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The Germans are outraged by the lies of the local media about the Ukrainian crisis

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An unprecedented wave of anti-Russian propaganda launched in the German media against the backdrop of the Kiev coup d'état, carried out with the support of the US and the EU. Not only the leading publications - Der Spiegel, Die Zeit, Süddeutsche Zeitung and Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung - but also the so-called “alternative media”, for example Taz (closely associated with the Green Party) loudly demand military action against Russia in an attempt to outdo each other in malicious attacks on Vladimir Putin, whom they call the new Hitler and the aggressor.


This propaganda campaign, recalling the press conformism of totalitarian regimes, has not yet had the desired effect, writes the World Socialist Web Site. Many readers are deeply perturbed by what is happening and react angrily to the actions of the media. All this can be seen from the published letters in the editorial and online comments on the sites.

19 in March, the editorial board of the Berliner Zeitung was forced to admit: “German newspapers and radio stations receive bags of letters and comments from readers complaining about one-sided coverage. Russia's intervention in the Crimea finds real understanding, and the German media, on the contrary, are accused of conducting an anti-Russian campaign. ”
Even the conservative edition, Berliner Zeitung, noted that 80% of 12 000 readers who participated in the online survey considered Moscow’s official criticism a “model of hypocrisy.” Only pitiful 4% came out in support of "NATO military intervention" or "Russia's exclusion from G8."

Judging by the results of the March opinion poll conducted by the ARD TV channel, 82% of respondents do not want to use military force against Russia. At the same time, two thirds of respondents reject the idea of ​​imposing economic sanctions against Russia.

In the letters and comments addressed to the editors, many readers and radio listeners talk about the active role played by the United States, the European Union and Berlin on Independence Square - a role in the coup d'état against the legally elected Kiev government.

One of the readers of Münchener Merkur writes: “From my point of view, demonstrations in Kiev - with Klitschko at the forefront - are organizationally and financially controlled by the West (i.e., the EU and Europe), and the former US Treasury Secretary in the Reagan administration spoke about $ 5 billion. Since the revival of capitalism in Eastern Europe, the United States has sought to weaken and isolate Russia, as well as to destroy its superpower status. ”

The author is sure: “The US and the EU have already led the Baltic countries and almost all the states of the former Eastern bloc to NATO and the EU. Now they are going to act further, putting forward the idea of ​​membership for Ukraine. Those. they are going to reach the western borders of Russia and provoke the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation ”.

Many readers are disgusted by the trivialization of the role of the fascist party "Freedom" and the statement that the events in the central square of Kiev have something in common with democracy. A series of reports and a series of videos on YouTube clearly reveal the role played by the ultra-right violent fascist forces.

10 March Münchener Merkur publishes a comment from Dr. KHB: “Truth became the first victim of the war. This is a war, and therefore I suppose - neither the leading Russian media, including their state television, nor our media speak the truth. ”

Another reader was outraged by an article published by 18 March in Thüringer Allgemeine “The annexation of the Crimea is akin to Hitler’s invasion of the Sudetenland” and he writes: “a shameless attempt to level Putin with Hitler is again being made.”

The enraged listener turns to Radio Germany: “I have to tell you that I am tired of listening to half-truths and biased reports about everything connected with Russia, performed by your radio station. If I was correctly informed, Radio Germany is the direct heir to RIAS radio station, which has gained a reputation as a fierce propagandist. I think you behave like their heirs. "

A certain E.R. from Erfurt calls the charges against Russia - "the aggressor, resorting to the methods of the 18-th century" - "deliberate slander."

Concerns about the escalation of the threat of war are shared by many. So, one of the readers, still believing that NATO countries will limit their activity to verbal threats, writes that no one wants to “die for the interests of Kiev extremists. An economic war with resource-rich Russia will have fatal consequences for both sides. ”

In a letter to the Braunschweiger Zeitung, a reader with HS initials warns: “War is on the horizon? This should be avoided at all costs. ”

In response to the article “Merkel warns Putin”, published in the Badische Zeitung, the British reader declares: “Attention! This should be especially clearly understood by Germany: humiliation in matters of bilateral and multilateral policy can be fraught with dire consequences! It was the humiliating conditions of the Versailles Treaty of 1919 that caused the Second World War. ”

Some listeners of Radio Germany make direct parallels with the propaganda of the Second World War: “I have the impression that your transmitters are again calling for war with Russia. Your radio station has adopted the megalomania of the great German Reich. ”

