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How Putin and Yanukovych ordered three cities

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Events in Donetsk and other cities of Ukraine are served in the Russian media as the assertion of the rights of citizens "with the tricolor in their hands" and the unity of the local police with the people. In the Ukrainian editions they write about "separatism", "pro-Russian activists" and Putin's long arm. The so-called Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, A. Avakov, wrote on Facebook: “The Russians are swinging the situation in the country. Putin and Yanukovych ordered and paid for the next round of separatist riots in the east of the country — Lugansk, Donetsk, Kharkov ...




Events unfolded as follows. On Sunday, residents of Donetsk - for the umpteenth time - demanded a referendum on the status of the region. More precisely, about independence. Citizens gathered for a protest on Lenin Square. Protesters prepared for the action thoroughly: in the center of the city appeared the tents of the Russian Bloc Party and the Communist Party of Ukraine. There is no exact data about the number of protesters. They write in the press about two thousand and even ten thousand. UNIAN called the number of "about 2 thousands" ("separatists", of course). But, I think, there were much more speakers. Indeed, because of this mass protest and. about. President Mr. Turchinov did not even fly to fraternal Lithuania.



The entire demonstration of the demonstrators headed from the square along Artyom Street to the regional administration building, surrounded by a double cordon of policemen. There were reports that part of the protesters (about two hundred people) were blocked by police in the building. The version from UNIAN looks like this:

“After the rally on Lenin Square, protesters on Artem Street moved to the building of the Donetsk Regional State Administration. They attacked the militiamen guarding the building and pulled out several shields from them. Separatists are trying to storm. The separatist group managed to break into the building. Another group of separatists broke into the courtyard of the building.

In the window of the Donetsk Regional State Administration, the separatists threw a grenade and entered the building of the Donetsk Regional State Administration. To the administration drove a water cannon.

Pro-Russian separatists who stormed the building of the Donetsk Regional State Administration / Regional Council installed flags of Russia and the forbidden Donetsk Republic on the visor of the building. ”


How Putin and Yanukovych ordered three cities


Here the enemy is clear: these are pro-Russian minded attack aircraft, throwing grenades. The goal of the “separatists” is to convene an extraordinary session of the Donetsk Regional Council and make a decision on holding a referendum on joining Russia.

In the Russian media they write that if the demand for the withdrawal of the Donetsk region from Ukraine and the transition to federalization is not met, the protesters will announce the dissolution of the regional council and elect new deputies. The formation of the People’s Regional Council in Donetsk can begin at 12 in the hours of the day local time.



This is how Sergey Arsenichev tells about the assault of the Donetsk regional administration ("News of the Week"):

“Bottles are flying into the glass doors. In the course of the struggle, the attackers take iron shield from the policemen. Armed with them, the crowd goes around and attacks the iron gates.

Under the onslaught of the protesters, it becomes obvious that, despite the order, the police are with the people. The gates open.

On the third attempt, the protesters broke into the territory of the regional administration and are now trying to get inside the building. The glass is broken, but iron is hidden behind plastic doors. At this time, a message arrives that the central entrance is also free. People pushed the police and stood a living corridor at the door of the administration. Passions subsided a bit. And he rose again when the flag of Ukraine was lowered from the flagpole, and a tricolor was raised in its place. ”


Regional site 62.ua published the appeal of the current Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Arsen Avakov in Facebook:

“Russians are swinging the situation in the country. Putin and Yanukovych ordered and paid for another round of separatist unrest in the east of the country - Lugansk, Donetsk, Kharkov.

People gathered a little, but aggressiveness rolls over. In Donetsk, a lot of children and women were brought into the crowd storming the building. They provoke a transition of conflict into the blood and the victims. ”


According to Avakov, the answer to “separatists”, as well as “hot heads” (that is, those “who demand ANY COST to end the unrest”) will be bloodless. Militiamen already received the corresponding command.

“The Ministry of Internal Affairs will not shoot at people - there are many deceived, many who came for money among the protesters paid for by the provocateurs among the protesters.”


And here's another Avakov wrote:

“With a simple human language, I will say to all who sincerely experience - everything that is needed and possible is done. Stop scolding and tantrums. They want it. I tell you, we’ll stand it, everything will be put in order. Support, stabilize - do not rock the boat even more. These are the last convulsions of the gang. ”


In his message, Avakov does not use any journalistic or literary-artistic style:

"We will take the reel of paid marginals and we will irreversibly re-open."


Events in Donetsk - is not all that shocked to Ukraine on Sunday. Rallies were also held in other eastern cities.

Residents of Lugansk called for the resignation of the “authorities” in Kiev, as well as for the release of the people's governor of the Luhansk region, Alexander Kharitonov. Protesters control the building of the Security Service of Ukraine: a tricolor hangs above the entrance. In the churches of the city bells are beaten.

The Ukrainian press writes that the local “separatists” totaling three thousand people seized a branch of the National Bank of Ukraine. These people are unn calls "Well prepared thugs." The agency writes that "captures of other strategic objects are being prepared."



"... the streets of Lugansk are barricaded, to the separatists constantly bring up commodity containers of unknown content."


In Kharkov, citizens with Russian flags gathered near the monument to Lenin. Their main slogan: "Russia! Ukraine! Belarus! One people! One история! One future! ”



Chronology of events in the city tracked site "City Watch". It is reported that the administration building there began to storm at nine o'clock in the evening - the cries of "Russia." Police did not resist; policemen greeted with friendly shouts: "Well done," At eleven o'clock in the evening, after the police had left the administration building, activists said that in Donetsk Yanukovych has landed. The main requirement of the "separatists", the website notes, is the holding of a referendum on the federalization of the region.

Kharkiv events are not alarmed by Mr. Klitschko. Writes "Correspondent.net", the leader of "UDAR" said: "The authorities should immediately intervene in the situation in the east and not let the country split and disrupt the elections. Top Interior Ministry forces and security services must work in the Donbass in the prevention and the prevention of separatist provocations. " Klitschko is convinced that "the riots are not satisfied with the ordinary people, and thugs, incited by a handful of visiting armed provocateurs". He advised the authorities to apply adequate measures: "And the organizers of the provocations should have adequate and harsh reaction of the authorities to such actions."

Abroad, Mr. Saakashvili got excited. Facebook user Mikheil Saakashvili wrote on my page following:

“Three days ago in my article I predicted a seizure of an ode in the eastern regions. If saboteurs hold out there for 48 hours, the Russian army will invade. This is exactly the same scenario in Crimea first meeting and if it does not work then capture and Russian invasion ie the first plan of Surkov and then activated Patrushev. This is all so primitive simply that the Ukrainian authorities can calculate everything in advance. Now the main thing is complete mobilization to protect the eastern borders of Ukraine. We should also especially beware of the possibility of direct disobedience on the part of some local commanders of the Ukrainian Armed Forces since the GRU was especially prepared in this direction. ”


(The administration of "VO" asks readers not to send messages about grammatical errors in this quotation: it is published without editing.)

As for the Ukrainian government, it has already voiced the planned measures. More precisely, she described her own peacefulness.

Last night, the Ukrainian Interior Ministry issued a statement, which states: "... in Kharkov, Donetsk, Lugansk shares held separatist-minded activists, who were accompanied by attempts to seize government offices. Our position remains unchanged - according to the Constitution every citizen has the right to assemble peacefully without weapons to discuss current issues and concerns. But mass actions, accompanied by violence, seizure of buildings, property damage - is the Law "Interior Ministry even recalled about the Criminal Code and threatened to five-eight years of his release" instigators. "


Kharkov. Captured "pravoseki"


Well, the amazing thing! .. "euromaidan" that all the above ( "violence, seizure of buildings, property damage") was accompanied and where even police officers were killed, was "heroic" and "popular" ( "Glory to the heroes"), and the relatively peaceful protests Donetsk and other cities declared "outside the law" (even with a capital letter). It is clear that the new government in Kiev considers lawful only that which had set her, her beloved, in the chairs of different “and. about.". Everything else, runs counter to the will of the people (or more precisely, self-proclaimed Kievan rulers, and more precisely - overseas will), in strict accordance with the western double standards is called "separatism", "seizure", "storm", "corruption", and protesters are to the vile category of "paid fringe" or "visiting armed provocateurs." The Kremlin is paying these “saboteurs”, of course, apparently through Surkov’s quiet mediation. Well, the "customer" of unrest - Putin himself, who assents to Yanukovych. This is exactly what some “inevitable squeezers” think. Ukrainian pro-US press remains only to write that "commodity container of unknown content" Russian "thugs" drove up in Lugansk secret weapon. Chemical borrowed from Assad ...

