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Mystery of two diplomats: Lavrov - Kerry

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The four-hour emergency talks Lavrov-Kerry in Paris, for which Kerry deployed his plane flying to Washington, ended without result. Separate diplomatic press conferences allow even talking about failure.

It can be assumed that Lavrov repeated Kerry’s Moscow proposals, which he had previously spoken about on the Sunday Time program: about the confederative structure of Ukraine as a way to preserve its unity, about the need to protect the rights of the Russian-speaking population, including the right to speak their native language, and disarmament extremists.

In any case, the US Secretary of State confirmed that the topic of federalization was touched upon, but noted: "We cannot decide for Ukraine." And he immediately demanded that Russia withdraw its troops from its border, they de "create an atmosphere of fear and intimidation in Ukraine."

Actually, we have long guessed that Kerry and Obama do not solve anything at all. They only do that they repeat the positions formulated by someone, and take time-outs. Who decides for them? - only McCain knows with Biden. Was it really for the sake of these long-known, in principle, Moscow proposals, Kerry launched a plane to Paris? Perhaps not only.

In the same “Sunday time,” Sergey Lavrov stated that there is information at the disposal of the Russian leadership, according to which the Ukrainian nationalist movement “Right Sector” could lead the shooting of snipers on the Maidan.

And his subordinate permanent representative to the UN, Vitaly Churkin, went even further: he said not so long ago, and on the UN fields, that some American headquarters were in charge of extremists on the Kiev Maidan. The representative of the State Department called this statement Churkin disgusting lie, but ... what if Lavrov has information about that?

High diplomats did not say a word about the events on the Kiev Maidan, although Lavrov’s mysterious “information” about snipers could be a real reason for the Kerry plane to turn to deliver it to the right place ...

Kerry’s demand to withdraw Russian troops from the regions bordering on Ukraine, by the way, repeats the State Department’s demand for Yanukovych to withdraw police units from Kiev so that they don’t intimidate “peaceful demonstrators”, I mean Bandera’s militants.

And this is at a time when the latter are already imposing their own rules in the eastern Ukrainian regions bordering on Russia, when Yarosh, Korchinsky and other leaders of the Ukrainian neo-Nazis openly threaten terrorist attacks in Russia and even partisan war. They have the audacity to claim the rights to a number of Russian regions!

In fact, Russia has the full right to demand the immediate disarmament and prohibition of all these Bandera formations, but otherwise it has the right to work on them itself. On the simple basis of the stated threat of a terrorist invasion.

Russia is now simply obliged to strengthen its border, otherwise how to prevent the penetration of the militants? And the United States, in fact, is trying to clear the way for Bandera militants to Russia, as they cleared it in Kiev. And cover up politically.

... It is interesting that a meeting of high-ranking diplomats was held at the Russian embassy, ​​away from the all-hearing NSA-CIA ear? Lavrov noted that the negotiations were "constructive." By this he, in fact, gives Kerry a chance to be constructive.

Lavrov puts pressure on Kerry, but does not drive him into a corner, does not blame, for example, the United States of participation in the coup d'etat in Kiev. Although he could repeat the words of his subordinate Churkin, say that the American instructors were behind the backs of the militants of the Right Sector, and now the American embassy in Kiev stands behind the government of Yatsenyuk-Turchinov, in response to the accusations of the US of the “annexation of the Crimea.” Sly fox, this Sergey Lavrov, whom in the US "it is customary to hate."

