Do not seriously count on the stupidity of the enemy

Recently, the Internet has been replete with articles on the revival of Russia and the fall of the US empire. Perhaps my article will be a little out of the trend, well, do not judge me. Fully supporting the revival of Great Russia and considering myself Russian as a matter of fact, all the same, I would venture to express an opinion different from the mainstream. We have two excellent proverbs well illustrating the main point of this article:

1. Don't say gop until you jump.

2. Do not share the skin of an unkilled bear.

So, what is it all about? The fact that in no case should not underestimate the enemy, let us take it as an axiom. Everyone knows that on the battlefield the best way to ambush the enemy is to imitate a retreat. The actions of the Americans and NATO are like panic at the moment, but let's assume for a moment that this is a game. It's not a secret that Rice, Power, Obama, Rassmunsen, Ashton and others are just parrots, broadcasting what they are told. Do you really believe that in the United States decisions are made by people who are poorly versed in geography and are prone to tantrums? Major decisions are made in a completely different place by people who are competent enough in matters of geopolitics. And do not expect that the degradation of education in the West has affected everyone. People who analyze the situation and make decisions receive a completely different education.

Personally, the situation with the pressure of Russia painfully reminds me of the pressure on Japan on the eve of Pearl Harbor. These measures are initially incapable of forcing Russia to change its position, but are clearly intended to provoke it into an armed conflict.

Over the years, a philistine in Russia has become accustomed to the idea that the presence of a nuclear weapons This is a guarantee of national security. In this connection, North Korea is constantly cited as an example. But only a person far from the army can think that North Korea is able to fully use nuclear weapons. South Korea’s NWO’s maximum will suffer South Korea, and nothing more. North Korea is more used by the United States as a scarecrow for Japan and South Korea, to emphasize their dependence on the United States, as well as to continuously escalate the situation in the Asia-Pacific Region to China. If the States wanted to seriously solve the problem of Korea, they would solve it according to the Libyan version. Moreover, in the light of new repressions after Kim Jong-un came to power, they should not even look for an excuse.

The second point is the widespread view that the States, trying to tear Ukraine away, did not take into account Russia's reaction. Are you seriously? After Russia behaved in a situation with Syria, the latest housewife could have foreseen such a reaction from Moscow to the situation in Ukraine, not to mention NATO military analysts.

The situation with Ukraine reminds me more of the provocation of Russia to the fighting. Given the preponderance of NATO in military power, it makes no sense for them to wait for Russia to strengthen its troops. The further, the less chance of defeating Russia in an armed conflict. Why wait for 2018 of the year when the modernization of the army is completed? It is better to provoke a conflict now, hooking it to the living. And what could be more important for Russia than Ukraine?

One and all analysts agree that time works against the West in every sense. What is the point and what to expect? Waiting for Russia's breakthrough in the Arctic, its departure from the petrodollar, the emergence of an ICBM in Cuba and Venezuela? Obviously, they are interested in the soonest confrontation with Russia, but still made up for the fight for human rights. And the role of meat in this slaughter is not allotted to Ukraine. The United States expects to push Europe with Russia, and will connect at the last stage, when both sides will be drained of blood. And it’s not even necessary to bring the situation to an exchange of nuclear strikes. After all, it is clear that the use of nuclear weapons is a gesture of despair before the complete destruction of the country. Before that, it is not necessary to bring serious economic damage and infrastructure damage enough to cast off Russia's revival for years and decades. And then you can sign the world ...

I really hope that my reasoning is only a flight of fancy, but I also hope that those who make decisions in the Russian army are far from the bloggers' childish enthusiasm and can adequately evaluate all possible scenarios and circumvent all the pitfalls of our "western partners." The biggest mistake a commander can make is to underestimate the enemy and take his cunning as weakness ...

Comments

[Human]

I hope our leaders are calculating the steps and consequences. Recently, too many Europe and the United States have yielded, which in itself is strange. Either they are really so weak, or they are preparing something. But it’s better to be prepared for the worst than bite your elbows later.

[zanoza]

I agree with the author of the article (Grinev Sergey Nikolaevich). I also think so.

Quote: Humen

I hope our leaders are calculating the steps and consequences.

I also hope for collective the mind of our leadership. Events show that our leadership is aware of today's dangers and acts adequately and reasonably.
It is dangerous to give a slack, Western "jackals" (they are "partners") will tear apart.
There are allies in counteracting American and European global expansion.
Obliged to survive!

[Sid.74]

Quote: zanoza

And I also hope for the collective mind of our leadership. Events show that our leadership is aware of today's dangers and acts adequately and reasonably.

They would have acted without looking back, the tanks would have stood in Kiev for a long time! Just that it would have given us, except for problems! And so we played a lead and Crimea became part of the Russian Federation! And there is no NATO base in Crimea and parity has been maintained so far!
Maybe the author is right about the fact that Western politicians are not analysts, but they are representatives of their elites, and if the elites have degraded, then this is also a tendency for senior officials!

[Ataman]

And I do not agree with the author of the article. As Napoleon used to say: "It is not necessary to explain it by malicious intent, what is explained by ordinary stupidity." The goal of America is to make a mess, as in Chechnya and Georgia, in order to just mess with at least or draw into a military conflict as much as possible. And watch the Russians kill each other. In the First World War, they said that England hated the Germans so much that she was ready to fight them to the last Russian soldier. And now America is ready to fight with Russia to the last Ukrainian, Georgian or Chechen. Only now is the education of American strategists, they could not turn a Russian person in Ukraine into dill. As he was Russian, he remained.

[anfil]

In the magazine "Around the world" for March 2008. this phrase is written a little differently: - in Russia they began to say with bitterness that "the allies are ready to fight to the last drop of the Russian soldier's blood"

[Rus2012]

It’s better to provoke a conflict now by hooking on a living thing. And what could be more important for Russia than Ukraine?

Quote: Ataman

America's goal is to make a mess, to

in general, everything is correct ...
Only a mess where the Slav brothers beat their dishes in their own house, to the delight of the adversary.
They brought this to-brothers of our Little Russians, with our full connivance, that now they do not heed the voice of reason?

[fedorovith]

I agree very much, all this mold has climbed to the very "tomatoes", and now the turnip hurts .., how is it?

[Mihaylo Tishayshiy]

Quote: Ataman

As Napoleon used to say: "It is not necessary to explain it by malicious intent, what is explained by ordinary stupidity."

We all know how Napoleon graduated; we did not study from Ukrainian textbooks. I completely agree with the author. Ancient eastern wisdom advises to prepare very seriously for a battle with an enemy, even if this opponent is a child. It is better to "overdo it" than "overdo it" so that Napoleon's words do not refer to us.

[Ratibor]

Just not right now the education of American strategists, they could not turn a Russian person in Ukraine into dill. As he was Russian, he stayed.
some could

[Denis 60 rus]

the elites may have degraded, but I doubt that they have degraded those for whom they work.

[aktanir]

It also seems to me that the Western political "tycoons", the Pentagon bosses are just waiting for Russia to get head over heels into the hole prepared for it - Ukraine, as 25 years ago the USSR got into another such trap - Afghanistan. The current move, when the self-defense forces of the southeastern regions of Hochlandia defend themselves on their own, is quite acceptable for us. We just need not to leave the brothers of the Slavs alone, let our intelligence, our weapons and our money help them. Moreover, this is not a waste, but an investment in their own security and stability at the borders. This will help us reunite in the future. The Russian special services need to be more active. Why are odious personalities like Yarosh still alive?

[I read the news]

Because Yarosh is not the main threat.

[Kurkin]

Let this scarecrow live. He is needed just as a scarecrow.

[Vasyan1971]

And GDP is silent and silent. Silent and silent. SILENT AND SILENT! Here is something to attack !!!

[Nicanor]

But are Russian special services obliged to report to you (us) about their actions and plans?

[mikihc]

Remove Yarosh another will appear. Our intelligence needs to drive wedges between them so that they squabble among themselves. And in the southeast there is more organization. Form the authorities. In general, as Ilyich taught.

[philip]

Yes, because special services are special services, and the less they know about them, the better their work.

[oblako]

On the whole, I agree, only in Europe they are not well educated either. And all NATO will not want to fight for US interests there. And this may mean the collapse of the bloc, this is in the first place. And then Europe has something to lose ... And it understands what it is doing. But of course you cannot underestimate. But the circumstances are such that having said "A" it is necessary to say "B" and I cannot imagine anything else. And there has never been such a thing in history. Nobody wants to lose face.

[Sigizbarn]

I don't think anyone will ask Europe. They have been on dry rations for the states for a long time. They will give a command and go. And the former countries of the Warsaw Pact will go first. Especially Poland and Romania. They have long been "in the rack".

[dmitriygorshkov]

Quote: Sigizbarn

Especially Poland and Romania. They have long been "in the rack".

And also the countries of sprats, but their stand is the fifth position, everyone understands this except them!

[Anisim1977]

The war between NATO and Russia on the territory of "Square is nonsense:
1) Old Man blocks Poland.
2) Romanians are just suckers.
3) The entire territory of the "Nezalezhnaya" is tightly closed off from the territory of Russia and Belarus.
But NATO is unable to fight without dominance at sea and air.
Here is the opinion of the amateur.

[Wheel]

Quote: Sigizbarn

I don't think anyone will ask Europe. They have been on dry rations for the states for a long time. They will give a command and go. And the former countries of the Warsaw Pact will go first. Especially Poland and Romania. They have long been "in the rack".

