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Do not seriously count on the stupidity of the enemy

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Recently, the Internet has been replete with articles on the revival of Russia and the fall of the US empire. Perhaps my article will be a little out of the trend, well, do not judge me. Fully supporting the revival of Great Russia and considering myself Russian as a matter of fact, all the same, I would venture to express an opinion different from the mainstream. We have two excellent proverbs well illustrating the main point of this article:

1. Don't say gop until you jump.

2. Do not share the skin of an unkilled bear.

So, what is it all about? The fact that in no case should not underestimate the enemy, let us take it as an axiom. Everyone knows that on the battlefield the best way to ambush the enemy is to imitate a retreat. The actions of the Americans and NATO are like panic at the moment, but let's assume for a moment that this is a game. It's not a secret that Rice, Power, Obama, Rassmunsen, Ashton and others are just parrots, broadcasting what they are told. Do you really believe that in the United States decisions are made by people who are poorly versed in geography and are prone to tantrums? Major decisions are made in a completely different place by people who are competent enough in matters of geopolitics. And do not expect that the degradation of education in the West has affected everyone. People who analyze the situation and make decisions receive a completely different education.

Personally, the situation with the pressure of Russia painfully reminds me of the pressure on Japan on the eve of Pearl Harbor. These measures are initially incapable of forcing Russia to change its position, but are clearly intended to provoke it into an armed conflict.

Over the years, a philistine in Russia has become accustomed to the idea that the presence of a nuclear weapons This is a guarantee of national security. In this connection, North Korea is constantly cited as an example. But only a person far from the army can think that North Korea is able to fully use nuclear weapons. South Korea’s NWO’s maximum will suffer South Korea, and nothing more. North Korea is more used by the United States as a scarecrow for Japan and South Korea, to emphasize their dependence on the United States, as well as to continuously escalate the situation in the Asia-Pacific Region to China. If the States wanted to seriously solve the problem of Korea, they would solve it according to the Libyan version. Moreover, in the light of new repressions after Kim Jong-un came to power, they should not even look for an excuse.

The second point is the widespread view that the States, trying to tear Ukraine away, did not take into account Russia's reaction. Are you seriously? After Russia behaved in a situation with Syria, the latest housewife could have foreseen such a reaction from Moscow to the situation in Ukraine, not to mention NATO military analysts.

The situation with Ukraine reminds me more of the provocation of Russia to the fighting. Given the preponderance of NATO in military power, it makes no sense for them to wait for Russia to strengthen its troops. The further, the less chance of defeating Russia in an armed conflict. Why wait for 2018 of the year when the modernization of the army is completed? It is better to provoke a conflict now, hooking it to the living. And what could be more important for Russia than Ukraine?

One and all analysts agree that time works against the West in every sense. What is the point and what to expect? Waiting for Russia's breakthrough in the Arctic, its departure from the petrodollar, the emergence of an ICBM in Cuba and Venezuela? Obviously, they are interested in the soonest confrontation with Russia, but still made up for the fight for human rights. And the role of meat in this slaughter is not allotted to Ukraine. The United States expects to push Europe with Russia, and will connect at the last stage, when both sides will be drained of blood. And it’s not even necessary to bring the situation to an exchange of nuclear strikes. After all, it is clear that the use of nuclear weapons is a gesture of despair before the complete destruction of the country. Before that, it is not necessary to bring serious economic damage and infrastructure damage enough to cast off Russia's revival for years and decades. And then you can sign the world ...

I really hope that my reasoning is only a flight of fancy, but I also hope that those who make decisions in the Russian army are far from the bloggers' childish enthusiasm and can adequately evaluate all possible scenarios and circumvent all the pitfalls of our "western partners." The biggest mistake a commander can make is to underestimate the enemy and take his cunning as weakness ...
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  1. Humen
    Humen April 14 2014 15: 34
    +63
    I hope our leaders are calculating the steps and consequences. Recently, too many Europe and the United States have yielded, which in itself is strange. Either they are really so weak, or they are preparing something. But it’s better to be prepared for the worst than bite your elbows later.
    1. zanoza
      zanoza April 14 2014 15: 50
      +21

      I agree with the author of the article (Grinev Sergey Nikolaevich). I also think so.

      Quote: Humen
      I hope our leaders are calculating the steps and consequences.

      I also hope for collective the mind of our leadership. Events show that our leadership is aware of today's dangers and acts adequately and reasonably.
      It is dangerous to give a slack, Western "jackals" (they are "partners") will tear apart.
      There are allies in counteracting American and European global expansion.

      Obliged to survive!
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 April 14 2014 16: 07
        +9
        Quote: zanoza
        And I also hope for the collective mind of our leadership. Events show that our leadership is aware of today's dangers and acts adequately and reasonably.

        They would have acted without looking back, the tanks would have stood in Kiev for a long time! Just that it would have given us, except for problems! And so we played a lead and Crimea became part of the Russian Federation! And there is no NATO base in Crimea and parity has been maintained so far!
        Maybe the author is right about the fact that Western politicians are not analysts, but they are representatives of their elites, and if the elites have degraded, then this is also a tendency for senior officials!
        1. Ataman
          Ataman April 14 2014 17: 03
          +20
          And I do not agree with the author of the article. As Napoleon used to say: "It is not necessary to explain it by malicious intent, what is explained by ordinary stupidity." The goal of America is to make a mess, as in Chechnya and Georgia, in order to just mess with at least or draw into a military conflict as much as possible. And watch the Russians kill each other. In the First World War, they said that England hated the Germans so much that she was ready to fight them to the last Russian soldier. And now America is ready to fight with Russia to the last Ukrainian, Georgian or Chechen. Only now is the education of American strategists, they could not turn a Russian person in Ukraine into dill. As he was Russian, he remained.
          1. anfil
            anfil April 14 2014 19: 45
            +3
            In the magazine "Around the world" for March 2008. this phrase is written a little differently: - in Russia they began to say with bitterness that "the allies are ready to fight to the last drop of the Russian soldier's blood"
          2. Rus2012
            Rus2012 April 14 2014 21: 14
            +1
            It’s better to provoke a conflict now by hooking on a living thing. And what could be more important for Russia than Ukraine?
            Quote: Ataman
            America's goal is to make a mess, to

            in general, everything is correct ...
            Only a mess where the Slav brothers beat their dishes in their own house, to the delight of the adversary.
            They brought this to-brothers of our Little Russians, with our full connivance, that now they do not heed the voice of reason?
          3. fedorovith
            fedorovith April 14 2014 21: 22
            0
            I agree very much, all this mold has climbed to the very "tomatoes", and now the turnip hurts .., how is it? tongue
          4. Mihaylo Tishayshiy
            Mihaylo Tishayshiy April 14 2014 22: 21
            +1
            Quote: Ataman
            As Napoleon used to say: "It is not necessary to explain it by malicious intent, what is explained by ordinary stupidity."

