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Construction of feudal Ukraine: what has been done in six months

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Autumn 2013. The reality in which there are no burning tires on the streets of Kiev. Europe is preparing to take stock of the Eastern Partnership, in the Ukrainian and Russian segments of the Internet - holy war on the theme “What will be the life after the summit in Vilnius”. Our position was clear: Ukraine is taking leaps and bounds (and most importantly, voluntarily and with a song) moving toward neo-feudalism. It's time to brush up on recent forecasts. How has the situation changed over the past months?


Construction of feudal Ukraine: what has been done in six months


Coup for speeding up

Usually, the coup ends not only with a change of faces on TV, but also with certain changes in the internal and foreign policy of the state. The grouping within the ruling class, realizing that it fails to realize its vision of the state project (let this vision consist in the usual desire to seize the trough) in an evolutionary way, during elections, shifts the previous power by force and begins to steer in its own way. In the case of Ukraine, everything is different. The regime of Yanukovych was shifted to accelerate the course towards the feudalization of the republic.

Recall how it was:

1. Just before the summit, the rhetoric of Prime Minister N. Azarov, and then V. Yanukovych, is changing dramatically. There is information that Ukraine will not survive the economic shock of falling exports to the CU. What happened next - we all remember.

2. On the eve of the signing of the association agreement in March 2014, it turns out (!) That the government of N. Azarov correctly estimated the risks. Therefore, March 21 was signed so-called. political block of agreement, a set of declarations. The economic bloc is postponed for the summer (upon the occurrence of which it may well be postponed again). Needless to say, a worthy result of the coup.

At the same time, marking Ukraine on the spot is detrimental to its industry to the same extent as the accelerated association. The State Statistics Service of Ukraine has already recorded a drop in exports to Russia by about 1,5 times. In some industries, the situation is even worse, for example, the export of wagons has decreased by 85%. This is not even a fall, but a corkscrew.

This is not just about falling exports, this is about the rapid de-industrialization of Ukraine. And not the one that happened in 80 – 90. in Europe and the USA as a process accompanying the establishment of a post-industrial society (no, I myself do not believe in these fairy tales, but soon the Ukrainians will hear that this is supposedly quite normal, so this phrase is for them). Europe and the United States brought their production to China, India, Latin America. Ukraine, on the other hand, does not tolerate them anywhere, it simply about them ... em (the word for meaningless and irretrievable loss).

Practice of feudalization

Such phenomena need to be interpreted in a complex way, although it is difficult in the format of a journalistic article. The easiest way to illustrate what is happening with a poem by S. Marshak "Nail and Horseshoe." The collapse of the Ukrainian car building perfectly fits into this formula.

So, the problems of car builders are:

1. Reducing domestic demand for rolled products;

2. Reducing orders from manufacturers of wheel sets;

3. Reducing the filling of budgets in a number of cities (Lugansk, Kremenchug, Dneprodzerzhinsk, Mariupol);

4. And, of course, reducing the consumption of households - families of workers left without earnings.

So far we are talking only about one branch - “the horse is lame”. When there are several industries, it will fit to talk about the complex dying out of the infrastructure of large industrial cities of the Southeast - it will have nothing to contain. As well as satellite cities - life in them is supported by the work of factories. As a result, the South-East will return to the feudal practice of survival, which has long been living in the West of Ukraine: half-empty villages and towns, mostly populated by children and old people (adults in earnings). This is already a reality, not coming, but coming: the volume of remittances to Ukraine in 2013 increased by 13% (to 8,5 billion dollars) and amounted to 4,7% of GDP. With such rates Ukraine will soon take a worthy place in this tablet. By the way, pay attention to her. These countries are not only permanent donors of their labor resources, but also permanent centers of instability and chaos. That, in fact, creates favorable conditions for the export of workers. Of course, chaos must be maintained, and this work is carried on tirelessly. It is this dual model (“chaos-neo-feudalism — neo-feudalism-chaos”) that awaits Ukraine. This paragraph was for those who represent neo-feudalism with some mixture of cheap popular pastoral and ecotourism.

Stylistic parallels

External attributes are no less eloquent. We have already noted how the oligarchs from the nominal masters of the regions turned into actual ones, becoming not either tycoons or barons. Yes, and the overthrow of Yanukovych happened quite to himself in the style of A. Dumas (“20 years later”): fronda, princes, and the besieged monarch.

A bankrupt state cannot and is not able to manage its property. The “natural” solution in such cases is the practice of payoffs. Only now it is not a delegation of the right to collect taxes, but a large-scale privatization. It is characteristic that we are again talking about the course of the previous government, only more forced (what and how Yanukovych planned to sell, you can read here). It seems that the only fault of V. Yanukovych is that he was not enough for Yanukovych.

Against the backdrop of a series of political scandals that have shaken Ukraine in recent years, the reduction of social infrastructure has probably gone unnoticed by an outside observer. Having scored the relevant queries in the search, you will receive not yet massive, but no longer isolated facts of the closure (attempts to close) of schools and hospitals in Ukraine. Of course, a decrease in the population from 52 to 45 million people implies a corresponding reduction in educational and medical institutions. But it's not only that. The social infrastructure inherited from the Ukrainian SSR cannot be kept on tax deductions from privatized enterprises (children's task about a pool and two pipes). Taxes can only contain what the Bolsheviks started the Soviet project almost 100 years ago: Zemstvo hospitals that provided a minimum of medical care, and Zemstvo schools with a 3-4-year course of study in basic subjects (adjusted for historical difference, of course).

And finally, the process of forming mini-armies, a kind of new Landsknecht detachment, is under way.

Why is everything happening like this, because “the dictator is bad and the revolutionaries are good”? The fact is that the Ukrainian elite (the whole) has taken a conscious course toward dismantling the state. Both by our own efforts and by the efforts of foreign politicians whom the elites turned for "support".

Ukraine does not collapse as a result of chaos and war, Ukraine is falling apart in order to create chaos instead of order and state and reduce social relations to a simplified (neo-feudal) model.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 April 6 2014 10: 08
    +68
    There is a very strong conviction that Europe has decided to urgently "replace" Arab and African guest workers with immigrants from Ukraine ... I'm afraid that such opinions are not groundless ...
    1. thrower
      thrower April 6 2014 10: 24
      +52
      Serf culture, white complexion, desire to adopt the culture of Europe - of course, Ukrainians are better than Arabs. But it is not clear, but will they work, or will they go for benefits?
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      2. polite people
        polite people April 6 2014 10: 29
        +23
        Or maybe they decided to pour a little Slavic Ukrainian blood into their gay dying carcasses. Scha hohlushki rush to Geyropu.
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          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker April 6 2014 11: 03
            +12
            Quote: thrower
            Khokhlushki is already there, in lace panties.

            .... And "give" at a rate, regardless of nationality ... wassat
            1. Ruswolf
              Ruswolf April 6 2014 13: 33
              +6

              stalkerwalker

              Quote: thrower

              Khokhlushki is already there, in lace panties.


              .... And "give" at a rate, regardless of nationality ... wassat

              Only here is a problem!
              They do not give Russia from their principles
              And in Geyrop .... they are not taken on the basis of their national dermocratic orientations!
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker April 6 2014 13: 57
                +15
                Quote: Ruswolf
                They do not give Russia from their principles

                Give, give ... And still as give ... laughing
                Quote: Ruswolf
                And in Geyrop .... they are not taken on the basis of their national dermocratic orientations!

                "Intelligence reported" - in the houses of "creativity" in Polyandia there are heated discussions among the "attendants" - zapadenki vs oriental women. Moldovans and Belarusians are neutral ... laughing
                1. Ruswolf
                  Ruswolf April 6 2014 14: 05
                  +9
                  stalkerwalker
                  Give, give ... And still as give ... laughing

                  Well, then Russia won! fellow
                  1. VOLCHOXURAL
                    VOLCHOXURAL April 6 2014 16: 09
                    +6
                    Quote: Ruswolf

                    Well, then Russia won! fellow

                    Russia has always won! soldier laughing
                    1. Horde
                      Horde April 6 2014 17: 34
                      -12%
                      Quote: VOLCHONOKSURALA
                      Russia has always won!

                      and the collapse of the USSR then, as they say, and a wolf cub?
                      1. GreatRussia
                        GreatRussia April 6 2014 17: 57
                        +8
                        Donetsk began to operate.
                        Captured by admin. building.
                        Gather people into the militia.
                        Live from the roof of a captured building.


                        http://www.ustream.tv/channel/artem77


                        In Lugansk the admin is also captured. building:

                        About a thousand pro-Russian activists stormed the building of the SBU in Lugansk, the newspaper XXI Century reports. According to the publication, at first the demonstrators picketed the power department and threw eggs at it, and then burst inside.

                        When the protesters began the assault, they began to hose them at the entrance. After that, tear gas was released from the SBU building.

                        About a thousand pro-Russian activists stormed the building of the SBU in Lugansk, the newspaper XXI Century reports. According to the publication, at first the demonstrators picketed the power department and threw eggs at it, and then burst inside.

                        When the protesters began the assault, they began to hose them at the entrance. After that, tear gas was released from the SBU building.

                        According to the XXI Century, the Russian tricolor was installed on the visor of the building.

                        Activists shout pro-Russian slogans, demand a referendum and urge local authorities to release people's leaders, including the region’s elected president, Alexander Kharitonov, who was detained by SBU officials on March 14. The People’s Governor was accused of violently changing the constitutional order, riots and the seizure of public buildings.

                        Pro-Russian protests today also take place in Donetsk and Kharkov.


                        Читать полностью: http://www.km.ru/world/2014/04/06/protivostoyanie-na-ukraine-2013-14/736642-v-lu

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                      2. Chikua
                        Chikua April 6 2014 20: 27
                        +18
                        Kharkiv. Right Sector militants crawl along the corridor of shame [06/04/2014]
                      3. Kot bazilio
                        Kot bazilio April 6 2014 23: 55
                        +3
                        Thu!
                        Well, what kind of "boyovyky PS" is this ???
                        In fact, these are "tsezhedis", the same as those who unarmedly burned half of Kiev and killed people in the heat of "European integration".
                        It’s a pity that the police didn’t let them also note how the Berkut members of the other guys were at one time. To lower, t.s. critical level of Svidomo.
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                  5. Ruswolf
                    Ruswolf April 6 2014 19: 29
                    +7
                    Horde
                    and the collapse of the USSR then, as they say, and a wolf cub?

                    Are you confusing a child?
                    He said
                    Russia has always won!

                    And you tell him about the USSR
                    Here look:
                    Allied - CAS - flew away, but Р - Russia - stayed!
                    Russia is on its feet, allied .... not really. So Teen Wolf is right!
                  6. VOLCHOXURAL
                    VOLCHOXURAL April 6 2014 19: 50
                    +10
                    Quote: Horde

                    and the collapse of the USSR then, as they say, and a wolf cub?

                    This is one betrayal in war, one defeat!
                    But we didn’t disappear, we didn’t turn into a wild walk-field, a handful of banana republics like Africa!
                    Yes, our consciousness was temporarily fooled, we were led by some sort of democratic values.
                    But we rethought it, we realized that nothing more than the slogans of enemy agitators. Today we have already regained the most from what we possessed, they reckon with us accordingly - the enemies are afraid and hate, and friends who have not forgotten respect us!
                    The people today understand this, when astronomical means began to be sent to the defense industry, he was not opposed, although not everything is great in the social network, when, according to polls on the street, citizens agreed with understanding, it became clear that people understand that prosperity is great, that the state should be military, that the policy should be its own, distinct from all, not requiring consent from abroad, but requiring recognition!
                    And I'm sure we will not turn off this path! Since it was precisely collapse that became shock therapy for us, which made our feelings of national identity worsen!
                    So then we did not lose, then we just hooked on the sidelines! Here.
                  7. Ruswolf
                    Ruswolf April 6 2014 21: 07
                    +3
                    Good for you!
                    Think in the right direction!
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                2. Tersky
                  Tersky April 6 2014 22: 11
                  +5
                  Quote: Horde
                  and the collapse of the USSR then, as they say

                  There is no need to put on one scale a banal betrayal and war; the history of the USSR is far from the whole history of Russia, but its milestone. And a small touch, at one time Kutuzov surrendered Moscow to save Russia ..., this is me to the collapse of the USSR
                3. Ruswolf
                  Ruswolf April 6 2014 23: 26
                  +4
                  Victor! Greetings! hi
                  I noticed that recently there are such concepts:
                  - If Good, then the USSR is us! We were one! We were afraid! We are brothers!
                  - And if Bad ... then the USSR is Russia ...
                  And the old saying goes into the language
                  "The cake is eaten by everyone in the place, but shit one by one."
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        3. stasimar
          stasimar April 6 2014 19: 54
          +2
          what about the Russians? You, I see, are well informed.
          in advance, thank you
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker April 7 2014 00: 06
            +1
            Quote: stasimar
            what about the Russians? You, I see, are well informed.
            advance, thank you

            Take a trip, take an interest. pzhlst laughing
            1. stasimar
              stasimar April 7 2014 02: 20
              0
              what do you cut back? you made yourself a specialist on fallen women of different nationalities. Come on and tell the Russians. or they are not full of brothels in Turkey and all sorts of hamburgs.
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker April 7 2014 15: 44
                +1
                Quote: stasimar
                what do you cut back?

