Protesters announced the creation of the Parliament of the Lugansk Republic

Near the building of the Security Service of Ukraine in the Luhansk region, captured by pro-Russian activists, the rally continues. People who have seized the building are strengthening the barricades. They were fenced off with a fence, reinforced with sandbags, and the car tires folded behind it were poured with combustible mixtures.

Speakers at the rally declared that they were going to create a parliament of the Lugansk Republic, elect new people's deputies and create a new government, Interfax reports. There was also a small skirmish, as a result of which the demonstrators pushed journalists and cameramen away from the venue of the rally.

The number of protesters in front of the SBU building is constantly changing, new participants are replacing the outgoing participants. Currently, there are about three hundred people. Inside the building, according to various sources, there are still 100-200 protesters, however, the protesters themselves declare thousands of supporters inside, and also say that reinforcements from the Crimea and Zaporozhye came to their aid.

Protesters periodically chanting demands for a referendum on secession from Ukraine. They also demand the release of all the special forces “Berkut” and “Alpha” arrested for separatism, the amnesty involved in the events on Independence Square in Kiev, the cessation of political persecution, as well as a meeting with the chairman of the Lugansk Regional State Administration Mikhail Bolotskikh.

Comments

[agbykov]

From whom to demand a referendum? In Kiev junta ??? We must organize it ourselves, as we did in the Crimea.

[vadson]

you need to take control of military units, arm yourself and confront delegations from Kiev and the West. otherwise do not survive. they know that they are not going to shoot at them, by and large there’s nothing out of that, that’s the rod. when all this trash from the west rakes, it’ll climb more

[svetlomor]

It is necessary to demand the return of Yanukovych, at least somehow legal, there is nothing to lose anyway, so according to their news they shout that all this is for his money.

[gfs84]

And here I am in touch from the most independent media in the world - Ukrainian (even free of what they themselves said):
I hope that this particular news is still true ...

According to "Ukrainian Truth» the leadership of the Donetsk Republic proclaimed itself a legitimate authority at a meeting in the city regional state administration (RSA). According to the publication, a group of activists read out at a meeting in the Donetsk Regional State Administration a statement saying that they did not recognize official Kiev and consider themselves legitimate authorities. Also, the leadership of the Donetsk Republic decided to "dismiss" all the security forces and governor Sergei Taruta appointed by the central government and to appoint a referendum on self-determination of Donetsk on May 11. Activists also request the extradition of their leader, people's governor Pavel Gubarev, and demand from Ukraine the withdrawal of troops and paramilitaries.

http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2448333

Let me remind you that this very "Ukrainian truth" a few hours ago "dissolved" the people's government of Donetsk)))
Looks like the guys in the southeast explained to the editorial board of the "party policy"))))

[vlum]

Yes to this editorial staff, even sssa in the eyes - all God's dew

[Russ69]

Quote: gfs84

Looks like the guys in the southeast explained to the editorial board of the "party policy"))))

In any case, a sound decision. Now it must be implemented, and it is much more difficult.

[Lazy]

Yes! Need Yanukovych! With its help, organize a referendum and in this case it is absolutely legitimate to disconnect the entire southeast in a separate state. Well, then it will not be up to joining Russia, immediately or a little later. Need Yanukovych as a legitimate government! A handful of people who seized administrative buildings - this can be seen as separatism and hooliganism, and the army and the police will listen to a president who has not been overthrown and who is recognized (will have to be recognized at the time of the referendum). Perhaps this would be the most competent move!

[vadson]

as they say, a bridgehead is needed, otherwise Yanyku’s head will be turned off like a chicken during the night, for example, Lugansk will be repelled, you can send it, and only let it go on the belts

[Siberian19]

Lugansk is preparing for defense!

[Siberian19]

Kharkiv did not give up!

[Alekseev]

Quote: vadson

you need to take control of military units, arm yourself and confront delegations from Kiev and the West. otherwise do not survive.

That's right!
To paraphrase the great specialist in science to take power in the state of V. I. Ulyanov (Lenin): "every Donetsk (Lugansk, Donbass) republic is worth something only if it knows how to defend itself"
And it seems like in Donetsk and Lugansk, the comrades are on the right path ...
So the police for some reason do not want to storm the occupied buildings?
But Kharkov lags behind in the support of its activists (mentality, you know, not that )

[vadson]

it’s how to look, while the strength has not been mobilized enough, on both sides, let the Kharkiv distract some forces from Kiev, Nikolaev, Odessa as well, but why is Dnepropetrovsk silent? we’ll beat off Lugansk and Donetsk and you can think about Kharkov, help activists, weapons, equipment, bring a yanyk let him go as the federation promotes, self-determination. Moor must do his job. then on the carpet is his, for old merits. but even where they didn’t take up arms, it was necessary to rally the forces of the Maidan by rallies. such a peculiar trolling of level 80, during the day they took power away at night, the guards calmed down, in the morning on a new one, let them feel like a golden eagle

[Siberian19]

CROSS! Alpha will use fentanyl to storm Donetsk Regional State Administration
Guys who have a connection with the administration, pass them this information.
Warn the guys in the Donetsk Regional State Administration!
Alpha will use fentanyl!
This is a narcotic analgesic that is part of the gas that causes sleep and to whom. Let them prepare gas masks!

