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In Poland, created their own assault rifle MSBS-5,56

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Photos of new assault rifles, which are being developed in Poland, have appeared on the Internet. One of them is made according to the bullpup scheme, the second according to the classical scheme. These rifles are MSBS-5,56 (the Polish name Modulowy System Broni Strzeleckiej kalibru 5.56 mm is a modular shooting system in 5,56-mm caliber). An assault rifle is being developed in the interests of the Polish army. Currently, the Polish designers are working with two variants of the rifle, different layout. Thanks to the modular principle, the MSBS-5,56 assault rifle can be easily transformed into a carbine, a light machine gun or a sniper rifle.


It is reported that an assault rifle is being developed from the 2007 of the year. It is created by the University of Military Technology WAT (Military Technology University) in Warsaw and the company FB Radom. The rifle is being developed under the standard NATO cartridge 5,56x45 mm, while also considering the option of using the cartridge 7,62x51 mm. Work is underway on two options. weapons - in the classic layout with the store, which is located in front of the pistol grip of fire control, and made according to the bullpup scheme with the rear location of the store. Initially, the serial production of the MSBS-5,56 rifle was planned to begin in 2014, but today we can say that the dates for the serial production of the assault rifle were postponed. In this case, the rifle is getting closer to serial production and adoption by the Polish army.

5 March 2014 in the city of Radom as part of the ceremony of accepting the new buildings of the Archer Factory (Fabryki Broni Łucznik) a new Polish assault rifle, made according to the bullpup scheme, was first introduced to the public. The opening ceremony was associated with the completion of work and the adoption of the new weapons factory, located in the northern part of Radom. The opening ceremony was attended by high-ranking Polish officials: Speaker Sejm Eva Kopach, Prime Minister of Poland Donald Tusk, Minister of Finance Vlodzimierz Karpinski and President of the Industrial Development Agency Wojciech Dabrowski. The area of ​​the new enterprise is 3,5 ha. At this production site there are several industrial buildings with a total area of ​​17 thousand square meters. meters, of which 12 thousand square meters. meters accounted for production workshops. The first investments were made in the project in October 2012, the cost of the project was 100 million zlotys.

In Poland, created their own assault rifle MSBS-5,56

At the opening ceremony, the latest product FB Radom was presented - the MSBS-5,56 / RAWAT assault rifle. Currently being tested demonstrator rifle. As expected, the completion of development and preparation for serial production will take a few more months. In that case, if the development program will go on schedule, and the Polish military will make an order for a new weapon, the military tests of the assault rifle can be completed in 2016 year. In this case, experts note that in appearance the Polish rifle MSBS-5,56 very much resembles the Bushmaster ACR American rifle.

The new Polish assault rifle uses vapor-automatic equipment with a small stroke of the gas piston. The receiver of the assault rifle consists of two halves, which are interconnected by means of pins. In the upper half is located the bolt group and the trunk, in the lower one there is a trigger mechanism, as well as the receiver of the magazine. The trigger mechanism mounted on the assault rifle provides firing with single ammunition and fully automatic fire. A special flag-translator of firing modes is located above the MSBS-5,56 pistol grip and duplicated on both sides. The magazine's latch is located on the left side in front of the trigger guard, in a familiar place for those familiar with American M16 rifles.

From the top of the receiver, as well as on the rifle's forearm, there are Picatinny-type slider guides on the bottom and on the sides, which are designed to be mounted on a rifle of various devices such as laser aiming indicators, tactical flashlights, sniper sights, additional front handles and bipods for better retention and more effective firing and so on. The rifle in the classic version of the layout is equipped with a telescopic butt, which has the ability to adjust the height of the cheek and folds on its right side. Also, especially for the new assault rifle, the under-barrel grenade launcher of the bullpup design was created, the barrel of which can be reclined to the left side in approximately the same way as the German AG-36 grenade launcher.


The assault rifle was created under the NATO cartridge 5,56x45 mm, along with it uses the original plastic box magazine, which is designed for 30 cartridges. The effective range of this rifle is about 400-600 meters. The modularity principle implemented in it makes it easy to convert a rifle into a carbine, light machine gun or a sniper version. The assault rifle is composed of standard mechanical sights, which were made removable and foldable.