                I, unlike you, have a normal sexual orientation.
                If you have problems - consult a doctor, my work is on a different profile.
                Quote: stasimar
                you made yourself a specialist on fallen women of different nationalities

                Who are you to talk to me in that tone?
                But I will personally answer you.
                I haven’t written this anywhere - don’t give your dirty thoughts to mine.
                And I'm not trying to look better than I really am. Which is. With all its advantages and disadvantages ....
                If you have problems with potency, or just women "don't like" - Dalia Grybauskaite - your half laughing
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    3. Mih
      Mih April 6 2014 19: 46
      +3
      Cynicism - does not correspond to the rank of Russian officers.
      1. sso-xnumx
        sso-xnumx April 6 2014 20: 43
        +1
        Or maybe he is not an officer at all ???
  2. aleck-nagaj
    aleck-nagaj April 6 2014 13: 50
    +4
    I agree. Europe and so has 25% forgive me, Ukrainian representatives. And schA also hot forelocks explode, like, work
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  4. DMB-78
    DMB-78 April 6 2014 19: 24
    0
    Quote: thrower
    But the aging European mares and hot Ukrainian guys will spud.

    Nope, they won’t, they’ll all leave for work laughing
  5. Mih
    Mih April 6 2014 19: 29
    0

    Cynicism - does not correspond to the rank of Russian officers.
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  • Stalker
    Stalker April 6 2014 17: 15
    +13
    Or maybe they decided to pour a little Slavic Ukrainian blood into their gay dying carcasses.

    It was necessary to ask veterans .... laughing
    1. waisson
      waisson April 6 2014 18: 25
      +12
      changing add repeating laughing
      1. Horde
        Horde April 6 2014 18: 38
        0
        Quote: waisson
        changing add repeating


        SO!!!
      2. Mih
        Mih April 6 2014 19: 45
        0
        I agree. But when it was. And then the Hungarian events. In other matters, I agree with what happened, but the sediment ... The sediment always remains.
      3. APASUS
        APASUS April 6 2014 20: 38
        +4
        - Did you leave in Germany?
        - Yes!
        - A tourist?
        - No, a soldier!
        1. thimble
          thimble April 7 2014 04: 22
          0
          This is about me. Nice to remember youth!
    2. Mih
      Mih April 6 2014 19: 37
      +5
      Please note that officially Ukrainians are SLAVES. While there is no other alien intervention (reportedly from galaxies), I ask that all normal people in Ukraine be considered Russian, which corresponds to objective reality, as we were taught ... (CPSU and History of the Russian Empire)
      1. sleepy
        sleepy April 7 2014 03: 12
        0
        Quote: Mih
        "Please note that officially Ukrainians are SLAVS ...
        ... please consider all normal people in Ukraine - Russian,
        which corresponds to objective reality, as we were taught ...
        (KPSS and History of the Russian Empire) ".


        Ukraine has long been taught in its textbooks.

        "When in Russia we say that Ukrainians are the same Russians,
        they forget that in 23 years a whole generation of people has grown,
        who do not know any other homeland except independent Ukraine.
        Everyone who is under 30 years old in Ukraine today went to first grade
        already independent schools ... ... Many are surprised - where did the crowds of Svidomo madmen come out who write absolutely incomprehensible things to the mind
        and behave like embittered nonentities?
        The answer is obvious: these people graduated from independent schools ... ".
        http://ru-kamerton.livejournal.com/75600.html
      2. Nicanor
        Nicanor April 7 2014 05: 49
        0
        And all not normal who to consider?
  • Gloria45
    Gloria45 April 6 2014 19: 53
    +3
    And you do not know how they hunt for our children?
    And how many children have already been stolen?
    And even in some countries there is an unspoken export plan
    Russian gene pool. Europe is dying. I'm afraid to assume
    that soon Israel can significantly expand the territory.
    I would like to hope that Russia will get ahead
    schools with a 3-4-year course in basic subjects

    here by the way the page from the textbook of the main subject,
    but somehow everything is so contradictory, to lie under
    The EU and teaching in school is such a fantasy.
    1. sso-xnumx
      sso-xnumx April 6 2014 20: 50
      0
      First, the question: - who is hunting?
      Secondly, the answer: - or rather the diagnosis: "megalomania" ...
      PS (on such a scale can only be treated with hardened core pills)
      1. thrower
        thrower April 6 2014 21: 34
        +4
        There was a note about the appearance in Lviv of people who offered doctors additional income, and there was a proposal to make a transplantology department in the hospital.
      2. Gloria45
        Gloria45 April 6 2014 23: 04
        +1
        First, the question: - who is hunting?
        I’ll tell you who these hunters are, their name is juvenile services.
        Today, this very theft is especially
        Finland scored. Lavrov raised a question about this, but the answer
        was unequivocal: "We see no need to discuss this."
        Sorry, I can’t find the video.
        1. Gloria45
          Gloria45 April 7 2014 00: 22
          0
          I found something true 12 year
  • maximus235
    maximus235 April 6 2014 11: 01
    +12
    As far as I know (Censorship) (they are the ones who most want to go to Europe) they are all dull, greedy and lazy. I emphasize once again that it is about (censorship), and not all Ukrainians.
    1. sergaivenski
      sergaivenski April 6 2014 11: 34
      +12
      I completely agree with YOU, DEAR FORUM !!! I had the opportunity to compare guys from Kharkov and subjects from Western Ukraine. Kharkov residents are alive, active, they try to literally do everything (!!!) themselves, they can’t tolerate netting,
      nicknames !!! "Westerners" are trying to literally steal everything somewhere!
      And having conceived the EUROPEAN in the center of Kiev, the USA and Europe relied precisely on the "Westerners" who were flattered by the cookies brought by Madame Ashton. They did not think with their heads that the cookies also cost money. And it will take a terribly long time to
      "Westerners" have understood something !!! Now they enjoy FREEDOM !!!
      1. Borz
        Borz April 6 2014 13: 26
        +5
        So Ashton didn’t hand out cookies, but Vika Nuland. And that's right, I agree with you.
        1. papik09
          papik09 April 7 2014 03: 34
          +1
          Also say "Vikusya"Nuland am . Cat she is torn, no more angry Prostitute "under-table" angry !!!!!!! And finally, I put "+" for clarification laughing drinks
      2. Mih
        Mih April 6 2014 20: 09
        +2
        Because Kharkov is Russia, and no one can change this !!!
      3. APASUS
        APASUS April 6 2014 20: 40
        +1
        Quote: sergaivenski
        They were flattered by the cookies brought by Madame Ashton. We didn’t think with their heads that the cookies also cost money. And it will take a terribly long time for the "Westerners" to understand something !!! Now they enjoy FREEDOM !!!

        And when will this brainwashing fashion go away?
        Free cheese is usually in a mousetrap ............
    2. Mih
      Mih April 6 2014 19: 56
      0
      Ha, you probably served there. At least one fellow soldier is here. Liter you are right. An exact remark so that the Euromai does not speak .. Maxшimus !! (235- did not understand)
  • dimdimich71
    dimdimich71 April 6 2014 12: 18
    +1
    I repeat, who will work for Europe will eat sssssss-, all the fat is in unison, in ...
  • nikolaev
    nikolaev April 7 2014 01: 51
    0
    33
    According to Oleg Frolov, at the moment, volunteers from different regions of Ukraine are arriving in the building of the Regional State Administration. People are preparing to repulse the assault: pour Molotov cocktails, strengthen doors and windows, etc. Alpha and some right-handed one were sent to Donetsk. The sales leadership of the local police department refused to negotiate with the demonstrators ... Ahead of the assault and the blood of Donetsk ...
    In Kharkov, 6 helicopters of the Kiev junta with an amphibious assault and AN-24 landed, 2 armored personnel carriers approached ...
    1. VOLCHOXURAL
      VOLCHOXURAL April 7 2014 02: 31
      +1
      TOP What you need in captured RSA (maximum repost)
      April 7, 2014, Empire
      KHARKOV, DONETSK, LUGANSK!

      What you really can help:

      First of all, PEOPLE are needed, warm yourself, take food with you.

      NECESSARY IN THE BUILDINGS OF THE RSA (in Lugansk in SBU):

      1. PHYSICAL SOLUTION MEDICAL, MILK (from gas), LEMONS, WATER AND FIRST AID KITS, ADHESIVE PLASTER, BANDS, GREEN, FOOD, WATER, ~ CHLORGEXIDINE, ALL FOR FIRST AID, CAR FIRST AID KITCHEN, !!!!
      DOCTORS AND NURSES, ACTIVISTS AND MEN NEEDED.
      2. TIRES for barricades
      3. WATER, FOOD, CANNED GOODS, ALL FOR HOLD ... (will be needed today and tomorrow, possibly longer)
      4. CHARGERS, MICRO USB
      5. GENERATORS, EXTENSIONS, LAMPS, LAMPS, FUEL
      6. URGENT: BLANKETS, BEDSETS, DUVET BLOCKS.
      7. SAND, BAGS ...
      8. MEANS OF PROTECTION: SHIELDS, HELMETS, ARMOR VEHICLES, OAKES, STICKS I.T.D.

      THIS IS THE LAST CHANCE. IF ACCESSIBLE - TOMORROW ALL RESET.
      Stand up men! HELP!
      Junta away! Nazis away!
      We organize with friends and neighbors and in the RSA.
      KHARKOV DONETSK LUHANSK OTHER CITIES BROKEN ALL WAYS
      URGENTLY FELL TREES ON THE ROAD !!!
      CONTRACT WITH THE DRIVERS ON THE ROAD WHICH ARE SELLING SHELLS AND DUMP ON THE ROAD !!!
      DRAW ALL Junk on the road !!!!
      LEAVE THE MACHINES AND REMOVE THE BATTERIES !!!
      GOD WITH US!!!
  • 53-Sciborskiy
    53-Sciborskiy April 6 2014 10: 31
    +43
    The Ukrainian married a Russian, before his wedding night, his father gives him instructions.
    - First, throw your wife heavily on the bed so that she knows that Ukraine is power!
    - Then abruptly rip off your clothes so that you know that Ukraine is beauty.
    And the grandfather sits in a corner and listening says:
    - And then start dr ... so that you know that Ukraine is independence.
    1. Mih
      Mih April 6 2014 20: 19
      0
      All this is useless. You are a good guy. everything is visible, but stupid, excuse me if I offended.
  • W1950
    W1950 April 6 2014 10: 38
    +6
    It’s unlikely. Geyropa has obligations to its former colonies, especially the migrant workers from them do not really want to work, but live on benefits, and in order to pay them, they need markets such as Ukraine to push all illiquid assets there, to drive enslaved through IMF loans from the privatization of chernozems. Soon we will see Ukraine within 1654.
  • dmitriygorshkov
    dmitriygorshkov April 6 2014 10: 50
    +4
    Quote: svp67
    There is a very strong belief that Europe has decided to urgently "replace" Arab and African guest workers with immigrants from Ukraine ...

    And how do they get past the Gaster? Paris events show that the matter is not easy!
    Although ... equip veterans of the Maidan, give a command to clean up the territory ...
    And after stripping these maidanutye will go to plumbers on a competitive basis?
    Yes, there were questions all around, probably there weren’t such plans. They didn’t calculate so far and I VERY doubt that even in a very distant future they see Ukraine in Ye.S.
    E.S. too unstable design, what would they dream to test it for strength!
    And at the household level ... well, who wants to, so that the heroes of the Maidan without a muzzle and police escort roamed around his city?
  • Horde
    Horde April 6 2014 10: 53
    -40%
    how is it that Russian people ask Putin to HELP US and complete silence in response, WHY IS THIS PRESIDENT OF THE RUSSIAN COUNTRY NOT FOR RUSSIANS?
    1. nnz226
      nnz226 April 6 2014 11: 30
      +62
      Enter tanks or what? it’s already because of the Crimea in the geyropa screeching as in a pigsty, although the geyropa is a pigsty! BUT! In Crimea, a referendum was held, a declaration of independence from Rohland was announced, and then they applied to Russia. And in other places ?! Rallies? This is not a legal justification: at one rally they wave Russian flags, in the next square they wave yellow-black, and who will smash someone ?! When they took the regional and city councils by storm, they had to crush the deputies and force them to take legal decisions or change deputies. By the way, in Sevastopol it was: they forced the city council to recognize Chaly as the legal mayor of the city. That's the legal justification for the legality of the mayor! Next - see the latest Russian history of the Crimea and Sevastopol!
      1. Horde
        Horde April 6 2014 12: 03
        +8
        Quote: nnz226
        Enter tanks or what? it’s already because of Crimea in the geyropa screeching as in a pigsty, although the geyropa


        why are you so crazy Do not be afraid the Russians are at least good for the West, even bad ALWAYS THE ENEMIES. Or do you still not understand?
        Ukraine under the USSR was at least a distinctive, but completely Soviet education, dissenters -women had grown up in 20 years of independence, if you now give 20 miles of Russians for Ukrainianization, then in 20 years there will be 20 mil new Ukrainians-young people who will yell damn MOS_KALI THOSE. RUSSIA will receive 20 million ENEMIES.
        The decision must be made NOW. THIS IS OUR LAND AND OUR PEOPLE. And the opinion of the West should be accepted in this last issue of ours.
        1. Pashhenko Nikolay
          Pashhenko Nikolay April 6 2014 13: 41
          +14
          Not a single friend of mine from Kharkov is eager for Russia to free them from Ukraine. Why don't you know? Maybe they need time to think?
          1. Horde
            Horde April 6 2014 13: 50
            -5
            Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
            Not a single friend of mine from Kharkov is eager for Russia to free them from Ukraine. Why don't you know? Maybe they need time to think?


            I know because (censorship) is good everywhere, even in Ukraine, even in
            Ukraine ...
            1. Pashhenko Nikolay
              Pashhenko Nikolay April 6 2014 14: 11
              +2
              You don’t have to be rude. All my friends are completely Russian and some from Russia moved there in due time.
              1. Horde
                Horde April 6 2014 14: 24
                +6
                Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
                It’s not necessary. All my friends are completely Russian and some from Russia moved there in due time.


                Russians don't want to connect with Russians? you're lying ...
              2. Aptimist
                Aptimist April 6 2014 23: 37
                0
                Well, since you are so sure that everything is for the EU, all for a united Ukraine, why haven’t you held a referendum on a single issue ???
          2. svp67
            svp67 April 6 2014 14: 20
            +15
            Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
            Maybe they need time to think?