RSA has an underground passage with the SBU! It is from there and through the underpass that you need to wait for an attack today, and not outside! ALL who can pass - pass on to the guys. We use all the ways to communicate and convey this! http://3rm.info/45410-srochno-perepost.html

[zzz]

From Odnoklassniki, who thinks what is correct? :


Lydia Volchkova
REPOST !!! This is what a woman from Rossi wrote to me yesterday and I think she is very right. Expensive! And the insurgent Donbass understands who SHOULD ask for help? After all, Aksyonov himself proposed it. And more than once! Why? If Russia now starts supporting with its military equipment, it will be regarded by the world community as an invasion of another country ... And the beginning of World War III ... At the same time, if help comes from Crimea, which the EU and America consider Ukraine. how to object? Everything is "within the framework of one state." This must first be recognized by ALL Crimea as part of Russia, to recognize. that there was no annexation, etc., and then only an official pretext will appear to accuse Russia. And help from Crimea can be endless ... Like a magician's ribbon ... Good luck

[vadson]

if no one is already pouring blood on the conventions, where the tank came from, it won’t look, and what 3 mv from Ukraine, the Yankees said they won’t fight, they now have the task of maximum base in the east, minimum sanctions against Russia and civil war in Ukraine

[Su24]

Quote: vadson

you need to take control of military units, arm yourself and confront delegations from Kiev and the West. otherwise do not survive. they know that they are not going to shoot at them, by and large there’s nothing out of that, that’s the rod. when all this trash from the west rakes, it’ll climb more

It is necessary to demand the return of Yanukovych, at least somehow legal, there is nothing to lose anyway, so according to their news they shout that all this is for his money

"It is necessary", "it is necessary" ... You know what? We need to go to Ukraine ourselves! Unite in groups, cross the border - and in Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk. It depends on who has relatives where. The fight is already beginning to be serious.

[thrower]

They say that on someone else’s hump you can’t enter paradise.

[Siberian19]

http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/116/kdja987.jpg

[avt]

Quote: agbykov

From whom to demand a referendum? In Kiev junta ??? We must organize it ourselves, as we did in the Crimea.

Quote: vadson

you need to take control of military units, arm yourself and confront delegations from Kiev and the West. otherwise do not survive.

Again, instead of taking power - rally standing in anticipation.

Quote: Deadmen

Stood to the end!

And here the end is near. Well, really seeing that there is NO real action, maydaunas not be decided on a forceful decision!? In Kharkov, they have already shown everything HOW they will do and change all those who are hesitant for themselves, and with absolutely small forces and means. Regrettably.

[Flooding]

Quote: avt

Well, really seeing that there is NO real action, maydaunas not be decided on a forceful decision!? In Kharkov, they have already shown everything HOW they will do and change all those who are hesitant for themselves, and with absolutely small forces and means. Regrettably.

As Lev Vershinin wrote in his blog, "They will break Kharkov, negotiate with Donetsk, and they are afraid of Lugansk." In Lugansk, the men are very serious.

[Horst78]

Hmm The mood of the men seems to be really no joke. I wish them great endurance. And knowing the "fascists" more cartridges, iodine and bandages
ps I myself did not serve, but good luck.

[maks-101]

As Lev Vershinin wrote in his blog, "They will break Kharkov, negotiate with Donetsk, and they are afraid of Lugansk." In Lugansk, the men are very serious.

more such as in Lugansk.

[niki233]

Quote: avt

Quote: agbykov

From whom to demand a referendum? In Kiev junta ??? We must organize it ourselves, as we did in the Crimea.

Quote: vadson

you need to take control of military units, arm yourself and confront delegations from Kiev and the West. otherwise do not survive.

Again, instead of taking power - rally standing in anticipation.

Quote: Deadmen

Stood to the end!

And here the end is near. Well, really seeing that there is NO real action, maydaunas not be decided on a forceful decision!? In Kharkov, they have already shown everything HOW they will do and change all those who are hesitant for themselves, and with absolutely small forces and means. Regrettably.

they will crush them all individually, the southeast apparently didn’t understand that they came to kill them

[timer]

Here, in order not to be crushed, it is necessary: ​​1) to create coordinating centers in Donetsk, Lugansk, Kharkov, Nikolaev, Odessa; 2) create self-defense units and establish discipline with subordination to the commanders of these units; 3) arm units with bats, shields, helmets; 4) turn captured objects into protected defense strongholds; 5) to protect the leaders of the popular uprising so that they could not be arrested or killed; 6) in the event of clashes and confrontation with the Nazis from the right sector, DO NOT SPARE ANYONE! AND GARBAGE SELECTED-WHO WILL RESPONSE. This is in terms of the armed struggle against the Nazis and madanutskoy bastard from Kiev. With regard to political actions, to hold popular referenda on the federalization of the south-east of Ukraine and disobeying the anti-people and illegitimate newly made Kiev authorities, as well as compose a message to the President of the Russian Federation and the State Duma on the adoption of the Russian Federation and assistance.

[Alekseev]

Quote: timer

in the event of clashes and confrontation with the Nazis from the right sector, DO NOT SPARE ANYONE! A WASTE TO BEAT THE SELECTED-WHO WILL RESIST.

Absolutely accurate definition!
It’s hard to do it, all the people, but you have to ...

