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Ukrainian Air Force: interrupted flight

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After the unconstitutional seizure of power in the Square air base and hangars went to plunder


Ukrainian Air Force: interrupted flightAgainst the background of the coup in Ukraine, few people paid attention to the fact that the air forces of the actually split country are not just experiencing a rapid decline, but in fact go into oblivion.

Since the collapse of the USSR in 1991, Ukraine has received a solid Soviet legacy: the division of military equipment left the newly formed republic of the CIS quite strong aviation potential. In terms of quantity, the combat aviation of Ukraine in 1992 was second only to the aviation of the USA, Russia and China, being the largest in Europe.

It is also worth noting that a significant part of the modern military airfields of the former USSR was located on the territory of Ukraine, where MiG-29 and Su-27 fighters were stationed, long-range Tu-22, Tu-95 and Tu-160 bombers. It was the Ukrainian airfields that at that time played the primary role in delivering a disarming strike to the NATO forces. The airbases in Mirgorod and Vasilkov, Melitopol and Belaya Tserkov, Priluki and Poltava, Mukachevo and Stryi - this is not a complete list of those who received the new aircraft in the first place. At the Saki airfield in the Crimea there is a complex of NITKA - a ground-based test aircraft simulator for training naval aviation pilots. It is a ground-based complex of ship-borne means of shortened take-off and landing of aircraft.

In 1992, three air armies were transferred to the Ukrainian Air Force (1100 combat aircraft):

  • fighters: two divisions (eight regiments) - 80 MiG-23ML / MLD, 240 MiG-29, 70 Su-27;
  • front-line bombers: two divisions (five regiments) - 150 Su-24M;
  • bombers (long-range aviation): two divisions (three regiments) - 30 Tu-16, 30 Tu-22K, 36 Tu-22М2 / М3;
  • reconnaissance aviation: three regiments - 30 Tu-22Р, 15 MiG-25РБ, 30 Su-17М3 / М4, 12 Su-24МР;
  • Aviation Regiment EW: 35 Yak-28;
  • four aviation centers: 240 MiG-21bis, 60 Su-24М, 550 L-39 Albatross / L-29 Dolphin.


    In addition, armed with about 900 helicopters, including 250 shock Mi-24В / Mi-24П.

    However, with the further deterioration of Ukraine’s financial and economic position, the aviation regiments began to shrink like shagreen leather: from the end of the 90, the Il-78 tankers, MiG-23 fighters, training Tu-XNUMHUBL weapons were decommissioned, or they were cut into scrap Tu -134М22 / М2, Tu-3 and Tu-95 (although some of the carcasses were sold to Russia). The situation with the training of aviation personnel was no better.

    But the most humiliating for the Ukrainian air forces is the signing of an agreement between Ukraine and the US on November 10, 25, on the destruction of long-range aviation units. It became clear to all that NATO did not need a strong, self-sufficient Ukraine. In 1993 – 1996, the country's leadership eliminated 1999 strategic missile carriers (29 Tu-10, 160 Tu-19MS). In addition, in 95 – 2002, in the presence of American “inspectors” at air bases in Poltava, Pryluky and Belaya Tserkov, Tu-2006М22 / 2 were destroyed.

    Air Force of Ukraine in the early 2014, there 80 frontline MiG-29 (a certain amount has been upgraded to MiG-29MU1), 20 interceptor Su-27, 24 Sukhoi Su-24M, 36 Su-25 (14 have upgraded up to the version of Su-25М1), 12 reconnaissance aircraft Su-24МР, 38 training aircraft of the Czech production L-39 "Albatross", seven military transport Il-76МД, five transport workers An-26, one VIP aircraft of An-24 and Tu-Xnumhak. Helicopter units were armed only with Mi-134 / Mi-8, since in 17, the majority of helicopters became part of the ground forces.

    Analyzing the state of the Ukrainian Air Force before the coup, it should be noted that even in 2012, the situation somewhat improved. Thus, the average annual flight time of Ukrainian pilots increased significantly compared with the previous figures and averaged 42 hours per pilot (in 2010, the average annual flight time is only 17 hours). However, the Ukrainian figure was much inferior to other countries: for example, the average annual flight time of a pilot in the Russian Air Force over the same period was 100 – 120 hours, in NATO - 120 – 180 hours. All airplanes and helicopters that were returned to the Air Force underwent overhaul or medium modernization at Ukrainian enterprises (in total, more than 50 machines were returned to the system).

    After the new leadership came to power, the military aviation of Ukraine actually lost its combat capability. The airbases and hangars remained essentially without proper protection, which further complicates the situation due to the fact that aircraft armament began to fall into the hands of frankly Nazi groups.

    The seizure of power in Kiev led to another factor - the split of Ukraine. And this actually led to the formation of military units of the Crimea (before the republic was transferred to Russia), on the one hand, and the “zapadentsy” - on the other. Since the beginning of March, by order of the Chairman of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Andriy Paruby, the process of forming the so-called parallel army and national guard is underway. However, the rank and file of the air force of the former united Ukraine, stationed in the Crimea and in some parts of the south-east of the country, refused to submit to the new leadership.

    Currently, the air base began to experience significant difficulties in obtaining spare parts, fuel and armaments. Thus, the inaction of the former government of Viktor Yanukovych and the outright Russophobia of the current junta have done their work — the aviation of a united Ukraine as such probably no longer exists.
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    1. TAMERLAN 7
      TAMERLAN 7 April 1 2014 12: 57
      +16
      So, the average annual raid of Ukrainian pilots increased significantly compared to previous indicators and averaged 42 hours per pilot ... (in total, more than 50 aircraft were returned to service).
      I wonder how many pilots flew at all? Maybe one pilot flew? laughing On several serviceable aircraft they could wind up 300 hours! belay
      1. conscientious
        conscientious April 1 2014 12: 59
        +2
        An interrupted flight is when an air defense of Ukraine brings down a peaceful plane ... crying
        On October 4, 2001 at 13.44, a Tu-154 of Siberia Airlines (tail number 85693), en route from Tel Aviv to Novosibirsk, disappeared from the radar screens over the Black Sea. At the time of the disaster, the Tu-154 was at an altitude of 11,1 thousand meters, and its speed was 850 km / h. The wreckage of the plane fell into the sea 180 km south-west of Adler. The plane was blown up.
      2. johnsnz
        johnsnz April 1 2014 13: 05
        +14
        Gee-gee-gee. Now in driving schools there is more "raid")) laughing
        1. jjj
          jjj April 1 2014 13: 55
          +21
          But smart people warned that this would end. They did not believe. But it turned out
          1. polite people
            polite people April 1 2014 14: 26
            +32
            The true face of the country's air force.
            1. Trinity
              Trinity April 1 2014 19: 18
              +8
              polite people // if it’s the Ukrainian Air Force in the picture, then why with Russian stars, and not with Ukrainian symbols?
              1. Patriot.ru.
                Patriot.ru. April 1 2014 19: 58
                +4
                They did not find money for paint to draw Ukrainian symbols.
            2. Anisim1977
              Anisim1977 April 2 2014 11: 25
              +2
              It's time for them, as "Ukram", to switch to fighting pigs, and transport and hawk in reserve, and gasoline is not needed bully
            3. nkoh
              nkoh April 2 2014 12: 08
              0
              This is not how it should sound - "who does not jump, that b!"
            4. nkoh
              nkoh April 2 2014 12: 08
              0
              This is not how it should sound - "who does not jump, that b!"
          2. tilovaykrisa
            tilovaykrisa April 1 2014 15: 00
            +27
            What do you want from them, the Americans sent food rations to the army on March 27, and on the 28th they sell them on the Internet from private individuals, to say nothing about airplanes and fuel, buy and sell the country for the past 20 years sad
        2. polite people
          polite people April 1 2014 14: 57
          +25
          Urgently. At a secret airport somewhere in Transcarpathia
          militants under the supervision of US instructors master a new
          BETMOLONET flight technique.
          1. iliitchitch
            iliitchitch April 1 2014 15: 26
            +5
            Vector traction adjustable?
            1. 120352
              120352 April 1 2014 23: 25
              +3
              The draft vector is unregulated, as is the draft itself, depending on the variety of peas.
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          3. Anisim1977
            Anisim1977 April 2 2014 11: 26
            0
            They see a hike ahead of the fat, and here they are torn with crazy eyes. bully
        3. zanoza
          zanoza April 1 2014 15: 04
          +26
          Quote: johnsnz
          Now in driving schools there is more "raid"))

          And the jester with them, with the Ukrainian Air Force. Which country, such and the army. negative
          Let even paper planes launch.
          I am proud that there are Russian air forces good that emerged from the peak and gain height! drinks
          1. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 April 1 2014 15: 13
            +16
            well, it’s good that they pi..sets came, potentially all of this would have fought against us ..
            1. Basarev
              Basarev April 1 2014 22: 20
              +5
              Ukrainians had decent aircraft, one of which inspires respect. More than 900 helicopters are a magnitude. There were chances to preserve this wealth. But the Ukrainian authorities did not seize the chance, so the final is quite natural.
            2. 120352
              120352 April 1 2014 23: 27
              +2
              They would still have to weld cartridges everywhere so that they wouldn’t shoot ... And it’s better to remove the trunks so that there is less swing with a club.
      3. domokl
        domokl April 1 2014 13: 06
        +26
        They all flew ... But these flights were as frequent as going out to sea in the Ukrainian submarine fleet in full force (Zaporozhye) ... They celebrated the New Year more often ...
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        2. DEMENTIY
          DEMENTIY April 1 2014 14: 03
          +9
          42 hours (on average!) - I'm sorry for the pilots. I had more raid on Yak-42 (DOSAAF) in 94-95.
          1. 120352
            120352 April 1 2014 23: 30
            +3
            DEMENTIA
            Sorry to intrude, but you are probably talking about the Yak-52, and not about the Yak-42-turbojet passenger aircraft.
        3. Tersky
          Tersky April 1 2014 14: 42
          +19
          Quote: domokl
          They all flew ..

          But in turn ..
          1. podpolkovnik
            podpolkovnik April 1 2014 15: 18
            +28
            Quote: Tersky
            Quote: domokl
            They all flew ..

            But in turn ..



            joke on the topic ..

            - Old Man, but what is there, on the floor, to make noise?
            - Tse m @ skalі on tanks їduit.
            - But what in the sky to gurk?
            - Це м @ скалі на літаках.
            - Old Man, but why stink it?
            - I, cinque, cope, but not fear, but rather hateful!
      4. platitsyn70
        platitsyn70 April 1 2014 13: 09
        +46
        and why Ukrainian aircraft are airplanes, they have proven that they can fight without aviation, for this they need used tires and bottles, and they will finish the rest with batons.
        1. smart ass
          smart ass April 1 2014 14: 25
          +6
          Well, yes, the masters in their own police to throw a Molotov cocktail! kill the citizens of your country!
        2. Scoun
          Scoun April 1 2014 15: 13
          +16
          Quote: platitsyn70
          can fight, for this they need used tires and bottlesand the rest they with batons.

