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Alexander Turchinov. With such happiness and freedom ...

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The Kiev pseudo-government, it seems, is beginning to shift from a political language to the methods of self-styled healers and adverts. The month of the stay of the new “power” on the political olimps of Ukraine had barely caught up, as all potentials, except for inexhaustible verbal diarrhea, dried up. No one can do business, and does not want to - and initially could not and did not want to, but then exercise in delusional eloquence - as much as you like! Typical methods of charlatans, who try to cover their unprofessionalism and complete lack of understanding of the situation with loud words. At the same time, the process is becoming more and more similar to exercises on self-conviction - such mantras for themselves, in order to believe in their own viability, pushing into the background the fact of its complete absence.


This may explain another masterpiece from the self-proclaimed Ukrainian authorities, born on the TV show “Shuster Live”, which has become famous in Russia thanks to its nauseous disinformation flavor. The so-called Acting President of Ukraine Oleksandr Turchynov, as his mantra, repeated the following:

We will return to the Crimea.


Turchinov:

Crimea will not be a peninsula of Russian military rest - it will be a terrible problem for Russia, which is already in international isolation. As Afghanistan led to the fall of the regime of the Russian Empire, so the Crimea will lead to the fall of Putin's regime.


Crimea was, is and will be Ukrainian land
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So, the gentleman with whom the Western "partners" persistently urge the Russian authorities to start a dialogue, uttered words that, in his personal conviction, are capable of scaring Vladimir Putin and, along with Putin, the whole of Russia.

Turchinov compares Crimea with Afghanistan ... After this, to be honest, you begin to doubt that Turchinov received his diploma at the Dnipropetrovsk Metallurgical Institute for knowledge and practical skills, and not some other merit. Well, it is impossible, in fact, to carry such a hopeless nonsense! Or does Mr. Turchinov have so much influence on his membership in the Baptist church, in which another person with unhealthy thought processes, Senator John McCain? I do not whether McCain whispered Turchinov that the Crimea should be turned to Russia for Afghanistan, clearly forgetting that more than 96% of those who voted on the peninsula spoke in a referendum for reunification with Russia. Clearly forgetting that almost 60% of Crimean residents are ethnic Russians. Obviously forgetting that the Crimea as a part of Ukraine turned out to be due to a big misunderstanding. Typical Afghan parallels, y'know ...

Well, ok McCain - in addition, from the Vietnamese captivity of the hemisphere they can’t get into place, but Turchinov is somewhere? .. Apparently, since he puffed out the smoke from tires on the Maidan, he cannot control himself, giving out the first, that sweeps through the skull box. And in fact, it seems that Turchinov himself believes in what he says. A typical "healer" who believed that he could "charge" water from the tap with the power of a word ... Charges amazingly:

According to international standards, international law, no legal agreement in these territories (on the territory of the Crimea peninsula - author's note) does not apply. Not a single decision of any judicial bodies is valid, not a single investment is legal. Those who do this will lose any prospect of moving around in civilized countries.


Bravo, Alexander Valentinovich! Bravissimo! The man who usurped several of Ukraine’s top political posts at once, using violent pressure on legitimate authorities from ultranationalists and radicals of other stripes, sees in himself the power to declare international standards, international law, judicial decisions and legal agreements.

We will have to remind Mr. Turchinov exactly what “legal agreements”, moral norms, and indeed aspects of the Criminal Code he himself violated, since he already managed, like a wildly crazed believer in his infallibility.

First: the illegal seizure of power in the country. Second: the illegal release of prisoners. Third: the illegal institution of criminal cases against judges of the Constitutional Court. Fourth: coverage of terrorists and other gangs using their official position. Fifth: the persecution of the media and journalists. Sixth: the connivance of the glorification of Nazism and fascism. Seventh: complicity in vandalism (tacit agreement with the demolition of monuments, arson stadiums, cultural centers, monuments stories and architecture). Eighth: the split of the country. Ninth: the prosecution of law enforcement officers and their families. Tenth: failure to fulfill economic obligations. Eleventh: communication with foreign agents of influence contrary to the interests of the people of Ukraine.

Only the first item is already pulling for life. And this person, who today sits in the chair of the “speaker” and “acting president” without a bit of legitimacy, and tomorrow will be sitting elsewhere, reflects on the fact that investing in Crimea is illegal, and all investors are almost not international criminals. Good goose! .. So decent people "dark" arrange to continue to think better about the "role" and "place."

By the way, in recent history there was already a gentleman who himself seized power on a wave of revolution — a revolution of roses, who himself broke all imaginable and inconceivable legal norms, covering the positions of peacekeepers with heavy fire from rocket launchers, and then pondering international law. He was also going to "burn the ground under the feet of the invaders." Where is this historical mistake of Georgia now? .. Recall: while it sits in the USA. But, considering the number of criminal cases with which the Georgian Prosecutor General’s Office is trying to communicate with him, it can be assumed that sooner or later Georgia will correct his mistake - he will send the ex-president to where he is supposed to be until the end of life, so as not to arouse people’s desire bring an end to your own hands ...

Obviously, even to Mr. Turchinov, when the shroud over Kiev dissipates, and when his mantras stop distracting the public’s attention from pressing problems, questions of the General Prosecutor’s Office will also arise. Whether it is because of one of the recent orders of the new Ukrainian "power" - to increase funding for the system of execution of punishments from the "reserves". It is necessary to prepare warm places today - to indulge in power for a long time is unlikely to succeed. As they say, with such happiness and freedom ...
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  1. awg75
    awg75 April 4 2014 07: 51
    +51
    this power is like shock therapy for Ukraine - the patient will either die or completely recover from the Nazi infection and have immunity
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 4 2014 08: 04
      +51
      Author Volodin Alexey
      Thank you for your work, Alexey, but was it worth it to pay attention to this clown? What is he talking about and what is interesting to him there? His past nuthouse, in the present inflammation of megalomania, and in the future, complete collapse. hi
      1. Tersky
        Tersky April 4 2014 08: 13
        +36
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        His past nuthouse, in the present inflammation of megalomania, and in the future complete collapse.

        Not ... in the future, too, a psychiatric hospital, only until the end of days .. To call the enemies of the people all who are against the new government this is no longer a diagnosis, this is a verdict.
        Sasha hi
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 4 2014 08: 36
          +9
          Quote: Tersky
          Not ... in the future, too, a psychiatric hospital, only until the end of days ..

          No, they won’t keep him in a psychiatric hospital until the end of his days. The new government, which will replace this one, will have questions and more. He will be banged.
          Healthy hi
          1. Tersky
            Tersky April 4 2014 09: 08
            +53
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Yes bang him.