            Not only to think, but also to RECOGNIZE that the Russian tanks do not intend to free them from them ... that their whole future is in their hands ... and Russia, they are only ready to come to their aid and not only tanks .. .
            1. Horde
              Horde April 6 2014 14: 42
              +5
              Quote: svp67
              Not only to think, but also to RECOGNIZE that the Russian tanks do not intend to free them from them ... that their whole future is in their hands ... and Russia, they are only ready to come to their aid and not only tanks .. .


              your position spread across the table in a thin layer is absurd from beginning to end
              from history, can you recall how many Russians were in HALF in Latvia, and in Estonia, the majority, and the north of Kazakhstan-the overwhelming majority, and where are the Russians and these lands? if we wait, as you paint here, it will be so, but they forgot the example of KOSOV when the Albanian minority drove the Serbs out of their native land, what can we expect?
              1. svp67
                svp67 April 6 2014 14: 54
                +23
                Quote: Horde
                what is there to wait?

                Learn history. Now we are deliberately pushed to "drastic steps", wishing to repeat the scenario of the Crimean War ... And I will repeat once again - that in the South and East of Ukraine there is NO the situation that had developed in Crimea before. There, in the overwhelming majority, a completely different picture ... You should not deceive yourself. New Russia will be, but a little later. And we will not speed up this process with our tanks, but we will postpone it a turn ...
                1. Horde
                  Horde April 6 2014 15: 17
                  -6
                  Quote: svp67
                  Learn history. Now we are deliberately pushed to "sharp steps", wishing to repeat the scenario of the Crimean War


                  what kind of "historian" you are, I already understood from the topic "on which side is god" above the school textbook, and you are not able to jump history ...
                  CRIMEAN WAR say? and with whom with pin_dosami? but do we have a NUCLEAR WEAPON? or do you think banderland through a dig will climb? stupidity ...
                  Quote: svp67
                  And I repeat once again - that in the South and East of Ukraine there is NO the situation that previously prevailed in the Crimea. There, in the vast majority, a completely different picture ... Do not fool yourself.


                  and last fall, UKRAINE even remember what the situation was, forgotten already? your memory is short, a miserable hundred of Bandera's people has rocked ALL AUTHORITY in the state, this is done in the presence of WILL and MONEY ...
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 April 6 2014 15: 23
                    +10
                    Quote: Horde
                    what kind of "historian" you are, I already understood from the topic "on which side is god" above the school textbook, and you are not able to jump history ...

                    I can upset you, according to your answers, you and the school course did not master ...
                    Quote: Horde
                    CRIMEAN WAR say? and with whom with pin_dosami? but do we have a NUCLEAR WEAPON? or do you think banderland through a dig will climb? stupidity ...

                    You seem to have no understanding of historical realities at all ... "Crimean war scenario" is currently being applied to the South-East of Ukraine ... You are trying to talk to you as an adult, but you, just like a schoolboy, heard a familiar word and ... Hurray! !! ...
                    Quote: Horde
                    and last fall, UKRAINE even remember what the situation was, forgotten already? your memory is short, a miserable hundred of Bandera's people has rocked ALL AUTHORITY in the state, this is done in the presence of WILL and MONEY ...

                    So, if you consider yourself Russian, it’s not in Ukraine, but in Ukraine - that also says a lot ... are you from where such provocative?
                    1. Horde
                      Horde April 6 2014 16: 47
                      0
                      Quote: svp67
                      I can upset you, according to your answers, you and the school course did not master ...

                      you are incapable of upsetting me, but about the school course, but it was I who was the first in the previous topic who spoke about the battle of Dubno, and not you, and you did not even know about this, so much of what you say is CHEAP .. .


                      Quote: svp67
                      You seem to have no understanding of historical realities.


                      and of course you have? do not tell, you do not even perceive the role of PERSONALITY in history and attribute the loss in a major battle to the commanders of divisions and regiments ...


                      Quote: svp67
                      Crimean War scenario "is currently applied to the South-East of Ukraine ..


                      what is the scenario? You are probably waiting for the landing of the British troops in Kharkov? or French in Donetsk?
                      Well, quite in the spirit of a school course, at a mediocre level ...

                      Quote: svp67
                      So, if you consider yourself Russian, it’s not in Ukraine, but in Ukraine - that also says a lot ... are you from where such provocative?

                      I have long since departed from the understanding of UKRAINE as a national education is a project, and in Ukraine it is a shade of understanding of local realities, it would be possible for Yanuka to be in Ukraine because there was still some connection with Russia, and since there is no longer any connection with it, therefore, in Ukraine and in Vanderland. ..
                      about the "provocative" I'm Russian, not a Jew and not a Ukrainian, and my soul hurts for our people, besides, on this site I appeared before you, but where are you from so contradictory?
                    2. svp67
                      svp67 April 6 2014 19: 35
                      +1
                      Quote: Horde
                      about the battle of Dubno, and not you, but you didn’t even know about this, so much of what you say is CHAPTER ...

                      Yes, they made fun again ... say, the battle of Dubno ... We decided to open the eyes of the whole world. And about the Bialystok ledge did you hear something? Things were going on there a little earlier and worse ... Thank God for the History of military art he had a strong five. Speak Dubno the largest tank battle, nominally YES. And by value - BORDER BATTLE, as a result of which the German side did not achieve its main plan - the defeat of our troops on this sector of the front. To defeat - inflicted, but not defeated. Unlike the Western Front ... Here, Zhukov wasn’t found there, which led to TRAGEDY, since the most equipped and strongest front was actually defeated by June 26 ...
                      Yes, and already acting without Zhukov, the SWF was defeated - which led to the BIGGEST HISTORY IN THE ENVIRONMENT OF THE OPPOSITION Troops - the Kiev boiler. So, to blame Zhukov for everything - fear God.
                      Quote: Horde
                      what is the scenario? You are probably waiting for the landing of the British troops in Kharkov? or French in Donetsk?
                      Strategist You are our "homebrew". Learn history. In the Crimean War, Russia initially fought with Turkey, and quite successfully, only the trouble is, we did not know that Turkey entered into a secret treaty with England and France, according to which, in the event of a war between Turkey and Russia, they pledged to stand up for her if Russia will transfer the hostilities to Turkey. These countries have always strongly feared that Russia would take control of the straits and Constantinople ... And that's it ... as soon as our Nakhimov defeated the Turkish squadron in Sinop, and this is the territory of Turkey, they came out, first with ultimatum demands that Russia should fulfill could not, and then to direct military confrontation ...
                      In the current situation, the role of the former Turkey is assigned to Ukraine and is only to enter into a clash with the army of Ukraine on its territory, as NATO immediately stands up for it. And NATO has before us four-fold superiority in forces and means - the usual means of seeing the war ... If for you, it says something.
                      Quote: Horde
                      in addition to this site I appeared before you, but where are you from so conflicting?
                      And so what, I nagged you with pride? Everything is written in my profiles, I have nothing to hide.
                    3. Horde
                      Horde April 6 2014 23: 49
                      +1
                      Quote: svp67
                      The eyes of the whole world decided to open. And about the Bialystok ledge did you hear something? There, at that time, things were going on and worse.


                      why are you talking about the Bialystok operation? to show your erudition? moreover, they brought to this site what would the local shadow minus put me minuses for nothing? dishonestly ...
                      what do the bugs and the Bialystok have to do with it? just chatting like that?
                    4. Horde
                      Horde April 6 2014 23: 53
                      -3
                      Quote: svp67
                      And so what, I nagged you with pride? Everything is written in my profiles, I have nothing to hide.


                      you also see what is not, hallucinations are called ... fool
              2. Alekseev
                Alekseev April 6 2014 16: 19
                +12
                Quote: Horde
                a miserable hundred Bandera rocked ALL AUTHORITY in the state this is done if there is

                You hurried it up.
                Bandera and their sympathizers are currently in Ukraine "more than fucking" yes
                Unfortunately...
                1. Horde
                  Horde April 6 2014 17: 40
                  +2
                  Quote: Alekseev
                  You hurried it up.
                  Bandera and their sympathizers are currently in Ukraine "more than fucking"


                  by no means, those who are convinced a little, and who work for a little more money, and then those who are quite a lot are FRAUDED ...
                2. svp67
                  svp67 April 6 2014 19: 38
                  +3
                  Quote: Horde
                  by no means, those who are convinced a little, and who work for a little more money, and then those who are quite a lot are FRAUDED ...
                  Now it’s necessary for those deceived to give time to come to their senses. Time, it is working for us now.
                3. alexng
                  alexng April 6 2014 21: 53
                  0
                  Quote: Horde
                  Quote: Alekseev
                  You hurried it up.
                  Bandera and their sympathizers are currently in Ukraine "more than fucking"


                  by no means, those who are convinced a little, and who work for a little more money, and then those who are quite a lot are FRAUDED ...


                  ... You are the Horde, and "Us Rat". So "to hell" does not quite hold out.
                4. Horde
                  Horde April 6 2014 23: 11
                  +1
                  Quote: alexneg
                  You are the Horde, and "Us Rat". So "to hell" does not quite hold out.


                  are you a pun not serious...
          3. Aptimist
            Aptimist April 6 2014 23: 44
            0
            And what did they achieve ???
            do you want this? But only having already smeared here our country, people and army ??? For what, or for whom? And again, I repeat the question, what is the output ??? How do you imagine this ???
        2. Ivan 63
          Ivan 63 April 6 2014 15: 41
          +3
          Let's hope that something will still push us to "drastic steps" - not yet us, but the very population of the South and the East, and the SovFed has untied Putin's hands.
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        4. lg41
          lg41 April 6 2014 15: 42
          +4
          Very soon, NATO troops will be stationed in the eastern regions of Ukraine. AND EVERYTHING.
          1. svp67
            svp67 April 6 2014 15: 49
            +17
            Quote: lg41
            Very soon, NATO troops will be stationed in the eastern regions of Ukraine. AND EVERYTHING.

            Now, if only they try to do it, then it really will be EVERYTHING. There will be no more Ukraine, nor Europe, nor Russia, nor the USA - but there will be the BEGINNING OF A NEW HISTORY OF HUMANITY, from the Stone Age ...
          2. Alekseev
            Alekseev April 6 2014 17: 42
            +9
            Quote: lg41
            soon in the eastern regions of Ukraine NATO troops will be stationed. AND EVERYTHING.

            NATO countries love peace and stability more than anyone else! yes
            The population of Europe and North America lives too well, consuming the resources of the whole world, to risk such a sweet life proving something to the "vigorous" Russian bear on the Ukrainian-Russian border.
            Here you can stir up banderlogs, throw Babosiks to create an unstable Russophobic state, it is possible.
            But by ourselves ... no No. Well this is not to bomb Libya.
            Yes, they really don’t want to quarrel with Russia either, they say, there may be losses. yes
            Ukraine, unfortunately, has become a bargaining chip of the West in its global desire to dominate everyone.
            Well ... It's a pity, but the population of this very "coin" will have to take a sip of shit.
            It is a pity that not all the population deserves this, but many and many deserve it for sure.
            1. Horde
              Horde April 6 2014 18: 51
              -8
              Quote: Alekseev
              NATO countries love peace and stability more than anyone else!


              do not lie countries NATO love oil most of all and Russian women therefore climb to us ...
        5. Baloo
          Baloo April 6 2014 17: 13
          +4
          Sukashvili also thought that in 2008 Russians in tanks would drive into tiflis and would be hooligans. Geopolitics is a complex science, like diplomacy-the art of the possible, like medicine — making it painful not to harm.
      2. lg41
        lg41 April 6 2014 15: 39
        +4
        Right. The USA must respond to active offensive actions with active actions. As 100 years ago, so now the United States and Europe acted thoughtfully, professionally trained personnel, having funded them well. It is impossible to retreat, conduct defensive tactics. Nikolay II, Yanukovych - the results of defensive tactics.
        1. thrower
          thrower April 6 2014 17: 28
          +8
          There is a defensive tactic and there is a defeatist tactic. Russia now acts on the defensive, since much of the population of Southeast Ukraine believes precisely in Ukrainian propaganda. This is perfectly visible when you watch the rallies of Donetsk and Kharkov, I am generally silent about Dnepropetrovsk. Several thousand protesters are in the million-plus city, they are not able to defend their leaders, the Lugansk Guard only puts ultimatums, and then moves the dates of the speech.
          If Russia now introduces troops, a powerful fifth column will be formed, but why is it in Russia? I, against the fact that the Russian guys died for those who would spit in their backs.
          You are from Ukraine - create a primary cell, a person of five, let these five people pick up their fives, and so on. These are the basics of conspiratorial work.
          Organize, start recruiting the military from those parts that drove you.
          In other words, do something.
        2. yulka2980
          yulka2980 April 7 2014 07: 26
          0
          Yes, you compared Nicholas II and Yanukovych wassat
    2. Ruswolf
      Ruswolf April 6 2014 21: 35
      +3
      svp67
      Not only to think, but also to RECOGNIZE that the Russian tanks do not intend to free them from them ... that their whole future is in their hands ... and Russia, they are only ready to come to their aid and not only tanks .. .

      Sergei! hi Greetings!
      Agree with you!
      To help is to stand on the shoulder and carry together! And do not bear for someone! Moreover, if this one you are talking about, he himself does not know where and if he needs it!
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  • lg41
    lg41 April 6 2014 15: 24
    +1
    No need to brazenly lie
  • Setrac
    Setrac April 6 2014 14: 04
    +7
    Quote: Horde
    why are you so crazy Do not be afraid the Russians are at least good for the West, even bad ALWAYS THE ENEMIES. Or do you still not understand?