          You don’t understand anything))) tires and bottles are the most modern weapon "protokrov" a the most reliable weapon (like our AK) this club.. and what would you know .. even millions of years ago by this failsafe weapon "protoukry" exterminated the mammoths and won the war against the dinosaurs.

          PS.
          )))
          1. Konstantm
            Konstantm April 1 2014 20: 24
            +3
            Quote: Scoun
            destroyed the mammoths and defeated the dinosaur in the war

            You forgot to add Macedonian, Caesar and the last days of Pompeii. It’s the brave Ukrainians who set fire to Etna so that Rome knew that the Ukrainians weren’t dog fuck for you.
      5. Krasnoarmeec
        Krasnoarmeec April 1 2014 13: 30
        +20
        But the most humiliating for the Ukrainian air forces is the signing of an agreement between Ukraine and the US on November 10, 25, on the destruction of long-range aviation units. It became clear to all that NATO did not need a strong, self-sufficient Ukraine. In 1993 – 1996, the country's leadership eliminated 1999 strategic missile carriers (29 Tu-10, 160 Tu-19MS). In addition, in 95 – 2002, in the presence of American “inspectors” at air bases in Poltava, Pryluky and Belaya Tserkov, Tu-2006М22 / 2 were destroyed.


        But Badrak claims that it was "volunteers from the Russian Federation" who destroyed the Ukrainian army wassat and what word was picked up by "VOLUNTEERS" laughing
        "Who wants to destroy the Ukrainian army for free? Me! Step forward! fool
        The farther, the funnier ....
        1. Kuvabatake
          Kuvabatake April 1 2014 14: 08
          +16
          After a 20-hour show by the special forces of the GRU of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and Ukrainian sailors, called "Who does not jump that maskal", this cannot make me laugh ... yes
        2. Sma11
          Sma11 April 1 2014 14: 46
          +9
          In 1996-1999, the country's leadership eliminated 29 strategic missile carriers (10 Tu-160, 19 Tu-95MS). In addition, in 2002 – 2006, in the presence of American “inspectors” at the air bases in Poltava, Priluki and the White Church, Tu-22М2 / 3 were destroyed.

          I saw this report crying . One of the inspectors, a former US Air Force pilot, was even perplexed about this. Like such a good aircraft, and them under the knife.
          1. Basarev
            Basarev April 1 2014 22: 28
            +4
            10 White Swans! 19 Bears! With such airplanes, Ukrainians could well deploy NATO back and they wouldn’t even squeak. Of course, maintaining strategic aviation is not cheap, but its very presence makes good sense of the Western bullies. So it was quite possible to save and multiply the Ukrainian Air Force. But to please the West, all good was put to pieces.
        3. Ascetic
          Ascetic April 1 2014 21: 18
          +3
          Quote: Krasnoarmeec
          But Badrak claims that it was "volunteers from the Russian Federation" who were destroying the Ukrainian army and the word "VOLUNTEERS" picked up


          Yeah VOLUNTEERS, just not from the Russian Federation, there are enough of their own, The general mobilization is especially cool. Once again you are convinced that "Wedding in a Robin" is a DOCUMENTARY FILM.
          "Pan Ataman, the horses are drunk, the lads are harnessed. ... Pan Ataman Nem has a gold reserve and the lads are starting to scatter in different directions."

      6. katastrofa
        katastrofa April 1 2014 13: 39
        +60
        The head of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, said that the republic is ready to join Ukraine as a broad autonomy. According to him, "a delegation of polite armed people with beards has already gone to Kiev to discuss the details of the upcoming reunification of Ukraine and Chechnya." Meanwhile, the Prime Minister of Ukraine Senka Yaytsenyukh stressed that he would not like to see Chechnya as part of the state. “The time has not yet come for such a desperate step,” he said.
        Nevertheless, Ramzan Kadyrov said in an interview with the Saboteur newspaper that the Chechen Republic intends to become part of Ukraine “whether Ukraine wants it or not”. Kadyrov also proposed renaming the Maidan of Independence into the Maidan of the reunification of Chechnya with Ukraine. “Chechnya has always felt itself to be part of a large Ukrainian family. It is time to restore historical justice, ”said Kadyrov
        1. Rostovchanin
          Rostovchanin April 1 2014 13: 57
          +16
          The head of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, said that the republic is ready to join Ukraine as a broad autonomy. According to him, "a delegation of polite armed people with beards has already gone to Kiev to discuss the details of the upcoming reunification of Ukraine and Chechnya." Meanwhile, the Prime Minister of Ukraine Senka Yaytsenyukh stressed that he would not like to see Chechnya as part of the state. “The time has not yet come for such a desperate step,” he said.
          Nevertheless, Ramzan Kadyrov said in an interview with the Saboteur newspaper that the Chechen Republic intends to become part of Ukraine “whether Ukraine wants it or not”. Kadyrov also proposed renaming the Maidan of Independence into the Maidan of the reunification of Chechnya with Ukraine. “Chechnya has always felt itself to be part of a large Ukrainian family. It is time to restore historical justice, ”said Kadyrov

          good wassat
          1. Lelek
            Lelek April 1 2014 20: 17
            +3
            From April 1st you. bully
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        3. RUSS
          RUSS April 1 2014 13: 59
          +8
          Quote: katastrofa
          The head of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, said that the republic is ready to join Ukraine as a broad autonomy


          Ramzan decided to joke today.
          1. 0255
            0255 April 1 2014 14: 24
            +8
            not weak so joked good laughing
          2. 311ove
            311ove April 1 2014 15: 59
            +9
            Quote: RUSS
            Ramzan decided to joke today.
            I’m 6 km from the border, the wind is strong today since lunchtime, like the sun came out after the snow with rain and just south-, south-west, so "something like that" pulled ... I really thought that the Ukrainians were talking about agriculture is remembered, but it won’t be like .... !!!!! laughing laughing lol
        4. Corsair
          Corsair April 2 2014 01: 26
          0
          Quote: katastrofa
          Meanwhile, the Prime Minister of Ukraine Senka Yaytsenyukh stressed that he would not like to see Chechnya as part of the state. “The time has not yet come for such a desperate step,” he said.
          It katastrofa for Ukraine good
        5. mamont5
          mamont5 April 2 2014 04: 23
          0
          Quote: katastrofa
          The head of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, said that the republic is ready to join Ukraine as a broad autonomy. According to him, “a delegation of polite armed people with beards has already gone to Kiev to discuss the details of the upcoming reunification of Ukraine and Chechnya”

          Well, maybe at least they’ll clean it up on the Maidan. Kadyrov promised to resolve this issue earlier.
          Well, the next step, as I understand it, will be the accession of Ukraine to Crimea as a region of Russia.
      7. Val_y
        Val_y April 1 2014 14: 06
        +10
        Yes, the author is cunning, as I don’t know who No. In the part in Chernihiv, 10 tanks, after running through all the possible spare parts after running all the possible, it turned out only ONE, SO IT'S A TANK, and the plane, finally ... There tanks are brought to the border on trailers even without batteries. So most likely all 42 hours of flying, it is most likely by helicopters what
        1. PSih2097
          PSih2097 April 1 2014 14: 09
          +9
          And why on the photo is the American F-16, local flying was not found?
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          2. tommytros
            tommytros April 1 2014 14: 18
            +30
            This is the last flying sample! Allows you to fly up to 8 hours a night without looking up from pillows and blankets! )))
        2. fif21
          fif21 April 1 2014 15: 07
          +5
          Most likely in the game "planes online" laughing
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        4. xsapranx
          xsapranx April 1 2014 23: 25
          +3
          I can't sign for all the parts in Chernihiv (or is it still in "Honduras"?) but this is from one of the parts, let's say so to tears it was nice
          1. Fanat1984
            Fanat1984 April 2 2014 02: 48
            +2
            So here, after all, not a single tank drives ... Do they have a transmission that is working?

            And shaw won so shitty to speak in a ridiculous mov? Okay, my wife heard the accent even then, although she only heard Ukrainian speech from me and my mother ... laughing
          2. Good cat
            Good cat April 2 2014 13: 28
            +1
            They hear their brains creak when they pick up Ukrainian words
      8. LaGlobal
        LaGlobal April 1 2014 14: 15
        +31

        fighters: two divisions (eight regiments) - 80 MiG-23ML / MLD, 240 MiG-29, 70 Su-27;
        front-line bombers: two divisions (five regiments) - 150 Su-24M;
        bombers (long-range aviation): two divisions (three regiments) - 30 Tu-16, 30 Tu-22K, 36 Tu-22М2 / М3;
        reconnaissance aviation: three regiments - 30 Tu-22Р, 15 MiG-25РБ, 30 Su-17М3 / М4, 12 Su-24МР;
        Aviation Regiment EW: 35 Yak-28;
        four aviation centers: 240 MiG-21bis, 60 Su-24М, 550 L-39 Albatross / L-29 Dolphin.


        guys, how can you destroy 1100 airplanes in this way ????? How??? This amount of ruined equipment doesn’t fit in my head what fool
        1. Bronis
          Bronis April 1 2014 14: 39
          +24
          Quote: LaGlobal
          guys, how can you destroy 1100 airplanes in this way ????? How??? This amount of ruined equipment doesn’t fit in my head

          Yes, there is nothing surprising.
          The lack of a nationally oriented elite, clan oligarchic wars. The collapse and pulling of the economy. And the oligarchic clans do not particularly need an army (maybe only a police force). Something reminds ... only an even more hypertrophied version than we had recently ... what was the average raid of the year back in 2002?
          They are moving further and further ... to the specific principalities. and we were prepared for this option. Well, if there was a project of the Ural Republic, I’m not talking about the national type of Tatarstan and Chechnya ...
          Now we are observing what could have been with us. You need to learn from the mistakes of others. Will we learn for the future?
          1. Turkir
            Turkir April 2 2014 01: 15
            0
            Absolutely, only not specific, purely gentry psychology: What can, then drags .. into your garden.
            In general, they do not see beyond their garden, they are all dragged away. All debauchery goes from top to bottom, nowhere else to go. To plunder, nibble.
            And we have such Serdyuchki, but shakes .. But the Hand of Moscow, even with a delay .. punishes.
            According to Gogol: "You don't take it according to Rank!" - is punished more often.
        2. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 April 1 2014 14: 43
          +8
          Quote: LaGlobal
          guys, how can you destroy 1100 airplanes in this way ????? How??? This amount of ruined equipment doesn’t fit in my head

          And we still curse our Taburetkin! laughing
          1. Bronis
            Bronis April 1 2014 15: 42
            +6
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            And we still curse our Taburetkin!

