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Experts: Without Russia, Americans simply will not be able to fly into space

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The legendary cosmonaut Georgy Grechko and the head of the department of the Space Research Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences Yuri Zaitsev in an interview with RT expressed the opinion that the collapse of the US cooperation with Russia in the space field would hurt the Americans themselves, and flights to the ISS without Russia would be completely impossible.






“Russia will not suffer at all from these sanctions, the Americans themselves will suffer. They propose to stop purchasing RD-180 engines from us, but Americans need these engines, but for us this is not so much money. Previously, they stated that they could create such an engine in 2-3 of the year, then in 5-6 years, now in 9-10 years, but even that is unlikely. If, after all, they start producing these engines, it will cost them 2-3 times as much as buying from us, ”said Yuri Zaitsev.


The expert also added that in the conditions of the NASA financial crisis, such statements look utopian.


“NASA doesn’t have much money, they refused to participate in the ExoMars program together with Europeans for financial reasons. And the Europeans immediately invited us. Now this program is in full swing, and this is the most interesting program for the next few years, ”explained the specialist of the Space Research Institute.


“To stop cooperation with Russia on the ISS is almost impossible. ISS need more Americans and Europeans than us. As a matter of fact, we have no cooperation with the Americans, we have, rather, cooperation with the Europeans, ”the expert concluded.


Cosmonaut Georgy Grechko expressed the opinion that the will of the political leadership of the country, and not the national interests of the United States, plays a decisive role in NASA statements. “This decision was not made by NASA. They submitted to the political leadership. Usually, politics spoils the scientific and technical programs. This is a big loss for everyone working in space, ”the astronaut expressed regret.


Commenting on the refusal to purchase Russian engines, the cosmonaut remarked: “They buy engines from us because they are the best and most inexpensive. I think they will leave everything that is beneficial to them. ” Georgy Grechko also added that the work of the United States in space without Russia is impossible. “Americans can't fly without us. Their old ship is already out of order, the new one is not ready yet, ”said the astronaut.


Recall, on the eve of the message appeared that the United States suspend cooperation with Russia in the space area with the exception of the project of the International Space Station. According to NASA, this decision was made in connection with the actions of Russia in relation to Ukraine.

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http://russian.rt.com/article/26355
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  1. kasper
    kasper April 3 2014 21: 21
    +12
    In general, it is not clear what they think, we see the cosmos is now entirely ours)
    1. svetlomor
      svetlomor April 3 2014 21: 28
      +23
      we see the cosmos is now entirely ours)
      NASA has ceased all contacts except the ISS, and there is nowhere to go.
      1. avdkrd
        avdkrd April 3 2014 22: 55
        +26
        After all, no one bothers us to say that all contacts are everything. No ISS, nor any engines for Atlases - let them fly on a broomstick, well, or on the core ...
        1. Scandinavian
          Scandinavian April 4 2014 07: 18
          +1
          avdkrd (1) SU Yesterday, 22: 55 ↑ New

          After all, no one bothers us to say that all contacts are everything. No ISS, nor any engines for Atlases - let them fly on a broomstick, well, or on the core ...


          Munchausen flew to the moon to the moon, and now the Americans are now learning ... the main thing is cheap ...
      2. Penzyac
        Penzyac April 4 2014 00: 06
        +3
        Quote: svetlomor
        we see the cosmos is now entirely ours)
        NASA has ceased all contacts except the ISS, and there is nowhere to go.


        Can we put an ultimatum for the Americans - either everything or nothing? They can’t launch anything other than relatively small satellites without us, let them sit on Mother Earth, as they did in the 50s of the last century, let them think for several years.
      3. apollo
        apollo April 4 2014 01: 08
        +6
        Today I read that McDonald’s is closing in Crimea ... I’m glad to endlessly, I would fuck them everywhere in Russia, if I want to let them poison my people ... so that in Crimea queues will decrease for gastroenterologists
        1. mamont5
          mamont5 April 4 2014 04: 35
          0
          Quote: apollo
          Today I read that McDonald’s is closing in Crimea ... I’m glad to endlessly, I would fuck them everywhere in Russia, if I want to let them poison my people ... so that in Crimea queues will decrease for gastroenterologists


