Unexpectedly: economic sanctions as a justification for the lethargy of domestic state economists

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After the reunification of the Crimea and Sevastopol with Russia, they began to actively discuss not only the political nuances of this process, but also its economic impact on the financial system of the Russian Federation. A circle of people who are happy to share horror stories with the masses that the Republic of Crimea and the city of federal subordination Sevastopol will “devour” a considerable part of the Russian budget was determined, hitting the growth rate of the Russian economy. From such horror stories, many really became bad, judging by the discussions in the press and in social networks, salary, fresh air and even psychologist consultations were needed ...

A reunion will “strike at growth rates”? .. It’s really scary, but only in one case: if you don’t know what growth rates our economy has completed with 2013. If someone has forgotten, it must be recalled that following the results of last year, the Russian economic system added "as much" 1,3% ... And, as far as I remember, in the 2013 year, our country did not increase at all with new territorial units.

In this regard, talks about the fact that the entry of two new subjects into Russia will lead to horrific consequences for the Russian economy are more like attempts to justify far from the most outstanding in the successful direction the steps of state economists. Moreover, they are determined to conduct a kind of justifiable policy of themselves and these same state economists.

Thus, the International Monetary Fund has published information, according to which the growth rate of the Russian economy and at the end of the current year will be 1,3%. State economists openly say in true modesty that they will not pull 1,3%. Like, Ukrainian events, the Crimea, Western sanctions and all that. It is said that if pulled, then only an increase in 1,1% and then with the addition of a mass of favorable conditions. Otherwise, 0,5% does. That is the forecast from the Ministry of Economic Development for 2014 year.

Unexpectedly: economic sanctions as a justification for the lethargy of domestic state economists


One of the main conditions for the state economists designated 1,1% of Russian growth to be pulled is the repeal (modification) of the so-called budget rule. At the same time, Andrei Klepach, deputy head of the Ministry of Economic Development, speaks golden words:

If we have growth rates near zero, it is obvious that we need to do something.


And you can't argue with this ingenious phrase. As the saying goes: who's stopping? Poke your finger. To do something “really necessary,” and it is gratifying that such an idea has occurred to the employees of the economic segment of the cabinet of ministers. Somewhat strange is that it comes only today, when almost a third of the year is already behind. It is also strange that no one in the ministry had any thoughts on “whether to take up work” even when, instead of 2012 predicted at the end of 3,5% of growth, the economy at the end of 2013 produced only 1,3 percent. Solid oddities ...

But now, at least, there is a weighty excuse: everything would be much better if it were not for the “damned” Ukraine and not this fiction of the Washington White House ... With such arguments, manage the economy, judging by everything, where it is more convenient. After all, in the case of even a small increase, you can declare that, say, the cabinet of ministers, overcoming enormous external pressure, nevertheless led Russia to economic advantages. Well, and if growth does not take place, so the Russians will understand, forgive - we are not guilty - sanctions, you know ...

In the same Ministry of Economic Development already now, as if justifying the unintelligible economic results in the country, they say: capital outflows can amount to 150 billion dollars, inflation - 6%, and this will not allow the economy to grow more or less actively. For comparison: the average outflow in 2008-2011 was $ 76 billion, in 2012 - about $ 57 billion, in 2013 - $ 62,7 billion - Central Bank data, $ 80,5 - data from so-called independent economic institutions.

That is, it turns out that the outflow of Russian capital from the country this year may be twice as large as the outflow during the peak years of the crisis of 2008-2010. And this at a time when the West, as it turned out, “already” applied two whole packages of economic sanctions against us ... (The third package is going to be applied if, quote: "Russia will act in the south-east of Ukraine in the same way as it acted in the Crimea"). Does it need to be understood that for reunification with the Crimea we are already, as they say, punished with “two packages”? And is it necessary, based on the forecasts of the Ministry of Economic Development, to understand that the Ministry of Economic Development itself “relies” on these sanctions more than those who introduce them against Russia?

Well, in fact, what prevents the economic government sector from gathering its strength, and now due to the difficult economic situation and political turmoil at the borders of Russia to impose control over capital outflows, as has been done in a number of East Asian countries for a long time? If it is not possible to introduce such control, then it is more than suspicious. It is also suspicious that, for any reason related to the negative in the Russian economy, it has now become fashionable to nod either to reunion with the Crimea, or to the worried Donbass, or to the clearly not accented “sanction packages” from the EU.

By the way, one of those state officials who oppose and modify the budget rule, and any changes in economic policy in general today is none other than Anton Siluanov - Minister of Finance. According to Mr. Siluanov, active actions in the economy today may scare off investors.

And here is a strange logic: when the representatives of the economic sector of the government of the Russian Federation themselves give forecasts for economic growth even lower than the IMF forecast, it turns out that investors are not afraid of Russia, but the actions aimed at stimulating the economy by the government, why they should be scared away ... So if an internal or external investor is worried that a quality barrier will be put to his uncontrolled withdrawal of capital from Russia, then we are such an investor, as they say, and not for nothing, and not money with it ... For such "investors" in the Criminal Code there is a special concept - "fraudsters".
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  1. gsg955
    +12
    April 11 2014 07: 50
    Siluyanov-agent of the Washington Printing Office.
    1. +3
      April 11 2014 07: 56
      work is underway, the economy is working and recovering is not a simple process, but you can write anything you want, and the simplest thing is to pour mud on everything and everyone.
      1. +11
        April 11 2014 08: 19
        Quote: maks-xnumx
        work is underway, the economy is working and recovering is not a simple process, but you can write anything you want, and the simplest thing is to pour mud on everything and everyone.

        1% is work? Would you like such workers to work for you?
        1. +32
          April 11 2014 08: 34
          Interest is generally a relative term.
          If you had 2 apples, then having received another one, you will increase your "apple capital" by 50%, but if you had 100 apples, then increasing by 10% - you will get 10 apples. It seems that the growth is less, but you will eat more apples. This is if, for example, we compare the economic growth of the Russian Federation or some kind of Lithuania-Latvia. It can also be compared with the growth of the economy of China and the Russian Federation. Then you need to see how many mouths you share these 10 apples. For 2 or 20. And it also turns out that in the first case it turns out that everyone will receive 5 apples, and in the second - half. And it can also be compared with the growth of the US economy. This is if you crawl under an apple skin and see what is there, an apple (cars, oil, clothes) or air (services, trading on the stock exchange and profit from stocks). Apples of the latter type will generally be very problematic to eat.
          1. +13
            April 11 2014 10: 26
            By the way, one of those government officials who oppose both the modification of the budget rule and any changes in economic policy in general today is none other than Anton Siluanov, the Minister of Finance.

