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There is no third: the Ukrainian South-East will either be with Russia or will drown in blood

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There is no third: the Ukrainian South-East will either be with Russia or will drown in bloodVladimir Putin will have to make a difficult but fateful decision


Did not become the Ukrainian (so far Ukrainian) South-East to wait for the elections of 25 in May. Even despite the presence in the list of candidates of such a character as Oleg Tsarev, who is among the supporters of the pro-Russian vector is considered to be his board. The white envy of Crimeans is so strong, the distrust of the Kiev authorities is so great, which, of course, will not leave any candidate a chance who at least, let's say, for the order, suddenly remembers that historically Sevastopol is no Ukraine ...

Boiling hot. “Boiled” before: the regional administrations in the Ukrainian regions adjacent to Russia were previously captured by pro-Russian activists, but were relatively easily released by the Ukrainian police, and the SBU regularly conducted criminal proceedings against the “separatists”.

But something yesterday suddenly went wrong according to the scenario that was made for the junta, and the Kiev authorities could not “quickly resolve the conflict”. As a result, the Donetsk People's Republic was established. And a declaration was immediately adopted, an excerpt from which was given by Interfax: “On behalf of the people of the Donetsk People’s Republic, only the Supreme Soviet of the republic can speak. The most important state issues related to the development of the republic, its relations with other states are submitted for a nationwide discussion or referendum. ”

Such a mocking parody of maydanschikov, who, having seized all key government bodies in Kiev, also decided that henceforth the power in Ukraine was for the people who are represented in the Verkhovna Rada. In which, by the way, not everything seems like the pro-Russian deputies reacted to the Donetsk initiative with understanding. So, even on the eve of the establishment of the Donetsk People's Republic in an interview with KM.RU, the prominent Donetsk “regional” Nikolay Levchenko called on the countrymen to “not expose” him with his colleagues, who, they say, plan to resolve the issue thoughtfully and legitimately.

“Criminal cases will open against you, you will be prosecuted. We are working to ensure that your requirements are met, and we will achieve this. Our primary task is to hold fair elections in the legal field, to legally remove the current government and establish a legitimate, truly elected power by the people, ”the parliamentarian dictated to our correspondent. But the further development of events is more likely an occasion for the “regionals” themselves to think hard about what has happened in the last weeks or months, that the South-East treats their words as a worthless informational garbage.

The head of the Russian community of Ukraine Konstantin Shurov noted Russia's special mission in the further development of events in the South-East of Ukraine:

- It seems that the process of further crushing Ukraine has become irreversible. After the events in Crimea, the current authorities settled in Kiev did not draw the right conclusions and did not realize that people no longer want to live in the conditions offered to them and with such national oppression and humiliation that, again, they don’t want Ukraine to turn into nazi state.

The current Ukrainian leadership has come to power illegitimately, ousting the legitimate president Viktor Yanukovych from Ukraine, but at the same time he considers himself entitled, having a snack, to bet on force and intimidation of the population. So what result did they ultimately expect?

Unfortunately, that part of the quasi-elite that is today in power, as well as the remaining quasi-elite, is very, very poorly known history its own land. And this only means that everything for them in this story will end very badly, although, I am sure, the people themselves will feel at the same time a better life.

It remains the only, but very important question: can Russia follow the Crimea in the same format to solve the problem of the Ukrainian Southeast, namely, the Luhansk, Donetsk, and Kharkov regions. And there after, you see, Kherson, Nikolaev, and Odessa will catch up. And there is already Zaporozhye just around the corner ...

This will be a very serious step by the Kremlin. Will Moscow be able to do it, heed the promises that come from there? And the population of the South-East has repeatedly appealed to the Russian authorities. So on behalf of the established Donetsk Republic, as we know, a new one appeared ...

The very fact of the establishment of people's authorities practically leaves no doubt that the South and East have no way back. And there are only two options: either the Russian government de facto recognizes the Crimean version of the development of events and makes the appropriate decision, or the Russian South-East will be filled with blood.

But, be that as it may, the population of Donetsk, Luhansk, Kharkiv and a number of other Ukrainian regions do not want to live under the control of the current Kiev authorities. And if those who are there at the helm of power today do not understand this, then the people are ready to decide their own destiny.

Vladimir Putin, in turn, having said “a” in the history of the Crimea, will inevitably have to say “b”. I repeat, there is no other choice left: after all, any step of the Kremlin aimed at curbing the initiative of those who speak on behalf of the Donetsk People’s Republic today will be a fatal mistake. In fact, it will simply untie the hands of those who are ready to pour the Donbas even now. Sloboda, Zaporozhye blood.
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  1. olegglin
    olegglin April 9 2014 15: 43
    +60
    In Dnepropetrovsk, some policemen guarding the local regional administration tied St. George's ribbons on the uniform. This caused hysteria among local Ukrainian patriots. The deputy governor of Dnipropetrovsk Svyatoslav Oleinik, who is in charge of coordinating the work of law enforcement agencies, commented ... on the social network Facebook: "... we are all people, and yesterday, when I saw these Berkut workers with Putin's ribbons in the courtyard of the ODA, I understood for sure that I did not want so that they guard us .... I realized that, in fact, I cannot turn my back on them and feel safe. I am afraid that in any place, when faced with people who are wearing these ribbons, I will feel a sense of danger emanating from them. Apparently, I am finally becoming a Bandera. "

    Reply
    1. alex-s
      alex-s April 9 2014 15: 46
      +67
      I am afraid that wherever I come across people wearing these ribbons, I will feel a sense of danger coming from them. Apparently I am finally becoming a Bandera. "


      How the devil incense shy away from St. George's ribbons - idiocy to the highest degree!
      1. ASASHOKA
        ASASHOKA April 9 2014 16: 40
        +24
        Since 1993, the policy of Ukraine has been the same - "who does not jump - that mos.cal!", "Muscovites on knives" and the like. This is a school program! What do you want from them?
        1. dmitriygorshkov
          dmitriygorshkov April 9 2014 17: 06
          +13
          Quote: ASASHOKA
          Since 1993, the policy of Ukraine has been the same - "who does not jump - that mos.cal!", "Muscovites on knives" and the like. This is a school program! What do you want from them?

          Yes, that's all! We want our head turned on!
          And it is not necessary to blame everything on the school curriculum! The bulk of the population does not have much left in the head of many school subjects, but when it becomes necessary, people find sources and educate themselves! What prevents "ancient ukram" from crawling through other sources ???
          1. sniper
            sniper April 9 2014 19: 10
            +11
            And they need it ??? As long as I can remember, Ukrainians have seen in Russia a parasite who "must be fed ..." And always, after a couple of cups, they began to argue about how they would heal if they were independent ... And it was in the middle of the last century ...
            1. bulatovvvas
              bulatovvvas April 9 2014 20: 12
              -1
              Even having joined Russia, they will look to the West! And why should we expand and strengthen our "fifth column" ???
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        2. vladimirZ
          vladimirZ April 9 2014 17: 47
          +16
          Vladimir Putin, in turn, saying “a” in the history of the Crimea, will inevitably have to say “b”. I will repeat, there is no other choice: (from the article)


          So that Russia, the President of the Russian Federation V.V. after Crimea they said "b", we need intelligible actions of the Russian-speaking regions of the South-East of Ukraine, aimed at combating the Banderaites, held referendums, in which the majority of the population will speak out for self-determination and joining Russia.
          Without this, Russia can only expect diplomatic and economic demarches in defense of the Russian population, as well as tacit assistance from the Army of the South-Eastern Partisans.
          Unfortunately, under the prevailing conditions, the salvation of the victims is, first and foremost, the work of the victims themselves.
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          2. nika407
            nika407 April 9 2014 18: 00
            +6
            An interesting film caught my eye. The film is about a corporate war in Ukraine, about private military companies (PMCs), Blackwater, etc. It also reveals the secret of "polite people" in Crimea.
            Author Vyacheslav Negreba, known for films: "Football - an instrument of global governance", "Police extremism" and the series of programs "Conceptual View", as well as radio broadcasts: "Anatomy of Power" and "Conceptual Power"
            1. koshh
              koshh April 10 2014 00: 48
              +1
              Thanks, looked and I advise everyone. All the way to tears.
          3. Homo
            Homo April 9 2014 18: 05
            +15
            Quote: vladimirZ
            Unfortunately, under the prevailing conditions, the salvation of the victims is, first and foremost, the work of the victims themselves.

