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In the sky - the changing of the guard. Air Force buy the latest fighters

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In the sky - the changing of the guard. Air Force buy the latest fighters

A new contract is being prepared for the supply to the Armed Forces of the newest super destroyers. By 2015, the Air Force will get 48 Su-35C.


This was reported by the ARMS-TASS news agency with reference to the UAC president Mikhail Pogosyan. According to Pogosyan, this year the corporation will supply the Su-24S fighter aircraft in full serial configuration to the 35 air force. Twelve fighters were transferred to military pilots in early February, and the next twelve will be delivered before the end of the year. In 2015, the transfer of the final 14 aircraft of this type is scheduled. Given the previously delivered four flight test vehicles and six Su-35s transferred in 2012, all 48 fighters will go to the Air Force.

The signing of a new long-term contract with the Ministry of Defense for the production of Su-35С is expected at the end of this - the beginning of next year. Thus, the Su-35S will become the main heavy fighters of our Air Force. However, Su-27, after repairs and upgrades, will still be able to continue its service. It must be said that the development in the troops of the new machine goes without any problems, since at its core is the platform Su-27, which the pilots are well mastered.

According to its characteristics, the new fighter comes close to the fifth generation. Su-35S develops speed up to 2400 km / h and flies nonstop to the distance to 3600 km. Combat load - 8 tons. On the external suspension of the machine can carry all types of aircraft weapons. The aircraft is equally good as a fighter, as a long-range interceptor, and as a bomber-rocket carrier. It can hit air, ground and surface targets.

Radar system "Irbis" installed on the fighter, the most powerful in the world. She sees at a distance of 400 km, makes it possible to accompany simultaneously up to thirty, and to fire up to eight targets. The Su-35S is equipped with a navigation system that autonomously determines the location of the aircraft and the parameters of its movement in the absence of satellite navigation and communication with ground services. That is, if the GPS or GLONASS are turned off, the fighter will not get lost.

It may be recalled that the Deputy Prime Minister and Chairman of the Military Industrial Complex Dmitry Rogozin will participate in the shooting of the author’s documentary film “Dry”. The choice of the goal ". The main role in it is assigned just Su-35C.
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  1. TAMERLAN 7
    TAMERLAN 7 April 10 2014 09: 45
    +27
    By 2015, the Air Force will receive 48 Su-35S.
    Why so few! Need more! The situation is this, but they are barely moving! Over there, the United States recently rattled their bones, they say the Russians are only bluffing, but there is no real power (they forgot that our real and main strength is ICBMs). It is necessary to increase !!!
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    2. SS68SS
      SS68SS April 10 2014 09: 52
      +43
      There should be not a lot and not a little, but enough ... One ten is worth it and not only for the price.
      1. bvi1965
        bvi1965 April 10 2014 11: 31
        +15
        So far, "enough" is far enough.
      2. svp67
        svp67 April 10 2014 12: 01
        +49
        what talk there, his flight just needs to be seen and seen - to enjoy ...
        1. The Art of War
          The Art of War April 10 2014 15: 19
          +1
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VOFdXO929Q
          1. elmi
            elmi April 10 2014 17: 23
            +8
            Thus, the Su-35S will become the main heavy fighters of our Air Force

            Heavy fighters are good, but what about light fighters? In the army, the ratio of light fighters to heavy fighters should be 3 to 1. And we get a roll towards the heavy. When will pay attention to the instant? their financing, state defense. order, etc. There should not be complete monopoly on Su, because in healthy competition masterpieces of weapons development are born.
        2. Semen Semyonitch
          Semen Semyonitch April 10 2014 19: 29
          +4
          How often I watch this flight, and each time I do not deny myself the pleasure of re-viewing! good
          1. bistrov.
            bistrov. April 10 2014 21: 12
            +3
            Quote: Semyon Semyonich
            How often I watch this flight, and each time I do not deny myself the pleasure of re-viewing!

            Yes, indeed, the impression is that he is alive!
        3. Docent1984
          Docent1984 April 10 2014 20: 32
          +3
          Here is a handsome man! The ingenious brainchild of ingenious people.
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        5. GradusHuK
          GradusHuK April 10 2014 21: 43
          +2
          Handsome! More good technique homeland !!!
          1. gingerbread man 59
            gingerbread man 59 April 10 2014 22: 39
            +1
            I’m an old tankman myself, but from modern fighter jets I’m bastard
      3. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg April 10 2014 15: 55
        +2
        Quote: SS68SS
        There should be not a lot and not a little, but enough ... One ten is worth it and not only for the price.

        Quote: SS68SS
        There should be not a lot and not a little, but enough ... One ten is worth it and not only for the price.


        the price is just less than ten ...
    3. maks-101
      maks-101 April 10 2014 09: 52
      +35
      Su-35s + Su-27 upgraded normally, soon the T-50 will arrive in time and here we need more.
      1. GreatRussia
        GreatRussia April 10 2014 09: 58
        +33
        Quote: maks-xnumx
        Su-35s + Su-27 upgraded normally

        + SU-30

        Only until 2016 will be delivered:

        Signed a contract for 30 Su-30SM until 2015. Plus another supply contract signed 30 Su-30SM fighters until 2016. Plus contract for 16 Su-30M2 aircraft for 2013-2015.

        Those. only until 2016, the SU-30 of various modifications will be of the order 76 pieces.
        Together with SU-35 there will be new Dryers over 120 pieces, not counting the upgraded 27's.
        Plus new MiG-29SMT, already in service, about 30.

        And this is only for the latest fighter aircraft until 2016.
        1. GreatRussia
          GreatRussia April 10 2014 10: 15
          +8
          Quote: GreatRussia

          + SU-30

          Only until 2016 will be delivered:

          A contract was signed for 30 Su-30SM until 2015. Plus, another contract was signed for the supply of 30 Su-30SM fighters until 2016. Plus a contract for 16 Su-30M2 aircraft for 2013-2015.

          Those. only until 2016, the SU-30 of various modifications will be about 76 pieces.
          Together with the SU-35 of the new SUshki there will be over 120 pieces, not counting the upgraded 27s.
          Plus new MiG-29SMT, already in service, about 30.

          And this is only for the latest fighter aircraft until 2016.

          PS For fighter aircraft, not counting also the upgraded MIG-31.
          Well, there is hope that the issue with the MIG-35 will still be resolved.
        2. evgenii67
          evgenii67 April 10 2014 15: 04
          +1
          + The Su-34, in addition to being able to work on the ground, is also capable of "butting" in the air.
        3. Su24
          Su24 April 10 2014 20: 40
          +3
          You haven’t figured it all out yet. 60 Su-30SM for the Air Force +20 Su-30M2 for them. +50 Su-30SM for the Navy. Total 130 units +12 Su-27SM3 +48 Su-35 +55 MiG-29SMT (existing and under construction) +24 MiG-29K. A total of 269 new fighters in 2009-2017. And this is only under current contracts.
          1. gingerbread man 59
            gingerbread man 59 April 10 2014 22: 44
            -3
            it’s very good, but in the summer the carnage will begin.
      2. mamont5
        mamont5 April 10 2014 10: 15
        +2
        Quote: maks-xnumx
        Su-35s + Su-27 upgraded normally, soon the T-50 will arrive in time and here we need more.

        And when will the t-50 appear? We’d rather go to the series.
        1. silver_roman
          silver_roman April 10 2014 12: 11
          +5
          Well, it is expected in 16-17. God grant that there are no pitfalls, but it seems that all of them have already been identified and successfully overcome.
          so, I believe, there will be another batch of Su-35s in the amount of 48 pieces. Just in time for the arrival of the T-50, 8 squadrons of the 35th will be put on the wing!
          1. silaichev
            silaichev April 10 2014 19: 02
            +1
            From 2016 the first will go.
        2. Val_y
          Val_y April 10 2014 12: 34
          0
          They say that after 2016 they will be delivered to the Air Force, in connection with the current political situation, I think that the tests are in full swing, and after 2016 the Air Force will be delivered on a large scale soldier good
        3. Cherdak
          Cherdak April 10 2014 12: 56
          +7
          Quote: mamont5
          And when will the t-50 appear?

          Production facilities for serial production of a promising front-line aviation complex (PAK FA), also known as a 5th generation fighter, to be delivered by the Air Force in 2016, have already been deployed. See http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/48644/
      3. Baikal
        Baikal April 10 2014 10: 25
        +6
        And they still hope that by the time the T-50 "arrives in time", the corresponding nomenclature will also "arrive in time" for it. For MPH without testicles does not work harmoniously yes
      4. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch April 10 2014 19: 31
        -1
        Quote: maks-xnumx
        Su-35s + Su-27 upgraded normally, soon the T-50 will arrive in time and here we need more.


