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America will buy Arab oil for rubles

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News In recent days, they suggest that Russia is preparing a strategic response to America and Europe. At the very least, is thinking of such an answer. While the West puzzles over sanctions, wanting to tame Moscow very cunningly, the Kremlin is calculating retaliatory moves. And, as is customary in our time, it launches in the media the propaganda of those curious scenarios, which the West, persistent in its Crimean delusions, can become a witness and participant of.


It all started with the statement of the Russian Minister of Economy Alexei Ulyukayev, made a month ago. It published RIA News" with reference to the agency "Prime".

This is what the head of the Ministry of Economic Development said: “The degree of freedom of American partners to apply some kind of tough measures is much greater (than that of the EU - Prime). I think that after all they should not go beyond the introduction of individual sanctions, if they go, this means a complication of the system of international settlements, the system of trade relations, payments. This means that we have to work out the lines we used to deal with - that is, to increase the volume of trade with countries that are calculated in national currencies. ”

The minister added specifics: “Why do we have to contract in dollars in relations with China, India, Turkey? Why do we need it? We must contract in national currencies - this also applies to energy and other areas. ”

And he summarized: “First of all, this should concern our oil and gas companies so that they can be bolder to conclude contracts in rubles and in the currency of the partner country. I think that now there is an additional impulse to finally finalize this work. ”

So, Mr. Ulyukaev almost called on native oil and gas companies for currency courage. And such a statement soon found appropriate responses.

2 April 2014 on the portal “To lead. Economy" The statement of the head of VTB Andrei Kostin was published. Note: says the banker. And not from the "small".

According to him, the largest Russian exporters are ready to transfer calculations for export deliveries into rubles. No, this is not just an expert opinion. And the expert said this is not in the kitchen for a bottle of tea.

Speaking at the congress of the Association of Russian Banks in Moscow, Kostin noted: Gazprom, Rosneft and Rosoboronexport in total export products for $ 230 billion a year. I spoke with the leaders of these companies. They are not opposed to export in rubles. They just need to give the appropriate mechanism. ”

The companies listed above, as you know, can be safely attributed to the budget. Oil, gas and to a lesser extent weapon - this is what Russia mainly exports. That is, basically, what Ulyukayev said: “First of all”.

To his words, Mr. Kostin added something else, namely, that Russia would thus be able to "reduce dependence on the whims of the US and EU authorities."

There was also banker's specifics. The head of VTB called for the creation of a Russian payment system as soon as possible, the absence of which, in his opinion, is "inexplicable and illogical."

At the same congress of the Association of Russian Banks, Valentina Matvienko also made a statement. Her words are given by the agency "Prime", referring to RIA “News”. According to the speaker of the Federation Council, the banking community should take measures aimed at improving the sustainability of the Russian financial system: “Under current conditions, we should be more active in taking measures aimed at increasing the sustainability of our financial system. This is a question not only of economic security, but also of the sovereignty of our country as a whole. ”

Matvienko believes that it is necessary to speed up the work on creating a national payment system in the country, because of 200 million million 95 bank cards are foreign payment systems. She highlighted the decision of the bank "Russia" to work only on the national market and make payments only in rubles.

We go further. From theory, it seems, there has already been a transition to practice. This is evidenced by some of the details of the planned Iranian-Russian barter deal, which appeared in the Russian media. This is the very deal that has been written about a lot before, starting in January, although many have questioned the news.

Site “To lead. Economy" 3 April reported that Russia and Iran had made significant progress in the negotiations on the supply of oil in exchange for goods. It is indicated that the volume of the transaction will be about 20 billion dollars. And the main thing: the implementation of the transaction will allow Iran to increase energy exports, and the Russian Federation will take a step towards abandoning the dollar in the calculations for mineral raw materials.

As for doubts about the realism of this deal, the head of the Ministry of Energy, Alexander Novak, gave an interview to the Russia 24 TV channel, where he said that Russia and Iran had no restrictions on the development of trade and economic relations.

It is expected that the parties will implement the transaction in several stages, and the first tranche will be 6-8 billion. Probably about 300 thousand barrels per day will be delivered through the Caspian Sea, and the rest (200 thousand barrels) can be exported through the port Bandar Abbas.

“The deal will reduce the pressure on Iran’s energy sector and partially restore access to Iranian oil with the help of Russia,” said Mark Dubovitz from the Foundation for the Defense of Democracy. “If Washington fails to stop the deal, it can serve as a signal to other countries that the United States will not risk major diplomatic ties in order to maintain the sanctions regime.”

It turns out, the portal notes that the sanctions designed to demonstrate the strength of the United States proved to be a confirmation of American weakness.

"Russia holds the petrodollar with one hand and can in one instant respond in such a way as to cause such a collapse of the Dow, which has not yet been stories"- believes trader Jim Sinclair.

In the end, we add from ourselves, we are convinced that the United States in its hegemonic attempts again condemn themselves to a fiasco. A blessing in disguise, says a Russian proverb. The United States has long pressed Iran with sanctions, and even now they act to a significant extent.

Therefore, the announced deal between Russia and the IRI is likely to take place. In the end, today there is little that keeps the Middle East from revising the "petrodollar" relations with the United States. Of course, the departure from the petrodollars will be gradual in order to prevent a market crash and the breakdown of contracts in US dollars. But the “hegemon” rather tired the world with its dictate, and it’s great that he got tired. It is time for him to retire. But how many will he buy for this pension, expressed in dollar bills, with nothing but foreign oil that is not secured? And if you still remember the terrible US public debt?

Presumably, common sense in Washington will still prevail, and instead of preaching "shale gas" and "shale oil", which de is about to receive from the United States, mother Europe, B.H. Obama will slow down the tone and forget the word "sanctions" in general . Not that these sanctions will hit America after a while. Which will have to buy oil in the same Middle East, but ... for rubles.

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  1. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam April 12 2014 07: 29
    -104%
    First of all, this should concern our oil and gas companies, so that they boldly go to conclude contracts in rubles and in the currency of the partner country.

    Chatter. Now the central bank of the Russian Federation is an exchange office. There is no ruble as an independent currency. Any candy wrappers can be paid: dollars, euros, rubles ... The meaning of this does not change. Political word games.

    In order to make the ruble gold, you need to have steel eggs. Because everyone remembers what they did to Gaddafi's family and himself for trying to create a single African currency, the "golden dinar"

    1. mirag2
      mirag2 April 12 2014 07: 33
      -102%
      It is impossible now to carry out any global changes in the economy, how can the political situation calm down, then act.
      Or, only if the edge has already come.
      For sharp changes somewhere is also a factor of destabilization.
      1. NIVH
        NIVH April 12 2014 07: 37
        +84
        But why not outline your possible actions? They scare us - we scare ...
        1. Igor39
          Igor39 April 12 2014 08: 03
          +117
          Probably not in vain on the world gold market, Russia and China are buying it in hundreds of tons. And recently they have been spending dollars on everything, words do not differ with deeds.
          1. elmi
            elmi April 12 2014 10: 59
            +31
            Of course, the departure from petrodollars will be gradual in order to prevent exchange collapse and disruption of contracts written in American currency.

            Why pull the rubber and take care of them no matter how the American system crashes, do they pity us? No, that’s why you need to bring down the dollar as quickly as possible, as a result of which the hegemony of America will be immediately lost, and the world will breathe freely!
            1. PATTIY
              PATTIY April 12 2014 16: 11
              +18
              Quote: elmi
              and cares about them as if the American system

              After that, they will begin to flee the states.
              Texas No. 1, then Alaska ....
              1. Patriot.ru.
                Patriot.ru. April 12 2014 17: 28
                +12
                Of course, our 230 000 billions of dollars that we want to convert into rubles is a laugh for the United States, even if we compare them with the trillion-dollar debts of amers. But the fact is that all their debts are hanging on their bayonets. And here we show that there are still bayonets other than American .
                1. Penzyac
                  Penzyac April 12 2014 21: 37
                  +26
                  Quote: Patriot.ru.
                  Of course, our 230 billion dollars that we want to convert into rubles is a laugh for the US ...


                  Believe me, this money is enough to sow panic on the exchange, and exchange panic is a great engine of the collapse of the pyramids.
                  1. pvn53
                    pvn53 April 14 2014 12: 01
                    +2
                    A precedent is important, and it must be shown that trade not only for dollars is possible and, most likely, profitable. When people think about this in China and India, and in South America, then minke whales will not be laughing.
                  2. pvn53
                    pvn53 April 14 2014 12: 01
                    +1
                    A precedent is important, and it must be shown that trade not only for dollars is possible and, most likely, profitable. When people think about this in China and India, and in South America, then minke whales will not be laughing.
                2. cergey51046
                  cergey51046 April 13 2014 08: 01
                  +1
                  In Russia, more than half of all dollars. Read Sinclair and Globe.
                3. cergey51046
                  cergey51046 April 13 2014 08: 01
                  0
                  In Russia, more than half of all dollars. Read Sinclair and Globe.
                4. yur
                  yur April 13 2014 14: 07
                  -2
                  Quote: Patriot.ru.
                  Of course our 230 billion dollars
                  $ 230 billion is $ 000 trillion. US debt is 230-16 trillion. If we had so much money, we would buy not only the United States, but the whole world. So, you were mistaken somewhere. hi
                  1. Patriot.ru.
                    Patriot.ru. April 13 2014 16: 58
                    +1
                    Of course, the 230 billion that we get for oil and gas. For some reason, for a long time, nobody noticed an obvious blunder. The magic of large numbers is probably.
                  2. yur
                    yur April 14 2014 21: 55
                    +2
                    Quote: yur
                    $ 230 billion is $ 000 trillion. US Debt
                    Honestly, comrades, I can’t understand why they are negating me? Any tectonic shifts in mathematics that I did not notice? What - 230 billion is no longer 000 trillion? request
              2. zarya
                zarya April 13 2014 09: 07
                +1
                Most likely there will be a military junta with nuclear weapons. :-(
              3. gosha1970
                gosha1970 April 13 2014 16: 21
                0
                naive Chukchi young man. probably completed the course of communist political economy?
                1. kotvov
                  kotvov April 13 2014 17: 59
                  +1
                  did you see that you’ve finished Vse? and the naive Chukchi youth, in your expression, I don’t think will concede to you in some way. Arrogance does not color.
            2. Penzyac
              Penzyac April 12 2014 21: 33
              +3
              Quote: elmi
              Of course, the departure from petrodollars will be gradual in order to prevent exchange collapse and disruption of contracts written in American currency.

              Why pull the rubber and take care of them no matter how the American system crashes, do they pity us? No, that’s why you need to bring down the dollar as quickly as possible, as a result of which the hegemony of America will be immediately lost, and the world will breathe freely!


              This will happen as soon as China and Russia get rid of dollar reserves, although, maybe a little earlier.
          2. Geisenberg
            Geisenberg April 12 2014 12: 23
            +26
            Quote: Igor39
            Probably not in vain on the world gold market, Russia and China are buying it in hundreds of tons. And recently they have been spending dollars on everything, words do not differ with deeds.


            It’s right that America and the European Union remain. And when the trade for paper wrappers collapses, then it will be clear where the power is, and where the chatter of Sodomites.
          3. Dilshat
            Dilshat April 12 2014 17: 37
            +4
            It's time to free the US from the "white man's burden." lol
          4. Sour
            Sour April 13 2014 08: 46
            +2
            Quote: Igor39
            Probably not in vain on the world gold market, Russia and China are buying it in hundreds of tons. And recently they have been spending dollars on everything, words do not differ with deeds.

            Gold is the same product as any other. Its price is subject to the same fluctuations as reserve currency rates. The fact that it is more profitable to hold reserves in gold is more than a controversial point of view.
            1. yur
              yur April 13 2014 14: 12
              +1
              Quote: Sour
              Gold is the same product as any other. Its price is subject to the same fluctuations.
              This is true, but the less gold there is on the free market, the more expensive it is. Accordingly, the ultimate benefit is obvious.
        2. svp67
          svp67 April 12 2014 09: 48
          +39
          Quote: NIVH
          o why not indicate your possible actions? They scare us - we scare ...
          And you don't need to scare, you just need to pursue a policy beneficial to your country. Iran is a "rogue" country, according to the United States, and sang along with it, it does not have to be afraid of something, but they are also going to make us "outcasts", so it can slowly create something new in this world, something that is not so will depend on US views and actions
          1. Polovec
            Polovec April 12 2014 12: 57
            +32
            It is necessary to make the USA a rogue. Moreover, the world is morally ready for this.
            1. gosha1970
              gosha1970 April 13 2014 16: 22
              -11%
              dollars are not enough to make them outcasts
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        3. Fin
          Fin April 12 2014 09: 58
          +9
          Quote: NIVH
          But why not outline your possible actions? They scare us - we scare ...

