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"NATO and Poland wanted cooperation with Russia" - an interview with the Minister of Defense of Poland

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"NATO and Poland wanted cooperation with Russia" - an interview with the Minister of Defense of PolandThe aggression in Ukraine radically undermined confidence in Russia as a predictable partner, guided by international law. The military conflict between Russia and Ukraine is becoming possible, but this does not mean that there is a military threat to Poland, says Tomasz Semoniak, Minister of National Defense of Poland. P.2 cites the text of the minister’s interview with the newspaper Vyborcha.


- What does the Minister of Defense think when he reads in the newspapers that for three or four days Russians may be in Warsaw or that within a week of the war our army will hide in the woods?

- This is nonsense, the purpose of which is to scare readers and increase sales. Such opinions are divorced from reality. Fortunately, readers of such newspapers behave much more responsibly than some commentators, and hysteria does not respond. We have a good army, trusted by society. We are members of NATO, we have allies, whose defense potential substantially exceeds the capabilities of potential adversaries. This is not 1939 year.

- This is a strong memory.

- Despite all the complaints, NATO has never let down any of its allies. The block has never been subjected to such attempts, and this testifies to its strength. I believe that our opponents should take into account in their calculations that the United States and NATO will take a military part in defending Poland, since it is impossible not to take into account the US military activity over the past few years in different parts of the world in order to defend allies, values ​​of the West or fight with terrorism.

- However, it is difficult not to perceive what is happening in Ukraine as a threat. On Sunday, a referendum was held, which sanctioned the illegal separation of Crimea from Ukraine. Information came from Kiev that troops were stationed on the border with Ukraine and Tanks, about the riots in the cities of eastern Ukraine.

- Creeping annexation of the Crimea is a violation of international norms. What is happening around Ukraine is an example of the use of sophisticated propaganda and military pressure. It is not pure play. Various disguised people with no insignia appear, riots are provoked.

- The military conflict between Russia and Ukraine has become possible, the Poles have the right to feel concerned, but there is no military threat to Poland. Therefore, let us not succumb to insane proposals to return to the call, to double the defense budget, or to such fantastic ideas as defense of the territory in the form of guerrilla war. It can't impress anyone.

The guarantee of our security is our own consistently modernized professional army, supported by mobilization reserves and strong allies ready to act. However, a discussion of how we can increase our defenses will never be redundant.

- What does the crisis in Ukraine teach us?

- To the fact that traditional military conflicts are still possible, and not just asymmetric or cybernetic. And it is important that the soldiers be trained and disciplined, so that they have aircraft, missiles, and tanks at their disposal. Reflecting on the latest developments is intended for critics of the recent decision to buy Leopard II 119 tanks in Germany. I believe that over the past years we have stood firmly on the ground, strengthening the defense capability of the army to protect the territory of Poland. Let us not be misled that Europe will always be safe.

- NATO sent fighters to the Black Sea region, AWACS planes fly over Poland and Romania, F-12 and 16 planes from the US military flew to the teachings to Poland. However, there are critics who claim that NATO’s reaction is too cautious.

- In my opinion, it is adequate. The question of why NATO is doing nothing, I heard two hours after the meeting of the Federation Council, which authorized President Putin to use the armed forces in Ukraine.

It is important to remember: Ukraine is not a member of NATO. The Union takes measures adequately to the extent of the development of this crisis and in accordance with the assessment of real threats to its members.

- After the decision was made to send American F-12 airplanes to Poland 16, Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko announced that he felt in danger and asked Russia to send 12-15 airplanes. In response, Su-27 aircraft were sent. How do you comment on this?

- As a propaganda-political act, which does not matter much, because there is nothing easier than increasing the number of aircraft from both sides in a few hours. I regard the speech of the President of Belarus as an attempt to break the silence and thoughtful statement in favor of one of the parties to the conflict.

“However, if combat aircraft are flying in the air, one of the pilots may have a finger to tremble, some accident with an AMRAAM rocket may happen ...”

- Polish and American pilots will work out the interaction, and not look for reasons to create tension. Such risks do not seem plausible to me.

- In the US, there were statements that, due to what is happening in Crimea, the Barack Obama administration must rethink its previous policy towards Central Europe, and, for example, return to the concept of the “heavy antimissile shield” of the Bush era.

