t hi! Let’s crawl! Since World War II, the Americans themselves have proved that the most effective weapon against the navy is the air fleet. Well, after the war, the miracle of missile weapons appeared!
  37. JonnyT
    JonnyT April 15 2014 13: 49
    +2
    well that's it ... now the maydaunas are blown out of importance and stamp the demotivators saying that all america is with them
  38. Deadmen
    Deadmen April 15 2014 13: 52
    +3
    Julia, come to your senses, your carriage is already being taken away by a tow truck
    1. Serg 122
      Serg 122 April 15 2014 17: 47
      +1
      Julia, come to your senses, your carriage is already being taken away by a tow truck
      Already taken away ... No.
  39. Tra-ta-ta
    Tra-ta-ta April 15 2014 13: 54
    +1
    On the basis of the aircraft, modifications to the scout and jammer were created. Su-24M / MP / MP / M2 are equipped with a refueling system in the air.
    Here, along the way, they also demonstrated something .. and maybe Cook will hang in the port to replace electronic equipment ..
  40. aleks 62
    aleks 62 April 15 2014 13: 56
    +2
    Quote: jarome
    It seems to me that amers have technologies for attacks in space ... I wonder if we have anything to make the satellites of an exceptional nation with, leaving them blind? Maybe we are developing? Although the nasa budget is probably larger than the Russian budget

    .... Yes ... There was an article recently on "Krasukha" (electronic warfare system of generation 4+), and even when adjusting at the plant, the effect on satellites was noted, although the ground electronic warfare system ... This is such a "side" effect. ...
    1. Little Muck
      Little Muck April 15 2014 14: 44
      +1
      Recently, an attack on our communications satellite was carried out by Ukraine.
      And ours were warned (official statement) that we need to think very carefully about our fate before we mischief.
      1. Deadmen
        Deadmen April 15 2014 18: 06
        0
        you do not have information on their companions?
  41. Soviet_Union
    Soviet_Union April 15 2014 13: 59
    +1
    Quote: Genry
    the eye does not obey, as if artificial.

    Also noticed. Mows slightly. And no braids. Maybe this is not Julia? wassat
  42. ken
    ken April 15 2014 14: 02
    +4
    The grouping of NATO ships poses no serious danger to the Russian Federation. It can be assumed that this is one of the US attempts to save face.
    1. koshh
      koshh April 15 2014 15: 45
      +1
      "NATO ships in the Black Sea - an attempt to save face in front of the Ukrainian wards"
      Better save your zhpu
  43. aleks 62
    aleks 62 April 15 2014 14: 04
    +8
    Quote: Tra-ta-ta
    On the basis of the aircraft, modifications to the scout and jammer were created. Su-24M / MP / MP / M2 are equipped with a refueling system in the air.
    Here, along the way, they also demonstrated something .. and maybe Cook will hang in the port to replace electronic equipment ..

    .... I think the scout just took pictures from different angles and took maps of the electronic magnetic fields for further processing and entering signs of the target into the RCC computer systems ....
  44. 1536
    1536 April 15 2014 14: 24
    +2
    I remembered in connection with the entry into the Black Sea of ​​the destroyer "Donald Cook" the famous song of V. Vysotsky "One scientific riddle, or why the aborigines ate Cook."

    "Do not grab the waist of others,
    Escaped from the hands of his girlfriends.
    Remember how to the shores of Australia,
    The late Cook was sailing.

    Like in a circle, sitting under azaleas,
    Eat from dawn to dawn
    Spruce in this sunny Australia
    Friend to friend, evil savages.

    But why did the Aborigines ate Cook?
    For which - it is not clear - science is silent.
    It seems to me a very simple thing:
    They wanted to eat - and ate Cook.

    There is an option that their leader is a big beech tree, -
    Shouted that a very tasty cook on the ship Cook.
    The error came out - that's what science is silent, -
    They wanted to cook, and ate Cook.

    And there was no trick or trick at all,
    Entered without knocking, almost without sound,
    Launched a bamboo club in action -
    Bitch! - right in the crown - and no Cook.

    But there is, however, another assumption,
    That Cook was eaten out of great respect.
    That the sorcerer incited everyone - a sly and evil man:
    - Atu guys! grab the cook!

    Who will eat it without salt and without onions,
    He will be strong, courageous, kind, like Cook! -
    Someone’s arm caught a stone -
    Threw, the viper, and no Cook.

    And savages now wring their hands
    Spears break, bows break,
    They burned and threw batons from bamboo, -
    Are worried that they ate Cook. "

    Does this destroyer bear the name of that Cook, about which it was sung in songs:
  45. 111 soldier
    111 soldier April 15 2014 14: 45
    +4
    send, don’t send ships, everyone knows that you are Mr. But !! reputation is hard to restore!
  46. patriot123
    patriot123 April 15 2014 14: 52
    +4
    the ships are good of course, but they’re unlikely to enter into a mess if anything !! otherwise they will have to become a coral pile at the bottom !! Russia has many opportunities for this!
  47. Coffee_time
    Coffee_time April 15 2014 14: 52
    +3
    Quote: Petr1
    And su-24 already, 12 pushed Americans a whole time, they had no choice but to state their sincere concern !!

    What is the difference between sincere and deep concern?
  48. Coffee_time
    Coffee_time April 15 2014 14: 55
    0
    We had the latest American trophies in Georgia, and in Ukraine the super duper Aegis will be a trophy ship
  49. mackonya
    mackonya April 15 2014 14: 58
    0
    And the story in general is such a thing, periodically repeated in different geographical places.
    1. Roman 1977
      Roman 1977 April 15 2014 15: 08
      +7
      Cheap mattresses, according to the principle:

      For our sworn friends, we brought a lot of "tasty"
      Main SCRC "Bastion"

      However, it goes in addition to the 16 P-1000 "Vulkan" on the "Moskva" GRK + 8 X-35 "Uran" with the "Smetlivy" + 12 on the P-120 with the MRK pr. 1234 + 16 Mosquitoes with the MRK pr . 1239 + 16 "Mosquitoes" with RCA pr. 1241), taking into account the repaired RCA R-71 (4 P-15M) -72. Thus, the Black Sea Fleet is capable of destroying any fleet in the Black Sea except the Turkish one with one missile salvo, and inflicting losses on the latter.

      For those who are smaller: SCRC "Bal"

      Well, for their "spicy dishes", for example, "axes" -C-300 and "Shell C1"



      However, they say there is a S-400 in the Crimea, and this is not counting aviation.
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