[smile]

avt
I agree, it is annoying that something is not visible to the materialization of the announced plans to create a militia, some sort of organized management and concerted actions of anti-Bandera forces. No real steps are visible to take power and infrastructure into their own hands, to attract militia units. Takeoffs at airports, etc. are not blocked ..... One can see only a talking shop and slogans. In Kharkov, not a single shot was fired from the "militia", they took seventy people, as far as I understand, they decapitated the resistance and that's it .... so the Nazis will bandage them in parts and the boss ... I really hope that we just do not know about what is really going on there ... yet - the impression of an unorganized bazaar ...

[Aleksandr65]

You do not like the fact that seventy wonderful people survived? If there were at least one shot on their part, how many corpses would they be today? I want to note that this is not a computer game and the real lives of real people are in danger. And since you are HERE, and they are THERE, it is for them, and not for you, to judge the correctness or incorrectness of their actions. And how it should be — they (and all) are already well aware.

[smile]

Aleksandr65
No, I don’t like the fact that seventy wonderful people are now dominated by a fascist junta and their fate is unknown and I personally have serious concerns.
And this happened because the self-defense forces, the creation of which has been talked about so much, could not organize a rebuff.
You can not sing songs about the dangers of real life here, I, clearly unlike you, have experienced them in my own skin, and these confirmations will remain on her forever. Is it incomprehensible to you that in order to prevent such a final (though I hope this is not the final) it was enough to take control of the airports and roads leading to Kharkov?
You don’t understand that if you don’t have the determination or the strength to fight, block the convoys of forces loyal to the junta on the access roads, it’s enough to organize a warning service and leave in an organized manner, while maintaining controllability, so that the enemy’s blow goes into milk? Especially. what about nominating bandarlogs yelling all tyrnet .....
I’m not going to conduct an educational program here for you - it should be obvious anyway, so I’m redirecting your pearl to you — I want to tell you that this is not a computer toy, if you lead people, you are responsible for ensuring that everything even the smallest sacrifice was not in vain. This is not a toy - here you can’t limit yourself to chatter - you have to work. And it is precisely to work that is full of complaints - there are also full of professional people, why weren’t they involved in solving the problem? This is a jamb. a real cant, for which people are paying ..... And not to notice it - you need to be able .... or not to think anything.
So, look for another target for your righteous anger. otherwise I’ll die laughing.

[pensioner]

Hi Vova! I’m thinking: do we all know? Is all information voiced? Well, I do not believe that with such a huge number of past SAs, which are available in the East of Ukraine, no worthy organizers were found! And defense tactics are defective tactics by definition. Something needs to be proactively acted ..

[smile]

pensioner
Hi, Jura!
Well, of course, we know only a small part of what is happening there - you are absolutely right. It also doesn’t fit into my head that in Kharkov there was an imperceptible presence of a normal organization of work and a normal centralized command, no coherence in actions with other centers of resistance ...
We certainly don’t know much ... But the cant is obvious.
Moreover, in any case, a lot of SBU people are simply obliged to work there. And you are absolutely absolutely right - inaction leads to the transition of the initiative to the putschists ... further - kayuk. And even scary to think. what will the fascists do to them if they win .....
In general, it’s sad so far, and I really, really hope that we don’t know much .... and not everything should be called to the whole district .... but for now the putschists are leveling the score and have gained a serious moral victory. So far - only moral. I hope they get it over the nose. In Lugansk, everything seems to be done as it should ....

[Russ69]

Quote: agbykov

From whom to demand a referendum? In Kiev junta ??? We must organize it ourselves, as we did in the Crimea.

I honestly don’t understand either. They have already demanded something for more than a month, but the article’s gladness has toughened it up and urges everyone who demands it to fit it into this article ...
I understand that they want to solve everything peacefully. But with the junta, he will agree, nothing will come of it. Or, act decisively and take the power on the ground into your own hands. Or stupidly obey, only you don’t complain later, you won’t have more of such a chance in the near future, and so we practically missed the time ...

[max702]

Khan South of the east .. If Lugansk does not rest, then everything .. But something I do not believe in their obstinacy, in Kharkov shouted so what? I’ve started everything, I think they’ll already drive to Kiev, in Donetsk it will be the same in the near future, take control of military units, open arsenals, take control, railway stations, airfields, checkpoint lorries, patrol cities, and then kick deputies and accept necessary laws .. Without the first part, all this is useless! I wanted to ride a horse and into battle, but it turned out to fart, fall into a puddle and fall asleep forever ..

[Flooding]

Quote: max702

But something I do not believe in their obstinacy, in Kharkov shouted what? I started all think already in Kiev

The people can not be stopped. At night they go home, to children, families.
But in the afternoon they again go to the squares and streets.
Here is the very Kharkov after the events of last night

[Horst78]

And what kind of police then went behind?

[arnulla]

Maydauns stood in Kiev around the clock. And Kharkovites mean home for a night? On warm beds? Then it is not surprising that they were tied up so quickly ... They hope that someone else will not sleep for them at night, defending their interests? What will someone else risk their own head for them? Oh well...

[Flooding]

And again there and at the same time

[Little Muck]

True, the saboteur from me is not so hot, but I would suggest more radical actions to Kharkov citizens.
Pull up a car with gasoline and use a brigade booth to fill these creatures with gasoline and set fire to it, and to finish jumping out of the fire.
They won’t understand otherwise.