- It is good that in the USA they began to talk more about the security of European allies. The question of the shield, however, arises there, mainly as an element of political criticism of the current administration. There were also voices in Poland itself, saying that it was our government’s fault that President Obama changed the concept of the shield.

The truth, however, is that the Obama concept provides for increased protection for Europe. The facts are as follows: a base is being built in Romania, which in 2015 will close part of the territory of Poland, according to the plan in 2018, a base will be built in Pomerania in Regicow. From a political point of view, the goal of increasing the US military presence will be achieved, and Poland’s security will increase.

- Due to what happened in Ukraine, will Poland revise the modernization program of the Armed Forces before 2022 to bring it in line with potential threats from the East and “classic” conflicts?

- There is no need, except for individual adjustments. Obviously, the fundamental principle does not lose relevance - Poland and NATO should protect their airspace. This is due to the program F-16 and the priority given to the creation of air defense.

“Within the framework of the Vistula program, Poland wants to purchase six anti-aircraft and anti-missile defense systems. However, this is a distant prospect.

“In the end, there should be eight.” This is the biggest in stories Poland's modernization program. We must ensure the interests of our industry and science. At present we are at the stage of negotiations with potential providers on this issue. I believe that we will find a way to speed up the receipt of these defenses.

- Some time ago there was information that the Ministry of Defense wants to equip F-16 with AGM-158 cruise missiles (JASSM).

- Yes. We are waiting for the approval of the US Congress to sell these missiles to Poland. It is assumed that it will be received in this half year. This is one of the elements of our closer military engagement with the United States.

- Returning to the tank forces, the Ministry of Defense decided to abandon the weak and outdated T-72 tanks, and, which causes controversy, the 233 tanks RT-91. At the same time, Leopard II tanks will be set up for repairs. At the time of the threat, is this a reasonable solution. Can it happen that we remain without tanks at all?

- It can not be. We planned to gradually repair our Polish enterprises 128 tanks Leopard A4, but first get from Germany more modern tanks Leopard A5. Now the schedule can be adjusted, repairs and service life shifted. It should be easy to analyze.

- How much will what happens in Crimea change the perception of Russia by NATO and EU members? In recent years, Moscow was perceived primarily as a partner.

- NATO and Poland wanted cooperation with Russia, although various tendencies were found in the policies of this state. What happened has seriously undermined trust in Russia as a partner guided by international law. I believe that no one in NATO feels any satisfaction in this regard.

This new situation requires a long-term response from NATO. A NATO summit should be held in the UK in September, of course, this will be topic number one.

However, in recent years, NATO has a little overslept the situation. Russia partially modernized its armed forces, which regularly conduct exercises, which the West did not do. Steadfast Jazz 2013 exercises were held in Poland for the first time in the last 10 years.

In the past few years, NATO, the USA and Poland have conducted two major military operations in Iraq and in Afghanistan. Tens of thousands of soldiers took part in them, with joint command, with real threats. We at NATO have been discussing for a long time how to keep the mechanism well-established to date at the highest level, especially since this year we are leaving Afghanistan. Hence the program of large-scale exercises held every two years, the beginning of which was initiated last year by the Steadfast Jazz exercise in Poland.

- How will this creeping Russian aggression towards Ukraine end?

- We are ready for different scenarios. I believe that, unfortunately, we will be dealing with this crisis for a long time and its negative consequences in the economic and political spheres.

For the West, this is the time to draw a number of fundamental conclusions. Energy and the level of funds allocated for defense are top priorities. At the same time, it is also a time to return to international politics based on basic values, democracy and human rights, respect for some countries towards other countries, and excluding threats and blackmail.