Another commentator notes: “Every day, listening to the Nazi calls from the radio station, i.e. The campaign launched by Radio Germany against Russia and aimed at convincing the public of loyalty to the NATO course is beginning to fear for peace and security throughout Europe. ”
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  1. razved
    razved April 7 2014 19: 32
    +47
    The Germans are not completely fooled, it pleases. I would like to hope that they will be able to at least slightly influence A. Merkel and other powers that be.
    1. nahalenok911
      nahalenok911 April 7 2014 19: 37
      +18
      East Germany (GDR), ethnic Germans from Russia ... Probably, not everything is lost?
      1. platitsyn70
        platitsyn70 April 7 2014 19: 44
        +5
        in Europe, order and democracy build proper then teach us.
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        2. Stalker
          Stalker April 7 2014 20: 43
          +7
          in Europe, order and democracy build proper then teach us.
          Teacher, soon your "couple" for these ignoramuses who have forgotten the story !!!!
          1. Revolver
            Revolver April 7 2014 21: 33
            +7
            Vova, maybe not?
            It’s necessary, Barack. I have to!
          2. Corsair
            Corsair April 7 2014 22: 19
            +1
            Quote: Stalker
            in Europe, order and democracy build proper then teach us.
            Teacher, soon your "couple" for these ignoramuses who have forgotten the story !!!!
            But Putin is the LEFT, and holds the whip in his left hand, so it will be ERAD ....
            1. Homo
              Homo April 7 2014 23: 14
              +2
              Putin is not left-handed. You need to know your President better!
      2. Committee
        Committee April 7 2014 20: 01
        +5
        Quote: nahalenok911
        East Germany (GDR)
        the best form of Germans in foreseeable history.
      3. hawk
        hawk April 7 2014 20: 46
        +2
        Merkel is also an eastern German.
      4. GRANATE-19
        GRANATE-19 April 7 2014 21: 03
        +7
        Quote: nahalenok911
        East Germany (GDR), ethnic Germans from Russia ... Probably, not everything is lost?

        Merkel is from the GDR, by the way, but I don't see any inclinations towards the ideals that she was taught in childhood and youth! And by the way, she was an activist in her youth and sincerely "was a Komsomol member", but she was brainwashed by the propaganda of which SHE is now brainwashing her fellow countrymen! Respectfully, I express my humble opinion.
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      7. R1a1a
        R1a1a April 8 2014 01: 05
        +6
        Yes, yes, here we are the so-called fifth column, if only Germany tries to take a peck at Russia, I can’t answer for myself, and we are three million here.
        1. sazhka4
          sazhka4 April 8 2014 10: 07
          0
          Quote: R1a1a
          I’m not responsible for myself, but there are three million of us here.

          And how many of these "posriots" are there in America? And why should Russia feed and protect everyone? Why are you doing "three million"?
          1. R1a1a
            R1a1a April 9 2014 00: 21
            -1
            We feed ourselves, and why we in Germany is a separate sore subject. You just did not understand the meaning of my promise.
            1. sazhka4
              sazhka4 April 10 2014 11: 07
              0
              I was born and lived in Kazakhstan, Dep. Comintern. Posyolok Ilyich. (Now Atakent) I have the right to think and speak. My Homeland, though Urodin ..
      8. aksakal
        aksakal April 8 2014 07: 18
        0
        Quote: nahalenok911
        East Germany (GDR), ethnic Germans from Russia ... Probably, not everything is lost?

        - ordinary Germans remember something, and they do not want to repeat the lessons that they have already passed. But the German "elite" through the mouths of the newspapers they control: Not only the leading publications - Der Spiegel, Die Zeit, Süddeutsche Zeitung and Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung - but also the so-called "alternative media", for example Taz (closely connected with the green party) loudly demand military operations against Russia in an attempt - remember that? It seems that if you repeat the lesson for the Germans - and you have to repeat it - then it is advisable to repeat it pointwise, but very cruelly, namely against all politicians in Germany and against all media owners, as well as against a number of influential people in Germany. How cruel? So much so that they would be remembered for another hundred years. They got it really, they like the rake. So a rake of a different model is needed, but the Germans again wished to fight am
      9. sazhka4
        sazhka4 April 8 2014 10: 01
        0
        Quote: nahalenok911
        Probably not all is lost?

        Winning, of course, It is important .. TO KEEP Victory can only be the Empire .. Judging by the execution of the "May Presidential Decrees". No hope .. not 37 years old ..
    2. user1212
      user1212 April 7 2014 19: 40
      +6
      Quote: razved
      The Germans are not completely fooled, it pleases. I would like to hope that they will be able to at least slightly influence A. Merkel and other powers that be.


      I doubt it. They were in such a hurry to export democracy that they did not leave it for themselves
      1. Nick
        Nick April 7 2014 20: 29
        +2
        Quote: user1212
        They were in such a hurry to export democracy that they did not leave it for themselves

        The question is, did they have democracy ...?
    3. corrado
      corrado April 7 2014 19: 43
      +5
      They have sensible people here, and not a little, but nevertheless the media do not lose hope, they pour mud on Russia and Vladimir Putin, hoping to convince the population. But it becomes noticeable that propaganda is weakening.
      1. sazhka4
        sazhka4 April 8 2014 14: 43
        0
        Quote: corrado
        but nevertheless, the media do not lose hope, pour mud on Russia and Vladimir Putin

        http://www.forbes.ru/sobytiya-photogallery/vlast/79611-putin-oblozhka/photo/3
        An interesting selection. Afraid means Respect ..
    4. Shaki's memory
      Shaki's memory April 7 2014 20: 06
      +14
      Almost every family has a reminder of Russia. They have a long memory .. And 80% of Germany’s losses in WWII are spent on Soviet troops. So it’s hard to forget ... And they understand that in Russian families they also remember and will not caress their ass, if that
    5. GSH-18
      GSH-18 April 7 2014 20: 06
      +2
      Quote: razved
      The Germans are not completely fooled, it pleases. I would like to hope that they will be able to at least slightly influence A. Merkel and other powers that be.