            Totally agree with you. I have already written on this topic more than once. The desire for the entire southeast is not yet visible. Judging by the number of protesters, this is not the majority. Sometimes it even looks like a provocation in order to drag Russia into a tough confrontation with the West. And for Russia to get half of the population in "partisans" and even a complete boycott of the West makes no sense. We can go back to the times of survival, when money will be directed not to improve life, but to plug holes. And as a result, we will lose everything that Russia has achieved and will again become a poor outcast, to whose opinion no one listens.
            1. Max alex
              Max alex April 9 2014 20: 07
              +2
              and the affairs of Russia the Great are not so bad !!!! it’s the West and the states are worried !! Russia is on the rise and very confident !!! and the rest of the world is furious !! no one can threaten Russia, much less attack it !! those days are gone !!! everyone will be repulsed and impressive and fast !!!
      2. avg
        avg April 9 2014 16: 47
        +7
        Quote: olegglin
        Yesterday, when I saw these Berkut workers with Putin's ribbons in the courtyard of the ODA, I realized for sure that I did not want them to guard us. Apparently I am finally becoming a Bandera. "

        And the people of the Southeast do not want people like you to rule them for a long time. What do you not understand, "democrat" Bandera?
      3. Max alex
        Max alex April 9 2014 17: 42
        +7
        and in Kiev they go with yellow-blue ribbons))) at the mod type, like idiots accesoire)))
        1. RUSS
          RUSS April 9 2014 17: 58
          +5
          [quote = Max-Alex] and in Kiev they go with yellow-blue ribbons))) at the mod type, like idiots accesoire))) [/ quote

          So even the Mazepa’s marked themselves (so as not to confuse them in battle) with yellow-blakid bandages in the color of the Swedish flag.
      4. nahalenok911
        nahalenok911 April 9 2014 17: 43
        +3
        This is pure paranoia !!! Oh god What 25th frame worked all the time on this unfortunate land? .. O_O
      5. DEfindER
        DEfindER April 9 2014 18: 04
        +14
        Quote: alex-s
        How the devil from incense shy away from St. George ribbons

        Drive them to x .. they still only understand this way of communication ..
      6. GSH-18
        GSH-18 April 9 2014 18: 07
        +21
        I apologize for not being completely on the topic. Now on Rossiya24 channel there was a plot - Putin, Medvedev, Lavrov and others discussed what to do with gas supplies to Ukraine due to total non-payments - the debt to Gazprom 2,2 billion dollars, the total debt of Ukraine of the Russian Federation 16,6 billion tanks !! Putin looked frowning.
        After this story, my household listened to a 1,5-minute series of selected mat. Therefore, I will not violate the rules of the site. In connection with the plot, the question is, how long will we tolerate the deliberate and undisguised impudent behavior of the unbelted bandits who seized power in Ukraine ??!
        They have the audacity to dictate US conditions! belay
        And refuse to pay off debts. And also set an acceptable price for OUR gas for yourself !!! am
        And our chewing snot again. Yes, close the valve tries, and until they pay the entire debt in full, and make a prepayment for six months in advance, DO NOT TURN ON! How long can this crap go on ???! angry
        1. Yuri Sev Caucasus
          Yuri Sev Caucasus April 9 2014 18: 25
          +1
          I support you, I am in the same perplexity about the actions of our authorities! Is the gunpowder over ???
          1. Walk
            Walk April 9 2014 20: 05
            +3
            Everything is very simple. There is an agreement on gas supplies to Europe. And the contract stipulates where exactly Europe should receive gas. And even if Russia supplies gas through the Nord Stream in the required volume, it will still be a violation of the contract. Therefore, we still have to endure the kooks of the maydanutyh. Most likely, negotiations are underway to change the delivery point due to the unreliability of the transit carrier.
            1. svd-xnumx
              svd-xnumx April 9 2014 21: 13
              +1
              To supply as much gas as it should be to Europe, to stop the supply to Ukrainians, they will steal it, poke their nose. There have already been "gas wars", I think they have not forgotten what to do, but now there is Nord Stream, Europeans will be stealing, you can indicate where you can get gas without interruption. Yes, and the case with South Stream to move.
        2. nika407
          nika407 April 9 2014 18: 32
          +1
          Maybe it's just too early to spin. By the way, Gazprom will not offend itself, definitely. And Putin asked not to advance Ukraine yet. I wonder what "bye" means ...
        3. Trinity
          Trinity April 9 2014 23: 27
          0
          GSh-18 / You say that our snot chew and that it is necessary to close the valve tries? And what does the multimillion population of Ukraine have to do with it? The heating season has not yet ended, and how will the same women, old people, children, including babies, be heated? Your obscene or what? It’s not their fault that the ghouls and ghouls seized power. Our brains then (as you called them) have more brains than yours, because they primarily think about the population of Ukraine, and not about the turkish and egg-laying. End the heating season and turn on the tap do not hesitate. And before verbal diarrhea defecate in someone else's address, first turn your head on.
      7. infinite silence ...
        infinite silence ... April 9 2014 18: 16
        +9
        How the devil from incense shy away from St. George ribbons


        Let them shy away! Let her dream them !!!
        This is our land! Watered with the blood of our grandfathers!

        And our ribbon makes them fear! Because it carries a huge force and courage of the Russian people !!!
        And envy - because they do not have such a symbol!
      8. Vita_vko
        Vita_vko April 9 2014 18: 37
        +2
        Quote: alex-s
        How the devil from incense shy away from St. George ribbons

        "Как"In this case, superfluous. George the Victorious is a Saint not only among the Orthodox, but also among the Catholics! So they shy away. It's about the same with the St. Andrew's flag, causing panic on American ships.
        1. GSH-18
          GSH-18 April 9 2014 19: 49
          +1
          Quote: Vita_vko
          Quote: alex-s
          How the devil from incense shy away from St. George ribbons

          "How" is superfluous in this case. George the Victorious is a Saint not only among the Orthodox, but also among the Catholics! So they shy away. Much the same with the St. Andrew's flag, causing panic on American ships.

          GEORGIAN TAPE symbolizes Russian military prowess, its colors are black and orange are the colors of powder smoke and flame. This is a holy symbol of Russian military exploits and victories over superior enemy forces.
    2. smel
      smel April 9 2014 15: 47
      +28
      Quote: olegglin
      .. I realized that, in fact, I cannot turn my back on them and feel safe. I am afraid that wherever I come across people wearing these ribbons, I will feel a sense of danger coming from them. Apparently I am becoming a Bandera fighter ".

      Reply

      If you are a bastard, it’s scary to turn your back on a decent person
      1. Dym71
        Dym71 April 9 2014 15: 52
        +19
        Quote: smel
        Quote: olegglin
        .. I realized that, in fact, I cannot turn my back on them and feel safe. I am afraid that wherever I come across people wearing these ribbons, I will feel a sense of danger coming from them. Apparently I am becoming a Bandera fighter ".

        Reply

        If you are a bastard, it’s scary to turn your back on a decent person


        Yeah! Now he turned his back on Lyashko and is waiting for happiness
        1. RUSS
          RUSS April 9 2014 16: 02
          +9
          Quote: Dym71
          Yeah! Now he turned his back on Lyashko and is waiting for happiness


          Lyashko is more special in adolescence, and he can expect "happiness" from the rear-wheel drive Avakov
        2. Tersky
          Tersky April 9 2014 16: 55
          +4
          Quote: Dym71
          Yeah! Now he turned his back on Lyashko and is waiting for happiness

          belay , and bend the back?
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        4. Max alex
          Max alex April 9 2014 17: 33
          +3
          Lyashko himself will quickly turn his back on the one who has more!)))))
      2. svetlomor
        svetlomor April 9 2014 15: 55
        +23
        Vladimir Putin, in turn, saying “a” in the history of the Crimea, will inevitably have to say “b”.
        I'm afraid to even think about what will happen when Putin says "I".
        1. Barakuda
          Barakuda April 9 2014 16: 04
          +5
          For starters, "fas"!
        2. igor36
          igor36 April 9 2014 16: 45
          +6
          Quote: svetlomor
          I'm afraid to even think about what will happen when Putin says "I".