            We all know how Napoleon graduated; we did not study from Ukrainian textbooks. I completely agree with the author. Ancient eastern wisdom advises to prepare very seriously for a battle with an enemy, even if this opponent is a child. It is better to "overdo it" than "overdo it" so that Napoleon's words do not refer to us.
          5. Ratibor
            Ratibor April 16 2014 10: 26
            0
            Just not right now the education of American strategists, they could not turn a Russian person in Ukraine into dill. As he was Russian, he stayed.
            some could wassat
        2. Denis 60 rus
          Denis 60 rus April 14 2014 22: 32
          +2
          the elites may have degraded, but I doubt that they have degraded those for whom they work.
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      2. aktanir
        aktanir April 14 2014 16: 19
        +17
        It also seems to me that the Western political "tycoons", the Pentagon bosses are just waiting for Russia to get head over heels into the hole prepared for it - Ukraine, as 25 years ago the USSR got into another such trap - Afghanistan. The current move, when the self-defense forces of the southeastern regions of Hochlandia defend themselves on their own, is quite acceptable for us. We just need not to leave the brothers of the Slavs alone, let our intelligence, our weapons and our money help them. Moreover, this is not a waste, but an investment in their own security and stability at the borders. This will help us reunite in the future. The Russian special services need to be more active. Why are odious personalities like Yarosh still alive?
        1. I read the news
          I read the news April 14 2014 16: 46
          +6
          Because Yarosh is not the main threat.
        2. Kurkin
          Kurkin April 14 2014 18: 29
          +2
          Let this scarecrow live. He is needed just as a scarecrow.
        3. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 April 14 2014 20: 20
          +5
          And GDP is silent and silent. Silent and silent. SILENT AND SILENT! Here is something to attack !!!
        4. Nicanor
          Nicanor April 14 2014 21: 05
          +1
          But are Russian special services obliged to report to you (us) about their actions and plans?
        5. mikihc
          mikihc April 14 2014 22: 37
          +1
          Remove Yarosh another will appear. Our intelligence needs to drive wedges between them so that they squabble among themselves. And in the southeast there is more organization. Form the authorities. In general, as Ilyich taught.
        6. philip
          philip April 15 2014 04: 33
          0
          Yes, because special services are special services, and the less they know about them, the better their work.
      3. oblako
        oblako April 14 2014 16: 29
        +2
        On the whole, I agree, only in Europe they are not well educated either. And all NATO will not want to fight for US interests there. And this may mean the collapse of the bloc, this is in the first place. And then Europe has something to lose ... And it understands what it is doing. But of course you cannot underestimate. But the circumstances are such that having said "A" it is necessary to say "B" and I cannot imagine anything else. And there has never been such a thing in history. Nobody wants to lose face.
        1. Sigizbarn
          Sigizbarn April 14 2014 17: 20
          +3
          I don't think anyone will ask Europe. They have been on dry rations for the states for a long time. They will give a command and go. And the former countries of the Warsaw Pact will go first. Especially Poland and Romania. They have long been "in the rack".
          1. dmitriygorshkov
            dmitriygorshkov April 14 2014 18: 41
            +2
            Quote: Sigizbarn
            Especially Poland and Romania. They have long been "in the rack".

            And also the countries of sprats, but their stand is the fifth position, everyone understands this except them!
            1. Anisim1977
              Anisim1977 April 14 2014 21: 48
              +5
              The war between NATO and Russia on the territory of "Square is nonsense:
              1) Old Man blocks Poland.
              2) Romanians are just suckers.
              3) The entire territory of the "Nezalezhnaya" is tightly closed off from the territory of Russia and Belarus.
              But NATO is unable to fight without dominance at sea and air.
              Here is the opinion of the amateur.
          2. Wheel
            Wheel April 14 2014 21: 02
            +2
            Quote: Sigizbarn
            I don't think anyone will ask Europe. They have been on dry rations for the states for a long time. They will give a command and go. And the former countries of the Warsaw Pact will go first. Especially Poland and Romania. They have long been "in the rack".

            It is unlikely.
            Geyropeytsy, although they sing along to the Yusovtsy, will not engage in suicide.
            The troops of the European members cannot boast of such special readiness, as Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, and Mali have clearly shown.
          3. Alex Danilov
            Alex Danilov April 15 2014 22: 16
            0
            So what kind of degenerates do you need to be in Poland and Romania in order to commit suicide? Do you think they are suicides?
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      5. a52333
        a52333 April 14 2014 16: 47
        +7
        Thanks to the author for a gang of cold water, but I do not agree with him.
        If the states felt confident, they would send their troops to Syria (after the shelling) and to Libya to milk freebie oil. Something there is no zeal.
        And then on to, Nata will help Ukraine. Than? Let them help you in Afghanistan, Aniki warriors. At least 30 people go for cigarettes in Kabul.
        And do not speak to me for them.
        Europe. More precisely, who? There is the Bundeswehr more or less. Or maybe Estonia?
        No need for a night of a fairy tale about a granny!
        The last operation was Iraqi, but let me remind you that Baghdad "took" the golden donkey.
        1. Baloo
          Baloo April 14 2014 17: 46
          +14
          At stake is not just geopolitics, but also the future security of our descendants.
          Everywhere where merikashki appear with their crap, everywhere there is blood, the death of a civilian population, devastation.
          I once wondered why everything that starts on amer- subconsciously causes me a negative attitude. Then I realized, I can’t forget the chronicle of the Vietnam War: on the dirt road run small children without clothes and hair that are burnt from napalm, the skin hangs with rags from burn blisters all over the body. Pain, fear, despair ...
        2. nikcris
          nikcris April 14 2014 18: 45
          0
          Aniki do not go platooning for cigarettes in Afghanistan. You have beguiled them with someone. I even suspect with whom. They are sent everything that is required.
          1. Wheel
            Wheel April 14 2014 21: 04
            +2
            Quote: nikcris
            Aniki do not go platooning for cigarettes in Afghanistan. You have beguiled them with someone. I even suspect with whom. They are sent everything that is required.

            Walk, still walk. laughing
            1. a52333
              a52333 April 14 2014 21: 41
              0
              There was a film on the 24 documentary. They walk, Afghans are offended, for them to bargain as for us to breathe, and the cameras turn a campaign for cigarettes into a small military operation. Throws a bucks on the table and doesn’t even wait for the change, running to the base. Bribing field commanders, so as not to shoot.
              Shuravi fought better, as the Afghans say
            2. nikcris
              nikcris April 14 2014 23: 14
              0
              Che, they do not stick vodka? Miserable Anschluss.
        3. anfil
          anfil April 14 2014 20: 33
          +2
          Stupid people always rely on the fact that the enemy is obviously weak, that if he discovered his essence, it is easier to calculate. This is a huge misconception, an incorrect assessment of the enemy leads to disastrous results. This can be seen in the lessons of the Great Patriotic War, when the Germans thought they were more developed, and they would easily sweep away the unwashed Slavs, this is also noticeable in the lessons of Chechnya, when 30 people held a height that was stormed by several thousand people. This is also evident from the lessons of our life, when we lower a person a little, with the thought: “What can he do? He doesn’t have anyone serious behind his back, he won’t mourn anything, ”and then they got such a blow, and they thought:“ Damn, how did he do it? He’s nobody. ”
        4. cheega69
          cheega69 April 14 2014 23: 43
          0
          And who told you for the seizure of the territory, the land operation? So the question is not worth it. You can get far from Middle-earth and Turkey. Are there any means of interception, here is the question.
      6. cheega69
        cheega69 April 14 2014 23: 34
        0
        You can add to the article that the visit of the US destroyer to the Black Sea also lies in this scenario.
    2. sibiriak38
      sibiriak38 April 14 2014 16: 24
      +13
      The author is completely right. Do not underestimate the enemy. Including the measure of his calculating "madness".
      It’s good if they just want to exhaust Russia in a local conflict.
      And if, after watching post-apocalyptic films like "Mad Max", "The Postman" or "Eli's Book", the guys with super-large grandmothers decided to incite the world into a nuclear catastrophe, of course they themselves were well prepared.
      They will wait a year or two underground or on some island in the Pacific Ocean (or better, both). Then they will go to the liberated land (after all, all the billions of unnecessary Chinese, Indians, Ukrainians and Russians will die in radioactive hell) and they will take the whole world warm. There will remain a golden million rulers and a couple of tens of millions of half-slaves.
      How do you like this scenario? And after all, he is quite real, even in spite of all the seeming insanity. The level of any disaster depends on the height of the look at it: what seems like an apocalypse below - from the upper ranks of the world cinema seems like just a small problem.
      The degree to which our partners are “mad or calculating” is very difficult to calculate.
      1. Darn
        Darn April 14 2014 18: 33
        +1
        Hey.
        It’s good if they just want to exhaust Russia in a local conflict.