    What does the west have to do with it? The question is what the Ukrainians themselves want. Crimea wanted to go to Russia, while in other regions no such regrets have been observed. Well, they want to be independent - let them stand for their independence INDEPENDENTLY.
    1. Horde
      Horde April 6 2014 14: 26
      +5
      Quote: Setrac
      What does the west have to do with it? The question is what the Ukrainians themselves want


      we need to listen not to the opinion of "Ukrainians", but to the opinion of Russians, and the majority of Russians
      it’s not easy to defend, there is a need for Russia to help create an organization, as pin_ dos help Bandera, then the process will go ...
      1. Setrac
        Setrac April 6 2014 14: 44
        +2
        Quote: Horde
        we need to listen not to the opinion of "Ukrainians", but to the opinion of Russians, and the majority of Russians
        it’s not easy to defend, there is a need for Russia to help create an organization, as pin_ dos help Bandera, then the process will go ...

        What is the difference how to call people living in Ukraine, not in the name of the essence. You are trying to chat with your Nazi troubles the main question. Even if they are at least all 46 million will be Russian, they have no desire for Russia.
        1. Horde
          Horde April 6 2014 15: 04
          +3
          Quote: Setrac
          What is the difference how to call people living in Ukraine, not in the name of the essence. You are trying to chat with your Nazi troubles the main question. Even if they are at least all 46 million will be Russian, they have no desire for Russia.


          you seem to be one of those who once had similar views on history with me? but only any story is written for the PRESENT and for a specific people, if you offer to betray 20 miles of Russian people, then everything is clear with you who you are and what you are.

          Quote: Setrac
          You are trying to chat with your Nazi troubles the main question.


          please do not confuse please not with Nazi, but with NATIONALIST-RUSSIAN

          Quote: Setrac
          What is the difference how to call people living in Ukraine, not in the name of the essence.


          Now this is a pearl and you know from whom?
          there is one folk who is good everywhere, because he does not sow, does not plow, but has
          Quote: Setrac
          Even if they are at least all 46 million will be Russian, they have no desire for Russia.


          then wipe the Russian balls with the banners of RUSSIA ...
          1. Alll1
            Alll1 April 6 2014 15: 52
            +2
            For me, too, I would like to drive a tank to Berlin, but the President decided to wait, and now such a time, we must either support him in everything, or the enemy, and with the banner to stand on weekends is that, the maximum that can be done is cool!
        2. lg41
          lg41 April 6 2014 15: 49
          0
          Do not lie. Nasty
        3. yulka2980
          yulka2980 April 7 2014 07: 31
          +1
          If they don’t have a desire for Russia, then why are so many people risking their health and freedom going under our flags ?? I can’t agree with your point of view!
      2. svp67
        svp67 April 6 2014 15: 03
        +2
        Quote: Horde
        Russia needs to help create an organization, how pin_ dos help Bandera, then the process will go ...

        and who told you that this process does not go on and showing these photos do not forget to look and this ...
        This is Odessa

        This is Kharkov

        Dnepropetrovsk

        Николаев

        Kherson - listen, they speak RUSSIAN


        Where are you going to send our guys?
        1. lg41
          lg41 April 6 2014 15: 55
          +10
          The children are hoping for help in Donetsk, Lugansk, and Kharkov regions.
          That's for sure. And for your help and people like you hope the inhabitants of the United States, Europe and their leaders.
          1. Horde
            Horde April 6 2014 16: 57
            0
            Quote: lg41
            The children are hoping for help in Donetsk, Lugansk, and Kharkov regions.
            That's for sure. And for your help and people like you hope the inhabitants of the United States, Europe and their leaders.


            You are right. In general, a strange situation has arisen in this topic. The CPR67 cutter places Vidio Bandera marches on which the Russian population is called upon to exterminate it, such as through too much ...
    2. lg41
      lg41 April 6 2014 15: 46
      +10
      Do not show your blindness. Ukrainians of the East - for reunion with Russia. Do not combine them with the Gallicians.
    3. yulka2980
      yulka2980 April 7 2014 07: 28
      +1
      good I fully support!
  • vezunchik
    vezunchik April 6 2014 18: 35
    +4
    Usa spat on the public! Introduces troops where they wanted! And what are we ??
  • gunter_laux
    gunter_laux April 6 2014 11: 36
    +20
    Let my colleague disagree with you! Being Russian in Ukraine is not Russian in Russia! and by force, and especially with the use of force - this is obvious stupidity! For such "help" you can get a lot of confusion! hi
    1. lg41
      lg41 April 6 2014 15: 58
      -9
      Stupid will retreat further. It’s time to put the change of Moscow on the agenda
      1. thrower
        thrower April 6 2014 17: 30
        +11
        Ukraine, with its Maidan, made a good vaccination against all of our white petals.
      2. sv68
        sv68 April 6 2014 17: 38
        +6
        lg41-it’s not bad for you on the way to Moscow, will it happen by chance.?
      3. yulka2980
        yulka2980 April 7 2014 07: 41
        0
        Or maybe Kiev? This is closer to the truth
  • Ascetic
    Ascetic April 6 2014 13: 41
    +37
    Quote: Horde
    how is it that Russian people ask Putin to HELP US


    In Crimea, they really asked and begged, and Putin helped. In the South-East, the picture is slightly different. Going to Russia for now (for the masses) is too radical. To whom "my-hut-from-the-edge". Who is used to "sawing here". Those who have been brainwashed by 23 years of independence, "we ourselves are a country", "there is a dictatorship in Russia" and "and they live there no better than us," black people will sit on their necks, make children serve in hot spots. Yes, there are many doubts and hopes that everything will resolve by itself. And someone in general is a supporter of the Maidan (especially active youth). And in military terms, there will be no special operations of polite people and the background will be negative. This is not the background that Russia needs. We need the population to greet us with flowers, so that the people wait as deliverers.
    It is necessary, as in the Crimea, and not as in Iraq. Politely and without shooting, but not "the heroic defense of Kiev." The introduction of troops now would only support the junta morally, at the same time justifying the economic boom that is about to come. Russia needs the opposite: for the priest to come not because of the war with Russia, but by the hands of the junta. For the population of Ukraine to open their eyes. So that instead of "peremogi" (the joy of the victory of Maidan-2) there would come a period of "search for those responsible for peremoge" (massive disappointment in Maidan).

    It is necessary that in the mass consciousness evil did not come from the Kremlin but from the Kiev Junta,
    There are also economic and political reasons, in principle, we do not need the collapse of Ukraine and the loss of Kiev, ideally we need a union country, even with the separation of Bandera regions, but always with Kiev. Then the brown plague will recede into the background and in the future it will be possible to have a union state in the CU and CSTO.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker April 6 2014 14: 00
      +12
      Quote: Ascetic
      It is necessary that in the mass consciousness evil did not come from the Kremlin but from the Kiev Junta,
      There are also economic and political reasons, in principle, we do not need the collapse of Ukraine and the loss of Kiev, ideally we need a union country, even with the separation of Bandera regions, but always with Kiev.

      I agree to all 150%.
      Federalization is a temporary measure of the type of FER in the 20s of the last century.
    2. soaring
      soaring April 6 2014 14: 47
      +8
      Everything is correct! I completely agree with you, Ascetic !!! The South-East is trying to convey their understanding of the situation with a small number of people ... But there either they don't hear or don't care for most of the people ... And to send troops there is not a smart decision. Putin does everything right, he is in no hurry ... Let the "fruit" ripen by itself and we will remove it. Need time!
      Ascetic, you +++++++++ and 200% !!! drinks
    3. lg41
      lg41 April 6 2014 16: 03
      +8
      Activists in eastern Ukraine are knitted by employees of the SBU from Kiev along with employees of the CIA. They are very active. It is only necessary to act against them actively and professionally.
    4. Wheel
      Wheel April 7 2014 01: 04
      -1
      Quote: Ascetic
      in the future there will be an opportunity to have a union state in the CU and CSTO.

      A tricky question: what's the use of this "union" state, if by then it will be three times bankrupt?
    5. not main
      not main April 7 2014 02: 20
      0
      Quote: Ascetic
      Ascetic SU Yesterday, 13:41 ↑

      +100000 I wanted to say the same thing! But I’m not used to say it better that neither be concrete in ... hugs!
  • Kite
    Kite April 6 2014 14: 03
    +7
    Respected! Help is not asked from PUTIN. and you do not have everything. but only part of the local population, the rest of the cocktails bottled. Are you ready to shoot cocktails?
  • svp67
    svp67 April 6 2014 14: 17
    +7
    Quote: Horde
    how is it that Russian people ask Putin to HELP US and complete silence in response, WHY IS THIS PRESIDENT OF THE RUSSIAN COUNTRY NOT FOR RUSSIANS?

    Do not run ahead of the engine ... Everything is done ... Not as fast as you want, but all the main battles are still ahead ...
    1. Horde
      Horde April 6 2014 14: 49
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      Do not run ahead of the engine ... Everything is done ... Not as fast as you want, but all the main battles are still ahead ...


      WHAT DOES
      1. svp67
        svp67 April 6 2014 15: 26
        +4
        Quote: Horde
        WHAT DOES

        By the end of May we will see ... The first round of the struggle was clearly behind us ... which the West, in its arrogance, clearly did not expect. Now they are preparing more seriously, we are the same ... The main battles are yet to come ... And God forbid that they were bloodless ....
      2. Ascetic
        Ascetic April 6 2014 16: 23
        +12
        Quote: Horde
        WHAT DOES


        At least diplomatic work continues, including on the federalization of Ukraine and on the conduct of a constitutional referendum. This is the first step towards the broad autonomy of Novorossia. Which in the future, if the economic situation worsens and the central government is weak, will lead to its secession or joining the Russian Federation. This is only the visible tip of the iceberg. And what is actually planned can only be guessed at, because in Crimea no one knew anything either, even the Crimeans themselves and their leaders.
        Now the goal is maximum regional autonomy, economic independence, then local laws on language, monuments, holidays, etc. All this is the first step towards a future separation. It is necessary to achieve direct horizontal economic and political ties with Russia with minimal participation of Kiev. It is the Americans who carry democracy with bayonets, this is not our method. Historically, for Western civilizations, and not only the subjugation and killing of the enemy - VALUE. In Russian civilization, this is considered not valor but a FORCED SIN. This is the difference between our spiritual civilization and the wild merchant slave-owning west.
        1. Horde
          Horde April 6 2014 17: 48
          +2
          Quote: Ascetic
          at least diplomatic work continues, including on the federalization of Ukraine and on the conduct of a constitutional referendum. This is the first step towards the broad autonomy of Novorossia. Which in the future, if the economic situation worsens and the central government is weak, will lead to its secession or joining the Russian Federation.


          don’t you see that the power-militia in the localities of Kharkov, Odessa has already hardened? and that the protest Russian movement is simply strangled by the method of extermination of leaders? there is no movement in the direction of the referendum, the people ALREADY ARE SCARED by Bandera, therefore Putin must help his REALLY AND NOW, MONEY AND WEAPON, as the Americans did to help Bandera ...
  • svp67
    svp67 April 6 2014 14: 25
    +14
    Quote: Horde
    WHY IS THIS PRESIDENT OF THE RUSSIAN COUNTRY NOT FOR RUSSIANS?

    Yes, because in Ukraine there is a CIVIL confrontation, and along with those who ask Russia for protection, there are a lot of such ... Poroshenko's "beloved children" are ultras, these are the fans of Dynamo Kiev and Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk

    And now you are proposing to throw our guys in THEIR MEAT GRINDER? No, let them now HARVE the Maidan, simply GASK UP EUROPEAN FREEDOM, and then the time will come ...
    1. svp67
      svp67 April 6 2014 14: 31
      +1
      And here's another "Poroshenko's kids", this time from the fans of Metalist Kharkiv


      Look from where the PS "draws" its staff and all this is sponsored by POROSHENKO ... Who has questions now - WHO IS SPECIFICALLY to blame for this new "ruin" of Ukraine?
      1. svp67
        svp67 April 6 2014 14: 37
        +1
        Match Tavria (Simferopol) - Dynamo (Kiev)


        But this does not resemble anything?
        Dynamo (Kiev) - Shakhtar (Donetsk)


        And there are many such videos ...
        1. Horde
          Horde April 6 2014 14: 53
          +3
          Quote: svp67
          And there are a lot of such videos

          the more dough is thrown the more vidio, it's just ...
          1. svp67
            svp67 April 6 2014 15: 43
            +2
            Quote: Horde
            the more dough is thrown the more vidio, it's just ...

            Well then, we watch another video ... and then whose loot?
            Kherson

            Николаев

            Odessa

            Lugansk

            Donetsk
            1. Horde
              Horde April 6 2014 17: 01
              +5
              Quote: svp67
              Well then, we watch another video ... and then whose loot?

              Well, not American, no one finances our Russians, unlike Bandera ...
        2. Aptimist
          Aptimist April 6 2014 23: 49
          +2
          After reading the Ukrainian media, everything becomes clear and understandable -
          Yanukovych was an agent of Putin and wanted to destroy Ukraine, but he was overthrown by Putin’s agents from the right sector, who want to destroy Ukraine, and then Putin’s agents came to power - oligarchs and corrupt officials who want to destroy Ukraine, but Putin’s agents in the East rebelled against it, who want to destroy Ukraine but they were prevented by Putin’s agent Yulia Tymoshenko who wanted to destroy Ukraine.
      2. lg41
        lg41 April 6 2014 16: 08
        +5
        It pays and competently organizes not only Poroshenko.
    2. Horde
      Horde April 6 2014 14: 52
      +2
      Quote: svp67
      Yes, because in Ukraine there is a CIVIL confrontation, and along with those who ask Russia for protection, there are a lot of such ... "Favorite kids" Poroshenko, these are the fans of Dynamo Kiev and Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk


      "CIVIL CONFRONTATION"? and the fact that this "civil confrontation" goes for American money does not bother you? I congratulate you, citizen of the lie ...
      1. svp67
        svp67 April 6 2014 15: 45
        +11
        Quote: Horde
        "CIVIL CONFRONTATION"? and the fact that this "civil confrontation" goes for American money does not bother you? I congratulate you, citizen of the lie ...