        ..and there will still be PAK yes
    4. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 10 2014 09: 59
      +24
      Thus, the Su-35S will become the main heavy fighters of our Air Force
      They will become basic when hundreds of them are in service.
      1. oblako
        oblako April 10 2014 11: 06
        +8
        By themselves, they do not mean much without appropriate ways to use it. Infrastructure for combat use is needed, an appropriate information field, interaction with AWACS, communications, counteraction against electronic warfare, air defense air defense systems, appropriate airfield service units, and of course trained pilots. Without this, and mass character like the t-34 during the war ... There is, but we can’t use it effectively ... It seems to me that we are fighting for the status of this aircraft. Although the platform is certainly good. And we, it seems, need the T-34 in the sky en masse.
        1. alicante11
          alicante11 April 10 2014 14: 54
          0
          By themselves, they do not mean much without appropriate ways to use it. Infrastructure for combat use is needed, an appropriate information field, interaction with AWACS, communications, counteraction against electronic warfare, air defense air defense systems, appropriate airfield service units, and of course trained pilots.


          All this is there, look at the composition of the Russian Air Force. There are also AWACS and EW aircraft. Well, about the air defense in general would be silent, ours is "the best". I don’t know about the airfields, but considering the howl we raised at the Crimean airfields, it’s still a little better than there. The pilots also have a raid. So I don't see any particular problems. By the way, the T-34 is a good tank anyway, but the staffs of the mechanized formations were worse than the German ones. Plus the understaffing of trucks and TPZ led to problems with their maneuverability. Hence the result.
          1. VAF
            VAF April 10 2014 15: 20
            +2
            Quote: alicante11
            There are aircraft .... and electronic warfare.


            If possible, then about it ... in more detail wink
            1. sivuch
              sivuch April 10 2014 15: 49
              +2
              Well, there are definitely EW helicopters. And, if not difficult, the question about Platan, more precisely, its adjustment, has hung on a nearby branch.
              1. VAF
                VAF April 10 2014 16: 27
                +3
                Quote: sivuch
                Well, there are definitely EW helicopters


                This is only to ensure the actions of army aviation and to suppress the means of detection and target designation of air defense systems SD .. no more wink in the corridors of passage and breakthrough.
                On a plane tree .. a little later ... now garden and earthwork crying
            2. alicante11
              alicante11 April 10 2014 15: 52
              0
              AN-12 PPS and verticals, like, based on the Mi-8. If the memory serves, there were some modifications of the Su-24 for electronic warfare. I am not special in this, I think you know better.

              http://www.rusarmy.com/forum/topic7040.html


              Also last year, they conducted state tests of the IL-22PP.
              1. VAF
                VAF April 10 2014 16: 08
                +3
                Quote: alicante11
                AN-12 PPS and verticals, like, based on the Mi-8. If the memory serves, there were some modifications of the Su-24 for electronic warfare. I am not special in this, I think you know better.


                About An-12PPS with Azalea and Bouquets .. forget it as .. "bad dream" crying
                Mi-8MT in electronic warfare versions yes there are .. but they provide only suppression in the corridor of the breakthrough or flight of the UG no more, although the "smalta" complex good , but the range ..... "will be too small" for the IBA still back and forth, but for the FBA and even more so YES .. well, no sideways.
                Su-24MP there were only 10 serial ones ... 4th are with us in Lipetsk, 6 are with Ukrainians in Starokonstantinov.no. I think it's not 6 but 5 ... I don’t remember exactly.
                the only one flying in the LII. but this is generally an experimental copy.
                and 2oborudovaniya2 already on them .. as old as my life .. even at that time against the radar ID even less, and against the HEADLIGHT ... as a "dead primary".
                PAo IL-18PP-complacency and cut ... no more ..... setting out of the zones? I beg you .... following with BP? this is generally .. how?
                and so on ..... in general ..pichalka .. only hope for individual defense systems. but what would someone and something to suppress .... "this is fantastic" wassat
                1. alicante11
                  alicante11 April 10 2014 16: 18
                  +1
                  Why forget? In Georgia, they were used normally. What does it have to do with Bukov, however, Ukrainian, maybe unmodernized.
                  We are talking about countering enemy aircraft, so this is exactly the "patrimony" of the IBA, if I correctly decoded as fighter-bomber aviation.
                  There is information that the Su-34 was used as electronic warfare. And, by the way, there are also ground-based electronic warfare stations (like "Krasukha"), which are much more powerful than air ones.

                  By IL-22pp
                  http://army-news.ru/2013/06/porubshhik-kanalov-svyazi-novyj-samolet-reb/
                  Are they saying something wrong?
                  1. VAF
                    VAF April 10 2014 16: 42
                    +5
                    Quote: alicante11
                    In Georgia, they were used normally. What does it have to do with Bukov, however, Ukrainian, maybe unmodernized.


                    With these losses of ours, do you consider this ... "used normally"? belay

                    Quote: alicante11
                    There is information that was used as an electronic warfare Su-34


                    Something must be ... "write" and "sound" wink

                    Quote: alicante11
                    By IL-22pp


                    Solid "positive" wassat ..if in Russian .. then driving over the ears ".. no more.
                    masalyotik for action in conditions of exceptionally peaceful time. this is time .. secondly there WILL BE (if any) only 5 pieces are two ... the plane is years old ... like me .. this is 3. a maximum of 4 is held in the air e hours in the barrage zone) ... and if there are 2-3 or 3 such zones ... or they will attack us or reveal funds from only one direction wassat
                    And so on and so forth
                    1. alicante11
                      alicante11 April 11 2014 01: 02
                      0
                      With these losses of ours, do you consider this ... "used normally"? belay


                      Well, there were losses at the beginning, when EW aircraft were not used. Then they crushed, and this, apparently, was mainly based on electronic warfare, since, in principle, the Georgian air defense system was preserved. In principle, the links are pretty much information.

                      Continuous "positive" wassat .. if in Russian .. then driving over the ears ".. no more.


                      I think you are not quite right. We do not need as many EW aircraft as the Amers.
                      Our air defense system is built on a principle different from amers. It is built on the basis of air defense systems, aviation plays an auxiliary role of maneuvering forces to strengthen certain directions. It is in these areas that EW funds can be concentrated. Of course, few of whom, I agree. The same is true for front-line strike aircraft. Which can be used in a kind of centralized air operations and the forces conducting these operations just will be given to aviation electronic warfare. Whereas at the tactical level, one will have to rely on ground-based EW systems.
                  2. s1н7т
                    s1н7т April 10 2014 19: 52
                    +2
                    Quote: alicante11
                    here is the "patrimony" of the IBA

                    And what, a lot of IBA as part of the Air Force / Air Defense of the Russian Federation? laughing
                    Something seems to me that the IBA has remained in the distant USSR sad
                    1. alicante11
                      alicante11 April 11 2014 01: 12
                      0
                      Let's define the terms. IBA - Destructive Bomber Aviation. That is, as I understand it, these are fighter-bombers working in the air and, partially, on the ground. Now all fighters have the option of working on the ground. Not to the extent that special attack aircraft, but they have. Therefore, the IBA can be attributed to all the fighter aircraft of the Russian Air Force, which is fighting in the air and striking the ground in the front line. Including and front-line bombers if they are working on the front line.
                      As I understand this term. If I do not understand correctly, correct it.
                      FBA - Frontline Bomber Aviation - operating in the operational depths of an enemy battle formation. It is really difficult for her to use EW helicopters, which over the front edge of the enemy will fall under the fire of MANPADS and short-range air defense systems, however, for her there are airborne electronic warfare systems. Which, of course, are not many, which I wrote about above and how they can be used. As for the strategists, I do not think that the Americans will be able to cover their strategists with EW aircraft, which have a shorter range. Whereas refueling in the air during wartime in the presence of combat-ready aircraft, especially interceptors and AWACS aircraft, which can detect tankers and direct interceptors on them, is a very problematic operation.
                      1. s1н7т
                        s1н7т April 11 2014 07: 59
                        +1
                        Quote: alicante11
                        Let's define the terms. IBA - Destructive Bomber Aviation

                        IBA as a separate (and very specific) kind of front-line aviation is absent in the Russian Air Force / Air Defense 25 years, probably. And what is determined here? The ability of an individual aircraft to once perform one of the tasks of the IBA cannot replace the capabilities of the entire aviation industry, I think. Another question is whether an IBA is needed at all, but I'm not a pilot, I don’t know. Although when I served in the Air Force, I was very impressed with the Su-17M3, M4 — they could use special items, intercept, conduct air combat, strike at both group and single targets from the front line and to great depths. Without re-equipment, with regular, so to speak, weapons.
                      2. alicante11
                        alicante11 April 11 2014 08: 08
                        0
                        Well then, your comment, in principle, is not related to the discussion. Since it is discussed precisely the possibility of covering the electronic warfare helicopter systems with the actions of aviation (any) in the tactical depth of enemy construction, which corresponds to the actions of the ISA. And it’s not at all a discussion of the presence or absence of ISA, as a separate kind of front-line aviation. If you simply expressed your negative attitude towards the absence of ISA in the modern Air Force, then I should not have, in principle, developed this topic, which is offtopic.
      2. snifer
        snifer April 11 2014 02: 00
        0
        I've also thought about this subject, we need to buy the Yak-130 as much as possible (not an expensive good plane)
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    6. dmitrij.blyuz
      dmitrij.blyuz April 10 2014 11: 25
      +1
      New contract for 48 cars? Very good. It would be better if it were 480. It’s sensible.
      1. just exp
        just exp April 10 2014 13: 06
        +5
        480 better than the T-50 was.
    7. VAF
      VAF April 10 2014 15: 22
      +1
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      They will become basic when hundreds of them are in service.