            And not only him, there are a lot of candidates in the current "government" of URCA.
            and catch up:
            1. delfinN
              delfinN April 4 2014 17: 17
              +3
              They all annihilate by June
            2. The comment was deleted.
          2. kocclissi
            kocclissi April 4 2014 09: 34
            +4
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Yes bang him
            Preferably with special cynicism!
            1. asar
              asar April 5 2014 10: 24
              0
              and more desirable - long, tedious and in the gas chamber (previously "stoned" with tires!)!
        2. Salamander
          Salamander April 4 2014 10: 08
          +65
          Will not reach them in any way:
          1. Mister X
            Mister X April 4 2014 14: 52
            +8
            - Lamb! I have two news for you: good and bad. Where to start?
            - Come on with a good one!
            - Lamb, Crimea again became part of Ukraine!
            - What are you doing? Uraaaaaaaaa! And which one is bad?
            - Ukraine became part of Russia ...
            1. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
              Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. April 4 2014 16: 08
              +15
              Crimea will never become part of Ukraine again, even if Ukraine becomes part of Russia. One time was enough!
              1. Sevastopol
                Sevastopol April 5 2014 22: 08
                +4
                That's for sure. We, Crimeans, will not allow this to be done even formally. We are allergic for several generations in advance from one word Ukraine, from any symbolism of this state, its so-called values ​​and heroes. We are Russia, and only Russia. Forever.
        3. Gloria45
          Gloria45 April 4 2014 12: 19
          +14
          Looking at this e..pi.pi.pi, the first thing that comes to mind is:
          Vasisualiy Lokhankin and his role in the (Russian) Ukrainian revolution
          ... So the lengthy thoughts of Lokhankin came down to a pleasant and close topic: “Vasisualiy Lokhankin and his significance”, “Lokhankin and the tragedy of Russian liberalism” and “Lokhankin and his role in the Ukrainian revolution”.
          or maybe this is the truth about the tongue ???
          "The Golden Calf" Ilf and Petrov
          1. Sinbad
            Sinbad April 4 2014 12: 49
            +34
            well mock
        4. sso-xnumx
          sso-xnumx April 4 2014 12: 34
          +2
          not a verdict, but an edict! I mean - go to you ..., in general. he understood us ...
          1. Lelek
            Lelek April 4 2014 18: 36
            +2
            This is in the sense that from Edita Pieha to go you on ...? fellow
      2. Manul
        Manul April 4 2014 12: 02
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Thank you for your work, Alexei, but was it worth it to pay attention to this clown? What is he talking about and what, who cares

        The article is necessary. Let’s hope the reposts will help her to influence the stagnant minds of Ukrainians who listen to any words from the TV. I think ordinary Ukrainians themselves are already looking for information lies, so that God forbid the anti-Maidan position would not be true .. Because they will be very scared .
      3. Very smart
        Very smart April 4 2014 14: 53
        +6
        Alexander Romanov
        He is a clown or a stupid woodpecker millet - not so important. Have you noticed how unsympathetic all these "Maidanists" are? Not a single intellectual, or even pleasant person. Solid faces! Or hari - as you like. With clear signs of hereditary degradation. Hence the problem ... Nature cannot be fooled - it does not tolerate emptiness. Especially in their heads.
        1. alex_83
          alex_83 April 5 2014 17: 39
          +1
          all faces are stiff, as if they were specially selected in one clinic! wassat
      4. timer
        timer April 6 2014 21: 16
        0
        Paying attention to the new Kiev authorities is in the same vein — AT ALL CORNERS OF THE WORLD, SCREAMING IS Nazis and political prostitutes.
    2. dirty trick
      dirty trick April 4 2014 08: 05
      +23
      Quote: awg75
      this power is like shock therapy for Ukraine - the patient will either die or completely recover from the Nazi infection and have immunity

      nda .. as I imagine immunity from the Nazi infection in Lviv ... belay
      however, sometimes dreams come true:
      1. I do not care
        I do not care April 4 2014 08: 33
        +47
        Apparently, the post of president of Ukraine is not a job, but a diagnosis ..
      2. awg75
        awg75 April 4 2014 08: 41
        +9
        when people will have nothing to eat in Lviv - then the treatment will begin. either Lviv will suffocate from anger and powerlessness (for we will not let him harm us) or the cure will begin
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 4 2014 08: 46
          +27
          Quote: awg75
          when people will have nothing to eat in Lviv - then the treatment will begin

          When there is nothing to eat in Lviv, they will blame Putin for this. There will be nothing else.
          1. I do not care
            I do not care April 4 2014 10: 07
            +45
            laughing
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            When there is nothing to eat in Lviv, they will blame Putin for this. There will be nothing else.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov April 4 2014 11: 22
              +4
              Quote: me by
              I do not care

              The plagiarist! I posted this picture yesterday laughing
              1. I do not care
                I do not care April 4 2014 15: 31
                +2
                litter. hi I did not see, I try not to use button accordions.
            2. DeOS78RU
              DeOS78RU April 4 2014 23: 58
              +1
              And now, Putin’s agent Obama is negotiating with Putin’s agents in the European Union how to impose sanctions on Putin so that they benefit Putin, but at the same time, Putin’s agents in Ukraine could tell how Putin suffered and destroy Ukraine.
      3. Sea snake
        Sea snake April 4 2014 08: 57
        +16
        Quote: Author Volodin Alexey
        Obviously, to Mr. Turchinov, when the veil over Kiev disperses, and when his mantras cease to distract the attention of the population from pressing problems, questions of the General Prosecutor’s office will also arise.

        Will arise without fail! There, all these illegitimate "helmsmen" know perfectly well that the day will come, as in the famous film, and they will have to get off the ground quickly.


        There are no poor among them (based on the film "The Princess at the Parasha"), and even now they are at "work" - essno for money fulfilling the long-standing geopolitical dream of the owner (USA).
      4. spech
        spech April 4 2014 10: 04
        +5
        however, sometimes dreams come true:


        the order is wrong: give me a cottage and a yacht fellow
        1. aksakal
          aksakal April 4 2014 10: 24
          +3
          Quote: spech
          the order is wrong: give me a cottage and a yacht

          - as I understand it, I forgot to say the magic word "please" when asked?
          Well, as requested, and performed by the Almighty laughing
      5. delfinN
        delfinN April 4 2014 17: 23
        0
        That's right, thoughts sometimes materialize.
    3. major071
      major071 April 4 2014 08: 39
      +21
      You look at his rozhu, and on it is written in capital letters the diagnosis: a complete ddb with manic inclinations. fool
      1. maximus235
        maximus235 April 4 2014 09: 29
        +8
        Therefore, they do not let him out of the Ruins, so he blurted out nothing more. Only a rabbit rushes around the world with outstretched hand.
    4. dmitrich
      dmitrich April 4 2014 14: 19
      0
      Georgia 2008, only persons of Jewish appearance instead of rooks.
    5. cat 1970
      cat 1970 April 4 2014 15: 10
      +8
      And this is like: "Distribute! Repost PMOP" Berkut "the stronghold of the country's tranquility !!! ATTENTION !! We can not get through to our own! Most likely it is! Information from the subscriber !!! Urgently !!! According to verified data, the employees of the Kiev Berkut They went out in the morning to the building of the main department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine. To support the detained colleagues, they organized a small rally there. The current junta ignored them, provocations and threats began towards the protesters. After that the same officers seized one of the paradise departments of Kiev in the amount of 100 people. and hold the defense there. Whether they seized the weapons of the regional department is not yet known to me. But the fact that they are now blocked by the Right Sector is yes! The PS is preparing to storm the building. The barricaded officers are calling employees from the Berkut of other regions with a request for help! South-East get up! !!! they won't get out of there alive ... Tomorrow Avakov plans to speak out and announce that all the killers of the heavenly hundred have been caught. Do you understand who is being set up? families. I have a contact phone number of the guys - 0956346110 Igor! Here's my number: +380502900501. In Kiev began to arrest the soldiers of the special forces "Berkut"
      1. Kolesnikoff.dmitr
        Kolesnikoff.dmitr April 5 2014 12: 54
        0
        The golden eagle was framed in full. But now the salvation of the drowning people, unfortunately, the hands of the drowning people themselves and polite green men will not help them. And how impolite I want to help them !!!
    6. cat 1970
      cat 1970 April 4 2014 15: 30
      0
      All Turchinov's rhetoric - Hutsul, grazed sheep in the Carpathians, descended from the mountains to Great Kiev - to the "Maidan", N. Asr. Under a bush (protest) and he rushed by storm into Verkhovna Rada, so that the values ​​of the sheep (remember the chronicle - the sheep in in the uniform of a Hitlerite officer) to carry to the "European Retinue".
    7. boozer
      boozer April 4 2014 16: 18
      +1
      Immunity was vaccinated back in 1941-1945, it seems they found an antidote ... or forgot how it was ... In this situation, only surgery and the faster on our side (Russia) the more effective it will be!
    8. maks-101
      maks-101 April 4 2014 19: 23
      0
      I wonder where Ukrainian pseudo politicians are being treated.
      1. asar
        asar April 5 2014 10: 27
        0
        In an elite, closed "madhouse"!
    9. rasputin17
      rasputin17 April 5 2014 18: 44
      +3
      With such an independent government, Ukraine will have about such a future !! Government is the face of the people whom he rules !!
      1. vst6
        vst6 April 6 2014 23: 35
        0
        Bravo chic card
  2. tank64rus
    tank64rus April 4 2014 07: 51
    +15
    How does all this look like Germany 1933. And gang attack aircraft, and provocations and fascism.
    1. serega.fedotov
      serega.fedotov April 4 2014 08: 14
      +8
      It seems! Only smoke on the slurry and pipe on below! Yes, and more than adequate people!
      1. strannik595
        strannik595 April 4 2014 10: 27
        +2
        How does all this look like Germany 1933. And gang attack aircraft, and provocations and fascism.
        “Hegel remarks somewhere that all the great world-historical events and personalities are repeated twice: the first time as a tragedy, and the second as a farce.”
    2. skullcap
      skullcap April 4 2014 10: 58
      +5
      Quote: tank64rus
      How does all this look like Germany 1933. And gang attack aircraft, and provocations and fascism.

