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US helps in the restoration of the Ukrainian Navy

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After the Ukrainian Navy lost the main part of the ship during the Russian military invasion of Crimea (as part of the Ukrainian fleet only the frigate U 130 Getman Sagaidachny and ten small auxiliary vessels and boats remained), the United States decided to provide emergency assistance in restoring the combat potential of the Ukrainian Navy, considering the latter as an important factor in countering the Kremlin’s ambitions in the Black Sea region. According to the American naval portal navygreenhorn.com , The US Navy urgently prepared and began to implement a decision on the quick transfer to Ukraine free of charge for use as patrol ships of two former lighthouse tenders from the US Coast Guard, which are on conservation of the US Navy reserve in Sesun Bay (California) - WLB 307 Planetree and WLB 395 Iris.


US helps in the restoration of the Ukrainian Navy
Former US Coast Guard lighthouse tenders WLB 307 Planetree (near) and WLB 395 Iris on conservation at the US Navy Reserve Fleet in Sassun Bay, California. 15.09.2007 (c) Jack Shell


Both of these vessels were built in 1943-1944 years and belong to the large family of 1000-ton "180-foot" lighthouse ships of the US Coast Guard, built during the Second World War (Planetree refers to the series "B", and Iris - to the series WITH"). The ships of this family were withdrawn from the US Coast Guard in 1990-2000-s, some of which were then transferred in order of assistance for use as patrol ships to other countries (in particular, Nigeria, Ghana, Dominican Republic, El Salvador and Estonia). Planetree and Iris, after being written off from the Coast Guard in 1999 and 1997, respectively, were transferred to the reserve fleet of the US Navy and have since been preserved in Sesun Bay awaiting further participation.

Now their urgent re-entry has begun with the aim of transferring the Ukrainian Navy. Ukrainian flags are expected to be hoisted on both ships in San Francisco "in the next three to four months", after which the ships will be killed in Odessa, where they will be armed - while allegedly equipment and weapons will be used (30-mm artillery AK-630) from the unfinished rocket cruiser Ukraine (former Admiral of the Lobov fleet) project 11641 located in Nikolaev. According to the portal, referring to the data of the Ukrainian military attache in Washington, there are already documents from Kiev about assigning names to both units, “Getman Mazepa” and “Getman Baida-Vishnevetsky”, respectively.

As commander Giuseppe Rosetti (Giuseppe "Gyp" Rosetti), head of the US Navy's program for assisting Ukraine, told the source, "these excellent ships will raise the potential of the Ukrainian Navy to a new level and will become reliable guards of freedom on the Black Sea for a long time." Rosetti did not rule out that further units could be transferred to Ukraine from the US Navy and Coast Guard reserves - in particular, Cape and Point types 1950-1960-type patrol boats. The "review" is also a few miraculously survived LST-type tank landing ships of military construction. "We are now" vacuuming "the composition of our reserve fleet not only in Sassun Bay, but also in other conservation sites, trying to determine what we can give to the Ukrainians," said Rosetti.

At the same time, an unnamed high-ranking American naval officer in an interview with the portal indicated expressed doubt that the Ukrainian Navy would have enough trained personnel to receive and master such large ships as Planetree and Iris in a relatively short time.
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  1. JoylyRoger
    JoylyRoger April 2 2014 06: 30
    +10
    And as a museum they can be used.
    God is on you that we do not care)))
    Go figured out how much their cutting for scrap will cost, with subsequent disposal, and it turned out to be more profitable to give to Ukraine.
    What else to expect from them? Oh. Yes, an additional 10000 dry rations)))
    1. Tersky
      Tersky April 2 2014 06: 34
      +7
      On you, my God, that is not good for me .... "virtue" of the Yankers knows no boundaries ... wassat
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 2 2014 06: 45
      +8
      But will they reach Ukraine, but will they not drown? Crew of suicide bombers already recruited? Ukraine has already licked gratitude to Obama?
      And it's called restore wassat
      1. major071
        major071 April 2 2014 06: 52
        +28
        Didn’t they find anything older? Well, there are armadillos or monitors of the late 19 century? You can still transfer the cannons with the cores, like there is gunpowder in Ukraine. laughing
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 2 2014 07: 02
          +5
          Quote: major071
          Didn’t they find anything older?

