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Ukraine is waiting for a new "Crimea"

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Scott Ricard, a former NSA official, said in an interview the other day that the CIA did not expect Russia to respond so quickly to a coup d'état committed by the United States in Kiev in Crimea. In fact, no one expected this, except for a few dedicated ones. But therefore, and what will happen next, we can assume today too few people expect.


With the reunification of the Crimea with Russia, a new political reality emerged. The United States and its NATO vassals reject it, cling to the old world under their control, for the argument of “the annexation of Crimea by Russia,” but it is beating time and again with “reality”: all attempts to “put Russia in its place” fail. The active participation of the United States in the neo-fascist, Bandera coup in Kiev, and in the annexation of the whole country under the guise of the coming to power of its puppets, will, sooner or later, become public. The Crimean referendum will bury the myth of American exclusivity and democracy.

In the "new reality", after the "Crimea", Russia's attitude to the new Bandera Ukraine will change dramatically. Previously, the predominantly Russian Crimea was, in fact, held hostage by a nationalist Kiev, and Moscow had, reluctantly, to endure Bandera’s glorification, and generally the West to raise pro-fascist, Russophobic sentiments in Ukraine. The Crimea held Moscow back, but now the Crimean splinter has been torn out of the body of Russia!

Therefore, Russia's policy towards Ukraine will apparently change to the opposite. If, prior to Crimea, Russia worked with any current Ukrainian government, not trying to influence the social situation with “soft power”, as the West did, now everything will be exactly the opposite: a minimum of relations with Kiev, and a maximum with Ukrainian society.

Russia will not have normal relations with Bandera Ukraine. Most likely, there will be no relationship at all: with Saakashvilevskaya Georgia, there was no relationship, practically. Georgia then got out of the situation at the expense of Western aid, but Ukraine is somewhat larger than Georgia, and its help from the West will not save: any help will be scarce!

The independent candidate for the presidency of Ukraine, businessman Rabinovich, went to participate in the elections, it seems, only to repeat this commonplaceness: without normal relations with Russia, Ukraine is “kirdyk”, therefore, even “with tears in his eyes”, it is necessary to agree somehow with Russia. Candidates from the south-east of Ukraine, Mikhail Dobkin and Oleg Tsarev, say the same thing: “Return good relations with Russia”.

Russia's requirements for Ukraine are known: the federalization and autonomy of Russian-speaking regions, the state status of the Russian language, the ban on extremist organizations. Kiev does not hear this, and speaks of the "seizure of the Crimea", of the "war with Russia." Well, that's his choice ...

Bandera Kiev does not understand, or does not want to understand, that Russia will not back down from its demands. Presidential candidates Poroshenko-Tymoshenko, are talking about building a nationalist state. Tymoshenko agreed even before the genocide: "soak the bloody Katsap, and their leader."

What remains of this situation in Russia? Do what she does. Helmut Schmidt, the ex-chancellor of Germany, already an old man, can afford to tell the truth: "The West in the place of Russia would act the same way today."

So, what is the probability of a sane choice of Ukraine? She is quite small ...
But the probability of a nationalist a la Bandera, on the remains of "multi-vector" Ukraine, is very high. And without Nostradamus it is clear: Ukraine is waiting for a new "Crimea" ...
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  1. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich April 3 2014 08: 09
    +93
    As soon as Putin opens his mouth in an attempt to say at least something, fainting and mass "doing in the pants" of the so-called Western politicians will follow smile . I’m silent about Ukrainian banderlogs - you’re not doing anything and are not planning explicitly, but already such hysteria!
    1. Canep
      Canep April 3 2014 08: 14
      +64
      If Ukraine does not comply with the requirements of Russia
      Russia's requirements for Ukraine are known: the federalization and autonomy of Russian-speaking regions, the state status of the Russian language, the ban on extremist organizations. Kiev does not hear this, and speaks of the "seizure of the Crimea", of the "war with Russia." Well, that's his choice ...
      then the eternal Maidan awaits them. Tsent kiev has already turned into an illustration of the Doomsday, or the game "Stalker". If they continue in the same spirit, then the "Zone" from Stalker will be throughout Ukraine. The game seems to be prophetic.
      1. wasjasibirjac
        wasjasibirjac April 3 2014 08: 36
        +24
        Quote: Canep
        If they continue in the same spirit, then the "Zone" from Stalker will be throughout Ukraine. The game seems to be prophetic.

        who will be the burer - Klitschko or Yaytsenyuh, or will new characters appear in the game?
        1. KBACYPA
          KBACYPA April 3 2014 11: 55
          +21
          Something you got excited ... What are they burers? Banal bloodsuckers. It would be possible to write in blind dogs, but the humanoid appearance does not give.
          1. wow
            wow April 3 2014 13: 23
            +36
            Burers of them, like from g ... to a bullet! Already on sale we now have American dry rations, kindly "provided" by NATO to help "siblings" nenki! Everything is simple to tears, the stolen is still driving without changing the course. Those. "... steal that vtekti ...".
            1. Don
              Don April 3 2014 15: 15
              +4
              Quote: yo-mine
              Burers from them, as from Mr. ... on a bullet!

              Can anyone explain what kind of bureurs?
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker April 3 2014 15: 38
                +10
                Quote: Don
                Can anyone explain what kind of bureurs?

                The answer is in the book "Zone" from the STALKER series laughing
                1. Nick
                  Nick April 3 2014 20: 38
                  +2
                  Quote: stalkerwalker
                  The answer is in the book "Zone" from the STALKER series

                  As far as I know, "Stalker" is the title of a film by A. Tarkovsky, which told about an anomalous zone, through which stalkers were guides ...
                  1. yur
                    yur April 3 2014 23: 54
                    +3
                    Quote: Nick
                    As far as I know, "Stalker" is the name of the film by A. Tarkovsky
                    And also the computer game STALKER in three parts.
                    1. samoletil18
                      samoletil18 April 4 2014 17: 15
                      0
                      Quote: yur
                      And also the computer game STALKER in three parts
                      It was made in Ukraine.
                      1. Max alex
                        Max alex April 9 2014 23: 36
                        +1
                        yes they did this game -stalker- in Ukraine ,,,, three different groups did and in the end did honestly ,,, and why so ??? because the games are run by the Americans and they have not suffered anything better than him !! The first version of the game was generally super !!! and ours did what all state games had to be thrown into a landfill, that's why they recruited completely new employees three times and again made the game until we made this option which we already lost several times and, in principle, are satisfied!))) and here is the real first option, it was just fantastic, no one has done this and is not doing it yet,
                    2. samoletil18
                      samoletil18 April 4 2014 17: 15
                      0
                      Quote: yur
                      And also the computer game STALKER in three parts
                      It was made in Ukraine.
                    3. Nick
                      Nick April 4 2014 21: 21
                      0
                      Quote: yur
                      And also the computer game STALKER in three parts.

                      Alas, not yet matured ... wink
                  2. ziqzaq
                    ziqzaq April 4 2014 01: 58
                    +4
                    Quote: Nick
                    As far as I know, "Stalker" is the title of a film by A. Tarkovsky, which told about an anomalous zone, through which stalkers were guides ...

                    Actually, "Stalker" is a series of books from the Strugatsky brothers ..
                    In the context of the Ukrainian chaos, I recommend "It's hard to be a god", you won't regret it ... hi
                    1. Nick
                      Nick April 4 2014 21: 24
                      0
                      Quote: ziqzaq
                      Actually, "Stalker" is a series of books from the Strugatsky brothers ..

                      I read their early science fiction, the collection "Six matches", but the later I tried to read "Mokretsy", it seems to me that is not very ...
                    2. Dilshat
                      Dilshat April 4 2014 22: 04
                      0
                      Grigorovich changed the name "Stalker" to STALKER so that there was no copyright infringement. The creation of the game was also inspired by the work of the same name by the Strugatsky brothers.
                    3. The point
                      The point April 5 2014 10: 10
                      +1
                      Quote: ziqzaq
                      In the context of the Ukrainian chaos, I recommend "It's hard to be God", you won't regret it ..

                      If it doesn't hurt you, this book is a bit declarative. read Bulgakov's White Guard.
                      1. dustycat
                        dustycat April 5 2014 13: 25
                        0
                        Quote: Maksud
                        If it doesn't hurt you, this book is a bit declarative. read Bulgakov's White Guard.