We support the European dreams of Ukrainians, they deserve it, because they are fighting for these values. In addition, this conflict makes us realize more deeply that Poland is part of the West, an ever stronger member of NATO and the EU. We need more faith in our strength.
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  1. Cetegg
    Cetegg April 10 2014 16: 09
    +18
    We don’t need NATO !!! with such friends and enemies is not necessary!)
    1. svetlomor
      svetlomor April 10 2014 16: 20
      +6
      What does the crisis in Ukraine teach us?
      To take what is bad, they would take their former territories, everything is only there FOR, let them have you maidanyat.
    2. Siberian19
      Siberian19 April 10 2014 16: 38
      +9
      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/554/jrmc722.jpg
      1. platitsyn70
        platitsyn70 April 10 2014 18: 59
        +4
        all the heroes are straight only to pour mud from Russia from the rostrum, and at the very point plays like a brave hare.
    3. starshina78
      starshina78 April 10 2014 19: 42
      +4
      This interview with the Polish Minister of Defense proves once again that Poles are "girls of easy virtue." As they were litters, they remain!
    4. waisson
      waisson April 10 2014 19: 49
      +7
      I will say briefly and clearly hi
      1. thrower
        thrower April 10 2014 20: 51
        +2
        Add - the handbook of any Pole.
    5. self-propelled
      self-propelled April 10 2014 19: 52
      +2
      Aggression in Ukraine radically undermined confidence in Russia as a predictable partner

      otherwise one might think that European countries directly blindly trusted Russia ?! All this Western hypocrisy is really tired! as my opinion, may be enough for Russia "to be conducted on this European divorce"? Russia is a self-sufficient state! It can exist independently of anyone. There maybe it is worth "putting a bolt" on all these disgruntled "European partners"?!?!
  2. Legin
    Legin April 10 2014 16: 10
    +8
    At the beginning he correctly said: "What does the Minister of Defense think when he reads in the newspapers that the Russians may be in Warsaw for three or four days, or that after a week of war our army will be hiding in the forests?" only without a question mark.
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  4. Stiletto
    Stiletto April 10 2014 16: 13
    +14
    “NATO and Poland wanted cooperation with Russia” - but sweating. NATO and Poland are, in Russian speaking, Elephant and Moska. And, apparently, they wanted "cooperation", as with Belgrade, Tripoli, Baghdad, etc., etc.
    Russia so and especially - with such not cooperating.
    1. bvi1965
      bvi1965 April 10 2014 16: 21
      +19
      "The haberdasher and the cardinal are strength"
    2. nahalenok911
      nahalenok911 April 10 2014 18: 28
      +1
      Mistakenly quite. The elephant is RUSSIA !!!
  5. shark
    shark April 10 2014 16: 15
    +9
    Well, what can I say .. There is only one conclusion between the lines - you need to quickly modernize your army and navy. The West will never calm down. And we should have the means and the ability to calm them down. In general, we need to roll up our sleeves and plow, plow ...
  6. melan
    melan April 10 2014 16: 15
    +7
    Russia showed NATO nevermind. They were offended and decided in September to get together and discuss this. Here is a brief summary.
  7. Anatolich
    Anatolich April 10 2014 16: 17
    +5
    - What does the Minister of Defense think when he reads in the newspapers that for three or four days Russians may be in Warsaw or that within a week of the war our army will hide in the woods?

    What are 3-4 days? It is not for nothing that our Armed Forces are not the first time to carry out the landing of military equipment. If desired, within 2-3 hours you can land in Warsaw ... or in Berlin. As practice has shown in Kiev, it is not necessary to capture the country, it is enough to take the capital to fool the population and all things.
  8. leon17
    leon17 April 10 2014 16: 18
    +3
    Poland? Where is it? )))
    1. dimdimich71
      dimdimich71 April 10 2014 16: 29
      +3
      NATO's heel
    2. kush62
      kush62 April 10 2014 16: 34
      +10
      Poland? Where is it? )))

      In the cartoon "Mowgli" they saw something from under Sher Khan yapping. So she's there.
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    4. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov April 10 2014 19: 01
      +2
      Quote: leon17
      Poland? Where is it? )))

      From under 3,14ndosiya not visible! But it is!
  9. plotnikov561956
    plotnikov561956 April 10 2014 16: 18
    +3
    "What does the Minister of Defense think when he reads in the newspapers that the Russians may be in Warsaw for three or four days, or that after a week of war our army will be hiding in the forests?"