          We show our intentions with fright and, as a result, let us prepare. I think there will be a trial balloon with Iran, and at the end of the year after the contracts with the PRC, the introduction of fees. system something will start.
          1. Foxmara
            Foxmara April 12 2014 20: 21
            +2
            Quote: Fin
            I think there will be a trial ball with Iran

            http://www.odnako.org/blogs/povorot-na-vostok-pochemu-sankcii-ssha-i-es-nikak-ne
            -paralizuyut-rossiyskuyu-ekonomiku /
            Turn to the East. Why the US and EU sanctions do not paralyze the Russian economy
        4. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg April 12 2014 12: 21
          +34
          Quote: NIVH
          But why not outline your possible actions? They scare us - we scare ...



          Here, as in a dialogue with a gopnik, you don’t need to scare him, you just have to beat him so that it’s clear to all the coders that they’ve got the wrong contact.
        5. Patriot.ru.
          Patriot.ru. April 12 2014 17: 15
          +1
          You can’t keep track of everything so quickly. But we have every chance to win.
        6. RND
          RND April 12 2014 18: 54
          +8
          Quote: NIVH
          But why not outline your possible actions? They scare us - we scare ...

          No comment.
          1. Pula
            Pula April 13 2014 12: 16
            +5
            Crimea has already shown who has "steel" ... moreover, without intimidating anyone.
        7. cergey51046
          cergey51046 April 13 2014 07: 58
          -1
          This is not a scare, but a warning. Read Sinclair and Globe.
        8. cergey51046
          cergey51046 April 13 2014 07: 58
          0
          This is not a scare, but a warning. Read Sinclair and Globe.
        9. karelminin
          karelminin April 13 2014 21: 46
          0
          It is necessary not only to frighten, but also to work out the ruble theme. States retired? It is high time - everyone hesitated - both friends and enemies.
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      3. Canep
        Canep April 12 2014 07: 40
        +24
        Quote: mirag2
        No global changes can now be made

        Right now, I need it, I also have a loan, I think we can handle it, it may just be another possibility.
        1. I do not care
          I do not care April 12 2014 09: 52
          +33
          Quote: Canep
          Quote: mirag2
          No global changes can now be made

          Right now, I need it, I also have a loan, I think we can handle it, it may just be another possibility.


          smile Drive to Crimea-
          1. Rostislav
            Rostislav April 12 2014 12: 57
            +17
            An elegant solution, however. Congratulations! 5th channel? Great example!
            It's called: "Don't dig a hole for another. Use the one he dug for you."
      4. Arhj
        Arhj April 12 2014 07: 47
        +32
        Quote: mirag2
        It is impossible now to carry out any global changes in the economy, how can the political situation calm down, then act.
        Or, only if the edge has already come.
        For sharp changes somewhere is also a factor of destabilization.

        Global is impossible, but gradually with the prospect of increasing the share of other currencies, the dollar should be abandoned. If you dig deep, today there is no weaker currency than the dollar, which is secured only by debt. Today, the abandonment of the dollar is already gaining signs of global security. The weaker the dollar, the calmer the world.
        1. Lazy
          Lazy April 12 2014 12: 44
          +5
          Understand one thing. The United States has accumulated a very large part of all the world's gold reserves. Yes, this is conspiracy, it is unprovable, but common sense suggests that it is almost certain! Otherwise, it is necessary to answer the question WHERE the gold and foreign exchange reserves of rich countries, in which revolutions take place, disappear every time. And if such a golden safety cushion actually exists in secret US vaults, then the national debt should not bother them at all, and in principle they will even be ready to switch to the gold standard, with the complete cancellation of all their old debts. And as for the dollar's lack of security, what, in this case, are the other currencies backed by? Some with the same unsecured dollars, some with other currencies, which, in turn, are backed by unsecured dollars (there is little gold in the gold reserves of Russia, and a lot of currency, here you have all the security of the ruble). Is it really incomprehensible that while ALL other currencies are backed by an unsecured dollar, the dollar itself in such a situation is just the MOST PROVIDED in the world ?! Is it really incomprehensible that in today's financial system the "security" of the currency is not in physical terms? The price of gold (like everything else) is determined, roughly speaking, by bankers! So the future financial system, after the collapse of this one, should be the legal successor of this one, but with the banks' dependence on common sense. Now they are independent from nothing, and work only for themselves, although they should be just a tool and not the most important goal. And in this new financial system, Russia will have to receive the greatest privileges, given all of its resource potential. Therefore, if Russia does not disintegrate into many small states, the entire Western world will have very big problems in the future. Most likely, before that, the situation between Russia and the West will be very tense and everything will go to war. It is important which side China will be on, and it is especially important what kind of army Russia will have at that time. For there will never be any war if Russia has the strongest army. At the expense of global changes I agree. The one who will allow them will be the stupidest shortsighted politician.
          1. Kurkin
            Kurkin April 12 2014 18: 54
            +8
            Lazy put a plus. But I disagree on something.
            The United States has accumulated a very large part of all the gold reserves of the world. Yes, this is conspiracy thesis, it is unprovable, but common sense suggests that it is almost certain! Otherwise, you need to answer the question, WHERE each time the gold and currency reserves of rich countries in which revolutions occur disappear. And if such a golden airbag really exists in the secret US vaults, then the public debt should not bother them at all, and in principle they will even be ready to switch to the gold standard, with full cancellation of all their old debts.
            In the US vaults, this gold is definitely not there, the results of audits speak about this. In addition, the United States itself abandoned the Bratnwood system (the gold standard) back in 1971, precisely due to the fact that it could not provide the entire dollar mass with gold security. The gold you are talking about is probably in the vaults of private American banks, Fed shareholders, and in the vaults of the Fed itself. Only now the US Fed is not responsible for the debts of the US government, this was the meaning of the creation of the Fed in 1913 and the rejection of the gold standard in 1970. Thus, the commitment of the US government is one thing, and the gold of Bankers is another.
            And about the insecurity of the dollar, then what, in this case, are provided with other currencies? Some are the same unsecured dollars, some other currencies, which in turn are secured by unsecured dollars (in the gold and foreign currency reserves of Russia, there is little gold and a lot of currency, here you have all the security of the ruble). Is it really not clear that while ALL other currencies are backed by an unsecured dollar, the dollar itself in such a situation is precisely the MOST SECURITY in the world ?!
            You yourself answered your own question. The dollar is backed by the fear of its collapse and the US military might. I absolutely agree with you about the ruble. It is necessary to untie our gold and foreign exchange reserves from dollars, euros, treasuries and other Western "securities", both state and private. Gold reserves must be invested in new industrialization, technology, factories must be purchased, agriculture and industry must be invested (mechanical engineering in the first place). Then we need to carry out monetary, financial and credit reforms. Refuse to convert the ruble. Provide it nominally with gold, but prohibit the direct exchange of the ruble for gold, as it was under the USSR. Nationalize the entire financial and credit system, return the state monopoly on currency transactions, its storage and possession, block the circulation of currency on the territory of the Russian Federation, return the state monopoly on foreign trade. In foreign trade, use the clearing settlement system. And also, ideally, it is necessary to restore the transferable ruble for settlements in foreign trade with the EAC and BRICS countries, as well as Iran and Syria. That is, to recreate SES version 2.0.
            1. fif21
              fif21 April 12 2014 19: 34
              +4
              Quote: Kurkin
              That is, to recreate SES version 2.0.
              Let me disagree with you. fool Economic self-isolation is not in Russia's interests. It is in Russia's interests to get rid of dollar dependence, and this must be done before the dollar collapses. Americans need Euros to preserve their capital, and those who rely on the dollar will pay off US debts. An example of this is Greece. And yet, CEC is a sanitary-epidemiological station, the USSR had an EEC hi
              1. Kurkin
                Kurkin April 12 2014 20: 30
                +6
                And yet, CEC is a sanitary-epidemiological station, the USSR had an EEC hi
                Sorry, wrong with the abbreviation, of course CMEA.

                The Council for Mutual Economic Assistance (CMEA, the most commonly used English abbreviation is the English Comecon (The Council for Mutual Economic Assistance)) - an intergovernmental economic organization operating from 1949 to 1991, created by the decision of the economic meeting of representatives of Bulgaria, Hungary, Poland, Romania, USSR and Czechoslovakia.

                CMEA headquarters was in Moscow.

                The CMEA activities were determined by the Charter adopted by the Council Session (12th session of the session, December 1959). The CMEA Charter was amended at the 16th (June 1962), 17th (December 1962) and 28th (June 1974) meetings of the CMEA Session.

                Country delegations were led by heads of government. At the 16-18th and 23rd sessions of the Session, country delegations were headed by the first (general) secretaries of the Central Committee of the communist and workers parties of the CMEA member countries. Sessions were convened annually, alternately in the capitals of the CMEA member countries in the order of the names of countries in the Russian alphabet. Extraordinary (extraordinary) Sessions could be convened at the request or with the consent of at least 1/3 of the CMEA member countries.

                The Executive Committee (created in 1962) is the CMEA main executive body, which consisted of representatives of member countries at the level of deputy heads of government, one from each country.

                The CMEA Secretariat is the economic and executive-administrative body of the Council. Location - Moscow. The work of the Secretariat was led by the CMEA Secretary and his deputies. The Secretary is the principal officer of the Council.

                A transferable ruble is a collective currency, a measure of value, a means of payment and accumulation for organizing multilateral settlements of countries - members of the Council for Mutual Economic Assistance.
              2. Instructor
                Instructor April 14 2014 22: 43
                0
                And in my opinion we had CMEA - the Council for Mutual Economic Assistance. EES - Unified Energy System - safely destroyed by a Chubaisik.
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            3. gosha1970
              gosha1970 April 13 2014 16: 25
              +2
              Well, L.I. Brezhnev revive in addition
            4. Lazy
              Lazy April 14 2014 15: 02
              0
              Quote: Kurkin
              In the US vaults, this gold is definitely not there, the results of audits speak about this. In addition, the United States itself abandoned the Bratnwood system (the gold standard) back in 1971, precisely due to the fact that it could not provide the entire dollar mass with gold security. The gold you are talking about is probably in the vaults of private American banks, Fed shareholders, and in the vaults of the Fed itself. Only now the US Fed is not responsible for the debts of the US government, this was the meaning of the creation of the Fed in 1913 and the rejection of the gold standard in 1970. Thus, the commitment of the US government is one thing, and the gold of Bankers is another.

              The Brettenwood Agreement of the 71st year of which you speak of was subsequently updated by the Jamaican agreements (it seems in the 76th). Although the meaning to this day remains the same. At the expense of audits and other circus - all this is written with a pitchfork on water. In official US vaults, gold is a minimum. Otherwise, many owners of treasuries would like to exchange their bonds for gold. As of now, legally type can be done, but in fact of course it is impossible. Regarding the Fed - it’s not the USA that doesn’t obey the Fed, it’s the USA that is subordinate to the Fed! I wrote about this above, if you carefully re-read. Banks as primary, countries as secondary. This is not normal of course, it should be the other way around. About gold in private banks (and there are NOT private? O_O) did not understand anything. And what? Where else should it be? In the ancient Mayan treasures guarded by traps and mummies, like in Hollywood movies? The fact (I believe that fact) is that the United States (or the Fed, the world government, as you like and call it, these are all links in one chain). And no transition to a natural-gold reserve is beneficial for us. You have not refuted this statement. What did they argue with then? Just?

              You yourself answered your own question. Dollar secured by fear of collapse and US military power

              As if I did not answer this question, it is well known.

              It is necessary to untie our gold and foreign exchange reserves from dollars, euros, treasuries and other Western "securities", both state and private.