          Yeah, read it too. In the comments on the news of gratitude that finally Crimeans will eat healthier food.
          "Due to production reasons, independent of McDonald's, the activities of the institutions located in Simferopol, Sevastopol and Yalta have been temporarily suspended. We hope that we can resume their work as soon as such an opportunity arises," company website. "
          http://www.vz.ru/news/2014/4/3/680432.html
    2. domokl
      domokl April 3 2014 21: 29
      +3
      What, than ... By what they are sitting on ... The decision has already been made, so now only the Russians will work on the ISS again, unless of course we need it ...
      1. serega.fedotov
        serega.fedotov April 3 2014 21: 34
        +4
        The ISS is regularly "lifted", usually by cargo ships, part of the station is American, that is, the amers need to break off cooperation with Russia to undock their module!
        1. family tree
          family tree April 3 2014 22: 37
          +40
          Quote: serega.fedotov
          The ISS is regularly "lifted", usually by cargo ships, part of the station is American, that is, the amers need to break off cooperation with Russia to undock their module!

          What for undock? There is now one American, he will hold a referendum in his module, and according to its results, the American module will be part of the Russian, along with the population drinks laughing
          1. svp67
            svp67 April 3 2014 23: 34
            +2
            Quote: perepilka
            There is now one American, he will hold a referendum in his module, and according to its results, the American module will be part of the Russian, along with the population

            good
        2. Penzyac
          Penzyac April 4 2014 00: 11
          0
          Quote: serega.fedotov
          The ISS is regularly "lifted", usually by cargo ships, part of the station is American, that is, the amers need to break off cooperation with Russia to undock their module!


          And what? Undock and drown in the Pacific? And, interestingly, how to undock and drown? They have nothing to do with it. wassat
        3. Containers
          Containers April 4 2014 01: 03
          +8
          Most of all, the American who is now on the ISS is afraid of a sharp break in relations with Russia.
          1. andrei332809
            andrei332809 April 4 2014 05: 02
            0
            Quote: Kosha
            Most of all, the American who is now on the ISS is afraid of a sharp break in relations with Russia.

            if he does not give up Amov citizenship, to his gateway, to the gateway. no spacesuit repeat
          2. pvn53
            pvn53 April 4 2014 12: 00
            0
            Will return to the USA on the way and say thanks to his freaks in the White House
          3. pvn53
            pvn53 April 4 2014 12: 00
            0
            Will return to the USA on the way and say thanks to his freaks in the White House
        4. apollo
          apollo April 4 2014 01: 11
          0
          I propose to undock their module from the ISS, let them take it away :)
          1. dimdimich71
            dimdimich71 April 4 2014 04: 56
            +2
            let the American astronauts let out spite the conductor, go ,, - on foot
      2. Saburo
        Saburo April 3 2014 21: 46
        +3
        Read the article carefully. Or the news.

        The United States is not going to neglect the Russian "Soyuz" because of the Crimea. Sanctions are different. Some items on the list: NASA has banned its employees from visiting Russia, communicating with colleagues by e-mail and holding teleconferences with Russian partners, as well as meeting with them at international events.

        But at the same time, the agency especially emphasizes: Russians should be ignored on all issues except cooperation in the field of joint work on the ISS. The Americans will continue to fly on Russian ships, but, for example, important negotiations on joint exploration of the moon will probably be suspended.
        1. serega.fedotov
          serega.fedotov April 3 2014 22: 08
          +4
          Quote: Saburo
          Read the article carefully. Or the news.

          The United States is not going to neglect the Russian "Soyuz" because of the Crimea. Sanctions are different. Some items on the list: NASA has banned its employees from visiting Russia, communicating with colleagues by e-mail and holding teleconferences with Russian partners, as well as meeting with them at international events.

          But at the same time, the agency especially emphasizes: Russians should be ignored on all issues except cooperation in the field of joint work on the ISS. The Americans will continue to fly on Russian ships, but, for example, important negotiations on joint exploration of the moon will probably be suspended.

          So I’m talking about this! They stop cooperation so much so that they don’t really have to stop anything! AGAIN SANCTIONS against Russia!
          1. Gregazov
            Gregazov April 4 2014 00: 35
            0
            There was a film like I AM NOT AFRAID WITH YOU. In the film there was a song with the words "So that life would go on a new way, leaving everything as before. Something like this.
        2. avg
          avg April 3 2014 22: 30
          +9
          Quote: Saburo
          But at the same time, the agency especially emphasizes: Russians should be ignored on all issues except cooperation in the field of joint work on the ISS

          Nafig, nafig, died, so died. request
          1. thimble
            thimble April 3 2014 23: 42
            +3
            There is nothing to carry, let them walk on foot. Ukrainians out in the tank train, and let the Americans in a comic style.
        3. Penzyac
          Penzyac April 4 2014 00: 25
          0
          Quote: Saburo
          Read the article carefully. Or the news.

