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Alpha refused to storm buildings in Donetsk and Lugansk

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Alpha refused to storm buildings in Donetsk and LuganskThe leaders of the Ukrainian special forces "Alpha" refused to carry out orders of the city authorities to storm the administrative buildings in Donetsk and Lugansk. This was reported 11 April local media.


“We will work exclusively within the framework of the law. Our units are created to free hostages and fight terrorism,” they cite the words of one of the leaders of Alpha.

According to the publications, the officers announced a corresponding decision at the security and law enforcement meetings in Donetsk and Lugansk in response to the demands of the country's first deputy prime minister Vitaly Yarema, previously appointed by the Verkhovna Rada, and Acting Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council (NSDC) Andrei Parubiy.

Meanwhile, protesters continue to hold the regional state administration building in Donetsk and the Security Service of Ukraine in Lugansk, ITAR-TASS reported.

11 April at noon Moscow time expired ultimatum, which the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine presented to the protesters in the south-east of the country. Last Wednesday Avakov promised to solve the situation in 48 hours in the Luhansk, Kharkiv and Donetsk regions either by negotiations or by force.
In the afternoon it became known that at a meeting with the administrative and business asset of the Donetsk region, Prime Minister of Ukraine Arseniy Yatsenyuk spoke for the Verkhovna Rada to adopt a law on a local referendum.
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http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1468204
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  1. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam April 11 2014 13: 54
    +97
    We will work exclusively within the law.

    This is how it is necessary to answer all the power structures of Ukraine.
    You look, and the prosecutor’s office will take up the case with the wording:

    In Ukraine, on February 22, as a result of prolonged protests and bloody clashes between protesters and security forces, a change of power took place, which has signs of a coup.

    And the Maidan immediately end
    1. platitsyn70
      platitsyn70 April 11 2014 14: 00
      +18
      Last Wednesday Avakov promised to resolve the situation within 48 hours
      Avakov will extend the ultimatum.
      1. VeteranS
        VeteranS April 11 2014 14: 30
        +26
        And at the same time, let Avakov warm up the engines of the vehicle, on which he will boldly flee from the righteous anger of the glorious Berkut and all the people of the South-Eastern regions of Ukraine ... but this criminal and liar will definitely not leave God’s Court! And let the other members of the junta also collect their suitcases and washed off under the wing of Bardak Obama while there is time!
      2. GradusHuK
        GradusHuK April 11 2014 14: 39
        +21
        So Avakov answered
        1. Corsair
          Corsair April 11 2014 14: 51
          +39
          Quote: GradusHuK
          So Avakov answered
          And what did you expect from a bugger ???
        2. 341712
          341712 April 11 2014 15: 11
          +11
          We say "carried a point"))))))))))))
        3. 120352
          120352 April 11 2014 15: 20
          +20
          It would be cool if Alpha in full force sided with the protesters, like Lieutenant Colonel Andrei Chuykov in Kharkov.
          1. Baloo
            Baloo April 11 2014 22: 41
            +3
            It would be nice if alpha would do its duty to the end. Imagine, the junta writes operas in separate rooms, each to their own, about all their crimes, where and how they fucked them, where they stole the stolen goods, etc. And prosecutors are rushing ... like the judge was waiting, his working day is ending.
        4. gav6757
          gav6757 April 11 2014 16: 42
          +1
          And, you need to ask him as a "understanding"!
          1. gav6757
            gav6757 April 11 2014 16: 43
            +2
            You can’t ask, he’s Pedik - omitted ...
      3. RUSS
        RUSS April 11 2014 14: 49
        +12
        Quote: platitsyn70
        Avakov will extend the ultimatum.


        And what else does he have to do, does not want to show the slack, but how long will the ultimatum be extended? By the way, on this basis, seeing that the East of Ukraine and part of the law enforcement officers "scored" on Avakov, the Banderovtsi can remember Sashka Bely and hang Avakov as promised, oh, I don’t envy this pido..ku.
        1. randomizer
          randomizer April 11 2014 17: 14
          +2
          An extended ultimatum is no longer an ultimatum - so, rag)
      4. Dazdranagon
        Dazdranagon April 11 2014 14: 49
        +8
        Quote: platitsyn70
        Avakov will extend the ultimatum.
        - last Avakov warning !!! laughing
        1. Predator
          Predator April 11 2014 14: 56
          +7
          Well, he still hasn’t caught up with the Chinese! There will be a 525 warning and SE, as if scared!
      5. chudoudodelt
        chudoudodelt April 11 2014 15: 42
        +5
        for an indefinite time) and there everything may end
      6. Turkir
        Turkir April 11 2014 15: 46
        +4
        Avakyan, his real name.
        1. Altona
          Altona April 11 2014 16: 59
          +2
          Quote: Turkir
          Avakyan, his real name.

          ----------------------
          And all that is declared or pronounced aloud is the Armenian radio ... With duplication on Facebook ... laughing
      7. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov April 11 2014 15: 55
        +8
        Quote: platitsyn70
        Avakov will extend the ultimatum.

        He plays a point, is afraid of green men along the border.
      8. Deadmen
        Deadmen April 11 2014 16: 00
        +4
        in fact Avakov already in himself justified balabola.
      9. domokl
        domokl April 11 2014 19: 09
        +1
        Alpha is not the first who did not dare to fight with the Slavs, who were prepared for death ... When, a long time ago, the Byzantines were in the same situation ... And they also refused.
        Those who took the SBU building are not just a crowd ... They are trained fighters, officers, Afghans, marines ... And they, as I wrote, communed before death, invited the priest. They have nowhere to retreat, and they don’t want to retreat anymore. They are already almost dead. And you can’t fight with the dead ... They simply cannot be killed ...
        So, I do not praise or condemn Alpha commanders. They already did a lot of things ... But they ran into a real adversary. And the Alfovites don’t really want to die, realizing that after the Golden Eagle the faith of the Ukrainian government cannot be ...
    2. Akhtuba73
      Akhtuba73 April 11 2014 14: 05
      +24
      Quote: MainBeam
      and maidan end

      It would not have started if everyone had done everything according to the law
      1. Corsair
        Corsair April 11 2014 14: 56
        +6
        Quote: Akhtuba73
        It would not have started if everyone had done everything according to the law

        Much has been said about the root causes of the Maidan, but the fact that in any case it would have arisen, if not at the end of the 2013, then before the planned NEXT presidential election ...
        So the euro and overseas sponsors had planned, and Ukraine would not have disappeared from this misfortune.
    3. Trailer
      Trailer April 11 2014 14: 06
      +29
      All normal Ukraine is held hostage now! To work guys!
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    5. TAMERLAN 7
      TAMERLAN 7 April 11 2014 14: 17
      +25
      Last Wednesday, Avakov promised within 48 hours to resolve the situation in the Lugansk, Kharkov and Donetsk regions either by negotiations or by force.
      They are driving themselves into a corner! Let him try! Do they think we can be intimidated? Any power option will only inflame hatred towards them and the desire to go to fight them. And the security forces will not help them! And rightly so! Well done "Alpha", keep it up! If they also considered the Banderevites as terrorists, in general they would be respected from us! soldier
      1. Egoza
        Egoza April 11 2014 14: 23
        +30
        Quote: TAMERLAN 7
        And the security forces will not help them!

