Criminal responsibility for the rehabilitation of Nazism in Russia

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At the end of last week, State Duma deputies in the 1 reading adopted a bill that, in fact, complements the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. The essence of the bill is connected with the introduction of criminal liability for those persons who

a) deny the facts established by the verdict of the Nuremberg Tribunal;

b) approve or try to justify the crimes of Nazism;

c) distribute disinformation (false information) about the activities of Soviet soldiers and state structures of the USSR during the Great Patriotic War (World War II).


According to the bill, the punishment that can be incurred by persons involved in the actual rehabilitation of fascism and Nazism is either a fine of up to 300 thousand rubles, or imprisonment for up to 3 years.

There is an addition to the bill. It concerns the possible spread by mass media and public platforms by one or another person of a position rehabilitating Nazi crimes. In this case, the violator of the law will face either a fine of up to half a million rubles, or imprisonment for up to five years. In addition, a person who is convicted by a court under such an article may be deprived of the right to conduct certain activities and occupy certain posts (public, political, teaching posts).

Thus, a law appears in Russia that is capable of forcing persons engaged in, let's say, an interpretation beneficial to certain forces. historical processes (at least, processes of the Second World War), to be fully responsible for their words. That is, if someone from the so-called liberal alternative historians, journalists, "human rights activists" and representatives of political forces wakes up the idea to whitewash fascist crimes or, for example, to identify the actions of Nazi Germany with the actions of the Soviet Union during the Second World War, then such people will have to think three times whether to launch their crazy ideas to the masses or leave them exclusively in their inflamed brain.

As expected, after passing the first reading of the bill in the State Duma, a circle of gentlemen emerged who took hostility with the document. It turns out that people who are opposed to such a bill give themselves away, as they say, with giblets. Well, in fact - could a law of criminality for the denial of Nazi crimes during the Second World War cause any negative reaction from a sane person? A sane person doesn’t, because a sane person, and in Russia, fortunately, the majority, the very words “Nazism” and “fascism” cause, to put it mildly, rejection. But it can cause just such a reaction in the society of those who are looking for any reason to once again raise their whine, trying to rewrite the history of the country at the same time, erase the memory of the Great Victory from it or douse this Victory with ultra-liberal slops ...

Here are a few comments that were set up by representatives of the permanent audience of Ekho Moskvy radio station. Apparently, these people struck a law for living ...

jujwish:
Well, why are they petty, are these deputies lousy? Putting mouths to all citizens of Putlerland — and all the love! But don't say that, don't deny it, don't propagandize it ...


abc_2011:
Recently, all that Russia is doing is violence against the mind, over the very essence of the civilization of people ...


Apparently, these gentlemen literally daily tempt to deny, propagandize and reflect on violence over the mind, since a reasonable law causes urine to hit them in the head. Well, if the mind itself is already raped many times, then such injuries should be taken into account in the medical record ...

It is interesting that the same gentlemen, who were so excitedly disturbed by the draft law under consideration, for some reason do not recall that in a number of countries such laws have been in force for several decades. If you do not remember yourself, then you need to remind them.

For example, in Israel, since 1986, a law has been in effect whereby it is possible to get "five" not only for denying crimes against Jews during the Second World War, but also for quoting: the derogation of the actions of Nazi criminals.

In Austria, a law criminalizing the denial, downplay and justification of Nazi crimes committed during the Second World War is valid from 1947. At the same time, it is in Austria that the most serious criminal legislation is in effect. For denying Nazi crimes, you can go to jail for up to 10 years, and if you openly propagandize the activities of national criminals, the court can, by law, send you to rethink their positions for all 20 years!

In Germany, for denying, diminishing or propagating Nazi crimes can be obtained up to 5 years in prison. At the same time, it is Germany that is the world leader in the number of criminal cases involving attempts by certain individuals to rehabilitate Nazi crimes. Over the past fifteen years in Germany 8 people have been found guilty by the courts under articles that criminalize the rehabilitation of Nazism. The courts for the same period of time convicted in Austria, Switzerland, France and other European and not only European countries. So in 2009, the Austrian writer Honzik was imprisoned for 5 for years for presenting “proof of absence” of gas chambers at Auschwitz. The court considered the “evidence” as blatant disinformation, and sent Honzik to the place where the writer was able to ponder his “evidence base” in proud solitude ...

That is, in a number of foreign countries, such a law works in full, and in Russia, you see, it causes indignation among a certain circle of people. Well, if you are so much pulling at denying, belittling and promoting, you can always go to those countries where responsibility for this is not provided. Nobody, as they say, holds. Won in Latvia and Estonia, their clowns participating in marches of SS veterans are less and less, and, therefore, for domestic deniers and detractors, there is always the opportunity to join their ranks.
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  1. +47
    April 7 2014 08: 42
    I wish I could cut this cross with this dumb and empty head am The law is generally magical, I support.
    1. +37
      April 7 2014 08: 46
      According to the law of the Macorevich it is necessary to punish, let the fascist bastard sit for three years.
      1. +34
        April 7 2014 08: 57
        Quote: maks-xnumx
        According to the law of the Macorevich it is necessary to punish
        1. +14
          April 7 2014 10: 11
          Quote: ZU-23
          The law is generally magical, I support.

          And to build a zone for them as Auschwetz 2 (Birkenau), only in the Arctic Circle.
          And provide authentic conditions of detention. And so that they receive no more calories than the prisoners of Auschwitz, and that there is a crematorium, not everyone can stretch out on such a diet for three years.
          1. +5
            April 7 2014 11: 21
            No zones !!! Let the railway go to the north and build in Siberia! They sleep on the ground and eat the balance!
            1. Constantine
              +2
              April 7 2014 11: 36
              Railways are a good idea. It’s time to expand the Trans-Siberian, and the network of roads should be seriously expanded. wassat
              1. 0
                April 7 2014 19: 35
                The Northern Railway needs overhaul as the BZHRK stopped driving on it; the trip along it resembles a boat trip in a light storm.
                It is necessary to restore the circumpolar railway - it will be very convenient for LNG in the monthly consumption rates of the Baltic countries (from Norway to Livonia) to drive in tanks, and it will be more convenient for Russian cities.
                Well, to the port of Anadyr (by the way, the water area is very similar to PortArthur, with the difference that it is covered with ice for most of the year) it is convenient to drive in the same volumes by ferries based on the Zubr SVP further to Canada, America, Japan, and both Koreas ...
                Moreover, the Bison can be redone for the same LNG - there is experience.
        2. +7
          April 7 2014 15: 51
          No, Alyonka, they are not lozenges, they are given an enema from a mixture of diesel fuel and gramophone needles.
      2. +20
        April 7 2014 09: 06
        Quote: maks-xnumx
        let the fascist bastard sit for three years.

        After reading this ...c) distribute disinformation (false information) about the activities of Soviet soldiers and state structures of the USSR during the Great Patriotic War (World War II).
        Something I immediately remembered Gozman.
        And about the comments on the Echo, so a normal person will not go there. If you just touch it.
        1. +13
          April 7 2014 10: 08
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And about the comments on the Echo, so a normal person will not go there. If you just touch it.

