Amendments to the law on military duty and military service

Vladimir Putin signed the Federal Law "On Amendments to Articles 49 and 53 of the Federal Law" On Military Duty and Military Service. "

The federal law was passed by the State Duma on March 18 and approved by the Federation Council on March 26 of the year 2014.

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The federal law increases the age limit for military servicemen serving in the military service under the contract in the respective military ranks, and, as a result, the personnel, ranks and age of citizens in the reserve of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are adjusted.

So, the age limit for military service is set for: Marshal of the Russian Federation, army general, admiral fleet, Colonel General, Admiral - 65 years old; Lieutenant General, Vice Admiral, Major General, Rear Admiral - 60 years; Colonel, Captain 1st Rank - 55 years; a soldier with a different military rank is 50 years old.

The adoption of the Federal Law will make it possible to entrench citizens who have experience in military service and are capable of fulfilling the tasks of ensuring the defense and security of the state in any conditions.

Comments

[desant_doktor]

Oh how! There is a chance to earn more pension.

[smel]

Not. There is a chance of less retirement

[PAM]

as I understand it, the possibility of continuing the service is meant, rather than writing off to the reserve, and the military pays a pension for the service.
For example, when I was studying at a technical school, there was a teacher (pensioner) with us aged under 32 years. (I don’t remember exactly, but definitely not older) "helicopter pilot" retired after flying hours.

[Predator]

What can I say, I was written off to the reserve at the age of 27 (after 2 wounds) and then served in the Ministry of Internal Affairs for another 15 years.

[renics]

No, new as well as old pension legislation, this is not provided. What you describe was before 1995, that is, the opportunity to receive a pension when you reach retirement age, while not retiring. After this, this item was not considered under the new pension reform.

[avg]

Quote: smel

Not. There is a chance of less retirement

Now salaries are good, especially with allowances, so no one is in a hurry to retire.

[desant_doktor]

It’s like someone.

[Just]

So no one forcibly keeps them in the service. I wrote a report and retired, which is several times less than salary.

[domokl]

Quote: smel

Not. There is a chance of less retirement

Hmm ... and you can’t argue ... I recall an old, still Soviet joke on this topic ...
An officer comes to the pension department for a certificate, and he is given a period of 5 years ...
"What are you? I'm only 45 ... And you're at 5 years ...
- Man, calm down. Nobody has come for the second one yet.
5 years have passed, the official is again for the certificate. The people have gathered, they are considered as an exhibit of the museum ... But the certificate was given in the end ...
And after 5 years, he comes again ... Then the panic rose ... The phenomenon !!! The boss invited to the office ...
"Dear, how do you manage to do this? You are the first in 25 years of my work who receives more than one certificate ... But you officers, as you remove your belt, are falling apart ...
A pensioner lifts his shirt ..
-And I didn’t shoot ...

[Aleks tv]

Quote: domokl

A pensioner lifts his shirt ..
-And I didn’t shoot ...

Thanks for the joke, Alexander.


... In my jeans for everyday wear - a corpse.
It breaks in, Naman.

[domokl]

Quote: Aleks tv

... In my jeans for everyday wear - a corpse.
It breaks in, Naman.

That's for sure ... And then you also need to go hunting and fishing all the time ... Now they don’t make such skin

[podpolkovnik]

Quote: desant_doktor

Oh how! There is a chance to earn more pension.

Of course .... if you revise the law on retirement benefits. I left at 41, because I had reached the pension limit, and my position was reduced

[Predator]

There is no chance! Maximum comrades 85% of the content!

[Aleks tv]

Quote: desant_doktor

There is a chance to earn more pension.

No.
The "grid" by which the pension is calculated has also been moved.
It is impossible to earn more than a "maximum" pension.

And service to service - discord ...
- At headquarters - fine.
-With your favorite personnel - a scribe animal.

They just made an obligation (this is about the possibility of the "+5" service)
Hard to comment.
But my colleagues, pulling the strap in the LINEAR parts - EVERYONE massively retired before this law, there have long been "solid" rumors about it.

Good luck guys.

[gandalf]

Old cadres are left for normal leadership and education worthy of a replacement.