        And we have a large border, if along the entire border blazes? It will be difficult.
      2. dmitriygorshkov
        dmitriygorshkov April 14 2014 18: 53
        0
        Quote: sibiriak38
        The degree to which our partners are “mad or calculating” is very difficult to calculate.

        You have painted everything interestingly and visually. BUT.
        If a nuclear war starts seriously, it will NOT work out in a bunker on an island, the ball will either burn out or go out of orbit. They will probably calculate this.
        If it was possible to sit out somewhere, they would already have done it, rather than spending a ton of money on air defense.
        1. Darn
          Darn April 14 2014 19: 09
          +2
          It will NOT work out, the ball will either burn out or go out of orbit.

          A full-scale nuclear war is afraid of EVERYTHING.
      3. Darn
        Darn April 14 2014 18: 57
        0
        They will wait a year or two underground or on some island in the Pacific Ocean (or better, both).

        I think I can’t do it for a year. I wondered where it is better to winter the nuclear winter. It would not be bad in near-Earth orbit, but today it’s not realistic. Yes, and generally easier to survive, at the North Pole than in orbit or nearby planets. (Although it seems like someone assembled an expedition to Mars one way laughing .) It seems that harmful radioactive radiation absorbs hydrogen well. Then water should protect. So it’s better to hide under water. Moreover, if you don’t get out of the bomb shelter, it will be safer to move under water. Moreover, there are projects of underwater hotels in the internet. Maybe they built them somewhere. So they probably sit there.
      4. max702
        max702 April 14 2014 22: 58
        +1
        Ask when it will be possible to live in the Chernobyl area, and after all, not a year or two has passed ... after using all the toys accumulated by mankind, will the ball survive or crack a big question, but even if you apply 10% of the arsenal, then Chernobyl will seem like a heavenly place, life will generally shorten its existence, there is such a book by S. Tarmashev "Ancient" there are a lot of fantasies and outright delirium, BUT the nuclear arctic fox and its consequences are described very accurately and correctly.
    3. asar
      asar April 14 2014 17: 13
      +1
      If you want peace, get ready for war!
      1. bomg.77
        bomg.77 April 14 2014 17: 44
        +1
        Quote: asar
        If you want peace, get ready for war!
        The Minister of Defense of Sweden, said that citizens should stock up on water.
        And the Prime Minister of Switzerland said that it is necessary to prepare for war!
        They provoke us .... they all feel it!
        1. Lelek
          Lelek April 14 2014 18: 01
          +7
          In one word "PARABELLUM".
    4. the polar
      the polar April 14 2014 17: 41
      +13
      Quote: Humen
      I hope our leaders are calculating the steps and consequences. Recently, too many Europe and the United States have yielded, which in itself is strange. Either they are really so weak, or they are preparing something. But it’s better to be prepared for the worst than bite your elbows later.

      Neither the United States nor Europe is interested in a military confrontation with Russia. Two world wars have significantly undermined the human resource of Europe, which had to be replenished by Afro-Asians. In addition, a military conflict with Russia will inevitably develop into an exchange of nuclear strikes, after which Europe will practically disappear and little will remain of America. Therefore, for twenty years now there has been a hidden financial and economic war "to exhaust" Russia, and an information war, designed for internal destabilization and the subsequent disintegration of the Russian Federation. But in the financial and information war, Russia is in a difficult situation due to the corrupting and destructive corruption that has hit all levels of government and the ramified "fifth column", the main striking force of which is rooted in government circles. If you start to immediately burn out both "cancerous tumors" with a hot iron with a hot iron, Russia will not only withstand the confrontation with the West, but also put a farewell bouquet on its grave
    5. Nekarmadlen
      Nekarmadlen April 14 2014 18: 12
      +4
      Quote: Humen
      I hope our leaders are calculating the steps and consequences.


      That's why our tanks are not going to Kiev yet. You know that comrades ... For some reason, I’m very confident in our president, as my son says, I’m sorry, he’s stupid what he’s doing. Good luck to all of us! Everything will be fine!
    6. Mareman Vasilich
      Mareman Vasilich April 14 2014 18: 15
      +1
      The author of the article says that God will show and let God guide wisdom and will.
      1. Igor39
        Igor39 April 14 2014 18: 29
        0
        The enemy cannot be underestimated, but I think NATO is unlikely to want to fight with us, there will be not only war but also the energy blockade of Europe, and if you bomb the SA, the whole world will get a glimpse. Yes, and Europeans have no desire to die for the interests of the American establishment.
        1. Dimy4
          Dimy4 April 14 2014 18: 48
          0
          Thanks to the author for a gang of cold water, but I do not agree with him.