It is unlikely.
Geyropeytsy, although they sing along to the Yusovtsy, will not engage in suicide.
The troops of the European members cannot boast of such special readiness, as Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, and Mali have clearly shown.

[Alex Danilov]

So what kind of degenerates do you need to be in Poland and Romania in order to commit suicide? Do you think they are suicides?

[a52333]

Thanks to the author for a gang of cold water, but I do not agree with him.
If the states felt confident, they would send their troops to Syria (after the shelling) and to Libya to milk freebie oil. Something there is no zeal.
And then on to, Nata will help Ukraine. Than? Let them help you in Afghanistan, Aniki warriors. At least 30 people go for cigarettes in Kabul.
And do not speak to me for them.
Europe. More precisely, who? There is the Bundeswehr more or less. Or maybe Estonia?
No need for a night of a fairy tale about a granny!
The last operation was Iraqi, but let me remind you that Baghdad "took" the golden donkey.

[Baloo]

At stake is not just geopolitics, but also the future security of our descendants.
Everywhere where merikashki appear with their crap, everywhere there is blood, the death of a civilian population, devastation.
I once wondered why everything that starts on amer- subconsciously causes me a negative attitude. Then I realized, I can’t forget the chronicle of the Vietnam War: on the dirt road run small children without clothes and hair that are burnt from napalm, the skin hangs with rags from burn blisters all over the body. Pain, fear, despair ...

[nikcris]

Aniki do not go platooning for cigarettes in Afghanistan. You have beguiled them with someone. I even suspect with whom. They are sent everything that is required.

[Wheel]

Quote: nikcris

Aniki do not go platooning for cigarettes in Afghanistan. You have beguiled them with someone. I even suspect with whom. They are sent everything that is required.

Walk, still walk.

[a52333]

There was a film on the 24 documentary. They walk, Afghans are offended, for them to bargain as for us to breathe, and the cameras turn a campaign for cigarettes into a small military operation. Throws a bucks on the table and doesn’t even wait for the change, running to the base. Bribing field commanders, so as not to shoot.
Shuravi fought better, as the Afghans say

[nikcris]

Che, they do not stick vodka? Miserable Anschluss.

[anfil]

Stupid people always rely on the fact that the enemy is obviously weak, that if he discovered his essence, it is easier to calculate. This is a huge misconception, an incorrect assessment of the enemy leads to disastrous results. This can be seen in the lessons of the Great Patriotic War, when the Germans thought they were more developed, and they would easily sweep away the unwashed Slavs, this is also noticeable in the lessons of Chechnya, when 30 people held a height that was stormed by several thousand people. This is also evident from the lessons of our life, when we lower a person a little, with the thought: “What can he do? He doesn’t have anyone serious behind his back, he won’t mourn anything, ”and then they got such a blow, and they thought:“ Damn, how did he do it? He’s nobody. ”

[cheega69]

And who told you for the seizure of the territory, the land operation? So the question is not worth it. You can get far from Middle-earth and Turkey. Are there any means of interception, here is the question.

[cheega69]

You can add to the article that the visit of the US destroyer to the Black Sea also lies in this scenario.

[sibiriak38]

The author is completely right. Do not underestimate the enemy. Including the measure of his calculating "madness".
It’s good if they just want to exhaust Russia in a local conflict.
And if, after watching post-apocalyptic films like "Mad Max", "The Postman" or "Eli's Book", the guys with super-large grandmothers decided to incite the world into a nuclear catastrophe, of course they themselves were well prepared.
They will wait a year or two underground or on some island in the Pacific Ocean (or better, both). Then they will go to the liberated land (after all, all the billions of unnecessary Chinese, Indians, Ukrainians and Russians will die in radioactive hell) and they will take the whole world warm. There will remain a golden million rulers and a couple of tens of millions of half-slaves.
How do you like this scenario? And after all, he is quite real, even in spite of all the seeming insanity. The level of any disaster depends on the height of the look at it: what seems like an apocalypse below - from the upper ranks of the world cinema seems like just a small problem.
The degree to which our partners are “mad or calculating” is very difficult to calculate.

[Darn]

Hey.

It’s good if they just want to exhaust Russia in a local conflict.

And we have a large border, if along the entire border blazes? It will be difficult.

[dmitriygorshkov]

Quote: sibiriak38

The degree to which our partners are “mad or calculating” is very difficult to calculate.

You have painted everything interestingly and visually. BUT.
If a nuclear war starts seriously, it will NOT work out in a bunker on an island, the ball will either burn out or go out of orbit. They will probably calculate this.
If it was possible to sit out somewhere, they would already have done it, rather than spending a ton of money on air defense.

[Darn]

It will NOT work out, the ball will either burn out or go out of orbit.

A full-scale nuclear war is afraid of EVERYTHING.

[Darn]

They will wait a year or two underground or on some island in the Pacific Ocean (or better, both).

I think I can’t do it for a year. I wondered where it is better to winter the nuclear winter. It would not be bad in near-Earth orbit, but today it’s not realistic. Yes, and generally easier to survive, at the North Pole than in orbit or nearby planets. (Although it seems like someone assembled an expedition to Mars one way .) It seems that harmful radioactive radiation absorbs hydrogen well. Then water should protect. So it’s better to hide under water. Moreover, if you don’t get out of the bomb shelter, it will be safer to move under water. Moreover, there are projects of underwater hotels in the internet. Maybe they built them somewhere. So they probably sit there.

[max702]

Ask when it will be possible to live in the Chernobyl area, and after all, not a year or two has passed ... after using all the toys accumulated by mankind, will the ball survive or crack a big question, but even if you apply 10% of the arsenal, then Chernobyl will seem like a heavenly place, life will generally shorten its existence, there is such a book by S. Tarmashev "Ancient" there are a lot of fantasies and outright delirium, BUT the nuclear arctic fox and its consequences are described very accurately and correctly.

[asar]

If you want peace, get ready for war!

[bomg.77]

Quote: asar

If you want peace, get ready for war!

The Minister of Defense of Sweden, said that citizens should stock up on water.
And the Prime Minister of Switzerland said that it is necessary to prepare for war!
They provoke us .... they all feel it!

[Lelek]

In one word "PARABELLUM".

[the polar]

Quote: Humen

I hope our leaders are calculating the steps and consequences. Recently, too many Europe and the United States have yielded, which in itself is strange. Either they are really so weak, or they are preparing something. But it’s better to be prepared for the worst than bite your elbows later.

Neither the United States nor Europe is interested in a military confrontation with Russia. Two world wars have significantly undermined the human resource of Europe, which had to be replenished by Afro-Asians. In addition, a military conflict with Russia will inevitably develop into an exchange of nuclear strikes, after which Europe will practically disappear and little will remain of America. Therefore, for twenty years now there has been a hidden financial and economic war "to exhaust" Russia, and an information war, designed for internal destabilization and the subsequent disintegration of the Russian Federation. But in the financial and information war, Russia is in a difficult situation due to the corrupting and destructive corruption that has hit all levels of government and the ramified "fifth column", the main striking force of which is rooted in government circles. If you start to immediately burn out both "cancerous tumors" with a hot iron with a hot iron, Russia will not only withstand the confrontation with the West, but also put a farewell bouquet on its grave

[Nekarmadlen]

Quote: Humen

I hope our leaders are calculating the steps and consequences.

That's why our tanks are not going to Kiev yet. You know that comrades ... For some reason, I’m very confident in our president, as my son says, I’m sorry, he’s stupid what he’s doing. Good luck to all of us! Everything will be fine!

[Mareman Vasilich]

The author of the article says that God will show and let God guide wisdom and will.

[Igor39]

The enemy cannot be underestimated, but I think NATO is unlikely to want to fight with us, there will be not only war but also the energy blockade of Europe, and if you bomb the SA, the whole world will get a glimpse. Yes, and Europeans have no desire to die for the interests of the American establishment.

[Dimy4]

Thanks to the author for a gang of cold water, but I do not agree with him.

I support. In general, the author is right to underestimate the enemy is very dangerous, but to portray from him a kind of playing ancient Greek god, who is known to be immortal, who has gone down from Olympus to play on the ground, is also not worth it. People sitting there are not stupid, able to think, cynical, but people.

[Predator]

With regard to this issue, I think it has repeatedly lost in all respects. Yet before Syria. I do not think that they did not know about the preparation of the Maidan in Ukraine, the closest neighbors are always leading those who influence them. With such statements by our leadership, after Abkhazia, Crimea, everything should be calculated. And you are no longer those who will not take the risk of Sam. They understand that America is far away, and we are close, Russia and Europe will suffer, and they don’t need it at all!

[With Petrovsky]

In fact, everything is obvious; there is nothing more to add to the article.

[Stalnov I.P.]

Yes, you need to keep your eyes open, be alert and very, very vigilant, just do not agree on some issues, the DPRK, the Libyan scenario will not work there, the losses of state aviation will be just big, and the territorial operation will fail, due to the enormous losses of personnel, and behind the DPRK, the PRC looms and that’s all, it’s just guttering, chatter and threat, sanctions, but no more, for example, Somalia, 235 marines died and the Congress immediately recalled the troops, across Russia, remember how many months they were preparing the operation in Iraq - 6 months, while the troops were deployed, prepared, coordinated, etc., it is clear how many times more troops are needed for Russia, there are still some European problems, territories below sea level and nuclear power plants, all this without the use of nuclear weapons, not I take chemical enterprises, etc. I think Europeans are not fools either, they understand the hidden position of the states, raking in the heat with the wrong hands. Yes, analysts work for them and for us.