                        Well, this is just a brief description of the scenario of all Ukrainian revolutions.
                2. Grach710
                  Grach710 April 5 2014 08: 51
                  0
                  These are such smelly mutants.
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              3. nkoh
                nkoh April 3 2014 17: 33
                +6
                Burers are a new word. Most importantly, the meaning is clear. Do not be these goats BURERS!
              4. nkoh
                nkoh April 3 2014 17: 33
                +1
                Burers are a new word. Most importantly, the meaning is clear. Do not be these goats BURERS!
              5. oldstaryi
                oldstaryi April 3 2014 20: 59
                +4
                This is the type who controlled the zombie in the Zone with the power of thought, and could subdue the will of a person and control him. From the "Stalker" series ....
            2. Zverboy
              Zverboy April 4 2014 11: 03
              0
              Actually, this is a newspaper duck, because an Internet firm has been selling similar rations for a long time, and they are different in wholesale and retail.
          2. yur
            yur April 3 2014 23: 48
            +1
            Quote: KBACYPA
            Something you got excited ... What are they burers? Banal bloodsuckers. Mo
            You raised them a little high, they do not pull them more than rats.
        2. Feka
          Feka April 3 2014 14: 51
          +3
          wink
          Quote: wasjasibirjac
          new characters will appear in the game
          Quote: wasjasibirjac
          Klitschko and Yaytsenyukh
          wassat laughing
          1. Dilshat
            Dilshat April 4 2014 22: 13
            +1
            Maybe that's why Grigorovich at one time refused to make STALKER2? After all, there were also Svobodovs in the game. At one time there were rumors that the Ukrainian security forces had attacked him. Was he really for political reasons? He didn’t clearly explain then the reason for his refusal to continue the second part of the game, although the game would have enjoyed great commercial success.
        3. Belarus
          Belarus April 3 2014 16: 14
          +4
          Well, if you take into account a possible mutation from radiation, then most likely there will be new and modified beyond recognition. lol
        4. The point
          The point April 5 2014 10: 07
          +2
          Quote: wasjasibirjac
          who will be the burer - Klitschko or Yaytsenyuh, or will new characters appear in the game?

          Klitschko is a pseudo-giant, Yaytsenyukh-Tushkan (not Mexican, but quite American).
      2. vezunchik
        vezunchik April 3 2014 09: 54
        +9
        On suspicion of sniper shooting of the Right Sector on Institutskaya Street in Kiev on February 20, three employees of the Kiev Golden Eagle were arrested. Oleg Makhnitsky, who replaced the legal Prosecutor General, said that nine Berkutovites were suspected, four of which were intensely searched.
        1. sincman
          sincman April 3 2014 10: 30
          +38
          They also said that they, among other things, shot from the hotel "Ukraine".
          And I have a question about rhinestones ... And how, after the execution of the protesters, did they evaporate from this very hotel ?! After all, the hotel was already captured by the Maidanites at the time of the shooting ... And this can be clearly seen from the available videos, in which they are full in the lobby. Moreover, there is also a video showing that a group of shooters bursts into the hotel, which is clearly not similar to the Berkut soldiers. Well, the video on which you can see (see below) that the fighters shoot directly from the hotel room while shooting with a foreign operator’s video camera ... What should I do with this ?! Or fighters fired from some windows, and Berkutovtsy from others ?! And then after the shooting did the Berkut people leave by flushing into the toilet? After all, the hotel after completely combed the self-defense of the Maidan ... and did not find any Berkut residents ... Everything is as usual sewn with white thread. But you can feed a dumb herd of sheep!

          1. sincman
            sincman April 3 2014 11: 30
            +18
            By the way, another indisputable fact:
            The arrows in the video above shoot from rifles without optics.
            The distance from this point to the shot unarmed Maidanists is small - maximum 100 meters. There is much more to the location of the golden eagle, which at that time was hiding behind concrete blocks up the street. This video shows that the hotel "Ukraine" is very far away and you can shoot only with good optics.

            So we see in the top video that the shooter is shooting down and not aiming in the direction of the camera. Those. shooting from this distance at the security forces is absolutely useless. But you can get into the unsuspecting Maydans crawling under the windows completely.
            There is also a video which clearly shows that the shooter from the hotel "Ukraine" misses and hits a tree. We look at the video in the second second:

            For a sniper with optics (allegedly golden eagles) at such a firing distance, this is unrealistic, because a professional from the special forces allegedly shoots, and he should be calm since he is not kept on the front by gunmen snipers since siloviki are located in this direction. But for a gunman who shoots from a rifle without optics, who is kept on the front sight by security snipers - it’s real! And this is also obvious. And there are a lot of such inconsistencies ...
            1. Vyalik
              Vyalik April 3 2014 15: 02
              +15
              sincman

              The fact that their entire investigation is sewn with white thread is clear to everyone and everyone who has at least a lot of gray matter in their heads. Like the fact that they shot musically at the time of detention because they did not need him alive. I immediately after it became known the fact that they shot him said that their investigation would show that he shot himself and twice more, despite the fact that the deceased knew how to handle weapons and if he wanted to shoot himself he would shoot in the head. They want to hang on nice guys from BERKUT that it was they who shot so as not to conduct an investigation and answer the question: who shot and who gave such an instruction?
              1. sincman
                sincman April 3 2014 16: 24
                +10
                http://news2000.com.ua/news/sobytija/v-ukraine/248338
                Interior Minister Arsen Avakov claims that employees of the disbanded special forces "Golden Eagle" destroyed almost all material evidence that could contribute to the investigation into the execution of Euromaidan activists.
                “The previous leadership of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the special forces of the“ Golden Eagle ”did everything to prevent an investigation, or to make it impossible: clothes were burnt, weapons were thrown, documents were destroyed, and so on,” the minister said.

                At the same time, according to him, all the suspects in this case were identified, and one of the coordinators of the "Golden Eagle" was police major Dmitry Sadovnik.

                So simple ... There is no evidence, but there are suspects. Here it is the face of the new Ukrainian democracy in Western patterns.
                1. 52 site
                  52 site April 5 2014 20: 29
                  -1
                  In addition to evidence, there are witnesses and videos. In the area of ​​the Cabinet of Ministers and the Presidential Administration, cameras are located on every corner.
            2. The point
              The point April 5 2014 10: 16
              +1
              Quote: sincman
              There is also a video which clearly shows that the shooter from the hotel "Ukraine" misses and hits a tree. We look at the video in the second second:

              here is bl..in! Well, aren't they creatures?
              in general, all this is similar to settling accounts with those who did not lie under the new government (the Nazis, maydaunov and other WEST).
            3. 52 site
              52 site April 5 2014 20: 27
              -2
              For those who know Kiev, it is clear without words that the bullets are flying from the side of the Cabinet of Ministers, where the "Berkut", BB and "Alpha" were located.
          2. polite people
            polite people April 3 2014 11: 33
            +19
            How they look like the guys from "BERKUT".
            It is necessary to compare real men with these scum.
            SBU in the trash, all the bastards.
            This is nonsense - these are scumbags.
            - nationalists. Eyes run like that.
            Hang up, then shoot. while hanging. negative
          3. 52 site
            52 site April 5 2014 20: 20
            -2
            Can't you see that the Maidan fighter is shooting from the air? The "duck" about shooters from "Ukraine" appeared due to the fact that there were many operators with cameras on the balconies and in the windows. In addition, the hotel was located in the rear of the Maidanites, and the bullets, as you can see, flew from above Institutskaya, from the side of the Cabinet.
        2. Skipper
          Skipper April 3 2014 12: 31
          +6
          Already 12 Berkut
          http://www.vz.ru/news/2014/4/3/680323.html
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker April 3 2014 14: 56
            +9
            Quote: Skipper
            Already 12 Berkut

            And before that, gallant masters caught a lot of Russian spies - in cloaks, black glasses and kinjals in their teeth ...
            1. Drshan
              Drshan April 7 2014 22: 56
              0
              And now they caught a Russian saboteur with a Ukrainian surname and documents that he was registered on the territory of a military unit subordinate to the GRU.
              Do not tell my hooves. He has what was written on the GRU budenovka? Or a parachute dragged after him? ...
      3. Flooding
        Flooding April 3 2014 12: 38
        +11
        The so-called government of Ukraine is working tirelessly.
        Total brainwashing is expected.
        Quote: http://without-variant.livejournal.com/36304.html
        "Conceptual ambush of the new edition of the Law of Ukraine" About education "".
        The most interesting points:
        - The teacher’s rate will be only 20 hours (this is the minimum salary!)
        - All teachers become "contract workers" under a 5-year contract, without the right to early dismissal
        - Compulsory training in Ukrainian in all major subjects (history, mathematics, etc.), final exams are also ONLY for Ukrainian. the language
        - After graduation from a school / vocational school / university, they will issue a certificate from the accounting department about the amount spent by the state on training. In the case of a pupil / student leaving for permanent residence in another country, he or his parents will be required to pay the ALL AMOUNT spent by the state for training
        - Also, all teachers were verbally warned that each class teacher will have an "independent assistant" who will oversee the work

        Read more in the specified LJ.
      4. Baemaley99
        Baemaley99 April 3 2014 22: 00
        +5
        There is a relatively new series of books under the general title "Technotma". So in the first book "Password Eternity" at the beginning of the book the plot unfolds: "Civil war in Ukraine. The main character, a mercenary pilot on an attack aircraft fights over burning Kiev, is captured by the Russian troops. And then the Pgoibel disaster struck the planet." And the hero is thrown far into the future - Techno darkness. Tka how it began with us, I immediately remembered this book. It was written somewhere in 2010. And so far everything is going according to the “scenario.” Revolution, war and “Doom”.
    2. serega.fedotov
      serega.fedotov April 3 2014 08: 46
      +23
      Ratings of the leaders of banderlogs are minimal; their power is on someone else's money and bayonets of thugs! So, the collapse of Ukraine is inevitable! Therefore, not only any statements by the GDP scare them, but the meaningful silence scares them no less!
      1. stariy
        stariy April 3 2014 09: 22
        +20
        Quote: serega.fedotov
        meaningful silence scares them no less!