            Siluanov is the second Kudrin, a conserved agent of the West, like Gorbachev, Chubais, and other liberals. First, it is necessary to cleanse the government of the liberals, because apart from harm, they do nothing because they work out orders from the west.
            1. +5
              April 11 2014 12: 35
              First of all, the author panics, or rather, he escalates. For the field for criticism is getting narrower and narrower every year. Over the past 2-3 years, several very popular memes have already died, which were widely used to discredit the Darkest One, and only the most tenacious ones remained, which the "bloody regime" had not yet reached. What will you write about when the rate will be 3-4%, and Superjets with MC-21 will take off 2 a week? When will we begin to export bulk polymers and microcircuits? I advise you to think about it now.

              Quote: maks-xnumx
              work is underway, the economy is working and recovering is not a simple process, but you can write anything you want, and the simplest thing is to pour mud on everything and everyone.


              As Roosevelt said (it seems), "There are a lot of people in our country who know how to wage wars, develop the economy and conduct politics, but unfortunately, they are all already working as hairdressers, waiters and postmen."

              As they say, 1,3% is completely our 1,3%, and not the 0,5% of the EU (our main trading partner) that it made with a state debt of 60% of GDP ...

              China itself, having a completely different political system, low salaries, the absence of social institutions in the form of pensions, benefits or compulsory medical insurance and a warm climate, makes only 6% ... and yes, they also spoke about the low outflow of capital from Asia, so China has for ten years, the leader in this very outflow or export or flight, each iskberd chooses the term he needs for his article
              1. +1
                April 13 2014 11: 14
                As they say, 1,3% is completely our 1,3%, and not the 0,5% of the EU (our main trading partner) that it did with a public debt of 60% of GDP ..
                For Russia, 1,3% is not enough! And the "outflow" of capital, like the "inflow", is basically "short money", "speculative". There is no outflow of "long money" (5-10 years), although the inflow is small. Russia has full of its reserves for investments in its economy, and WE "beg" money all over the world, and we invest ours in American and European "securities", and we talk about a "favorable investment climate", draw regular "road maps" and state " negative trends ". We need a different team, real "red directors" and not liberal speculators. We have 300-400 billion of "green" (from oil and gas) goes to the purchase of imports ranging from machines to sausages and cowards. We need a "coalition" government of the type " Primakovsky "during the 1998 crisis. This "Liberast" team cannot do anything, and the sooner it reaches EVERYONE (the President, the State Duma), the sooner the normal development of the country will begin.
                1. Lensky
                  0
                  April 13 2014 17: 46
                  On the 17th, Putin will talk with the people, consult and decide. Then everything will turn around and work. What kind of economic recovery will happen! Yes, we will regain the title of superpower in two or three years and we won’t look back at any sanctions, but we’ll apply to the naughty. Which for our products, both material and intellectual, will be recorded for many years to come. We will trade exclusively finished high-tech products.
                  Eh !! Dreams, dreams. (((
        2. +7
          April 11 2014 09: 03
          Quote: Kazakh
          1% is work? Would you like such workers to work for you?

          If you took this attitude on faith, tady, for comparison, I also suggest that you familiarize yourself with "Red Thursday", April 10 this year, on the US stock exchanges (as geopolitical opponents): Biotechs -6%, Nasdaq -3.2%, Russell 2000 -3.1%, S&P "Growth" -2.5%, Financials -2.2%, Social Media ETF -4% (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-10/deer-back-nasdaq-suffers- biggest-loss-
          nov-2011).
          Not sure what this means? According to NASDAQ alone, the decrease in the value of the assets of American companies amounted to about 500 billion of their "dead presidents". And what happened, the workers suck?
          But just now the op was like "Russia lost 100 billion because of the Crimea" and other nonsense, but what about now? The States have not "invaded" anywhere (they have already invaded) - so the point is different? And not at all in the "workers", not to mention the scribbling ...
          1. +5
            April 11 2014 09: 32
            Quote: Kurkul
            Curcul (

            If everything had been favorably in monetary or material terms, the government would have definitely taken advantage of this. In the USSR, they were not shy to tell how many machines, planes, tractors, etc. were made, but now they are shy for some reason. I have vague suspicions. And faceless percentages are chosen by chance.
            1. +5
              April 11 2014 09: 49
              Quote: Kazakh
              If everything was favorably in monetary or material terms, the government would certainly take advantage of this.

              Personally, at this stage, I do not see a "bearer of good news" in the government, but "how many machines, aircraft, tractors, etc. have been manufactured" is not difficult to find, but everything is learned in comparison with a certain past period. Compared to 2012, for example, in the 13th, the dynamics was upward, and in the coming 14th, and the land with people has already increased (or rather, returned). For me, this is a huge progress in the development of the Russian Federation, but without sufficient production of "machine tools, aircraft, tractors, etc." this would not have happened, would it?
            2. +5
              April 11 2014 12: 54
              Quote: Kazakh
              And faceless percentages are chosen by chance.

              Exactly!
              This is the only way to prove that "Putin's economy" is dying and not viable. And already used gross domestic product deflator - this is a great song of the liberals! It supposedly allows you to determine real changes in the volume of production of goods and services in the economy laughing
              The guys here made the calculation that if we used a deflator calculated for the United States, then the annual growth of Russia's GDP from 2003 to present in dollar terms would be at the level of 18-21%. Here you have it at HSE in action.
              There is a big lie, but there is a HSE and its overseas training manuals.

              And it’s even pleasing, let the West continue to advance in self-praise until the day of X.
              1. jjj
                +1
                April 11 2014 22: 36
                Very curious. Although the very concept of a GDP deflator, in my opinion, is more fair than stupidly inferring curves of dependence between rising retail prices, foreign exchange quotes and voiced inflation rates
          2. dik-fort
            +1
            April 11 2014 12: 07
            Interest rates on stock exchanges and percentages on GDP are absolutely not identical in their fundamental importance. The stock market is dominated by a game of speculative capital, quotes are driven up and down, and the "virtual" capitalization of companies is also changing. Likewise, with the "capital outflow" from Russia, speculative money leaves the stock market, non-residents sell stocks-bonds, buy dollar-euros and withdraw money home, this money does not particularly affect the real sector, as, for example, the Polyus company Gold “gold is still extracting, well, the share price has fallen in 2 years from 1900 to 560 rubles, this does not affect production (profit), only the price of the final product - gold, affects.
            1. 0
              April 11 2014 13: 41
              Quote: dik-fort
              Interest on stock exchanges and interest on GDP in its fundamental value are absolutely not identical.