          ...
          But at the same time, the agency especially emphasizes: Russians should be ignored on all issues except cooperation in the field of joint work on the ISS. The Americans will continue to fly on Russian ships, but, for example, important negotiations on joint exploration of the moon will probably be suspended.


          And why, besides the ISS, what a whim? They do not want to cooperate, and even dare to put forward conditions - this is arrogance and rudeness. And are they going to fly to the moon on Chinese fireworks? They have no suitable engines yet. Probably how Galileo Galilei will look into the telescopes of the moon, but write memoirs on the topic: - once we were on the moon ...
      3. Penzyac
        Penzyac April 4 2014 00: 08
        0
        Quote: domokl
        What, than ... By what they are sitting on ... The decision has already been made, so now only the Russians will work on the ISS again, unless of course we need it ...


        And we will invite the Chinese to the ISS instead of the Chinese Americans, especially since this is not free ...
      4. raf
        raf April 4 2014 07: 35
        0
        Quote: domokl
        The decision has already been made, so only the Russians will work on the ISS again, unless of course we need it ...

        Firstly, the Americans said that they were stopping cooperation in the space industry everywhere, EXCEPT the ISS! Read carefully! Secondly, yesterday a domestic specialist in the space industry spoke on the Russia 24 channel, unfortunately I do not remember the name, so he said that the existence of the ISS is not possible without participation of the USA or Russia! That is, if one of the parties leaves the project, then the station will come "kirdyk"!
    3. Interface
      Interface April 3 2014 21: 35
      +3
      They propose to stop buying RD-180 engines from us, but the Americans need these engines, and for us it is not such a lot of money.


      It's time for hundreds of bottles of Coca-Cola, shake before drinking - "Houston flight is normal!"
    4. platitsyn70
      platitsyn70 April 3 2014 21: 37
      0
      write in my pot US policy called
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    6. Stalker
      Stalker April 3 2014 21: 42
      +12
      In general, it is not clear what they think, we see the cosmos is now entirely ours)

      Old habits do not give rest to a sick head ... fool
      1. raf
        raf April 4 2014 08: 00
        0

        Interestingly, if we continue the logical chain further, it turns out that the source of wisdom is stupidity !? wassat
    7. schizophrenic
      schizophrenic April 3 2014 21: 56
      +1
      Something strange is happening with the mattresses, the tomahawks stop buying, NASA decided to save on space. Where America is heading. Rather than invented something better or stolen money hands burn. whatNASA wants to put all the eggs in one basket and see what happens.
    8. 120352
      120352 April 3 2014 22: 06
      +11
      No, no, no! Sanctions are sanctions! Including the ISS. Do not want to cooperate with us? Fly whatever you want. And if you want to fly with us, cancel all sanctions. ALL!!! Then apologize many times (it will take three or three years, I think), and then we will raise the issue of lifting your sanctions from us for a popular referendum. And then how it goes.
      Your sanctions for us - oh, how useful! You look, not only resource, but also what other economy will appear in our country. And then everything was somehow lazy ...
    9. Ivan Petrovich
      Ivan Petrovich April 3 2014 22: 56
      +3
      did you introduce yourself as a darth vader?
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      2. Aryan
        Aryan April 3 2014 23: 23
        +2
        do not want to fly with us, let them fly for themselves! bully
      3. Penzyac
        Penzyac April 4 2014 00: 30
        +2
        Quote: Ivan Petrovich
        did you introduce yourself as a darth vader?


        There is always a Skywalker for every Darth Vader ... wassat
    10. w2000
      w2000 April 4 2014 00: 13
      -7
      I do not see any reason for joy. NASA, unlike Russia, practiced the latest technologies at the ISS, while our cosmonauts flew mainly for the image. Domestic space technology has degraded below the level of the 60s and no prospects are visible. Prosrali all Soviet achievements. Our astronauts work on antediluvian equipment, and live, in contrast to the same Americans, in disgusting living conditions.
      Read the unsightly truth that astronauts themselves say about the state of our astronautics and how they bomb on the ISS http://www.kp.ru/daily/26061/2970462/
      1. Containers
        Containers April 4 2014 01: 06
        +4
        Yes Yes. After all, the true face of Russian cosmonautics is shown in the film "Armageddon". Earflaps, balalaikas, vodka. Repair of systems - with the help of a crowbar and some kind of mother.
        1. svetlomor
          svetlomor April 4 2014 01: 20
          +1
          Ear flaps, balalaika, vodka. System repair - using scrap and some kind of mother.
          And everything works wonderfully.
          1. BYV
            BYV April 4 2014 03: 49
            +2
            On the way to space exploration, our paths diverged. We went the way of disposable ships, and they - the way of disposable astronauts laughing
      2. w2000
        w2000 April 4 2014 07: 43
        -2
        Hamsters cheered. You then read the article by reference before the conditioned reflex works.
  2. Monk
    Monk April 3 2014 21: 21
    +1
    There are no wings, fly laughing
    1. domokl
      domokl April 3 2014 21: 30
      +2
      Quote: Monk
      There are no wings, fly laughing