Observed and commented on Oleg Chuvakin
- especially for topwar.ru
In Kharkov, beat the "Right Sector"



Kharkov. Beaten militants "Right Sector" crawling along the corridor of shame



Appeal of the United Southeast Headquarters

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  1. Igor39
    Igor39 April 7 2014 11: 29
    +84
    Let them only shoot at someone, the Russian army will immediately be in Kiev, they understand this.
    1. Turik
      Turik April 7 2014 11: 33
      +163
      The wording - "aggressive separatists" has killed.
      And the motherfuckers who raskherachil half of Kiev are "peaceful protesters"?
      1. Nevsky_ZU
        Nevsky_ZU April 7 2014 11: 37
        +22
        Guys, who are from the Crimea, allegedly there was an attack on a military unit of the Russian Federation at night?
        1. Apologet.Ru
          Apologet.Ru April 7 2014 12: 25
          +19
          hi
          According to Dmitry Tymchuk, head of the Center for Military-Political Studies, the deceased was a Ukrainian soldier with the rank of major - hence, in my opinion, the conclusion - resentment + alcohol drove to death.
          And frankly, if this is so, then it is a pity that everything turned out that way ...
        2. Sevastopol
          Sevastopol April 7 2014 13: 11
          +20
          drunk and drunk climbed into the former Ukrainian, and now the Russian part. began to beat a soldier of the Russian Federation at the checkpoint. he shot.
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        3. archi.sailor
          archi.sailor April 7 2014 13: 15
          +2
          on rambler was about the attack in Saki, dear Nevsky_ZU hi but now something was removed
        4. aleks 62
          aleks 62 April 7 2014 13: 51
          +22
          .... It was ... The former Vuykain military men, offended by the grave fate, were drunk and attacked the checkpoint in Novofedorovka (near Saki) ... One of the attackers (former Major of the Vuykain Armed Forces) received a bullet and introduced himself, one was detained and now I am .. TSA turns the FSB, the rest courageously chewed .... Right now they will untwist him and catch the rest ....
        5. mvv
          mvv April 7 2014 23: 12
          +3
          was provocation and weapons were used according to the UG and the Constitutional Court.
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov April 7 2014 11: 39
        +46
        Quote: Turik
        And the motherfuckers who raskherachil half of Kiev are "peaceful protesters"?

        They are heroes. Traitors and murderers can always be elevated to the rank of a hero, the main thing is to have the power to do this.
        In Kharkiv, people are passive, but Lugansk and Donetsk are more serious. And now it’s good that on the Ukrainian canals they talk about separatists, people are angry when they call him names.
        1. Nevsky_ZU
          Nevsky_ZU April 7 2014 11: 42
          +42
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: Turik
          And the motherfuckers who raskherachil half of Kiev are "peaceful protesters"?

          They are heroes. Traitors and murderers can always be elevated to the rank of a hero, the main thing is to have the power to do this.
          In Kharkiv, people are passive, but Lugansk and Donetsk are more serious. And now it’s good that on the Ukrainian canals they talk about separatists, people are angry when they call him names.


          Donetsk and Lugansk are the prototype of "Chelyabinsk peasants", and in Kharkov there is a "labor intelligentsia" (engineers, qualified workers), not to be confused with the classic rotten intelligentsia.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov April 7 2014 11: 46
            +27
            Quote: Nevsky_ZU
            , not to be confused with the classical rotten intelligentsia.

            Now this is changing something. If people want to go to the end, then they will go, if not, then nothing will happen. Then, when there is nothing to eat, then yes, everyone will be on the streets.
            1. Tersky
              Tersky April 7 2014 11: 58
              +16
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Then, when there is nothing to eat, then yes, everyone will be on the streets.

              But it will be too late ...
              1. Canep
                Canep April 7 2014 12: 23
                +21
                Quote: Tersky
                But it will be too late ...

                A week later, people will be billed for communal services, and prices in stores have already skyrocketed (I just talked with Ukrainians who came to us to work). I think when people see the numbers in the accounts, not only the east will explode, but half of Ukraine. The main thing is to shatter it so that the most pro-Western observers recognize the impossibility of holding a presidential election in Ukraine, after which Ukraine itself will fall apart.
                1. Cnbv
                  Cnbv April 7 2014 18: 57
                  +7
                  Do not Ukraine fall apart. Let them live in a sovereign, friendly state of Russia. They themselves have muddied independence and overslept the coup d'etat - they will correct it themselves. I am sure! Ukrainians are strong people, if motivated, then the soldiers are excellent! So everything will be fine. The people are not. They will sweep away these crooks at a time. Although the krovushka will spill .... But, one can not do without it - the price of insight.
                  1. Egoza
                    Egoza April 7 2014 19: 07
                    +1
                    Quote: cnbv
                    Do not Ukraine fall apart.

                    So Turchinov thinks so! laughing

                    Rada will tighten responsibility for separatism - Turchinov
                    The Verkhovna Rada will strengthen responsibility for separatism. About this during an appeal to the citizens of Ukraine, acting President, Parliament Speaker Alexander Turchinov.
                    "Tomorrow the Verkhovna Rada will consider a law on increasing criminal liability for separatism, banning the activities of political parties and public organizations that promote separatism," Turchinov said. He also noted that the protection of the eastern border of Ukraine has been strengthened.
                    "The protection of the eastern border of our country has been strengthened. Taking into account the passive behavior of some law enforcement agencies, they will be replenished at the expense of units from other regions," Turchinov said.
                    "Yesterday, the second wave of the Russian Federation's special operation against Ukraine began, the goal of which is to destabilize the situation in the state, overthrow the Ukrainian government, disrupt the elections and tear our country to pieces. Ukraine's enemies are trying to play out the Crimean scenario, but we will not allow this," he said.
                    "The Anti-Crisis Headquarters was created, anti-terrorist measures will be taken against those who took up arms," President. He noted that to coordinate the activities of power structures, the government sent to Kharkiv the Minister of Internal Affairs Arsen Avakov, to Donetsk - the first vice prime minister Vitaly Yarema, to Luhansk - the secretary of the National Security and Defense Council Andrey Parubiy and the head of the SBU Valentin Nalyvaichenko.
                    Recall, on March 6, mass actions took place in the South-East, as a result of which the buildings of the Security Service of Ukraine in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions and regional state administrations in Kharkov and Donetsk were seized.
                    Let us remind you that on February 20 the Verkhovna Rada adopted a resolution "On condemning the use of violence that led to the death of people." According to this decree, the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine, the SBU, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Ministry of Defense and the military and paramilitary units subordinate to them are ordered not to allow the use of force. It is also forbidden to use any types of weapons and special equipment against protesters, blocking by law enforcement officials of transport communications, streets, squares, lanes, boulevards in Kiev and other settlements of Ukraine.
                    Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-142836.html
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              2. Arberes
                Arberes April 7 2014 14: 58
                +15
                It's nice to see how crap banderlogs on zirls crawled along a living corridor! It will be something to share with fellow tribesmen on the Maidan. Maybe morons will decrease?
                1. cdrt
                  cdrt April 7 2014 17: 55
                  -2
                  Quote: Arberes
                  It's nice to see how crap banderlogs on zirls crawled along a living corridor! It will be something to share with fellow tribesmen on the Maidan. Maybe morons will decrease?


                  And it was unpleasant for me. How unpleasant it was to watch how the "titushki" were mocked in the same way on the Maidan.
                  Both those and these are stupid kids.
                  Steep, until piled up, and how to catch - a frightened patsenva.
                  Some with some beliefs, others with others.
                  And as a result, the country and people are torn to pieces (well, or part of the Russian people - as you like).
                  How then they will live together (at least in one country, even in neighboring countries).
                  1. Tersky
                    Tersky April 7 2014 20: 01
                    +6
                    Quote: cdrt
                    How then they will live together (at least in one country, even in neighboring countries).


                    They’ll live in the neighbors, only some will live, while others will survive .. At the expense of together, I doubt it deeply ..
                  2. mvv
                    mvv April 7 2014 23: 13
                    +1
                    you must answer for your actions. when they pravoseki recorded what they thought and what?
                  3. GHOST_AAA
                    GHOST_AAA April 8 2014 02: 26
                    0
                    They will never live together, people are tired of the fact that the "Ukrainian authorities" have been holding them for WO * LO since 1991, when the union collapsed.
                  4. Setrac
                    Setrac April 8 2014 13: 43
                    +3
                    Quote: cdrt
                    Both those and these are stupid kids.

                    A foolish kid goes fishing and runs after the youngsters, and these are quite established criminals, and no pity for them can be shown.
                    As the song says: the enemy always remains the enemy, do not share bread with him, do not call him into the house.
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8j2iGEwlEs
                  5. Manager
                    Manager April 9 2014 13: 06
                    0
                    Quote: cdrt
                    Both those and these are stupid kids.

                    Hands of these idiots ruined the country. It is fair to send them to Kalyma and the instigators to the wall. All.
                2. Viktor Shmagin
                  Viktor Shmagin April 7 2014 18: 22
                  +3
                  Yes, it’s clear that one of the golden eagles invented, avenged those who were put on their knees in Lemberg
            2. Alex Danilov
              Alex Danilov April 7 2014 12: 38
              +25
              "Then" - it may not be. It is necessary to see prices now. Men, guys, fighters, stand! Do not retreat! Not one step back! Call the rest of the Southeast! Call the police, law enforcement agencies, speak to your side. Consult with Aksyonov Sergey, use the connection. Not one step back!
              1. Canep
                Canep April 7 2014 12: 54
                -8
                Quote: Alex Danilov
                . It’s necessary here, now. Men, guys, fighters, stand! Do not retreat! Not one step back!
                And you yourself go and wait, what is the risk of holding a meeting here.
                1. Alex Danilov
                  Alex Danilov April 7 2014 13: 08
                  0
                  kind of smart? banderlog?
                  1. Canep
                    Canep April 7 2014 13: 38
                    +6
                    Click buttons
                    Quote: Alex Danilov
                    Do not retreat! Not one step back!

                    maybe every loser, you go to the square and show yourself there, organized a maidan here, you probably want to shoot some pluses. Good luck.
                2. Svetlana
                  Svetlana April 7 2014 13: 37
                  +25
                  Guys, do not quarrel. No one should go there and rally. Ukrainians themselves must decide their fate now. If they allowed such a mess in themselves, then correct it ourselves. If they call for help, then only those who can and want to go.
                  "No one will give us deliverance:
                  Neither god, nor king, nor hero.
                  We will achieve liberation
                  With my own hand! "
                  1. Rurikovich
                    Rurikovich April 7 2014 18: 53
                    +4
                    Quote: Svetlana
                    Guys, do not quarrel. No one should go there and rally. Ukrainians themselves must decide their fate now. If they allowed such a mess in themselves, then correct it ourselves. If they call for help, then only those who can and want to go.