              And you also need to give up electricity and live in "harmony with nature" -)

              Gold reserves should be invested in new industrialization, procured technologies, plants, invest in agriculture and industry (engineering first of all) ...
              Foreign exchange reserves invest ??? Do you even understand what you are offering? Do you understand the meaning of gold reserves? Apparently not. I don’t understand where you have any knowledge of in macro finance and macroeconomics, but at the same time you write such nonsense in some places. When I was a student (I’m a financier), even in my first year I didn’t hear such nonsense from anyone -) you seem to repeat someone’s words that are correct, but you think it yourself, you get the whole text that you have above. You also do not understand the economy of the USSR a gram. Although it is from her in the future that it will be necessary to build on when the banks will be just as a means, not an end. A transferable ruble is by the way a good thing, but I’m afraid Russia is not perceived by BRICS as number 1, the only and main economic center to counter the dollar, and a multi-currency system needs to be built. At the moment, there is a monopoly of the dollar. In the future, there should still exist - the RMB ruble, rupees, etc. Those. The global financial system must be fair to all. That's all. Regarding any statements such as a return to the gold standard, I described everything above, think about who will benefit from this. And it’s not even possible in the modern world.
              1. Kurkin
                Kurkin April 19 2014 20: 28
                0
                Well, you probably did not understand it. Now our gold and foreign exchange reserves are invested in foreign securities of our sworn "friend". I am talking about the need to withdraw our gold reserves from foreign securities. I also suggested, if you have read, to make the ruble non-convertible in foreign exchange markets and provide it with gold nominally, but prohibit the direct exchange of the ruble for gold. At the same time, the released funds of gold reserves, which are the security of today's ruble, should be directed to the purchase of technologies, equipment, factories and agriculture. Use clearing schemes for external settlements. And trying to negotiate with the BRICS countries on the creation of a common supranational unit of account, like a transferable ruble, as it will be called is not important.
                About gold in private banks (and is there NOT private? O_O) did not understand anything.
                Of course there is, but not in capitalist countries. In the same China there are state banks. In the USSR, all banks were state-owned and not private.
            5. Instructor
              Instructor April 14 2014 22: 40
              +1
              Quote: Kurkin
              Lazy Purchase technologies, plants, invest in agriculture and industry (engineering first of all). Further it is necessary to carry out monetary, financial and credit reforms. Refuse to convert ruble. Provide it nominally with gold, but prohibit the direct exchange of the ruble for gold, as was the case under the USSR. Nationalize the entire financial credit system, return the state monopoly on operations with currency, its storage and ownership, block the circulation of currency in the Russian Federation, return the state monopoly on foreign trade. In foreign trade, use a clearing settlement system. And also, ideally, it is necessary to restore the transferable ruble for settlements in foreign trade with the EAC and BRICS countries, as well as Iran and Syria. That is, to recreate SES version 2.0.


              Great plans! But who in Russia can do this now? Our money bags are oligarchs? Only if they are very, very asked! But those who have settled abroad will sneeze at these exhortations. There is no Stalin on them who was able to return the stolen money to the country!
              1. Lazy
                Lazy April 15 2014 00: 12
                0
                Quote: instructor

                Great plans! But who in Russia can do this now? Our money bags are oligarchs? Only if they are very, very asked! But those who have settled abroad will sneeze at these exhortations. There is no Stalin on them who was able to return the stolen money to the country!

                You know, honestly, under Stalin, the economy was simpler. He didn’t chop everything off his shoulder, as everyone thinks, but he did everything very consistently and smartly. If I had lived longer I would have done more, I’m sure. It was possible to drown the dollar even at that time.
      5. a52333
        a52333 April 12 2014 08: 32
        +21
        Global changes are not needed, or rather, quickly global is not done. Has China switched to national currencies with China? Now the next step with the filing of Ulyukaev. Step by step, not immediately, but to make a move from the dollar.
      6. dustycat
        dustycat April 12 2014 12: 04
        +11
        Quote: mirag2
        You can’t carry out any global changes in the economy,

        Then it was impossible, now it is impossible, then what for it will not be necessary ...
        It’s better now that the land is already so, but they give something for Yefimki, than later when they give it to Yefimki.
        Who jumped on time and in the ladies.
      7. per3526
        per3526 April 12 2014 15: 33
        +5
        strike while the iron is hot!
      8. JIaIIoTb
        JIaIIoTb April 12 2014 16: 38
        +7
        O. Liberal lures popped out laughing
        If the United States begins to plunge our economy, we will respond in the same way.
        And I think we already have the "Steel Eggs".
        It remains to force our liberoids to work for Russia.
        Those who will continue to work in the homeland of the bucks or for forced labor in the sawmill, or send there, which they so sweetly dream of. Let them destroy it.
      9. Berkut-UA
        Berkut-UA April 12 2014 22: 09
        +2
        So after all, our "partners" in Europe and America are constantly trying to foment destabilization along the borders with Russia.
        Maybe they should play their game
        and pass off destabilization to their borders.

        So that they finally begin to learn at least something in today's world.
        1. ksandr45
          ksandr45 April 14 2014 13: 44
          +1
          How? They have Canada from the top, Mexico from the bottom, and the Akiyan from the left.
      10. cergey51046
        cergey51046 April 13 2014 07: 57
        0
        If you can’t even, but really want to, then you can.
      11. VladimirD
        VladimirD April 14 2014 18: 28
        0
        "The very edge" came already in 1991-1993. Well, let's wait another twenty years. In the late 80s and early 90s, I also thought that I already saw a bright future. And many thought so. What did we see then ... . Or maybe, in your opinion, there were no "abrupt changes"! The political situation will never calm down. We must act quickly when a favorable situation develops!
    2. miasoman
      miasoman April 12 2014 07: 41
      +27
      So the point is that it is time to make an independent currency from the ruble. And at the moment the most favorable conditions for this.
      1. -Patriot-
        -Patriot- April 12 2014 08: 28
        +12
        And the conditions are favorable, and the excuse is most diplomatic)
        1. Orc-xnumx
          Orc-xnumx April 12 2014 09: 44
          +6
          ... and make their banks work in rubles!
    3. platitsyn70
      platitsyn70 April 12 2014 07: 43
      +27
      or maybe Obama is an African spy and wants to avenge the United States for all the blacks who were tortured at the time on the plantations of America by the collapse of the United States.
      1. Vadim12
        Vadim12 April 12 2014 08: 51
        +12
        I sometimes think that Obamych is generally our person .. So much good has been done to us, if you think carefully .. smile
    4. Imigrantt
      Imigrantt April 12 2014 07: 55
      +32
      Do not compare Gaddafi with Libya and RUSSIA !!!! Equivalent to a motor boat with a modern submarine !!!! It seems that all the people in the vastness of the TS and not only support it !!! And the Yankees as always quietly smoke on the sidelines !!! Such is now their share !!!! Now they are no longer a decree for us stinking dogs !!!! hi
    5. kotyara
      kotyara April 12 2014 09: 21
      +14
      In the event of a rejection of the dollar as a payment currency, no central banks will save the United States!
      1. commentor
        commentor April 12 2014 09: 37
        -3
        The transition to payment in rubles will lead to an increase in the demand of our currency.
        This is the main reason why you can not abruptly switch to this method of payment. To meet this demand, Russia will have to provide liquidity in the world - to print rubles, in short. With our inflation, it will be a disaster.

        An important point is the strengthening of the ruble in this situation: if the ruble begins to strengthen sharply, a large budget deficit will form.

        In the end, the ruble will become a stable currency, and inflation in the country will drop sharply, but this will take decades.
        1. dustycat
          dustycat April 12 2014 12: 11
          +5
          Quote: commentor
          To meet this demand, Russia will have to provide liquidity in the world - to print rubles, in short. With our inflation, it will be a disaster.


          For the first time I hear about the fact that deflation is a disaster ...
          Something Switzerland and Japan from deflation in the crisis that began in 2009 were not very upset.
          Japan even managed to maintain a positive interest rate for refinancing.
          1. commentor
            commentor April 12 2014 12: 40
            0
            Deflation is worse than inflation. No need to cite the example of the Japanese, who are mainly engaged in imports.
            1. fif21
              fif21 April 12 2014 19: 50
              +1
              Quote: commentor
              Deflation is worse than inflation. No need to cite the example of the Japanese, who are mainly engaged in imports.

              You know, I don’t want to even enter into a polemic with you! A diplomat then bought a campaign! Or is the Cossack mishandled? wassat
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          2. Sour
            Sour April 13 2014 08: 55
            +1
            Quote: dustycat
            For the first time I hear about the fact that deflation is a disaster ...

            A catastrophe is not a catastrophe, but there is nothing good in it. This leads to a drop in prices for goods, which affects producers. Imagine that you produce something, spend money on it at old prices, and then sell products at new prices that have already declined. And what good is it?
            If the cost of goods includes higher prices than they were at the time of its manufacture and sale, then production will be unprofitable.
        2. alicante11
          alicante11 April 12 2014 12: 12
          +5
          Russia will have to provide liquidity in the world - to print rubles, in short. With our inflation, it will be a disaster.


          And what about the Americans providing "liquidity"? Well, we will accumulate several trillions of ruble debts to our Central Bank.

          An important point is the strengthening of the ruble in this situation: if the ruble begins to strengthen sharply, a large budget deficit will form.


          Or maybe the budget deficit comes from a lack of income, and not from the strengthening of the currency?
          1. commentor
            commentor April 12 2014 12: 36
            -2
            While we export oil and gas, a strong ruble is unprofitable for the state.
            1. Penzyac
              Penzyac April 12 2014 22: 00
              +4
              Quote: commentor
              While we export oil and gas, a strong ruble is unprofitable for the state.


              This is only while we export oil and gas for dollars, and if the price is initially in rubles, then the rubles will become oil rubles. hi
          2. PATTIY
            PATTIY April 12 2014 16: 23
            +3
            Quote: alicante11

            And what about the Americans providing "liquidity"?

            fear, intimidation, blackmail and their military power.
            1. alicante11
              alicante11 April 13 2014 04: 30
              +1
              fear, intimidation, blackmail and their military power.


              Well, who's stopping us from scaring them? Kuz'ka's mother is in place and in sufficient quantity. What is more important for these eccentrics with the letter "me", life or green candy wrappers?
              1. koshh
                koshh April 13 2014 10: 13
                +2
                we now scared them, and very much: we conducted serious demonstration exercises, landed the Airborne Forces twice. They are shocked by this.
        3. Andreitch
          Andreitch April 12 2014 17: 09
          +6
          And nevertheless, it is vitally important for Russia to urgently create its own payment system! Don't panic, smoothly but quickly! 1-1.5 years old! If there is political will and brains, this can be done carefully by pulling out our state reserve without loss and placing it more rationally. Having our own national payment system will allow us to have “long” money in our economy, and this is a tool for rebuilding the economy.
          And yet, it is a good mechanism to prevent capital flight. IMHO.
          I personally have only one question, why is it still not in our country? am
          1. Mainbeam
            Mainbeam April 12 2014 21: 09
            +2
            Most Russians mistakenly believe that the Bank of Russia belongs to the state.

            Type the request in Yandex "Who owns the Central Bank of Russia" and get an answer to your question.
            and these people are minus me!
        4. Motors1991
          Motors1991 April 12 2014 17: 53
          0
          Tell me bluntly, the ruble is pegged to the dollar, and everything else is nothing more than a patriotic talking room. The hardness of the currency determines the strength of the economy: the ratio of 22% of the US global economy and 3-4% of Russia clearly shows what will happen to the ruble if it wants to butt with the dollar. The Chinese yuan in the world is beginning to be recognized de facto as the second world currency, although de jure China, in contrast to Russia, is in every way pushing, for some reason it is satisfied with the dominance of the dollar, for now, anyway. For the last, I will tell a case from my life. As a student of HADI, we are with they were returning from the restaurant, where they had marked the last call. We rode on a tram, a platoon of cadets with some drunk and also drunk with us rode with us. Word for word, a fight broke out, at one stop one of the cadets jumped into a neighboring carriage and soon, about a dozen cadets from a neighboring wagon burst into us and one of them says: We are future commanders and we have calculated how many you have, you have no chance against us, but at the next stop, having sensed something wrong, we our comrades ran across, here we are already tale and: Guys, we are also future commanders, we also know how to count. So, it all ended with the joint drinking of two bottles of champagne, which for this occasion were found by someone, each drank a sip and we grew friendly, because we knew if the fight started , 40 young children will smash the car into chips and end up putting everyone in a jail, with all the ensuing consequences in the form of deductions from the university and the school. Advice to all patriots: count your strengths and think about whether you overestimate them.
          1. Saratoga833
            Saratoga833 April 12 2014 19: 03
            +8
            Thinking and then doing is always not harmful, only you need to think not momentarily, but looking a bit into the distance. When switching to rubles, there may be momentary losses, which in the future will pay off many times in economic and political terms. Therefore, the transition to ruble settlements is an absolutely necessary action! How to do this - first think carefully. And then put it into practice!
          2. fif21
            fif21 April 12 2014 20: 08
            +4
            Quote: Motors1991
            Advice to all patriots: count your strengths and think about whether you overestimate them.