In the end, John Kerry promised to "create an atmosphere" for discussing Moscow’s proposals by the Kiev government, Sergey Lavrov promised no one knows what, but so much that Kerry had to promise to "create an atmosphere", but this is not an easy task, anyway, it’s clear that it will rain day…
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  1. Name
    Name April 2 2014 08: 34
    +33
    Since March XNUMX, both Obama and Kerry have just been doing it to "create an atmosphere" deliberately directed against Russia, but judging by the opinion of European industrialists and businessmen from the United States, it is not very successful. And Obama in Saudi Arabia, perhaps, did not lick in public at ...
    1. mirag2
      mirag2 April 2 2014 09: 08
      +16
      Regarding the reduction in oil prices with the Saudis, Obama did not agree - too many would have to sacrifice amers, following the results of negotiations Lavrov looked pleased, and Kerry was tired.
      Many journalists in the west believe that so far Moscow is counting.
      And Putin, having learned about the results of negotiations with Saudi Arabia, called Obama, after which he already sent Kerry back to Europe (Paris).
      1. Ross
        Ross April 2 2014 17: 02
        +3
        The fact that Lavrov stated that the snipers were of the right sector is some kind of game. All sources, including the ex-head of the SBU, cite Parubiya, and this is Tyagnibok Freedom. Exactly some kind of game.
        1. Sergei75
          Sergei75 April 2 2014 18: 41
          +3
          It's time to put an equal sign between nationalists, the current Rada, Timoshenka, Parubia, Yanukovych / Yushchenko and the Tyaniboks, this is one gang that wants to finish off Ukraine, slander Russia and fill its pockets.
        2. Zeus
          Zeus April 2 2014 19: 11
          +2
          Parubiy controlled the entire territory of the Maidan. Everyone who was there obeyed him, no matter from which party.
      2. marsel1524
        marsel1524 April 2 2014 18: 52
        +1
        From the realm of fiction, but why did I immediately think: is Malaysian Boeing and Diego Garcia base involved here? Maybe our people know something?
    2. maks-101
      maks-101 April 2 2014 09: 10
      +28
      Obama in Saudi Arabia did not lick in public at ...
      ass, and what is shy in expressions, if the abdola offered to suck, sucked where he would go, you need to.
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      2. Aryan
        Aryan April 2 2014 09: 23
        +39
        Lavrov becomes the same Legend of the dilatation
        as in his time Gromyko
        if there were more such diplomats in Russia
        when the arguments and position of one person replaces
        arguments and strength of entire armies
        good
        1. polly
          polly April 2 2014 10: 37
          +15
          Obama has long suspected that he should not expect good from this man, but as always, he was underworked ... wink
          1. bazilio
            bazilio April 2 2014 11: 57
            +15
            Quote: polly
            Obama has long suspected that he shouldn’t expect good from this person,

            Once again, I am convinced that Lavrov is a very strong diplomat. It is very good that he is the Foreign Minister. And it seems to me that Lavrov is one of the few who can freely put forward his thoughts to Putin and which Putin accepts for execution.
            1. Ptah
              Ptah April 2 2014 12: 24
              +8
              Quote: bazilio
              Lavrov is a very strong diplomat.

              Little Seryozha Lavrov in childhood loved to attend the "Young Naturalist" circle and read the corresponding magazine. He especially liked the section where he talked about reptiles. Therefore, he became a serpentologist.
              He studies and educates Kerry, but it has already been almost proven that Kerry is a reptiloid.

              And Vitaly Ivanovich Churkin at the UN is an arachnologist. He can without fear raise a stick in a pile of spiders.
              For this, they sometimes attack him with poisonous spits.

              Gleb the Drunk: Scandals, intrigues, investigations ... Samantha Power bit Vitaly Churkin out of jealousy ...
              Churkin: Yes, she spat at me!
              Nikolay Drozdov: It is very dangerous, for example, a large brown spitting cobra aka "Naja ashe" - an African snake from the asp family can spit up to five meters ...
              Churkin: Well, for sure, she! Cobra, bl ** a, but not brown but red, angry - the creature, Wherever it got - there the jacket was dissolved. It’s clear that nobody marries ...
              Guzeeva: Let's get married! Today, a lonely American girl in the program is looking for a Russian husband ...
            2. yastr
              yastr April 2 2014 17: 19
              +1
              Who knows, it may be he who will subsequently be the new leader of the state.
          2. bazilio
            bazilio April 2 2014 11: 57
            +1
            Quote: polly
            Obama has long suspected that he shouldn’t expect good from this person,

            Once again, I am convinced that Lavrov is a very strong diplomat. It is very good that he is the Foreign Minister. And it seems to me that Lavrov is one of the few who can freely put forward his thoughts to Putin and which Putin accepts for execution.
      3. Bort radist
        Bort radist April 2 2014 16: 21
        +2
        Quote: maks-xnumx
        sucked where he would go

        For the sake of World Peace :-)
    3. Horn
      Horn April 2 2014 09: 23
      +12
      The photograph clearly shows that the "slave chicology" has not been eliminated by black US citizens to this day. How servile a nigga bowed before an aristocrat!
    4. Samaritan
      Samaritan April 2 2014 10: 10
      +4
      Quote: name
      Since March XNUMX, both Obama and Kerry have just been doing it to "create an atmosphere" deliberately directed against Russia, but judging by the opinion of European industrialists and businessmen from the United States, it is not very successful. And Obama in Saudi Arabia, perhaps, did not lick in public at ...