                    Madam, truth is heard from your lips! The people (or part of the people) themselves must forge their future, since everything is spinning like that. Someone wants to crack cookies, and someone wants to work normally.
                    But in my soul I am for the Russians
                3. mvv
                  mvv April 7 2014 23: 15
                  +2
                  I’ll be ordered a mob - I’ll get to Washington, not like Kiev. If only there were enough fuel and shells for my still dearly beloved Msta-S board number 943
                4. Manager
                  Manager April 9 2014 13: 08
                  0
                  Quote: Canep
                  And you yourself go and wait, what is the risk of holding a meeting here.

                  That's when in our cities, God forbid, this will happen, then we'll go out into the streets.
              2. Burmistr
                Burmistr April 7 2014 13: 39
                -16%
                They ask me questions about Ukraine, what should I do?

                The answer will be tough and cynical. Do not look at my answers as at my position. This is not a position, it is a designation of the reality of life. Knowing the reality, many people can avoid death and mistakes regarding the safety of their family. Deaths are expected in Ukraine. The purge of the population will begin. It is advisable for people to get away from politics altogether. Do not choose presidents. Nothing depends on the choice of the population. Whom they put, that will be. Poroshenko buys a chair. Will buy. He has in his hands the media, TV. This means that the psychotronic weapon of influence on the population, suggestion and pressure on the consciousness of the masses.

                Humanity is undergoing a transitional period to complete degradation. People cannot see and understand what they are doing. Now the psycho-processing of human consciousness is in full swing. Invisible, through TV, through the phone, through the frequencies of the towers that furnish each settlement. The will of people is paralyzed, consciousness is headed in the right direction.

                Of course, this is a mockery of the brain, over the body. Because people with such external processing do not belong to themselves. They literally hang on puppet strings. People are not allowed to think. Uncle players think for them. People no longer need brains. Only animal instincts are needed. Man does not notice his degradation.

                People think that they can unite in groups themselves, go out with posters, and this will be their will and desire. Unfortunately, even for them to come out with a banner, actions are taken behind the scenes to encourage people to take these steps. Today there is not a single large city that would not be controlled by psychotronic weapons.

                When asked what to do? I’ll say nothing. Sit quietly at home, live your life. Do not listen to politicians. Do not go to rallies. It is all over. What people hoped for in Ukraine did not happen. Power remained in old hands. Are the faces new? no. New names? No. Other presidential contenders? Yes, others: disgustingly weak, ridiculously flawed, you can’t look at them without irony (Yatsenyuk and Turchinov). But this is one team with the old power. Out of the limits, none of them sets foot. The poorer the person in power, the more dependent and controlled. In Ukraine, all the power lately belonged to the oligarchs. They were in sight. Now the oligarchs have gone into the shadows. They are behind the screen, on stage are the Yatsenyuki men and others. The Verkhovna Rada is no longer even a tool. This is a cancerous tumor that urgently needs to be amputated.

                Ukrainian oligarchs are afraid of losing capital. Other mechanisms have been launched into the country, hitherto unknown in the country. The oligarchs themselves have little understanding of this. Now their place is to observe from the side what professionals will do with their country. No one is dedicated to real distant plans.

                In conclusion, I want to say that there are no different governments in the world. The government is one. The plan of life for the world is worked out in one room, from where orders are issued to the presidents of state formations. All presidents are basically twin brothers. Their thoughts are one. Their blood is one. Do the words say different? Their words are different to resent the minds of their fellow citizens. Indignation, negative emotions block the mind tightly. A blockage of consciousness leads to animal aggression.

                Aggression, anger - those are the states of the human nervous system in which the perception of psychotronic influence is good. Falling into aggression you open the gates of your body to control and kill you as a living thinking organism. Those who fall into aggression will die first. They will climb on the embrasure, not seeing the danger to life. Safety fuses for such people are absent. The program turns on: toggle switch -.

                Source http://kara-dag.info/moe-mnenie-13-chto-delat-ukraincam
                1. sv68
                  sv68 April 7 2014 16: 39
                  +9
                  in vain you put this crap here, the text is purely decadent, like if you are beaten with patience and then still say thank you do not forget, complete dregs
                  1. cdrt
                    cdrt April 7 2014 17: 58
                    +2
                    Quote: sv68
                    in vain you put this crap here, the text is purely decadent, like if you are beaten with patience and then still say thank you do not forget, complete dregs


                    Well ... basically the idea of ​​the gospel laughing seem to be.
                    Decline - og.
                2. Artyom
                  Artyom April 7 2014 17: 49
                  +8
                  all this crap could be described shorter:
                  "dear! I'm being raped!
                  Be patient, dear, maybe everything will resolve by itself! "
                3. jktu66
                  jktu66 April 8 2014 09: 55
                  +1
                  The head is given to man to think, and not repeat someone’s words. There is such a science, logic. Plato, Aristotle substantiated it. The science of right thinking. I advise you to study in order to easily separate the truth from the garbage.
            3. cdrt
              cdrt April 7 2014 17: 50
              +2
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Now this is changing something. If people want to go to the end, then they will go, if not, then nothing will happen. Then, when there is nothing to eat, then yes, everyone will be on the streets.


              As long as there are some really fighting people there, and the whole mass - according to FIG. The whole rally yesterday - 2-3 thousand are visible.
              If it goes the same way, everything will die out by itself.
          2. Ivan_Ivanov
            Ivan_Ivanov April 7 2014 11: 55
            +11
            In childhood, we argued. Now I know.


          3. Don
            Don April 7 2014 15: 14
            +18
            Quote: Nevsky_ZU
            Donetsk and Lugansk are the prototype of "Chelyabinsk peasants", and in Kharkov there is a "labor intelligentsia" (engineers, qualified workers), not to be confused with the classic rotten intelligentsia.

            Well, we Donetsk engineers are not made with a finger either. But Kharkov think no worse than us.
          4. Apologet.Ru
            Apologet.Ru April 7 2014 18: 40
            +7
            hi
            To crush the Bandera-Nazi bastard..ch, without any pity! Otherwise, after the 25 of May, the whole Southeast of Ukraine will not seem enough ...
        2. Ascetic
          Ascetic April 7 2014 12: 02
          +29
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          In Kharkiv, people are passive, but Lugansk and Donetsk are more serious. And now it’s good that on the Ukrainian canals they talk about separatists, people are angry when they call him names.


          In Donetsk and Kharkov, Putin's agents, separatists are taking over buildings. And in Kiev there are pure and innocent onizhedets, natives of the people who were shot by "Berkut".
          The main difference between these events from the previous "Sunday" rallies and seizures is, IMHO, that this time they coordinated in several cities at once by place and time. It is no coincidence that the junta aroused such a panic and such a panic reaction took place. This has not been observed before.
          The people there aren’t organized there. There are no intelligible programs and requirements. There are no leaders, the whole clearing is cleared by the co-bureaucratists Yanukovych and PR, people are mostly confused, but gradually the southeast wakes up.
          Here are some excerpts from letters from residents of Donbas and Lugansk
          Here is what the Bukinist user writes: (taken from the blog ivanoctober)
          I live in three cities of Donbass. I attended 2 rallies on Lenin Square in Donetsk and decided not to go there again, at least for now. I do not understand the ultimate goal of these rallies, the goals change every week: "Donbass is Russia", "Yanukovych to work" now "Support the Berkut". In more than a month, not a single manifesto, program of action or theses of a single pro-Russian or even anti-Khunt organization was published and disseminated. They talked about coordinating the actions of activists from Lugansk, Donetsk and Kharkov. What actions? Where is this coordination? So far, only the SBU is being coordinated, while simultaneously capturing the "people's" governors and mayors. By the way, who are these "people's" people, what have they done useful for Donbass? Many people knew Chaly in Sevastopol and everyone saw the results of his work, therefore they beat him off when he was arrested. I understand that the PR was weeding the electoral bed of Donbass especially carefully, but are there really no teachers, officers or entrepreneurs, unremarkable PR, who really achieved something themselves and helped others to achieve? We are Russian people, we need a leader who sets an example, whom we want to follow.
          Here, the residents of the SE are accused of passivity, and perhaps rightly so. When the inscriptions "Donbass - tse Ukraine" and "Glory to the Heroes" appear in the center of Donetsk and no one paints them over, when they hold rallies on weekends and agree with the existing trade unions on strikes (this is also a strong move, otherwise it is not known who the trade unions are subordinate to and who leads them ), when many frankly do not give a damn about what is happening "maybe it will be somehow, they lived worse" - this is the position of the herd, led to slaughter. But for 25 years the Russian spirit and pride have been pacified in us, and you want us to "do everything ourselves" without a clear idea, without a plan for its implementation, without leaders, instructors and training? This does not happen, and it was not so in Crimea either.
          1. Ascetic
            Ascetic April 7 2014 12: 06
            +29
            This is written by a user from Lugansk

