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How do we avoid the "Crimean Kondopoga"

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How do we avoid the "Crimean Kondopoga"Russian central authority should stop flirting with the Crimean Tatars


While the Crimea was part of the self-proclaimed Ukrainian Republic, it was its problem. Reunited with Russia, he may be a problem for Russia.

And this will happen solely through the fault of the Russian authorities. Because the inhabitants of the Crimea did not want to reunite with Russia in order to provide preferences to those who are called the Crimean Tatars (the mood prevailing among the Russian population of Crimea can be read here. - Note KM.RU).

The conflict with the latter smoldered for two decades, including because it was cultivated by the Ukrainian authorities, creating the Crimean Tatars resettled here to counterbalance the Russian-Ukrainian population of Crimea, just like in Ukraine itself, the same authorities created a counterbalance to the Russians and Ukrainians from the Westerners.

During the March events, the indigenous people of Crimea almost unanimously supported reunification with Russia. The Crimean Tatars (more precisely, the leaders monopolizing their representation) tried to disrupt the very voting on this issue.

But now the Crimean authorities, and especially Russia, are clearly pursuing a kind of policy of appeasing the aggressor, that is, a policy of appeasing those who consider themselves the leaders of this not quite correctly defined community.

The language of the Crimean Tatars declared one of the state languages ​​of the Crimea. Although by all international standards, it could claim only the status of a regional language. Although it is - a relative trifle.

For the leaders of the Crimean Tatars are fixed quotas in the executive and, obviously, the local legislative power, but this was announced in advance, and as a gesture of political correctness this can be taken: a society of diversity is a society of diversity. In Dagestan, quotas are fixed to a dozen ethnic groups.

But, firstly, a clear course was taken to legally consolidate the Crimean Tatars of the land self-seized by them over the past quarter century.

Secondly, there is reason to believe that the current authorities have already tacitly agreed to seize their historical and cultural sites. So, according to incoming information, the Bakhchisarai Museum has already been captured and its Russian-speaking director has been displaced in a rather incorrect form.

Thirdly, the law on the rehabilitation of the Crimean Tatars is being prepared. It is clear that since Putin had promised to consider this issue, he will most likely be accepted in one form or another. It is clear that this is a kind of political payment for the expected loyalty.

The question is still in what form it will be adopted, whether it should be accepted from the point of view of not the political situation, but historical the truth. Since today the development of the bill is, according to a number of data, with the conscious exclusion of historians who understand the essence of the moment. And if the law turns out to be similar to those adopted in the late 1990s, it will only cause tension in society and additional dissatisfaction with the government and its next concession to the generation of “whistleblowers of totalitarianism”.

Fourthly, there is an intention to assign the status of the indigenous people of Crimea to the Crimean Tatars. For Russians and Ukrainians living in Crimea, this is a direct insult, because it automatically declares them exactly by those who they are declared in Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, and sometimes in Ukraine, occupiers and descendants of the occupiers.

If the indigenous people of Crimea are Crimean Tatars, then who are Russians and Ukrainians? Conquerors, two hundred years ago, captured the Crimea.

And the intense reaction to this in the Crimea is already beginning to mature. Of course, the Crimean Tatars in Crimea 12%. But Russians - more than 60%, and Ukrainians - about a quarter. And they fought for the reunification of the Crimea, and they intend to give the status of "indigenous" to those who actively opposed their struggle.

The central elite of Russia has always had a certain flaw in this respect: it preferred to give more and more to love not its friends in certain reunited or liberated regions of Russia, but its enemies, believing that friends would remain friends anyway, and the enemies should be appeased. And very often it ended badly for herself.

The same begins to happen in Crimea. And if the Russian and modern Crimean authorities start thinking more about the Tatars than about the Russians, and believe that democracy is the protection of minority rights, the majority will remind them of the opposite: that democracy is, first of all, the fulfillment of the will of the majority .

And then Russia will receive the Crimean Kondopoga. And the Crimean Pugachev. And the Crimean Manege. And the Crimean Biryulyovo ... The gloating of Russia's external opponents on this issue will be provided.

Today, Crimea is one and a half million voters who are ready to vote in elections only for Putin and for no one else. And these are hundreds of thousands of people who are ready to pick up if necessary. weapondefending both Russia and Putin.

And if someone after some time tries to arrange in Russia a new “swamp” or his “Maidan”, the Crimeans will not even have to specially organize: they will get under their own way to devour the crowd. Because today in Crimea, Putin is God.

And to change it for the controversial pacification of the Tatars (even if only for the pleasure of Turkey) is not very constructive.

If we talk about rehabilitation in relation to the Crimean Tatars, then we must speak the truth to the end. Yes, people should not be responsible for centuries for the crimes of their ancestors. Yes, not all Crimean Tatars served the Nazis. But then it must be said about the scale of the mass service acquired by them, and that the SS men were sometimes terrified of what the units of the Crimean Tatars did, and entered into armed conflicts with them, defending the civilian population. SS, not anyone!

Who is to blame - that is to blame. Who suffered innocently - he suffered innocently. You do not need to declare traitors to everyone in a row and you do not need to rehabilitate everyone in a row. Either the question does not need to be raised at all, or you need to tell the whole truth.

Today, the leaders of the Crimean Tatars are trying to get everything to the maximum: rehabilitation, captured land, the status of the indigenous people, the quota in power. And at the same time they do not cease to stand in a position in relation to Russia, travel to the structures of its western competitors and try to complain about it and discredit it.

If they behave this way, and if, in addition, the Russian authorities endure all this and “pacify” them, they themselves will not notice how they will make the idea of ​​their new deportation the subject of discussion and active support.

Especially if you still do not engage in "political correctness" and follow the historical truth and do not forget that the Crimean Tatars have no more grounds to claim the status of the indigenous people of Crimea than the "white Protestant Anglo-Saxons" - the status of the indigenous people of America.
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  1. psychologist
    psychologist April 12 2014 16: 48
    +32
    always stay human !! in any situation! Power is in the truth!
    1. CHEMPION
      CHEMPION April 12 2014 17: 04
      +5
      If only it were good
      1. ele1285
        ele1285 April 12 2014 17: 18
        +34
        Quote: CHEMPION
        If only it were

        And what is more difficult? The greatness of the nation consists in the ability to forgive. My grandfather fought with the Germans, but all the time he said that they were worthy warriors and did not run, the Magyar hated, considered them dirt from under the nails, but God was his judge, he had nothing to hate these children from your father. Just as with the Chechens, let Ramzan be the mayor of Kiev, and Lukashenko will be elected president, two weeks and order will be restored. Who doubts, write, the Sea-Okiyan arguments.
        1. Egoza
          Egoza April 12 2014 17: 52
          +17
          Quote: ele1285
          let Ramzan be the mayor of Kiev, and Lukashenko will be elected president

          +++++! I am with both hands "FOR"
          In general, there’s an interesting picture here - Klitschko refused to go to the presidency, decided to go to the mayors of Kiev, BUT

          "The leader of the UDAR party, Vitali Klitschko, is negotiating with candidates for the post of mayor of Kiev on the withdrawal of their candidacies." Such negotiations are underway with other candidates.
          When there are agreements, I will report the result, ”Klitschko said and expressed gratitude to the former Interior Minister Yuriy Lutsenko regarding his refusal to run for mayor of Kiev.
          “I am grateful to Lutsenko, who refused to go to the mayors of Kiev ... We will continue to work in this direction to get maximum support, because this is not only support, it is also a distribution of responsibility. People who take such a step understand that they are responsible for changes in the country, ”added the leader of“ UDAR ”.
          XXXX
          Interestingly, he also agreed on his victories in the ring?
          1. ty60
            ty60 April 12 2014 18: 18
            +4
            quite likely. tote
          2. igor67
            igor67 April 12 2014 18: 27
            -11%
            Quote: Egoza
            Quote: ele1285
            let Ramzan be the mayor of Kiev, and Lukashenko will be elected president

            +++++! I am with both hands "FOR"
            In general, there’s an interesting picture here - Klitschko refused to go to the presidency, decided to go to the mayors of Kiev, BUT

            "The leader of the UDAR party, Vitali Klitschko, is negotiating with candidates for the post of mayor of Kiev on the withdrawal of their candidacies." Such negotiations are underway with other candidates.
            When there are agreements, I will report the result, ”Klitschko said and expressed gratitude to the former Interior Minister Yuriy Lutsenko regarding his refusal to run for mayor of Kiev.
            “I am grateful to Lutsenko, who refused to go to the mayors of Kiev ... We will continue to work in this direction to get maximum support, because this is not only support, it is also a distribution of responsibility. People who take such a step understand that they are responsible for changes in the country, ”added the leader of“ UDAR ”.
            XXXX
            Interestingly, he also agreed on his victories in the ring?

            For, is it for Lukashenko or for Ramzan? Somehow everyone is not seeing Ukrainian nationalism, for some reason they forget who Kadyrov really is
            1. Apollo
              Apollo April 12 2014 18: 31
              +8
              Quote: igor67
              igor67

              Well, finally ............. appeared and did not get dusty wassat
              1. igor67
                igor67 April 12 2014 18: 54
                +1
                Quote: Apollon
                Quote: igor67
                igor67

                Well, finally ............. appeared and did not get dusty wassat

                My friend was fishing
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 April 12 2014 22: 30
                  +5
                  Quote: igor67
                  igor67

                  Hello namesake. hi You have been thrown cons for the flag, do not blame me. laughing As for Ramzan, you're right, he is still a wolf. Another question is that it is used in the right way. hi
                  1. Apollo
                    Apollo April 12 2014 22: 35
                    0
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    Cons to you for the flag pushed

                    Something like this.
                    1. Ingvar 72
                      Ingvar 72 April 12 2014 22: 45
                      +1
                      Apollo, hello. hi There is such a thing. Although Igor 67 is not a stupid interlocutor, like Atalef. But they have provocative comrades, such as zaazy and pimply. Although every sandpiper praises its swamp. hi
                      P.S. Although you are a moderator, Apollo is just a nickname, I would like to contact by name, even if by a fictitious one. hi
                    2. RUSS
                      RUSS April 13 2014 09: 35
                      +1
                      Quote: Apollon
                      Something like this.