          It is high time to smash the "Ukhu matzah", the law will be adopted for this, all the prerequisites will appear. Judging by the reaction of the GDP in the photo, the splash will arrive soon. laughing :
          1. +4
            April 7 2014 10: 15
            It is high time to smudge on "Uhu matzo"
            And in the new law what is written about the liability of legal entities? Or is there only the responsibility of individuals? Sorry, maybe I inattentively read and skipped?
            1. PPL
              +7
              April 7 2014 10: 26
              And in the new law what is written about the liability of legal entities?

              The bill was introduced by a group of authors, including the head of the State Duma Committee on Security and Anti-Corruption, Irina Yarovoy (United Russia Party).

              According to the document, by May 9, it is planned to introduce a new article in the Criminal Code “Rehabilitation of Nazism” ...
              Violators of the article are invited to fine in the amount of from 100 to 500 thousand rubles or punish with imprisonment for up to five years. The commission of such an aggravated crime (using the media or official position) involves a sanction in the form of deprivation of the right to hold certain posts for up to three years.
              Source http://lenta.ru/news/2014/04/04/nazism/
              1. S_mirnov
                +1
                April 7 2014 11: 06
                Quote: PPZ
                The bill was introduced by a group of authors, including the head of the State Duma Committee on Security and Anti-Corruption, Irina Yarovoy (United Russia Party).

                It is alarming that the law was proposed by United Russia.
                It’s interesting, but for the denial or doubt of the veracity of the Holocaust now in Russia will also be planted as in the West? Or has it not yet come to this?
                "The Mannheim Court sentenced 67-year-old Holocaust denier Ernst Zündel to five years' imprisonment. Under German law, this is the maximum penalty for an offense, which is denying the catastrophe of European Jews."
                http://kob.su/forum/showthread.php?t=1937
                1. PPL
                  0
                  April 7 2014 20: 57
                  That's interesting, but for denying or doubting ...

                  I will say this, doubt and doubt are different. When the obvious is denied (I mean the facts that are officially confirmed), then this is either stupidity or provocation. As for the bishop, he said in an interview: “I think that in the Nazi concentration camps, somewhere around two hundred three hundred thousand Jews died, but none of them died in the gas chambers.” He said: "Yes, this is my opinion, I think that gas chambers never existed." At the same time, he argued that stoves of such height and shape could not exist, and the doors of the gas chambers that show tourists in Auschwitz could not be hermetically closed. What is this, if not the denial of the obvious, as told by direct witnesses (concentration camp inmates and their guards)?
                  Any thinking person has the right to express doubts, but at the same time it is imperative to rely on facts, and not speculation. And this should apply to the "untouchables" and to any other peoples.
            2. +2
              April 7 2014 10: 38
              Quote: abrakadabre
              Or is there only the responsibility of individuals? Sorry, maybe I inattentively read and skipped?

              There is an addition to the bill. It relates to possible dissemination through the media and public sites. So the legal entity also falls ..
              1. +1
                April 7 2014 12: 57
                There is an addition to the bill. It concerns the possible dissemination through the media and public platforms. So the legal entity also falls ..
                Well, take the same "Echo ..." or "Rain". If on a considerable part of the programs people who fall under this article speak, then all the announcers who directly voice it aloud will be spoken separately, as individuals? But what about the responsible editors, management, who determines what can and cannot be said on the air? Will they remain behind the scenes of the application of the norms of this law? Or is it worthwhile to admit that the organization itself is a legal entity and is engaged in violation of this law. Then how is it spelled out in this law about such a scenario?
                I would fine mercilessly for a start. Well, like, they overlooked the selection of personnel. Unless otherwise proven. And in case of a repeated violation, in the mild case - suspension of activities with a multiple fine from the first violation, in the severe case - deprived of the license with the subsequent closure of the resource and the arrest of accounts in the treasury.
          2. +1
            April 7 2014 11: 03
            )))) A valid photo !!!

            These "Echoes" are no longer interesting to anyone ...!
          3. +2
            April 7 2014 15: 58
            I don’t understand, is it something in the face of the face or something? So here is the face and face in one bottle. request
            1. 0
              April 8 2014 02: 24
              Oh my God...!!! And he lives in the world, this misery, stinks, crap, mocks ... !!! But, I think God left the show to see everything as terrible, deceitful, wretched, evil looks.
          4. 0
            April 8 2014 03: 05
            But this scum scum, a provocateur .........deleted by moderator Apollo, a long time ago on the bunk need to be determined! And he will be issued there under the bunks, soon too! I can imagine how disgusting he is to V.V. Putin, this is noticeable.
        2. PPL
          +3
          April 7 2014 10: 30
          And about the comments on the Echo, so a normal person will not go there. If you just touch it.

          I tried to express my opinion there, but a herd of liberal liberals-tolerasts immediately attacked from all sides, you get at least 30 answers in one statement ... belay
          1. +1
            April 7 2014 16: 03
            But you are popular good
          2. +5
            April 7 2014 16: 04
            Corporate ethics, duplicity, and verbiage are their ranking indices.
        3. +3
          April 7 2014 10: 39
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And about the comments on the Echo, so a normal person will not go there. If you just touch it.


          with great pleasure I read "Matsu" when I am in a "good" mood, but write there, correctly noticed myself, do not respect myself, and the "life time" on the site of those who disagree with the authors of the site is extremely limited, at first you are called "putleugent", then " troll ", and in" bann ". It reminds me very much of the Ukrainian "correspondent", but there is a "life time" according to a shortened program. In general, they believe that the enemy must be known by sight and it is necessary to view such a G. Alexander hi
        4. S_mirnov
          +2
          April 7 2014 11: 01
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          After reading this .... c) they disseminate misinformation (knowingly false information) about the activities of Soviet soldiers and state structures of the USSR during the Great Patriotic War (World War II).
          Something I immediately remembered Gozman.

          Little remembered! Add:
          Solzhenitsyn, Max Solovkin, Suvorov (Rezun), and a whole bunch of traitors rewriting Katyn events!
          1. 0
            April 8 2014 02: 33
            For Solzhenitsin I’ll say that you still need to look for such a liar ...! A typical agent of the fifth column, a provocateur false! Ugh ...!
    2. +6
      April 7 2014 08: 47
      I wish I could cut this cross from this stupid and empty head am The law is generally magical, I support it.
      twist the tube and put it in the ass reptile.
      1. +8
        April 7 2014 09: 23
        These are the plans of the Germans (+ 18):
        1. 0
          April 7 2014 11: 07
          !!!!!!!!!!!! Krasava!)))
    3. +6
      April 7 2014 09: 00
      Quote: ZU-23
      I wish I could cut this cross with this dumb and empty head am
      Yes, yes, and to the very neck.
    4. +5
      April 7 2014 09: 02
      Quote: ZU-23
      I wish I could cut this cross with this dumb and empty head am The law is generally magical, I support.
      what is there to cut out to curl up ... remove the scalp and that's it ...
      1. +29
        April 7 2014 09: 06
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        ..scalp off and that's it ...
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        2. +3
          April 7 2014 09: 26
          Quote: me by
          ..scalp off and that's it ...