          What happened, the Americans no longer knew where to put them, but then oops luck, the Ukrainian fleet needs to be restored laughing
          1. Lissyara
            Lissyara April 2 2014 08: 42
            +3
            And what? It sounds proud! Floating (it is swimming, and sailors go) museum. In Ukraine, the rubbish-scrap will pick up. From the Crimea, from the States. Now the Germans are still where the thread will be dug up a couple of submarines from the First World War (and what, Ukrainian submariners are not used to the 44 year old boat. Where 44, there are 100 years - the difference is not so hot) smile
      2. a52333
        a52333 April 2 2014 07: 03
        +3
        It's time for our fleet to open the kingstones. Where nafig against such a force .... crying
      3. spech
        spech April 2 2014 07: 14
        +4
        it doesn’t fall apart just because its birds are fucked up (raise the periscope)
        1. Sergh
          Sergh April 2 2014 07: 37
          +3
          Quote: spech
          it doesn’t fall apart just because

          Damn, since the beginning of the article, I thought that all Omerikan aircraft carriers are transferring to Ukraine. At first, of course, I started to run and ran to the bolcon, suddenly the masts loomed at sunrise, and then I remembered, well, hell, I’m in Siberia ... I’m sorry, guys, the news came out, I repent, it won’t happen again.
          1. Lissyara
            Lissyara April 2 2014 09: 44
            0
            In, found! History of the sailing fleet of Ukraine.
          2. The comment was deleted.
      4. gorku68
        gorku68 April 2 2014 09: 07
        +3
        To finish, finish ... And there again these necessary and washed vessels of Russia will depart ... together with Odessa, Nikolaev ...
        1. APASUS
          APASUS April 2 2014 19: 43
          0
          Quote: gorku68
          Come on, go on.

          These ships are in Sesun Bay (California), it’s not from Nikolaev on foot. Or do the Ukrainian Navy expect the mattresses to deliver them to Odessa? Can the ships withstand such a long passage - old people already!
          Both of these ships were built in the years 1943-1944
      5. igor67
        igor67 April 2 2014 11: 57
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        But will they reach Ukraine, but will they not drown? Crew of suicide bombers already recruited? Ukraine has already licked gratitude to Obama?
        And it's called restore wassat

        Hi Sanya, everywhere on the sites there is the same information on these two lighthouse tenders, but now I am tormented by vague doubts about this picture dated 2007, then there is a ship with the Ukrainian flag, so this news has been around for seven years? Like yesterday, information on raising the T34 tank in Estonia in 2000?. And I also read the following information: April 1, 2014, 08:13
        The fate of the fleet

        It’s not entirely clear what it was (the last sentence): whether Admiral Chirkov’s direct speech or some own interpretation of the RIA editorial board, based on previous statements

        "Today, on the territory of Russia, in the Crimea and Sevastopol, there are ships of the Black Sea Fleet of Ukraine. They have been revised: 79 ships, of which 25 are combat," Chirkov said.
        In the near future, these ships will be transferred to Ukraine.


        UPD. Ukrainian media write:

        Corvette "Ternopil" is the first to be prepared for redeployment from Crimea to mainland Ukraine. This was stated at a briefing in the Verkhovna Rada by People's Deputy Andrei Senchenko, a UNN correspondent reports.
        “We had consultations. We were assured that there would be no complications, today by the end of the day a schedule for the redeployment of ships, equipment, aviation should be agreed ... The first ship that we are preparing for redeployment is Ternopil. "Kirovograd" from Donuzlav ", - said Senchenko.
        According to him, about 70 vessels need to be relocated from Crimea.
        "Today, only two ships have problems with redeployment, while others can be redeployed without problems," the people's deputy said.
        Senchenko added that the final schedule for the relocation of ships, aircraft and equipment from the Crimea will be agreed upon today.
    3. avant-garde
      avant-garde April 2 2014 06: 49
      +2
      Quote: JoylyRoger
      Oh. Yes, an additional 10000 dry rations)))

      Dry soldering has already gone to consumption as we expected laughing
      On Ukrainian sites, advertisements for the sale of MRE dry rations (meal-ready to-eat, "food ready to eat"), presumably received by Kiev as assistance from the United States, appeared.
      Here is the link if anyone suddenly wants to buy only 124.80 UAH wassat
      http://blackeagle.com.ua/catalog/aksessuary_dlya_otdykha/sukhpay_mre_amerikanski
      y/
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov April 2 2014 07: 04
        +2
        Quote: avant-garde
        Ads on the sale of dry rations MRE appeared on Ukrainian sites

        And you thought they would give them to the soldiers, they took a picture with the boxes and are free. Next, the authorities began to calculate the benefits of the upcoming deals wassat
        1. Tersky
          Tersky April 2 2014 07: 17
          +3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          .Next, the authorities began to calculate the benefits of upcoming transactions

          The cost of one dry 124 hryvnia. How much, how much did the Americans promise to allocate there? Where is my calculator ... laughing ! Hello Sasha!
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov April 2 2014 07: 28
            0
            Quote: Tersky

