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Umka platform and the future of Belarusian armored vehicles

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In the past few weeks, President of Belarus A. Lukashenko has made a number of statements regarding the development of the armed forces. According to the Belarusian leader, it is necessary to update and modernize the army, including with the help of new weapons and equipment. The army of the future should not be too big, but well equipped and very powerful. In this case, the armed forces will be able to effectively carry out the tasks assigned to them. In the near future, A. Lukashenko intends to “stir up” the 140 Repair Plant in Borisov, which is engaged in the restoration and modernization of various armored vehicles of the ground forces. The Belarusian president called on the company to start new projects: “Enough of painting and cleaning the sandpaper of the hull and changing something. We must move to a new stage. ”


Umka platform and the future of Belarusian armored vehicles


A. Lukashenko noted that some private enterprises of Belarus are already creating their own projects of modern armored vehicles. Large old plants, in turn, "rest on their laurels" and are in no hurry to engage in the development of new weapons and equipment. At the same time, the head of state noted that the new equipment should be created precisely by Belarusian enterprises.

It is likely that the relevant decisions and decrees will follow the statements of the President of Belarus. The armed forces of the Republic of Belarus really need to upgrade their fleet of armored vehicles. All armored vehicles operated by ground troops, were built before the collapse of the Soviet Union, which accordingly affects their capabilities and resources. The Belarusian industry made some attempts to create new types of armored vehicles to replace outdated vehicles, but none of these projects has yet reached mass production.

For example, several years ago, the Minsk Wheel Tractor Plant (MZKT) presented the project of the promising armored wheeled platform MZKT-590100 "Umka". Based on a single chassis, created with the latest trends in the field of armored vehicles, it was proposed to build cars of various types. According to reports, the project "Umka" stopped before the construction of prototypes. It is possible that one of the consequences of the recent statements of A. Lukashenko will be the resumption of work on the MZKT-590100 vehicle, as a result of which the Belarusian army will be able to update its fleet of armored vehicles.



The Umka project started in 2008. The development of a family of promising wheeled armored vehicles was carried out by the MWTP on an initiative basis. It was proposed to develop a universal four-axle chassis, on the basis of which various types of equipment can be created: armored personnel carrier, ambulance, command and control vehicle, self-propelled artillery system or "wheeled tank". In the matter of creating various equipment for the armed forces, the Minsk Wheel Tractor Plant has a lot of experience, which was supposed to be used in the new project. At the same time, however, the developers of the MZKT-590100 project decided to abandon the tested and proven solutions. In the project “Umka” it was proposed to use new ideas and technical solutions.

Advanced technical solutions had to be applied in almost all elements of the new project. So, instead of a mechanical transmission, it was proposed to use an electric one with a separate electric motor on each wheel. The design of the armored hull had to use the newest materials, including composites. Finally, the composition of the on-board electronics should allow the crew to monitor the situation on the battlefield and keep in touch with other machines.

As follows from the available data, the MZKT-590100 combat vehicle was supposed to be built in accordance with the latest trends in the field of armored vehicles. In front of the 14-ton vehicle's armored hull, it was proposed to place a 490 hp diesel engine. and electric generator. With each of the eight wheels was proposed to connect a separate electric motor. For the rotation of the wheels was supposed to use an asynchronous motor or motor with permanent magnets. The specific type of electric motors should have been determined by a special study.

According to the calculations of the Belarusian designers, the Umka combat vehicle could have quite high characteristics. The maximum speed on the highway was estimated at 130 km / h, on a dirt road of satisfactory condition - 55 km / h. Power reserve was determined at the level of 1000 kilometers. In the stern of the hull, the prospective armored vehicle was supposed to have two electrically powered jet propulsion units. The maximum speed on the water was estimated at 12 km / h.



Information on the design of the armored hull and the level of protection provided is missing. Probably, the body of the armored vehicle MZKT-590100 was supposed to withstand the hit of small bullets weapons, including large-caliber. In addition, we can not exclude the possibility of using mounted modules additional booking.

In front of the hull of the car "Umka" was supposed to be located a diesel engine and an electric generator, as well as workplaces of a driver and commander. Behind them was a place to install the tower with the necessary weapons. Stern hull was taken under the troop compartment (in the version of an armored personnel carrier) or under the placement of the necessary payload. To land fighters or load cargo in the stern sheet, the car had to have a large door. In addition, roof hatches were provided.