        Silence frightens them more, leads to despair and wild nervousness.
        1. 52 site
          52 site April 5 2014 20: 38
          -2
          Do not flatter yourself - your Putin no longer scares anyone. Let him say that he wants, or is silent, for us it is somehow the same.
      2. Deniska
        Deniska April 3 2014 09: 42
        +40
        Guys, whatever you want, you need to take Zaporozhye !! I have relatives there))) Sister from Kerch is already "Home")))
        1. ispaniard
          ispaniard April 3 2014 16: 11
          +8
          And I have an old Friend there! I support at 100%!
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        3. 52 site
          52 site April 5 2014 20: 36
          -1
          I also have relatives there, but they don’t want to go to Russia. So do your business better. In Russia, there are no problems
      3. 52 site
        52 site April 5 2014 20: 34
        -2
        Do not wait !!! How would you not like, but there will be no collapse. We survived the thief of Yanyk with his pack, we will stretch now.
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker April 5 2014 21: 02
          +1
          Quote: Plot 52
          We survived the thief of Yanyk with his pack, we will stretch now.

          Under Yanyka, you still lived ... It's sad, but you lived.
          Now you have to fight for survival.
          Quote: Plot 52
          How would you not like, but there will be no collapse

          I will answer in your "tone" - we don't care. We got popcorn with beer for watching the series "How Banderlog saved Ukraine".
          1. Drshan
            Drshan April 7 2014 23: 00
            0
            No, popcorn is not necessary, I want to ram.
        2. Camouflet
          Camouflet April 6 2014 04: 52
          +1
          Quote: 52 plot
          Do not wait !!! How would you not like, but there will be no collapse. We survived the thief of Yanyk with his pack, we will stretch now.


          Of course, there will be no collapse and you will stretch. Personally, I believe in you. Successes.
    3. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg April 3 2014 09: 33
      +22
      Quote: Rurikovich
      As soon as Putin opens his mouth in an attempt to say at least something, fainting and mass "doing in the pants" of the so-called Western politicians will follow smile . I’m silent about Ukrainian banderlogs - you’re not doing anything and are not planning explicitly, but already such hysteria!


      And what are we with these falls? It is necessary that to Putin's rhetorical question "should I start jumping" the West immediately answered "and how high it should be" ...
      1. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre April 3 2014 10: 12
        +5
        Unforgettable scene from the children's cartoon:
        www.youtube.com/embed/lNAhouUBhrM
        takes on special meaning
        1. DMB-78
          DMB-78 April 3 2014 14: 18
          +20
          Quote: abrakadabre
          takes on special meaning

          "Listen, human cub," the bear said to Baloo, "I taught you the Law of the Jungle, but the Banderlog has no Law. The Banderlog are outcasts. They have no tongue of their own, they use stolen words. They are not our customs. They have no memory. They assure that they are a great people, but a nut falls, and they forget everything about it.Banderlog are many, they are evil, dirty, have no shame, and if they have any desire, then it is precisely the desire to be noticed in the jungle . They are all going to choose a leader, make their own laws, come up with customs, but they never fulfill their plans. "
          1. Rurikovich
            Rurikovich April 5 2014 11: 00
            +1
            Quote: DMB-78
            "Listen, human cub," the bear said to Baloo, "I taught you the Law of the Jungle, but the Banderlog has no Law. The Banderlog are outcasts. They have no tongue of their own, they use stolen words. They are not our customs. They have no memory. They assure that they are a great people, but a nut falls, and they forget everything about it.Banderlog are many, they are evil, dirty, have no shame, and if they have any desire, then it is precisely the desire to be noticed in the jungle . They are all going to choose a leader, make their own laws, come up with customs, but they never fulfill their plans. "

            +++++++++++++ !!! How prophetically ...
      2. Rurikovich
        Rurikovich April 5 2014 11: 14
        +1
        Quote: Geisenberg
        And what are we with these falls? It is necessary that to Putin's rhetorical question "should I start jumping" the West immediately answered "and how high it should be" ...

        From the point of view of psychology, the moment is very indicative. Everything fell into place and everyone saw who is who. At the cost of its "death", Ukraine showed who wears pink glasses, who holds a pistol behind their backs, who does what they say ... Therefore, Putin does not need to figuratively make fun of his "partners" in ordering jump heights, he just needs to consolidate the country and WAIT. And take into the bosom of those who please. Even if it contradicts the so-called point of view of the West. Because international laws are simply not enforced. We only need to use it wisely, without escalating the situation. The West itself is escalating it. But the West is not the whole world. Quietly modernize the army. Periodically conduct exercises with launches of military missiles and the transfer of troops from point A to point B to update and change diapers from "partners". Naturally, all this is supporting ideologically and patriotically. People and countries will be drawn to you on their own.
        Wait for someone who knows how to wait.
        We are with you soldier drinks
        1. 52 site
          52 site April 5 2014 20: 42
          -1
          Well, don’t bury us. In the history of Ukraine there were more dramatic pages.
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker April 5 2014 20: 53
            +1
            Quote: Plot 52
            In the history of Ukraine there were more dramatic pages.

            Maybe they were ... But then it was the Ukrainian SSR.
            In today's Ukraine, this crisis is short-term and hopeless ...
            More precisely, the output of Ukraine as such is not expected.
      3. 52 site
        52 site April 5 2014 20: 39
        0
        Dreaming is not bad ...
    4. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre April 3 2014 10: 03
      +2
      mass "putting in the pants" of the so-called Western politicians. I am already silent about Ukrainian Banderlog
      The only difference is that the former will squeal like victims, while the Banderlog heroically say that they are doing a chemical attack against the Moscals.
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    6. VeteranS
      VeteranS April 3 2014 13: 41
      +18
      Now in Kiev there is a grand show staged by the owners of the Ukrainian illegal government from the US CIA ... I didn’t watch this hackneyed lie, but the main point is .. Yanukovych and his assistants themselves (?) Organized riots in Kiev and a number of cities, shot themselves in Maydanovtsev and One unit of the Golden Eagle shot at another .... This is not just bullshit, but a real American super show! Goebbels in hell already envied Avakov and his gop companies!
      But the Lord will give another assessment of this maydanuto
      -Bandera power!
      God save Russia and Holy Russia!
      1. Curculum
        Curculum April 3 2014 15: 11
        +9
        Quote: VeteranS
        Now in Kiev there is a grand show staged by the owners of the Ukrainian illegal government from the US CIA.

        So this is not surprising when at the entrance to the SBU such a picture:
        1. Drshan
          Drshan April 7 2014 23: 09
          0
          Hmm ... Comments are redundant.
      2. 52 site
        52 site April 5 2014 20: 49
        0
        As they like to say nonsense about the events in Kiev, those who were not here, and did not see anything with their own eyes. And do not confuse the Lord here. Perhaps throw Yanyka - his will.
        1. vtnsk
          vtnsk April 6 2014 03: 15
          0
          Quote: 52 plot
          As they like to say nonsense about the events in Kiev, those who were not here, and did not see anything with their own eyes. And do not confuse the Lord here. Perhaps throw Yanyka - his will.


          "God does not like idiots" (C) (from the movie "The Good, the Bad, the Ugly") laughing
    7. Stalnov I.P.
      Stalnov I.P. April 3 2014 14: 35
      +17
      I would like to add, especially to the population of the Southeast, only you yourself can decide how you live, we and the GDP can only help you, only YOU, and when 2-4 thousand people go to a rally in Kharkov, then the problems cannot be solved, you will are already doing it. When 50-100 or more thousand people come out, neither the police, the SBU, the prosecutor's office nor anyone will dare to raise their hand - YOU ARE A PEOPLE and learn to defend yourself and your leaders, when such a mass of people come out and put before the submarine the leaders of the above-mentioned organizations and the governor and if we say we want to go nowhere, they will not go anywhere, especially in joint and coordinated actions of the entire Southeast region, and if they use force, then "Uncle Ivan" that invisible green man will loom behind your back, so Uncle Sam will not help, only YOU decide and you can do it.
      1. builder
        builder April 3 2014 17: 26
        +24
        A child has more brains than the entire Verkhovna Rada
        1. infinite silence ...
          infinite silence ... April 3 2014 18: 39
          +12
          Lesh! Super! Really ... The child has a bright head)))
          Here it is! The future of Russia! good
      2. 52 site
        52 site April 5 2014 20: 56
        0
        100 thousand in Kharkov will not work, because the vast majority of Kharkiv consider themselves Ukrainians. It is interesting if 50-100 thousand people gather in Moscow and demand Putin’s resignation, appoint their own governors, the police and the FSB will not do anything? I doubt something.
        1. vtnsk
          vtnsk April 6 2014 03: 17
          0
          Quote: 52 plot
          100 thousand in Kharkov will not work, because the vast majority of Kharkiv consider themselves Ukrainians. It is interesting if 50-100 thousand people gather in Moscow and demand Putin’s resignation, appoint their own governors, the police and the FSB will not do anything? I doubt something.