      Sanya ... BEAUTIFUL! drinks .. already HUSBAND's speech !!! soldier
  2. INVESTOR
    INVESTOR April 10 2014 10: 14
    +4
    What does it mean "if the GPS turns off" ????
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov April 10 2014 10: 18
      +55
      GPS toy is not ours and we are not playing it

      And about the lamentation that is not enough - remember, the cost of one such fighter is equal to the annual budget for the defense of one Central European country.

      We also launch submarines, build dozens of helicopters, and update the Strategic Rocket Forces at the Stakhanov pace.

      Yesterday, a 30 contract was concluded with a Ka-52 tail on the Mistral.
      Mi-28N is already about 80 pieces in the army.
      Su-34 I have no clue about the exact figure - but the technique goes

      Where are few? What are you talking about? Lift the site’s archive in the 2000s (if it already existed), then the military personnel had about 16, no one saw the new equipment, the old one didn’t go and they didn’t believe in the army anymore.

      Stupidly there was no fuel. Just like now (censorship) ...

      And now you see little of them) Conveyor connoisseurs (censorship)
      1. Russ69
        Russ69 April 10 2014 10: 29
        +10
        Quote: s-t Petrov
        And now you see little of them)

        Appetite comes with eating .... smile
        1. Semen Semyonitch
          Semen Semyonitch April 10 2014 19: 41
          0
          Quote: Russ69
          Appetite comes with eating ....


          ... appetite comes after eating laughing
      2. Manul
        Manul April 10 2014 11: 30
        +5
        Quote: s-t Petrov
        And now you see little of them) Conveyor connoisseurs pliat)

        good Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye!
      3. Anton Gavrilov
        Anton Gavrilov April 10 2014 14: 36
        +2
        Mi-28 73 pieces or so.
        Ka-52 65 pieces.
        Su-34 39 production samples.
        1. s1н7т
          s1н7т April 10 2014 20: 08
          +1
          Quote: Anton Gavrilov
          Mi-28 73 pieces or so.
          Ka-52 65 pieces.

          To the whole country? I remember that in the neighboring ODShBr (one of ...) there were 3 helicopter regiments (about 130 pieces), one of which was on the Mi-24. Then, damn it, we were respected all over the world! And now we have a sea of ​​oligarchs and 140 new helicopters? I see no reason for pride.
          1. Su24
            Su24 April 10 2014 20: 56
            0
            Quote: c1n7
            Quote: Anton Gavrilov
            Mi-28 73 pieces or so.
            Ka-52 65 pieces.

            To the whole country? I remember that in the neighboring ODShBr (one of ...) there were 3 helicopter regiments (about 130 pieces), one of which was on the Mi-24. Then, damn it, we were respected all over the world! And now we have a sea of ​​oligarchs and 140 new helicopters? I see no reason for pride.



            Do not understand. The brigade consists of 3 (three) helicopter regiments? What is it like? After all, the brigade consists of battalions. And how many then personnel in such a brigade? Like in two divisions?
      4. patsantre
        patsantre April 10 2014 18: 36
        +1
        Quote: s-t Petrov
        And about the lamentation that is not enough - remember, the cost of one such fighter is equal to the annual budget for the defense of one Central European country.


        This, as I understand it, is exaggerated?

        Quote: s-t Petrov
        Where are few? What are you talking about? Lift the site’s archive in the 2000s (if it already existed), then the military personnel had about 16,


        Then the bread was sold for 8 rubles ...)
        1. Su24
          Su24 April 10 2014 20: 58
          0
          Well, now there’s 16 bread, and the lieutenants’s RF is still at least 40 thousand.
        2. St Petrov
          St Petrov April 11 2014 11: 02
          0
          yesterday bought bread for 9 rubles in Dixie
          1. patsantre
            patsantre April 11 2014 16: 00
            0
            In Samara I buy for 20-32.
            1. alicante11
              alicante11 April 11 2014 17: 14
              0
              27 Khabarovsk
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      5. Su24
        Su24 April 10 2014 20: 52
        0
        Quote: s-t Petrov
        And about the lamentation that is not enough - remember, the cost of one such fighter is equal to the annual budget for the defense of one Central European country.


        Well, after all, it should be noted that the cost of the Su-35 is $ 30-40 million. And the military budget, for example Poland, is approx. 12 billion dollars of Spain ~ 25 lard. And even Denmark has about 4-5 lards.
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    3. serega.fedotov
      serega.fedotov April 10 2014 10: 26
      +15
      Quote: INVESTOR
      What does it mean "if the GPS turns off" ????

      In Chechnya, GPS gave such a large error that it could not be an accidental malfunction!
      At the same time, I heard that the militants had an amendment formula that, by the way, was regularly changing!
      1. s1н7т
        s1н7т April 10 2014 20: 11
        +1
        Quote: serega.fedotov
        In Chechnya, GPS gave such a large error that it could not be an accidental malfunction!

        And in the 80s, there was no GPS on the Su-17m3,4, but there was navigation. Maybe it's not about the "conservatory"? laughing
    4. silver_roman
      silver_roman April 10 2014 12: 13
      +7
      in the events of 08.08.08 they tell us that the GPS was blocked. Therefore, then Glonass began to develop hastily. Well, there is such an opinion ...
    5. inkass_98
      inkass_98 April 10 2014 13: 33
      +3
      Quote: INVESTOR
      What does it mean "if the GPS turns off" ????

      When NASA clicks the button at the Pentagon’s direction, it will go out, as it was in Iraq. Because the system is American.
    6. NPogZ
      NPogZ April 10 2014 14: 16
      +2
      As a sanction, it is planned to disconnect Russia from the ZhPS
    7. NPogZ
      NPogZ April 10 2014 14: 17
      0
      And on GLONASS ...
    8. VAF
      VAF April 10 2014 15: 34
      +7
      Quote: INVESTOR
      What does it mean "if the GPS turns off" ????


      This is a question not in the eyebrow, but in the eye ... only it was necessary to put it differently - "... but how did we fly without the GBC wassat and any RTS and near and far wassat
      Just another article in style " fellow "written fool

      Quote from the article ".. The Su-35S has a navigation system that autonomously determines the aircraft's location and parameters of its movement in the absence of satellite navigation and communication with ground services. That is, if GPS or GLONASS is turned off, the fighter will not get lost."

      1. there is satellite navigation. And there is a correction of the navigation system ..... two different things.
      2. Any inertial a priori considers and always considered on its own and only if necessary, correction due to the identification of errors in clearing (discrepancies) that go beyond the necessary for the successful execution of certain operating modes .. correction was performed by GPS, by ADNS, by RSBN, according to the RLO, according to VO.

      When the "pocket Garmins" appeared. Of course they made life much easier ... especially in the mountains. but ... they did the same without them and .. "did not fornicate" wassat
  3. avg
    avg April 10 2014 10: 21
    +2
    They can’t do it now. Non-technical non-personnel capabilities do not yet allow. They will start to drive, there will be a marriage. The main thing is that recovery is underway.
    1. Coffee_time
      Coffee_time April 10 2014 10: 38
      0
      And it can revive the project su47 golden eagle with the reverse sweep of the wing. Very good devices, personally saw him
      1. Berxen
        Berxen April 10 2014 12: 04
        +5
        Quote: Coffee_time
        And it can revive the project su47 golden eagle with the reverse sweep of the wing. Very good devices, personally saw him


        Golden eagle is good as a technology demonstrator. In operation, the wing of the reverse sweep is very expensive.
      2. silver_roman
        silver_roman April 10 2014 12: 17
        +6
        Su-47 seemed to be just fine at close range, i.e. possessed maneuverability crazy. If I am not mistaken. Now there are other principles of air combat. The one who earlier finds out and who has a longer-range missile, he won.
        That golden eagle still does not have STELS technologies essential in design. The T-50 looks much more promising. IMHO
      3. PROXOR
        PROXOR April 10 2014 12: 33
        +6
        Not really.
        SU47 has a problem of air turbulence in the places of attachment of the wing to the fuselage. The air flow coming down due to the sweep of the wing arranges a swirl, which negatively affects the fuselage.
      4. patsantre
        patsantre April 10 2014 18: 39
        0
        Can not. What is the point of it at all? T-50 is much more perfect and at a much later stage of readiness.
  4. yanus
    yanus April 10 2014 11: 04
    +6
    Quote: TAMERLAN 7
    By 2015, the Air Force will receive 48 Su-35S.
    Why so few! Need more! The situation is this, but they are barely moving! Over there, the United States recently rattled their bones, they say the Russians are only bluffing, but there is no real power (they forgot that our real and main strength is ICBMs). It is necessary to increase !!!