            Well, here one does not interfere with the other. There is a reason. Only they didn’t put him ...
          2. Lelek
            Lelek April 1 2014 20: 20
            +3
            So it is necessary to send him to Ukraine as a plenipotentiary with broad powers. fellow
          3. 120352
            120352 April 1 2014 23: 46
            +1
            Why is there Taburetkin! Well, there is a plane, and my roof is leaking in the chicken coop. Come on, I took off part of the plane, here's the roof for you. And then a hole in the fence - and again the plane. You take the tail unit and there is no more hole in the fence! But you never know what the economy needs! After all, the ideology of a normal Ukrainian is "MY HUT WITH THE BORDER"!
        3. Nikolaitch65
          Nikolaitch65 April 1 2014 16: 10
          +2
          because morons
        4. jktu66
          jktu66 April 1 2014 19: 47
          +1
          And they complain about everything, they say in Russia they all ruined and plundered. It turns out there is a real Wonderland.
        5. Fanat1984
          Fanat1984 April 2 2014 02: 57
          +1
          How, how, and so! In the east of Russia, it will not attack, and attack it - this is idiocy! In the north of Belarus, she will not attack either, and if she does, then Russia will restrain her, and it makes no sense to attack Belarus, because the same Russia is blowing her ears! In the west, Poland, Hungary, Slovakia and Romania they will not attack, because they understand that if they conceal themselves, they will be robbed of Russia and Belarus so that they will not be carried away, and even the EU will not allow them to attack, because Ukraine is sleeping and seeing itself with legs wide apart! In the south, the Black Sea, it is guarded by the same Russia, and it’s paying a lot for it! Why in such a situation the army? fool
      9. sribnuu
        sribnuu April 1 2014 21: 38
        -6


        No one wants war! But the answer will be what. That will be joy in the USA when we awake to kill one alone) But we do not encroach on the territory of Russia.
        1. Nikaviz
          Nikaviz April 1 2014 22: 17
          +2
          Try it .... laughing
        2. xsapranx
          xsapranx April 1 2014 22: 30
          +4
          Do not believe "Agit-prom" reality is much more modest. And it's not even about technology, but about people ...
          The only ones who are 100% sure are helicopter pilots and transporters (constantly in business), and the rest have a scanty raid and the equipment that has undergone modernization and cap. repair is essentially single copies ...
        3. salamandra2826
          salamandra2826 April 1 2014 22: 44
          0
          The amerikosov will be full of joy from the war between the Slavs, but I don’t remember that, I’m a Nazi muzzle, my hatred of Ukrainians went out on TV. And I did not encounter the same attitude in everyday life, like "lives here."
        4. 120352
          120352 April 1 2014 23: 51
          +4
          In Russia, Ukrainians have no enemies!
          1. xsapranx
            xsapranx April 1 2014 23: 55
            -4
            wink Yes, we are already in the know !!! The world is in peace and everything is in the same style ...
            1. Turkir
              Turkir April 2 2014 01: 18
              +2
              And you are no longer in this style, but in what?
              And then, God forbid, we will lag behind fashion.
              wink
        5. Suhow
          Suhow April 2 2014 00: 21
          +2
          if from the announcer’s comments at least 50% is true, then it’s already pleasing. the thunder struck began to do. It's a shame if this is a joke on April 1.
        6. Fanat1984
          Fanat1984 April 2 2014 03: 00
          +1
          laughing Cool neighing, thanks! good
        7. alicante11
          alicante11 April 2 2014 06: 07
          +6
          No one wants war! But the answer will be what. About the joy in the United States will be when we wake one alone)


          They will be happy. But not for long, until the Ukrainian army scattered.
          You’d better tell me, in which war-conflicts did the Ukrainian army participate in recent years? At the grasp of the Chechens and rodents, some tricks were fought, and dry closets were taken for amers in Iraq. Let the unarmed Berkut be shot for a military campaign not to count. That's a mustache.
          Whereas the Russian army has two Chechen campaigns, with all the ambiguity of the results, the school is excellent for those who wanted to study. And the second campaign just showed that there were those who wanted it. Plus a war of three eights with an army of technically equal level and training.
          Yes, only one exercise in recent years has been carried out as much as the Ukrainian army for the entire period of independence did not. And what do you think, taking into account additionally our numerical superiority, how long will dill warriors last? I'm not talking about how many of the Ukrainians will shoot at our soldiers in general, everything is very difficult for ukrov, taking into account the Crimean experience.

          But we do not encroach on the territory of Russia.


          Yes, infringe, for God's sake. So that at least the occasion was a real help to the brothers. So that all sorts of podp.ndo.sniki then we are not recorded in the aggressors.
          1. sribnuu
            sribnuu April 2 2014 09: 52
            -1
            Quote: alicante11
            Whereas the Russian army has two Chechen campaigns,

            It's a shame, not a company. I watched the operation "trap" - losses 1: 19. Maybe they are lying - I don't know.
            1. Sergei75
              Sergei75 April 2 2014 11: 09
              +1
              Yes, it’s a shame and no one hides it, but we learn from mistakes, though ours, I hope.

              And "sribnuu". you really decide - under what flag are you, and then you jump like ... or who does not jump that mo-rock?
              1. svp67
                svp67 April 4 2014 21: 37
                0
                Quote: Sergei75
                And "sribnuu". you already decide - what flag you are under,
                So it’s possible to determine by the flags that the singer of Ukrainian independence has already fled from Ukraine to Canada ... and from there he will be shameful.
            2. svp67
              svp67 April 4 2014 21: 35
              0
              Quote: sribnuu
              It's a shame, not a company. I watched the operation "trap" - losses 1: 19. Maybe they are lying - I don't know.

              Yes, the Ukrainian army is not ready for such a self-sacrifice ... She WILL JUMP ...
          2. Sergei75
            Sergei75 April 2 2014 11: 05
            0
            If some individuals from the Ukrainian army fought in Chechnya and other countries, this does not mean that the entire Ukrainian army supports them. Ours, at the same time, "distinguished themselves", who fired from the tanks in the center of the capital? And in the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflicts "ours" were not?
        8. Krasnoarmeec
          Krasnoarmeec April 2 2014 09: 00
          +2
          Quote: sribnuu


          No one wants war! But the answer will be what. That will be joy in the USA when we awake to kill one alone) But we do not encroach on the territory of Russia.


          So we do not climb into your territory !!! Crimea? So Crimea has always been RUSSIAN, RUSSIAN and will remain !!! He got you out of stupidity, and you even pissed off ... They gave you a sledgehammer, and you and her ran a field to drive a raven ....
          1. sribnuu
            sribnuu April 2 2014 09: 54
            -2
            Quote: Krasnoarmeec
            So Crimea has always been RUSSIAN, RUSSIAN and will remain

            And Kaliningrad, whose Kuril Islands?
            1. Sergei75
              Sergei75 April 2 2014 11: 11
              +1
              Yes, this is not a question, of course ours!
            2. svp67
              svp67 April 4 2014 21: 23
              0
              Quote: sribnuu
              And Kaliningrad, whose Kuril Islands?

              Well, here you can continue to ask questions - Donetsk, Lugansk, Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk regions whose?
        9. Sigismund
          Sigismund April 2 2014 09: 42
          0
          You’re a fool. I won’t talk about Ukraine’s acquisition of land, according to history. You will still say thank you, tell us. Because you haven’t got to the Crimea. than I didn’t live in than the Russian Empire and the Soviet Union. Believe me, I grew up in the Donbass. I saw everything with my own eyes. Now Ukraine is sick, and is being treated, your pans and amerocoses do not give. Everything that can be pissed off. Whoever comes to power with you is one question. And where are the pennies? Sorry for the frankness.
        10. Sergei75
          Sergei75 April 2 2014 10: 59
          +1
          Brothers Ukrainians, we also do not want a war with you, they are trying to score a stake between us, what is 23 years for our memory - nothing! Drive your maydanuts yourself and live happily, and we will always help you if you want!
        11. LaGlobal
          LaGlobal April 3 2014 09: 31
          0
          Quote: sribnuu
          But we do not encroach on the territory of Russia.


          - and we didn’t encroach on yours!
      10. 120352
        120352 April 1 2014 23: 21
        +4
        I really can’t imagine what can be learned in 42 hours a year, flying on modern military equipment. At Cessna 172, I had to fly 120 hours to get a license. But Cessna 172 is a machine that itself flies and cannot crash. In addition, she does not bomb or shoot, but simply enjoys the flight, and then a combat supersonic plane! Looks like they taught men on a kamikaze: take-off - please, but landing is not provided.
    2. psychologist
      psychologist April 1 2014 12: 57
      +25
      to destroy such an army, it is still necessary to try very hard !! and they did it 100%! and not only the army, the navy and the navy were destroyed ... they destroyed the country and many minds were laid out !!!
      1. askort154
        askort154 April 1 2014 13: 16
        +15
        psychologist ....... to break up such an army, it is still necessary to try very hard !! and they did it 100%! and not only the army, the navy and the navy were destroyed ... they destroyed the country and many minds were laid out !!!

        Yes, perhaps the worst thing is that they have raised a new generation on outright lies. This has come up again and again.
      2. domokl
        domokl April 1 2014 13: 18
        +27
        Quote: psychologist
        to destroy such an army, it is still necessary to try very hard

        laughing So Ukrainian analysts already explained ... It was the Russians who made their way to the Moscow Region and systematically destroyed ... 23 years were preparing for the army not being able to defend Crimea fellow
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets April 1 2014 13: 24
          +18
          Quote: domokl
          It was the Russians who made their way to the Moscow Region and systematically destroyed ... For 23 years, they were preparing for the army not being able to defend Crimea

          These Russians are they.
        2. Old Cynic
          Old Cynic April 1 2014 13: 25
          +7
          Yes Yes Yes...
          These were some "volunteers from Russia" !!!
          1. polite people
            polite people April 1 2014 14: 11
            +8
            The Air Force will soon have a military kite and a military balloon.
            1. 0255
              0255 April 1 2014 14: 38
              +10
              Well, some of the planes they still can fly.
              For example, after the flight of Yanukovych they shot a completely flying and armed Su-27. Prepared in which case to shoot down the m_skalsky plane?
        3. TEODOR
          TEODOR April 1 2014 14: 47
          +9
          This is Putin's fault))
          1. 311ove
            311ove April 1 2014 16: 03
            +8
            Quote: TEODOR
            This is Putin's fault))
            I overlooked ?! laughing
      3. Suhow
        Suhow April 2 2014 00: 26
        0
        decomposition of minds is present .. on other issues the ec-ts the fire was asleep but the wick smolders ...
    3. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich April 1 2014 12: 58
      +15
      Ukrainian Air Force, can be read as BI-BI-SI.
      1. johnsnz
        johnsnz April 1 2014 13: 03
        +7
        like any other country in Russian transcription)
        1. WKS
          WKS April 1 2014 13: 13
          +5
          Yes it is, but it is the Ukrainian BBC, and mainly for other countries it is ve-ve-es.
    4. GRDS
      GRDS April 1 2014 12: 58
      +8
      Destruction is always easier than rebuilding!
    5. Siberian19
      Siberian19 April 1 2014 12: 59
      +28
      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/831/oamc940.jpg
      1. polite people
        polite people April 1 2014 14: 06
        +20
        Ukrainian Air Force announces air raid and lifts fighter
        1. TAMERLAN 7
          TAMERLAN 7 April 1 2014 14: 19
          +6
          Ukrainian Air Force announces air raid and lifts fighter
          Oh how? I didn’t know that Ukraine bought the old Swedish Saab 35 Draken! tongue
        2. Roman 1977
          Roman 1977 April 1 2014 14: 44
          +20
          Stepan, shame on you !!! what Are you kidding the Swedish J.35 Draken that he’s done you a bad thing? Why drag a well-deserved combat aircraft to Ukrainian affairs?