                      More like gurkhov.
                2. ele1285
                  ele1285 April 14 2014 07: 34
                  0
                  was live bait? or so just tossed
            2. His
              His April 12 2014 18: 45
              +4
              photoshop in action
              1. igor67
                igor67 April 12 2014 18: 52
                -2
                Quote: Own
                photoshop in action

                Seriously? That is, he and his father have never been on the side of the militants and did not go over to the side of the federal forces?
                1. Yuri Sev Caucasus
                  Yuri Sev Caucasus April 12 2014 19: 01
                  +22
                  Do not lie in Budennovsk Ramzan and Akhmat Kadyrov were not !!! I am a witness to those events, many friends were held hostage. Yes, and some died. You're a liar.
                  1. igor67
                    igor67 April 12 2014 19: 48
                    -2
                    Quote: Yuri Sev Caucasus
                    Do not lie in Budennovsk Ramzan and Akhmat Kadyrov were not !!! I am a witness to those events, many friends were held hostage. Yes, and some died. You're a liar.

                    First, where did I write that they were in Budenovsk? This is the photo on which Kadyrov and the militants didn’t sign, secondly, do not poke, and thirdly, how old was Kadyrov the elder the main mufti of Ichkeria? And in which year they sided, if you are a witness and consider Kadyrov a normal man, then this is your right,
                    1. 31231
                      31231 April 12 2014 20: 40
                      +5
                      Finding the exact same photo without a provocative inscription is not a problem. Yes, and remove this inscription without any problems. But you threw just this photo and now you are making excuses.
                      1. 11111mail.ru
                        11111mail.ru April 12 2014 22: 13
                        0
                        Quote: 31231
                        without provаkaic inscription

                        provоcation
                        Translation from the "Modern Russian-English Law Dictionary" by ABBYY Lingvo (including the actions of the victim provoking the crime) provocation
                  2. RUSS
                    RUSS April 13 2014 09: 33
                    +1
                    Quote: Yuri Sev Caucasus
                    Do not lie in Budennovsk Ramzan and Akhmat Kadyrov were not !!


                    I honestly do not know about their participation in Budenovsk, but the fact that Akhmat Kadyrov supported Dudaev and declared jihad to Russia is a fact!
            3. maks-101
              maks-101 April 12 2014 19: 19
              +10
              For, is it for Lukashenko or for Ramzan? Somehow everyone is not seeing Ukrainian nationalism, for some reason they forget who Kadyrov really is
              everything is understood and from this, yes it was once, and you remember that his father was killed or you forgot, and you know what kind of laws of the mountains they have or you don’t know, but you know who killed his father, and if you know then be silent and do not blather. Ramzan will gnaw at anyone for Russia and Putin.
              1. shasherin_pavel
                shasherin_pavel April 12 2014 20: 28
                +7
                Even if not for Russia, but for "vendetta", what's the difference ?! The enemy of my enemy is my friend. He said to remove the garbage and in two days the whole of Chechnya was cleared of garbage from the streets and courtyards. If he had ordered to clean up the garbage in Ukraine, they would have put things in order in two days. He may not be as flexible as Putin, but he is straightforward and lives by the principle "The President said, the country did." Man! kudos to him for that. And who will remember the old ... I was also the distributor of Yeltsin's book, and now I am ashamed of it. But who knew what this alcoholic would do in the country. maybe Ramzan fought against an alcoholic, but as soon as he saw a worthy person, he realized that there was no one to fight with. Alcoholism would gnaw out like a wolf. There is no conscience in the glass. When an alcoholic rules a country, there is no unity in consciousness!
                1. 11111mail.ru
                  11111mail.ru April 12 2014 22: 20
                  0
                  Quote: shasherin_pavel
                  There is no conscience in a glass.

                  Amazing! Lovely! But what about folk wisdom?
                  Drunk and clever are two places in him; drunk and stupid, they beat more.
                  Drunk and clever - a dummy man.
                2. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 April 12 2014 22: 37
                  +3
                  Quote: shasherin_pavel
                  maybe Ramzan fought against an alcoholic, and as soon as he saw a worthy man, he realized that there was no one to fight.

                  Have you come across Chechens at all? Ever wonder why their other Caucasians do not like?
                  1. RUSS
                    RUSS April 13 2014 09: 58
                    +1
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    Ever wonder why their other Caucasians do not like?


                    Everything is very complicated there.
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            5. Horst78
              Horst78 April 12 2014 21: 08
              +3
              This photo was posted here many times. His father was the mufti (if not correctly wrote sorry) of Chechnya and fought along with Dudayev. You can talk a lot about that period, but then the BLOOD will never stop. I hope that you igor67 do not want this for the peoples of Russia. Although by this YOU are trying to justify the occupation of Palestine and the Arabs genocide. You from me "-"
            6. Tourist
              Tourist April 13 2014 00: 33
              -1
              And what's so terrible? this is not the first time that Chechens have done this
              After Chechnya was finally annexed to Russia, the war continued for almost five more years. Shamil with murids fled to the Dagestan village Gunib. On August 25, 1859, Shamil, along with 400 associates, was besieged in Gunib and on August 26 (according to the new style - September 7) surrendered on conditions that were honorable to him (see The capture of Gunib).

              After receiving the emperor in St. Petersburg, Kaluga was assigned to him for residence. On August 26, 1866, in the front hall of the Kaluga provincial noble assembly, Shamil, along with his sons Gazi-Magomed and Magomed-Shapi, took the oath of allegiance to Russia. On August 30, 1869, by the Highest Decree, Shamil was elevated to the hereditary nobility.
        2. T-73
          T-73 April 12 2014 18: 14
          +1
          Your grandfather was right. I hope that we will be recognized as right in at least something. IMHO
        3. gsg955
          gsg955 April 12 2014 18: 30
          0
          I have no doubt one iota.
        4. Dilshat
          Dilshat April 12 2014 20: 20
          +7
          1. Again, they repeat the mistakes of the USSR, stepping on the same rake. Is it masochists or is it again in the government that the fifth column acts by laying mines on the future?
          2. What is the Crimean Tatars doing that even the SS men were horrified? In my opinion, it pulls on a separate article that they would remember and they wouldn’t forget. If you need something, remember everything. I hope the article will indicate how many Crimean Tatars were on which side. Stalin on his whim resettled them in a short time.
        5. Siberian German
          Siberian German April 13 2014 03: 13
          +1
          forgive - yes - but we have no right to forget what they did
      2. jjj
        jjj April 12 2014 17: 33
        +40
        There are many indigenous peoples in Russia. A special law provides for a number of privileges. They can lead a limited lifestyle in a limited area. The Chukchi even catch whales. Young people are exempted from military service. Well there are some more things. And that’s it. Such a law is in effect so that no popular culture will sink into oblivion, but enrich the culture of Russia.
        Islam refers to traditional religions. According to the law, religious buildings must be transferred to the communities. In Crimea, apparently in Bakhchisarai, there is a historical building of a mosque of Crimean Tatars. It will be transmitted. But on the ground, all transactions have been terminated. All land will have to undergo a geodetic survey, put on cadastral registration. And there you still have to see to whom when the land belonged. After all, there are a lot of real estate and land in Crimea, once seized by the authorities of Ukraine and our enterprises, public organizations and government agencies. This issue must be resolved.
        And do not be afraid that the Crimean Tatars will now press everyone. They themselves are afraid. They know how CTOs are conducted. And they will not spread their charter outside their cultural autonomy. Yes, and already warned
        1. ele1285
          ele1285 April 12 2014 17: 43
          -5
          [quote = jjj] Too lazy to choose, YOU are JJJ, or you don’t understand what you’re talking about, or they threw you money
          Islam refers to traditional religions. According to the law, religious buildings must be transferred to the communities. In Crimea, apparently in Bakhchisarai, there is a historical building of a mosque of Crimean Tatars. It will be transmitted. But on the ground, all transactions have been terminated. All land will have to undergo a geodetic survey, put on cadastral registration. And there you still have to see to whom when the land belonged. After all, there are a lot of real estate and land in Crimea, once seized by the authorities of Ukraine and our enterprises, public organizations and government agencies. This issue must be resolved.
          I don’t even want to answer, YOU confuse everything in the world. Read more carefully. Ramzan Kadyrov is the President for you.
          1. paul1992
            paul1992 April 12 2014 17: 56
            0
            Quote: ele1285
            I don’t even want to answer

            why then wrote? to quote the author of the post?
            nafig logic ....
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 April 12 2014 22: 55
              +4
              Quote: paul1992
              why then wrote?

              Saturday .... I also rolled slightly, do not judge so harshly. And according to the article, then with the Crimean Tatars you need to be very careful. Especially with autonomy. In fact, they lived there for only 300 years, Russians in Crimea were noted much earlier (Surozh, Korchev) So, I would not hurry with special rights for the Crimean Tatars. hi
            2. ele1285
              ele1285 April 13 2014 05: 06
              0
              Quote: paul1992
              Quote: ele1285
              I don’t even want to answer

              why then wrote? to quote the author of the post?
              nafig logic ....

              Even laziness to answer
          2. Turkir
            Turkir April 12 2014 19: 28
            +4
            Museum is a religious building? Since when?
          3. shasherin_pavel
            shasherin_pavel April 12 2014 20: 32
            +1
            Bakhchisarai is the capital of Crimea, before the advent of the Russians, and thus there is no one more interested in preserving this historical and cultural value.
        2. Dilshat
          Dilshat April 12 2014 20: 29
          +2
          It seems to me that "our" oligarchs will act there as in one joke - an old bull to a young "we will slowly descend from the mountain and the whole herd ..." regardless of who there is more or less indigenous, they will buy up all their attractive land.
        3. Suvorov
          Suvorov April 12 2014 23: 25
          +4
          Quote: jjj
          There are many indigenous peoples in Russia. A special law provides for a number of privileges.