          Has anyone already asked the Kharkiv themselves? Or on the Maidan told? laughing
    8. Patriot.ru.
      Patriot.ru. April 4 2014 20: 42
      +3
      Banderlogs do not faint; they are frostbitten.
    9. FAN
      FAN April 5 2014 04: 31
      +2
      Quote: Rurikovich
      As soon as Putin opens his mouth in an attempt to say at least something, falls into a swoon and mass "doing in pants" will follow


      Only Putin is generally silent - rarely opens his mouth, does more and more work. After which, in the West, the mouths open and do not close for a long time.
    10. dustycat
      dustycat April 5 2014 13: 23
      0
      Quote: Rurikovich
      As soon as Putin opens his mouth in an attempt to say at least something, falls into a swoon and mass "doing in pants" will follow


      But what then will happen if Putin or who is next there will just be silent and grin?
  2. Denis 60 rus
    Denis 60 rus April 3 2014 08: 10
    +17
    Bandera Kiev does not understand, or does not want to understand, that Russia will not back down from its demands. Presidential candidates Poroshenko-Tymoshenko, insist on the construction of a nationalist state. Tymoshenko even agreed to the genocide: "to wet the damn, I am the Nazi face, s, and their leader." ---------------- Something to explain to the arrogant clinical idiot (the West and its vassals) is useless, at least in words (hunger is not aunt, then it will come ...)
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    2. sscha
      sscha April 3 2014 08: 52
      +10
      In other words (from the mouth of Merkel) - Ukrainian and Western politicians live in a different life, divorced from the realities of reality !!! hi
    3. 52 site
      52 site April 5 2014 21: 11
      -1
      But to us in Kiev (by no means Bandera), the requirements of Russia are somehow up to the bullet: we will figure out our own problems. Neither Poroshenko nor Yulka have ever spoken about building a nationalist state. Do not confuse calls for nationalism and democracy. As for Tymoshenko’s statement, she simply paraphrased Putin.
  3. Sergg
    Sergg April 3 2014 08: 13
    +23
    Russia's requirements for Ukraine are known: federalization and autonomy of the Russian-speaking regions, the state status of the Russian language,


    I am calling for more. It is necessary to educate people in the lessons of history, already now an opinion should be formed that the southeast of Ukraine is a historical Russian land. These lands were given to the Ruin by the Bolsheviks in order to suppress the counter-revolutionary movement in Kiev. Now we all understand - in vain. There would not be and will not be Ukraine without these areas.

    Historical justice must triumph. Promote this idea on other sites.
    1. AVV
      AVV April 3 2014 09: 39
      +12
      Quote: Sergg
      Russia's requirements for Ukraine are known: federalization and autonomy of the Russian-speaking regions, the state status of the Russian language,


      I am calling for more. It is necessary to educate people in the lessons of history, already now an opinion should be formed that the southeast of Ukraine is a historical Russian land. These lands were given to the Ruin by the Bolsheviks in order to suppress the counter-revolutionary movement in Kiev. Now we all understand - in vain. There would not be and will not be Ukraine without these areas.

      Historical justice must triumph. Promote this idea on other sites.

      And it is also necessary to resume broadcasting TV to the eastern regions of Ukraine, even if you have to relay through Airplanes of type A = 50, this can only be done, the equipment will need to be slightly adjusted !!! Broadcasting only to an evening audience, 5 hours a day, is enough! !!
      1. infinite silence ...
        infinite silence ... April 3 2014 20: 29
        +7
        +++++++++ PLUS!
        Information! That is what is sorely lacking in Eastern Ukraine!
        The war has already begun! Only she is now in an informative format!

        In the Donetsk region, an order was issued - a ban on various kinds of SHEETS! The police must prevent their appearance and monitor the cleanliness of the territory!
        Allowed only election campaigning.
        1. 52 site
          52 site April 5 2014 21: 22
          0
          Not for various kinds, but for "anonymous" ones, where the necessary details are not indicated: customer, manufacturer, circulation. And such a ban has always been.
      2. svd-xnumx
        svd-xnumx April 3 2014 21: 38
        0
        the broadcasting of channels this year can still be established, but I read somewhere that analog TV, it seems, until the end of 2014 should be disconnected in the zone either 100 or 300 km from the border under some kind of agreement. that is the question, was it done on purpose people in neighboring countries would not watch the "wrong channels". In our Bryansk region, people in the southwestern regions watched more Ukrainian TV a few years ago, since Russian TV showed a deck and then a couple of channels through a stump, now I don’t know how this is. And digital broadcasting to Ukraine can only be launched via satellite.
        1. cap-blood
          cap-blood April 4 2014 00: 35
          +2
          By the way, in the South they listened very much to the radio "Voice of Russia": professionally, capaciously, objectively, efficiently and interestingly. However, there is no broadcasting for the third day, in particular, in the city of Nikolaev.
          1. dustycat
            dustycat April 5 2014 13: 51
            0
            Search for NE, LW and HF.
        2. dustycat
          dustycat April 5 2014 13: 50
          0
          Quote: svd-xnumx
          this year it’s still possible to arrange broadcasting of channels, but I read somewhere that analog TV should be disconnected in the zone of either 2014 or 100 km from the border by the end of 300 under some kind of agreement


          It's just that Russia, like all normal countries, is switching to digital broadcasting.
          Therefore, countries that have not switched to it by the decision of the IEK are required to disable interfering analog transmitters.
          Therefore, Russia needs to start shipping digital converters for digital television to Ukraine.
          And the digital broadcast transmitters are stronger. On the border with Ukraine and the Baltic states.
          Well, in Belarus, too.
          1. 52 site
            52 site April 5 2014 21: 24
            0
            It is just necessary that the Russian media show at least something that is similar to the truth, and not themselves come up with stories.
      3. dustycat
        dustycat April 5 2014 13: 45
        0
        Quote: AVV
        And it is also necessary to resume broadcasting TV in the eastern regions of Ukraine

        There now satellite dish prices have grown by an order of magnitude.
        It is necessary to organize there an expanded production of satellite kits and their smuggling from Russia.
        And you can send as a help for free.
        And to learn how to connect up to 20 apartments / huts to one plate.

        Of course, there is a risk of running into a ban on them and writing an article for anti-government propaganda.

        But there is an answer to this.
        Radio waves can be focused not only with mirrors, but also with Newton’s lenses. drawn by metal on glass.
        And insert the glass into the window.

        Newton's lens sprayed on glass looks like a beautiful concentric decoration.
        Meter glass (1mX1m) is quite effective as is the same parabolic mirror in area.
    2. 52 site
      52 site April 5 2014 21: 14
      0
      Do not confuse the land and the people who inhabit them. In the southeast, the majority of the population are Ukrainians. Yes, this is historically Russian land, not just Russian, but Kievan Rus.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker April 5 2014 21: 18
        +1
        Quote: Plot 52
        Yes, this is historically Russian land, not just Russian, but Kievan Rus.

        Your "knowledge of the history of Ukrov" was not drawn from here?
        1. 52 site
          52 site April 5 2014 21: 28
          0
          No, not from here, but also from the history of the USSR: at school, a little at the institute.
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker April 5 2014 21: 39
            +1
            Quote: Plot 52
            slightly

            The main component of your "performances" is
            studied a little
            some dirt
            some tears
            a few rebukes against the Russians ...
            Are you a man or what?
  4. sv68
    sv68 April 3 2014 08: 18
    +13
    Poroshenko and Tymoshenko urgently need to unite and join the united front to go to the polls under the slogan-Poroshenko + Tymoshenko-in-now we together port Ukraine laughing
    1. olegglin
      olegglin April 3 2014 12: 20
      +2
      Ostap Ibrahimovic! Well, when will we share our money ... (oh, made a reservation) our Ukraine?
    2. 52 site
      52 site April 5 2014 21: 29
      0
      Is it like MedvePut?
  5. pts-m
    pts-m April 3 2014 08: 23
    +3
    So the Ukrainians mumbled and the word didn’t fly out and you don’t get caught. But there is no turning back. (Censorship) people are PRINCIPAL.
  6. Arbatov
    Arbatov April 3 2014 08: 26
    +16
    Ukraine is waiting for a new "Crimea" ...
    And not one.
    1. 52 site
      52 site April 5 2014 21: 30
      0
      Solve your problems better.
      1. vtnsk
        vtnsk April 6 2014 03: 19
        0
        Quote: 52 plot
        Solve your problems better.