          What is in front, what is behind, asks for one, brick.
        3. 0
          April 7 2014 20: 02
          Hands itch, charge something heavy on the tattoo ... am
        4. 0
          April 8 2014 02: 45
          This is a complete subhuman, besides it is very dangerous for society !!! Such degenerates must not be slowly isolated from humanity! Destroy at the root !!!
      2. +2
        April 7 2014 09: 13
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        what is there to cut out to curl up ... remove the scalp and that's it ...
        You can scalp in real hostilities, but for educational punishment everyone should see why, so you need to cut out the swastika laughing
        1. 0
          April 7 2014 19: 36
          A well-heated soldering iron.
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    5. +6
      April 7 2014 09: 22
      This is his mark, reticle impose!
    6. +3
      April 7 2014 09: 23
      Quote: ZU-23
      Akon is generally magical, I support.

      Well, finally, it wasn’t even clever in front of other countries. I, too, with both hands.
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    7. +2
      April 7 2014 09: 39
      No, why cut it out? Carnation a hundred in the center of the cross to keep it better!
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    9. +5
      April 7 2014 09: 41
      This target is depicted on the back of the head to know where to aim the bullet.
    10. +2
      April 7 2014 09: 41
      This is a target ..... high-quality, hard to miss! Yes and d o l b about _ b and see from afar!
    11. Grenz
      0
      April 7 2014 10: 22
      No, you just need to mark it with green!
    12. 0
      April 7 2014 10: 58
      I hope this is the minimum penalty and punishment
    13. Constantine
      0
      April 7 2014 11: 34
      Yes, now is generally the time to tighten the screws in this and many other parts of the legislation. Previously, they feared screams from the west, but now "it will definitely not get worse" wassat It is necessary to work with iron while it is hot smile
  2. +39
    April 7 2014 08: 43
    The law can cause indignation only among them.
    1. +17
      April 7 2014 08: 55
      Not only them.

      1. NAPOLEON
        -2
        April 7 2014 14: 51
        but I like Suvorov, he at least says that we didn’t oversleep the Germans but simply did not have time to get ahead of them. and the Stalinist version says that they overslept were not ready to build a bright future instead of preparing for war. I recommend an icebreaker to everyone.
        1. +3
          April 7 2014 17: 13
          He is the same Suvorov as I Rezun.
          And do not recommend this lying junk. At Rezun, his father fought against the Nazis, and he sold his father with offal. His father had a homeland, he does not.
          1. NAPOLEON
            0
            April 8 2014 11: 58
            after reading the icebreaker I see nothing treacherous
        2. +2
          April 7 2014 20: 07
          A traitor, he is a traitor in Africa. To the wall! am
    2. +3
      April 7 2014 09: 16
      As the saying goes, the family is not without a freak. It’s good that there aren’t so many of them AND FOR THE MOST OF THEM TO THE BULB.
      1. +2
        April 7 2014 09: 25
        For this goat, brilliant green has long been in stock.
    3. +2
      April 7 2014 11: 13
      The law can cause indignation only among them.

      Yah? The law on the prohibition of pedophilia propaganda also seemed quite logical.
      But it turned out that Russia oppresses the rights of sec. minorities ..... Right now, civilized Europe will conquer, then the United States will catch up ...
    4. PPL
      +1
      April 7 2014 20: 44
      Quote: mabuta
      The law can cause indignation only among them.

      Although the law has not yet been passed, the court is already administering justice! good
      The Preobrazhensky Court of Moscow fully satisfied the claim of the head of the United Russia faction in the State Duma, Vladimir Vasilyev, against journalist Viktor Shenderovich. For comparing the Games in Sochi with the Olympic Games in Nazi Germany, Shenderovich will pay 1 million rubles.
      Source http://ria.ru/society/20140407/1002900279.html
  3. +8
    April 7 2014 08: 43
    It was high time to introduce harsher sentences
    1. +3
      April 7 2014 08: 51
      a) deny the facts established by the verdict of the Nuremberg Tribunal;
      If I do not agree with the number of victims of the Holocaust, then what should I do? request Yes, many Jews were poisoned, but not 6 lyamov.
      1. +8
        April 7 2014 09: 10
        But what's the difference of 6 or 2 million? Think about it: MILLION human lives !!!
        It’s good to reason when these events have long sunk into oblivion ...
        And I had to listen to the stories of people who had been in fascist dungeons and remembered the acts of minions, like Bendera (there were many of those in my youth). Hollywood horror movies have a rest ...
        1. +8
          April 7 2014 10: 03
          Quote: Hyppopotut
          And I had to listen to the stories of people who visited the fascist dungeons and remembered the acts of minions, like Bendera

          I don’t whitewash the Nazis, but I don’t like that some speculate on this, scratching a sore to a huge size, and demanding compensation. And at the mention of the participation of bankers of known nationality in Hitler’s financing, they immediately shout about the victims of the Holocaust, without answering the question in essence. But in fact, they themselves created fascism.
          And yes, I agree, 2 million or 600 thousand people, this is still a lot, but the losses of the people of the USSR are incomparably higher, but we do not cry out as blessed at every corner, we are proud of the victory, modestly mourning the fallen. hi
          P.S. You are not surprised by this electoral policy of Israel - in Ukraine they are shouting bei zhidov, but they don't give a damn7 Not so long ago, they behaved differently, moreover, according to much petty statements.
        2. 0
          April 7 2014 17: 16
          Yes you are right, this is terrible.
          Do you know the fate of almost three million Russian soldiers captured during the first 4 months of the war?
          If not, why?
          1. 0
            April 7 2014 19: 03
            Quote: Turkir
            almost three million Russian soldiers captured during the first 4 months of the war?

            You want to say that in the first 4 months of the war the Germans captured 3 million of our soldiers? belay
            1. +1
              April 7 2014 19: 07
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              You want to say that in the first 4 months of the war the Germans captured 3 million of our soldiers?

              Igor ...
              According to the author, it’s so clear that he hid his eyes laughing
            2. +1
              April 7 2014 19: 18
              I wrote, almost, but it was 2.5 or less, no difference. There was a broadcast on RENTV, and under what conditions they were driven to the West, shooting on the road and how many of them died in the camps from starvation, this terrible figure turned out.
              According to official history, 1 million until October 1941. Even in the USSR, a familiar historian was allowed to access the closed archives, while working on his dissertation, I know from him that there are more than 2 million. The topic was taken from him, offered to work on another. And what can I say - I have two uncles missing. So nothing is known.
              1. 0
                April 7 2014 21: 16
                Quote: Turkir
                There was a broadcast on RENTV,

                I wouldn’t trust REN TV like that, otherwise they have about a dozen variants of the origin of humanity. I will not argue, I have not studied the topic in detail. But according to our sources, in 1941 2 people went missing and were captured. Here you need to understand that a lot of victims were not buried, and recorded in b \ n. I don’t trust German sources much, because-
                The German command reported that east of Kiev captured 665 thousand Soviet soldiers and officers. Meanwhile, the entire number of troops of the South-Western Front at the beginning of the Kiev defensive operation was 627 thousand people. Of this number, more than 150 thousand acted outside the encirclement, and tens of thousands of servicemen left the encirclement with fighting.
      2. +1
        April 7 2014 09: 18
        Congratulations, you can attach your post to the case, and to the treshka.
        Death to Fascism
        1. 0
          April 7 2014 19: 42
          Quote: zorcher
          Congratulations, you can attach your post to the case, and to the treshka.

          In general, the comrade has in mind the allegedly incorrect eviction of Ingush, Chechens, Bandera, Ustasha, Crimean Tatars and Meskhet Turks.