          Could something have found another picture and dishonored an honest fighter? Ukraine and Sweden have only the color of the flag in common, which, incidentally, the Swedes invented for Ukrainians under Charles XII, to distinguish their Cossacks ...
        3. dmitriygorshkov
          dmitriygorshkov April 1 2014 15: 34
          +4
          Quote: polite people
          Ukrainian Air Force announces air raid and lifts fighter

          It would be better if the explosion ...! winked
    6. gandalf
      gandalf April 1 2014 13: 03
      +15
      inaction of the former power of Viktor Yanukovych

      Here you just need to
      inaction of the previous government since 1991 year


      And now - why Bandera planes? You won’t jump on them ...
      1. 0255
        0255 April 1 2014 14: 42
        +1
        Quote: gandalf
        And now - why Bandera planes? You won’t jump on them ...

        But if their plane crashes from old age, it will be possible to accuse the damned m_skale in his downing wassat
    7. dmitrij.blyuz
      dmitrij.blyuz April 1 2014 13: 05
      +22
      "Thread" is now with us. The disintegration of the Ukrainian Air Force is not news. Back in the 90s, when helicopters were taken from Vinnitsa and Belokorovichi, it was clear that the shortage of spare parts was not getting to the best of it. We took everything. Because it’s not so easy for ourselves. But there were negotiations! These parrrazites cut so many cars (Tu-22M3 in particular) that they cannot be forgiven!
      1. askort154
        askort154 April 1 2014 13: 40
        +40
        dmitrij.blyuz ..... These parrrazites cut so many cars (Tu-22M3 in particular) that they cannot be forgiven!


        What, first of all, the Tu-160 with the largest residual resource. With a flying time of 50-500 hours. As I imagine ....! Why are they better than ordinary criminals ?! Hundreds of thousands of people
        created this wonderful technique! And they stupidly destroyed for the sake of the new owners. These are not people, this scum!
        1. dmitrij.blyuz
          dmitrij.blyuz April 1 2014 13: 43
          +8
          There is a video on YouTube. I want to howl. Well, bastard. P.a.s.k.u.dy!
        2. Siberian19
          Siberian19 April 1 2014 14: 56
          +4
          I agree! !
    8. Deniska
      Deniska April 1 2014 13: 05
      +17
      1100 aircraft ... 900 helicopters ... And where is all this? All sold and stolen !!! Despite the fact that in 91 in Ukraine, as in eastern Europe, there were the most combat-ready and better-equipped units ....
      Ugh ... I'm even sorry.
    9. wizarden
      wizarden April 1 2014 13: 05
      +7
      1100 got, 50 left. Impressive ...
      1. askort154
        askort154 April 1 2014 14: 50
        +7
        wizarden ..... 1100 got, 50 left. Impressive ...

        Crimean events revealed the true state of the Ukrainian armed forces.
        How foolish their people. Even swallowed the promise of "Yulka-Pahanshi" that she
        all Russians will be; - "to shoot an atom", "there will be NOT a burned-out field from Russia"!
        What does "NOT a burnt field" mean, I still do not understand, probably by the "hair dryer".
        Lord, where is Ukraine heading? Where are its people rolling?
    10. Rus2012
      Rus2012 April 1 2014 13: 05
      +12
      In 1992, three air armies (1100 combat aircraft) were transferred to the Ukrainian Air Force


      let's not talk about sad things
      failed country, poor people ...
      1. xsapranx
        xsapranx April 1 2014 13: 09
        -36%
        Thanks to your "attention", we have a ghostly chance (such a small little - but a CHANCE!)
        1. strannik595
          strannik595 April 1 2014 13: 15
          +17
          it’s too late to drink Borjomi ...... aviation will not help true Ukrainians if you are hinting at Tavria
          Thanks to your "attention", we have a ghostly chance (such a small little - but a CHANCE!)
          today Gazprom has also raised 120 green gas. How will you pay state employees and pensioners? we must think about it now ........... and Ukraine will return Crimea with Mars and Jupiter in one month
          1. dmitrij.blyuz
            dmitrij.blyuz April 1 2014 13: 42
            +3
            Yeah! Debt for gas has already exceeded far for 1 billion rubles. What do you think to pay?
            1. Old Cynic
              Old Cynic April 1 2014 13: 54
              +9
              Dolarey, Dear, not rubles !!!
              1. dmitrij.blyuz
                dmitrij.blyuz April 1 2014 13: 55
                +1
                No, all the same, Publish. Read the info.
                1. PSih2097
                  PSih2097 April 1 2014 14: 13
                  +6
                  Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
                  No, all the same, Publish. Read the info.

                  Ukraine’s debt for gas is about 1.5 billion dollars ... Miller said this on March 24, and he also mentioned a tranche of 3 billion dollars ...
                  1. Suhow
                    Suhow April 2 2014 00: 36
                    0
                    Today 1.04.2014/1/700 -XNUMXbnXNUMXmln-our Ukrainian media link to Naftogaz.
          2. Revolver
            Revolver April 1 2014 16: 30
            +7
            Quote: strannik595
            .a Crimea Ukraine will return with Mars and Jupiter in one month

            You have stale info. They have already returned Crimea ... to their rightful owners. The next question is the return of Kharkov, Donetsk, Odessa, etc. hi
        2. Black
          Black April 1 2014 13: 25
          +6
          Quote: xsapranx
          Thanks to your "attention" we have a ghostly chance

          Maybe if you do not aggravate. God grant.
          Whoever wishes you harm, get well ... maybe it will become better with your head - you will understand that if you fight something together!
          1. xsapranx
            xsapranx April 1 2014 13: 35
            -5
            No offense, I already wildly doubt it ...
            For the last 6 years, all the exercises were either from the Romanians or from the Hungarians. They’ve never considered a stab in the back (after all, you were guarantors), but nothing new about comments on the state of affairs in the army and navy ... who wants to feed his army will feed someone else's !!!
            1. dmitrij.blyuz
              dmitrij.blyuz April 1 2014 13: 51
              +15
              We didn’t stab you in the back. You tried. And we will remain the guarantors of your safety. When will the Russian Tricolor come up on Khreshchatyk! Or will it not suit you? Then you have one road to the geyropu! Good luck.
              1. Suhow
                Suhow April 2 2014 00: 51
                +2
                right now we need to maintain non-blockiness. In the current situation, it will suit everyone with others - a tricolor or an EU star. A feud is possible - east-south-east part of the center-against two-thirds of the center and west of Ukraine. I think this will not make it easier.
                1. afdjhbn67
                  afdjhbn67 April 2 2014 06: 39
                  0
                  Yes, we will laugh at how you boshki will turn each other .. but it will definitely not become more difficult, otherwise these curtsies in the direction of ho..lov are tired of now hands are untied and will not cover up "we are brothers" and so on, but we ourselves are in korman. . and as best they could. A wild field awaits you!
              2. afdjhbn67
                afdjhbn67 April 2 2014 06: 35
                0
                Do they need geyrop? this is an ordinary outskirts dream - a lot of fat and geyropa ho..ol- geyropeets, it sounds proudly .. but how they got out with the Maidan their age-old hatred of Russian
            2. avt
              avt April 1 2014 13: 56
              +30
              Quote: xsapranx
              (after all, you were guarantors)

              Here you are very much mistaken. Russia, as the legal successor of the Empire and the USSR, was not the guarantor, but the CREATOR of Ukraine. But you, in the heat of building a Velikoukr nation hitherto unseen in real history, did not want to be an integral and main part of the Russian World. We gathered in Europa, and even in the most bestial Bandera version, well, get it and sign it. Thought it would work? Even after Russia at 08.08.08. She showed, using the example of the same country, which, again, Russia created, that those who do not want to shout like a madman to the heroes, cannot be dragged away by force. Check it out how kindly everything went - we even return the scrap metal to Ukraine, but shake the simple truth on the mustache, forelocks - do not be dashing while it is quiet and stretch your legs over your clothes. Then everything will be fine, like with Butcher. But for some reason I confess that, Upyaki meane in prison for any period of time, all the same this science will not go bad for me ... "Well, the matter is higher, independent, well ..... USA is with you. As before in Belbek, pacing "on foot on the fly", the planes were dumb, the valiant, independent aviators were bawling. Well, never mind, we will send the planes to you with a steam locomotive.
              1. Good cat
                Good cat April 1 2014 14: 34
                +9
                Yeah, they walked under the Soviet flag and shouted "America with us". heroes cho
              2. Suhow
                Suhow April 2 2014 00: 55
                -1
                But what about the Pereyaslovsky treaty? Although Poland was crushing then, peace and friendship have been 300 years old.
              3. _Krechet_
                _Krechet_ April 2 2014 11: 34
                0
                What kind of aggressive are you - avt.
                You are not at the rally. What are you yelling slogans?
                What did xsapranx write that you "pounced" on him as the embodiment of evil? He is not all of Ukraine, but yours is the answer to all the people of Ukraine!

                I largely share the points of view expressed on this resource, but some of the comments of honored members of the forum seem crazy to me.
                Your comment is a spit on the opponent, who merely expresses his point of view. All that you cited as arguments and facts can and should be voiced. But you can do this without hanging labels (enemies, traitors, etc.) on the whole people.