          One of two things: either Japan or Jamaica lol
          1. dmitriygorshkov
            dmitriygorshkov April 9 2014 17: 18
            +3
            Quote: igor36
            One of two things: either Japan or Jamaica

            I agree! Yalta is already there!
            1. IGS
              IGS April 9 2014 17: 23
              +6
              Well, if only Kabaeva asks ... a pony and a T-shirt laughing
        3. Polarfox
          Polarfox April 9 2014 16: 52
          +38
          You know, I used to treat Putin with some distrust, and there were reasons for this. After the Crimea, I’m sure that this is not the president, but the presidency. I respect you for not shaming the honor of Russia.

          PS I'm far from hysterical ladies who "want someone like Putin," and I'm not going to confess my love. There is nothing for me to love politicians, I have people close to me. But respect - yes. Respected. And I think many Russians do.
          1. Arberes
            Arberes April 9 2014 17: 53
            +11
            Quote: Polarfox
            I am far from hysterical ladies who "want someone like Putin," and I am not going to confess my love. There is nothing for me to love politicians, I have people close to me. But respect - yes. Respected. And I think many Russians do.

            I, too, am not his zealous fan but!
            Now this person is the hardest. Very difficult times are ahead, fateful and God forbid bloody ?! I want to wish VVP success in solving these complex problems, a lot depends on him now !!!
          2. asbaev
            asbaev April 9 2014 18: 32
            +3
            Yes, the only thing that comes to mind now is that I will vote for him in 18
          3. PValery53
            PValery53 April 9 2014 19: 53
            +1
            Well, woman, you are Human!
        4. Max alex
          Max alex April 9 2014 17: 40
          +1
          I hope that the letter "I" will not reach !! Vladimir and other more important issues need to be dealt with, rather than wasting time on those who do not deserve it ,,,,, and when the letter - I will be, then we will probably read the 2nd volume of the book Sun over China !!! )))) everything will be fine then !!!
        5. ziqzaq
          ziqzaq April 9 2014 19: 08
          +2
          Quote: svetlomor
          I'm afraid to even think about what will happen when Putin says "I".

          More interesting what will happen when it comes to the letter "Y", where is it? Maybe this is the "prize" sector, i.e. of your choice?
      3. RUSS
        RUSS April 9 2014 16: 01
        +12
        Quote: smel
        If you are a bastard, it’s scary to turn your back on a decent person


        But to pi ... su Arsen Avakov, is he not afraid to turn his back?
      4. old man 72
        old man 72 April 9 2014 16: 48
        +7
        A decent person will never shoot in the back, he will destroy these bastards by looking directly into their eyes. This is the scum who fears most!
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      6. dmitriygorshkov
        dmitriygorshkov April 9 2014 17: 16
        +7
        Quote: smel
        If you are a bastard, it’s scary to turn your back on a decent person

        + I agree. Add a little.
        If you are a bastard, then it’s scary to turn your back on anyone, because you measure everything on your own!
        Yesterday, I clashed with ukrom on one site, it seems that they decided to talk on garlic without attack. So, as I didn’t explain to him, he didn’t believe that Russia needs Crimea because there are Russians! He told me everything, that Crimea is economically harmful to Russia , so we are pursuing some base plans for the population!
        The most offensive is that he has a surname Smirnov ...
        1. Thompson
          Thompson April 9 2014 18: 20
          +1
          Why didn’t you ask him, if the Crimea is economically so bad, what do you grab onto it yourself and this, given their economic situation ???
          And to any of his answers, the answer is HERE AND WE ARE SO! bully hi
    3. seller trucks
      seller trucks April 9 2014 15: 54
      +22
      Vladimir Putin will have to make a difficult but fateful decision


      I would be cautioned in the place of the author to make loud statements and wishful thinking. no matter how cynical, but the people are not yet ripe, to my great regret. firstly, there must be good reasons for a forceful scenario, and the current government is now being cautious. and secondly, we can actually face resistance, which can rally under the idea of ​​resistance to the "invaders". We must wait. Article (-)
      1. aleshka
        aleshka April 9 2014 17: 06
        0
        I completely agree with you, they have not yet matured! We need another six months at least!
        1. aleks700
          aleks700 April 9 2014 17: 59
          +3
          for half a year they will finally crush.
    4. kirieeleyson
      kirieeleyson April 9 2014 15: 57
      +9
      wink This is how our people should be afraid and hate in order to shy away from our symbols of victory over fascism like this. People in the Dnieper need to really think about what kind of snakes they had warmed in the control rooms, because all anti-Russian rhetoric will lead to Bandera’s isolation from the Russian world, and Geyrope don’t need such garns for free, there are enough of their gypsies.
      1. Arhj
        Arhj April 9 2014 16: 27
        +3
        Quote: kirieeleyson
        wink This is how our people should be afraid and hate in order to shy away from our symbols of victory over fascism like this. People in the Dnieper need to really think about what kind of snakes they had warmed in the control rooms, because all anti-Russian rhetoric will lead to Bandera’s isolation from the Russian world, and Geyrope don’t need such garns for free, there are enough of their gypsies.

        And what are you surprised at? You read the history of Ukraine. What is there to think about if ancient Ukrainians registered in my head? They already have two generations, which at school weaned to think. Their only chance to learn to think is the effective management of the new government, but it will be soon.
        1. kirieeleyson
          kirieeleyson April 9 2014 17: 12
          +6
          Well, ancient Ukrainians - this is of course an incredible archaeological find, I suppose they can’t cover their entire layer of historical heritage without a gorilka lol
          I’m worried about something else - well, these ignoramuses without higher education, they taught them instead of normal textbooks, but what about those who are older, who at universities and under the USSR everyone remembers how they began on this obscene path, which at times It will be broken by any winner of the Olympiad in secondary school in a hypothetical debate .. These are where they look, robbed loot, marauders chtol everything, it turns out?
          1. nahalenok911
            nahalenok911 April 9 2014 17: 56
            +5
            I already wrote about this, but I want to say it again: in Crimea, the curriculum throughout the years of Ukraine’s independence has been the same as on the mainland. But how different are the outbursts of hearts of these generations!
            1. Thompson
              Thompson April 9 2014 18: 22
              0
              Exactly! Sweetheart, then, gives them insides, not education.
      2. Mikros
        Mikros April 9 2014 17: 24
        +10
        The fascists of St. George's Flowers were afraid in 1945, they were afraid in 2014 and let them tremble forever.
    5. podpolkovnik
      podpolkovnik April 9 2014 16: 00
      +8
      [quote = olegglin] Deputy Governor of Dnepropetrovsk Svyatoslav Oleinik commented ... on the social network Facebook: "... we are all people, and yesterday, when I saw these Berkut workers with Putin's ribbons in the courtyard of the ODA, .... I realized that, actually, I can't turn my back on them and feel safe ..... ".

      As for turning your back - sir, you cheated something, you have to turn your back to these, and to your Kiev friends and friends with gayro request py ...
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    7. dimdimich71
      dimdimich71 April 9 2014 16: 07
      +4
      You smell bastard whose meat you ate
    8. acute
      acute April 9 2014 16: 21
      +11
      the most unpleasant thing in this story is that apparently everything will go the second way. This means that Russia was harassed by the Crimea, that in the southeast, not everything is as transparent as in Crimea, the protesters do not have financial support, there is no unity, there is no such support from Russia, and most likely the Kiev authorities will crush the working southeast. But there is another way: the entry of the Russian army into Ukraine, which will be regarded as aggression and what it will lead to, one god knows. very sorry and insulting for the Donetsk people, who essentially cut off their paths to retreat. They were prompted by the indifference of the Kiev authorities, imbued with the ideas of fascism and hatred of everything Russian. Russia should at least prevent these people from being trampled on international platforms. It is necessary to organize the receipt of financial resources or donations to the fund of these heroic people, the delivery of humanitarian supplies, the delivery of volunteers from Russian regions
      1. Tersky
        Tersky April 9 2014 16: 56
        +2
        Quote: akut
        This means that Russia was hunted for the Crimea,