        On April 10, at a rally of social movements “Borotba” and “Southeast”, police lieutenant colonel Andrei Chuykov made a public statement stating that he had refused to accept the award established by Avakov - the letter “For the liberation of the city of Kharkov from separatists” - and was dismissed from police ranks “until restoration of constitutional order in the country. ” More than a hundred participants in the rally of the Defenders of Kharkov welcomed the officer’s decision by chanting "Well done" and "Police with the people." This was reported by the polemic correspondent. More here - http://polemika.com.ua/news-143176.html
        Today
        Kharkiv "Berkut" holds a protest action near the building of the Ministry of Internal Affairs

        The Kharkov battalion of the Berkut special forces left its base and proceeded by convoy to the building of the regional Ministry of Internal Affairs. Then a column of 30 lines of 3 people lined up near the building and, on the command of the commander of the special forces, entered the building. This was reported by the polemic correspondent.

        As it became known, the reason for this action was the decision of the Minister of Internal Affairs Arsen Avakov to dismiss the commander of the Kharkiv Bercut battalion.

        The polemic correspondent managed to communicate with the employees of "Berkut" 40 minutes before their trip to the Ministry of Internal Affairs. The fighters stated that they consider it their main task to preserve the Kharkov unit and personnel.

        “You understand, if we quit, then we will get in our place a student who will not think when they get the command to shoot. And in the worst case scenario, they can shoot without a team. Kharkiv "Golden Eagle" will never raise a weapon to Kharkovites, "said one of the employees who wished to remain anonymous.

        As it was previously known from reliable sources, on the night of April 6, when the Defenders of Kharkov seized the KHOA building, special police units and the Golden Eagle received an oral order to carry out a forceful cleaning of the OGA building from unarmed activists. However, all units refused to carry out the order, but in the most categorical form this was done by the commander of the Kharkov Golden Eagle. He stated that the Berkut people would not follow the oral orders, and demanded a written order, saying that only after receiving a written order would they decide how to proceed.

        Recall, on April 8, Avakov promised that he would dismiss more than 30% of the Kharkov police personnel for inaction during the seizure of the Kharkov regional administration. Avakov called the sabotage the actions of both ordinary policemen and special forces soldiers during the assault by activists of the regional administration.
        Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-143196.html
        1. Russ69
          Russ69 April 11 2014 14: 25
          +3
          Quote: Egoza
          Today
          Kharkiv "Berkut" holds a protest action near the building of the Ministry of Internal Affairs

          Stream, from there http://bambuser.com/channel/gekz11
        2. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre April 11 2014 14: 44
          +22
          This is the main bell. When the security forces finally remembered. that they are also citizens and have a civil position and supported the people. The case is the army. Who is she with? I must express my attitude, and not be silent.
        3. gav6757
          gav6757 April 11 2014 16: 56
          +1
          This is good, of course, but ... There is no clear plan of action, all movements are chaotic and fragmented, there is no movement forward! All this resembles the revolution of 1905. They built barricades and wait for them to come to fight ... Times have changed, sit in the building of the Security Service of Ukraine in Lugansk - well, continue to sit, the same in Donetsk. Sense - a little! We need action, movement, we need to take into account the experience of Crimea, capture everything that is badly worth it, or lies - as you like, well, that's all! Armed and move the conquered territory to the geographical boundaries of the regions! Conduct advocacy among the population, the army and law enforcement agencies. In general - to act !!!
          1. VadimSt
            VadimSt April 11 2014 20: 55
            +1
            Come and teach! Or an eagle, but not the one that flies ...
      2. Altona
        Altona April 11 2014 17: 00
        +1
        Quote: TAMERLAN 7
        And the security forces will not help them!

        ------------------------
        But on the example of Berkut, they don’t see from whom then they will sculpt the extreme ones?
    6. kolyhalovs
      kolyhalovs April 11 2014 14: 30
      +2
      We will work exclusively within the law. Our units are set up to free hostages and fight terrorism.


      What prevents the junta from declaring those who are sitting in these buildings terrorists? So the phrase is ambiguous ...
      1. Phase
        Phase April 11 2014 14: 55
        +17
        Well done Alfovtsy! They did not shame the name of the unit, in which both Russians and Ukrainians stormed Amin’s palace and performed many more tasks.
        What a pity that honest and selfless fighters have such a shameless, corrupt and unprincipled "government". The one who came to power contrary to the law, and now appeals to him (the law).

        Well, the way the new government treated Berkut also played a role. If you judge people for following orders of a legitimate authority, then who will follow your instructions?
      2. Letun
        Letun April 11 2014 15: 04
        +7
        Quote: kolyhalovs
        What prevents the junta from declaring those who are sitting in these buildings terrorists? So the phrase is ambiguous ...

        The phrase is unambiguous. Alpha's fighters are not verbiage, and they know how to distinguish a terrorist from a protester.
    7. Jurkovs
      Jurkovs April 11 2014 14: 48
      +3
      Quote: MainBeam
      You look, and the prosecutor’s office will take up the case with the wording:


      You didn’t see how Sashko Bily dispersed the prosecutor’s office, but immediately the Right sector and the court dispersed.
      1. Mainbeam
        Mainbeam April 11 2014 14: 55
        +2
        Quote: Jurkovs
        You didn’t see how Sashko Bily dispersed the prosecutor’s office,