          I support. In general, the author is right to underestimate the enemy is very dangerous, but to portray from him a kind of playing ancient Greek god, who is known to be immortal, who has gone down from Olympus to play on the ground, is also not worth it. People sitting there are not stupid, able to think, cynical, but people.
    7. Predator
      Predator April 14 2014 19: 00
      0
      With regard to this issue, I think it has repeatedly lost in all respects. Yet before Syria. I do not think that they did not know about the preparation of the Maidan in Ukraine, the closest neighbors are always leading those who influence them. With such statements by our leadership, after Abkhazia, Crimea, everything should be calculated. And you are no longer those who will not take the risk of Sam. They understand that America is far away, and we are close, Russia and Europe will suffer, and they don’t need it at all!
    8. With Petrovsky
      With Petrovsky April 14 2014 20: 46
      0
      In fact, everything is obvious; there is nothing more to add to the article.
    9. Stalnov I.P.
      Stalnov I.P. April 14 2014 21: 34
      +3
      Yes, you need to keep your eyes open, be alert and very, very vigilant, just do not agree on some issues, the DPRK, the Libyan scenario will not work there, the losses of state aviation will be just big, and the territorial operation will fail, due to the enormous losses of personnel, and behind the DPRK, the PRC looms and that’s all, it’s just guttering, chatter and threat, sanctions, but no more, for example, Somalia, 235 marines died and the Congress immediately recalled the troops, across Russia, remember how many months they were preparing the operation in Iraq - 6 months, while the troops were deployed, prepared, coordinated, etc., it is clear how many times more troops are needed for Russia, there are still some European problems, territories below sea level and nuclear power plants, all this without the use of nuclear weapons, not I take chemical enterprises, etc. I think Europeans are not fools either, they understand the hidden position of the states, raking in the heat with the wrong hands. Yes, analysts work for them and for us.
    10. razved
      razved April 14 2014 23: 23
      0
      Plus komentu. I will add. If a certain author has thought of it, then TAM should be sure. At the same time, one should not lose sight of the variability of actions and their consequences.
  2. erased
    erased April 14 2014 15: 35
    +9
    Reasonable. But I also want to believe (which does not always work out) that the Russian authorities calculate the situation and work out decisions based on accurate data and analysis, but not otherwise. There is a big game, one of the stages we are going through. The bet in the game is life. And the existence of Russia as a state, a power, the Russian Motherland.
    In a word, all the garbage, the main thing is that the Sun warms, the Moon hangs and the rivers do not flow back.
  3. Turkir
    Turkir April 14 2014 15: 36
    +13
    Reasonable and convincing. It only remains to hope that our analysts also calculate all the options for possible scenarios. And the use of soft impact and solutions of the people of Ukraine expands these opportunities.
  4. industries_88
    industries_88 April 14 2014 15: 36
    +15
    Perhaps I also agree with the author. Flapping flags is great, of course, but you don’t need to lose your scent either. As soon as you relax the jackals will immediately attack from the back. We took these positions thanks to courage and clarity, now perseverance will be required.
    1. free
      free April 14 2014 15: 54
      +13
      perhaps the right article is only one thing, but if a full-scale conflict happens, we should simply be obliged to use it, why? if they, having destroyed our economy, throw us away decades ago, there may not be another chance, then let them die with us, and it’s a pity for the remains forever discourage the desire to fight with the Russians, we must clearly state our position, any military actions against us will entail a nuclear strike, Europe (meaning the population) is in a panic and, as a result, not enthusiastic about the actions of its government, America in Ah, we will laugh at last! FORWARD RUSSIA!
      1. Letun
        Letun April 14 2014 17: 24
        +2
        Yes, if you have to fight with NATO, then you won’t manage without nuclear weapons. And they will be the first to change it, because without nuclear weapons what the hell they can do with us. Russia is in every way bigger and stronger than Libya and Yugoslavia.
        The article is good, sobering, but the United States and Europe are now really not the same. Look at what's going on inside.
        1. nikcris
          nikcris April 14 2014 18: 51
          +1
          And what is going on inside them? Tell me what is terribleNEW? Terrible than in your yard.
      2. nikcris
        nikcris April 14 2014 18: 49
        0
        Do you have any kids? Not? Thank God!!!
  5. Keeper
    Keeper April 14 2014 15: 36
    +10
    This "game" is cooler than poker and chess!
    With every victory of Russia on the world stage, I catch myself thinking that we are starting to breathe deeply!
    Do not give offense !!!
    1. VladimirD
      VladimirD April 14 2014 16: 24
      +2
      This is not a game at all. In poker, chips are at stake, but here are human lives. Of course, we rejoice at our victories. Crimea, this is actually something! Neither ours, nor the Americans did not expect that events would develop so rapidly. The Americans will certainly draw a conclusion From what happened. I agree with the author of the article, and the Russian proverb can be slightly modernized: The best decoration for the "Castle in the Air" is the skin of a bear that has not been killed. And of course we will not let ourselves be offended.
  6. svetlomor
    svetlomor April 14 2014 15: 36
    +8
    Given NATO’s superiority in military power,
    Let's wait until winter and see who and what outweighs.
    1. vch62388
      vch62388 April 14 2014 17: 28
      +1
      Even if we fully join Ukraine before the winter, the Baltic states completely, and even Poland and Romania, we will still be economically weaker than the rest of Europe + North America. We must not get involved in the slaughter, but we should wait another 5 years.
      Or did you mean nuclear winter?)))
      1. Sigizbarn
        Sigizbarn April 14 2014 17: 38
        -1
        Even in 5 years, it will be extremely difficult to compare with the potential of Europe + USA.
        We need allies and alliances. Alternatively India
        1. Zaslavsky-S
          Zaslavsky-S April 14 2014 18: 06
          +11
          It is necessary to multiply! Do not drink beer, with vodka, sit in the kitchen and scold everyone and everything. And to work for the good of the family, play sports, love your people, and your homeland! Raise children in the spirit of the Slavs! And everyone should start with himself! Glory to the Family !!
          1. Baloo_bst
            Baloo_bst April 15 2014 00: 05
            0
            I completely agree. The most important victory is a victory over oneself.
        2. anfil
          anfil April 14 2014 23: 49
          0
          No need to panic, with a good leader everything will be fine
      2. Lelek
        Lelek April 14 2014 17: 58
        +4
        Baltic States, Poland, Romania with their debts, problems and phobias? God forbid. We have enough of our own. recourse
      3. dmitriygorshkov
        dmitriygorshkov April 14 2014 19: 07
        +3
        Quote: vch62388
        Even if before winter

        If we do the nonsense that you have listed, then we have a unique furry animal!
        Wow, the Baltic States, Romania, Poland to strengthen the connection!
        It's like putting a dozen bricks around your neck before bathing!
        1. vch62388
          vch62388 April 14 2014 22: 19
          0
          Actually, it was an attempt at sarcasm
  7. Cripple cross
    Cripple cross April 14 2014 15: 37
    +9
    Politics is a tough game of chess. The moves to the front are known only to the players themselves. The figures are not given to know this. We are only fans of one of the parties. The article is reasonable. But what will happen, we will never guess for certain.
  8. Wiruz
    Wiruz April 14 2014 15: 37
    +14
    Hmmm ...
    How well they lived before - they wanted to start a war - they unleashed. They openly declared that the war was for the sake of lands, resources, nat. interests and stuff. And now ... so much lies and hypocrisy for the sake of several days of hostilities
    1. Aldo
      Aldo April 14 2014 15: 49
      -3
      Do you want to say how unlimited they were, right?
      1. Wiruz
        Wiruz April 14 2014 15: 58
        +2
        Do you want to say how unlimited they were, right?