[Flooding]

Southeast Online:
http://goodgame.ru/player3?6147

[timer]

It’s good, for starters, that protests began to take place more often and not sporadically. To achieve real changes, you need to: 1) create coordinating centers in Donetsk, Lugansk, Kharkov, Nikolaev, Odessa; 2) create self-defense units and establish discipline with subordination to the commanders of these units; 3) arm units with bats, shields, helmets; 4) turn captured objects into protected defense strongholds; 5) to protect the leaders of the popular uprising so that they could not be arrested or killed; 6) in the event of clashes and confrontation with the Nazis from the right sector, DO NOT SPARE ANYONE! AND GARBAGE SELECTED-WHO WILL RESPONSE. This is in terms of the armed struggle against the Nazis and madanutskoy bastard from Kiev. With regard to political actions, to hold popular referenda on the federalization of the south-east of Ukraine and disobeying the anti-people and illegitimate newly made Kiev authorities, as well as compose a message to the President of the Russian Federation and the State Duma on the adoption of the Russian Federation and assistance.

[Com T-64a]

Take a look at the guys! It seems not to be fake! Http: //www.youtube.com/watch? Feature = player_embedded & v = 4BUs2FxAYHg

[Horst78]

If only I put a space before the link

[Timur]

in Kharkov, people razfigachil visiting visitors in a groove.

http://vk.com/antimaydan?z=video166787019_168124632%2F0141a0ebca569fe766

[1712]

agbykov! People who are now in the building have already done a feat, with the amorphousness of the population of Lugansk, they were able to attract the attention of the population of the city. I cannot say that this is a swamp. But it is practically impossible to raise it. What do you need? The territory is inhabited by many nationalities, different religions and wealth. It's hard here for all kinds of blitz shouts. Need work". It is long and difficult, but the result will be. If not, then Russia is not losing territory, it is losing the main thing. That that part of the Russian-speaking population, his children and grandchildren, will not remember their kinship and value because, in a difficult moment, Russia abandoned “its own people” and was unable to help.

[Xergey]

as in the Crimea it doesn’t work out, you need something different

[Deadmen]

Stand to the end! Lugansk !!

[nika407]

I subscribe to every word of Kurginyan.

[quote = Deadmen]

[Siberian19]

Lugansk seems to go to the end! God grant them good luck, they are now very necessary to them without the support of Russia!

[Tersky]

Quote: Siberian19

Lugansk seems to go to the end! God grant them good luck, they are now very necessary to them without the support of Russia!

In Donetsk and Lugansk the most organized resistance of the junta. They need full consolidation, both with each other and with other regions, Kharkov, Odessa, Nikolaev ... Then it will be POWER ..

[thrower]

Donetsk and Lugansk are trying to separate, but they need to announce about such a subject as Little Russia.

[Ascetic]

Quote: thrower

Donetsk and Lugansk are trying to separate, but they need to announce about such a subject as Little Russia.

Nazarbayev expressed a very interesting position when it became clear that the border of Ukraine with all neighbors has not been settled. For this reason, UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon said that since there is no border arranged according to international law, it is impossible to make a complaint about its crossing.

[matross]

Quote: Siberian19

Lugansk seems to go to the end

And what the end will be will become clear in the next 2-3 days. A sure sign of victory will be the transition to the side of reason at least part of the police and military. Then a chain reaction will begin. If the troops and cops start shooting at the militia, it will end in a bloody mess and victory ukur ... ugh! ukrov over normal. And "the whole progressive mir" will choke on snot about the victory of the law over the gangs of Russian separatists!

[Corsair]

Quote: Siberian19

Lugansk seems to go to the end! God grant them good luck, they are now very necessary to them without the support of Russia!

Thousands of Luganchan sing the anthem of Russia and cry out for Putin’s reaction.

[Smiles to you]

In Lugansk, locals (polite people) are ready to meet pravosekov ... "With bread and salt" ...

[asbaev]

Although someone is holding on, Kharkiv somehow does not even protest.

[Georgic]

Already need not to demand! You need to take everything into your own hands and DO!

[Smiles to you]

They can’t do it themselves, I need help OLDER BROTHER...

[Russ69]

Quote: Smiles at you

They can’t do it themselves, I need help from the BIG BROTHER ...

To begin with, they must show that they themselves can do what, and not just scream at meetings or wave their weapons.

[Smiles to you]

Everything begins with rallies and meetings ... Further, organized protest and support ... Something like this ... With uv ...

[razved]

Hold on, hold on and hold on again. And to do what they rose against the junta for.

[svp67]

Quote: razved

Hold on, hold on and hold on again. And to do what they rose against the junta for.

To step ... until they go right. Now it would not hurt Yanukovych to appear there ... but from this coward expect him to take a normal right step ... only cowardly words, on a piece of paper ... God bless us from such Leaders.

[Afinogen]

The light is not extinguished, the flame may still catch fire.

[tank64rus]

Your cause is right. If they get up ALL there is nothing they won’t do.

[Monk]

Let's guys, let's just don’t give up, only until victory, until final victory.