        And where is Sashko now? And how long has the Right Sector left to be in favor?
        In my opinion, the Right Serkor is the first thing to merge.
    8. brelok
      brelok April 11 2014 15: 14
      +6
      just from ukrosaytah there is a squeal - you won’t say otherwise: to disperse all the siloviki! Weapons for patriots. In short panic. Well, what: Forward to Kiev is everything more real?
    9. samoletil18
      samoletil18 April 11 2014 15: 43
      +4
      Quote: MainBeam
      This is how it is necessary to answer all the power structures of Ukraine.
      You look, and the prosecutor’s office will take up the wording
      Prosecutor Natasha (Natalya Poklonskaya) did just that, she was not afraid, like the three "male" pussies. There are decent people in Ukraine, and quite a few! Moreover, these new-haired animals with horns and baroda promise to rip off shoulder straps from Alpha officers.
      http://ria.ru/world/20140411/1003514657.html
      1. Corneli
        Corneli April 12 2014 20: 21
        -2
        Umm ... I just can not resist ...
        This is enta "davalka", who at 34 years old mego-prosecutor of all Crimea (10000% received for outstanding knowledge, intelligence and open cases) according to your "decent"? Damn, it seems like Serdyukov's "decent" ladies were being turned around ... Found a new one?
        1. Nonik
          Nonik April 14 2014 11: 13
          0
          Quote: Corneli
          Umm ... I just can not resist ...
          And you would rather hold out than unreasonably dirt on Poklonskaya pouring. The viewer of the most dumbest stupid ukro-channel and the press, damn it.
    10. gav6757
      gav6757 April 11 2014 16: 40
      +4
      I would advise our security officials to respond in the same way, especially to riot police !!! Itself worked once, and received an order to disperse peaceful demonstrations, and grandfathers go ahead, with orders to their entire chest !!! I had to leave the organs. Yes, these are not democratic democratic rallies, do not think badly!
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  2. Wiruz
    Wiruz April 11 2014 13: 54
    +43
    Excellent. God willing - Alpha will go over to the side of the "separatists", so here is your replenishment in the self-defense of Donbass!
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 April 11 2014 13: 59
      +76
      Here it is 5 points men !!!!! Honor is more expensive!
      1. Tersky
        Tersky April 11 2014 14: 05
        +27
        Quote: Alex 241
        Here it is 5 points men !!!!! Honor is more expensive!

        Sasha, not 5, but all 100 ... It remains to wait for such statements from Yagur and Sokol, all the rest of the entrails and sludge under the proudly sounding brand - Nakhgvardia will rush to the small homeland of prosecutors ..
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 April 11 2014 14: 11
          +28
          Quote: Tersky
          Nakhgvardia "will rush to the small homeland to drive prosecutors ..

          Hi Vit-handsome!
          1. il grand casino
            il grand casino April 11 2014 14: 17
            +18
            Thinking over the second photo .... what if he shoves it all the same? ....
            1. Corsair
              Corsair April 11 2014 15: 06
              +4
              Quote: il grand casino
              Thinking over the second photo .... what if he shoves it all the same? ....

              The third photo collage - The officer: "Oh * uet!" ...
          2. sniper
            sniper April 11 2014 14: 18
            +11
            Quote: Alex 241
            -beauties!

            Hi Sasha! It was from them that the monkeys came (those with a grenade !!!) wassat
          3. TAMERLAN 7
            TAMERLAN 7 April 11 2014 14: 37
            +8
            No, I’ve seen enough of our stupid mountains, but in order to deal with such vulgarity with RPG ??? Are they really so stupid ??? Lord, what country do I live in ?! recourse repeat am
            1. gispanec
              gispanec April 11 2014 15: 54
              +2
              Quote: TAMERLAN 7
              but to engage in such vulgarity with RPG ???

              you know .... it’s not possible to embrace the immense ..... this is a fact, but the Natsiks want to cram into the unshielded .... photoshop)))
          4. Sagittarius
            Sagittarius April 11 2014 14: 42
            +18
            My God! Well, the warriors. As the constructor of the ammunition was perspicacious, it becomes a combat platoon only after a shot. It looks like a BABA grenade launcher! Then it’s clear that everything is trying to shove into the narrow ******* slot that is thicker.
            1. Gost
              Gost April 11 2014 15: 16
              +2
              everything is trying to cram into a narrow ******* gap that is thicker. AHAHAHAH laughing
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          6. samoletil18
            samoletil18 April 11 2014 15: 56
            +1
            Yeah. "Take it pity that we do not want."
          7. bomg.77
            bomg.77 April 11 2014 16: 01
            +14
            For the collection, not Ukraine!
            Shaitan trumpet
          8. ran nearby
            ran nearby April 11 2014 16: 32
            +2
            And these little-hearted adies are going to chase us, m.o.s.c.a. wassat
          9. gav6757
            gav6757 April 11 2014 17: 02
            +2
            Oh, nice hands !!!!!
      2. Sid.74
        Sid.74 April 11 2014 14: 06
        +37
        The lieutenant colonel of the Kharkov police refused to serve the junta !!!
        1. Dazdranagon
          Dazdranagon April 11 2014 14: 54
          +5
          Well done man - "I did not see armed terrorists ..." ... hi
        2. samoletil18
          samoletil18 April 11 2014 16: 03
          +4
          How I want to shake his courageous hand! I RESPECT HIM! hi soldier
        3. Baloo
          Baloo April 11 2014 22: 44
          +3
          Respect and respect to the colonel.
    2. mamont5
      mamont5 April 11 2014 14: 48
      +3
      Quote: Wiruz
      Excellent. God willing - Alpha will go over to the side of the "separatists", so here is your replenishment in the self-defense of Donbass!

      Most likely, Alpha will keep neutrality.
  3. Uncle
    Uncle April 11 2014 13: 57
    -81%
    They refused to storm it well, but the question arises of discipline. An order is an order, storm, and then we'll figure out who settled there. If ordered to shoot children or women, then the refusal would be understandable.
    1. Alexandr 2
      Alexandr 2 April 11 2014 14: 00
      +20
      So they were given such an order.
    2. Aleksandr12
      Aleksandr12 April 11 2014 14: 04
      +16
      Quote: Uncle
      An order is an order, storm, and then we'll figure out who settled there. If ordered to shoot children or women, then the refusal would be understandable.

      Here you are wrong. First you need to think about who you are directing the weapon at, because then your conscience will ask you and you will not be "ordered" from it in this way. They can order and jump from the roof, only the one who gave the order will not jump.
      1. Uncle
        Uncle April 11 2014 14: 33
        -35%
        Quote: Aleksandr12
        First you need to think about who you are pointing the weapon at.

        There were not old women with grandchildren and toys, there were real weapons, cocktails, barbed wire, there was info about the hostages. There was a case in America yesterday: a bandit took a person hostage. They called the police, surrounded the house and see how a bloodied man ran out, and another behind him. And this other was mistaken for a bandit and slammed. Then it turned out that he also ran away and was not a gangster. Why am I: there is infa about the hostage and weapons, there is an order, it must be followed. I do not urge to kill, I urge to obey orders. Here they give an example to Berkut, who didn’t shoot without an order, the military units of the Crimea didn’t resist ours, since there was no order, they asked the Minister of Defense: give an order, there was no order to shoot and no one shot. I imagine what will happen if each commander and chief begins to speculate what to do.
        1. neri73-r
          neri73-r April 11 2014 14: 45
          +13
          There were not old women with grandchildren and toys, there were real weapons, cocktails, barbed wire, there was info about the hostages. There was a case in America yesterday: a bandit took a person hostage. They called the police, surrounded the house and see how a bloodied man ran out, and another behind him. And this other was mistaken for a bandit and slammed. Then it turned out that he also ran away and was not a gangster. Why am I: there is infa about the hostage and weapons, there is an order, it must be followed. I do not urge to kill, I urge to obey orders. Here they give an example to Berkut, who didn’t shoot without an order, the military units of the Crimea didn’t resist ours, since there was no order, they asked the Minister of Defense: give an order, there was no order to shoot and no one shot. I imagine what will happen if each commander and chief begins to speculate what to do.