[Very old]

Ett for sure, Comrade Sukhov used to say - it’s time to serve, to give the country experience, knowledge, and skill, worthy to pass

How many good specialists it took, and to realize themselves to the bottom

[avg]

Quote: Very old

How many good specialists it took, and to realize themselves to the bottom

The worst thing is that 50-year-old colonels and doctors of science were kicked out of the academies. So it turned out: "ignoramus - ignoramus teaches."

[Air Force Major]

All this is good. He will pass on his experience to someone, but experience will be transferred not only in combat (combat) units ... Still, schools and academies should be restored at least partially ...

[MAKSAK]

Yes, so that even according to the realities of the present, they taught and how to teach! I think in the near future the situation will get back on track!

[maksim]

double law

[volcano]

Here is the main question about retirement.
retirement experience will also increase?
Now 20 years of service and a pension are already there. And in the light of the new law?

[Alejandro]

The changes concern only the age limit ...

[Sma11]

Nothing, they get to the length of service. And then such a gift to the military and without a bitter pill. Somehow too generous.

[Tra-ta-ta]

We are being prepared for war! .. And you are talking about pensions ..

[Vladimirets]

Quote: volkan

Now 20 years of service and a pension are already there.

As far as I remember, the minimum pension is after 12,5 years.

[ivachum]

12,5 years of work experience before entering military service. TOTAL: 25 years

[renics]

Under the new pension law, in order to receive the full maximum pension, the total length of service must be 40 years and the maximum salary of 40 thousand rubles.

[ivachum]

Quote: renics

Under the new pension law, in order to receive the full maximum pension, the total length of service must be 40 years and the maximum salary of 40 thousand rubles.

This is for a civilian pension ... To receive a military pension, it is still necessary to have at least 12,5 (calendar) years of work experience in a citizen + at least 12,5 years (calendar !!!) of service and at the same time, the main condition retire upon reaching the age limit for military service. Yes, the pension (probably) will not be maximum, but it will now be 10 years earlier than the civilian one (15 years earlier in the old one). Although if you serve these years, for example, in Tajikistan, you will have 37 years of preferential length of service, i.e. full military pension. Yes, and the ability to grab housing (compensation)

[Normman]

Good news! Now the military experts will be at work, and the personnel of the army will be strengthened! What is important, those born in the USSR for another five years will be at work and many children will be brought up correctly to replace them!

[dmitriygorshkov]

Quote: Normman

Good news! Now the military experts will be at work, and the personnel of the army will be strengthened! What is important, those born in the USSR for another five years will be at work and many children will be brought up correctly to replace them!

I absolutely agree with you! This will definitely play a plus.
Of course, everything is individual, the health is different, but you must agree to foolishly lose a specialist who is willing and able to serve, only because of his birth date!

[ivachum]

"... but you must agree it is stupid to lose a specialist willing and able to serve, just because of the date of his birth!"

And who prevented them from losing? Only the ambitions of Serdyukov, Makarov and others. Many of these lovers of "reporting" remained with the new minister. They also continue to report, only not about the reduction, but about the total and instantaneous transition to a contract, the transition to a new form of clothing (long before its appearance in warehouses), rearmament to the "newest" types of weapons and equipment (AK-74M, with a year manufacture 1984-85) and much, much more. And, well, yes, they pay us MONEY!

[Wiruz]

It would be better if he would return four stars on the shoulder straps of the army general. IMHO

[johnsnz]

Every Shoigu asked. He is in May 59!

[siberalt]

So what? Five years later to amend the law again?

[Very old]

Go to him, everything is enough
dmitriygorshkov is absolutely right
Somehow last year this topic was already discussed at the forum
Like last year, the spread of opinions is not small

[Gagarin]

I WOULD ONLY BE IN GOOD!

[sazhka4]

After the "reforms" Serdyuk and a medic and (in a secret whisper, Putin). The step is expected .. Lack of staff. However, as in any other industry .. I'm not surprised.

[hhhhhhh]

If only there was no war.

[buser]

and how much service? Not everyone, after all, reaches the generals ... And how will this affect retirement ???

[ya.seliwerstov2013]

The adoption of the Federal Law will make it possible to entrench citizens who have experience in military service and are capable of fulfilling the tasks of ensuring the defense and security of the state in any conditions.