    The correspondent absolutely brutally acted with a gentle love ... and what prostitute admits her past and present
  10. TEODOR
    TEODOR April 10 2014 16: 28
    +3
    Tanks, bases, sewn Bush. Iskander on your head, idiots.
    1. papas-57
      papas-57 April 10 2014 17: 40
      +3
      '' decisions to purchase 119 Leopard II tanks. '' They would have bought more Shermans. There is no money, they buy junk and still bark. It would be better to remember how England and France defended them from Hitler in 1939. The lessons of history must not be forgotten.
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  11. mamont5
    mamont5 April 10 2014 16: 28
    +8
    “We are NATO members, we have allies whose defense potential significantly exceeds that of potential adversaries. This is not 1939.
    - Despite all the complaints, NATO has never let down any of its allies. The bloc has never been subjected to such attempts, and this is evidence of its strength. I believe that our opponents should take into account in their calculations that the United States and NATO will take military part in the defense of Poland. "

    Or or naive. Poland is not learning anything. In 39, she was also fooled by her allies. It will be easier for Poland when NATO declares war on us and courageously concentrates its defense on the American continent.
  12. Mihail177
    Mihail177 April 10 2014 16: 31
    +5
    NATO and Poland wanted cooperation with Russia,
    As always, the psheks lie, the mongrel amersky. Essno right now they will run to ask the amers for some money to defend themselves against evil Russians.
  13. pahom54
    pahom54 April 10 2014 16: 32
    +6
    You read and think - either in my old age, I started to fool around, or the world is going crazy. After all, you are amazed when high-level people carry nonsense ... And what about the Poles - their hatred of Russia has a centuries-old history, but in fact - a prostitution trading nation. And speaking of the power of their army, I wonder how their Minister of Defense did not try to intimidate Russia with four tankmen with a dog ...
    1. Anatolich
      Anatolich April 10 2014 16: 36
      +5
      You shouldn't be like that, the film "Four Tankmen and a Dog" is a very good film, as a child I watched more than once.
      1. nahalenok911
        nahalenok911 April 10 2014 18: 35
        0
        I voted for the film. But not for "in vain you are so".
    2. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 April 10 2014 21: 16
      +1
      At one time I served in Poland for 5 years. I talked a lot with the Poles. My long-term impression is a corrupt, arrogant and cowardly nation! And such an overwhelming majority. Those with Russian roots told me directly - you will leave and immediately our rulers will sell themselves to Westerners. At first I hardly believed this, but now it is 100% confirmed! Never (!) Poles were Russian friends. And they won’t. During the war, this Poland was crushed by the German regular army in a matter of days. And, in my opinion, we wereted many lives in vain, saving the Poles in Warsaw, speeding up the offensive. And now this Polish goat shakes its horns and bleats with fear, looking at the Russian bear!
  14. avt
    avt April 10 2014 16: 34
    +5
    ,, - NATO and Poland wanted cooperation with Russia, although different tendencies were revealed in the policy of this state. What happened has seriously undermined Russia's credibility as a partner governed by international law. I believe that no one in NATO feels any satisfaction in this regard. "--------- Indeed, they only seriously convinced themselves that we would drown ourselves in the Arctic Ocean, and that time - Crimea! laughing And most importantly - they understand what will happen with their backsides and these two ... And you can’t argue! They really wanted different brewers to cooperate with the liberoid Russia - to tear apart and zones of influence, which they modestly called international control over Siberia and the Arctic. But suddenly such a bummer! Here it is the insidiousness of the Muscovites - instead of dying, they are also increasing the country! laughing
  15. razved
    razved April 10 2014 16: 34
    +4
    I remembered the words from an old pioneer song of Soviet times: "If I am with a friend, and the bear is without a friend." Only these "friends" have repeatedly gone to a lonely bear, and the end was always the same. And, of course, NATO, and in it the Rzeczpospolita - Poland (if anyone has forgotten) the most sincere friends of Russia, and we are simply ungrateful. Again, somehow it turns out by itself a bear and on the contrary a lot of friends (supposedly friends, but the Young Europeans do not want to talk about this).
    1. Setrac
      Setrac April 10 2014 18: 16
      0
      Quote: razved
      "If I am with a friend, and the bear is without a friend."