              Let me disagree, because American economics is very dependent on these indices, therefore - on the "" virtual "capitalization of companies" too, that's how it works. But the context of my post was not about the identical functioning of the types of capital ownership, but about the dependence of profitability on the management structure - in the indicated scales, this can be neglected (to a certain extent).
        3. 0
          April 11 2014 22: 59
          are you special in economics?
          Well, look at the growth in Europe, maybe you realize something. The economy is growing rapidly to a certain level, and then sluggish growth, as stagnation is called.
          Example: Ukraine will have a very large drop in GDP in 2014. But after the fall, as a rule, rapid growth and a return to the original level.
      2. +2
        April 11 2014 08: 56
        This is not work, this is the collapse of the economic slowdown, only accurate.
      3. +2
        April 11 2014 10: 30
        Quote: maks-xnumx
        work is underway, the economy is working and recovering is not a simple process, but you can write anything you want, and the simplest thing is to pour mud on everything and everyone.

        Work or job visibility?
        Something immediately recalled which dancers always interfere with something ... fool
      4. 0
        April 13 2014 10: 45
        "the economy is working and recovering"- this is not thanks to this government, but in spite of it! This government has been drawing" road maps "for the second year already, ascertaining" negative trends ", and begging for money at all" forums "and" summits "from the whole world. It cannot even organize their work is not just to ensure any acceptable growth of the country's economy, and this despite the fact that Russia has EVERYTHING for this !! It has money, energy resources, human capital,there is no brain or desire to change something for the better.
    2. +5
      April 11 2014 08: 05
      State economists need to be transplanted from chairs worth 100 rubles. on the bunks. Maybe more brains.
      I still do not see a single sensible economist
      1. +8
        April 11 2014 08: 20
        Glazyev. Belousov. Klepach is also quite intelligible. There are just too many liberalists. Everyone needs to be dispersed, and first of all, HSE is a hotbed of liberalism.
    3. +4
      April 11 2014 13: 22
      The main investor should be Russia itself, and not financial speculators like Soros. And the problems will disappear immediately.
    4. +6
      April 11 2014 14: 13
      Quote: gsg955
      Siluyanov-agent of the Washington Printing Office.

      and meanwhile -
      On the morning of April 11, at the Moscow Book House on Novy Arbat, opposite the editorial office of Echo of Moscow, a banner appeared with the inscription “The Fifth Column. Aliens among us. ” Responsibility for the stretch was assumed by the Glavplakat.ru art site, which thus “went offline.”

      The seven-meter poster depicted portraits of Yuri Shevchuk, Andrei Makarevich, Alexei Navalny, Boris Nemtsov and Ilya Ponomarev, as well as two characters from the science fiction film “Aliens”.


      Read in full: http://www.km.ru/v-rossii/2014/04/11/aleksei-navalnyi/737150-pokazavshie-ekhu-mo
      skvy-banner-o-pyatoi-kolonne-obyasnil
      1. jjj
        0
        April 11 2014 22: 38
        Quote: Rus2012
        On the morning of April 11, at the Moscow Book House on Novy Arbat, opposite the editorial office of Echo of Moscow, a banner appeared with the inscription “The Fifth Column. Alien among us "

        Bravely, however!
    5. +2
      April 11 2014 15: 55
      There are no economists with a normal pro-Russian position.
      There were rumors of a government purge, since how sooner this should happen.
      And how much money Russia is losing ....
      It’s because of the work of liberal economists in Russia that it’s hard to cope with sanctions and economic pressure, so foul Kudrin didn’t give us money in Russia for many years, he stuffed a European bitch, because German-French-Austrians developed their production and technologies on those grandmothers.
      That’s who to plant, to break at all, so it’s Kudrin + Chubais — all those who brought REAL financial damage to the country.
      1. jjj
        0
        April 11 2014 22: 29
        Today, the President instructed the Prosecutor General to conduct checks for corruption in a number of state structures
  2. +2
    April 11 2014 07: 54
    It has long been their time there (MED) to drive out all of them and introduce a partially planned economy
  3. +2
    April 11 2014 07: 55
    Well, maybe it’s possible for non-willing private traders to simply nationalize enterprises, but to offset the outflow of foreign capital by increasing investments from the domestic oligarchy (they’ll find ways feel), judging by everything the GDP brings to this. recourse
  4. 0
    April 11 2014 08: 05
    A change in the economic model in the conditions of the Ukrainian confrontation is inevitable, just this procedure is a process, not an act ..... Everything is ahead, in the sense of ours, but the American oligarchy has everything behind .....
    1. +1
      April 11 2014 08: 37
      With your lips. Indeed, only a change in the economic model can save Russia from big shocks in the event of a complete break with the West (except for China, and he is also on his mind). Here are just our oligarchs for this "poit" in no way "sting".
  5. 0
    April 11 2014 08: 17
    for any reason connected with the negative in the Russian economy it has now become fashionable to nod to reunion with Crimea
    Where there is one reason, the second will not hurt. This is about joining SE wink
  6. +1
    April 11 2014 08: 21
    Our economists, yes to the states, and there will be nothing to conquer ....
  7. +3
    April 11 2014 08: 25
    "unemployed" and officials ride the executive class, and once production is organized, tax authorities try to challenge all production costs, even direct ones. What growth can there be in the economy? At meetings in the administration I heard the following phrase: "Although we do not help you, you say thank you for not interfering."
  8. +3
    April 11 2014 08: 41
    Deputy Mayor Andrei Klepach utters golden words:
    If we have growth rates near zero, it is obvious that we need to do something.

    The liberoid government of M is afraid of pinching the tail of its oligarchy, even at the level of state enterprises. capital (golden parachutes are "closed" with difficulty), and the incomes of "shareholders" are off the charts, although they sell the national property.
    Further. The "base" of active economists is the Higher School of Economics, which over the past year "gave birth" to a forecast of professions in the future. I read it, got it up and understood - there is nothing to wait.

    Probably it's time to explain to Vinnie that the games in the oil industry are over and that he either works for the people, or - goodbye. The same should be brought to the attention of the oligarchs.