To monitor the situation, the crew of a prospective armored vehicle had to have a complex of various optical-electronic and radar facilities. Electronic equipment and weapons in the first stages of the project were supposed to be purchased from foreign manufacturers.

Based on the Umka chassis, it was proposed to develop several machines for various purposes. Wheeled armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles were offered for motorized rifle units. From the published materials it follows that the armored personnel carrier on the basis of MZKT-590100 was supposed to carry two remote-controlled towers with machine-gun armament, which would increase the size of the troop compartment. BMP "Umka" was supposed to have at times greater firepower. It was proposed to install a combat module with an automatic cannon and a machine gun, as well as anti-tank guided missiles. In addition, the new chassis could become the basis for a promising self-propelled artillery. For this, it was proposed to equip it with a turret with a caliber gun to 120 mm and a twin machine gun.

Also offered two options for auxiliary equipment. The armored medical vehicle was supposed to be a modified version of the armored personnel carrier with the appropriate equipment. A promising armored repair and recovery vehicle, conceived by the creators, instead of the tower was supposed to carry a crane. Inside the hull it was proposed to place the equipment necessary for the repair.

It was expected that the project "Umka" would not only update the fleet of equipment of the armed forces, but also attract a number of Belarusian defense enterprises to active work. In 2010, the specialists of the Minsk Wheel Tractor Plant completed a study of the latest foreign armored vehicles of the same class as their promising development. In addition, the advantages and disadvantages of various systems that were proposed for use in the Umka project were identified. Having formed the overall look of a promising wheeled platform, MZKT held negotiations with several Belarusian enterprises that could take part in the project.

Enterprises found a common language, but no further work was carried out. Continuation of research and development work on an initiative basis was not possible, which is why MZKT sent a corresponding request to the State Military Industrial Committee (GVPK). Unfortunately, the proposal to create a family of wheeled armored vehicles on the basis of a single platform did not interest the Ministry of Defense and the GVPK. Due to the lack of funding and interest from the potential customer, the Minsk Wheel Tractor Plant was forced to shut down all the work on the MZKT-590100 Umka project.

The cessation of work on the Umka wheeled platform project, among other things, led to the fact that the Belarusian military still has to use Soviet-made equipment. The defense industry of Belarus is able to carry out timely repairs and some types of modernization of the existing equipment, but its resource is not unlimited. Every year the need for new armored vehicles is felt more and more, and the absence of any projects in this area only complicates the situation. The consequences of the recent statements of A. Lukashenko will be shown by time. It is quite possible that in the foreseeable future Belarusian enterprises will start developing new equipment for the army. There is a certain probability that new types of equipment will be created taking into account any ideas embodied in the UMKA-590100 project.


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  1. Alex 1977
    Alex 1977 April 8 2014 08: 13
    +7
    In front of the armored hull of the 14-ton vehicle, it was proposed to place a 490 hp diesel engine. and an electric generator. It was proposed to connect a separate electric motor to each of the eight wheels. To rotate the wheels, it was proposed to use an asynchronous motor or a permanent magnet motor. The specific type of electric motors should have been determined by a special study ...
    Only this part of the text bothers me? Somewhere it was already. wink
    I hope the suspension is planned not chess? wink
    1. Dmitry 2246
      Dmitry 2246 April 8 2014 09: 00
      +7
      It is important that this, in any case, is a high-tech, modular project.
      Which raises the status of the entire industry of Belarus. With a successful scenario, it can be implemented. And so the idea of ​​the techies works in approximately the same direction and the performance characteristics of the "project" are impressive.
      Great designers realize the plans.
      1. Canep
        Canep April 8 2014 09: 31
        +7
        BREMka on the wheeled chassis will not work, the crane will not be able to work, we need outriggers.
        1. svp67
          svp67 April 8 2014 20: 08
          +1
          Quote: Canep
          BREMka on the wheeled chassis will not work, the crane will not be able to work, we need outriggers.

          What are you saying ... You can break everything with a fool.
          And with proper operation and use for the intended use, they do not turn over
          BREM-1

          BREM-2

          BREM based on BTR70

          BREM AMZ

          Here is an ARV based on the Ukrainian BTR4

          Also Ukrainian based on BTR-3
      2. Genry
        Genry April 8 2014 09: 37
        +14
        Belarusians with their Belazs have extensive experience in using electric transmissions.
    2. Canep
      Canep April 8 2014 09: 35
      +5
      Quote: Alexey 1977
      Only this part of the text bothers me? Somewhere it was already. wink
      If such a scheme was applied by Porsche on his tank (which by the way was not accepted for service), this does not mean that the scheme is bad, and the suspension of these tanks was not chess, several Ferdinands were built from the hulls of this unaccepted tank:
      Then the Germans could only rely on a gasoline engine, and the collector generator and electric motors that sparkled with brushes, in the place it was a bomb, as the test showed.