      Let's hope that everything will end like in Germany: a gallows, where Turchinov, Yatsenyuk, Parubiy and all other criminal elements will hang out.
      1. asar
        asar April 5 2014 10: 28
        0
        Yes, that's how much "mess" they will arrange during this time, that's what is bad!
      2. vst6
        vst6 April 6 2014 23: 37
        0
        It’s a pity the people while they figure out what's what, and the United States will not hide these shitty things like in Germany
    3. podpolkovnik
      podpolkovnik April 4 2014 13: 24
      +1
      Quote: tank64rus
      How does all this look like Germany 1933. And gang attack aircraft, and provocations and fascism.


      But here's how the money is raised for the army:

      The general director of PAO "Nikolayevoblenergo" Yury Antoshchenko verbally ordered all employees to hand over cash for 1 the working day "to the aid of army".
      This is stated in a letter from an oblenergo employee sent to the editorial office.
      It is reported that in each service and branch of the company lists of employees are provided, where, opposite each surname of an oblenergo employee, the amount to be handed over is indicated, which amounts to daily earnings excluding taxes - 250-300 hryvnia.
      This, according to an employee of the company, it significantly affects the family budget of employees. In addition, people have no belief that the funds raised will go to the needs of the army.
      It is known that earlier the management and employees of the main directorate of the Ministry of Revenue in the Nikolaev Region voluntarily transferred their daily salary to support the Ukrainian army, however, this process was organized centrally through accounting and supported by the regional organization of the All-Ukrainian Trade Union of State Revenue and Duty Workers.
      http://nikvesti.com/news/politics/51740
  3. artifox
    artifox April 4 2014 08: 01
    +20
    Well, what exactly was expected? The guys reached the power, dispersed a bunch of professionals, and now, having no experience or skills, they are trying to pretend to be power. It is a pity only the Ukrainian people.

    When will it end already ... I really want to see Ukraine stable.

    PS And we will not give up the Crimea!
    1. tungus
      tungus April 4 2014 08: 26
      +14
      Quote: artifox
      PS And we will not give up the Crimea!

      About the Crimea, then we are not talking. Moreover, our "Western partners" are no longer talking about Crimea either. Crimea is Russian, and in fact, everyone agreed with this. Now the question is about the future of Ukraine. The fight goes for her.
    2. 311ove
      311ove April 4 2014 11: 41
      +3
      Quote: artifox
      The guys seized power, dispersed a bunch of professionals
      Yes, all of them are professionals there, stuffing their own pockets .... for some 23 years, SPRING this country !!! fool request
    3. olegglin
      olegglin April 4 2014 12: 35
      +2
      “Well, yes. The state is being canceled, and the territory is being optimized from the point of view of business, like the personnel of a corporation.
      They used to say about Russia that during the "integration into the world economy" on our territory, the residence of 15-20 million people is economically justified, and the rest like to eat bread in vain.
      Indeed, if there is already an American army, an American science, an American education system, an American industry, then why unnecessary duplication? )))

      Accordingly, in Ukraine, the optimal model is 5-7 million people.
      The rest are absolutely free - even in a coffin, even in Russia, even in Georgia with Ecuador

      If the European integrators don't pull their hands out now, of course. "...
  4. fif21
    fif21 April 4 2014 08: 04
    +5
    The impostor Turchinov can chat, anything, but really can not do anything. And the article in the Criminal Code is suitable for him, and the place at the bucket is already reserved.
  5. Dimy4
    Dimy4 April 4 2014 08: 06
    +8
    Kiev pseudo-power seems to be starting to switch from a political language to the methods of self-proclaimed healers and possessions

    There was, or rather, there is, the old Russian proverb- The state does not shake the wisdom of the muds.
  6. Kazanec
    Kazanec April 4 2014 08: 06
    +2
    One more thing! Ukrainians, did you achieve this ???
  7. La-5
    La-5 April 4 2014 08: 09
    +4
    Ukrainian jesters practice Western grants.
  8. Gray 43
    Gray 43 April 4 2014 08: 09
    +7
    The author did not mention that Turchinov still found snipers from the Maidan, it was the Berkut men under the leadership of the FSB. The curtain! And the fact that they found the rifle in the trunk of the Maidan activist is normal ??? Well, yes, they didn’t give weapons to Berkut
  9. JoylyRoger
    JoylyRoger April 4 2014 08: 12
    +3
    Yes, for all of them there is one way to power, for immunity. And it is necessary to agree with some kind of cooperation on such cooperation?
    Is it only about replacing the death penalty with a life sentence in exchange for voluntary recognition and surrender of all others.
  10. Monk
    Monk April 4 2014 08: 13
    +1
    Quote: tank64rus
    How does all this look like Germany 1933. And gang attack aircraft, and provocations and fascism.


    Yes, that's how it is.
  11. Gagarin
    Gagarin April 4 2014 08: 16
    +5
    Turchinov definitely prepared as a passing figure, it is useless to ridicule his mediocrity, but behind the curtain real figures are already being prepared - Poroshenko, Yarosh, Lyulya ... there is already a question of who they will pose.
    1. DMB-78
      DMB-78 April 4 2014 09: 58
      +8
      Quote: Gagarin
      real figures - Poroshenko, Yarosh, Lyulya ... there is already a question of who they will pose.

    2. vst6
      vst6 April 6 2014 23: 39
      0
      Vote for Cousin
  12. Skif
    Skif April 4 2014 08: 17
    +13
    God forbid any country of such "therapy", I live here, and every day it gets better and more fun ... The problem is different - until the Russians stop considering Ukrainians as "junior Ukrainians", an artificial nation, even the east of Ukraine will not be Russian. I am not a Nazi, not a Bandera, but please respect my people and my national feelings. I am FOR Russia, I am for the Russian world, but if at the forum here they send my Motherland into a crack, and they send me from Russia, it’s hard not to become a Natsik, but on this now, oh, how they play here ... Do not pour slop on unfortunate Ukraine, the common people are not to blame for the orgy that is happening now, power comes and goes, but people remain ...
    1. desant_doktor
      desant_doktor April 4 2014 08: 38
      +6
      Ordinary people, you say? Remind me how many of these "common people" voted for independence from the union? And now it's bad, right? Do you want to go to Europe? Let's. I’m going to get some popcorn.
      1. Skif
        Skif April 4 2014 08: 59
        +5
        But in Russia did not vote? They do not celebrate Independence Day (presumably from the USSR). In 91, ALL power was in Moscow, and they probably went for popcorn ... And do you know the results of the referendum? The benders twisted then, and indeed, if Yeltsin had been in power for 5 for years, the RF would not have been there, everyone would have chewed the remnants of their popcorn separately.
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 April 4 2014 09: 16
          +15
          Quote: Skiff
          if Yeltsin had been delayed by 5 years in power, the Russian Federation would not have been there, everyone would have chewed the remnants of their popcorn separately.

