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Foreign mercenaries seen in Donetsk: a photo appeared on social networks

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Next week, at the level of foreign ministers, negotiations on Ukraine will take place, in which representatives of Russia, Ukraine, the United States and the European Union will take part. This was reported in the press service of the EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Catherine Ashton.


Peace initiatives do not prevent the United States from strengthening its military presence off the coast of Ukraine. Today it became known that another American destroyer, Donald Cook, arrived in the Black Sea, reports the Russia 24 TV channel.

According to the British newspaper Telegraph, the goal of a ship equipped with an air defense system and Tomahawk cruise missiles is to support Kiev. In the same area since March, there is already one American warship.

Meanwhile, a resident of Donetsk posted in social networks a photograph of a group of military men who were standing next to the local military registration and enlistment office. The fighters, armed with machine guns and light machine guns, spoke English. The form was clearly not Ukrainian.

Earlier, the coordinator of the united organization of activists in Donetsk, Self-Defense of Donbass, told reporters that a plane with two hundred foreign servicemen got into Donetsk. According to him, the legionnaires "do not speak either Russian or Ukrainian."

The Russian Foreign Ministry told 7 on April that the units of the internal troops and the National Guard of Ukraine “with the participation of militants of the illegal armed formation“ Right Sector ”were squeezing into southeastern Ukraine, including the militia of the illegal armed formation. operations are connected around 150 by American specialists from the private military organization "Greystone", dressed in the form of fighters of the Sokol division, the Russian foreign affairs agency stressed.

The White House USA denies this information. American mercenaries do not take part in the suppression of unrest in the south-east of Ukraine, the White House said on Tuesday, citing a representative of the private military organization "Greystoun", reports Interfax.

In Donetsk, supporters of the federalization of Ukraine form a provisional government. Donbass was the first among the Ukrainian regions to proclaim itself a sovereign republic. Protesters hold the regional administration building and declare that they will stand to the end. The discontent is caused by the fact that the new authorities persistently ignore the opinion of the inhabitants of the south-east of the country.
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  1. Uncle Serozha
    Uncle Serozha April 9 2014 09: 11
    +70
    In general, according to generally accepted norms, citizens of states that are not at war with this country, but the hostilities in it are considered mercenaries. The laws of war do not apply to them. Previously, they were shot on the spot, although from the point of view of the information war it would be better to catch a few alive - the frank confession of such a comrade shown on TV would be a strong argument.
    1. Afinogen
      Afinogen April 9 2014 09: 13
      +17
      Quote: Uncle Seryozha
      In general, according to generally accepted norms, such are considered mercenaries and the laws of war do not apply to them. Previously, they were shot on the spot.


      Catch such a mercenary and hang on a ray.
      1. 225chay
        225chay April 9 2014 09: 39
        +9
        Outlawing, so that every decent person can shoot like mad dogs!
        1. domokl
          domokl April 9 2014 09: 50
          +12
          Quote: 225chay
          Outlawing, so that every decent person can shoot like mad dogs!

          They are employees of a private military company. Indeed, they are mercenaries. That is why they are used because they are mercenaries. And therefore they have not received an order from the country of which they are citizens.
          There are up to 200 people in Donetsk now. The task is to steal activists, provocations (they have perfectly trained snipers), the protection of important objects. Most of the former special forces and marines. The company has been operating on the market for more than 20 years.
          1. papik09
            papik09 April 9 2014 10: 58
            +1
            So you need to show them where the crayfish hibernate, or how (Kingdom of Heaven) Mikita Khrushchev, KUZKIN'S MOTHER !!!! I think that will not seem enough. tongue
          2. Rus2012
            Rus2012 April 9 2014 12: 07
            +4
            Quote: domokl
            In Donetsk there are now up to 200 people

            Morning 9 April in Donetsk -
            In Lugansk, activists announced the arrival of reinforcements and assistance from the Crimea. The information needs to be clarified, but in general the situation seems to confirm what was said. The junta did not dare to storm either Donetsk or Lugansk. Protesters against the junta continue to strengthen their position.

            The pendulum of events is gradually swinging towards the opponents of the Kiev government, this is very clearly seen in the situation in Donetsk. At the same time, even in seemingly "liberated" Kharkov, the junta does not feel like a winner - the protests continue, the Ministry of Internal Affairs is forced to keep loyal forces around the state administration building, since from Avakov's point of view, local law enforcement agencies are completely unreliable.

            Despite the fact that in the USA they denied the presence of the soldiers of their PMCs in Ukraine, they showed evidence and photographs taken in Donetsk on Russian television, which recorded people in strange shape and, according to statements, filming who spoke among themselves in English:

            A curious fact can be added to the above. The IMF withdrew its forecast for the economic growth of Ukraine. One of the reasons is the possible separation of Donbass. The fact that for Kiev this will be a disaster, there is no point in saying. Just yesterday, Tymoshenko spoke rather hysterically on this subject, saying that Donbass is the basis of the country's economy.

            The situation continues to remain in an extremely unstable position, but in general the ball is on the junta field - if it is not able to carry out active actions, it loses time and pace. In the event that Donetsk can still hold a referendum (it is clear that it will be much more complicated and ambiguous than in Crimea), the May 25 elections may be called into question. Moreover, the very fact of the referendum will launch irreversible processes in other areas of the South and East, which the junta will no longer be able to not only control, but also monitor.

            That is why rational considerations may not work, and from the coupists we can expect the most unexpected decisions and moves - very far from reasonable. So the main thing in the situation is to prevent blood and direct collision. Under the circumstances, the junta only perceives force, and therefore the arrival of reinforcements from Crimea in Lugansk (and then, naturally, it will begin to arrive in other rebellious areas) may turn out to be a straw that will completely turn the tide.