    The pressure on Russia is growing, which means that we need to consolidate ALL who feed and live in Russia. No other way stop .
  9. +4
    April 11 2014 08: 41
    It is written correctly, interestingly ... but why? Siluanov reads articles on this site? Or one of the bureaucrats? Someone suddenly does not care about the opinions of people and the fact that they are not blind and see everything? I doubt it.
    In power there are too many representatives of the 5th column, and even more of those who are in the country ... in a word do not care. Grandmas saw, incomes are hidden - what else is needed? To portray active work and spit on the people.
    By the way, let me remind you - Maidan at the end of that year began in Kiev more or less quietly, people came out who got the politics of thieves from the gang of Yanukovych. But almost immediately, Natsik and others joined the protesters, funded and sent from behind the hill.
    And in our country corruption, theft and other delights of "crap" are much more developed! And how can the people protest? You don't need your own Maidan for free, but how can you lay siege to internal enemies if they are not appeased and above the law?
    1. +3
      April 11 2014 12: 10
      Quote: erased
      It is written correctly, interestingly ... but why? Siluanov reads articles on this site? Or one of the bureaucrats? Someone suddenly does not care about the opinions of people and the fact that they are not blind and see everything? I doubt it.


      Siluanov and others do not read. But we read. Our questions and attempts to find answers to these questions, our disputes help us to become more competent, smarter. Perhaps in the future it will come in handy.
      Any action begins with анализа the current situation, which led to it. Then forecast how events will develop further. Based on the analysis and forecast adopted decision, what to do. And only then comes действие.
  10. olegfedorik
    +1
    April 11 2014 08: 43
    Quote: Flinky
    HSE is a hotbed of liberalism.

    +100
  11. Adzhimushkay
    +8
    April 11 2014 08: 46
    GDP is an idiotic indicator in itself. It takes into account the service sector and industry and finance, and xs what else. I did a manicure for you, you pedicured me, he gave both of us a massage, everyone paid each other, GDP grew, and what’s the outcome? horseradish dog! GDP should be counted in millions of tons of grain, in pieces of metal-cutting machines, etc. in real products.
    1. +2
      April 11 2014 09: 22
      Quote: Adzhimushkay
      It takes into account the service sector and industry and finance, and xs what else. I did a manicure for you, you pedicured me, he gave both of us a massage, everyone paid each other, GDP grew, and what’s the outcome? horseradish dog!

      When "doing" a manicure with a pedicure, do you use any tools or do you use natural remedies such as teeth? If tools and related materials, then they should be produced from something and somehow and delivered to you? Moreover, the room, light, water, etc. - in the aggregate, this is not a production for your life?
  12. +4
    April 11 2014 08: 51
    Very strange work is carried out by the Ministry of Economic Development, the Ministry of Finance and the Federal Tax Service. In particular, for legal entities working with a simplified taxation system, a property tax has been introduced. But on TV they talk about the support of small and medium-sized businesses and agricultural producers. Of course, excellent support, people specifically went to simplification in order to get rid of the excessive tax burden, thereby freeing up funds for the development and reduction of the cost of goods and services, and here you have business support in the form of an additional property tax. Great incentive measures. To stimulate tax evasion, concealment of assets, asset withdrawal. Wonderful action!
    1. +2
      April 11 2014 09: 39
      only last year half a million un closed. Are they living on savings? They work the same way, they just went into the shadows. And un with usn will do the same if Putin approves a new tax.
      1. 0
        April 11 2014 10: 05
        Quote: jktu66
        only last year half a million un closed. Are they living on savings? They work the same way, they just went into the shadows. And un with usn will do the same if Putin approves a new tax.

        Meanwhile, according to the tax assessment, only 26% of closed IPs paid taxes and carried out real activities. The rest - belonged to the number of unemployed and handed over zero declarations. Not everything is so simple ...
        1. +2
          April 11 2014 10: 24
          Just one of the forms of the simplified tax system is income minus expenses tax from the difference of 6%. Many deliberately deduce this difference to zero. This is called tax optimization. But they create jobs and along with them there are deductions to the Pension Fund, Social Insurance Fund, MHIF, as well as personal income tax. With a credit rate of 25% for legal entities, even for business development, what kind of development and transparency of activities can we talk about? I myself keep an LLC, I sit on the simplified tax system, the main activity is legal services for legal entities, including on taxation issues, I know what I'm talking about. You are aware that our IFTS are very fond of using the provisions of the Federal Law "On Insolvency (Bankruptcy)". As soon as the taxpayer owes the tax authorities the amount of money necessary to initiate the bankruptcy procedure, the tax authority immediately initiates such a procedure in the arbitration court. This is not support for small and medium-sized businesses, this is their destruction in the bud!
          1. 0
            April 11 2014 11: 06
            Quote: Kurkin
            Many specifically zero out this difference. This is called tax optimization.

            Maybe what you indicated is called a lawyer in another way?
            Quote: Kurkin
            With a loan rate of 25% for legal entities, even for business development, what kind of development and transparency of activity can we talk about?

            As far as I know, the average loan rates for legal entities in 2013 were 17-19% per annum, the minimum - 12%. But in this case, in addition to collateral, bank guarantees or third party guarantees are required. When borrowing without collateral and a bank guarantee - even up to 28% came, but there were other risks. But I will say one thing from experience: only air is produced from air, which can only contribute to the production of something like a living environment or to maintain a chemical. processes, but no more.
            Quote: Kurkin
            You are aware that our IFTS are very fond of using the provisions of the Federal Law "On Insolvency (Bankruptcy)".

            Yours - maybe, but not in the know - I have a different view of paying taxes, you see.
            Quote: Kurkin
            This is not support for small and medium-sized businesses, it is its destruction in the bud!