      We have a DET-250 tractor with the same principle of torque transmission, and BelAZ trucks also have an electric transmission. I am generally silent about diesel locomotives.
    3. Moore
      Moore April 8 2014 11: 21
      +9
      Motor wheels are successfully used on BELAZ, and not only ...
      So Herr Porsche just at the wrong time began to implement all this ...
    4. svp67
      svp67 April 8 2014 17: 18
      +1
      Quote: Alexey 1977
      Only this part of the text bothers me? Somewhere it was already

      And I like the machine ... That's just the roof, I think it’s still necessary to make it completely straightened and more technologically advanced, and there are more places inside and less dead zones ...
    5. svp67
      svp67 April 8 2014 17: 21
      +3
      Quote: Alexey 1977
      Only this part of the text bothers me? Somewhere it was already.

      Apparently seen here ...

      but in general - GOOD LUCK.
    6. cosmos111
      cosmos111 April 8 2014 19: 02
      0
      Quote: Alexey 1977
      Somewhere it was already

      maybe here lol ??
      in the United States, in the middle of 90-work is underway to create a KBM, a new type of hybrid powerplant and electric transmission (((
      with a low silhouette and the ability to transport aircraft C-130, combat weight
      MSC should not exceed 20 tons (((
      work was carried out by the corporation "General Dynamics" wheeled armored vehicle AHED 8x8 ((((
      electric motors located in the wheel hubs, also with active hydropneumatic suspension (((((
      AHED 8X8 it didn’t go further than the prototype either (((
  2. sv68
    sv68 April 8 2014 08: 51
    +7
    umka is looking for a friend, I need an army ready to take me into service good
  3. tchoni
    tchoni April 8 2014 09: 27
    +3
    This is not even a project yet. So "project" a la yo-mobile and persimmon.
  4. vomag
    vomag April 8 2014 09: 39
    -1
    Here again, this durogon "instructs" Belarusian enterprises to create something there .. understand some kind of crap on your computer and here they are the latest trends and blah blah blah give a bob and at a village rogue let's say 50 toons of greenery and need 500! And what to do? ? remember Fomenka with Marusya .. "Comrade" -Prokhorov with E mobile is one and the same language to scratch all the masters comes to the point and ...........
  5. Russ69
    Russ69 April 8 2014 09: 43
    +7
    I do not understand why Belarus should fully develop its own. It seems to me that it would be more efficient to work together with the Russian Federation on one project and then produce both for ourselves and for export.
    1. jayich
      jayich April 8 2014 10: 56
      +1
      And indeed it’s time to become one country, albeit with wide autonomy, it is interesting for Belarusians not tired of this independence. And Father, let me be the prime minister in the Russian Federation, and then the president.
      1. Dante Alighieri
        Dante Alighieri April 8 2014 16: 09
        +6
        It’s not profitable for them, the social network will immediately fall deep down: neither the benefits for you, nor free travel on public transport for students, nor the protectionism of domestic enterprises (they are simply privatized by cunning personalities and, as usual, they will be poached), and the quality roads will obviously be reduced (you know yourself what kind of kickbacks do we do on them, respectively, do high-quality roads - chop the head of a chicken laying golden eggs) + Tajiks and other guests from Central Asia will come there, but do Belarusians need it? So let Belarus be a reserved corner in this crazy world.