      Huh ... And as a child, I read about a frog-traveler ... They will probably now persuade the French to bring them to the ISS lol
      1. Aljavad
        Aljavad April 3 2014 22: 31
        +2
        will persuade the French to fail


        And there’s nothing on the Franks either! They only have a truck! laughing

        In general, today it is not a problem for any serious and rich country (group of countries) to push a "barrel" with a load into orbit. And then the "subtleties" begin, accessible to a narrow circle of the elite: us, in the past - the states and more recently - the PRC. And docking, and life support systems, etc. not yet available to Japan, Europe or US private traders. At least for now. And the Chinese will have to persuade them to give them a ride (in which case)! wassat
        1. Wheel
          Wheel April 3 2014 23: 27
          +1
          Quote: Aljavad
          And the Chinese will have to persuade a ride (in which case)!

          The Chinese cannot dock to the ISS - systems are incompatible.
          On the plus side, the ISS orbit is such that the Chinese will need to sweat specifically in order to gently enter the dock.
          1. postman
            postman April 4 2014 01: 19
            +1
            Quote: Wheel
            systems are incompatible.

            compatible
            Quote: Wheel
            Plus, the ISS orbit is

            Jiuquan
            Its conditional geographical center has coordinates: 41 deg. 3 min. N and 100 deg. 0 min. east
            So for the "estimation", compare with Baikonur
            Coordinates: 45 ° 57′58 ″ s. w. 63 ° 18′28 ″ c. d. / 45.96611 ° s. w. 63.30778 ° c. d. /
            SPECIFICALLY, THE CHINESE WILL NOT HAVE TO DRINK
    2. Penzyac
      Penzyac April 4 2014 00: 32
      0
      Quote: Monk
      There are no wings, fly laughing


      And Bush’s legs don’t fly ... laughing
  3. hrych
    hrych April 3 2014 21: 24
    +3
    Buckwheat, like a true fisherman showed NASA a very big .. er.
  4. Name
    Name April 3 2014 21: 26
    +1
    Without Russia not only Americans no one can fly into space.
    1. Saburo
      Saburo April 3 2014 21: 37
      +2
      But what about the Chinese comrades? They fly quite successfully on an upgraded copy of the Soyuz.
      1. jjj
        jjj April 3 2014 21: 48
        +1
        Chinese comrades flew
      2. Penzyac
        Penzyac April 4 2014 00: 36
        +1
        Quote: Saburo
        But what about the Chinese comrades? They fly quite successfully on an upgraded copy of the Soyuz.


        Not "Union", but also Gagarin's "East" hi
  5. Saburo
    Saburo April 3 2014 21: 27
    0
    So the Americans do not need anything from us except "Soyuz". In fact, nothing will change.
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac April 4 2014 00: 39
      0
      Quote: Saburo
      So the Americans do not need anything from us except "Soyuz". In fact, nothing will change.


      So, probably, the narrow-minded Obama thinks ... Well, let him think, for now ...
  6. Crazyzyear
    Crazyzyear April 3 2014 21: 27
    +5
    For the sake of a joke, you need to leave the Americans on the ISS, see at least how many will fly after him ... am
    1. Dmitry Donskoy
      Dmitry Donskoy April 3 2014 22: 49
      +1
      That's for sure! Pretend to be a hose and say that because of their sanctions we have no money for new media. Let their cosmonauts then sit on the ISS until the third coming.
      1. spech
        spech April 4 2014 07: 07
        0
        entrance ruble, exit 10 laughing
  7. konvalval
    konvalval April 3 2014 21: 27
    +3
    Here are the miracles, the attic was completely demolished by the Abama. They fly on our equipment and refuse to cooperate with Roscosmos. Probably fly to the moon in a balloon.
    1. Dmitry Donskoy
      Dmitry Donskoy April 3 2014 22: 52
      +2
      No, not on the ball, but on the airship, the nemchuru masters to build them will help the barn.
      1. Penzyac
        Penzyac April 4 2014 00: 42
        0
        Quote: Dmitry Donskoy
        No, not on the ball, but on the airship, the nemchuru masters to build them will help the barn.


