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Who is considered power in Ukraine

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The growing discontent of the South-East of Ukraine is a slow, but positive phenomenon. I would like to draw attention to the widespread view that the forces leading the protest today "on the front lines" formulated their demands with some inexplicable difficulties. Perhaps the point is the temporary separation of the leading forces. But today I would like to emphasize one important feature that is present in one form or another in the tone of all the demands of different groups of the Southeast. Namely - almost all of them refer to the “de facto” authorities in Kiev. But the very existence of the subject of the appeal already makes the group that seized power almost real power.

So are people in Kiev the power of Ukraine? By all indications - no. Of course, we have to talk with them, as they really represent some part of today's Ukraine. But this is not power, but power seized. That is how they should be addressed. After Yanukovych’s treachery, the balance in the Verkhovna Rada (BP), which was legal (maybe not moral, but legal), was finally broken. Addressing BP either in statements or manifestos means recognizing that BP is the current temporarily legal part of the state apparatus!

The danger of this status is obvious. If local people turn to "the authorities," then the "authorities" are also entitled to their imperious opinion. And she - this power - behaves exactly like this today.

In times of coups, legislative functions should automatically pass into the hands of local people. The litmus test of democracy or the level of preparedness for democracy is precisely how the representatives of local authorities, endowed with such functions by the people in their places of residence, will come to an agreement with themselves. How they will modify the constitution. And what forms of further leadership of the country will they choose?

In the light of the above, the Southeast should stop turning to the Kiev group as real power. Representatives of the people on the ground today have (or should have) exactly the same status in terms of political decisions.

Having explained their position to the people, local groups should clearly and clearly explain this position to former representatives of the executing agencies - the police, troops, prosecutors and security forces, mayors and city administrations of all sizes.

This must be done long before the elections, which the junta has appointed for May. And if this does not work out, the elections should be actively (!) Ignored in all regions where they disagree with the appropriation of power by the group in Kiev.
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  1. ambiorix
    ambiorix April 11 2014 08: 04
    +1
    The growth of discontent is slow but steady. Take, for example, the main coordination group of resistance SE "Antimaydan" Vkontakte. Psomotrel in the morning, then in the evening, during the day the group added 5-6 thousand people.

    http://vk.com/antimaydan
    1. Niki
      Niki April 11 2014 08: 26
      +1
      And how many thousands of users from Ukraine are in these 5-6?
      1. Corsair
        Corsair April 11 2014 08: 33
        +4
        Quote: Niki
        And how many thousands of users from Ukraine are in these 5-6?
        Ukrainians do not always have time to sit in contact, you know, things are IMPORTANT ...

        (Kharkov, though 08.04.2014, but the picture explains the employment)
        1. killganoff
          killganoff April 11 2014 08: 41
          +2
          A couple of cocktails would be there ...
          1. Corsair
            Corsair April 11 2014 10: 55
            0
            Quote: killganoff
            A couple of cocktails would be there ...

            Why is it so harsh? (Not yet time) .People are protesting peacefully ... It is enough, for example, a potato tuber in the exhaust pipe of a bus, to stop it and force the "gulchatay" to show its face ...
            Kharkiv citizens O-O-O-CHEN would like to get acquainted with visiting guests ...
      2. CALL.
        CALL. April 11 2014 08: 52
        +7
        So are people in Kiev the power of Ukraine? By all indications, no.


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  2. maks-101
    maks-101 April 11 2014 08: 04
    +5
    walk the field of power is not where the junta and the gang rules the ball.
    1. Very old
      Very old April 11 2014 08: 10
      +3
      On anarchy and pseudo-power

      Truly: walk, walk, walk
      1. infinite silence ...
        infinite silence ... April 11 2014 10: 29
        +2


        NO authorities!
      2. infinite silence ...
        infinite silence ... April 11 2014 10: 31
        +1


        What else can we talk about! And this is on the Odessa Liberation Day!
        Please note! Woman!
  3. Name
    Name April 11 2014 08: 05
    +1
    There are many authorities in Ukraine, but there is no order, which means there is no Authority either. hi
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    2. alexng
      alexng April 11 2014 09: 15
      +1
      Power in Ukraine lies on Earth. Whoever picks it up in the Southeast will rule. So it is necessary to change the rhetoric and in the regions to select lying power in their own hands.