          Under this article, the trashman, rather the acting president, should gang up.
      3. +3
        April 7 2014 10: 48
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Yes, many Jews were poisoned, but not 6 lyamov.

        well, so they counted not only those who were poisoned in the camps ...
        and those who were cut out in the ghetto or in the occupied territories?
        and those who were soldiers and were killed in the fighting? including in the Red Army ...

        No, there’s just 6 of millions maybe typed ...

        the question is that it really is not necessary to speculate with this ...
        in the end, we Russians have much more reason to blame the Germans for the genocide of the Russians (and other Slavs) ...
  4. +14
    April 7 2014 08: 44
    even these amendments will be too soft. Death to fascism !!!
  5. +6
    April 7 2014 08: 44
    I propose to immediately start implementing the law, for example, with national traitors, with the "fifth column" and give them maximum deadlines.
    1. +4
      April 7 2014 10: 50
      Quote: Monk
      I propose to immediately start implementing the law, for example, with national traitors, with the "fifth column" and give them maximum deadlines.

      do not touch the useful and * diots !!!

      otherwise, the memory of the people is short, after 5 years they will forget how traitors look, and we will have "perestroika and glasnost 2.0" ...
      1. +1
        April 7 2014 20: 19
        And that's right. Again they will sing in chorus - "Vote or you will lose" hi
  6. +11
    April 7 2014 08: 47
    It is high time! Only do not touch Zherinovsky, the thoughtless orphan is thoughtless!
    1. +6
      April 7 2014 09: 10
      And what about Zhirinovsky? It seems that he never whitewashed fascism and did not propagate. On the contrary, he screams all his life for the Russians.
      1. +1
        April 7 2014 09: 19
        I am at all times, otherwise Moscow’s liberals divorced ...
  7. +21
    April 7 2014 08: 47
    At the same time, it is necessary to adopt a law on responsibility for Russophobia and the deliberate distortion of Russian history. The fifth column will stand on its hind legs! laughing
    1. +5
      April 7 2014 09: 14
      Wow, that would be very good.
    2. PPL
      +5
      April 7 2014 09: 25
      Thus, a law appears in Russia that is capable of ...

      So this law is just about that. good Finally, they will block the lies, which have recently flooded television screens and other open spaces of the media.
      Let's see what now the Makarevichs will "sing", and in what programs ... Will there be enough space for them in programs like SMAK? Macar-weather vane is no stranger to, he knows that sometimes it is better to chew than talk! lol
    3. +2
      April 7 2014 11: 36
      Quote: siberalt
      At the same time, it is necessary to adopt a law on responsibility for Russophobia and the deliberate distortion of Russian history.

      Which story?
      There are a lot of them (stories) ...
      For example, in most versions, Stalin is an executioner and paranoid ...
      And the authorities, with perseverance worthy of better use, have been "de-Stalinizing" society for almost 60 years ...
      And?
      Who do you want to plant?
  8. +8
    April 7 2014 08: 48
    It is necessary to pay more attention to the lessons of history and the education of patriotism among young people and, in general, to burn this brown plague in the bud. If in our city there would appear such a deprived person with a tattoo on the back of his head, he would be fused along the Terek to America.
  9. +4
    April 7 2014 08: 50
    It is clear with obvious enemies, but what about those who do not openly declare this, "just" equate Stalin with Hitler? -
    http://forum.barrikady.ru/subdmn/forum/index.php?topic=2858.40
    1. 0
      April 7 2014 20: 29
      Languages ​​are cut. But seriously, young people need to be taught so that they know who is who. soldier
  10. +5
    April 7 2014 08: 50
    It has long been necessary to finish with the "fifth column" !!! Well, and still it was necessary to be more rigid ...
  11. Jedi
    +3
    April 7 2014 08: 50
    yes, for clarity, the migrants should be caulked with a three-ruble note ...
  12. NIVH
    +19
    April 7 2014 08: 51
    As a citizen whose grandfather went through the "Finnish" and "Great Patriotic" events, I demand the rehabilitation of fascism to be equated with treason!
    1. +1
      April 7 2014 13: 26
      with the subsequent deprivation of citizenship of the Russian Federation ...
  13. skyil
    +2
    April 7 2014 08: 52
    It is high time! And the supervisor to put Zhirik, they will be crosses and a swastika and a bath with H2SO4 (with light steam!) angry
  14. Alikovo
    +2
    April 7 2014 08: 52
    the term will be small, 6-7 times for the rehabilitation of Nazism.
  15. +2
    April 7 2014 08: 53
    That's right, let them jump on Magadan for a cedar cone! lol
  16. +6
    April 7 2014 08: 54
    a) deny the facts established by the verdict of the Nuremberg Tribunal;

    b) approve or try to justify the crimes of Nazism;

    c) distribute disinformation (false information) about the activities of Soviet soldiers and state structures of the USSR during the Great Patriotic War (World War II).


    I completely agree that it is necessary to plant accomplices of Nazism without any pity ... the silence on this subject is too expensive for our people and the people of UKRAINE.
  17. +10
    April 7 2014 08: 55
    In the zones they will unite and litter the brains of peasants, as Wahhabis are now. Here's another full confiscation would be introduced on these compounds. Let them see the prospect of depriving cottages of their favorite pots and scuba diving!
    1. +1
      April 7 2014 09: 33
      Quote: Arbatov
      Here's another full confiscation would be introduced on these compounds.

      If confiscation of the head, then yes, and everything else is like a dead poultice, only this will help traitors get rid of unrighteous and vile thoughts.
  18. +5
    April 7 2014 08: 56
    For a long time it was necessary to introduce such a law. I am sure that most of all they will be outraged not even by the semi-wild youth groups of the fascist type, but by the Moscow liberal kagal, who are twice traitors, both of their people and of our Russia.
  19. +3
    April 7 2014 09: 03
    IT IS HIGH TIME! And shake the "fifth column" by the collar.
  20. +4
    April 7 2014 09: 08
    even these amendments will be too soft. Death to fascism !!!
    Oh no, fine. This is quite enough. Unless I would add a point that, given the high social significance of these offenses, convicts under the articles of this law cannot be subject to amnesties under any circumstances.
    Now the main thing is to change our tradition, when good laws spoil the non-binding nature of their application.
  21. Jedi
    -13
    April 7 2014 09: 08
    Quote: Monk
    for example, from national traitors, from the "fifth column" and give them maximum terms.

    And who is the fifth column? these are probably "national traitors" who drive German Mercedes and eat imported products, and their money in Switzerland is in dollar terms, and their kids live and study in Europe and the states, and their houses and palaces are in Austria and Mayamas ... are you talking about Putin, Shuvalov, Sechin and the Kremlin gop-company?
    1. +7
      April 7 2014 10: 32
      Quote: Jedi
      Are you talking about Putin, Shuvalov, Sechin and the Kremlin gop company?