            Touching memories (+) Knowledge of tactics and strategy of warfare (-) Explain to me then, how 3 hundreds of substations bent the millionth city of Kiev? After all, the grouping of forces and means of law enforcement officers was an order of magnitude larger request
            1. Motors1991
              Motors1991 April 12 2014 21: 00
              0
              To be precise, the group of law enforcement officers is not an order of magnitude larger, but by orders of magnitude, how many cops we have, exactly no one says from 300 thousand to half a million, not every Soviet front during the Second World War had such a number of soldiers, therefore several hundred or thousands of Maydans without the support of the people of Kiev and all of Ukraine, they had no chance of victory. This is exactly the situation when David defeated Goliath.
              1. kotvov
                kotvov April 13 2014 18: 14
                +1
                This is exactly the situation when David defeated Goliath ...... I THINK THIS COMPARISON IS INappropriate. There was ordinary cowardice (YANEKA) ON ONE SIDE AND NAGLOSNY (WITH SUPPORT OF AMER AND GEYROPEYS) WITH ANOTHER.
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          4. 97110
            97110 April 14 2014 12: 47
            0
            The score is simple - we will consider, think - the fate of the Yugs, Libya, etc. awaits us With any arithmetic in the fall of 41, in the summer of 42, the balance was negative. What today? I do not like the prospect of grazing pigs from a proud Pole. They must also consider, they can lose more. And they can lose everything, even with us.
    6. Demo
      Demo April 12 2014 09: 31
      +17
      and you still doubt that Putin has steel ???? yes they have titanium)))

      they also said about Crimea that this is impossible, but it turned out that everything is possible !!!
      1. sled beach
        sled beach April 12 2014 13: 25
        +6
        Yes, how many adults are possible! Steel is stronger than titanium, titanium is lighter and more heat-resistant but not stronger. Whoever can be asked more firmly than titanium is the miracles of post-Soviet education. Another steel alloy, a titanium element is therefore appropriate to compare with iron.
        1. Geometr74
          Geometr74 April 14 2014 18: 43
          0
          Well let there be diamonds
      2. sled beach
        sled beach April 12 2014 13: 25
        +4
        Yes, how many adults are possible! Steel is stronger than titanium, titanium is lighter and more heat-resistant but not stronger. Whoever can be asked more firmly than titanium is the miracles of post-Soviet education. Another steel alloy, a titanium element is therefore appropriate to compare with iron.
        1. kotvov
          kotvov April 13 2014 18: 27
          +1
          Titanium is tighter than steel. The tensile strength of titanium is about 1000 MPa, and that of steel is about 300-500 MPa, depending on the grade of steel (though in spring steels it is the same as in titanium) ..... but how do you like this layout? By the way, Soviet education. I understand that everyone can be mistaken.
    7. svp67
      svp67 April 12 2014 09: 44
      +5
      Quote: MainBeam
      In order to make the ruble gold, you need to have steel eggs.

      Or a very cold calculation, backed up by the power of the army ...
    8. AVV
      AVV April 12 2014 09: 53
      +9
      Russia is not Libya, but Obama is not the center of the universe !!! He is a black hole !!!
    9. Rohon
      Rohon April 12 2014 10: 03
      +5
      One must always act, reasonably, but act ...
      Movement in front and not a step backward, enough stagnation and perestroika ...... But wolves should not be afraid to go into the forest ...
    10. mongoose
      mongoose April 12 2014 10: 08
      -31%
      what an ineradicable "love" to "paternal graves" however!
      1. I do not care
        I do not care April 12 2014 10: 20
        +7
        Quote: mongoose
        what an ineradicable "love" to "paternal graves" however!


        Excuse me, do you prefer imported ones? Don’t worry, will you ever have 1 domestic ...
      2. IGS
        IGS April 12 2014 12: 29
        +2
        Losharik, scatter under the bunks in place.
    11. dustycat
      dustycat April 12 2014 12: 01
      +9
      [quote = MainBeam] [quote]
      In order to make the ruble gold, [/ quote]

      And why the bolt, even if gilded ?!
      Is Yefimka golden ?!

      It is enough to make the ruble real convertible.
      So that not only in Chinese, Esengesh and Finnish eateries would it be poured in full, but also in any Zimbabwean, Saudi, German, Brazilian, French, Argentinean, Puerto Rican, coastal-diagonal and Union-North American.
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    12. alicante11
      alicante11 April 12 2014 12: 02
      +6
      In order to make the ruble gold, you need to have steel eggs. Because everyone remembers what they did to Gaddafi's family and himself for trying to create a single African currency, the "golden dinar"


      In addition to steel eggs, one must also have several hundred warheads of "Kuz'ka's mother" and their delivery vehicles. Then there is no need to fear for the fate of Gaddaffi.
    13. Mareman Vasilich
      Mareman Vasilich April 12 2014 12: 05
      +5
      Comrade, it was enough to write about "steel eggs", the rest is optional. You need political will, courage, strength, courage, and not spare your belly for the sake of your own country and people. There are no such people now. We now need a leader like I. Stalin.
      Don’t pay attention to the minuses, these are close-knit people in pink glasses.
      1. Andreitch
        Andreitch April 12 2014 17: 23
        +4
        Well, NOT STALIN! I need a Statesman !, and the same team is needed! First of all, in the economic bloc. For example, Glazyev, like a very intelligent man.
    14. antoha
      antoha April 12 2014 13: 59
      +2
      There is no need to compare Libya with Russia, the rejection of the dollar will hurt the US economy, but this cannot be done right away, but we must go to this because everyone has already got it.
    15. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 April 12 2014 15: 01
      +2
      Quote: MainBeam
      what did the Gaddafi family

      Gaddafi essentially launched his army, if he had bought modern air defense systems and would not have done anything to him.
    16. Arkon
      Arkon April 12 2014 18: 14
      +5
      In order to make the ruble gold, you need to have steel eggs


      In order to make the ruble golden, you must have a pumpkin instead of a head.
      Why the hell do we work for the "Swiss gnomes" by raising the value of their savings with our resources?
      Such a feint in the years of Nicholas 2 (Witte reform) once destroyed the empire when it was impossible to finance infrastructure projects.
      So, not a "golden ruble", but an "energy ruble".

      Moreover, the energy ruble is no longer even plans, it is a reality.
      1. koshh
        koshh April 13 2014 10: 41
        0
        Quote: Arkon
        Why the hell do we work for the "Swiss gnomes" by raising the value of their savings with our resources?

        And we will not. After all, all Russians were invited and recommended to transfer their assets to Russia.
    17. fif21
      fif21 April 12 2014 19: 17
      +2
      Quote: MainBeam
      In order to make the ruble gold, you need to have steel eggs. Because everyone remembers what they did to Gaddafi's family and himself for trying to create a single African currency, the "golden dinar"
      Frightened, I have already described myself and in stumbling a whole green toilet paper laughing Of course, the implementation of the signed contracts is necessary, but the contracts can be reviewed, and when entering into new ones, the supplier of goods determines the settlement currency. hi And our eggs are not steel, they are plutonic wassat
    18. fif21
      fif21 April 12 2014 19: 17
      0
      Quote: MainBeam
      In order to make the ruble gold, you need to have steel eggs. Because everyone remembers what they did to Gaddafi's family and himself for trying to create a single African currency, the "golden dinar"
      Frightened, I have already described myself and in stumbling a whole green toilet paper laughing Of course, the implementation of the signed contracts is necessary, but the contracts can be reviewed, and when entering into new ones, the supplier of goods determines the settlement currency. hi And our eggs are not steel, they are plutonic wassat
    19. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 April 12 2014 22: 32
      -1
      Quote: MainBeam
      First of all, this should concern our oil and gas companies, so that they boldly go to conclude contracts in rubles and in the currency of the partner country.

      Chatter. Now the central bank of the Russian Federation is an exchange office. There is no ruble as an independent currency. Any candy wrappers can be paid: dollars, euros, rubles ... The meaning of this does not change. Political word games.

      In order to make the ruble gold, you need to have steel eggs. Because everyone remembers what they did to Gaddafi's family and himself for trying to create a single African currency, the "golden dinar"


      Until the 1949 year, dollars were also candy wrappers for the whole world, including Europe, and for the USSR they were candy wrappers until the end of the 80's.
      Russia is not Libya, it has something to answer the invaders and not on the defensive, but a blow to their cities. To threaten Russia, the Yankees and Euros must have titanium eggs.
      Everyone remembers what the Russians did with the rulers of the 3 Reich. It is unlikely that merkels and barracks want to hang out on the gallows.
      1. Mainbeam
        Mainbeam April 12 2014 22: 46
        -2
        Quote: Corsair5912
        Russia is not Libya

        Quote: antoha
        No need to compare Libya with Russia

        Quote: AVV
        Russia is not Libya

        Quote: Imigrantt
        Do not compare Gaddafi with Libya and RUSSIA


        Why are you, fuss? To clear an uncomfortable brow, one does not need to declare war.
        No one, we will not bomb Russia. It's not about the army, not about the presence of a nuclear charge.

        .
    20. oldstaryi
      oldstaryi April 12 2014 23: 16
      +1
      In order to make the ruble gold, you need to have steel eggs. Because everyone remembers what they did to Gaddafi's family and himself for trying to create a single African currency, the "golden dinar"


      Do not make the ruble gold. This is a noose around the neck of our economy. read on the appropriate branch here an article by a tsarist general about the golden ruble. Using dollars, we simply service US foreign debt ... wassat
    21. cergey51046
      cergey51046 April 13 2014 07: 55
      0
      Read the four steps of Sinclair.
    22. ermolai
      ermolai April 13 2014 10: 46
      +2
      VOVKA DOES NOT HAVE STEEL EGGS. HIS NUCLEAR EGGS! EMPTY STARS STRIPED They will try to TOUCH THEM, SUCH A BUNG WILL RECEIVE THAT THEIR ELASTONE FROM SHAME SHALL GO OUT
    23. kotvov
      kotvov April 13 2014 17: 54
      0
      Do not forget, Russia is not Libya, but the ruble is a secured currency, unlike greenery. So we will take a look.
    24. philip
      philip April 14 2014 14: 24
      0
      You didn’t set the minus because we know how to enter Europe correctly, the strait between Canada and Mexico, but you need it. Therefore, RUSSIA has no other choice but to bring down the fake dollar. I totally agree with you that you need steel eggs, I hope they are.
    25. VladimirD
      VladimirD April 14 2014 17: 42
      0
      No need to compare Russia with Syria! Do you really think that with Putin they can do the same as with Gaddafi ??? If you think so, then you are not at all smart Main Beam But first they will try to invade us if they have steel eggs. This is not Syria, but Russia. And the ruble, gold, can be made quickly, not quickly of course, but gradually . Convert ALL trade in oil, gas, rare-earth metals to rubles. And where is Europe, and everyone who buys raw materials from us, will take rubles? Question! Well, well, let's pay in national currencies. And where do you think then will be the doling ?? ?
    26. cumastra1
      cumastra1 April 14 2014 18: 33
      0
      Well, do not compare the country in which Gaddafi was khanate with Russia. Sooo different weight categories, especially if you count in megatons (I almost wrote in parrots;)
    27. cumastra1
      cumastra1 April 14 2014 18: 33
      0
      Well, do not compare the country in which Gaddafi was khanate with Russia. Sooo different weight categories, especially if you count in megatons (I almost wrote in parrots;)
    28. lg41
      lg41 April 15 2014 01: 23
      0
      Alexander - getting ready to test the staleness of eggs
  2. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov April 12 2014 07: 31
    +26
    Americans will fight for their dollar to the last. If ours refuse to trade for bucks, it’s a star in the entire US economy. I don’t know what the Americans might want to prevent, but for them the loss of Ukraine and the reconstruction of the USSR would be preferable to refusal of trade for dollars. Do not step back - lose. Eco world is changing belay
    1. Canep
      Canep April 12 2014 07: 38
      +23
      Hello Alexander! hi The American dollar is provided only with oil, and not ours, but ours, Arab, Venezuelan, etc. As soon as the world abandons the currency - the intermediary - the dollar, a huge mass of dollars walking around the world will flood back to America, which will lead to the collapse of the dollar.
      1. ZU-23
        ZU-23 April 12 2014 08: 16
        +9
        Quote: Canep
        a huge mass of dollars walking around the world will rush back to America, which will lead to a collapse of the dollar.

        I agree, I have been waiting for this scenario for a long time when all the bucks in the world return to their homeland, and the terrorists will go to spend it where they take it. Judoist Putin continues to direct the enemy’s power against the enemy himself laughing
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      3. Irtysh
        Irtysh April 12 2014 08: 37
        +13
        Hey! You are there - be quiet! I have 5 bucks pounded! :-)
        1. fif21
          fif21 April 12 2014 20: 22
          +3
          Quote: Irtysh
          Hey! You are there - be quiet! I have 5 bucks pounded! :-)
          You can't be so mercantile laughing I’ve found my stash here, three rubles from the times of the USSR good
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      4. Professor
        Professor April 12 2014 09: 15
        -15%
        Quote: Canep
        The American dollar is provided only with oil, and not ours, but ours, Arab, Venezuelan, etc. As soon as the world abandons the currency - the intermediary - the dollar, a huge mass of dollars walking around the world will flood back to America, which will lead to the collapse of the dollar.

        Good afternoon,
        Why write about what you absolutely do not understand? request

        PS
        Today America is the number 2 manufacturer, China only last year barely bypassed it with its "screwdriver assembly". Moreover, the artificially kept Yuan at a low level helped China to achieve this. (so labor is cheaper). How is the Yuan exchange rate established? On the exchange? Dudki. The Poltbureau in Beijing decides how much it costs. You cannot freely buy or sell Yuan. Shall we trade for the Yuan which no one guarantees "safety"?

