Personal reasoning about joining the Crimea

The accession of the Crimea. Advantages and disadvantages…

Pros. We have forever closed the topic of a military base in Sevastopol. The overwhelming majority of the population of the Crimea with shouts of “Hurray” and throwing their caps into the air turned out to be where all the 23 years of occupation wanted to be and where we all are. The whole world saw that Russia could not cope with weapons. You can not even start. We clearly saw who is a friend to Russia, who is an enemy, and who is a partner. Friend: Nicaragua. Enemies: Europe, USA, Japan, Australia, etc. These are precisely enemies, and there will be no peace for them until they destroy Russia.

Partners: China, India and a number of rather significant states. So say, regional powers. Found that there is no fraternal Ukrainian people. The people have something, but certainly not fraternal. There are a number of Ukrainians, not bad for Russia, but no more.

More pluses? And no. Delights from the sanctions and the joy of one thought that the Russian industry will begin to develop independently, ended. No serious sanctions, no development. And it would hardly be. We have no workers. Nobody hands to do. And those that are ... live their own.

The payment system of domestic production, according to Gref, can be ready in six months. But we know that in six months you can poher and larger projects.

Minuses. Oh ho ho!

The first. The whole world saw: Russians throw theirs. As always. How thrown Serbs 15 years ago. How did you betray yourself in 91? How left now Little Russia. March 2 President received permission in the event of a threat to the Russian troops in Ukraine. There is a threat, and already real, where are the troops? What if only there was no war? As in 1938 Chamberlain in Munich. We called it the betrayal of Czechoslovakia, and what is happening now? And this is WAR! The war with the Nazis, and there can be no compromise, as there was no them with Hitler in 1945.

The second one. Russia exchanged a military base for a powerful industrial center, for the ports of the Black Sea, at the Nikolaev shipyard, which will never build ships for the Black Sea fleet. We have lost 20 million friendly people. One can be comforted by the fact that they could be left without everything.

Third. The elite, no matter what patriotic slogans they hide behind, easily betray the people even under the mere threat of sanctions. The dollar is more important than dignity and honor!

Most of the countries and peoples of the former USSR and Eastern Europe hate us. Well, they can not love and respect the people who betrayed their country, betrayed himself.

Maybe I exaggerate? Then correct me!

Comments

[hhhhhhh]

It's not us so bad. Our problem is that we are too many and we got such natural resources. They consider this not fair (Albright) and that 5 million is enough to service the pipe (Thatcher M.) And we never give up.
We are long civilized. We already eat with a spoon and a fork.))))

[smel]

Author!! No one will rule you. Or it is necessary to educate. Or treat !!!

[Salamander]

Hands off our Crimea!

[user]

Something is a little shitty.
Our President has a tremendous respect for the combination (in the truth is not entirely clear how he managed it) in the big game. Even the bet on the Tatars and that failed (this is a class of diplomacy). Well, as for the southeast, the situation there is not ripe today (precisely from the side of local residents), they are divided, there are no leaders, therefore there is no program of action, therefore there are corresponding results (by the way, not only on the occasion of joining Russia, but also Russian language as a state and federal structure within Ukraine).
I think everyone sees it, not just me. But the road to Russia is always open for them.

[GDP]

1. To send troops to the south-east of Ukraine NOW, even if you have the go-ahead from Yanukovych, the whole world will look like direct aggression, the consequences can be very sad, we can lose good relations with the countries of Central Asia and Belarus, lose money invested in Europe and the United States and that’s almost half a trillion dollars ... But even this isn’t the most important thing, the entry of troops into Ukraine will almost certainly end in a civil war - they will expose Russia ... only after this civil war really begins, as it It happened in Ossetia, we will be able to send troops to protect the population of the southeast. Then there will also be sanctions, but we will have a reinforced concrete cause and the truth will already be on our side. No one dares to accuse us of inciting a civil war ...

2. We do not help the southeast enough in terms of organizing, financing pro-Russian structures, searching for and supporting leaders - this is true ... We will not do this - the opposition will simply be crushed ...

3. Russians do not abandon their own. It seems to me that Putin is simply trying to keep the west and the self-proclaimed authorities of Ukraine in suspense, either to make them begin to agree on the fate of the Southeast, in order to bargain for them the maximum number of pluses, or provoke new stupid things to give us additional leverage.

[CALL.]

Article with rotten.

There are a number of Ukrainians who relate well to Russia, but no more.

There are no Russian-speaking Ukrainians. There are Russians living in Ukraine.
In 1917, the Central KRADA personally attributed to Ukraine, contrary to agreements with the Provisional Government: - Yekaterinoslav, Kherson, Tauride, Kharkov (Slobozhanshchina) and partially Chernigov (Severshchina) provinces. After the October Revolution, silently, compared to the Provisional Instructions of the Provisional Government this time, the Circumstances considerably expanded the area of ​​its own jurisdiction. Unconditionally declared Ukraine not only Kiev, Podolsk, Volyn, Poltava and the whole Chernihiv province, but also Yekaterinoslav, Kharkov, Kherson and Tauride. Like this: - Everything to sebe. The Russian provinces chopped off and their eyes bully innocently: - Hands off Okraina.

[dark_65]

The author is rare: either, or an anal rogue.

[Dimkapvo]

The author is an ordinary provocateur. Not interesting and stupid. Belolentochnik.

[Mitek]

Alexander, you are exaggerating the colors and you are wrong. In Ukraine, a whole generation grew up that did not remember the USSR. And they were pumped up with "patriotism" about "great" Ukraine. They do not know and they are not told that everything that can be proud of has been achieved within the USSR. Are you ready to shoot them and then look their parents in the eye? I have a war behind me, but I'm not ready for that. If Bandera climb to the South-East and South-East RISE, and will not sit in front of the TV, we will come. But there is no one to go to yet. There are no serious performances. People are sitting at home. The junta are slowly putting their people on the line, and in a serious way, NOBODY objects. GDP can wait. Instead of the death of our and Ukrainian soldiers (and for me we are brothers), GDP will wait for the economic consequences of the rule of scent and Co.

[buzuke]

crying yaroslavl simply! Dear author, we must carry our leadership in our hands, which did not fall asleep at the right time and sharply moved our interests. I don’t know who you left, but as for me all around have been given a clear signal that Crimea is only the beginning

[Duelist]

Author! Just the opposite!
Russia has shown that it is no longer as weak as in the "Kosovo" conflict. That she protects the Russians, and that she is ready to defend her geopolitical interests, is the country's security. Further: we now know for certain who is who. Including completely debunked the true plans of the American missile defense system, a real violation of the agreements on NATO's eastward advance. And most importantly, NOT RUSSIA overthrew the legitimate government in Ukraine and the WEST! So who is the aggressor? As for the Crimea, if not for Russia, the war would have started there - too tidbit. We are not introducing troops into Ukraine because we do not need enemies represented by our Ukrainian brothers. Russia will not fight in Ukraine, maximum protection of the civilian population from real aggressors and radicals, from the junta. If this were not so, then tanks would have been driving across Ukraine for a long time. Do we need it?

[predator.3]

. On March 2, the president received permission in case of a threat to the Russians to send troops to Ukraine. There is a threat, and already real, where are the troops? What if there was no war?

Dear Author, as always, you jumped on the railroad ties in front of the engine, why the war, everything will fall into place over time, how could someone allow the thought on February 21 that in 3 weeks Crimea will be part of the Russian Federation, and most importantly without a single shot!

[seller trucks]

Your reasoning at the fifth grader level, Let's talk about everything in order:
Pluses, here you write that there is no base besides the Sevastopol base, it’s fundamentally wrong, besides Sevastopol there are about five or more or less ports: Yalta is more for tourists, Kerch has control over shipping in the Kerch Strait, thereby complete control over the Sea of ​​Azov , the issue of territorial claims of Ukraine has been resolved forever. In principle, the annexation of Crimea to Russia will provide an opportunity to develop the structure as a major marine trade logistics cluster, all the conditions for this exist. Yevpatoriya port, cargo handling from Istanbul and building sand, in addition, I admit that China will refuse to build a deep-water mega-port, for what purposes it was written, everyone is interested in anyway including and Ukraine will agree. Feodosia - the entire flow of building materials, petroleum products, containers and more, with railway and auto structure.
The following, agricultural, as a Crimean I declare that under Ukraine everything was poher. I mean, huge, apple, peach orchards, that is, without a margin at all, melon, grapes, cereals, durum wheat, and rice (awesome). I read somewhere that for export this is all a little-known exotic, I would like to object that even if this is so for domestic consumption, that’s it.
Next, tourism, well, probably a couple of years there will be a recession, but this time can be spent on creating a full-fledged infrastructure, which in the Crimea, since the days of the USSR, no one has been involved.
Another important shipbuilding:
Sevastopol Marine Plant, Sevastopol - has been engaged in shipbuilding and ship repair since 1783 of the year.
Shipyard "South Sevastopol", Sevastopol.
Shipbuilding Plant "More", town. Primorsky, Feodosia - specializes in hydrofoil and hovercraft.
Shipyard "Bay", the city of Kerch.
Kerch Shipyard, Kerch.
13 ship repair plant of the Black Sea Fleet of the Ministry of Defense of Russia, Sevastopol.
Shipyard "Valm", Sevastopol.
Design and Technology Bureau "Sudokompozit", Feodosia
Theodosia Shipbuilding Plant, Feodosia
Fiberglass, Feodosia
Special industrial and technical base "Flame", town. Primorsky, the city of Feodosia - production of ship fire systems.
Central Design Bureau "Chernomorets", Sevastopol
the final lot will have to be restored, so what to do?
Well, minerals