            Let me clarify a little the question with the "miners".
            Miners are not terminators or a panacea. These are exactly the same people as everyone else, well, maybe, simply because of the specifics of the work, they are more united and reckless. They can really constitute a serious force, but only when they are organized, i.e. when the whole mine becomes (with the exception of ventilation and drainage services) or the unification and some sort of protest action begins in an organized way, well, or in the worst case, spontaneously with the subsequent process of self-organization.
            For this, certain prerequisites are needed - delays and cutbacks or non-payment of salaries, a real threat to them and their families, organizers and leaders of the protest.
            Now it is much harder for the miners than before deciding on a protest because of high unemployment and cuts. If you were fired earlier - and to hell with him, after a week you will get a job at another mine, now it’s much harder to do this - part of the mines were closed and the rest were cut.
            Trade unions, as they were the bosses' prostitutes, remained so. The few NPGs (independent miners' professors) are concerned with the economic protection of miners rather than political demands. And they are not all so "independent". Those. no organizer or leader has yet been observed. So far, salaries in our area at the mines of Metinvest are paid without delays, but problems have already begun in the mining assembly organizations adjacent to it - salary delays, and these are also miners and a comrade who came on vacation the day before yesterday and did not receive vacation pay and even an intelligible explanation when he had them will receive - was to put it mildly very angry and called both the authorities and the junta very bad words. This is the "first stage" - the search and determination of the culprit.
            The people "hid". The stores have everything - both groceries and all the usual assortment of consumer goods, only there are noticeably fewer buyers. Yesterday I went to pay for the Internet and asked if the tariffs and prices had changed due to the rise in price of everything and the fall of the hryvnia, almost literally the answer: - What has changed there !!! If only people paid for the old tariffs and did not refuse and did not overdue !!!.
            In general, everyone is beginning to feel the "big ass" - from pensioners to hucksters.
            In a local footcloth (newspaper) I read a couple of times the appeal of local authorities to the consciousness of pensioners - they ask them to pay at least 50 kopecks in a trolleybus by a voluntary donation (ticket price is 1.50 g) otherwise the trolleybus depot will die and pensioners will only have to go for 2.50g for private traders.
            I can’t say for Lugansk itself, because in big cities the mentality of people is slightly different than in small workers' single-industry towns - but in our town, almost everyone would vote for federalization. I think that in Lugansk, if the results on this issue differed, it would not be much.
            It seems that everyone is waiting for something. What? - xs, hackiness or calm before the storm? There are hatskrayniki, and there are those who are ready to take up arms, as indeed everywhere. The impression is that all the rebellious regions are looking at each other - who will start first, "and then we will subscribe later."
            link
            1. Lelek
              Lelek April 7 2014 12: 29
              +8
              There is no cohesion, unity and bright leaders, but just slogans are blah blah blah. request
            2. kodxnumx
              kodxnumx April 7 2014 12: 32
              +5
              I think soon someone will start, although it has already begun, I think we will soon see how the whole gang of watering can run west, let there be maidan!
              1. Jogan-xnumx
                Jogan-xnumx April 7 2014 14: 25
                +8
                Quote: kod3001
                I think soon someone will start, although it has already begun, I think we will soon see how the whole gang of watering can run west, let there be maidan!

                Yesterday was the 6th ...
                1. coserg 2012
                  coserg 2012 April 7 2014 15: 09
                  +5
                  This is the case, everything is clear, short and without snot. Usually such guys do not talk in vain. People will always believe so, and they will follow such people.
            3. Setrac
              Setrac April 8 2014 13: 45
              0
              Quote: Ascetic
              Miners are not terminators or a panacea. These are exactly the same people as everyone else, well, maybe, simply because of the specifics of the work, they are more united and reckless.

              Physically more developed and better organized are the specifics of production.
          2. Uncle
            Uncle April 7 2014 12: 44
            +11
            Quote: Ascetic
            We are Russian people, we need a leader who sets an example that we want to follow.

            The Russians need a Tsar, they are already beginning to understand this.
            1. smoke
              smoke April 7 2014 21: 13
              0
              Restore unity of command.
              As in England - 100% monarchy, without a constitution!
              But to all the rest, elections at 4 years old - how to deftly change an undesirable regime, etc.
        3. Alekseev
          Alekseev April 7 2014 12: 50
          +4
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          In Kharkov, they say people are passive, but Lugansk and Donetsk are more serious.

          Well already something!
          We need another 50-60 thousand to take to the streets with a "neat but strong protest", and it will go! yes
          And the "Banderivska bastard" who settled in Kiev, all these acting and serving employees of the SBU, warn the police through the appropriate channels about personal responsibility for the use of weapons and reprisals.
        4. Turkir
          Turkir April 7 2014 13: 03
          +2
          Latest News - Tymoshenko flew to Donetsk.
          1. smart Fox
            smart Fox April 7 2014 13: 37
            +4
            How flew so and will return, if not faster. A fool with a scythe. where I climbed, they will tear Bosko off and rightly
          2. Quantum
            Quantum April 7 2014 13: 45
            +15
            In a chair or on a broomstick?
            1. Che Guevara
              Che Guevara April 7 2014 23: 05
              0
              Quote: Quantum
              In a chair or on a broomstick?

              Brother, well, neighing, burn esche .... 1000 ++++
            2. SVT
              SVT April 8 2014 04: 21
              +2
              you WHAT, she’s disabled, in a mortar!
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          4. WedVolga
            WedVolga April 7 2014 14: 08
            +3
            An egg-laden or who of their gang there was also trying to fly to the Crimea, so that it was as if Yule did not have to fly back to the mortar.
          5. Jogan-xnumx
            Jogan-xnumx April 7 2014 14: 31
            +5
            Quote: Turkir
            Latest News - Tymoshenko flew to Donetsk.

            She only in her interview threatened to fly out. Do you think she is such a fool that she really will fly to Donetsk? Well, there she will be rolled up with her own gurney under the asphalt! laughing Ponte are cheap, designed for banderlozhskih Selyuk ...
            1. dmitriygorshkov
              dmitriygorshkov April 7 2014 17: 07
              +1
              Quote: Jogan-64
              . Do you think she is such a fool that she really will fly to Donetsk?

              I agree! Like the Egg-to-nose will say-They didn’t let me go! But I really wanted to! Let it go it was different ...
          6. Egoza
            Egoza April 7 2014 19: 12
            +5
            Quote: Turkir
            Latest News - Tymoshenko flew to Donetsk.

            In 15.30 According to information received by Polemic from an informed source, Yulia Tymoshenko, who was planning to fly to Donetsk, was unable to carry out her plan, since Donetsk did not land her plane.
            XXXX
            Further, apparently, she rolled her on an invalid, because ...

            17.30 Tymoshenko: Russian special services seize administrative buildings in Donetsk
            Yulia Tymoshenko stated that the administrative buildings in Donetsk were not captured by Donetsk residents. She stated this at a press conference in Donetsk, the polemic correspondent reports.
            “What I saw today. I drove up to the building of the Regional State Administration, regional council, SBU. These are peaceful, quiet Donetsk residents who walk a hundred meters from the seized institutions, including with children. There are no urgent events that they are trying to describe in the media, fanning conflicts. The city is peaceful, calm and committed to a calm life, ”she said.
            Tymoshenko emphasized that among the people who captured the RSA and SBU in Donetsk, there are no Donetsk residents. “I saw those people who do not look like Donetsk people. Some of the people are military, some are people of a marginal appearance who have nothing to do with Donetsk residents, ”she said.
            According to Tymoshenko, the protesters are divided into two groups - these are employees of Russian special services and people hired by the Russian Federation who behave aggressively.
            “Some of them are armed with the weapons that they stole from the SBU of the Donetsk region,” she said. Tymoshenko expressed confidence that in the next two days the conflict will be resolved peacefully. Recall that on April 6 in Donetsk, protesters seized the buildings of the RSA and SBU.
            Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-142854.html
            1. starhina01
              starhina01 April 11 2014 21: 20
              0
              once again Tymoshenko proves his psychological illness hi I wonder when Julia will understand that to her Khan she will chew a bra? lol
        5. Tersky
          Tersky April 7 2014 13: 36
          +5
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And now it’s good that they speak of separatists on Ukrainian channels, people are angry when they call him names.
          It was through intermediaries that the juntas were reminded of the permission of the Federation Council to send troops. God forbid even a drop of blood will be shed. A no-fly zone will be declared over Ukraine, all planes will go astray and the "government" shobla will freeze in anticipation of the gallows.
      3. COLUN
        COLUN April 7 2014 12: 04
        +7
        To each pravosek on fat shmat fat !!!
        Sala Heroam !!!!
        1. family tree
          family tree April 7 2014 13: 07
          +8
          Quote: COLUN
          To each pravosek on fat shmat fat !!!
          Sala Heroam !!!!