            Here we still need to figure out what "small and medium-sized businesses" are, under which ordinary speculation falls. Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but I don't consider the increase in the number of gum-stalls to be a business development (I'm exaggerating a little, but still). I repeat - not everything is so simple, too broad a topic for discussion within the framework of this forum.
            1. +1
              April 11 2014 11: 58
              Maybe what you indicated is called a lawyer in another way?
              Maybe according to another, maybe under the Criminal Code this action falls, if there is evidence. But this is always the case with us, for a stolen bag of potatoes 5 years of real imprisonment, and for the collapse of the army and the theft of assets of the Moscow Region, amnesty and an honorary adviser post are somewhere in the next state corporation.
              As far as I know, the average loan rates for legal entities in 2013 were 17-19% per annum, the minimum - 12%. But in this case, in addition to collateral, bank guarantees or third party guarantees are required.
              And where are the promised grants and soft loans to small businesses and agricultural producers? No collateral for a business loan can be seen at all!
              Yours - maybe, but not in the know - I have a different view of paying taxes, you see.
              In accordance with the Tax Code, the tax authority has the right to provide an installment plan for the payment of taxes without interest. You know, it stimulates business development better than initiating bankruptcy.
              Here we still need to figure out what "small and medium-sized businesses" are, under which ordinary speculation falls.
              So you classify on the simplified tax system. Everyone who is on the STS is a small and medium business. Speculators are withering away, because in the sphere of retail sales of consumer goods large federal retail chains dominate with the concept of convenience stores. Speculators are not able to compete with them either in pricing, or in the range of goods presented, or in comfort. Speculators are dying, almost extinct. They did not have long.
              1. 0
                April 11 2014 14: 24
                Quote: Kurkin
                Maybe according to another, maybe under the Criminal Code this action falls, if there is evidence. But this is always the case with us, for a stolen bag of potatoes 5 years of real imprisonment, and for the collapse of the army and the theft of assets of the Moscow Region, amnesty and an honorary adviser post are somewhere in the next state corporation.

                I agree unconditionally. But then you contradict yourself: on the one hand, you nod at an unfair "distribution of punishments", on the other, you practice a clear crime. Cynicism or unpatriotism?
                Quote: Kurkin
                And where are the promised grants and soft loans to small businesses and agricultural producers?

                As for the "small" - not in the know, but my friend, a farmer, loans without problems, the bank itself offers him all sorts of preferential terms, the main thing is a positive credit history. But it needs to be earned - this is the main problem, not state policy.
                Quote: Kurkin
                In accordance with the Tax Code, the tax authority has the right to provide an installment plan for the payment of taxes without interest.

                And what's the problem? You're a lawyer. "Has the right" means "to be able to negotiate", and not at all through bribes - it really depends on the person.
                Quote: Kurkin
                Speculators are withering away, because in the sphere of retail sales of consumer goods large federal retail chains dominate with the concept of convenience stores.

                You did not pay attention to the contents in brackets; the chewing gum is indicated as a pronounced example, which, I agree, is a dying echo of the 90s. But with the modern device - speculators will not die out for a long time, too many do not want to work (mentally - including). This is the cost of modernity, without a speculator - neither here nor there, you should not consider this phenomenon only in a narrow part.
            2. wax
              0
              April 11 2014 15: 15
              The fact of the matter is that the chewing gum in your stall, or the laser on your knee, does not make out the tax. And just the stall will survive, having gone into the shadows, and the production worker will die, because he needs materials for new products, not for resale of the old. This is what crushes true enterprise.
    2. +1
      April 11 2014 10: 33
      Said A, say V. Vmenenka introduced, and where is the progressive income tax? So we got a hole. To date, you need to have surplus ... they are all on the feed. A simple example: calculate how much 1-m2 of housing costs for the developer and the market (real) value - feel the difference 95 - 000 = almost 24% - where is the loot ??? who paid taxes ??? An example is more complicated - 000% VAT - where does it come from, where does it settle in the end ??? - the mystery of the economy. Before raising the economy, let them write normal laws on the economy (by the way, the Criminal Code also does not bother to fix it - at least for the confiscation of property).
  13. +2
    April 11 2014 08: 53
    I would regard these economic sanctions as a "vaccination". Who will suffer greatly from this? Yes, oligarchs with billions in Western banks. Without these backsliders, who came to the top on the wave of bandit squabbles and privatizations of people's property in the 90s, we won't get any worse. We will plant a potato on 6 acres for ourselves, we will have chickens, but we will survive any crisis. And these lazy people, together with the shameless oligarchs, let them go where they are promised truffles. And we will master the Crimea and the Far East.
    1. 0
      April 11 2014 23: 45
      Yes, now in the "village" (private houses in cities and towns with plots), 50% does not grow anything, it is easier to buy in a store. They will hit the shovel with sanctions, although a generation has already grown up that does not know how to plant potatoes in the ground. There are strong sanctions for a worker there is nothing to fear, well, there will be difficulties at first, and for example, nails are always needed. Another question is what all sorts of "managers" will do
  14. +2
    April 11 2014 08: 54
    Something, it seems our economists and bankers do not want to part with dollars. They wholeheartedly attached to them.
  15. +1
    April 11 2014 09: 21
    Cool, the Crimea is to blame. But nothing that the increment of a country by territories ultimately leads to an increase in the power of this country?
  16. +2
    April 11 2014 09: 25
    Quote: maks-xnumx
    work is underway, the economy is working and recovering is not a simple process, but you can write anything you want, and the simplest thing is to pour mud on everything and everyone.

    Yeah! It is necessary to work, to raise the economy, not to build forecasts!
  17. +2
    April 11 2014 09: 35
    China and South Korea have achieved impressive successes, creating the conditions for rapid growth in production. Why is it profitable for us anything but production?
  18. 0
    April 11 2014 09: 57
    Quote: maks-xnumx
    work is underway, the economy is working and recovering is not a simple process, but you can write anything you want, and the simplest thing is to pour mud on everything and everyone.