        But what, now not?
  9. svp67
    svp67 April 14 2014 15: 38
    +7
    It’s not a fantasy, it has long been clear that the West wants events like the "Crimean War" to develop and is preparing the "ground." In particular, articles began to appear comparing GDP and today's Russia with Nicholas 1 and then Russia ... We just need to act now very carefully and purposefully, implementing good information support, and pursuing a course to protect our financial structures. I look for weaknesses in the position of our opponents and lure other countries over to our side ...
    Yes, and rely on the stupidity of the enemy - this is not primarily to respect yourself ...
  10. sashppppp
    sashppppp April 14 2014 15: 38
    +8
    Article plus .. at 41m they also wanted to beat the enemy on its territory - everything turned out to be much more dramatic
  11. nikcris
    nikcris April 14 2014 15: 39
    -25%
    Mr. Grinev woke up? And remember the dream? About rockets in Venezuela (why not in Nicaragua). But he immediately fell out and said: "Over the years, the average person in Russia got used to the idea that the presence of nuclear weapons is a guarantee of the country's security." Yes, Mr. Grinev, this is precisely the guarantee. You can gradually start up the wall feverishly ...
    1. tolyasik0577
      tolyasik0577 April 14 2014 16: 33
      +3
      comrade is right, unfortunately nuclear weapons, the fact that we are now on duty is the only deterrent against aggressive and impudent behavior of America. it is she who needs all this madhouse that is going on in Ukraine. and our nuclear weapons are still capable of "Strike Back" at the enemy.
      1. nikcris
        nikcris April 14 2014 18: 57
        0
        Is Grinev about this paisal? It's kind of about "non-resistance ...". The fact that we are woodlice against the West. Or have you not moved in?
        This parish on rearmament by 2018 still pumped up. It is possible to rearm before 2018 and until 2025 - there is no justice in the world. recourse
      2. dalekiy
        dalekiy April 14 2014 19: 45
        +1
        By the way, the same Beria, Lavrenty Pavlovich, was responsible for creating the nuclear shield. Completed the task.
        1. nikcris
          nikcris April 14 2014 20: 05
          0
          And who is arguing? belay
  12. Vorodis_vA
    Vorodis_vA April 14 2014 15: 39
    +10
    this is one of the most popular versions, in my opinion there is a place to live. But not everything is so simple, now there is a big chance to put pressure on Europe until it gives a back one, and then we are in pluses. In my opinion, Europe began to soften, they are scared, their legs are shaking, they don’t know where the Bluff ends and the irrevocable showdown begins. Some EU countries have already shut up, no one forgot what war is, a real big war breathes a cadaverous smell into their necks.
    1. nikcris
      nikcris April 14 2014 15: 55
      0
      When a conflict erupted in the Falklands, the USSR then made a languid mine. We were like Argentina on the drum. Today, Ukraine has few people involved in the search for adventure.
  13. ZU-23
    ZU-23 April 14 2014 15: 40
    +2
    I very much agree, I also thought the other day that we can relax on the fact that the Americans are stupid, as they relaxed thinking that Russia was sintering and would no longer get out of its knees. We just need to go forward all our lives, despite the fact that who will be behind us by how many goals, considering when we still rise so much.
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  15. Flinky
    Flinky April 14 2014 15: 41
    +11
    Plus article. I think that ours, not working especially for the public, are calculating these options. That is why there are still no our troops in Ukraine.
  16. Terrible ensign
    Terrible ensign April 14 2014 15: 44
    +11
    A little cold water on hot heads ... That's right. Just do not forget that the decision-making center in Russia, most likely, is more interfaced with the General Staff of the General Staff, the Defense Ministry, the FSB and the Security Council under the President of the Russian Federation, rather than with a company conducted in the media, blogs, and various kinds of social networks. Thinking people are well aware of this situation. What is shown on TV and spoken on the radio is only a fraction of what is actually happening. And the conclusions of thinkers from the TV are only their conclusions. Reality is both more complex and diverse, as well as solutions to emerging problems. Therefore, one should not take everything exclusively in line with mass propaganda and patriotic euphoria from the processes of the annexation of Crimea and the begun federalization of southeastern Ukraine. The article put a plus.
  17. promt26
    promt26 April 14 2014 15: 46
    +1
    I do not agree with the author. The situation that is now developing in Ukraine, right now, can be called spontaneous. I do not think that ours right now does not work in Ukraine, but this is an attempt to at least somehow manage the process and promote state interests. American analysts are certainly pros, I do not argue. But such an energetic reaction of Russia was not calculated. I am sure that the West will lose outright in Ukraine!
    1. tolyasik0577
      tolyasik0577 April 14 2014 16: 39
      +1
      and to the west, Ukraine and in x .. not perly. she would have to feed herself. America is about the axis of evil pushed by the Europeans. Even the director of German or French intelligence does not come to Kiev. but the tsar arrives to be empty.
    2. dalekiy
      dalekiy April 14 2014 19: 59
      0
      "I am sure that the West will lose outright in Ukraine!"

      I would like to believe it. But we, it seems to me, have very little room for maneuver. They consistently press and the point is not in sanctions, but in the fact that they are forcing Russia to intervene and impose their "game". I really want the SE to separate from the Nazi pseudo-state, but Russia will not pull a few more areas purely economically. They will have to be raised from the ruins. This, apparently, is the West's trap - an analogue of the collapse in oil prices. As a Russian person, of course, I will be glad to join Russia, but there is also an economic aspect in this.
  18. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish April 14 2014 15: 46
    +4
    I agree with the author of the article only in the fact that there should not be a cap of upbeat mood ... And if you take a full look at the situation, then my opinion is formed from the response of the West to the actions of our country! But the reaction today is that the West is generally shocked by how the GDP works, and I strongly doubt that there is any hidden and insidious plan in the actions of the EU and the USA. More likely, they don’t know what to do!
  19. Freemason
    Freemason April 14 2014 15: 47
    +9
    Article plus. But there is one small "but"! History has taught us two main rules. If they start to beat us, we endure until we have enough patience, and then we give back so that they don't have time to wash the blood. The second lesson, "Whoever comes to us with a sword will die by the sword!" This phrase of Victory was said by our ancestor Alexander Nevsky.
    Yes, NATO is a strong and numerous enemy. But as many have said this is an army of consumers. They have few field operations specialists, we have more of them. + Do not forget the most important principle of conducting all combat operations of our troops as a whole. HOMELAND is behind us! We can lose on foreign territory, and then only because of the betrayal of the highest circles of command. But never on their own land! In addition, one should not forget the People of Russia are the people of the Russian Empire, the People of the USSR, this is in our genetics, to win even when it is not realistic. And now our propaganda is healthy, correct, slightly embellished but correct. God forbid war, it's scary ... But let those who start it against us be even more afraid. For if the people get up "on the warpath", then they will stop only after they have washed themselves with the blood of their offenders.
    So it was from time immemorial.
    1. nikcris
      nikcris April 14 2014 15: 59
      -2
      "They have few field operations specialists, we have more."

      What field activities are you going to conduct? Haymaking?
    2. tolyasik0577
      tolyasik0577 April 14 2014 16: 45
      0
      yeah, maybe they don’t have specialists in conducting military operations, and we don’t have all that good either. I remember how we behaved in Chechnya in the 95th, when boys died in packs due to the stupidity and shortsightedness of their generals. I hope that now we have at least restored the lost knowledge.
      1. Horly
        Horly April 14 2014 17: 05
        +3
        It would be more accurate to say about the first Chechen war - because of the betrayal of the then leaders, both political and military, especially among high-ranking officials. Well, the calculation of the Russian "maybe" also played an important role ...
    3. vch62388
      vch62388 April 14 2014 17: 43
      +2
      Quote: Yes, NATO is a strong and numerous adversary. But as many have said, this is an army of consumers.

      The consumer army is not NATO troops, but our home-grown herds of office hamsters. To raise them to something more than screaming "Hurray!" an extremely remarkable effort is required.

      Our opponents have "such healthy", strong armed forces, a good economy (they will object about their crisis and our rise - a lagging 10-grade student is more literate than an excellent student from the 6th grade) and a huge experience of information warfare.