            Source - http://anna-news.info/node/14895
          3. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith April 9 2014 13: 37
            0
            Quote: domokl
            They are employees of a private military company. Indeed, they are mercenaries. That is why they are used because they are mercenaries. And therefore they have not received an order from the country of which they are citizens.
            There are up to 200 people in Donetsk now. The task is to steal activists, provocations (they have perfectly trained snipers), the protection of important objects. Most of the former special forces and marines. The company has been operating on the market for more than 20 years.


            The cost of such a mercenary 2000 dollars per day. This is the cost during the fighting, so to speak, when it is on a mission. Total if their order 200 Fightersthen it turns out 400 thousand per day.

        2. GradusHuK
          GradusHuK April 9 2014 11: 15
          +2
          It is necessary to identify and publicize how much and who pays for these Nousers.
          1. APASUS
            APASUS April 9 2014 20: 27
            0
            Quote: GradusHuK
            It is necessary to identify and publicize how much and who pays for these Nousers.

            You say what you might think, Ukraine is a country of billionaires ?!
            Pororshenko and Akhmetov or do you need invoice numbers?
            1. allexx83
              allexx83 April 10 2014 00: 55
              +1
              Kolomoisky.
      2. johnsnz
        johnsnz April 9 2014 09: 41
        +13
        And, most funny, nothing will be for it! Well they are private traders, have no relation to any state-woo). Shoot the bastards!
        1. DimychDV
          DimychDV April 9 2014 09: 53
          +8
          But they are professionals. Are there enough professionals among those whom they came to shoot?
          1. Fedya Sukhov
            Fedya Sukhov April 9 2014 10: 34
            +11
            Yes, a wagon of people in Ukraine who are prepared no worse, or maybe better. They are pupils of the old Soviet school and they are not so many 40-55 and a bit older and all special skills at the level of reflexes are developed! Another day, well, a maximum of a week for training, and on the road! I am increasingly interested in the question of where they are hiding now and what they are waiting for!
            1. DimychDV
              DimychDV April 9 2014 10: 51
              +2
              Me too. And how long.
            2. Tron
              Tron April 9 2014 11: 24
              +13
              Quote: Fedya Sukhov
              Yes, a wagon of people in Ukraine who are prepared no worse, or maybe better. They are pupils of the old Soviet school and they are not so many 40-55 and a bit older

              Both in Ukraine and in Russia there is a terrible force - our women, who, if pissed off, pile up such zvizduli !!! am Oh, I know by myself ... wassat
              1. Danash I
                Danash I April 9 2014 14: 09
                0
                send greens? belay
        2. domokl
          domokl April 9 2014 09: 54
          +12
          Quote: johnsnz
          They’re private traders,

          Here it is .. And the cost of the work of such fighters is approximately 20000-30000 American rubles per fighter per month .. 50000 commanders are the same rubles ... Who pays?
          1. Canep
            Canep April 9 2014 09: 59
            +5
            Quote: domokl
            Who pays?

            I would put the question differently on how much money is enough. I think 200x30000 = 60.000.000 per month is quite burdensome even for Taruta. And this is only the salary, and also the income of the company, as well as the insurance of each soldier and taxes. I doubt that these fighters linger for a long time.
            1. Fedya Sukhov
              Fedya Sukhov April 9 2014 10: 41
              0
              The question is who pays, if the Americans themselves, then they are seeds! 5 yards of the green on the Maidan have already been lowered and one hundred percent are ready to spend more on supporting "democracy" in Ukraine!
            2. With Petrovsky
              With Petrovsky April 9 2014 10: 47
              0
              Well, they are also provided with "friendly help" from the country "friends".
          2. Strezhevchanin
            Strezhevchanin April 9 2014 10: 01
            +5
            Quote: domokl
            Who pays?

            Yes, this is insanity !!! We came to shoot people, at the expense of the same people !!!
          3. Tersky
            Tersky April 9 2014 10: 09
            +10
            Quote: domokl
            Here it is ... And the cost of the work of such fighters is approximately 20000-30000 American rubles per fighter per month .. Commanders from 50000 of the same rubles.

            It is necessary to help the "company" in saving the cost of wages for "labor" due to "reduction ( am ) "staffing table ..
            1. Canep
              Canep April 9 2014 10: 13
              +11
              Hello Victor! hi And the staff reduction they will have, it is also a matter of time. Just start with the customer - Taruta. I think after its liquidation, these fighters will dump on the charter.
              1. Tersky
                Tersky April 9 2014 10: 16
                +3
                Quote: Canep
                And the staff reduction they will have, it is also a matter of time.

                states as I understand it with a big capital what, laughing Sergey, hi !
                1. Canep
                  Canep April 9 2014 10: 19
                  +5
                  No, not yet. The abbreviation of those that will be capitalized by the Lord with the help of the Yellowstone volcano.
                2. papik09
                  papik09 April 9 2014 10: 55
                  +3
                  Yeah, and do as Kurchatov suggested - the strait between Canada and Mexico laughing
                  1. Canep
                    Canep April 9 2014 11: 33
                    0
                    Quote: papik09
                    as Kurchatov suggested - the strait between Canada and Mexico
                    It would be better if the North American Federal District is there after the dust has dispersed.
              2. Tra-ta-ta
                Tra-ta-ta April 9 2014 11: 44
                +3
                hire the same "no one" and delete the members and candidates of the illegitimate government ..!
                If these are bandits, then what to stand on ceremony ..
                1. BIGLESHIY
                  BIGLESHIY April 9 2014 15: 14
                  +1
                  Quote: Tra-ta-ta
                  hire the same "no one" and delete the members and candidates of the illegitimate government ..!
                  If these are bandits, then what to stand on ceremony ..