                Gorbachev and Yeltsin did not differ in strategic thinking.
                Ruined everything that was. They voted for them, they were elected.
                The fact that everything is getting better with you is very good. But now it boasts of its significance - low. This is not Slavic.
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            3. Stone
              Stone April 1 2014 14: 40
              +8
              I would say that Ukraine drank poison and is now fighting in agony, maybe for the sake of mercy it might be necessary to finish it so that it does not suffer.
              1. Sergey Sitnikov
                Sergey Sitnikov April 1 2014 21: 12
                0
                just handsome! It is only for the future a kind of oncoming fall against a forest fire ... and do not forget:
                Yesaul, Yesaul,
                why did you leave your horse -
                shoot did not raise a hand,
                Yesaul, Yesaul,
                you left the country
                and your horse under the saddle of a stranger!
            4. dmitriygorshkov
              dmitriygorshkov April 1 2014 15: 42
              +12
              Quote: xsapranx
              For the last 6 years, all the exercises were either from Romania or from the Hungarians. Never considered a stab in the back (after all, you were guarantors)

              Stab in the back? All of Russia runs and shouts: "Khakhlov to the knives"?
              Are you my friend! Are you like a thinking person, who is going to hit someone in the back? Are we? Or are you, after all?
              1. xsapranx
                xsapranx April 1 2014 21: 52
                -1
                Why run? I just "came politely (without an invitation), and there, as it were," there is little choice "or did we come to the Kursk region and asked back? In my opinion, no.
                Here we are trying to move away from February 18-22 and prevent the spread of fire throughout the country
                I agree the timing is well chosen, the army, like the entire state machine, is in disarray and demoralized is not "help"?
                "Bendorovtsi" in Simferopol sounds awful for the Russian ear (and were they there?) I only know about the VL and true Russian patriots like this resident of St. Petersburg
                http://news.liga.net/news/politics/1117091-odesskikh_separatistov_treniruet_neon
                atsist_iz_sankt_peterburga_.htm
                such holy simplicity http://vesti.ua/odessa/45090-anton-raevskij-moi-nacistskie-tatuirovki-ne-pomesha
                li-najti-obwij-jazyk-s-bojcami-odesskoj-druzhiny
                1. afdjhbn67
                  afdjhbn67 April 2 2014 06: 41
                  0
                  and hold a referendum in the Kursk region for God's sake ...
            5. salamandra2826
              salamandra2826 April 1 2014 22: 57
              0
              Do not push on conscience. About feeding a foreign army I agree, but who prevents the army from being common? Again, I am the Nazi face, which stands on the sidelines?
              1. xsapranx
                xsapranx April 1 2014 23: 04
                -6
                and to me the Common Army, as if not why I swore allegiance to the "people of Ukraine", I have no obsessions about domination in the whole world and hedgehog with them ... Everything is simple and prosaic without empty slogans.
                I want my children to live better than me without the help of others ...
                1. Suhow
                  Suhow April 2 2014 01: 04
                  +1
                  do you think that it’s better with NATO? I give that, in the future, we need them to use NATO .. ​​and as soon as the US-Europe confrontation with the Russian spadetto block us and will send. And the fraternal peoples will solve their problems over time.
                2. Turkir
                  Turkir April 2 2014 01: 33
                  +4
                  Judging by the level of understanding of the situation, your children will be taught by the teachers of the "Right Sector". Ruth.
                3. abdrah
                  abdrah April 2 2014 02: 35
                  +4
                  Quote: xsapranx
                  I want my children to live better than me without the help of others ...


                  Go 23 years as the whole outskirts want a better life for the children, and why should you be shy, yourself. One generation has already asked for it, the kids didn’t live better, so they decided to radically improve the life of the whole country on the Maidan, so that almost like in Union-d
                  You’ve got a five-year plan in 3 years, and you decided to immediately slander everything that the USSR left for you and that for 23 years you couldn’t ruin.
                  Come on, flaw! Yul for the presidency, or a parashenka at worst, but just don't tell the descendants of a fairy tale about the next famine - that they say the rosiyaka took the Crimea and the fleet and the Raguli couldn't catch a goldfish so that the great dream of outskirts "independence" and prosperity would come true.
                4. Crimean
                  Crimean April 2 2014 11: 27
                  +1
                  Yo-mine, but how to explain something! Buddy (let me call you that), I just like you want my children to live better than me. But your words (... and without someone else's advice) angered me !!! Yes, for all the years of "independence" Ukraine has always been under pin..dos and gayrope! All whims were fulfilled on demand! They looked at RUSSIA as flawed, and bargained and bargained all the time. If you cannot admit to yourself that you have already been bought with giblets, then this is your problem. But this is a fact, and not a secret one. And in Crimea, no one tells me what language to speak, they don't raise a communal flat and don't cut pensions and social benefits. They do not beat with bats, do not burn with cocktails, do not torture in basements. You will of course say that this is not true and the propaganda of the Kremlin,
                  but people are not blind and see and read everything in nete. And I am happy (like everyone in the Crimea) that we are in Russia, which I also wish you. Think, analyze and compare the facts, do not let yourself be deceived!
                  1. xsapranx
                    xsapranx April 2 2014 14: 21
                    -1
                    I am sincerely happy for you. God forbid that everyone would continue to live happily in the Crimea. (miss the moment of trade and spheres of influence in Ukraine)
                    For myself personally, there will be only a few inconveniences associated with the "Silver of Crimea" and Kagort from the Sun Valley, but I hope that I will find a solution.
              2. afdjhbn67
                afdjhbn67 April 2 2014 06: 43
                0
                God forbid from such associates, in 1991 they got rid of them, otherwise we would have plundered our army
            6. Suhow
              Suhow April 2 2014 00: 43
              -3
              and for sho minus? If, in all honesty, Crimea is a full house, without blood and in agreement with the local majority.
              1. Orik
                Orik April 2 2014 00: 51
                +4
                Quote: Suhow
                and for sho minus? If, in all honesty, Crimea is a full house, without blood and in agreement with the local majority.

                We are bypassing, because our conscience is different, it brings news from different sources. Anschluss for you, but for us the REUNION of the Russian lands has begun. Time will tell who is right!
              2. Turkir
                Turkir April 2 2014 01: 43
                +3
                I didn't minus. Only the "Anschluss" is from another opera, especially when the "local majority" are Russians.
                You probably understand that when the Ukrainian Khrushchev handed over the Russian Crimea along with people like a box of chocolates to Ukraine, then this is simply called theft.
        3. avt
          avt April 1 2014 13: 39
          +11
          Quote: xsapranx
          Thanks to your "attention", we have a ghostly chance (such a small little - but a CHANCE!)
          laughing
          Why small and ghostly. Here on the site, in addition to the tank game, they also advertise the aviation game. So, you may well make a victory in the air. And if another "space battle" is launched, so in general you can call the entire galaxy in the virtual independent Ukraine. Here you have there just now, Darth Vaderko registered for the presidency - choose and organize the release of the globe of the galaxy of Ukraine. In the meantime, practice flying on foot.
          1. xsapranx
            xsapranx April 1 2014 13: 44
            0
            it would be more correct to "walk along the tank" but oh well, and so, too, let it be better for you ...
            1. dmitriygorshkov
              dmitriygorshkov April 1 2014 15: 51
              +13
              Quote: xsapranx
              it would be more correct to "walk along the tank" but oh well, and so, too, let it be better for you ...

              Vadim, wake up! You’re an intelligent person, do you really believe in something that’s being poured into your ears? Who are you going to fight with? One fool has already written here, they say Ukraine will live better than Russia, it can’t imagine by its nearness and anger, that if everything is going to be good in Ukraine, then this is only for us JOY! We won’t go out of bile!
              Enemies are those who force them to cut military equipment, organize Maidan, kill people on the streets ... yes, what I like to you as a little one!
              1. xsapranx
                xsapranx April 1 2014 22: 00
                0
                Honestly, I myself already doubt that I am "smart" since there is no sense of accomplishment to the Motherland.
                The other day I met with my former cadets who came from Feodosia. The bitterness and disappointment that they experienced is simply beyond words. I'm waiting for information about their co-workers, they were in Perevalnoye (Pozdeev Lesha, Ivanov Dima), well, it was still a good idea to talk to Misha Sadovnik, otherwise it’s absolutely the opposite infa on him, I’m actually "snot-agitprom", it would not be easier to talk to the participants ...
          2. dmitrij.blyuz
            dmitrij.blyuz April 1 2014 14: 04
            +3
            AVT got angry! Schucher! I'm burrowing! laughing
          3. Setrac
            Setrac April 1 2014 17: 59
            +2
            Quote: avt
            .And if some kind of "space battle" is launched

            It already exists, the same as airplanes, only in space. Those are jack eggs, only on the side.
        4. sv68
          sv68 April 1 2014 14: 05
          +2
          what chance is to destroy everything that remains of the army? you already use this chance to the fullest
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        6. TEODOR
          TEODOR April 1 2014 14: 53
          +5
          Quote: xsapranx
          Thanks to your "attention", we have a ghostly chance (such a small little - but a CHANCE!)

          Thanks to our attention, a big chance appeared in the Crimea. And a small chance to get a big one in the eastern regions of Ukraine.
        7. soln2304
          soln2304 April 1 2014 14: 59
          +3
          The chance you have appeared to plunder American rations. And to restore the Air Force - it is necessary to WORK !!!!
        8. Eydolon
          Eydolon April 1 2014 15: 21
          +1
          xsapranx lick more amerskie asses? I congratulate you already used this chance and I think soon extend the term of use as toilet paper already
        9. Suhow
          Suhow April 2 2014 00: 34
          0
          in the current state and different opinions, a chance where ???
        10. Mestny
          Mestny April 2 2014 09: 04
          0
          There is always a chance. You will have a chance to die heroically for your own, like her ... Ukraine. To do this, nothing is needed - to join NATO. And then you are guaranteed happiness. Full bloomers.
      2. TAMERLAN 7
        TAMERLAN 7 April 1 2014 13: 13
        +7
        Quote: Rus2012
        failed country, poor people ...

        They have this saying:
        "Why are you b_dniy? Bo stupid!
        Why is he so stupid? Bo bidniy! "
        (Why are you poor? Because bad!
        Why are you bad? Because poor!)
        That says it all! Themselves the whole country mutilated and plundered! As in the "heart of a dog" the doctor said? To paraphrase: "Of course they will be in ruin if they start urinating past the toilet!"
        1. oblako
          oblako April 1 2014 15: 00
          +26
          Well, Tamerlane, for some reason I don't really like that ours raged in the comments, as if we had all the issues with corruption and with faith in the government resolved. Yes, and our well-being is all right. We're kind of rich and don't pee past the toilet. We raised ourselves a little and act according to Zhvanetsky: "What do you want to do when you go up? - Spit down!" We were always different in hindsight ... Didn't you think they cut their equipment to please the owners? Or did we not make our Central Bank a branch of the US Federal Reserve? So I must, I think, to moderate my ardor. People are in trouble. As we were in the 90s. People will live and rise, either with us or without us. Ukraine will fall apart - will we rejoice, dance on the shards? After all, people's anger and the Maidan is a response to a corrupt regime, very similar to ours, only exaggerated. The whole question is what saddled this wave of anger prepared Bendera and fascists. They must be treated with appropriate methods. These are US special forces operations and soft power tactics. What have we opposed? How do we save the brotherly people, if we truly believe so? Israel found everyone for the Munich terror and shot them many years later. PMCs of our spill could have dealt with the leaders of these bandits long ago. And it is not for us to tell which way to go further. They themselves have a snout in such fluff that they may not even hear us. We will live in truth, and in abundance, not only Ukrainians will follow us, but the whole world, and for now we cannot offer anything worthwhile ourselves - attempts to drag us into our customs union is just a competition of huge economic entities for markets, for spheres of influence. An attempt to oppose a less efficient economy to a more efficient one in the hope that playing by these rules we will be able to survive and overcome competitors. But playing by these rules we do not become different. Corruption is the result of the operation of an objective law, according to which the initial accumulation of capital takes place, only not on the scale of the state, but personally ... if they want, they may not be caught, or they may not be imprisoned, but everyone around them is doing this ... In short, it's too early for us to turn up our nose! themselves from the shit can not be seen. Although there seem to be signs of awareness among the leadership, again thanks to Ukraine for a lesson for all of us.
          1. TAMERLAN 7
            TAMERLAN 7 April 1 2014 15: 30
            +10
            Quote: oblako
            as if we had all issues with corruption and faith in the government resolved. And our well-being is all right.