      Learn, study and study military affairs again in this way! (A compilation of two quotes from one dude)
  20. sinukvl
    sinukvl April 14 2014 15: 47
    +5
    I think that those who make decisions in Russia are very good at calculating the situation not by three, but by five, or even 10 steps forward. That Putin, that his advisers and colleagues in most cases come from the KGB, and these guys are very good at analyzing the situation and drawing conclusions, and then the necessary moves. It was always their work, their life, their service.
  21. Docent1984
    Docent1984 April 14 2014 15: 48
    +1
    The second point is the widespread belief that the States, trying to tear Ukraine away, did not take into account Russia's reaction.

    It seems that they did not take into account not the reaction of Russia, but the possible result. Most likely, in the same Crimea, they expected armed clashes, a large number of fooled people and conformists, in general, all kinds of problems for Russia. And they expected this, relying on the idea of ​​people in the image of their citizens, who have long forgotten how to think themselves. They really underestimated the desire of the Russians to live together. And the growing rejection of Western "values".
  22. rugor
    rugor April 14 2014 15: 48
    +5
    I agree with the article. But it must be admitted that there has not been any hatred in the ruling ranks of the Russian Federation, which is pleasing.
  23. ronin
    ronin April 14 2014 15: 48
    +1
    Given NATO’s superiority in military power

    The question, of course, is controversial. In a fleeting conflict - yes, we will have a very hard time. In the long ... In the long, we will already have an advantage, insignificant and only due to the fact that we have very large stocks of obsolete weapons and ammunition. The war in Libya showed how quickly the French ran out of precision weapons. And we out of habit, a club!
    1. wot
      wot April 14 2014 17: 59
      +1
      what clubs did you use
  24. kirieeleyson
    kirieeleyson April 14 2014 15: 48
    +2
    The classical war between Europe and Russia, even with the use by Europe of individual nuclear weapons units and retaliatory strikes by Russia, will in any case be regional in character, even if it is of wide scope. The NATO army does not have the resources and human resources to wage a war of annihilation, this organization has long been polished to work as part of individual local operations. Without the participation of the USA, NATO will not last even two weeks in the confrontation. But the United States will not be able to disown full participation in the global war. And here, the well-known response mechanisms are included. In general, how would we, comrades, not become stalkers under retirement)))))))
    1. nikcris
      nikcris April 14 2014 20: 12
      +1
      What stupid person taught you pluses for delirium: "NATO will not last even two weeks in confrontation."; "even with the use of separate nuclear weapons by Europe and Russia's retaliatory strikes."
      If I comment in detail on such things, they will ban me forever.
      1. kirieeleyson
        kirieeleyson April 14 2014 20: 24
        -1
        And you answer, here is a good platform for discussion. Let’s do this: consider the participation of European countries (NATO-under-NATO) without the United States and Russia. Who, no, not so .. what US base in Europe will start loading nuclear weapons into the B-52 and how quickly will France merge?
        Who else there, besides the Melkobrit, can even oppose something?
        Germany, where are 40 fighters in the Bundesfer or Poland, with our 000th artillery dug out by us still near Warsaw? Maybe Croatia, with its MiG-45BIS, is already in the amount of either 21 or 14 units :?) Seriously, there is no country in the European Union who will start hostilities against us, it’s easier for them to leave NATO day and day and meet winners, as it was at all times. Well, apart from the Swiss Mountain Huntsman of course laughing
    2. nikcris
      nikcris April 14 2014 20: 17
      0
      Classic Knight, bl. In the classic war.
      PS You will not become a Stalker - we will die.
  25. dik-fort
    dik-fort April 14 2014 15: 48
    +3
    And where is the analysis of the combat effectiveness of the European armed forces? Which EU citizens are ready to die for some kind of Ukraine? The Europeans delegated questions of their defense capabilities to the United States, and Germany, in fact, is still under occupation. At the moment, Europeans can only as jackals safely and with impunity for themselves to bomb countries like Libya or Yugoslavia.
    1. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov April 14 2014 19: 23
      +2
      Quote: dik-fort
      Which EU citizens are ready to die for some kind of Ukraine?

      Why are you just like small children, Ukraine, Ukraine!
      It is said that in this game Ukraine is not even a pawn, it is a cell on this board!
      This is only the crazy crazy Tyagnybok and his comrades can seriously say that the West treats them well and therefore will forgive debts! ...... there are no printed words from such narcissistic stupidity!
  26. Quantum
    Quantum April 14 2014 15: 49
    +1
    The US dreams of a nuclear-free war with Russia. Indeed, we are inferior in
    weapons volume, etc. However, US military analysts do not take into account such a factor as the consolidation of the Russian people, their deep historical ability to survive in very difficult conditions.
    understand! Victory, even at a high price, will be ours.
  27. Alex
    Alex April 14 2014 15: 49
    +3
    Actually, it’s very similar to trying to provoke Russia to solve the problem by force. It is completely obvious that the West is directly pushing the junta to use the army to suppress the Southeast, which will inevitably force Russia to act. Is this being achieved?
    1. andrewvlg
      andrewvlg April 14 2014 16: 17
      +2
      Quote: Ralex
      It is obvious that the West is directly pushing the junta to use the army to suppress the Southeast, which will inevitably force Russia into action. Is this being achieved?

      I agree, they are seeking the entry of Russian troops into the territory of Ukraine. Another way out of this situation with bothe greatest damage to Russia is not visible.
      The article, of course, is a plus. But, I think, the author greatly exaggerates about the military clash between NATO and Russia. Yes, the Allies will never decide, since it is possible to use nuclear weapons in their territories.
      But the reason to stifle economically is excellent. Plus a reason to show the Western electorate the "enemy" - that's, they say, all the troubles because of whom! Be patient, or the Russians will "devour" you. The United States will also use shale gas and will impose an embargo on Russia.
      Large-scale economic blockade will throw our industry 20-30 years back. Accordingly, rearmament can be forgotten for a long time.
      But far from the fact that this blockade will take place.
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      2. 97110
        97110 April 14 2014 17: 35
        +1
        In-in, how the industry of the USSR was discarded before the Second World War. I don’t remember how many years. Or we got everything for them to win. My grandfather, it is true that he fought on Matilda, but only machine guns were praised. And as for the suspension, it’s only obscene - dirt clogs the tracks and the tank does not go!
        1. nikcris
          nikcris April 15 2014 00: 45
          0
          And my uncle is only about the t-34. he burned in it three times. died at 83 years old.
          Uncle Vasya did not remember the war at all.
    2. Orik
      Orik April 14 2014 17: 23
      +1
      Quote: Ralex
      Actually, it’s very similar to trying to provoke Russia to solve the problem by force. It is completely obvious that the West is directly pushing the junta to use the army to suppress the Southeast, which will inevitably force Russia to act. Is this being achieved?

      Yes, to declare us an "evil empire", to cut our international ties, weaken the economy and create discontent in Russia.
      1. dmitriygorshkov
        dmitriygorshkov April 14 2014 19: 29
        0
        Quote: Orik
        Yes, to declare us an "evil empire", to cut our international ties, weaken the economy and create discontent in Russia.