        You, as a child, are really ... it’s just not interesting to argue with you anymore. And you didn’t think about why it was so suddenly so easy to buy so many people to bring to the Maidan?
        1. Horde
          Horde April 6 2014 17: 10
          0
          Quote: svp67
          You, as a child, are really ... it’s just not interesting to argue with you anymore.


          I think that you didn’t have such disputes either ... but it’s not interesting to you because you can’t prove anything either by bugs or about dill ...


          Quote: svp67
          And you didn’t think about why it was so suddenly so easy to buy so many people to bring to the Maidan?

          Of course I thought, it all depends on the completeness of the glass poured, if Putin also supported the Russians financially, as the Americans do, and even the correct camera angle, then it really becomes clear that it turns into a lot. This is called POLITICAL TECHNOLOGY ...
          1. IGS
            IGS April 6 2014 17: 32
            +5
            Those. Again, can I ... be to blame? What grandmas did not give? laughing Already not even a laugh. What do we want to buy the love of a corrupt girl? When we were washed with brains, we became wiser only when we had a sip, there was no one to ask. And now it means that we are blamed for the fact that we, not our parents, did not explain to Ukrainian children from an early age that fascism is bad. We didn’t have anything like that even in the worst years. Ukrainians will have to learn to do something on their own, and they themselves will be responsible for their actions, and not look for the one to blame.
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              1. IGS
                IGS April 6 2014 19: 00
                +4
                Is my army the army of Ukraine? belay Tie with psychedelics, protect your health.
          2. Aptimist
            Aptimist April 6 2014 23: 53
            0
            How is everything simple for you .... like 2 fingers on the asphalt !!!!
            But the question is, since you are such an advanced and well-worn watered technologist, why are you trolling on this site? Go .... to the Kremlin !!! do country policy. Around there are some stupid people !!!
        2. Turkir
          Turkir April 6 2014 17: 19
          +4
          Have you thought about it?
          You want to say that ordinary people spent the night on the Maidan? And they got hot food from their housemates? And trained fighters with chains and bottles of gasoline, are peasants from nearby gardens?
          Excuse me, are you keeping us all here for the weak-minded?
      2. IGS
        IGS April 6 2014 15: 55
        +17
        and the fact that this "civil confrontation" goes for American money does not bother you?
        It was necessary to think about this 15 years ago, when Russia had no time for Ukraine, it would have to survive on its own. It was then that this money played in the education of young people. Now, even without American money, there are enough of those who hate Russia. A whole generation of jumpers has grown up. Are you proposing to send our boys to slaughter? We have them for recount, EVERYONE. You propose to send your citizens to defend those and die for those who are not ready to do it for themselves. Where are their real actions? There are those who are sincerely for Russia, but this is not an overwhelming majority, as in Crimea. And if the majority, then why is it enough only for shouts: "help". Or this is the position, if something goes wrong, or we don’t give enough money, we can already shout: "Invaders!"
        And it’s time for you to learn to appreciate the country in which you live and your fellow citizens. A balabolit in the blood is not worth it. You can pack up and go create a partisan detachment there, if you think there’s a powder keg, then you’ll be the spark from which the flame cleansing of banderlogs will ignite.
        That's when they ripen, and they only ripen when there is nothing to eat (otherwise some Ukrainians work in Russia and still maidan), then we will help. We will help, but do not do for them. And now to enter there is to bleed two nations, to the delight of the west.
        1. svp67
          svp67 April 6 2014 16: 32
          +4
          Quote: IGS
          It was necessary to think about this about 15 years ago,
          I agree to 100%, I’ll only call the date 23 years ago ... Immediately after the collapse of the Union ...
          1. IGS
            IGS April 6 2014 16: 53
            +8
            We didn’t have it then, the brains themselves weren’t weakly washed, but when they drank with a full spoon, they became smarter. There was no one to ask for help. But such probros
            WHY IS THIS PRESIDENT OF THE RUSSIAN COUNTRY NOT FOR RUSSIANS?

            In context, why don't we send troops to Ukraine, they call ... And why not start thinking about the Russians, who are also your fellow citizens, and often just relatives and friends. Or they think "that women are still giving birth" ... but we will fulfill our "duty", but, I'm afraid, we may not hear "thanks" from the saved. Remember ourselves during the Emergency Committee, 1993 ... Ukrainians themselves will have to sip everything to the fullest and grow wiser.
            1. Horde
              Horde April 6 2014 17: 56
              -7
              Quote: IGS
              In context, why don't we send troops to Ukraine, they call ... And why not start thinking about the Russians, who are also your fellow citizens, and often just relatives and friends. Or they think "that women are still giving birth" ... but we will fulfill our "duty", but, I'm afraid, we may not hear "thanks" from the saved. Remember ourselves during the Emergency Committee, 1993 ... Ukrainians themselves will have to sip everything to the fullest and grow wiser.


              BALTUNE TRAITOR ...
              1. IGS
                IGS April 6 2014 18: 37
                +2
                Where are you now? Why is comrade the accuser not in Ukraine? With weapons, or with leaflets? Or is it better to pour someone else’s blood? And yours only from a finger in the analysis?
                PS We are waiting for a report from you with the forefront. And by the way, a traitor to whom? Such as Tsarev from the Yanukovych society? So it’s like I didn’t swear to them, just like the independent state of Ukraine.
                1. Horde
                  Horde April 6 2014 18: 55
                  -5
                  Quote: IGS
                  Or is it better to pour someone else’s blood?

                  people like you with pleasure ...
                  1. IGS
                    IGS April 6 2014 18: 57
                    +2
                    Here. here laughing and his only at the reception of a pretty nurse, and preferably two, so that the second stood ready .... with ammonia wassat
          2. Stanislas
            Stanislas April 6 2014 19: 25
            +2
            Quote: svp67
            Quote: IGS

            It was necessary to think about this about 15 years ago,

            I agree to 100%, I’ll only call the date 23 years ago ... Immediately after the collapse of the Union ...
            What is already there, then it is better even earlier - instead of the collapse of the Union, there was no one ...
        2. Horde
          Horde April 6 2014 17: 30
          -2
          Quote: IGS
          It was necessary to think about this about 15 years ago, when Russia was not up to Ukraine, it would have survived. It was then that this money played in the education of youth. Now without American money there are enough of those who hate Russia. A whole generation of jumpers has grown. You offers


          it will be worse from 20 mil Russians will make in a generation of 20 mil enemies of Russia in the first and second, but how can RUSSIANS NOT DROP THEIR OWN or you propose to quit7
          1. IGS
            IGS April 6 2014 17: 46
            +11
            When I see that they are fighting AS RUSSIANS, then we will talk. In the meantime, I see a girl who does not know where to attach herself, let her deal with herself. I do not yet see that in Ukraine they began to defend their rights without sparing their belly, but to send there the blood of their son instead of them, I have no desire, AND WILL NOT! I do not want my son to shed blood for those who will then shout in his back: "Accupant!" I see people like Tsarev, who is with Russia according to the principle: "The enemy of my enemy."
            PS I'm not talking about all Ukrainians, there are those who are sincerely on the side of Russia, but open your eyes, there are more of those who are "my house is on the edge."
            And if they make enemies out of 20 million, pouring in grandmothers, then they were not Russian, but were corrupt girls, compare the youth in Sevastopol with the youth in Lvov. Remember "Taras Bulba" and what the father and son did.
            1. Horde
              Horde April 6 2014 18: 12
              +2
              Quote: IGS
              That's when I see that they are fighting AS RUSSIAN, then we'll talk.

              Now there are such media that they simply can’t show it to you and you won’t know anything, but just grit your teeth ...
              1. IGS
                IGS April 6 2014 18: 27
                +7
                Believe me, I do not need, like many people here, to "show and tell", we ourselves are able to compose a general picture, taking data from different sources, critically evaluating other people's conclusions, making our own. In fact, there are very few people who sincerely want to join Russia. And basically these are people who remember the USSR, and it was they who sowed this crop, the West only helped to collect it. They sowed it when they shouted a quarter of a century ago: "Now we will live like the nobles, otherwise we have eaten all the bacon" and allowed us to raise our children THAT, the Americans only corrected it, again with the tacit consent of their parents. Now they have come to their senses, but the generation, brought up by them, has already entered into force.
                We will send troops, we will be acupants, and if blood is shed, then there will never be unity of one people, this is exactly what they want in the West.
    3. w2000
      w2000 April 6 2014 20: 53
      +1
      From the regular army, such kids will scatter in shabby pants. They can only throw fights at stadiums and can throw stones at unarmed policemen, but how can they turn the line on top of heads with the KPVT, they will blow them away like the wind.
    4. stoker
      stoker April 6 2014 21: 04
      +1
      [quote = Horde]
      Such plots should be shown on "RT" regularly (every hour or two), so that in Europe they feel what kind of guys they will soon show up. They will march in formation in Cannes (with bats), burn a couple of wrong Porsches. They confiscate a hundred other "geldings" from the Fritzes for the needs of the right sector. They will check in several Parisian banks whether all the cash is on the spot. In Monte Carlo they will ask for money on the Maidan. And in London they will knock down the doors in parliament and re-elect the speaker there.
      And these paintings, so that now Europeans are in the eyes.
      1. thrower
        thrower April 6 2014 21: 35
        +1
        Europe sleeps quietly, because these figures need to go through Poland, and the Poles seem to have pulled an army to the borders.
  • Homo
    Homo April 6 2014 17: 48
    +9
    I already wrote a comment on a similar question, I repeat:
    As I understand it, "WE" is Russia. And we must free the South-East. But I fundamentally disagree with this formulation of the question. The whole problem is that Crimea wants and does everything to change the situation, and the South-East only wants the situation to change. It's not enough to go to a rally, wave flags, shout slogans - you need to show by action what the people want and are doing everything to change the situation. It is necessary to follow the example of Crimea and the same "maydauns" - to occupy regional administrations, prosecutors, police, block military units, elect their governors, mayors, proclaim sovereignty, force the "maydauns" out of the region! And only then ask for help from Russia. Otherwise, you get an anecdote:
    I go out onto the balcony, post a poster "I want to live well"!
    I shout the wish "I want to spread red caviar on black"!
    Then I lay down on the sofa and wait for someone to realize all this for me!
    And a bit more. The term "weekend rallies" has appeared. Dissatisfaction, protest cannot be "from now until now." From Monday to Friday, they work, pay taxes (replenish the treasury), hold meetings on weekends, seize administrations, prosecutors, and the SBU. Then they remember that tomorrow is Monday (to go to work), they release everything captured and go to sleep. Over the night, the police and the SBU arrest all activists and the people next weekend go to the next rally demanding the release of those arrested. Then Monday comes and everything goes around!
    This is not how they protest, this is how they do not achieve change, this is how they portray activity in the hope that someone (Russia) will "lead" and rush to save the poor, suffering (on weekends) Russian-speakers!
    1. Horde
      Horde April 6 2014 18: 16
      -5
      Quote: Homo
      go-East only wants the situation to change. It’s not enough to go to a rally, wave flags, shout slogans - you need to show by action what the people want and do everything to change the situation.

      you are either an idealist or a disguised zapadentse that the process has begun it must be touched ie Russia should help with money and weapons, and it can also be an organization, and Putin is slowing down ...
      1. Mikros
        Mikros April 6 2014 21: 20
        +4
        Putin never lingers and never yells at all angles. He just does, and if this is not visible to anyone, then this is another plus for him.
        1. VOLCHOXURAL
          VOLCHOXURAL April 6 2014 21: 49
          +3
          Quote: Mikros
          Putin never lingers and never yells at all angles. He just does, and if this is not visible to anyone, then this is another plus for him.

          I think that this infuriates all the clowns in the West who are accustomed to screaming all kinds of urn from trebuns, and not from trebuns.
        2. Horde
          Horde April 6 2014 23: 21
          0
          Quote: Mikros
          Putin never lingers and never yells at all angles. He just does, and if this is not visible to anyone, then this is another plus for him.


          are you so familiar with Putin? But what is he doing? let's say corruption is when they use their official position for the sake of self-interest, for example, Taburetkin everyone knows that this is a thief enough to look at him once, but he was acquitted, maybe Putin does something wrong?
  • vezunchik
    vezunchik April 6 2014 18: 23
    +1

    man is right - watch the video
  • sleepy
    sleepy April 7 2014 03: 21
    +1
    From the Internet.

    "Leaders and participants of patriotic and public organizations of the South-East!

    Most of you, unfortunately, adopted the wrong tactics of fighting the junta, which seized power in Kiev, the center and the west of Ukraine. This mistake lies in the fact that the only ideological basis of the struggle in you is the assertion that a coup d'etat took place in Kiev, and a request to Russia to help defend itself against bandits.

    This approach is conceptually wrong and inevitably leads to failure, because it does not give Russia any legal basis for direct assistance to you, since it will be regarded, at a minimum, as interference in the internal affairs of Ukraine, and the maximum - as an intervention. Since the change of power, albeit unconstitutional, this is purely internal affairs of Ukraine. And let the people of Ukraine deal with this themselves.

    Your slogan “Russia, we want to be part of you” is ordinary separatism. You give the junta and its western masters every reason to use any tools to fight you as criminals, but for now, they have power and if you do not change anything, they will crush and destroy you. Tactics need to be changed and changed urgently.

    Why did this happen in the Crimea? Because Crimea created self-defense units, and in the Crimea there were already Russian troops, which are not and will not be in the Southeast. Russia has repeatedly said that it will be able to send troops only subject to ethnic cleansing, the proof of which takes time, which is not there. Or do you still want to wait for this?