          That is why Yeltsin did not stay in power for another five years, as you say. Those were those who did not want the final collapse of the country. I hope in Ukraine, in the end, a person who cares for the country and not for his own pocket will come to power and will conduct the policy of his people, not of the oligarchs and the West.
        2. desant_doktor
          desant_doktor April 4 2014 09: 22
          +19
          Oh, anger has gone, good! Another question. Who initiated the so-called parade of sovereignty in the union? RSFSR? Or who else? The EMNIP of the USSR was in the forefront! And as for the one who pissed off something ... Well, my friend, this is not a serious question at all. Where is the economy of Ukraine right now, and where is ours .... You were so eager to be independent of your older brother that you forgot about everything around. I have many friends from Ukraine left in the early 90s. From the southeastern regions, by the way, such as pro-Russian. Tell me how they were squeezed out of there? Yesterday we drank beer together, and today - went out, [censored], do not eat our fat! Do you think there was a single case? No matter how! And then. I understand that in the 90s to kick Russia was the rule of good form, in Ukraine too. Well, the pendulum went the other way. And you are welcome to the colony. Good luck
          Yes, it’s very convenient to blame everything on the bander ...
        3. zao74
          zao74 April 4 2014 09: 34
          +3
          And in Russia there were many paid and duped, but not the majority. And if GKChPisty acted more decisively ...
        4. dmitriygorshkov
          dmitriygorshkov April 4 2014 12: 17
          +11
          Quote: Skiff
          But in Russia did not vote? They do not celebrate Independence Day (presumably from the USSR). In the 91st, ALL power was in Moscow, and they probably went for popcorn ... And do you know the results of the referendum?

          Come on points:
          1) In Russia, there was no referendum on the division of the Union! No need to lie!
          2) Independence Day is in no way associated with the celebration of the collapse of the Union as you have! No need to lie!
          3) The results of the referendum in Ukraine, as well as the back side of the newsletter are freely available! And we know the results!
          4) All power was in Moscow, we pissed it off? There is nothing to discuss here! No need to lie!
          Well, and what do we have in the bottom line?
          I am sure that you, yes, yes it was you Skiff (1) SU who voted for a well-fed, quiet life without a bad brother! Now that everything is bad with you again, this damn brother is to blame!
          Here he still stands in a pose of insulted innocence:
          Quote: Skiff
          Please respect my people and my national feelings.

          It scares that we can become a Natsik! We are to blame for what again ???
        5. dmitriygorshkov
          dmitriygorshkov April 4 2014 12: 27
          +10
          Quote: Skiff
          if Yeltsin had been delayed for 5 years in power, the Russian Federation would not have been there, everyone would have chewed the remnants of their popcorn separately.

          I never considered Ukrainians to be brothers! I was firmly convinced that we are ONE tragically divided people!
          And only now I found out that in Ukraine every house that was blown up was celebrated as a holiday, we were happy about the death of every dead Russian soldier, they sent us to fight our own country with marazot, we supplied arms with anti-Russian forces, we were happy about the mistakes of our pseudo-presidents!
          And now you scare us that you’ll leave for the bandera in the forest?
        6. podpolkovnik
          podpolkovnik April 4 2014 14: 08
          +2
          Quote: Skiff
          But in Russia did not vote? They do not celebrate Independence Day (presumably from the USSR). In 91, ALL power was in Moscow, and they probably went for popcorn ... And do you know the results of the referendum? The benders twisted then, and indeed, if Yeltsin had been in power for 5 for years, the RF would not have been there, everyone would have chewed the remnants of their popcorn separately.


          I dare to recall:
          The only All-Union referendum in the USSR took place on March 17 of 1991. The question was posed to him: "Do you consider it necessary to preserve the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics as a renewed federation of equal sovereign republics in which human rights and freedoms of any nationality will be fully guaranteed?" 75,44% of USSR citizens with the right to vote participated in the referendum. 76,4% of the survey participants supported the preservation of the USSR.
          Incidentally, the Presidium of the Supreme Council of the Ukrainian SSR supported the holding of an all-Union referendum. Additionally, the second question was included in the bulletin: “Do you agree that Ukraine should be a part of the Union of Soviet sovereign states on the basis of the Declaration on State Sovereignty of Ukraine? "Yes or no"". 70,2% answered the first question in the affirmative, the second - 80,2% of the voters who voted.

          Am I confused anything?
        7. mvv
          mvv April 5 2014 00: 27
          +2
          referendum issued an answer on the CONSERVATION of the USSR. then a handful of goats and ram traitors led by Yeltsin sold the union to amers and geyrope. to eat deliciously and sleepy.
        8. free
          free April 5 2014 08: 41
          0
          Quote: Skiff
          But in Russia did not vote? They do not celebrate Independence Day (presumably from the USSR). In 91, ALL power was in Moscow, and they probably went for popcorn ... And do you know the results of the referendum? The benders twisted then, and indeed, if Yeltsin had been in power for 5 for years, the RF would not have been there, everyone would have chewed the remnants of their popcorn separately.


          don’t swear at the Scythian if you are dreaming we will take you as an equal, don’t set up the rest of the Russians against you, we are all a little nervous.
        9. asar
          asar April 5 2014 10: 51
          +1
          Because every nation is worthy of its government! And you yourself "pissed away" Ukraine, your statehood, and all this began not on the Maidan, but much earlier! Long before the clowns from the Maidan came to "power"! What Ukraine, its people wanted - they got it! What will happen to you - God alone, perhaps knows! I can only say one thing - nothing good awaits you if you don’t change your mind, don’t throw the idiots off the throne and don’t go to normal relations with Russia! And it is not worth dictating conditions to Russia, proceeding from bile and anger! Anyway, such behavior in international relations is considered bad form (bad manners, sir!)!
      2. zao74
        zao74 April 4 2014 09: 33
        +6
        Stop, stop, stop! Ordinary people voted for the Union! But the paid power ... did as she wanted.
      3. Altor86
        Altor86 April 4 2014 18: 44
        +3
        I can tell you that the preservation of the USSR was supported by the overwhelming majority of the inhabitants of the Ukrainian SSR. I witnessed this, because he served in Ukraine at that time and I was sent to the voting commission. I personally counted the ballots. I also advise you to remember who was the first to declare sovereignty (the Balts are not considered)? Isn't he a half-drunk conductor?
      4. vst6
        vst6 April 6 2014 23: 41
        +1
        Yes, then the union got it, but now it’s just envious that they, since we couldn’t, they thought that Moscow was being fed, but it turned out there was no
    2. hommer
      hommer April 4 2014 08: 43
      +29
      Vitaly, you are well done. Admittedly, the West has succeeded. There was a crack between the fraternal peoples. I appeal to members of the forum - it is necessary to clearly separate the Ukrainian people from corrupt politicians and fascist shortcomings. When commenting, be restrained, respectful and wise.
      1. desant_doktor
        desant_doktor April 4 2014 09: 06
        +11
        I will repeat the question. Where were the Ukrainian people in 1991? Or is the memory short? There is an excellent phrase from a well-known literary work of the Strugatsky brothers. "Half friend is always half enemy." You are left with the richest of all the republics of the union, with the most advantageous geographical position. Where is everyone now? And there is no need to tell how someone suffers! We suffered so much, we were so unhappy with everything that the Nazis were marching in formation in the center of Kiev.
        1. maximus235
          maximus235 April 4 2014 09: 37
          +9
          Friends! let's live in peace. We, too, are not all chocolate. And after the collapse, Russia was also torn to pieces and ordinary people simply were not able to influence this process.
          I hope that they succeed. And the country will get out of the pit where it was driven by the oligarch militants.
          1. dmitriygorshkov
            dmitriygorshkov April 4 2014 15: 14
            +1
            Quote: maximus235
            Friends! let's live in peace.