      I don’t care how many friends anyone has, if these friends are not bears.
  16. Shustov
    Shustov April 10 2014 16: 37
    +4
    Poland is a political prostitute.
  17. stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker April 10 2014 16: 37
    +5
    Such Russophobic comments on Polish TV are a dime a dozen ... 3-5 "talking heads" every day. There are also adequate people who are not led to the provocative questions of the paid leading jerk in the spirit of UkrBrekhSMI. They immediately shut their mouths like that ...
  18. Mareman Vasilich
    Mareman Vasilich April 10 2014 16: 38
    +1
    He would have walked with Kaku, this minister, the warriors are shitty, all his life on a snappy basis.
  19. tnship2
    tnship2 April 10 2014 16: 38
    +1
    Such funny chants-grumbles are for children. It was like that in childhood. -I just wanted to give you, but since you are like that, I won’t give you anything. Does Russia speak to them as full-fledged ones and they may have long survived from the mind? They just carry nonsense. these are pase-shmase. Maybe our diplomats can use such ones as a test of their mental development, I don’t know, for example, light sobering head-slaps, not strong spanking in a soft place, patting your ear a little, checking the reaction of these figures. And the women’s stuff is different in these offices - a separate song, who generally admits them to living people?
  20. shitovmg
    shitovmg April 10 2014 16: 42
    -2
    There is only one conclusion and it is read between the lines - you need to modernize your army and navy as quickly as possible. The West will never calm down. And we should have the means and the ability to calm them down. In general, we need to roll up our sleeves and plow, plow ...

    It is said well and in a fit of feelings it is quite possible to support! But ... the salary fell below 2008, there are cuts, there is no work, even climb the wall, prices begin to rise as in the 90s ... This is in our province. So from the belligerence of the Poles it becomes uncomfortable.
    1. kotvov
      kotvov April 10 2014 18: 03
      +1
      come on, heaven, we are Russia, the army and the navy are with us.
      and they conspired in vain for the article, the person simply conveyed the nonsense that is in the heads of pscheks.
  21. albi77
    albi77 April 10 2014 16: 43
    +1
    What does the crisis in Ukraine teach us?
    ____
    The mentality of the West is very different from the Slavic.
    They can justify and democratic the bombing of sovereign states, justify the killing of civilians with "precision" (but slightly off-course) weapons in the name of the great goal of democracy ...

    but when the question arises of a question unprofitable for the West ... even democratic elections or referenda become separatist and Nazi ...

    What else to expect from neighbors (across the mainland) who have been robbing all over the world over the past 800 years, from Africa, South and North America, Asia and everyone have brought to themselves ... From the crusades to the glory of the Lord and ending with the democratic bombing of Libya.

    What can I say ... we are similar in appearance, but we are different inside.
  22. jetfors_84
    jetfors_84 April 10 2014 16: 43
    +2
    You will live with the crisis, and we with the Crimea willow yew Polish.
  23. jetfors_84
    jetfors_84 April 10 2014 16: 46
    0
    WE are now, and you lost your trust even earlier when you stepped into NATO. Do you trust us with horseradish?
  24. mrDimkaP
    mrDimkaP April 10 2014 16: 49
    +4
    This article is much funnier than Zadornov’s!
    What is only worth
    US military activity over the past few years in different parts of the world in order to protect allies, Western values ​​or the fight against terrorism.

    Plus definitely!
  25. postman
    postman April 10 2014 16: 51
    +5
    interview of the Minister of Defense of Poland
    the questions are not asked by the correspondent
    - How will this creeping Russian aggression towards Ukraine end?

    Quote: Tomasz Semonyak
    This is not 1939.