        And, to be honest, Lukashenka will not be able to take root in the Moscow elite - they will devour them: no matter how seasoned an animal he is, there will always be a larger animal. And his worldview is different - he will not be able to tolerate our snickering bureaucracy. And even if he is not an angel, he is an authoritarian leader (of which Lukashenko is), an authoritarian leader of discord, and this must be understood. One monopolized power, but did not forget about the people (and thus it turns out that in the eyes of the population it is legitimate, if it were not portrayed abroad), the other would (and history knows examples) fill the country with blood in order to extend it for at least a second the agony of his reign. So, as a statesman, Lukashenko has no price.
      2. Silent
        Silent April 9 2014 00: 27
        +2
        No, we are not tired of independence! As for the topic of discussion, I assure you, despite the fact that our designers are really good, modernization of production is even slower than yours. In addition, an insulting minimum of money is spent on defense.
        I do not believe in the prospects of the car.
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    3. Metlik
      Metlik April 8 2014 12: 28
      +7
      There are excellent designers in Belarus. "Stalker" I think is just a breakthrough for armored vehicles. Let them create more, we will share our experience.
  6. abc_alex
    abc_alex April 8 2014 12: 26
    +7
    And it seems to me that everything is very correct. And the idea is not bad, and Belarusians have really huge experience in working with electric transmission. And do not forget that in the USSR several performers on a competitive basis worked on any project at once. So what's wrong with our ally developing his own wheeled platform? It will turn out - we will establish cooperation.
  7. gregor6549
    gregor6549 April 8 2014 12: 52
    +11
    Being well acquainted with the MZKT for some projects in which I had a chance to participate in the first half of the 90s, as well as with the technologies that MZKT have long adopted in terms of managing their self-propelled vehicles, I can assume that the intended "war chariot" is really high-tech product. What is this assumption based on? And on the fact that already in the early 90s, MZKT began, together with the electronics industry of Belarus, to develop a digital control system for its tractors based on displays and other components developed by the Belarusian industry for SU27 and MIG29 fighters. At the same time, all the numerous dial gauges are replaced by one flat aircraft-type display, which displays all the information necessary for the driver to control and diagnose the tractor, including information on the status of the main components, units, navigation information, etc. The trick of such a system is that it can also be used to control attached weapons. Those. in the cab you can install two displays (driver and commander) and .. oil painting. Why am I? And the fact that the plans of the Belarusians have a solid foundation for their implementation and the creation of their own models of weapons and military equipment.
    At the same time, Belarus probably does not forget that at one time Russia seriously "threw" it, stopping the purchase of many types of weapons and military equipment. For example, the Minsk Tractor Plant made excellent chassis for the Tunguska. But someone in Russia decided that their Belarusians were nafig, and organized the production of these chassis at home. The step on the part of Russia is probably logical, but as a result, a lot of people in Belarus, employed in the production of this chassis and its components, were left without work and the budget lost a superfluous extra penny. This is remembered for a long time
  8. Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 April 8 2014 14: 59
    +3
    MZKT-590100 "Umka".

    Umka ... In the language of one of the peoples of the Far North, this means a cub of a polar bear. And there was such a cartoon in Soviet times ...
    1. svp67
      svp67 April 8 2014 19: 34
      0
      Quote: Chicot 1
      Umka ... In the language of one of the peoples of the Far North, this means a cub of a polar bear. And there was such a cartoon in Soviet times ...
      And now, so the flight attendants of small children - passengers are called ... But in general, OUR, RUSSIAN - peacefully and sweetly by name, but God forbid the enemies to find out what it is in business.
      1. Alibekulu
        Alibekulu April 8 2014 20: 54
        0
        Quote: Chicot 1
        Umka ... In the language of one of the peoples of the Far North, this means a cub of a polar bear.
        .
        Quote: svp67
        And now, so the stewardesses of small children - passengers are called ...
        My uncle, as he drinks, so calls his wife ... lol
  9. Nitarius
    Nitarius April 8 2014 15: 29
    0
    Difficult to give an ASSESSMENT! in BATTLE only REALLY SUCH MACHINES MANIFEST!
    1. svp67
      svp67 April 8 2014 19: 35
      +1
      Quote: Nitarius
      Difficult to give an ASSESSMENT! in BATTLE only REALLY SUCH MACHINES MANIFEST!
      Yes, but also for many years of operation ...
  10. Sergey Minin
    Sergey Minin April 8 2014 15: 49
    +3
    Umka ....) for the BTR name is funny)
  11. gregor6549
    gregor6549 April 8 2014 15: 58
    +2
    I will add another 5 kopecks to what was said earlier. It should also be remembered that Belarus at one time was the leader in the USSR in the creation of an automated control system for the ground forces "Maneuver" and has extensive experience in placing the appropriate electronics and "kibenimatics" on armored personnel carriers, infantry fighting vehicles and other mobile platforms. Moreover, she managed to maintain both production capacity and the main backbone of specialists working in the field of creating such systems. So I won't be surprised if the "Maneuver" ACS will soon be revived in Belarus, albeit under a different name, for example "Dumka", which means "thought" in Belarusian. And Russia will not give up competent thought, just as China did not give up the "Maneuver"
  12. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 April 8 2014 16: 47
    +4
    Well, Belarusians should not be discounted, especially when they got a similar miracle machine - 2T "Stalker":