As they say, cadres decide everything. So, in the course of the play of Mr. Messenger the military will soon be in demand of your knowledge. The situation ceases to be languid.

[SS68SS]

It would be necessary to organize a council of elders under the Moscow Defense Ministry. To those who retired helped with a young, wise word. The experience and good advice of retirees is always needed.

[siberalt]

Only old men will go into battle And the captain will never become a major. Now let's figure out who will be more, soldiers or generals? Shoigu already had one general in the Ministry of Emergencies for 137 employees. It is not clear, but what is worse than a general experienced petty instructor?

[Fin]

Quote: siberalt

Now let's figure out who will be more, soldiers or generals?

The number of generals depends on the generals' posts, and not on the length of service.
The decision is right.

[Cat]

Quote: siberalt

the worse general experienced petty instructor

An experienced instructor foreman is very difficult to replace or find a new one. And with the generals there are no such problems in principle

[polite people]

Everything that is done is for the best.
The commander is always right.

[Semenov]

Sitting somewhere in the headquarters in a warm place is one thing, and if you freeze snot in the fields, and even as a captain, it's another.

[Stanislas]

Quote: Semenov

sitting at the headquarters in a warm place is one thing, and if you freeze snot in the fields

All individually. At 55-60, there are still very peppy old people who will not go to incubate hemorrhoids in the office, but in the field - that’s it. Snot they probably have an ice-freezer.

[onegin61]

Quote: smel

Not. There is a chance of less retirement

The average age of military pensioners is 59 years.

[onegin61]

Quote: desant_doktor

Oh how! There is a chance to earn more pension.

The average age of military pensioners is 59 years.

[siberalt]

You are confused with the average age of survival of military pensioners.

[desant_doktor]

I am 38, I can already retire. Could 2 years ago, by the way. But wait. Until expelled.

[les103284]

In any case, these amendments are relevant. Everything else, time will tell. The fact that there is a shortage of first-class personnel in many units is not a secret. I would like to use these same personnel correctly, especially in military universities.

[Sasha Major]

now there’s no one to simply equip the armed forces, there hasn’t been recruitment to military schools for 5 years now and they are patching personnel holes !!!!

[desant_doktor]

Well, where how. In my native WMA, the enrollment of the last three years almost doubled.

[jktu66]

Since my graduation from our company 83 people 2 capraza will serve another 5-7 years. Good guys, our sun needs these!

[podpolkovnik]

Quote: jktu66

Since my graduation from our company 83 people 2 capraza will serve another 5-7 years. Good guys, our sun needs these!

And from my graduation, it remains to serve - on the fingers you can count. All who can - have been reduced. Itself fell under 2 times reduction, on 3 th left.

[Tima]

There was a way to reduce the growth in the number of military pensioners.

[kuznesov48]

Until now, there are many officers who have not realized their knowledge and experience. They seem to have been forgotten. Here is the reserve not yet lost. Only human resources departments need to work.

[mabuta]

Like it or not, but at the moment Russia is experiencing difficulties associated with the demographic decline of the Yeltsin period. If we add the collapse of the army in those days, then the law, from the point of view of reality, corresponds to the time. Explanatory commanders are now needed.

[Boris55]

You can serve at the General Staff until you can take them out in front of you. But there are not enough places for all lieutenants in it. In peacetime, it is still somehow bearable. And in the military? Physical standards for different ages are different. How will the lag during the march in the combat situation of the 50-year-old from the 18-year-olds be assessed?

[nov_tech.vrn]

- firstly, not a fact, they visited fifty-two years old in two or three sections, but eighteen-year-olds who dabbled in a jamb, and who were a level 80 magician ...;
- secondly, there are medical indications and standards of physical fitness;
- Well, and thirdly, those who are not affected by the second paragraph, they already serve ...

[Kovrovsky]

Quote: buzer

and how much service? Not everyone, after all, reaches the generals ... And how will this affect retirement ???

It will be reflected in the direction of increase, but you still have to start from 54%!

[ivachum]

And neither how ... As it was the maximum for the GENERAL length of service at 32, it remained. For example, for this it is "enough" to serve 10,5 calendar years in Tajikistan (1 calendar year, for 3 grace periods, some have succeeded). It's not bad to get the maximum pension at the age of 30 .