There is information that according to the results of the preliminary tests of the assault rifle in the bullpup layout, which have been going on for several months already, a number of changes were made to the design of the weapon by its creators. In parallel, tests were carried out rifle classic layout, which also led to the introduction of some changes in the draft. The MSBS-5,56 automatic rifle is said to be comfortable, easy to learn, has low recoil and is well balanced. Below is a list of changes that have been made to the MSBS-5,56 version of the bullpup layout:

- the shutter latching unit in the rear position and the shutter delay button were changed;
- the shape of the trigger guard and chamber was changed;
- A new safety lever;
- the shape of the magazine receiver was changed, it is reported that now the rifle will be able to use different types of magazines, including increased capacity for 60 cartridges;
- a removable pistol grip is installed, which is compatible with the M4 carbine and its variants;
- the charging handle was understated, now the various accessories installed on MSBS-5,56 do not interfere with the arrow when reloading the weapon.


Performance characteristics MSBS-5,56:
Caliber - 5,56 mm.
Cartridge - 5,56x45 mm NATO.
The initial speed of the bullet - about 900 m / s.
Barrel length - 406 mm.
Rifle length - 900 mm.
Weight without cartridges - 3,2 kg.
Aiming range - 400-600 m.
Magazine capacity - 30 cartridges.

Information sources:
http://vpk.name/news/106460_novaya_polskaya_556mm_shturmovaya_vintovka_msbs.html
http://tillgun.ucoz.ru/publ/1/shturmovye_vintovki/polskaja_shturmovaja_vintovka_novogo_pokolenija_msbs_5_56/4-1-0-293
http://hisgun.ru/modules/news/article.php?com_mode=thread&com_order=0&storyid=50
http://www.guns.yfa1.ru/sovremennye-polskie-shturmovye-vintovki-msbs-556-i-msbs-556b.html
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  1. omsbon
    omsbon April 11 2014 08: 13
    -9
    And will these rifles help "lyakham" in carrying out their aggressive policy towards Russia?
  2. bunta
    bunta April 11 2014 08: 25
    +9
    The initial bullet speed is 540-590 m / s.

    Something low speed.
    1. PAM
      PAM April 11 2014 08: 43
      +1
      I agree, something with the presented characteristics is not right ...
      1. inkass_98
        inkass_98 April 11 2014 15: 51
        +1
        Quote: PAM
        something with the presented characteristics is not it ...

        Perhaps the chip has come out.
    2. rkkasa xnumx
      rkkasa xnumx April 11 2014 11: 25
      +1
      Quote: bunta
      The initial bullet speed is 540-590 m / s.
      Something low speed.


      Indeed, something is not right. The AK-74 has a barrel length of 415 mm and an initial bullet speed of 900 m / s. And here is the barrel 406 and the initial speed of 540-590. As far as I know, the NATO 5,56x45 cartridge is more powerful than our 5,45x39.
  3. olegarhiv
    olegarhiv April 11 2014 08: 31
    +5
    What can I say, well done Poles. Develop their own production.
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 April 11 2014 12: 31
      +1
      Quote: olegarhiv
      What can I say, well done Poles. Develop their own production.

      The Americans from the Americans got stuck with the 3D printer! laughingI especially like the rivets on the cases!
      1. iConst
        iConst April 11 2014 14: 40
        +5
        Quote: Sid.74
        Quote: olegarhiv
        What can I say, well done Poles. Develop their own production.

        The Americans from the Americans got stuck with the 3D printer! laughingI especially like the rivets on the cases!

        And the shutter at the top (classics) is obviously inconvenient to cock - a small one and the prickles get in the way.
        I'll see how they will treat her in the cold.

        I remember from army practice: I was once on guard — night, a frost, a sheepskin coat, several mittens worn — and the thought — what if someone gets in now, how quickly I can deal with the machine gun. While I was walking, I set up an experiment.
        Xrenushki! The automatic belt is fully released, but still do not deploy it directly - you need to remove it. In the sheepskin coat he fumbled for 30 seconds, until he got out! The attempt to remove the fuse in puffy mittens ended in complete failure - I had to remove my gloves! Well, I managed to pull the shutter lever on the second attempt :))).

        So - if someone came for the barrel (most attacks on guards to get weapons) - I would not have time to do anything.
  4. Svetovod
    Svetovod April 11 2014 08: 40
    +5
    Tricky fields - outside YES - something new here. But looking closely at a full-sized rifle, you can see the American SCAR in it, but less protected from sand. Bullpap is also familiar. Let them switch to 5.56x45,.
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 April 11 2014 13: 46
      0
      Quote: Svetovod
      But looking at a full-size rifle, you can see the American SCAR in it,

      amerikosy (I don’t remember the company) created a similar KIT for AK 47-74, no photo (the screw flew) ...
    2. k_ply
      k_ply April 12 2014 18: 19
      +1
      Quote: Svetovod
      Let them switch to 5.56x45,.