    Then Tomas please comment:
    - Time of Troubles (In 1604, the army of the impostor invaded Russia, the siege of Sigismund in 1610 of Smolensk, the Polish garrison in Moscow, the burning of Moscow by the Poles in 1611, In 1617, the invasion of "Vladislav", who continued to bear the title of Grand Duke of Moscow, into Russia, Brest the union of 1596 and the polonization and polonization of Belarusians and Ukrainians with the Russians), about the invasion of Belarus (the Byelorussian SSR was proclaimed on January 1, 1919. were destroyed, died of hunger, bullying guards and diseases up to 200 thousand (about how the Polish uhlans were engaged in "cutting", trained brushes, chopping with sabers of captured Red Army soldiers), about the annexation in 80 (after the Munich agreement) from Czechoslovakia Teshin region, about annexation in August 1938 of the southern part of East Prussia and the territory of Germany east of the Oder and Neisse rivers (Pomerania, Lower Silesia and part of Brandenburg).
    From these territories the German population was expelled to Germany, moreover, this was often accompanied by violence and robbery (I don’t know who the Germans committed the most atrocities over the Poles in 1939-1945, or the Poles over the Germans in 1945: 14 million Germans were driven out of their homes in Poland, the Czech Republic, Hungary and other countries of Eastern Europe after the end of the war. Only 12 million managed to get to Germany alive. The tragedy of the expulsion of the German civilian population has not yet been realized by Germany’s neighbors. Mortality in Polish concentration camps, among the Germans in the winter of 1945/1946 reached 50%.
    / so for reference: in August 1945, the statute of the internationaltribunal in Nuremberg recognized the deportation of peoples a crime against humanity/

    and Tomas? what about ANSWERS?

    In response, Russian Su-27 aircraft were sent to the Russian Federation. How do you comment on this?
    Answer: Additional NATO aircraft in Poland are
    Quote: Tomasz Semonyak
    In my opinion it is adequate.

    and 12-15 aircraft of the Russian Air Force in Belarus is
    Quote: Tomasz Semonyak
    As a propaganda-political actnot significant

    The correspondent had to say: Tomash to you, that "CYCLE IN THE EYES, you will still say God's dew"

    Quote: Tomasz Semonyak
    Western values ​​or the fight against terrorism.

    Well, yes, if necessary, they will bomb the southeast of Ukraine with the same slogans, well, + also against "separatism"
    remember:
    -Korea
    -Vietnam
    -Cuba
    -Grenada
    -Panama
    -Afghanistan
    -Yugoslavia
    -Libya
    -Iraq
  26. 11111mail.ru
    11111mail.ru April 10 2014 16: 51
    0
    Let them fly to Smolensk!
  27. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 April 10 2014 16: 53
    +3
    IN THE GREAT DOMESTIC DOMESTIC, we in POLAND more than MILLION soldiers were buried. And now there are only rats. In times of war, several dozen nuclear warheads will be aimed at them. And such (friends) we will no longer need. negative soldier
    1. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 April 10 2014 21: 27
      0
      And they have never been friends to us!
  28. Orc-xnumx
    Orc-xnumx April 10 2014 16: 53
    0
    Nonsense to appear white and fluffy.
  29. konvalval
    konvalval April 10 2014 16: 54
    0
    If you would like to cooperate with Russia, and not with the junta.
  30. vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin April 10 2014 17: 01
    +3
    In Polish -
    look,
    as in a goat's poster.
    In Polish -
    they put out their eyes
    in a tight
    police elephant -
    from where, they say,
    and what is this
    geographical news? (V. Mayakovsky)


    No matter how they (the Polish modern gentry) "puffed up", they will remain a pug for Europe (Poland after the civil war was reanimated only as a cordon sanitaire against the USSR-Russia), and in fact correctly noted the Minister of Defense of Poland:"... for three or four days the Russians can be in Warsaw or that after a week of war our army will be hiding in the forests"... I'm not sure that NATO will protect them, as once allied England and France "protected" from Hitlerwhat
  31. ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 April 10 2014 17: 02
    0
    In today's world there is so much envy, evil, hypocrisy and deception that it is impossible to enjoy pure love and sincere happiness. Envious people will die. But envy is never!
  32. kind
    kind April 10 2014 17: 08
    +2
    “Within the framework of the Vistula program, Poland wants to purchase six anti-aircraft and anti-missile defense systems. However, this is a distant prospect.
    - In the end, there should be eight. This is the largest modernization program in the history of Poland. We must ensure the interests of our industry and science. We are currently at the stage of negotiations with potential providers on this issue. I believe that we will find a way to expedite the receipt of these defenses.

    They seriously assume that 8 complexes will save them ??? They generally hope for what, and in what dimension they live ??? !!!
  33. alex-cn
    alex-cn April 10 2014 17: 09
    +4
    No matter how much I read about "cooperation" - it boiled down to driving the "Russian bear" away into the forest and occasionally throwing cookies at him so that he would not stick out. But only when the bear got tired, many made it into their pants ...
  34. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf April 10 2014 17: 10
    +3
    - What does the Minister of Defense think when he reads in the newspapers that for three or four days Russians may be in Warsaw or that within a week of the war our army will hide in the woods?