          With pepper. what Baltic. In the tail. And chopik with a mallet to score.
          1. Quantum
            Quantum April 7 2014 13: 47
            +2
            Fat pity! Better on a jar of sprat!
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      4. zzz
        zzz April 7 2014 12: 38
        +5
        Quote: Turik
        The wording - "aggressive separatists" has killed.
        And the motherfuckers who raskherachil half of Kiev are "peaceful protesters"?


        Yes, they have all the formulations are murderous! You read and marvel at it - duplicity raised to a degree of infinity!
      5. aksakal
        aksakal April 7 2014 13: 34
        +1
        Quote: Turik
        The wording - "aggressive separatists" has killed.

        - ha, today is lucky for the "round" pluses! laughing Igor 39 was 28, mine was exactly 30, and Turik was exactly 60. I won 10 rounds with turikov today laughing Record however
      6. moremansf
        moremansf April 7 2014 13: 57
        +5
        Latest news from Donetsk: The Regional Council of the Donetsk Region announced the creation of the Donetsk People's Republic !!!!
      7. visitor
        visitor April 7 2014 14: 03
        +1
        Onezhdeti)))
      8. Andryukha Siberian
        Andryukha Siberian April 11 2014 11: 17
        0
        And just now, the office of the communists was also burned down - "fellows" and "patriots"
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    3. Apologet.Ru
      Apologet.Ru April 7 2014 11: 36
      +24
      hi
      To crush the Bandera-Nazi bastard..ch, without any pity! Otherwise, after the 25 of May, the whole Southeast of Ukraine will not seem enough ...
    4. buzuke
      buzuke April 7 2014 11: 58
      +3
      "We will take the reel of paid marginals and we will irreversibly re-open."

      yeah, let's push. because of such Crimea they have already been squeezed out, soon the Southeast will be squeezed out, moreover, without our help. squeezer, pancake
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 April 7 2014 13: 01
        +7
        Oops, Natsik are fighting in hysteria, the Lugansk police surrendered their boss to the separatists !!! laughing
    5. Alex Danilov
      Alex Danilov April 7 2014 12: 31
      +4
      Yes. Let them just try to shoot. They will be hone then. The Russians will bury them.
    6. srms
      srms April 7 2014 12: 37
      +3
      Chronicle of events in the Southeast
      friend.livejournal.com/897528.html
    7. q_556
      q_556 April 7 2014 12: 53
      +9
      Quote: Igor39
      Let them only shoot at someone, the Russian army will immediately be in Kiev, they understand this.


      In Kiev, they have already been "shot" several times, so what? If we bring in troops now, the whole world will call us aggressors and the matter will not be limited to sanctions.

      Eastern Ukraine now needs to do what Crimeans did, only without the help of our army, namely: to drive out all the supporters of the coup from their cities, elect a new administration, stabilize the situation, hold a referendum, if the people vote for joining Russia - declare independence, and then ask us to consider the possibility of including these cities in the Russian Federation. Only in this way and in no other way, and without our military assistance.
      1. I am proud of Russia
        I am proud of Russia April 7 2014 14: 48
        +3
        Yeah. Agree. So and only so! Very situation for Russia is not very! Although Russia is still blamed ... after all, one scribe has already written an article about the fact that Putin planned the maidan :-). Sorry for the people in Kiev. After all, they now think not by their brains, but by strangers. If they are told every day that Russia is an occupier, then they already believe in it.
      2. zao74
        zao74 April 7 2014 16: 55
        +2
        The key word is "military". And what prevents you from helping in everything else?
      3. Apologet.Ru
        Apologet.Ru April 7 2014 17: 07
        +3
        hi
        What you voiced, dear, is called - CIVIL WAR ...
      4. koshh
        koshh April 12 2014 17: 19
        0
        All right.
    8. Stalevar
      Stalevar April 7 2014 13: 00
      +2
      Julia gathered in Donetsk. Interestingly, will nuclear weapons take with them or not? Without this, she won’t do there ... oh, what should she talk about with the people whom she threatened to destroy. Well, let's see what happens from this)))
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 April 7 2014 14: 16
        +7
        Quote: Stalevar
        Julia gathered in Donetsk. Interestingly, will nuclear weapons take with them or not?

        Yeah, lucky in such a purse: laughing
    9. svp67
      svp67 April 7 2014 13: 06
      +2
      But the people are brutalized that on the one side, this is the face of the CIVIL WAR ... and anyway, who speaks what language, what’s important is what they say ...
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    11. Siberian19
      Siberian19 April 7 2014 13: 19
      +4
      southeast appeal
    12. cdrt
      cdrt April 7 2014 17: 47
      +3
      Pot, do not cook!
      Enough in Russia for one year of conquest.

      All hope is that this will not be annexation, but a form of coercion to federalization.
  2. mirag2
    mirag2 April 7 2014 11: 30
    +8
    Yes, there was already such a conversation, like they are waiting for provocations. Naturally, provocations will be on certain dates: May 1, or May 9.
    But it couldn’t be otherwise, but they bastards already declared the demonstrations on May 1 and May 9 virtually illegal and untied their hands.
    1. Coffee_time
      Coffee_time April 7 2014 11: 52
      +1
      Before the listed holidays there is still a day of cosmonautics, and of course, let us recall Lenin’s birthday for the monuments
      1. Tiamat2702
        Tiamat2702 April 7 2014 13: 49
        +2
        Quote: Coffee_time
        Before the listed holidays there is still a day of cosmonautics, and of course, let us recall Lenin’s birthday for the monuments

        ... and also the day of Hitler's death (April 30) ... the same should be celebrated for "joy" to pravosek and "soboda"
  3. vjatsergey
    vjatsergey April 7 2014 11: 30
    +8
    Well then, the entire right sector must be in the zone under the same articles.
    1. Anper
      Anper April 7 2014 20: 01
      0
      Quote: vjatsergey
      the right sector is all necessary in the zone

      The right sector is blocking the congress of judges in Kiev today - this is more important!
  4. Turik
    Turik April 7 2014 11: 30
    +17
    It’s necessary for men to stay.
    Unfortunately, for the sake of 3 regions, Russia is unlikely to dare to start a war, but if these guys survive at least a week, they will surely be able to secede even without "polite people".

    Well, there in 2-3 months and they will fall for us - under protection.

    The second option is also possible: the right-wingers with SBU will have a roof and they will start firing at everyone, but then the end is a little predictable - in a month another egg-laying & Co will be found hanging from ties that have died by the method of self-strangulation. But this is a civil war.
    1. Interface
      Interface April 7 2014 11: 51
      +10
      This is not an 3 area. There is the whole east. And then south. And then...
  5. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam April 7 2014 11: 30
    +6
    Well, an amazing thing! .. Euromaidan, which was accompanied by all of the above (“violence, the seizure of buildings, damage to property”) and where police officers were killed, was “heroic” and “popular” (“glory to the heroes”), and relatively peaceful protests in Donetsk and other cities are declared "outside the law" (even with a capital letter).

    I think, in the absence of legitimate authority in Ukraine, there is only one solution - a referendum.
    The question will be about the veracity of its results. Maybe we’ll lose western Ukraine. But not a fact.
    Not all there Maidanites.

    .
  6. Uncle
    Uncle April 7 2014 11: 31
    +9
    It is a pity that Muzychko did not get to Avakov.
    1. Sergg
      Sergg April 7 2014 11: 41
      +13
      It is a pity that Muzychko did not get to Avakov.


      These are two subjects subject to criminal liability for the crimes they committed, one dead, the other sits down.
      Friend, you didn’t correctly express yourself about the death of the bastard Muzychka to regret immoral.
      1. Uncle
        Uncle April 7 2014 11: 56
        +4
        Quote: Sergg
        it’s immoral to regret the death of the bastard Muzychka.

        I regret only in the sense that he did not take him to the grave with him.
      2. Flinky
        Flinky April 7 2014 11: 56
        +3
        Nevertheless, it is a pity that he took his secrets to the grave. For example, it would be insanely interesting to hear about a train with nuclear waste standing on the Ukrainian-Polish border.
        1. I am proud of Russia
          I am proud of Russia April 7 2014 14: 58
          0
          Therefore, he carried away that someone (who knows) began to step on his throat. In my opinion, he was ready to ask Russia for help already and hand over all with giblets ....
  7. Oleg Prophetic
    Oleg Prophetic April 7 2014 11: 32
    +33
    why is it impossible for the Southeast to do what band_ram can do, we are for justice, for Russia!
    1. Lelek
      Lelek April 7 2014 12: 34
      +3
      Well, they would have done so without looking back at "what Princess Maria Alekseevna would say ...". bully
      1. Oleg Prophetic
        Oleg Prophetic April 7 2014 16: 03
        +2
        I can’t live in the north and not in the east
    2. Azat Babai
      Azat Babai April 7 2014 14: 00
      +1
      Only it will not be part of Russia like the Crimea, but the new Ukraine without the Nazis without the Nazis !!! good
  8. 311ove
    311ove April 7 2014 11: 33
    +19
    Hurray to REAL Ukrainians !!!! BROTHERS we are with you !!!!!
  9. brainkiller
    brainkiller April 7 2014 11: 35
    +23
    the militia with the people is obvious, apparently the guys remembered well WHO put them on their knees for the performance of their duties.
  10. Monk
    Monk April 7 2014 11: 35
    +7
    The only thing left for the pro-American Ukrainian press was that in the “commodity containers of unknown contents” the Russian “young men” brought secret weapons to Lugansk. A chemical loan from Assad ...