          Unfortunately, these privileges sometimes lead to the exact opposite result. For example, in the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug-Yugra, this system of privileges for the indigenous peoples of the North (indigenous small-numbered peoples of the north) is very strongly developed. These are various social benefits (free subsidies for the purchase of housing, special (which other citizens do not have) social benefits, tuition fees in universities, benefits in environmental management, etc.) This system is the pride of the district establishment, it is cited everywhere as an example. This is understandable, the district is rich in oil and can afford such expenses. And what did it lead to? And this led to the fact that a large part of the citizens of the indigenous peoples of the North have strongly developed dependent sentiments. People do not want to work, live on numerous benefits, while among them there are strong convictions that everyone owes them something (the state and the Russians living here). It is especially puzzling when, in one village, citizens who live their whole life in the same conditions, but of different nationalities, receive completely different social benefits. This system is a bit strange (considering that the Constitution of the Russian Federation proclaims the equality of all citizens), and it was imposed in the 90s by numerous international NGOs, which to this day "live" on this topic. This topic is tacitly banned, and you can get it for "inciting". I am not opposed to the indigenous peoples of the North in some way have the protection of their culture, traditions, way of life (without which the people will cease to exist). But, using other people's advice, instead of real national-cultural autonomy, well, we simply bring the situation to the point of absurdity. In fact, we "add" these peoples to the "economic needle", without which they will then not be able to survive, since they will forget how to live by their own labor, plus we provoke interethnic strife. If we repeat a similar experience in Crimea, I think it will not be long before real "discord" will come.
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      3. Interface
        Interface April 12 2014 18: 26
        +38
        Ahmet Khan Sultan. Ace. For those Tatars who yell for deportation.
        1. shasherin_pavel
          shasherin_pavel April 12 2014 20: 42
          +9
          Total victories 49. Personally 19. sorties 603. battles 130. Honored test pilot.
        2. Smiles to you
          Smiles to you April 12 2014 22: 20
          +4
          He is, first and foremost, a Dagestan !!!! And not the Tatar-Crimean ... Who once betrayed. can betray more ... With uv ...
        3. Shoma-1970
          Shoma-1970 April 12 2014 23: 42
          +4
          He is a national man
          1. Smiles to you
            Smiles to you April 13 2014 02: 50
            +3
            No matter who. by nationality. It is important that the Dagestan! And there were no traitors, among them !!!
            During the years of Soviet power, the title Hero of the Soviet Union was awarded to more than 30 Dagestanis. Almost all of them received this high rank in the difficult years of World War II. Most posthumously.
      4. Sinara70
        Sinara70 April 12 2014 21: 25
        +17
        That's exactly it !!!
        It was not for nothing that JV Stalin sent the Crimean Tatars after the Great Patriotic War ..... The fact of betrayal Was !!!!
        And this is a fact !!!
        Partisan bases and weapons storage bases surrendered. and others.......!!
        And what needed to be done after the advent of Soviet power ??? 7
        Chew snot?
        OF COURSE NOT!!!!
        Responsible for the deed !!!!
        AND RIGHTS Was I.V. STALIN !!!!
        As always!!!
      5. Sinara70
        Sinara70 April 12 2014 21: 25
        +3
        That's exactly it !!!
        It was not for nothing that JV Stalin sent the Crimean Tatars after the Great Patriotic War ..... The fact of betrayal Was !!!!
        And this is a fact !!!
        Partisan bases and weapons storage bases surrendered. and others.......!!
        And what needed to be done after the advent of Soviet power ??? 7
        Chew snot?
        OF COURSE NOT!!!!
        Responsible for the deed !!!!
        AND RIGHTS Was I.V. STALIN !!!!
        As always!!!
    2. platitsyn70
      platitsyn70 April 12 2014 17: 07
      +21
      someone wants a conflict but there will be no conflict with the Tatars, they were given what they asked Ukraine for 20 years, and they closed it on this topic.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker April 12 2014 17: 10
        +23
        Quote: platitsyn70
        someone wants a conflict but there will be no conflict with the Tatars, they were given what they asked Ukraine for 20 years, and they closed it on this topic.

        The author of the article "blurred" the topic ...
        Compliance with the laws is a guarantee against any "kondopogs".
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 April 12 2014 17: 14
          +21
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          Compliance with the laws is a guarantee against any "kondopogs".

          Great argument! hi Yes, I think now the Turkish cells will close and financing will immediately run out of all Wahhabi NGOs! Everything will be fine!
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker April 12 2014 17: 20
            +6
            Quote: Sid.74
            Yes, I think now the Turkish cells will close and financing will immediately run out of all Wahhabi NGOs! Everything will be fine!

            hi
            1. Sergh
              Sergh April 12 2014 19: 44
              +6
              More Capture:

          2. Zaslavsky-S
            Zaslavsky-S April 12 2014 20: 37
            0
            Whatever they say, but inside the state, the policy is anti-Russian.
            1. Zaslavsky-S
              Zaslavsky-S April 13 2014 08: 37
              0
              Less, the situation does not change.
        2. ty60
          ty60 April 12 2014 18: 31
          +10
          As regards introducing Crimean Tatars into the legislation as an indigenous population, it is categorically opposed. A huge landmine of delay, essentially the right sector. Representation in the authorities, yes. land. The seizures of the reign of Kiev to consider from the point of view of the legislation of the Russian Federation. Any other scheme will fill the Crimea with immigrants from Central Asia over one summer literally.
          1. Walk
            Walk April 12 2014 22: 43
            +4
            There are really few Crimean Tatars there. Mostly visitors from Central Asia. Therefore, the law must be applied very selectively.
        3. 31231
          31231 April 12 2014 20: 43
          -2
          The author is a cheap troll, perhaps he kindles a national srach in Russia for a grant.
        4. Fin
          Fin April 12 2014 21: 33
          +3
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          Compliance with the laws is a guarantee against any "kondopogs".

          That's right. The main thing is to show the Tatar people the equal rights of all before the law, it is the lack of rights that scares the Mejlis. The issue of the occupied lands must be approached carefully, something should be given to them and officially secured, if not given, then the arguments should be serious. Tatars who live separately from the diasporas are normal working people. The Mejlis has weight among the poorly educated, for them the king and god Dzhemilev and Chubarov. Therefore, actively conduct educational work through TV, in general, to pull them out of the Middle Ages.
          On Chubarov and Dzhemilev, incriminating evidence is immeasurable (and real), it only needs to be unobtrusively put into the ears of the Tatars.
          IMHO. These two figures, by order of our "partners", support the hotbed of tension (of course, not for free), + cover the terrorists. They were afraid that the Russian Federation would cut off funding channels and liquidate the militants. And it will be so soon.
      2. shasherin_pavel
        shasherin_pavel April 12 2014 20: 42
        +1
        20 years without recognition as a small people.
    3. Mareman Vasilich
      Mareman Vasilich April 12 2014 17: 57
      +11
      Not always and not everywhere. But the Crimean Tatars from now on will be a welcome tool of the Anglo-Saxon intelligence services and politicians. Only a firm and rigid hand of power is capable of bringing order to their lands.
    4. His
      His April 12 2014 18: 47
      +5
      I agree, someone needs to make a scarecrow out of the Tatars.
    5. serega.fedotov
      serega.fedotov April 12 2014 19: 13
      +3
      I PLEASE APPLY that the first article! I want to create an ad completely out of shadow: ON THE NEW SITE "MALOROS" IN THE COMMENTS FULL RUNNING! I ASK YOU TO GO TO THE SITE OF THE PROFESSIONALS OF THE YUGOVOSTOK AND LEAVE COMMENTS-SUPPORT!
      Once again, I'm sorry that I climbed into the first column! And so as not to offend anyone, do not put me pluses!
      1. shasherin_pavel
        shasherin_pavel April 12 2014 20: 49
        0
        The introduction of "Maloros" leads to a page where there is everything about "Little Russia", but how to get to the site?
        1. Stanislas
          Stanislas April 12 2014 21: 55
          +1
          Quote: shasherin_pavel
          How to get to the site?
          Something like this: http://maloros.ru/new/
    6. Ivan 63
      Ivan 63 April 12 2014 19: 43
      +2
      "Always remain human" is not even a blissful answer. Only the people who live by holy faith in their grandfathers, great-grandfathers who stood for Crimea for more than one generation, the people whose songs about Sevastopol, there are no songs about the city of Russian glory in another language, can remain people. And therefore, let us not be "Ivans who do not remember kinship" - Stalin made a department for a reason - no one can beg his genius. So if you live by the truth, then it is necessary to conduct (as indeed always the "Russian policy" only by observing the main criterion - the truth), the entire dialogue should be reduced to one - no other decisions except Russian are possible and therefore no other languages ​​are legally stepping on a rake) can not be, and songs can be sung both in mov and in Tatar.
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  2. psychologist
    psychologist April 12 2014 16: 51
    +2
    Yes, and the son is not responsible for the father !! many years have passed, a lot of water has flowed! need to write a new story!
    1. Orik
      Orik April 12 2014 16: 58
      +17
      Quote: psychologist
      Yes, and the son is not responsible for the father !! many years have passed, a lot of water has flowed! need to write a new story!

      And how much water did not flow away, they always betrayed, that in the 19th century, that in the 20th. Mentality ...
      1. Vadim12
        Vadim12 April 12 2014 17: 05
        +8
        They will "rustle", the Crimeans will quickly put them in their place.
        1. RUSS
          RUSS April 13 2014 10: 04
          0
          Quote: Vadim12
          They will "rustle", the Crimeans will quickly put them in their place.


          I think you are right, now they are being thrown with "carrots", but as soon as Kram enters the channel, I am sure the Tatars can be reminded of the whip, especially the most zealous of their Mejlis, especially some of the forbidden Hizbut-Tahrir.
      2. not main
        not main April 12 2014 22: 21
        +1
        Quote: Orik
        And how much water did not flow away, they always betrayed, that in the 19th century, that in the 20th. Mentality ...

        Traitors were always and everywhere! But to blame nationality (people) for betrayal? Do not be like banderlog!
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 April 12 2014 23: 48
          +2
          Quote: non-primary
          But to blame nationality (people) for betrayal?