    Nefig yourself a little. 48 fighters of the same type per year! This is more than most countries.
    Do not forget that we and in addition to the army have many problems that need to be addressed.
    1. silver_roman
      silver_roman April 10 2014 12: 18
      +6
      Quote: yanus
      . 48 fighters of the same type per year!

      not for a year, but for 3. the contract seems to be signed in 2012. they will close it in 2015.
    2. TAMERLAN 7
      TAMERLAN 7 April 10 2014 12: 19
      +11
      Quote: yanus
      that we and besides the army have many problems that need to be addressed.

      It seems to me that I certainly do not want to croak, but the army is now becoming an urgent problem No. 1! And until everything else is solved - problem No. 2, if Russia does not want to find itself in the situation of another victim of the West. It is not known what kind of change will be in the GDP, do you think Russia will not want to plant pro-Western goblins? Think you a blowjob test for lice pro-Western? While the government in power needs to be in time much ...
      1. dimon-media
        dimon-media April 10 2014 17: 44
        +6
        Quote: TAMERLAN 7
        While the government in power needs to be in time much ...

        I think that GDP already"drags on" its reliable and proven successor. HE understands that everything that he has done for the country during his reign is not worth a penny and everything will go to dust if someone from the fifth column comes to power.
        PS Ideally, V.V. Keep Putin at the head of state for life. For as much as his strength and health are enough. God grant this to him.
        1. yakudza39
          yakudza39 April 11 2014 01: 36
          0
          I support at 100% for life let him rule, well, at least while he is sane repeat
      2. patsantre
        patsantre April 10 2014 18: 40
        0
        Unfortunately, this replacement can steal all the work of the predecessor ... again.
      3. yakudza39
        yakudza39 April 11 2014 01: 35
        +1
        I think GDP should be left for a long time, if not forever repeat good These hypocrites from the West will not swallow us with him angry He is generally a young man, trying to withstand such forces! soldier In one word, beautiful! bully
  5. Pilat2009
    Pilat2009 April 10 2014 11: 13
    +1
    Quote: TAMERLAN 7
    Why so few! Need more!

    So many factories can do. To build, it’s doubtful, people need to be recruited and trained. Or do you want to make 500 pieces in a couple of years and then close the production?
    1. TAMERLAN 7
      TAMERLAN 7 April 10 2014 12: 12
      +7
      Quote: Pilat2009
      So many factories can do. To build, it’s doubtful, people need to be recruited and trained. Or do you want to make 500 pieces in a couple of years and then close the production?
      I would like the equipment to go in normal mode when a new equipment replaces the old one. When the concept of future tactics is scientifically thought out and samples of military equipment are created for it, and not when they try to create tactics using the received technology. At first, everything is scrapped, we destroy everything to the ground, we write off planes, ships, equipment, we don’t develop or build anything, then we start riveting the screen out of the mad ones from anything. Do you think someone like this motley company? So what to do? Now you need the potential! We have lost time! The 4th generation aircraft is still inferior to the inconspicuous 5th generation aircraft and the Su-35 cannot be compared with the T-50. I would prefer the gradual replacement of 4th generation aircraft with 5th aircraft, but we have too few 4th generation aircraft! And now they are very necessary!
      1. leon-iv
        leon-iv April 10 2014 12: 15
        +5
        When the concept of future tactics is scientifically thought out and samples of military equipment are created for it, and not when they try to create tactics using the received technology.

        Hand litzo. Design Bureau ALWAYS based on the wishes of the customer.
        The 4th generation aircraft is still inferior to the inconspicuous 5th generation aircraft and the Su-35 cannot be compared with the T-50.

        As a tactical element of the battle is not strong. 1 on 1 likely.
      2. PROXOR
        PROXOR April 10 2014 12: 38
        +1
        Quote: TAMERLAN 7
        I would like the equipment to go in normal mode when a new equipment replaces the old one. When the concept of future tactics is scientifically thought out and samples of military equipment are created for it, and not when they try to create tactics using the received technology. At first, everything is scrapped, we destroy everything to the ground, we write off planes, ships, equipment, we don’t develop or build anything, then we start riveting the screen out of the mad ones from anything. Do you think someone like this motley company? So what to do? Now you need the potential! We have lost time! The 4th generation aircraft is still inferior to the inconspicuous 5th generation aircraft and the Su-35 cannot be compared with the T-50. I would prefer the gradual replacement of 4th generation aircraft with 5th aircraft, but we have too few 4th generation aircraft! And now they are very necessary!

        No, of course it’s super to have a fleet of 500 T-50s. But excuse me why? The only enemy has only 150 such aircraft. We need about 100. SU-35C is a 4 ++ generation. And in case of war with this enemy, they will work in tandem with the same T-50s and A-50s. And all this invisibility of the enemy will not be leveled.
        1. TAMERLAN 7
          TAMERLAN 7 April 10 2014 13: 02
          +2
          Quote: PROXOR
          And in case of war with this enemy, they will work in tandem with the same T-50s and A-50s. And all this invisibility of the enemy will not be leveled.

          The fifth generation with its technology has changed the principle of war. The technology will allow a 5th generation aircraft to go unnoticed, launch missiles to a 4th generation aircraft, launch rockets and hide and go unnoticed. Yes, on the Su-35 there is a powerful radar capable of detecting a 4th generation aircraft at 400km, and a 5th aircraft at 90km and if they can attack with a conventional fighter with long-range missiles, then a 5th generation aircraft can attack them from 100-200 km without entering the detection zone. At the same time, they will not see the T-50, but the Su-35 will be in full view! If the Su-35 could detect them at 300km, then they would turn into whipping boys. Their 50th generation aircraft will also be helpless in front of the T-4. A qualitative leap has taken place and 4th generation aircraft have become morally outdated, they are an anachronism and the past!
          1. leon-iv
            leon-iv April 10 2014 13: 10
            +5
            if they can attack a conventional fighter with long-range missiles, then a 5th generation aircraft can attack them from 100-200 km without entering the detection zone.

            Oh, these tales, the types of rockets in the studio, as well as typical targets at such ranges
            A qualitative leap has taken place and 4th generation aircraft have become morally outdated, they are an anachronism and the past!

            You should work as a preacher.
            Nifiga, they are not outdated (well, if you say so, you need to specify by what parameters) and are suitable for their tasks.
            1. TAMERLAN 7
              TAMERLAN 7 April 10 2014 13: 58
              +2
              Quote: leon-iv
              Oh, these tales, the types of rockets in the studio, as well as typical targets at such ranges
              Quote: leon-iv
              You should work as a preacher.
              Fairy tales? A preacher? The range of modern missiles exceeds the detection range of modern stealth radars. USA: AIM-120C-7 maximum range up to 120km, develop AIM-120D maximum range up to 180km, Russia: K-37 up to 304km, as well as RVV-DB about 300km. This is more than the maximum detection range of 90km, for the purpose with an ESR of 0,01 m2 even for such a powerful radar as the N035 Irbis mounted on the Su-35S, and western 4th-generation fighters will detect a T-50 attack when it is too late for them. Or do you want to say that the F-15, F-16 and F-18 will fill up on equal T-50 ??? belay
              Quote: leon-iv
              Nifiga, they are not outdated (well, if you say so, you need to specify by what parameters) and are suitable for their tasks.

              The fighter has one task - gaining dominance in the air, everything else - bonuses! To gain dominance in the air, you need to destroy the enemy before the enemy destroys you. Means: first saw, first shot down! The chances of a 5th generation aircraft (T-50 and F-22, F-35, etc.) to fail the 4th generation aircraft are incomparably higher than that of this aircraft to fill them, THIS is obvious! Generation difference! Surprised that you deny it! It's about generations of planes, not about the planes of the United States and Russia!
              1. leon-iv
                leon-iv April 10 2014 14: 19
                +3
                Learn mat part
                USA: AIM-120C-7 maximum range up to 120km, develop AIM-120D maximum range up to 180km,

                This range from a maximum height on a flying target is linearly uniformly accelerated without maneuvers.
                With a fighter, this does not work from the word well, in general.
                Russia: K-37 up to 304 km, as well as RVV-DB about 300 km.

                These are toys for interceptors when hunting for bombers, AWACS, tankers. Software to destroy such a bullet is the height of wastefulness.
                it is more than the maximum detection range of 90km, for a target with an EPR of 0,01m2

                From what angle wink
                and western 4th generation fighters will discover the T-50 attack when it will be too late for them.

                Did the AWAC gobble?
                . Or do you want to say that the F-15, F-16 and F-18 will fill up on equal T-50 ??? belay

                When the competent work of all elements of the battlefield is quite, like our SU and MIG against them.
                . Means: first saw, first shot down!