            Both Ukraine and Russia are parts of the USSR, and fraternal peoples (one mentality)! What has been said to Ukraine can be attributed to Russia as well, only Russia has emerged from this state and is gaining momentum, while Ukraine itself is crawling deeper into the need, so that it can be deafened!
            Quote: oblako
            People are in trouble.
            We drove ourselves into this misfortune and drove the Natsik, thought - everything will work out. And it was necessary to go along with Russia, and not curtsy to Europe to weigh!
            Quote: oblako
            In short, our nose is bullying! themselves out of shit not to be seen. Although the leadership seems to have some signs of awareness, again, thanks to Ukraine for the lesson for all of us.
            Yaroslav, thanks to people like you who are aware of the reality (even if sometimes bitterly), Russia has always come out of all the many crises and surprised enemies when it was reborn like a phoenix from the ashes! Self-criticism is a very valuable trait! Shake your hand! drinks
            Ukraine is distinguished from Russia precisely by the lack of self-criticism, and therefore it is ..... hopeless!
          2. Suhow
            Suhow April 2 2014 01: 10
            +1
            reasonably written. respect.
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    11. xsapranx
      xsapranx April 1 2014 13: 06
      +33
      The collective of commentators and the drawings are the same ...
      The sad article ...
      The essence of everything is simple-- they respect and talk only with the strong, the rest are simply exchanged.
      1. Slavkovich
        Slavkovich April 1 2014 14: 21
        +5
        The article is a statement of fact, but about the bargaining chip - you are unfortunately right .... But who prevented the authorities from thinking about the army, aviation and navy?
        1. _Krechet_
          _Krechet_ April 2 2014 11: 43
          0
          Then the social network would sink. Or this or that. There is no money for anything and never will be.
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      2. Azzi
        Azzi April 1 2014 14: 32
        +16
        Many of those present here forgot our army of the 90s, forgot Serdyukov with his reforms and closed schools. There is some sort of euphoria and an overestimation of opportunities. The fact that we are cooler than our poor fellow neighbors, that we have come to our senses in recent years, is no reason to ridicule our neighbor. They themselves are not that far and have gone, regarding a potential adversary, God forbid, to catch up by the time it hits, because it will almost certainly hit.
        "The essence of everything is simple - they respect and talk only with the strong, the rest are simply exchanged." - I subscribe to every word. May God grant that we are strong.
      3. salamandra2826
        salamandra2826 April 1 2014 23: 06
        0
        Have you forgotten Karamzin? And strength when we were together
    12. rugor
      rugor April 1 2014 13: 07
      +13
      Gradually, everything fell into place - Ukrainian aviation came into line with the status of a banana republic.

      Expected, sad, even a little annoying.
    13. indiggo
      indiggo April 1 2014 13: 09
      +5
      Well Che say prosrali their aircraft ... it is good that we had the mind not to step on the rake. generally a miserable sight from the Ukrainian Air Force. sad
    14. REDBLUE
      REDBLUE April 1 2014 13: 12
      +10
      All pros.r.a.l.i. And there was such a reserve. It's a shame for the Ukrainian Air Force officers
      1. Old Cynic
        Old Cynic April 1 2014 13: 18
        +10
        Yeah ... I remember the village of Sary near Gadyach (Mom comes from there) ... He was a kid - every year from Donetsk they went to Grandma ... So from the flights of the Mirgorod school from morning to evening there was a rumble in the sky. A maximum of 10 minutes was interrupted - and again another one turns to the sky ...

        Nostalgia, Mlyn ... What country was ... sad
    15. LIS 25
      LIS 25 April 1 2014 13: 14
      +8
      sorry for the work of Soviet people. sad
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    16. Gagarin
      Gagarin April 1 2014 13: 17
      +20
      I could not read it, I reached the point in the article about cutting aircraft and it hurt ...
      TRAITORS !!!
      1. TAMERLAN 7
        TAMERLAN 7 April 1 2014 13: 28
        +1
        Quote: Gagarin
        I could not read it, I reached the point in the article about cutting aircraft and it hurt ...
        TRAITORS !!!
        This is on the one hand. And on the other? Suppose that everything that hit Ukraine would remain normal and even multiply. How would Bandera now jump with 10 Tu-160, 19 Tu-95MS and 1100 units of other planes, and even several hundred new planes that a smart country either built or bought in 23 years of independence? It is difficult to draw definite conclusions in such a country!
        1. Riperbahn
          Riperbahn April 1 2014 14: 06
          +14
          A smart country would not get to Bandera !!! So everything is natural.
          1. TAMERLAN 7
            TAMERLAN 7 April 1 2014 15: 37
            +3
            Quote: Riperbahn
            A smart country would not get to Bandera !!!

            Did Germany reach fascism and Hitler? In a world where centuries-old values ​​are replaced by US values, it is tempting to maintain a power that promises strength, order and opportunity to be proud of its nation! Another thing is that Ukraine is really a very unreasonable country! crying
            1. Setrac
              Setrac April 1 2014 18: 02
              0
              Quote: TAMERLAN 7
              Did Germany reach fascism and Hitler?

              So not the valley itself, it was "reached" by the Anlo-Saxons, although it is correct to say - the Zionists.
            2. Turkir
              Turkir April 2 2014 02: 03
              +1
              You wrote a little higher about self-criticism and rightly so.
              And what about Germany, why on earth should I consider it smart and self-critical?
              Hitler grew up on the Bismarck, the "heroes" of 1870. The nationalist frenzy began even then, continued in the 1st when German farmers finished off the Russian soldiers of General Samsonov.
              And in the second, the brave German guys slaughtered women and children and burned them in barns, hung and acted and filmed all this in a photograph to show them to their wives, children and grandchildren.
              AND Proud of their nation and are now proud and demand, but demand, a return of values ​​.. Ready for their money to create cemeteries, their executioner soldiers, on OUR LAND.
              I didn’t give a damn about them.
              They have never been and never will be, for me, a measure of any human values.
          2. AVIATOR36662
            AVIATOR36662 April 1 2014 16: 54
            +4
            A country cannot be smart or stupid. This power in a country can consist of thieves and traitors, murderers and rapists, or maybe economists and lawyers, cultural workers, scientists and the power bloc. Unfortunately, Ukraine has long been the first in power, and now it’s even more. The country with the people in F ... but the top is entirely millionaires and billionaires, they live in palaces, only executive class cars, real estate and business abroad of Ukraine. Not only for beautiful eyes, all this, just for the collapse of the country , army, including the air force.
            1. Turkir
              Turkir April 2 2014 02: 20
              0
              Sorry, but a country can be stupid or smart or even cowardly.
              Mostly, depending on the majority.
        2. maturity
          maturity April 1 2014 14: 28
          +5
          If all this had remained normal, then there would have been no Maidan, Yaitseniukhov, drawbar and others. Dee and Ukraine would be in the vehicle.
        3. Good cat
          Good cat April 1 2014 14: 42
          +6
          What happened happened, but I think that in a strong state Bandera would not have started. They’re gangsters, and gangsters do not think in state categories. And so it turns out: there is a state with airplanes - there are no bandits, there is a weak state without airplanes - here they are, gentlemen, right there. Regarding the sales of equipment, they sold it all as best they could. In HVVAURE stood MI-26, flew under its own power in the 90th or 91st. The engine from it to Angola was sold by graduates of this school. Well, not at all
          1. Poldol
            Poldol April 1 2014 15: 20
            +3
            Why don't Somali pirates have warships? Because pirates (especially Somali). So Bandera has neither aviation, nor a fleet, nor an army. Only the old rifle. (See the list of the seized in Lviv - AK, PPSh, even Thompson's PP - weapons of Amer’s gangsters of Prohibition)
          2. 311ove
            311ove April 1 2014 16: 23
            +1
            Oh how! And I'm from there !!! I didn’t find these years, but in June I was at the jubilee meeting, so there was almost no ground equipment left there ..... It's a sad picture, I'll tell you, there I understood, Wait, all the "aviation professions" have been collected, but .... well .... in general, "somehow empty" .... drinks hi
            Quote: Good cat
            HVVAURE was MI-26
            1. Good cat
              Good cat April 2 2014 13: 34
              0
              There is not even half a house, but there was the only school in the union
        4. tasey
          tasey April 1 2014 14: 56
          +1
          If it were as you say (about the development of the country), then there would be no Bandera.
        5. Setrac
          Setrac April 1 2014 18: 02
          +2
          Quote: TAMERLAN 7
          Suppose that everything that hit Ukraine would remain normal and even multiply. How would Bandera now jump with 10 Tu-160, 19 Tu-95MS and 1100 units of other planes, and even several hundred new planes that a smart country either built or bought in 23 years of independence?

          If the army were normal, Bandera would have broken off initially, as for example, separatists in Kazakhstan had broken off.
      2. Revolver
        Revolver April 1 2014 21: 37
        -1
        Quote: Gagarin
        I could not read it, I reached the point in the article about cutting aircraft and it hurt ...
        TRAITORS !!!

        Yes, cut - this is not the worst option. And think, if the Chinese got them on the cheap, just like the Varyag aircraft carrier and the carrier-based SU-27K were swallowed up? Now a Chinese copier would throw out copies of the TU-22M and TU-160. Well, it’s the entire European part would be within range, but it’s a thread, except for the Chinese themselves, right?
        1. alicante11
          alicante11 April 2 2014 06: 18
          -1
          No need to scare yellow danger again. Tu-22 Chinese would be much more useful against the Amer fleet, and Tu-160 against Amer military bases in TO. And what should they do in our European part of the territory?
          1. Revolver
            Revolver April 3 2014 07: 32
            0
            Quote: alicante11
            And what should they do in our European part of the territory?

            What they can do best is bomb.
    17. Artem1967
      Artem1967 April 1 2014 13: 18
      +3
      Aviation, like the navy, is a highly effective, but at the same time, very vulnerable type of armed forces. All the problems in the state in the first place (underfunding, interruptions in routine maintenance, lack of raids and access to the sea) are reflected in them in terms of a sharp decrease in combat readiness and safety of equipment. Conclusion: a strong state is a strong aviation and navy, but there is no trial.
    18. nikcris
      nikcris April 1 2014 13: 20
      +7
      Quote: indiggo
      Well Che say prosrali their aircraft ... it is good that we had the mind not to step on the rake. generally a miserable sight from the Ukrainian Air Force. sad

      Go out to Google and take a look from outer space at the Engelje airbase. Tum all Tu-160 assembled. The price of each under a billion bucks. Every twelve missiles can kill anyone. See how they are stored. I roll a film of tandoor in the country for the winter.
      PS On the site only Hooray.
      am
      1. aviamed90
        aviamed90 April 1 2014 13: 33
        +6
        nikcris

        I confirm.

        Problems with the Tu-160 exist.
        Technical problems (spare parts, engines, etc.).