      There is a slight difference: Uncle Vova will act quickly and accurately in the eye, and not like the West: go snot chewing!
  2. mamont5
    mamont5 April 2 2014 08: 35
    +10
    Ours do not want to break all ends with America yet. Press gradually.
  3. Igor39
    Igor39 April 2 2014 08: 36
    +6
    They probably agreed on federalization, and if Ukrainian politicians object, cling to them, they will say we won’t give any money.
    1. vadson
      vadson April 2 2014 13: 29
      +4
      It seems to me that at the expense of the southeast, Putin has already decided in our favor. Remember, before joining the Crimea in Russia 24 there was almost round-the-clock reporting only about the peninsula, thus forming public opinion, and this was done very aggressively, but there was no other way - Crimea could not be let go. Now show a happy end in the Crimea and a mess in the southeast. form another public opinion in favor of Russia, and not ours, namely in these areas. because there are a lot of people with a brain dislocated to the wrong side.
      my assumptions - there will be federalization, there will be prezik elections, there will be default, there will be a fragmentation of the country: west to NATO, center, and east with south as part of the Russian Federation.
      do not forget that Putin always has a policy of "both ours and yours", so the fragmentation is likely
      1. bazilio
        bazilio April 3 2014 10: 42
        0
        Quote: vadson
        my assumptions - there will be federalization, there will be prezik elections, there will be default, there will be a fragmentation of the country: west to NATO, center, and east with south as part of the Russian Federation.

        It may very well be that the Maidan will happen again. From the news, the discontent among the pro-European part of the population regarding Maidan activists is already being captured.
    2. zao74
      zao74 April 2 2014 14: 36
      +1
      God give it. Then the Russians in Ukraine will have a strong trump card.
  4. Patriot23
    Patriot23 April 2 2014 08: 37
    +10
    It is necessary to eliminate the very center of all the troubles that are happening in the world, that is, to remove those who are behind the American "government" ...
  5. major071
    major071 April 2 2014 08: 41
    +48
    It seems to me that Lavrov is still holding Russia's trump cards in negotiations with the United States. What trump cards I don’t know, but I think that our specialists in Ukraine are many times better than the Yusovsk ones, and in any situation they have already dug up something that the United States will not like at all, but so far it’s a coffin. Lavrov is generally the smartest person and Kerry is not a rival to him. IMHO hi
    1. Horst78
      Horst78 April 2 2014 09: 03
      +7
      Quote: major071
      Lavrov still holds the trump cards of Russia in negotiations with the United States

      With such "friends" all the trump cards are not pulled out, and the trump cards must be HUGE.
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 April 2 2014 23: 13
        0
        Our trump cards are Poplar, Yars, Iskander ...
    2. alicante11
      alicante11 April 2 2014 12: 29
      +2
      Whatever our specialists dig up. Americans can always make incomprehensible eyes and say "there was nothing, nothing happened" (c).
      1. vadson
        vadson April 2 2014 13: 32
        +1
        I call it "pretend to be a dead perch")))
  6. Dazdranagon
    Dazdranagon April 2 2014 08: 41
    +17
    Poor Lavrov, as I understand it, it’s hard to talk with the I.D.O.T.T.M. ... wassat
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 April 2 2014 09: 14
      +10
      Quote: Dazdranagon
      Poor Lavrov, as I understand it, it’s difficult to talk with the I.D.O.T.T.M.

      "Spring rush" of political heavyweights laughing :
      1. desant_doktor
        desant_doktor April 2 2014 10: 33
        +3
        Yes, which Kerry is a heavyweight, then? negative I made fun, damn it ...
        1. sv68
          sv68 April 2 2014 10: 51
          +5
          well, after talking with the laurel, Kerry sharply got heavier in his pants wassat
          1. desant_doktor
            desant_doktor April 2 2014 11: 02
            +3
            Then another thing! lol
        2. Thirsty for wind
          Thirsty for wind April 3 2014 08: 02
          +1
          In fact, Kerry is a representative of serious clans. The beast is thoroughbred.
          In vain, understate, in fact, for Lavrov such a trophy, this is a set-off !.
          I applaud mentally, this is a heavy pull, and Lavrov pulled, for which he gave me my mental salute.
      2. inkass_98
        inkass_98 April 2 2014 10: 41
        +4
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        political heavyweights