                How will he see him? wink
                1. TAMERLAN 7
                  TAMERLAN 7 April 10 2014 15: 06
                  +2
                  Quote: leon-iv
                  This range from a maximum height on a flying target is linearly uniformly accelerated without maneuvers.
                  So after all, the maximum detection range of radar targets with low EPR is not given in combat conditions! Do not you think that in real conditions the detection range will be less ??? And it is necessary to compare equally. If you have the correct data - share it, I will be happy to learn from you! hi laughing
                  Quote: leon-iv
                  These are toys for interceptors when hunting for bombers, AWACS, tankers. Software to destroy such a bullet top wastefulness

                  I just said that there are missiles that can shoot down targets at such a distance! The same RVV-SD and R-27 have a range of up to 110km. The upward trend has been and will be.
                  Quote: leon-iv
                  From what angle

                  On the way, so what? EPR 3 m2 up to 400 km, 1 m2 up to 300 km, 0.5 m2 up to 240 km, 0.1 m2 up to 165 km, 0.01 m2 up to 90 km.
                  Quote: leon-iv
                  Did the AWAC gobble?
                  E-3Bs have an improved AN / APY-2 radar with a 4PiCC-2 onboard computer, it is stated that after upgrading the receiving part of the locator, the latter will be able to detect objects with an RCS of 1 square meter at a distance of up to 425 km. А-50 (EPR = 1 m²): 215 km! I have no data on EPR 0,01m2, but not much further than Irbis. If we consider that the AWACS glows and can be shot down by long-range missiles and from a 4th generation aircraft, and it is not patrolling at the front line, then ... No.
                  Quote: leon-iv
                  When the competent work of all elements of the battlefield is quite

                  And we then boobies spend so much money on the stupid 5th generation !!! Why do we need then the T-50 if we already throw all the hats ??? fellow
                  Quote: leon-iv
                  How will he see him?

                  Quote: leon-iv
                  Learn mat part
                  Themselves answered! hi
                  1. sivuch
                    sivuch April 10 2014 15: 56
                    +2
                    So after all, the maximum detection range of radar targets with low EPR is not given in combat conditions!
                    -------------------------------
                    Not necessarily. I already wrote that there have been cases, and it’s not uncommon when targets were found at ranges greater than passport ones. That is, a range of 100 km under the indicated conditions (there should be a long list) the radar should provide, and more like a map will lie. But in general, let VAF correct me better.
                    In addition, we again rest against the question of the real EPR of the rector and penguin. This such holivar can rise
                  2. patsantre
                    patsantre April 10 2014 18: 45
                    +1
                    Quote: TAMERLAN 7
                    On the way, so what? EPR 3 m2 up to 400 km, 1 m2 up to 300 km, 0.5 m2 up to 240 km, 0.1 m2 up to 165 km, 0.01 m2 up to 90 km


                    This is the data at a scan angle, if not mistaken, of 10 degrees. In general, to compare on an equal footing, you need to take other numbers that are significantly less.
                    1. TAMERLAN 7
                      TAMERLAN 7 April 11 2014 10: 09
                      0
                      Quote: patsantre
                      This is the data at a scan angle, if not mistaken, of 10 degrees. In general, to compare on an equal footing, you need to take other numbers that are significantly less.
                      Absolutely right. To be absolutely precise, here are the data on the Irbis radar:
                      - targets with an EPR of 3 square meters on the opposite courses - 350-400 km (in the field of view 10 x 10 degrees)
                      - targets with an EPR of 3 square meters on the opposite courses - 200 km (in the field of view 17,3 x 17,3 degrees = 300 sq. degrees)
                      - targets with an EPR of 3 square meters on the opposite courses against the background of the earth - 170 km (in the field of view 17,3 x 17,3 degrees = 300 sq. degrees)
                      - targets with an EPR of 3 sq. m at catch-up courses - 80 km (in the field of view 17,3 x 17,3 degrees = 300 sq. degrees)
                      - targets with an EPR of 3 square meters at catch-up courses on the background of the earth - 50 km (in the field of view 17,3 x 17,3 degrees = 300 sq. degrees)
                      - targets with EPR 1 sq. m - up to 300 km
                      - targets with EPR 0,5 sq. m - up to 240 km
                      - targets with EPR 0,1 sq. m - up to 165 km
                      - targets with EPR 0,01 sq. m - up to 90 km
                      Actual data on both missiles and radar will be significantly lower. Unfortunately, I do not have real data, and many of our products have to be evaluated according to export modifications, the indicators of which differ from domestic ones.
              2. sivuch
                sivuch April 10 2014 14: 27
                +8
                You see, all these numbers of launch ranges without a very detailed listing of conditions are nothing more than a filkin letter. Usually (unless indicated separately) we mean that the carrier and the target are in opposite courses with a zero parameter, with super speeds and at high altitudes. The target does not maneuver and does not interfere. And it is understood that there are no problems with identification. (The last friendly helicopter, NYA, the Americans shot down in 1993, and General Alekseev in his Afghan memoirs recalled that he nearly shot down his Su-17). So the real range will be 3-4 times less.
                The launch of the UR by itself unmasks the carrier. Yet in Vietnam, when launching the PRR, separation of targets was observed, and then the flaps opened. The ur has a far from zero IR signature, especially when the starting engine (the dual-mode engine itself) is working. Yes and the fairing heats slightly. it is no coincidence that all the latter types are equipped with IR stations for detecting approaching missiles. Yes, and a well-defined EPR for the missile is also available.
                In the same way, the detection ranges of radars are the same probability numbers. In which solid angle, with what probability, by which EPR (real, not paper)? In some cases, radars, even those ancient like Sapphire-MLA, issued ranges greater than the passport, and it happened the other way around.
                This is to say that stealth, of course, gives a great advantage, but it’s also impossible to say that they succeed.
                And I would so far, for several years, would have counted not on the T-50 - when it was still brought, but on the fact that it would be necessary to fight (if, God forbid, it will be) in its own half of the field. , in its own radar field, with its own RTR stations, say, Valeria, with its ground and other electronic warfare stations, to spoil the life of the adversary, etc.
          2. PROXOR
            PROXOR April 10 2014 14: 46
            +3
            Quote: TAMERLAN 7
            The fifth generation with its technology has changed the principle of war. The technology will allow a 5th generation aircraft to go unnoticed, launch missiles to a 4th generation aircraft, launch rockets and hide and go unnoticed. Yes, on the Su-35 there is a powerful radar capable of detecting a 4th generation aircraft at 400km, and a 5th aircraft at 90km and if they can attack with a conventional fighter with long-range missiles, then a 5th generation aircraft can attack them from 100-200 km without entering the detection zone. At the same time, they will not see the T-50, but the Su-35 will be in full view! If the Su-35 could detect them at 300km, then they would turn into whipping boys. Their 50th generation aircraft will also be helpless in front of the T-4. A qualitative leap has taken place and 4th generation aircraft have become morally outdated, they are an anachronism and the past!

            And here I think the tactics of using fighters are being developed. First, let me remind you that AWACS aircraft will have a more powerful radar than even the T-50. In the second, no one bothers to let the first echelon of the T-50, and keep the more armed SU-35s behind at just 100-120 km. By the time the F-22 sees the first SU-35s, the T-50 will be gone, and it will be back to back. And I will note one more thing. F-22 in passive search mode is not so "big-eyed".
            SU-35 in this bundle acts as a carrier of powerful, long-range air-to-air missiles. T-50 is reconnaissance in battle. Well, by the time the SU-35 enters the battle, the MiGi-31e will arrive and they will already have 3-4 R-33 missiles suspended. The mattress will be able to cope with us only by number. But here is the question of the tactics of reconciliation. No one bothers to set up air defense systems quietly in the battle zone. And do not turn on their radars until all the aircraft are in full view. And when the mess begins the second and third echelon is cut off by the air defense system. In any case, the slaughter will be still that.
            1. TAMERLAN 7
              TAMERLAN 7 April 10 2014 15: 25
              +1
              Quote: PROXOR
              And here, I think, the tactics of reconciling fighters are being developed. First, let me remind you that the DRLO aircraft will have more powerful radar than even the T-50. In the second, no one bothers to launch the first echelon of the T-50, and to keep the more armed SU-35 behind just the same at 100-120km.

              Of course, with skillful tactics, it is quite possible to successfully apply the 4th generation. After all, the United States also did not acquire a continuous fleet of invisibles. Your tactics may well be successful! I think it is close to real!
              As one friend of mine put it: "If the Aurora were 100 meters from the Zumwald, it is still unknown who would have won?" But this does not mean that "Aurora" is equivalent to "Zumwalt"! laughing
      3. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 April 10 2014 14: 02
        +1
        Quote: TAMERLAN 7
        but we and 4th generation aircraft are too few

        so you tell me how to do it. see post above
        Quote: TAMERLAN 7
        At first everything is scrapped, we destroy everything to the ground

        true, but these are the fruits of the reformers of the 90s who wanted to be friends and live peacefully with everyone. For example, today, the troops of Ukraine
        Quote: TAMERLAN 7
        new technology replaces the old.

        until 27 have exhausted their resources, let them fly — first, pilots need to train, and secondly, it’s too bold to renew the fleet every 15 years
  6. xbhxbr-777
    xbhxbr-777 April 10 2014 11: 48
    0
    Very correct! It is necessary to increase! angry
    1. Coffee_time
      Coffee_time April 10 2014 11: 49
      0
      Official page "SOUTH FRONT"
      Today in 11: 43
      CROSS !!!! ANXIETY! DONETSK.
      Negotiations at the police department have just ended. Gave 2 hours to pass
      weapons, otherwise there will be an assault !!!
      EVERYTHING ON ODE!
      (Donbass donated by radio) Don’t sound the alarm, ring the bells, call the TV! Request repost !!!
  7. Rusin Dima
    Rusin Dima April 10 2014 13: 18
    -1
    This is not a plane, but a whole range of weapons for this, and 48 pieces can make such a rustle
  8. Cherdak
    Cherdak April 10 2014 13: 33
    +4
    Quote: TAMERLAN 7
    Why so few! Need more! The situation is this, but they are barely moving!