      You name the facts. Where does Putin have infa accounts abroad?
      Come on, there are facts, write. No, go for the fuck. OK?
      1. Andrey Ulyanovsky
        +2
        April 7 2014 12: 09
        I'm afraid you won't get an answer. While lice can be combed out of the head and "put" in the I-no it is safe for this head, there will be many who wish, however, democracy. Perhaps this is correct, IMHO - not for me. It is important that the memory of people who, unfortunately, can no longer answer, should be protected - here, of course.
    2. +1
      April 7 2014 13: 49
      name Putin’s account number and the foreign state where that money is located. don’t call you an ordinary klyvatnik. so how do you need to put your brains in place — through the anus — it won’t work differently
  22. +13
    April 7 2014 09: 08
    The Nazis miscalculated: they didn’t run into those. No matter how much the fascist fights, and death does not pass. The fascist is like a beast: don’t believe him in anything.
  23. +8
    April 7 2014 09: 10
    It is very, very, very unfortunate that such laws have to be passed in our country today. I remember very well the time when not a single person, citizen could even think of justifying the actions of the National Socialist Party, the fascist regime. And even more so, to put in one row two absolute opposites: fascist Germany and Stalin's USSR. Probably, the complete failure of the upbringing of the younger generation forced the state leadership to take radical measures in order to step on the tail of the stinking filth of "Western values". It's time!
  24. dmb
    +2
    April 7 2014 09: 11
    A very good law. But will it be applied to everyone? If to all, then let me have a small list: well, there is nothing to say about the authors of the film "Bastards" or Guskov. But clause c) successfully covers not only the leadership of federal TV channels, including the Zvezda TV channel, but also the Guarantors of the Constitution, both the current one and the previous one. I am not even talking about a defective minister of culture. Let me remind you that both Guarantors called the leader of the country a criminal during the war without a court verdict.
  25. +14
    April 7 2014 09: 11
    Burn this evil spirits with hot iron ....
    1. The Art of War
      0
      April 7 2014 14: 49
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQaRlfBZjdM&list=UUF43xDupBAI9CnEEB94qBPQ
      1. +2
        April 7 2014 20: 38
        such a matryoshka soldier
  26. +6
    April 7 2014 09: 13
    The law is good ... Yes, only vague doubts torment me ... As always, Russian nationalists will fall under the distribution (the key word is "Russians"). There is now, for example, article 282 of the Criminal Code, so, again, for example, Novodvorskaya has already said so much that she would have to sit under this article for so long. But no, everything continues to broadcast nasty things.
    1. 0
      April 7 2014 16: 11
      I would like the law to work against real thugs. In fact, no matter how disgusting it was for us to look at such characters as Makarevich and others like him, they do not pose any real threat to our country. There is no real power behind them. They are nothing at all. Try to find a hundred people who have some kind of positive attitude towards this Novodvorskaya - yes, she would rather die than you succeed. But the boys who listen to mantras about the charms of Nazism in dark cellars under drugs - these have at least a weapon and a complete absence of fear - this is a threat. They need to be cleaned. And "earthworms" - yes, the dog is with them)
  27. +2
    April 7 2014 09: 17
    Correct solution! Fascists on the pitchfork!
    1. +3
      April 7 2014 09: 32
      Colleagues, I don't really understand one thing in the article - as if an excuse before the comments ... I'd like to ask: "Why the hell should they remind them of something if they don't remember something? And pay attention to comments in the media? They are worthy of the attention of the prosecutor's office, and There are also insults to the president and the state in which we live. You live, respect. If you don't respect, leave or answer. How else? Otherwise, everyone will live on the Maidan. I agree - the entertainment is not frail, but our children and I would not wish this to my grandchildren ... and you?soldier
      1. 0
        April 7 2014 20: 01
        Quote: oblako
        You live, respect. Do not respect - leave


        Well, you went too far.
        I, and no one else, is obliged to respect the personality of the temporarily performing president or other official - there is no article for this.
        And this is logical.
        But I, and any other, must not insult him - like any other citizen of the Russian Federation or another state.
        And for offensive words regarding the personality of the interim president, there is a separate article - as if any other citizen is less worthy of respect. And this is a little disappointing - this article of the Criminal Code is harmful.
        And here excuse me!
        REMEMBER, WE ARE Worthy!

        You may not respect your homeland for something, but you must love.
        From here the incorruptible comes out - "I HAVE TO BE OFFENED FOR THE POWER".
        And on this fine line, the liberals are scorching.
        Here for them, this article for the justification of Nazism is needed - IN order to see the edge.
        Until they become truly intellectuals.
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  28. +4
    April 7 2014 09: 22
    I really liked point B:
    c) distribute disinformation (false information) about the activities of Soviet soldiers and state structures of the USSR during the Great Patriotic War (World War II).
    Now, at least for the phrase "a billion shot by the NKVD will have to answer", and all sorts of nonsense on the book counters will be less.
  29. +3
    April 7 2014 09: 24
    Very correct law. The freedom to carry any x..ny should be limited to the freedom to receive for this in the face.
  30. +3
    April 7 2014 09: 25
    It is high time! Until now, films and serials are being released, where either the NKVD is completely executioners and idiots, then Smersh shoots everyone in batches in batches, then Beria is a maniac and a murderer, or Stalin is a tyrant. Etc. One thing the authors do not explain is how the muzzled and intimidated people ruined the Nazis?
    In a word, for insulting the memory of Soviet people, NKVD employees, military personnel of the army and navy, ordinary residents should be really punished. Maybe then all this liberalistic scum will drag languages ​​into the asses.
  31. +1
    April 7 2014 09: 28
    A song about the Leningrad fascists. An old one, but the meaning is not changing.
    Caution contains profanity (2 or 3 words)


    [media = http: //yadi.sk/d/K_LGQostLvk4z]
  32. +5
    April 7 2014 09: 31
    All war films, distorting historical facts, and pouring dirt on the soldiers and officers of the Soviet Army during the war period, must not only be banned, but destroyed!
    And then no matter how you watch modern films about the Second World War, then it’s all - yours / l / o / chi and go / o / you, especially the officers.
    WWII veterans are watching and DIVA IS GIVEN: - "WHERE IS THIS RAVE""
  33. ken
    +4
    April 7 2014 09: 33
    You need to review the entire Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.
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  35. APS
    +4
    April 7 2014 09: 42
    Correct law, I fully support! New "personnel" will appear in psychiatric hospitals!
  36. +7
    April 7 2014 09: 46
    Quote: ia-ai00
    All war films, distorting historical facts, and pouring dirt on the soldiers and officers of the Soviet Army during the war period, must not only be banned, but destroyed!
    And then no matter how you watch modern films about the Second World War, then it’s all - yours / l / o / chi and go / o / you, especially the officers.
    WWII veterans are watching and DIVA IS GIVEN: - "WHERE IS THIS RAVE""

    That's for sure! "Penal battalion", Mikhalkov's handicrafts ("coming" and "citadel") and a bunch of other stuff ..! All this must be subjected to a harsh revision in order to slander our history. And then they got used to broadcasting that the Russian soldier won the war only because he was afraid of the barrage of the cannibalistic NKVD. Veterans are presented as some kind of slaves who, out of fear of the commissars, twisted their necks to Hitler. Shame!
  37. Nikich
    0
    April 7 2014 09: 52
    Quote: erased
    It is high time! Until now, films and serials are being released, where either the NKVD is completely executioners and idiots, then Smersh shoots everyone in batches in batches, then Beria is a maniac and a murderer, or Stalin is a tyrant. Etc. One thing the authors do not explain is how the muzzled and intimidated people ruined the Nazis?
    In a word, for insulting the memory of Soviet people, NKVD employees, military personnel of the army and navy, ordinary residents should be really punished. Maybe then all this liberalistic scum will drag languages ​​into the asses.