        No, on a box of Chinese firecrackers - spectacularly, but not predictably ... laughing
    2. Gronsky
      Gronsky April 3 2014 23: 22
      +4
      This is an area of ​​cooperation in which Russia is not a sin to demonstrate exemplary integrity. To rest against the horn and all, do not want to cooperate and do not. We will not sell engines, we will not carry. Mudakov must be taught, dunk in his own shit, like kittens. Ato settled the raw country, the raw country. Fly on brooms, narcissistic cretins! am
      1. Raven1972
        Raven1972 April 3 2014 23: 49
        +2
        Quote: Gronsky
        Fly on brooms, narcissistic cretins! am

        And may Harry Potter help them .... hi laughing laughing laughing
  8. fly fishing
    fly fishing April 3 2014 21: 28
    +4
    Born to crawl, cannot fly laughing Pride drives you crazy wassat
  9. dr.star75
    dr.star75 April 3 2014 21: 29
    +3
    Severe American sanctions: we stop cooperation where it was not, but continue where it was!
  10. kelevra
    kelevra April 3 2014 21: 31
    +1
    It’s very interesting, only at the expense of Russia is the entire space program of the whole world held up, and here is such a feint. In my opinion, NASA themselves did not understand what they had issued!
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac April 4 2014 00: 44
      0
      Quote: kelevra
      It’s very interesting, only at the expense of Russia is the entire space program of the whole world held up, and here is such a feint. In my opinion, NASA themselves did not understand what they had issued!


      How farted into the water ... laughing
  11. Crazyzyear
    Crazyzyear April 3 2014 21: 31
    +14
    Come on, not everything is so bad with mattresses, they also have shuttles ... they’ll remove them from pedestals and museums, they will paint them, they will pour fuel and send them to study space laughing
  12. nika407
    nika407 April 3 2014 21: 34
    +4
    It is necessary in the form of a mirror measure to curtail cooperation in the field of the ISS. And then graciously agree to deliver their astronauts in exchange for other programs that they refused.
    1. spech
      spech April 4 2014 07: 12
      0
      or just raise the price of delivery of the body to the ISS, but by how much and by as much as you like)
  13. ankh-andrej
    ankh-andrej April 3 2014 21: 40
    0
    Ours will not go to the refusal to deliver the Americans to the ISS, just as they did not refuse to transfer cargo for troops in Afghanistan through our territory when curtailing cooperation with Russia.
  14. Valter1364
    Valter1364 April 3 2014 21: 40
    +1
    They reminded me of their sanctions anecdote.
    Two Bandera members meet, and one says to the other: "Let's go beat me up!" To which the other replies: "And if they beat us?", "Huh! And what for us !?"
  15. Mercenary
    Mercenary April 3 2014 21: 40
    +2
    And we, what are they looking at holy fools? Where are our adequate sanctions?
  16. Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 April 3 2014 21: 43
    +4
    I liked the position voiced by Pushkov on the threat of expelling us from PACE:
    "In this case, we consider it necessary to prevent the matter from voting for the deprivation of the Russian delegation's powers. If we see that the matter is going to such a vote, the Russian delegation itself will leave PACE even before it is held," he added.
    I think this is what we need to do in everything, not allowing us to be spanked selectively, leaving "fat pieces". If NASA restricts relations with us - to limit our side, send them away and not take them to the ISS. Let Richard Branson deliver them on his wunderwaves)))))
  17. Delink
    Delink April 3 2014 21: 48
    +3
    It is necessary to cancel the contracts for the delivery of astronauts for this sanction, to raise the payment bar by 2 times for the delivery of amers to the ISS.
  18. Shesternyack
    Shesternyack April 3 2014 21: 52
    +5
    Americans learned that Darth Vader would soon become president of Ukraine and decided to cooperate with this space superpower over space.
    1. gfs84
      gfs84 April 3 2014 22: 11
      +2
      Well, if they really counted on:

      Americans learned that Darth Vader would soon become president of Ukraine and decided to cooperate with this space superpower over space.