    It is curious enough to get acquainted with the expert opinion:

    Guilty without guilt
    Oleg Matveychev, political strategist

    Given:

    1. Recent events in Crimea, sudden exercises, etc., have shown that Russia has an army, is well armed, equipped, and trained. By the way, the events in South Ossetia confirmed the same thing. Even living conditions seem to Ukrainians just a fairy tale.
    2. Again, the latest actions of the authorities (in the broadest sense of the word) indicate the presence of common sense and logic. As well as the professionalism of the army commanders, who supposedly all "left the army."

    The army is not done for six months, and for the year too. But in the beginning of the zero we had no combat-ready units and there was a complete collapse.

    Conclusion: Serdyukov did no harm, and maybe brought great benefit.

    By the way, of the 15 billion that he allegedly stole, the Ministry of Defense has already recognized that everything was found. And the part turned out to be insignificant in the scale of the army and obviously did not have a direct relationship with Serdyukov personally.

    Or maybe it is worth punishing those representatives of the Investigative Committee who unprofessionally promoted on Serdyukov, made him a demon, discredited all the power in Russia, and then turned out to be unable to prove anything?
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    2. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 April 10 2014 19: 13
      0
      Quote: Cherdak
      By the way, of the 15 billion that he allegedly stole

      So he personally did not steal anything. But the land and objects were sold with fraud. + His brother-in-law was warm
      Quote: Cherdak
      well armed, equipped, trained

      There is no need to paint here on the example of Georgia. The Georgians simply darted to Tbilisi. In essence, there was no verification by war, and God forbid. An example with Ukraine is also not an indicator, Ukrainians simply did not resist and everything is bad in the army
      Only the interaction of all branches of the armed forces and communication with the leadership and neighbors can show real combat effectiveness, otherwise the battalion commander was contacted by cell phone in Ossetia
  9. Su24
    Su24 April 10 2014 20: 33
    -2
    Quote: TAMERLAN 7
    By 2015, the Air Force will receive 48 Su-35S.
    Why so few! Need more! The situation is this, but they are barely moving! Over there, the United States recently rattled their bones, they say the Russians are only bluffing, but there is no real power (they forgot that our real and main strength is ICBMs). It is necessary to increase !!!


    How for .. bali such komenty! Stop drizzling!

    This was reported by the ARMS-TASS news agency with reference to the UAC president Mikhail Pogosyan. According to Pogosyan, this year the corporation will supply the Su-24S fighter aircraft in full serial configuration to the 35 air force. Twelve fighters were transferred to military pilots in early February, and the next twelve will be delivered before the end of the year. In 2015, the transfer of the final 14 aircraft of this type is scheduled. Given the previously delivered four flight test vehicles and six Su-35s transferred in 2012, all 48 fighters will go to the Air Force.


    Well done Poghosyan) Machines of 2013 delivery counted this year)) 24 fighter, damn it))
    I wish military success to our pilots!
  • Wiruz
    Wiruz April 10 2014 09: 46
    +1
    Su-35S will become the main heavy fighters of our Air Force

    The fighter is beautiful, but the number (48 pieces by 2015) is sad. And much
    1. GreatRussia
      GreatRussia April 10 2014 10: 00
      +5
      Quote: Wiruz
      The fighter is beautiful, but the number (48 pieces by 2015) is sad. And much

      Do not be sad...
      Next in line is the SU-50.
      He also needs funds.
      And the funds are not small.
      For example, the SU-34 costs around 1 billion rubles.
      And after 2015, I doubt that additional contracts for the next batches of SU-35 will be concluded.
      1. Bort radist
        Bort radist April 10 2014 10: 12
        +6
        Quote: GreatRussia
        Do not be sad...
        Next in line is the SU-50.

        The Tupolev Design Bureau has completed the design of a promising long-range aviation complex (PAK DA). This, as reported by Jane's, citing a source in the military-industrial complex, said the President of the United Aircraft Corporation Mikhail Pogosyan. In the near future, production of some components for the prototype aircraft is expected to begin.
        The process is going on.
        1. ty60
          ty60 April 10 2014 11: 02
          +1
          It’s high time to prepare the change of Tu22,95 and 160. Existing to carry out modernization. However, the same money.
      2. VeteranS
        VeteranS April 10 2014 11: 26
        +3
        The most important thing is that the supply of the most modern technology to our Armed Forces is systematically going on, because now even those who have seen some kind of partner in the United States (liberals and human rights activists), it is now clear that in the person of the United States and NATO we see an obvious and mortal enemy, and we must prepare carefully and with God's help for a war with these foes. No wonder they say, "If you want peace, prepare for war!"
        God save Russia and holy Russia!
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 10 2014 10: 00
      +8
      Quote: Wiruz
      but the quantity (48 pieces by 2015) is sad.

      Three years ago, new aircraft accounted for units. The contract was signed at 48, for that reason. A new contract will be signed soon.
  • ispaniard
    ispaniard April 10 2014 09: 46
    +11
    It is high time! But in the light of current events we must Accelerate and Accelerate again !!! We have only two allies who will never betray and fail this our Army and Navy.
  • leon17
    leon17 April 10 2014 09: 47
    +6
    Well, at the end, for so many years !!!!!
  • tolyasik0577
    tolyasik0577 April 10 2014 09: 47
    +10
    Clear heaven, Lord.
  • Stiletto
    Stiletto April 10 2014 09: 49
    +6
    To "change the guard" in the sky, you need 300 of them ... For a start.
    1. Patriot.ru.
      Patriot.ru. April 10 2014 09: 56
      +4
      Also, the old DRY is not all that bad.
  • Mozart
    Mozart April 10 2014 09: 49
    +2
    The locator is good, but do we have air-to-air missiles of this range?
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz April 10 2014 09: 56
      +1
      All hope for RVV-DB and RVV-SD
    2. badandrew
      badandrew April 10 2014 12: 59
      0
      Well, with such a range, several aircraft will probably be able to use as a kind of AWACS, for example, for guiding ground-based air defense systems that are in a passive mode
  • dimarm74
    dimarm74 April 10 2014 09: 51
    +3
    Well, the volumes will not immediately increase. Still, the growth is still decent, from year to year. And with the pah ... pah helicopters ... It’s not even bad.
  • Giant thought
    Giant thought April 10 2014 09: 52
    +5
    Good thing we have SU-35. And the presence of such combat capabilities in this aircraft allows it to be on the same line with the best combat aircraft in the world. That would be to increase the speed of entry and the number of aircraft entering the troops. I think that our presence of such aircraft will be a good barrier to the adversary.
  • Alexander-81
    Alexander-81 April 10 2014 09: 53
    +5
    In Kharkov, caught an American in the form of a falcon 10.04.14/XNUMX/XNUMX request LINK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3NgHXZjb9E
  • wizarden
    wizarden April 10 2014 09: 54
    +3
    Normally, they will buy 48 pieces, fly around, reveal shortcomings, then order more already modified one.
    As an example, the Su-34:

    2008 - an order for 32 aircraft
    2012 - an order for 92 aircraft
  • kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya April 10 2014 09: 54
    +1
    "Don't drive horses" colleagues - everything will be and very soon.
  • Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov April 10 2014 09: 56
    +2
    Little of course, but the main thing is that in the serial configuration they started to produce!
  • ler666
    ler666 April 10 2014 09: 57
    -20%
    I do not believe Poghosyan! Like Plushenko.
    1. sivuch
      sivuch April 10 2014 10: 01
      +19
      He probably doesn’t believe you either. But I think he is vitally interested in increasing the output of the Su-35
      1. Ka-52
        Ka-52 April 10 2014 10: 18
        +1
        he is vitally interested

        The economy rules ...
    2. svp67
      svp67 April 10 2014 11: 39
      +1
      Quote: ler666
      I do not believe Poghosyan! Like Plushenko

      Well, everyone has their own opinion, but what do not believe it?
    3. Shoma-1970
      Shoma-1970 April 10 2014 12: 53
      +3
      He, what let you down? laughing
  • aleks 62
    aleks 62 April 10 2014 10: 05
    +1
    Quote: Mozart
    The locator is good, but do we have air-to-air missiles of this range?

    .... Missiles of such a range are rather large in size (for example, c-300) and only very large aircraft can pull them, and not a heavy one. fighter....
    1. Bronis
      Bronis April 10 2014 12: 36
      +1
      Quote: aleks 62
      .... Missiles of such a range are rather large in size (for example, c-300) and only very large aircraft can pull them, and not a heavy one. fighter....