Crimea, oil: 10 fields, 1 is being developed, reserves of 5,1 million tons
gas: 23 2 108,3 billion m3

Chemistry:
Crimean soda plant, Krasnoperekopsk - provides 2,5% of the global market for soda ash.
Crimean Titan, Armyansk is the largest producer of titanium dioxide in Eastern Europe. Among other things, titanium dioxide is widely known as white pigment in building enamels.
Perekopsky bromine plant (PJSC "Brom"), Krasnoperekopsk - produces bromine and its compounds.

well this is such a cursory review

[seller trucks]

PS, it is worth noting that South Stream will be shorter and cheaper

[Stanislas]

Quote: seller trucks

South Stream will be shorter and cheaper

If the Romanians do not want Transnistria for it.

[valerei]

Quote: seller trucks

seller trucks (1) Today, 10:26 ↑

Thanks for the "quick review". Finally, the Crimean cut through. And then all some muddy "political" conversations around, and around. And, nevertheless, in vain the author of the article was torn off his pants to the back pocket. In many ways (not in all), but he is right, and for this it is enough to remember our recent past, if, of course, there is something to remember. Euphoria, gentlemen bloggers, will soon pass and there will come, already coming, harsh everyday life. And we, ordinary citizens of Russia, and not the "Abramovichs" and "Serdyukovs" will have to tighten the belts on our trousers, by the way, the author also said this. Money must be invested in Crimea, and capital, as it fled to "Cyprus", is still running and no one wants to stop it. "Where is the money, Zin?" And the money - everyone says - will come from the Russian stabilization fund and, therefore, state-owned! One thing warms the soul that they will be taken out of the American economy, but then? When will they invest somewhere, who will use the results? Just do not need to say that this will be the "property of the Russian people." An example is Sochi. And the state money was spent (and stolen) and a lot was built for the glory of our sport, but whose is it all? People's? The question is rhetorical. An analogy is brewing in Crimea as well. No, I am not against the Crimea and helping it and its development, only you need to look at things with a sober look, after the bubbles from the Crimean champagne have disappeared from your brains. In many ways, the author of the article wanted to say about this. And you are his cons! Not good, somehow.

[polite people]

Thanks for the optimistic help.
Are there many vineyards?

[seller trucks]

With the vineyards, not all good, many have cut down and not only wine varieties, but also dining rooms. On the South Coast, incl. and in Massandra they cut down and gave the area for cottage development, I read somewhere that in comparison with 1991, the total area was reduced by almost half (!). Viticulture in Crimea is a separate song, many varieties are unique, I will note two: Muscat growing in the village of Krasnokamenka (urban village Gurzuf), a plot of several hundred square meters. meters with a unique microclimate (50m. to the side is no longer suitable), Red Stone Muscat wine, and the second, Ekim Kara wine, Black Doctor wine, in general Crimean wines, are famous to a greater extent as dessert, because a lot of sugar.
I sincerely hope that everyone settles down

[aleks700]

Pluses, here you write that there is no base besides the Sevastopol base, it’s fundamentally wrong, besides Sevastopol there are about five or more or less ports: Yalta is more for tourists, Kerch has control over shipping in the Kerch Strait, thereby complete control over the Sea of ​​Azov , the issue of territorial claims of Ukraine has been resolved forever.

Well? Is the issue with territorial claims resolved? Who has full control over the Sea of ​​Azov? SAMI run goats in the garden

.Other important shipbuilding:

Kherson, Nikolaev are lost! Lost shipbuilding program! Now it’s clear who is right. It’s not bad that they took Crimea, it’s bad that they abandoned everything else. About this and the article.

[cyberhanter]

Russia will show that it is not weak, if it preserves the whole Ukraine and makes it one hundred percent loyal to itself - this is an indicator that Russia is strong

[seller trucks]

the point of no return is passed, Ukraine is already not interesting to anyone, impoverished and armed, so it’s worth accepting: flies from cutlets separately

[Amur]

Quote: hhhhhhh

It's not us so bad. ...........
We are long civilized. We already eat with a spoon and a fork.))))

Right now we are living in Crimea and swallow Donbas and Kharkov, but you need to chew thoroughly ...
To the minus author.

[aleks700]

Swallowed?

[aleks 62]

.... We already eat with a spoon and a fork ....
... We learned to eat with a spoon even when the "enlightened" Europe raked with her hands from pots ...

[dmitriygorshkov]

Quote: aleks 62

.... We already eat with a spoon and a fork ....
... We learned to eat with a spoon even when the "enlightened" Europe raked with her hands from pots ...

And in romantic times, Dartanyanov, and much later, poured night pots from the windows onto the streets! This is so, a trifle! But it is not pleasant.
I would like to see what would be done with someone who would do so in Russia

[Ross]

Maybe I exaggerate? Then correct me!

But nothing has ended! To draw conclusions early. Dance with a tambourine in Ukraine continues.
How many impatience many of us have ... Politics is not a fleeting battle. But such an adder, rassoroshanny in Ukraine, for a month can not be disassembled.

[Orenglor]

"Most of the countries and peoples of the former USSR and Eastern Europe hate us."

Did you just find out about this? Because Russia has huge resources and territories, the whole world hates us, and for a very long time

[Grenader]

Quote: Orenglor

Maybe I exaggerate? Then correct me!

You do not exaggerate, you distort the facts. We simply had no choice. Either they will kick us out of the Black Sea, or we will return Crimea, illegally occupied by Ukraine. If we had dropped our hands, we would not have loved us any more. And what does the love of peoples for Russia mean? Bulgarians "love" us very much, they walk with Russian flags at demonstrations, but they are stepping up the activities of the NATO Air Force in connection with the events in Crimea. America is hated by most countries in the world, nevertheless, this does not prevent it from pursuing a profitable economic policy.

[Anper]

Quote: Grenader

you distort the facts.

And constantly.
The whole world saw: Russians abandon their.
And right there
The overwhelming majority of the population of Crimea ... turned out to be where all 23 years of occupation wanted to be
So Russians throw their own or not?

[aleks700]

The author, I think, is not opposed to the return of Crimea, he is for the return of the entire south-west.

[aleks700]

Yes, the point is not to not annex Crimea, but to push Bandera’s slavery into the den!

[Consmo]

And who do they love, please announce the whole list?

[Combitor]

Quote: Orenglor

Because Russia has huge resources and territories, the whole world hates us,

We are not only hated abroad. We are hated in our country. The "Fifth Column" does not give up its hopes that the West will "punish" Russia. Its commanders and activists, each in his own way, to the best of his imagination, talks about what awaits our country in the future. Crimea is now the most demanded topic. So in the "Daily Journal" again one of its "regulars-authors" A. Golts gave birth to another opus (excerpt):
<COOPERATION IS ENDED. CONTAINMENT STARTED
APRIL 2, 2014, ALEXANDER GOLTZ “DAILY MAGAZINE”
… Here is what is curious. For many years, Putin and others have proved that the main threat to the security of our country comes from the expansion of NATO and the deployment of its bases near the Russian borders. All these years there has been no deployment. And now Russia will receive everything in full: military bases on the border, the build-up of the alliance's troops, the inclusion of new countries in the bloc. And all as a result of Russia's remarkable victory in Crimea ...>
The author "regrets" that NATO has stopped its military "cooperation" with us and blames Russia for all the troubles. And it does not reach his venal brains that if Crimea had not gone home to Russia, then there would already be full of NATO fighters there, and in the near future NATO bases, both "land" and naval, would appear on the peninsula. That is, what the "fifth column" dreams of would become reality.
And now they have a "bummer". So they are furious.

[avt]

Quote: Kombitor

We are not only hated abroad. We are hated in our country. The "Fifth Column" does not give up its hopes that the West will "punish" Russia. Its commanders and activists, each in his own way, to the best of his imagination, talks about what awaits our country in the future.

And most importantly, voluptuously and impatiently in a sadomasochistic impulse they expect from the "bloody GBShny regime of VVP" again, well, at least some kind of "bloody brutal atrocities" against Ukraine, but there are none! Yes, and such a peaceful bummer in the Crimea! Inevitably, you yell. How can a grant be used to fight back against “Putin’s bloody vertical line?” So they include now and then a fool, now calls about “abandoned and betrayed”.