[Ulairy]

A-ha-ha, but I warned you! All these farions and pravoseki will get rid of their people! Although I do not think that Kharkiv, Donbass and Lugansk are so "pro-Russian", they just are not against Russia and they have brains and national pride! Now, if the movement gains strength more powerful, there will be a real revolution, and not a clown Maidan - with the throwing of the rotten "government" into a dump and the "throwing" of foreign invaders into the sea. History repeats itself, however ... For Lugansk, for Kharkiv, for Donbass!

[ya.seliwerstov2013]

Fight. Not one step back! All sane people of Ukraine are looking at you! Become an example for them !!

[Com T-64a]

KEEP BROTHERS !!! WE ARE WITH YOU !!!

[2я19]

Need to help! In a word, deed, food, cartridges (without a pale) ... After all, the Russians do not abandon their own !!! Yes, and Lavrov will be easier.

[konvalval]

For Lugansk the moment of truth has come. I mean for the People’s Army. Soon it will become clear whether it is or not.

[kvnvolga2008]

I completely agree! Or there are partisan detachments, or these are the next Inetian show-offs!

[nika407]

There is nowhere to retreat - humiliation, poverty, genocide by word are behind. Many politicians of the Kiev authorities have already promised to destroy the Russian population: Tymoshenko, Farion, Yarosh, Filatov - "You need to give the scum any such promises, guarantees and make any concessions. And hang ... We will hang them later."

[Sigismund]

God bless you!

[Grbear]

Ulairy

... I don't think that Kharkiv, Donbass and Lugansk are so "pro-Russian", they just are not against Russia and they have brains and national pride!

They really are not so pro-Russian and the brain is not yet visible. And as for national pride, do not get excited (what nationality? Ukrainians, Russians or Slavs ).
It's just that the "ghost" of hunger and concentration camps becomes material.

[ispaniard]

Lugans turned out to be the strongest of all! Oh man!

[VengefulRat]

Donetsk also does not give up, but few of them are very few ...

[Sergg]

Yes, Lugans deserve respect: the first to rise and most likely will not give up.

[Riperbahn]

Seen already. Again, all the steam goes into the whistle. Again the wait-and-see policy of the Southeast. Or maybe Russia will do everything for us? Lord, people - you do your own thing about ... your future! It is insulting and painful for you, but you have such a fate. Who wants to live without a fight, he gets a gentleman on his neck: (((sorry, but apparently will not work out in the Russian Outskirts: (((

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

I don’t know how to react anymore

[ispaniard]

It's time to send Ramzanchik ORLOV to Lugansk to help them be the first to meet "BLACK WATER" ... (In the photo, the Georgian spotters after they were identified and captured by the "Vostok" fighters during the "08.08.08" war). P.S. To whom "THEIR" HERRORER is based on "OUR" THOUGHT. Let the Americans think well whether they need money ...

[Riperbahn]

In fact, now our people are being calculated and taken to Kiev. Out of place cheers-patriotism :(

[techmesh]

I can’t understand the people of the southeast who are sitting at home or continue to go to work as if nothing had happened. Well, the periphery, but the cities are million-plus !? As you do not understand, they came to kill you, to turn you into slaves. Yes, leave 100000 and no pravoseki, the junta will not prevail against you. How not to understand that then there will be no work, no future. LIFT UP !!!

[Riperbahn]

So I don’t understand :( Whatever the optimist would be, but the future of the East is very foggy. Most likely the juntas will fill the budget. We are working! We are working to make them eat.

[Lenochka]

Good evening all!
I specifically registered to ask my questions, as no one to ask alive, but I want to understand everything! Explain who understands the meaning of the seizure of the RSA? Kharkov could not stand without the help of the Russian Federation. What are the rest hoping for? If the troops still do not enter, how will the activists fight the seasoned thugs? If they know that they can’t cope, because forces are not equal why capture?

[2я19]

To Russia, Helen, to Russia! They believe that the Russians do not abandon their own.

[Riperbahn]

This is a gesture of despair :(

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Lenochka

If the troops still do not enter, how will they fight the seasoned thugs? If they know that they can’t cope, because forces are not equal why capture?

with what seasoned thugs? !!!
the power of banderlogs in the organization, they are strong with the crowd, and push them with the crowd not to work, go to which you will be deprived tomorrow and to the square and fight for the land of the children of the wives of mothers.

[Lenochka]

and US mercenaries are seasoned thugs, they have a lot of experience in different countries

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Lenochka

and US mercenaries are seasoned thugs, they have a lot of experience in different countries

Well, on the video I saw a crowd of thugs auto professional soldiers no

[gfs84]

Explain who understands the meaning of the seizure of the RSA? Kharkov could not stand without the help of the Russian Federation. What are the rest hoping for? If the troops still do not enter, how will the activists fight the seasoned thugs? If they know that they can’t cope, because forces are not equal why capture?

I warn you at once everything below is just my speculation, alas, to know everything (or vice versa, glory to the Almighty) is impossible.

