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The analytical program "However," with Mikhail Leontyev 02 April 2014

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The Ukrainian conflict, which threatened to escalate almost into a world war, somehow enters a calm, so to speak, diplomatic channel.
Foreign Minister Lavrov and Secretary of State Kerry held an emergency meeting in Paris, for which the Secretary of State deployed his plane, on which he was returning from Saudi Arabia. After the talks, the upcoming meeting of foreign ministers of France, Germany and Poland, whose guarantees are under the February 21 Agreement between Yanukovych and the opposition, was announced. The very Agreement, the return to which was the demand of Russia. The guarantor ministers made a statement at the end of the meeting, in which they essentially confirmed the relevance of its main points, stated the impossibility of Ukraine joining NATO and called on the Ukrainian authorities to disarm illegal formations and distance themselves from extremists.

That is, if we leave out the rhetoric and demagoguery about the Crimea and the Russian threat, there are no attempts to save face, portraying satisfaction with a certain withdrawal of troops from the Ukrainian borders, no other basis for compromise. A compromise is needed.

From "Yeralash":
“They seem to be building barricades?”
- Take heart, in the end we are all mortal!

The coup in Kiev, organized by the forces of the national-radicals, was an attempt to forcefully seize power over Ukraine, in fact, the agents of the West. The answer to this brazen provocation was our rapid demarche with the return of the Crimea.

From "Yeralash":
- I'm your new teacher.

It was this response that created the possibility of balance, that is, the federalization and neutralization of Ukraine on the basis of a return to the agreement from February 21. And this is the only way for Ukraine to return to the legal field.

In fact, the neutralization of Ukraine is when the West does not draw Ukraine into itself, and we in it. This is a sufficient basis for a compromise. Subject to federalization, when we can directly build economic and cultural relations with the regions of the south-east. Naturally, on the terms of recognition of the Crimean realities. De jure or de facto is not so important. In fact, the standard scheme for the development of conflicts between Russia and the West is somehow emerging.

Remember, Georgia: first, forcing, provocation - then it was an attack on South Ossetia, - our answer, further wilderness, threats, negotiations and a deal. Syria: forcing, provocation - there was supposedly a chemical attack by Assad, again a wild frenzy, threats, negotiations, a deal. Ukraine: forcing, Maidan, provocation, coup in Kiev, wild rip-up, threats ... Negotiations.

The next step, of course, is a deal. That is, the initial provocation by our favorite partners is an invitation to dance. The dance is passionate enough, as we have heard, but less interesting, and therefore more compact. In Georgia, it took five years to come. In Ukraine, you see, and in a couple of months we will manage.

From "Yeralash":
- Everything, I leave this school ... Is he alive? But!
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  1. spech
    spech April 3 2014 08: 53
    +9
    Spicy sauces, spicy vegetables, red pepper - apparently, so that the Ukrainian army breathed fire on a potential enemy for lack of suitable military equipment ...

    I wonder how they will disarm themselves?
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 April 3 2014 09: 15
      +8
      “They seem to be building barricades?”
      - Take heart, in the end we are all mortal! laughing
    2. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB April 3 2014 10: 04
      +6
      And why the Mexican rebels are silent, can help them in the liberation movement? Maybe you are "boiling" on the US borders to reason the American leadership from interfering in the life of other countries?
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 April 3 2014 10: 17
        +5
        ShturmKGB
        Why Mexican rebels are silent

        Well, why touch the Mexican rebels? -Freedom to the Republics of Texas, Alaska and California !!! laughing
      2. Gloria45
        Gloria45 April 3 2014 10: 42
        +11
        Russkij trolling!
        1. Dazdranagon
          Dazdranagon April 3 2014 10: 57
          +5
          Mocked great! Keep it up! Let them think that we are afraid of them! laughing
        2. Llirik
          Llirik April 3 2014 13: 10
          +2
          In the course of the uncle did not enter what happened. In the course of time, he will soon remain without work.
        3. The comment was deleted.
      3. Buxx
        Buxx April 3 2014 12: 57
        +2
        That's right - the Mexican postants must be demanded to return the original Mexican lands back !!!
  2. Oleg Sobol
    Oleg Sobol April 3 2014 08: 55
    +4
    The dance is quite passionate, as we heard, but all the less interesting, and therefore more compact. In Georgia, it took five years to come. In Ukraine, you look, and we’ll manage in a couple of months.