                  So just hire a bearded man from the North Caucasus and let them cut the Bosko to them (we’ll kill two birds with one stone and save the bearded soldiers and attach them to the mountains so that they don’t look into the mountains).
            2. infinite silence ...
              infinite silence ... April 9 2014 10: 20
              +3
              It is necessary to help the "company" in saving costs for payment of "labor"


              The bill is growing for disconnecting the southeast ... As it was with the Crimea. Who paid for the detachment of the Crimea? States
              Apparently this rake did not teach them anything.
          4. 225chay
            225chay April 9 2014 10: 19
            +1
            Quote: domokl
            Here it is .. And the cost of the work of such fighters is approximately 20000-30000 American rubles per fighter per month .. 50000 commanders are the same rubles ... Who pays?


            Scythian gold?
          5. Burberry
            Burberry April 9 2014 10: 20
            +5
            Quote: domokl
            Who pays?


            With them candy "Roshen" calculated.
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          7. Pharao7766
            Pharao7766 April 9 2014 13: 59
            0
            Quote: domokl
            Who pays?


            Alexander, good afternoon hi
            And to see here loot collected ...

            http://money.ua/army/
      3. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich April 9 2014 10: 26
        +5
        Quote: Athenogen
        Quote: Uncle Seryozha
        In general, according to generally accepted norms, such are considered mercenaries and the laws of war do not apply to them. Previously, they were shot on the spot.


        Catch such a mercenary and hang on a ray.
        laughing which rhea can withstand? laughing
        1. papik09
          papik09 April 9 2014 10: 53
          +4
          For this - I will specially order at my own expense laughing drinks
        2. Sapper
          Sapper April 9 2014 11: 42
          +1
          Pretty boy! His Coca-Cola machine is watering!
        3. allexx83
          allexx83 April 10 2014 00: 59
          0
          Yeah, not every belay belay
      4. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa April 9 2014 13: 23
        0
        What romance played in the shower ?? Enough with them and ordinary lampposts.
    2. Riperbahn
      Riperbahn April 9 2014 09: 14
      +8
      And now the same standards :)
    3. Canep
      Canep April 9 2014 09: 18
      +9
      Quote: Uncle Seryozha
      from the point of view of information war, it would be better to catch a few alive.
      I think the soldiers of the army of the south-east of Ukraine can do this. It is the matter of time.
    4. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB April 9 2014 09: 21
      +12
      The language must be taken ...
    5. maks-101
      maks-101 April 9 2014 09: 25
      +5
      In general, according to generally accepted norms, citizens of states that are not at war with this country, but the hostilities in it are considered mercenaries. The laws of war do not apply to them. Previously, they were shot on the spot, although from the point of view of the information war it would be better to catch a few alive - the frank confession of such a comrade shown on TV would be a strong argument.
      Yes, they will disown them and no one will admit that they sent them. They must be outlawed in the UN.
    6. brelok
      brelok April 9 2014 09: 29
      +7
      I think they’ll catch it! In Chechnya, they are not so dragged on Kukan
      1. DimychDV
        DimychDV April 9 2014 09: 55
        0
        The Ukrainian army did not fight in Chechnya. Unless private traders in Yugoslavia. Yes, some were brought to Iraq ...
        1. Tersky
          Tersky April 9 2014 10: 19
          +3
          Quote: DimychDV
          The Ukrainian army did not fight in Chechnya. Unless private traders in Yugoslavia.

          Well, yes, the Army, of course not, in Chechnya, "private traders" Yarysh and Bilyi with 500 in the role of "human rights defenders" were ..
    7. Grenz
      Grenz April 9 2014 09: 37
      +5
      Something I do not understand the members of the forum.
      In the material dated March 25 this year. "PMCs are an effective tool of influence" - completely different assessments are given by PMCs.
      BRAVO PMC. Need PMCs. PMC is everything! Russian PMCs will save both Russia and Ukraine.
      Guys, we are like weathercocks.
      Let’s make some decision. And then there they bombarded me, but here - everything is clear. PMCs are illegal.
      But what about our good and fluffy Russian PMCs. Maybe we’ll forgive them. And?
      1. Tersky
        Tersky April 9 2014 10: 13
        +2
        Quote: grenz
        But what about our good and fluffy Russian PMCs. Maybe we’ll forgive them. And?

        And for what?
      2. lelikas
        lelikas April 9 2014 10: 20
        +7
        Quote: grenz
        Guys, we are like weathercocks.

        Are we cuckooing like weathercocks?
        If our government had hired PMCs to war with its people, they would have been obstructed too, all honestly.
    8. maximus235
      maximus235 April 9 2014 09: 40
      +5
      And what prevents showing, and then slaughter like a ram?
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    10. Aryan
      Aryan April 9 2014 09: 46
      +11
      where are the african american mercenaries? racial segregation again? am
    11. Anisim1977
      Anisim1977 April 9 2014 09: 54
      +10
      He came, as many as 150 animals, so what?
      Are they immortal or what ???
      Blame these without thinking - you look and your punks grow wiser.
      Partisans of Novorosia - your way out !!! hi
      1. domokl
        domokl April 9 2014 09: 58
        +7
        Quote: Anisim1977
        Partisans of Novorosia - your way out !!! hi

        They are no longer partisans, but the army of the southeast ... And this is another quality. They abandoned the masks. So they will fight to the end .. the option to sit down for life, I know, is not considered ...
    12. Rus2012
      Rus2012 April 9 2014 10: 54
      +3
      Quote: Uncle Seryozha
      In general, according to generally accepted norms, citizens of states that are not at war with this country, but the hostilities in it are considered mercenaries. The laws of war do not apply to them. Previously, they were shot on the spot, although from the point of view of the information war it would be better to catch a few alive - the frank confession of such a comrade shown on TV would be a strong argument.