          Read the story. Of course, it's not worth judging the current generation, but the soul wide open is also superfluous. As already unsubscribed below, they can be called "indigenous" only with a stretch, and they were the fifth column always. The future needs to be built with an eye to the past.
    2. Ross
      Ross April 12 2014 17: 06
      +17
      The author is right that the Crimean Tatars came from the 13 century.
      Therefore, more accurately with the indigenous peoples of Crimea. Russians here have been at least from the 5 century, and even earlier (Scythians are also our ancestors). The genes of the Tatars, like everyone else, will not change. Therefore, strict justice is needed. With the presumption of innocence, but the strict law of the inevitability of punishment for crimes.
      1. Corsair5912
        Corsair5912 April 12 2014 19: 17
        +7
        Quote: Ross
        The author is right that the Crimean Tatars came from the 13 century.
        Therefore, more accurately with the indigenous peoples of Crimea. Russians here have been at least from the 5 century, and even earlier (Scythians are also our ancestors). The genes of the Tatars, like everyone else, will not change. Therefore, strict justice is needed. With the presumption of innocence, but the strict law of the inevitability of punishment for crimes.


        Kondopogi is the result of inequality of citizens before the law, enough to babysit the national minorities, Russia is not a zoo to preserve the rare and endangered species of ethnic minorities.
        Either they are responsible for everything according to the law, like Russians, or they need to be resettled on a reservation \.
        1. hawk
          hawk April 12 2014 21: 10
          +6
          "Natsmeny" is not about Tatars. All peoples preaching Islam are, to a greater or lesser extent, residents, actively promoting their faith, their foundations, etc. etc. Over the past century, along with the ever-increasing, against the background of the increasing degradation of the "old world" and the ministers-carriers of Christianity, the need of Muslims for new lands - regions is growing. Their birth rate is simply 2-3 times higher and they do not restrain it, like the same Chinese. Of course, you need to try to build on the historical truth, you need to involve them under the common roof of the Muslims of Russia. But ... their history is more Turkish than Russian. It won't be easy.
      2. Turkir
        Turkir April 12 2014 19: 32
        0
        Well, then, Crimea, Byzantium belonged in the 11th century?
      3. Sinara70
        Sinara70 April 12 2014 21: 30
        +1
        I agree with you !!!!
        Exactly....!!
        Only by law ... !!!
        Justice- HEAD ANGLE !!!!
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      5. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru April 12 2014 22: 54
        0
        Quote: Ross
        Russians have been here since at least the 5th century, and even earlier (Scythians are also our ancestors).

        FROM WHAT 5th century? If from the XNUMXth century BC, then according to B.A. Rybakov (the book "Herodotov Scythia") only Scythian farmers who lived along the rivers Ros and Yuzhn Bug can be attributed to the Proto-Slavs. If from the V century A.D., then this is your personal historical discovery. Therefore, your words are in your ears:
        Quote: Ross
        Therefore, more accurately with the indigenous peoples of Crimea.
    3. ermolai
      ermolai April 13 2014 04: 37
      0
      there is an old Russian proverb, whoever remembers the old one over there, and whoever forgets two! You don’t need to rewrite, but the truth without any comments, excuses, accusations must be written, it means that you knew that their ancestors worked, and that the Russians were not vindictive, but they didn’t lose their memory, and young people in Japan believe that Hiroshima- Nagasaki is the work of the USSR.
  3. CHEMPION
    CHEMPION April 12 2014 16: 52
    +15
    Crimea is not a threat to Russia! The accession of Crimea to Russia shows only that Russia is a powerful country !!! soldier
    1. Nikoha.2010
      Nikoha.2010 April 12 2014 17: 14
      +5
      Quote: CHEMPION
      Crimea is not a threat to Russia! The accession of Crimea to Russia shows only that Russia is a powerful country !!! soldier

      Yes sir! And enough to carry all nonsense and terrible catch up!
    2. Egoza
      Egoza April 12 2014 19: 28
      +3
      Quote: CHEMPION
      Crimea is not a threat to Russia!

      But in Ukraine everything is fainting!
      Now with the corner of my ear I heard a "discussion" on some show (my mother is looking for a movie and switches channels, stopped to listen) ...
      says the Kiev woman "I am in Russian, although I know Ukrainian, but I am so accustomed. Kiev is the mother of Russian cities! So Putin will seize Kiev? I am against it! And Crimea! We used to go there to rest, now people are fleeing from Crimea! Our friends have arrived! - they sell apartments there for a penny! And who buys them? MOSCOWITCHES! "
      XXXX
      Oops! So the lady broke through "concern for the people of Crimea!" wassat
      1. 31231
        31231 April 12 2014 20: 45
        +3
        our friends arrived - there they sell apartments for a penny!

        And Crimean acquaintances tell me that the real estate jumped up in value. But it is understandable that they do not understand the laws of the economy and the market.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 April 13 2014 00: 01
          +2
          Quote: 31231
          And Crimean acquaintances tell me that the real estate jumped up in value.

          +. But it is now. Half a year ago - a penny. hi
  4. patriot123
    patriot123 April 12 2014 16: 53
    +12
    Russia has always been multiconfessional! so lived 1000 years! and we will continue to live!
    1. levandos
      levandos April 12 2014 21: 50
      0
      It’s necessary to remember progressively and methodically about internationalism in order to get rid of nationalism
      1. ermolai
        ermolai April 13 2014 04: 52
        0
        and it’s right and true! I remember the times of the USSR and remember the 90s those Tatars who were in the village after the 90s suddenly felt they were elected, but before that they didn’t stand out, they didn’t tweet in public in Tatar, and at the institute those small ethnic groups wore their privileges, just like they are, and they have a hollow hot threesome, but the teacher is obliged to put genocide differently!
  5. delfinN
    delfinN April 12 2014 16: 53
    +24
    We have our own cookies on them
    1. jjj
      jjj April 12 2014 17: 36
      +8
      Great invented! Do not wander the earth on fast minds
    2. ksenofont7
      ksenofont7 April 12 2014 22: 45
      +2
      Thank you! POINT! Laughing to tears ... good good laughing
  6. Chifka
    Chifka April 12 2014 16: 55
    +23
    Already wrote, I repeat:
    "Propitiation is a manifestation of weakness. Yes, to recognize them as equal, yes, if you have offended them, to compensate, but not to fawn and not curry favor. They are the same citizens of the Russian Federation, like everyone else, they live in Russia and are obliged to comply with the laws of Russia. - to create in the region of Magadan a "Crimean Tatar Republic" ... To revive, more precisely .... The country needs everything, including corn. "
  7. Anton Gavrilov
    Anton Gavrilov April 12 2014 16: 56
    +5
    Yes, everything is ambiguous, but if they arise, they will quickly be put in place.
  8. CHEMPION
    CHEMPION April 12 2014 16: 56
    +11
    Our country is increasing !!!
    1. Tersky
      Tersky April 12 2014 18: 16
      +11
      Quote: CHEMPION
      Our country is increasing !!!

      Not at all, she just returns to her borders ..
      1. Apollo
        Apollo April 12 2014 18: 18
        +2
        Quote: Tersky
        Not at all, she just returns to her borders ..

        Under the name the USSR-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 12 2014 18: 24
          +4
          Quote: Apollon

          Under the name of the USSR

          Apollo, Skype is buggy, and I went to sleep. Tomorrow we will thump. I took a new Talky smile
          If you want to have fun, check out the Censor now. No. There’s such a rzhach, it's a complete out laughing
          1. Apollo
            Apollo April 12 2014 18: 28
            +6
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov

            Always remember romanov about conspiracy theories.
            1. Tersky
              Tersky April 12 2014 19: 00
              +7
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              I took a new talki was not

              Quote: Apollon
              Always remember romanov about conspiracy theories.

              Again without me, in Skype bar they thundered with glasses .. request ..You at least time for rendezvous ( drinks) report laughing..
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker April 13 2014 02: 51
                +2
                Quote: Tersky
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                I took a new talki was not
                Quote: Apollon
                Always remember romanov about conspiracy theories.
                Again without me, in Skype bar they thundered with glasses ..

                And then I considered myself intemperate in drinking ... laughing
        2. rainufa
          rainufa April 12 2014 18: 30
          0
          called Russia.
          1. Apollo
            Apollo April 12 2014 18: 40
            0
            Quote: rainufa
            called Russia.


            Quote: Apollon
            union


            If the memory does not fail me, the CIS is also consonant with the union.
        3. Tersky
          Tersky April 12 2014 18: 56
          +5
          Quote: Apollon
          Under the name of the USSR-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

          No. No. . why so much ... you need to take as much as you take ... enough borders of the Russian Empire .. Apollo, hi drinks !
          1. family tree
            family tree April 12 2014 19: 36
            +4
            Quote: Tersky
            enough borders of the Russian Empire

            No. Give the Germans to Poland, their turn is busy with this panel. Maybe she’s really a masochist what
          2. Apollo
            Apollo April 12 2014 20: 05
            +1
            Quote: Tersky
            enough borders of the Russian Empire

            Then why all these battles around the vehicle ?! winked
            Quote: Tersky
            Apollo,

            Wow Victor hi
  9. omsbon
    omsbon April 12 2014 16: 56
    +8
    Thirdly, the law on the rehabilitation of the Crimean Tatars is being prepared. It is clear that since Putin had promised to consider this issue, he will most likely be accepted in one form or another. It is clear that this is a kind of political payment for the expected loyalty.


    I believe that the people who have betrayed Russia more than once cannot be rehabilitated now! Let them live, work, but we'll see.
    1. serega.fedotov
      serega.fedotov April 12 2014 18: 12
      +6
      Quote: omsbon
      I believe that the people who have betrayed Russia more than once cannot be rehabilitated now! Let them live, work, but we'll see.