      Shine always. Shine everywhere.
      Shines and not any nails!
      Here is my slogan and the sun!
      (Mayakovsky)
  4. hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh April 11 2014 08: 11
    +1
    There are enough protesting people in the cities of the South-East. Capture Radu in Kiev. Give "Maidan 3.0"!
    1. serega.fedotov
      serega.fedotov April 11 2014 08: 29
      +1
      Quote: hhhhhhh
      There are enough protesting people in the cities of the South-East. Capture Radu in Kiev. Give "Maidan 3.0"!

      Holy holy holy! N.A.Hr.E.N.a Russia Kiev with natsyk? We have a lot of hemorrhoids without them. As long as the power of natsyks is needed so that there is someone to separate from the southeast! Beneg of Dnipropetrovsk and Kharkiv, Natsykov himself will be expelled, and he will ask for Russia!
      And the accession of the Ukrainian territories by SEPARATE AND INDEPENDENT TERRITORIAL EDUCATIONS is unprofitable and necessary!
  5. V1451145
    V1451145 April 11 2014 08: 14
    +3
    Nobody rules Ukraine ... They collected a shobla under the guise of ruling. They are the first and will fly. Ukraine is ruled similarly from another country. Which one you can guess yourself ... We gathered a sabbath on the Maidan and at the top of their lungs "Ukraine tse Europe or moska.l.e. on knives" think! We are with you on knives !!!
    1. V1451145
      V1451145 April 11 2014 08: 27
      +2
      And this is democracy ??????
    2. dimdimich71
      dimdimich71 April 11 2014 08: 29
      +1
      Lyashko only has time to turn and the atomic squire to open his mouth
    3. Patriot.ru.
      Patriot.ru. April 11 2014 08: 39
      0
      Not on knives, but on some kind of spigot, if I understand correctly, the spigot is a gallows.
    4. Name
      Name April 11 2014 08: 47
      +5
      Quote: V1451145
      Gathered a sabbath on the Maidan and at the top of their lungs "Ukraine tse Europe or m.s.k.a.l.e. on knives" think! We are with you on knives !!!

      For PACE, OSCE, all this is democracy, and a referendum in Crimea is an occupation ... They are "enlightened", but in Russia "savages" are Asians, do not understand the "charms" of gay European ...
      1. COLUN
        COLUN April 11 2014 09: 20
        +1
        That's really so true - "If there were no boobies, there would be no Maidans."
        Do not add not take away ...
    5. Egoza
      Egoza April 11 2014 09: 12
      +1
      Quote: V1451145
      No one rules Ukraine

      You are mistaken! the US ambassador rules us.
      "According to rumors (unverified) tomorrow (ie today) Rabbit will promise Donetsk something ... like" negotiations ".
      http://s6.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2014/04/5858858c4f93987e86e35ad53aa