[razved]

Plus komentu. I will add. If a certain author has thought of it, then TAM should be sure. At the same time, one should not lose sight of the variability of actions and their consequences.

[erased]

Reasonable. But I also want to believe (which does not always work out) that the Russian authorities calculate the situation and work out decisions based on accurate data and analysis, but not otherwise. There is a big game, one of the stages we are going through. The bet in the game is life. And the existence of Russia as a state, a power, the Russian Motherland.
In a word, all the garbage, the main thing is that the Sun warms, the Moon hangs and the rivers do not flow back.

[Turkir]

Reasonable and convincing. It only remains to hope that our analysts also calculate all the options for possible scenarios. And the use of soft impact and solutions of the people of Ukraine expands these opportunities.

[industries_88]

Perhaps I also agree with the author. Flapping flags is great, of course, but you don’t need to lose your scent either. As soon as you relax the jackals will immediately attack from the back. We took these positions thanks to courage and clarity, now perseverance will be required.

[free]

perhaps the right article is only one thing, but if a full-scale conflict happens, we should simply be obliged to use it, why? if they, having destroyed our economy, throw us away decades ago, there may not be another chance, then let them die with us, and it’s a pity for the remains forever discourage the desire to fight with the Russians, we must clearly state our position, any military actions against us will entail a nuclear strike, Europe (meaning the population) is in a panic and, as a result, not enthusiastic about the actions of its government, America in Ah, we will laugh at last! FORWARD RUSSIA!

[Letun]

Yes, if you have to fight with NATO, then you won’t manage without nuclear weapons. And they will be the first to change it, because without nuclear weapons what the hell they can do with us. Russia is in every way bigger and stronger than Libya and Yugoslavia.
The article is good, sobering, but the United States and Europe are now really not the same. Look at what's going on inside.

[nikcris]

And what is going on inside them? Tell me what is terribleNEW? Terrible than in your yard.

[nikcris]

Do you have any kids? Not? Thank God!!!

[Keeper]

This "game" is cooler than poker and chess!
With every victory of Russia on the world stage, I catch myself thinking that we are starting to breathe deeply!
Do not give offense !!!

[VladimirD]

This is not a game at all. In poker, chips are at stake, but here are human lives. Of course, we rejoice at our victories. Crimea, this is actually something! Neither ours, nor the Americans did not expect that events would develop so rapidly. The Americans will certainly draw a conclusion From what happened. I agree with the author of the article, and the Russian proverb can be slightly modernized: The best decoration for the "Castle in the Air" is the skin of a bear that has not been killed. And of course we will not let ourselves be offended.

[svetlomor]

Given NATO’s superiority in military power,

Let's wait until winter and see who and what outweighs.

[vch62388]

Even if we fully join Ukraine before the winter, the Baltic states completely, and even Poland and Romania, we will still be economically weaker than the rest of Europe + North America. We must not get involved in the slaughter, but we should wait another 5 years.
Or did you mean nuclear winter?)))

[Sigizbarn]

Even in 5 years, it will be extremely difficult to compare with the potential of Europe + USA.
We need allies and alliances. Alternatively India

[Zaslavsky-S]

It is necessary to multiply! Do not drink beer, with vodka, sit in the kitchen and scold everyone and everything. And to work for the good of the family, play sports, love your people, and your homeland! Raise children in the spirit of the Slavs! And everyone should start with himself! Glory to the Family !!

[Baloo_bst]

I completely agree. The most important victory is a victory over oneself.

[anfil]

No need to panic, with a good leader everything will be fine

[Lelek]

Baltic States, Poland, Romania with their debts, problems and phobias? God forbid. We have enough of our own.

[dmitriygorshkov]

Quote: vch62388

Even if before winter

If we do the nonsense that you have listed, then we have a unique furry animal!
Wow, the Baltic States, Romania, Poland to strengthen the connection!
It's like putting a dozen bricks around your neck before bathing!

[vch62388]

Actually, it was an attempt at sarcasm

[Cripple cross]

Politics is a tough game of chess. The moves to the front are known only to the players themselves. The figures are not given to know this. We are only fans of one of the parties. The article is reasonable. But what will happen, we will never guess for certain.

[Wiruz]

Hmmm ...
How well they lived before - they wanted to start a war - they unleashed. They openly declared that the war was for the sake of lands, resources, nat. interests and stuff. And now ... so much lies and hypocrisy for the sake of several days of hostilities

[Aldo]

Do you want to say how unlimited they were, right?

[Wiruz]

Do you want to say how unlimited they were, right?

But what, now not?

[svp67]

It’s not a fantasy, it has long been clear that the West wants events like the "Crimean War" to develop and is preparing the "ground." In particular, articles began to appear comparing GDP and today's Russia with Nicholas 1 and then Russia ... We just need to act now very carefully and purposefully, implementing good information support, and pursuing a course to protect our financial structures. I look for weaknesses in the position of our opponents and lure other countries over to our side ...
Yes, and rely on the stupidity of the enemy - this is not primarily to respect yourself ...

[sashppppp]

Article plus .. at 41m they also wanted to beat the enemy on its territory - everything turned out to be much more dramatic

[nikcris]

Mr. Grinev woke up? And remember the dream? About rockets in Venezuela (why not in Nicaragua). But he immediately fell out and said: "Over the years, the average person in Russia got used to the idea that the presence of nuclear weapons is a guarantee of the country's security." Yes, Mr. Grinev, this is precisely the guarantee. You can gradually start up the wall feverishly ...

[tolyasik0577]

comrade is right, unfortunately nuclear weapons, the fact that we are now on duty is the only deterrent against aggressive and impudent behavior of America. it is she who needs all this madhouse that is going on in Ukraine. and our nuclear weapons are still capable of "Strike Back" at the enemy.

[nikcris]

Is Grinev about this paisal? It's kind of about "non-resistance ...". The fact that we are woodlice against the West. Or have you not moved in?
This parish on rearmament by 2018 still pumped up. It is possible to rearm before 2018 and until 2025 - there is no justice in the world.

[dalekiy]

By the way, the same Beria, Lavrenty Pavlovich, was responsible for creating the nuclear shield. Completed the task.

[nikcris]

And who is arguing?

[Vorodis_vA]

this is one of the most popular versions, in my opinion there is a place to live. But not everything is so simple, now there is a big chance to put pressure on Europe until it gives a back one, and then we are in pluses. In my opinion, Europe began to soften, they are scared, their legs are shaking, they don’t know where the Bluff ends and the irrevocable showdown begins. Some EU countries have already shut up, no one forgot what war is, a real big war breathes a cadaverous smell into their necks.

[nikcris]

When a conflict erupted in the Falklands, the USSR then made a languid mine. We were like Argentina on the drum. Today, Ukraine has few people involved in the search for adventure.

[ZU-23]

I very much agree, I also thought the other day that we can relax on the fact that the Americans are stupid, as they relaxed thinking that Russia was sintering and would no longer get out of its knees. We just need to go forward all our lives, despite the fact that who will be behind us by how many goals, considering when we still rise so much.

[Flinky]

Plus article. I think that ours, not working especially for the public, are calculating these options. That is why there are still no our troops in Ukraine.

[Terrible ensign]

A little cold water on hot heads ... That's right. Just do not forget that the decision-making center in Russia, most likely, is more interfaced with the General Staff of the General Staff, the Defense Ministry, the FSB and the Security Council under the President of the Russian Federation, rather than with a company conducted in the media, blogs, and various kinds of social networks. Thinking people are well aware of this situation. What is shown on TV and spoken on the radio is only a fraction of what is actually happening. And the conclusions of thinkers from the TV are only their conclusions. Reality is both more complex and diverse, as well as solutions to emerging problems. Therefore, one should not take everything exclusively in line with mass propaganda and patriotic euphoria from the processes of the annexation of Crimea and the begun federalization of southeastern Ukraine. The article put a plus.

[promt26]

I do not agree with the author. The situation that is now developing in Ukraine, right now, can be called spontaneous. I do not think that ours right now does not work in Ukraine, but this is an attempt to at least somehow manage the process and promote state interests. American analysts are certainly pros, I do not argue. But such an energetic reaction of Russia was not calculated. I am sure that the West will lose outright in Ukraine!

[tolyasik0577]

and to the west, Ukraine and in x .. not perly. she would have to feed herself. America is about the axis of evil pushed by the Europeans. Even the director of German or French intelligence does not come to Kiev. but the tsar arrives to be empty.

[dalekiy]

"I am sure that the West will lose outright in Ukraine!"

I would like to believe it. But we, it seems to me, have very little room for maneuver. They consistently press and the point is not in sanctions, but in the fact that they are forcing Russia to intervene and impose their "game". I really want the SE to separate from the Nazi pseudo-state, but Russia will not pull a few more areas purely economically. They will have to be raised from the ruins. This, apparently, is the West's trap - an analogue of the collapse in oil prices. As a Russian person, of course, I will be glad to join Russia, but there is also an economic aspect in this.