    But, given the not very rosy financial situation, it is hardly believed that an armored personnel carrier will be built.
    1. 52
      52 April 8 2014 17: 45
      0
      here I climbed on different tank-forum-site-Wed..chakh. not like a wunderwaffe, and not floating, and the complex of reconnaissance and radar weapons is not comme il faut. Rather, a "demonstrator" of technologies.
    2. cosmos111
      cosmos111 April 8 2014 18: 37
      +1
      Quote: Novel 1977
      Belarusians should not be discounted, especially when they got a similar miracle machine - 2T "Stalker":

      on such armored vehicles as 2T "Stalker", it is necessary to stir mobile ATGM complexes (((
      still, the MTO, in the nose, corps, and the airborne squad, for 8-fighters, he would not have a price (((

      similar to armor ....
      Quote:  
      It was proposed to use an electric one with a separate electric motor on each wheel.

      such projects have already been implemented, in Sweden the following has been developed: SEP on tracked and wheeled chassis, with unification by nodes at 75% ((((
      Swedish division of BAE Systems and Swedish Hagglunds with 6x6 wheel formula and tracked chassis ((((
      SEP has two diesel generators, the total power is 100 kilowatts (((
      electric motors are built into the hubs of each of the wheels (((
      length and width of tracked and wheeled6x6: SEP is the same - 5,9 and 2,7 meters, height - 1,9 for tracked chassis and 2 meters for wheels (((((

      the SEP modular platform, with electric transmission, was developed back in 2003, the year, but the Swedes did not go beyond prototypes (((
  13. max702
    max702 April 8 2014 17: 53
    +6
    Electric transmission is the future, mechanics have exhausted themselves, either very expensive or very difficult and the same expensive, in my opinion it is necessary to develop compact diesel generator cells with uniform landing dimensions, connection systems, and control, for example, take a diesel engine from a "transit" or "conveyor" liters 2-2.5 and in a pair with it a generator for 100kv. the dimensions will not be large in the armored personnel carrier, you can cram 4 pieces, and this is 600 l / s and in different places for reliability, it will crawl on one if necessary, 2-3 is enough for a truck, 2 for a jeep! And most importantly, everything is the same, spare parts, maintenance, personnel training, this alone will save a lot of money, and the possibility of interchangeability is just a dream, from any truck it was transferred to an armored personnel carrier or a jeep, if necessary, and vice versa, how much the survivability of units will increase. A large number of issues in a series will sharply reduce the price of diesel generator sets. And do not forget that the C DGS combat unit is not only a means of transportation, but also an autonomous power plant, and this is light and warmth in everyday life at checkpoints, on maneuvers in an open field, and anywhere! And it's worth a lot ..
  14. Alex 1977
    Alex 1977 April 8 2014 18: 33
    +3
    Quote: Canep

    We have a DET-250 tractor with the same principle of torque transmission, and BelAZ trucks also have an electric transmission. I am generally silent about diesel locomotives.

    I know.
    Only military equipment has slightly different operating conditions, service regulations, and so on.
    The devil, he is known in the details.
    With a mine, for example, will we change not only the wheel, but also the advanced electric motor?
    If this joy is accidentally drowned, what procedures for its resuscitation and in what lines will it be able to return to operation?
    BREMA for testing and repair of running electric motors and valves, is there an electrician-electrician position for propulsion systems?
    Together with the department for their preparation?
    Or will we, for the sake of one armored personnel carrier, break down well-functioning supply and service systems, and at the same time training personnel?
    About all kinds of EMP, I am silent.
    You know, I was once wiped out with a single phrase that I remembered for my whole life, and which I then thought deeply about.
    And I understood her deep syromyazhny truth.
    Amateurs argue about performance characteristics, professionals - about logistics.
    1. NOMADE
      NOMADE April 9 2014 09: 16
      +2
      On the one hand, I agree with you, but progress requires "sacrifices". Incl. and in logistics, training system, etc. As an example:
      1) Transition from piston engines to turbojet engines. There were more problems there than in the case of the transition to electrotransmission.
      2) The introduction of radar to the Fleet.
      3) Yes, and the transition to nuclear reactors.
      In general, there were many complex implementations and "transitions".
      1. Alex 1977
        Alex 1977 April 9 2014 12: 11
        0
        Quote: NOMADE
        On the one hand, I agree with you, but progress requires "sacrifices". Incl. and in logistics, training system, etc. As an example:
        1) Transition from piston engines to turbojet engines. There were more problems there than in the case of the transition to electrotransmission.
        2) The introduction of radar to the Fleet.
        3) Yes, and the transition to nuclear reactors.
        In general, there were many complex implementations and "transitions".