        Well, it’s somehow incorrect to compare Lavrov and Kerry. Lavrov is a man, while still being the representative of the Russian Federation at the UN, he gave coke to the bourgeois and annealed cleaner Churkin. And Kerry is an epigone, from a heavyweight he only has a repetition of a gesture by EM Primakova on the turn of the plane over the Atlantic. Moreover, it cost Primakov a seat for independence, and Kerry only fulfilled the command of the owner.
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 April 2 2014 11: 51
          +2
          Quote: inkass_98
          Well, it’s somehow incorrect to compare Lavrov and Kerry.

          But I didn’t compare them, I focused on their posture - they rested against each other with their foreheads like noble deer. In this fight there is always a winner, in this case the alpha male Lavrov, you don’t need to go to grandma, he proved his superiority , in their actions, in the political arena.
      3. sv68
        sv68 April 2 2014 10: 49
        +2
        Kerry Laurels bluntly said-get out of here homo
    2. Black
      Black April 2 2014 10: 44
      +5
      Quote: Dazdranagon
      Poor Lavrov, as I understand it, it’s hard to talk with the I.D.O.T.T.M. ...


      It’s not that Kerry is more stupid than Lavrov, it’s not in the mind and not in the stupidity at all.
      The point is the TRUTH. In recent decades, the gangs have grown so swollen that they have even ceased to be "encrypted" in their pranks. And why, if no one dared to say a word !! ??
      And then-suddenly- Russia demanded, opened, dug ....
      And Kerry is now forced to spin as if in a frying pan, but the TRUTH behind him does not become anymore, in addition, "maydanuty revolutsiye" - that not a step is in gown, set up by set up.
  7. Nayhas
    Nayhas April 2 2014 08: 45
    +14
    Mystery of two diplomats: Lavrov - Kerry

    If one understands the secret, then it would be necessary to recall the chronology of events.
    On March 28, Obama flew to Riyadh to meet with Abdullah.
    On March 28 evening, Putin calls Obama to Riyadh, they are discussing something, after which Obama turns Kerry to Paris to meet with Lavrov.
    After the Lavrov-Kerry meeting in Russia, news of a partial withdrawal of troops from the border with Ukraine takes place.
    Those. Obama discussed something with Abdullah, after which Putin calls Obama, discussed something, after which Obama instructs Kerry to drop everything and fly to Paris to meet with Lavrov.
    As you can see, the role of diplomats Lavrov and Kerry is not at all the main one in this game and the secret is not theirs, but Putin and Obama and Abdullah.
    1. atalef
      atalef April 2 2014 09: 00
      +3
      Quote: Nayhas
      Those. Obama discussed something with Abdullah,

      It is clear that discussed
      Oil fell significantly in world markets

      02 April 2014, 07: 03


      The cost of futures for WTI American light crude oil on the New York Commodity Exchange fell 1,84 dollars to 99,74 dollars per barrel.

      On the London Stock Exchange, contracts for the May delivery of North Sea Brent crude oil were concluded at a price of $ 105,62 per barrel, or $ 2,14 lower than the day before.
      1. Name
        Name April 2 2014 11: 31
        +1
        Yes, and with regards to futures (since such a booze started), the price and delivery time cannot be changed - this is futures delivery (contract however) ... repeat
      2. alicante11
        alicante11 April 2 2014 12: 31
        0
        Strange, but Yandex indicates + 0,2% and the same cost. Again, "bloody gebnya is lying"?
    2. atalef
      atalef April 2 2014 09: 00
      -5
      Quote: Nayhas
      Those. Obama discussed something with Abdullah,

      It is clear that discussed
      Oil fell significantly in world markets

      02 April 2014, 07: 03


      The cost of futures for WTI American light crude oil on the New York Commodity Exchange fell 1,84 dollars to 99,74 dollars per barrel.