[Kibalchish]

I agree with the author of the article only in the fact that there should not be a cap of upbeat mood ... And if you take a full look at the situation, then my opinion is formed from the response of the West to the actions of our country! But the reaction today is that the West is generally shocked by how the GDP works, and I strongly doubt that there is any hidden and insidious plan in the actions of the EU and the USA. More likely, they don’t know what to do!

[Freemason]

Article plus. But there is one small "but"! History has taught us two main rules. If they start to beat us, we endure until we have enough patience, and then we give back so that they don't have time to wash the blood. The second lesson, "Whoever comes to us with a sword will die by the sword!" This phrase of Victory was said by our ancestor Alexander Nevsky.
Yes, NATO is a strong and numerous enemy. But as many have said this is an army of consumers. They have few field operations specialists, we have more of them. + Do not forget the most important principle of conducting all combat operations of our troops as a whole. HOMELAND is behind us! We can lose on foreign territory, and then only because of the betrayal of the highest circles of command. But never on their own land! In addition, one should not forget the People of Russia are the people of the Russian Empire, the People of the USSR, this is in our genetics, to win even when it is not realistic. And now our propaganda is healthy, correct, slightly embellished but correct. God forbid war, it's scary ... But let those who start it against us be even more afraid. For if the people get up "on the warpath", then they will stop only after they have washed themselves with the blood of their offenders.
So it was from time immemorial.

[nikcris]

"They have few field operations specialists, we have more."

What field activities are you going to conduct? Haymaking?

[tolyasik0577]

yeah, maybe they don’t have specialists in conducting military operations, and we don’t have all that good either. I remember how we behaved in Chechnya in the 95th, when boys died in packs due to the stupidity and shortsightedness of their generals. I hope that now we have at least restored the lost knowledge.

[Horly]

It would be more accurate to say about the first Chechen war - because of the betrayal of the then leaders, both political and military, especially among high-ranking officials. Well, the calculation of the Russian "maybe" also played an important role ...

[vch62388]

Quote: Yes, NATO is a strong and numerous adversary. But as many have said, this is an army of consumers.

The consumer army is not NATO troops, but our home-grown herds of office hamsters. To raise them to something more than screaming "Hurray!" an extremely remarkable effort is required.

Our opponents have "such healthy", strong armed forces, a good economy (they will object about their crisis and our rise - a lagging 10-grade student is more literate than an excellent student from the 6th grade) and a huge experience of information warfare.

Learn, study and study military affairs again in this way! (A compilation of two quotes from one dude)

[sinukvl]

I think that those who make decisions in Russia are very good at calculating the situation not by three, but by five, or even 10 steps forward. That Putin, that his advisers and colleagues in most cases come from the KGB, and these guys are very good at analyzing the situation and drawing conclusions, and then the necessary moves. It was always their work, their life, their service.

[Docent1984]

The second point is the widespread belief that the States, trying to tear Ukraine away, did not take into account Russia's reaction.

It seems that they did not take into account not the reaction of Russia, but the possible result. Most likely, in the same Crimea, they expected armed clashes, a large number of fooled people and conformists, in general, all kinds of problems for Russia. And they expected this, relying on the idea of ​​people in the image of their citizens, who have long forgotten how to think themselves. They really underestimated the desire of the Russians to live together. And the growing rejection of Western "values".

[rugor]

I agree with the article. But it must be admitted that there has not been any hatred in the ruling ranks of the Russian Federation, which is pleasing.

[ronin]

Given NATO’s superiority in military power

The question, of course, is controversial. In a fleeting conflict - yes, we will have a very hard time. In the long ... In the long, we will already have an advantage, insignificant and only due to the fact that we have very large stocks of obsolete weapons and ammunition. The war in Libya showed how quickly the French ran out of precision weapons. And we out of habit, a club!

[wot]

what clubs did you use

[kirieeleyson]

The classical war between Europe and Russia, even with the use by Europe of individual nuclear weapons units and retaliatory strikes by Russia, will in any case be regional in character, even if it is of wide scope. The NATO army does not have the resources and human resources to wage a war of annihilation, this organization has long been polished to work as part of individual local operations. Without the participation of the USA, NATO will not last even two weeks in the confrontation. But the United States will not be able to disown full participation in the global war. And here, the well-known response mechanisms are included. In general, how would we, comrades, not become stalkers under retirement)))))))

[nikcris]

What stupid person taught you pluses for delirium: "NATO will not last even two weeks in confrontation."; "even with the use of separate nuclear weapons by Europe and Russia's retaliatory strikes."
If I comment in detail on such things, they will ban me forever.

[kirieeleyson]

And you answer, here is a good platform for discussion. Let’s do this: consider the participation of European countries (NATO-under-NATO) without the United States and Russia. Who, no, not so .. what US base in Europe will start loading nuclear weapons into the B-52 and how quickly will France merge?
Who else there, besides the Melkobrit, can even oppose something?
Germany, where are 40 fighters in the Bundesfer or Poland, with our 000th artillery dug out by us still near Warsaw? Maybe Croatia, with its MiG-45BIS, is already in the amount of either 21 or 14 units :?) Seriously, there is no country in the European Union who will start hostilities against us, it’s easier for them to leave NATO day and day and meet winners, as it was at all times. Well, apart from the Swiss Mountain Huntsman of course

[nikcris]

Classic Knight, bl. In the classic war.
PS You will not become a Stalker - we will die.

[dik-fort]

And where is the analysis of the combat effectiveness of the European armed forces? Which EU citizens are ready to die for some kind of Ukraine? The Europeans delegated questions of their defense capabilities to the United States, and Germany, in fact, is still under occupation. At the moment, Europeans can only as jackals safely and with impunity for themselves to bomb countries like Libya or Yugoslavia.

[dmitriygorshkov]

Quote: dik-fort

Which EU citizens are ready to die for some kind of Ukraine?

Why are you just like small children, Ukraine, Ukraine!
It is said that in this game Ukraine is not even a pawn, it is a cell on this board!
This is only the crazy crazy Tyagnybok and his comrades can seriously say that the West treats them well and therefore will forgive debts! ...... there are no printed words from such narcissistic stupidity!

[Quantum]

The US dreams of a nuclear-free war with Russia. Indeed, we are inferior in
weapons volume, etc. However, US military analysts do not take into account such a factor as the consolidation of the Russian people, their deep historical ability to survive in very difficult conditions.
understand! Victory, even at a high price, will be ours.

[Alex]

Actually, it’s very similar to trying to provoke Russia to solve the problem by force. It is completely obvious that the West is directly pushing the junta to use the army to suppress the Southeast, which will inevitably force Russia to act. Is this being achieved?

[andrewvlg]

Quote: Ralex

It is obvious that the West is directly pushing the junta to use the army to suppress the Southeast, which will inevitably force Russia into action. Is this being achieved?

I agree, they are seeking the entry of Russian troops into the territory of Ukraine. Another way out of this situation with bothe greatest damage to Russia is not visible.
The article, of course, is a plus. But, I think, the author greatly exaggerates about the military clash between NATO and Russia. Yes, the Allies will never decide, since it is possible to use nuclear weapons in their territories.
But the reason to stifle economically is excellent. Plus a reason to show the Western electorate the "enemy" - that's, they say, all the troubles because of whom! Be patient, or the Russians will "devour" you. The United States will also use shale gas and will impose an embargo on Russia.
Large-scale economic blockade will throw our industry 20-30 years back. Accordingly, rearmament can be forgotten for a long time.
But far from the fact that this blockade will take place.

[97110]

In-in, how the industry of the USSR was discarded before the Second World War. I don’t remember how many years. Or we got everything for them to win. My grandfather, it is true that he fought on Matilda, but only machine guns were praised. And as for the suspension, it’s only obscene - dirt clogs the tracks and the tank does not go!

[nikcris]

And my uncle is only about the t-34. he burned in it three times. died at 83 years old.
Uncle Vasya did not remember the war at all.

[Orik]

Quote: Ralex

Actually, it’s very similar to trying to provoke Russia to solve the problem by force. It is completely obvious that the West is directly pushing the junta to use the army to suppress the Southeast, which will inevitably force Russia to act. Is this being achieved?

Yes, to declare us an "evil empire", to cut our international ties, weaken the economy and create discontent in Russia.

[dmitriygorshkov]

Quote: Orik

Yes, to declare us an "evil empire", to cut our international ties, weaken the economy and create discontent in Russia.

I agree! The goal at this stage seems to be the maximum weakening of Russia, and everything else is already further prospects ...

[Patriot.ru.]

According to the author, "The United States wants to play us off with Europe." With whom should we play off? Germany? Poland?, But what about NATO, where, by the way, and the United States is involved

[Sigizbarn]

Poland, as has happened more than once in history, will be the first in line to bite Russia.

[Wheel]

Quote: Sigizbarn

Poland, as has happened more than once in history, will be the first in line to bite Russia.

And, as has happened more than once in history, cease to exist as a state.
El is no longer running, but rake racing.

[Dwarfik]

Kind! It is very voluminous, because not all of Ukraine is important for Russia, at least in the current situation. The EU will not succeed in pushing Russia against Russia; Europe has the wrong military weight!