      2236d.jpg
  6. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN April 11 2014 08: 25
    +1
    The junta under the knee-elections of his own power and clear requirements, otherwise they were like Kiev, today there, tomorrow back ...
  7. Per se.
    Per se. April 11 2014 08: 31
    +5
    Whatever Yanukovych may seem in the light of recent events in Ukraine, he is currently the only legally elected president. Why does Russia not use this fact? Why isn’t Yanukovych sent to the southeast of Little Russia, why isn’t a new government created under his leadership as opposed to the Bandera gang? We will wait until the junta is legalized, and this should not be allowed. We are threatened with sanctions, but Russia should threaten with sanctions by the United States, the gangster country, more than once brazenly correcting all the rules of international law. Probably, it's time to create your own international court on the basis of countries that are not the sixes of America. The world is divided and will not be different anymore, there is Russia and the Russian world, justice and decency, and there is the USA, a satanic pack that has long lost its most elementary virtue. Good and Evil, and in this event in Ukraine, is the litmus of this struggle, either we or we are not given a third.
  8. alexdol
    alexdol April 11 2014 08: 47
    +4
    "In the light of the above, the South-East should stop referring to the Kiev group as a real power. Representatives of the people on the ground today have (or should have) absolutely the same status in terms of political decisions."
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    I completely agree with the author! I often tell people the same thing, but for some reason not everyone succeeds in proving this obvious thing ?! It is time for the "Kiev" junta to stop demanding a referendum, but simply to HOLD it !!
  9. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 11 2014 08: 51
    +3
    The junta has no right to be called legitimate authority by definition. Regional authorities have full power in their regions, but those who have recognized the junta as power automatically become on a par with it (the junta) and lose their legitimacy. In this case, the people, as a source of power in Ukraine, need to take power into their own hands, sprouts of this are observed in Donetsk and Lugansk. But to sit, locked in administrative buildings, to doom yourself to failure in advance. It is necessary, having created its own power structures, to take over all the other bodies of state power in the region.
  10. santush
    santush April 11 2014 08: 53
    +1
    Election-boycott !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  11. mamont5
    mamont5 April 11 2014 08: 56
    +4
    Power in Ukraine? Legally, Yanukovych. In fact, no one. Really - who is stronger is right.
  12. asar
    asar April 11 2014 09: 03
    +5
    Yanuca to the east of Ukraine! The only way! Needed, vital counterbalance to Kiev! Stop hiding behind Russian portoki and skirts!
  13. 120352
    120352 April 11 2014 09: 14
    +3
    The question posed in the title is somewhat provocative: "Who is considered the power in Ukraine." And you in your own Constitution (I hardly forced myself to write this word with a capital letter) look. It also contains the answer: The source of power is the people of Ukraine (and it is simply illiterate to write this word with a capital letter).
    Is the "Ukrainian people", and all at once, Turchynov, surrounding and containing him the predators-bandits and Bandera gopota? To make it easier to answer, let's see whose interests they serve? Ie, who pays them? Obviously, not the people of Ukraine! The people don't pay. They just rob him. Therefore, as you know, "he who pays calls the tune." But this music is alien. Strong Anglo-Saxon and Gay European motives. So strong it hurts your ears. And where is "the only source of power, the people"? And the people are waiting for an assault from those who considered themselves to be in power, i.e. by the usurpers. The situation is absurd, both from the side of Natural Law, and from the side of the Social Contract, and from the side of that very constitution. Power in Ukraine today belongs to the bandits! If the Ukrainians are satisfied with this, they should be beaten, and if not (which is what I hope), the usurpers should be beaten.
    Speaking of NATO ships in the Black Sea. But isn’t it time for them to start bumping into mines left over from World War II? After all, we can, as a result, even express sympathy and bring up the rescued sailors for education ...
  14. mackonya
    mackonya April 11 2014 09: 15
    0
    "Vlast" is not represented in Ukraine by definition (legal). There is only acting, that's why we see that chaos on the streets of all cities of Ukraine. And the elections in any way will not be successful, all the same, international observers will not be able to recognize the legality of the elections if the whole South-East does not come to the polling stations.
    1. avia1991
      avia1991 April 11 2014 12: 46
      0
      When are election results beneficial to geyropers not recognized by observers ?! They demonstrated their ideals by voting in PACE. .. So you want to bite Russia, that even with the devil are ready to kiss!
  15. Auralski
    Auralski April 11 2014 09: 15
    +2
    A very good article to the point!
    Take power into your own hands, and not wave banners in the direction of Kiev!
  16. Leshka
    Leshka April 11 2014 09: 55
    +1
    the only ruler of Ukraine is Putin laughing
  17. Little Muck
    Little Muck April 11 2014 09: 58
    +1
    I read the article - not bad, comments - a lot of reasonable, even more than ideas. You can even put together a "hodgepodge" of how and what to do. One question. That there is no common sense left in Ukraine? We cannot help (yet) with a real presence, but it is not aroused ideologically. Can still send our ideologists. Have an asset formulated with a clear plan of action and statements. That is to say, direct it to the "right channel", or maybe the "channel" is already correct? Maybe that's how it should be? Who? Hopefully for us.
  18. Oleg Prophetic
    Oleg Prophetic April 11 2014 10: 02
    0
    Yes, no need to wind the junta with power, it’s just like degenerates in the inhabited island, they don’t deserve to
  19. avia1991
    avia1991 April 11 2014 12: 39
    0
    Russia does not recognize the legitimacy of the Kiev "authorities", and legally this is absolutely correct. BUT! The West accepts these subhumans as representatives of Ukraine, and behaves with them as with a legitimate government. The power ministries are also subordinate to these scumbags. And Russia does not conduct a dialogue with anyone, pursuing a policy of "observance of international law and non-interference in the internal affairs of another state." In this situation, activists of the South-East may, of course, try not to perceive the interim government as power. But, being left to themselves, they will simply "die" as a political force, since all economic and power levers are in the hands of the enemy. So it would be more correct for now to speak with Kiev as with "power": the main task is to conduct a referendum and obtain the status of a federal subject!
  20. sv68
    sv68 April 11 2014 13: 00
    0
    and there’s no one to consider, there is no power there, but there is a power-like imitation of ukroinoy’s control. In short, Bandera. With them we are not on the way, of course we need to destroy them
  21. sled beach
    sled beach April 27 2014 12: 30
    0
    It would be better if the author as a resident of Canada described the state of affairs and the reaction of the media of Canada to everything that happened, it would be more informative.