        Well, I think it’s not necessary to equate aviation, the navy and the wheeled armored personnel carriers of the SV.
        There, mass character, and the level of material and technical equipment and the training of personnel are different.
        Sorry, the team takes the same ships back at the shipyards and helps to finish building, and then shipbuilders go with them.
        And so, for the sake of interest, the requirements for a mechanic for a driver of wheeled vehicles and an aviation mechanic for the operation and repair of airframes and propulsion systems of aircraft.
        Do you propose to shove every engineer engineer from every factory?
        What would they tidy up armored troop-carrier armored vehicles in order?
        Armored personnel carriers as the basis of motorized rifle units, the largest fleet of lightly armored vehicles a priori should be cheap and reliable.
        No wonder they tried to build them on the basis of automobile units.
        And starting experiments with them is stupidity bordering on crime.
        First, work on something small-scale, consider all the features of operation, comments and suggestions, and on their basis already create a lightweight mass chassis.
  15. Sledgehammer
    Sledgehammer April 8 2014 19: 23
    +2
    I don’t understand one thing, why Belarus, Russia and Kazakhstan do not
    joined forces to create one wheeled platform.
    And for the money would be cheaper and in production.
  16. Gray 43
    Gray 43 April 8 2014 19: 29
    +2
    The one who does nothing is not mistaken, I think Belarusians should try
  17. alone
    alone April 8 2014 21: 21
    0
    In general, it looks pretty good. But it’s real to say what this technique is like, after all kinds of testing has begun.
    P.S. Belarus has extensive experience in the field of defense industry and engineering. One BelAZ is worth it.
  18. vomag
    vomag April 8 2014 21: 26
    +1
    Are you waiting for it, notice or not? great specialists in armored vehicles! but no, you don’t see and don’t want to see ... in the medical machine there is a 2-tower scheme which was abandoned back in the mid-30s! These are the fucking sheep there and pushing the know-how with the miracle of performance characteristics .... and so yeah they drew a cool promise they promised a lot and when they do they will be dragging around the exhibitions for 3-4 years and then ... will stand under the fence .... we have it in everything .....
    1. Moltke
      Moltke April 19 2014 03: 34
      0
      They refused cannon tanks. In armored personnel carriers the ability to fire at two targets. I agree, all the same, it is probably better to have one turret, but with a heavy machine gun.
  19. Alex 1977
    Alex 1977 April 9 2014 11: 50
    +1
    Quote: vomag
    Are you waiting for it, notice or not? great specialists in armored vehicles! but no, you don’t see and don’t want to see ... in the medical machine there is a 2-tower scheme which was abandoned back in the mid-30s! These are the fucking sheep there and pushing the know-how with the miracle of performance characteristics .... and so yeah they drew a cool promise they promised a lot and when they do they will be dragging around the exhibitions for 3-4 years and then ... will stand under the fence .... we have it in everything .....

    Not in everything. And he noticed the two towers naturally, it’s just a private moment of the absurd, it’s not even necessary to discuss it.
    The main chassis, and the number of towers and their armament depends essentially on the customer.
  20. Realist1989
    Realist1989 April 9 2014 17: 15
    0
    Wherever you spit, everywhere there are "universal wheeled platforms", just suddenly everything has become so universal and platform ... but what is this know-how platform? The ability to create others on the basis of one machine? So they were doing this throughout the construction of armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles - a bunch of combat and auxiliary vehicles - self-propelled guns, air defense systems, BREM, KShM, nurses - and what, they also turned out to be "universal platforms"? They clung a pancake to a buzzword, and now they are thrusting into every hole ...
    And directly on the topic "Umka" - not to pull such a project to Belarus alone, they have no money for it. Maybe they will collect one sample in three years, carry it around exhibitions, but it's not harmful to dream about large-scale production to re-equip your army ...
  21. nvn_co
    nvn_co April 9 2014 20: 33
    0
    Why Umka? )))
  22. Morglenn
    Morglenn April 11 2014 13: 58
    0
    promisingly!
  23. Zomanus
    Zomanus April 13 2014 10: 29
    0
    People, let's be honest. Well, the army of Belarus will not stand alone in a massive attack. One horseradish will be attended mainly by Russian technology. Let them make equipment, even try new technologies, but this is purely experimental production.