[andj61]

Be prepared for the worst case scenario ever. But still I can’t believe that this situation was specially created by archium Americans. They have a panic. If we did not immediately react to their shout, then they are already very surprised and fall into a stupor: why, because we are the coolest. But there is only one real alternative: either you accept all the events in the form in which they are currently taking place, or a nuclear conflict, because another alignment is not beneficial for us. Moreover, there is no difference whether it will be now, or after 2018, when the rearmament will be completed. All the same, the United States with its satellites is stronger in conventional weapons, it has more resources, people, weapons and equipment. Our trump cards are nuclear weapons and the unity of the nation. And for us, the threat of using nuclear weapons is the only chance of survival in this world.

[andrewvlg]

Quote: andj61

they are also panic. If we did not immediately react to their shout, then they are already very surprised and fall into a stupor: why, because we are the coolest. But there is only one real alternative: either you accept all the events in the form in which they are currently taking place, or a nuclear conflict, because another alignment is not beneficial for us. Moreover, there is no difference whether it will be now, or after 2018, when the rearmament will be completed.

I agree with you, except that "they have a panic." The author is just trying to convey the idea that their analysts calmly and soberly calculate the situation. And all these "emotions" are exclusively for the broad masses. And among the broad masses, I think, there is no panic yet.
I also want to note that the rearmament will not end either in 2018 or in 2025 .. God forbid, in 50-75 years we will "overtake" our "partners" in terms of the level and quality of all weapons. And we will be able to "catch up" in 25-30 years. Of course, there are domestic models of equipment that are quite "modern" now, but to be ahead in ALL indicators (except for the number, here China is beyond competition) dozens of years of intensive work are needed, and not 2018.

[konvalval]

The article, of course, is mostly correct, but as for nuclear weapons, I disagree. And do not compare the role of nuclear weapons in North Korea and the role of nuclear weapons in Russia. That being said, two big differences.

[Stepan Vict]

The calculation is not correct. In the event of a conflict with any of the NATO countries, nuclear weapons will be used by us immediately in full and for all NATO countries. And all the military know this. Therefore, one should not think that very cunning bugs are sitting in the USA and are trying to deceive us.

[volot-voin]

The GDP certainly has a lot of shortcomings, but it is far from stupid. The way he competently furnished a party with the Crimea. I hope that he also competently evaluates the strength of the enemy based on current realities. This is only why the troops of the Russian Federation are not yet in Donetsk, the party is being beaten up by the hands of local residents and this is competent. In a positive case, we could see NATO in the western and central regions of Ukraine.

[tnship2]

In Europe, the consolidation of peoples is not very visible. Rather, centrifugal forces have manifested themselves even more against the backdrop of economic difficulties. In such a situation, to put together an alliance to go to Russia? and most importantly for what? We haven’t fought with anyone, haven’t even fired a shot at them once. On the contrary, we strive to make money together with Europe, we have enormous interpenetration of business interests and take all this like that? Even in Ukraine, Russia is just defending itself but not aggressively attacking. Everything in my opinion rested just in the fucking rudiment of the Cold War, whose name is NATO. It just needs to justify its existence in the absence of the Warsaw Pact.

[mariya]

I agree with the author of the article - Russia is provoked to start hostilities, and pressure is put on the most "painful" points, on the Russian-speaking population in Ukraine. I rely with all my heart and soul on intelligence, wisdom, cunning, professionalism of VV (he showed himself to be a strong politician). And I hope for a peaceful solution to the issue.

[97110]

Reasonable, but. I really want to believe in some kind of inner conviction, a premonition of the Yankee's overestimation of their capabilities. Objectively, relying on known information, how can we be against them ... But why is there no doubt about what is needed. Yes, and how many times in history has this been - how much for us ... But it turned out that they really need it ... Warriors, you know. Only the French cause admiration. Well it is necessary for the entire 2WW, after less than a month of "heroic resistance" to lie moaning under the Germans and emerge among the winners. The Germans, after the work of the British aviation, also, I suppose, are not eager to dismantle the ruins again. The Poles remain. Yes, this is serious. Ambition, experience of sitting in the Kremlin, hatred for centuries. But the experience of the Volyn massacre did not disappear. So "don't bzdi, author, let's break through."

[nikcris]

Respect! Petushatniki pleased - and if you recall the pogrom of their fleet by the Admiralty, then in general the mood is improving)))

[Caucasian]

Military wisdom. Better to overtake than not to overtake.

[parusnik]

The situation with Ukraine reminds me of a provocation of Russia on military operations.... Here, here ... in July 1914 ... it was precisely with the provocation that the PMV began ... moreover, everyone understood that it was a provocation, but the mechanism directed against Russia had to be launched and started ... by the hand of G. Principle, they pulled in RI to the first world .. Now, a similar situation, knowing exactly knowing that Russia will not tolerate the infringement of the rights of the Russian-speaking population in Ukraine, the United States and its henchmen are trying to provoke Russia into military action ..

[mackonya]

I think there is no underestimation on the part of Russia (a collective image in this context uniting the head of state and government, as well as representatives of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and, of course, based on analytical data from intelligence and counterintelligence). Of course, the "pressure" from the US has always been and not necessarily directly, but through NATO countries (Germany, France, Turkey and Japan). But some underestimation on the part of opponents is noticeable in the Syrian problem with chemical. weapons and the Crimean referendum. Of course, we must not forget the main military truth "If everything goes perfectly in the offensive, then we have fallen into a trap", but it was not perfect. At every stage of the Ukrainian crisis, there was a "hot" confrontation between Russia and the EU and the United States, let us recall, for example, the statement of Barack Obama that "military intervention in Ukraine will cost Russia dearly." Of course, everyone knows that B. Obama and A. Merkel are only "lobbying" the interests of transatlantic corporations, but V.V. Putin also represents someone's interests.

[Vladycat]

In general, the article is a plus. The very beginning was alarming by the constant waving of flags and patriotic cries (we will tear everyone). I really hope that we really began to approach politics in a balanced manner, taking into account our interests.
But remember the classics: The laws of Chisholm (Murphy)


When things go well, something should happen in the very near future.
Consequences:
When things go worse nowhere, in the very near future they will go even worse.
If it seems to you that the situation is improving, then you haven’t noticed something.

People understand any proposals differently than the one who makes them.
Consequences:
Even if your explanation is so clear that it excludes any false interpretation, there will still be a person who will misunderstand you.
If you are sure that your action will be universally approved, someone will definitely not like it.

[Energy]

as E. Letov used to say: "Everything is going according to plan."

[ed65b]

Our new strategist, Sergey Nikolaevich. But donkeys are sitting in the General Staff, and the president and his advisers went for a walk like that. I will not even comment on an article from the category just to strike out, the author forgot about the simple movement of troops and their concentration in the pre-war period. who will fight? hordes of ninja rush out of the teleport on the border?

[Kite]

".... I also hope that those who make decisions in the Russian army are far from the childish enthusiasm of bloggers ... "
Nikolaich, decisions are not made in the army - this is one, but two - of course, the average level of development and awareness of the mass of bloggers is much lower than that of people who make decisions at the state level of government, plus the responsibility not only for actions, but also for words is not at all comparable from bloggers and top management officials. Only we in the comments do not know the true rulers of the West, but we are surprised at the level of dementia of the "clowns" who represent them. Whatever this clownery means, our decisions will not become an emotional response, but will be reasonable.

[Tiamat2702]

The author, turn on the brain, your conclusions are simply illogical. Article minus. And I won’t give many reasons, one is enough, but significant: neither the USA nor the EU (I mean those people who really have control levers in their hands) have no guarantees that the Russian Federation will not use nuclear weapons as a response to the beginning NATO non-nuclear military confrontation. In the meantime, there are no guarantees, and there will be no ordinary non-nuclear war, since Russia (unlike the DPRK) is fully capable of effectively using its potential strategic nuclear forces.

[mamont5]

"Do you really believe that people in the US make decisions with little understanding of geography and prone to hysteria?"

No, of course, but who told you that people behind them cannot be mistaken? They are the same flesh and if smarter than officials, this does not mean that they better assess the situation. They make enough mistakes now and earlier, incl. hat-making, of course, is not necessary, but you should not shy away from them either.

"These measures are initially unable to force Russia to change its position, but are clearly designed to provoke it into an armed conflict."
Yes, I agree, but our leadership is still holding on and God forbid the rebels of the Southeast will not fail and will be able to survive themselves.

"this is a widespread opinion that the United States, trying to tear away Ukraine, did not take into account the reaction of Russia. Are you serious? After Russia behaved in the situation with Syria, the very last housewife could have foreseen such a reaction from Moscow to the situation in Ukraine, not to speak of NATO military analysts. "
Yes, they could easily ignore. They have the same worldview as the official leaders of the United States. Frantic conceit and a clear underestimation of Russia. And again, not the first time.

"Given NATO's superiority in military strength, there is no point in waiting for Russia to strengthen its troops. The further, the less chances of defeating Russia in an armed conflict. Why wait for 2018, when the modernization of the army is completed? It is better to provoke a conflict now ..."
They probably want to provoke a conflict, but they themselves will definitely not participate in it. The gut is thin. They need to strike us in the international arena, isolate us. And to fight ... They too love life and themselves.

[plotnikov561956]

I put a minus to the correct article ... for one simple reason, it’s not very far from the kitchen belfry .. and the analysts haven’t let us down yet ... what can I say ...

[AVIATOR36662]

I want to support the comrade and add that while the slow "work" of the Russian Foreign Ministry is going on in the international arena and between Ukraine and the Russian Federation, the positions of the Donetsk People's Republic and the positions of the Army of the South-East are significantly strengthened. And all this is a prerequisite for a good "game completion", developed by our analysts, of course, taking into account all local and temporal nuances.