[DMB-78]

Yes, we did not leave anyone !!! we cannot be aggressors. and nobody has asked for help yet.

[Fox]

Serbs thrown? Ukrainians thrown? author, wake up already! THEM YOU DO NOT NEED ANYTHING !!! or does the author really want my SON to save Ukrainians? what would they shoot him in the back? not ... thanks, dear. Ukraine itself crap , and it’s not Russia that should erase the ports! FOR YOURSELF! Only for yourself.

[PPL]

... the author really wants ...

The article turned out to be provocative, it is one thing to exclaim pathetically about the inability to save their own kind, and another to incite the army to be used in countries that themselves cannot understand what they want.

We have lost 20 million friendly people.

It seems to me that using weapons can not be made friends! You will forcibly take part, and then listen that everything is wrong, it used to be better, etc. Do we need it? Who wanted, he decided (I'm talking about the Crimea).

[Alekseev]

Quote: PPZ

The article turned out to be provocative,

Yes, provocative nonsense.
Reasoned, delaput, who are the enemies, who are friends, as if it is not clear that in international relations no special friends, no enemies. А have interests. And a number of countries have no interest in arguing with the United States. They are their vassals. They are afraid of them.
The friendly population is only partly industry, which is often a competitor to Russian factories, and it is now, and other speculations.
We must say, faster pile on the Russian Federation a bunch, but not that something ... , but a bunch of problems. The USSR collapsed from such and such problems. Contained half the world ...
In my opinion, the blunt criticism in the article is especially for the seed of discussion. To activate the process on the site, so to speak.

[avt]

Quote: Alekseev

Yes, provocative nonsense.

Here I would divide it into two parts. First, the author really believes in what he is writing, and second, he openly provokes. But in the first and second cases, clear work is visible, a kind of counter-attack on Russia's success in Crimea. Well, just remember how they mobilized the entire grant-eating and progressive-thinking intelligentsia, they even took them out into the street in Moscow under Bandera flags and shouted their chants. Oh, you liked the Olympiad and the constructed objects were actually presented, but such that you forgot about the cost of the Olympiad? Well, here's a new one - we lost the pension fund in Crimea. Didn't it scare you? Zer gut, but how is such a call - Crimea, which actually organized itself and voted, polite people did not come to an empty place, you got it, but the rest were “betrayed.” Well, how? intelligentsia "will be if they see that they are hooked? Drop everything and don't think about anything repent! Repent, you sons of bitches, as you were forced in the 90s for the USSR and wanted to make you repent even for the Victory of the 45th, declaring all the descendants of the warmongers and rapists over the peaceful German population and tearfully, on your knees, thank you that you have not yet been put on trial for bringing the Hitler couple to suicide. Something like that . Simple and tasteful, and most importantly, the material should be presented in such a way that neither the horns nor the tail of the waiter could be seen, so that it seems like an individual suddenly "regained his sight", they say, really, as I hadn't guessed before. , and it is better to tell everyone on the Internet right away, at the same time we will cry and repent all together. themselves mocked in self-deprecation.

[valerei]

Quote: Alekseev

In my opinion, the blunt criticism in the article is especially for the seed of discussion. To activate the process on the site, so to speak.

Interesting thought and conclusion! Considering that any site of this type is created to make money, then everything is correct. And we pull our throats! We insult each other, but what's the point? Nobody reads us anyway, except ourselves. By the way, the mechanism of the site for calculating the pros and cons works strangely. For example, I wanted to put "avt" minus, it should be +4, but +10 jumped out! How is it ?, gentlemen, site owners? This is called forgery! I officially declare that I did not set "avt" +5 - this is a site forgery. It turns out that if my opinion coincides with the official opinion of the site, then there will be a plus, but not one!, And if it does not coincide, then there will be a minus and also not one. Here is "freedom !, vigorous louse!

[family tree]

Quote: valerei

For example, I wanted to put "avt" minus, it should be +4, but +10 jumped out!

Thank you, neighing. The navel of the site. Nothing that while I was reading, they stuck him pluses, you are your minus, the account readings, only on your computer updated

[dmitriygorshkov]

Quote: Fox

Serbs thrown? Ukrainians thrown? author, wake up already! THEM YOU DO NOT NEED ANYTHING !!! or does the author really want my SON to save Ukrainians? what would they shoot him in the back? not ... thanks, dear. Ukraine itself crap , and it’s not Russia that should erase the ports! FOR YOURSELF! Only for yourself.

100% agree with you!
And the article is custom-made and somehow stuck together on my knee!
That author declares that he seemed to find out that there are no fraternal people! There is a small number of friendly Ukrainian people! There’s an overturn and a statement that we threw 20! .....
Too lazy to even write! He is a woodpecker, as they say, a woodpecker!
This article has one very big positive! If our enemies are forced to pay such garbage, it means that smart people refuse to slander Russia! So smart people understand that, with all the roughness, the course is chosen correctly!
The end smiled:
"Maybe I'm exaggerating? Then correct me!"
How much pathos! You do not exaggerate! You lie awkwardly! Here is such an amendment!

[RBLip]

can you put ten pluses? or even so I wrote the same thing more than once in VO, I got a minus (it seemed a little early). now your message is a statistical slice. slice of the fact that our people are seeing. No, or almost no brothers in Ukraine. where there is, there was a referendum. and the rest of Ukraine ... well, do not make them love us. they don’t want - do not. in the fall he wrote - they will want to eat, they will crawl. and Russia will still think whether to take it or not. to roll in them the loot from our pockets or not. and minus the article. fatty. for the author does not see behind the trees of the forest. one phrase about a friend Nicaragua drove into a stupor. for it has long been known that Russia has two friends — its army and its fleet. and further it was possible not to read ...

[Deniska]

slice of the fact that our people are seeing. no, or almost no brothers in Ukraine

For a long time I’ve been trying to prove to everyone that Russia cannot have friends and brothers, only PERSONAL INTERESTS !!!

[thrower]

Just the difference between Russian civilization and Western civilization lies in the fact that we have friends. That we are able to come to the rescue without counting pennies in the wallet.
That’s why the West doesn’t like us, they simply cannot understand it. But you can’t explain to the fish how great it is to play football, it doesn’t have legs, it won’t understand.
So with the West, they don’t have a soul, they have some kind of ersatz, but such that you share it, but you only get better - no. And will not be. I apologize for the pathos, it just boiled up))

[11111mail.ru]

Quote: Deniska

PERSONAL INTERESTS ONLY!

STATE INTERESTS!

[aleks700]

Not Ukrainians. And the world is from the Nazis. From Hitler Agents.

[Colorman]

Sometimes I have the same thoughts, but then I understand - it's too early to judge ...
Now everything is in the hot phase, the situation may develop in either direction.
And I’m sure that soon the south-east of Ukraine will be friendly (it’s cheaper to buy the whole top there than to build bridges, gas pipelines, etc. to Crimea)

[KOH]

(to the author) I think you are not here ... I started to cry ...

[JoylyRoger]

Well, yes, there is some kind of incompleteness.
I don’t give a damn that I’ve scribbled a bunch of minuses, but just half the solution to this issue is needed to raise the GDP rating, to distract from the pointlessly spent money on the Sochi Olympics (I don’t think that the athletes would be much worse off at a party), to distract from problems of their own economy. It is not in vain that the joke about separation from the Russian Federation with the subsequent accession of many regions in order to get a salary from state employees at the Crimea level is popular on the Internet.))))
For these cases, such half measures as the author wrote about are just right, and the euphoria from the fact that our Crimea is, I am afraid, will soon pass. Even more, no matter how the residents of Crimea themselves were disappointed. Although it is unlikely.
I really want to make mistakes in my reasoning.

[Good cat]

See how the Olympians performed in Vancouver

[JoylyRoger]

Our hockey players also screwed up in full, although they played in their own walls. So what? You can not write off the shortcomings of preparation for the lack of help from the native walls.

[sso-xnumx]

OUR hockey players played at the Paralympics! And they fought not for fear, but for conscience! And those whom Zenatulla rolled out his soul a long time ago, they sold to a golden calf and rode on the site each for himself, and not for RUSSIA! What are these Olympic medals for them? They in the states and in Canada will get more under the contracts ... (small cattle in the plural)

[Don]

Quote: JoylyRoger

but it’s just the half-heartedness of solving this issue that is needed to raise the rating of GDP

That is, Crimea has attached GDP to raise the rating? Maybe he and the Russian Federation made the 6th economy of the world only to raise the rating? Yes, wake up already. Enough already snot about the problems in the economy to let, as if other countries do not have them. Straight all the boobies, and you are one smart. Everyone as soon as Crimea was attached immediately forgot about all the problems. And about the meaninglessly spent money for the Olympics, so they are not in vain spent. A new infrastructure was built and Sochi brought to a new level.