    What needs to be changed so that Russia can help you ... "
    http://awas1952.livejournal.com/3255848.html
    1. VOLCHOXURAL
      VOLCHOXURAL April 7 2014 12: 03
      0
      That's right!
      Sergey, do repost.
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  • Stalker
    Stalker April 6 2014 11: 11
    +21
    The people of Ukraine to choose ....
    1. Horde
      Horde April 6 2014 13: 55
      +5
      In the Southeast, a slightly different picture.

      Ascetic painting SINGLE-SIGNED Russian in Novorosiya DONETSK, KHARKIV MOST SUPPRESSING, reunification of Russian with Russian NATURAL PROCESS, the rest from the crafty ...
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic April 6 2014 23: 04
        +1
        Quote: Horde
        Russian in Novorossia DONETSK, KHARKOV suppresses the majority, the reunification of Russian with Russian NATURAL PROCESS, the rest from the evil one ...


        Russians, yes, the majority, but pro-Russian Russians who consider Russia their big homeland. Judging by everything, there are not so many. Unlike Crimea, in the issue of reunification with Russia, "sausage interest" plays a greater role than spiritual and civilizational.
        1. Horde
          Horde April 6 2014 23: 24
          0
          Quote: Ascetic
          “sausage interest” plays a greater role than spiritual and civilizational.


          and what is it ? those. say Lugansk will enter Russia for sausage or what? strange politics ...
  • stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker April 6 2014 11: 15
    +10
    Quote: svp67
    There is a very strong conviction that Europe has decided to urgently "replace" Arab and African guest workers with immigrants from Ukraine ... I'm afraid that such opinions are not groundless ...

    It will not work, due to liberal laws ... And Romanians and Bulgarians will staunchly defend their rights to "be the first on the Euro-porch" for alms ...
    Bandera-Ukraine - amerovsky project - as a permanent "headache" for Russia, as a source of constant instability, as a territory of man-made disasters and the use of the territory as burial grounds of all kinds, "rendering assistance" in the exploration and production of shale gas in the territories adjacent to the Russian Federation (for " not free), as a place of constant interethnic "hot" conflicts (Ukrainian Karabakh) ...
    And the saddest thing is that the Euro (censorship) and Bandera Ukrainians agree to EVERYTHING this outrage. Moreover, they are tearing out the s / passage hole on the fascist swastika with shouts "Let it be bad for me and my neighbor from the east."
    1. lg41
      lg41 April 6 2014 16: 12
      +2
      As well as the territory of the new US military bases
  • pts-m
    pts-m April 6 2014 11: 16
    0
    dear why did you get it and send me a warning? I did not insult you and write adequately
  • nikolaev
    nikolaev April 6 2014 11: 46
    +2
    news-news. S. Rulev. Weekly review 5.04.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjCTc8WYnik
  • I do not care
    I do not care April 6 2014 11: 52
    +7
    Quote: svp67
    There is a very strong conviction that Europe has decided to urgently "replace" Arab and African guest workers with immigrants from Ukraine ... I'm afraid that such opinions are not groundless ...



    the competition will not be childish, someone will have to create a union laughing
  • infinite silence ...
    infinite silence ... April 6 2014 12: 55
    +1
    There is a very strong belief that Europe has decided to urgently "replace" Arab and African guest workers with immigrants from Ukraine ..


    Conviction turning into confidence.
    And the gardens and pigsties in the center of Kiev, on the Maidan, embody their wildest expectations about their ability to work.
  • INVESTOR
    INVESTOR April 6 2014 12: 59
    +11
    I spent the whole day on the censor before the ban !!! Record)))
    1. Alll1
      Alll1 April 6 2014 15: 27
      +3
      Yes, this is a record for my own psyche too! My congratulations (I’m counting for minutes). hi
    2. Demo
      Demo April 6 2014 18: 14
      +4
      and I’m still there))) well, I approached the problem a little creatively
      discussing the question of what Putin said that we will stand behind women and children ... I answered

      For Russians it’s the other way around, when they attack they leave their women behind them, and when they guard they stand behind them .. Of course I would like on the contrary so that when they attack they would stand behind women and children, but you’ll get it from the Russians)

      sorry, but I no longer see the means to reach them
  • svetlomor
    svetlomor April 6 2014 13: 19
    +2
    There is a very strong belief that Europe has decided to urgently "replace" Arab and African guest workers with immigrants from Ukraine ...
    They want to be slaves, let them be.
  • jktu66
    jktu66 April 6 2014 14: 51
    +1
    For the most part, Arab and African immigrants are not workers at all. They can still trade in drugs. In 2009, in the Spanish town of Las Palmas (Canaries), I saw children from Ukraine. On a large cactus flower bed 200 to 150 meters between the cacti, they trodden the paths-moves. In the cactus jungle, they slept in sleeping bags, during the day they worked part time in the port or on the plantations.
  • maks-101
    maks-101 April 6 2014 14: 51
    +3
    Arab and African migrant workers live on child allowances. and European citizens like the last suckers feed them and with their liberal laws fed, feed and will feed, because they are suckers. They also need Ukrainians as the next lahotron.
  • platitsyn70
    platitsyn70 April 6 2014 15: 34
    +2
    the labor force in Russia will fall in price, Ukrainians will compete with Uzbek migrant workers who work on the most unclaimed and unprofessional work (janitors, movers, etc.) a migrant worker in the EU receives about as much as a Ukrainian migrant worker in Kaluga 1200 rubles a day, an Uzbek migrant worker 900 rubles a day. The influx of labor from Ukraine will increase in the near future and see what happens.
  • Alekseev
    Alekseev April 6 2014 15: 58
    +9
    Quote: svp67
    There is a very strong belief that Europe has decided to urgently "replace" Arab and African guest workers with immigrants from Ukraine ...

    hi
    And my conviction is ripening that it is necessary to draw engineers, technicians and highly skilled workers from the South-East to Russia, creating decent living and working conditions for them.
    We will solve, at least partially, the problem of staff shortages in enterprises.
    But shabashniks of various kinds (as a rule, zapadentsev) under strict control, tax "good", let them benefit and the Russian Federation! yes
    1. svp67
      svp67 April 6 2014 19: 45
      +3
      hi
      Quote: Alekseev
      And my conviction is ripening that it is necessary to draw engineers, technicians and highly skilled workers from the South-East to Russia, creating decent living and working conditions for them.

      It would be absolutely wonderful, only now we can’t create normal conditions for everyone, but we’ll also bring strangers ... Although I would like, oh, how I would like ... Institute of Patton, Antonov Design Bureau, YuzhMash ... list then big.
      1. Alekseev
        Alekseev April 6 2014 21: 34
        +4
        All the good things in this world are going hard, but some kind of rubbish is obtained automatically! yes
        In the matter of the relocation of valuable personnel from Russia to Ukraine, an action program is needed.
        Create a law office for one that would buy housing from people who were planning to move to the Russian Federation.
        Then, the office would sell housing in Ukraine, and the money would go to provide specialist housing in the Russian Federation.
        People should have an invitation to come to a specific production, etc.
        You can get hold of sensible people! wink And people - it has always been fixed capital.
        1. svp67
          svp67 April 6 2014 23: 48
          0
          Sensibly. But how can our authorities be encouraged to do this? With such a "creak" everything goes only when the GDP accelerates, then ... it is of course. And so it’s not superfluous, it’s painfully "piece" specialists are there, we would not be in the way ...
  • VOLCHOXURAL
    VOLCHOXURAL April 6 2014 16: 06
    +2
    Quote: svp67
    There is a very strong conviction that Europe has decided to urgently "replace" Arab and African guest workers with immigrants from Ukraine ... I'm afraid that such opinions are not groundless ...

    Absolutely not deprived! yes Like in a box, not so long ago, I heard a similar idea from some kind of European pretzel!
  • katastrofa
    katastrofa April 6 2014 16: 49
    +10
    would not have torn !!!
  • platitsyn70
    platitsyn70 April 6 2014 16: 57
    +2
    The Ukrainian army decided to pay its salaries by handing over the metal equipment that was in storage.
    Planned activities are carried out by personnel of one of the bases of automotive equipment

    © RIA "Novosti"

    The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine announced the withdrawal of more than 900 units of military equipment from the reserve. The message is published on the official website of the military department.

    As explained by employees of the ministry, the personnel of one of the bases of the reserve of automotive equipment carries out planned activities. It is necessary to remove equipment from long-term storage by re-preservation, it is also necessary to test the starting of engines and check the operation of all weapons systems and units. The distance for the control run is up to 25 kilometers.

    “BMPs, caterpillar tractors, heavy truck tractors, trailers, mobile workshops for the repair of automotive vehicles, evacuation equipment, means for transporting personnel and transporting material resources, self-loading vehicles are delivered to military units and units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the established manner,” noted in the Ministry of Defense. The equipment is prepared to ensure the fulfillment of tasks for designation and combat use.

    Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych was removed from power in late February. The duties of the head of state are now performed by Alexander Turchinov.

    On April 6, it became known that the first battalion of the National Guard of Ukraine took the oath. The Verkhovna Rada voted for its creation on March 13, and it became a military formation in the system of the Ministry of Internal Affairs
  • a52333
    a52333 April 6 2014 17: 57
    +8
    Quote: svp67
    Europe has decided to urgently "replace" Arab and African guest workers with immigrants from Ukraine ...

    How stable are stereotypes !!!! I'm not even talking about you, but about us all ..
    I also caught myself thinking about this a couple of times. But, remember, about two months ago there was an article where there were selective p.p. association agreement?
    So: there is no clause on visa-free entry !!!! Not! And will not be, they have unemployment up to 40%. Well, if you feed, then yours.

    Removal of the ban on the import of secondhand, the requirement to "bring energy tariffs to the European level, reduction of pensions - there is.

    And there is no visa-free, it's Svidomo WANT see this item there, but it is not there and WILL NOT. Polish and Lithuanian prostitutes and plumbers are already abundant there. There is half of Spain without work. Who needs them there? No.
    1. bubalik
      bubalik April 6 2014 18: 06
      +5
      a52333 RU  Today, 17: 57 ↑
      there is no visa-free visa, it is Svidomo WANT this item there to see, but it is not there and WILL NOT. Polish and Lithuanian prostitutes and plumbers are already abundant there.


      ,,, I agree with you on 100% ,,, who needs them, there are enough of them ,,,
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  • waisson
    waisson April 6 2014 18: 30
    +2
    Europe seems to need Ukrainian cheap labor -Japanese version does not suit them
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  • nikolaev
    nikolaev April 7 2014 01: 50
    +2
    37
    Kiev: up to 100 "golden eagles" captured the regional police department
    Date: April 7, 2014. News section
    http://www.russiapost.su/archives/21444
    1. sleepy
      sleepy April 7 2014 03: 36
      +1
      From the Internet.

      "... What needs to be changed so that Russia can help you:

      - Refuse the naive demand of joining Russia!
      This will remove the charge against you from the junta — the wording “separatism”.

      - Replace the main slogan with the following:
      Ukraine was subjected to external aggression by the US and the EU,
      who sponsor militants and support them diplomatically.
      There is enough evidence for this, and Russia has it, including
      .

      - You need to show the world community that you understand that Ukraine became another victim of US and EU aggressionand you stand for her release
      and not for the actual split of the country. The very formulation of an act of external aggression
      through irregular parts makes it possible to rely on UN conventions.

      You must talk about liberation from the invaders!
      And not parts of Ukraine, but the whole territory!

      Otherwise, you again from the legal point of view become separatists.

      - Replace the flags of Russia with the flags of Ukraine or any other Social movement! A change of symbol changes the logic of processes and rebuilds the brains of people. People will begin to understand that the war has begun, and this is another Patriotic War, then the genetics of Russians and Ukrainians will resonate (which is basically the same thing). A wave will go to the center of Ukraine.

      - It is necessary to burn the flags of the US and the EU, like the occupiers ... "
      http://awas1952.livejournal.com/3255848.html
  • nikolaev
    nikolaev April 7 2014 03: 37
    0
    37
    LIGHTNING! Urgent appeal of Ekaterina Gubareva!
    7/04/2014 2ч33мин
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg5sUCTgJpw
  • kayman4
    kayman4 April 7 2014 08: 51
    +1
    Yes, the point is not in gastrobayters - it’s petty, but in the transfer of production capacities to countries of the 3rd world where cheap labor of 10 (if not more) will be received by less than 1 German citizen in such a production and this is without taking into account social packages. At the same time, the main profit from these enterprises goes to the treasury of the country of manufacture, and to the homeland. There, in order to reduce income taxes, he invests in various secondary businesses, social programs - which allows CITIZENS to live quite decently even without much straining.
  • psychologist
    psychologist April 6 2014 10: 08
    +5
    everything has been done to achieve this result !! have worked their money 100%!
    1. Very old
      Very old April 6 2014 10: 59
      +3
      No Hamit, not all
      Go to Feudalism!
      And then somehow stayed up in the Stone Age
      1. Turkir
        Turkir April 6 2014 17: 28
        +3
        Sorry, thanks to you I remembered a joke:
        After defeating Spartak, Mark Crassus walks up to the crucified but still alive Spartak and says: “Well, have you played enough?”
        Spartacus raises his head, looks Crassus in the face and says firmly: - Long live Feudalism, the bright future of all mankind.
        Straight slogan for Ukraine.
  • Same lech
    Same lech April 6 2014 10: 10
    +16
    The pathetic billionaire who throws the USA to the YATSENYUK government as a sweet bone is a mockery of the people of UKRAINE ... hehe heh most of these printed pieces of paper will go to fellow support for democracy in Ukraine in general clowning is better than imaginable.