[Deff]

Given NATO’s superiority in military power, it makes no sense to wait for Russia to strengthen its forces. The farther, the less chance of defeating Russia in armed conflict. Why wait for 2018 of the year when the modernization of the army is completed? It’s better to provoke a conflict now by hooking on a living thing. And what could be more important for Russia than Ukraine?

I think that NATO will be followed by notification of a tactical nuclear strike on NATO bases in Europe. For do not meddle with the orange revolutions in the zone of interests of Russia.
And then the States should react in direct contact without NATO, the UN, etc.
For the real confrontation is the USA - the Russian Federation.
Ukraine’s return is the shutdown of the pipe in the EU, collapse.
Well, or abruptly moving everything to the East - we give Moscow.

[felix34]

GRANDFATHER
My dad also said: WHO CONSIDERS THE ENEMY STUPID, THAT IS THE STUPID ENEMY.

[dikir-77]

I agree with the author, the mood about the decaying west is too strong. But only few people remember that the same mood was in the USSR, how it ended is known.
The West can rot even calmly and quietly for another 100 years, and we will also scream about our coolness.
Another point, Russia is only responding to the set-ups of the West, albeit very worthily, and does not introduce the ball into the game.
This is defense, and wars are won only by offensive.
The power of NATO and Russia is incomparable, and we must not forget about it, they are still too far ahead.
I am also annoyed by the current situation, because now, as in 41, there is an active rearmament, is this a coincidence?

[mamont5]

Quote: dikir-77

But only few people remember that the same mood was in the USSR, what ended up being known.

Nevertheless, now many economists say that only the rapid collapse of the USSR, largely provoked from the outside, gave the West a respite and allowed it to live a relatively comfortable quarter of a century. But all when it ends. Moreover, with its social policy, the West itself drives itself into a dead end.

[AVIATOR36662]

There is no need to strain the situation so much. NATO has no options to really intervene on this issue. Like 08.08.08. Just as it has already trained law enforcement officers and the Security Service of Ukraine with its instructors and the CIA. The result of the Maidan coup is already in the form of Crimea and will still be in the form of other preferences .And we will survive the sanctions from NATO for Russia in the form of another freezing of contacts.

[Stalevar]

An excellent article, for many, as a bucket of cold water, and a reason to soberly reflect on the situation. Everything is just beginning and I want only one thing - that would be enough wisdom for our politicians in the most complicated struggle of interests, a struggle that can cost the world dearly!

[Tiamat2702]

And one more thing, our life is a game. It is not always possible to calculate the reaction to certain actions of one person. What can we say about an entire state, as huge as Russia....

[subbtin.725]

excellent article, analysts must work, the future of the country and the entire Russian world is at stake. Glory to RUSSIA!

[kondor-espada]

The article is definitely good but...

Quote: Scary ensign

If the United States wanted to seriously solve the Korean problem, they would solve it using the Libyan option.

Here I don’t agree much, firstly, North Korea is a completely different country than Libya. In Libya, the states found significant support in the opposition, and through it they resorted to overthrowing the government, in North Korea there is no such opposition, which means the states cannot escalate the conflict there . And the second is here - a quote from the article:
“Given NATO’s superiority in military strength, there is no point in waiting for Russia to strengthen its troops. The further it goes, the less chance there is of defeating Russia in an armed conflict. Why wait until 2018, when the modernization of the army is completed? It’s better to provoke a conflict now, hitting a nerve " I think so, and probably many will agree with me. The most LIVING thing for us is the escalation of Fascism in a country where half the population is Russian people - we know what fascism is. It’s the mattresses that catch us for this, these damn “psychologists” know that Russians are not when they will no longer allow fascism either in their country or in countries close to Russia. Only they don’t think that after the overthrow of the junta in Kiev, we can seriously deal with the states themselves, and then I don’t know what will be left of them!

[siberalt]

Comrade Grinev Sergey Nikolaevich! Your head is a mess. Start with the rules of written Russian. And explain what a “philistine” is, who thinks, but somehow it’s wrong.
And if the people of Russia in “genetics” are from the USSR, then this is simply a masterpiece! Is this from crossing dandelions or "Peking"?
Well, damn it, maybe, at over 60 and with two Soviet higher education degrees, I should try to pass the Unified State Exam? Although, what the hell is not joking.

[siberalt]

Just to clarify. 70 years of the USSR is not the millennia-long genesis of Russian civilization. But a wealth of experience for further reorganization of the world. This is our danger to neo-slave owners. This is where they will die.
But in fact, the second stage of the second mid-20th century began. Then he went through the slogan of eliminating colonial dependence. And now, at the heart of the world-wide corruption from the United States, the term colony has been replaced with “democracy” under the roof of NATO. Profits have also increased by orders of magnitude. But who among them doesn’t want a free hamburger from starving African children?

[vsoltan]

But for me, paranoid motives creep into the author’s concept.....I agree that US analysts are not slurping cabbage soup....at the same time, they also understand perfectly well that, in principle, there will be NO full-scale war between the Russian Federation and the Western community maybe.... not the same interest in this case.... just another shaking of brass knuckles and tearing of a shirt on the chest..... "oh, hold me, right now I'm going to hit him!"..... Complete nonsense. ....the Americans just need to “sell” Europe their widely advertised shale gas and oil, which no one wants to buy, since the cost of their production is approximately 3 times higher......and push the Russian Federation away from the sales market.... that's the whole story. Ukraine is just an artificially imposed reason.

[KazakPatrol]

The article is correct, there is something to think about and puzzle everyone at all levels.

[mamont5]

“All analysts agree that time is working against the West in every sense. What is the point and what should they expect? Wait for Russia to make a breakthrough in the Arctic, to move away from the petrodollar...”
By the way, a possible reason for the aggravation of the situation is precisely that Russia has again announced the possibility of moving away from the dollar. It is possible that it is precisely the refusal of this that the United States is trying to bargain for a warming of the situation.

“...I hope that those who make decisions in the Russian army are far from the childish enthusiasm of bloggers and can adequately assess all possible options for the development of events and avoid all the traps of our “Western partners.”
I really hope so too.

[Coffee_time]

Quote: Farmason

Article plus. But there is one small "but"! History has taught us two main rules. If they start to beat us, we endure until we have enough patience, and then we give back so that they don't have time to wash the blood. The second lesson, "Whoever comes to us with a sword will die by the sword!" This phrase of Victory was said by our ancestor Alexander Nevsky.
Yes, NATO is a strong and numerous enemy. But as many have said this is an army of consumers. They have few field operations specialists, we have more of them. + Do not forget the most important principle of conducting all combat operations of our troops as a whole. HOMELAND is behind us! We can lose on foreign territory, and then only because of the betrayal of the highest circles of command. But never on their own land! In addition, one should not forget the People of Russia are the people of the Russian Empire, the People of the USSR, this is in our genetics, to win even when it is not realistic. And now our propaganda is healthy, correct, slightly embellished but correct. God forbid war, it's scary ... But let those who start it against us be even more afraid. For if the people get up "on the warpath", then they will stop only after they have washed themselves with the blood of their offenders.
So it was from time immemorial.

[Cossacks]

As I understand it, we are not talking about a world war, but some kind of local conflict, say over Ukraine. It is difficult for me to imagine anyone who would decide to use tactical or operational-tactical nuclear weapons in this situation. The question of the balance of forces in conventional weapons can be read on Wikipedia. As they say, no comment.

[All1]

Enemies will be called enemies, not “partners”, I’m tired of this hypocrisy!

[Monk]

1. Don't say gop until you jump.

2. Do not share the skin of an unkilled bear.

I agree only if these proverbs refer to the West, and not to Russia.

[leon17]

The modern United States has never had such a serious enemy. They act according to established stereotypes, and these stereotypes are known. They have serious problems - the house of cards begins to sway. The author correctly noted: they are in a hurry.

[52]

Quote: rugor

I agree with the article. But it must be admitted that there has not been any hatred in the ruling ranks of the Russian Federation, which is pleasing.

I also agree with the article, but I’m terribly afraid that our oligarchic business might stir up something nasty. The Motherland is what it is, but Tugriks always come first for this public.

[Nonik]

The United States expects to push Europe against Russia, and will get involved at the last stage, when both sides are drained of blood.

You never know what they are counting on, but Europe not only doesn’t care about the war - it will resist with all its hands and feet. If he doesn’t even want to introduce any sanctions, except ridiculous ones, then what can we say about war. Unless there is a reason that you can’t argue against - for example, Russia will be the first to hit everyone at once. In general, the article calls for the usual caution in actions, which is understandable.
However, everything is clear with Europe; it will never go to war if it doesn’t back it up. But there are some concerns with Turkey... It arbitrarily went against Syria. Syria, when it finally kills the militants, will probably remember this. And away we go... Behind Turkey is NATO, behind Syria is Russia, and probably also China and India. This is what needs to be avoided.

[denosaur]

America has NEVER fought an enemy who, at least theoretically, could completely destroy it. But Europe was already at war. I think both will draw appropriate conclusions...

[Ross]

Personally, the situation with the pressure of Russia painfully reminds me of the pressure on Japan on the eve of Pearl Harbor. These measures are initially incapable of forcing Russia to change its position, but are clearly intended to provoke it into an armed conflict.