    I think you should not give Western media material for the press.
  11. rugor
    rugor April 7 2014 11: 37
    +4
    Indeed: "The point of view depends on the Bump of the seat."
  12. Sergg
    Sergg April 7 2014 11: 37
    +5
    A. Avakov on Facebook wrote: “The Russians are rocking the situation in the country. Putin and Yanukovych ordered and paid for another round of separatist unrest in the east of the country - Lugansk, Donetsk, Kharkov ... "


    This freak in Magadan to serve his sentence for his crimes against the Russian-speaking people of Ukraine. And the death penalty is better, Avakov is a criminal as his colleagues in Kiev.
    1. kostyan77708
      kostyan77708 April 7 2014 12: 54
      +1
      not colleagues, but accomplices !!! More precisely ...
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  13. plotnikov561956
    plotnikov561956 April 7 2014 11: 38
    +13
    Has the process really begun ...? Now only forward ... otherwise the South-East will be flooded with blood, there is no doubt about it ..
    1. Alex Danilov
      Alex Danilov April 7 2014 12: 51
      +4
      Russian intervene then! Russia will not abandon its brothers!
      1. I am proud of Russia
        I am proud of Russia April 7 2014 15: 20
        +2
        Of course he won't, but that's just all this is now into the hands of impostors in Kiev and their gurus, Western and European ... They are already choking with saliva accusing Moscow of everything that happens in the southeast of Ukraine. It's like the proverb: "I won't see a log in my own eye, but I will notice a speck in someone else's." How tired of all of them already ... all this top European and Uncle Sam overseas. They no longer know what to think of to annoy Russia. And the corrupt Ukrainian government, under the pretext that it leads the people to European life, essentially drives them into bondage and a big ass ...
    2. coserg 2012
      coserg 2012 April 7 2014 15: 30
      0
      Well, I think they won’t have time to fill in, the president got permission for this.
  14. erased
    erased April 7 2014 11: 38
    +9
    Until Zaporozhye and Kherson become ours, there will be no land access to Crimea. So this is just the beginning.
  15. alex47russ
    alex47russ April 7 2014 11: 39
    +7
    Avakov ate porridge greyhounds! Russia will not abandon its brothers!
    1. Azat Babai
      Azat Babai April 7 2014 14: 05
      +2
      More precisely, a dry meal from Obama's mom.
  16. SS68SS
    SS68SS April 7 2014 11: 39
    +5
    "Prisoners of the Pravosek" must, from the TV screen, honestly tell who is taking to the streets of eastern cities of Ukraine, but do not want to honestly themselves, we must explain to them that lying is not good ...
    1. Egoza
      Egoza April 7 2014 12: 02
      +6
      Quote: SS68SS
      "Prisoners of Pravoseki" must honestly tell from the TV screen who takes to the streets of the eastern cities of Ukraine,

      Yeah! Here our TVs will allow this! They immediately prove with foam at the mouth that all these protesters are not miners. the miners are sitting at home, only salary is waiting and calm! This is all paid up muddy water. And in general, somewhere the SBU already stated that the Russian Federation imported helicopters (planes) here. I will find the link - I will lay out more fully.
      1. Russ69
        Russ69 April 7 2014 13: 09
        +4
        Quote: Egoza
        And in general, somewhere the SBU already stated that the Russian Federation imported helicopters (planes) here.

        But what about the statements that the border is locked ... Ah, here the helicopters fly quietly ... smile
      2. brainkiller
        brainkiller April 7 2014 13: 48
        +3
        a dug ditch along the border comes out not quite effective =)))
        1. wasjasibirjac
          wasjasibirjac April 7 2014 14: 56
          +3
          Quote: brainkiller
          a dug ditch along the border comes out not quite effective =)))

          against helicopters? not at all effective.
          1. The point
            The point April 8 2014 14: 09
            0
            Quote: wasjasibirjac
            against helicopters? not at all effective.

            Are you seriously? wassat
  17. KOH
    KOH April 7 2014 11: 39
    +4
    On the radio infa this hour flashed, the rebel warehouse with weapons uncovered somewhere, really not? I don’t even understand in which area ...
    1. brelok
      brelok April 7 2014 11: 48
      +3
      I read the same thing in Little Russia that they took one high-frequency warehouse, they were dispersed. The case is going to a serious collision and apparently will not do without blood ....
      1. Azat Babai
        Azat Babai April 7 2014 14: 25
        +1
        The men have a good idea, but the Nazis are armed. With bare hands armed to the teeth, the blood will be much more and without meaning. As one uncle said exactly a century ago .. Any revolution has at least some sense if it knows how to defend itself .. am
    2. mihailmpmailru
      mihailmpmailru April 7 2014 11: 59
      +2
      Protesters in Lugansk seized weapons stored in the building of the SBU http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1101915
  18. major071
    major071 April 7 2014 11: 41
    +21
    You will excuse me, but I will say rudely: In Kiev, they were stripped! And all the "authorities". And "minister" Avakov begins to whine. Let him whine. I am not a supporter of tough measures, but I would have prepared a dozen pillars with gallows in Kiev ... hi
    1. mihailmpmailru
      mihailmpmailru April 7 2014 12: 00
      +2
      The leaders of the Ukrainian law enforcement agencies went to Lugansk, Donetsk and Kharkov http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1102160
    2. pensioner
      pensioner April 7 2014 13: 50
      +1
      Good afternoon, Vova! hi
      Why don't ordinary lampposts suit you? what They will be stronger and higher. Yes, and in Kiev they will definitely be more than 10 pieces repeat ...
    3. smart Fox
      smart Fox April 7 2014 14: 05
      +1
      But Yanukovych (be it wrong) warned that if the east rises, little will not seem to anyone.
  19. Elle-elle
    Elle-elle April 7 2014 11: 41
    +1
    Avakov said on Facebook that the Kharkiv Regional State Administration had already been freed from the separatists ((((... so the show was over, but how it all began! It hurts.
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU April 7 2014 11: 46
      +8
      Quote: Elle-elle
      Avakov said on Facebook that the Kharkiv Regional State Administration had already been freed from the separatists ((((... so the show was over, but how it all began! It hurts.


      Kharkiv is partly a weak link among Lugansk and Donetsk. There, there is a lot of labor working intelligence + office consumers. And Donetsk, despite the beautiful European avenues and offices, will not let the industrial workers of the city of aglameration, single-industry towns, satellite cities: Gorlovka, Makeyevka, Mariupol, and others, fall asleep.

      Lugansk is not just a Russian-speaking city on 95%, it is an ethnically Russian city on 70% and again engineering and mines.
      1. Niki
        Niki April 7 2014 11: 48
        +4
        Yes, this is only one Avakov so far.

        Are there any other messages from Kharkov? Or is the city covered with jammers?
        1. Flinky
          Flinky April 7 2014 12: 04
          +1
          I signed up with a friend from Kharkov, while there is no information.
        2. KOH
          KOH April 7 2014 12: 06
          +9
          This hour on the radio they reported that the entrances are controlled by masked pro-Russian citizens with shields, so the sabaks are lying ...
        3. Flinky
          Flinky April 7 2014 12: 17
          +1
          http://gordonua.com/news/society/Aktivisty-oprovergli-slova-Avakova-ob-osvobozhd
          enii-Harkovskoy-oblgosadministracii-17218.html here. Do not understand, in short, what is real there.
        4. smart Fox
          smart Fox April 7 2014 14: 06
          0
          I agree. Avakov already reported a lot of things, then Muzychko shot himself in the heart twice, then the Golden Eagle shot at his own and others, what next?
        5. Anper
          Anper April 7 2014 20: 06
          0
          Quote: Niki
          Yes, this is only one Avakov so far

          He was hacked into a Facebook page after this statement. By the way, over the whole day, no faces of the Kiev authorities were shown there - only talk.
    2. shark
      shark April 7 2014 12: 35
      +6
      I don’t really believe in Sunday's protests. It looks like folk fun. Sunday’s capture of the United State Administration. Sincere respect!
    3. Alex Danilov
      Alex Danilov April 7 2014 12: 54
      +2
      Do not panic! Stand, stand until the end!
    4. Egoza
      Egoza April 7 2014 19: 20
      +1
      Quote: Elle-elle
      Avakov said on Facebook that the Kharkov Regional State Administration had already been freed from the separatists (((

      You never know what Avakov peeps! but now at 18.00 p.m. on the news they report that clashes are still going on there! repeat
  20. Zubr
    Zubr April 7 2014 11: 41
    +7
    Events in Donetsk and other cities of Ukraine are served in the Russian media as the assertion of the rights of citizens "with the tricolor in their hands" and the unity of the local police with the people. In the Ukrainian editions they write about "separatism", "pro-Russian activists" and Putin's long arm. The so-called Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, A. Avakov, wrote on Facebook: “The Russians are swinging the situation in the country. Putin and Yanukovych ordered and paid for the next round of separatist riots in the east of the country — Lugansk, Donetsk, Kharkov ...