      All modifications of the AK-90 have already passed (otherwise they would not have joined NATO), starting with the "tantals" and "onyxes" (early 74s) and late "beryls".
      1. ant-eater
        ant-eater 26 May 2014 19: 35
        0
        Tantalum / Onyx - 5,45 mm caliber.
        To date, the most common assault rifle in the Polish army is the good old AKM.
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  5. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat April 11 2014 09: 07
    +3
    Skar and Tar. Find differences.
  6. Dragon-y
    Dragon-y April 11 2014 09: 11
    0
    In the doubles picture, the bottom one - well, just a Uberwfl from the game "Chaser - Remember Everything" ...
  7. Hort
    Hort April 11 2014 09: 32
    0
    created your own ... Only apparently the basis for SCAR is taken
  8. luiswoo
    luiswoo April 11 2014 09: 46
    +6
    At the same time, experts note that in appearance the Polish MSBS-5,56 rifle is very similar to the American Bushmaster ACR rifle.

    Most likely, this is a "new rifle", nothing more than a license for the Bushmaster ACR purchased along with the production line. Pride probably does not allow us to say that they were only enough to change the license provider. By the way, Poland, in the English wiki, is listed as the only user of ACR.
  9. Alexander.B
    Alexander.B April 11 2014 10: 04
    +6
    Gentlemen, explain to me - what is the fundamental difference between the new weaponry and everything that we saw in the 20th century? No one has really come up with anything new. The only thing that is really interesting is the work of Soviet / Russian gunsmiths from the 70s - 90s. They were not recognized only by the time and finances of the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Now it is somehow sad to look at the "new" small arms. I want to note that I said all this about an automatic weapon with an intermediate cartridge, designed to be regular in the army and the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
    1. understudy
      understudy April 11 2014 11: 16
      +3
      The only difference is in the numerous trendy little sticks surrounding the barrel and receiver. Workmanship, materials used ... even this is repeated. The new principles of automation are not yet observed. request
    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet April 12 2014 03: 05
      0
      No one has really come up with a new one. [/ Quote]
      For example, the German G-11 assault rifle, with cartridgeless cartridges and original mechanics.
      1. anomalocaris
        anomalocaris April 12 2014 07: 19
        0
        Well, here you are wrong. G-11, certainly an interesting system, but there were forerunners.
  10. DimYang
    DimYang April 11 2014 10: 14
    -1
    The design is really like SCAR. What is there inside?
  11. Navy7981
    Navy7981 April 11 2014 10: 28
    +2
    Outwardly, in my opinion, a beautiful weapon, as in deed, it is necessary to look in deed as well.
  12. sychovseroga
    sychovseroga April 11 2014 11: 09
    0
    SCAR design and AK insides
    1. ant-eater
      ant-eater 26 May 2014 19: 38
      0
      Rather, the AR-18.
  13. alex-cn
    alex-cn April 11 2014 11: 23
    +3
    The design is even earlier, a bullpup based on AK from Valmet, only a modern body kit.
  14. ddd1975
    ddd1975 April 11 2014 11: 51
    +2
    in such a "case" you can shove anything you like and whistle - they say they themselves choked. I wonder what the spread - if it claims to be a rifle?
  15. Greenhorn
    Greenhorn April 11 2014 12: 04
    +2
    Beautiful, like toys. Here's what bothers me: if this (or similar semi-plastic) unit in a thirty-degree frost will flicker on stones, will it not fall apart?
    1. Alexander.B
      Alexander.B April 11 2014 12: 08
      0
      and in Poland there are frosts?
    2. dustycat
      dustycat April 11 2014 17: 23
      0
      Glass carboolite products were kept frost in any variations.
      Fiberglass completely keeps blows in the cold.
      And this is shoved into liquid nitrogen and dropped onto a steel sheet.
      It will be seen there.
  16. tchoni
    tchoni April 11 2014 12: 15
    0
    I’m wondering: it’s like a novelty, but it seems like it isn’t if the same thing, then something similar has happened more than once. so the Poles, unless they can count on their orders, well, or give someone a loan, so that they would buy their rifles with this money.
  17. Logos
    Logos April 11 2014 13: 12
    +1
    Quote: sychovseroga
    SCAR design and AK insides

    This shushpangever has a short gas piston stroke, as stated in the article, so he has nothing to do with AK
  18. Anton Gavrilov
    Anton Gavrilov April 11 2014 14: 43
    +1
    Even the article says that it hurts a lot like ACR.
  19. Alexey Prikazchikov
    Alexey Prikazchikov April 11 2014 15: 31
    -4
    Well, why can the Poles and we pull out this ak 12 and aek?
    1. dustycat
      dustycat April 11 2014 17: 24
      +1
      Well, take AK and coat it with epoxy.
      Will it get much better?
    2. iConst
      iConst April 11 2014 19: 42
      +1
      Quote: Alexey Prikazchikov
      Well, why can the Poles and we pull out this ak 12 and aek?