Many facts confirm the author's thoughts. Look, for example, at how the UN Security Council behaved today. He fully supported Ukraine! This suggests that the United States is rallying the West against Russia. And the fact that the head of the CIA ordered the start of a suppression operation, most likely he perfectly understood the capabilities of the junta, but he needed a picture of Russian aggression to rally Europe against Russia. It’s not for nothing that today “suddenly” Switzerland (!!!!!, a neutral country that has not fought for hundreds of years) told Europe that it needs to prepare for war! (More details here: http://warfiles.ru/show-52380-shveycariya-prizyvaet-evropeyskie-strangotovitsya-
k-voyne.html). Apparently Obama and Co. are “not convincing” for Europe; the latter does not want to spoil relations with Russia. So the author is right, Europe is being put in check through the crisis in Ukraine. Russia must move forward with a graceful game and pull Europe into its camp. There are examples, look at how Slovakia responded to Ukraine’s request for gas reversal.

[Stalingrad]

Everyone knows that on the battlefield the best way to lure the enemy into an ambush is to simulate a retreat. Listen to the song by Igor Rasteryaev: “Russian roads”, read about Cossack lava - everything is described as the author writes. I completely agree with him. It's time to move away from euphoria and start thinking about what will happen tomorrow.

[Andrey82]

Yes, our Western “partners” have been behaving very suspiciously in recent weeks. These constant statements demanding that Russia withdraw its troops from the Ukrainian border (just think, they order us where we can place troops and where we can’t!). This hysteria about the possible aggression of “authoritarian” Russia against “freedom-loving” Ukraine is like an invitation for us to get in there without hesitation, in one fell swoop. Apparently, the plans of our “partners” in the event of Russia’s use of peacekeeping forces (I am perplexed by the use even in our media of the term “sending troops” to spite the West) in the east of Ukraine have long been prepared and they only need our inept actions to implement them.
Russophobia, whipped up by the West in recent months, has now reached its peak. And in the event of an immediate “deployment” (of Spanish peacekeeping forces), they will scream in every possible way - “Look, we warned you, these Russians seized Crimea, and now they continue their barbaric aggression against other regions of Ukraine.”
Transfer of new US military forces to the East. In Europe, they clearly intend to take control of at least all of Western Ukraine if something happens. In this case, they will act in concert with Poland, possibly Germany.
The United States is probably desperately trying to make us a “Second Afghanistan.” Only this time, instead of the Mujahideen, Bandera nationalists, fueled by money and weapons from our Western “partners,” should come forward. It would be useful to remind that the ideology of Banderaism from the west of Ukraine has long spread to the cities and villages of central Ukraine. So far, only the South-East of Ukraine is relatively free from this infection.
Thus, in the current situation in Ukraine, Russia must act as carefully as possible, using all available methods to support the people of the South-East who have rebelled against the junta. The use of peacekeepers is possible only in the most extreme case - the genocide of the Russian population of the South-East by Bandera's followers.

[maestro123]

To do this you need to know and study history!

The Trojan horse can always stand at our borders.
Just like the rake by the barn.

Nobody canceled their vigilance

[1536]

I agree with the author. Instead of counting how many Americans and Europeans have ships, planes, and how many anti-ship and anti-aircraft missiles and systems we have to hit them, and how they themselves are protected from defeat, on TV they talk about “rusty American nuclear missiles” and “complete coverage by our fire of the Black Sea." Hence the euphoria in RuNet. We have seen the Americans and NATO fighting for two decades now. Bombing, complete destruction of infrastructure: roads, communications, bribery of officials, reliance on renegades - the “fifth column”. And today we have a lot of mischief and a mass rally on Sunday to “defend freedom of speech” in Moscow. Modern weapons make it possible to demoralize the enemy’s manpower without destroying it in the usual sense for us (i.e. en masse). And most importantly, in the information war that has already been unleashed against us and is in full swing, I would not say that we are winning. Can today's meeting of the UN Security Council be called a victory? But we have no reaction from the government. Or rather, I read that an exhibition of photographs of our Prime Minister has opened in Tokyo... And an information attack is the first phase of a war against one state or another. I am not a coward, but I remember well what my grandmother, who survived the war in the city of Tula, told me: “God saved Tula. A famous holy fool in the city said that the Germans would not break through to Tula.” Then, however, she added that she saw volleys of several dozen Katyusha rockets hitting the positions of these same Germans in the night, who were already roaming around the outskirts. But faith in God's provision remained unshakable.

[Little Muck]

The article is good.
But even I, a simple man in the street, analyzing recent events, suggested an impending war in the border areas with Russia (about two weeks before the seizure of power in Kyiv). But I did not study in the KGB or FSB.
Believe me, everything has been on the table for a long time. And even the time was probably known (it’s not for nothing that our intelligence service eats its bread, for which we thank you very much).
The game develops according to all the rules of the game (master class) of grandmasters. The pawns are reduced to nothing, but there are still important pieces. Silence while thinking about a move contributes to a clearer analysis of the situation.
The enemy screams, scatters broken pieces - in a word, panic.
Let's wait for the decisive move.
I am for Russia.

[Giant thought]

None of the NATO Europeans will fight in Ukraine because of Ukraine, because this is associated with huge losses. And the local politicians who are in power still want to be in power, but thousands of coffins from the Ukrainian front will put an end to their political career. The Germans, who have the most combat-ready army in Europe, received a historical inoculation from “Drang nach Osten”, so their way here is barred. The Balts with their mighty armies - laughter through tears. Psheks will not climb alone, they are not suicides. In addition, we warned them that if things got worse for us, we would use nuclear weapons. Do they need a deserted, radioactive Europe? No. Therefore there will be no big war.

[Diter]

I very much doubt that the United States makes independent decisions. The intelligence of their public politicians raises vague doubts. Most likely, decisions are made by others - the Bilderberg Club, the Trilateral Commission, etc. Our dear, beloved Chubais is a member of the Bilderberg Club, and it’s good if he’s the only one in Russia. I believe that it is this fifth column that poses the greatest danger to Russia.

[APS]

Every noble cause involves risk.
In critical times, people can save their lives only by risking them.
I didn't write this, but I have nothing to add.

[Colonel]

It is not correct to compare Ukraine and Pearl Harbor. As they say in Odessa, these are two big differences. What I agree with the author about is that we won’t throw hats at them. And on the third side, should we sit and watch carefully???

[Grandfather Victor]

I hope that we still have something very effective from Soviet developments that the Americans are not aware of. A kind of fig in your pocket...

[Akulina]

I liked the article, but this once again proves that if it is obvious to us, ordinary citizens of Russia, that euphoria and mischief in such a difficult situation are inappropriate, then the Government has even more so calculated the maximum possible number of options. Now I have begun to pay more attention to publications that contain information about the state of the American economy, disagreements within political unions - not everything is clear there either. Another thing is that the time for global geopolitical changes has come - it will not be possible to hide your head under your wing. Who would have thought that Ukraine would be the trigger....

[oxotnuk86]

Article+. I believe that V.V.P. and his team have their finger on the pulse, there will be no failures.

[Registrar]

The author is RIGHT!
All the World is a Stage
And a people are players!
(it seems so)
"Slade", 1976.

Victory will be for those who know the enemy's next move!
DON'T FAIL VP!

[VladimirD]

I think Obama has stopped keeping up with everything (not Obama, of course, but the one who controls him). They are in Ukraine and Crimea is already ours, and we and the Chinese are agreeing on gas supplies, they are in China, and we are training paratroopers in the Arctic. They are with the Emirates about oil to come to an agreement, and ours were already there! Disruptions are beginning in Europe. Some people stop thinking like Americans. You can’t keep track of everything. Well, of course, there’s no need to relax.

[Orik]

The author is fundamentally right, the Ukrainian crisis is a trap, but he is too straightforward in his assumptions. NO Geyropa-Russia conflict “and the involvement of the United States at the last stage, when both sides will be drained of blood” is not possible, Geyropa was not able to pull Libya, let alone Russia this is from the realm of fantasy. NATO's main potential is the United States.
The main task of the Ukrainian crisis is the maximum isolation of Russia, the weakening of our economy and the organization of internal protest. Russia, no matter who is in power (with the exception of outspoken liberals), cannot give Little Russia to the Atlantic civilization because in the medium term, within 10-20 years, we will have a Janissary state on our border, which will be aggressive towards us. Putting order by Russia in Little Russia, where an active, anti-Russian community has already formed, could cause an armed conflict. which will be used by the United States for maximum isolation of Russia with all the consequences.
Our task is to walk the line, keep Little Russia in Russia’s orbit and not get drawn into an armed conflict. Federalization is a very good tool (although Lukashenko is right, he will destroy the current Ukrainian state), which will gradually reunite our people. The situation in Little Russia will invariably worsen and the number of regions that are seeing the light and striving for Russia will constantly grow. And then, Pi.ndostan weakens and at a certain moment will not be able to oppose anything to the unification of the UNITED RUSSIAN PEOPLE.

[asar]

In any case, you can’t relax! Conduct exercises of all branches of the military more often, raise the military-industrial complex! But the West cannot be discounted! You can be ironic about - Well, Stupid! But you have to constantly keep them on target! Against the backdrop of our successes, the potential enemy will not become kinder!