      On the London Stock Exchange, contracts for the May delivery of North Sea Brent crude oil were concluded at a price of $ 105,62 per barrel, or $ 2,14 lower than the day before.
      1. Name
        Name April 2 2014 09: 20
        +8
        Apparently you are happy, but ... you would have to take care of your younger ones, and not gloat:
        International PISA testing showed that Israeli teenagers are less prepared for the conditions of the modern world than students in other developed countries - and this is even worse in Israel than with the level of school knowledge.
        see http://news.israelinfo.ru/technology/50930

        With regard to fluctuations in energy prices, it is not so fast and easy.
        As a result of Obama’s visit to Arabia, the issue of Saudi participation in the “war on lowering” energy prices and the replacement by the Gulf monarchies of the drop-out volumes of Russian oil and gas for other strategic partners of the United States was considered separately, worked out at the level of informal expert groups, which both They will have to work out a plan for this very “war for a lowering”. Consequently, Russia has about a year more to develop and practically implement reciprocal steps in the field of energy and export of raw materials. Actually, this is where all the positive news about Obama's visit for our country ends.

        see http://www.iran.ru/news/analytics/93083/Obama_Araviyskiy tongue
        1. atalef
          atalef April 2 2014 20: 03
          0
          Quote: name
          Apparently you’re glad

          Of course, gasoline will become cheaper

          Quote: name
          you would care about your younger ones, and not gloat:
          International PISA testing showed that Israeli teenagers are less prepared for the conditions of the modern world than students in other developed countries - and this is even worse in Israel than with the level of school knowledge.

          But without empty talk, our Hi-tech and technologies are not being made offshore, but by this * unprepared generation *


          Quote: name
          As for energy price fluctuations, it’s not all that fast and easy.

          K; of course, but futures define expectations. those. lower prices in May indicate one thing - in May more oil is expected on the market.
      2. Bakht
        Bakht April 2 2014 10: 56
        +6
        Quote: atalef
        Oil fell significantly in world markets

        This is an indicator. It is impossible to increase oil production in one day. We can say that this is a decrease in prices for the month of May. But there are no reports so far that the Saudis have increased production.
        You can draw any price. This is pure water (oil) speculation.
        1. atalef
          atalef April 2 2014 20: 04
          0
          Quote: Bakht
          You can draw any price. This is pure water (oil) speculation.

          You can draw any price - that's for sure. Only the price of futures, and indeed on the stock exchange, is determined by the results of trading, not drawings.
          1. Bakht
            Bakht April 3 2014 00: 35
            0
            Quote: atalef

            Each trade contract for an IPE term based in London or in the bowels of the NYMEX represents 1000 barrels of oil. In 2003, the total amount of trade was 100 billion barrels. This figure, exceeding the annual volume of oil production, can only be explained by speculation. Annually, up to 570 barrels recorded on paper during the sale correspond to one single “real” barrel.

            These operations have a dual purpose: to control and manipulate prices. The prices declared publicly are speculative, and they are not the prices at which oil is sold daily in accordance with long-term contracts.

            In London, on the IPE market, speculators can carry out transactions with funds representing only 3,8% of their purchases. 1000 barrels of $ 40 each amount to $ 40, of which buyers pay only $ 000, or 1250% of the total. Transactions concluded in this market correspond to five times the volume of world oil production in all types. You can control world oil prices even if you have insignificant capital.

            An even more surreal fact. Brent, an oil field in the North Sea, provides only 0,4% of world oil production, while its spot price is up to 60% of the value of all world oil production.
            IPE is managed by the former head of Shell, Sir Robert Reid, along with representatives of the largest banks in the world.

            As soon as the Saudis decide to produce 2 million barrels per day in addition to bring down prices, speculators immediately buy through NYMEX 77 long-term contracts. Each contract represents 000 barrels of oil, and they hold the equivalent of 1000 million barrels in their hands and thus raise oil prices and neutralize the Saudi initiative.


            This is speculation and not trading. By the way, while the tanker from Hormuz reaches Rotterdam, its cargo is resold 50 times. I am not like a parrot in vain, I repeat about "non-deliverable futures". This is pure speculation without real oil. In principle, no raw materials are planned for this futures. But these futures are 5-6 times more than real oil.

            PS “Demand and competition for access to energy can become sources of life and death for many countries. When nuclear weapons are distributed among thirty or forty countries and each of them operates according to its own calculation, having little experience and relying on different value systems, inevitable catastrophes will threaten the world. ”
            G. Kissinger
  8. Bobxnumx
    Bobxnumx April 2 2014 08: 45
    +9
    To promise does not mean to marry, but if you look at the Eastern rhetoric: "I promised, but did not promise to fulfill." Time will tell where all this will lead.
  9. polite people
    polite people April 2 2014 08: 47
    +7
    The Slavs live, and they all decide.
  10. La-5
    La-5 April 2 2014 08: 50
    +3
    Talking head that Kerry, that Obama.
  11. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam April 2 2014 08: 53
    +2
    But the United States, in fact, is trying to clear the way for Bandera militants to Russia, as they cleared it in Kiev. And cover up politically.