    Having cut off the branch (industry) on which the state is still holding UKRAINE will turn into a banana republic .... and we will witness the sufferings of ordinary citizens of UKRAINE who will flood into RUSSIA and the WEST in an even greater amount AS GASTRASTERS - THIS IS THE RESULTS OF THE MAIDAN.
    1. Setrac
      Setrac April 6 2014 14: 10
      +3
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      The pathetic billionaire who throws the USA to the YATSENYUK government as a sweet bone is a mockery of the people of UKRAINE

      The people of Ukraine have nothing to do with it, it’s a bribe to a specific functionary.
    2. Stanislas
      Stanislas April 6 2014 19: 43
      0
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      we will witness the sufferings of ordinary citizens of UKRAINE who rush to RUSSIA and the WEST in even greater numbers AS GASTRASTERS - THIS IS THE RESULTS OF THE MAIDAN.
      If you just sit and watch, then Russian Ukrainians will rush into Russia, and the rest will be used as enemies of Russia, why should they be allowed to the West en masse. In this capacity, nmv, they are more needed by the West. Although, of course, there is a demographic problem in Europe, it will be decided by the regional committee, and the regional committee "tse ne Europe".
      1. sleepy
        sleepy April 7 2014 03: 44
        +2
        F.M.Dostoevsky: “One very special word about the Slavs ...”

        “I want to say one very special word about the Slavs, which I have long wanted to say. Russia will never have, and never has had, haters, envious people, slanderers, and even obvious enemies, like all these Slavic tribes, as soon as Russia liberates them, and Europe agrees to recognize them liberated! And let them not object to me, do not dispute, do not shout at me that I am exaggerating and that I am a hater of the Slavs! ..
        ... They will certainly begin with the fact that inside themselves, if not directly out loud, they will declare to themselves and convince themselves that they are not obliged to Russia with the slightest gratitude, on the contrary, that they could hardly escape from the power of Russia during the conclusion of the peace by the intervention of a European concert if Europe didn’t intervene, Russia, having taken them away from the Turks, would have swallowed them at once, “having in mind the expansion of borders and the foundation of the great All-Slavic empire in the enslavement of the Slavs by a greedy, cunning and barbaric Great Russian tribe”.
        For a long time, oh, for a long time they will not be able to recognize the disinterestedness of Russia and the great, holy, unprecedented in the world raising its banner of the greatest idea, of those ideas that a person lives and without which humanity, if these ideas cease to live in it, becomes stiff cripples and dies in ulcers and in impotence ...
        ... It will be especially pleasant for the liberated Slavs to express and trumpet to the whole world that they are educated tribes capable of the highest European culture, while Russia is a barbaric country, a gloomy northern colossus, not even pure Slavic blood, a persecutor and hater of European civilization ... ".
        F.M. Dostoevsky
        PSS in 30 volumes, PUBLICISM AND LETTERS. VOLUME XVIII-XXX, DIARY OF THE WRITER, November 1877, Volume 26, Chapter II, THE MOST LAKEIC CASE WHICH ONLY MAY BE, paragraph III.
        1. yulka2980
          yulka2980 April 7 2014 08: 40
          +1
          Yeah! Nothing really has changed since then. request
  • serega.fedotov
    serega.fedotov April 6 2014 10: 15
    +12
    Do not rush! In Ukraine, everything is just beginning!
    1. Renat
      Renat April 6 2014 10: 33
      +5
      Yeah, stock up on beer and fish. All the most interesting ahead.
  • Mainbeam
    Mainbeam April 6 2014 10: 17
    +9
    The social infrastructure inherited from the Ukrainian SSR cannot be kept on tax deductions from privatized enterprises

    This is a general rule not only for "small" Ukraine
  • Sharky
    Sharky April 6 2014 10: 18
    +14
    That's right! I dare to add that everything will go further according to the pattern of the Baltic countries (former republics of the USSR). The collapse of production, the migration of the laborious population to work in the Western EU countries. The purchase by foreign companies of everything else that can be milked ... Such a template has long been developed and has been successfully applied more than once.
    1. jktu66
      jktu66 April 6 2014 15: 08
      +3
      Lithuania looks kind of deserted. Life is felt in cities where many Russians live. The most active are earning in developed countries. In Russian banks, some are forced to open accounts for transferring salaries so as not to pay huge taxes in Lithuania.
  • mabuta
    mabuta April 6 2014 10: 19
    +19
    The theory of absolute freedom leads to chaos. At the moment, chaos is out of the control of puppeteers.
  • Giant thought
    Giant thought April 6 2014 10: 19
    +8
    This process is already in full swing. A little more and it will become irreversible. If the trends remain the same, then soon some pan-chieftain Ataman Grytsian of Tauride will again begin to draw his money, and so everywhere throughout Ukraine. This will, of course, not tomorrow, but at the speed of destruction of industry and the agro-industrial complex of Ukraine, which is gaining thanks to the mediocre pseudo-leaders of today's Ukraine, this is already looming in the near future. In general, in Ukraine there is continuous degradation, which is in the minds of part of civil society, and in the sphere of material production.
  • Name
    Name April 6 2014 10: 22
    +12
    Now feudalism no longer smells ...rather a slave system, well, in the role of SLAVES, IT IS UNDERSTOOD WHO:

    Ukraine is waiting for a concrete answer from partners. belay Yatsenyuk reminded that Ukraine is a member of the Energy Charter and has undertaken to implement the third energy package of the European Union fool .

    “For this there are all the conditions and opportunities to radically change, liberalize and Europeanize the market for the supply of natural gas in Europe as a whole, and this should start with Ukraine.
    [/ Color see http://ria.ru/world/20140405/1002649579.html#ixzz2y5IHoOkq
  • NIVH
    NIVH April 6 2014 10: 22
    +26
    For example, many probably remember the "chicken of tobacco" from Bulgaria, consumer goods from Hungary - they supplied the entire socialist camp. And now? It got to the point that Bulgaria buys bell peppers from Holland ... So choose ...
    1. The comment was deleted.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker April 6 2014 11: 05
        +17
        Quote: thrower
        like Slynchev Bryag and stewardess and opal.

        - Will you be a flight attendant?
        - Nope ... I have Opal ... wassat
      2. polly
        polly April 6 2014 12: 07
        +10
        And also brandy "Pliska" Bulgarian ... sad
  • svp67
    svp67 April 6 2014 10: 29
    +6
    _________________


    1. Curculum
      Curculum April 6 2014 11: 17
      +6
      svp67, hello and thanks for the video! Personally, I was struck by the revelations of the "Maidan doctors": in the age of telecommunication technologies - such blindness and ignorance, and the conclusion they made is on the verge of insanity. Is it really necessary to see blood and experience pain in order to understand anything?
      1. svp67
        svp67 April 6 2014 11: 33
        +8
        Quote: Kurkul
        Is it really necessary to see blood and experience pain in order to understand something?

        Alas, for many, understanding comes only this way ...
  • mamont5
    mamont5 April 6 2014 10: 29
    +18
    "Europe and the USA moved their production to China, India, Latin America."
    In addition to Germany, which allows her not only to make ends meet, but also to pull the entire European cart on itself. Breaking into the Ukrainian turmoil, Germany hoped to ease its burden by introducing new sales markets (the United States had completely different plans), but what happened now ... Germany will no longer be able to export. As O. Henry says, "Bolivar will not take two away." And it was not two riders who climbed into Germany, but the entire European Union. And everything is complicated by the fact that the bridle and the whip are in the hands of the American cowboy. Isn't it time for Germany to think about its future fate and throw off the extra riders, and above all the insolent cowboy?
  • cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 April 6 2014 10: 31
    +3
    We urgently need to help with money and specialists and turn this process 100 degrees. For this, we have everything. drinks
    1. svp67
      svp67 April 6 2014 11: 33
      +17
      Quote: cerbuk6155
      We urgently need to help with money and specialists and this process is turned 100 degrees.

      Maybe 180? And then 100, as in Ukrainian - not for yourself, not for people ...
  • alex47russ
    alex47russ April 6 2014 10: 32
    +5
    I think that at the moment Ukraine is doomed! With such a DULL AND MEGA IDIOT manual she digs her own grave !!! And the Americans and the EU then bury it !!!
  • Matvey
    Matvey April 6 2014 10: 35
    +8
    The Ukrainian people, especially in the central regions, continue to bide their time, saying "my house is on the edge" ... when "euromaibut" touches everyone, there will be a new revolution, only with more blood, because this power will be fought off by all available means.
  • Renat
    Renat April 6 2014 10: 38
    +22
    Our EU response ...
    1. wasjasibirjac
      wasjasibirjac April 6 2014 13: 55
      +3
      people! Explain why the laws for protecting children from homosexual propaganda are, according to Europe, homophobic, i.e. afraid of people. in what is at least straitjacket manifested?
      1. Alll1
        Alll1 April 6 2014 15: 30
        +3
        Article 17, paragraph 4 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation.
      2. Stanislas
        Stanislas April 6 2014 20: 27
        +1
        Quote: wasjasibirjac
        homophobic, i.e. afraid of people
        Here the first part of the word "homosexual" means not a person (lat. Homo), and equal, the same (Greek. ὁμός). Although, you are right, the term is incorrect. If you sculpt this way, then "pedophobe" will mean not afraid of pedophiles, but just afraid of children.
    2. Michael_59
      Michael_59 April 6 2014 19: 27
      +2
      Quote: Renat
      Our EU response ...


      Why use convict terminology? How did the cockerel, the golden scallop, the character from the children's books - be guilty?
      If our rules, so to the end ...
  • Zomanus
    Zomanus April 6 2014 10: 38
    +4
    Yes, and let it go. Ukraine wanted an independent European life, so let it get it. It is clear that ordinary citizens are not to blame. They just attended. Well, except for those with pots and sympathizers. And so, in fact, Ukraine will simply scatter into neighboring countries. Well, at least it will be easier to manage.
    1. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov April 6 2014 11: 07
      +8
      Quote: Zomanus
      It is clear that ordinary citizens are not to blame.

      I used to think so too. Now I don’t think so!
      When all this turbidity began in Ukraine, there were about 1 morons on the Maidan. Even when they began to burn tires and block state buildings, they all just turned around the temple!
      How many of them were there in total? 3 (?) 5 thousand? Hardly more! 3,5 thousand "ordinary citizens" could not gather there?
      Do not think that "ordinary citizens" can do nothing! These thoughts are imposed on us by the enemies, they themselves are not deceived and are betting on "ordinary people!"
  • hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh April 6 2014 10: 40
    +5
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    The pathetic billionaire who throws the USA to the YATSENYUK government as a sweet bone is a mockery of the people of UKRAINE ...

    Ukrainians should go to the US Embassy with posters: "We want more money", "Where is the money, Zin?", "Not enough!", "Why should we buy lard in chocolate?"
  • stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker April 6 2014 10: 41
    +5
    Ukraine does not collapse as a result of chaos and war, Ukraine is falling apart in order to create chaos instead of order and state and reduce social relations to a simplified (neo-feudal) model.

    Ukraine is on the verge of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth during the wars of the Polish magnates - the presence in the country of tycoon-tycoons with a fraudulent but toothless government, the presence on the territory of numerous armed detachments under their own "ensigns" and ideas ...
    The consequences of TOY war was the return of the Little Russian people to the deserted lands of central Ukraine.
    Today there is no "free" land, there is nowhere to escape from the arbitrariness of the newly-born Vishnevets and Ostrovsky. And the criminalized "power structures", invested with the power of the junta, are trying not to let this issue "take its course."
    The finale will be "European Guatemala" with its infamous "death squads".
    "The air of freedom of the Maidan" was poisoned by the ideas of pseudo-independence ...
    1. thrower
      thrower April 6 2014 10: 52
      +6
      There is a difference - the oligarchs have divided the territory, now they will begin to shoot independent field commanders. And then - "Hello, slave-owning republic !!!"
  • MirVlad
    MirVlad April 6 2014 10: 42
    +7
    And Yatsenyuk's words that it is necessary to prepare for the termination of gas supplies ... Does he think about the fact that the cost of goods that he is going to supply to the European Union will grow many times over and even with duty-free trade will not withstand competition with Europe and practically export will end. We are all now watching HOW the USA is building its empire everywhere ... "an exceptional nation"! Anyone who wants to preserve their identity and cultural roots must remember this!
    1. thrower
      thrower April 6 2014 10: 53
      +11
      Yatsenyuk does not have such a task as raising Ukraine from its knees, but there is a task to pump out everything that is possible from the population, sell land and flee to London.
  • 120352
    120352 April 6 2014 10: 47
    +42
    Since the collapse of the USSR, Ukraine has slowly but surely moved not towards federalization, but towards feudalization. Every year I visit (?) In Ukraine, mainly in the village. Mother-in-law lives there. She is under 90. People are in a state of primitive dependence not on the state, law, but on a physically stronger neighbor. To take something from the weak is the norm. About 2 years ago, during my absence, a neighbor took and moved his fence to the mother-in-law’s territory not 2 meters. Where should she, the old woman, mind him ?!
    At first I tried to just talk to him. In response, there was a drunken shout and swearing words about the M.S.K.A.L.E., who deprived HIM of everything. They called me the "Leningrad blockade", it only betrayed me confidence and pride.
    And the man is Russian by origin, he is over 70. He comes from near Rostov. He didn't beat his face, the old man didn’t. I went to Selrada. There, the local mayor is not just my friend, but the person whom I help from time to time with computers and TV, that is, a person who is dependent on me. For "Ukrainians" the feeling of personal dependence is a stimulus for activity. We drank some brandy (h.o.kh.l.y, they don’t live to be sober at all). In the evening, an extremely polite neighbor (apparently visited the mayor), almost sober, and three "lads" from 18 to 50 years old, probably a son and grandchildren, very polite, moved the fence back. The neighbor is the very courtesy! He gave me a bucket of pears, a bucket of apples, and a quarter of moonshine with two greasy glasses. I drank with him and wished not to be bullied anymore. He repeatedly obsequiously apologized with a bow and promised that he would not. Apparently understood, on whose side the power.
    While people will try to steal something from each other and live at the expense of others, having their own rudeness as the only argument for this, nothing good awaits them, nor those around them. Everything acquired in an unrighteous way does not give good, but sows evil. Regarding who did it.
    And today in Kiev, the redistribution of property by the hands of "slaves" is taking place: someone is being taken away from someone again. Someone has a plant, someone has a homeland and everyone has CONSCIENCE!
    1. delfinN
      delfinN April 6 2014 11: 06
      +9
      As always with you: vitally, intelligibly, the essence is revealed.
      1. 120352
        120352 April 6 2014 12: 30
        +3
        Thanks Dolphin!
    2. stasimar
      stasimar April 6 2014 20: 36
      +3
      would read and read. can you try yourself in the literature.?
      1. Rurikovich
        Rurikovich April 6 2014 22: 08
        +5
        Quote: stasimar
        would read and read. can you try yourself in the literature.?