The capture of the RSA is primarily an opportunity for the population to declare themselves, to show those who have seized power that people in the Southeast do not support it. Alas, at the moment, juntaires must be able to act by force ... Sitting at home at the computer or in the kitchen at a glass, they won’t reach Kiev ...
And those who pretended to be power "heard" that SE was screaming at them and were scared ...
Yes, at this stage, the "seizures" of the Regional State Administration are doomed ...
BUT:
1. This is a way to stir up doubters, but sooner or later they will wake up themselves (price increases, there is no Russian language, etc.), but then it may be too late ...
2. The signal of Russia that there are people in SE who believe that their homeland is Russia (alas, apparently these people are not enough, I think special services track what percentage of the population for Russia and if they were 60% polite people would already be in SE ) ...
3. The challenge to the juntas, in the sense that everything they want does not work out, you need to take into account the opinion of SE, Russia who does not take into account the opinion of SE will not help Kiev and just will not speak, and without Russia, Ukraine cannot get out of that shit ...

No other way ... Alas (((

[polite people]

Yes it is. Slavs rise.
Really the principle of My hut with the edge completely possessed minds.

[ispaniard]

In general, how is Tolkien's "Battle of countless tears" huh? .. To watch how UNLANDED Lugantsev rolls up the whole team of Maidanutaya SHOBLA-YO..LA under the plinth? I'm sitting there gritting my teeth ... Bl ... to hell with him we are not introducing troops yet, but can we defend their lives at the Government level?!? Or we get "Berkut 2": (((

[polite people]

How is it they are not. And in this photo who. Santas.

[Turdaun]

Southeast brothers get up! Now he is the moment of truth! Now! There will be no more of it. TIME TO COLLECT STONES. We are the children from whom their house was taken. Our house. It's time to come back. It all starts with you. Hold on. We eat home in the USSR!

[Russ69]

They say that they filmed today, near Lugansk ...

[Walk]

Crap. This entry is very old. On it, allegedly, our armored personnel carriers going to the Crimea.

[1712]

This column arrived from Kharkov yesterday.

[Sergey S.]

Quote: agbykov

From whom to demand a referendum? In Kiev junta ??? We must organize it ourselves, as we did in the Crimea.

Right.
And the only constructive.
For this, even green men are not needed.

[WORD]

About what awaits the reaction of local authorities, this is correct, since this is a real legitimate authority in the country (I mean the regional council). After a lapse of time, in the absence of reaction of the region. council, a distrust of the reg. council and is elected by his region. advice and then decided with this region. Council on the issue of federalization or independence of the region, thus exercising the right to self-determination of peoples prescribed in the UN Charter. It is impossible to declare self-determination from a floundering bay.

[anfil]

Quote: Smiles to You

They can’t do it themselves, I need help OLDER BROTHER...

I don’t see any significant LEADER yet, as in Crimea, which the people will follow without looking back.

[zol1]

Russian President Vladimir Putin can decide on the use of armed forces in Ukraine at any time. Such a right is given to him by the consent of the Federation Council of the Russian Federation received earlier, Viktor Ozerov, chairman of the Federation Council Committee on Defense and Security, confirmed on Tuesday.

Russia has always supported and rescued its Slav brothers from trouble! It should help now, when the fascist idiots are trying to drown in the blood protests of people who do not want to live in this gadyushniku, in which Ukraine turned Yaroshi and the like I will kill * ki !!

[Anton Gavrilov]

It’s necessary not to demand, but to act! Nobody will hold a referendum besides you.

[51064]

Quote: Tersky

Quote: Siberian19

Lugansk seems to go to the end! God grant them good luck, they are now very necessary to them without the support of Russia!

In Donetsk and Lugansk the most organized resistance of the junta. They need full consolidation, both with each other and with other regions, Kharkov, Odessa, Nikolaev ... Then it will be POWER ..

They are quite consolidated. Constantly keep in touch in real time. However, this did not prevent them from losing even in Kharkov, where the "losses" were up to 70 insurgents already transported to Kiev. After that, I would like to laugh at those who claim that Russia is helping the East of Ukraine, since holding Kharkov at least for a while could have been easy - with almost simple organizational measures that "give birth" in the depths of the FSB - most likely a matter of almost five minutes, if time is short.

[Horst78]

Brothers hold on and unite.

[parus2nik]

That's what it means to be deleted from the history books of Ukraine, about the battles on Krasnaya Presnya in 1905, about the October Revolution, about the uprising at the Arsenal plant .. the Paris Commune .. The mistake of the workers' squads during the Moscow uprising, was barricaded by no active actions, the royal the government sent special forces-Preobrazhensky and Semenovsky regiments, the uprising ended .. Classic October 24-25, 1917, quickly, clearly and harmoniously .. bridges, stations, post office, telegraph .. History, nobody teaches .. history teaches nothing ..
Typically, the Ukrainian army is silent again .. As the Ukrainian press writes, it is at war with the invaders in Crimea ..

[51064]

Quote: Lenochka

Kharkov could not stand without the help of the Russian Federation. What are the rest hoping for? If the troops still do not enter, how will the activists fight the seasoned thugs? If they know that they can’t cope, because forces are not equal why capture?

"Sow the wind - reap the storm" - this is one of the reasons. Chain reaction - Euromaidan, illegal seizure of power - Crimea, East and South-East. Your own defeat will be converted into a future grand victory for all who remain. People live not only their own lives, but the lives of many others, whom they sympathize with, love and whom they want good, prosperity and happiness. Part of the psychology of heroes. Glory to the heroes! Death (more precisely, humane genetic gradual extinction in the process of natural selection provided by Nature) to enemies! Here, it can be explained quite simply.