    We are afraid that there will be no investments, and the outflow of capital exceeds all investments. So is it not better to fight the outflow of capital and are not afraid that they will not be, some lies and craftiness here. We need to look more into the state and quickly develop machine tool industry, etc. .da and do not wind the head off on the sides, otherwise the head will fall off. As long as the Gaidarchists in the government, Russia will be in ... Primakov would be at the premiere.
  19. +6
    April 11 2014 10: 07
    The purpose of such "opinions" is a negative impact on the residents of Sevastopol and Crimeans. The Judas want the maydanutye to point their fingers and say "see how your" Rashka "loves you, but they don't want to spend money on you."
    Crimeans! We are proud of you and love you! Do not listen to the provocateurs. Money has nothing to do with it, but, if anything, it’s a no brainer that the Crimea financially is just the opposite - more than a profitable investment!
  20. +3
    April 11 2014 10: 11
    Regarding the article .... I will say in the words of our "Chinese friends": - "Did you try to shoot?"
  21. +3
    April 11 2014 10: 22
    There is only one conclusion - you have to poke less in your pockets, think more about the country.
  22. +1
    April 11 2014 10: 22
    I can not catch up with something ??? The Minister of Finance is - in fact - an accountant, summarizes debit with credit and monitors payments. The Minister of Economy and Development - essentially the manager - is engaged in profit and loss, ensures that there are more profits, and losses are optimized to a minimum. If so, where does Siluanov alone? we ask the studio of the Minister of Economics .... Won Russian Railways in the 1st quarter reported losses - 60 billion rubles. Yes, the chief of the Russian Railways should be put up against the wall for this - the market monopolist is crap !? Such managers only on Solovki ... what for do you need such a driver?
    1. +3
      April 11 2014 10: 43
      ... damn it, I shouldn't have accidentally pushed you up. The head of Russian Railways is a literate man and a true patriot. The state-owned company Russian Railways does not have the main goal of making annual profit. They are now simply not getting on tariffs, thereby helping the rest of the economy. Then they will return to a plus, especially after the massive investments in modernization, which have gone to great expense, because of which you are now seeing a "loss"
  23. +1
    April 11 2014 10: 39
    "-Yasha, you have 6 apples. You gave half to Vasya - how much do you have left?
    - Five and a half apples! .. "- an approximate income distribution scheme ...

    Let them look at Ukraine - so the "damned neighbors" interfered with that, and how did it end? It is good to listen to Western "experts on the collapse", it's time to turn your heads on.
  24. 0
    April 11 2014 10: 55
    And in Russia, who works for the West, the accession of Crimea is like a sickle for them. In their opinion, in order for them to live well, they need to give all of SIBERIA, and SOUTHERN regions and then CENTRAL regions, etc. Why did they need so much, gave and dumped. For the WEST, they are great. But RUSSIA and the PEOPLE only interfere with them. soldier
  25. Aleksandr68
    0
    April 11 2014 11: 05
    Investing in Crimea is not a business - it is politics. I believe that over time, these investments will pay off handsomely
  26. +10
    April 11 2014 11: 27
    Forgive me, Crimean freeloader, uncles - liberals!
    This is nothing, that for the last, lean year 1 million 300 thousand. tons of zeon collected, 1,6 billion cubic meters.
    They extracted gas, and so on trifles vegetables, fruits, wine, spa holidays, etc., etc., etc.
    In a good OWNER, this is a chicken that lays gold eggs.
    Maybe for Russia we will not be so burdensome ???
    1. +4
      April 11 2014 11: 42
      Quote: pticas
      Maybe for Russia we will not be so burdensome ???

      Dear, stop paying attention to the mentally ill - there are enough idiots everywhere. You just need to beat them on the arrogant red face.
      1. +1
        April 11 2014 16: 11
        Kurkul agrees with you, whining always goes, it was bad without the Crimea, but with the Crimea, the same is bad. Here you need to understand that the greatest value is people and not oil and equipment (South Korea, Japan for example). As one great man wrote, "My greatest value is my staff, not machines and factories. With my staff, I will build new, even better factories, but without people?"
        1. +1
          April 11 2014 16: 50
          Quote: Chegevara
          Here you need to understand that the greatest value is people and not oil and equipment

          And there’s nothing to add! drinks
    2. kvn
      kvn
      +2
      April 11 2014 12: 40
      don't pay
      I’m happy for Krymchan (he was born in Nizhnegorsk), in the summer I’ll come to spend my money, I don’t need to go abroad.
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  27. +6
    April 11 2014 11: 34
    Somehow, nothing is moving in our government, except for the transition to "effective" measures to combat smoking, drinking inexpensive and high-quality alcoholic beverages. Well, there is also a global-time shift. The rest is somehow incomprehensible. We made a joint-stock company with state capital and said that they are private and therefore efficient. And these private ones have hammered their tariffs with the help of the same government and milk us for electricity, heating, gas and so on. They themselves scoff at the cost and report on the "profits" not received because of the "unreasonable tariff". And then there is no profit, tk. they have become feeders for state-appointed leaders. And it won't! Why cut costs and build factories? The situation in Ukraine is not the first year, and any sensible leader would have long ago taken the documentation and transferred production to Russia, but not Rosservice from state corporations. I read Almaz-Antey's statement today. Stunned! All the years, their "orange" us were led by the nose, and we kept gas at a discount and factories for the manufacture of components afloat. These gentlemen are well settled! We have new tariff increases, and they have great salaries. For what!!!! And now they are waiting for sanctions and money for the Crimea, so that they can justify themselves and "patch up". And we just have to pay for everything. Through tariffs and reduced living standards. It's time to learn something already. And you also need to start working. It’s unpleasant, but to change “ours” for really smart leaders. Otherwise, Ukraine is close. Stop being so worried about someone else's misfortune. It's time to see what we have going on.
  28. +3
    April 11 2014 11: 51
    And where can our government move if a new iPhone is released. They still have not mastered the old. Knocking is a shame.
  29. +5
    April 11 2014 12: 04
    the circle of people who are happy to share horror stories with the masses that the Republic of Crimea and the city of federal subordination Sevastopol will “devour” a considerable part of the Russian budget, having hit the growth rates of the Russian economy.
    This circle of people also tells sweet tales about how well Russia will live if we separate other "unprofitable" regions from it .. Is it worth believing these people ..
  30. Constantine
    +3
    April 11 2014 12: 22
    In general, the entire economic bloc of the government works very badly. Siluanov allows himself, to put it mildly, impudent expressions towards the president, an unclear initiative with energy rations and water rations. It seems that the MDA team is working purely for the slaughter of the economy and is not considered at all with the president.