          The logic of your words is understandable, but a discussion of this issue at this time is not appropriate here! This time, secondly, in order to discuss this, it is necessary to define the concepts and clearly understand what the order is and what the criminal order is, as well as what the oral order is, who is responsible for its implementation, whether the lawful military commander gives it or not and so on and only then to reason whether it is correct that it was fulfilled or not fulfilled!
        2. Dazdranagon
          Dazdranagon April 11 2014 14: 56
          +5
          Quote: Uncle
          There was a case in America yesterday
          - do not cite America as an example - if our law enforcement officers behaved the same way there, we would have already left 40 million in Russia ...
        3. Corsair
          Corsair April 11 2014 15: 12
          +4
          Quote: Uncle
          there was hostage info

          Are you a supporter of the JUNT (?) If you so confidently repeat the frankly ordered media nonsense?
          Or just do not have the elementary ability to analyze what is happening?
        4. sir.jonn
          sir.jonn April 11 2014 15: 16
          +6
          Quote: Uncle
          I do not urge to kill, I urge to obey orders.

          And whose orders to execute? There is no power in Ukraine right now, only Bendera take seriously the Piva Nazis seriously.
          1. samoletil18
            samoletil18 April 11 2014 16: 08
            +2
            Quote: sir.jonn
            only Bendera perceive.
            Yes, FIG knows. Avakov for Sashka white are going to hang.
        5. zao74
          zao74 April 11 2014 15: 18
          +9
          Whose order to execute ?! Bandits and Natsik, seized power in the blood ?!
        6. Dromac
          Dromac April 11 2014 15: 20
          +9
          Does your uncle have something with your head? What happens in Ukraine is a civil war in a mild form, this is when a brother goes to his brother. Here they just make a choice, you for whom for white or for red (conditionally). And about what you say it concerns an external threat, and try not to do it there. So someone will execute such an order, and then people go crazy and shoot.
        7. RUSS
          RUSS April 11 2014 15: 34
          +8
          Quote: Uncle
          I imagine what will happen if each commander and chief begins to speculate what to do.


          "Uncle" You seem to be an adequate person judging by your early comments, but today you got carried away ...
          Alpha has every right not to obey the order: first, who are the "clerks"? And secondly, Alpha is not punitive and not mercenaries.
        8. Turkir
          Turkir April 11 2014 15: 52
          +9
          Police are created for the security of the people. And it is NOT legitimate rulers, coupists who give orders by voting and elections who seek to become legitimate power.
          Avakyan is a criminal, Minister of the Interior. Good logic, if your criminal department seizes a police officer and gives you an order on the radio, then you will execute it only because it comes from your boss’s office? Dumb execution of orders is morally and criminally punishable.
        9. gispanec
          gispanec April 11 2014 15: 56
          +4
          Quote: Uncle
          I do not urge to kill, I urge to obey orders.

          is it at the moment in Ukraine the same thing .... or do you think differently?
        10. Aleksandr12
          Aleksandr12 April 11 2014 15: 57
          +4
          You are wrong again. One thing is hostages (innocent people who are used for their own purposes by terrorists), another when people are trying to protest against what is happening in the country, even if in such a drastic way as capturing the adm. buildings. After all, people sympathize and empathize with those who settled in these buildings. They defend the interests of residents of these areas and not only them. And to fulfill the order to storm the building without taking this fact into account is the same as shooting yourself (incredible stupidity). I do not differ in excessive humanism, but in my opinion it’s a crime to kill people, even armed, but who defend the interests of a large number of their citizens. And every fighter should ask himself whether he is a criminal or not.
          Quote: Uncle
          There was a case in America yesterday: a bandit took a person hostage. They called the police, surrounded the house and see how a bloodied man ran out, and another behind him. And this other was mistaken for a bandit and slammed. Then it turned out that he also ran away and was not a gangster.

          So you gave an example when orders are executed without thinking, innocent people die.
        11. GradusHuK
          GradusHuK April 11 2014 16: 03
          +2
          And from whom is the order?
        12. gav6757
          gav6757 April 11 2014 17: 12
          +4
          Under Yeltsin, he refused to disperse the demonstration, where WWII veterans were in the forefront, substantiated his position and resigned from the organs. And I do not regret it !!! Conscience and internal responsibility should always be, this is the difference between man and cattle!
        13. dalekiy
          dalekiy April 11 2014 17: 42
          0
          About hostages - this is disinformation.
    3. Atlas
      Atlas April 11 2014 14: 06
      +25
      In zh.pu such an order !!!!!! Every adult man understands what is happening and why in Ukraine and everyone has figured out everything for a long time. I h.e.r laid down on such an order if you have to storm (and there you can’t do without blood and beatings) civilians who simply want a normal life and understanding on the part of the authorities.
    4. COLUN
      COLUN April 11 2014 14: 22
      +11
      In preparation for the assault, reconnaissance is carried out, which should reveal the forces and means of the defenders. And since both old and young are defending in Donetsk, the execution of an order is a crime.
    5. Dym71
      Dym71 April 11 2014 14: 26
      +9
      Quote: Uncle
      They refused to storm it well, but the question arises of discipline. An order is an order, storm, and then we'll figure out who settled there. If ordered to shoot children or women, then the refusal would be understandable.


      I understand what you wanted to say, but from Yarema and Parubiya - this is not an order.
      You yourself know where Ukraine is and where the rule of law is.
      1. Uncle
        Uncle April 11 2014 14: 35
        +11
        Quote: Dym71
        but from Yarema and Parubiya - this is not an order

        I agree. I can imagine what a feud in the souls of the security forces who are being thrown at their own citizens.
        1. Sanglier
          Sanglier April 11 2014 15: 17
          +2
          Honestly, it seems that Ukraine needs Pinochet. Or Franco ... To know exactly what to achieve and to have power (army) behind him !!!
      2. dalekiy
        dalekiy April 11 2014 17: 44
        0
        I agree. From these criminals there can be no orders in the proper sense of the word. Who are they to give orders?
    6. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ April 11 2014 14: 30
      +12
      Uncle (1)
      An order is an order, storm, and then we'll figure out who settled there ...


      Nonsense impossible for a real warrior, officer.
      In 1993, m.d.a.k.i were found. "officers" tankmen who shot from tank guns The Supreme Parliament of the Russian Federation - the Supreme Soviet of Russia. Shame eternal to them.
      By the way, now it’s not too late to investigate this case and judge them with the deprivation of officer ranks so that not even one commander, officer, even crosses the mind to refer to the order, if they commit a criminal offense - open fire on their people.
      1. Uncle
        Uncle April 11 2014 14: 36
        -11%
        Quote: vladimirZ
        Nonsense impossible for a real warrior, officer.