      That's right - to catch, accelerated interrogation with addiction ... and put all the face-tokens on the Internet and through RT. Announce we will issue only in the hands of mothers ... both in public and under television cameras.
      And finally it’s not shameful and the right hands to cripple the chop in the future it was not good to take up arms ...
    13. Cherdak
      Cherdak April 9 2014 11: 02
      +1
      Quote: Uncle Seryozha
      are considered mercenaries.

      Americans live in their comics and video games.
      In Ukraine, they will face reality.
      Waiting for results
  2. Coffee_time
    Coffee_time April 9 2014 09: 13
    +5
    It’s necessary to catch a couple on the air, well, to protect the population.
    1. polite people
      polite people April 9 2014 09: 16
      +9
      You need at least one per count.
      Rats will run.
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      1. Anisim1977
        Anisim1977 April 9 2014 09: 57
        +6
        The main force of the Maydan now is youth from the western part of the country, for 200 hryvnias Maydan. To shoot mercenaries a little even - and a very large part of those going to the right-wing rallies will think - but they need to die for 200 hryvnias? am
  3. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 April 9 2014 09: 13
    +14
    all the same, the Americans stubbornly want to rake off the Russians, well, they really want to rake it off for sure, it’s not Zimbabwe.
    1. GradusHuK
      GradusHuK April 9 2014 11: 24
      +1
      If you ask for Toda for a long time, you will get her to her.
  4. Sultan
    Sultan April 9 2014 09: 13
    +12
    These are the goals of the No. 1 hunter for mercenaries of our special forces during operations on the territory of Ukraine ...
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 April 9 2014 09: 23
      +3
      Quote: Sultan
      These are the goals of the No. 1 hunter for mercenaries of our special forces during operations on the territory of Ukraine ...

      "Wild geese" with apples.
      1. Rus2012
        Rus2012 April 9 2014 11: 03
        +1
        Quote: Alex 241
        apples.

        ... apples without vaazelin will go to the right hole, think? laughing
        1. self-propelled
          self-propelled April 9 2014 12: 11
          +2
          Quote: Rus2012
          ... apples without vaazelin will go to the right hole, think?

          they don’t get used to it. in extreme cases, you can help ... laughing
          with love"...
          1. bubalik
            bubalik April 9 2014 12: 15
            +3
            self-propelled  Today, 12: 11 ↑ 


            ,,, or so ,,, lol
            ,,, Wild West during the development of America. A young cowboy impressively enters a rickety roadside eatery, casually holding a huge colt in his hand.

            - Hey you, fat cattle! Fast whiskey and chicken! Quickly, otherwise I’ll shoot your head off! - Two bullets fired from a threatening weapon fly into the ceiling. The bartender flies off to the kitchen, the cowboy sprinkles curses.

            An old man sits at the end of the rack. With a trembling hand, he holds a glass of whiskey, with his other hand periodically wipes watery eyes.

            - How to call you, cowboy? - The young impudent did not immediately hear a quiet senile voice.

            - Billy! - Contempt came through his voice.
            “They saw the fly, Billy!” The old man's twisted finger pointed to the cowboy's colt.
            - What for? - the guy was embarrassed.
            - Order whiskey, I'll tell you.
            The guy ordered about a drink and moved closer to the old man.
            “Once upon a time, I was as young as you, Billy, and as hot,” the old man once again wiped his wet eyes. - I had the same beautiful Colt with a long barrel and a huge fly. It was my pride, I could fall into a fly with 30 yards. Once ... - the old man's shoulders shook, tears burst from his eyes - I remember this day in the smallest detail! Mmmmmmm ...

            Billy ordered another companion for whiskey and gently took the stranger by the shoulders. The old man calmed down and continued.

            “I, just like you today, entered one saloon.” Cursing the bartender, I took the whiskey and sat at the table. I did not immediately notice that company of visitors. They have just arrived from Spain. They say they were runaway convicts. There were six of them. The Spaniards stood up quietly and came to me. I immediately grabbed my colt, but it was too late. They took off my pants and ... - The old man again suffocated in sobs. - They took off their pants and inserted my pride, the trunk of my colt in my ass. And then .... - Billy reassured the old man for about five minutes, until he heard the ending of the wild story. “They put it in and ... cranked it ... six times!” SAVED THE MOUSE, BILLY !!!!!!!!! laughing
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    2. Coffee_time
      Coffee_time April 9 2014 10: 23
      +1
      And attribution, in view of the activation of PMCs near the border of the Russian Federation
  5. Kodar 75
    Kodar 75 April 9 2014 09: 15
    +9
    By the actions of these PMCs, the USA and Europe simply wash their hands ...... They say that the blood of people will not be on us ...
  6. Sergg
    Sergg April 9 2014 09: 16
    +18
    I always said: you need to deliver weapons to honest rebel guys. Weapons are needed to destroy the enemy, above all, punitive detachments of private armies.