[Sergg]

Thus, the age limit for military service is set for: Marshal of the Russian Federation, Army General, Fleet Admiral, Colonel-General, Admiral - 65 years; Lieutenant General, Vice-Admiral, Major-General, Rear Admiral - 60 years; Colonel, captain of rank 1 - 55 years; soldier with a different military rank - 50 years.

You can retire as before in 20 years of service, this is important. Here we are talking about the age limit. Another thing is the problem of who wants to retire in half (taking into account his seniority) before it was 45 years old, now 50 years old, only for them the real problem. So nothing special.

[ivachum]

Article 53. The composition of the stock. Concerns consisting in stock.

Article 49 (old wording). Age limit for military service

1. The age limit for military service is established for:
Marshal of the Russian Federation, army general, fleet admiral, colonel general, admiral - 60 years;
Lieutenant General, Vice Admiral, Major General, Rear Admiral - 55 years;
Colonel, captain of the 1st rank - 50 years;
a soldier with a different military rank is 45 years old.
2. For female soldiers, the age limit for military service is 45 years.
3. A contract for military service may be concluded with military personnel who have reached the age limit for military service for up to 10 years in the manner determined by the Regulation on military service, but not exceeding the age of 65 years.

Why change? Those who wish could serve. Another question is that they were not allowed to serve in order to report on the implementation of the reduction instructions.

Only the law was nothing to do with.

[Tra-ta-ta]

Well .. Who said there that the tarpaulin in the cupboard is still useful .. !!! Giving Scotland Independence!

[Dromac]

Somehow I read an interesting book and there, in my opinion, a healthy and patriotic society is shown very interestingly. Citizenship is received by the person who has completed military service and this applies to everyone who inhabits the country. Those. citizenship is not by birthright, but for length of service to the fatherland. And also with the advent of military service, the right to vote appears and at the end of the service it is assigned to him. The topic can be developed and developed, but in my opinion this idea could be embodied

[ivachum]

Robert Heinlein "Starship Troopers"

[desant_doktor]

Yes sir. Great book!

[reader1964]

health is not enough, after forty years, all sores climb out even in the healthiest

[desant_doktor]

I do not agree. If the body did not rape in youth, by the age of 40 it is, as a rule, still strong. There are exceptions, of course, but they usually do not serve in the army. The human body, it is vindictive, then it will remember everything to you. Remember that.

[Alex_good]

1) a demographic pit, not to serve anyone, but defense must be maintained.
2) medicine develops and gradually increases the age of active life. new drugs are available. new techniques. That from which I was treated for 5 years as a child, now passes in 2 months. I exaggerate, but there is a tendency.
3) retirement often turns people into ruins.
4) I am not familiar with the specifics, but I suspect that there have been cases when they were forcibly retired because of age, and people wanted to work ...

is it for someone's pleasure or mockery think? that's right, that's all.

I am not an authority, but this is my opinion.

[ivachum]

Quote: gandalf

Old cadres are left for normal leadership and education worthy of a replacement.

In fact, according to the old law, it was possible to serve up to these ages (+5 years above the age limit), but now it has become a "binding" ("enslaving right" is direct some kind). That's just, not everyone wants to serve until the age of 50 (generals, of course, want everything and, preferably, from the cradle to the grave )

Do not forget the "housing" issue ... Housing (or compensation for it) is calculated for family members, which include wives (husbands), children UNDER ADVANCED AGE and dependents, for example, parents. Now remember - how old will your children be when you turn 50? And your elderly parents too (God forbid, of course) have every chance of not living up to the half-century anniversary of the son (daughter) of a serviceman.

Yes ... and the inheritance (in the form of residential premises, land for construction) will also have to be abandoned ...

[maksim]

Crimea and Sevastopol became part of the Southern Military District
MOSCOW, April 3, RIA FederalPress. Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree according to which the Republic of Crimea and the city of Sevastopol became part of the Southern Military District. The relevant document is published on the official portal of legal information.

[reader1964]

And I am also inclined to think that the minister passed the law for himself, next year he will have sixty - demobilization.