        Fulfill the order - stupid? You have fever?
        1. igor36
          igor36 April 11 2014 14: 45
          -9
          Quote: Uncle
          Fulfill the order - stupid? You have fever?

          One hundred +. If they had not done it, it is possible and in Maydauns would have bred.
          1. Michael_59
            Michael_59 April 11 2014 15: 29
            +4
            Quote: igor36
            One hundred +


            One hundred crosses in Russian cemeteries.

            There are orders that cannot be followed.
          2. vladimirZ
            vladimirZ April 11 2014 16: 02
            +1
            Uncle (1)

            Quote: vladimirZ
            Nonsense impossible for a real warrior, officer.

            Uncle (1)
            Fulfill the order - stupid? You have fever?


            Any soldier, and especially an officer, must understand the difference between a criminal order and an order within the limits of official and combat duties, including the civil duty of each soldier not to commit criminal offenses provided for in the Criminal Code and a number of other state codes.
            It is a pity that you do not understand this!

            It seems that in military schools and institutes, as the practice of committed war crimes shows, little attention is paid to the legal, moral and political training of future officers. And this is a very important part in the training of officer personnel.
            Take the most recent cases that occurred in Ukraine, for example, the same Colonel Mamchur in Belbek. The officer, with the rank of colonel, the commander of the aviation brigade, does not understand the essence of the military oath.
            Referring to the oath made to the people of Ukraine, this unfortunate colonel reassigned his part of the gangster Bandera authorities who carried out a coup in Kiev, thereby violating the oath to the people of Ukraine and President Yanukovych elected by the people of Ukraine.
            Further, this criminal in uniform, Mamchur, using his power, organized a provocation that almost led to blood (an attempt under the banners and shouts of "America is with us" to attack the blocking posts of "polite people").
            The officer must fulfill the order, if the order is legal, within the limits of the charters and laws of the state. If not, the order should not be executed whoever gave it, even though the Supreme Commander himself. Honor is more expensive.
            1. Uncle
              Uncle April 11 2014 17: 35
              -2
              Quote: vladimirZ
              for example, the same colonel Mamchur

              Charismatic personality, it should be used for propaganda purposes.
              Quote: vladimirZ
              Referring to the oath made to the people of Ukraine, this unfortunate colonel reassigned his part of the gangster Bandera power

              It seems to me that you should not blame him, he is not a lawyer. (Incidentally, I, too) Agree that the Rada is legitimate and appointed Turchinov. I don’t know how he dared, and what could he do if the president escaped? Thank God that I did not give the order to shoot.
              Quote: vladimirZ
              (an attempt under the banners and shouts of "America is with us" to attack the blocking posts of "polite people")

              "America is with us" is just a bomb, they could not think of anything more stupid.
              1. dalekiy
                dalekiy April 11 2014 18: 15
                0
                And why did the president run away? They now have everything "so-called", "de facto" or acting, I'm glad as well.
              2. Corsair
                Corsair April 11 2014 22: 44
                +1
                Quote: Uncle
                Agree that the Council is legitimate and appointed Turchinov.

                And at the same time, the legitimate Rada did not eliminate Yanukovych from power (by impeachment) ...
                And as a consequence of the fact that Yanukovych is de jure PRESIDENT, ALL orders of the junta are UNLAWFUL.

                Including for the exalted colonel Mamchur ...
          3. gav6757
            gav6757 April 11 2014 17: 45
            0
            If it weren’t for Yeltsins, Red Toliki, incomprehensible Gaidars, Novodvorskie toads and others like them (yes, I forgot Serdyukov-pomoyny), the country would be better and cleaner, and the people more sincere and kinder !!!
        2. RUSS
          RUSS April 11 2014 15: 36
          +5
          Quote: Uncle
          Fulfill the order - stupid? You have fever?


          Is the concept of honor, conscience and decency familiar to you? Or everything needs to be taken "under the hood"?
        3. mark7
          mark7 April 11 2014 15: 59
          +3
          Quote: Uncle
          Fulfill the order - stupid? You have fever?

          You did not answer whose order to fulfill? Those who seized power?
        4. Fess
          Fess April 11 2014 16: 15
          +1
          I support you. An order is an order, it must be executed. If everyone thinks - to do or not to do - this is not an army. All the strongest armies in history had iron discipline. This must be understood. Do not like it - quit.
          1. AleksPol
            AleksPol April 11 2014 16: 47
            +2
            An order is an order, it must be executed.
            Yes, no one argues. In a combat setting, this is sacred. But what about the civil confrontation. When the country is on the verge of a civil war, Where one awkward movement will lead to bloodshed.
          2. RUSS
            RUSS April 11 2014 17: 04
            +1
            Quote: Fess
            I support you. An order is an order, it must be executed. If everyone thinks - to do or not to do - this is not an army. All the strongest armies in history had iron discipline. This must be understood. Do not like it - quit.


            You know, I think you are from the category of people who want to see on TV - "action movie on the air", you like reporting from hot spots and from disaster sites, in general, TREAT! And the sooner the better for you. And secondly, if you think that if there is a massacre and the East will therefore separate from Ukraine even faster, then you are mistaken.
            1. Fess
              Fess April 12 2014 10: 55
              0
              I think you consider yourself a very smart psychologist who understands the essence of people. I will disappoint you - this is not so. You made a completely stupid conclusion, confirming your lack of talent in this area. I am against bloodshed and against further escalation of the conflict. Moreover, I have Ukrainian roots and Ukrainians are very close to me. But I understand that no army will be effective without iron discipline. I think everyone understands this. It is unfortunate that you are on a military-related website and do not understand this.
          3. dalekiy
            dalekiy April 11 2014 18: 16
            +2
            Conscience and the Ten Commandments cannot cancel any charter. There are criminals giving criminal orders. The court partly passes the story, but in the highest sense, the Last Judgment will be the court and there it will not give a link to the charter of the armed forces.
      2. Grenz
        Grenz April 11 2014 14: 48
        +6
        Late.
        God's judgment and accidents in these Judas have already put an end to.
        Grachev and Yeltsin on that, excuse me, light.
        And the stray gunners, who forgot how to drive a car, who fell on their heads, who faded altogether, relatives do not know where their "hero" hid.
        But the question is very correct.
        Although in hindsight - but such actions should be condemned by law.
        As they have now taken up Hunchback. And immediately bored ... nodded.
        1. gav6757
          gav6757 April 11 2014 17: 52
          +2
          And Humpbacked ka, for all his affairs, needs to be judged before the whole people !!!
          And what would the live broadcast be on TV!
    7. little man
      little man April 11 2014 14: 45
      +5
      Already there was a similar polemic here, about a year ago. When a German soldier refused to shoot civilians and he was shot along with them.
    8. AleksPol
      AleksPol April 11 2014 14: 48
      0
      In the Second World War, the Germans also carried out orders. And who were they?
    9. VeteranS
      VeteranS April 11 2014 14: 56
      +11
      Nobody canceled the concept of criminal orders ... At the Nuremberg trials, many Nazi bloody criminals tried to escape from conviction ...
      Theoretically, if the commander orders you to shoot at your relatives and neighbors. Do you follow this monstrous order?
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov April 11 2014 17: 40
        +1
        Quote: VeteranS
        Theoretically, if the commander orders you to shoot at your family and neighbors .you also follow this monstrous order