    The Kremlin must not look at all this indifferently. The troops enter early, but assistance with weapons, food, money can be provided now. They are waiting for our help, everyone understands this.
    1. Anisim1977
      Anisim1977 April 9 2014 10: 03
      +6
      They already have weapons - in Lugansk they captured a weapon with a thousand trunks. hi
      I don’t think that it is impossible to throw from Kaluga, Odessa and Odessa lanes from Lugansk and Donetsk.
      At this stage, for every millionaire, a company of partisans is enough. To work not in squares, but from attics and wastelands. Run a quiet, invisible horror of am and law-abductors. am
  7. Sochi
    Sochi April 9 2014 09: 19
    +18
    Mdya ... etozh to what it is necessary to go down to allow foreign mercenaries to its territory ... the wrong country was called Honduras.
  8. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov April 9 2014 09: 20
    +11
    And what's surprising here Kiev junta will do anything just to stay in power ... and if Russia loses in this battle, Ukraine will be crammed with foreign troops for the next dash to Moscow. It's not for nothing that the last 23 years of "independence" the Ukrainian army and navy have practically liquidated for the "Ukrainian project" of the West it is not needed) What we now see ...
    1. DimychDV
      DimychDV April 9 2014 10: 10
      +5
      I, of course, only read here and in the domestic officialdom about Ukraine. But, in my opinion, all the main actions of Kiev (if we discard all the husks) objectively lead to an armed conflict within the country and are aimed at involving the Russian army in the conflict. And the question "who benefits?" maydanutye are not asked. And if they took it, they shaded in red those countries and regions where the United States and the European Union have been noted since 1999 until now. Including Xinjiang Uyghurs. It turns out such a long-lasting anti-Russian node (a hunting fire made of long-burning logs). And everything immediately becomes clear - who benefits and why. If Europe still somehow needed Ukraine as a market or a dividing line, then the States need ONLY FLOWING UKRAINE. After all, they are also just fuel in the Ukrainian part of this node. A cordon sanitaire, like Poland in 1920 - 39 for Europe, amers are not satisfied. It's not a pity to burn the plague in the fire. Do they really not see, do not understand that they will not be calm in such an imperious situation even for an hour? What got them? ..
  9. Anton Gavrilov
    Anton Gavrilov April 9 2014 09: 20
    +6
    Again, the Americans, this was to be expected.
    1. Coffee_time
      Coffee_time April 9 2014 10: 25
      +2
      And another American ship entered the Black Sea ... to save PMCs while fleeing Lugansk partisans
  10. morpogr
    morpogr April 9 2014 09: 21
    +7
    Selling power wants to protect themselves with corrupt troops.
  11. Grenz
    Grenz April 9 2014 09: 22
    +16
    It would be strange if the White House recognized the fact of using its PMC. Moreover, there will be an excuse - the state has nothing to do with it, it is a private company bought by Poroshenko.
    I was bombarded when I spoke out against PMCs. PMCs are illegal. Chase like mad dogs. UN-level solution. My opinion. The use of military force is the right of the state from which one can ask. And so - this is banditry.
    No, PMCs are needed - say forum users. On our site - even advertising is posted about our PMCs. Like they can help Ukraine. Aw! Where are you? Why don’t you help the Donetsk lads.
    Negate again - but PMCs are internationally evil and should be destroyed at the Nazi level.
    No matter in which country it is created, and under whatever good intentions, this does not happen. It is known - good intentions - the road to hell.
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre April 9 2014 10: 17
      +3
      I fully support. If the rebels, even religious ones can still be understood - there are ideas, albeit not always good ones. That PMC - criminality and open gangsterism of pure water. Must be outlawed and prohibited.
      No good intentions can be an excuse for releasing such a gin from a bottle. The whole history of mankind speaks of this.
      This is in the modern world this phenomenon is 2-3 decades. If we recall what this led to in medieval Europe ... All sorts of free brothers there, but condottiers and other war hyenas.
  12. Alex_Popovson
    Alex_Popovson April 9 2014 09: 25
    +3
    Damn Academi arrived in the bisova Zapadenschina, to finally turn Ukraine into a likeness of the moon.
  13. Cossacks
    Cossacks April 9 2014 09: 27
    +2
    I read the comments and the question arose of who dispersed the GRU special forces.
    1. brelok
      brelok April 9 2014 09: 31
      +3
      And who dispersed them? People are working
    2. Andriuha077
      Andriuha077 April 9 2014 10: 16
      +2
      Currently, the GRU special forces consists of seven separate special-purpose brigades and several naval intelligence posts with a total number of up to 10 thousand troops [7].
      from 28 January 2010 In the bowels of the Russian Ministry of Defense a new plan is ripening - to unite all the special forces of various ministries into a single structure subordinated to the General Staff. With a similar proposal, Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov http://argumenti.ru/army/n222/47582
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        Quote: Andriuha077
        GRU special forces consist of seven separate special-purpose brigades and several naval intelligence posts with a total of up to 10 thousand military personnel [

        Of these 7 brigades, the 2nd, 10th, 12th, 14th, 16th, 22nd and 24th only the 2nd brigade remained in full force. All the rest after Serdyukov’s reform cannot be restored to their former quality ..
  14. erased
    erased April 9 2014 09: 30
    +9
    Why in Donetsk railway stations, airport and main roads to the city are not taken under control? Is it really not clear that the enemy will build up forces, conduct reconnaissance, prepare the offensive?
    In general, is there anyone to resist these lads from the Minnesota?
    No, nevertheless, it will probably reach the blood. Although it has already arrived, the first hundred activists in Kharkov are considered to have disappeared.
    1. I read the news
      I read the news April 9 2014 13: 28
      0
      Let's take a closer look, they take control of the station and what? for what purpose? What will it affect?
  15. made13
    made13 April 9 2014 09: 31
    +10
    There are no mercenaries in Ukraine - both the USA and Ukrainians declare this, so if they are destroyed or captured, there will be no consequences. No man - no problem!
    1. mamont5
      mamont5 April 9 2014 10: 01
      +2
      Quote: made13
      There are no mercenaries in Ukraine - both the USA and Ukrainians declare this, so if they are destroyed or captured, there will be no consequences. No man - no problem!