        Do not advise what to do, and (maybe) we will not tell you where to go ... laughing
  7. Jurkovs
    Jurkovs April 3 2014 08: 32
    +25
    Russia's strongest move was when Putin unexpectedly gave money to Yanukovych and he didn’t sign an agreement with the EU. The zugzwang position still lasts. It gradually dawned on the United States that a unitary Ukraine was no longer possible, and further support for this state would result in more and more "Crimea". There is nowhere to go and the United States has swallowed the bait of "federalization." But Russia, proposing this idea itself, understands perfectly well that it is impracticable and the United States will find itself in an even worse position. Why not feasible? 20 thousand submachine guns have dispersed across Galicia, who will confiscate them, who will run through the forests for Bandera's supporters? In Galicia, the Communists and the Party of Regions are officially banned, who will change this situation, who will return the buildings seized from them, who will provide these parties with equal access to campaigning. All TV channels are owned by oligarchs, and they have gone through a long lustration, there are simply no normal journalists there. Who will ensure equal access to the media during the pre-election campaign or campaigning for the federation? That is, the issue of non-recognition of the results for Russia is only a matter of time. In any case, the stability of Ukraine will drop one more level, and the likelihood of a forceful coming to power of "pravosek" will increase by one order of magnitude. Zugzwang is zugzwang. It is possible that the United States will still have to ask Russia to send troops to Ukraine, knowing perfectly well how it will all end. Or leave Ukraine altogether, also understanding how it will end. Russian takeover of the South-Eastern regions of Ukraine.
    1. Gorinich
      Gorinich April 3 2014 11: 44
      +12
      Putin uses the "principles of judo" (quote from an interview) the opponent's strength must turn into his weakness. If you want the whole Ukraine, you will have such problems. If you want a federal Ukraine, you will have slightly different problems. But there will be problems :)
    2. 52 site
      52 site April 5 2014 21: 35
      0
      Well, what has it all worked out: takeover, reunion? Not tired of getting into other people's business? And do not drive on our media. Regions, communists and representatives of other parties speak freely on our TV. But on your TV channels I saw only "approvals"
  8. Igor39
    Igor39 April 3 2014 08: 32
    +23
    The fact that Ukraine will fall apart is understood by all, not all recognize ...
  9. Boris55
    Boris55 April 3 2014 08: 34
    +9
    There will be no new "Crimea" in the sense of the annexation of parts of Ukraine to Russia.
    There will be a Federal Republic of Ukraine (FRU) with broad powers to the republics.
    1. wax
      wax April 3 2014 13: 03
      +4
      As part of the Customs Union. Or without access to the Black (Russian) Sea.
      1. 52 site
        52 site April 5 2014 21: 38
        0
        Well, we ourselves will decide whether the CU or the EU. And about the Russian sea, tell the Turks, I think, they will appreciate the joke.
    2. Siberian19
      Siberian19 April 3 2014 23: 08
      +21
      that’s about to be like that! laughing
      1. Nikotin13
        Nikotin13 April 4 2014 02: 29
        +3
        Do not offend Rusinov!
        1. dustycat
          dustycat April 5 2014 13: 55
          0
          Rusinov of course feel sorry ...
          But let's hope how much they hope - the West will help them.
          Otherwise, the Rusyns will remain only those that once escaped to Russia from the Petliurites ..
          1. 52 site
            52 site April 5 2014 21: 41
            -1
            Teach history: there have never been Petliurites in Transcarpathia. After the collapse of Auto-Hungary, these lands were ceded to Czechoslovakia.
      2. 52 site
        52 site April 5 2014 21: 39
        -1
        Do not wait guys ...
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker April 5 2014 21: 46
          +2
          Quote: Plot 52
          Do not wait guys ...

          No need to learn ...
          You have waited - the country is in Darmen.
          For 23 years everyone thought - as if to enter paradise on someone else's hump. In Russian it was not possible, they decided to call the AmYRYkans.
          Sin unclean ... laughing
  10. Vadim12
    Vadim12 April 3 2014 08: 34
    +20
    It's funny to watch the west shaking at the mere mention of Putin! Return the Crimea without a single shot: they will digest it for a long time in an after-faint state. Probably getting ready for surprises from Russia wink
    1. Jury
      Jury April 3 2014 08: 54
      +43
      The way our President did this will go down in the history of the world. I’m 48 years old, I never considered America a democratic country. They bring democracy to the country with bombs and shells. The most rotten country in the world. There’s nothing to say about Europe completely, America. They would like the same from Russia. But thank God that we still had such national leaders as V.V. Putin, after the drunk Yeltsin who danced a gypsy girl, played on spoons, conducted an orchestra in a drunken state, disgraced the Great Country as soon as he could. With the advent of Putin and his actions, he embraces pride in Russia, for its hardworking, proud people.
      1. 52 site
        52 site April 5 2014 21: 44
        0
        Russia is no better than America. Not only that, Putin is simply copying the policies of the Americans.
        1. vtnsk
          vtnsk April 6 2014 03: 21
          0
          Quote: 52 plot
          Russia is no better than America. Not only that, Putin is simply copying the policies of the Americans.


          What is "not better"? Than America? laughing
    2. Blot
      Blot April 3 2014 12: 27
      +6
      It was just a masterpiece ... Just a masterpiece !!!
    3. 52 site
      52 site April 5 2014 21: 42
      -1
      It is interesting how shaking of the West can be observed from Russia. Unless on RTR and ORT.
      1. vtnsk
        vtnsk April 6 2014 03: 22
        0
        Quote: 52 plot
        It is interesting how shaking of the West can be observed from Russia. Unless on RTR and ORT.


        It is enough to observe the convulsions of Ukraine ... laughing
  11. Semenov
    Semenov April 3 2014 08: 39
    +8
    Politics is a superstructure of the economy. To remove the politicians of Ukraine with economic sanctions, the principle - "you are responsible for the bazaar", you still have to sit in Russia or in Ukraine.
    1. 52 site
      52 site April 5 2014 21: 45
      0
      We will deal with our politicians. If you feel like it, put Yanyka. This thief is not sorry.
  12. smith7
    smith7 April 3 2014 08: 52
    +10
    "... Russia's demands on Ukraine are known: federalization and autonomy of the Russian-speaking regions, the state status of the Russian language, the ban on extremist organizations." Are these our REQUIREMENTS? It is incorrect to use such a term. Rather, these are some conditions under which interstate relations will resume in full. And the "new Crimea", understanding of reunification through a referendum with the support of self-defense and "polite people", Ukraine is not waiting. There is no unanimous understanding that YUVU is a Russian land, there is no southeast among the "thunder" people. For that, there are already a lot of armed and organized propagandists from the Pravoseks.
    1. tianna
      tianna April 3 2014 11: 09
      +9
      And a mass of inert people who stir only when the money for food and bezin ends
      1. poplar
        poplar April 3 2014 21: 12
        +1
        And they will end soon. There is no money at KhAZ for half a year already, pensions will go to a communal apartment, since May gas for individuals will rise by 75%!
      2. poplar
        poplar April 3 2014 21: 12
        0
        And they will end soon. There is no money at KhAZ for half a year already, pensions will go to a communal apartment, since May gas for individuals will rise by 75%!
  13. Ilja 22
    Ilja 22 April 3 2014 09: 00
    +6
    What remains of this situation in Russia? Do what she does. Helmut Schmidt, the ex-chancellor of Germany, already an old man, can afford to tell the truth: "The West in the place of Russia would act the same way today."

    We do and will do as we see fit, the mattresses understand everything perfectly, they don’t want to backtrack on their own, but they will have to, they still have a lot to backtrack on
  14. ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 April 3 2014 09: 02
    +3
    Quote: Rurikovich
    As soon as Putin opens his mouth in an attempt to say at least something, fainting and mass "doing in the pants" of the so-called Western politicians will follow smile . I’m silent about Ukrainian banderlogs - you’re not doing anything and are not planning explicitly, but already such hysteria!

    Soon, our President will scare their children for their bad behavior.
  15. Cormorants
    Cormorants April 3 2014 09: 08
    +4
    Everything will be simple, the current leaders of Ukraine will soon remove all radicals and fascists (they have already begun), with the help of which they came to power, this will wash them off in the eyes of European peoples, which will allow them to be recognized without unnecessary protests in European society. the policy will be aggressively Russophobic, Ukraine will join the EU and NATO, and will gradually eradicate everything that resembles Russia and its predecessors. Over time, this territory will completely disappear from Russia and from its spheres of influence. Everything goes to this, BUT there is still the South and East of Ukraine, if these regions do not take a decisive step, Ukraine has disappeared. I believe that the struggle for Ukraine is ahead, God forbid that there would be no blood.
    1. 52 site
      52 site April 5 2014 21: 51
      -3
      Yes, do not fight for us, we will figure it out ourselves. And it was necessary to help earlier, when the people tried to throw off completely corrupt power. And it’s a lie that we don’t like Russians. Ordinary people are loved and respected. They only hate Putin.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker April 6 2014 00: 35
        +3
        Quote: Plot 52
        They only hate Putin.