      Do not count on this especially, she was not influenced even by the recent bummer in the Bundestag! Apparently the scoundrels are keeping her in a soft spot! But, that's just not trample against the economy, without Russia and not there and not syudy. All German "steam" safely goes to the whistle lol
      1. hawk
        hawk April 7 2014 20: 44
        +2
        Let's not forget that the best part of the Russian automobile industry, and indeed the entire engineering industry, is also dependent on the Germans.
        1. sazhka4
          sazhka4 April 8 2014 14: 24
          0
          Quote: hawk
          Let's not forget that the best part of the Russian car industry,

          Wow, you ... serious statement. Try to decipher AvtoVAZ OJSC .. I think it won't work the first time ..)))
      2. Walking
        Walking April 7 2014 20: 48
        +10
        The German media seems to have forgotten who surrendered in 1945 and who took Berlin. For all the atrocities of the German Nazis committed in the Soviet Union, the Germans should be thankful that they were generally left as a nation. Can Merkel and her ilk recall this?
        1. GRANATE-19
          GRANATE-19 April 7 2014 21: 18
          +4
          Quote: Hiking
          The German media seems to have forgotten who surrendered in 1945 and who took Berlin. For all the atrocities of the German Nazis committed in the Soviet Union, the Germans should be thankful that they were generally left as a nation. Can Merkel and her ilk recall this?

          REMIND, REMIND and REMIND ONCE AGAIN !!! VOYAGE in all the capitals of Europe, I speak in all - where in all the centuries the RUSSIAN SOLDIER'S FOOT STOPPED !!! THE LEG IS A LIBERATOR SOLDIER !!! Maybe then this obsolete crap @ kratic gay-European trash, led by North American Shit, will understand that it is useless to argue with the TRUTH !!!!! WITH THAT IS DEFENDED BY THE COMMUNITY OF "POLITICAL PEOPLE"! Respectfully, I express my humble opinion.
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        3. Ascetic
          Ascetic April 7 2014 22: 05
          +7
          Quote: Hiking
          The German media seems to have forgotten who surrendered in 1945 and who took Berlin.


          A question to you commentators who put labels on Germans: "Who owns the German media?"
          Response

          TV channels in Germany belong to two friends from Israel who have US and Israeli citizenship at the same time.
          It is enough to type the word “Bertelsmann” media holding in the search engine and everything will become clear.

          Since the fall of 2003, the official control over the media of the "civilized nations of the international community" obtained by buying up most of the shares, concentrated in the hands of only five media giants:

          - “AOL Time Warner”

          - Wycom

          - NBC Universal

          - Bertelsmann

          - Murdoch News Corp

          link

          German media do not have freedom of speech, writes The Intelligence. The online publication is confident that since the German media are influenced by the United States, Russian events are covered in such a way as to "slander and demonize Russia."
          The Big Brother on the other side of the Atlantic even today "directly determines what we read in the newspapers." Therefore, it is not surprising that in Germany, Russians are still considered enemies. The Cold War is still far from over, states The Intelligence: media manipulators take care of this.
          The Intelligence: US Demonizes Russia Through German Media
        4. vinc
          vinc April 7 2014 22: 10
          +1
          For sure, they forgot, otherwise Hitler’s name would not have been uttered by ear. There is enough arrogance.
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      3. visitor
        visitor April 7 2014 21: 51
        0
        Merkel is a politician, and politicians often do not belong to themselves. Moreover, Germany, in fact, has practically no politics of its own. This is an occupied territory. The presence of American bases is confirmation
    6. Coffee_time
      Coffee_time April 7 2014 20: 39
      +5
      Now, if they understand that the US game is started against them (Germans, Europeans) and Russia, then they will begin to understand the destructiveness of their situation. America doesn’t need a strong Europe, it doesn’t need a strong Russia, it needs domination, but one miscalculation, now there’s no way to block the information and there are a lot of sources that social polls show 80% of those who disagree
    7. Native grandfather
      Native grandfather April 7 2014 20: 45
      +2
      Quote: razved
      The Germans are not completely fooled, it pleases. I would like to hope that they will be able to at least slightly influence A. Merkel and other powers that be.