        And that’s how the authorities will turn later. Remember the Ullman’s case, there’s nothing to talk about, although you can say a lot request
    10. PATTIY
      PATTIY April 11 2014 14: 58
      +2
      Uncle, fool
    11. Turkir
      Turkir April 11 2014 15: 50
      +2
      Since when did the police take the oath of junta? The police take the oath to serve the PEOPLE. You didn’t mix anything up? He is a policeman, and SS-vets.
    12. Turkestan
      Turkestan April 11 2014 15: 53
      +6
      The entire current group of leaders of the power structures of Ukraine are not legal, who came to power through an armed coup. So, the commanding staff of Alpha and Berkut have the full LEGAL right not to comply with the orders of the Impostors.
    13. Mainbeam
      Mainbeam April 11 2014 16: 33
      0
      Quote: Uncle
      Orders are orders

      Full blown? Judging by the disadvantages, most of the readers of the Voennoye Obozreniye website did not serve in the army. Although a couple of adequate resources are present.laughing

      Quote: Dym71
      I understand what you wanted to say, but from Yarema and Parubiya - this is not an order.
      You yourself know where Ukraine is and where the rule of law is.

      Who is their Paruby 1971 born there? Ukrainian politician. Self-proclaimed Secretary National Security and Defense Council



      What about Yarema? Ukrainian politician. People’s Deputy of Ukraine. Retired police lieutenant general. Self-styled First Deputy Prime Minister Ukraine Vitaliy Yarema

      1. Uncle
        Uncle April 11 2014 17: 27
        0
        Quote: MainBeam
        Heap in full?

        That's right. laughing A little more and driven into gray tones.
      2. gav6757
        gav6757 April 11 2014 18: 00
        +1
        Service, service, strife! You can serve, but you can serve !!!
        At the expense of the one who served and who did not, this is another question!
        And you need to address it to you with the "uncle" ...
    14. Horst78
      Horst78 April 11 2014 16: 38
      +1
      An order is an order, storm, and then we'll figure out who settled there.
      Not smart or what? belay
  4. JoylyRoger
    JoylyRoger April 11 2014 13: 57
    +15
    Plus to "Berkut".
    Well done!
  5. Petr1
    Petr1 April 11 2014 13: 59
    +18
    "Alpha" refused to carry out the orders of the city authorities to storm the administrative buildings in Donetsk and Lugansk.

    Glory to the officers, glory to the officers! fellow
  6. GOGY
    GOGY April 11 2014 13: 59
    +8
    Well done, Alpha! You are professionals and should not follow the orders of this bastard! Be with the people in this difficult hour and the descendants will be grateful to you!
  7. ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 April 11 2014 14: 00
    +11
    We will work exclusively within the law. Our units are created to free hostages and fight terrorism, "
    Hurray !! Common sense has triumphed. Their example I believe will become an example for others !!! good
  8. Alexey M
    Alexey M April 11 2014 14: 01
    +8
    So you have decent and reasonable people in Ukraine. It's a pity these people did not get into the government.
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    2. alexng
      alexng April 11 2014 14: 25
      +4
      Quote: Alexey M
      It’s a pity that they didn’t get into the government.


      And on decent Americans put a filter.
    3. Sanglier
      Sanglier April 11 2014 15: 20
      +1
      Where didn’t you go? And what, the government appeared in Ukraine?
  9. Smiles to you
    Smiles to you April 11 2014 14: 02
    +7
    "Alpha". does not want bloodshed. Pravoseki or , sorry, the meannesses can provoke. Donetsk, Lugansk, to you perseverance and patience ...
  10. Elena54
    Elena54 April 11 2014 14: 02
    +12
    The commanders of "Alpha" great respect and honor for such a decision !!! The military cannot fight the civilian population with their loved ones. It's so great that the commanders have a real officer's honor !!!!!
  11. MolGro
    MolGro April 11 2014 14: 03
    +43
    Hold on !!
    1. Uncle
      Uncle April 11 2014 15: 34
      +3
      It is very good that these words were spoken by the Ukrainian saints, (I did not hear about him), they sound very modern, although they were said when no one thought about the partition. A visionary old man, of course.
      1. RUSS
        RUSS April 11 2014 17: 06
        +2
        Quote: Uncle
        A visionary old man, of course.


        Well, it seems you let go laughing You see, and the pros went to you.
        1. Uncle
          Uncle April 11 2014 17: 28
          0
          Quote: RUSS
          Well, laughing seemed to let you go, you see, and the pluses went to you.

          All by your prayers. smile
  12. ispaniard
    ispaniard April 11 2014 14: 03
    +41
    (Repost) "MAIDANUTAYA JUNTA" SALMED TUNA! laughing Yaytsenyukh agrees in Donetsk about FEDERALIZATION ... Zassali "Banderlog to storm the protesters in Donetsk and Lugansk. Residents of DONETSK and LUGANSK-MO-LO-DTSY !!! all Russia for you, please accept our congratulations Brothers!
    1. ermolai
      ermolai April 11 2014 14: 26
      -11%
      well said !, but something decides the rumor, probably the word fearless, probably correctly fearless, the devil prefix is ​​associated with devilry, and without it is a denial of something
      1. Michael_59
        Michael_59 April 11 2014 15: 46
        +6
        Sit down, Yermolai - two!

        In prefixes on З - С - the consonant is written as it is heard.
        Spelling of prefixes times - (races -), without- (demon-), from- (is-), vo- (re-) depends on their pronunciation:
        Z - pronounced and written in front of a voiced consonant;
        C - pronounced and written before the deaf consonants in the root.