      That maydanut they again failed:

      Central Election Commission (CEC) on Thursday at its meeting refused First Deputy Head of the Internet Party of Ukraine Darth Vader in the registration as a presidential candidate. The corresponding decision was made in connection with the falsification of some data provided by the candidate to the CEC, as well as on the basis of other irregularities in the submission of documents. “It might have seemed like an innocent joke. But someone paid 2,5 million hryvnias for this joke. Someone who benefits turn the presidential election of Ukraine into a farce. It is also worth taking into account the special attention of some Russian media to this story, ”leads RBC-Ukraine CEC representative Igor Zhidenko.


      http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2444513

      You see, in order not to turn the elections into a Farce (and now it seems that they have become extremely serious), but to tell the truth is weak - we knock out the most promising candidates)))))
    2. Penzyac
      Penzyac April 4 2014 00: 51
      0
      Quote: Shesternyack
      Americans learned that Darth Vader would soon become president of Ukraine and decided to cooperate with this space superpower over space.


      And then there’s such a bummer - the Ukrainian CEC didn’t allow Darth Vader before the elections. He will have to invite Superman, Spider-Man and Iron Man from Hollywood ... wassat
  19. Arh
    Arh April 3 2014 21: 55
    +1
    Russia is time to develop, time says !!! ***
  20. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich April 3 2014 21: 57
    +2
    What? They will sit on Earth, smoke for several years. They will think about where they made a mistake. And crawl on their knees. Space is technology and the development of science. Even ours has reached 20 years of devastation. And then there are the needs of the RF Armed Forces. And then they said: we will sanction you, except for flights to the ISS. No, drink brandy like that, have a queen like that. Sanctions, then, in all directions and not selectively. And the way children are small: "Only you do not dismiss me from the apartment - you never know what ..."
  21. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S April 3 2014 22: 11
    +1
    There shouldn’t be any half-hearted decisions, Russia didn’t offer to stop cooperation, so the Americans are sure that Russia can do well in space exploration. And Russia has nothing to fawn on amers, nothing to persuade for cooperation, Russia can do without Americans, let them try to fly without us in the pavilions of Hollywood.
  22. Stinger
    Stinger April 3 2014 22: 17
    +4
    It is necessary with each announcement of sanctions to silently raise the price by two for the delivery of astronauts to the ISS with the wording "in connection with new financial circumstances that have opened up."
  23. Des10
    Des10 April 3 2014 22: 19
    +1
    I put the article a minus, because before that the Americans were somehow calm in space and without us.
    And about engines, etc. - today in the news on RTR, the specialist explained very normally that they purchased the engines for 2 years, and in short term In the future, there will already be more than one spacecraft. Atlas (with our engines) can be replaced with another rocket.
    I do not say the names of the projects, I can be mistaken. Here.
    Loses only cooperation.
    1. lewerlin53rus
      lewerlin53rus April 3 2014 22: 33
      +8
      This specialist is very careful in evaluations and voiced the fact that we do not need to relax much. But, in any case, the proven technologies and many years of experience in operating Soyuz-type ships cannot be so easily pushed even by the latest American developments. These developments must also be tested and brought to the reliability that Russian ships have. We all remember how many shuttles were lost by the Americans along with the crews. Well, for now, like this:
    2. Wheel
      Wheel April 4 2014 00: 08
      0
      Quote: Des10
      Atlas (with our engines) can be replaced with another rocket.

      Yes, of course you can.
      With one small "but".
      - you need to either reanimate a similar carrier from previously used ones, or develop the first step to the Atlas on other engines, which, a priori,
      have less efficiency.
      The Yankees love their phpag, and so, in their arms and a tram towards them ... lol
      Let them dare.
    3. Penzyac
      Penzyac April 4 2014 00: 57
      0
      Quote: Des10
      I put the article a minus, because before that the Americans were somehow calm in space and without us.
      And about engines, etc. - today in the news on RTR, the specialist explained very normally that they purchased the engines for 2 years, and in short term In the future, there will already be more than one spacecraft. Atlas (with our engines) can be replaced with another rocket.
      I do not say the names of the projects, I can be mistaken. Here.
      Loses only cooperation.