        Brother, here if you make a fuss about the comments, especially regarding politics and recent events, you can not only develop comprehensively, but also tear your belly out of laughter. Fortunately, the public is mostly adequate (of course, within the framework of the site) and they think quite as if thinking. There are individuals who call black white or vice versa, but these completely confirm the rule that a family has its black sheep drinks
  • LIS 25
    LIS 25 April 6 2014 10: 49
    +2
    it goes to 1664.
  • zzz
    zzz April 6 2014 10: 51
    +8
    Miners for the USSR.
  • mabuta
    mabuta April 6 2014 10: 56
    +13
    For the West, Ukraine is the line beyond which it will hurt.
    1. sleepy
      sleepy April 7 2014 03: 53
      +1
      The leadership of Ukraine will pacify the eastern regions with the help of a private military company.

      International panorama March 25, 2:10; update date: March 25, 2:30 UTC + 4

      "Foreign mercenaries from Greystone Limited will perform the functions of
      political investigation ", - says the interlocutor of ITAR-TASS.
      http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1071989

      And this can be seen as an intervention.

      "- It is necessary to apply to the FSB of Russia with a request to investigate the facts
      the presence of Polish special forces in Lviv, English - in Chernihiv under the guise of
      English teachers, and American - in Kirovograd,
      as well as the presence of American PMCs - this is the evidence base of the military invasion of regular military units of the West in Ukraine.

      - It is necessary to turn to Russia for help NOT to enter its composition,
      and for help in repelling external aggression by the US and the EU
      ,
      and the liberation of Ukraine from occupation! ..".
      http://awas1952.livejournal.com/3255848.html
  • Humpty
    Humpty April 6 2014 10: 59
    +22
    Feudalism generally implies at least some order.
    1. dimdimich71
      dimdimich71 April 6 2014 12: 40
      +4
      Tymoshenko and Klitschko resemble
  • kvnvolga2008
    kvnvolga2008 April 6 2014 11: 01
    +10
    Sorry for the Ukrainian people. The "helm" is still the same gang!
  • Vyacheslav73
    Vyacheslav73 April 6 2014 11: 04
    +4
    Quote: alex47russ
    I think that at the moment Ukraine is doomed! With such a DULL AND MEGA IDIOT manual she digs her own grave !!! And the Americans and the EU then bury it !!!


    Nah, now they’ll live with the fascist government, after a while they will figure out what's what and throw it off ... then they will come to us and we will reconcile as always! Well and then we will live together happily ever after ... (and economically mutually beneficial wink ) And all because we are Slavs and nobody managed to break us ... Well, the west of Ukraine (all scum) will need to be punished well !!!, but ... Ukrainians themselves must do it ...
  • patriot123
    patriot123 April 6 2014 11: 04
    +5
    is becoming a country of slaves and laborers !!
  • delfinN
    delfinN April 6 2014 11: 08
    +28
    Quote: Horde
    how is it that Russian people ask Putin to HELP US and complete silence in response, WHY IS THIS PRESIDENT OF THE RUSSIAN COUNTRY NOT FOR RUSSIANS?
    1. svp67
      svp67 April 6 2014 11: 37
      +2
      In principle, it is understandable, but not clear why the answer is against the background of the banner of "Makhno's anarchoarmy", now usurped by the PS?
  • 111 soldier
    111 soldier April 6 2014 11: 10
    +12
    they were given a chance !! such a country received as a gift after the collapse of the USSR !! almost all of Europe could envy !! and now what ?? people are almost slaves, the leadership is puppets!
    1. 120352
      120352 April 6 2014 12: 41
      +3
      Soldier
      So Europe envied. And the result of this envy you have indicated correctly.
  • konvalval
    konvalval April 6 2014 11: 16
    +7
    There is no limit to the indignation that bandit authorities of all levels in Ukraine are doing. Today is April 6th. Where are these Southeast Self-Defense Forces that set the authorities on April 5th? Banditry continues. There is no gleam.
    1. muhomor
      muhomor April 6 2014 13: 07
      +2
      Self-defense forces of the southeast are betrayed and defeated the day before yesterday. 15 people were arrested, 300 assault rifles seized.
      1. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
        Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. April 6 2014 15: 01
        +4
        What kind of self-defense forces, if they are so easily "made"? Especially if they actually had 300 machines!
  • zzz
    zzz April 6 2014 11: 19
    +5
    The construction of feudal Ukraine: what has been done for six months:
    1. yulka2980
      yulka2980 April 7 2014 08: 55
      +1
      To be honest, it’s the animals that are the most pitiful! People choose their own destiny, and these poor people not only sit in a cage, they also starve to death! If they can’t take care of zoos, then they’ll give or sell to other menageries crying
  • Anton Gavrilov
    Anton Gavrilov April 6 2014 11: 19
    +2
    Only after the loss of Crimea, the loss of confidence in the southeast, after they turned Russia against themselves, after a bloody seizure of power, they realized that the economic association with the EU would collapse for the Ukrainian economy - the same thing that Yanukovych understood without all this.
    1. jktu66
      jktu66 April 6 2014 15: 21
      +2
      Yes, they still do not understand, or rather most of them. They will understand. A little bit later...
      1. sleepy
        sleepy April 7 2014 04: 01
        0
        From the Internet.

        "Ukraine has undergone a cunningly thought-out and prepared intervention,
        the calculation was only a provocation of Russia to invade.
        So to speak, "the parasites before their death stuck with fierce force" - the Americans and the British, now the EU are representatives of parasitic civilizations, such economic lice, in Altai "mangys", their time is now passing, for them Ukraine is the last battle. In Ukraine, part of the population belongs to parasites, and the mangys relied on them. The provocation failed.
        The junta was designed for a short time, they do not know what to do and how to live
        in peacetime, without the threat of intrusion, they were not programmed
        this is why hysteria is being instilled among the population of Ukraine.

        As a result, this machine of killing and suppression is looking for an enemy, not finding an external blow will go to the "internal enemy" according to their concepts. Anyone who opposes the junta becomes an informational target and not only an informational one, which is fraught.
        Be more cunning and restrained, do not get fooled by low-order provocations
        and do not act by their methods. Below is a new action plan:
        Legal Action Plan http://awas1952.livejournal.com/3255848.html
  • delfinN
    delfinN April 6 2014 11: 20
    +2
    And here, by the way, about mobilization:
    1. I read the news
      I read the news April 6 2014 11: 49
      +2
      What do you want? This is the army. There must be "hardships and hardships".
      1. starhina01
        starhina01 April 6 2014 13: 27
        +4
        Quote: I readNews
        What do you want? This is the army. There must be "hardships and hardships".

        they are not heavily burdened by the hardships of service, the point is different, that gradually the awareness of deception on the part of the authorities who played on patriotism comes and as a result they are kept like dogs on a leash (and the leash is an article for desertion) so no one else needs them, in general ... and as they consider, instead of directing the leadership in an organized manner by a crowd around the neck to nab or get specific answers from certain people, they themselves put it this way hi
      2. Setrac
        Setrac April 6 2014 14: 16
        +3
        Quote: I readNews
        What do you want? This is the army. There must be "hardships and hardships".

        In wartime or in training. In peacetime - please provide the military with human conditions.
      3. Blink185
        Blink185 April 6 2014 14: 31
        +2
        They should not be meaningless.
  • Twilight
    Twilight April 6 2014 11: 21
    +1
    Vyacheslav73
    Nah, now they’ll live with the fascist government, after a while they will figure out what's what and throw it off ... then they will come to us and we will reconcile as always! Well and then we will live together happily ever after ... (and economically mutually beneficial
    We will make peace, happily ever after - and you just think how much later it will cost us after today's tear of everything and everything !!!
  • Stinger
    Stinger April 6 2014 11: 24
    +3
    Construction of feudal Ukraine: what has been done in six months

    We managed everything. As they said under the old regime: "Bypassing the stage of capitalism"
  • delfinN
    delfinN April 6 2014 11: 26
    +29
    Ukraine would have such a President, would have long lived in paradise. But the Russians have such, so in spite of slavery I will surrender to the murderers of my grandfathers.
  • Dimy4
    Dimy4 April 6 2014 11: 44
    +9
    We at the enterprise also contributed to the collapse of industry in Ukraine, we wanted to order a lot of new KrAZ trucks to the quarry, but in connection with the latest events we scratched our heads and came to the conclusion, and where, and most importantly, how much, in which case we will take spare parts. So we stopped at three-axle MAZs. Even though these are three little KrAZ trucks, but how many of us are these? But it’s a pity, that’s the car for the quarry
    1. I read the news
      I read the news April 6 2014 11: 51
      +3
      Six had to be taken - for cannibalism.
      1. svp67
        svp67 April 6 2014 12: 08
        0
        Quote: I readNews
        Six had to be taken - for cannibalism.

        Would Ukraine have put them or the SS would have "intercepted"?
      2. Dimy4
        Dimy4 April 6 2014 12: 49
        +2
        The toad would strangle a new car for analysis.
        1. I read the news
          I read the news April 6 2014 13: 28
          +1
          Kiss to buy cheaper than in parts.
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  • siberalt
    siberalt April 6 2014 11: 53
    +6
    Domaydanilis, damn it! And now: - "Putin, save!" It's too late to save. We brewed it ourselves, and disentangle it ourselves. One medicine is to drink to the bottom of the thicket of poverty and humiliation. And there will be federalization. But through complete collapse, through the Middle Ages.
  • x.andvlad
    x.andvlad April 6 2014 12: 01
    +7
    Construction of feudal Ukraine: what has been done in six months
    All! Now you can go to Europe - to earn money.
  • individual
    individual April 6 2014 12: 06
    +7
    Ukrainian politicians called for the Holodomor so much that they did not notice how they themselves created a complete "paragraph" of the state and would wait for humanitarian aid to the starving.
    It is easy to destroy industry and agriculture; it is impossible to create in a society of vandals and professional laborers in power.
  • PDE
    PDE April 6 2014 12: 19
    +2
    if only he would not spread to us.
    1. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
      Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. April 6 2014 15: 05
      +3
      Well, for this case, I personally have a favorite Saiga-12K and a bunch of cartridges with buckshot.
  • Arkan
    Arkan April 6 2014 12: 20
    +4
    Ukraine does not collapse as a result of chaos and war, Ukraine is falling apart in order to create chaos instead of order and state and reduce social relations to a simplified (neo-feudal) model.


    Pans and slaves again, the dense Middle Ages! Through nationalism, they tear them from common, Russian roots, make plants, tumbleweeds from the inhabitants of this territory, with their own hands.
    1. 120352
      120352 April 6 2014 13: 00
      +2
      One gets the impression that strategic thinking (well, at least with a perspective for a couple of years) is not typical of these guys. It's like being in a family. The elder brother is smart, and the younger ... However, read Ershov, "The Little Humpbacked Horse"
  • delfinN
    delfinN April 6 2014 12: 21
    +7
    We have a cinematic fun here, so now torn between Ukraine and the telecom
  • morpogr
    morpogr April 6 2014 12: 25
    +8
    The construction of the colony is in full swing. Even the supervisors were brought in from the PMC so that the colonized would work properly and not rebel.
    1. waisson
      waisson April 6 2014 18: 38
      0
      ------------- hi
  • Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov April 6 2014 12: 33
    +3
    the formation of mini-armies, a kind of new Landsknecht detachments, is in full swing.

    This is the purpose of this whole project of the West! A sort of "ghoul-field" in a new format on the Russian border. To rob to go to Russia and to lie down in Ukraine .. And be sure they will not spare money for such units ..! Ukraine does not need an army and the West no longer hides this, and especially the military-industrial complex (which has almost ceased to exist) ..
  • mig31
    mig31 April 6 2014 12: 37
    +1
    Somewhere, not tans Pereyaslovskaya glad ...
  • Kosanovskaya74
    Kosanovskaya74 April 6 2014 12: 50
    +6
    The entire Ukrainian elite must be completely eliminated visually, together with their relatives. The South-East should go to Russia, and let Galicia live as it wants and forbid immigrants from the western regions to come to work in Russia. Let those who are currently working there deport from Russia they work at home economically, and their enterprises do not have their problems in western Ukraine.
  • crambol
    crambol April 6 2014 12: 56
    +10
    But it’s interesting - why are they all puffing? Wouldn’t they give a damn to everyone? Not good!
    1. vezunchik
      vezunchik April 6 2014 13: 15
      +3
      chimpanzee in kind !!!
      1. Blink185
        Blink185 April 6 2014 14: 33
        +3
        Chimpanzee and his friend - Yaytsenyuh
      2. waisson
        waisson April 6 2014 18: 41
        +2
        the first is a gorilla and they are macaques --- kaki-kaki laughing
        1. Ruswolf
          Ruswolf April 6 2014 22: 38
          0
          There is a much deeper question!
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