      In the 45th, we popularly explained to them at the genetic level that it’s not good to offend Russians. They don’t want them to explain it to them again.
    8. Imigrantt
      Imigrantt April 7 2014 21: 17
      0
      And there will still be roofing felts !!!!! hi
    9. max702
      max702 April 7 2014 22: 30
      +2
      Some Germans have a good historical memory ... like the French ..
    10. Setrac
      Setrac April 7 2014 23: 31
      0
      Quote: razved
      The Germans are not completely duped, it pleases.

      They are not fooled, they are occupied.
    11. Polevik
      Polevik April 8 2014 01: 36
      +1
      Quote: razved
      The Germans are not completely duped, it pleases.

      Pleases, of course!
      But even more pleased that most likely this is not an accident. And the result of the planned work of a special department (and maybe an institute) in the information war. After all, someone: carefully selected the facts, posted them on German resources, created competent extras on German thematic forums and so on and so forth. And all this taking into account the mentality of the target audience.
      I am glad that we can not only have a nuclear club, a small sapper blade (deep respect) and a gas valve. But also by the Stars of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Polite People and Heroes of the invisible front.
  2. Monk
    Monk April 7 2014 19: 34
    +27
    In the course and in Europe, the mind wakes up. Strength is in truth, and truth is in Russia.
    1. razved
      razved April 7 2014 19: 37
      +3
      Well said!!!!
    2. smile
      smile April 7 2014 19: 42
      +14
      Monk
      Well, waking up is waking up ... but something is too slow. The overwhelming majority of Germans, it seems to me. still believes in what the media are singing. When the Crimea fled to us from the Nazis, my friend's daughter from Germany called - agitated, worried - how was my mother ... asks if the war was happening on her. When asked what kind of war - that - so the Russian troops invaded Ukraine, and the war began - in our country all the media are talking about this .... That's it. Our media is a girl. understandably, she does not believe, because she was convinced that all this is Putin's propaganda .... Thank God, even though she still believes my mother .... It looks like it's time to start looking for the beam towers there. who, like the Strugatskys in the "Inhabited Island", make people laugh ...
      1. smart Fox
        smart Fox April 7 2014 19: 58
        +6
        Yes, do not care for the majority of Germans, because they do not really care, but their own peaceful prosperity. Now, if the Ukop Natsik gas pipeline will burst - then all of Europe runs in, the gas will end. And nothing else worries them. I doubt even that they represent what kind of Ukraine we are talking about
        1. hawk
          hawk April 7 2014 20: 40
          +3
          Not every Russian will immediately say where the Germans have their homeland of Braunschwein sausage.
        2. dmitriygorshkov
          dmitriygorshkov April 7 2014 22: 09
          +1
          Quote: Sly Fox
          I doubt even that they represent what kind of Ukraine we are talking about

          It’s you who confused Germans with Pi (censor)! They believe the Germans know where Ukraine is!
      2. Tersky
        Tersky April 7 2014 20: 44
        +14
        Quote: smile
        The vast majority of Germans, it seems to me. still believes in what their media are singing.
        Vladimir, hi! These are the opinions of readers of Bild (http://www.bild.de/ka/p/ugc/34855388) the most widely read newspaper in Germany: Putin ist wenigstens ein Mann der Tat. Der läßt es dort nicht soweit kommen, wie in Kiew. Ich hoffe, daß das russische Militär seine Landsleute und die Schwarzmeerflotte schützt.
        “Putin is at least a man of action. He will not allow him to go there (in Crimea *) as far as in Kiev. I hope that the Russian military will protect their people and the Black Sea Fleet. "
        in der ukraine leben 20Mill. russische bürger und die ukraine selbst hat 46Mil. 6 Mill. sind weitere ethnische Gruppen! dh die Hälfte von der Ukraine sind Russen! Wenn die Amerikaner ihre "Bürger" überall auf der welt beschützen, warum darf das Russland nicht?
        “20 million Russian citizens live in Ukraine, and 46 million in total in Ukraine. 6 million are other ethnic groups. Those. half of Ukraine is Russian! “Americans are protecting their citizens everywhere in the world, why can't Russians?”
        Jacek Protasiewicz wurde heute in Deutschland wegen “Heil Hitler” Schreie verhaftet ... und die Radikalen in der Ukraine werden dafür von der BRD Regierung hochgelobt ........ total verkehrte Welt.
        “Jacek Protasevich was in Germany today because of a cry of“ Heil Hitler ”was arrested ... and the radicals in Ukraine praised the German government for this ... completely the world inside out.”
        “Klitschko warnt Putin“ 1.) Um einen Putin zu warnen sollte man wirtschaftlich oder militärisch schon was in der Hinterhand haben. 2.) Wenn die Ukrainer merken das die EU die Erwartungen auch nicht Ansatzweise erfüllen kann, werden sie den Klitschko zum Teufel jagen. In diesem Fall wohl nach Berlin.
        “Klitschko warns Putin” 1.) In order to warn Putin, you need to have something in your economy or militarily. 2.) If the Ukrainians realize that the EU will only partially fulfill the expectations, they will drive Klitschko to hell. In this case, only to Berlin. ”
        Nach Sibirien, das wäre schlimmer als beim Teufel.
        “To Siberia, that would be worse than the devil.”
        Putin verteidigt nicht SEINE Interessen sondern die Russlands. Das Land für das er als Präsident gewählt wurde. Und er macht es sehr gut !!!
        “Putin does not protect his interests, but the interests of Russia! The country that chose him to be the President. And he does it very well !!! ” The Germans do not sleep, the wrong nation ...
        1. smile
          smile April 7 2014 21: 53
          +1
          Tersky
          Well, God forbid, Victor. This leaves us hopeful that a serious confrontation with them will be avoided.
      3. Monk
        Monk April 7 2014 21: 05
        +1
        Do you want them to come out of a coma in three minutes ????? don't you want a lot, after almost 70 years of coma?
  3. Vorodis_vA
    Vorodis_vA April 7 2014 19: 34
    +2
    soon the games in the demo version of democracy will end,
  4. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF April 7 2014 19: 35
    +27
    This reminds me of the time of the end of the USSR, when ours did not believe the truth and the news, but listened to the BBC and radio freedom. Yes, someone 10 years ago would have told me that now it would be the other way round - I would not have believed it for anything.
  5. Duke
    Duke April 7 2014 19: 35
    +4
    So Germany has seen.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker April 7 2014 19: 44
      +9
      Quote: Duke
      So Germany has seen.