      Why didn’t you please? It is necessary to distinguish between what and what is intended. For their tasks, a good weapon.
      Kalash was (and is) an ideal machine for the draft army.
      1. Alexey Prikazchikov
        Alexey Prikazchikov April 11 2014 20: 02
        -4
        Why didn’t you please? It is necessary to distinguish between what and what is intended. For their tasks, a good weapon.
        Kalash was (and is) an ideal machine for the draft army.


        Yes, calm down, in the next 20 decades, the draft army will disappear in Russia. We have no people for her.
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  20. Ilya Mikhalych
    Ilya Mikhalych April 11 2014 15: 49
    0
    Apparently, the Poles decided to follow the path of the Chinese. Well, good luck with that.
  21. MRomanovich
    MRomanovich April 11 2014 17: 17
    0
    Quote: Alexey Prikazchikov
    Why can the Poles ...

    can copy, remodel and wrap it in a new wrapper - this is what they really can
  22. Massik
    Massik April 11 2014 17: 36
    0
    The opening ceremony was associated with the completion of work and the commissioning of a new arms factory,
    Sadly, the "Hammer" somehow stumbled along ...
    In the photo where there is a young man with a rifle and an under-barrel grenade launcher, is he aiming at the rail with the main barrel ???))) Where everything is in a row, sighting on the classics is also not visible))
    2nd from the left, as I understand it, a light machine gun (judging by the shares on the barrel) Again, a drum reel will be presented instead of a magazine.
    Well, at least the fore-end did not cover the rails entirely, we will wait for new data.
  23. Gunslinger
    Gunslinger April 11 2014 19: 26
    +1
    Quote: Marssik
    2nd from the left, as I understand it, a light machine gun (judging by the shares on the barrel) Again, a drum reel will be presented instead of a magazine.

    Why a machine gun? Standard rifle, in my opinion.

    It looks like a poured ACR. A typical representative of modern small arms: maximum plasticity, modularity and futuristic design, especially in the bullpup.
    1. Massik
      Massik April 11 2014 23: 13
      0
      And why a standard rifle with longitudinal grooves on the barrel (maybe you don’t know what the dales are))) only for better cooling by increasing the surface in order to conduct intense fire, such on the trunks of the PCs of the first samples is clearly visible ...
      1. Gunslinger
        Gunslinger April 14 2014 08: 24
        0
        Maybe ... But it bothers the same barrel length for all 3 assault rifles. In the embodiment of a light machine gun, a longer and heavier barrel would look more logical.
  24. carabiner sks
    carabiner sks April 11 2014 20: 17
    0
    They drew proud Americans from the Americans. Gone from the police department, now suffer from severe hemorrhoids from the transition to NATO standards.
  25. kplayer
    kplayer April 11 2014 20: 49
    +2
    Quote: Gunslinger
    In appearance - spilled ACR.

    I agree, the "classic" is reminiscent of the Bushmaster ACR (5,56x45 NATO / 6,8x43 Remington SPC), it is not clear where they saw the similarity with SCAR.
  26. Alex 1977
    Alex 1977 April 11 2014 21: 27
    0
    Quote: kplayer
    SCAR

    Butt IMHO. From a distance it looks like SCARovsky.
  27. Vanya2013F
    Vanya2013F April 11 2014 21: 54
    +2
    XM8 mix with TAVOR
  28. Reserve officer
    Reserve officer April 11 2014 22: 43
    +3
    In a nutshell - a rifle of American roots with an incomprehensible tuning. This is not our own Polish production, but a "garage" rework of the ACR. And in general, if anyone is in the subject, please remind me, did the Poles have any worthy developments of their own in the field of any weapon? I don’t remember something.
    Fighting dog Sharik of "three tankers" does not count.
    1. k_ply
      k_ply April 12 2014 18: 14
      0
      Quote: Stock Officer
      In a nutshell - a rifle of American roots with an incomprehensible tuning. This is not our own Polish production, but a "garage" rework of the ACR.