        The right scared crow is not afraid of the bush, it burns it out of the flamethrower. Not to, but not to. So we won’t be for Russia .. it’s a little strange to draw conclusions like that ..
    9. Coffee_time
      Coffee_time April 9 2014 16: 24
      +26
      Here is our answer
    10. HAM
      HAM April 9 2014 16: 24
      +3
      All these "mordayaschiki" (ie facebook) are reporting authorities to the owners of the authorities of Ukraine, and not only her! As soon as he farted: immediately to the "face book" - to report, and suddenly it did not reach Washington !!
    11. AleksPol
      AleksPol April 9 2014 16: 29
      +12
      Each measures on its own. This is not Putin’s ribbons but a symbol reminiscent of the valor and courage of Russian soldiers
    12. Stanislas
      Stanislas April 9 2014 16: 39
      +3
      Quote: olegglin
      I can’t turn my back on them and feel safe
      In fact, you can turn your back on these guys, but you don’t need to turn around, then it won’t be scary.
    13. Tersky
      Tersky April 9 2014 16: 40
      +9
      Quote: olegglin
      Apparently I am finally becoming a Bandera. "

      If you are afraid of people with St. George’s ribbon, you finally became him, and don’t become, ugly ..
    14. lukke
      lukke April 9 2014 16: 45
      +6
      I realized that, in fact, I can’t turn my back on them
      fooled cardboard, it’s dangerous for Avakov to turn his back, and a soldier will not offend a child)))
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    16. Polarfox
      Polarfox April 9 2014 16: 49
      +2
      It is them that they are going to be fired as not inspiring confidence in Washington's puppets. Sorry guys. Or maybe it’s for the better, they will become free people, not obliged to support all the nonsense of the so-called "government".
    17. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 April 9 2014 16: 50
      +2
      Quote: olegglin
      I will feel a sense of danger emanating from them

      Maidan urki guard you. Not free of course. The last panties you give
    18. katastrofa
      katastrofa April 9 2014 17: 18
      +1
      not some, but almost the entire staff of the Dnepropetrovsk ATC
    19. ksendzov1971
      ksendzov1971 April 9 2014 17: 49
      0
      So let him wait when his Bandera ....
    20. Max alex
      Max alex April 9 2014 17: 54
      +4
      Indeed, the eastern regions of Ukraine, or rather, the simple people who rush from morning till night for kopeypi, are already tired of this division of power in the country between the same !!! all who are in power, one kodlo !!! but none of them thought about the people and will not think !!! eastern regions, that is, the people who work have at least some kind of work and are very hard, drags the whole country on themselves !!! where do pensions, benefits, scholarships and other material assistance from the western regions come from? everything is provided by the people living in the eastern regions of Ukraine ,,, based on this, and let those who think for European integration especially think
    21. oblako
      oblako April 9 2014 18: 03
      +2
      What did he want? The golden eagle has passed ... Now turn around and wait, and the end will come anyway. Yes, in this story saying "A" not to say "B" unfortunately is not possible. It is impossible to tolerate a gang of Benderaites with territorial claims in the future, with atomic ambitions and aggressive rhetoric of the leaders. Israel tolerates no less, realizing that the opposite may mean. It is important to do this with a minimum of blood, and here information operations are needed, and we are not conducting them now. It is important to understand that the war is already on our territory, no matter what they say. There are no fixed and prescribed boundaries between us, and this is a mutually dangerous situation.
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    23. papas-57
      papas-57 April 9 2014 18: 06
      +2
      "Apparently I am finally becoming a Bandera." Why lie to yourself and others, you have become a Bandera long ago. So be afraid of everyone and everything, and do not forget to dress and change diapers on time.
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    25. wow
      wow April 9 2014 18: 51
      0
      Your place underground, at a depth of 1,5m. Be afraid, be afraid !!!
    26. Nick
      Nick April 9 2014 19: 28
      0
      Quote: olegglin
      anywhere, when faced with people wearing these ribbons, I will feel a sense of danger emanating from them. Apparently I am finally becoming a Bandera member "

      No, you finally quarrel with your own mind ... You need to be friends with your head ... fool
    27. Walk
      Walk April 9 2014 19: 54
      0
      Why are you becoming? You always have been.
  2. Stiletto
    Stiletto April 9 2014 15: 43
    +17
    So, on the eve of the founding of the Donetsk People’s Republic in an interview with KM.RU, a prominent Donetsk “regional” Nikolai Levchenko urged fellow countrymen to “not substitute” him with colleagues, who supposedly plan to resolve the issue thoughtfully and legally.

    ... that is, to merge, translated into literary Russian.
    1. Humpty
      Humpty April 9 2014 15: 57
      +3
      Deputies hold on to the feeding trough, the same propelled Tsarev is like Kernes / 2.
      1. nahalenok911
        nahalenok911 April 9 2014 18: 05
        0
        The same feeling ...
  3. torrr38_41
    torrr38_41 April 9 2014 15: 44
    +7
    Vladimir Putin, in turn, saying “a” in the history of the Crimea, will inevitably have to say “b”.

    Well, why? There are many more letters and sounds. laughing
    1. vadson
      vadson April 9 2014 16: 19
      +6
      if only there was no sound in a puddle. I really don't want this
  4. smel
    smel April 9 2014 15: 45
    +14
    East - good luck in their difficult confrontation. Everyone, including Europe, will be against federalization. After all, then it was the Europeans who would have to feed the Ukrainian west. After all, the next step of the East will be towards Russia
    1. vadson
      vadson April 9 2014 16: 21
      +3
      Quote: smel
      East - good luck in their difficult confrontation. Everyone, including Europe, will be against federalization. After all, then it was the Europeans who would have to feed the Ukrainian west. After all, the next step of the East will be towards Russia

      Well, yes, in Europe they expect that everything will be the other way around, and it will be their Ukraine that will feed them, a herd of frightened sheep
  5. GREAT RUSSIA
    GREAT RUSSIA April 9 2014 15: 46
    +7
    There is no third: the Ukrainian South-East will either be with Russia or will drown in blood
    It was for this purpose that it rebelled against separatism and fascism, Russia's help is a matter of time. And I’m sure it will come with a 95% probability in the form of tanks, armored personnel carriers and military personnel of the army of the Russian Federation.
    1. ASASHOKA
      ASASHOKA April 9 2014 16: 55
      +1
      Now the situation with Transnistria has become complicated, with oxygen blocked from Moldova and Ukraine. If they rise, there will be a completely different situation in this Europe.
    2. Max alex
      Max alex April 9 2014 18: 09
      +6
      really ,, everything will come in due time !!! in Crimea, he invests 12 billion greens on the development of the resort area only, man !! Chechen!!! so that in Crimea there will be order !! and the Crimean Tatars will cease to engage in nonsense !! and the eastern regions will be given help! just do not have to enter tanks and armored personnel carriers ,,, you can quickly and by landing and catch all the renegades who seized power and then all calm down !!! the people of Ukraine need peace and stability, constant work and a good salary, the availability of normal products and normal prices, confidence in tomorrow and even after tomorrow !!! so that children can be sent on vacation and not worry, and they will also go somewhere abroad to take a walk! and these massacres for lust and mess ordinary people do not need and ordinary people do not !!! ordinary people think how to feed a family !!
      1. Saratoga833
        Saratoga833 April 9 2014 19: 31
        0
        What have you done for this? Are you waiting for all the good uncle Putin?
        1. Max alex
          Max alex April 9 2014 20: 13
          +1
          although I’m trying to explain to many here on Ukran that evil should not be sought in Russia, it’s just enough to turn on the brains and really look at what is happening in Ukraine and understand who is who and what needs to be ,,, disabled
      2. Admin 54
        Admin 54 April 9 2014 22: 11
        0
        and no one has canceled optics with a butt
  6. Monk
    Monk April 9 2014 15: 46
    +12
    The best option now is to help the Southeast create its own, independent of Ukraine, autonomous republic, and then we will see.
  7. MolGro
    MolGro April 9 2014 15: 47
    +29
    Ban Ki-moon, after the Soviet Union collapsed, Ukraine did not deign to conduct and properly register with the UN the demarcation of its borders as a state ...
    So the question of the border is open))
    Even legally through the UN we are right!
    1. Humpty
      Humpty April 9 2014 16: 24
      +4
      The map is outdated; Crimea is not in business with it.
    2. acute
      acute April 9 2014 16: 25
      +5
      It seems to me that way, but you hurried with Dnipropetrovsk. Something is not heard about them.
    3. Tersky
      Tersky April 9 2014 16: 44
      +8
      Quote: MolGro
      So the question of the border is open))