[bootlegger]

What is the pointlessness of costs in Sochi is not very clear?
90% of this is the cost of infrastructure and improving tourism potential. Do you think this is superfluous?
And the Olympiad itself is just a marketing move to attract a customer base. After all, it’s not enough to build, you still have to sell the services. Isn’t it?
Crimea is an ideal place to implement a similar project. Moreover, it is not necessary to create an organizational structure, it is nearby.
If not so, then what then do you see as the optimal costs for urban development? To build a refinery in Sochi?

[V. A.]

An oil refinery is also being built there, in Tuapse ... So not only are there spectacles, but there is bread))

[Stanislas]

Quote: V.A.

A refinery is also being built there, in Tuapse ...

But this, nmv, is an example where the momentary benefit from gasoline is placed above the development strategy of the resort area of ​​the Russian Federation.

[Consmo]

We have more than 10 million tourists taking our money abroad, and here they built an excellent recreation center, which may have no analogues in the world, and now part of the money will go to Sochi, and then to Crimea. Do you mind? You can continue to crap at home, and relax on other people's beaches in your opinion?

[aleks 62]

.... And not only a recreation center ... I remind you that there are 3 shipyards in Crimea and in good condition (Kerch, Feodosia, Sevastopol) .... Kerch, even during the Soviet Union, made BIG ships (the first supertanker "Crimea" - 150 thousand tons) .... And for the article a fat MINUS !!!

[aepocmam]

Along with the "brotherly" people, there is also a people "with a quality mark" and the Old Man, who crap. And so, the situation as a whole is described objectively.

[Consmo]

Che wanted to say, 2 times read did not understand?

[11111mail.ru]

Quote: aepocmam

and Old Man, who is crap.

и / aepocmam /that crap.

[ATATA]

After reading the article, I want to tell the author:
- "Not everything is so gloomy in the short term!" (FROM)

[Rus86]

The introduction of troops would play into the hands of the "gay-fascists". I think, nevertheless, there will be not the annexation of the regions, but the systematic support of forces loyal to the Kremlin and the establishment of "our" Ukraine as leaders. (although this is already fantastic, but still). or referendums will be held under the noise of sanctions, after their elections and, again, "polite people")

[Anper]

Quote: Rus86

The introduction of troops would be in the hands of the "gayfascists"

We look and listen to the analysis of the situation from the unfriendly Ukrainian people. Especially regarding the deployment of troops from 1.26.00.

[johnsnz]

"There is a threat, and it is already real, where are the troops?" What is the threat, dear? What troops ??? There is no need for provocations, there are enough of them from all sides. While there is a squabble of a local spill and a hooligan of average rank, which the residents themselves can cope with (self-defense units, for example). The degree of tension will increase, then the people will stand up and decide for themselves with whom they live and who will rule them. The people, not a bunch of self-centered narcissistic idiots. Russia is always with Ukrainians. If necessary, we will help. And no need to provoke!

[alex13-61]

Quote: johnsnz

The degree of tension will rise, then the people will rise, and he will decide with whom they live and whom they rule. The people, not a bunch of egocentric narcissistic idiots. Russia is always with Ukrainians. If necessary, we will help. But do not provoke!

Everything has its right time ... Haste is needed when ... When the situation "ripens", and by the summer it should happen, then any actions are possible.

[Stanislas]

Quote: johnsnz

If necessary, we will help

And judging by the Crimea, there will be fewer victims than on the Euromaidan. The Russians do not abandon their own, and the NATO members do not spare others, there will be a difference in help.

[Kibalchish]

I think that this is something else ... Whatever our country does, it will always be bad in the eyes of the countries and peoples of the EU, NATO, and the former Soviet republics. The paranoia of the rulers of these countries will never let their own people take a different look at Russia.

[pts-m]

see another FUNNY decided to become a celebrity if he writes an article. and got what .... how many people have so many opinions ... do not raise a storm in the GLASS.

[dmitrij.blyuz]

A little pessimistic. Nowadays the Russians just shook everyone in an adult. They have not yet come to their senses. Over time, everything will fall into place. The past was not to disown him, but it is ours. Time to learn from our mistakes is passing. In the 90s we are "loved" all and sundry. But even then adequate politicians in Europe warned, "DO NOT ANGREE THE Wounded BEAR!" They didn’t obey. And now it’s maddened to scream about our alleged aggression. Soon, we’ll compose a song, such as "Moscow highway goes to Washington ...!"

[mamba]

Quote: dmitrij.blyuz

Today, the Russians just shuganuli all adult.

And thus forced to respect themselves, despite the malicious squeaky barking of amerovskih mongrel. When Russia gets back on its feet, then Putin will be able to repeat the words of Alexander III that "Europe can wait ...", for example, when he is diving in the Crimea. And if you still need to add respect, then you can repeat the Fiuma incident: http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/35880/

[siberalt]

The article is clearly inflammatory. Yeah. Why Russia does not save brothers. And what did these brothers do for Russia. Come on. Closer to the body - what did they do for themselves loved ones? To be with Russia. Or are you used to having to drive them by the handle and constantly feeding them? So take an example from the Crimea gentlemen, comrades, brothers!

[desant_doktor]

And we must not forget that 93% of "brothers" in 1991 voted for independence from the USSR. So we wanted to be independent - a tailwind in a hunchbacked back. And the author's groans about the brothers are not saved .... In the 19th and early 20th centuries, a myth called "Paslavianism" was walking across the empire. The author's words are nothing more than echoes of this myth. Nefig. Let them decide. Crimea has decided. We have no permanent friends. In general, there are no friends. Only the army and the navy.

[Alekst]

again panic and impatience, give more ... I want .... I want bread and circuses for me .... sorry for the harshness.

[NIVH]

And if you do nothing, then for sure it would be even worse. Why are we so afraid that we will do or did something wrong, afraid of what they say in the West? The time has come to choose - either as Yugoslavia, Libya, Ukraine - or through thorns ...

[borisjdin1957]

from the Don.
I disagree with the author on the minuses! Nobody leaves anyone. It was possible for the Southeast to use the same methods as the maydan-disperse administrations, re-elect deputies, pass laws on secession, change immediately the heads of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, SBU. No, they were waiting! They waited, the good uncle will come and settle everything, but we will look on the sidelines. Moreover, for example, more than 1 million live in Kharkov, and 5 thousand go to rallies, and the rest are on the drum? Or while the roasted cock ...? We weren’t afraid, withstood, and deserved what we deserved! Let the Southeast now ripen on its own, and without the Dobkin-Gopkins!

[aleks 62]

The thoughts are right, BUT it was not so simple in the Crimea (I tell you as a witness to events) .... If it weren’t for GDP, it would be like it is now in the SOUTH EAST ..

[Bayonet]

"Most of the countries and peoples of the former USSR and Eastern Europe hate us. Well, they cannot love and respect the people who betrayed their country, betrayed themselves." Is not it ? I don’t think that they regret the withdrawal of our troops from Eastern Europe, I myself served in Germany and I have an idea about it. Maybe they are tired of living at the behest of Big Brother?
As for the deployment of troops to Ukraine, this is war - a real war! Do we need mountains of corpses, a fall in the economy and complete isolation? And in the worst case, the beginning of the Third World?

[Niki]

However, IGNITION. Moreover, it’s thick. Why? Because the estimates chosen are extreme - overly generalizing.

And here is an interesting nuance: the Ukrainian people or the people of Ukraine? There is a difference.

[made13]

Russia has not lost 20 million friendly people — those people who are loyal to Russia will remain so. What an idealization of the relations of fraternal peoples. The people were brotherly, yes! That's just the elites of this people are not at all fraternal and the media is engaged in brainwashing. This is capitalism. Everything is measured by cash, not by reasoning about fraternity. Ukrainian partners made profit from orders in the Russian Federation. Now they will pay penalties.

And do not tell us that we should not be likened to am and to the geyropeytsami. If we do not become like Russia, there will remain a pipe and 15 million. population, as Madame Thatcher wanted.

And what about supporting the southeast, how do you imagine it, if the local population is divided 50/50? To arrange a massacre? Don't confuse Crimea and Ukraine. Even here, in Sevastopol, there are people against reunification, there are doubters. Given that the majority is for.

In mainland Ukraine, everything is much worse. The mentality is this. All owe us - this time. Guilty are two.

[aleks700]

Divided in half. Thanks propaganda. Anti-Russian Ukrainian and no Russian at all.

[Good cat]

I put the minus article. Sheer provocation, not knowing the mood of the southeast of Ukraine and hysterical anguish ... "The Russians abandoned their own." They live there for 22 years without us and do not cry. No one there calls us especially. There is no euphoria from the annexation of Crimea, just Crimea was and will be Russian.

[explorer]

The whole world saw: Russians abandon their. As always. How the Serbs abandoned 15 years ago. How they betrayed themselves in the 91st. How they threw Little Russia now.