    This is the school of Solomon Clare,
    Ballroom school, they say.
    Two steps to the left, two steps to the right,
    Step forward and two back.


    Arkady Severny
  3. MolGro
    MolGro April 3 2014 08: 55
    +13
    Everyone has their grievances))
    I don’t understand how federalization will help to end the fascist lawlessness !!
    1. Egoza
      Egoza April 3 2014 09: 31
      +19
      Quote: MolGro
      I don’t understand how federalization will help to end the fascist lawlessness !!

      The Federation assumes its own laws! This means that it will be possible to simply ban the ideology, flags, and so on from Bandera! Deter and judge "dissent". And armed bandits like the Right Sector will not be able to come. Finally, simply expose them outside the federation. However, they themselves will burst without waiting for sanctions. And this is the least!
      1. Mainbeam
        Mainbeam April 3 2014 10: 39
        +1
        Quote: Egoza

        ... it will be possible to simply ban the ideology, flags, etc. from the Bandera! Deter and judge "dissent". ... just put them outside the federation.

        Not an unambiguous decision. At the time, Bandera’s people did not slaughter all women and children, and now the next generation has emerged, brought up on the same ideology. Crimean Tatars were evicted, they also did not slaughter everyone, so they again appeared.

        For example, Gaddafi decided to create a new currency different from the dollar - the gold dinar. Yankos asked, asked not to do this. And then the whole family was slaughtered, including the 7-year-old son (if I remember correctly). Or in Russia after the October coup of 17, the whole royal family was also killed.

        This is a definite solution. Cynical. But not democratic. Not liberal. Inhuman. Banning parties, symbols and flags will not produce results in an endless perspective. Perhaps you can re-educate generation after generation. But for this it is necessary to live in a developed, abundant environment where everyone is equal. Almost communism, damn it. Otherwise, jihad.

        Think about it.



  4. Name
    Name April 3 2014 08: 57
    +7
    ... neutralization of Ukraine is when the West does not draw Ukraine into itself, and we - into itself ...- And if you try to BREED out, at the same time (let them stay in their mess) and it will immediately become easier for everyone, because it is clear to the whole world that Crimea is RUSSIA, and the May 25 elections in Ukraine are a farce. Starting this way from June ... hi
    1. alex13-61
      alex13-61 April 3 2014 09: 26
      +3
      Quote: name
      May 25 elections in Ukraine

      And will they last until May 25 without the "nix" ??? There are so many problems: disarming anarchists, tightening their belts, calling for a penny ... Nooo ... this brew has not yet won back.
  5. SS68SS
    SS68SS April 3 2014 09: 01
    +13
    As always, the truth, well done. And there was a time when Leontyev was called enemy number 1 and Basayev himself signed his death warrant .... But where is Basayev today? All "them" go there. And Leontyev continues to defend Russia with a truthful bold word ... Well done!
  6. Dimkapvo
    Dimkapvo April 3 2014 09: 30
    +7
    1. Uncle smart.
    2. OUR.
    3. Well done.

    PS. a place in hell next to Hitler.
  7. johnsnz
    johnsnz April 3 2014 09: 31
    +2
    "Subject to federalization, when we can directly build economic and cultural relations with the regions of the southeast."
    Yes, we will build with the West, would there be a desire that they are not people, or what? Not a bunch of Natsik set the mode!
  8. Leopold
    Leopold April 3 2014 09: 37
    0
    Next in line after Georgia, Syria and Ukraine, Finland has become a little device in recent years. We are just waiting for this, we can say smile
  9. Keeper
    Keeper April 3 2014 09: 37
    +2
    I love Leontiev! Always capacious, to the point and most importantly - you will not say anything against)))
    As for the whole situation - the United States is trying to crush Russia from all sides, so that Obama does not look like a clown promising manna from heaven. It is sad that Russia, having huge resources, a gold reserve, power in many areas, still does not try to show its strength!
    Maybe I don’t know something, I’m not very aware of anything, and like any amateur, I try to see the truth by looking at an artist who has just begun to create a portrait of History ....
    But I really want to look at the "decaying west" and drowned America ...
  10. shurik
    shurik April 3 2014 09: 47
    +2
    Wait BUT. angry
    1. askort154
      askort154 April 3 2014 11: 18
      +1
      shurik ...... Wait, HOWEVER.