    And even if paid, and even if ordered. Let them pray to all the gods of Khokhloreikh that they have soaked them in the toilet so far .. wink
  21. ra3eJIeBog
    ra3eJIeBog April 7 2014 11: 42
    +6
    That's right, you need to push this mr.z
  22. RUSS
    RUSS April 7 2014 11: 43
    +3
    The creation of the Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih Soviet Republic was opposed to the Ukrainian People's Republic (UNR), which the creators of the DKSR were perceived as bourgeois [11] [12]. The creation was based not on a national, but on an economic basis [13].

    The idea of ​​an administrative and economic association of enterprises of the Donetsk coal basin and the Krivorozhsky ore district arose in imperial times. Its implementation was the creation in March 1917 of a special Donetsk Committee (supervisor - engineer M. Chernyshov). In the framework of the universal creation of the Councils of Deputies on the territory of Ukraine, two regional associations arose.

    The Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih association took shape in May 1917 at the 1st Regional Congress of Soviets in Kharkov (Socialist Revolutionary Lev Golubovsky was elected chairman of the Council and the Executive Committee).
  23. ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 April 7 2014 11: 44
    +5
    Quote: Turik
    It’s necessary for men to stay.
    Unfortunately, for the sake of 3 regions, Russia is unlikely to dare to start a war, but if these guys survive at least a week, they will surely be able to secede even without "polite people".
    I think a lot will depend on the situation. If there are casualties among the civilian population advocating joining the Russian Federation, then Putin can make a tough decision.
  24. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 7 2014 11: 44
    +6
    They are doing everything right. It is urgent to remove the corrupt power and declare its own people, but only it will have to be protected so that the SBU officers do not single-handedly clean the leaders of the new government. To declare the date of the referendum on behalf of the new government, and in case of violent opposition from the Kiev pseudo-power, seek help from Russia.
  25. Zubr
    Zubr April 7 2014 11: 44
    +4
    Quote: Elle-elle
    Avakov said on Facebook that the Kharkiv Regional State Administration had already been freed from the separatists ((((... so the show was over, but how it all began! It hurts.


    Well, this is not a fact, let's see the news, there is no data yet.
    1. KOH
      KOH April 7 2014 11: 49
      +1
      Avakov sp ... um not take expensive ...
  26. Gagarin
    Gagarin April 7 2014 11: 47
    +8
    ADDED!
  27. Ilja 22
    Ilja 22 April 7 2014 11: 48
    +5
    We jumped, with ... ki, the video at the end is explanatory, the same fate awaits all this trash !! Well done guys, we will not let the fash and bander run wild on Russian soil!
  28. Ilotan
    Ilotan April 7 2014 11: 48
    +5
    From the point of view of the law, the unauthorized seizure of administrative buildings is a crime. But the law is one for all. So gentlemen: Yatsenyuk, Klitschko, Parubiy, Yarosh and others like them - lined up in a column and a march in the zone! Or are all equal before the law, but some are more equal than others? Well, gentlemen Merkel, Ashton and other Obama, explain to people this paradox: why one can, and the other down-and-down?
    1. ksenofont7
      ksenofont7 April 7 2014 13: 50
      +1
      And where is the cookie in the end? repeat
    2. I am proud of Russia
      I am proud of Russia April 7 2014 15: 34
      0
      What can they explain. They won’t be able to openly say that they won’t be able to get bribes for Euromaidan - that’s a verdict to themselves ... and they’ll blame them on their health ... but people aren’t all blinded by rage pictures of the European life expected ....
  29. Old Cynic
    Old Cynic April 7 2014 11: 48
    +5
    Yeah...
    An appeal to people through Facebook ... Well, yes, it can! In Donetsk, every miner, doctor and teacher has a smartphone with this application, unlimited Internet and a subscription to the pages of Avakov and Saakashvili ...

    Saakashvili’s statement smiled particularly:
    This is exactly the same scenario as a rally in Crimea first, and if it does not work then the capture and the Russian invasion, that is, first Surkov’s plan and then Patrushev is involved. This is all so primitive just that the Ukrainian authorities can calculate everything in advance.


    I offer the current "leadership" of Ukraine an even simpler and more primitive plan. Saakashvili's plan:
    1. More Ponte. However, this is already there.
    2. More hysterics about the "rotten katsapov". This is also there.
    3. When it comes down to it, eat the ties intensely and with appetite until they’re full of crap ..., sorry, to the loss of territories.

    The flag is in your hands, dear "leadership" of Ukraine, a drum on your neck, a bell in your nose and a rough anchor in a dupu. And the last one - with paws to the exit, so that they could not pull it out!
    1. I am proud of Russia
      I am proud of Russia April 7 2014 15: 36
      0
      Class !!! You can’t say better! good
  30. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z April 7 2014 11: 49
    +5
    “Euromaidan”, which was accompanied by all of the above (“violence, the seizure of buildings, damage to property”) and where police officers were even killed, was “heroic” and “popular” (“glory to the heroes”), and relatively peace-loving protests are announced in Donetsk and other cities “Outside the law” (even with a capital letter). It is clear that the new government in Kiev considers legitimate only that which has seated her, beloved, in the seats of different "and. about.". Everything else that runs counter to the will of the people (more precisely, the self-proclaimed Kiev rulers, and more precisely - the overseas will), in strict accordance with Western double standards, is called "separatism", "capture", "assault", "corruption", and the protesters are to the vile category of “paid outcasts” or “visiting armed provocateurs”.

    Well written, Western "democratic" standards in action. "Glory To Ukraine! Glory to the heroes !"
    I remembered now, suitable:

    Faces erased, dull colors,
    Either people, or dolls.
    ***
    Harlequins and pirates, circus artists and acrobats,
    And a villain whose appearance inspires fear.
    Wolf and hare, tigers in a cage -
    All of them Puppets
    In dexterous and strained hands.
    1. Goodmen
      Goodmen April 7 2014 14: 47
      +5
      Quote: Starover_Z
      Faces erased, dull colors, Either people, or dolls. *** Harlequins and pirates, circus performers and acrobats, And a villain whose appearance inspires fear. A wolf and a hare, tigers in a cage - All of them are Puppets in dexterous and strained hands.


      The text is good ... and the author went wrong ...
      ... I remember in his youth on the guitars his songs strummed ...
      1. Goodmen
        Goodmen April 7 2014 16: 12
        0
        I’m wondering!
        That dol ... fuck that minus read everything?
        And if that's all, then what's wrong? )))))

        http://korrespondent.net/ukraine/politics/3313468-andrei-makarevych-obratylsia-k
        -rossyianam-voinu-s-ukraynoi-zakhotely
      2. smart Fox
        smart Fox April 7 2014 16: 23
        +2
        I'm not driving in. Is this for whom and against whom? For Russia or against Makarevich, the poor man already so "did not bend under the changing world" that the intervertebral discs flew out and, it seems, together with conscience and morality.
        1. Goodmen
          Goodmen April 7 2014 16: 52
          +1
          Quote: Sly Fox
          so that poor man already so "did not bend under the changing world" that the intervertebral discs flew out and, it seems, together with conscience and morality


          I mean the same.
          But good songs he wrote ... bastard)))
      3. waisson
        waisson April 7 2014 22: 11
        +2
        more about pasta
      4. Fanat1984
        Fanat1984 April 7 2014 23: 24
        +1
        Makarevich is a JEW, he does not understand that we in Ukraine are fighting for our, no, not the country, For the Motherland !!! And on the Maidan, by the way, those who yell: "Death to the Jews!"

        What other words can one expect from a Jew defending ANTISEMITISM? am
      5. Lepo
        Lepo April 8 2014 15: 58
        0
        So why hid the thief in his home?
        Yes, and a coward ....
        Remember how this mug fainted from an egg?
    2. Mestny
      Mestny April 7 2014 17: 03
      +1
      That's better. More consistent, in every sense.
  31. mamont5
    mamont5 April 7 2014 11: 49
    +3
    "" The Ministry of Internal Affairs will not shoot at people - there are many deceived people among the protesters on a handful of paid provocateurs, many who came for money. "
    Is he talking about maydanutyh?

    "The Ukrainian press also writes that local" separatists "with a total of three thousand people seized a branch of the National Bank of Ukraine. UNN calls these people" well-trained thugs. "The agency writes that" seizures of other strategic objects are being prepared. "
    You guys haven’t met the "polite people" yet.

    "But mass actions accompanied by violence, seizure of buildings, damage to property are outside the law!" "
    Wow, they remembered the law. “It’s not better to turn to yourself, godfather”.
  32. Ross
    Ross April 7 2014 11: 49
    +1
    And the Ukrainian press is full of stamps ... Khvilya writes that in Kharkiv the "harmless" musicians who were conducting the Maidan in Kharkiv were attacked ... "drunk as usual" Russian tourists and beat them calling the right sector! They are just poor lambs.
    Yaytsenyuk gathered in the South-East and:
    "The advisers advise him, and the recommenders recommend leaving their jokes about paid rallies, provocateurs and hirelings with you and not showing them in Donbass or Kharkov. The local people, although they are very patient, are now very offended."

    Source: http://polemika.com.ua/article-142787.html#title
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  34. morpogr
    morpogr April 7 2014 11: 50
    +32
    It’s just up to cynicism that we can all be the new government, and in the east and south-east you can neither peacefully nor by law. But now there is no return, you brought the people of maydaun.
    1. skullcap
      skullcap April 7 2014 16: 00
      +3
      Quote: morpogr
      But now there is no return you maydauny brought the people.