        The US dollar is primarily secured by the real sector of the American economy. Off to my portfolio:
        IBM 203 billion
        Apple 463.72 billion
        Intel 130 billion
        Cisco 115 billion
        Quelcom 131.92 billion
        Upgrade Material 23 Billion
        (More than a trillion dollars !!!)

        Now comes the fun part. What will happen when "a huge mass of dollars walking around the world will rush back to America, which will lead to a collapse of the dollar rate." It is impossible to think of a greater gift for the American economy. It will become cheaper to produce in America overnight - exports will rise uphill, imports will rise in price and demand for local products will grow (from Toyota they will switch to Chrysler), the products of the American military-industrial complex will suddenly become 200-300% cheaper (guess three times who will be the first to lose on this? ), and so on ...
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 12 2014 09: 38
          +13
          Quote: Professor
          Why write about what you absolutely do not understand?

          And so I also think why the professor writes something that he does not understand at all. Or pretends not to what Intent, self-interest, or verbiage request
          professor (3) IL March 31, 2014 11:49 ↑
          Quote: shuhartred
          And who do you think took power in Kiev?
          Really the Nazis? In my opinion, those who were elected by the people remained in parliament and did not notice the Nazis there, but the legally elected parliament is steering in Ukraine.

          Probably on this day, you professor were without glasses.
          1. Professor
            Professor April 12 2014 09: 44
            -23%
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Intent, self-interest, or verbiage

            ... and this is written to me by a person claiming that the Ukrainian language does not exist. Go, go, I do not serve on Saturdays. wassat
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov April 12 2014 10: 08
              +13
              Quote: Professor
              . Go, go, I do not serve on Saturdays.

              Shabbat, I understand, but you violate it. Work on Saturdays, peisaty find out, you can’t do it. You can put a computer on your ears wassat
              And about the lodge, so shekels don’t interest me, but I can pour you rubles tongue
              1. Professor
                Professor April 12 2014 10: 47
                -5
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                And about the lodge, so shekels don’t interest me, but I can pour you rubles

                We have already finished the heating season, and wallpapers in Israel are not in fashion bully
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov April 12 2014 11: 32
                  +13
                  Quote: Professor

                  Our heating season is over,

                  Did you have heating at home? Well, thank God, at least some sign of civilization has appeared.
                  Quote: Professor
                  and wallpapers in Israel are not in fashion

                  It's okay, soon glue the walls with dollars laughing
                  No offense you will be told, but I think this person is smarter than you and me in particular wink


                  Paul Craig Roberts: either the collapse of the dollar, or the war with Russia and China
                  If you recently called the use of nuclear weapons from the realm of fiction, then start pasting the walls with dollars now. And from the shares in which you invested, there will be beautiful original inserts. Wake up to drink tea (you will not have more) and remembering my comments slowly measure Obama laughing Well or so, the same is aesthetically pleasing laughing
                  1. Professor
                    Professor April 12 2014 13: 25
                    -1
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    Did you have heating at home? Well, thank God, at least some sign of civilization has appeared.

                    Everything is fine, Italian fireplace. I drown with wood. True, the street is now plus 19, the sun and haze above the sea, but the sunset will be stunning. good

                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    It's okay, soon glue the walls with dollars

                    They have already frightened us with decaying capitalism, it was not at all that turned down. I remember bragging about "quiet havana", it was so stormy that they still have not recovered ... Your elite keeps money in dollars and not in domestic banks. Does it make you think?

                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    If you recently called the use of nuclear weapons from the realm of fiction, then start pasting the walls with dollars now. And from the shares in which you invested, there will be beautiful original inserts

                    My stock will fly only when you pick out the American Intel processor from your computer and switch to the domestic one developed not in America or Israel, but in Skolkovo and made on domestic equipment, not Uplay materials. In the meantime, you work for my stocks and, accordingly, for my well-being. By the way, do you know who makes chips for the Russian Glonass and where is their research center located? wink
                    1. sled beach
                      sled beach April 12 2014 14: 42
                      +4
                      "Everything is fine, an Italian fireplace. I use firewood. True, it is now plus 19." And so as not to heat the air conditioner, turn it on?
                      1. Professor
                        Professor April 12 2014 15: 22
                        0
                        Quote: Sanya Beach
                        "Everything is fine, an Italian fireplace. I use firewood. True, it is now plus 19." And so as not to heat the air conditioner, turn it on?

                        In winter, we heat the air conditioning, although I prefer the warmth from the fireplace. In summer, air conditioning is fully operational. hi
                      2. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov April 12 2014 15: 39
                        +2
                        Quote: Professor
                        In winter we warm up with air conditioning, although I like the heat from the fireplace more

                        Familiar see crying
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                  3. Pilat2009
                    Pilat2009 April 12 2014 15: 20
                    +2
                    Quote: Professor
                    I drown with wood

                    then birch firewood? and how much?
                    1. Professor
                      Professor April 12 2014 15: 41
                      +1
                      Quote: Pilat2009
                      then birch firewood? and how much?

                      The birch grows only on the golan, and then at the "Russians". We drown with eucalyptus, pine, olives. The average price is $ 100 per cubic meter.
                  4. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov April 12 2014 15: 38
                    +1
                    Quote: Professor
                    . I drown with wood

                    Well this is how we have in distant villages laughing
                    Quote: Professor
                    I remember bragging about "Quiet Havana", it was so stormy that they still did not recover ...

                    This is about the United States in 2008, but the world certainly sounded wassat
                    Quote: Professor
                    Your elite stores money in dollars and not in domestic banks. Doesn’t suggest a thought?

                    Our elite no longer stores money in ignition banks, it’s dangerous. And what’s wrong with your etite, everyone probably transferred the loot in shekel.
                    Quote: Professor
                    . By the way, do you know who makes chips for the Russian Glonass and where is their research center located?

                    As for JPS Kitai laughing And the most interesting, the professor did not comment on the words of a specialist from Harvard
                    1. Professor
                      Professor April 12 2014 15: 45
                      -1
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      Well this is how we have in distant villages

                      Something like that


                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      This is about the United States in 2008, but the world certainly sounded

                      You need to know your leader by heart, otherwise you’ll even be ashamed of you.

                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      Our elite no longer stores money in ignition banks; this is dangerous.

                      What are you saying? Really their children returned to their homeland from Europe, docheri Putin, daughter of Lavrov?

                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      As for JPS Kitai

                      You are mistaken. Kvelkom saves you ...
                  5. Dulat
                    Dulat April 12 2014 23: 51
                    0
                    Timchenko (rich man) transferred money to Russia
                    1. Apollo
                      Apollo April 12 2014 23: 59
                      -1
                      Quote: Dulat
                      Timchenko (rich man) transferred money to Russia

                      In addition, she has Finnish citizenship,
                      http://www.peoples.ru/undertake/hard/gennadiy_timchenko/
                      why did he need it and why has he still not refused ?! winked
                  6. koshh
                    koshh April 13 2014 10: 54
                    -1
                    Quote: Professor
                    My stock will fly only when you pick out the American Intel processor from your computer and switch to a domestic one developed not in America or Israel,

                    You obviously are not aware that all processors have long been manufactured in China.
                    1. Professor
                      Professor April 13 2014 12: 05
                      +2
                      Quote: koshh
                      You obviously are not aware that all processors have long been manufactured in China.

                      Do not confuse "manufactured" and "assembled". But even most of the processors are not assembled in China. And now attention, a list of Intel fabs:
                      List of Intel manufacturing sites



                      PS
                      Assembly:
                      Heredia, Costa Rica
                      Chandler, Arizona
                      Chengdu, China
                      Kulim, Malaysia
                      Penang, Malaysia
                      Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam
                      Jerusalem, Israel
                2. ty60
                  ty60 April 12 2014 20: 54
                  +1
                  unit to you for the great and mighty, whose knowledge is not very different. Moreover, the argument suffers. IMHO
          2. vlad63
            vlad63 April 12 2014 15: 07
            0
            Uncle! And isn’t it all about PROFESORIV that you can give to the ambassador of the USA?
          3. Victor-M
            Victor-M April 13 2014 15: 45
            0
            Quote: Professor
            Go, go, I do not serve on Saturdays.

            Ukrainian is a distorted Russian language, with an admixture of Polish and Moldavian, but about alms, as you rightly noted, your destiny will be torn, or rather robbed of others. laughing
      5. commentor
        commentor April 12 2014 09: 41
        +3
        If you look, he’s not so wrong. The US economy is very powerful, but it is oriented outside the country.

        Therefore, at the moment, the dollar is backed by global demand. The US will not be able to turn on the machine if the dollar relies solely on domestic demand.
        1. dustycat
          dustycat April 12 2014 12: 36
          +4
          Quote: commentor
          The dollar is secured by world demand.

          That's it.
          The global demand for the dollar for trade is only oil.
          The Saudis were persuaded for a very long time to trade not in dinars, but in dollars.
          And only a guarantee of demand for dollars is a guarantee of its oil supply.
          And only with oil.

          And what will happen if this demand drops by 3%?
          If when the Dow falls by only 0,5%, then hysteria and panic begin on all exchanges in the world.
          And then immediately 3% !!
          And this is if only Russia will reduce its interest in dollars.
          And if India also joins this with China and Iran?
          The financiers' panic is common.
          And then it will not matter.
          There was a demand for the dollar or not.
          1. Sour
            Sour April 13 2014 09: 05
            0
            Quote: dustycat
            The Saudis were persuaded for a very long time to trade not in dinars, but in dollars.

            The Saudi currency is called rial, not dinar.
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        3. sled beach
          sled beach April 12 2014 14: 49
          +3
          What difference does it make to us how the dollar is secured, the ruble is important to us, its independence from world currencies. The key to our relatively quiet existence.
      6. Tektor
        Tektor April 12 2014 12: 04
        +4
        Now comes the fun part. What will happen when "huge
        a lot of dollars walking around the world will rush back to America, which will lead to a collapse of the dollar. "It is impossible to think of a greater gift for the American economy. It will become cheaper to produce in America overnight - exports will rise uphill, imports will rise in price and demand for local for Chrysler), the products of the American military-industrial complex will suddenly become 200-300% cheaper (guess three times who will be the first to lose on this?), and so on ...
        This is not just a mistake, it is a lack of common sense. An alternative talent ... A flood of dollars into the US retail market will accelerate inflation, which will inevitably lead to an increase in debt rates. And all: the default of the United States. The US currency is nowhere to be accepted for payment ...
        1. Professor
          Professor April 12 2014 13: 29
          +1
          Quote: Tektor
          This is not just a mistake, it is a lack of common sense. An alternative talent ... A flood of dollars into the US retail market will accelerate inflation, which will inevitably lead to an increase in debt rates. And all: the default of the United States. The US currency is nowhere to be accepted for payment ...

          After the word "default" add "end of the world". Get all the US dollars back, defaulted. They will carry out a monetary reform there and ordinary Americans will only thank you. The American economy will again become number one, Even the Levays will start sewing again in America.
          1. fif21
            fif21 April 13 2014 12: 11
            0
            Quote: Professor
            After the word "default" add "end of the world"
            Professor You know the best-selling US commodity is the dollar. And the seller's face is now wolfish and the whole mouth is covered in blood. He scared the buyers with his "exclusivity".
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        2. dr.star75
          dr.star75 April 12 2014 14: 11
          +2
          The US dollar and the dollar in the rest of the world are 2 different dollars. A dollar that fell into America from outside is immediately withdrawn from circulation.
          1. Sour
            Sour April 13 2014 09: 14
            0
            Quote: dr.star75
            The US dollar and the dollar in the rest of the world are 2 different dollars. A dollar that fell into America from outside is immediately withdrawn from circulation.

            Stupidity and lies from beginning to end.
            How can a dollar get into the US from without? It is understood that as payment for goods or services. But what else? It’ll not blow the wind.
            What does it mean to withdraw from circulation the money that you paid for your goods? This means giving away your goods for free to you. Because you will take your own profit out of circulation.
            Have you ever thought of this elementary thought?
            Repeat Internet lies less and nobody will laugh at your ignorance.
            1. Professor
              Professor April 13 2014 09: 45
              +1
              Quote: Sour
              How can a dollar get into the US from without?