    - These are nonsense, the purpose of which is to scare readers and increase sales. Such opinions are divorced from reality ......

    Next was not an exact translation!
    The original sounded:
    "M ... yours! What 3-4 days! What partisans! In a couple of minutes there will be no forest, no partisans ... Yo-p-r-s-t ... No Poland!"
  35. Bobxnumx
    Bobxnumx April 10 2014 17: 19
    0
    Verbiage! Poland weaves in the tail of the United States. Or maybe she has views of a piece of Ukraine, with its collapse.
  36. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch April 10 2014 17: 33
    +2
    The pans quickly reoriented themselves, they completely forgot history. Who saved them, whose 640 thousand soldiers and officers remained forever in Polish soil? They decided to rearm themselves - you don’t need Russia with weapons or without weapons. Wait, we will leave you the Carpathians with banderlogs, remember the inadequate Russia, quickly the Poles in memory erased the Lvov and Volyn massacres!
  37. Monk
    Monk April 10 2014 17: 33
    +3
    Our response to the NATO bastard - chi.
  38. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 10 2014 17: 35
    +1
    Softly stiletto. But we have no trust in Psheks or in NATO as a whole. We will stop on this.
    1. Lelek
      Lelek April 10 2014 19: 12
      +4
      The Poles are our bosom enemies. Although there are decent people among them. I knew them. On the whole, the Poles are driven by an inescapable sense of envy. The neighbor has everything and he is independent, but we have nothing and we have to bend in front of the big ones. Here is the "great and independent" to the same place. bully
  39. ken
    ken April 10 2014 17: 38
    0
    What can I say - a short memory among the Poles! It's a pity ! stop
  40. Sergey Vl.
    Sergey Vl. April 10 2014 18: 08
    +1
    Judging by this minister, the Poles are no longer Slavs, but spent their entire existence in the hole - neither up nor down, neither ours nor yours. And now they use scraps from the master, i.e. NATO table.
  41. vladstro
    vladstro April 10 2014 18: 19
    +1
    The T-72 is obsolete, and the leopard is the newest, well, so the tiger was cooler than our T-34, but just make one tiger with five Z4-kami, unless you unscrew the tower itself. And by the number of armored vehicles we are still ahead of the rest, so Psheks with their hundred of the most sophisticated leopards against our columns are unlikely to be capable of anything. Another thing is the use of strategic nuclear forces here, no matter how many armored vehicles there is.
  42. fregina1
    fregina1 April 10 2014 18: 22
    +4
    The Poles will only fall for the fall! Or rather the fall of the dollar! Germany will never tolerate a strong Poland! And even if Poland receives Galicia as a result of the collapse of Ukraine, then let the West of Poland be purely German lands donated to Poland by the Soviet Union! And undeserved gifts must be returned ! Better let the Polish ministers think about it! Clowns imagining themselves heirs to the Commonwealth!
  43. sv68
    sv68 April 10 2014 18: 49
    0
    why is there a bowl with nata they wanted to cooperate with us? after their cooperation, the states split up, such friends for x-- yes to the museum. without this happiness we will chew
  44. Al_lexx
    Al_lexx April 10 2014 18: 54
    +2
    "The Polish Minister of Defense says ..."
    Read. What can I say? Is it just that pan Tomus is simply trotting out, and therefore nods strenuously toward NATO.
  45. mig31
    mig31 April 10 2014 18: 59
    +2
    Always rotten and corrupt Psheks, talked about their strength, as part of NATO, of course, but by themselves, insignificance and cowards ...
  46. Lelek
    Lelek April 10 2014 19: 02
    +2
    Not yet evening. Banderlogs will attach ears to the ass of shannah pshchek. What song will they sing after that, or secretly hope that the Russians will grind the lawyers. No, panamanism, we will give you banderlogs in a beautiful UPakovka. drinks
    1. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx April 10 2014 23: 13
      0
      Quote: Lelek
      Not yet evening. Banderlogs will attach ears to the ass of shannah pshchek. What song will they sing after that, or secretly hope that the Russians will grind the lawyers. No, panamanism, we will give you banderlogs in a beautiful UPakovka. drinks