      How can you not see the light when the German hard workers "put on the neck" another parasite?
    2. sniper
      sniper April 7 2014 20: 09
      +7
      Quote: Duke
      So Germany has seen.

      Yes, no one received sight ... Smart people were always and everywhere, but there are so few of them, unfortunately ... And their comments are probably treated as paid trolls of Putin ...
      "After all, everyone knows that the evil Russians started the war ..." (c)
    3. Turk
      Turk April 7 2014 20: 16
      +1
      I agree. * One of the readers of Münchener Merkur writes: “From my point of view, the demonstrations in Kiev - with Klitschko at the forefront - are organizationally and financially controlled by the West (i.e. the EU and Europe), and the former US Treasury Secretary in the Reagan administration spoke about the amount at $ 5 billion. Since the revival of capitalism in Eastern Europe, the United States has sought to weaken and isolate Russia, as well as to destroy its superpower status. ”*
    4. serega.fedotov
      serega.fedotov April 7 2014 21: 12
      0
      Quote: Duke
      So Germany has seen.

      I think they didn’t see it themselves, but helped them! In the general a big plus to our special services, We have learned to act like in the information sphere!
  6. Tarpon
    Tarpon April 7 2014 19: 35
    +6
    True, like a spring stream, it will certainly break the ice of lies.
  7. ZU-23
    ZU-23 April 7 2014 19: 37
    +2
    The Germans, and you lower the rating of your shameful media and then a bunch of honest sources of information will appear.
  8. Angro Magno
    Angro Magno April 7 2014 19: 38
    +3
    I strongly doubt that such an overwhelming majority are indignant at lies.
    In order to have your own opinion, you must have alternative sources of information.
    And where did they come from an ordinary resident of Germany?
    1. zennon
      zennon April 7 2014 19: 50
      +4
      And where did they come from an ordinary resident of Germany?

      Do not forget, these are educated people. They know history, they know how to think.
    2. Alex 1977
      Alex 1977 April 7 2014 19: 51
      +6
      East Germans - a huge number knowing the Russian language.
      Emigrants from Russia. After all, RT and the Internet. Banal Facebook and others like him.
      If you want, there are sources.
      And the desire seems to have appeared.
      And this is precisely this - the end of the expansion of the West, and not the hypothetical collapse of the petrodollar or the economic crisis of the EU.
      As the USSR correctly observed here, any state exists as long as its citizens believe it. In Germany, they stopped believing him.
      Given the close ties within Europe, the process spreads to the entire EU.
      It was not necessary for them to fool the Union to ruin. Oh, it wasn’t necessary. It was necessary to support him, to cherish and cherish.
      There was a stable geopolitical scheme, which essentially suited everyone.
      So no damn it, initiative fools are worse than Tatar. And now hell knows what will happen to the world, in about ten years, but Europe and the USA will be raked for sure.
      The principle of rollback has not been canceled yet.
    3. hawk
      hawk April 7 2014 20: 35
      +1
      You can’t turn the Germans into telepuziks so recklessly
  9. Sergg
    Sergg April 7 2014 19: 41
    +4
    Washington is moving the whole world to a big war, the oligarchs there, the "benefactors" of the Fed, want the final division of the world in their favor. But if you can buy politicians, which is actually being done, then buying the population is problematic, people know how to think, then there is a chance to avoid a big war.
    1. witch
      witch April 7 2014 21: 59
      +1
      here I am afraid that a great war cannot be avoided. NATO really behaves impudently with amers. All the hassle will only be what a question. It’s not for nothing that they began to limit our ambassadors. But how will embassies be closed if ours and ours have all this is definitely a war.
      and the most interesting is yet to come.
  10. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb April 7 2014 19: 41
    +10
    The axis Germany-Russia-China and the world will change forever.
    At least much less blood will flow.
    1. hawk
      hawk April 7 2014 20: 28
      +1
      The future of the entire designed structure depends on the correct conduct of the first center line.
  11. techmesh
    techmesh April 7 2014 19: 45
    +3
    Ordinary people of the West understand that the actions of their authorities can lead to the 3rd world. Their life is not sweet anyway, and no one wants to lose everything. Therefore, it’s time for Westerners not only to conduct polls, but to really demand from their authorities an objective attitude to what is happening not only in Ukraine but throughout the world.
  12. konvalval
    konvalval April 7 2014 19: 47
    +3
    Translating into simple language, the population of the FRG was conditionally divided into "fascists" and "anti-fascists". This makes me happy. It is difficult to deceive the people.
    1. DMB-78
      DMB-78 April 7 2014 20: 50
      0
      Quote: konvalval
      Translating into simple language, the population of the Federal Republic of Germany was conditionally divided into "fascists" and "anti-fascists"