      P-37 - maximum range of about 300 km. There were projects up to 400 km. COP-172.
      A heavy fighter in the wave can carry such missiles, and for this it is needed. MiG-31 and Su-27 confirmation of this.
      The fundamental difference with C-300 missiles is the difference in energy, warhead mass, launch, etc., which determines the difference in dimensions and total weight.
      1. PROXOR
        PROXOR April 10 2014 12: 45
        0
        Quote: Bronis
        There were projects up to 400 km. KS-172

        Why were there. They’re doing it now, they are fine-tuning. I want to note that the dimensions of both the R-33 and KS-172 are such that they will not fit into the bomb bays of 5th generation fighters. The mattresses also have them. They can be carried either by Dryers or by the MiGi-31e.
  • Stasi
    Stasi April 10 2014 10: 06
    +1
    The news is great, I am glad that, although slowly, new equipment and weapons are being supplied to the troops. By the way, even "old" fighters of other modifications, after undergoing modernization, may well serve even before they are replaced with SU-35S and other aircraft. Replace the engine, increase the radar's viewing range, and upgrade the air-to-air missiles - that's all, the "oldies" will show themselves. While our Air Force has to act in this way, modernizing the 4th generation fighters, the 5th generation is late. But I am glad that the situation is beginning to change for the better.
  • With Petrovsky
    With Petrovsky April 10 2014 10: 10
    +1
    As the saying goes: "Keep it up," although I would like more.
  • Al_lexx
    Al_lexx April 10 2014 10: 12
    +1
    Thank you for the good news.
    Article plus.
  • Little Muck
    Little Muck April 10 2014 10: 14
    +2
    Well, thank you! More, and more often, such news.
    Still about our fleet, a rapidly growing read, and generally LEPOT.
  • Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 10 2014 10: 19
    +3
    Some kind of strange article.
    A new contract is being prepared for the supply to the Armed Forces of the newest super destroyers. By 2015, the Air Force will get 48 Su-35C.

    Sukhoi had a contract for 48 Su-35С before 2015? It was, it seems that 34 cars were already installed on it. Is there a new contract? No, just about to sign. And it is written as if, in addition to the current contract for 48 dryers to 2015, they are going to sign another one
  • alex56
    alex56 April 10 2014 10: 21
    +3
    The news is wonderful !!
    But how would you like such news to come from other design bureaus.
    Especially MiG)))) 35 I can not wait !! Maybe someone knows the progress? It seems they promised to conclude a contract for 29? But there is no news (((
    1. arutun
      arutun April 10 2014 10: 55
      +6
      I agree, a heavy aircraft is needed, but also a light, inexpensive modern fighter to gain superiority in the air, oh, how you need it.
      In Soviet times, the ratio of the MiG-29 and Su-27 was 2: 1; now the Su family is mainly purchased. I would like to see in the ranks and a new light fighter.
      1. cucun
        cucun April 10 2014 11: 48
        +4
        I agree completely. While Poghosyan steers, priority will be for Su. MiG feel sorry, excellent and not very good. expensive car....
        1. PROXOR
          PROXOR April 10 2014 12: 49
          +1
          Quote: cucun
          MiG feel sorry, excellent and not very good. expensive car....

          There will be a MIG holiday. For the Navy they will take the Migi to Kuzya. And on promising aircraft carriers MIGs will take.
  • GAndr
    GAndr April 10 2014 10: 21
    +9
    Do not rush, order exactly as much as our industry can really handle now. What is the use of ordering 500 immediately if they are not realistic? Moreover, the contract is limited in time. They calculated how much time to really do in this time, and ordered so much. Remember a couple of years ago, airplanes in units a year were delivered to the army and every new airplane, in the army, it was just a holiday. And now they are supplying dozens and are not happy. Yes, you dear snickered ... laughing
    Everything goes according to plan - "we will quietly descend from the mountain ..."
  • Vtel
    Vtel April 10 2014 10: 23
    +1
    I am glad that electronics is beginning to replace pressure gauges and levers. The bird turned out good and can not bite sickly - Thank God!
  • KAPITANUS
    KAPITANUS April 10 2014 10: 29
    -1
    Here Russia will rearm and carry out an operation - AT FORCING THE USA TO THE WORLD! The whole WORLD is waiting for the start of this operation.
  • ken
    ken April 10 2014 10: 32
    +9
    The fact that there are few new aircraft now is a matter of time. Over time, we will have a large, and most importantly, a new air fleet. In the meantime .....
  • Nevyatoy
    Nevyatoy April 10 2014 10: 37
    +1
    And what about the west against the SU-35S? What vehicles on TTX are his equal rivals and how many of them?
    1. wizarden
      wizarden April 10 2014 13: 48
      +3
      Today, the Su-35S is objectively the best representative of 4th generation fighters. Only the American decker F / A-18 Super Hornet can compete with him, and even then he lags behind him in almost all respects. True, just recently a new version of Advanced Super Hornet was introduced, so far little is known about it.
      The Americans are now armed with a 500 F / A-18 Super Hornet.
      1. PROXOR
        PROXOR April 10 2014 14: 52
        +3
        Quote: wizarden
        Today, the Su-35S is objectively the best representative of 4th generation fighters. Only the American decker F / A-18 Super Hornet can compete with him, and even then he lags behind him in almost all respects. However, just recently a new version of Advanced Super Hornet was introduced, little is known about it. Americans are currently armed with 500 F / A-18 Super Hornet.

        The F / A-18 Super Hornet is a ground bombing machine. Against the SU-35S in an air battle, he has a chance of zero point hell. The F / A-18 Super Hornet glider remained the same and it is visible on CE-35C radars like a tree with a garland in a dark night forest, and given that the Matrasnikov have no missiles with a launch range of 300 km, the SU-35C will be noticed earlier and will fire earlier.
        1. Hairy Siberian
          Hairy Siberian April 10 2014 16: 19
          +1
          Quote: PROXOR
          And what about the west against the SU-35S? What vehicles on TTX are his equal rivals and how many of them?

          Probably the F-35SE Silent Eagle is more suitable for comparison with the Su-15. Also a very serious device.
          1. PROXOR
            PROXOR April 10 2014 16: 28
            +2
            Quote: Hairy Siberian
            Probably the F-35SE Silent Eagle is more suitable for comparison with the Su-15. Also a very serious device.

            Yes, I agree. Before engaging in close combat, they are on an equal footing. Both have AFAR, the aviation is about the same, the only one for the F-15SE Silent Eagle is the pilot's helmet-mounted guidance system, which has already been pushed onto the F-35. But as soon as the fight moves to the "ground" the F-15SE Silent Eagle will immediately deflate. The SU-35S is more thrust-rated and has engines with a deflected thrust vector. In a 2v2 fight, both F-15SE Silent Eagles will lose completely.
            1. patsantre
              patsantre April 10 2014 20: 28
              0
              Bullshit city. There is no AFAR on the Su-35, it has a PFAR, but the radar is more powerful. In the silent needle, moreover, stealth technologies are applied more. Perhaps this partially compensates for the lack of radar power. At the same time, amers have longer-range medium-range missiles. And there is already a bunch of nuances, it is very difficult to predict who is stronger in the Far East. But in BVB ours will mark them out.
          2. patsantre
            patsantre April 10 2014 20: 24
            +1
            It seems to me weaker in aerial combat, but abruptly in strike operations.
        2. patsantre
          patsantre April 10 2014 18: 59
          +1
          I agree in general, the F-18 has no chance against the Su-35 either at short range or at long range.
          Quote: PROXOR
          and given that Matrasnikov has no missiles with a launch range of 300 km, the SU-35S will both notice earlier and fire earlier.

          But I don’t understand why. Drying also has nothing to answer from such a distance. DB missiles against fighters are ineffective.
          Another thing is that without the hockey F-18 they will not get anywhere. And medium-range missiles they fly farther than ours ... and here R-33 and more modern ones are useful to remove hokai from the sky.
    2. patsantre
      patsantre April 10 2014 18: 55
      0
      F-22. On TTX is not equal, there are advantages and disadvantages. 187 pieces
      F-35. In a dogfight weaker than the 22nd, but also dangerous.
      Well, the latest modifications of the F-15, but they are not available, and I think there will be weaker drying.
  • Vital 33
    Vital 33 April 10 2014 10: 40
    +1
    Why didn't they write "DOES NOT HAVE ANALOGUES IN THE WORLD !!!" ??
  • sazhka4
    sazhka4 April 10 2014 10: 41
    0
    1983 year. Happy Times. Didn't like the panel. Lots of buttons and gestures. BACKGROUNDS. They put such a "tricky device" on the simulator, round with bulbs, "where it was necessary to extinguish the bulbs of a certain color, a certain button fixed on the control handle during the task. I performed" flights "on the simulator, since none of The "flyers" did not pass the test. "The horses are drunk, the lads are harnessed." Question. From what distance should I start to press the buttons. I tried, it does not work .. But I extinguished the bulbs in full program .. They did a "raid" on me .. I . Private. 5000 flight hours .. An incomprehensible symbiosis .. I am just a Soldier .. After passing through the Service, everyone is able to "control" the Strategist ?. Experience what to do? I doubt that it is "right" to use ... Is there something to think about ???
  • kelevra
    kelevra April 10 2014 10: 51
    +1
    Very, very good news!
  • ybrcfy27
    ybrcfy27 April 10 2014 10: 53
    +2
    Earlier, when I saw such news, I had the thought that this is all a lie, but I already believe it
  • Igor75
    Igor75 April 10 2014 10: 57
    +2
    Good news. But annoying is that now there is a bias in the stronon of heavy vehicles. The composition of the Air Force should be balanced.
  • morpogr
    morpogr April 10 2014 11: 07
    +8
    Just a handsome plane.
  • storm wind
    storm wind April 10 2014 11: 08
    +2
    Slowly moving forward .. It really pleases! The road will be overcome by a walker!
  • Cossacks
    Cossacks April 10 2014 11: 20
    -7
    Add two monitors instead of a part of the gauges, this is not a reason to claim for almost 5 generations. When will this Poghosyan - Serdyukov from the aircraft industry get what he deserves. The answer is obvious.
    1. Berxen
      Berxen April 10 2014 12: 31
      +7
      Quote: Cossacks
      Add two monitors instead of a part of the gauges, this is not a reason to claim for almost 5 generations. When will this Poghosyan - Serdyukov from the aircraft industry get what he deserves. The answer is obvious.