      Moreover, it makes sense to refuse them with the delivery of astronauts to the ISS, we will return it with the ISS, and even there on a broomstick.
      1. Des10
        Des10 April 4 2014 06: 29
        0
        The interview was with corresponding member of the Tsiolkovsky Russian Academy of Cosmonautics Yuri Karash.
        There is no reason not to earn $ 70 million on launch (and return) laughing !) of their astronauts.
        And they have a space exploration program is and is being implemented - we just don’t know about it.
        Refusal to cooperate on the ISS will respond more strongly to us in the end, here, and indeed, it is better to be friends.
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  24. Siberian19
    Siberian19 April 3 2014 22: 25
    +5
    Amerov launch vehicle! laughing
  25. internatio
    internatio April 3 2014 22: 26
    +1
    Let them sit on the ground. There is nothing to spy on us from our ISS. And then another destroyer was sent to us in the Black Sea. Surely - with a "peacekeeping" mission.
  26. Bosk
    Bosk April 3 2014 22: 28
    +3
    Then I thought ... but after all, all the greatest achievements of the Union in space were achieved without any kind of cooperation, and this cooperation at least half resembled a "bazaar", but do we need it?, After all, there were some goals before, but how did it go this commerce ...
  27. 1goose3
    1goose3 April 3 2014 22: 30
    +2
    The United States suspends cooperation with Russia in the space field with the exception of the International Space Station project.

    Somehow they are very cunningly stopping cooperation. Here I want, here I do not want. Their decision must be made unequivocally, let them fly to the ISS for joint operation, but for the rest, including delivery, cooperation ceases. The Americans are denied tickets to our ships.
  28. starhina01
    starhina01 April 3 2014 22: 34
    +1
    Americans can’t fly into space without Russia what don’t worry, our dear partners, we are always ready to help you with free humanitarian aid, in any quantity, in perfect quality, by nuclear intercontinental missiles for free laughing soldier
  29. stillrat
    stillrat April 3 2014 22: 36
    +1
    You do what you want, but I don’t believe that Americans are like that. Surely you’ve conceived some kind of muck.
  30. Ivan Petrovich
    Ivan Petrovich April 3 2014 23: 08
    0
    space is now entirely ours)
    introduced themselves as a darth vader? [/ quote]
  31. ALEKS419
    ALEKS419 April 3 2014 23: 19
    +1
    Quote: stillrat
    You do what you want, but I don’t believe that Americans are like that. Surely you’ve conceived some kind of muck.
    I also hold the same opinion. In order to cut the ends, the Americans probably thought of the retreat.
    If, after a couple of months, they turn on the back. Here we can say that they have not gone far from Tymoshenko. (I mean threats to RUSSIA)
    You can read the posts with irony for a long time smiling to yourself. Lord, our economy is not so strong, that would pull the reins in costly directions, this is space and the military technical direction, etc.
    The state will be forced to tighten the nuts. So soon there will be no time for smiles. Someone may not have enough patriotism
    So we will be full of favorable changes in the country. wink
  32. svp67
    svp67 April 3 2014 23: 38
    +3
    [quote = Ivan Petrovich] space is now entirely ours)
    introduced themselves as a darth vader? [/ quote] [/ quote]
    No - TOP GYROM
  33. Pyckaya-dubina
    Pyckaya-dubina April 3 2014 23: 51
    +2
    Naively believe that the Americans really need our space. According to official NASA data, in a couple of years they will commission 4 fundamentally new rocket carriers, as well as the RD engines that they have already purchased from us for their missiles enough for them for 2 years. So that’s why they calmly severed space contacts with us. They only need flights to the ISS so far, since they have their own programs. Without their money that they give to the ISS, our ones alone will not pull its service. Recently, we did not really develop space programs, but only more served others. We urgently need to make a political decision and develop our space, only then we will not lose space. And if not, then in a couple of years the Yankees will go far from us, and by the fact that China will catch up with us, it’s only sleeping and seeing how to enter into an equal partnership with us and to lower everything we need and then refuse joint programs ... you understand what I mean ....
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac April 4 2014 01: 07
      +3
      Quote: Pyckaya-Dubina
      Naively believe that the Americans really need our space. According to NASA official data, in a couple of years they will commission 4 fundamentally new rocket carriers, as well as the RD engines that they have already purchased from us for their missiles, they will last for 2 years ...


      What, there, they will have, when and what will be enough for how much - all of this the grandmother said for two, you will not fly on the drawings and mock-ups and how much will ultimately cost ...
      Remind me how the amers deal with the F-35. and this is far from a shuttle ...
      By the way, about money, instead of their astronauts, you can carry rich tourists to the ISS - the same thing happens, but there is less hemorrhoids.
  34. Afinogen
    Afinogen April 3 2014 23: 55
    +1
    The Americans have a desire to bite Russia, but there is no way.
  35. DimDimych
    DimDimych April 4 2014 00: 02
    +5
    "Russia will not suffer from these sanctions at all, the Americans themselves will suffer."
    smile
  36. petrT
    petrT April 4 2014 00: 07
    0
    Quote: svetlomor
    we see the cosmos is now entirely ours)
    NASA has ceased all contacts except the ISS, and there is nowhere to go.