            Yes, who is arguing! Come on!
            Quote: maximus235
            We, too, are not all chocolate.

            Not at all chocolate!
            Quote: maximus235
            I hope that they succeed.

            In order for something to work out, something needs to be done! So far, only banderlogs are being made in Ukraine!
            1. free
              free April 5 2014 08: 52
              0
              Quote: dmitriygorshkov
              Quote: maximus235
              Friends! let's live in peace.

              Yes, who is arguing! Come on!
              Quote: maximus235
              We, too, are not all chocolate.

              Not at all chocolate!
              Quote: maximus235
              I hope that they succeed.

              In order for something to work out, something needs to be done! So far, only banderlogs are being made in Ukraine!


              you need to do in your home in RUSSIA, let's think here and now right here on the forum, what can we do, not the government, but WE?
        2. Skif
          Skif April 4 2014 09: 47
          +1
          The answer is - where were the Russian people in 91? Or is the memory short? Forgot what was going on in Moscow then? I respect the Strugatskys, I read it myself, the phrase is straight to the point. There are enough fascists in the Russian Federation, just lucky with the president, like Belarus, not that our former rag ... And about the Bender, on which everything is convenient to blame, is nonsense. Do you know how many Ukrainians fought with them and died after the Victory? The fact of the matter is that ALL nations fought then, and so they survived in the most brutal war in history, and were not divided into "x .. inhabitants of Ukraine of Ukrainian nationality ... ", on" older and younger brothers ", and did not urge on about some fat (like they don't eat it in Russia)
          1. desant_doktor
            desant_doktor April 4 2014 10: 06
            +13
            In March 91, an all-Union referendum was held, following which more than 76% voted in favor of maintaining the union. That's where the Russian people were. In December 1991, there was also a referendum in Ukraine, where 90,32% were for independence. That's where the population of Ukraine was. Write off this to the corrupt power is somewhat frivolous, is not it? Yes, in Moscow in 1991 and in 1993 there was a lot of bad. However, the brain was enough not to repeat this anymore. And in Ukraine, for 23 years, a circus with beating in the Rada continued! Beauties! And about the bander. I, or rather my grandfathers, remembered how they wet the Bander. I’m not to the fact that they are not. I mean, right now, you can blame them on anything you want that happened in the country before. They do not mind, in my opinion.
          2. SPAAARTAAA
            SPAAARTAAA April 4 2014 16: 56
            +7
            I would like to remind the distinguished Skif. Initially, after all, Kiev was the capital of Russia and Moscow was founded much later, by the way, by the Grand Duke of Kiev, like many other ancient Russian cities, so why the ancestors of today's Muscovites, Novgorodians, Pskovians and other residents of great cities did not forget that they were Russian, moreover, settling further to the Urals, to Siberia, to Kamchatka, acquiring a geographic identifier (Uralets, Siberians) do not forget who they really are? The fact that the ancient inhabitants of Kiev were called "Rus", and the surroundings of the "Rus" land are confirmed by the Byzantine chronicles and the Arab, if you suddenly decide to say that "Ukrainians" lived there =). Maybe that's why Ukraine is constantly "in a fever" because of the substitution of concepts and deceitful national identification?
          3. mvv
            mvv April 5 2014 00: 29
            0
            then the people ate the picture on television and on the newspaper pages. plus society split into white reds and undecided. still don't see it? Prokhanov Chubais personally would have strangled and vice versa, respectively.
          4. free
            free April 5 2014 08: 57
            +1
            Quote: Skiff
            The answer is - where were the Russian people in 91? Or is the memory short? Forgot what was going on in Moscow then? I respect the Strugatskys, I read it myself, the phrase is straight to the point. There are enough fascists in the Russian Federation, just lucky with the president, like Belarus, not that our former rag ... And about the Bender, on which everything is convenient to blame, is nonsense. Do you know how many Ukrainians fought with them and died after the Victory? The fact of the matter is that ALL nations fought then, and so they survived in the most brutal war in history, and were not divided into "x .. inhabitants of Ukraine of Ukrainian nationality ... ", on" older and younger brothers ", and did not urge on about some fat (like they don't eat it in Russia)


            finish the Scythian, I understand your feelings, but stop talking in mutual claims, let's put up drinks
      2. free
        free April 5 2014 08: 49
        +2
        Quote: hommer
        Vitaly, you are well done. Admittedly, the West has succeeded. There was a crack between the fraternal peoples. I appeal to members of the forum - it is necessary to clearly separate the Ukrainian people from corrupt politicians and fascist shortcomings. When commenting, be restrained, respectful and wise.


        that’s right, don’t look for the guilty, it’s much more important for us to unite against a common enemy, we can all be mistaken, but it’s much more important to finally get the right understanding of the situation, and this is it, we (Russians and Ukrainians) are pushed against our heads, FORGET THE MUTUAL CLAIMS OR FOR JOY Enemies will tear each other? think about it!
      3. Cherdak
        Cherdak April 5 2014 15: 54
        +2
        Quote: hommer
        it is necessary to clearly separate the Ukrainian people from corrupt politicians and fascist shortcomings

        Maybe everything is easier?
    3. Good cat
      Good cat April 4 2014 09: 03
      +12
      Everyone who remembers the USSR will confirm that no one considered Ukrainians "junior Ukrainians", this is most likely your complex, and no one was going to send you wherever, but after the delirium from the "Savikshuster" and other Turchinovs it is difficult to resist, to be honest
      1. Igarr
        Igarr April 4 2014 10: 06
        +3
        Scythian, Vitaly .... I understand your calls.
        But what about, for example, with loonies from the Censor.Net.UA.
        Do you know such a site?
        What do you think about?
        1. omsbon
          omsbon April 4 2014 18: 21
          +2
          Quote: Igarr
          But what about, for example, with loonies from the Censor.Net.UA.
          Do you know such a site?