      It’s impossible to give everything at once, otherwise the Tatars will have their appetites!
      I have a friend of Crimean Tatar, who really never lived in Crimea, so he needs rehab on the drum! Those who pedal the topic of rehab mean that we owe them something, That is, we are initially set up for conflict!
      Therefore, any actions should be a reward: they held a referendum, create a commission on rehabilitation, dismissed militant units / and they are in the Crimean Tatars / And set up channels for the supply of money, we will raise the affairs of resettled persons
      I’ll repeat one of my posts / for which I was handed minuses /: WE WERE PROMOTED TO REHABILITATE ... WHEN TO CHANGE ... SOME
  10. 111 soldier
    111 soldier April 12 2014 16: 58
    +6
    hundreds of peoples have always coexisted in Russia !! survived !! and live well !! it is not necessary to escalate the situation !! everything will fall into place!
  11. CHEMPION
    CHEMPION April 12 2014 16: 58
    +2
    laughing Our native lands have returned to us !!!!
  12. Little Muck
    Little Muck April 12 2014 16: 59
    +12
    Everything is relative. They will live, see, compare (especially with what various "teachers" have sung in their ears) and decide.
    And those who accept the pose of radicalism and even with arms, according to the law of the Russian Federation in expense.
    Chechnya is a prime example. I am glad for Kadyrov, honor and glory to his father, who in time correctly set priorities for himself and his people.
    And Crimea - PEARL OF THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE.
  13. mad
    mad April 12 2014 16: 59
    +11
    Muslim flirting always ends in blood. The fact that simple politeness is for us is a manifestation of weakness for them. And the weak, in their opinion, exist in order to be powerless slaves and a source of enrichment.
    1. avt
      avt April 12 2014 17: 14
      +13
      Quote: mad
      Muslim flirting always ends in blood. The fact that simple politeness is for us is a manifestation of weakness for them. And the weak, in their opinion, exist in order to be powerless slaves and a source of enrichment.

      Well, what's the trouble then ??? You just don't have to be weak. Well, regarding the article - voluntarily or involuntarily - a provocation in favor of "Svidomo" Banderlog, who can happily rub their hands - "we told you." Someone really wants to stir up the Tatars right now, who, let's give them credit, led themselves into very wisely? But they could have gone into the batch, not childishly. Remember the standing in Simferopol - there are militants that more than enough have grown with the connivance of the Ukrainian authorities. So no need to say nonsense, and even do it! Once they promised what, as a result of difficult negotiations, Minikhanov and his comrades came - to do it! And then we will wait and see. But active Wahhabis, on the advice of Kadyrov, must be pressed mercilessly, these people will not inflate anybody and local Tatars, either. This does not have a national policy, especially now, when, with all the euphoria, everything is thin and to a confident stable life still to work and work.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS April 12 2014 19: 36
        +4
        Quote: avt
        Well, what's the trouble ??? Just don't be weak

        I read and do not believe that these must be pressed to agree with these, and there is no weakness with these. What kind of power is this?
        Laws must work for all, regardless of nationality and financial situation, that’s all.
        1. avt
          avt April 12 2014 20: 38
          0
          Quote: APASUS
          I read and do not believe that these must be pressed to come to an agreement with these, and there is no weakness with these.

          And what is so unexpected then?
          Quote: APASUS
          Laws must work for all, regardless of nationality and financial situation, that’s all.

          We must, only our laws were not the tablets of Moses, which are from God. Quite to themselves, people have written - like a social contract, a kind of compromise and restriction of rights. So in the Crimea - a public agreement has been reached, so you need to fulfill it, and not shy away - “what if, yes, they will" Here they will live according to their new constitution and carry out bylaws, power
          Quote: APASUS
          What kind of power is this?
          normal power will be.
          Quote: APASUS
          and with these no weakness

          And with those who put on the law and peaceful coexistence, and even want to start their own charter - they are outside the law, well, if you have the strength, and then at the moment it can turn over exactly the opposite and no spells about the "legitimacy of power" will not help ...
  14. Al_lexx
    Al_lexx April 12 2014 17: 00
    +12
    If they behave this way, and if, in addition, the Russian authorities endure all this and “pacify” them, they themselves will not notice how they will make the idea of ​​their new deportation the subject of discussion and active support.

    Key phrase.

    I think that the author is a little too frenzied. They will figure out who needs, how much and who needs. Now is not the 90s and not the beginning of the 2008s, and not even XNUMX. Special services have their tails up and the situation will be monitored very closely. In addition, those about whom the author speaks are not the majority of Crimean Tatars, but quite the opposite. And if restrictive laws are introduced in opposition to certain actions of the Majlis, etc. organizations, then a reasonable part of the Crimean Tatars (and they are the majority) will clean up their ranks themselves. Well, they are not fools, so as not to understand that it is better to live like a "half of Kadyrov" than "a whole Dudayev", especially since they are given such a chance.

    If there are no force majeure, then in September I am in Sudak every year. It will be interesting to see and feel the situation on the spot, and really from within the Tatar community (I have been living with the Tatars for 10 years already).
    1. Egoza
      Egoza April 12 2014 17: 19
      +13
      Quote: Al_lexx

      I think that the author is a little over the top.

      Considering how the Ukrainian authorities are now actively stirring up the Tatars, the author may not be "fuming" too much. You cannot give them the opportunity to sit on their necks. It should be clearly stated that the deportation saved their people from total destruction under the laws of wartime for all their "deeds". And let them say thanks for that!
      As for the return. At that time, I was conducting a seminar in the cities of Crimea and I remember very well how the Crimeans were worried: "The arrogant came, poisoned the peach orchards, the vineyards with the sheep they took with them! OTARAMI delivered them! drive out into the street! " These are facts and must be remembered! Otherwise, Russia will get a second Chechnya! God forbid!
      1. jjj
        jjj April 12 2014 17: 42
        +3
        Pay attention to the resource where the original source is located. "Cyril and Methodius" has long taken a provocative liberal position. Although this is done under the guise of caring for the Russian people
      2. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx April 12 2014 19: 05
        +3
        Quote: Egoza
        Quote: Al_lexx

        I think that the author is a little over the top.

        Considering how the Ukrainian authorities are now actively stirring up the Tatars, the author may not be "fuming" too much. You cannot give them the opportunity to sit on their necks. It should be clearly stated that the deportation saved their people from total destruction under the laws of wartime for all their "deeds". And let them say thanks for that!
        <...>

        Lena hi, the main thing is that we ourselves would not be warmed up by excessive distancing.
        Whatever they have in history and in their genes, no nation likes to be put in a stall. Then the complete "kandopoga" will definitely begin.
        And yes. Sobsna I wrote about this. Those. I am very far from the opinion that now Krymchaks are being thrown by nishtyaks and will let everything go by their own accord. No, I do not believe it.
        And I know how old-timers (from 50's and even from 30's) cut off pieces from their plots. It is necessary to consider each individual case personally. And if you stupidly drive them away from their seizures, then it will certainly put all the Tatars on their ears, even the most adequate ones.

        I will say it differently. If you bring them to a certain standard of behavior (or you have to), then you take it very slowly and so that there is no feeling that they are giving something away, but not receiving anything in return.
        With the Crimean Tatars, in general, a unique situation. On one side, Kiev did nothing for their normal legalization / return, but turned a blind eye to any arbitrariness and even nurtured the opposition to Moscow. Now everything is exactly the opposite. People are given a full amnesty and the opportunity to participate in the administration of the republic, but at the same time they will have to make friends with the law on property, etc., etc.

        Therefore, I wrote that the author of the article is hysterical and provocateur. Although not so straightforward.
  15. techmesh
    techmesh April 12 2014 17: 01
    +22
    Crimean Tatars were given a chance for a normal, human life. Let's see how they use it.
    1. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx April 12 2014 19: 16
      +5
      Quote: tech laughter
      Crimean Tatars were given a chance for a normal, human life. Let's see how they use it.

      Exactly. And they will be watched very carefully. Scientists already ...
      Moreover. The fact that, unlike Georgia, Chechnya, etc. in Crimea we have Sevastopol and this will be the most serious guarantee that we would closely monitor this region.
  16. CHEMPION
    CHEMPION April 12 2014 17: 01
    +9
    Quote: Orik
    Quote: psychologist
    Yes, and the son is not responsible for the father !! many years have passed, a lot of water has flowed! need to write a new story!

    And how much water did not flow away, they always betrayed, that in the 19th century, that in the 20th. Mentality ...

    disagree with you negative
  17. ybrcfy27
    ybrcfy27 April 12 2014 17: 05
    +4
    Well, actually, the Mongols captured Crimea from the Russians, this is so, by the way
  18. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 12 2014 17: 05
    +5
    In all likelihood, common sense will prevail, and there will be no relapse and interethnic clashes in Crimea. Yes, Russia gave the Tatars in Crimea what they, being part of Ukraine, could not even dream of. Therefore, any reasons for the emergence of mass discontent of the Crimean Tatars are objectively absent. Perhaps there will be some cases of household chores associated with young excessively hot heads.
    1. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx April 12 2014 19: 27
      +3
      Quote: Giant thought
      In all likelihood, common sense will prevail, and there will be no relapse and interethnic clashes in Crimea. Yes, Russia gave the Tatars in Crimea what they, being part of Ukraine, could not even dream of. Therefore, any reasons for the emergence of mass discontent of the Crimean Tatars are objectively absent. Perhaps there will be some cases of household chores associated with young excessively hot heads.

      +100500
      It may even be slightly worse than on the scale of a household, but real, serious interethnic conflicts will extinguish in the bud. And not without the help of the same Tatars.