1. And what is it all over?
2. help someone who helps himself.

[REDBLUE]

The author seems to have a poor idea of ​​what would happen if troops were brought into Malorosia. I went through the first Chechen company and I do not know in words what war is in a territory where the population does not support you. And in Ukraine, the population will not be happy from hostilities. Instead of what they are now, people will be given bloodshed and fratricide. For this, even those who sided with us will hate us even more. And then imagine after the war, even on the condition that we take the east of Ukraine to ourselves how much money will need to be invested there for restoration. You that little Caucasus ???

[kolyhalovs]

I support. The war between Ukraine and Russia is the sweetest goal for our Western sworn "friends". They also feed the fascists there only because it is more and more difficult for us to endure them. Even a civil war will destroy a bunch of everything you need and kill the darkness of the people. And then the Nikolaev shipyards will certainly not build anything for anyone. In the meantime, the question is still open.

[nokki]

As they say, emotions overshadow the mind. Many of the visitors to the VO site (including myself) may have acted in the place of the President and as advised by the author. But Putin is not James Bond to shoot right and left with two hands. He is a former KGB worker. Therefore, it always acts for sure and having backup options.

An attack on the forehead does not always lead to success. All the President’s efforts to eradicate the terrible legacy of 90's speaks about this. We are only at the beginning of the process of purification and rebirth of Russia. Putin still has to fight on the internal front, where the nouveau riche and post-perestroika filling officials are still strong.

I think Putin understands that you can’t retreat anymore. Otherwise, the death of both the state and the Russian ethnic group. Now came a tactical pause, so to speak. One can only assume what Putin planned. So far, neither we nor Western analysts have been able to accurately calculate the steps of the President. And this is not bad. Let's wait. As they say, rush is needed only when catching fleas. And then - with wet hands.

[bubla5]

Diverse, it is necessary to finish the fifth column inside Russia, and raise industry

[vdovinab]

It is not necessary for the petitioner to eat fish on the bank of the river. He must be given FISHING ROD!

[Viktor163]

And they hate us because without Russia they don’t even pull on scavenger jackets

[musha]

the author of the article is just a whooper bastard

[ed65b]

Not us, such a life (boomer). In fact, as the forum users correctly noted, the situation in Ukraine is still in the hot phase. The difference between Crimea and mainland Ukraine is enormous. first of all, the attitude of the population in what is happening at home. Putin is just waiting. the author, our supreme is not so stupid as to go ahead and be what happens. Every movement of the junta, every decree and law adopted by the Nazi government and the parliament plays into Putin’s hands, the fruit has not yet ripened. And no one canceled the permission to send troops to Ukraine, it exists and will be used in due time. As for the payment system and the development of industrial production, everything is ahead, no one expects that after the president’s words, factories and factories will grow as if by a wave of a magic wand. everything will go according to plan. There is no other way. sanctions will be long and will be twisted gradually. there is time to respond slowly, clearly thinking through the steps.

[Semenov]

Minus! Greece, the Baltic states are already beginning to love and understand in Russian without any automatic weapons, without us they will end. And to fight for someone incomprehensible - even if the author does not knock on the clave, but the ass lifts and fights, the worldview will become immediately clear.

[Thompson]

I will simply say to the author: do not understand, do not go! This is not your topic!
This is not a yard showdown!

[aleks700]

Is this your theme and your site? There can be no other opinions?

[Equitable]

Dear Alexander R., you will excuse me, but it seems to me that you do not need to bring the mishandled Cossack and the West American agitator into the contention of our country with our own words and thoughts, we have a dedicated people and we will not give our own to everyone, and we believe everything normally in this and you will live in peace.

[driver]

They themselves must decide what they need. And to drag freedom "on bayonets" is more expensive.

[Warlock_r]

“We have no workers.

We have workers. There is, but this is not a fashionable specialty yet: you have to work there, and not sit out in your office pants. And yet, not so few young people are now going to factories. Especially those that pay.

"The payment system of domestic production, according to Gref, can be ready in six months."

There is already a payment system of domestic production, and more than one. Not to be confused with Gref's PRO100. NCC-Union card, Golden crown, STB. Another thing is that the Gref lobby of the Sberbank Kaki pro100 is very strong.

"... What, if only there was no war? ..."

Yes, if only there was no war. The policy of pseudo-legal authority in Kiev has a clearly directed vector for self-liquidation. And striding widely, she moves to the abyss, reaching which she will mature and she will be killed, and she will drop Ukraine into the hands of the Russian Federation. The Russian Federation now, as in curling, is rubbing the path into the abyss with brushes to make it easier to roll. And if hostilities begin now, this is, firstly, the fresh graves of our guys, and secondly, a completely clear signal to the whole world that the Russian Federation is an aggressor and an invader. Thirdly (it follows from the second) those countries that are now taking a neutral position will be torn away and will most likely turn their backs on us, and wars will simply not pull the war on a bunch of Russian fronts.

"The elite, no matter what patriotic slogans they hide behind, easily betray the people, even under the mere threat of sanctions."

The elite have always done this. Do you know what the term "pension" originally meant? But with a strong will of the ruler, they had nowhere to go, and they worked for their own good, but carefully looking back at Russia.

"Russia has exchanged a military base for a powerful industrial center"

A bit wrong. Russia has exchanged a military base, not just for a powerful industrial center, which, with a competent political game, will be ours anyway, but for the possibility of control by the enemy of the Black Sea region.

[Lelek]

Gref's rip-off (2,5% on deposits) gives a comfortable existence for the near-Sberbank "elite".

[Voenruk]

It is necessary to work, to raise the country, but let them at least bite in the west. Everyone will come running back from a bad life. The main thing is to save the people! Free housing for young families, free education, good work. The industry is up and stop pushing the small producer! Far East without tax zone. And it will be like with Crimea, there will be more Chinese than Russians and they will chase us, hold their referendum.

[Dragon-y]

Troops cannot be entered - do not forget about propaganda. I talked with friends who have relatives in Ukraine - so there REALLY await the Russian invasion.
Let them understand, over time - who and how and where they so skillfully "used". And with whom they will be better.

“You can deceive one person - for a very long time. You can deceive many people - for a while. But deceiving everyone and forever - will not work” - so somehow ...

[Flinky]

Minus to the author. Doesn't know what he is writing about.

[Sevastopol]

article with a provocative choke! What does it mean to leave your own? What do you think needed to be done - to introduce troops? Russia is doing everything right! Our Crimea, now all efforts at the diplomatic front on the federalization of Ukraine. Federalization is a direct connection with the regions bypassing Kiev. The elections of May 25, if they take place at all, will not end, there will be a 2nd round, according to the law three months later - the end of August. During this time, in Crimea, raise the social program, gasoline prices(this is a very important point) at the Russian level, the holiday season should be at the level. Crimea is a showcase of Russia for ordinary Ukrainians. For this, not so much money is needed.

[stas52]

The author calls for military action against Ukraine to begin; I want to ask him who he works for?
Yes, now everyone is waiting for the terrible Russian bear to show its insidious essence, and finally begins to seize Ukraine, then it will be possible to call on the rest of the world to fight this "terrible beast".
Now, to capture the minds of Ukrainians, it’s not necessary to show our trunks, but how good it became in the Russian Crimea compared to the Ukrainian one. That is, propaganda and propaganda again, so that it would not be necessary to shed someone else’s blood, but they themselves would want to join one big family. The population itself must come to this, and by introducing troops, even those who were for us can be turned against themselves.

[iliitchitch]

Some kind of blizzard. Russia at the moment needs a balanced policy, not a lisp. "Betrayed - not betrayed, the whole world hates ...". This "civilized" world has robbed everyone whom its sticky hands have reached (India, Africa, part of the Middle East) - we can continue. They ate the stolen goods, pushed their way towards us, and hit the kolobakh (for a start, in a modest way). If they screech so loudly, then we are going the right way, comrades.

[aviamed90]

Claim Article analysis positive and negative sides of the annexation of Crimea to Russia.
But can this writings be called analysis?

If the author has taken up such a topic, then it is necessary to disclose it qualitatively and fully.
Or better, do not take it at all!

[Lelek]

ANAL-LIZ with emphasis on the last syllable.

[PValery53]

Is it not Alexander Rahr from Germany who "builds" his reasoning so freely? - Russia should have refused to behave like a sheep among the hardened wolves of the West long ago. And to respond to sanctions with weighty answers. And to do this, it was necessary to build a self-sufficient economy. And then the West had nothing to "grab" us for. And we freely "regulated" the benevolent attitude of these (shameful) wolves with an oil and gas krantik

[Tima]

Our Crimea. With a black sheep, even a tuft of wool.

[Lelek]

Something you, dear, skidded (or from a hangover?). Who is the black sheep and who is the wool shred?

[bistrov.]