    The Yankees or the lunatics themselves, or they are holding us for idiots.
    It really cannot be that they all think like Power:

    You must not forget that you are the loser
  12. mabuta
    mabuta April 2 2014 08: 55
    +25
    Having created and paid for the current situation in Ukraine, the USA themselves now don’t know how to get out of this mess. And Lavrov, as an excellent politician, tells Kerry how to leave. Because the rat needs to be kicked out, and not driven into a corner (or else get involved with it) )
  13. Stas57
    Stas57 April 2 2014 08: 57
    +6
    I'm trying to guess what they were talking about, and come up with their words for them, though nothing happened, but I wrote many different words

    Victor Kamenev

    excuse me, but it is.


    Poor Lavrov, as I understand it, it’s hard to talk with the I.D.O.T.T.M. ...

    idiocy-consider the enemy a fool, sales if he really is.

    As you can see, the role of diplomats Lavrov and Kerry is not at all the main one in this game and the secret is not theirs, but Putin and Obama and Abdullah.

    in the wake of the Far East, sofa analytics appeared (it’s certainly not you, don’t think about it) when, by the wave of a gray hair, the photos determine what two politicians / diplomats / activists were talking about hiding from the NSA.

    interesting, but I did not meet the masses of this analyte, who told me, "and we will wring out Crimea in a month,"
    1. alicante11
      alicante11 April 2 2014 12: 39
      +1
      interesting, but I did not meet the masses of this analyte, who told me, "and we will wring out Crimea in a month,"


      Ensuring surprise is half the battle. And only those actions that are not miscalculated are sudden. And our leadership understands this well and acts accordingly. While the Americans are too straightforward. In general, specific steps are much more difficult to calculate than trends. Moreover, when the order of actions is determined by such a cunning killer.
  14. patriot123
    patriot123 April 2 2014 08: 57
    +4
    as before, these diplomats decide the fate of the world !! with the return of Russia !!!
  15. Horst78
    Horst78 April 2 2014 09: 01
    +4
    In any case, the US Secretary of State confirmed that the topic of federalization was touched upon, but noted: "We cannot decide for Ukraine."
    And here I was surprised laughing
  16. askort154
    askort154 April 2 2014 09: 01
    +13
    Yes, Lavrov (in general, the Russian Foreign Ministry) so far perfectly demonstrates the continuity of Soviet diplomacy. Molotov and Gromyko would be pleased. And all the more so. The dirty stain left in the history of the Russian Foreign Ministry by Shevarnadze and Kozyrev is washed away!
    1. rasputin17
      rasputin17 April 2 2014 09: 17
      +3
      Quote: askort154
      Yes, Lavrov (in general, the Russian Foreign Ministry) so far perfectly demonstrates the continuity of Soviet diplomacy. Molotov and Gromyko would be happy!


      A worthy replacement for two iron "NO" !!
    2. omsbon
      omsbon April 2 2014 09: 32
      +4
      Quote: askort154
      . The dirty stain left in the history of the Russian Foreign Ministry by Shevarnadze and Kozyrev is washed away!


      With all due respect to Lavrov, Churkin and other diplomats of the Russian Federation, the spot of betrayal of Russia's national interests, these two jackals - schvarnadze and kozeryvy, will not be forgotten for a long time.
  17. 111 soldier
    111 soldier April 2 2014 09: 07
    +4
    they have many secrets !! rule almost everything in the world!
  18. jura61
    jura61 April 2 2014 09: 13
    +2
    I think one of the factors proposed by the author of the article to us may be the question of the situation around Transdniestria on the basis of the referendum of 2006, since if Russia recognizes sovereignty, even without joining the Russian Federation, agreements can be concluded for the presence of any military contingent there troops of the Strategic Missile Forces or other units. In my opinion, this is the most terrible step for the USA and NATO on the part of Russia, our leaders probably play this, and most likely federalization in Ukraine will take place, which is also very important.
  19. johnsnz
    johnsnz April 2 2014 09: 15
    +6
    Lavrov vs Kerry. Different weight categories. Plus, Lavrov has carte blanche to conduct such negotiations (of course, within the framework agreed with GDP). Not running, not reporting, not asking what to say. Anyway, two big clever women on the outer front - Lavrov and Churkin. I respect
  20. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil April 2 2014 09: 16
    0
    Kerry and Lavrov in the top photo, like two boxers who meet before the fight, are weighed there and everything else. That's why something, but our foreign ministry is the most competent of all and Lavrov gives the impression of a professional.
  21. Flinky
    Flinky April 2 2014 09: 22
    0
    Quote: MainBeam
    The Yankees or the lunatics themselves, or they are holding us for idiots.
    It really cannot be that they all think like Power:
    You must not forget that you are the loser