      And for them, and so there will be nothing. But if you take this and present, all the same, the noise will rise, albeit a private trader.
  16. Vita_vko
    Vita_vko April 9 2014 09: 31
    +8
    It’s a pity the captured guys, although they call it arrests, but in fact they are prisoners of war and possibly hostages. If now it is possible to collect reliable information that hundreds of captured demonstrators are hostages, then we can safely equate the new Ukrainian government with a terrorist organization with all the ensuing consequences. And do not look back at PACE, NATO and the United States, they have long been in full friends not only with terrorists but also with the devil himself, for whom the main argument is that this friendship is against Russia.
    This could not be allowed to capture the protesters. Avakov and other maydauns are criminals who have long crossed the line by shooting both their own and others on the Maidan. Therefore, they have nothing to lose and take at least a hundred, even a million, as hostages, it is only a matter of time and effort. Such understand only power. People, of course, came out without weapons, but even unleashing a civil war will not stop either Kiev or the EU, and even less the United States.
    Therefore, we need a reliable system of self-defense. Otherwise, the khan will be not only Russian, but also the majority of Ukrainians, and the whole southeast will be turned into one big penal servitude.
    A good solution could be the closure by Russia of airspace over Ukraine, in order to prevent the use of troops against demonstrators. With such air support, many people would stop being afraid and quickly clear the southeast of the Maidan.
  17. fif21
    fif21 April 9 2014 09: 41
    +3
    A grouping of forces and means is being created to suppress the uprising in the southeast. The Russian Foreign Ministry reacts sluggishly to the Ukrainian events. Who invited the mercenaries? Who paid? Who is the curator? Copies of contracts? Location? Surnames, addresses of translators? A surname list of "tourists" with addresses and family composition. GRU RF, you know what?
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      Quote: fif21
      GRU RF can know what?

      The GRU, intelligence and sabotage management, and does not have such information, for this there are foreign intelligence units, only Chapman’s relatives work there ... But seriously, you need to look at the guarantor’s reaction, but it’s not yet ...
  18. dmitrii2121
    dmitrii2121 April 9 2014 09: 44
    +9
    Russia has been blamed, blamed and will always be blamed for everything. What to look at it, they vseravno accuse. Today on TV they said that in Lugansk the guys left the building of the SBU, believing the deputy Tegipko. What can this Tegibko guarantee if he even wants, nothing, and the guys are spotlighted and now they will be squashed, including with the help of PMCs, so do not care whom to wet. The guys did stupid things, they also left their weapons. Now we need to arm ourselves, these scumbags understand only power. Unarmed, they convey how the example of Kharkiv is chickens. You can not hear our people's deputies who literally not long ago squealed like pigs. If this is some kind of plan then okay, and if it is a betrayal, then this is bad, Yugoslavia 2. And then forget about the Russian world and the protection of Russians around the world. But the reaction should be SE does not see the reaction of Russia and support, too. Although of course they themselves must seriously declare themselves. Each revolution is only worth something when it can defend itself. It is time to end the peaceful protests, you will be transferred to a pre-trial detention center in many other regions, there will be enough for everyone, if concentration camps create it for them not to get used to. Therefore, no matter how scary and sad it is, only with weapons can you defend your rights. And only when they Banderlog feel adequate response, their plans will begin to crumble. But Russia is not interested in standing on our borders and we are not interested, otherwise they will soon be in Moscow. There are no options, you need to fight for your interests. And shit on their sanctions and worse times survived. Putin, if now he is profounding this situation, then his rating has nowhere to fall below. In Russia, support for SE needs to be organized, at least the rallies and speeches of deputies, they should see that Russia is with SE. The only hope is that systematic work is going on, recently the President and the authorities have more than once proved their worth, we hope that they will be able to replay these Ur-v.
    1. Jogan-xnumx
      Jogan-xnumx April 9 2014 12: 19
      0
      Quote: dmitrii2121
      Today on TV they said that in Lugansk the guys left the building of the SBU, believing the deputy Tegipko.

      Nobody left and will not leave. This is disa. Tigipko, like Akhmetov in Donetsk, no one believed either. As long as there is no referendum, no one will leave.
      [media = http: //portall.tv/news.php? id_news = 1926]
  19. sm00vik
    sm00vik April 9 2014 09: 45
    0
    Evil (not good) green men.
  20. propolsky
    propolsky April 9 2014 09: 51
    +3
    Here is a good chance for our special forces to excel: to catch and interrogate, I think a lot of interesting things can be learned. Well, then for the soap ...
    1. papik09
      papik09 April 9 2014 10: 47
      +1
      And to interrogate with the use of special equipment, so that later they would be "wadded" drinks
  21. Vtel
    Vtel April 9 2014 09: 51
    +9
    It's time for "polite" people to show up in the Russian-speaking regions of the Outskirts, they can, and "polite" even more so.
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 April 9 2014 10: 46
      +2
      Quote: Vtel
      It's time for "polite" people to show up in the Russian-speaking regions of the Outskirts, they can, and "polite" even more so.
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  23. Serge56
    Serge56 April 9 2014 09: 53
    +3
    recently composed "song of the National Guard soldier"

    to the tune "Your Honor, Lady Luck ..."

    1. Ukrainians are in poverty
    and hohls muddied everything
    what's next to the enemy
    and confuses them all the time.

    At the Rusaki border
    wild and with tanks
    they’ll cut everyone into pieces,
    all children with citizens.

    2. Kiev girls
    behind the curtains outside the windows.
    Kiev boys
    Lviv dispersed.
    Life goes wild
    theft is commonplace.
    Blasphemous time
    and who anal.