      That's right.
      Turchinov, Yatsenyuk, Paruby and other American saboteurs destroyed the country, destroyed the state order and, I hope, will answer for their crimes in the near future before the court.
      1. koshh
        koshh April 12 2014 18: 29
        0
        They will answer for pedophilia and homosexuality.
    2. waisson
      waisson April 7 2014 22: 13
      +2
      here's more about us
  35. Wolland
    Wolland April 7 2014 11: 51
    +8
    We are waiting for Lugansk, Donetsk, Kharkov as part of the RUSSIAN FEDERATION ....... a start has been made.
  36. klavyr
    klavyr April 7 2014 11: 52
    +1
    Avakov: “We will accept the roll-over of the paid outcasts and will inevitably go back.”
    - Which marginals and even paid ones? In general, what is it about, if about banderlogs from geyromaydan - it looks very much like the truth
  37. Coffee_time
    Coffee_time April 7 2014 11: 55
    +4
    There is a Russian spring for every euromaidan. Here
  38. Smirnov Vadim
    Smirnov Vadim April 7 2014 11: 55
    +16
    In the MAKEEVKA in the morning of April 7, the workers stopped the work of the Yasinovsky Coke Chemical Plant (YKKHZ)! In the morning, after coming to work, people said that today they would defend the protesters and even under the pretext of dismissal they would still go to support the activists of the Donetsk city administration! At the moment, people are very determined, the buses are already preparing for an organized departure for the Oblast State Administration, the kitchen of the plant also does not stand aside and is preparing food support !!! !!!

    And more:

    Privatbank is preparing a lock on accounts and restrictions on the issuance of cash in Kharkov, Lugansk, Donetsk regions. It will be like with the Crimea - First, they will make a limit on withdrawing money from ATMs, and then they will turn off the ATMs altogether, and close the branches. The so-called fight against "separatism". First-hand information - my wife's friend works as an operator at Privatbank. Whoever has what is on the cards, personal funds, deposits - withdraw everything, otherwise either you will not see your money soon or you will not see it at all. Notification of all acquaintances, friends, relatives.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 7 2014 12: 18
      +6
      Quote: Smirnov Vadim
      Privatbank is preparing a blocking of accounts and restrictions on the issuance of cash in Kharkov, Lugansk, Donetsk regions

      This will add even more kerosene. The people will begin to storm not only the Administration and the Security Service of Ukraine. They will want to eat Poroshenko with cancer.
    2. Little Muck
      Little Muck April 7 2014 12: 27
      0
      The branches of this bank simply need to be seized, and its defenders cleaned (blamed). So that human money does not flow like in the Crimea.
  39. mamont5
    mamont5 April 7 2014 11: 56
    +1
    What else can we expect from this Ukrainian "power"? Are they going to blame themselves?
    Their path is violence, and where they cannot, there are provocations. In Crimea again trick ukrov.

    “In Crimea, on the night of April 7, security officials repulsed an attack by hooligans at the checkpoint of a military unit and a garrison hostel in the west of the peninsula, RIA Novosti reports with reference to the Ministry of Internal Affairs in the republic.
    The information that 10 unknown arrived at the checkpoint arrived at the Saki city police department on duty around midnight. The aggressors threw stones and beat glass in the checkpoint building. An outfit of law enforcement officers went to the scene. When they arrived at the checkpoint, the hooligans were already hiding.
    At the entrance of the dormitory, five drunken men attacked officers of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and a military patrol. During the ensuing struggle, one attacker was mortally wounded, another was detained, and three escaped. One of the soldiers of the garrison patrol received a concussion from being hit by a blunt object in the temple area, he was promptly given medical assistance.
    The Ukrainian media are presenting a completely different version of the incident in the hostel. The head of the Crimean media center of the Ministry of Defense Vladislav Seleznev told reporters that during the conflict, Russian soldiers shot and killed Major of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Stanislav Karachevsky. "
    http://www.bfm.ru/news/253556?doctype=news
  40. ddd1975
    ddd1975 April 7 2014 11: 57
    +3
    At the western end of Ukraine, it seems that only Mazahists live ... they like to be harder with them.
  41. parusnik
    parusnik April 7 2014 11: 57
    +3
    No, during the Maidan period, everything was possible ... now in Donetsk it is impossible ... And what about your slogan "The law is one for all" .. it turns out that it is necessary for the Maidan, the rest, no, no ..
  42. Grach710
    Grach710 April 7 2014 11: 57
    +8
    And what remains to be done. You live for yourself. And suddenly on you. You are a national minority, your tongue is a doggie rumor, and your grandfather is an invader and an occupier. soldier
    1. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z April 7 2014 12: 13
      +2
      ... and then: "If Russia gives us a loan, then we will repay the debt for gas - they will not give it, we will not repay it."
      The IMF is "robbed" for money here!
  43. zzzeka
    zzzeka April 7 2014 11: 58
    0
    Where are the "polite people"? What are we waiting for? The people seem to have already "expressed" their wishes ...
  44. W1950
    W1950 April 7 2014 11: 59
    +3
    This bhp banderlog should generally be rolled into asphalt. What a moron you have to be to ruin your country.
    1. sso-xnumx
      sso-xnumx April 7 2014 12: 54
      0
      Alexander of Macedon was also a great commander! But why spoil the asphalt? There are many other ways invented by mankind ......
  45. Magadan
    Magadan April 7 2014 12: 00
    +6
    The junta itself will provoke blood, so that there is an excuse to suppress people with bullets. This is scary.
    I expect that again incomprehensible snipers will appear, who will start shooting at the junta military and pravosek people. Then hysteria will follow, saying that "we said it was Yanukovych who gave orders to snipers."
    We need journalists. Need to fix all non video. Let people write every second of what is happening in turn from different angles.
    And do not require joining Russia. It is necessary to demand the arrest of the junta and the investigation of the events during the coup. As well as federalization, the status of the Russian language and criminal punishment for the rehabilitation of Nazism and its servants, such as Bandera.
    1. I am proud of Russia
      I am proud of Russia April 7 2014 15: 58
      0
      All right! The junta already has hysteria ... we thought now we are concocting an euromaidan and that’s all .. we are in armchairs and in gold, we’re scary at the borders of RUSSIA and our people are in Geyropa ... and all is quiet and grace ... but it didn’t work out ... the usual human factor was not taken into account ..
  46. xbhxbr-777
    xbhxbr-777 April 7 2014 12: 03
    +4
    The Southeast needs to be more decisive, and most importantly, unite to choose one leader and fight for their independence! Now is the time, then Russia will be able to say its word!
  47. zzzeka
    zzzeka April 7 2014 12: 03
    +4
    “Listen, baby cub,” said the bear to Balu, “I taught you the Law of the Jungle, but banderlogov has no Law.” Banderlog - outcast. They do not have their own dialect, they use stolen words. They are not our customs. They have no memory. They assure that they are great people, but a nut falls, and they all forget about it. Banderlog is a lot, they are evil, dirty, do not have shame, and if they have any desire, then it is the desire to be noticed in the jungle. They are all going to choose their leader, to draw up their own laws, to invent customs, but they never fulfill their plans. We do not drink where they drink Banderlog, do not move along their roads, do not hunt where they are, do not die where Banderlog dies.
  48. Anton Gavrilov
    Anton Gavrilov April 7 2014 12: 04
    +2
    As 100 man was killed because of his actions, so are the heroes. As people without victims and bloodshed express their will by force, because it is impossible to sit under the current junta, so are the separatists at once. Double standards, as they already managed to pick up from the Americans -with whom you will lead from that and will be typed.
    1. v-sorok
      v-sorok April 7 2014 17: 51
      0
      With whom you will lead, from that you will become pregnant.
  49. Georgic
    Georgic April 7 2014 12: 05
    +3
    Moved off dead center! GOOD GUYS!
  50. Ivan_Ivanov
    Ivan_Ivanov April 7 2014 12: 07
    +9
    Sorry for the confusion, repost.

    ATTENTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Warn the cops, everyone, even those who are against, those who can go on the assault, THAT THE RIGHT-HANDED ARROW SNIPERS / MERCENARIES CAN WORK FOR THEM, or who shot Berkutovtsev in the matsdana and the Maidan herd there.

    Wherever possible, declare that

    - under no circumstances will you use weapons against the police, which are with the people, against Special Forces.

    - Fighting, resisting is one thing, weapons are another and no one will shoot.

    - Speak constantly and warn. Constantly tell all correspondents, at every conversation with the cops, with every cop, that provocateurs can work on them, that they must be careful, that they will always find protection and support in your ranks.

    - Warn them not to substitute !!!!!!!

    Please re-post it wherever possible, bring as many people as possible!
    ================

    Add:
    All the media are coming out shouting that the "separatists" have seized weapons. A provocation is clearly being prepared.

    2 months I tried to reach the maydauns that there would be a provocation, that they would be shot. Did not hear. Try to shout now to the cops!
    1. KOH
      KOH April 7 2014 12: 17
      +10
      Organize a group for catching bitches, and practice purely on snipers, watch lodges with good sectors for shooting, and bury them right there ... am