[Colonel]

There is simply no one to serve

[ivachum]

You are absolutely right. Nearly. Of course, there is someone to serve, but the shortage is already felt precisely in the middle command level (company companies, deputy company battalions, company battalions, deputies and service heads)

[Kovrovsky]

Quote: ivachum

And neither how ... As it was the maximum for the GENERAL length of service at 32, it remained. For example, for this it is "enough" to serve 10,5 calendar years in Tajikistan (1 calendar year, for 3 grace periods, some have succeeded). It's not bad to get the maximum pension at the age of 30 .

There is an opportunity to get a higher allowance for years of service, which is taken into account when calculating the pension. So it’s not much, but it will increase even if 32 years of general service and the pension is full.

[ivachum]

... no more than 32 years of preferential service. At least 50 years, at least 100 years of service ... will be paid only for 32 years.

Yes, not all military personnel have preferential periods longer than the calendar ... but no one prevents them from going to serve in Tajikistan, Kamchatka, the Arctic, Siberia at last.

[ivachum]

The main thing here is "... will allow fix in the military service of citizens. "Did someone think that serfdom was abolished in 1961?

[ivachum]

I apologize, a black spot, in 1861, of course

[Pukanpein]

1861 so that)

[alex47russ]

In short! We work to the grave!

[Tilkus75]

And to whom is the pension shining now, except for military and civil servants? Everyone who is in business or at the machine, or as I am an architect, will have to work hard for a tombstone! After all, everything is done in gray and often in black at all. And that has become the norm. I only heard about white salaries in Gazprom.

[ivachum]

"And who now has a pension, except for the military and civil servants? Anyone who is in business or at the machine tool or as an architect will have to work hard to the grave! Everything is done in gray and often even in black. And this has become the norm. About whites. I have only heard salaries from Gazprom. "

Running into the army before it's too late. There they pay MONEY, and make them ... no need!

The truth about two days off a week will have to be forgotten, and one thing as it were, Sunday from 14.00:06.00 p.m. to XNUMX:XNUMX a.m. on Monday, and that, maybe, at the beginning of a sports festival for the whole gang ... part.

By the way, money ... here you need to buy irons, paint the parade ground for the arrival of the Moscow Region, walls ... replace the posters, stands on the parade ground ... Well, you do it for yourself, so that it would be easier and more comfortable for you to serve. Do you say that in the past? Oh well...

Are you used to spend your vacation in Turkey? Wean. And turn in your passport to the personnel department. To parents in Kazakhstan decided to motanut for a week? Please, get permission from the curator of your unit from state security. Etc. etc.

And so - paradise and more.

[alex47russ]

All the same, do not live on a pension!

[Kovrovsky]

Watching what a pension!

[alex47russ]

All the same, do not live on a pension!

[reader1964]

there was a reason for apartmentless fenders to attract for further service

[ivachum]

Attract - no, force - yes.

[Vtel]

Now grandfathers with big stars will increase.

[Yun Klob]

Argyrospids of Alexander the Great were manned from experienced warriors no younger than 60 years old and at the same time drove everyone. So, even ordinary Russian Armed Forces up to 60 years can serve and inspire fear in the enemy.

[vst6]

Yes, it was done for the close ones so that they would serve with him until retirement

[understudy]

Lyaya .. well, just a little stayed "in retirement", now again "in reserve" to leave.

[Earnest]

Quote: Dromac

Somehow I read an interesting book and there, in my opinion, a healthy and patriotic society is shown very interestingly. Citizenship is received by the person who has completed military service and this applies to everyone who inhabits the country. Those. citizenship is not by birthright, but for length of service to the fatherland. And also with the advent of military service, the right to vote appears and at the end of the service it is assigned to him. The topic can be developed and developed, but in my opinion this idea could be embodied

Hanline, Starship Troopers. Citizens' rights - after 3 or more years of service, the right to vote and be elected - only after dismissal. But everyone can serve, the blind can go to the headquarters, lick the stamps and glue them on the envelope.

[ivachum]

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Quote: Yoon Clob

Argyrospids of Alexander the Great were manned from experienced warriors no younger than 60 years old and at the same time drove everyone. So, even ordinary Russian Armed Forces up to 60 years can serve and inspire fear in the enemy.

Why did you get this? Then, up to 50 years, few ordinary people survived, and warriors even more so.