      Shurik, judging by your flag, you shouldn't wait, but: - "Saw Shura, saw"!
  11. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 3 2014 09: 58
    +2
    When concluding a deal, if everything slides down to her, in no way should one forget about the southeast of Ukraine. Well, no way.
  12. ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 April 3 2014 10: 02
    +2
    But I really want to look at the "decaying west" and drowned America ...
    Regarding the decay: Dr. Putin is going to amputate. He says no other way.
  13. Normman
    Normman April 3 2014 10: 11
    +2
    What are these choices ?! Allow these ghouls to gain legitimacy? A turnip will not crack? The elections will be in the fall, after the demonstration trials over the egg-turkino-yaros and their henchmen!
  14. Aleksandr68
    Aleksandr68 April 3 2014 10: 13
    +2
    What, from the point of view of the current Ukrainian authorities (read - amers), are armed formations illegal? I noticed: before signing the agreement, Yaytsenyukh crossed himself. But he does not think: what if God really is?
  15. Bakht
    Bakht April 3 2014 10: 51
    +1
    Federalization is certainly a good thing. But being a realist, one must understand that Kiev will never agree to this. Federalization does not mean the appointment of governors from the center, but local elections. In this case, all the nominees from Kiev (and these are the oligarchs) automatically lose everything that they "acquired by overwork." Taruta's press conference shown on TV is a vivid example of this.

    Kiev will never agree to the election of governors. And that means that all other moments will not be realized. So all these negotiations are just a screen. Ministers know that this is impossible.
    1. mackonya
      mackonya April 3 2014 14: 39
      0
      The article mentions the agreement of February 21, where one of the points was - a return to the Constitution of 2004, which implies a Parliamentary Republic, where the Prime Minister will have more "power" than the President. And I think so, the calculation of the Tymoshenko-Poroshenko duet is exactly what presupposes that Poroshenko will be president, and Tymoshenko again as prime minister (of course, taking into account the falsification). Therefore, my opinion "Federalization" is not a death sentence for the "authorities" in Kiev. And a parliamentary republic just implies the election of a governor, and not a direct appointment, although this is customary in parliamentary republics, but Ukraine is a separate phenomenon, where elections are held before the Constitutional reform. And the adoption of the constitution of 2004 is possible only after the second reading, which should be in the fall of 2014, but everyone is in a hurry with the elections, although the situation in Ukraine will not become less destabilizing from this. In the end, all this will look even sadder.
  16. mabuta
    mabuta April 3 2014 10: 56
    +4
    This team respects only power. As soon as they receive it, so right away for negotiations. Even the rule of law is remembered.
  17. mamont5
    mamont5 April 3 2014 11: 09
    0
    The anthem of Russia in front of the American embassy in Serbia.
    http://www.liveinternet.ru/community/4971818/post319564810/play
  18. sv68
    sv68 April 3 2014 12: 11
    0
    my acquaintance circus loves to repeat, it’s stupid to juggle with square kettlebells. it looks like Europe together with America likes to do such stupid things
  19. Serbor
    Serbor April 3 2014 12: 35
    +1
    Federalization is not only the possibility of local elections, but also the possibility of acquiring a certain autonomy for the southeast. This is the only solution acceptable to Russia. This situation will allow the southeast to get closer to Russia both economically and politically. Only in this scenario is at least some kind of dialogue possible between Russia and the current government in Kiev. Variants of active opposition on the part of Ukraine will lead to tough retaliatory actions by Russia (option No. 2 - military), but this is an undesirable outcome for us, but most of all for them. Realizing this, as well as the fact that neither the EU nor the United States will "fit" into this fight (they will be more expensive for themselves), the Kiev puppets are likely to go to federalization. With all other hands, they are kirdyk. And when the dust from federalization settles down, you can already quietly press on the subject of joining the southeast, good for this, the legal prerequisites will already be created. Something like this.