        The reason is the current state of the aviation industry in Russia.
      2. Samurai3X
        Samurai3X April 1 2014 13: 47
        +3
        To let you know, the latest pictures from space on Google Maps were taken 4 or 5 years ago. So a lot could change.
        But there are always problems. The uncle also told how earlier in the 80's it was often necessary to carry out maintenance for new aircraft. Something was practically turned on my knee)

        Therefore, the main thing is that the problem is solved. Slowly modernizing plants, etc.
        Especially Tu-160 is an offensive weapon. And now basically the Triad is being restored. There are a lot of hopes at C-500.
        In general, we have the most "modern" missile-carrying aircraft. In the United States, it is generally B-52.
        This is not a primary task.
        1. nikcris
          nikcris April 1 2014 14: 43
          +4
          I didn’t understand anything at all from your post.
          "And now, basically, the Triad is being restored. There are a lot of hopes on the S-500." - this is not nonsense?
          "This is not the first priority." - and this is not nonsense?
          "Moreover, the Tu-160 is an offensive weapon" - I will fall off the couch right now - and what is defensive in the sky?
    19. Stasi
      Stasi April 1 2014 13: 24
      +8
      Not only aviation but also the entire Ukrainian army goes into oblivion. And the saddest thing is that Ukraine itself goes into oblivion, without noticing this in the frenzy of the Maidan. All this fascist junta, usurped power is ready to flee to the West with the oligarchy, leaving the Ukrainian people to survive and arbitrariness.
      1. VeteranS
        VeteranS April 1 2014 13: 45
        +2
        And at the same time stealing the country's gold reserves and priceless Scythian gold ... it seems that Yaitsenyuk especially succeeded in this?
        In any case, the current illegal government in Kiev is anti-people and criminal!
        1. xsapranx
          xsapranx April 1 2014 13: 48
          +6
          Thanks again for your opinion, but what is illegal and anti-popular, please leave it exclusively to us (that is, the indigenous people) We will somehow decide who we want and who the saints ... frets?
          1. sv68
            sv68 April 1 2014 14: 11
            +8
            you can’t decide anything, everything has been decided for you by your masters, by the way, we won’t endure the humiliation of the RUSSIAN people for a long time, we’ll just take our land home to Russia
          2. avt
            avt April 1 2014 14: 11
            +11
            Quote: xsapranx
            Thanks again for your opinion, but what is illegal and anti-popular, please leave it exclusively to us (that is, the indigenous people) We will somehow decide who we want and who the saints ... frets?

            That's for sure ! But exactly until the moment when it does not touch the vital interests of neighbors and the Players of the Big Game. Here call your friend, it is not for you to decide how you will play on the “great chessboard.” Since Ukraine lost its chance to become a Player, having quite strong starting positions in 1991 in pursuit of creating a single, great, ancient, until the village unknown nation That would be a clever Nekravchuk and his comrades, would create instead of the Outskirts some kind of Kiev Rus with a central, in terms of geography, city of Europe, Kiev, but with a return, not a split, the center of Orthodoxy to the Kiev Lavra. get what you have and rejoice that a simple and clear fact is not being voiced for the players of the Big Game - Ukraine is bankrupt, both in economic and political sense. The truth about the power of the GDP has already been announced and the fate of the project "Ukraine1991" is being decided with its owners - the USA , not even with the European Union, with it only graters go so that they do not do stupid things with various sanctions, and to ourselves, we are familiar, not in the first.
          3. dmitriygorshkov
            dmitriygorshkov April 1 2014 17: 00
            +8
            Quote: xsapranx
            Thanks again for your opinion, but what is illegal and anti-popular, please leave it exclusively to us (that is, the indigenous people) We will somehow decide who we want and who the saints ... frets?

            No Vadim! Not frets!
            It would be okay if you, after your "peaceful revolution", would start building a bright tomorrow. At least as part of the EU, at least together with Guinea-Bissau! It's a shame, of course, that they are not with us, but as they say, "You cannot be cute!"
            But! Having seized power, the country launched anti-Russian hysteria! It voiced plans to tear away the Russian lands, and turned the Russian murder into a fun street song!
            And after all this, and so much more, are you telling me LADA ????
            NO! NOT frets!
            1. xsapranx
              xsapranx April 2 2014 01: 07
              +2
              Well, not frets, that means not frets No.
              If you have enough spirit, then everything will be relatively fast and it will cost for the first time for Russia where 1000 people were killed and Ukrainians somewhere from 5 yew. up to 7 yew. True, this is only on the "first" then as in a ditty about deeper into the forest. From the side of Chernihiv, your elite units can issue a dash to Kiev in 2-3 hours (there is no one to physically oppose them in this direction) The snag will only be in Kiev and then no more than 30-40 minutes. True, what will happen in the morning in the future, I honestly cannot vouch, since making forecasts in Ukraine is an thankless task. (Maybe with bread and salt, or maybe you can't guess with a pitchfork)
              Kharkov, the key to the division of Ukraine and its breakdown (good location + blessed attitude to Russia), in addition, it was already in history (a reason to get from the sleeve of Yanyk)
              Or you can act like in a fight (which is very similar to VV Putin)
              Suppress the United States, disrupt the May 25 elections, put Timoshenchikha on the throne (fortunately, you have compromising evidence on her like a fool of candy wrappers), impose a new constitution, and through it federalization, conduct a chain of "actions" and through "death with a scythe" based on local "referendums" to facilitate the supply of the "unsinkable aircraft carrier-Crimea" + various "bonuses for which some Claudia have already erased wassat
          4. thimble
            thimble April 1 2014 20: 58
            0
            But the fact of the matter is that the people, as a rule, do not solve anything. The oligarchs and others like them decide.
        2. Val_y
          Val_y April 1 2014 14: 24
          +3
          Duc uzho hay yaytsenyukh stole all Ukrainian reddish, so to speak, he created an insurance policy for himself, but I remember nothing there was an operation to return the stolen valuables to the USSR (in my opinion, the "Cross" was called) hi
        3. nikcris
          nikcris April 1 2014 14: 54
          +1
          This ... egg-laying egg can be arbitrarily arbitrarily, but in the word priceless only a resident of Volkov and Urfun can write Z. With greetings hi
          1. Val_y
            Val_y April 1 2014 16: 07
            +2
            I didn’t understand something, Dear, what did you want to say something (ali being rude or I didn’t understand your joke on April 1st after all) hi
    20. ZU-23
      ZU-23 April 1 2014 13: 29
      +4
      No words, only tears and a sense of humiliation for Ukraine, just like for Russia in the 90s and early 2000s.
    21. Arkan
      Arkan April 1 2014 13: 31
      +2
      Purposeful destruction of the armed forces of Ukraine, on the face. And, after all, many of the "leaders" of this country, started back in the USSR. Kravchuk, and others like him, adopted the ideas of nationalism.
    22. Roman 1977
      Roman 1977 April 1 2014 13: 34
      +13
      Of course, the "curses of the mos.k.a.l.i" are to blame ...
      Did they do that too?

      or that?

      or is it this?

      1. Dusk
        Dusk April 1 2014 13: 54
        +11
        The soul is torn to pieces at the sight of these frames. So much work was spent on the construction and take everything to cut. Terribly! sad
        1. Eydolon
          Eydolon April 1 2014 15: 27
          +2
          Americans don’t cope with this, they closed their stealth, as soon as it was fucked up, from our old Sovkovskaya))
      2. wizarden
        wizarden April 1 2014 14: 46
        +1
        That's why there was a cut? It was possible to sell to Russia.
        1. nikcris
          nikcris April 1 2014 15: 01
          0
          Duck schAZZZZ! For gas on pidtsyat? But nevermind did not see? We, free Ukrainians will live in Europe - in the morning, do not give, but take.
          Who understood, that will understand.
      3. dmitrij.blyuz
        dmitrij.blyuz April 1 2014 14: 57
        +1
        Damn it! Romych! You are tearing your soul.
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      5. TEODOR
        TEODOR April 1 2014 14: 59
        +1
        No words, no mats
      6. salamandra2826
        salamandra2826 April 1 2014 23: 13
        0
        Well done !! ! men from the Air Force who flew over and saved the ships ...
        1. xsapranx
          xsapranx April 1 2014 23: 17
          -1
          Duc! no matter how anyone argues, they did the right thing! (as the heart prompted, they did so)
    23. Orc-xnumx
      Orc-xnumx April 1 2014 13: 36
      +3
      Once again they strained their asses - they drained military aviation!
    24. VeteranS
      VeteranS April 1 2014 13: 39
      +2
      In Soviet times, a part of the Long-Range Aviation was located in Poltava with a powerful grouping of aircraft of various types (during my service I was there when the South 1971 exercises were taking place) .... It is easier to destroy than to create, so let Ukrainian politicians not look for enemies among neighbors. " Square ", but they will ask themselves for the collapse of their Armed Forces.
      God save Russia and Holy Russia!
      1. Suhow
        Suhow April 2 2014 01: 23
        0
        Uzin airfield strategists were there ...
    25. leon17
      leon17 April 1 2014 13: 41
      +2
      The Americans wanted to push the Ukrainian army with Russia. They broke off when they themselves saw that all the equipment had collapsed and rotted.
    26. Kornilovets
      Kornilovets April 1 2014 13: 55
      +4
      I would call the article wrong !!!

      Ukrainian Air Force: (interrupted flight), converted into country villas, Maybachs, Lexus and "dachas" on the Cote d'Azur ...

      laughter and sin, and now the radio, the zombie box to a simple resident of Ukraine, discard SMS (worth 5 UAH) and help the army, supposedly the people and the army are united .... Circus ... Bred ordinary people ...
    27. SILAnov
      SILAnov April 1 2014 13: 58
      +3
      Well, why doesn’t anyone understand? Who is the enemy of Ukraine? Who is the enemy of Russia?
      The time will come and we will analyze the air force of our "partners", I hope Ukraine will be with us !!!
    28. Vtel
      Vtel April 1 2014 14: 00
      +6
      Taperech to them the Yankees will put an ingenious super-secret weapon especially for banderlogs. With planes they say anyone can.
    29. Commander
      Commander April 1 2014 14: 00
      +5
      Such an armada was !!! In this story, the saddest thing is when dalniki were cut !!!! Not yourself, nor people! Dog in the manger! Now there is only one dog left, and the hay is just ... al.
    30. Giant thought
      Giant thought April 1 2014 14: 02
      +2
      There is a saying: the Poles survived to the bare .raki, but here we will talk about the Ukrainians. How many doughs were cut down by the independent glavnyuk in Ukraine, when they put everything into disrepair, and the people thought: the armor is strong, and our tanks are fast, and further on in the song.
    31. Ivan Tucha
      Ivan Tucha April 1 2014 14: 04
      +1
      Sad article ...
    32. polite people
      polite people April 1 2014 14: 08
      +17
      Comparison of the US Armed Forces RUSSIA UKRAINE !!!
      1. xsapranx
        xsapranx April 1 2014 14: 12
        +1
        yes - yes a very significant comparison - thank you winked
        1. hommer
          hommer April 1 2014 15: 23
          +23
          Quote: xsapranx
          yes - yes a very significant comparison - thank you