      Judging by the lexicon, do you work in a car service?
      Quote: Stock Officer
      ... did the Poles have any decent developments of their own in the field of any weapon? I don’t remember something.

      To remember something, you first need to know, but generally not much for such a country, but there is something (like we have problems with launching in a series), including promising samples, for a glimpse:
      MBT PT-91 "Tvyardy" - a good option for modernizing the T-72
      Family of tracked armored vehicles "Anders" (light tank, infantry fighting vehicles, self-propelled guns, etc.)
      ZSU "Loara"
      ARB "Zubr", 4x4
      155-mm SPG "Crab"
      MLRS WR-40 "Langusta" and WR-300 "Homar"
      Helicopters W-3 "Sokol" / "Sokol-2" / "Anaconda", SW-4 and SW-5.
      1. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer April 14 2014 22: 18
        +4
        No, dear, not in a car service. And judging by your boast, you are much younger than me. Now I am the general director of special production. And in what, in what, and in technology, believe me, I understand.
        First, I asked for information.
        Secondly, I’m a military reserve officer and will ask more politely.
        Thirdly, to create decent weapons, three qualities are required (at least) - traditions, production culture, many years of experience. None of this exists in Poland. Why and interested.
        Thanks for the list.
        And further. The problems with launching the series are different. In Russia, there is a lot of competition in almost any type of weapon - the best models go into the series, and this, believe me, cannot be determined right away.
        And there is another. When a deliberately ordinary (or even worse) model is created, as in this case, therefore, no sane leader will put it on serial production. Rather, they will purchase a proven prototype.
        I apologize if I was too harsh.
        1. k_ply
          k_ply April 15 2014 00: 32
          +2
          A light reproach for vocabulary and did not ask about the nature of your occupation, if, as you think, is older than me, then use words and terms that are used or not used for general access by adult and technically competent people (without garage tuning and body kits for weapons)
          Your increased painful, vulnerable vulnerability is more characteristic of young people, and there are enough legends with stories about yourself, here (on topwar) there are plenty of them and it is not a matter of believing you or not, but simply there is no worthy of kicking about yourself and there is nothing to it.
          Here, with a production culture, busting, a concept relatively young and in the old Soviet times, could do without it and there was no need, because of the level of education and consciousness, if you like.
          I hate prejudiced arrogant attitudes towards other peoples towards their national armed forces, or industry and the type of "original" jokes about it.
          I don’t agree with the reasons explaining the lack of serial production, but rather I will ask a question that prompts thought:
          What was more or less serious over the past 25 years that has been adopted by the Russian army, which is significantly different from the developments of the Soviet period (i.e., the 80s of the beginning of development), which was created from scratch? - Combat aircraft and helicopters, tanks and armored vehicles, artillery and mortar systems, the main (machine guns and machine guns) small arms.
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  29. Bayonet
    Bayonet April 12 2014 03: 28
    +1
    Judging the quality and characteristics of weapons by their appearance (in this case, by photographs), to put it mildly, is not correct. There are still screams that Kalash was ripped off the German StG-44 assault rifle. But we know that this is not so. Everything is different there.
  30. MRomanovich
    MRomanovich April 12 2014 05: 12
    +1
    With all the desire, you cannot call MSBS-5,56 a "development". There are no Polish solutions inside and outside. The Poles only bothered to make as many changes as possible to the previously developed sample.
  31. russkijbelarus
    russkijbelarus April 12 2014 06: 00
    -1
    It would be better to come up with an LGBT vaccine ...
  32. Yves762
    Yves762 April 12 2014 09: 08
    +1
    I feel like they didn’t come up with it themselves (but they sawed a file for themselves ....
    In America, ACR did not popper, and that’s what they merged with the Poles.
  33. the47th
    the47th April 14 2014 08: 52
    +1
    Again useless modular rifle ... And again in plastic ... How much can you ?! I give the tooth that the design is exactly ripped off from the AR-18!
  34. bunta
    bunta April 14 2014 22: 33
    0
    This gadget, as I understand it, is an alternative to the tactical handle. And very worthwhile IMHO.
  35. SVA
    SVA April 17 2014 19: 55
    0
    When, in the end, you gentlemen, Russians finish the AK-12, damn it, the Poles are catching up with you.
    The aiming range is 400-600 meters, of course this will not say anything about the weapon, it would be interesting to know its range of a direct shot at the chest figure with a 406 mm barrel, etc. and how far the Lyakh Ak-74 retakes its 450 meters.