    Unfortunately or fortunately, they are both sleepwalkers and we are being kept for idiots.
  22. mackonya
    mackonya April 2 2014 09: 34
    +2
    I have always wondered why the term "annexation" is used, I thought earlier that this is the forcible unilateral joining of a country (or part of it) to another country. Probably the USA and EU should distribute their explanatory dictionaries in the form of mini-brochures.
  23. vvkroxa
    vvkroxa April 2 2014 09: 42
    +3
    And it seems to me that Kerry turned the plane around to find out when there will be a new earthquake off the coast of California wassat Recently, seismic activity in that part of the world has somehow become more frequent. Here Chile today for example .......
  24. desant_doktor
    desant_doktor April 2 2014 10: 36
    +7
    It is necessary to draw up a petition for awarding S. Lavrov with something very significant. Andrew the First-Called or Merit 1 tbsp. Deserved, in my opinion. Who agrees?
  25. fktrcfylhn61
    fktrcfylhn61 April 2 2014 10: 56
    +1
    There is nothing to think here, the same scenario that was in Libya, and now in Syria! Procrastination of death is like !!! The longer the Banderasts and their accomplices will be at the helm, the more lives will have to be put in while putting order to protect civilians! To bring an ultimatum to EuroSodom and the hedgehog with them: Or the Banderasts and the hedgehog with them are returned to the legal field, Or we reserve the right to carry out the FORCE WORLD operation !!!
  26. Ivan_Ivanov
    Ivan_Ivanov April 2 2014 12: 06
    +2
    Talking heads in Kiev only broadcast, voice what their puppeteers order them.

    Therefore, how sincere Americans we can see from the statements of the Kiev junta.

    So far, their statements do not speak of any creation of a favorable atmosphere.

    It seems to me that the statements of the Americans are a complete lie.
  27. sanek0207
    sanek0207 April 2 2014 12: 27
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    Lavrov is a "ministry officer" with a capital letter! This is a top class specialist! He does everything right. Something reminds Gromyko A.A. he could also "comb" the flea coyote as the USSR needed!
  28. Login
    Login April 2 2014 13: 02
    +2
    See how they argue (without cuts).))
    1. _Lexa_
      _Lexa_ April 2 2014 15: 05
      0
      I think that Lavrov is on top!
    2. galser
      galser April 2 2014 16: 29
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      This is not for the faint of heart for sure. Duel on the LIFE of the country. The highest rates. There From the adrenaline there the walls crack)
  29. IOwTZ
    IOwTZ April 2 2014 15: 59
    +2
    ... It is interesting that a meeting of senior diplomats took place at the Russian embassy, ​​away from the all-hearing ear of the NSA-CIA?

    This is the most interesting moment. Some information from Lavrov, wife kerry (mov) must convey to the "coal" bypassing the amers' special services. On the snipers on the Maidan, this is x.ren. Something very serious. I will not be surprised that these were instructions for "coal".
  30. Docent1984
    Docent1984 April 2 2014 16: 05
    +1
    One is tired but happy, the other is dull. Usually with men it happens when one another calls for drinking cognac and playing poker. The first is won, the second is the opposite) But both keep secret that was at stake))) We will find out soon)
  31. Garun_Aliev
    Garun_Aliev April 2 2014 17: 00
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    The Soviet school of diplomacy is a great thing !!!
    1. andrewvlg
      andrewvlg April 4 2014 14: 09
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      Quote: Garun_Aliev
      The Soviet school of diplomacy is a great thing !!!