    And even if they don’t cooperate in the space industry, it means we’ll fly to the Moon ourselves, and we’ll take Mars to our hands, then we’ll bite our elbows. move to africa, we can’t let them in.
  37. Bkmz
    Bkmz April 4 2014 00: 08
    0
    I already wrote once that it is absolutely necessary to put the lard for the transfer of 3.14ndos into orbit. Put a quota on weight, in general dictate your conditions until your head cools down.
  38. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 4 2014 00: 11
    0
    And here the actions of mattresses are not smart, well, stupid ...
  39. Indifferent
    Indifferent April 4 2014 00: 44
    -3
    We are not profitable if the Americans close and seal their module on the ISS. The main energy is located just on their module. We will not be able to conduct the planned experiments on the ISS. So this is a two-way road and closing it is not profitable. Since the Americans do not want to stop cooperation on the ISS, then we need to continue it!
    1. Dzhanych
      Dzhanych April 4 2014 02: 58
      +1
      I'm trudging! What the hell is the main energy on THEIR module ??? And what does it mean "Since the Americans don't want to ..." ??? It means to make the Wishlist grow!
  40. Antibrim
    Antibrim April 4 2014 01: 05
    +1
    and let them sit at home) what cosmos do they need at all, we will not let enemies go
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  42. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat April 4 2014 01: 41
    +1
    No one is so worried about relations with Russia as the Americans on the ISS)
  43. Dzhanych
    Dzhanych April 4 2014 02: 34
    +1
    Quote: Kosha
    Most of all, the American who is now on the ISS is afraid of a sharp break in relations with Russia.

    Bravo!!! You can’t say better! fellow
  44. Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 April 4 2014 03: 32
    +4
    Saray Obamov Respect and Respect hi So, in one fell swoop, give Russia the Solar System .... request Yes Khrushchev with Crimea which we returned just a boy with a bald ass wassat
  45. igor.borov775
    igor.borov775 April 4 2014 04: 35
    +1
    Quote: kasper
    In general, it is not clear what they think, we see the cosmos is now entirely ours)
    Reply Quote
    Yes, everything is fine, beautiful marquise, First of all, what if our people jumped up like that ?? Yes, I found something to boast about, It is China that can be proud that it really has its own program, And we, Our program is simply amazing, it focuses only on joint national projects, So just loud boast just what? Twenty years old !! This is the era of how we are stomping on the site there is no national really good program, Name at least one scientific program that we have successfully launched, Do not strain, no? Remember the accident on the ISS, then the Yankees agreed to close the station and ours was saved by the coordinator Sevatyanov who coordinated after they were released, there are not very many details, now there is really something to do with our national quality program, Yes, we are creating the Angara, but it's just creating our own carrier without Ukraine, and then there is no clear published one so that everyone knows what we want to do and what efforts are directed at; No, they stomp for a long time; they do not decide in any way; If it were only in the space industry, there are a lot of good torpedoes in favor of others, I’m offended by one, Two years ago, failed to create a national bank zlekronnoy card in favor of VISA, And our officials participated, And what we hear oh there was a moment to solve it but it didn’t work there like they didn’t give us their kind, The mouth of the castle was immediately asked to name the heroes, When the Academician was still alive Chertok the famous galaxy that was united by one idea under the leadership of the Queen, He clearly called everything by their names and all these our projects, as he called the throwing of the Heads of Space of Russia, He has nothing to fear, and he clearly qualified all this as a quiet surrender of positions that are already very few, There are such figures that everywhere we just don’t know what happens there is such an organization where naive it’s better not to bother with questions, JUST NOW THERE ARE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY CREATE YOUR UNIQUE PROGRAM, TO DEVELOP OUTER SPACE SPACE LOW SLOW BUT REALLY UNIQUE, Now we are proud of nothing but only one we ????
  46. Gagarin
    Gagarin April 4 2014 08: 32
    0
    I repeat, but it’s worth writing:
    OFFICIALLY OUR STATEMENTS, THE USA PURCHASED ENGINES RD180 ABOUT THE STOCK, UNTIL 2018.
    Flights will not stop.
  47. chastener
    chastener April 4 2014 09: 20
    0
    Most sanctions against Russia, the American astronaut on the ISS is afraid laughing