        I agree! The goal at this stage seems to be the maximum weakening of Russia, and everything else is already further prospects ...
  28. Patriot.ru.
    Patriot.ru. April 14 2014 15: 50
    0
    According to the author, "The United States wants to play us off with Europe." With whom should we play off? Germany? Poland?, But what about NATO, where, by the way, and the United States is involved
    1. Sigizbarn
      Sigizbarn April 14 2014 17: 32
      +1
      Poland, as has happened more than once in history, will be the first in line to bite Russia.
      1. Wheel
        Wheel April 14 2014 21: 18
        0
        Quote: Sigizbarn
        Poland, as has happened more than once in history, will be the first in line to bite Russia.

        And, as has happened more than once in history, cease to exist as a state.
        El is no longer running, but rake racing.
  29. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik April 14 2014 15: 51
    0
    Kind! It is very voluminous, because not all of Ukraine is important for Russia, at least in the current situation. The EU will not succeed in pushing Russia against Russia; Europe has the wrong military weight!
  30. andj61
    andj61 April 14 2014 15: 52
    0
    Be prepared for the worst case scenario ever. But still I can’t believe that this situation was specially created by archium Americans. They have a panic. If we did not immediately react to their shout, then they are already very surprised and fall into a stupor: why, because we are the coolest. But there is only one real alternative: either you accept all the events in the form in which they are currently taking place, or a nuclear conflict, because another alignment is not beneficial for us. Moreover, there is no difference whether it will be now, or after 2018, when the rearmament will be completed. All the same, the United States with its satellites is stronger in conventional weapons, it has more resources, people, weapons and equipment. Our trump cards are nuclear weapons and the unity of the nation. And for us, the threat of using nuclear weapons is the only chance of survival in this world.
    1. andrewvlg
      andrewvlg April 14 2014 16: 48
      0
      Quote: andj61
      they are also panic. If we did not immediately react to their shout, then they are already very surprised and fall into a stupor: why, because we are the coolest. But there is only one real alternative: either you accept all the events in the form in which they are currently taking place, or a nuclear conflict, because another alignment is not beneficial for us. Moreover, there is no difference whether it will be now, or after 2018, when the rearmament will be completed.

      I agree with you, except that "they have a panic." The author is just trying to convey the idea that their analysts calmly and soberly calculate the situation. And all these "emotions" are exclusively for the broad masses. And among the broad masses, I think, there is no panic yet.
      I also want to note that the rearmament will not end either in 2018 or in 2025 .. God forbid, in 50-75 years we will "overtake" our "partners" in terms of the level and quality of all weapons. And we will be able to "catch up" in 25-30 years. Of course, there are domestic models of equipment that are quite "modern" now, but to be ahead in ALL indicators (except for the number, here China is beyond competition) dozens of years of intensive work are needed, and not 2018.
  31. konvalval
    konvalval April 14 2014 15: 53
    0
    The article, of course, is mostly correct, but as for nuclear weapons, I disagree. And do not compare the role of nuclear weapons in North Korea and the role of nuclear weapons in Russia. That being said, two big differences.
  32. Stepan Vict
    Stepan Vict April 14 2014 15: 53
    +1
    The calculation is not correct. In the event of a conflict with any of the NATO countries, nuclear weapons will be used by us immediately in full and for all NATO countries. And all the military know this. Therefore, one should not think that very cunning bugs are sitting in the USA and are trying to deceive us.
  33. volot-voin
    volot-voin April 14 2014 15: 53
    +2
    The GDP certainly has a lot of shortcomings, but it is far from stupid. The way he competently furnished a party with the Crimea. I hope that he also competently evaluates the strength of the enemy based on current realities. This is only why the troops of the Russian Federation are not yet in Donetsk, the party is being beaten up by the hands of local residents and this is competent. In a positive case, we could see NATO in the western and central regions of Ukraine.
  34. tnship2
    tnship2 April 14 2014 15: 54
    +1
    In Europe, the consolidation of peoples is not very visible. Rather, centrifugal forces have manifested themselves even more against the backdrop of economic difficulties. In such a situation, to put together an alliance to go to Russia? and most importantly for what? We haven’t fought with anyone, haven’t even fired a shot at them once. On the contrary, we strive to make money together with Europe, we have enormous interpenetration of business interests and take all this like that? Even in Ukraine, Russia is just defending itself but not aggressively attacking. Everything in my opinion rested just in the fucking rudiment of the Cold War, whose name is NATO. It just needs to justify its existence in the absence of the Warsaw Pact.
  35. mariya
    mariya April 14 2014 15: 54
    0
    I agree with the author of the article - Russia is provoked to start hostilities, and pressure is put on the most "painful" points, on the Russian-speaking population in Ukraine. I rely with all my heart and soul on intelligence, wisdom, cunning, professionalism of VV (he showed himself to be a strong politician). And I hope for a peaceful solution to the issue.
  36. 97110
    97110 April 14 2014 15: 54
    +2
    Reasonable, but. I really want to believe in some kind of inner conviction, a premonition of the Yankee's overestimation of their capabilities. Objectively, relying on known information, how can we be against them ... But why is there no doubt about what is needed. Yes, and how many times in history has this been - how much for us ... But it turned out that they really need it ... Warriors, you know. Only the French cause admiration. Well it is necessary for the entire 2WW, after less than a month of "heroic resistance" to lie moaning under the Germans and emerge among the winners. The Germans, after the work of the British aviation, also, I suppose, are not eager to dismantle the ruins again. The Poles remain. Yes, this is serious. Ambition, experience of sitting in the Kremlin, hatred for centuries. But the experience of the Volyn massacre did not disappear. So "don't bzdi, author, let's break through."
    1. nikcris
      nikcris April 14 2014 16: 04
      0
      Respect! Petushatniki pleased - and if you recall the pogrom of their fleet by the Admiralty, then in general the mood is improving)))
  37. Caucasian
    Caucasian April 14 2014 15: 55
    +1
    Military wisdom. Better to overtake than not to overtake.
  38. parusnik
    parusnik April 14 2014 15: 56
    +3
    The situation with Ukraine reminds me of a provocation of Russia on military operations.... Here, here ... in July 1914 ... it was precisely with the provocation that the PMV began ... moreover, everyone understood that it was a provocation, but the mechanism directed against Russia had to be launched and started ... by the hand of G. Principle, they pulled in RI to the first world .. Now, a similar situation, knowing exactly knowing that Russia will not tolerate the infringement of the rights of the Russian-speaking population in Ukraine, the United States and its henchmen are trying to provoke Russia into military action ..
  39. mackonya
    mackonya April 14 2014 15: 56
    +1
    I think there is no underestimation on the part of Russia (a collective image in this context uniting the head of state and government, as well as representatives of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and, of course, based on analytical data from intelligence and counterintelligence). Of course, the "pressure" from the US has always been and not necessarily directly, but through NATO countries (Germany, France, Turkey and Japan). But some underestimation on the part of opponents is noticeable in the Syrian problem with chemical. weapons and the Crimean referendum. Of course, we must not forget the main military truth "If everything goes perfectly in the offensive, then we have fallen into a trap", but it was not perfect. At every stage of the Ukrainian crisis, there was a "hot" confrontation between Russia and the EU and the United States, let us recall, for example, the statement of Barack Obama that "military intervention in Ukraine will cost Russia dearly." Of course, everyone knows that B. Obama and A. Merkel are only "lobbying" the interests of transatlantic corporations, but V.V. Putin also represents someone's interests.
  40. Vladycat
    Vladycat April 14 2014 15: 57
    +2
    In general, the article is a plus. The very beginning was alarming by the constant waving of flags and patriotic cries (we will tear everyone). I really hope that we really began to approach politics in a balanced manner, taking into account our interests.
    But remember the classics: The laws of Chisholm (Murphy)


    When things go well, something should happen in the very near future.
    Consequences:
    When things go worse nowhere, in the very near future they will go even worse.
    If it seems to you that the situation is improving, then you haven’t noticed something.