    Probably the defense industry enterprises, shipbuilding enterprises, Chernomorneftegaz and the vast territories of fertile land with hundreds of thousands of able-bodied people are not a burden somewhere in the parallel universe of the MDA and its dzuzi, but in reality they are just mediocrities that need to be driven into the neck. angry
  31. Igor62
    0
    April 11 2014 14: 05
    Quote: alicante11
    Interest is generally a relative term.
    If you had 2 apples, then having received another one, you will increase your "apple capital" by 50%, but if you had 100 apples, then increasing by 10% - you will get 10 apples. It seems that the growth is less, but you will eat more apples. This is if, for example, we compare the economic growth of the Russian Federation or some kind of Lithuania-Latvia. It can also be compared with the growth of the economy of China and the Russian Federation. Then you need to see how many mouths you share these 10 apples. For 2 or 20. And it also turns out that in the first case it turns out that everyone will receive 5 apples, and in the second - half. And it can also be compared with the growth of the US economy. This is if you crawl under an apple skin and see what is there, an apple (cars, oil, clothes) or air (services, trading on the stock exchange and profit from stocks). Apples of the latter type will generally be very problematic to eat.
  32. Sledgehammer
    +1
    April 11 2014 14: 47
    Jo there was no need to trade before Europe in the hope that she would "make her happy".
    All that got, a kick from her. We must raise our own production and economy ourselves
    instead of waiting for foreign investors, then there will be no dependence on any sanctions.
  33. 0
    April 11 2014 15: 15
    Quote: gsg955
    Siluyanov-agent of the Washington Printing Office.
    The answer
    What are you talking about at the December party when our minds didn’t even think about it? Take into account the ministers of the economic bloc openly talked about the growth in scanty percentages and immediately buzzed cheerfully. We managed to give a deadline. It came to an easy scandal when the invited academician PRIMAKOV clearly called the work our economists ministers failed, The main caliber was thrown into the matter, namely Medvedev, the chief economist of the country, he reassured everyone that the Academician got excited not so bad and the growth turned out to be as planned in the country's budget, all this action was swiftly curtailed because they will soon speak with the people, A g Primakov remained of his opinion, especially since he had data that did not overturn it. The most interesting thing on this forum was looking for the Russian word that clearly indicates economic growth, could not find the great and mighty, it turns out very accurately and clearly explains how our government worked, so we found the American word depression they say they will understand, but this word can be stuck to any object studies, After there were conversations with the people, they left the burning and uncomfortable topic, Even the Prime Minister in conversation with the people about the economy ran so fast they said everything was under control, For that I remembered the furious butting with article 20 of the UN anti-corruption convention, What the bullshit is about it was planned last year when no one even knew about Crimea, It’s clear that only their inability and unwillingness want to push something that doesn’t have anything to do with it, but they themselves will say we warned you need to drive such people out of posts justification for their mistakes
  34. -1
    April 11 2014 15: 36
    What is this article about? Who is Alexey Volodin? Economist? In Yandex, I found only a pianist and an engineer. And komenty generally boil down to "You need to take everything and share!" (P.P.Sharikov)
    Another opus about well-known facts and trends.
  35. Polarfox
    -2
    April 11 2014 16: 20
    No, dear, you yourself know very well that the browser is in many ways right. Or have you forgotten about the native Russian, about the peasant who does not get baptized until the thunder strikes? Of course, I dismiss absolutely wild suspicions of economic sabotage directed at the Ministry of Finance, but I am inclined to assume that the Ministry of Finance, as well as many other government agencies, would do well to give a magic kick for speed efficiency. For, as far as I know, these guys (and not only them) work on the principle of work is not a wolf. And yes - the author is right, such a convenient opportunity turned up - to shove all sins to sanctions and political instability.

    I won't say that I am a great economist, but I do know a thing or two. And I am confident that it is possible, even in the current conditions, to take measures to strengthen the Russian economy without fanning fears and beating the historian. What kind? The most simple ones. Promptly develop and adopt a number of programs stimulating domestic production (including agricultural) and small business activities in the ruble zone. Legally restrict or impose an increased tax on foreign exchange transactions carried out with non-foreign partners. Leave foreign ones alone, they have traded for currency from time immemorial. Revise the tax code with the introduction of significant preferences for the production of high-tech goods and products of high value added by domestic enterprises and an increase in the tax burden on trade in raw materials. To organize large-scale public works, at least for the repair of the inner courtyards of cities and the improvement of villages with the involvement of unemployed officially registered by state bodies in this work. This will cut off economically useless illegal labor migrants and give jobs to needy Russians. Introduce austerity for all non-productive spending, except for social programs. That is, to reduce the cost of all kinds of holidays, unnecessary foreign business trips and unnecessary expenses on entertainment expenses. Legislatively provide for increased taxation of wages of top managers in all spheres and industries, depending on their multiple excess of the average wages in the industry. This will help to replenish the budget and reduce the desire for unreasonable increases in salaries and bonuses for management personnel. However, it can also lead to shadow payments, to "wages in an envelope", which completely bypass any accounting. However, there are many measures to improve the efficiency of the economy, you just need to make people work. Do not wash, so by rolling. I think so.

    ZY And at the expense of "take away and divide everything", in my opinion, everything is clear for a long time. They took away and divided. Where is this math now?
    1. +1
      April 11 2014 17: 02
      Quote: Polarfox
      I will not say that I am a great economist, but I still understand some things.

      You should read the Federal Law N173-FZ as amended on 12.03.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX "On currency regulation and currency control", you would understand even more.
      Quote: Polarfox
      That is, reduce the cost of all kinds of holidays,

      Do you live to work or work to live?
    2. +1
      April 11 2014 17: 16
      Quote: Polarfox
      I won’t say that I’m a great economist, but I still understand something

      then excuse me please. please clarify. what do you mean

      Quote: Polarfox
      adopt a number of programs that stimulate domestic production (including agricultural) and the activities of small businesses in the ruble zone.

      What it is ?

      Quote: Polarfox
      non-foreign partners


      Quote: Polarfox
      To revise the tax code with the introduction of significant preferences for the production of high-tech goods and high value added products by domestic enterprises and an increase in the tax burden on the trade in raw materials.

      \ Well, actually there are no first ones yet. and about the second
      The government will not take 95% of the profits from Rosneftegaz
      http://www.newsru.com/finance/11apr2014/rosneftegazdvdn.html

      Quote: Polarfox
      To organize large-scale public works, at least for the repair of urban courtyards and landscaping of villages, involving the unemployed officially registered state bodies for these works.

      It will definitely help - you are just a specialist in economics hi

      Quote: Polarfox
      Introduce austerity regime for all non-productive expenses, with the exception of social programs.

      those. continue to pay unemployment benefits - already good

      Quote: Polarfox
      Legislatively provide for increased taxation of remuneration for top managers of all spheres and industries, depending on their multiple excess of the average industry wage

      In Russia, 13% of income do not want to pay, make you pay more?

      Quote: Polarfox
      by the way, there are a lot of measures to increase the efficiency of the economy, we just need to make people work. Do not wash, so skate.