        Because Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, as President of the Russian Federation and as Commander-in-Chief, pointed out to all parasites, “lovers” of Russians and “connoisseurs of history” their true place ... laughing To the applause of the Russian people in Russia and in the Crimea.
  16. Voenruk
    Voenruk April 3 2014 09: 41
    +2
    Wherever you look there are no adequate politicians! You just need to ride the election. Or do not come or vote against everyone.
    1. 52 site
      52 site April 5 2014 21: 55
      -1
      Have you been better before?
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker April 6 2014 00: 36
        +1
        Quote: Plot 52
        Have you been better before?

        And all he - arrived from Mars?
  17. muhomor
    muhomor April 3 2014 09: 41
    +2
    Interesting! What will be done with large enterprises in Crimea. After all, they belong to the Ukrainian oligarchs. And by no means pro-Russian. Raise and modernize? At whose expense?
    1. Sevastopol
      Sevastopol April 3 2014 14: 29
      +4
      for Russia they are not large, but small. those that were large - long abandoned and plundered.

      Alushta (winery)
      Winery "Massandra"
      Gurzuf (winery)
      Factory of vintage wines and cognacs "Koktebel"
      Institute of grapes and wine "Magarach"
      Kamysh-Burunsky iron ore plant
      Kerch Metallurgical Plant
      Kerch Switch Factory
      Kerch Shipyard
      Crimean soda plant
      Crimean Titan
      Livadia (winery)
      Malorechenskoye (winery)
      Marine (winery)
      Perekop bromine plant
      Privetnoye (winery)
      Sudak (winery)
      Sudocomposite
      Tavrida (winery)
      Chernomorneftegaz

      that's all. and if you remove the wine, then in general, nothing remains, and only partially working, and a few so generally on the verge of bankruptcy.
      1. ziqzaq
        ziqzaq April 4 2014 02: 10
        0
        Quote: Sevastopolets
        that's all. and if you remove the wine, then all-nothing remains

        A Sevastopol Ship Repair?
    2. sled beach
      sled beach April 3 2014 14: 40
      +6
      All enterprises in the Crimea were nationalized. Look more often at the news. It was still not enough to comply with the interiors of pro-Western oligarchic bastards!
      1. yur
        yur April 4 2014 00: 21
        +3
        Quote: Sanya Beach
        All enterprises in Crimea were nationalized. See more news
        For some reason, it seemed to me that only the state property of Ukraine was nationalized. About private, it was stated that they remain inviolable. Or am I missing something?
    3. sled beach
      sled beach April 3 2014 14: 40
      0
      All enterprises in the Crimea were nationalized. Look more often at the news. It was still not enough to comply with the interiors of pro-Western oligarchic bastards!
      1. 52 site
        52 site April 5 2014 21: 58
        0
        Actually, all our oligarchic scum are pro-Russian (Akhmetov, Firtash, Pinchuk)
  18. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch April 3 2014 09: 48
    0
    What is true is true!
  19. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil April 3 2014 10: 06
    +8
    How is Ukraine going to live in general? All the time on Western loans and handouts? Russia and Ukraine are too close, but suppose that the elections will be "won" by Tymoshenko, who called for "killing the Russians", how is she going to build relations with Moscow? She immediately killed herself as a politician. Most likely, the president will become a candy-maker, he is constantly silent and does not climb forward, the most "intelligible" candidate, if such a word is generally applicable to these people. But now, I think, everyone has understood that it is necessary to start growing and to support pro-Russian forces in Ukraine, yes, this is a big expense, but it's worth it, we already lost 20 years.
    1. 52 site
      52 site April 5 2014 21: 59
      -1
      Yanyk took all the loans in order to pocket them. And if we eradicate corruption, we will live quietly.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker April 6 2014 00: 37
        +1
        Quote: Plot 52
        And if we eradicate corruption, we will live quietly.

        No comment ...
        Diagnoses not commented laughing
    2. Cen2rion
      Cen2rion April 9 2014 17: 44
      0
      My parents live in Donetsk. And they consider Poroshenko a lesser evil than this doll with a scythe (on the head esessno)
  20. La xnumx
    La xnumx April 3 2014 10: 10
    +11
    Helmut Schmidt, ex-Chancellor of Germany, an old man already, can afford to tell the truth: "The West in the place of Russia would act today in exactly the same way."

    The West would act like Russia ??? Yes schazzz !!! The West would drown the country in blood! For example, tell the Iraqis and Afghans about "exactly the same"! Millions of which were destroyed by the same West.
    1. 52 site
      52 site April 5 2014 22: 00
      -1
      And we in Afghanistan gave out flowers ???
  21. Name
    Name April 3 2014 10: 16
    +4
    If Ukraine does not fulfill the REQUEST (!!!) RUSSIA
    Quote: Canep
    then they are waiting for the eternal Maidan. The center of Kiev has already turned into an illustration
    - AND THIS IS PROBABLY UNDERSTANDING EVEN IN "BP", and after a 73% rise in gas prices and 40% for heat, Maidan (with beds and pigsties) will become a symbol of Ukraine (Kiev) and the stupidity of the rabbit-pastor government.
  22. Oleg Prophetic
    Oleg Prophetic April 3 2014 10: 22
    +5
    I absolutely agree with us, even those who were on the Maidan begin to not be content, somewhere in 1-2 months, if there is a new Maidan.
    1. Gecko
      Gecko April 3 2014 10: 35
      +4
      The fact is that without financial and informational support the Maidan will not take place,
      and the finances and media in Ukraine are controlled by the oligarchs who came to power.
      1. 52 site
        52 site April 5 2014 22: 06
        0
        The Maidan just took place without the financial assistance of the oligarchs and the West. But this is not understood by those who have not seen with their own eyes. Is it really difficult to understand that Yanyk brought the people to the point that people themselves came out, without external interference.
  23. crambol
    crambol April 3 2014 10: 22
    +13
    All that remains is a bunch of used presers:
    1. dustycat
      dustycat April 5 2014 14: 05
      +1
      Quote: crambol
      All that remains is a bunch of used presers:


      And a bunch of used and unused candidates for the prize ... pres ... well, in general, candidates for use.
    2. 52 site
      52 site April 5 2014 22: 07
      -2
      And I did not know that in Russia instead of condoms they use balls. What Putin brought the country to ...
      1. vtnsk
        vtnsk April 6 2014 03: 25
        +1
        Quote: 52 plot
        And I did not know that in Russia instead of condoms they use balls. What Putin brought the country to ...


        In Russia, other colors of national symbols. Color blind? Not?... laughing
  24. mamont5
    mamont5 April 3 2014 10: 22
    +5
    "But the likelihood of a nationalist a la Bandera, on the remains of a" multi-vector "Ukraine, is very high. And without Nostradamus it is clear: Ukraine is waiting for a new" Crimea "..."

    That's just, I think that this will not happen so quickly and not as peacefully as in the Crimea.
    1. dustycat
      dustycat April 5 2014 14: 06
      0
      Quote: mamont5
      That's just, I think that this will not happen so quickly and not as peacefully as in the Crimea.


      Wow .. The followers of Petlyura leave the dissenters without blood.
  25. Gray 43
    Gray 43 April 3 2014 10: 28
    +6
    The West understands well that the nationalists, scumbags, seized power in Ukraine, but does nothing, waiting for the next step of Russia, in their opinion, Putin will send troops, as they measure their arshin-democracy through bombing. and tank columns
    1. 52 site
      52 site April 5 2014 22: 09
      -2
      Since when did Tymoshenko, Turchinov, Klitschko, Yatsenyuk, Poroshenko become nationalists?
  26. Normman
    Normman April 3 2014 10: 48
    +17
    From Lviv to Lugansk, one huge Crimea!
    Holy Russia, we won’t give an inch to the enemy!
    Pack your bags Turchinov, Yatsenyuk
    And the faster, the better, otherwise you will get a kayak!