              By bank transfer or bag of cash ...
      7. dustycat
        dustycat April 12 2014 12: 25
        +4
        Quote: Professor
        It is impossible to come up with a greater gift to the American economy. It will become cheaper to produce in America overnight


        About ten years after the disaster, when the dust from hunger riots blows.
        The main problem of Union America is overweight and lazy people.
        It is also poorly educated, but with cerebellum well-washed on the basis of freedom of expression.
        Of course, if you recall the millions of plastic coffins stored in the SGA, the way out is clear and transparent - a radical reduction in the population.
        But if this only reduces tension in the North American union, then it will leave little from the union state.
        But technologies for the construction of new industries require a large number of hands.
        Of course, the personalities that apparently determine the economic policy of the SGA are counting on the influx of emigrants now, but they somehow miss the fact that it’s unlikely that they will be able to enter the country, spoiled by the hunger war, of a large number of people wishing to enter now. If at all, they will be.
      8. IGS
        IGS April 12 2014 12: 50
        +2
        Professor, do you need this? Why in vain do you write lies? This is not your war.
      9. Igor 3456
        Igor 3456 April 12 2014 12: 52
        +5
        For some reason I got the impression that it’s you who write about what you don’t understand.
        The real sector of the economy includes real and not virtual values ​​- factories, ships, natural resources. How much of the price of Apple 463,72 billion is the value of real assets, not stock quotes? If a huge mass of dollars rush back to America, then there will be such a collapse that the Great Depression will seem like a paradise
        America today is the world center of services - financial, legal, etc. The economic potential of America is mostly lost. The real economy should not be confused with the fictitious and holding on to the robbery of the whole world through financial manipulations and direct military threats and interventions. I was always amazed that economic power is measured by an indicator such as GDP, which is not directly related to the real economy. Do you know that if you go to the dentist in America, then the amount you paid to the doctor will be taken into account in the total GDP in the services sector? And what does this have to do with economics?
        1. Professor
          Professor April 12 2014 13: 35
          -4
          Quote: Igor 3456
          For some reason I got the impression that it’s you who write about what you don’t understand

          When it seems baptized.

          Quote: Igor 3456
          How much of the price of Apple 463,72 billion is the value of real assets, not stock quotes?

          Is it hard to take a look? You understand ...
          Net quarterly profit of $ 7.5 billion !!!
          Apple Reports Q4 2013 Year-End Results: $ 7.5 Billion Profit on $ 37.5 Billion in Revenue [Call Concluded]

          Quote: Igor 3456
          America’s economic potential has been largely lost.

          Number 2 in the world is a disaster wassat

          PS
          Speaking at the congress of the Association of Russian Banks in Moscow, Kostin noted: Gazprom, Rosneft and Rosoboronexport in total export products worth $ 230 billion a year.
          $ 230 Only Apel sold on $ 170.9 billions. And laughter and sin lol

          PPS
          Accept the amendment. Apple Reports First Quarter Results
          In the first quarter of 2014, Apple sold $ 57.6 billion (this is both Gazprom, Rosneft and Rosoboronexport combined). First quarter profit $ 13.1 billion. Let's continue with phalometry?
      10. APASUS
        APASUS April 12 2014 13: 37
        +4
        Quote: Professor
        portfolio: IBM 203 billion Apple 463.72 billion Intel 130 billion Cisco 115 billion Kelk 131.92 billion Apple Material 23 billion (More than a trillion dollars !!!)

        Professor, why are you like that.
        After all, you know better than anyone that the real value of an enterprise has nothing to do with the exchange. Hundreds of parameters, some of which are not related at all, are directly involved in this calculation.
        If part of the dollar returns to the United States, then no IBM is enough to cover this mass with real values. In the World, the amount of money exceeds the entire US budget hundreds of times
      11. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 April 12 2014 15: 18
        +4
        Quote: Professor
        It will become cheaper to produce in America overnight

        It will be when the salary of Americans equals that of China. What the Americans say can be predicted
        Quote: Professor
        Shall we trade for the Yuan which no one guarantees "safety"?

        The Chinese now need to buy billions of dollars to buy oil, so 10-20 so they essentially lend to America, which prints them uncontrollably. Let them lend to us better. And you can sell to Europe for euros
        1. Professor
          Professor April 12 2014 15: 29
          -2
          Quote: Pilat2009
          It will be when the salary of Americans equals that of China. What the Americans say can be predicted

          You are mistaken dear. In the last 2-3 years, no one has transferred production to China - it is not profitable. Moreover, I personally know a couple of American companies that return production to the United States, for example Anorad, Applied Materials. The company in which I work returned all the programmers from China to the USA (the Chinese were fired in China, the Americans were hired in the USA) despite the fact that the salary is 1 to 10. The avaricious pays twice.
          1. PATTIY
            PATTIY April 12 2014 18: 01
            +2
            Quote: Professor
            a couple of American companies that return production to the United States

            finally woke up, but late, very late :)))
            Professor, you are not in the subject
      12. jjj
        jjj April 12 2014 15: 20
        +1
        You have been given market capitalization. Those. aerial. This week, the IT sector sank drastically as it was revalued. The bubble started to deflate
        1. Professor
          Professor April 12 2014 16: 09
          +1
          Quote: jjj
          You have been given market capitalization. Those. aerial.

          I have the real value at which these companies can be bought or sold.

          Quote: jjj
          This week, the IT sector sank drastically as it was revalued.

          Can not be? wassat Google sank as much as 1.37%.
      13. Penzyac
        Penzyac April 12 2014 22: 43
        -1
        Quote: Professor
        Quote: Canep
        The American dollar is provided only with oil, and not ours, but ours, Arab, Venezuelan, etc. As soon as the world abandons the currency - the intermediary - the dollar, a huge mass of dollars walking around the world will flood back to America, which will lead to the collapse of the dollar.

        Good afternoon,
        Why write about what you absolutely do not understand? request

        PS
        Today, America is the number 2 manufacturer, ...
        The US dollar is primarily secured by the real sector of the American economy. Off to my portfolio:
        IBM 203 billion
        Apple 463.72 billion
        Intel 130 billion
        Cisco 115 billion
        Quelcom 131.92 billion
        Upgrade Material 23 Billion
        (More than a trillion dollars !!!)
        ...


        So what? Professor, you are raving. You showed only the capitalization of these companies at the current rate, and where are most of their main production capacities (not offices and management) located? That's right, anywhere except America (in the USA, production is not profitable, dear slave force). Significantly more than half of US GDP is services. Even the production capacities of the military-industrial complex are not all located in the United States, much is being done in general in cooperation with the EU, and there is its own currency.
        A fall in the dollar could, as we have in the 98th, cause an increase in domestic production, if for this there were production facilities in the United States. The costs of a post-industrial economy, however. And inflation will trample. Are the people of the United States ready for such trials?
        So, do not blame any propaganda nonsense about the size and sustainability of the US economy! am
        1. Professor
          Professor April 13 2014 08: 17
          +2
          Quote: PENZYAC
          So what? Professor, you are raving. You showed only the capitalization of these companies at the current rate, and where are most of their main production capacities (not offices and management) located? That's right, anywhere except America (in the USA, production is not profitable, dear slave force).

          Not right, most of their production is in the USA. Learn the materiel.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov April 13 2014 08: 24
            0
            Quote: Professor

            Not right, most of their production is in the USA.

            But did it help many companies and banks in the USA in 2008? You taught the materiel professor, but you lost a lot on your shares then. Your whole pyramid will collapse, and the shares will be in the outhouse! Not very convenient, but you don’t have enough on toilet paper laughing
            1. Professor
              Professor April 13 2014 08: 29
              +2
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              But did it help many companies and banks in the USA in 2008?

              The companies listed by me helped a lot and the crisis passed almost by. Spread the numbers?

              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Your whole pyramid will collapse, and the stock will go to the toilet! Not very convenient, but you don’t have enough on toilet paper

              Take care of your assets (unless of course there are), I will take care of mine.
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov April 13 2014 08: 46
                +1
                Quote: Professor
                . Spread the numbers?

                And why, if you do not consider the problem of a public debt of 17 trillion, what's the point in numbers, if I still remember that the shares of all the leading US companies have collapsed, including yours.
                Quote: Professor
                Take care of your assets

                And I do not have stocks, gold and rubles now. The dollars have been merged and not only I, despite their growth in banks. Many of us will refuse to sell you a car for dollars, why? Rumors are a professor, there are rumors, as in August 98. Only now they are not for Russia, but for your friends from the USA.
                And last but not least, I will remain convinced that Paul Kreig Roberts is much smarter than you and his opinion is much higher than yours and more authoritative. But you can personally lay out charts, tables and continue to hover in the financial clouds hi
                Take an example from Atalef, he has already taken out all the money and he is no more stupid than you, and maybe smarter.
                1. Professor
                  Professor April 13 2014 09: 03
                  +2
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  And why, if you do not consider the problem of a public debt of 17 trillion, what's the point in numbers, if I still remember that the shares of all the leading US companies have collapsed, including yours.

                  Separate flies from cutlets, unless of course they can. The US national debt may be at least a quadrillion. Oddly enough, this has no direct relation to the economy. Try presenting them with trillion bills. They will not even turn on the printing press, they will draw you as many zeros as you ask. It is called: To all whom I must, I forgive!

                  PS
                  List of countries by external debt. Try to recover at least a cent on these debts. Good luck.

                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Take an example from Atalef, he has already taken out all the money and he is no more stupid than you, and maybe smarter.

                  They convinced me to exchange shekels and dollars for rubles, not expensive. laughing
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 12 2014 09: 30
      +12
      Quote: Canep
      The American dollar is provided only with oil, and not ours, but ours, Arab, Venezuelan, etc.

      Hello Sergey! There, the professor wrote to you below that you don’t understand anything. The threat to the dollar is a direct threat to Israel, the dollar and the US as a whole will be bad and the help to Israel will be covered with a copper basin. An interesting thing is geopolitics laughing
  3. dustycat
    dustycat April 12 2014 12: 14
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    If ours refuse to trade for bucks, this is the star of the entire US economy.


    Some American seer predicted that the last president of the union American state would be black.
    Last year, a lot of stars about it ...
  • saag
    saag April 12 2014 07: 34
    +2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    In order to make the ruble gold, you need to have steel eggs.

    You need to have so much gold to provide the whole mass of currency, which is far from always possible
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 12 2014 09: 27
      +2
      Quote: saag
      You need to have so much gold to provide the whole mass of currency, which is far from always possible

      Did I write something about gold? If you are quoting someone’s comment or article, be careful.
      1. saag
        saag April 12 2014 09: 32
        -6
        I read carefully, and therefore indicated that you must first have to make the ruble gold, and not some kind of sorry, genitals :-)
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 12 2014 11: 47
          0
          Quote: saag
          I read carefully

          Then, since you are so careful, show me my comments, where I write about steel eggs. Be so kind.
        2. dustycat
          dustycat April 12 2014 12: 43
          +1
          The expression "gold ruble" means that for it you can buy gold, kerosene, booze, food in any corner of the planet.
          In any tavern with it.
          And nothing more.
    2. dustycat
      dustycat April 12 2014 12: 39
      +1
      Quote: saag
      You need to have so much gold to provide the whole mass of currency, which is far from always possible

      "How the state gets richer
      and why he does not need gold
      when a simple product has ".AS Pushkin.
      About one of the founders of the Fed.
      Why the bolt is gold? Do latenesses gilt?
      So for this, the goldfish are available.
  • mamont5
    mamont5 April 12 2014 07: 35
    +6
    "... the statement of the head of VTB, Andrey Kostin, was published. Pay attention: the banker says. And not from the" small "ones.
    According to him, the largest Russian exporters are ready to translate calculations for export deliveries into rubles. No, this is not just an expert opinion. And the expert said about it not in the kitchen over a bottle of tea. "

    But I wonder why he said this? If you caution the United States, like, look, move on and your dollar will feel bad or will it really come out of the dollar circulation gradually? The first is to scare and leave everything as it is. The second - then we must not speak, but do it, and immediately and silently, then the blow to the dollar will be stronger.
    1. dustycat
      dustycat April 12 2014 12: 46
      0
      Quote: mamont5
      But I wonder why he said this?

      This is called a stock poker game.
      He just plays on the value of his bank’s shares.
      Thin poor, and 0,5% rose.
  • Grenz
    Grenz April 12 2014 07: 43
    +8
    Presumably, common sense will prevail in Washington ...

    The author is an optimist in this matter.
    Through all the material, he convinces us that the White House is not friendly with reason and suddenly draws such a conclusion.
    It is already clear that talking about common sense in the actions of Americans is not necessary. There is no a priori and will not be in our understanding.
    But "put flags on them" so that they are forced to accept our conditions, we can and successfully place them.
    It was they who got along with the whole world, and we will find with whom to make friends and exchange goods.
  • ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 April 12 2014 07: 46
    +4
    Russia is preparing a strategic response to America and Europe. At least thinking of such an answer. While the West is puzzling over sanctions, wanting to slyly infringe on Moscow, the Kremlin is counting the return moves.
    Well, if compared with chess, then this move is called Math .. good
  • jura61
    jura61 April 12 2014 07: 52
    -2
    I think the situation in the United States is twofold since Russia will still sell this oil for dollars, but on the other hand, the deal is not under control. I did not understand, but what Russia will supply, if the goods of our production is cool.
  • Deadmen
    Deadmen April 12 2014 08: 01
    +5
    Common sense seems to have left Washington forever. The feeling that US presidents are far from being the first persons of the state to solve the geopolitical tasks of the new era has never abandoned. The feeling that what they are doing is dictated by some super corporations does not leave. I hope I will still witness the collapse of the overseas empire. If it weren’t for Russia and China, I’m sure. The whole world would have already been rife with military bases.
    1. Demo
      Demo April 12 2014 09: 49
      +6
      this is not stupidity this is pride !! amerikosy so believed in their impunity and the fact that they put Russia on its knees (and the floor of the world), that when Russia gave them their teeth so sincerely surprised)))
      1. PATTIY
        PATTIY April 12 2014 18: 17
        +2
        Quote: Demo
        this is not stupidity this is pride !! amerikosy so believed in their impunity ..