          Igor, I was on this site and now firmly believe in zombies and mass psychosis. In Ukraine, a lot of mentally ill Russophobia. They carry some kind of pseudo-historical nonsense and believe in it!
    4. skullcap
      skullcap April 4 2014 11: 41
      +23
      Quote: Skiff
      The problem is different - until the Russians stop considering Ukrainians as “junior Ukrainians,” an artificial nation, even the east of Ukraine will not be Russian. I am not a Nazi, not a Bendera, but please respect my people and my national feelings

      I agree with you regarding the need to treat each other with respect.
      But at the same time, one must have the courage to recognize reality, and not to live in a fictional world. Moreover, it is not invented by you, but by all sorts of different Western well-wishers. But the reality, no matter how hard it is for you to realize, is that the Ukrainians are really artificially invented by the Austrians and their followers. With the aim of splitting the Russian people into separate parts and their further bleeding in the war of mutual destruction.
      Look at yourself and others. When did you become Ukrainians? In the past 20 years. And this language was created before your eyes at the same time, since the Ukrainian dialect, which was previously spoken in Ukraine, was absolutely clear to any Russian person. For which he was called contemptuously - surzhik. Instead, they invented a new language invented to the people, which, according to philologists, consists of Germanisms for 30%, for 30% - for Polonism and for 30% - for barbarism (here it is not a curse, but the designation of colloquial - non-literary - speech).
      Remember that in the past generation or some time before, all Ukrainians called themselves Russians. The Russian Cossack colonel Taras Bulba spoke about this: “I am Russian, not Polish.” From time immemorial there was no such people - Ukrainians. These were the inhabitants of the Ukraine region, as the Poleschians were Polishchuk.
      You can not abandon a kind and their ancestors and change them to a virtual version invented by someone. If different nations make of us (today Ukrainians, tomorrow - Cossacks, Siberians, etc.), no matter how much you call for mutual respect, our sworn friends will find a thousand and one ways to make them quarrel between DIFFERENT peoples who had some ancestors, and bring them to a bloody confrontation.
      Therefore, there is no other way out of this situation, how to return to YOUR RUSSIAN KIND
      1. Docent1984
        Docent1984 April 4 2014 12: 52
        +4
        Here is a clear answer! Everything is specific and to the point. The true truth - everyone who knows the story well agrees with you.
    5. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov April 4 2014 13: 01
      +10
      Quote: Skiff
      I am not a Nazi, not a Bender, but please respect my people and my national feelings.

      And now, what else is striking, how to talk with a "brother", then we are all so independent, proud, and independent, already breathtaking!
      As with the US and the EU, it is better not to remember independence or pride, and let alone independence!
      What would you be respected, you have to do something worthy of respect! So far in Ukraine, only people have shown that Ukrainian men are worthy of respect - "Berkut"!
    6. free
      free April 5 2014 08: 36
      +1
      Quote: Skiff
      God forbid any country of such "therapy", I live here, and every day it gets better and more fun ... The problem is different - until the Russians stop considering Ukrainians as "junior Ukrainians", an artificial nation, even the east of Ukraine will not be Russian. I am not a Nazi, not a Bandera, but please respect my people and my national feelings. I am FOR Russia, I am for the Russian world, but if at the forum here they send my Motherland into a crack, and they send me from Russia, it’s hard not to become a Natsik, but on this now, oh, how they play here ... Do not pour slop on unfortunate Ukraine, the common people are not to blame for the orgy that is happening now, power comes and goes, but people remain ...


      I don’t know how others, although I think many will agree, we Russians do not perceive Ukrainians as younger brothers, but accept as equal, because we all Slavs are the main thing, be calm, we respect REAL UKRAINE, and we despise Bandera scum when they say indecent about Ukraine mean lying scum who came to power and the west of Ukraine
  13. Siberian19
    Siberian19 April 4 2014 08: 18
    +14
    neukaraulili escaped!
  14. Ilja 22
    Ilja 22 April 4 2014 08: 19
    +11
    When it’s all over, poor residents of Ukraine, you won’t envy how much you can look at these clowns, they are the only one road, for Sashko Bilym, they only know how to open their own hail .. when Eastern Ukraine will follow the example of Crimea
  15. johnsnz
    johnsnz April 4 2014 08: 19
    +7
    Unlike you, Mr. Turchinov, Crimea was, is and will be! And you are eating dry rations from that shore, which have not yet been sold!
  16. Dimy4
    Dimy4 April 4 2014 08: 19
    +15
    Yes, in the old days there was a good tradition - to shoot impostors from a cannon in the direction from which they came.
    1. zao74
      zao74 April 4 2014 09: 37
      +2
      First, they burned them in the "bull", and only then they shot ashes. laughing
      1. ziqzaq
        ziqzaq April 4 2014 15: 10
        +2
        Quote: zao74
        First, they burned in the "bull", and only then they shot ashes

        Today you can tie it to the yars, even though the "gift" is flying with scotch tape ...
  17. Humpty
    Humpty April 4 2014 08: 34
    +10
    Wasn’t it time in Russia, looking at the Baptist pastor, to think about adopting a law that a number of religious sects should call themselves foreign agents - dancers, mummers, Baptists, seventh-day cyclists, etc. I have enough reason to consider the cells of Kiev yogis as a totalitarian savage sect associated with the inveterate Bandera. The zombie nature of the Ukrainian population is multifaceted, threatening in nature. One cannot allow this to happen in Russia.
    1. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov April 4 2014 12: 47
      +1
      Quote: Humpty
      Isn’t it time in Russia, looking at the Baptist pastor, to think about adopting a law that a number of religious sects should call themselves foreign agents -

      Timely thought! I fully support!
    2. Russlana
      Russlana April 4 2014 13: 46
      +2
      It has long been no secret that sects also spawned with the help of the "beloved" State Department. This is a terrible weapon.
      1. Humpty
        Humpty April 4 2014 14: 07
        +7
        Quote: Russlana
        It has long been no secret that sects also spawned with the help of the "beloved" State Department. This is a terrible weapon.


        With the union of people with a non-traditional religious orientation, they directly and deservedly considered potential traitors and did not hesitate to talk about their relationship with foreign intelligence services. By the way, Anal behaves in public as a pastor of the sect of mumblers (various Pentecostals).
  18. desant_doktor
    desant_doktor April 4 2014 08: 39
    +5
    All to fight smoking! Especially in the highest echelons of the Ukrainian "power"!
  19. pts-m
    pts-m April 4 2014 08: 46
    +1
    this clown to see honestly fulfills his money for a read script from Uncle Sema and does not suspect about the classic aphorism “the Moor tobish the clown did his job the clown can take care”
  20. Demon
    Demon April 4 2014 08: 50
    +3
    Damn, I’d rather have Turchinov, Klitschko, Yaytsenyuhu, Zhobobok, a woman with a scythe, Yarosh, Korchinsky and another sh.value of the Nazi stuffed hot coals full point. To know who the red mouth fell for!
  21. via75
    via75 April 4 2014 09: 02
    +5
    . inexhaustible verbal diarrhea

    "verbal diarrhea" is a symptom of a dangerous disease - "BRAIN GASTRITIS".
    Such a diagnosis was made by Zhirinovsky to the current Kiev authorities.
    And the worst thing is that the disease is apparently contagious. Look at the USA:
    then they officially terminate their relationship with Roskosmos (even emails cannot be exchanged) except for work on the ISS
    on the trail. NASO Day declares that if they are provided with money they will fly in 2015
    and today the US State Department said it did not instruct NASA to suspend cooperation with Russia

    chatter in the best traditions of Kiev. Probably the disease is transmitted by airborne droplets over long distances
    1. maximus235
      maximus235 April 4 2014 09: 40
      +3
      Passed through pies. :)
    2. podpolkovnik
      podpolkovnik April 4 2014 14: 15
      +2
      Quote: via75
      . inexhaustible verbal diarrhea

      "verbal diarrhea" is a symptom of a dangerous disease - "BRAIN GASTRITIS".
      Such a diagnosis was made by Zhirinovsky to the current Kiev authorities.