        And to whom demons seem - it is necessary to be baptized. And do not confuse faith in God with occultism and superstition.
      2. samoletil18
        samoletil18 April 11 2014 16: 22
        0
        Quote: ermolai
        Fearless
        I didn't minus, but according to the rules of Russian grammar, the prefix BES is used before the letter "C". And no devilry!
      3. kare
        kare April 11 2014 19: 15
        +1
        The ostentatious protruding literacy and based on it even more hurts the ear arrogance
        Noticing a mistake, dear, apologizing politely you make it clear to a person that he’s not quite right, especially since the meaning depicted in the picture speaks for itself hi
    2. dimdimich71
      dimdimich71 April 11 2014 14: 33
      +1
      I wonder how the geyropa will react, there are separatists and Alpha who then, and they say they bought, they judge by themselves
    3. ussrex
      ussrex April 11 2014 15: 13
      +2
      This is not just fearless. He himself is able to inspire fear and respect for enemies and become a symbol of courage for friends!
  13. torrr38_41
    torrr38_41 April 11 2014 14: 03
    +6
    That's right, well, in fact, do not kill those whom you swore to defend ...
  14. AleksPol
    AleksPol April 11 2014 14: 03
    +11
    Well done. in 93 g, Alpha also refused to storm the White House. Criminal orders are not executed. Honor is more expensive
    1. biznaw
      biznaw April 11 2014 14: 10
      +3
      But in 91, they did not fulfill the order to storm Yeltsin in vain, maybe now with China they would be on par
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      2. samoletil18
        samoletil18 April 11 2014 16: 45
        +3
        Quote: biznaw
        But in 91, they did not fulfill the order to storm Yeltsin in vain, maybe now with China they would be on par
        Is not a fact. The then leadership had already strongly shaken the country, there were hot spots within the USSR, it was clear that the process could not be stopped by the State Emergency Committee, why arrange a massacre? The dispersal of the defenders of the White House would only slow down the process of the disintegration of the country, and it was not clear where the parts of the Great Country would find their way. The Ukrainian "Alfovtsy" have Russia, which the "Alfovtsy" did not have in 1991.
        And another example. Nobody condemned Alpha for refusing to storm the White House. And the battalion commander, who went over to the side of Yeltsin, was spat upon after the fall of the State Emergency Committee. The question of choice is a difficult one. For most, honor is more precious.
        At least a year earlier, a birthmark on the head was thrown into Foros!
  15. Oleg56.ru
    Oleg56.ru April 11 2014 14: 04
    +14
    Alpha is not a killer! Bravo guys! Keep it up! hi
    1. podpolkovnik
      podpolkovnik April 11 2014 16: 26
      +2
      Quote: Oleg56.ru
      Alpha is not a killer! Bravo guys! Keep it up! hi


      For some reason, not a single post sounded:

      From the RIANEWS message:
      ... the officers of the special forces openly announced this in Donetsk at a meeting of security officials with the participation of the First Deputy Prime Minister of Ukraine Vitaly Yarema and in Lugansk with the participation of the NSDC Secretary of Ukraine Andriy Parubiy. "We will not go to kill everyone in the occupied buildings of Lugansk and Donetsk. We will work exclusively within the law, our units are created to free hostages and fight terrorism," the security officials said in response to the demand of Yarema and Parubiy.
      According to the source, Yarema was enraged by the disobedience of the Alpha officers and expelled them from the meeting, calling them traitors, and promised to rip off the shoulder straps from everyone and severely punish them.
      At the same time, according to the source, acting President of Ukraine, Parliament Speaker Oleksandr Turchynov gave the order to the state security department (UGO) to prepare for the storming of occupied buildings in Lugansk, and then in Donetsk.

      RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20140411/1003514657.html#ixzz2ya0NYESy

      In how. decided to drive his guard to it?
      It’s the same as sending a watchdog on a hunt.
  16. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov April 11 2014 14: 04
    +13
    Well done guys! This junta has to answer for Berkut ..
    1. cergey51046
      cergey51046 April 11 2014 14: 29
      +2
      Totally agree with you.
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  17. KAPITANUS
    KAPITANUS April 11 2014 14: 05
    +13
    Here Avakov take a gun yourself and go storm! ... and even to help friends take all sorts of Yatsenyuk and other shit.
    1. VeteranS
      VeteranS April 11 2014 15: 02
      0
      Avakov would rather storm his place on the plane in order to escape from the retribution of the heroes of the Berkut, so the guys really want to look into his lying eyes!
    2. gav6757
      gav6757 April 11 2014 18: 08
      0
      EGGS AND OTHER BEEFS !!!
  18. Bobxnumx
    Bobxnumx April 11 2014 14: 05
    +11
    There is something to respect the fighters of "Alpha"!
  19. zzz
    zzz April 11 2014 14: 05
    +3
    Even somehow I can’t believe it ....)))))))) On the other hand, if you look at Whose orders to carry out, then everything seems to be normal for normal men from "Alpha"
  20. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 April 11 2014 14: 06
    +6
    Bravo, GUYS!
    It’s a sin to shoot at your people, only for the reason that this people does not want to live in a fascist country, wants to adopt laws that do not contradict the spirit, conscience and memory of their fathers and grandfathers.
  21. batia72
    batia72 April 11 2014 14: 06
    +3
    everything hasn’t turned out so badly in Ukraine yet, but the right-wingers will go ahead and the Americans will shoot them in the back, and here’s the ... oh provocation, so ALPHA needs to look after the snipers!
  22. LOCKS
    LOCKS April 11 2014 14: 10
    +2
    This proves once again that the words duty and law for the Ukrainian military are beginning to acquire their former meaning. And they are not ready to embrace the new "power" and the Pravosek people against their own people, called Kiev separatists. These guys are good at separatists.
  23. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 April 11 2014 14: 13
    +5
    Thank you for not betraying yours. There are honest soldiers and commanders in UKRAINE. May GOD reign in the UKRAINE peace and tranquility. good drinks
  24. mabuta
    mabuta April 11 2014 14: 15
    +15
    Thanks to the guys! They did not drop the honor of the special forces!
  25. fregina1
    fregina1 April 11 2014 14: 16
    +4
    There may be others from the WEST! You can’t relax!
  26. kodxnumx
    kodxnumx April 11 2014 14: 17
    +4
    For me, the siloviks urgently need to stop everyone who participated in the anti-coup, Yaresh, Yatsenyuk, all in one word, this will be the first step to normalizing the setument!
    1. il grand casino
      il grand casino April 11 2014 14: 21
      +1
      And why should they be arrested? ... With these it is necessary differently ....
    2. slovak007
      slovak007 April 11 2014 14: 30
      +1
      And about Klitschko, Tyagnybok forgot?
      1. il grand casino
        il grand casino April 11 2014 14: 36
        +1
        Quote: slovak007
        And about Klitschko, Tyagnybok forgot?