        I will add one more thing. I know it personally!
        All Americans think that ALL the peoples of the world certainly dream of living in the United States.
        In my opinion they were brainwashed a very long time and forever :)))
  • mabuta
    mabuta April 12 2014 08: 01
    +9
    America started first. And it drove its engine to a standstill at a crazy speed. But if you look back, they asked her not to do this. A typical judo technique. Using the enemy’s onslaught is against him. Well, we have support.
  • Semenov
    Semenov April 12 2014 08: 11
    +7
    "... Crimean delusions of the West" - well said. Open the eyes of the West with one or two ruble deals with the same Iran. You look, and the understanding of the question of your place will increase.
  • anfil
    anfil April 12 2014 08: 40
    +22
    At the beginning of July 2012, international settlements, bypassing the dollar, were made between countries:
    Japan - China
    China - Russia
    India - Japan
    China - Iran
    India - Iran
    Brazil - China
    Chile - China
    Kazakhstan - China

    Evaluate what aggressive policy China is pursuing in this regard
    China - Japan
    China - Russia
    China - Iran
    China - Brazil
    China - Chile
    China - Kazakhstan

    You can see that:
    1. China is implementing a clear plan to create a system for settlements in RMB.
    2. Such a system is implemented on the basis of interstate agreements between China and other countries.
    3. Since finance is a circulatory system of the economy, the construction of a settlement system in national currency creates the basis for China's profitable foreign trade activity.

    To create a settlement system in RMB, China is taking the following steps:
    1. The People's Bank of China has signed 650 billion yuan in currency swap agreements with the central banks and monetary authorities of Hong Kong, South Korea, Malaysia, Belarus, Indonesia and Argentina.
    2. Formally, settlements in yuan between the legal entities began. persons from five cities of mainland China and enterprises registered in Hong Kong, Macau and ten other states of Southeast Asia.
    3. Chinese President Hu Jintao gave an interview to The Wall Street Journal, in which he called the US dollar “a product of the past.” According to him, Beijing intends to introduce a new global currency, the yuan, to the world market.
    4. In September 2011, Belarusian banks began to carry out settlements in the course of trading with Chinese partners in RMB. This was reported by the Embassy of the Republic of Belarus in China. Belarus switched to RMB
    5. The Ministry of Finance and Chinese experts believe that soon there may be a return of world currencies to the gold standard, which was canceled under pressure from the United States and the International Monetary Fund from the middle of the 1970's. Gold Pillow for RMB
    6. A group of advisers to the State Council of the PRC recommends increasing the gold reserves of China more than threefold by the 2013 year: to 5,7-6 thousand tons. In this case, China will take first place in the world in gold state reserves. And by 2016-2017 years it was proposed to bring them to 10 000 tons.
    7. The London Metal Exchange is thinking of making settlements in RMB The London Metal Exchange
    8. Interest in trading in RMB was expressed by Peru.
    In turn, Russia
    I intend to include the Russian ruble in the number of settlement currencies of the CLS (Continuous Linked Settlement) system. Inclusion of currency in the CLS list allows both citizens and enterprises to make international payments in their own currency, bypassing the conversion to dollars or other convertible currency.
    CLS (Continuous Linked Settlement Bank) is a specialized global settlement bank, which was established in 2002 by twenty leading foreign exchange market dealers as a specialized interbank settlement center.
    1. Mainbeam
      Mainbeam April 12 2014 16: 33
      0
      CLS (Continuous Linked Settlement Bank) is a specialized global settlement bank, which was established in 2002 by twenty leading foreign exchange market dealers as a specialized interbank settlement center.

      Again the exchange center. No more.

      The answer was written so that your koment does not lose. I re-read it again at my leisure.
    2. Motors1991
      Motors1991 April 12 2014 18: 10
      -2
      What joy is it to you? Where are the rubles here? This is despite the fact that 20 years ago China spent less energy than in the USA on air conditioners. Where do you see Russia’s place in the Chinese world and is there any? I already wrote I repeat once again that we will be sitting in the same trenches together with the USA and Europe against China, such is the logic of history, whether or not it is like it.
      1. fif21
        fif21 April 12 2014 20: 54
        -1
        Quote: Motors1991
        I already wrote and I will repeat once again that we will be sitting in the same trenches together with the USA and Europe against China, such is the logic of history, whether it likes or not.
        Ukraine may climb into this trench, but Russia is unlikely am Especially in light of recent events angry
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      3. Penzyac
        Penzyac April 12 2014 23: 26
        0
        Quote: Motors1991
        What joy is it to you? Where are the rubles here? This is despite the fact that 20 years ago China spent less energy than in the USA on air conditioners. Where do you see Russia’s place in the Chinese world and is there any? I already wrote I repeat once again that we will be sitting in the same trenches together with the USA and Europe against China, such is the logic of history, whether or not it is like it.


        Perhaps it will be so, but later, but for now, the destruction of the American neo-colonial financial empire and the reformatting of international relations are on the agenda. hi
  • Quantum
    Quantum April 12 2014 08: 51
    +1
    Yes, this has already been done since 2011. It's nice to hear that we are able to have
    asymmetric answer to the hegemon!
  • homosum20
    homosum20 April 12 2014 08: 52
    +18
    "America will buy Arab oil for rubles"
    In general, I hope for more:
    1. Not oil, but firewood.
    2. Do not buy, but saw in Kolyma.
    1. ermolai
      ermolai April 13 2014 14: 01
      +1
      I DON'T NEED THE FIRE SAWING ON THE KOLYM, THERE AFTER THE GLOVER, THE FOREST HAS NOT RESTORED, NORTH UNDERSTAND. NATURE IS RESTORING SLOWLY.
  • -SHADOW-
    -SHADOW- April 12 2014 09: 08
    +7
    There is still not much and the euro with the dollar will replace the RUBLE WITH THE YUAN !!!
    IN THE USA WILL BE BACK THEIR FAVORITE DEPRESSION AND TONS OF GREEN PAPER))
    AND WITH CHINA YOU NEED TO KEEP EARS ON THE MOUNT
  • onegin61
    onegin61 April 12 2014 09: 09
    +6
    It is high time to unite with the BRICS countries and others that have gold security for the currency, to agree among themselves for their currencies and for gold. And this will be an example for the rest to abandon candy wrappers and take the main measure of economic viability of natural resources, gold, technology.
  • bomg.77
    bomg.77 April 12 2014 09: 19
    +11
    I’ll add to the overall picture.
    Saudi Arabia has reduced, for unknown reasons, oil production at 300 thousand barrels per day.
    Within one day, April 10, American companies dipped by 7 percent, and oil went up!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 12 2014 09: 26
      +4
      Quote: bomg.77
      Within one day, April 10, American companies dipped by 7 percent, and oil went up!

      Hi Lech! I do not understand, the United States against whom the sanctions imposed, against Russia or America laughing
      1. bomg.77
        bomg.77 April 12 2014 09: 39
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Hi Lech! I do not understand, the United States against whom the sanctions imposed, against Russia or America
        Hi Sasha! hi
        Here, too, at a loss request
    2. Igor 3456
      Igor 3456 April 12 2014 12: 57
      +2
      Sanctions however
  • parus2nik
    parus2nik April 12 2014 09: 23
    +2
    Firmly, they took the USA by its eggs, one movement of the hand and ...
  • kotyara
    kotyara April 12 2014 09: 25
    +2
    They will not buy oil for rubles! In the event of a collapse, oil consumption will drop sharply, its own will be enough for self-sufficiency if the country does not fall apart!
    1. Tektor
      Tektor April 12 2014 12: 09
      +1
      We must bend our line, but bend "smoothly": first, introduce the possibility of payment in rubles, then the obligatory partial payment in the amount of tax deductions of companies to the budget of the Russian Federation, so as not to pay the exchange interest. Well, then ...
      1. Penzyac
        Penzyac April 12 2014 23: 31
        0
        Quote: Tektor
        We must bend our line, but bend "smoothly": first, introduce the possibility of payment in rubles, then the obligatory partial payment in the amount of tax deductions of companies to the budget of the Russian Federation, so as not to pay the exchange interest. Well, then ...


        Isn't that too smooth?
  • Baikal
    Baikal April 12 2014 09: 27
    +4
    From this infographic alone, it’s clear that it’s real to keep the world for the genitals of those marked green wink
    1. Lvovich
      Lvovich April 12 2014 21: 00
      +3
      And why is Crimea not green? The mess.
      1. Baikal
        Baikal April 12 2014 22: 32
        +1
        Yes, a mess. Blame s laughing
  • Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 April 12 2014 09: 34
    +1
    Hello!
    I think that Russia will not go to dump the dollar for the reason that China supports the Amer dollar for some time with assets and requires gold from mattresses, if Russia throws off the dollar, then China will not be able to collect its debts from mattresses, like that.
    1. ty60
      ty60 April 12 2014 21: 29
      0
      and here is a thin line of parity. A reset speed will be important.
  • nika3107
    nika3107 April 12 2014 09: 58
    +1
    Go Russia!!!
  • ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 April 12 2014 10: 32
    +5
    Quote: Demo
    this is not stupidity this is pride !! amerikosy so believed in their impunity and the fact that they put Russia on its knees (and the floor of the world), that when Russia gave them their teeth so sincerely surprised)))
    So that they were given in the teeth, this does not enter into their conception at all. Don't get used to it ....
  • Little Muck
    Little Muck April 12 2014 11: 06
    +6
    The main thing is not to fuss.
    Without shouting, threats of sanctions, protruding breasts, we bring the enemy to a state "quietly rustling slate, the roof is going slowly".
    And as a fact of a sign of complete inadequacy of the patient will be recorded, we will swaddle in a straitjacket. You don't have to close your mouth so that the steam goes on horseback, otherwise it will go the other way and the "smell" will still be the same.
    And the following will be the end of therapy. America will have to buy oil in the same Middle East, but ... for rubles.
  • Sergei75
    Sergei75 April 12 2014 11: 22
    0
    Quote: anfil
    1. China is implementing a clear plan to create a system for settlements in RMB.
    2. Such a system is implemented on the basis of interstate agreements between China and other countries.
    3. Since finance is a circulatory system of the economy, the construction of a settlement system in national currency creates the basis for China's profitable foreign trade activity.


    I support, China has something to sell for RMB, and this is not $ billion worth of raw materials, but goods ranging from children's toys to electronics, weapons, and technology - $ trillion.
    And now the situation has developed that China does not need the whole World, but the whole World needs China, it would be foolish not to make the yuan a currency, moreover, in this situation, it will be able to squeeze the bucks and occupy its niche and then the economies of other countries will support China.
    And how much the World depends on us, well, we sell something for billions of dollars, so it will be easier for the guys to exchange the dollar for rubles and buy resources and those few goods from us, complaining again about the "mysterious Russian soul".
    Not guys, we are not ready for such a deal now, even in Soviet times we needed a currency, and the USSR, in comparison with us, had more potential.
  • Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya April 12 2014 11: 31
    0
    Quote: MainBeam
    First of all, this should concern our oil and gas companies, so that they boldly go to conclude contracts in rubles and in the currency of the partner country.

    Chatter. Now the central bank of the Russian Federation is an exchange office. There is no ruble as an independent currency. Any candy wrappers can be paid: dollars, euros, rubles ... The meaning of this does not change. Political word games.

    In order to make the ruble gold, you need to have steel eggs. Because everyone remembers what they did to Gaddafi's family and himself for trying to create a single African currency, the "golden dinar"
    In my opinion, Vova showed the world that his eggs are steel, and if he takes the southeast of Ukraine, then there will be no doubt that they are titanium!
  • Good_Taxist
    Good_Taxist April 12 2014 12: 55
    +3
    Quote: MainBeam
    In order to make the ruble gold, you need to have steel eggs.