[VNP1958PVN]

The difference is that they are quietly trying to make money, and we are trying for the brotherly people, even to our own detriment... Only the brothers are in an incomprehensible frenzy. The hangover will be severe...

[Horly]

Quote: Ross

Personally, the situation with the pressure of Russia painfully reminds me of the pressure on Japan on the eve of Pearl Harbor. These measures are initially incapable of forcing Russia to change its position, but are clearly intended to provoke it into an armed conflict.

Many facts confirm the author's thoughts. Look, for example, at how the UN Security Council behaved today. He fully supported Ukraine! This suggests that the United States is rallying the West against Russia. And the fact that the head of the CIA ordered the start of a suppression operation, most likely he perfectly understood the capabilities of the junta, but he needed a picture of Russian aggression to rally Europe against Russia. It’s not for nothing that today “suddenly” Switzerland (!!!!!, a neutral country that has not fought for hundreds of years) told Europe that it needs to prepare for war! (More details here: http://warfiles.ru/show-52380-shveycariya-prizyvaet-evropeyskie-strangotovitsya-

k-voyne.html). Apparently Obama and Co. are “not convincing” for Europe; the latter does not want to spoil relations with Russia. So the author is right, Europe is being put in check through the crisis in Ukraine. Russia must move forward with a graceful game and pull Europe into its camp. There are examples, look at how Slovakia responded to Ukraine’s request for gas reversal.

In the modern world, there are de facto no neutral countries - everyone is one way or another aligned with one side. Because in the global world everything is divided into spheres of influence and maintaining neutrality (real, not on paper) becomes simply impossible

[HAM]

There’s no need to throw hats in the air, I agree with the author, but... why did Crimea come as a surprise to all the CIA, NSA, etc.? It’s clear that we didn’t do anything with our fingers, let there be results, and we can chat .

[tokin1959]

I agree with the author on one thing, on the main thing - You shouldn’t seriously count on the stupidity of the enemy.
but regarding the ease of the US dealing with North Korea - no.
A thorn in the form of an aggressive, impoverished and dictatorial North. Nobody needs Korea, but for the existence of the North. Korea is a blessing, otherwise American bases will be very close.
They will not deal easily - half of the population of North Korea will run away with joy, and the other half will fight with fanaticism until their last breath, and if they also fire an atomic bomb, the entire Korean peninsula will be uninhabitable. The problems of refugees, the collapse of South Korean industrial giants - this could collapse the world economy for a long time.
Regarding provoking Russia into a military conflict with NATO right now - it’s unlikely.
The Americans clearly did not expect that Crimea would fall away from Ukraine in less than a month.
By changing the leadership in Kyiv, they hoped to gradually expel the Black Sea Fleet and gradually accept it into NATO, i.e. separate Ukraine from Russia forever, then continue to act according to the situation, and preferably without military action, because in the event of a full-scale war, Europe will get it badly.
and there is more than enough scope for action and scenarios for the collapse of Russia.
download the same topic of Islamic fundamentalism in the republics of Russia - and everything will work out.
and now they are acting according to the situation - the opportunity has arisen to pit Ukraine against Russia.
they don’t care who wins, the main thing is that the Slavs will destroy each other with their own hands.

[lance]

everything is walking around, but here are some interesting thoughts: Ukraine is a second Afghanistan, take Ukraine to your detriment, and don’t make me laugh about military operations with the EU. I guarantee the victory of the Russian Federation - have we lost general mobilization? or have former pilots and tank crews (not talking about the missile forces) forgotten how to control them - and you think Europe doesn’t know this? We spent $4 billion on Ukraine in 34 years. with the annexation of Crimea, it became easier to live in your regions, the Olympics, the summit, now Ukraine, even SE, if you add all this up and put it on one Russian Federation, it will become easier for us to live - no. That’s why we now benefit from federation rather than annexation. In five years, the center and west of Ukraine will also sober up. but Ukraine itself must pull itself out of the swamp. For stabilization, it may be necessary to bring in Russian troops, but after that they must be withdrawn just as quickly. For America, with a hanging currency, this whole swarm is only a benefit.

[Provincial_71]

The article is definitely a plus. But no defeatist sentiments! Ukraine is not Afghanistan. This is our topic. We'll tear your throat.

[nstarinsky]

I agree with the general tone of the article. But I want to note that there is a certain “cowboy” mentality in US politics. This means that the puppeteers behind the scenes are not so deeply calculating the consequences. Just look at several hot spots, such as Iran and Afghanistan, where plans have completely failed. Both countries are plunged into the abyss of internal war and US authority there is at its lowest level. Today there is a policy of a pause on the part of Russia. It seems that the loser in this conflict will ultimately be the one who sheds blood first. I hope the puppeteers understand this well.

[vasyliy1]

I believe that there is no need to rush to bring the Russian army into Ukraine, it is necessary to support the pro-Russian forces with money, advisers, weapons and volunteers; the army should be brought in only as a last resort when there is a threat of NATO troops entering. The revolutionary situation in Ukraine is still only gaining momentum at the moment you need to wait and carefully watch your enemies.

[wbigfire]

If you remember, dear visitors of this forum, then at the beginning of the Ukrainian mess, i.e. at the end of November and beginning of December last year, the GDP called what was happening a false start. Consequently, the Kremlin foresaw such a development of events, with the only difference that all this should have happened against the backdrop of preparations for the elections and the presidential elections in Ukraine at the end of 2014. Therefore, I think the GDP has prepared for such games, with the exception of such a quick annexation of Crimea to Russia. I also believe that the further development of the situation is still under his control. Good luck to Russia and its friends in this confrontation with the West.

[upasika1918]

You won't intimidate us...

[de bouillon]

Moreover, in the eastern regions of Ukraine there are many opponents of federalization. The saddest thing is that Ukrainians from the east, who took a negative position towards the Maidan in the light of recent events, are, on the contrary, actively moving to an anti-Russian plane. One could say that there is a division of the eastern population along national lines: Ukrainians (for an indivisible and integral Ukraine, which is understandable, we would do the same ourselves) and Russians (some of whom are uniting with Russia or for some kind of federation).

Moreover, yesterday they again “advertised” Yanukovych on Russian TV, which in my opinion is a deep mistake of the Russian authorities. All the same, this parasite is a political corpse and does not cause anything else among Ukrainians except vomiting and hatred.

[tokin1959]

Yanyk immediately had to be pulled out of his pocket - every day - the junta has his - and he has his.
and in their speeches emphasize the illegitimacy of the junta and their orders.

[Sledgehammer]

The article is a plus, but my opinion is not about any armed clash (Moscow-West).
The West needs to expose Russia as an aggressor and isolate it from Europe, making it an outcast.
There will be no entry of troops into Ukraine, under any pretext, but any other assistance to it
must be provided by Russia.

[Russki]

Does this Club of the Three Hundreds really exist? Or is this a ghost like Bin Laden? After all, no matter how much you encrypt, sooner or later everything will be revealed, but here there are only arguments.

[Counter]

Quote: Humen

I hope our leaders are calculating the steps and consequences. Recently, too many Europe and the United States have yielded, which in itself is strange. Either they are really so weak, or they are preparing something. But it’s better to be prepared for the worst than bite your elbows later.

They are greatly weakened. At least the USA. In external manifestations these are powerful aircraft carriers and militant rhetoric. And inside the country there is trash. I had the opportunity to observe this in person. Hence the public hysteria. But this spurs them on to aggressive actions, like little rats driven into a corner. Of course, you have to keep your ears open. But I am sure that the leadership of our country understands this.

[serge]

It would be strange to think that the Americans planned the failures in Syria and Crimea in advance. They simply became insolent to such an extent that they did not count on opposition at all. Yes, the Americans have the strongest army in the world. But in Ukraine, everything must be done by the hands of the natives under the wise leadership of the CIA. But Gene Sharp’s scheme failed again after Syria. Since the Americans have been working under the orange scheme borrowed from the British Empire for a hundred years, the next step should be the outbreak of a civil war according to the Syrian scenario. But here the Americans will break down again. The Galitsai and the Hutsuls are not Muslim fanatics and will try to avoid a serious military clash. But you can’t bring Arab mercenaries to Ukraine en masse. As for Russia's direct conflict with NATO, this is a clear exaggeration. The Ukrainian conflict is already six months old; the parties have calculated their steps in advance and declared their reluctance to engage in a military clash. A military clash with Russia was hardly the goal of the Americans. The main goal of the Americans is to maintain the dollar as the only oil currency. Why do you need to bring down your competitor’s economy? Didn't it work to drag Ukraine into NATO and blackmail Russia with a direct military threat? The tactics have changed, now they are trying to drag the competitor into a protracted conflict, which will serve as a pretext for an economic war. Economic war in this case is an attempt to resolve one’s interests when it is impossible to defend them by military means.

[nikkon09]

In fact, in any case, Russia can remain in the black, be it a war or a peaceful solution to the Ukrainian issue, it seems that Putin has finally created a capable administration that can defend the interests of the country. Well, as for the global war, it seems that some hotheads are striving for it.

[Oml]

Putin now needs special wisdom and restraint on his part.

[Fantazer911]

I completely agree with the author of the article, it’s obvious that the Americans and the junta are preparing a trap for Russia, and there is no other opinion here, only how they want to pull it off is a question, and this is no longer a game of chess, but more serious chess where several players only play on the same board on the one hand, and double or maybe triple pawns using secret passages and behind-the-scenes enemies and traitors.