    Well, about Stalin it is still unknown, but I support
  38. +1
    April 7 2014 10: 02
    Laws are good, but where is public opinion. I recall the theme of lampshades. Gozman almost won. Scoibed was so pressed and at the same time ch. ed. Komsomol members that they did not have time to apologize. All because Gozman is an accomplice of Chubais, i.e. untouchable. And what are these laws for him. And subject them to obstruction, but no one. Soloviev in each transmission knocks his left heel on his chest - I am like a Jew .... Now estimate the composition of the entire media space, which forms public opinion. Probably it is necessary to start from here.
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  40. +3
    April 7 2014 10: 06
    You can’t crap history! And even more so in his own country.
  41. Jedi
    +1
    April 7 2014 10: 23
    Quote: ia-ai00
    All war films, distorting historical facts, and pouring dirt on the soldiers and officers of the Soviet Army during the war period, must not only be banned, but destroyed!

    yes to the very point. and then there are all sorts of librarians who claim that the war began in the 41st year and half of the indestructible and legendary red army surrendered, and the other half threw equipment and weapons drapanula to Moscow ...
  42. +3
    April 7 2014 10: 24
    We urgently need to correct the history textbooks, otherwise the young people are seriously convinced that Hitler was huddled by staff members, and not by our grandfathers since June 41. The volume of material is incomparably small compared to the Soviet period. My generation had no doubt about the phrase "Our cause is just!" I'm not going to apologize for the harsh treatment of those fascists who, according to some figures, were "liberators, bearers of European culture," apparently so "tolerant" to call crematoria, concentration camps and gas chambers. You cannot whitewash the murderers, otherwise everything will repeat itself ...
  43. +1
    April 7 2014 10: 26
    Over the past fifteen years in the Federal Republic of Germany 8 people have been found guilty by the courts under articles that impose criminal liability for the rehabilitation of Nazism.

    With the adoption of amendments to the Criminal Code, Echo Moskvy will broadcast from the Lefortovo pre-trial detention center.
    And only one position will remain for the liberals: "GDP is a tyrant."
    1. +1
      April 7 2014 11: 17
      Quote: MainBeam
      "GDP is a tyrant".

      Let them indulge. Although wise men were not aware if GDP was a tyrant, they would already be fertilizer.
    2. 0
      April 7 2014 20: 06
      Quote: MainBeam
      And only one position will remain for the liberals: "GDP is a tyrant."

      But for this, excuse me, there is an article for defamation - that a tyrant must be proved in court.
      Can not prove - answer.
  44. +17
    April 7 2014 10: 44
    Who is cooler? I know now.
  45. ed65b
    +2
    April 7 2014 11: 12
    On the echo, now a lot of banderlogs have dug in, so they pour dust with comments. Voinas citizens.
  46. +3
    April 7 2014 11: 12
    Society should be protected by all available means, legally, from various types of threats. This topic is very relevant now, and everything revolves around the concept of the INFORMATION SPACE of the state, and this is correct, on the example of Ukraine, as well as the process of the USSR "DECORATION" when the country was destroyed by its citizens, from the inside - it is clear that the army, aviation and navy are in an information war lose to PROPAGANDA. Consequently, We, Our modern Russian society, must have and actively use protection from this type of threat. The protection of the infosphere should be carried out in the same way as the state border of the state is protected.
    Adults of the Soviet temper on some topics frankly "float", and what can we say about the younger generation, who do not have that stopper "when NO, because it is impossible", whose consciousness is open to the filling of any firmware, nature does not tolerate emptiness if there is no OUR media society we will not have OUR media society - everything is simple here.

    The most important thing is that more and more people are beginning to understand this need, and we will force fines and terms to respect our society, our traditions and our history with fines and deadlines by Akunins, Novodvodorsky, Aleksey, Mikhalkov and Coopers. Thank.
  47. Achilles Pyatkin
    0
    April 7 2014 11: 18
    If all of them are transplanted, then they will make themselves martyrs of the bloody Putin regime. They will howl, squeal from "Putin's gulags." It is better to take all the Makarevichs, Novodvorskys and the rest of the Caudlers, open a broadcast on TNT, after the "comedy club" and let the people try to heal while laughing offscreen. Pentaiclowns. Yes lol .. well and of course I am for shooting them and sending them to hell for a consultation. There they and their Hitler, and why it is a sin to conceal Joseph Vessarionovich .. explain how to love the homeland must have been !!!! am
  48. 0
    April 7 2014 11: 19
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: maks-xnumx
    let the fascist bastard sit for three years.

    After reading this ...c) distribute disinformation (false information) about the activities of Soviet soldiers and state structures of the USSR during the Great Patriotic War (World War II).
    Something I immediately remembered Gozman.
    And about the comments on the Echo, so a normal person will not go there. If you just touch it.

    And I remembered that in the United States, history is being taught just distorted, against soldiers of the Red Army, so you have to invade there and punish these figures !!!
  49. 0
    April 7 2014 11: 36
    Adopting the right law is a delicate work to identify Western agents. laughing
  50. 0
    April 7 2014 11: 41
    What will win the ban or idea? What can an internet provocateur do? Nothing - technology allows him to remain in the shadows. The ban only fuels interest in Nazism. Ideology can only be fought with another ideology. Is she in Russia today?
  51. +1
    April 7 2014 11: 59
    Maybe I didn't understand something. Here I am, a national, Russian, I live in Belarus, and my last name is Ukrainian.
    And no one will convince me that I am somehow worse than other people who surround me.
    But if I start to stress that someone has less rights to live on this Earth... This is where the fascist begins. The trouble is that our home, the Earth, is not an orange; you can’t divide it into slices.
    This is as true as my right to live as I wish and where I want. Naturally, moderately observing the rules of the society in which I exist. Naturally, I’m not going to guard something in one person.
    I’m also not an idiot, sitting with a fork and watching everyone snatch up the common dumplings with their hands.
    There is no time for etiquette here.
    Z.Y Is this a kaklzus or is the word idiot already a dirty word in Russian?
    Grandma has arrived!
  52. Andrey Ulyanovsky
    0
    April 7 2014 11: 59
    This is good news, the country should not be in timelessness, where there is room for real and armchair Bandera-, Hitler- (resunoids) and other fils! Seven feet under the keel of the Law, real affairs and landings.
  53. +1
    April 7 2014 12: 04
    this should have been done a long time ago.
    1. 0
      April 7 2014 13: 03
      Quote: razved
      this should have been done a long time ago.

      drinks
  54. Jedi
    0
    April 7 2014 12: 17
    Quote: Metlik
    Passing the right law is a delicate job of identifying Western agents