    We have such people! .. and I know One!
  • 1812 1945
    1812 1945 April 12 2014 13: 10
    +2
    Any actions, even - statements of intentions to abandon the use of unsecured money, but which are a political instrument of asserting the hegemony of the Anglo-Saxon empire and their satellites (often forced to be so - by force) is an absolute blessing. And the replacement for the current order is the "Natural Economic Order" (Johann Silvio Gesell - Freiwirtschaf). Free money (Freigeld) should replace all these "reserve currencies", in the provision of which, only - self-interest and the desire for world domination. Settlements in rubles are one of the first and surest steps towards a new, more equitable world order.
  • Verdent
    Verdent April 12 2014 13: 22
    +3
    It is not profitable for Russia to dump the dollar in a short time, moreover, it is not profitable for any country, everyone is too dependent on this useless green piece of paper from the FRS, so there is no need to think that entering a calculation in rubles "will instantly collapse the ovsky currency." The departure from the dollar will be gradual, in Russia and China they understand this, actively buying gold in bars, ensuring the value of their own currencies for the future, by the time they get stronger against the background of the devalued dollar. I am not an expert in currency manipulation, but I am not so naive, believing that the lowered oil production in the UAE and the drop in US stocks did not happen for nothing, especially considering Obama's last visit to the Emirates and the sudden appearance of TOW missile systems in the Syrian "rebels" of American origin, which the UAE asked to provide the American side a long time ago. Some kind of agreement was definitely reached between them, the details of which will still surface, you just need to wait and be on your guard, so you don't need to lose your vigilance and think that everything is happening just like that and the collapse of US interests is inevitable, Americans are very stupid in politics, but to be smart in the economy, sorry for the wording, they know how.
  • Russ69
    Russ69 April 12 2014 13: 27
    +4
    With their moronic threats, SCCA will force Russia to simply abandon Western banks and switch to settlements in rubles ...

    WASHINGTON, April 12. The United States explained the essence of the sanctions imposed the day before against the Crimean company Chernomorneftegaz, as well as a number of leaders of the republic: they are aimed at preventing the work of Gazprom on the peninsula.
    “No one invests in Crimea with impunity,” said a spokesman for the US administration on condition of anonymity.
    He said that sanctions would affect Gazprom in the event of the acquisition of a part of Chernomorneftegaz or the conclusion of transactions with it. The United States does not buy Russian gas, but Gazprom may encounter serious problems in conducting foreign exchange settlements with importers: often, American institutions act as correspondent banks for such settlements.
    The US emphasizes that the sanctions apply only to the Chernomorneftegaz enterprise in Simferopol, and not to the head office in Ukraine, reports Postimees.
    Gazprom previously announced plans to build an underwater gas pipeline to the Crimea, as well as take part in a tender for the privatization of a local energy company.
  • mig31
    mig31 April 12 2014 13: 41
    +4
    It is necessary for everyone to get rid of American candy wrappers in mutual settlements, then a new international money will come into the world, God forbid that it was RUBLE !!!
  • subbtin.725
    subbtin.725 April 12 2014 13: 41
    +3
    Glory to the ruble
  • HF
    HF April 12 2014 14: 12
    +1
    Quote: mirag2
    It is impossible now to carry out any global changes in the economy, how can the political situation calm down, then act.
    Or, only if the edge has already come.
    For sharp changes somewhere is also a factor of destabilization.

    Well, if it’s not the land now, it’s scary to imagine that you think the land! stop
  • duchy
    duchy April 12 2014 14: 46
    +2
    It’s high time to bury the bucks, and about gold, because a revolution could happen there. bully Where will gold go from the USA, if it is there? what
  • Yugra
    Yugra April 12 2014 14: 49
    +5
    Russia's answer is not soon, but will follow
  • individual
    individual April 12 2014 15: 00
    +1
    When China supports Russia to bypass the dollar and trade in national currencies, ordinary Americans will paste over the walls of their toilets with bankrupt banknotes instead of wallpaper.
    Grandchildren-great-grandchildren will remember on the pot about the former greatness of their cut candy wrappers!
  • Barmal
    Barmal April 12 2014 15: 02
    -1
    Quote: MainBeam


    In order to make the ruble gold, you need to have steel eggs. Because everyone remembers what they did to Gaddafi's family and himself for trying to create a single African currency, the "golden dinar"



    what evidence can there be that the alternative dollar is the US dollar is gold?
  • Platov
    Platov April 12 2014 16: 04
    0
    The transition from dollar to ruble is very good. Americans with their candy wrappers will be ... ne. They will look and see how one can live on one dollar, they will feel in their own skin what it means to live according to the requirements.
  • Giant thought
    Giant thought April 12 2014 16: 34
    +4
    In principle, there is already an agreement with China on the rejection of the dollar as a means of payment. But this will happen gradually, because neither we nor the Chinese are interested in the instant collapse of the dollar. As they say, the rush is needed when catching fleas, etc., but the process has already been launched, you can be sure that such things are done without deafening publicity, such is the specificity of this type of activity.
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac April 13 2014 00: 10
      0
      Quote: Giant thought
      In principle, there is already an agreement with China on the rejection of the dollar as a means of payment. But this will happen gradually, because neither we nor the Chinese are interested in the instant collapse of the dollar. As they say, the rush is needed when catching fleas, etc., but the process has already been launched, you can be sure that such things are done without deafening publicity, such is the specificity of this type of activity.


      Our desire with the Chinese (to do everything gradually) may not be enough. The Americans themselves can dramatically speed up the process, for example, by trying to complicate dollar payments for Gazprom’s gas, in which case Russia will have to urgently switch to selling gas only for rubles. The imposition of sanctions against Gazprom will turn into sanctions against the dollar and US financial companies.
  • mdwspb
    mdwspb April 12 2014 16: 43
    +1
    Give the Russian ruble commodity exchange!
  • pvv113
    pvv113 April 12 2014 17: 07
    +9
    Obama asked the clairvoyant:
    - Who will win the Russian-American war?
    “I have no right to say that,” the clairvoyant answered.
    “Well, fine,” Obama said. “How much will a chisburger in the US cost in 10 years?”
    “One ruble, 20 kopecks,” the clairvoyant answered.
  • pensioner
    pensioner April 12 2014 17: 14
    +2
    Thank you Oleg for the good article.
    It seems that Putin is preparing something like a magic pendal for the entire liberal party in our country.
  • Polarfox
    Polarfox April 12 2014 17: 28
    +5
    But the royal ruble was convertible. And revered in the world no lower than the dollar.
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac April 13 2014 00: 14
      0
      Quote: Polarfox
      But the royal ruble was convertible. And revered in the world no lower than the dollar.


      The Tsar ruble was revered much higher than the dollar, along with the British pound.
  • andrei72
    andrei72 April 12 2014 17: 36
    +6
    Quote: commentor
    The transition to payment in rubles will lead to an increase in the demand of our currency.
    This is the main reason why you can not abruptly switch to this method of payment. To meet this demand, Russia will have to provide liquidity in the world - to print rubles, in short. With our inflation, it will be a disaster.

    An important point is the strengthening of the ruble in this situation: if the ruble begins to strengthen sharply, a large budget deficit will form.

    In the end, the ruble will become a stable currency, and inflation in the country will drop sharply, but this will take decades.
    Thoughts are right, conclusions are wrong. Why DO NOT I switch to payment in rubles? If the demand for rubles is large, then the liquidity of the ruble will be large, which means inflation will go to other countries, inflation will go down !!!
    If the ruble strengthens, there will be no ruble deficit - on the contrary, there will be a sharp jump in its investment attractiveness.
  • geto123
    geto123 April 12 2014 18: 21
    0
    Well, I am against the gold ruble, gold is not unlimited by name from paper))
    1. Barmal
      Barmal April 12 2014 19: 45
      +1
      definitely, gold must remain in the state.
  • razved
    razved April 12 2014 18: 26
    +1
    I think that people in the power of which the adoption of such decisions evaluated all the possible consequences of such measures. To do this, they have the necessary information.
  • stillrat
    stillrat April 12 2014 18: 54
    0
    How do you want, but I believe in the Americans. For so many years they crap to us and then suddenly it all ends? No, they probably already thought up something for mattresses. So you have to wait for global muck.
  • Indifferent
    Indifferent April 12 2014 19: 19
    +3
    We cannot sharply chop the branch on which we are sitting. The process of switching to rubles will be difficult and possibly tragic. But it will be! It's time for amers to tear off their umbilical cord and work like everyone else.
  • I think so
    I think so April 12 2014 19: 59
    -4
    The article is NOT CONVINCING! Mantras about "dollar bills, nothing but someone else's oil, not backed up" are popular in incompetent Russian publications ... In reality, these "bills" are very much secured apart from somebody else's oil (and she, too) as follows:
    1. The trust of both the population and the central banks of ALL countries of the world to "these pieces of paper" ...
    2. An established system for posting payments WORLDWIDE ...
    3. An established system of DESTRUCTION of competitors and opponents ...
    4. The centuries-old experience of bankers owning this tool ...
    5. Technical economic and power support of the most powerful economy of the planet ...

    As a result, that there is foreign oil that there is NO DIFFERENCE for the USD system!
    And the article is a pale attempt to intimidate THIS MONSTER with some kind of childish emissions about "translation into rubles" ...
    1. fif21
      fif21 April 12 2014 21: 12
      +2
      Quote: I think so
      1. The trust of both the population and the central banks of ALL countries of the world to "these pieces of paper" ... 2. An established system for posting payments WORLDWIDE ... 3. An established system of DESTROYING competitors and adversaries ... 4. Centuries of experience of bankers who own this instrument ... 5. Technical economic and military support of the most powerful economy of the planet ...
      p. 1, p. 3, p. 5 began to malfunction, there is something to think about and take preventive measures. hi
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    3. DAYMAN
      DAYMAN April 12 2014 21: 15
      +4
      Your arguments are not convincing either ...
      paragraph 4. this tool does not have "centuries of experience"
      point 3. generally says that you are "afraid" ...
      1. I think so
        I think so April 13 2014 19: 50
        -4
        Yes, you generally delved into the essence of the DOLLAR SYSTEM or read urapatriotic nonsense about "empty pieces of paper"?
        Point 4: The people OWNING the dollar system HAVE AGE OF EXPERIENCE in running and maintaining this system in excellent condition. I will dare to make a small excursion into history for you, this is useful for ignoramuses. It all started with the Rothschilds, who financed both the French and English courts and profited from their wars. Then they learned with the help of crises of "overproduction", but in fact a sharp curtailment of cash to pocket other people's property. Since then, it has gone, every 20-30 years a small crisis, and every 100 years a BIG crisis. So they seized all the property of Europe, the United States, and now Russia ...
        Item 3. What are they afraid of me? The collapse of the dollar system? So this cannot happen IN PRINCIPLE, the owners of the dollar system will NEVER allow their MOST POWERFUL TOOL to be destroyed by affecting the world's population. For suckers like you, they will organize "crises", maybe they will even switch from the current incarnation of the dollar to another, such as AMERO or EURO, but all this is only for the sole purpose of picking out suckers and strangers! AND THE SYSTEM WILL REMAIN ... and you will apparently be among those who will be fooled and robbed ... judging by your comments ...
        1. fif21
          fif21 April 13 2014 20: 18
          0
          Quote: I think so
          Point 3. What are they afraid of me? The collapse of the dollar system? So this cannot happen. IN PRINCIPLE, the owners of the dollar system will NEVER allow
          Never say never loshara wassat What do you think? fool
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  • Everest2014
    Everest2014 April 12 2014 21: 00
    0
    I just draw one small parallel, and you think:

    - 2003 - financial analysts note the instability of the dollar and the possibility of its collapse. Iraq threatened to shut off the oil pipe to the states.

    - 2003, in the USA they report on the existence of nuclear weapons and weapons of mass destruction in Iraq with all the ensuing howls around the world about democracy and the overthrow of a tyrant with the entry of US and British troops there.

    All my conclusions can be checked by googling.
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac April 13 2014 00: 33
      +1
      Quote: everest2014
      I just draw one small parallel, and you think:

      - 2003 - financial analysts note the instability of the dollar and the possibility of its collapse. Iraq threatened to shut off the oil pipe to the states.

      - 2003, in the USA they report on the existence of nuclear weapons and weapons of mass destruction in Iraq with all the ensuing howls around the world about democracy and the overthrow of a tyrant with the entry of US and British troops there.

      All my conclusions can be checked by googling.


      Only, Russia is not Iraq, but GDP is not Saddam and Russia's nuclear weapons are not a mythical BWO in vitro. hi
  • vst6
    vst6 April 12 2014 21: 12
    +1
    Now you need to strike while the iron is hot.
    1. I think so
      I think so April 13 2014 20: 01
      -6
      On your comment there is a wonderful rhyme from the Soviet past - "If you want to live, but if you want to strike, you will get x anyway." I consider attempts to fight such a monster as the dollar system by the current forces, even Russia + China, DOED TO FAIL. Well, they will not be allowed into world finances, and if they are allowed, they will immediately be ruined and robbed ... it is still surprising how they have not yet been done ...