      Even yellow dohren, in theory only the Lviv region should be painted over by them, otherwise it would be painfully unbuttoned by the banderlogs, there will be enough morons of the farmyard graveyard. As they explained to people, sit on the ass evenly, sow wheat, raise children, but do not dream about nats and nes.
      Avaricious pays twice, stupid - three times, sucker- constantly. And Crimea repainted to the color of Russia a month ago should have ...
      1. koshh
        koshh April 10 2014 00: 57
        +1
        Quote: Tersky
        Even yellow dohren, in theory only the Lviv region should be painted over by them

        Ever since the time of Catherine, Golitsa and the Lviv region were Russian lands and settled by Russians. Catherine allowed the Poles to settle in Lviv. Here they climbed and mixed with someone (apparently not very normal), degenerated Western Ukrainians.
      2. koshh
        koshh April 10 2014 01: 15
        0
        Quote: Tersky
        Even yellow dohren, in theory only the Lviv region should be painted over by them

        Ever since the time of Catherine, Golitsa and the Lviv region were Russian lands and settled by Russians. Catherine allowed the Poles to settle in Lviv. Here they climbed and mixed with someone (apparently not very normal), degenerated Western Ukrainians.
  8. Chifka
    Chifka April 9 2014 15: 48
    +8
    It is already a no brainer that the purpose of the Maidan was not to free the people from the corrupt power of the oligarchs, but to seize power by other oligarchs. Almost captured. But with the retention of the problem. "For a fool" did not work out very well. In this situation, the more often the new government will be hit by the horns, the less chance it will have to hold on. The only two problems are her use of force and the lack of an alternative to it.
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    2. gfhjkm
      gfhjkm April 9 2014 16: 04
      +7
      Why Russia is silent when they disperse a rally there, America shouted to the whole world that a peaceful rally was dispersing Yanukovych. After all, the junta perceives the silence of Moscow as a weakness.
  9. avt
    avt April 9 2014 15: 49
    +17
    “Vladimir Putin, in turn, having said“ a ”in the history of Crimea, will inevitably have to say“ b ”. I repeat, there is no other choice: after all, any step by the Kremlin aimed at curbing the initiative of those who speak on behalf of the Donetsk People's Republic today will be a fatal mistake, "-------- I'm out of my mind, and even Against the background of Crimea, I did not understand - what kind of initiative is the GDP holding back? The initiative to sit in a building? Or maybe it’s all the same to do business and really self-organize to take power and hold it, then help will be from Russia, in all possible options. just heard - send in the troops. ”Something these spells began to smell like a banal provocation and an attempt to make a full-fledged aggressor out of Russia - a fiend of evil under the screams that they will drown in blood - they really cause this blood, and the people of the East and South, with their just demand to decide their own fate , only bet in exchange. I don't like this article negative
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    2. sscha
      sscha April 9 2014 15: 58
      +4
      In simple terms, it sounds like this: "Water will not go under a lying stone." hi
    3. acute
      acute April 9 2014 16: 33
      +3
      It seems to me that you are not quite right. Those who could and wanted, they got up from their knees and cut their way back. There is simply a majority who think "let's see what happens." It's easier for us from Russia to talk about it, but where they are, you will think a hundred times. They have families and children there. Can you imagine to what a boil a person must be brought to put on this altar everything that he has dear
      1. nahalenok911
        nahalenok911 April 9 2014 18: 24
        +2
        So, the boiling point has not yet been reached! And from here doubts arise. We who are discussing these topics more boil ... say, from a house where quiet and children laugh, hearty, comfortable ...
  10. Hans51
    Hans51 April 9 2014 15: 49
    +32
    Brothers, hold on !!!
  11. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 April 9 2014 15: 51
    +34
    The answer to the Nazis

    The Nazis will not be brothers to us
    Neither in the Homeland, nor in the mother!
    You have no spirit to be free -
    We will not even become consolidated with you.

    Your horror movies are not scary for us
    We are with the stars, you are with the swastika!
    Maydanut you faceless.
    It is we, not you, who are great.

    From inferiority and dullness
    You have done so many nonsense!
    And you shot at your back
    How to call you? Perhaps pigs?

    Yarosh, Bily and other bastard
    You Europe brain confused.
    On the Maidan they watered potions.
    You burned your "Berkut" with "cocktails"!

    You are with your bastard Bandera,
    Well - with the holy Fatherland and faith!
    You whine without knowing
    You are with war, and we are with victory!

    Tearing from the West you horde
    But our business is right!
    If now with regards to Russians -
    That we never give up.

    Your Rada is egg-headed
    Not the last, and not new.
    Steals everything to the last,
    Leave the poor poor!

    How wrong were you with the right sector
    Ordinary and vector.
    Shed blood - wash yourselves,
    Then you will not hide from reckoning.

    You who raised the country to the knives
    The words of reason not understood!
    Run - help!
    God will not repay without our help!

    You have no spirit to be free -
    We will not even become consolidated with you.
    The Nazis will not be brothers to us
    Neither in the Homeland, nor in the mother!

    Ilya Kulev

    Ust-Kamenogorsk,
    The Republic of Kazakhstan
  12. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov April 9 2014 15: 51
    +13
    Will Moscow be able to do it, heed those promises that come from there? And the population of the Southeast has repeatedly appealed to the Russian authorities.
    And what to do ... we have no other choice. Looks like Russia’s fate is so troubled forever it’s necessary to protect someone to save the world .. As they say it’s necessary so it is necessary .. We will not die alive! True men!
  13. mamont5
    mamont5 April 9 2014 15: 53
    0
    “Vladimir Putin, in turn, having said“ a ”in the history of Crimea, will inevitably have to say“ b. ”I repeat, there is no other choice: after all, any step by the Kremlin aimed at curbing the initiative of those who today speak on behalf of Donetsk the people's republic, will become a fatal mistake, In fact, it will simply untie the hands of those who are even now ready to pour blood into the Donbass, Slobozhanshchina, Zaporozhye. "
    Yes, now you can’t retreat. Or, in any way, force Kiev to retreat and recognize the right of people to choose their country of residence and system in that country or to send troops.
  14. Belarus
    Belarus April 9 2014 15: 53
    +9
    The GDP is now in a difficult situation in my opinion. If you essentially betray the Russian-speaking population, you can always lose respect and support in many countries and not only in Ukraine.
    The most important thing priority was the Russian-speaking population in Ukraine, and you can not turn off the intended path otherwise the scribe.
    1. Manul
      Manul April 9 2014 17: 30
      +2
      Quote: Belarus
      that the Russian-speaking population was a priority

      Not only Russian-speaking, but also pro-Russian. I am a Ukrainian who does not know Russian, but sees us as one, if not a country, then a common territory, he will always be sweet. True, I only hope that there are such ...
  15. Sergei75
    Sergei75 April 9 2014 15: 54
    +13
    It is half the battle to seize the building and declare itself the new people's power, it is necessary to begin to give orders to the security forces, if one of the leaders does not follow this order, immediately issue a document on removal of authority from him, expulsion from the office and appointment of his own to this post.
    It is necessary to block administrative borders, and if the protesting regions are nearby, it is necessary to jointly guard the external borders, declare the territory of the federation without a flight zone, and block all airfields.
    It’s necessary to act, and so you can get bogged down in negotiations, the brown ones drag the time.
  16. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m April 9 2014 15: 55
    +6
    Experience in Ukraine does not hold. Here is an interesting selection of declassified documents from the war: http://mil.ru/files/morf/una.pdf
  17. mig31
    mig31 April 9 2014 15: 57
    +5
    Remember Panfilovtsev? !! ..... nowhere to retreat, behind Moscow .... Southeast step taken, how are we? ..
  18. sm00vik
    sm00vik April 9 2014 15: 57
    +3
    Yes. Indeed, our president has a difficult choice. As it was said "A" - will "B" follow? There is a lot at stake. On the one hand, this is the desire to satisfy our imperial ambitions, on the other hand, it is a world-scale confrontation when we sacrifice our economic and political well-being for the sake of reuniting with our brothers Slavs. The current leadership of Ukraine behaves like the last prostitute, which is danced by all and sundry. And today I wish the resolution of the conflict that has arisen only by peaceful means, understanding how this peace can cost dearly to all parties.
  19. ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 April 9 2014 15: 57
    +3
    Vladimir Putin, in turn, saying “a” in the history of the Crimea, will inevitably have to say “b”.
    He will not say in the first. All our Enemies will disappear. Russia is becoming stronger and more united than ever. People are simply eager for Russia! In such a situation, provoking or making fun of Russia is not only not appropriate, but also mortally dangerous.
  20. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad April 9 2014 15: 59
    +8
    Quote: alex-s
    How the devil incense shy away from St. George's ribbons - idiocy to the highest degree!