    People understand any proposals differently than the one who makes them.
    Consequences:
    Even if your explanation is so clear that it excludes any false interpretation, there will still be a person who will misunderstand you.
    If you are sure that your action will be universally approved, someone will definitely not like it.
    smile
  41. Energy
    Energy April 14 2014 15: 57
    0
    as E. Letov used to say: "Everything is going according to plan."
  42. ed65b
    ed65b April 14 2014 15: 59
    +1
    Our new strategist, Sergey Nikolaevich. But donkeys are sitting in the General Staff, and the president and his advisers went for a walk like that. I will not even comment on an article from the category just to strike out, the author forgot about the simple movement of troops and their concentration in the pre-war period. who will fight? hordes of ninja rush out of the teleport on the border?
  43. Kite
    Kite April 14 2014 16: 00
    +2
    ".... I also hope that those who make decisions in the Russian army are far from the childish enthusiasm of bloggers ... "
    Nikolaich, decisions are not made in the army - this is one, but two - of course, the average level of development and awareness of the mass of bloggers is much lower than that of people who make decisions at the state level of government, plus the responsibility not only for actions, but also for words is not at all comparable from bloggers and top management officials. Only we in the comments do not know the true rulers of the West, but we are surprised at the level of dementia of the "clowns" who represent them. Whatever this clownery means, our decisions will not become an emotional response, but will be reasonable.
  44. Tiamat2702
    Tiamat2702 April 14 2014 16: 00
    0
    The author, turn on the brain, your conclusions are simply illogical. Article minus. And I won’t give many reasons, one is enough, but significant: neither the USA nor the EU (I mean those people who really have control levers in their hands) have no guarantees that the Russian Federation will not use nuclear weapons as a response to the beginning NATO non-nuclear military confrontation. In the meantime, there are no guarantees, and there will be no ordinary non-nuclear war, since Russia (unlike the DPRK) is fully capable of effectively using its potential strategic nuclear forces.
  45. mamont5
    mamont5 April 14 2014 16: 00
    0
    "Do you really believe that people in the US make decisions with little understanding of geography and prone to hysteria?"

    No, of course, but who told you that people behind them cannot be mistaken? They are the same flesh and if smarter than officials, this does not mean that they better assess the situation. They make enough mistakes now and earlier, incl. hat-making, of course, is not necessary, but you should not shy away from them either.

    "These measures are initially unable to force Russia to change its position, but are clearly designed to provoke it into an armed conflict."
    Yes, I agree, but our leadership is still holding on and God forbid the rebels of the Southeast will not fail and will be able to survive themselves.

    "this is a widespread opinion that the United States, trying to tear away Ukraine, did not take into account the reaction of Russia. Are you serious? After Russia behaved in the situation with Syria, the very last housewife could have foreseen such a reaction from Moscow to the situation in Ukraine, not to speak of NATO military analysts. "
    Yes, they could easily ignore. They have the same worldview as the official leaders of the United States. Frantic conceit and a clear underestimation of Russia. And again, not the first time.

    "Given NATO's superiority in military strength, there is no point in waiting for Russia to strengthen its troops. The further, the less chances of defeating Russia in an armed conflict. Why wait for 2018, when the modernization of the army is completed? It is better to provoke a conflict now ..."
    They probably want to provoke a conflict, but they themselves will definitely not participate in it. The gut is thin. They need to strike us in the international arena, isolate us. And to fight ... They too love life and themselves.
  46. plotnikov561956
    plotnikov561956 April 14 2014 16: 00
    +1
    I put a minus to the correct article ... for one simple reason, it’s not very far from the kitchen belfry .. and the analysts haven’t let us down yet ... what can I say ...
    1. AVIATOR36662
      AVIATOR36662 April 14 2014 16: 37
      +2
      I want to support the comrade and add that while the slow "work" of the Russian Foreign Ministry is going on in the international arena and between Ukraine and the Russian Federation, the positions of the Donetsk People's Republic and the positions of the Army of the South-East are significantly strengthened. And all this is a prerequisite for a good "game completion", developed by our analysts, of course, taking into account all local and temporal nuances.
  47. Deff
    Deff April 14 2014 16: 01
    0
    Given NATO’s superiority in military power, it makes no sense to wait for Russia to strengthen its forces. The farther, the less chance of defeating Russia in armed conflict. Why wait for 2018 of the year when the modernization of the army is completed? It’s better to provoke a conflict now by hooking on a living thing. And what could be more important for Russia than Ukraine?
    I think that NATO will be followed by notification of a tactical nuclear strike on NATO bases in Europe. For do not meddle with the orange revolutions in the zone of interests of Russia.
    And then the States should react in direct contact without NATO, the UN, etc.
    For the real confrontation is the USA - the Russian Federation.
    Ukraine’s return is the shutdown of the pipe in the EU, collapse.
    Well, or abruptly moving everything to the East - we give Moscow.
  48. felix34
    felix34 April 14 2014 16: 01
    +3
    GRANDFATHER
    My dad also said: WHO CONSIDERS THE ENEMY STUPID, THAT IS THE STUPID ENEMY.
  49. dikir-77
    dikir-77 April 14 2014 16: 01
    +2
    I agree with the author, the mood about the decaying west is too strong. But only few people remember that the same mood was in the USSR, how it ended is known.
    The West can rot even calmly and quietly for another 100 years, and we will also scream about our coolness.
    Another point, Russia is only responding to the set-ups of the West, albeit very worthily, and does not introduce the ball into the game.
    This is defense, and wars are won only by offensive.
    The power of NATO and Russia is incomparable, and we must not forget about it, they are still too far ahead.
    I am also annoyed by the current situation, because now, as in 41, there is an active rearmament, is this a coincidence?
    1. mamont5
      mamont5 April 14 2014 16: 21
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      Quote: dikir-77
      But only few people remember that the same mood was in the USSR, what ended up being known.

      Nevertheless, now many economists say that only the rapid collapse of the USSR, largely provoked from the outside, gave the West a respite and allowed it to live a relatively comfortable quarter of a century. But all when it ends. Moreover, with its social policy, the West itself drives itself into a dead end.
    2. AVIATOR36662
      AVIATOR36662 April 15 2014 06: 59
      +1
      There is no need to strain the situation so much. NATO has no options to really intervene on this issue. Like 08.08.08. Just as it has already trained law enforcement officers and the Security Service of Ukraine with its instructors and the CIA. The result of the Maidan coup is already in the form of Crimea and will still be in the form of other preferences .And we will survive the sanctions from NATO for Russia in the form of another freezing of contacts.
  50. Stalevar
    Stalevar April 14 2014 16: 03
    +4
    An excellent article, for many, as a bucket of cold water, and a reason to soberly reflect on the situation. Everything is just beginning and I want only one thing - that would be enough wisdom for our politicians in the most complicated struggle of interests, a struggle that can cost the world dearly!