      I would have interpreted more broadly - BEARING OF WORDS AND CONSTIPATION OF THOUGHT
  22. zao74
    zao74 April 4 2014 09: 07
    +11
    "Well, okay McCain - from the Vietnamese captivity, the hemispheres can not get into place." Etozh what "hemispheres have moved him apart? wassat
    1. DMB-78
      DMB-78 April 4 2014 10: 06
      +1
      Quote: zao74
      Etozh what "hemispheres have moved him apart?

      all what are !!! wassat
  23. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov April 4 2014 09: 13
    +3
    Spring spring senility grows stronger .. laughing
  24. konvalval
    konvalval April 4 2014 09: 18
    +1
    Grinding with tongue is one thing, and working with your head and hands is another. They do not know how to learn from the mistakes of others, which means there is no mind, consider a cripple.
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  26. DMB-78
    DMB-78 April 4 2014 09: 23
    +1
    We will return to Crimea
    Well, if only as guest workers, welcome laughing
    1. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
      Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. April 4 2014 16: 28
      +4
      God save them from such migrant workers! The FSB has already caught 25 pieces.
  27. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil April 4 2014 09: 35
    +2
    Where did this Baptist with the face of a drunken alcoholic convict get dug up?
  28. stas11830
    stas11830 April 4 2014 09: 50
    +2
    The Baptist preacher Turchinov has long gone to bed. And he will be there if his own people do not bang like Muzychka.
  29. morpogr
    morpogr April 4 2014 10: 15
    +9
    Delirium of a sick person.
    1. ksenofont7
      ksenofont7 April 4 2014 11: 38
      +5
      I think the topic, one in one snout laughing
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  30. infinite silence ...
    infinite silence ... April 4 2014 10: 17
    +10
    Nobody can take up business, and does not want to - and initially they could not and did not want to, but to practice delusional eloquence - as much as you like!


    Golden words ... Some sort of fuss in the sandbox ... With hysteria and complaints to my mother, about the scoop. Throwing from the sandbox to the pistol ...

    MYSTERIES. Complex childhood, wooden toys, lack of vitamins. And as a result of the poor mind.
  31. Klim2011
    Klim2011 April 4 2014 10: 26
    +6
    Quote: desant_doktor
    I will repeat the question. Where were the Ukrainian people in 1991? Or is the memory short? There is an excellent phrase from a well-known literary work of the Strugatsky brothers. "Half friend is always half enemy." You are left with the richest of all the republics of the union, with the most advantageous geographical position. Where is everyone now? And there is no need to tell how someone suffers! We suffered so much, we were so unhappy with everything that the Nazis were marching in formation in the center of Kiev.

    Dear, go to the Ukrainian. sites at least for the censor, read the comments. Draw your own conclusions.
    If our nationally-minded elites had not put Putin into EBN receivers, most likely the Russian Federation would no longer be there.
    But Nemtsov was promoted to the full in this position.
    And now Belgorod and Rostov nd would be part of Ukraine.
    1. desant_doktor
      desant_doktor April 4 2014 10: 36
      +3
      Well, after all, they were found and spent. And what would happen ... Grandmother [censored] would have been with her grandmother, she was a grandfather. Look at the result. Today we have what we have, and what is happening in Ukraine is happening.
  32. Rusin Dima
    Rusin Dima April 4 2014 10: 35
    +2
    I also "like" what kind of nonsense the current de facto leaders of Ukraine are talking about, it seems that balancing is the first thing the Americans taught them laughing
  33. Rubmolot
    Rubmolot April 4 2014 10: 39
    +8
    "Democracy" in action ...

    Prague, Odessa.
    “Two buses with Czechs will celebrate the liberation of Odessa from the Nazis. But the Ukrainians are asking to stay at home. Legionnaire Radim KHRAST, an active paratrooper, already in the spring of last year thought that by the 180th anniversary of the liberation of Odessa from the Nazis he would celebrate in April this year. in this Black Sea port to remind with his friends the courage of XNUMX Czechoslovak partisans in the Odessa resistance.
    In connection with the escalation of protests on the Maidan in Kiev and in other cities of Ukraine, but especially after the Russian occupation of Crimea, friends of Radim Khrast began to "trip" to Ukraine - although it is a noble and patriotic - to restrain. Its boss, the Museum of the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense, Vladislav Taranets, or the Czech Ambassador to Ukraine, Ivan Pochukh, does not recommend it ... "

    Source: http://zpravy.aktualne.cz/domaci/spanila-jizda-legionaru-do-odesy/r~94d2d274bb4c


    11e3b9ba002590604f2e/
  34. tokin1959
    tokin1959 April 4 2014 10: 46
    +1
    Turchinov - your house is a prison.
  35. pvn53
    pvn53 April 4 2014 10: 54
    +2
    These lads will definitely make UKRAINIANS from Ukraine.
  36. awg75
    awg75 April 4 2014 10: 58
    +11
    I saw a wonderful joke:

    Anecdote: Ukraine has joined the EU. Two godfathers sit and drink. One asks:
    well sho? The second one answers: Yes this garbage is the EU - I'm out of work, my wife in Italy washes floors, my son went out
    Marry a German, daughter of a prostitute in France !!! And Putin is to blame for everything !!!
    He told us: do not join the EU do not join the EU !!! He knew a bastard, we will do it in spite !!!

    exactly about Ukraine at 100%
  37. chenia
    chenia April 4 2014 11: 01
    +5
    Quote: desant_doktor
    I repeat the question. Where was the Ukrainian people in 1991? Or is the memory short?


    And you, my friend provocateur. In March, 91 more than 70% of Ukrainians voted for the Union. Russia was the first to declare independence (the day of Russia used to be called differently).

    And by the way, in December, 91 more than 60% of Crimeans supported the independence of Ukraine, but do you know why? Because then Ukraine was more socialist than Russia and ticked from wild Russian liberalism. The fact that the leaders betrayed her (primarily Kuchma), and did not do what is in Belarus, is a disaster.

    You managed for the second time to choose the half-dead Yeltsin, who ruined the economy, shot the parliament and lost the war in Chechnya (and Putin was appointed - you did not choose him). And now you begin to teach that the people are worthy of the ruler whom he has chosen.

    It’s not ideas that win, but money. And the West holds our oligarchs by their eggs (Lazorenko, Firtash - the rest are trembling, the money is there). Yanukovych wanted to jump, and he was buried. And this means everything will be as planned in the White House (if Russia does not shake it), and all other extras.

    And nehru on the Ukrainian people yapping, he is exactly the same as in Russia.
    1. desant_doktor
      desant_doktor April 4 2014 11: 51
      +8
      What are you saying? Same! So why in December 1991 did everyone vote in favor of independence? Wanted an independence? Socialism, then, was more. Well, from you the result, eat.
      About Putin. I do not care how he appeared in power. But he appeared and pulled the country out of the ass. And everyone supported him, most, anyway. And they continue to support. What have you done so that someone like Putin appears? Just inappropriately to babble that here the loot and the oligarchic circles decide everything. You had enough mind for a couple of maidans, but it seems that there is something clever. 23 years to engage in beating in Parliament instead of real affairs, this must be able to ....
      I am not a provocateur. Just across the throat rises all [censored], babbling, they say, as we right now to live that dick. Previously, you had to think. I do not condone our leadership in the 90s. She also tried pretty well. Two countries would remain together, there would be a chance to avoid everything that happened in the 90s.
    2. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov April 4 2014 21: 23
      +1
      Quote: chenia
      And nehru on the Ukrainian people yapping, he is exactly the same as in Russia.

      Yapping at the Ukrainian people? Well, it’s all in Russia all yelling H.O.H.L.Ya.K.U. on gilyaku!
      You were ticking, and we were faced with all this garbage! And you not only didn’t help us, but HAPPENED to all our defeats!
      And now do you think Russia should stick in? Have you been sticking in for Russia ???
    3. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov April 4 2014 21: 41
      +3
      Quote: chenia
      In March, 91 more than 70% of Ukrainians voted for the Union.