      So I think that it is necessary to leave the independence of the western regions (with a good border) and let the shovel themselves slurp, all this.
      Well ... they themselves wanted, built / destroyed, nurtured ...
  47. edeligor
    edeligor April 10 2014 19: 10
    +1
    All my respect! hi After reading the article, I realized that if there were no Ukrainian crisis, "our" partners would have come up with something else. And so ..., the relief of the NATO hangers-on is directly felt, they say, look, the Russians have shown themselves ...! And in general, the events of recent months once again made it clear to thinking people that nothing has changed since the confrontation. You can't be cute by force, therefore it is simply necessary to strengthen OUR ARMY AND THE NAVY !!!
  48. tokens2
    tokens2 April 10 2014 19: 14
    0
    What does the Minister of Defense think when he reads in newspapers that within three to four days the Russians may be in Warsaw or that after a week of war our army will be hide in the woods?

    Is that what? ... now the Poles will be indignant for the forests? Will they plant laughing
    That's right ... not to Siberia for firewood. Dual-use forests - and partisan and get warm.
    Yes ... Partizanskaya Street-stop Dzerzhinsky. laughing
  49. 51064
    51064 April 10 2014 19: 17
    +1
    Another propaganda "mess" of a Western official in an article disguised as a confession of a peacemaker. NATO has been preparing for the Crimean events for a long time, conducting relevant exercises with the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    In Poland, the missile defense base is clear to everyone why, only the penguins in Antarctica probably do not know. All recent "movements" with the strengthening of the bloc in eastern Europe, additional fighters in the Baltic and other places, ships in the Black Sea, etc., do not fundamentally enhance either the security of the bloc or Ukraine, and only pour water on the mill of the ideological struggle for Western and Ukrainian audience. There is no need to talk about the unpredictability of Russia after 080808, it would be hard not to guess what we will answer, even the NATO members themselves recorded the concentration of troops at a throw distance of 24 hours from Crimea. It is NATO and its members who are unpredictable - who will be attacked next - Syria, Iran, S. Korea and what will they do in these countries or somewhere else. One thing is clear that they will attack for sure and in the countries that are victims of the bloc it will be no better than in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, Vietnam, Korea, etc. etc. They will commit open aggression cynically under the guise of human rights, or international law, or something else as if it would be more profitable. NATO has never let its partners down wassat Apparently, the memory of Mr. Minister has been let down - Russia has been a NATO partner since 1994, and since 1999 his country - Poland has been a member of this alliance, meanwhile, the USSR president was once given guarantees not to expand NATO to the East. After what the USA and their allies, who already had the most doubters, did with Ukraine, I think the last doubts about the alliance’s long-term strategy with regard to Russia have disappeared. All partnership with NATO was and in the future should be reduced only to work on common problems and the fight against common enemies - and that’s all. Meanwhile, we are the main enemy for them, and they are ready to attack us at the first opportunity by military means and have long been attacking quite peacefully - within the framework of the law with the help of propaganda, the fifth column, economically, etc. At the same time, they use their entire arsenal against any states that are allied with Russia or simply sympathize with it, use military force as well, thereby trying to weaken and demonize us at the same time, trying to create an extremely negative image of Russia even in the eyes of their own electorate and allies. So, NATO and their officials should be trusted even less than Ribbentrop, Goebbels and other fascist Caudle.
  50. Stalevar
    Stalevar April 10 2014 19: 22
    +1
    Aggression in Ukraine has radically undermined confidence in Russia as a predictable partner guided by international law.
    Who said that now? Even Zadornov couldn't do that)). A herd of insane schizophrenics scoff at common sense and international law. Madness elevated to the rank of generally accepted norms, crucifixion of human rights and freedom of the people on the cross of "DEMOCRACY" !!! They have no future, they do not and cannot be. The entire sane world understands this perfectly, but is afraid to say it out loud. And now, under the aegis of Russia, I think a wave of discontent will rise and it will be unstoppable! Otherwise we will all be forgotten !!!