      ...
      Well, then .. and who said it would be easy? It will not be easy, but I’m sure that in three or four years they will deal with all the main problems. And bytovuha, she has always been and always will be. It is impossible to deal with this, except ethnic cleansing, which is not our methods.
  19. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa April 12 2014 17: 05
    +4
    Russia now has much more serious problems in the Crimea than a showdown with the Tatars. Therefore, it would be wise to solve them along the path of least resistance. Instead, focusing on resolving issues of communication, supply, and organizing a normal life. In addition, Russia is a federal country and local disassembly should be resolved locally. Federal authorities intervene if methods and consequences begin to go beyond.
  20. Thompson
    Thompson April 12 2014 17: 06
    +3
    Put a minus. More like a provocation! Another day did not end after joining, and they are already in a panic.
    Or do you need a relapse to cry out joining?
    Everything will be fine, relax. As soon as asked, they will quickly be shown their place!
    They will not be to the right of the left or left of the right
    1. nalim
      nalim April 12 2014 18: 41
      +3
      Provocation of pure water. The author intentionally thickens the paint. Now this is Russia. Our special services have experience, strength and resources.
  21. Sergo Chita
    Sergo Chita April 12 2014 17: 08
    +23
    Famous Muslim theologian Sheikh Imran N. Hossein addressed the Crimean Tatars
    *
    http://topwar.ru/43172-izvestnyy-musulmanskiy-bogoslov-sheyh-imran-n-hoseyn-obra
    tilsya-k-krymskim-tataram.html
    *

    *
    Assalyamu alaikum!

    I welcome you, my Crimean Tatar brothers and sisters, at one of the most critical moments of your sad and painful history to offer you my good advice based on the instructions of the Holy Quran.

    If you are looking for guidance in other sources besides the Holy Quran, and if you answer the difficult situation in Crimea with actions not resolved by Almighty Allah, then you have to pay a high price for such a mistake. In this case, you should not count on the support of your brothers and sisters in Islam in different parts of the world.

    Those who criticize Russian Crimeans for their moral and legitimate choice of returning to Russia show dishonesty towards the strange act of the Soviet Union to donate the territory of Crimea to Ukraine in 1954 (through 6 years after the establishment of the state of Israel) without the consent of the people living in Crimea and in Russia. In fact, Israeli Zionists with the hands of the Bolsheviks struck Russia in the back. And this is not the first time they have acted in such a treacherous, anti-Russian way.

    The Prime Minister and the Government of Turkey voluntarily neglected the order of Allah not to take as friends and allies (and therefore seek financial and military assistance) such Jews and Christians who are friends and allies to each other (Quran, Sura Trapeza, 51). Throughout history, such a Judeo-Christian alliance did not take place until Western Christians (including the Roman Catholic Church) and European Jews strangely united in a Zionist movement.

    It was this Judeo-Christian Zionist alliance that created, strengthened, and defended Israel, which now aims to rule the whole world, including the umm of the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him).

    The Holy Quran says "if any of you (Muslims) turn to them (that is, Jews and Christians who are friends and allies of each other), then he himself is one of them." In other words, if the Muslims of Crimea accept help, weapons or money from the USA, Israel, Mossad, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, etc. for a godless war against Russia in Crimea, they will cease to be Muslims (Sura Meal, 51).
    1. jjj
      jjj April 12 2014 17: 49
      +6
      Quote: Sergo Chita
      Throughout history, such a Judeo-Christian alliance did not take place until Western Christians (including the Roman Catholic Church) and European Jews strangely united together in the Zionist movement.

      Surprisingly, professor of the Moscow Theological Academy Alexei Ilyich Osipov quotes the statements of Orthodox pre-revolutionary thinkers: "Catholicism is Judaism in Christianity."
    2. datur
      datur April 12 2014 19: 54
      +2
      and then the grandfather, though a Muslim, but thinks !!!!
  22. Sergo Chita
    Sergo Chita April 12 2014 17: 08
    +11
    NATO is the military arm of the Judeo-Christian Zionist alliance, therefore, the Holy Quran forbids Muslims to be members of NATO. The lost Turkey is not only a member of NATO, but was also its faithful assistant in carrying out the coup in Libya (and tried to do the same in Syria).

    The rulers of Saudi Arabia were loyal allies of this Judeo-Christian alliance even before the establishment of the state of Saudi Arabia. Therefore, friendship and alliance with the rulers of Saudi Arabia (whom the prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) called Sharn karn - Shaitan horn) is also prohibited, but the traitors who now rule Pakistan are sold to Saudi checkbooks.

    I expect the Israeli Mossad and the CIA, and their servile satraps Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Pakistan etc. now they will incite the Crimean Tatars to an armed uprising against Russia. They will offer weapons, military training or money, just as they already do in Syria and other places to commit anti-Russian acts of terror in Crimea. If you reject the Qur'an and follow a delusion, the result will be a complete defeat. You will have to flee to Ukraine, and you will never see the Crimea again. This will be an even greater tragedy than the one that you experienced under Stalin.

    If the Zionists see your unwillingness to fight against Russia, they will commit acts of terror, which they will accuse innocent Crimean Muslims. And if you convincingly do not condemn the terror, then you will be considered guilty and, ultimately, the Zionists will be the winners.

    My dear Tatar brothers and sisters in Islam, please understand that we are living in the Last Epoch (Ahira Zzaman), in which the Islamic world will be an ally with Rum (ie, Russia and its allies) as a prediction of Nabi Muhammad (peace be upon him and blessings of allah). It will happen, whether you like it or not. And only you choose to be on the right or wrong side of the story. The world is waiting for your choice. May Allah guide you to a choice that He will be pleased with and that will save you from defeat. Amiin!

    With love, Imran N. Hossein from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
    1. polite people
      polite people April 12 2014 17: 24
      +7
      Really man speaks the truth.
      So it will be.
      God give you the Tatars of Crimea to merge quietly into life
      Great country of Russia.
      You will only be better off.
      1. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx April 12 2014 19: 35
        +1
        Wise Sheikh. Give Bo him many years of health and prosperity.
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  23. plotnikov561956
    plotnikov561956 April 12 2014 17: 08
    +1
    The thought immediately came ... there is a good Chechen trump card for the Crimean Tatar six ... Kadyrov is just waiting for the "face" command from Putin ...
    Everything will be calm in Bakhchisarai ... these things they acutely feel ...
    1. Egoza
      Egoza April 12 2014 17: 22
      +2
      Quote: plotnikov561956
      there is a good Chechen trump card on the Crimean Tatar six ...

      "Your words, yes to God in the ears!" But we must not forget that many young people went to "study" in Turkey, and then somehow appeared in Syria, it is clear which side. Now they return home ... you need to be ready!
      1. Yuri Sev Caucasus
        Yuri Sev Caucasus April 12 2014 19: 08
        +1
        If you return there they are not greeted with bread and salt.
      2. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx April 12 2014 19: 37
        +1
        Let everyone come at once, so that they do not chase all the hot spots!
    2. Turkir
      Turkir April 12 2014 19: 38
      +2
      Kadyrov wants to build a summer house in the Crimea, maybe even two. In Bakhchisarai it is obligatory.
  24. Alexandr0id
    Alexandr0id April 12 2014 17: 10
    +1
    Crimean Tatars will either have to buy as Chechens or again repress.
    in the first case, they will have to give even more freebies than the Russian Crimeans and another 150 thousand Tatars from Uzbekistan will catch up with such gingerbread cookies. total in a few years there will be half a million Crimean Tatars, and after 30 years, due to good fertility and maternal capital - a million people. and Russians by that time in the Crimea will also remain a million, because young people will travel to Russian universities and will often stay there (Moscow, St. Petersburg, Krasnodar). this kind of demographic parity will come out, only the Tatars will have an average age of 20 years less. and then there can be another referendum, but with a different result.
    in the second case, we get another partisan with support from abroad (from Ukraine). and then there will be no tourism, no industry, no agriculture, and the Russian population will quickly dump into the regions more calmly.

    as I understand it, Russia chose the first option. it’s reasonable, at least it’s a delay for many years, and there you look, maybe we will make friends (just kidding, of course).
    1. ty60
      ty60 April 12 2014 18: 55
      +1
      I already wrote on the topic, for 5 years to prohibit Tatars from entering permanent residence until the final solution of problems with the cadastre.
    2. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx April 12 2014 19: 38
      0
      Quote: Alexandr0id

      <...>
      as I understand it, Russia chose the first option. it’s reasonable, at least it’s a delay for many years, and there you look, maybe we will make friends (just kidding, of course).

      Sorry, but..
      You do not understand correctly, because you do not know the Crimean Tatars.
  25. andrei332809
    andrei332809 April 12 2014 17: 10
    +11
    not a fig, guys are foreign, not a fig ... the people felt their strength and no one will adhere to the principle "my house is on the edge ...". so that by any inclinations the boss will be unscrewed at a time. and even an incentive to "violate" the legislation - if SUCH prosecutor takes care of you repeat
  26. CHEMPION
    CHEMPION April 12 2014 17: 12
    +13
    Crimean Tatars do not pose any threat to Russia. They are the same people who worry about their families. But soon they will realize that they are in good hands! Russia is a multinational country and supports all citizens, regardless of their nation!
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 April 12 2014 17: 41
      +6
      Quote: CHEMPION
      Crimean Tatars do not pose any threat to Russia. They are the same people who worry about their families. But soon they will realize that they are in good hands! Russia is a multinational country and supports all citizens, regardless of their nation!

      Tatars in Crimea look at events very differently and all in one heap, do not interfere ...

      Crimean Tatars supported protesters in the South-East of Ukraine
      Those who seized power in Kiev are ready to pour the blood of civilians throughout the South-East of Ukraine, Crimean Tatars express their support to protesters in the eastern regions of the country, said Seydamet Gemeji, a member of the board of the public organization Sebat (“Resistance”).
      According to Gemadzhi, the organization is ready “not only to express support in words”, but has already begun to take “concrete actions”. “I can’t talk about them yet, but we have already begun to work,” Gemeji said. He said that “South-East of Ukraine supports President Viktor Yanukovych, like us. What happened in Kiev is a real coup d'etat. We cannot stand aside when our fellow-spiritists find themselves in such a situation, ”he added. “Sebat” is an opposition organization representing the Mejlis, uniting 50 thousand Crimean Tatars. The text of the appeal, posted on her website, also states that "the population of the Southeast rightly demands a referendum on federalization, freedom to use their resources, give their language the status of a state, and release all arrested activists." “Today, no one doubts that the junta has seized power in Ukraine. The junta does not hear the Southeast, it is rigidly suppressing speeches by the hands of armed radicals and mercenaries of Western private military companies, ”the statement says.