    The people will sweep as trash to the dump of temporary workers
    Who is ready to sell the homeland for a penny again!
    We are brothers, we’ll figure it out, and we will live together
    Russia and Ukraine will never be divided forever!
    1. klopik
      klopik April 3 2014 17: 38
      +7
      Your words yes to God in your ears!
    2. klopik
      klopik April 3 2014 17: 38
      +1
      Your words yes to God in your ears!
  27. inkass_98
    inkass_98 April 3 2014 11: 00
    +8
    After all, Yulia herself declared that 15 Krymov would be waiting for Ruin if the whole world urgently did not unite and give money and weapons to her personally. Since sponsors have not yet lined up, it’s time for a political disabled person to assign the title of the most accurate predictor in Ukrainian history.
    1. ermolai
      ermolai April 3 2014 15: 02
      +5
      and her fat ended? what kind of weapon is she? atomic? it’s clear with the money; she always lacks it. new breaks ahead
  28. Cristall
    Cristall April 3 2014 12: 00
    +12
    Without defeating the Ministry of Internal Affairs and VV - there would be no new Maidan. Without 5 billion and huge help. Now tighten the nuts of the National Guard. Obviously, this will be the confrontation of New Maidan against Old Maidan. There will be no chance to win the new ..
    Poroshenko is an oligarch. Yesterday I listened to his program. Nothing new. Return Crimea, to the EU, otherwise dialogue with the Russian Federation. An oligarch to take something from him. Do not forget that he is the sponsor of the Maidan.
    Although maybe he will buy a vote. or CEC
    Candidates for rapprochement with the Russian Federation have already become actively portrayed as Putin’s proteges of the aggressor. I don’t know what they will have chances with such a media.
    In our heads there is such a mess .. that sometimes we ourselves don’t know who and what to choose. Here the mind is already clouded.
    I drew myself a roughly diagram for whom I would vote for (Tsarev or Simonenko), but damn it Ukraine ... The country itself is democratic in vsesviti! Here is the "zoo of democracy"
  29. Kristoff
    Kristoff April 3 2014 12: 01
    +2
    I would like to hope that the authorities will continue to conduct a competent policy. Apparently Transnistria and Nagorno-Karabakh will continue to pinch. There is a feeling that the next ones I will promote peaceful democracy will be.
    Forum participants, what do you think, how long will all this hysteria last with sanctions / bans, etc.?
  30. vovan50
    vovan50 April 3 2014 12: 19
    +9
    "Guys, whatever you want, you need to take Zaporozhye! I have relatives there."
    And I have relatives of the White Church and they also want "Home", something will happen.
  31. fisherman
    fisherman April 3 2014 12: 27
    +9
    There are two godfathers on the Maidan in front of the dry closet
    “Kume, why is the letter F on the toilet?”
    - So probably for the Jews
    - And the letter M?
    - That’s for her
    “And where are we, true patriots?”
    - Kume, we are the owners of our Nenko Ukraine, so we can there, wherever we want.
  32. maxxdesign
    maxxdesign April 3 2014 12: 52
    +7
    these banderlogs with the size of a lizard’s brain are spinning near Ukrainian nuclear power plants .. it’s scary to think if these deer break something in the operation of the reactors and the whole world expects Chernobyl squared ... it already threatens the whole world with a nuclear catastrophe
    1. asar
      asar April 3 2014 13: 09
      +3
      Well then, I suspect this will be the last day for the Banderlog! The West will then "tear them like a hot water bottle"!
  33. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik April 3 2014 13: 03
    +3
    We wanted the space, got it in full! Now absolutely free and independent! I don’t think it’s better, but what further time will tell!
  34. wax
    wax April 3 2014 13: 11
    +5
    The EU and the US are not going to feed more than forty million people in Ukraine. Their task is maximum chaos and let Russia rake. But Russia will not do this, especially if the defense industry of Ukraine collapses. So everything will return to the issue of Ukraine joining (in its entirety) in the CU.
    1. maxon106
      maxon106 April 3 2014 14: 08
      +3
      And we need it?
    2. 52 site
      52 site April 5 2014 22: 13
      -1
      We don’t need to feed, the main thing is to get rid of corruption. Then we can do without Russia, and without the West.
  35. Sevastopol
    Sevastopol April 3 2014 14: 01
    +26
    Annexia - violent adherencee by the state of all or part of the territory of another state unilaterally.

    I live in Sevastopol, participated in self-defense as a civil unarmed person. He was at checkpoints, on duty, in. including participated in the picketing of the headquarters of the Ukrainian Navy.
    I participated as an official observer in a referendum at one of the largest polling stations in the city.

    I have not seen violence. Generally. I have not seen violations at the elections. I saw only people who left the polling station and at the exit, answering the question of the exit poll, with tears of happiness in their eyes, they said: "Of course Russia. No matter what, we hoped and believed that we will see this moment during our lifetime." ...
    I saw a city decorated with Russian flags. each house has several flags. all around the city. I saw happy citizens, I saw several days in a row a holiday in the city. what the hell is violence?

    The element of violence is integral to the concept of annexation. He was absent. Moreover, an absolutely honest and transparent referendum was held, where an unprecedented overwhelming majority of voters supported joining Russia. 96,77% is a real figure. I emphasize the real one. How can we talk about forced access? this is what, excuse me, cattle hypocritical need to be?
    1. sled beach
      sled beach April 3 2014 15: 02
      +6
      Imagine, feel, and understand! And this beast is fighting for human rights (forgetting to say that this is their man) calling itself a world democracy.
    2. klopik
      klopik April 3 2014 17: 41
      +6
      I am sincerely glad for you! when will we in the southeast get to this ?!
      1. dustycat
        dustycat April 5 2014 14: 14
        0
        Quote: klopik
        when will we in the southeast get to this ?!


        As soon as you create self-defense forces from Berkut and place cordons on the western border of your regions.
        Otherwise never.
        Death squads from Black Water of "honest peacemaker" Palmer are already in Ukraine.
      2. 52 site
        52 site April 5 2014 22: 21
        0
        It was necessary to reach earlier: when Yanyk was brought to power with his pack. Did they milk you a little? So you still gave him power over all of Ukraine.
    3. yur
      yur April 4 2014 00: 36
      +5
      Quote: Sevastopolets
      from the polling station and at the exit, answering the question of the exit poll, they said with tears of happiness in their eyes: "Of course, Russia. No matter what
      I live in Russia (yes, I live it), the last time I was in Crimea 38 years ago, but when they called the figure 97%, I also had tears in my eyes. I thank the Lord for letting me live this happiness.
    4. 52 site
      52 site April 5 2014 22: 19
      -1
      And of course, you have not seen the "green men", which, according to Putin, were not there at all? There can be no honest referendum at gunpoint. The results of voting in Sevastopol are especially real - 123% !!! Chechens also once voted "with tears of happiness." And it ended in completely different tears. By the way, in Russia, such referendums face criminal punishment.
  36. Gato
    Gato April 3 2014 14: 09
    +8
    But therefore, and what will happen next, we can assume that today too few people expect.

    Gee, on the Ukrainian Channel 5, the local "ANALITIKI" know very well:
    "The next in line are the Baltic countries and Finland, then we should expect the landing of Russian troops on Spitsbergen and Greenland" 11 !!! belay laughing
    When I heard - rolled down under the table ... and it was not April 1, but already 2nd.
    No, I am not against such a development of events. But why Svalbard ?? belay
    Capture the Doomsday global seed store? laughing
    1. Sevastopol
      Sevastopol April 3 2014 14: 24
      +6
      on the 5th Ukrainian channel this is still not visible)) 100% hysterical absurdity, moreover, reaching the level of a serious degree of schizophrenia.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker April 3 2014 14: 53
        +12
        Quote: Sevastopolets
        on the 5th Ukrainian channel this is still not visible)) 100% hysterical absurdity, moreover, reaching the level of a serious degree of schizophrenia.

        Law of History "Tragedies are repeated in the form of farce ...".
        World history has never known such a farce "I Believe - I Don't Believe". The level of LIE by officials of the EU and the US literally goes beyond reasonable limits, moving to the level of hysterical schizophrenia presented by the Western media under the guise of "defending freedoms and democracies." PERSONAL INSURANCE of the heads of state is used, which is voiced live in the presence of officials!
        1. 52 site
          52 site April 5 2014 22: 26
          0
          They are very far from the Russian media
    2. tolancop
      tolancop April 3 2014 15: 14
      +3
      About Svalbard is especially funny ... And the analogy with the Crimea, by the way, is. If memory serves, then on the Spitz, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are present in a small amount (at one time, in any case, they were kept for a blazera, so that the Norwegians of Spitz would not finally declare their territory).
      And with Greenland in general it’s not even funny ...
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker April 3 2014 21: 05
        +2
        Quote: tolancop
        About Svalbard is especially funny ...

        Quote: tolancop
        And with Greenland in general it’s not even funny ...