[Rusin Dima]

Now the Ukrainian junta cannot be washed, then the guano into which they drove themselves to the very top, can not be washed away with any ariel or tide

[51064]

Quote: Rusin Dima

Now the Ukrainian junta cannot be washed, then the guano into which they drove themselves to the very top, can not be washed away with any ariel or tide

Only adjusted for our understanding. Because when 10 million people die in Africa in the West, there is silence, "only the dead stand with scythes." For example, when Somalia was destroyed as a state, i.e. in general, with all the consequences - pirates, al-Qaeda, terrorists, our partners - opponents were almost deeply indifferent - and let's arrange a game "Pirates of the 21st century". Like we'll play peacekeepers. We will send ships there, we will consolidate NATO partner programs, we will pass for humanizers and peacekeepers, we will "shake up" public opinion in Europe and Russia based on universal human values, we will create a positive image in the camp of enemies (primarily Russia), such as pretending to be a Trojan horse (by the way far from the first in the history of mankind). Meanwhile, we are the bull's eye, we are the goal for the West, or rather, for several dozen people who print trillion dollars a year with just one light movement of the US Federal Reserve's hand, which turned the US people, and indirectly, the EU people into an instrument for achieving world "super oligarchs" goals ... Well, gentlemen, we can bow our hat to you (I won't offer a sword, you won't have enough money), but here's the problem - you have no idea and cannot have - you are zombies who continue the business of starting capital of their ancestors. You are smart, well educated, you don’t hate (or rather, you think it’s more profitable to “cut” and use all of us at the same time with Russia), not counting the Chinese and Hindus and many others. just because we love the truth, FOR THAT WE HAVE SPIRITUALITY, AND, PARDON, ARE ABLE TO THINK NOT ONLY FOR TODAY, BUT FOR THE FATE OF EVERYONE, EVEN YOURSELF, and not just for the fate of salami and cognac before 3rd Reich as a magnificent sight. You are the animals from Hollywood films, who need to give way to the underworld, you will still die with the only difference - whether all of humanity will die with you or only you alone. However, there is another option - to surrender at the mercy of the winners, or there will be no winners at all. This is how life works - meteorites fly over Chelyabensk, and meanwhile resources are spent on missile defense, and the Sun is far from 10 years old.

[51064]

Quote: Rusin Dima

Now the Ukrainian junta cannot be washed, then the guano into which they drove themselves to the very top, can not be washed away with any ariel or tide

Only adjusted for our understanding. Because when 10 million people die in Africa in the West, there is silence, "only the dead stand with scythes." For example, when Somalia was destroyed as a state, i.e. in general, with all the consequences - pirates, al-Qaeda, terrorists, our partners - opponents were almost deeply indifferent - and let's arrange a game "Pirates of the 21st century". Like we'll play peacekeepers. We will send ships there, we will consolidate NATO partner programs, we will pass for humanizers and peacekeepers, we will "shake up" public opinion in Europe and Russia based on universal human values, we will create a positive image in the camp of enemies (primarily Russia), such as pretending to be a Trojan horse (by the way far from the first in the history of mankind). Meanwhile, we are the bull's eye, we are the goal for the West, or rather, for several dozen people who print trillion dollars a year with just one light movement of the US Federal Reserve's hand, which turned the US people, and indirectly, the EU people into an instrument for achieving world "super oligarchs" goals ... Well, gentlemen, we can bow our hat to you (I won't offer a sword, you won't have enough money), but here's the problem - you have no idea and cannot have - you are zombies who continue the business of starting capital of their ancestors. You are smart, well educated, you don’t hate (or rather, you think it’s more profitable to “cut” and use all of us at the same time with Russia), not counting the Chinese and Hindus and many others. just because we love the truth, FOR THAT WE HAVE SPIRITUALITY, AND, PARDON, ARE ABLE TO THINK NOT ONLY FOR TODAY, BUT FOR THE FATE OF EVERYONE, EVEN YOURSELF, and not just for the fate of salami and cognac before 3rd Reich as a magnificent sight. You are the animals from Hollywood films, who need to give way to the underworld, you will still die with the only difference - whether all of humanity will die with you or only you alone. However, there is another option - to surrender at the mercy of the winners, or there will be no winners at all. This is how life works - meteorites fly over Chelyabensk, and meanwhile resources are spent on missile defense, and the Sun is far from 10 years old.

[Bosk]

Guys, what bags, what tires ... it's hard to delve into the history of how it's done, to litter up the street so that a "labyrinth" is formed with a passage to the floor of a person. The best bloodless protection from people with shields and clubs is to arrange them "Thermopylae" ...

[kelevra]

Now you need to grab the SBU in order to get weapons! Without it, you can’t hold out for long.

[Cossacks]

The phenomenon of Aksenov is unlikely to happen again. It's a pity.

[1712]

Aksenov proclaimed and polite little men appeared at lightning speed. And here, three areas cry out for help, and in response, silence.