The author runs ahead of the locomotive. The war for Ukraine is not over yet, it is just beginning. After all, the existence of Crimea without the mainland adjacent to it is very difficult. I don’t think that Putin does not understand this, he just adheres to some developed plan, which something is waiting. In my opinion, troops should be sent to the eastern and southern parts of Ukraine on February 21-22, as they say "seven troubles - one answer", why this was not done then I cannot understand. Now, when the so-called. the Ukrainian army is located on the borders with Russia, you should forget about the military operation, you can hardly manage without shots, now you should go the other way: rocking the situation in Ukraine from the inside by means of agents, and this is a long and painstaking business. There is another way, if the Kiev the authorities will begin mass repressions against the Russian people in Ukraine and the introduction of troops can be justified by the protection of the Russian population, the Kiev junta understands this, and therefore it hid, reduced anti-Russian rhetoric, and began a systematic information war. In this situation, Putin can also be understood: he does not want an unnecessary aggravation of the international situation, the Russian army is not yet quite ready for a global war, and its massive rearmament is in progress. In all likelihood, the current state of affairs in Ukraine will be mothballed for some time, then Putin will choose a convenient moment and take away the southern and eastern lands, incl. and Transnistria. This is my opinion.

[ysychyov]

what have "+" and "-" here, RUSSIA gets up from its knees, collects, mediocre lost lands, and no one said that it would be easy on the way.

[sv68]

Agent Alexander r-you carried out a special task-you were prepared to sow panic and start false rumors against Europe- and you, my friend, will be expelled from the alarmist and treacherous courses for inattention

[mamba]

The author contradicts himself. In one place in the article he writes:
We found out that there is no fraternal Ukrainian people. There are people, but certainly not fraternal. There are a number of Ukrainians who relate well to Russia, but no more.
In the other place:
We have lost 20 million friendly people.
And here are some more passages:
Russia exchanged a military base for a powerful industrial center, for the ports of the Black Sea, at the Nikolaev shipyard, which will never build ships for the Black Sea Fleet.
Industrial centers in the South-East of Ukraine work with Russia under agreements and programs. And Nikolaev's shipyards will start working with Russia when Russia considers it beneficial and safe for itself. And then the current thieving government in Kiev has already "lost" the agreement on the last Russian loan, actually stealing the first tranche: http://www.ng.ru/news/462510.html
Most of the countries and peoples of the former USSR and Eastern Europe hate us. Well, they can not love and respect the people who betrayed their country, betrayed himself.
It would be necessary for the author to start with the fact that these same peoples first betrayed themselves by raising a wave of separatism, then they betrayed their country - the USSR, collapsing it even before the Bialowieza Agreements, then betrayed the Russians who remained in their territories. And our sin is our sin, and we still atone for it.

[Yaromir]

What are you talking about, in Ukraine today we have not lost anything, but only acquired Crimea from 2,5 million Russians living in the occupation. The current state of society in a good half of Ukraine is lost for us, they really hate us and hate us for a long time, what can we say about the so-called brothers who are convinced that only cold and hunger can be expected from Russia. At the expense of the development of industry, do not rush to exaggerate, we will still see that everything will be fine with us, we just need to believe in ourselves, take an active position and not write nonsense on the Internet pages.

[parusnik]

An anecdote, two bulls, an old and a young one, are standing on a hill, cows are grazing below. The young one says, let the old one quickly go down and take that cow over there, the old bull replies, we will slowly go down and take the whole herd.. The author of the article acts as the young one a bull who wants to quickly go down... and at the exit there are two cows... and the rest of the herd has fled...

[Asketxnumx]

A well-thought-out, “like a fool” PROVOCATIVE article.
There is nothing to comment here. Just one example of "stuffing".

[paramon]

I don’t care what kind of government there will be in Ukraine, by and large it doesn’t matter, there are plenty of literate and educated people there, as well as idiots, but where are there no idiots?
the question is whether NATO missiles will be stationed there or not. Of course, the scheme with Crimea turned out to be ambiguous for the Western public, Putin is blamed for everything, they call him a monster, European countries are afraid of him - . The Russian government did a very big thing - it did not allow the creation of enemy missile bases on its borders, again, the location of the peninsula is unique - " From now on we will threaten the Swede” - so that they can’t even think about poking their way in, they’ll get in anyway, it’s just a matter of time.
And of course, the reunion of the people, together it is always more fun.

[colonel manuch]

The article is provocative, the author has a thousand minuses. I am writing as someone who was in Crimea, as part of the “polite Cossacks.” I personally saw how people, after the announcement of the referendum, cried, hugged, kissed and shouted: “We are back in Russia, we have been waiting for this for 23 years.” The north, southeast, and south will soon understand this too - SURE!!! And they will do the same thing, albeit a little later.

[Rohon]

The one who walks will master the road. No other words are needed.

[Ragoz]

The author is right in many ways, our government “doesn’t see the forest for the trees,” and the well-being of our people is deteriorating every day due to rising prices for the same salary. So what happens, did they quit or didn’t quit, that is the question.
I lived through and remember the war and how after the war, every year on April 1, everyone heard about price reductions, and on April 1, 2014, all prices increased sharply. What does it mean? YOU CAN PUT MINUSES, BUT THINK, ABOUT CRIMEA I AM COMPLETELY FOR

[Don]

The author is another illiterate critic with little understanding of politics and geopolitics.

The whole world saw that Russia could not be dealt with using weapons.

What is this even about? Did the Russian Federation use weapons or were they used against it?

Friend: Nicaragua.

Enemies: Europe, USA, Japan, Australia

And this is a kind of injection. You see how weak our friends are. You can, of course, think more seriously about countries like Venezuela or Bolivia, but that’s not the point. The author has little understanding of the games at the UN. It doesn’t matter whether 50 countries or 15 voted in support of the Russian Federation, or how many did not vote at all, or how many were against, the main thing is that this does not change anything. Something else is important. The Russian Federation has defended its interests, but this does not change anything in its relations with many states. Is Japan the enemy? Just because you voted against the Russian Federation? They purely formally supported the United States, and last week they held a bilateral summit of the Russian-Japanese business elite, where new contracts and agreements were signed on the supply of even more oil and gas to Japan. Is Europe the enemy? Main trading partner? Germany and Italy voted conditionally at the UN, but they still work with the Russian Federation in many areas. Or will Türkiye, for the sake of the United States, change anything in mutually beneficial relations with the Russian Federation?! The PRC and India, the two largest economies in the world, have taken a neutral position, but their Foreign Ministries have already come out with an understanding of the “position” of the Russian Federation and are only going to increase trade turnover.
Maybe the author of some Ukrainian propaganda channels has seen enough about some kind of political isolation?!

that Russian industry will begin to develop independently

And before that, how did she develop, with the help of magic?

We don't have workers. There is no one to do it with your hands. And those that exist... live out their time.

The author urgently needs to go to the hospital or to the factory, maybe when he sees something with his own eyes, his head will begin to think.

First. The whole world saw: the Russians were abandoning their own. As always. How the Serbs were abandoned 15 years ago.

That is the logic of a stupid person. Again there are cries that Syria, Libya, Iraq, Serbia were abandoned, but now Ukraine has been abandoned. Author, is everything okay with your head? Enough of this snot already. The Russian Federation did not abandon anyone. We have already written about other countries a hundred times. In Ukraine. Is this called being thrown if Crimea was defended? In the South-East. As Sevastopol wrote above correctly. Why was it necessary to send in troops? Everything must be done wisely and with your head, and not with what the author thinks. The author wanted to wave his saber. Like war is war. Did he think about the consequences in the economy? Of course not. Now the majority of EU countries do not want to introduce any serious sanctions, but if the Russian Federation sends troops to the South-East without precedent or any compelling reasons, then they will understand. They will have nowhere to go, otherwise the world will take them for trash. And the Russian Federation and the EU have a trade turnover of 400 billion. Therefore, politics should be dealt with by people who understand it, who look at the situation from all sides, and not by scribblers like the author.

[aleks700]

About the factories. We are a regional center. There are still working factories left for recounting. In their place are shopping centers. There is no training for blue-collar jobs anywhere. Perhaps the author is a fellow countryman and sees the same thing as me.

[Don]

Quote: aleks700

About the factories. We are a regional center. There are still working factories left for recounting. In their place are shopping centers. There is no training for blue-collar jobs anywhere. Perhaps the author is a fellow countryman and sees the same thing as me.

1.If it’s not a secret, what city?
2. Do you think there should be many heavy industry factories in every regional center? There are Yekaterinburg, Novosibirsk, Krasnoyarsk, and there is Elista, Tver or Makhachkala. In other countries, exactly the same example can be given. Factories were built, are being built and will be built in certain places for a reason. Uraltyazhmash was built for a reason in Yekaterinburg, and not, for example, in Kursk.
3. The comment above is generally about workers, not factories.