    3. Crimea is already messed up
    and prosrut Donetsk.
    The women talked -
    "soon everyone pi ..!"
    They gave me a gun
    you do not wait for me
    I’ll hardly survive
    well, and you, not bzdi.
  24. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 April 9 2014 09: 58
    +1
    Kiev called for mercenaries because there are few real soldiers who can support them. Few people want to fight with the people. But on the contrary, it is better for mercenaries to shoot defenseless for this and receive money. But to communicate with the regular parts, they are not fools, they will immediately run away. It would be nice to catch them and show on TV. drinks
  25. Zelen
    Zelen April 9 2014 10: 01
    +1
    Watering the goat !!!!
  26. Wolland
    Wolland April 9 2014 10: 09
    0
    Prepare another action of provocation. cold calculation, achievement of necessary goals, optimism, these are the values ​​that must be present in people who see these MUDS.
  27. ed65b
    ed65b April 9 2014 10: 11
    +9
    Damn, this is how you need to hate your people to invite "dogs of war" to kill your people. In theory, the people of Ukraine should start hunting frostbites and their systematic destruction. This is occupation in its purest form. I can't even imagine that this would happen on the territory of the Russian Federation. They really don't know what they are doing.
    1. JoylyRoger
      JoylyRoger April 9 2014 10: 35
      +1
      Just know, IMHO.
      Their strengths are not enough, their own siloviki and look that they will run away, or will switch to the other side.
      And the show trial itself, like the Nuremberg shine, shines on its own. Therefore, either Chechen scumbags are asked, then American.
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    3. Jogan-xnumx
      Jogan-xnumx April 9 2014 12: 36
      +2
      Quote: ed65b
      Damn, this is how you should hate your people to invite "dogs of war" to kill your people.

      Living in the southeast for banderlogs - not the people. Those who have now seized power, before the gnashing of teeth, they hated and hate the inhabitants of eastern Ukraine. All! Both Russians and Ukrainians. They only hate the fact that we exist. They are ready to kill the whole southeast, to the last inhabitant, like locusts, to gnaw everything to a state of desert.
      And here SE also gave his voice, said his weighty word. And this is for the Bandera scum and corrupt politicians like a grenade in the ass! No checks. At the same time, they are shaking with fear for their filthy skins and are becoming Satan from anger!
  28. ALEKS419
    ALEKS419 April 9 2014 10: 31
    +1
    Quote: Canep
    Quote: domokl
    Who pays?

    I would put the question differently on how much money is enough. I think 200x30000 = 60.000.000 per month is quite burdensome even for Taruta. And this is only the salary, and also the income of the company, as well as the insurance of each soldier and taxes. I doubt that these fighters linger for a long time.
    west, with ami help. For them to kindle a fire a holy thing.
  29. Ilja 22
    Ilja 22 April 9 2014 10: 32
    +1
    American destroyer - "Donald Cook" brought "crap" to Ukraine, it's time to take action too, send a regiment of special forces under the guise of pro-Russian opposition activists
  30. fktrcfylhn61
    fktrcfylhn61 April 9 2014 10: 34
    +1
    Take the language as in the old days, and there will be a lot of information for discussion! And in general, mercenaries are the same as drug addicts and alcoholics! Man comforts himself and his ego, regardless of the rest! This is the same egoist only in relation to human lives and destinies! These must be finished first of all as mad dogs!
  31. Ivan Tucha
    Ivan Tucha April 9 2014 10: 35
    +1
    It is necessary to somehow help the local neutralize the mercenaries. A couple with interrogation on the vidos and on all channels and social networks, then into the pit of Saxon bitches, no, first publicly flog in the square, one damn suicide bomber.
  32. papik09
    papik09 April 9 2014 10: 41
    +1
    NOT, mercenaries need (caught) to beat off the kidneys so that they would piss every 15 minutes wassat and then let go hi , but first (before the kidneys are beaten off), it is necessary that they tell on the record who hired them, what tasks they set, and so on angry ... Then beat off the kidneys, and scroll the record to the whole world. And let them go home "workers" laughing drinks
  33. Sergg
    Sergg April 9 2014 10: 42
    +3
    IT IS NECESSARY to help the rebels, they need to eat, in order to organize a protest march of many thousands, they need to provide an uprising with food, money is needed for this.

    There, real living people are arrested, normal honest guys, they can be released only if people rise.
  34. Ivan Tucha
    Ivan Tucha April 9 2014 10: 49
    +4
    Once the ambassadors of the USA, France, Spain, Germany, and Denmark gathered on Maidan; Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland; US Senators Chris Murphy and John McCain; German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle; European Union High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Catherine Ashton; former Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili; Dutch Foreign Minister Frans Timmermans; MEP Jacek Protasevic; Lithuanian Foreign Minister Linas Linkevicius; Speaker of the Sejm of Lithuania Loreta Graužinene; former Prime Minister of Poland Jaroslav Kaczynski; Czech Senator Jaromir Stetina -
    and accused Russia of interfering in the internal affairs of Ukraine!
  35. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 9 2014 10: 51
    +2
    Crush like nits. Catch a few pieces, put in a cage on wheels and carry around the country, and on TV broadcast to the whole world, what a warm welcome awaits the wild geese from our specialists.
  36. LIS 25
    LIS 25 April 9 2014 10: 51
    0
    it's time to introduce polite people, let them teach courtesy.
  37. ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 April 9 2014 10: 55
    +1
    Judge as judged by the Criminal Code. That is, both the mercenary and the hiring party are both guilty. Who hired aggravating wine! Even if there was no crime yet. FOR INTENTIONS !!!
  38. Midshipman
    Midshipman April 9 2014 10: 59
    +5
    Repost
    http://forum.sevastopol.info/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=771429&start=475