Argyraspids - “silver shields” - an elite unit of hypaspists in the royal Aghema, who for distinctions in battles received from Alexander the Great the insignia - silvered shields. After the death of Alexander, they served with Eumenes, then with Antigonus One-Eyed, who disbanded this unit.

[demotivator]

Quote: Aleks tv

And service to service - discord ...
- At headquarters - fine.
-With your favorite personnel - a scribe animal.

With "favorite personnel" up to 50 years old, with all the desire to serve, it will not work - because those who have served up to that age are at least colonels in the post of regiment commander and equal to them. And these people, unlike platoon and company commanders, no longer cry from the l / s, they live for them. They are just different weight classes. Well, won't the company lump pull its company strap until it reaches the age of 50?

[Aleks tv]

Quote: demotivator

Well, will not the company pull its company strap until it reaches the age of 50 years?

Michael, God forbid such joy ...
ETOGES what a raider to be ...


The battalion commanders and officers, too, are not sickly.
The linear part - it is also in Africa: LINEAR PART ...
-NSS shlopotpt or gray-haired whiskey to get ... with "favorite personnel" ... it is possible for any position.


For us. For officers of the LINEAR units.
And then until you pour yourself, no one will offer.

[Colonel]

Quote: demotivator

in a post of a regiment and to them equal. And these people, unlike platoon and company commanders, no longer cry from military personnel, they live for them.

Yes, this is from the heart. Personal experience or who told?

[Old warrant officer]

I will gladly serve another five years old, I will finish my son at the university.

[ivachum]

"With" favorite personnel "up to 50 years old, with all the desire to serve, it will not work - because those who have served up to that age are at least colonels in the post of regiment commander and equal to them"

Because, captains and majors (probably fools, since everyone could not become colonels ) and left at age 45, in the bulk.

"Well, won't the company lump pull its company strap until it reaches the age of 50?"

Yes? And who will be? Are you going to give the colonel and appoint commanders of the regiments to anyone who turns 45 years old? Or through one? Where the rest? The staffs are not rubber ... there are about 30 company level commanders, a separate platoon in the regiment, and the regiment commander is only ONE.

[Bayonet]

Quote: ivachum

Are you going to give the colonel and appoint commanders of the regiments to anyone who turns 45 years old?

Where to get so many regiments?

[pogis]

http://regulation.gov.ru/project/8728.html
Until it is accepted, a decree for senior officers!

[konvalval]

Quote: siberalt

It’s not clear, why is an experienced sergeant-major-instructor worse than a general?

The scope and volume of dissemination of experience.

[archi.sailor]

Quote: ivachum

Attract - no, force - yes.

and who will force? and on what basis? I’m a freelancer and no one will force me to return, especially with such sores

[Saratoga833]

Forum members! Many of you did not understand the deep meaning of this order! Many immediately hit retirement head on! Officers do not serve for retirement! There is such a profession - to defend the Motherland!!! Officers have ALWAYS been the elite of society and served not out of fear but out of conscience. By elite I do not mean pop stars and various buffoons and buffoons, who at all times were not allowed into high society. If a tsarist officer decided to marry an actress, he had to resign from the army without fail! The experience of a serving officer is an invaluable treasure that he can share with colleagues and comrades! There’s no point in expelling an experienced commander from the army! In D. London's story "A Piece of Meat" there are the words of an old boxer - "... if my experience were combined with his youth, the result would be an invincible fighter." It is unreasonable to get rid of an experienced officer just because he is so many years old and still full of strength! Very smart order!!!

[strimmer]

Correct and very timely law. Most of the old-age pensioners in our country are at the rank of lieutenant colonel, and so there will be a chance to receive a colonel position and rank. In civilian life, pension generally starts at 60, and that’s okay, people work.

[Achtaba1970]

Interestingly, for women in the rank of ensign up to and including ensign, the age of service in the reserves is up to 45 years, and the maximum is 50?

[Shustov]

Now you can kick out senile grandfathers in general... And don’t talk about experience, knowledge... I’ve seen enough of all kinds, I regretted only one of the very many sent to retire.

[strimmer]

There are plenty of people everywhere, but experience is necessary. And people serve not only in the fields and infantry fighting schools, but also in military research institutes, academies and schools. That's where there is a shortage of experienced "senile people"