      Quote: konvalval
      Translating into simple language, the population of the Federal Republic of Germany was conditionally divided into "fascists" and "anti-fascists"

      rather on thinking and duped
  13. Dulat
    Dulat April 7 2014 19: 47
    +2
    that's when the presidential election will be. There is unlikely to be a candidate intent on friendly relations with Russia. Such is the democracy in the west. Even if it is, he will be disgraced in the media.
  14. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 7 2014 19: 47
    +1
    Goebbels’s ideological students, you won’t find a better definition.
    1. RND
      RND April 7 2014 21: 44
      +3
      Quote: Giant thought
      Goebbels’s ideological students, you won’t find a better definition.
  15. Patriot.ru.
    Patriot.ru. April 7 2014 19: 47
    +3
    Merkel will not be influenced by that Russophobia.
    1. Egoza
      April 7 2014 19: 54
      +6
      Quote: Patriot.ru.
      Merkel will not be influenced by that Russophobia.

      Well, so much dough swelled into Julia and Klitschko, but the result? All Putin is to blame !!! laughing
  16. omsbon
    omsbon April 7 2014 19: 49
    +1
    The Germans, Europeans, you can not infinitely compress the spring - this is fraught with consequences.
    Remember: the angle of incidence is equal to the angle of reflection!
  17. antiput
    antiput April 7 2014 19: 49
    +1
    Germans have been duped once, now they will think.
  18. parus2nik
    parus2nik April 7 2014 19: 50
    +4
    There is no unanimity among European nations, and this is the main thing, it’s important for Russia to maintain a propaganda campaign exposing Maidanut and NATO propaganda ..
    1. Patriot.ru.
      Patriot.ru. April 7 2014 19: 54
      -3
      Are you Lenin ???
      1. parus2nik
        parus2nik April 7 2014 20: 40
        +8
        No Napoleon, what chamber are you from?
        1. JIaIIoTb
          JIaIIoTb April 7 2014 21: 57
          +2
          Quote: Patriot.ru.
          Are you Lenin ???

          Quote: parus2nik
          No Napoleon, what chamber are you from?


          laughing good
  19. Grenz
    Grenz April 7 2014 19: 50
    +3
    Quote: Angro Magno
    In order to have your own opinion, you must have alternative sources of information.

    Well, let's say getting information fairly objective if desired is not difficult.
    The question is different. The blatant lie has already gotten the common people so much that they are increasingly asking the question: "How long will the governments of European countries consider their subjects as idiots who can only digest the informational gum offered by the biased media."
    And the more honest and shameless the lie, the more often people will get to the bottom of the truth. But you can’t hide it.
  20. morpogr
    morpogr April 7 2014 19: 50
    +2
    You will go around the whole world with truth; you cannot step without truth.
    The truth is not a loud scream.
    Thousands of roads, though one.
    The eye sees the truth, the ear hears the lie.
    Chinese proverbs.
  21. delfinN
    delfinN April 7 2014 19: 50
    +4
    The Germans jealously preserve the old, "good" traditions
  22. gunter_laux
    gunter_laux April 7 2014 19: 52
    +2
    Memory You are a little wrong, German media often hang out in the wake of the United States, but many publications are objective. Especially -Süddeutsche Zeitung- hi
  23. DimDimych
    DimDimych April 7 2014 19: 53
    +5
    The Germans are outraged by the lies of the local media about the Ukrainian crisis

    something the Germans tight are thinking!
    almost a month ago, they were told about it in the Bundestag ...