    “Western agents” are easy and simple to identify... for example, if you are a great Russian politician, and your two beloved daughters enjoy life not in our great energy superpower, but in Germany. the question arises: what’s stopping the NATO military from throwing a bag of coke or gorynych into the trunk of your daughter’s Bentley, and offering you to become a “Western agent”, and for this not putting your daughters in jail for twenty years???
  55. alexandrow
    0
    April 7 2014 13: 30
    What to do with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad? It will not be very nice if, suppose, he comes to Russia, and he is tried here. And it will be even less beautiful if they don’t, thereby breaking the law.
    http://hedrook.vho.org/library/ahmadi3.htm
  56. 0
    April 7 2014 13: 45
    Most neo-Nazis have no idea what year World War II began, much less the results of the Nuremberg Tribunal or the concentration camps. These are just stupid cattle, and like any social phenomenon, the appearance of these fighters for the purity of the race has prerequisites - in our case, complete disgrace in migration policy, millions of illegal immigrants in our cities and the deterioration of the criminal situation among them. They rape and kill. Therefore, the rednecks decided to be Nazis in order to take at least some position. That's all.
  57. vinik1996
    0
    April 7 2014 14: 07
    In general, such people should be sent to the far north to look for gold am - maybe they will become smarter and learn to love their Motherland? I support the law good
  58. 0
    April 7 2014 14: 07
    Supporters of Nazism-Jews. It’s crazy! By the way, now it’s shown on TV that the Donetsk People’s Republic has been proclaimed. P....ts!
  59. padonok.71
    0
    April 7 2014 14: 33
    As I understand it, if the Russians are higher and more important to me than everyone else, then I am a fascist? So this is another law in support of emigrants? And if these “Urussians” start croaking again: the Caucasus is home!, then the law for their “landing” is already ready. Super. Allah al putani. We have everything for these animals. And the Russian sit down and don’t blather.
    1. 0
      April 7 2014 16: 38
      Russians are the titular nation in Russia and this in no way puts you above other nationalities. Your belonging to the titular nation gives you the privileges of helping other peoples live in Russia and coexist peacefully. Initially, Russia always differed from other empires in that peoples were not subjugated by it, but were joined to it on the basis of peace and harmony. In general, a Russian should be generous and, most importantly, Orthodox. For an Orthodox person, nationality does not exist. The Caucasus is an irritant for the United States.
      They dream of destroying Russia, but they want to start with the Caucasus. And no matter what the nationals say. traitors (fifth column) about the Caucasus, only in peace and friendship will the enemy be defeated. We need Great Russia, the West needs a scorched desert. Think with your head!
  60. The Art of War
    0
    April 7 2014 14: 53
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bFZuihQVhc
  61. Jedi
    -3
    April 7 2014 14: 55
    Quote: padonok.71
    As I understand it, if the Russians are higher and more important to me than everyone else, then I am a fascist?

    Yes, you understand everything correctly. if you are Russian and say loudly: stop feeding the Caucasus. They will tell you that you are a fascist and give you three rubles. and tanned guys from the villages at this time will dance lizginka on Red Square and for this they will be given an FSB officer's certificate, a gold-plated pistol and the honorary title of Hero of Russia..
    1. 0
      April 7 2014 16: 43
      You, Jedi, are a provocateur and your place is where you send everyone, to the distant three-ruble note!!
    2. 0
      April 7 2014 20: 11
      Quote: Jedi
      and tanned guys from the villages will dance lizginka on Red Square at this time


      But for the statement that their ancestors were “illegally repressed,” excuse me, under this article they will just slap you on the horns.
      There’s no point in saying that it’s “nothing at all.”
      Even the acting president.
      There was a reason.
  62. padonok.71
    0
    April 7 2014 15: 49
    The Jedi said it right, smoothly. I am not calling for the slaughter of the Caucasus. But deal with them as harshly as possible. Up to the loss of rights and criminal punishment for lezginka in public places. We are the masters of our land, and they are Colorado potato beetles. And it turns out that the peasant who cleans his field of beetles is a fascist?
    1. 0
      April 7 2014 16: 45
      Don’t you think, you bastard, that it’s the same Colorado beetle?
      1. padonok.71
        0
        April 7 2014 18: 10
        No, your Imperial Majesty (Presbyter John 1) doesn’t seem like anything to me, unlike you who live in the world of your Christian illusions. I saw what your favorite abreks were doing in 99-2001. And unlike you, I understand perfectly well that peaceful existence with these Zelemkhans is not possible in principle. Read history and learn military science, not any Christian nonsense. Because when they come to use you like a donkey, instead of resisting them, you will also organize an oral conversation. Think about it.
  63. Jedi
    -1
    April 7 2014 16: 08
    Quote: padonok.71
    . And it turns out that the peasant who cleans his field of beetles is a fascist?

    in the end yes. according to our wonderful legislation and wise policies of the party (United Russia) and government. I also don’t want and don’t encourage anyone to cut anyone. but I want (I don’t even know why) for cheerful, ruddy guys from Chechnya, Dagestan and other republics of the northern and not so Caucasus to live cheerfully, richly and happily in their villages. they prayed while standing, 4 times a day, grazed their sheep and rams in mountain pastures, cheerfully and enthusiastically they would clean up their shit with a shovel... but I’m afraid that they would call me a fascist for this too.
    1. +1
      April 7 2014 16: 49
      [quote=Jedi][quote=padonok.71]. ... but I'm afraid that they will call me a fascist for this too.[/quote]
      Don’t be afraid, you are already something that I don’t even want to name. It’s very good that we have such harsh legislation and such a wonderful leader! And if you light things up... you'll get it to the fullest! You can hardly be corrected, you... finish your food
    2. padonok.71
      -1
      April 7 2014 18: 15
      Ay Dzheda, baby. Respect to you. The main thing is not to piss off in front of the animals and not to let them down.
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  65. +1
    April 7 2014 16: 18


    This is how fascist propaganda ends
  66. 0
    April 7 2014 17: 08


    Fascism is an abomination that threatens the world.
  67. Jedi
    0
    April 7 2014 17: 21
    Quote: ioann1
    and such a wonderful leader! And if you light things up... you'll get it to the fullest! You can hardly be fixed, you

    Yes, I agree, our national leader is truly “dreamy”, you probably pray to his photograph (which hangs in the corner) like Vladimir the Red Sun. and now tell me that I am “igniting” or “annealing”??? Did I even say a single lie?
    1. +1
      April 7 2014 18: 42
      You're just talking nonsense!
  68. 0
    April 7 2014 17: 24
    Quote: NAPOLEON
    but I like Suvorov, he at least says that we didn’t oversleep the Germans but simply did not have time to get ahead of them. and the Stalinist version says that they overslept were not ready to build a bright future instead of preparing for war. I recommend an icebreaker to everyone.


    Why advertise the book of a traitor? It was written with the money of the customer, with manipulation and deliberately distorted facts and their interpretation.
  69. Jedi
    0
    April 7 2014 17: 44
    Quote: oreh72
    Why advertise the book of a traitor? It was written with the money of the customer, with manipulation and deliberately distorted facts and their interpretation.

    but I don’t like him either, as a traitor and ... let’s, together with you, we object to him with bare facts. and after that he will become ashamed, and he will die (from shame, of course)...
  70. Jedi
    0
    April 7 2014 18: 42
    Quote: padonok.71
    Corporal
    padonok.71 RU Today, 18:15 ↑

    Ay Dzheda, baby. Respect to you. The main thing is not to piss, in front of the animals and not to let them down

    and thank you for your support, I haven’t seen adequately intelligible people on this site for a long time. I’m not a fascist or a Putinist... I want to speak and hear the truth...
  71. Jedi
    0
    April 7 2014 18: 44
    okay, I'll go fly, where is my "corsair"
  72. padonok.71
    0
    April 7 2014 19: 00
    Quote: Jedi
    Quote: oreh72
    Why advertise the book of a traitor? It was written with the money of the customer, with manipulation and deliberately distorted facts and their interpretation.

    but I don’t like him either, as a traitor and ... let’s, together with you, we object to him with bare facts. and after that he will become ashamed, and he will die (from shame, of course)...