      You know, after all, the Russian School of Diplomacy! Everyone somehow forgot about the successes of the 2nd People's Commissar for Foreign Affairs Georgy Vasilyevich Chicherin, who since 1897 served in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Empire. It was he (along with other employees of the Foreign Ministry) who "laid the foundation" of Soviet diplomacy, and, in fact, continued the traditions of the Russian Foreign Ministry. Among his merits, for example, the results of the Genoa Conference, etc.
      So, the traditions of Russian diplomacy were not interrupted, and the Soviet school is its organic continuation, despite the fact that the vector of development of the country has changed.
  32. mig31
    mig31 April 2 2014 17: 04
    +1
    Carey, by order of Washington, is pulling rubber in order to quickly seat a convenient "legal" government in Kiev. We should take wisdom. The people of southeastern Ukraine, they are practically ready for their Maidan ... they need our help. It is dangerous to slow down ... I hope ours keep their finger on the pulse ...
  33. siberalt
    siberalt April 2 2014 17: 07
    +1
    Churkin said, Lavrov promised to show evidence, Kerry made a U-turn over the Atlantic. Somehow a rather weak argument for an immediate resumption of negotiations. Here something else is not for everyone.
  34. Dezinto
    Dezinto April 2 2014 17: 33
    +3
    Meanwhile, over the SBU building in Kiev, it was no longer the European flag that was hoisted like in many other administrative buildings of Ukraine - but already:
  35. Cossacks
    Cossacks April 2 2014 18: 42
    +2
    A new joke. Lavrov promised Kerry not to violate the borders of Ukraine, just move them to Krakow.
  36. Reserve officer
    Reserve officer April 2 2014 21: 16
    +3
    Sergey Viktorovich Lavrov is a real soldier of Russian diplomacy. Few enjoy such respect in a country like him. Of course, he doesn’t read these comments, but I still want to congratulate him on his birthday, albeit a little belatedly (March 21) and on the 10 anniversary — on March 9 on 2004, he became Russian Foreign Minister. And with honor carries this heavy burden.
  37. dFG
    dFG April 2 2014 21: 54
    0
    But what is the difference between Minister Lavrov and "minister" Kozyrev .... Lavrov is a man!
  38. Autolife
    Autolife April 2 2014 22: 15
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    The more I read about Lavrov, the more I understand that in the Russian Federation a very competent Minister of Foreign Affairs.
  39. fedul
    fedul April 2 2014 22: 20
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    looking at the photo: left loot-right life of people
  40. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S April 2 2014 22: 33
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    Quote: desant_doktor
    to find out when a new earthquake will be off the coast of California wassat Recently, seismic activity in that part of the world has somehow increased. Here Chile today for example .......


    They say the Yellowstone volcano wakes up if this volcano wakes up, pi ... q comes to America, it will fill up the whole America with ashes up to twenty centimeters thick. Maybe the Americans are looking for land to resettle.
  41. Hitrovan07
    Hitrovan07 April 2 2014 23: 03
    +1
    Somehow a long time ago, but already under Putin, one Russian physicist (at one time studied from his textbooks) said that theoretical developments were brought practically to industrial implementation, which made it possible to obtain energy practically from the air. There was one performance and no more. After a while, the GDP itself said practically the same thing. So the question is - maybe it's good when the oil price collapses, then Russia will show its "joker", after which the world will "crash" and then "collapse" to the ogs of our country. It turned out a little poetically, but in the subject.
    1. andrewvlg
      andrewvlg April 4 2014 14: 57
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      Quote: Hitrovan07
      Already under Putin, a Russian physicist (at one time he studied from his textbooks) said that theoretical developments had been brought to practical implementation that made it possible to get energy practically from the air.

      Please state the name of the physicist. Forgive me, but under Yeltsin, I remember, many also promised to receive from thin air, but in fact received from the budget and "evaporated". I don’t put a minus, but, sorry, I don’t believe without references to a scientific article. The law of conservation of energy has not yet been canceled.
  42. ddd1975
    ddd1975 April 3 2014 04: 34
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    Churchill seems to have said: "Politics is a fuss of two bulldogs under the carpet, no one understands what is happening there" - I can not vouch for the accuracy of the quote, only for the meaning. For this reason, I follow the policy only by the results (not the negotiations), what they came to in the end - while everything is happy, especially the Crimea.
  43. Akimichs
    Akimichs April 4 2014 06: 15
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    office computers for downloading programs http://www.just.ru/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=10973&sid=c4c401d0387
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