        Not funny...
        "That-oh-onky hint" of Norway and Denmark.
    3. 52 site
      52 site April 5 2014 22: 25
      0
      It’s just that on our Channel 5 all politicians can speak: communists, regionals, nationalists, socialists. And they are free to express their opinion. We take this normally, but for Russia, where you can only maintain power on TV, it really sounds wild.
    4. Drshan
      Drshan April 8 2014 00: 16
      0
      Yes, the Finns are unlikely to take it right. Everything is clear with the Baltic states - they will hold on to the Russians and get their anti-Maidan. And Svalbard - there are very good mines. The original name is Grumant. Quote from Wikipedia:
      "Significant, by Arctic standards, economic activity on the archipelago, in addition to Norway, according to the special status of the archipelago, is carried out only by the Russian Federation, which has a Russian settlement on the island of Western Spitsbergen - the village of Barentsburg, as well as the mothballed villages of Pyramida and Grumant"
  37. sinukvl
    sinukvl April 3 2014 14: 53
    +11
    Yes, it seems Maidan was blown away, Banderlog pouted! The fact that Ukraine as a state ceases to exist is a fact.
    1. klopik
      klopik April 3 2014 17: 43
      +11
      that's it - one endless election .... under-state ... 23 years one continuous theater of the absurd
    2. 52 site
      52 site April 5 2014 22: 27
      -1
      No need to wishful thinking.
  38. Farvil
    Farvil April 3 2014 15: 04
    +4
    Wherever Jews spit around, even next to the Nazis, they breed the whole world like suckers, rubbing their hands with the pleasure of realizing their plans for taxiing the whole world.
  39. sled beach
    sled beach April 3 2014 15: 08
    +1
    One thing is clear, if our government by all means and at the very least does not begin to ruin the economy of the United States, they will get us sooner or later, they will impose us so that our mother does not worry, they won’t leave room for maneuver, not just the possibility of choice!
  40. tolancop
    tolancop April 3 2014 15: 09
    +7
    . And the thesis that Crimea has restrained Moscow all these years is very controversial. It is much more likely that, no matter how bitterly admit it, Russia all the time put on the wrong horse and did not work properly with the population.
    To be quite straightforward, the Russian Federation has profiled Ukraine. Now we are reaping the benefits ... Crimea is a pearl with a pro-Russian population. Mainland Ukraine is a fruit with a fair amount of rot. The population is largely brainwashed. Industry and social services are in decline. The country has a lot of debts. Taking it in its current state is to make yourself tremendous problems. Until in the brain of the population of the lumen there is no need to go there "in the forehead". It is necessary to come when they will really WAIT for us there. And come carefully, otherwise you can overstrain.
    1. Anatolich
      Anatolich April 3 2014 15: 54
      +4
      And if we don’t poke around now then it will be even worse, the younger generation is already lost, then it will only get worse.
    2. Grandfather Victor
      Grandfather Victor April 3 2014 19: 16
      +1
      That's right!
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    4. nomad74
      nomad74 April 3 2014 23: 23
      +4
      Quote: tolancop
      . You need to come when they will really WAIT for us there. And come carefully, otherwise you can tear yourself up.


      All right, comrade writes, his problems are full! And then they’ll also call them acupants, it’s worth a little wait! And they will call us!
      1. dustycat
        dustycat April 5 2014 14: 24
        +2
        Quote: nomad74
        worth a little wait! And they will call us!


        But expecting to set the stage for propaganda.
        And not soviet cheers, idiotic, but professional, competent.
        In the textbooks, Petliurists write Russophobian nonsense - to fill up with information about real history.
        So that everyone who in nezalezhnoy nenka about this or that historical event searches for something on the Internet or social networks (including those closed to "foreigners" - there are already such), then always find a real non-Russophobic description, and not Petliura-Bandera nonsense.
    5. Suvorov
      Suvorov April 4 2014 22: 43
      +4
      The Russian Federation underestimated the "national factor" not only in Ukraine, but throughout the entire post-Soviet space. When Russians and Russian speakers were expelled, forced to renounce their own identity, and in some places they were killed, Russia hardly intervened, believing that these were "internal affairs" of sovereign fraternal countries. Perhaps the Kremlin was afraid to completely alienate the former Soviet republics, while the national elites needed to "assert themselves" and prove their "coolness" in the eyes of their peoples. Naturally, it was easiest to do this at the expense of the Russians (as former "occupiers", whose protection their ethnic homeland actually refused). Russia was not strong enough, vulnerable and financially, economically dependent on "external forces." Now, I hope that this "complex" has been overcome, which means that the Russian policy towards compatriots in the republics of the former USSR will be different. Long live the "Russian spring"!
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  41. rocketman
    rocketman April 3 2014 15: 26
    +4
    Only one thing is not clear - through the word "Bandera Ukraine". Well, just like a zombie. Ukraine is not Bandera. There are some Bandera members, but they are not "all of Ukraine."
    1. Hamul
      Hamul April 3 2014 15: 56
      +9
      "Bandera Ukraine". Well, just like a zombie. Ukraine is not Bandera. There are some Bandera members, but they are not "all of Ukraine."

      Dear, there are much more good people than bad ones, but in view of the activities of the latter, the opposite opinion is being created, because their actions are constantly in sight. Also here. Of course, there are much fewer banderlogs, of course, people with the brightest thoughts came to the Maidan -NO! with good intentions the road is paved only to Hell.
    2. svd-xnumx
      svd-xnumx April 3 2014 23: 28
      +2
      in Germany, too, not all were fascists at first, and what happened?
    3. dustycat
      dustycat April 5 2014 14: 31
      +1
      Quote: rocketman
      There are some Bandera members, but they are not "all of Ukraine"


      As long as they loyally await permission for a referendum from the new "government" and endure their madness and allow Bandera and their loyal policemen to take out their anti-Maidan leaders one by one for reprisal, there is no difference.

      The course towards tough destruction of any anti-Maidan shares in Kiev is unambiguous.
      These are not for you Yanukovych - they won’t flirt around - they will give the order to finish off easily, naturally and without flinching.
      And at the same time remain the defenders of democracy.

      The most heinous betrayal is the tacit expectation of what will happen next when it is already clear what will happen.
    4. Polarfox
      Polarfox April 9 2014 16: 26
      0
      And so it is not about the whole of Ukraine, but about its Bandera part. I have relatives and friends there, normal, adequate people, dream of one thing - so that soon this nonsense ends. A Crimean friend says that his mother was crying with joy when the results of the referendum were announced. By the way, the Ukrainian family.
  42. Anatolich
    Anatolich April 3 2014 15: 47
    +8
    Helmut Schmidt, ex-Chancellor of Germany, an old man already, can afford to tell the truth: "The West in the place of Russia would act today in exactly the same way."
    The West and the United States in place of Russia would act brazenly and decisively. They are generally in place, but we are in our own defense and defense. They returned their Crimea and rejoice, like they won. And we won only a small battle, let's hope that not the last.
    1. svd-xnumx
      svd-xnumx April 3 2014 21: 53
      +2
      I PRESENT the French in Canada decided to take power for themselves, they staged a "maidan", we don't want NATO to shout, Lukashevich is distributing bagels and giving tea. Everybody runs to the Russian Embassy for "consultations." horseradish. knows which state.
  43. serge
    serge April 3 2014 16: 24
    +8
    Crimeans will soon have a new attraction - tourists will be shown the Ukrainian army. For some money, the tourist will be able to feed the Ukrainian soldier !!!
    1. dustycat
      dustycat April 5 2014 14: 36
      0
      This attraction is already on the entire frontier.
      Even Sienan and the BBC have already shown the bestowing warriors of the unshackled nenki fed and shoeed by the local population.
  44. DimDimych
    DimDimych April 3 2014 16: 27
    +7
    So what is likelihood of a sane choice Ukraine? She is very small ...

    Yes, what kind of "sanity" can we talk about - in the Maidan-country ...
    1. 52 site
      52 site April 5 2014 22: 30
      0
      Yanukovych split Ukraine, who, together with his mongrels, sucked out everything that was possible from the country.
      1. vtnsk
        vtnsk April 6 2014 03: 30
        0
        Quote: 52 plot
        Yanukovych split Ukraine, who, together with his mongrels, sucked out everything that was possible from the country.


        He also built a pigsty in Kiev (on the Maidan)? laughing
  45. homosum20
    homosum20 April 3 2014 17: 09
    +1
    Nothing's over yet. May 26 elections in Ukraine. Oh, and it will explode ...
    1. dustycat
      dustycat April 5 2014 14: 41
      +1
      Quote: homosum20
      Oh, and it will explode ...


      What and who?
      There is nothing and the efforts of the police, the SBU and the "Academy" have no one.
      The real cans have already been reversed and locked up.
      What remains is shelupon.
  46. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro April 3 2014 17: 24
    +2
    <<< And without Nostradamus it is clear: Ukraine is waiting for a new "Crimea" ... >>>
    And, of course, "polite people"! After all, you need to help the people put on a straitjacket on Bandera thugs!
  47. Sanyht
    Sanyht April 3 2014 17: 46
    +5
    in the outskirts, even without machine gun barrels - to conduct a REFERENDUM -not going !!! PEOPLE'S OPINION DOESN'T CARE PRETENDENTS ON THE GOLD TOILET AT THE DEEPENED TUB ???
  48. mig31
    mig31 April 3 2014 17: 48
    +3
    Childish "surprise" will soon manifest itself among the heroes of the Maidan, and among their owners, and among today's Rada. It is interesting when everything will fall into place, and the people will ask who was where and what they did, in times of turmoil, and he asks, here it will be an Unexpected !!!
    1. salamandra2826
      salamandra2826 April 3 2014 19: 17
      +3
      "Without backing, I will hide my hut"
  49. homosum20
    homosum20 April 3 2014 18: 00
    +1
    Thank God! We look forward to May 26th.
  50. Grandfather Victor
    Grandfather Victor April 3 2014 19: 12
    +6
    "What remains in this situation for Russia? Do what it does."
    And also: to provide accelerated industrial and scientific-technical development and GDP growth of 8-10% or more per year, regardless of the state of the world economy. For which, in particular:
    - abolish the enslaving conditions of entry into the WTO;
    - introduce a confiscation tax on capital exported from the country, as well as on income and profits not invested in the development of the economy (exceeding the established limit for personal consumption);
    - use effective international experience in the creation of anti-corruption legislation and its law enforcement practice.
    Otherwise, a surge in success in foreign policy will turn into a soap bubble.