  24. Keeper
    Keeper April 7 2014 19: 53
    +1
    The most interesting thing is that now Russia can recoil from the whole situation in Ukraine and the EU and America will choke on their own urine, which they are trying to "irrigate" Ukrainian democratic "principles" ...
  25. specialist
    specialist April 7 2014 19: 54
    +2
    In information wars, everything secret, sooner or later, becomes apparent. The truth cannot be hidden. In the West, they are beginning to understand this.
  26. Lich
    Lich April 7 2014 19: 56
    +10
    Yes, Germany is there, my employee is sitting opposite, dissatisfied with the GDP policy, because you see he bought the euro at half price, and the maximum price tag for the goods from ebay is limited, the other heard that there will be problems with visas, he joined him. Yes, they frankly do not care not only to Ukraine, but also to all of Russia. Something like that..
    In Germany, there were still thinking people, as in other countries, but ... not enough ... the information war is in full swing, our positions are still weak, liberals like Colorado beetles breed, give them only free rein.

    It’s a pity we can’t act with journalists like in the Crimea, oh I wouldn’t be stingy with tomatoes with rotten eggs
    1. Kot bazilio
      Kot bazilio April 7 2014 22: 40
      +1
      Well Duc resort to elementary agitation - "the beat determines consciousness." Give him vodka and in the snout, business laughing !
  27. Counter
    Counter April 7 2014 19: 57
    +3
    Such messages are a sure sign of an impending fight that is now hovering around the Ukrainian events. NATO members of mattresses are most likely not going to give up, and will look for further reasons to get the same green light to eventually drag their military forces to Ukraine. And at the first stage, at least, arm their Kiev "colleagues". Relaxing is not worth it!
  28. koksalek
    koksalek April 7 2014 19: 57
    +4
    An article on the part of Russia that there are few attempts to convey to the rest of the world a correct vision of the situation and this niche was quickly occupied by mongrels barking on command from across the ocean. If only Russia would use all the levers for its propaganda, but it is so lacking
    1. hawk
      hawk April 7 2014 20: 22
      +1
      For example, we have reduced almost to zero powerful broadcasting to foreign countries.
  29. prophet
    prophet April 7 2014 19: 58
    +3
    Quote: Egoza
    Quote: Patriot.ru.
    Merkel will not be influenced by that Russophobia.

    Well, so much dough swelled into Julia and Klitschko, but the result? All Putin is to blame !!! laughing

    I wonder what ... gesture is he showing her now?
  30. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 April 7 2014 20: 00
    +6
    The Germans do not want to fight with us. Still would! Whoever it should be crystal clear to them - it is the Germans who will try to throw again under the Russian tank. But the Germans had long since come to their senses. Our grandfathers did a good job on the specific enlightenment of the German consciousness ...
    That's just it now. But the whole world owes astronomical sums to bankers ... So all this mind for the time being, when Europeans will again be given a proper hunger strike. It’s they who are so well-fed and smart, and they understand that Russia is their chance to continue a comfortable and relaxed life. But they’ll take them by their soft abdomen and take away a bowl ... In general, we have little time. And we still did not roll the horse, we still do not understand where we are actually going. And without a goal, all body movements are equally redundant.
  31. mamont5
    mamont5 April 7 2014 20: 02
    +6
    "Even the conservative Berliner Zeitung noted that 80% of the 12 readers who took part in the online poll considered the official criticism of Moscow to be" a model of hypocrisy. "
    The Germans are pragmatic people, they need to work and trade, this is a great help to Russia, and the mess in Ukraine is completely useless. And the Germans are well aware that Ukraine is the same Russia, only from the edge.
  32. Turkir
    Turkir April 7 2014 20: 09
    0
    Scared, scared and scared everyone.
    Wow, the Germans took it and got scared.
    Not calculated.
    Who now will reassure Michele and Hans?
  33. hawk
    hawk April 7 2014 20: 13
    +1
    The Germans are characterized by accuracy, meticulousness and scrupulousness. They will not believe superficial unfounded conclusions. They have something to compare - at least the same Euronews. They are excellent business executives. Realize that they are pulling the whole European Union. To take on obvious hangers-ons who, in worse Greece, they will not.
  34. maxxdesign
    maxxdesign April 7 2014 20: 16
    -1
    and yet Lenin's phrase "if you often tell a lie - it will become the true truth" DOES NOT WORK!)))
  35. Orc-xnumx
    Orc-xnumx April 7 2014 20: 21
    +1
    The Germans have in the blood of generations the fear of "Russian tanks in the streets"!
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 April 7 2014 20: 54
      +3
      Chet you confuse .. tanks with tanks, but they remember about rations brought by these tanks ..
      And they remember Leipzig ... and its inhabitants ... on fire.
  36. Andrey Ulyanovsky
    Andrey Ulyanovsky April 7 2014 20: 28
    +9
    Germany is the most benevolent country in relations with Russia, in my opinion: they are trying to understand and figure it out, they feel openly guilty for participating in the movement.

    Relations with the Germans will improve quickly.
    1. izGOI
      izGOI April 8 2014 02: 30
      0
      The video is just SUPER !!! And I also want his wish to come true.
  37. Alexey Lobanov
    Alexey Lobanov April 7 2014 20: 29
    +2
    Quote: Orc-78
    The Germans have in the blood of generations the fear of "Russian tanks in the streets"!