      Skating is like Stalin, but by washing? Maybe just s-you raise and social. give normal packages - you look and people will work.
    3. -1
      April 11 2014 23: 09
      Why are you not in the leadership of the country, since you know how to raise the country?
      The entire Internet is teeming with "X-perts" and "specialists" who know about everything and can do everything.
      Maybe you should go teach Yatsenyuk? Ukraine now needs such "all-knowing" people.
  36. Adzhimushkay
    +2
    April 11 2014 16: 59
    Quote: pticas
    Forgive me, Crimean freeloader, uncles - liberals!
    This is nothing, that for the last, lean year 1 million 300 thousand. tons of zeon collected, 1,6 billion cubic meters.
    They extracted gas, and so on trifles vegetables, fruits, wine, spa holidays, etc., etc., etc.
    In a good OWNER, this is a chicken that lays gold eggs.
    Maybe for Russia we will not be so burdensome ???

    I forgot to add PORTS, there are both deep-sea and oil-loading ones, they do not require investments, only deliver the cargo.
  37. +1
    April 11 2014 17: 11
    Clear as a day. The Minister of Finance is a guard on a small pillow. (Treasury) NOT GIVING.
    Therefore, he says so.
    And why the government and our main manager, the President, ???
    He manages the treasury, everything goes from him. Says-give-so Siluanov will give gritting his teeth and not even choke. The whole question is why ???? The chief does not give such an order. ????? Aviation industry, TU 334 stands tested and certified. And no one does it. MS 21 are waiting. ??? They will definitely lock him up. SuperJet also apparently goes to its sunset, and its Tu is in the hangar and no one wants to build it. ???? What's the question.????? So I think - we need to hit the sanctions even more on the head so that everyone thinks. From the president to the simple worker, how can we raise our country. Not for the benefit of Geyrop, but for the benefit of his lads.
  38. +2
    April 11 2014 18: 21
    The fact that our government needs to be peretyrah - you can not go to the grandmother. Salaries are large, more than what a person needs for a normal existence. Where have you seen the Nobel laureate of a billionaire? and the dropout abramovich here you. We need far more in skilled engineers and workers than in managers. Before, before becoming a production manager, it was necessary to go through so many steps, and now ... a jerk came, not a snout, okay, the American company, to hell with it, they just like our new managers to imitate ... I give an example. but meanwhile, nothing has changed since the time of Pushkin, and as there In Eugene Onegin:
    And there was a deep economy,
    That is, he knew how to judge
    As the state grows rich,
    And what lives, and why
    He does not need gold,
    When a simple product has.
  39. comrad74
    +1
    April 11 2014 18: 48
    Our enemy is not mattresses in Washington, but liberals with an iPhone in the Kremlin. As long as these creeps steer, Russia cannot rise.
  40. -1
    April 11 2014 19: 07
    Gentlemen are economists and comrade economists! Are there any state economists among you (gentlemen and comrades)? I dare to suggest that both of these and all of Russia are only a couple of hundred (one hundred on each side, or something like that). And, somehow stupidly sure - both of these hundreds will not spend time on the network. feel And so - everything is at the level of IMHO and OBS (my grandmother said so to me at the entrance, variations are possible wassat )
    1. 0
      April 11 2014 23: 49
      Quote: tanit
      And, somehow stupidly sure - both of these hundreds will not spend time on the network.

      But I am cleverly confident and educate my grandson in this way: do not be afraid to ask a stupid question, be afraid to answer stupidly. A person who seeks to discuss a particular topic asks questions that he is looking for answers to. Accordingly, he seeks knowledge that is welcome. It is not necessary to be a doctor of mathematical sciences to discuss mathematical issues. Otherwise, many people still cannot figure out square 65 or prove that a rectangle and a circle are one and the same figure, although everything is elementary.
  41. 0
    April 11 2014 19: 45
    It’s time to change the government to sensible and reliable statesmen like Rogozin. The most liberal part of this government is just involved in economics and finance. They only hope for the investment of good uncles from the West. It is as if it is impossible to take our money (welfare fund and something else) from the American egg-pot and engage in the import-substituting industry.
  42. stillrat
    +1
    April 11 2014 20: 33
    It is impossible to introduce control over the outflow of money abroad, since everything that in Russia can bring at least some serious profit is in one way or another in the Western jurisdiction, therefore all the profit is somehow withdrawn there. Therefore, it is easier for the West to forgive Russia a dozen "Crimea" than the introduction of financial control.
  43. 0
    April 11 2014 21: 28
    I will add that the West needs our resources from us and their extraction will not suffer in any circumstances, but otherwise, what can really make our economy out of a raw materials appendage, everything is more complicated, we need money, investments, and they are few and even what they face with such corruption and cut that nothing remains on production itself.
    A typical example is you didn’t think about why the whole world is switching to LED bulbs, but we continue to produce economy lamps (fluorescent lamps), and they contain mercury, in addition to the fact that their production is already problematic, there is still the question of their disposal, just throw it away, you can’t. Rossi had a chance by abandoning incandescent lamps and immediately switch to LED, so no, we went on a European rake.
    Recently, something has begun to change, but ....
    Near St. Petersburg, they built the buildings of a factory for the production of LED lamps, but there was only enough money for the buildings, and the rest was stolen and who do you think who took part there, rightly the Red "favorite" of the country. What to do now, because there is no money, so these guys came up with a knight's move, components are purchased in South Korea, here the products are assembled and passed off as their own, but then it is more interesting to earn money for new equipment, an unofficial instruction was given to sell LED lamps throughout Russia for a price several times (4) more than enough.
  44. 0
    April 11 2014 23: 12
    Alexey made another article about GDP growth. The same tales.
  45. 0
    April 13 2014 18: 00
    The budget rule, 44 fz, is real evil!
  46. Bob
    0
    April 13 2014 20: 40
    According to some estimates, Crimea may "cost" Russia 130 billion greenbacks. Is it a lot or a little ...? This is about 10 modern American aircraft carriers. The comparison is no coincidence. Crimea is an unsinkable aircraft carrier in the Black-Mediterranean Seas, which gives Russia the status of a power - the ability to defend itself and its allies. From a military point of view, the importance of Crimea can hardly be overestimated. At the same time, there is a historical truth, the blood of ancestors was shed here. Who was in the Crimea, in Sevastopol knows what it is - to feel the energy of these places.
    Say what you like, but the theme of the "cost" of Crimea for Russia is the theme of the 5th column, which inflates it to cosmic proportions. But all of them apparently were not in Crimea, they do not know its history, and if they were there, they did not feel anything like that, which covers a person when visiting holy places for Orthodox places.

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