      Source: http://politikus.ru/v-rossii/16798-krymskie-tatary-podderzhali-protestuyuschih-n
      a-yugo-vostoke-ukrainy.html
      Politikus.ru
      1. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx April 12 2014 19: 40
        +2
        Quote: Russ69
        Tatars in Crimea look at events very differently and all in one heap, do not interfere ...

        +1

        We will support "Sabat" in every possible way, and "Mejlis" will gently oust (or harshly).
  27. tnship2
    tnship2 April 12 2014 17: 12
    +5
    What was it was. Sit at the table and agree at once and for good. To forget speculations and all kinds of special privileges for yourself. There is a law before which everyone is equal. Digging insults at such a time is a dead end. We need to work.
  28. HUMAN
    HUMAN April 12 2014 17: 15
    +5
    Compliance with the laws by all without exception is a guarantee of the absence of "Kondopog". Tatars simply do not know that there will be no discounts for them.
  29. Sergo Chita
    Sergo Chita April 12 2014 17: 21
    +3
    Many have a genetic lag in the brain
    RUSSIA is not the USSR
    * two platoons TEREK long ago Armyansk and this is no secret
  30. mabuta
    mabuta April 12 2014 17: 23
    +9
    There are no bad nationalities, there are bad people. And you can agree with any people. Because among the Tatars, the Turkish special services also worked. Therefore, it will be useful to calmly solve the problems.
  31. shtanko.49
    shtanko.49 April 12 2014 17: 29
    +7
    Quote: stalkerwalker
    Quote: platitsyn70
    someone wants a conflict but there will be no conflict with the Tatars, they were given what they asked Ukraine for 20 years, and they closed it on this topic.

    The author of the article "blurred" the topic ...
    Compliance with the laws is a guarantee against any "kondopogs".

    I agree that in all ethnic conflicts, corruption suddenly surfaced in first place. If everyone lives by the law and there are no "untouchables", then there will be no conflicts.
  32. Eydolon
    Eydolon April 12 2014 17: 30
    +6
    "If we talk about the rehabilitation of the Crimean Tatars, then we must speak the truth to the end. Yes, the people should not be responsible for centuries even for the crimes of their ancestors. Yes, not all Crimean Tatars served the Nazis. But then we must also say about what kind of the scale acquired the mass service to them, and that sometimes the SS were horrified by what the units of the Crimean Tatars were doing, and entered into armed conflicts with them, protecting the civilian population. The SS, not just anyone! " what
  33. Eydolon
    Eydolon April 12 2014 17: 33
    +2
    Wahhabis cut all, and peace will come, both in the Islamic and Christian worlds.
  34. Humpty
    Humpty April 12 2014 17: 43
    +6
    Firstly, everyone knows who the Crimean Tatars are. Secondly, no one is stopping them from living. Thirdly, some of them are modern people, those are no worse and no better than anyone. Those of them who do not want to live by law must live by the decision of a fair court. And not any nails.
  35. Rider
    Rider April 12 2014 17: 47
    +2
    I do not respect these Crimean Tatars, if the download rights begin there, I will be in order to put them in their place.
  36. onegin61
    onegin61 April 12 2014 17: 56
    +5
    Stop reinventing the wheel, there is a law on extremism, with the slightest violation of it 10-ku and to Siberia, the roads to build, everything is enough to rassusolit.
  37. Sergey S.
    Sergey S. April 12 2014 18: 00
    +2
    Quote: jjj

    And do not be afraid that the Crimean Tatars will now press everyone. They themselves are afraid. They know how CTOs are conducted. And they will not spread their charter outside their cultural autonomy. Yes, and already warned

    This is not the point.
    Crimes of traitors in 1941-1944 should not be whitewashed.
    Traitors should be named by name, and then, the people as a whole (Tatars) must decide what to do.
    To acknowledge that their relatives committed treason and condemn them - becoming full-fledged citizens of Russia, not in the legal, but in the full sense. Or push against, deny a criminal conspiracy with the Nazis in the destruction of Soviet people, repeat something about the fight against communism and put yourself in relation to the state again in the position of unreliable. And then, they adopted the law of rehabilitation, did not adopt this law, the FSB will monitor each of them, all their organizations will be strictly supervised, and, as a result, all talk about the equality of peoples will be forgotten.
    And here, Turkey already frankly does not care.

    You can’t live in enmity forever. V.V. Putin understands this. And the children are responsible for the recalls, but not infinitely long. At least in a resourceful and conceptual Russia.
    Personally, I would like the Crimean Tatars to live in Crimea with some comfort, but their attitude towards the Russians should be extremely respectful. After all, the Russians made the first step towards reconciliation. It costs a lot. especially for the eastern peoples.
    And the eastern peoples know that if you abandon the bounty of the strong, then beyond the khan ...
    Here is such an ethnography.
    But museums have nothing to do with all this.
    Another thing is exposure. I was in the Bakhchisarai Palace ... Eastern luxury turned out to be almost poverty ... Well, if the Crimean khan lived in such conditions ...
    That well-being of the Tatar people will not be very expensive.
  38. upasika1918
    upasika1918 April 12 2014 18: 04
    +1
    The author is a provocateur. These need to be wet.
    1. vel-ehlvira
      vel-ehlvira April 12 2014 18: 19
      0
      I agree with that. Not so harshly, but I just wrote about it (I'm a new person here), a comment at the very end.
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    3. ty60
      ty60 April 12 2014 19: 04
      0
      He himself didn’t wash for three days, he didn’t shave for a week.
  39. Tanechka-clever
    Tanechka-clever April 12 2014 18: 08
    +5
    "not in order to provide preferences to those who are called Crimean Tatars" - the article is correct by design. But everything needs a measure. If you have captured the land, then you need to look - what and how much. But the main question - who are the indigenous inhabitants of Crimea - is nonsense and has no right to exist as a political future. Maybe we will define each Russian piece of land for the indigenous population. Today both Crimean Tatars and Ukrainians are looking for "happiness" in Europe. And flirting and playing "good" always ended badly - do not do good, you will not get evil. The more you make concessions, the more demands appear; this is what any terrorism, starting with the United States, rests on. And Poland, as the most ardent fighter with Russia for its interests on minor problems, shows that concessions are a dead end. The article does not contain the main thing - and the main thing is that the Tatars in Crimea are equal, but without the right to their exclusivity. But nobody relieves Russians of being responsible for peace in Russia - we are the majority. It's like in a family - children are all different, and parents love the same. We must learn not to give in, but to conduct a competent national policy. Otherwise, there will always be people like Navalny or Nemtsov. We were pitted for too long and they had already forgotten everything. that in the USSR, families were mostly international. Literally a month ago, I remember showing the Crimea, where one man said - look at me - who I am - but the blood of a Tatar, a Russian, and a Ukrainian flows in me. It's time to start realizing that we are all a big family
  40. demotivator
    demotivator April 12 2014 18: 08
    +2
    And yet, the question "How can we avoid the Crimean Kondopoga" remained unanswered. It is known that on the night of August 29-30, 2006, events took place in Kondopoga (Karelia) that made the name of the city a household name, and a household name in every sense - and in the sense of an attempt by Russians in one way or another to express their indignation at the behavior of visiting Caucasians, which does not fit into any permissible limits, and in the sense of the "fair trial" that followed these events. It all started with the fact that near the Kondopoga restaurant "The Seagull" three Russian people were KILLED by "southern guests" who had come to the city from the North Caucasus. Another 9 people in a SEVERE condition were hospitalized - with their heads broken by reinforcement, with their limbs mutilated with baseball bats, and with knife wounds. The fight at the restaurant ended in mass riots of the population, which in a decisive manner demanded the punishment of the guilty and the expulsion of the Caucasians from this Karelian town. And then there were Salsk, Stavropol and so on, where they also had their own kondopogs and their own "arsonists". And now we are waiting for what will happen next in Crimea and trying to figure out how to avoid our Kondopoga there too.
  41. domjoly
    domjoly April 12 2014 18: 14
    +3
    As soon as we begin to create a mononational state, we will lose 2/3 of the territory. Our strength is that we are Russians - Tatars, Buryats, Dagestanis, Russians, Ukrainians, Avenks, etc.
  42. CHEMPION
    CHEMPION April 12 2014 18: 15
    +20
    As it was in 1867, it remained!
    1. family tree
      family tree April 12 2014 20: 05
      +4
      Quote: CHEMPION
      As it was in 1867, it remained!

      So Tyutchev does not need to ascribe what he did not write.
      He and his bulk
      SLAVES



      Hello to you sincere brothers
      From all the Slavic ends
      Hello to all of you, without exception!
      For everyone, a family feast is ready!
      No wonder Russia called you
      On a holiday of peace and love;
      But you know, dear guests,
      You are not guests here, you are yours!



      You are at home here, and more at home,
      Than there, in his homeland, -
      Here where domination is unfamiliar
      Foreign authorities
      Here, where in power and citizenship
      One language, one for everyone
      And Slavism is not considered
      For grave original sin!



      Although hostile fate
      And we were separated
      But still we are one people,
      Single mother sons;

      But still we are brothers!
      Here, that's what they hate in us!
      Russia doesn’t say goodbye to you
      Russia - do not forgive you!



      Confuses them, and to fright,
      What is the whole Slavic family
      In face and foe and friend
      For the first time he will say: “It's me!”
      With persistent remembrance
      About a long chain of evil grievances
      Slavic self-awareness,
      Like God's punishment, they are afraid!



      Long on European soil,
      Where lies are so overgrown,
      A long time Pharisee science
      The double truth has been created:
      For them - the law and equal rights,
      For us - violence and deceit,
      And secured the old age
      They are like the legacy of the Slavs.



      And what has been going on for centuries
      Not exhausted and raise yourself
      And gravitates over us too -
      Above us gathered here ...
      Still sore from old pains
      All modern time ...
      Not touched by the Kosovo field
      The White Mountain is not torn!



      And between us - a great shame
      In a Slavic, native environment,
      Only he left their opals
      And did not undergo their enmity,
      Who is always and everywhere for his
      The villain was advanced:
      They are only our Judas
      Honored with their kisses.