    Last night, from Lugansk:
    "Quote
    Ryabya Luhansk asks for help today they will kill us, they drove 10 armored personnel carriers, already on the roof of the hotel "Lugan" there are security officers in black uniforms and rifles, For two days now, groups of people from all over the region Lisichansk Alchevsk Rubizhne Anthracite Rovenka Popasnaya Izvarino Cretaceous Krasnodon, these are those who came on April 7.04.14, 10.00, miners from Sverdlovsk came today. in the morning at XNUMX, one of the leaders came out of the SBU building to them, gathered everyone in a circle and said this speech "Thank you for coming for supporting us, but I want to warn you that if you join us there will be no way back, because this morning I was negotiating with the general. The general gave the answer "you undead." Before you enter, think, there is no turning back, today we were recognized as terrorists. " In response, he heard you are our heroes, and everyone who stood in the square began to shout HEROES !!! the second day we ask to come TV no one, cry for help Russia save us !!!!!!!! God help me guys, the cry of the heart will kill us today. "
    .................
    Lugansk. Now.
    Thousands of Luhansk residents stand with a human shield, closing fighters of the eastern front, holding candles.
    There is music in the air that makes the blood run cold - this is the anthem of my homeland - the USSR! And the words of the anthem of Russia.
    Stream here - http://rusvesna.su/news/1396986207
    There are calls to Putin to intervene and protect the inhabitants of Donbass from the Bandera, fascist regime of the Kiev separatists.
    Lugansk! Antifascist Kiev is with you!
    http://www.odnoklassniki.ru/video/62540500555055-0
  39. ed65b
    ed65b April 9 2014 11: 01
    +1
    Today they don’t give me the brains of the Ukrainians on the censor to set me right. either our hackers pamper, or mine isn’t stupid. tears through time, offensively. Check people out there? for all, or only for me. hi
    And then there an interesting conversation began. Admiral Ukrainsky announced that the forces of the means and capabilities of the Ukrainian army are close to ideal and so powerful that they are ready to fight on all fronts, even on the intergalactic ones and to speak of fighting spirit and say no snow would melt if it were. laughing
    1. Jogan-xnumx
      Jogan-xnumx April 9 2014 12: 55
      +1
      Quote: ed65b
      Today they don’t give me the brains of the Ukrainians on the censor to set me right.

      Are you an optimist ??? belay In order to correct, we would still be convinced that they are there. laughing If there is gas, but there is no car, then you can’t even slide down the hill ... hi
  40. SILAnov
    SILAnov April 9 2014 11: 01
    +1
    It's time to move forward for languages ​​!!!!
    Who is with me? soldier
  41. aleks 62
    aleks 62 April 9 2014 11: 05
    +1
    Quote: Andrew Y.
    Quote: Athenogen
    Quote: Uncle Seryozha
    In general, according to generally accepted norms, such are considered mercenaries and the laws of war do not apply to them. Previously, they were shot on the spot.


    Catch such a mercenary and hang on a ray.
    laughing which rhea can withstand? laughing

    ..... Ray of the cruiser "Peter the Great" ...... :)))))))))))))))
  42. Tima
    Tima April 9 2014 11: 13
    0
    Do not take mercenaries captive !!!
    1. Orc-xnumx
      Orc-xnumx April 9 2014 11: 42
      +1
      Quote: Tima
      Do not take mercenaries captive !!!

      Just need a couple of C grade! Let them pose in front of the TV and chat!
  43. Orc-xnumx
    Orc-xnumx April 9 2014 11: 40
    0
    The junta once again "leaned" on the constitution of its country!
  44. Sergg
    Sergg April 9 2014 11: 49
    +2
    News post:
    One of the leaders of the Kiev criminal junta Avakov gave the order to "restore order" within 48 hours in the east of Ukraine.




    Do ethnic cleansing begin? If the rebels from eastern Ukraine take up arms, they will show consistency and the courage of ethnic cleansing can be avoided. Otherwise there will be massive, endless arrests, bullying and killings.
  45. kelevra
    kelevra April 9 2014 11: 49
    0
    Well, you have to pack up and go to the Southeast to protect citizens from lawlessness!
  46. Sapper
    Sapper April 9 2014 11: 51
    0
    The fighting qualities of these scumbags will show real combat clashes, but judging by their past "deeds" in Iraq, they have a point
    Not iron. And in Afghanistan, these clever people even go to the shop for cigarettes in crowds on Hammers with machine guns.
  47. Rusin Dima
    Rusin Dima April 9 2014 11: 51
    0
    I wonder what American ships will help Kiev with.
  48. Andrey Ulyanovsky
    Andrey Ulyanovsky April 9 2014 12: 16
    0
    "Why did the natives eat Cook? It's not clear about that, science is silent."

    Lower the waterline and knock ... Polite dolphins are friends of polite people.
  49. wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 April 9 2014 12: 26
    0
    This whole situation strongly resembles this series of films about Dr. Aybolit.
    A cartoon for children, but adult thoughts. It's time to wake up.

  50. dmitrii2121
    dmitrii2121 April 9 2014 13: 20
    +3
    In the morning it was that the guys left in Lugansk. I learned with great joy that the guys were not blown away. Now the information that suits support weapons is already there, and for work on technology. Judging by the information, literate guys, officers, paratroopers, etc. It is necessary to expand the area of ​​responsibility to take control of nearby buildings, otherwise they will be gouging like a railway station in Grozny. Defense must be active not to sit still. The city provides an opportunity for small groups of 10-15 people in their area and very effectively influence the aggressors. For a group of a couple of machine guns, 1-2 grenade launchers, 1-2 snipers, machine gunners at the cover and at the basement. THOSE WHO ARE GOING TO YOUR ENEMY! Start burning equipment on the approaches on the streets, and then everything will go wrong with them, go ahead with their plan, they assume that they have equipment and they have advantages. Guys http://www.iconbit.ru/products/107044/ I think they’ll be competent and sort it out themselves, but I want to at least somehow help them give the card numbers to organize financial support. Your cause is just, victory will be yours. Arm yourself and may God help you!