          And do not be offended. The people here are harsh on the site, the truth cuts the uterus. For 23 years it was possible to find and choose a sane leader, now it would not be so offensive. And they wouldn’t have reached such a life, any normal politician would have said - the future is with Russia, and not with the cheaters of the West.
          I look not only at Russian sites, but also at Ukrainian sites, and this is what I noted - Russians do not have hatred of Ukrainians, only regret and resentment of ingratitude. I do not consider single clinical cases. But on Ukrainian sites - hatred, anger is already burning. One wrote that his grandmother would sell pies poisoned for m. Oskaly on the highway. And how many likes they threw him!
          How did the Kazakhs generally react that Crimea is now Russian, ask?
          Moreover, several regions of the north of Kazakhstan are also dominated by the Russian population.
          - Putin did poorly, but if he didn’t, it would have been even worse - that’s the main opinion, at least in my circle.
          And we, I think, will not have this, Kazakhs do not have Russophobia so crazy. With Natsiks (there are, there are) in our forums we fight, shut up.
          And I want you to understand more quickly - you don’t need anyone in the West, there Bulgarians, Romanians and others do not know what to do.
          We have decided for a long time.
          1. dmitrij.blyuz
            dmitrij.blyuz April 1 2014 15: 30
            +5
            Askhat! Thanks for the video!
          2. xsapranx
            xsapranx April 2 2014 00: 45
            -2
            That's your right! You have chosen and entrusted your fate to your government! and it is YOUR right. If your leaders do everything for your good and care about you, then this is only a positive example and a reason for greeting.
            ... For this, please, do not touch us in this matter. We ourselves will try to figure everything out and agree.
            1. hommer
              hommer April 2 2014 10: 58
              0
              Quote: xsapranx
              Therefore, please, do not touch us in this matter. We ourselves will try to figure everything out and agree.


              And this is not even discussed. Of course, only you have to decide.
              Just worried about you, tea is not strangers.
              If we were strangers, we all would not care what was going on there.
            2. Good cat
              Good cat April 2 2014 13: 40
              0
              how do you want? What would you doused us all the way, and no one would touch you? everyone deserves what they get
      2. PSih2097
        PSih2097 April 1 2014 14: 17
        +3
        Quote: polite people
        Comparison of the US Armed Forces RUSSIA UKRAINE !!!

        Offset ... laughing good
      3. dmitrij.blyuz
        dmitrij.blyuz April 1 2014 15: 27
        0
        I'll show the guys. Class! good
        1. hommer
          hommer April 1 2014 19: 45
          +1
          drinks I will be glad that you show. Guess from three times, for whom the Kazakhs at the World Cup will cheer? wink
          1. OST_51RU
            OST_51RU April 1 2014 20: 57
            +1
            Remember, if you watched the World Cup in Sochi, the short track competition.
            I was struck by how Viktor An (Russia) became the champion - only thanks to the accidental fall of the Kazakh athlete, one lag behind.
            I personally do not believe that this is an accident .... anyway, we are together.
      4. Eydolon
        Eydolon April 1 2014 15: 29
        +2
        no need to say))
    33. Alexey
      Alexey April 1 2014 14: 13
      +2
      I apologize for the OF! Just to cheer up http://vvv-ig.livejournal.com/662167.html - an encyclopedia of ukrofeykov. Recommend
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    35. ALEKS419
      ALEKS419 April 1 2014 14: 17
      +2
      Quote: leon17
      The Americans wanted to push the Ukrainian army with Russia. They broke off when they themselves saw that all the equipment had collapsed and rotted.
      It's too early to talk about it. So fighting is nothing less than a fact. Americans are capable of embarking on a vile adventure to clash two fraternal peoples.
      I am glad that in the place of weapons of the pin.d.su they brought dry poiki. God forbid if they are intended for the Ukrainian military ..
      And if for yourself ??? We need to think about it. repeat repeat
    36. Ruswolf
      Ruswolf April 1 2014 14: 19
      +1
      17 hours of average annual! Laughter through tears!
      According to the standard, I have at least 25 hours per month of work under water.
      If we bring to our standards - 2750 hours for retirement, it turns out that Ukrainian pilots do not retire alive!
    37. kmike
      kmike April 1 2014 14: 28
      +8
      My brother, after graduating from military school, was sent to serve in Odessa, a young officer and his family rented a house from the locals. Then there was the division of the Soviet Union, taking the oath. My brother refused to take the Ukrainian oath, wrote a report and quit. So, the apartment owners told him that if he leaves for Russia, he will die of starvation, that Ukraine feeds all of Russia, Russia cannot survive without Ukraine. What am I for? And in the USSR there was the most powerful army in the world, and now in Russia a powerful army is much more powerful than our former compatriots, and the standard of living in Russia is higher. So it turns out: who kept whom in the Soviet Union? who fed whom? Who lived in the USSR at someone else's expense? THE ANSWER IS UNDERSTOOD EVEN FOOL!
      1. OST_51RU
        OST_51RU April 1 2014 21: 45
        +1
        Let's not confuse 1991 with 2014. At the time of the collapse of the USSR, Ukraine had the most modern, most advanced industry in the Union, and agriculture also did not lag behind.
        And what did the Kravchuk, Kuchma and other thieves with the Ukrainian economy-all science .....
        1. Turkir
          Turkir April 2 2014 02: 16
          0
          Yes, no one confuses.
          They left a solid jackpot for Ukraine, they didn’t leave it for themselves (this is for the dull), but for Ukraine.
          What was created on this material base? NOTHING.
          Amortization, Painfully clever nationalist leaders of Ukraine was not taken into account. Why? There is no such word in Ukrainian mov.
          Someone struck out. We thought this Russian word.
          There is no stock.
          Come on, come on!
      2. Good cat
        Good cat April 2 2014 13: 43
        0
        I asked the same question to my classmates at the school, they say you screamed in '91 how to live without mosk.kaley, why didn’t you still live? They have nothing to say
    38. A1L9E4K9S
      A1L9E4K9S April 1 2014 14: 32
      +4
      Here are friends, such a scenario was written for us, a clear example of Ukraine, Russia came to its senses in time, throwing away advisers of shit from us. And we didn’t hear and see the liberals from the fifth column, they gave up peace marches, they’re afraid they’ll get to the full wave of the general upsurge of the patriotism of the people. Heroes unfinished hid in the holes.
    39. alex47russ
      alex47russ April 1 2014 14: 37
      +1
      All! These are the last breaths of the Ukrainian air force! Now they will only launch paper planes !!!
      1. kostyan77708
        kostyan77708 April 1 2014 14: 40
        +1
        more precisely, air kites and naval rafts))))))
      2. kostyan77708
        kostyan77708 April 1 2014 14: 40
        +2
        more precisely, air kites and naval rafts))))))
    40. Mviktor
      Mviktor April 1 2014 14: 42
      +3
      We should not blame the banderlogs for what they are doing this consequence, it is necessary to judge the real criminals, those who ruined a great country, until the bastards have all died. If we do not, then there will be followers of these enemies of the fatherland
    41. buzer
      buzer April 1 2014 14: 44
      +2
      I offer a cheap and quick option to restore the Ukrainian Air Force !!! We need to install a catapult on the Maidan. And all the stubborn Maydauns (who do not want to dump the Maidan) with an exclamation of "glory to the Herrroy" to launch from the catapult towards the alleged enemy. The same option can be used as the development of the air defense of Ukraine, as well as the Rocket Forces ... For the money for the revival of NEM's aviation, and in bulk for naive revolutionaries on the Maidan, this is the best way out.
    42. Support
      Support April 1 2014 14: 45
      +1
      Stsuki. They must answer for everything.
    43. sazhka4
      sazhka4 April 1 2014 14: 48
      +3
      It was foolish to think that Nato would not take this opportunity .. Today and now Putin has taken the lead .. So howl and worth it. Naeb ... ali. What to do .. Game .. There are only two players at the moment. (I tried to insert a clip where Obama after the press conference kicks the door open.) I don’t know how, it didn’t work .. The rest of the sixes ..
    44. dmitrij.blyuz
      dmitrij.blyuz April 1 2014 14: 53
      +2
      Quote: PSih2097
      Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
      No, all the same, Publish. Read the info.

      Ukraine’s debt for gas is about 1.5 billion dollars ... Miller said this on March 24, and he also mentioned a tranche of 3 billion dollars ...

      So Miller gave an interview Arguments of the week. The conversation was in rubles. And 1,5 billion shares is a bit too much! This means that Ukraine is no longer on the World map.
      1. avt
        avt April 1 2014 15: 35
        +2
        Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
        So Miller gave an interview. Arguments of the week. The conversation was in rubles. And 1,5 billion shares is a bit too much!
        Yeah, and the total debt, current, is 11 billion, including loans and interest! This is without the "corporate" debts, and there, according to optimistic estimates, well, not less than 30 yards. And what is interesting - the current Kiev kids, that their seats were attached to the administrative chairs, counted claims against Russia for the Crimea for exactly 11 yards! laughing Not a cent less. And what is the funniest thing is that the European Parliament, having discussed and condemned, decided to ask the EU countries to draw up 11 yards of euros into the new budget for a loan for "Ukrainian fat" !!!
        Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
        This means that Ukraine is no longer on the world map.

        ,, Note. I didn't suggest it! " laughing If they are their new, associate friends, or Barak Huseynovich will not write a check somewhere around 50 yards, or better all 100, and one clever Jew from the Israeli intelligence has already spoken about this, then they, being already fur inside, not into pizza, generally it’s not clear where they will fit without soap, not to mention petroleum jelly.
        1. dmitrij.blyuz
          dmitrij.blyuz April 1 2014 16: 34
          +4
          AVT! In Ukraine, there will be no more fat! request They won’t get a check from Barak. They know perfectly well! And, about their desires, for an egg and fur inside!
    45. kelevra
      kelevra April 1 2014 14: 53
      +3
      The authorities would be engaged in less enrichment and division, would now be one of the richest and most powerful country!
    46. Pupon63
      Pupon63 April 1 2014 14: 59
      +4
      As the saying goes "How long is a glass fool ......."! After all, it was full of everything! fool
    47. Twilight
      Twilight April 1 2014 14: 59
      +1
      dmitrij.blyuz (1) RU Today, 13:55 ↑
      No, all the same, Publish. Read the info. ------ Dear namesake, payments for gas go all the same to Zelenenkikh and the debt is $ 1 billion on April 1,711 and the price is now without a discount. Here is the link -http: //russian.rt.com/article/26048
    48. mig31
      mig31 April 1 2014 15: 02
      +3
      Flew .... what presidents were, such and the aircraft remained.
    49. Zomanus
      Zomanus April 1 2014 15: 02
      +3
      Yes, it is unclear how they destroyed it. Sold out for parts. Stupidly they dismantled the working equipment for spare parts for their aircraft and for Eastern European, well, where else are there such aircraft. And if in this situation to estimate the need, then in general it is not surprising that so quickly. In general, Ukraine seems to me a kind of empire of thieves and theft. You can do everything, the main thing is not to climb onto someone else's territory.
    50. Leshka
      Leshka April 1 2014 15: 03
      +2
      they freed all that is possible and all that is impossible laughing