      Quote: chenia
      December 91, more than 60% of Crimeans supported the independence of Ukraine,

      These tsifirki exist only in your imagination! I rummaged everything, TOTALLY other results!
      Voting results by region:

      Region “Yes”,%
      Crimean ASSR 54,19
      Vinnytsia region 95,43
      Volyn region 96,32
      Dnipropetrovsk region 90,66
      Donetsk region 83,90
      Zhytomyr region 95,06
      Transcarpathian region 92,59
      Zaporizhzhya region 90,66
      Ivano-Frankivsk region 98,42
      Kiev region 95,52
      Kirovograd region 93,88
      Lugansk region 83,86
      Lviv region 97,46
      Nikolaev region 89,45
      Odessa region 85,38
      Poltava region 94,93
      Rivne region 95,96
      Sumy region 92,61
      Ternopil region 98,67
      Kharkiv region 86,33
      Kherson region 90,13
      Khmelnitsky region 96,30
      Cherkasy region 96,03
      Chernihiv region 93,74
      Chernivtsi region 92,78
      Kiev 92,87
      Sevastopol 57,07
      90,32 total
    4. PureGUN
      PureGUN April 5 2014 15: 55
      +1
      Quote: chenia
      Because then Ukraine was more socialist than Russia and ticked from wild Russian liberalism.

      yes kraintsy constantly ticking from someone. Not tired of digging in the past? It is necessary to look ahead, and not to measure with pipis. What will you do, comrade Ukrainian? Let's have constructive suggestions. In all your writings, the accusation of the "elder brother" slips through. Decide at last!
  38. Riperbahn
    Riperbahn April 4 2014 11: 03
    +6
    All this is wonderful. But I have a question. All these persons of Ukrainian democracy did not come from an airless space. They are in Parliament not the first year. Who chose them there, who voted for them? The people of Ukraine. It is he who is guilty of the state of affairs that has developed in the country.
  39. Submarine B-41
    Submarine B-41 April 4 2014 11: 51
    +8
    The worst thing is that the crack between the fraternal peoples turns into an abyss, which will have to be sooooooo long to overcome!
    1. bandabas
      bandabas April 4 2014 19: 08
      0
      The photo is in the subject, but you can add Mr. in the cap (the main photo in the cap) is Luzhkov. He is already going to work on building a bridge across the Kerch Strait. How much money will be washed away.
  40. sv68
    sv68 April 4 2014 12: 03
    0
    Well, send Tarchyonov to the monastery for eternal repentance. It is necessary to free the country from dishonesty. The main thing is to start the result yourself
  41. kind
    kind April 4 2014 12: 19
    +1
    Turchinov was frightened with straw instead of brains, who for some reason decided that he was a magician of the emerald city.
    1. olviko
      olviko April 4 2014 15: 02
      +1
      "Turchinov is a scarecrow with straw instead of brains"

      "The gentleman with whom the Western" partners "persistently urge the Russian authorities to start a dialogue, uttered words that, according to his personal conviction, are capable of scaring Vladimir Putin and, together with Putin, the whole of Russia."
      A worm imagining itself a boa constrictor!
  42. sm00vik
    sm00vik April 4 2014 12: 31
    0
    The elections will be held. Yatsinyuk, Turchinov, and Ms. Tymoshenko with them, will lose to Poroshenko and let them yap later.
  43. Vixen
    Vixen April 4 2014 12: 35
    +3
    Sorry to rip out of context.

    Quote: Skiff
    Do not celebrate Independence Day (presumably from the USSR)


    I will say for myself: I have not and I will not. In general, I have only two holidays: "The Day of the Soviet Army and the Navy" and "The Day of the Victory of the Soviet People in the Great Patriotic War."

    Quote: kosopuz
    Therefore, there is no other way out of this situation, how to return to YOUR RUSSIAN KIND


    To return by ourselves and to return the other souls of the lost.
    "... Who will be brought, who will be brought, who will be flown in ..." (C) A. Kivinov

    In general, I agree with the respected Scythian that we will not pour slop into Ukraine and its healthy part of the population. We will not generalize and interfere with them with any scum, well-fed and corrupt.

    Scold, if not right.
  44. alex47russ
    alex47russ April 4 2014 12: 48
    0
    Turchinov does not seem to be mentally ill !!! Which has testicular cancer !!! How can this rule the country! He does not understand what he is doing !!!
  45. Mikl1977
    Mikl1977 April 4 2014 12: 49
    0
    At the wake in Turchinka, we will dance! ;)
  46. Paratrooper
    Paratrooper April 4 2014 13: 26
    +6
    Quote: alex47russ
    Turchinov does not seem to be mentally ill !!! Which has testicular cancer !!! How can this rule the country! He does not understand what he is doing !!!

    So it can be said now about any Ukrainian politics, the West is casting for the title of Ukrainian clown
  47. Alexey Ch.
    Alexey Ch. April 4 2014 13: 49
    +2
    Hmm ... insanity grew stronger. Not only was the presence of OKSVA not the only reason for the collapse of the USSR, but also the very presence of parts of the SOVIET Army could not have caused the collapse of the RUSSIAN Empire. The Republic of Ingushetia oppressed in Bose already in March 1917 after the proclamation of the Russian Republic. So a man who looks like a talking shaved ass gets his finger into the sky. But the message is understandable, in fact, everything in Turchinov’s head is now mixed up, as in the Oblonsky’s house.
    Only here Turchinov would, before making profane statements about the disintegration of the Russian Federation, recall a little history of his own so dearly beloved in words of the Ukrainian state: well, all sorts of Rada in Ukraine, all sorts of temporary workers, such as the first presidents of the bourgeois republic of the 1917-1918 model, are not viable. Somehow mother-history disposes in such a way that all attempts to organize statehood among the Ukrainians (by the way, all those involved in breaking ties with Russia - whether it is RI, USSR or Russia, it does not matter, and brought up on Russophobia and artificial denial of community with the Russian ethnos) end in failure. Since the beginning of the 90s, history has measured Ukraine as an independent state for the longest time - as much as 23 years. Unfortunately, even after so much time allotted for education, formation and possible strengthening of the independent state of Ukraine, we see the absolute incapacity of the Ukrainian people and its "elite" to create something truly wonderful, unique and amazing. Precious time was spent on shrill dissociation from Russia and the Russians, on shouts: "We ALSO Europe !!!" (yeah ... and ponies are horses too). Bottom line: many in Russia do not perceive Ukrainians as their brothers in blood, faith, mentality, and in the West (which is natural) they did not become their own, and they will not become.
  48. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S April 4 2014 14: 30
    +1
    Friends, here we all laugh, gloat, over the Ukrainians, and we need to feel sorry for their poor saloids. They started an epidemic, and the infection came from the West, America brought the rabies epidemic to Europe, in this case we need to be afraid, they can bite. Ukraine must throw the Red Cross and the entire red crescent, and heal, heal, heal.
    1. Riperbahn
      Riperbahn April 4 2014 14: 43
      0
      Not the Red Cross, but the Ministry of Emergencies, led by Shoigu :)))))
  49. DimDimych
    DimDimych April 4 2014 14: 38
    0
    Turchinov:

    "We will return to Crimea. "
    "Crimea will lead to the fall of the Putin regime."
    "Crimea was, is and will be the Ukrainian land."

    it seems that all of Kiev's "power" sitting hard on hard drugs,
    in order to break away from reality, because - reality for them is mortally scary.
  50. Saratoga833
    Saratoga833 April 4 2014 14: 38
    +1
    Turchinov? Who is this? Bandit "in law" or "legal" bandit? Rumors about legality or illegality in Crimea. And who himself? Caliph for an hour, a bandit temporary worker who temporarily seized power. And he thinks not with his head, but with his head (I think you can guess which one). And it is not the prison that cries for him, but the nearest swamp!