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Chinese copy of the air defense system "Tor"

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A few days ago, Chinese television in a report from the anti-aircraft missile unit of the military anti-aircraft defense of the 41 Army PLA for the first time officially showed a Chinese copy of the Tor system, known as HQ-17.


From the immediately striking differences of the Chinese combat vehicle, a completely different target detection radar can be noted, very similar to the HQ-7B of the latest modification of the HQ-1B SAM system, the chassis is easiest to distinguish by rectangular headlights (they are round at Tor-MXNUMX).

Screenshots from the site of the Chinese news agency Xinhua.


For comparison, the combat vehicle 9А331-1 LAW "Tor-M1" PLA, all from Russia to China in 1997-2001. 35 was delivered by Tor-M1


Target radar detection system HQ-7B
Chinese copy of the air defense system "Tor"








One of the earlier photos of the combat vehicle chassis
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  1. serega.fedotov
    serega.fedotov April 14 2014 13: 12
    +6
    Everything is clear: the Chinese printer is copying with defects! bully
    1. Very old
      Very old April 14 2014 13: 19
      +2
      FE on them.
      News: "YARS" has been tested, YARS is in action!

      Read news about YaRS at RIA
    2. Civil
      Civil April 14 2014 13: 22
      +1
      Already disassembled on another resource, it seems like the current antenna is different
  2. sergey72
    sergey72 April 14 2014 13: 12
    +2
    Oh, SOMETHING I am delayed, lao! Is their fate awaited by the recent non-firing air defense systems?
    1. mirag2
      mirag2 April 14 2014 13: 19
      +2
      Perhaps for the sake of reorienting our economy to the East, it’s necessary with the Chinese how to share military technology ...
      Here is the north of Korea, and indeed all of Korea previously gravitated toward Russia. Yes, and in general it is difficult to expect deception from Koreans (I worked with them a lot and tightly before).
      1. Associate Professor
        Associate Professor April 14 2014 13: 21
        +1
        Quote: mirag2
        Perhaps for the sake of reorienting our economy to the East, it’s necessary with the Chinese how to share military technology ...

        Reorientation in our common interests
  3. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam April 14 2014 13: 13
    +5
    Took a course and do not turn off. If you think about it, how much money does the state invest in the development of ALL industries. They copy military equipment, and aircraft, and military aircraft, and civilian cars ... The Chinese are well done. This is what it means to have an excess resource. In the case of the Chinese, a human resource. There is no own oil, but the dough is unmeasured.

    1. nikcris
      nikcris April 14 2014 13: 21
      +1
      They have oil - more than 200 million tons of annual production.
      1. Mainbeam
        Mainbeam April 14 2014 13: 44
        0
        I agree, put it wrong.
        Let's just say that oil for China is not an excess resource on which you can earn
        .
    2. AlNikolaich
      AlNikolaich April 14 2014 13: 23
      +1
      Greetings! Guys, I can’t say anything about the copy of TOR ...
      However, a copy of the Chinese F-35 flies! Unlike the original ...
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      2. Mainbeam
        Mainbeam April 15 2014 10: 20
        0
        Better Compare with F-22
  4. Figvam
    Figvam April 14 2014 13: 13
    0
    Well done, copywriting as soon as possible !!
    Honor and praise to Chinese copiers.

    What to be proud of?
  5. a52333
    a52333 April 14 2014 13: 13
    +1
    Copywriters waved. Like friends, but no conscience. They also ask for granites to sell.
    1. Aleksandr12
      Aleksandr12 April 14 2014 13: 27
      0
      Donut hole for them, not "Granita"
  6. Petr1
    Petr1 April 14 2014 13: 14
    +1
    When I read, ours made a car very similar to a Mercedes Mercedes?
  7. k19
    k19 April 14 2014 13: 15
    0
    Here are the bastards. Now they will start selling at a low price.
    1. NIVH
      NIVH April 14 2014 13: 51
      0
      Cheap goods sell cheap goods ...
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  8. Humpty
    Humpty April 14 2014 13: 18
    +1
    Adidos in one word.
  9. VADEL
    VADEL April 14 2014 13: 18
    +3
    At first they accumulated themselves, now they copy everything in the world. Well done. smile
  10. JoylyRoger
    JoylyRoger April 14 2014 13: 18
    +1
    Yes, they just have a huge 3D printer, and they print, everything that they can reach
  11. Igor75
    Igor75 April 14 2014 13: 23
    0
    Iron is easy to copy, but the electronic stuffing, and most importantly the control algorithm, I hope they did not succeed. Once they tried to copy the S-300, but their missiles did not fly beyond 75 km.
  12. maestro123
    maestro123 April 14 2014 13: 25
    +5
    Only turn down the sound.