[aleks700]

This is Barnaul. How can we get the workers away from the factories? Are there any factories working? There are workers for them, but if they only destroyed for 20 years, where will the workers come from? Yes. Nearby there are Novosibirsk and Novokuznetsk. Saw. They work there. Not everything that was before 91, but it works. We have a complete J. as I list. The radio plant, Transmash, KhBK, BMK, geophysics have disappeared, the motor and tire plants are dying. ZSV was completely killed. These factories employed from 5 to 20 thousand people.

[Don]

Second. Russia exchanged its military base for a powerful industrial center, for the Black Sea ports, for the Nikolaev shipyards, which will never build ships for the Black Sea Fleet. We lost 20 million friendly people. You can take comfort in the fact that you could be left without everything.

Nobody changed anything. This author is another stupid all-over.

Third. The elite, no matter what patriotic slogans they hide behind, easily betray the people even under the mere threat of sanctions. The dollar is more important than dignity and honor!

And of course, like any all-killer, he again sang a song about the fact that everyone in the elite is traitors.
So let's draw the author's conclusion. But he’s not there. Because the author is yet another critic and all-rounder, capable only of babbling yet again about how everything is bad and no one is doing anything right. At the same time, the author himself does not say what needs to be done. The easiest way is to sit at the keyboard and criticize.

[A1L9E4K9S]

The author of the article reproaches Russia and its people for abandoning someone, Libya, Serbia, now we have abandoned the “friendly” people of Ukraine, let’s figure it out. In recent years, Russia has been like a thorn in everyone’s side, which won’t make everything bad, they haven’t introduced Troops, bad, abandoned Ukraine. Troops were brought in, even worse - invaders, occupiers, why does Russia constantly owe money to someone? Should this, should that. When will someone owe Russia? And about the people of Ukraine, when you are the fifth column, traitors to the Motherland, you will be at one with the people of Russia, for Russia, then Ukraine will be with us.

[tokin1959]

everything has its time.
In Crimea, Putin did it super professionally - without firing a single shot.
We don't need a fratricidal war.
This is not 1939, when they simply sent troops into Poland and solved all the problems at once.

[Giant thought]

The author is partly right. But there are more advantages. And it’s not a fact that we abandoned our own in Ukraine. It's all about what methods to solve the problem. You can do it immediately by military means, given the presence of our human losses, in time it will come out immediately, or you can do it non-militarily, but over time the process will drag on, but the prize itself will fall into your hands, without any sacrifices. But we don’t have as many people now as we would like, and throwing bunches of people on the altar of victory for the sake of even a very good idea is unreasonable. Is not it.

[mackonya]

You shouldn’t use the term “Russians are abandoning their own”; if you mean the current government, the government, etc., then say so. Regarding the first minus, I may not agree with each example, but a threat is not yet a reason to send troops, because the USA and the EU are just waiting for this.

[Seamaster]

According to "Minus number two":
There are no longer shipyards in Nikolaev, only their territory remains. And the workers fled in all directions.
Forget about Nikolaev.
But in Crimea we got, albeit barely alive, but functioning SRZ in Feodosia and Kerch.
In Feodosia, the only plant in the USSR that built hovercraft for the Navy. Recently built for China.
In Kerch, now only tugboats and the like are built, but previously they built the largest ships in the USSR - tankers of the "Crimea" type with a total displacement of 180 thousand tons.
So there is no need for afterlife sobs.

[grizli7747]

The author is an alarmist. And a distorter of facts.

[La xnumx]

But I agree with the fact that there is no fraternal Ukrainian people.

[Palladium900]

“The whole world saw: the Russians are abandoning their own. AS ALWAYS. How they abandoned the Serbs 15 years ago.”.. The author has a spring paranoid-schizoid exacerbation??. Does the author know that many volunteers from Russia, Cossacks, fought and died in Serbia? And Serbia was betrayed not by Russia, but by specific people of liberal appearance who ruled the roost in Russia at that time. And in general, the article is complete shit.

[Rattenfanger]

We found out that there is no fraternal Ukrainian people. There are people, but they are definitely not fraternal.

Rave. As an ethnic group, and even more so as a single society, such a phenomenon as the “Ukrainian people” existed only in the propaganda and slogans of Svidomites, and even then only those intended for the general public.

First. The whole world saw: the Russians were abandoning their own.

Where in Ukraine did the author, offended by fate, see his own people? Donbass, Kharkov, etc.? Should we bring them happiness with bayonets? Did they ask us? Or did you just watch indifferently for 23 years while Russia was being rinsed with shit by a zigging scum with Bandera posters?
If we had gone there after Crimea, after some time we would have heard again, “It’s all the Moscow’s fault.”

Second. Russia exchanged a military base for a powerful industrial center

See No. 1 + the exchange of dubious industrial capacities that have not been modernized for 23 years for the “aircraft carrier “Crimea” with a crew of more than 2 million is not so bad.
Following the half-destroyed East, millions of those who voted for independence and criticized us for many years will fall on our social system. Do we need it? Do we have a few extra billions every month to feed idle collaborators?

Third. The elite, no matter what patriotic slogans they hide behind, easily betrays the people even under the mere threat of sanctions.

Blah blah blah. Is it possible to provide a specific example to the studio? For this specific case?

ZY A friend from Lugansk recently said that we betrayed them! Crimea was taken, and South-East. No...
Before we take the East of Ukraine, we need to pump billions into psychiatry. Because this public needs urgent medical treatment and qualified medical care.

[mamont5]

I don't agree. Nothing is over yet, everything is still ahead, so there is no need for funeral marches. No one abandoned anyone, because... no one has asked for anything yet. Except for Crimea, of course.
Going straight ahead without paying attention to anyone is not the smartest idea. We are not that strong yet. The ability to wait for the moment and take advantage of it is always preferable. And, I repeat, nothing is over yet.
The elite, as you say, also did not betray anyone. On the contrary, a rare unanimity was demonstrated (I don’t mean any Novodvorskys, Makareviches, etc.)
Don't they hate the peoples of the former USSR? It happens, especially when the entire propaganda machine of their current state is aimed at this. Basically this is the same Ukraine.

[Pacifist]

I will try to explain why, in my understanding, we are not escalating the conflict. The annexation of Crimea is so grandiose because it happened peacefully and without bloodshed. Largely thanks to the attitude of the local population and the correct tactics of the operation based on competent planning. The situation in the Southeast is completely different.
Firstly, geographically: there is no possibility of quickly blocking an extended line of confrontation while ensuring the security of the line of contact.
Secondly, in terms of population: the established balance of power ratio (loyal to us/hostile) ~60/40 does not make it possible to conduct a bloodless operation, which, alas, immediately transfers it to the category of counter-guerrilla with all the ensuing consequences. Those. blood, sacrifices, battles.
Thirdly, resource-related: when starting such an operation, it is necessary to guarantee proactive blocking and ensure the safety of nuclear and hydropower facilities in the region, plus nuclear power plant waste storage facilities. To ensure that they are taken under control and isolated from possible sabotage actions from outside, up to 2 special-purpose divisions are needed. This is a grandiose invasion operation that will have to be supported by an equally lightning-fast support operation with the introduction of troops as part of the army.
Can you imagine the scale? Without this, we will get a nuclear desert with flooded territories, and with this we will be flooded with Euro-shit from the burst diapers of Gay Europeans.
That is why several circumstances need to come together:
1. The population of Crimea must feel and convey to others in Ukraine the advantages of being part of the Russian Federation, thereby increasing the share of the population loyal to us
2. Federalization as a tool for self-government of regions of Ukraine, so that they can make independent decisions, even in opposition to thugs from the West. This will allow, if something happens, to accept them in compliance with all legal norms, but even if they do not become part of the Russian Federation, ensure integration into our processes.
So, excuse me, dear author, but you’re just feeling depressed in the spring. Drink vodka and take a walk in the forest.

[Nikolaevich I]

I very much agree with Pacifist. Many expected that, after Yanukovych called in Russian troops, something similar to “Crimea” would happen in the South-East of Ukraine, but it didn’t happen! The proteges of the Kiev putschists were expelled from the regional centers and formed their own authorities (for some reasons we will not touch on the history of P. Gubarev), the formation of armed self-defense units that would take power in the cities (at least in regional centers) did not occur, disarmament did not occur (well, actually, disarmament is “hemorrhoids” "Oh-ho-ho and oh-her-she!) or the blocking of military units, the police did not switch over to the side of the people's authorities, etc. If something had happened that “did not happen”; and if at least some - either the Ukrainian military units, on the orders of Kiev, would begin to suppress popular uprisings with weapons, then the Russian army would receive the corresponding order. But in the South-East it turned out that “there are few real violent ones, so there was no coup.” What do you order them to do now? Attack an “entrenched and entrenched” enemy? Incur casualties and shed blood themselves? And for whom? There grew up a generation of not only Russian-speaking Ukrainians, but also Russians who do not know Russia at all, who do not want to become citizens of Russia, but want to join the European Union .Why didn’t the Party of Regions at one time form people’s squads to send them to Kyiv, where they could become a strong counter-argument to the radicals and would not allow a coup? The population of the South-East did not “want, was afraid, was lazy”? So, maybe this population is largely to blame for losing its national rights, honor and dignity? Let the people show that they are ready for a real fight , and not just at a demonstration (by the way, who knows: how many of the total population takes part in protests?), that the people are ready to make sacrifices in order to protect their national rights - then Russia (I believe in this) will definitely help and protect. But in general, it’s not evening yet and it’s not clear where the curve will lead; and there’s no need to rush to shed blood—in Crimea, without blood, things worked out well for Russia.