        Nothing is forgotten, nobody is forgotten
  27. kmike
    kmike April 11 2014 14: 17
    +2
    Well done! drinks
  28. Little Muck
    Little Muck April 11 2014 14: 17
    +2
    Bravo officers. It’s no good to stain your honor. You can not give the slightest reason to doubt the service of the people, and not a bunch of scum.
  29. Zubr
    Zubr April 11 2014 14: 17
    +3
    What was required to prove !!! Bravo guys! Now, if you still supported the citizens, you would not have a price. And banderlog, you for them are just an instrument to achieve the goal. Pour into resistance on the side of the rebellious people, you from these idiots in Kiev, there will be nothing more to wait for. You are just a consumable for them.
  30. ispaniard
    ispaniard April 11 2014 14: 18
    +21
    And "Alpha" repeated the feat of the legendary "Berkut" SPECIAL THANKS !!! Do not stain your honor with the blood of innocent people!
  31. Twilight
    Twilight April 11 2014 14: 19
    +5
    “We will work exclusively within the framework of the law. Our units are created to free hostages and fight terrorism,” they cite the words of one of the leaders of Alpha.
    Now it’s clear why the junta in their statements on their under-television insisted that they took hostages in Lugansk and Donetsk.
  32. boozer
    boozer April 11 2014 14: 19
    +4
    Well done guys! Greater respect is this difficult decision. But reason, a just cause, professionalism and officer's honor prevailed over the Maydan fascist orders! There are still real officers in Ukraine, there are! Not everyone was fooled by Bandera’s lasts. Well done once again Guys (with a capital letter)! good
  33. alex007983
    alex007983 April 11 2014 14: 19
    +5
    Such people are worthy of recognition and respect. They were not afraid to challenge the junta.
    More of these real officers.
  34. Fedya Sukhov
    Fedya Sukhov April 11 2014 14: 22
    +3
    Well done lads! Huge merci for this! Have shown an active civil position! The first swallow, so to speak! Here the army would have declared a strike against the junta even before the heap, it would have become quite happy!
    1. Voodoo
      Voodoo April 11 2014 14: 31
      +4
      I agree. The presence of the army would now be on the side of the people would not hurt. And then soon, as "spirits" will amers footcloths wash ... shame (((
  35. chinararem
    chinararem April 11 2014 14: 23
    +18
    Honor and Praise to Alpha! The last thing would be to shoot at their own. Special Forces does not act according to the charter and order, but according to conscience.
    1. tolancop
      tolancop April 11 2014 15: 19
      +2
      Why not according to the charter? Old Soviet charters explicitly prohibited the execution of criminal orders. I think that this provision is also in Russian and Ukrainian charters.
  36. alex47russ
    alex47russ April 11 2014 14: 26
    +1
    I hope that all Ukrintsy will wake up from the European fever and understand that Ukraine is a purely Slavic State and along the way It is only with Us !!!
    1. Voodoo
      Voodoo April 11 2014 14: 29
      +2
      Not all Ukrainians are struck by European fever ... evidence of this happening in the East.
  37. kvn
    kvn April 11 2014 14: 26
    +2
    adequate people what to say
  38. Voodoo
    Voodoo April 11 2014 14: 27
    +5
    "Alpha" is just great! The security officials also have sane people! Bravo!
  39. sanek0207
    sanek0207 April 11 2014 14: 27
    +8
    "TO THE SOUL-GOD, THE HEART TO THE WOMAN, HONOR TO ANYONE!" Well done "ALPHA" !!!
  40. Pesnyadv
    Pesnyadv April 11 2014 14: 27
    +14
    The words of the hypocrite - "In the afternoon it became known that at a meeting with the administrative and economic assets of the Donetsk region, Prime Minister of Ukraine Arseniy Yatsenyuk spoke in favor of the Verkhovna Rada adopting a law on a local referendum."

    The owner of the teahouse filed a complaint against Hajj Nasredin.
    The essence of the complaint - Nasrudin comes to the teahouse, smells the smells of pilaf, barbecue and seizes his cake.

    The court sentenced - Nasrudin must pay the teahouse money.

    Then Nasrudin took out a purse with coins, called under the ear of a teahouse.
    I sniffed your smells and paid for it with the ringing of my coins !!! wink

    Thieves cannot be trusted.
    May they accept the Law. Then you can believe (maybe ...). bully
    1. VeteranS
      VeteranS April 11 2014 15: 08
      +1
      Maydanut criminals and Bandera, how easily they will accept any law, worrying about their own life, just as easily it will be canceled! There is only one way out: the people themselves, without any "law" of the junta, on the basis of the nation's international law of self-determination, hold a referendum and consolidate its results by creating an independent pro-Russian state. To begin the movement towards reunification with Russia forever.
  41. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN April 11 2014 14: 28
    +3
    Guys correctly understand their duty! If the rulers serve Obama, then they think that everyone else has sold out? fool
  42. Anton Gavrilov
    Anton Gavrilov April 11 2014 14: 29
    +3
    These are real heroes!
    1. asar
      asar April 11 2014 14: 43
      +1
      What other Heroes !!! Glory to them!
  43. Vrvarius
    Vrvarius April 11 2014 14: 29
    +5
    and they weren’t afraid, well done! and this ghoul is very much to give orders, you bastard.
  44. GAndr
    GAndr April 11 2014 14: 33
    +4
    "ALPHA" - thank you so much!
    1. asar
      asar April 11 2014 14: 46
      0
      I am joining! MANY THANKS, GUYS! (I hope you have the Internet and you are reading everything!)!
  45. cergey51046
    cergey51046 April 11 2014 14: 34
    +2
    You can not believe the Nazis.
    May they accept the Law. Then we'll see.
  46. Az_esm
    Az_esm April 11 2014 14: 35
    +1
    Honest officers have not yet died out in Ukraine! And a living example of "Berkut" in Kiev ...
    1. asar
      asar April 11 2014 14: 48
      0
      There are PEOPLE and there are "non-humans"!
  47. dmitrii2121
    dmitrii2121 April 11 2014 14: 36
    +1
    Now everyone has to decide, the middle does not work out. If there were an assault, there were senseless victims on both sides, for the sake of the interests of these maydauns. But the guys also need to be determined, for Avkov and the like they are already the same enemies, they did not fulfill their task. So what would they all remember, will they have the courage to side with the people?
  48. asar
    asar April 11 2014 14: 37
    +4
    WELL DONE BOYS!!! GOOD FELLOWS !!! Russia is with you !!! drinks good good Without a "bazaar" - I will come to you - we will note !!! Thank you guys from Russia !!! drinks good
  49. individual
    individual April 11 2014 14: 41
    +1
    It must be understood that if the referendum organizes and holds the region, then this is one picture, and if it is conducted by the junta, then the question asked and the factor of the armed law enforcement officer draws other contours. am
  50. Igor62
    Igor62 April 11 2014 14: 41
    +2
    Quote: vladimirZ
    Uncle (1)
    An order is an order, storm, and then we'll figure out who settled there ...


    Nonsense impossible for a real warrior, officer.
    In 1993, m.d.a.k.i were found. "officers" tankmen who shot from tank guns The Supreme Parliament of the Russian Federation - the Supreme Soviet of Russia. Shame eternal to them.
    By the way, now it’s not too late to investigate this case and judge them with the deprivation of officer ranks so that not even one commander, officer, even crosses the mind to refer to the order, if they commit a criminal offense - open fire on their people.