      Disgraced World Tribe
      When will you be the people?
      When time will be abolished
      Yours and discord and adversity,
      And the cry to the union will strike
      And collapse what divides us? ..
      We wait and believe in providence -
      He knows the day and the hour ...



      And this faith in the truth of God
      Already in our chest does not die,
      Though many victims and many sorrows
      We also see ahead ...
      He is alive - the supreme Provider
      And the court didn’t impoverish him,

      And the word Tsar the Liberator
      The limit will speak for Russian ...


      1867g
  43. vel-ehlvira
    vel-ehlvira April 12 2014 18: 17
    +3
    In my opinion, the author runs ahead. Nothing has been set to the end. And where it has already been officially recorded that the Crimean Tatras are an indigenous people. I think that the wording will be correct so that no one provokes more on this subject.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza April 12 2014 19: 39
      +1
      Quote: vel-ehlvira
      And where it is already officially recorded that the Crimean Tatras are an indigenous people

      They are pushing in the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine! And Dzhamilev there deputy! It seems that he resigned as head of the Majlis, but continues to spoil the sly thing! In general, his family was strange - his teenage daughter 14 years old, hanged herself, his son killed a worker, though he was quickly sent to Turkey to be treated in a psychiatric hospital. Something there from the pope heredity pumped up! However, he continues to work as a deputy!
      1. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx April 12 2014 19: 47
        +4
        Quote: Egoza
        Quote: vel-ehlvira
        And where it is already officially recorded that the Crimean Tatras are an indigenous people

        They are pushing in the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine! And Dzhamilev there deputy! It seems that he resigned as head of the Majlis, but continues to spoil the sly thing! In general, his family was strange - his teenage daughter 14 years old, hanged herself, his son killed a worker, though he was quickly sent to Turkey to be treated in a psychiatric hospital. Something there from the pope heredity pumped up! However, he continues to work as a deputy!

        Yes, to hell with him, with Jamilev. Him and others like him, a maximum until July still in Kiev to cock.
        wink
        And not calm down, ice axes and damaged brakes, we have enough for everyone.smile
    2. Lelek
      Lelek April 12 2014 23: 12
      +3
      Actually, the indigenous peoples of Crimea were at first Scythians, later - Greeks, and the Crimean Khanate was formed as a result of the Tatar-Mongol attack on Russia. bully
  44. T-73
    T-73 April 12 2014 18: 33
    +6
    Not everything is so simple. Stirring Candopog is silly, at least. Other prerequisites for the development of the conflict. The author could take care of other examples. Which simply will not be clear. Nobody is building illusions. The question is different: Crimean Tatars see an example of their relatives in Russia - not enough? Maybe. But they did not immediately rush to Russia. They thought. Not all of them are radicals, and not suicides. Submissive? So no. RF - Federation. Yes, such that search. Unlike the Germans the same. Nobody is going to conquer anyone in our penises. Bend down? this is another question and stupid enough. Russian people - rather collective image, this state of mind. This is responsibility, readiness for self-sacrifice, kindness, openness at last. Not for nothing has passed OUR people through the centuries. And some Americans were going to bend us? The Dutch teach what should be a family, and the Finns - how to teach children? Pipes, state ... creatures. We will not teach you. We will make you remember our grandfathers. And great-grandfathers. I will not jump. I am. And I'm proud of it
    1. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx April 12 2014 19: 49
      +2
      4 T-73
      +1
      The biggest mistake is when the Tatars are compared with the Caucasians. Well, you can not compare the inhabitant of the plains and the mountaineer. The head is completely different.
      And if so, then all these ahi-fears are nothing more than a jerk of what is not there yet or just a provocation.
  45. ando_bor
    ando_bor April 12 2014 18: 34
    +3
    Minus. I do not know the intricacies of the Crimean Tatar problems, but the events in Kondopoga were clearly anti-corruption, against crime and corrupt cops, crime in this case had a national color, unlike Kushchevka.
    Karelia is a kind of unique territory of Russia, where, with minimal corruption in objective terms, it is maximum according to the population’s estimates, that is, there is intolerance to corruption,
    why so is another big question, and the author of the causes and driving forces of the processes he speaks about does not understand.
    1. T-73
      T-73 April 13 2014 12: 38
      0
      Quote: ando_bor
      I don’t know the intricacies of the Crimean Tatar problems, but

      Interesting position.
      Quote: ando_bor
      but the events in Kondopoga were clearly anti-corruption

      Really there shopkeepers rose up against the tax or police?
      Quote: ando_bor
      crime in this case the national color had

      It was not a crime, but an ethnic conflict. We have plenty of this good.
      Quote: ando_bor
      Karelia is a kind of unique territory of Russia, where, with minimal corruption in objective terms, it is maximal according to population estimates

      Really polls were?
      But seriously, I myself live in the Murmansk region, which is very close to Karelia. And many of us have relatives there. Some also have apartments in Petrozavodsk. I have not heard anything about maximum corruption even "according to the population's estimates." I always travel by car through Karelia. And I say as it is - cops do not extort bribes. We drove with a friend once to St. Petersburg, 5 am, a village forgotten by God, exceeded clearly well. Our "Range" is slowing down. A friend came out, then, syo, I'm waiting. Goes back with the papers. He sat down, said: "I don't understand. Look how much?" Look. I don't understand nichrome myself. Warning. And a polite wish to be careful on the road.
      Quote: ando_bor
      the author of the causes and driving forces of the processes he speaks about does not understand

      quite right
  46. siberalt
    siberalt April 12 2014 18: 37
    +2
    To announce a state amnesty to the Crimean Tatars is utter nonsense. For amnesty is an act of the state for the decision of the judiciary. Those. recognition of conclusions as inconsistent with the reality in which they were adopted. Picking up history is fraught with consequences. Just like Bandera and Shukhevych were proclaimed heroes. We cried, remembered, but life goes on. They gave the Crimean Tatars "caramel cockerel" and will be. You need to live in the present. Let the one to whom it is by nature given to dig in the dung heap.
  47. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 April 12 2014 18: 37
    +2
    They love to create problems with us from scratch. There is a law, there is a government that should decide everything according to the law !!! for tomorrow there will be many who wish to declare themselves indigenous people with all the ensuing privileges. The authorities should take a tough stance, and the Crimean Tatars already seem to everyone to have "eaten a bald patch". What a foul nation ???
  48. homosum20
    homosum20 April 12 2014 18: 50
    +3
    The government of the USSR, waging the most difficult war against fascism in 1944, must be assumed to know what it was doing and rarely then make a mistake - otherwise the Great Patriotic War horseradish would end the way it ended. Further, the winners are not judged. Russia is against revising the results of the Second World War. But then you need to be completely logical: During the war, the victorious side identified the Crimean Tatars as collaborators and traitors to the motherland. We are not reviewing the results of the war. Question: who are the Crimean Tatars then and where should they be located?
    To understand the situation, one must take into account that deportation as a measure of restraining the activities of the hostile part of the population was also used by kings, kings, and emperors of Europe. Especially in this, Austria-Hungary was different (see Wikipedia).
    Further: "During perestroika by the Supreme Soviet of the USSR in 1989, the deportation of the Crimean Tatars was condemned and recognized as illegal and criminal [2]."
    Now this is in full swing bljadstvo labeled. How it ended for our country - we remember. Che, again rake walk on a rake?
    There should be no guilt complex. The Crimean Tatars showed themselves during the war years as accomplices of the fascists: "In the Decree of the State Defense Committee of the USSR No. GOKO-5859 dated May 11, 1944 [6] on the eviction of the Crimean Tatars, it was indicated that the deportation was carried out because" during the Patriotic War, many Crimean the Tatars betrayed their Motherland, deserted from the Red Army units defending the Crimea, and went over to the side of the enemy, joining the volunteer Tatar military units formed by the Germans who fought against the Red Army; during the occupation of Crimea by fascist German troops, participating in German punitive detachments, Crimean Tatars especially distinguished themselves by their brutal reprisals against Soviet partisans, and also helped the German occupiers in organizing the forcible deportation of Soviet citizens into German slavery and the mass extermination of Soviet people. "
    20 thousand Crimean Tatars (every third draft age) wore the uniform of the Third Reich: 10 thousand served in the Wehrmacht, 10 thousand were policemen. [3] [4] "(Wikipedia)
    Those who forget their history are doomed to repeat it.
    So in my opinion, the problem is clear, like a day, and an egg is not worth it. On the contrary, the return of the Crimean Tatars is the same betrayal as the transfer of Crimea to Ukraine.
    The solution itself suggests itself: a station, a car, Siberia.
    In place of people (Russians, Ukrainians), at my own peril and risk, who returned Crimea to Russia, I would not understand the humor of this joke of our government.
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  49. Barakuda
    Barakuda April 12 2014 18: 51
    +2
    "In general, there is an interesting picture - Klitschko refused to go to the presidency, he decided to go to the mayor of Kiev,"
    Let the traitor be rolled again. He only sang praises in the Kyiv City Council, did nothing, no one perceives him by the majority, even because of the Maidan. A. Merkel is a friend for centuries, which can be talked about. Failed political ur.d there "o".
  50. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 April 12 2014 19: 09
    +7
    Tatars must obey the law, like all citizens of Russia, and if they don’t like it, let 3.14 ... blow into Turkey, Ukraine or drown in the Black Sea.
    Stop babysitting with the nationalities, Russia is not a zoo with enclosures for rare and endangered animals that need to create favorable conditions so as not to rest. Crimean Tatars have no value either wool or grease, one g ... but.
    The ancestors of the Crimean Tatars 300 years parasitized on the Russian people, attacked, robbed, raped, killed, taken into slavery, collaborated with the Nazis, that's what we need to talk about loudly and openly to the whole world, and not arrange rehabilitation for them.
    Let them be ashamed of their past, and not we for deporting them. What they deserved, they got it.
    1. Stavros
      Stavros April 12 2014 19: 42
      +2
      Would you be ashamed? They would have been ashamed, they were silent, but did not demand something. They still stick a knife in the back, remember this.