    And - very good! The St. George ribbon also becomes a symbol of a new, growing Russia.
    Yes, events are brewing ...
  21. Vorodis_vA
    Vorodis_vA April 9 2014 16: 00
    +3
    all is well, that’s ending well ... let’s hope for a peaceful scenario of independence, Kiev will fall itself, it is necessary to demoralize and discriminate fascists
  22. polite people
    polite people April 9 2014 16: 02
    +9
    Yes, why do they shy away as a devil from incense, because St. George is a symbol of VICTORY.
  23. Jogan-xnumx
    Jogan-xnumx April 9 2014 16: 03
    +3
    ... despite the presence in the list of candidates of such a character as Oleg Tsarev, who among the pro-Russian vector’s supporters is considered “to his own board”

    Bullshit!!!
    Dnepropetrovsk "regional" Oleg TSAREV townspeople know well. And not only as the owner of the bakery, where, probably, the worst bread in the region is baked. And not even so much as the owner of the "paper mill", where before the elections "leftist" propaganda leaflets were "stamped" with tons that "the people will live well tomorrow!" People's Deputy TSAREV is better known for being an extremely glamorous guy. Who flickers daily in the "box" as "something somewhere."

    He also likes to be praised by voters. For this purpose, he simply "registered" on some local TV channels. Telling fairy tales for adults about how he helped no one knows who and no one knows how in 1917. Moreover, the themes for self-promotion from TSARKA (such a nickname was given to him by the "grateful" residents of Dnipropetrovsk. - Author) are different, but the essence is the same. Constantly remind the electorate that, they say, there is such a "kindly prince" who wants to do more for the people, but everything hinders him. As is usually the case with some dancers. Or "someone someone" does not allow the "poor and humble bourgeois" to build ... communism.

    In all the "troubles of the people" the white-blue People's Deputy blames either the "damned Banderaites", then the "wrong communists", or the "unfinished Basmachi". True, no one can forbid to live beautifully for TsARKA himself. And nothing seems to interfere. So recently in Crimea he bought himself a "khatynka" for almost nothing. For a summer residence. In Soviet times, it was a trade union health resort. And even earlier, the buildings of the sanatorium were the property of the princesses Baryatinskaya and Dolgoruka. And now they are listed as monuments of history and architecture. And, according to realtors, they "pull" at least 30 million hryvnia. The new owner got this sanatorium in the center of Yalta, designed for 612 beds, for a pittance. As well as more than 7 hectares of land on which this "monument" stands.

    Who cares, completely here: http://politrada.com/dossier/persone/id/3962
    1. AVIATOR36662
      AVIATOR36662 April 9 2014 20: 15
      0
      Do you currently have a more decent candidate? Who do you prefer? Will you wait for the applicant with the slogans of Sharikov? They will no longer be there, the list of candidates is closed.
      1. Jogan-xnumx
        Jogan-xnumx April 9 2014 22: 49
        0
        Even answer your fool pointless. What other election candidates ???
  24. Evgeniy-111
    Evgeniy-111 April 9 2014 16: 04
    +3
    It is not necessary to fill the Southeast with blood: if Russia does not intervene, they will arrest all those who are more or less active, after the elections they will release them and wave their goodbyes with a pen.
    Such republics must be organized QUICKLY, and not demand something daily from Kiev!
  25. -SHADOW-
    -SHADOW- April 9 2014 16: 04
    +28
    I CAN’T UNDERSTAND ... THE MAIDAN WAS IN KIEV AND THE PEOPLE STARTED,
    And do we have in the south-east who? ...
    IF YOU ATTEMPT TO DEFEND YOUR POINT OF VIEW THAT GOES AGAINST OLIGARCHES IN THE RADA - ALL YOU ARE ALREADY
    EXTREMIST AND TERRORIST AND FOR YOU ARTICLE Cries up to 15 years in prison (((
    HOW TIRED WHEN THE BRAINS ARE POWDERED ... AFTER THE DISPOSAL OF THE USSR, FALSE IS ALL FURNISHED WITH EVERY ELECTION COMPANY
    Opposite
    1. Luga
      Luga April 9 2014 17: 55
      +1
      Quote: -SHAD-
      I CAN’T UNDERSTAND ... THE MAIDAN WAS IN KIEV AND THE PEOPLE STARTED,
      And do we have in the south-east who? ...

      You are just so upset ... It's not unusual - the usual European double standards, which have always been applied to the Slavs in general and the Russians in particular. Not used to it yet? Do not worry, get used to it. In Europe, still moving fellow

      Do not be offended, I'm from evil. He himself was always enraged by such an attitude towards others and towards himself. I understand you. If I offended - I apologize.
    2. AVIATOR36662
      AVIATOR36662 April 9 2014 20: 21
      +1
      So the Security Service of Ukraine, in fact, led this Maidan coup, they invited snipers from the outside, there simply is no other option! It is the Security Service of Ukraine that is now clearing SE of Ukraine from those who disagree with the junta! The main instigators of the bloody junta are now at the head of the Ukrainian law enforcement agencies. They and laws are being driven to suppress dissent. But it's not yet evening.
  26. Dmitro_d
    Dmitro_d April 9 2014 16: 05
    +1
    No guessing! May, the month in which the fate of not only Ukraine is decided, but how much Russia !!!!!
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 April 9 2014 16: 11
      0
      yours is already decided .. you don’t confuse us with a loshara ..
  27. VengefulRat
    VengefulRat April 9 2014 16: 07
    +8
    Hopes and aspirations of the people of the South-East. He takes for the soul.

  28. Monk
    Monk April 9 2014 16: 07
    +7
    I would give the following advice to Russian President Putin: without hesitation in sending troops to the eastern regions of Ukraine, Kharkov, Lugansk and Donetsk, to ensure the safety of our compatriots - requiring a referendum on the status of these regions. People do not want to remain part of Ukrainian statehood. And they are forced to.

    These are Ukrainians and Russians, the population of the regions, the children of Russia in fact, her flesh from the flesh and blood from the blood, she, Mother Russia, is responsible for them. Mothers should come to the aid of children.
    E. Limonov


    What happened to Limonov? Or is this just the case when becoming an oppositionist, you do not stop being a patriot of the motherland?
    1. AVIATOR36662
      AVIATOR36662 April 9 2014 20: 24
      0
      It is just that most of the demands of these comrades for power fully correspond to the demands on it of the entire working people of Russia.
  29. afdjhbn67
    afdjhbn67 April 9 2014 16: 09
    +1
    Quote: olegglin
    In Dnepropetrovsk, some policemen guarding the local regional administration tied St. George's ribbons on the uniform. This caused hysteria among local Ukrainian patriots. The deputy governor of Dnipropetrovsk Svyatoslav Oleinik, who is in charge of coordinating the work of law enforcement agencies, commented ... on the social network Facebook: "... we are all people, and yesterday, when I saw these Berkut workers with Putin's ribbons in the courtyard of the ODA, I understood for sure that I did not want so that they guard us .... I realized that, in fact, I cannot turn my back on them and feel safe. I am afraid that in any place, when faced with people who are wearing these ribbons, I will feel a sense of danger emanating from them. Apparently, I am finally becoming a Bandera. " soldier if you took a step, don’t look back ... you’ve always been a teacher, so don’t restrain yourself exposing yourself .. am

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  30. dikir-77
    dikir-77 April 9 2014 16: 10
    +6
    That damn these experts themselves is not funny? Everyone knows what and how to do Putin.
    Do you have a melaphone to read his mind?
    The answer to all events will be sure unexpected and unpredictable.
    1. plotnikov561956
      plotnikov561956 April 9 2014 16: 30
      +5
      Quote: dikir-77
      That damn these experts themselves is not funny? Everyone knows what and how to do Putin.
      Do you have a melaphone to read his mind?
      The answer to all events will be sure unexpected and unpredictable.