[pvv113]

Protesters periodically chant demands for a referendum on separation from Ukraine

Banderlogs and their junta will clearly resist separation. Indeed, if the southeast is separated, then who will feed them? They themselves are not used to work, and you won’t be fed up with zigs

[Helgard_RND]

With all due respect to the Southeast!
They will not tighten their people's republics!
Kiev will drown the South-East in the blood, the Nazis, the oligarchs, will not give up the rich and technologically advanced South-East.
I would like it to be the other way around, and we saw the light of the South-Eastern People’s Confederation!
and there we will help them) economically, financially, technologically.

[51064]

Quote: pvv113

Protesters periodically chant demands for a referendum on separation from Ukraine

Banderlogs and their junta will clearly resist separation. Indeed, if the southeast is separated, then who will feed them? They themselves are not used to work, and you won’t be fed up with zigs

In my opinion, the demands for a secession referendum are a politically weak position. It is necessary to take into account the opinion of all citizens in a "transparent" expression of will. That is, the referendum should create conditions for making the right decision for all members of society, in order to reach consensus and public consent, as well as to demonstrate to external forces the degree of consolidation of public opinion. Indeed, suppose in the Crimean referendum there would be a distribution of votes 51 to 49, then would it be worthwhile for Russia to include Crimea in its composition? I don't think it would be right.

[51064]

Quote: Bosk

Guys, what bags, what tires ... it's hard to delve into the history of how it's done, to litter up the street so that a "labyrinth" is formed with a passage to the floor of a person. The best bloodless protection from people with shields and clubs is to arrange them "Thermopylae" ...

Of course, any barriers are beneficial, but I would like to know which ones are most effective.
In Lugansk, the Junta is being held back not by barriers, but by two factors.
1. Presence of 100...200++(?) people with small arms in the building.
2. The outer perimeter of the building is surrounded by “civil” activists, incl. wives and relatives of those with weapons inside the building, i.e. there are many people who are ready to “go to the end.”
The absence of this led to a quick defeat in Kharkov, no matter how they barricaded themselves there.

[ispaniard]

Lugansk guys, I hope some of you are reading these lines BROTHERS! (I write in capitals because you have already proven that we in Russia can call you that, just as BERKUT proved earlier). You are now not Lugansk but STALINGRAD!!! Retreat P...C not only to the South-East, but to the whole of Ukraine... I know how hard it is for you now (Yes, what can I know... I just see from the monitor what is happening to you, and howl (((!! ! How I want to help you!) Hold on, retreat, DO NOT expect mercy from the Maidanists! (Look at Kharkov)... Our GDP also sees all this, don’t doubt it! The “Junta” is already afraid of you, since you understand that it is from represents itself...Hold on dear ones, RUSSIA is with YOU.

[Andron_by]

The problem is that Yanukovych was opposed by hundreds of thousands, and the current usurpers who occupied the Rada - hundreds. This pack, smeared with the support of Western "hornets", is recruited for only one thing: to make a swarm of hardworking bees work for one system .... in which they hope that they will get honey too ... "A rider knocked out of his horse, if at the same moment he is again will not saddle - will lose all hope of conquering the stallion "... Dear Ukrainians! I'm worried about you! Do not stand a fraction of the resolve that you are looking for protection in slogans for Russia, but for your unshakable will for Order and Justice in your Country! They are trying to destroy YOU! All that Trash that is at the helm ... They are confident about X in the opinion of the people. Drive this Trash !!! Save the Country! Unite in your Nation! Peaceful coexistence of ALL of us - Slavs depends on you ... General consolidation - will not leave you alone without the support of fraternal peoples !!! GOD help you !!!

[Zlyden.Zlo]

I watch the Internet radio news. And I don’t find the answer to the main question there. Why all this? Even Yanukovych’s coup could have been removed this way. Nationalists coming to power, and the country instantly split. Creating a hotbed of tension close to Europe and Russia... The Ukrainian economy is going into such a state. No right-wing sector and mercenaries will not be enough against people who cannot feed their families .There is, of course, the option of pitting everyone against each other

[commode77]

You're looking at it wrong somehow. Or at the wrong angle. What harsh judgments you have! For what? The cleverest? I admit... What's next? Of course, not everyone learned Russian in such a way that it would be convenient to express their thoughts in it. Study (at school)! :)).

[commode77]

good song, whatever :)

[Pesnyadv]

Everyone imagines himself a strategist, seeing the battle from the side ...

I won't pretend to be a strategist.
But when watching numerous videos, one does not feel a firm hand in organizing Confrontation with the corrupt current Kyiv government.
Emotions are visible. There are a lot of them and they are overwhelming.
But these are EMOTIONS.

Russia, as a country, can and should help the people of Ukraine.
But for now, 100 - 5000 people are not the country of Ukraine. Yes, 5000 people is a lot and they are PEOPLE. But this is far from Ukraine.
The same, inert majority, sitting in the kitchen or near the TV. tomorrow he will tell Russia that they didn’t invite us!!!

In Ukraine there are a lot of people who have experience in organizing people and subordinating them to their will.
But so far these people are not very visible. They exist, but they are catastrophically few!!!
This means that, at a minimum, they do not support those rebelling against the Maidanists.

Society is not yet consolidated enough!!!

[sarmat-4791]

somehow like that, probably

[siberalt]

Lugansk is geographically in a more advantageous position with its closest neighbors. If Kharkov and Donetsk secede from Ukraine, then Lugansk will be cut off from it. And we need to break boundaries together. This is the weak point of the understate.