  13. AleksentsevDS
    AleksentsevDS April 14 2014 13: 26
    0
    Though they’ve come up with something of their own, otherwise their campaign has such a tradition of copying something laughing
  14. Per se.
    Per se. April 14 2014 13: 27
    +1
    Russian President Vladimir Putin agreed in principle to sell the S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems to China, the Kommersant newspaper writes, citing a source close to the Kremlin. At the same time, Alexander Fomin, director of the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation, confirmed that negotiations are currently underway for the supply of complexes to China. The decision to sell the complexes was made at the beginning of the 2014 year.



    Negotiations with China concern the number of complexes and their cost. At the same time, even if a firm contract is signed in the near future, Beijing will be able to receive new C-400 no earlier than 2016 of the year. An earlier supply of arms to China is not possible, since the delivery of most of the C-400 ordered by the Russian Ministry of Defense as part of the current state arms program should first take place, Lenta.ru reports.

    The parties are currently discussing the possibility of supplying China with two to four S-400 divisions, each of which includes eight launchers.

    Thanks to the acquisition of C-400 complexes, China will be able to control airspace not only over its territory, but also over Taiwan and the Japanese
    I wonder if someone else sells the most modern technology to our yellow-faced brothers, or is this just our prerogative? We'll have to wait for new Chinese "masterpieces" for "restoration" and talented copying.
    1. Vita_vko
      Vita_vko April 14 2014 16: 53
      +1
      It is high time to start negotiations with China on the creation of a missile defense system within the SCO.
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  16. Smiles to you
    Smiles to you April 14 2014 13: 29
    0
    Already, I am not surprised by similar news from the Middle Kingdom. It looks like the whole defense industry is imprisoned for Copyright ...
  17. Ev58
    Ev58 April 14 2014 13: 30
    +3
    In general, the Chinese are a fairly hardworking and organized nation. They are able to work 12 hours a day, perfectly perform the assigned work, repeat other brands and technical solutions, but nothing new, advanced, giving the right to say that they are at the peak of scientific and technological progress is impossible. Once again I take off my hat to their perseverance, patience, hard work, but in addition to all this, ingenuity of the mind, non-standard thinking, the ability to make a critical decision and not be afraid to be responsible for it, to be simply a creative person are required. Are there really no creative people in China? There is. But their potential, limited by mentality and all that is called in one word "East", does not give them the opportunity to do what other nations are capable of. Each nation has its own characteristics and potential. Talking about how bad everyone is, except for the Russians, is a path leading to a dead end, since whatever the capabilities of the nation, they cannot be neglected.
    1. Vita_vko
      Vita_vko April 14 2014 16: 59
      0
      Besides hard work, China has significant advantages in the fight against corruption. We also catch corrupt officials sometimes, but no one thinks about what gigantic damage they managed to inflict for their "work activities" and who covered them all this time and pulled them into power. ???
      But it’s time to grow wiser, this 5th column is the most dangerous and does more damage than any WMD.
  18. Dragon-y
    Dragon-y April 14 2014 13: 35
    0
    "An earlier version of the chassis" - a copy of the chassis from "KUB-4".
  19. individual
    individual April 14 2014 13: 39
    +2
    China is a master of fakes.
    In the 80s, the son bought a two-cell "Panasonic", he worked for a month and when analyzing the purchase-marriage found that it was a Chinese self-propelled gun called "Panasonix".
    Made-in-China mows under a well-known brand, replacing the last letter and legally no piracy. am
  20. VADEL
    VADEL April 14 2014 14: 06
    +2
    Quote: individ
    Made-in-China mows under a well-known brand, replacing the last letter and legally no piracy.

    These are little things. I heard. that they built a small factory near some village. The village was named USA and .... the goods went from the factory "MADE IN USA" laughing And the Americans wassat
  21. Sledgehammer
    Sledgehammer April 14 2014 14: 55
    +1
    Well done Chinese, limited to just sticking their radar.
    1. Vita_vko
      Vita_vko April 14 2014 17: 06
      +1
      Quote: Sledgehammer
      stick their radar

      I doubt that this is their radar. Very similar to the truncated version of the French GM radar. The Chinese bought this technology from Thales 5 years ago. If there is a water cooling system AFAR, then this is definitely French technology.
  22. sv68
    sv68 April 14 2014 18: 13
    0
    these squandered in life let them start to work out their own better. freebies plis program
  23. nikkon09
    nikkon09 April 14 2014 18: 46
    0
    Will there be a Chinese copy of Kurchatov, Beria, Zhukov or Korolev?
  24. Oml
    Oml April 14 2014 19: 05
    0
    Let's hope they are rubber.
  25. Michael_59
    Michael_59 April 14 2014 19: 39
    0
    We need to give them Serdyukov and the old man from the "uhamatsa" for copying ...