      In addition to the IFIs, which appeared before the Su-35, those are the other engines and other avionics. Stop sketching.
      1. Cossacks
        Cossacks April 10 2014 16: 49
        -1
        Forgive generously, stop scribbling - that's what. You can somehow simpler. By God I did not understand. Along the way, I make excuses. I did not want to say anything bad about the plane. But SU-35 with AL-41 engines and with electronics (in part, our Kaluga plant). Poghosyan (probably not himself) tried to hide China and another 9 countries, but to no avail. Paid our combat regiments. It is becoming increasingly difficult to live on loans from the USSR. Sincerely V.Kazakov
        1. Cossacks
          Cossacks April 10 2014 19: 57
          0
          I did not understand your nickname, but I answer again. Not even you, but aviation and Putin lovers. The modernized SU-27 of the last century, although with two pluses, is objectively the last century, which even the countries of the third world have not been led to.
        2. Cossacks
          Cossacks April 10 2014 19: 57
          0
          I did not understand your nickname, but I answer again. Not even you, but aviation and Putin lovers. The modernized SU-27 of the last century, although with two pluses, is objectively the last century, which even the countries of the third world have not been led to.
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  • Cossacks
    Cossacks April 10 2014 11: 22
    -2
    Or to whom it is necessary to explain, otherwise marshals by rating can’t dig into the little things with their hands.
    1. patsantre
      patsantre April 10 2014 19: 00
      +1
      You yourself would have delved into them first.
  • Cossacks
    Cossacks April 10 2014 11: 22
    +2
    Or to whom it is necessary to explain, otherwise marshals by rating can’t dig into the little things with their hands.
  • cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 April 10 2014 11: 25
    0
    Just a wonderful plane. But NATO is afraid of our aircraft. It is not for them to bombard YUGOSLAVIA. They are scared here. Keep it up. drinks soldier
  • luka095
    luka095 April 10 2014 11: 28
    +1
    Good news. The main thing is that everything goes according to schedule and without force majeure.
  • Manul
    Manul April 10 2014 11: 39
    +1
    And do not forget that in addition to buying equipment, you also need to invest money in its maintenance and supply of ammunition. It’s not enough just to put the plane. And to train the pilot, technicians? And the airfield, hangars, spare parts? And most importantly - how much is the weaponry, which is becoming more and more complicated and expensive? And invest in the development of all this miracle? So it’s enough to vote, which’s not enough. Nowadays (do not forget that the country also needs to feed the people), and the breadth of development of our armed forces is an excellent figure!
  • VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN April 10 2014 11: 40
    +1
    BZHRK need to run. It smells like fried. But the SU-35 is also good! good
  • Sinbad
    Sinbad April 10 2014 11: 58
    +4
    Good news! BUT ..., dear, think! After all, the army and its rearmament are, first of all, military and state secrets. What we are discussing is just a public, ostentatious part. Imagine what really happens (just do not talk about it, just imagine).
  • Patriot23
    Patriot23 April 10 2014 12: 06
    0
    "That is, if GPS or GLONASS is turned off, the fighter will not get lost."
    what does GPS do on our plane like American origin .... and domestic glonass
    1. Landwarrior
      Landwarrior April 10 2014 15: 29
      +2
      No big deal. It's just that navigators now go multi-frequency. The more signals, the more accurate the location, no more hi
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  • 62 RUS
    62 RUS April 10 2014 12: 10
    -2
    Why give such numbers? It is necessary to write such that for a long time they could not get off the toilet.
  • KOSMOS
    KOSMOS April 10 2014 12: 30
    +1
    The road will be overcome by a walker! The general picture of the entry of arms and equipment into the army in recent years is encouraging!
  • Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 April 10 2014 12: 35
    +14
    Deliveries of new aircraft and helicopters to the Russian Air Force in 2013:
    -------------------------------------
    Su-35С - 12 pcs.

    Su-34 - 14 pcs. The 47 Su-34 as part of the Air Force is already quite solid, of course the first batch was raw, but on the whole the real rearmament of front-line aviation is on - very happy! Serial 39. Of the other pre-production and experimental, only one of the testers flies in Akhtubinsk. But 14 Su-34 this year is very decent. This year it seems that even 16 is promised, and if they do at least 17, then it will be just PERFECT !!!

    Su-30СМ - 14
    Su-30M2 - 4 pcs.
    MiG-29K - 2 pcs.
    MIG-29 CUBE - 2 pcs.

    Yak-130 - 18 pcs.

    An-148-100Е - 1 pcs.
    An-140-100 - 3 pcs.
    L-410UVP-E20- 3 pcs.
    Tu-154M - 1 pcs.
    Tu-214ON - 1 pcs.

    Mi-28H - 14 pcs.
    Ka-52 - 17 pcs.

    Mi-35 - 8 pcs.

    Mi-26 - 4 pcs.
    Mi-8AMTSH - 53 pcs.
    Mi-8MTV5 - 10 pcs.
    Ansat-U - 6 pcs.
    ----------------------
    Total 75 new aircraft (of which 3 from the Czech Republic)
    and 112 new helicopters.
    In civil aviation, it is not bad either: CJSC Sukhoi Civil Aircraft (SCAC) flew 2013 new Sukhoi SuperJet SSJ24 aircraft in 100.

    22-th aircraft Sukhoi SuperJet SSJ100 built 2013 year (serial number 95045, temporary registration 97010). This is the ninth SSJ100 for the Mexican airline Interjet. The plane was lifted into the air in Komsomolsk-on-Amur 22.12.2013.
    1. Fanat1984
      Fanat1984 April 10 2014 22: 52
      0
      And the Czechs, I would have sent !!!
  • capex1
    capex1 April 10 2014 12: 58
    +11
    Su-35 is not a plane, it is a blade that pierces the sky and a magnificent specimen to tear apart the belly of a bald eagle. Have you seen how he flies !!!! So that I fly like that !!! So that we all fly like that !!!!
  • Sochi
    Sochi April 10 2014 13: 12
    +5
    I read the news and quietly go nuts ... from the moment of my birth to the present day aviation and indeed the technology has changed so much that you will not find it in any science fiction! Respect to our design engineers, scientists and simple hard workers who created and produce SUCH equipment.
  • Anton Gavrilov
    Anton Gavrilov April 10 2014 14: 40
    +2
    The plane is magnificent - it is equally good in both melee and long-range combat. In melee combat, it confidently wins over American 5 generation fighters - the results of simulation battles are a good example. I talked to a person from the defense min from the procurement department, according to him the number of aircraft of this type should confidently exceed 100.
  • VeteranS
    VeteranS April 10 2014 14: 59
    +2
    When I served in the DA on the TU-95 in 1971 under the fuselage, we dragged unmanned aircraft (cruise missiles) with a range of up to 500 km., I.e. the launched cruise missile fell 50 meters, its engines turned on and it flew independently to the conventional aircraft carrier, and 30-50 km to the target its wings were dropped and it (the rocket) rushed with a nuclear warhead to the conventional American aircraft carrier .... with amazing ability 100X100 km. I imagine how much more powerful and efficient our aviation is now!
    God save Russia and Holy Russia!
  • typhoon7
    typhoon7 April 10 2014 15: 04
    0
    Quote: GreatRussia
    + SU-30

    Only until 2016 will be delivered:

    A contract was signed for 30 Su-30SM until 2015. Plus, another contract was signed for the supply of 30 Su-30SM fighters until 2016. Plus a contract for 16 Su-30M2 aircraft for 2013-2015.

    Those. only until 2016, the SU-30 of various modifications will be about 76 pieces.
    Together with the SU-35 of the new SUshki there will be over 120 pieces, not counting the upgraded 27s.
    Plus new MiG-29SMT, already in service, about 30.

    And this is only for the latest fighter aircraft until 2016.

    The flywheel of rearmament unwinds, that's good. The car is cool, the pilot's workplace (if I may say so) is super. I can imagine what joy the pilots had, they waited, respect article, our Air Force too! good