[pheophano]

I suggest the author read the article by Andrey Devyatov
http://www.peremeny.ru/books/osminog/8972
In addition, there are two more wonderful videos on YouTube




In general, I don’t feel optimistic about the annexation of Crimea. After all, the question is why and what will happen to him next. Putin is a Rothschild man. Please note that sanctions for the annexation of Crimea are nominal and only benefit Russia. If you read LiveJournal, you will see how complimentary Jewish bloggers are to Putin, how happy they are that Crimea did not go to China.

[Black]

Don't hit the author...
His heart hurts. The person is worried.
And is he the only one who believes that it was necessary to go to the Dnieper (at least)? Many were expecting such a trip at the beginning of March.
By the way, I don’t think they would start shooting at us in the back...And the West would be liberated by the Ukrainian army itself. And ours would already be in the barracks today....

[sinukvl]

Minuses. Oh ho ho!

The first. The whole world saw: Russians throw theirs. As always. How thrown Serbs 15 years ago. How did you betray yourself in 91? How left now Little Russia. March 2 President received permission in the event of a threat to the Russian troops in Ukraine. There is a threat, and already real, where are the troops? What if only there was no war? As in 1938 Chamberlain in Munich. We called it the betrayal of Czechoslovakia, and what is happening now? And this is WAR! The war with the Nazis, and there can be no compromise, as there was no them with Hitler in 1945.

Second. Russia exchanged its military base for a powerful industrial center, for the Black Sea ports, for the Nikolaev shipyards, which will never build ships for the Black Sea Fleet. We lost 20 million friendly people. You can take comfort in the fact that you could be left without everything.

Third. The elite, no matter what patriotic slogans they hide behind, easily betray the people even under the mere threat of sanctions. The dollar is more important than dignity and honor!

I answer the author of this article about its disadvantages:

First: Russians do not abandon their own, and the whole world saw this with the example of Crimea. But scattering your strength and trying to help everyone at once is not possible, it’s like striking with an open palm. efficiency will be equal). Therefore, priorities are always determined and their gradual implementation begins, step by step. Step one - Crimea. and then we will see step two and three, etc.

Second: Regarding the Black Sea ports, we acquired them in Crimea, and we also resolved the issue with the Kerch Strait. As for the industrial base in Nikolaev, it hasn’t been there for twenty years; only one memory remains of the shipbuilding plant, and the situation in Odessa is no better. Regarding the loss of 20 million friendly population, this conclusion is completely made up.

Third: I don’t agree at all, we already have sanctions against the Russian elite, but we don’t see any betrayal of the interests of the peoples of Russia on the part of the elite. And I also don’t agree about the fact that the dollar is more important than honor, something our ruling elite doesn’t bend to West, but sends him away.

Conclusion, the author of this article seems to be from the tribe of liberals (they are also former intellectuals), that is, people who are capable of seeing everything in our history in black and will thoughtlessly bow to the West. In general, the author is a real pseudo-patriot, supposedly caring for Russia, but in fact, has long been admiring the West.

[Sevastopol]

More advantages? But no.

Hmm... well, let's assume that I did not understand the author's deep intentions.
Almost 2 million Crimeans do not seem to exist for him. Those. It’s as if I don’t exist for him either.
a military base in Sevastopol is important, but there are no local people... are they insignificant? are they insignificant for the author? This could be the end...
Restoring historical justice is also, apparently, just words for the author.
The unity of the Russian people and the No. 1 positive geopolitical achievement of Russia since the time of Stalin also does not seem to be considered a plus for the author.

Most of the countries and peoples of the former USSR and Eastern Europe hate us.

Did the author draw this conclusion based on personal impressions? It’s impossible to say this even about Ukraine (thank God, which is already foreign to me). Most of the population lives in Eastern Ukraine. or did the author not see rallies with tricolors in the largest cities after Kyiv?
in general, I would swear three floors right here at this article. but out of respect for the site and its regulars, I won’t do this.

[aleks700]

Historical justice is to destroy the Bandera-Hitler bastard.
And yes. The author was in Latvia and Kazakhstan. You can swear.

[GDP]

Quote: aleks 62

The thoughts are right, BUT it was not so simple in the Crimea (I tell you as a witness to events) .... If it weren’t for GDP, it would be like it is now in the SOUTH EAST ..

I support! It’s too early to send in troops, but we need to help and we need to pursue an active, not a passive policy in the South-East of Ukraine.

[Alexey]

I don't agree! The author's view seems very superficial to me!
we will lose the situation without our Crimea:
1. a “legitimate shitcratic government” comes to power
2. The “government” receives trust marks from the EU and p.e.n.d.o.s.s in the form of cookies and gingerbread
3. the “government”, in exchange for loans, places bases with missiles from benefactors (of course they are aimed at Iran, or Nicaragua)
4. within 2-3 years, nothing remains of Yuzhmash, the entire industrial east, Nikolaev, etc., without hope of some kind of restoration. Friends control gas supplies to Geyropa. As in the Baltics, the most affluent Ukrainians (up to 20%) work in the West as plumbers, janitors, McDonald's salesmen,...
5. there are also 6., 7, 102,..., and more competent people (I don’t pretend) also have 202,... 303...

The biggest PLUS (with a capital letter)
The annexation of Crimea made it impossible for our friends to locate bases on Ukrainian territory and showed the inconsistency of the current “rulers” of Ukraine.
Again, our 22s can now fly around the entire west (oh, we could use a hundred more 22s, to the heap)
again there are also 202,... 303...

[MahsusNazar]

Quote: valerei

Interesting thought and conclusion! If you consider that any site of this type is created to make money, then everything is correct. And we are tearing throats! We insult each other, but what's the point? No one reads us anyway but ourselves. By the way, the site’s mechanism for calculating pros and cons works strangely. For example, I wanted to put “avt” minus, it should have turned out to be +4, but it came up +10! How is that?, gentlemen, site holders? This is called forgery! I officially declare that I did not put +5 on “avt” - this is a forgery of the site.

Calm down... !
The page just updated

[family tree]

We don't have workers. There is no one to do it with your hands. And those that exist... live out their time.

How much can you make laugh? Yes, there are plenty of workers. We have another problem. There is an overabundance of clueless managers with office plankton and a lack of smart engineers, especially smart technologists and designers. Or maybe it’s not a drawback, they’re just pushed by the “economists”, monetarism, you understand. I would have visited.

[Lelek]

The article is, to put it mildly, provocative. The author strictly followed the instructions. Well, as for Crimea, this is a self-sufficient region (you just need help at first), populated by Russians with Russian passports (if someone doesn’t like that, then they should go...), in a year or two it will become more beautiful than Nice. And residents of the south-eastern regions of Ukraine need to decide what they want, to join forces to protect their territories, and not to portray grandfather Krylov’s QUARTET, and Crimea is an example for them. Russia will lend a shoulder.

[Rusin Dima]

All 90 years we tried to be both good and open to the West and America, what is the answer? NATO is at our borders, Georgia attacked civilians, about in Europe, to list further?

[afdjhbn67]

Quote: dark_65

The author is rare: either, or an anal rogue.

I would say rear wheel drive...

[cyberhanter]

very good opinion. I completely agree with him. without additional action - we are now a loser

[biglow]

Nobody abandons anyone, Putin is a long-term player, and any situation must mature. Crimea was on the brink of a bloody massacre in February and the reasons are probably clear and that’s why Putin made a knight’s move... And SE is not yet ripe even for federalization, Russia can help only when there is complete support from the population, when the opponents are in the minority and plus self-organization is needed, which has not yet taken place in the South-East... All moves are now on the side of the people of Novorossiya

[awg75]

We can’t just take and annex even half of Ukraine—at the moment we simply cannot handle this part physically and financially. we will drag all of Russia to the bottom along with its entire population. a hefty minus for the author - just a nasty provocateur. fight for your future in Ukraine, don’t wait for good Uncle Putin to spank all the bad guys. over the overwhelming majority of Ukraine, a small group of Nazis and outright thieves took power over whom there is nowhere to put a stigma. go out into the streets, don’t wait for the Westerners to drive you all into reservations and force you to work on plantations for food - FIGHT FOR YOUR LIFE!!! and Russia will undoubtedly help you with this - both morally and financially.

[zinander]

A vile article... the author is a misdirected Cossack sowing panic...