      100% solidarity ...! The whole world recognized the grandmaster class of V.V. Putin in geopolitics, but however, everyone continues to guess on the coffee grounds and predict future actions .. Holy naivety, no need to be led to this, an empty lesson ... Everything will again be unexpected, unpredictable, unique and like thunder from a clear sky! Honestly, he takes pride in such a President ...
  31. polite people
    polite people April 9 2014 16: 11
    +7
    They are already turning into devils.
    There are only sodomites in power.
    And by us God.
  32. Arkan
    Arkan April 9 2014 16: 13
    +2
    Article minus. No need to call for a civil war. That hundred people in Donetsk, not all of Donbass.
  33. Isk1984
    Isk1984 April 9 2014 16: 14
    +4
    Limonov has never been a liberal, as for his internal visions of the internal structure of Russia, this is an internal dispute, so to speak, that everyone has, and he always kicks the United States about the foreign policy and kicked the expansion of the Russian world. Limonov is not Kasparov, let's say the political left marginal ...
  34. Sochi
    Sochi April 9 2014 16: 17
    +21
    Believe in Putin
    1. Tektor
      Tektor April 9 2014 16: 35
      +5
      The problem is that more than $ 140 billion of debts "hang" in Ukraine, and it is necessary to make sure that they are hung on the last "who did not have time to leave" Ukraine, and not on the Russian Federation. If we start sending troops, the world community will scream about aggression, and Ukraine's debts will hang on us. The only way is the signing by the regions of Ukraine of an agreement like the Belovezhsky agreement on the self-dissolution of Ukraine "with the forgiveness of debts", the alternative is the secession of the regions from Ukraine one by one, then the debt will hang on Kiev.
      1. Sochi
        Sochi April 9 2014 17: 58
        +3
        I agree, and I think that Putin’s team is not stupid, and they have calculated various situations, options for influencing them and the consequences.
      2. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru April 9 2014 18: 44
        +1
        Quote: Tektor
        the withdrawal of regions from Ukraine in turn, then debt will hang in Kiev.

        Cleverly!
  35. polite people
    polite people April 9 2014 16: 21
    +18
    Russians have someone to take an example from.
    Glory to the Donbass.
    The Spartans could fight ... And the Russians are even better!
    The two thousandth army of the Poles could not break the detachment of 42 Russian hussars and force them to surrender. Even when only 7 remained capable of fighting, they rushed to the attack again and again and forced 40 to retreat several times the superior enemy forces ... This legendary battle took place near the village of Sendzieowice a little more than 150 years ago, in 1863.
    Emboldened by the Poles, they surrounded a small detachment of persecutors, promising the "gentry brothers" a life for extraditing the Cossacks and switching to their side. Those in response ... attacked the enemy.
    The Poles attacked several times, each time in the belief that victory was already in their hands. The Russians, who lacked ammunition, were ordered not to shoot otherwise than point blank. Each time the attack was met with grave silence, and each time the Poles could not stand it: in 20 steps turning their horses, they received several shots after them.
    Repulsing the continuous attacks of the enemy, the thinned squad of brave men, carrying the wounded, slowly, step by step, went to the cemetery. Seeing this, two Polish squadrons rushed into the quarry.
    - We closed again, lay in a road ditch and waited. The minute was solemn! The last act of the fight, it seemed, had already begun ... but this handful of people was evidently looking too formidable: in 15 steps the squadrons turned back again, again got several shots after them, and we freely occupied the cemetery, ”said one of the volunteers.
    “Only the Spartans could fight like that,” said the Poles.
    The Polish cavalry and infantry continuously, in waves, rolled on a handful of brave men, but could not approach this remnant of wounded soldiers. Commander Alexander Grabbe, having received several more wounds, the donkey, bleeding to the ground with a bullet broken in the spine, but did not let go of his arms prepared for the last battle. Alexander Nikolaevich Vitmer, Lieutenant of the Life Guards of the Grodno Hussar Regiment, who took over command of the remaining detachment, counted those who were able to fight: 2 officers, 3 line-up and 2 bottom.
    Desperate to break the wounded Russians, the gentry drove the peasants from the nearest villages and drove the crowd around them. In the hope that the last bullets and blades of the heroes get bogged down in the mass of this detachment.
    Seeing that even the wounded could not be saved, the soldiers fired the last “salvo” with the last two bullets. After that, the remnants of the Russians capable of holding weapons rushed at the enemy ...
    Almost all the hussars and Cossacks, while beating their hands, clutching the blades, had a place for a wave, died. When the main forces of the Grodno Hussars regiment entered the village of Sendzieowice, they found alive some of the mortally wounded heroes, including commander A.P. Grabbe. Grabbe, having gathered the rest of his strength, in a weak voice, but calmly spoke about the glorious defense of his associates, keeping silent about himself as usual. The 25-year-old hero will die the next morning, repeating all this time in delirium: "Give me my horse, I need to ride ... fly ..."
    soldier
  36. xbhxbr-777
    xbhxbr-777 April 9 2014 16: 21
    +2
    EAST UKRAINE needs to unite, which they will do, then they are strong, but for now, each on their own, really can't be together? Then Russia will help. request
  37. Ross
    Ross April 9 2014 16: 23
    0
    Quote: svetlomor
    Vladimir Putin, in turn, saying “a” in the history of the Crimea, will inevitably have to say “b”.
    I'm afraid to even think about what will happen when Putin says "I".

    Now imagine what to do with this part of the population if the Southwest joins Russia? Create concentration camps? To evict to Kiev? The question is not simple.
    Maybe for re-education, like MAO?
  38. Luga
    Luga April 9 2014 16: 24
    +10
    An optimistic article. Kherson, Nikolaev, Odessa, Zaporozhye. Even if "clean" referendums are held in these regions, it is not a fact that they will want to join us, not to mention that it will be simply impossible to hold a "clean" referendum there. For the creation of the federation - yes, perhaps they will vote, for the accession - I doubt it.
    Now about the main thing. The southeast is not Crimea, it will not work to isolate itself from the rest of Ukraine, so everything will be decided on city streets and squares. And, most likely, with weapons, because Kiev is not going to give in, even if they promise a new constitution, they will not give up real power on the ground, which means that all their promises are worthless - they will cancel and replay everything in their own way as soon as they want.
    A war, with shooting, blood and subsequent devastation, is inevitable, it seems. The only way to avoid the massacre is a complete and unconditional victory of one of the parties in the near future.
    I do not want to consider the option of the victory of Kiev, but even this option is better (yes, better) than a full-scale war on the streets of Lugansk, Donetsk and Kharkov. This is exactly what our Western partners expect from us, this is exactly what Kiev is pushing from the shtat.
    And what needs to be done to defeat ours?
    The first is an idea, a conviction of one’s rightness. It is.
    The second is organization, subordination structure, command hierarchy. Roughly speaking, to teach people to walk in formation. Yes, exactly as the right sector does. How much did these scumbags learn in the camps? Years? And ours to go this way in the shortest possible time. Cope?
    The third is personnel. Commanders. Leaders. Where can I get them? This is where General Lebed would come in handy. "I have breakfast in Donetsk, lunch in Kiev, dinner in Brussels." Do we have such now? One thing is for sure - you need to look for among the Ukrainian generals who served in the "Independent" and dropped out of the pack. For example, a former fleet commander. (Do not offer the former president).
    And the fourth, probably the most important thing is money. The army needs to be fed, moved, armed, treated, equipped with checkpoints, garrisons, etc. Who will give this money? There are no oligarchs for ours; hope is only for Russia.
    Four points. And these points should have been yesterday. And this is the minimum that came to mind now. The East catastrophically does not have time and no one will give them the time to do all this.
    And how do you want to read, hear in the news tomorrow, that the police went over to the anti-Maidan side, the military refused to speak out against the people, checkpoints were established on the borders of the region, the three regions merged into a single republic ...
  39. Oml
    Oml April 9 2014 16: 25
    +6
    The South-East must now take special care of its leaders and activists. The fascist leadership of Ukraine may begin a "hunt" for them. And they can undertake any provocations and methods.
  40. hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh April 9 2014 16: 30
    +4
    The posters need the statements of the current leadership of Kiev when they demanded not to tighten the punishment of the rioters and release the demonstrators from prisons.
  41. Barakuda
    Barakuda April 9 2014 16: 33
    +12
    Quote: -SHAD-
    I CAN’T UNDERSTAND ... THE MAIDAN WAS IN KIEV AND THE PEOPLE STARTED,
    And do we have in the south-east who? ...
    IF YOU ATTEMPT TO DEFEND YOUR POINT OF VIEW THAT GOES AGAINST OLIGARCHES IN THE RADA - ALL YOU ARE ALREADY
    EXTREMIST AND TERRORIST AND FOR YOU ARTICLE Cries up to 15 years in prison (((
    HOW TIRED WHEN THE BRAINS ARE POWDERED ... AFTER THE DISPOSAL OF THE USSR, FALSE IS ALL FURNISHED WITH EVERY ELECTION COMPANY
    Opposite