    Germany’s losses in WW2 unexpectedly updated - (http: // www. Poteryww2. Narod.ru/ glava2. Html
    in thousands of people:
    Held in military service on 1.03.1939/3214/XNUMX XNUMX
    Mobilized from 1.06.1939/30.04.1945/30593 to XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX XNUMX
    Total called up for service 33807
    Remained at the time of surrender 4800
    Killed, including dead from wounds and diseases 15813
    Prisoners of War 7387
    Disabled and laid off farm 3807
    Killed in the number of missing 2000

    Pretty reliable, the facts can be verified ...
  38. Markusmooon
    Markusmooon April 7 2014 20: 30
    +3
    Quote: razved
    The Germans are not completely fooled, it pleases. I would like to hope that they will be able to at least slightly influence A. Merkel and other powers that be.


    in Germany there are a lot of Russian-speaking Germans from the Orenburg region. from the Urals and Kazakhstan, they are watching Russia on the Internet
    1. izGOI
      izGOI April 8 2014 02: 18
      0
      ... Plus its Russian-speaking television channels and radio stations. Yes, and satellite dishes in every home.
  39. sazhka4
    sazhka4 April 7 2014 20: 31
    +1
    No one will like discussing in front of the public .. Although I would make the face of the face happy ..
  40. alex47russ
    alex47russ April 7 2014 20: 31
    +5
    As one man said! ,, What is the strength, American? Do you think in money, that brother thinks in money !? And the power is in the TRUTH! .... ,, The power is behind us men !!! Russia rose from its knees and no one will put it on its knees !!!
  41. Shustov
    Shustov April 7 2014 20: 37
    +4
    So the Germans for a long time were our allies (before the WWII). Throwing them in Europe and in the vehicle, it would be great IMHO. I don’t trust China much ...
  42. Rus62
    Rus62 April 7 2014 20: 40
    +2
    The healthy-minded people of Germany can distinguish black from white, and it pleases.
  43. Russ69
    Russ69 April 7 2014 20: 40
    +9
    The view from the window in Kharkov. In Crimea, something similar was ... smile
    1. Ivan Tucha
      Ivan Tucha April 7 2014 20: 50
      +1
      If not photoshop, then a really cool sunset smile . Symbolically bully
  44. Kapralwdw
    Kapralwdw April 7 2014 20: 42
    +2
    Quote: smile
    Monk
    Well, waking up is waking up ... but something is too slow. The overwhelming majority of Germans, it seems to me. still believes in what the media are singing. When the Crimea fled to us from the Nazis, my friend's daughter from Germany called - agitated, worried - how was my mother ... asks if the war was happening on her. When asked what kind of war - that - so the Russian troops invaded Ukraine, and the war began - in our country all the media are talking about this .... That's it. Our media is a girl. understandably, she does not believe, because she was convinced that all this is Putin's propaganda .... Thank God, even though she still believes my mother .... It looks like it's time to start looking for the beam towers there. who, like the Strugatskys in the "Inhabited Island", make people laugh ...

    I was asked the same thing by a classmate living in Germany !! do you have a war ?! then he said, if I’m in time for Russia! bully
  45. kvnvolga2008
    kvnvolga2008 April 7 2014 20: 46
    +1
    There is an information out! And that's it!
  46. Leader
    Leader April 7 2014 20: 47
    +1
    I don’t care what anyone thinks there ...
    I proceed from the fact that Russia from friends / allies has only its Armed forces.
    The rest should be considered only as temporary tailors, if it is beneficial to us.
    Armed parity is the key to a quiet life!
  47. demoniac1666
    demoniac1666 April 7 2014 20: 52
    +1
    Is this our little victory on the information front ?! If so, then I'm immensely happy !!!!! good
  48. Sergey Vl.
    Sergey Vl. April 7 2014 20: 53
    +1
    What is the threat from Russia ?! The fact that every year on May 9 we remind Germany of its place ?! Frau Merkel, as it turns out, is not a "daisy girl" at all.
  49. Ivan 63
    Ivan 63 April 7 2014 20: 59
    0
    It seems that the generation "over 50" is still alive - not all is lost - a little higher is the article by Robert Perry from the States, here - that not all of Europe is duped, in general there is a chance to see an anti-Maidan not only in Berlin.
  50. Stinger
    Stinger April 7 2014 21: 03
    +1
    An unprecedented wave of anti-Russian propaganda unfolded in the German media against the backdrop of the Kiev coup, carried out with the support of the United States and the EU.

    Why? The precedent was in 2008, even worse. When a bloodthirsty Russian bear attacked defenseless Georgia, took away the Hummers bought with the last money, and returned to the den. In the states, indignation, when their instructors were scampering faster than Georgians, hamburgers fell out of their open mouths. And the independent media flooded! Not a couple of the present.