    It’s hard for him, the enemy, to revive. He's just spouting facts, you traitor. And the bastard just goes straight to his enemy’s theory. And if his theory is not correct, then the Russian people are all subhumans, which is why our historians are trying to break this theory, but it doesn’t work out yet. And it won't happen in the future.
    P.S.: Jedi, by any chance, are you from the 71st MRR? There was also a Jedi there.
  73. Jedi
    0
    April 7 2014 19: 35
    Quote: padonok.71
    P.S.: Jedi, by any chance, are you from the 71st MRR? There was also a Jedi there.

    what is 71msp? I don’t know, I’m an ordinary person, by the way, I turned 50 yesterday...
    .....
  74. Jedi
    0
    April 7 2014 19: 37
    and called himself a Jedi (sorry, I bought a laser pointer on the Internet, it burns flies...)
  75. Jedi
    0
    April 7 2014 20: 04
    Quote: Jedi

    Jedi Today, 19:35

    Quote: padonok.71
    P.S.: Jedi, by any chance, are you from the 71st MRR? There was also a Jedi there.

    I’ve just been living here for a long time, almost since childhood, and I really love my country, my homeland, and believe it or not, during the Soviet times there weren’t even so many Chuchmeks in Moscow, Voronezh, or Yaroslavl... and now call me a fascist again. if I'm wrong...
    1. padonok.71
      0
      April 7 2014 23: 08
      Not about 71 SMEs - it seemed like we passed. And about the stuffed animals, everything is true. I don't mind coming, living, working. Just leave your “culture” at home. Speak Russian, live like people, but if you can’t, stay at home. And if you did something, answer in triplicate, because... You have been trusted to walk on the land of my ancestors. And for all those who are tolerant, I will say (whom God has given the simple orders to endure all sorts of scum on their land) they are all like this until the first incident with the animals, and then they start screaming louder than anyone else: “Oh, help! Police! Army! How did you let this happen! Save me.” quicker!". So there is zero attention to them from normal people, Russians (not Russians).
      It's nice to talk (read) with just a normal guy. If it’s familiar, I’m sorry, not out of malice, out of poverty of upbringing.
  76. 0
    April 7 2014 21: 34
    I categorically do not support the bill adopted by the Duma!!!
    In a country that suffered more from Nazism than others, responsibility for the persons indicated in points a., b. and c. should be ONLY as an exceptional measure of punishment, nothing else!
    You can give some kind of symbolic conditional sentence for separatism, for political incompatibility with the authorities that does not go beyond the bounds of reason.
    But those who openly, like Novodvorskaya, for example, preach hatred of their people, support and justify the SS followers, must be isolated from this people by ANY means. YES so that no one remembers that such individuals exist or existed!
    P.S. This incomprehensible, from a biological point of view, creature - Novodvorskaya - has already said so much in recent months that it is time to either be imprisoned for extremism or killed, so that God forbid it does not multiply. Power, where are you?!
  77. 0
    April 7 2014 22: 02
    I am for PUTIN, I am against fascism in all its manifestations, GET UP, HUGE COUNTRY.
  78. LIS 25
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    April 7 2014 22: 25
    It is high time! good
  79. 0
    April 7 2014 22: 45
    It’s high time, the correct law should have been passed a long time ago, so that how many young people could be saved from this propaganda.
  80. Kot bazilio
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    April 7 2014 23: 05
    It won't be enough - up to 3 years!
    If they took the Austrian law in its entirety, they would at the same time shut the mouths of the “European-oriented” - after all, and the law would be developed entirely in Europe - go ahead and blather about violating international norms, etc.
  81. padonok.71
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    April 7 2014 23: 13
    By the way, I turned 50 yesterday...
    Congratulations from the bottom of my heart. I wish it always.
  82. Jedi
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    April 7 2014 23: 23
    Quote: padonok.71
    ". So, there is zero attention to them from normal people, Russians (not Russians).

    yes, sorry if I didn’t put it that way, but I completely agree with you...
  83. Jedi
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    April 7 2014 23: 47
    Quote: ksv1973
    the country that suffered from Nazism more than others, responsibility for the persons indicated in points a., b. and c.

    I absolutely agree with you, and don’t be offended if I spoke harshly about the Chyuchmeks, well, it hurts...
  84. 0
    April 8 2014 07: 17
    Finally, at least our little pigs have gone crazy...
  85. 0
    April 8 2014 08: 46
    Quote: Jedi
    Quote: oreh72
    Why advertise the book of a traitor? It was written with the money of the customer, with manipulation and deliberately distorted facts and their interpretation.

    but I don’t like him either, as a traitor and ... let’s, together with you, we object to him with bare facts. and after that he will become ashamed, and he will die (from shame, of course)...

    Yes, they have already objected to him, if my memory serves me right, A. Isaev “Antisuvorov”. And he didn’t die, the infection... Maybe a vigorous loaf at the place of residence?
  86. 0
    April 8 2014 08: 47
    it's time! It's time to introduce execution in Russia! hurley plant them? so that they write a new minecamp there? and upon being released, they gained momentum with renewed vigor? either imprisoned for life... or quietly so that no one sees into the forest and alive under the turf... just like the bastard did at Babi Yar and not only
  87. sanek0207
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    April 8 2014 10: 56
    SAD SITUATION!!
  88. Jedi
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    April 8 2014 18: 47
    Quote: oreh72
    Yes, they have already objected to him, if my memory serves me right, A. Isaev “Antisuvorov”. And he didn’t die, the infection... Maybe a vigorous loaf at the place of residence?

    Your memory really doesn’t fail you, but looking at Mr. Isaev, you can’t shake the feeling that he’s “lying like he’s breathing.” To avoid this deceptive feeling, let's ask Mr. Isaev and the company to open the archives of the Great Patriotic War (World War II)...
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      April 8 2014 18: 52
      Quote: Jedi
      but looking at Mr. Isaev, the feeling that “he’s lying is like breathing.” To avoid this deceptive feeling, let's ask Mr. Isaev and the company to open the archives of the Great Patriotic War (World War II)...

      You need to understand this, rodent cutters and co. carry the “holy” truth-womb?
  89. Jedi
    -1
    April 8 2014 23: 01
    Quote: stalkerwalker
    You need to understand this, rodent cutters and co. carry the “holy” truth-womb?

    No one brings or will bring the “uterus of truth” to me. I’m old for a long time and I don’t trust anyone... but do you yourself think the archives should be opened???
  90. Jedi
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    April 9 2014 01: 24
    Quote: stalkerwalker
    Having looked at Mr. Isaev, I can’t shake the feeling that “he’s lying like he’s breathing.” To avoid this deceptive feeling, let's ask Mr. Isaev and the company to open the archives of the Great Patriotic War (World War II)...
  91. 0
    April 9 2014 06: 42
    With the adoption of this article, I think it is necessary to remove all secrecy stamps from documents relating to the Great Patriotic War. So that people know.

    Otherwise you feel like another idiot when last year on the eve of Victory - the Moscow Region decided declassify (partially) documents relating to the Victory Parade in 1945.!!!!!!!!

    How many years have passed? There are already very few veterans left. And they hide everything!
    As a result, you begin to understand that not everything is so smooth and pure. Somewhere they are cheating.