    The wrong word! And to all.
    On the 1st Maidan they shouted - Over Mosol, Kravchuk. Communist Kravchuk became president. Separated, it brought the country to a pen. Refusal from nuclear weapons, hyperinflation
    Then the baton was passed to the communist Kuchma. The United States was bending down the country as best they could, the decline of many strategic sales markets and the closure of many enterprises, "privatization".
    Then the American henchman Yushchenko, the 2nd Maidan. Bender and Shukhevych began to erect monuments and distribute heroes.
    Further Yanyk. With his theft and extortion, he put an end to himself.
    Waited for the 3rd Maidan-the Nazis in practice.
    WHERE ARE WE BEFORE WERE AND WHERE VOTED FOR? Silently at home, maybe blow it ..
    1. klopik
      klopik April 9 2014 17: 03
      +2
      we voted for those who promised friendship with Russia .... but there was a special choice? I didn’t see a choice and now I don’t see ... no one to choose
    2. pogis
      pogis April 9 2014 17: 10
      0
      Yanek will arrive on the tank! 100% he will be there where everything is under control of some forces! And then a matter of technology.
    3. avia1991
      avia1991 April 9 2014 18: 19
      +2
      [quote = Baracuda] [quote = -SHAD-]
      Waited for the 3rd Maidan-the Nazis in practice.
      WHERE ARE WE BEFORE WERE AND WHERE VOTED FOR? Silently at home, maybe blow it .. [/ quote]
      hi Hats off, Baracuda. But how many people understand that for some changes in society you need to start, first of all, with yourself? Most find it easier to find the guilty party! And I won’t be surprised if there are really many in the Southeast now who blame Russia for their troubles. Not the majority, of course .. but there is no such unanimous desire to reunite as it was in Crimea. Like a general opinion ..
  42. Kuvabatake
    Kuvabatake April 9 2014 16: 34
    +4
    It is difficult and unequivocal for them. Not everyone wants to return to Russia, like the Crimeans. This is a snag.
  43. gladysheff2010
    gladysheff2010 April 9 2014 16: 40
    +2
    I don’t like it so much, when for some reason, it is Russia who is faced with the choice — we made our choice long ago — Putin is our President, but others who calmly watched how they plundered their own country — why they were silent, sat in the shade, my hut with to the edge ... ???!
    1. nahalenok911
      nahalenok911 April 9 2014 19: 13
      0
      +100500 !!! Trite, but in a different way to express my consent with you, gladysheff2010, I can not!
  44. Nitarius
    Nitarius April 9 2014 16: 45
    +1
    Yes, for Putin now is a DIFFICULT TIME!
    and he gets a decision ---- HOW LIFE IS DISPOSED, GUYS IN THE Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
    BUT the question is complicated!
    1. Vesnik
      Vesnik April 9 2014 17: 11
      0
      Nothing complicated.
      If you go, you are already ready to die. An army that argues like this is not to win.
      There is a combat mission, go ahead!
  45. Barakuda
    Barakuda April 9 2014 16: 46
    +6
    Quote: Kuvabatake
    It is difficult and unequivocal for them. Not everyone wants to return to Russia, like the Crimeans. This is a snag.

    Really not all. In the Kiev region moods of about 80 to 20 in favor of banderlogs. You would look Ukrainian. the channels are Putin’s saboteurs and separatists on every corner. Spies are declassified daily, the Crimea is promised starvation, gas is not there, the drought is promised, crowds of Crimean refugees are bought up in the Lviv region. apartments and houses .. At demonstrations in Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk, all-over dressed Russian special forces ..
    They are building from Russia - ENEMY!
    1. Vesnik
      Vesnik April 9 2014 17: 06
      +7
      It's true! And there is!
      In the buildings of Lugansk, Donetsk, there is no "pro-Russian" FSB GRU Spetsnaz as media coverage of Ukraine. These are ordinary people, patriots ... Afghans, marines, miners ..
    2. Orc-xnumx
      Orc-xnumx April 9 2014 17: 45
      +2
      Quote: Barracuda
      Quote: Kuvabatake
      It is difficult and unequivocal for them. Not everyone wants to return to Russia, like the Crimeans. This is a snag.

      Really not all. In the Kiev region moods of about 80 to 20 in favor of banderlogs. You would look Ukrainian. the channels are Putin’s saboteurs and separatists on every corner. Spies are declassified daily, the Crimea is promised starvation, gas is not there, the drought is promised, crowds of Crimean refugees are bought up in the Lviv region. apartments and houses .. At demonstrations in Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk, all-over dressed Russian special forces ..
      They are building from Russia - ENEMY!

      Pupils of Dr. Goebbels!
  46. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 April 9 2014 16: 47
    +4
    I am afraid that wherever I come across people wearing these ribbons, I will feel a sense of danger coming from them. Apparently I am finally becoming a Bandera. "

    Well this is how people were brainwashed?
    Most likely - the ancestor of Bandera.
    For people whose fathers and grandfathers liberated the earth from the fascist scum, the sight of the GEORGIAN RIBBON can only evoke RESPECT and PRIDE, so whoever is afraid to "turn his back" means there is something to fear for, at the level of genetic memory.
  47. pogis
    pogis April 9 2014 16: 47
    +2
    Quote: olegglin
    In Dnepropetrovsk, some policemen guarding the local regional administration tied St. George's ribbons on the uniform. This caused hysteria among local Ukrainian patriots. The deputy governor of Dnipropetrovsk Svyatoslav Oleinik, who is in charge of coordinating the work of law enforcement agencies, commented ... on the social network Facebook: "... we are all people, and yesterday, when I saw these Berkut workers with Putin's ribbons in the courtyard of the ODA, I understood for sure that I did not want so that they guard us .... I realized that, in fact, I cannot turn my back on them and feel safe. I am afraid that in any place, when faced with people who are wearing these ribbons, I will feel a sense of danger emanating from them. Apparently, I am finally becoming a Bandera. "

    Reply

    Correctly understood!
  48. mig31
    mig31 April 9 2014 16: 52
    +3
    I’m afraid that the mercenaries and provocateurs will do their own thing, and God forbid to spill blood ... THE BLOOD OF A HUMAN DOESN'T WATER ....
  49. Barakuda
    Barakuda April 9 2014 16: 59
    +6
    "the choice was made long ago - Putin is our President,"

    And we are told that everyone in Russia hates Putin, here are friends, cougars, etc. were in Russia, they say the local population curse him on what the light is. And in general, everyone is sure that fat is in Russia - a chapel of dreams, but there is no talk of meat. And the poverty there is terrible, okromya Moscow.
    This is how propaganda works.
    1. bubalik
      bubalik April 9 2014 17: 07
      +6
      Baracuda (1) UA  Today, 16: 59
      And we are told that everyone in Russia hates Putin, here are friends, cougars, etc. were in Russia, they say the local population curse him on what the light is. And in general, everyone is sure that fat is in Russia - a chapel of dreams, but there is no talk of meat. And the poverty there is terrible, besides Moscow
      tin-plate recourse

      ,,, and we are also waiting for spring to cook soup from young nettles and bake quinoa cakes laughing
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  50. mabuta
    mabuta April 9 2014 17: 00
    +8
    Tear it! Be sure to tear it!