            The cost of one dry 124 hryvnia

            330 000 thousand paiks like that 40 920 000 hryvnias. A bargain, unless the hryvnia collapses laughing
            hi Vit hi
    4. vlad_m
      vlad_m April 2 2014 07: 02
      0
      What else to expect from them? Oh. Yes, an additional 10000 dry rations)))


      Dry packs from the first batch in Ukraine have already been stolen:

      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/908/nerh8.jpg

      We are waiting for the launchboats of the mid-40s of the last century to appear in the ads.
    5. NOMADE
      NOMADE April 2 2014 07: 05
      +1
      Yes, then they will put them up for sale in Ebay laughing laughing Probably there are tube receivers of the 40s. In terms of weapons, they can with idle tanks, put towers with guns))
    6. Rusin Dima
      Rusin Dima April 2 2014 08: 19
      +1
      Wow!!!! No scary Russians are scary with such ships to the brave Bandera laughing
  2. smel
    smel April 2 2014 06: 31
    +1
    This will offset the Scythian gold already in the United States. You can also transfer the Indians' axes and write off this captured collection from the storerooms of Ukrainian museums
    1. Login_Off
      Login_Off April 2 2014 08: 32
      0
      Yes, good. After all, we also shove their rubbish back from Crimea to Ukraine, and at the same time for our own money :)
      This is no longer an army, but a military scrap dump.
  3. avant-garde
    avant-garde April 2 2014 06: 31
    +8
    US helps in the restoration of the Ukrainian Navy in recovering what, excuse me ???
  4. StrateG
    StrateG April 2 2014 06: 31
    +6
    Good help ... they seemed to help, and they didn't seem to be wasted.
  5. Dezinto
    Dezinto April 2 2014 06: 32
    +6
    Mattresses continue the practice of supporting cookies.
    1. sniper
      sniper April 2 2014 18: 14
      +2
      Quote: DEZINTO
      Mattresses continue the practice of supporting cookies.

      Well, don’t tell ... A cookie is a useful thing, you can put it together, unless of course it’s very old ... But where can these troughs be adapted ???
      As expected, Ukrainian flags on both ships will be raised in San Francisco "in the next three to four months", after which the ships will leave for Odessa,

      That is, pickup .... Duc here again denyushka needed, but where to get ??? And if there is, then what then ??? Is it possible to flood ourselves, and to dump on Oskaley metro station? So it’s still necessary to reach Odessa ... The Yankees propose dark business, oh dumb ... wassat
  6. mamont5
    mamont5 April 2 2014 06: 33
    +2
    "The Ukrainian Navy lost the main part of the ship composition during the Russian military invasion of Crimea"
    Not the invasion, but the reunification of Crimea with Russia.

    "The US Navy urgently prepared and began to implement the decision to quickly transfer to Ukraine, free of charge, for use as patrol ships of two former lighthouse tenders from the American Coast Guard."
    I hope that these ships are in good condition, otherwise Amers will have to file a complaint, because something tells me that soon these ships will also raise the St. Andrew flag.

    "We are now" vacuuming "the composition of our reserve fleet not only in Sesun Bay, but also in other places of conservation, trying to determine what we can give to the Ukrainians," Rosetti said. "
    Come on, Americans, pick up the ships slowly, we don’t need.
  7. Mihail177
    Mihail177 April 2 2014 06: 34
    +2
    Both of these ships were built in the years 1943-1944
    Household p.i.n.dos, antiques are cherished. They will look good with the boat "Zaporozhye"! good
    1. dimdimich71
      dimdimich71 April 2 2014 06: 58
      +1
      Ukraine collects antiques, soon read in the retro-style media exhibition
    2. bvi1965
      bvi1965 April 2 2014 09: 25
      +1
      Not economic, but greedy. This scrap is cheaper than cutting it. And for divers to flood "TOAD" strangles.
  8. Roman Skomorokhov
    Roman Skomorokhov April 2 2014 06: 36
    +2
    Specialists in the Navy, enlighten, do these hetman have any chance of crawling to Ukraine?

    In general, the article has a feeling of afig some. It seems like I missed everything. It turns out there was a Russian invasion of Crimea. It turns out that Ukraine had a fleet ... Either I am from another planet, or the author.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 2 2014 06: 46
      +1
      Quote: Banshee
      Specialists in the Navy, enlighten, do these hetman have any chance of crawling to Ukraine?

      I'm not special, but there are always chances laughing
      1. sniper
        sniper April 2 2014 18: 18
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        but there are always chances

        Yeah, 50 to 50 or they will reach Odessa, or they’ll lie to the bottom ... they won’t fly to the top ... wassat
    2. Nayhas
      Nayhas April 2 2014 07: 02
      +3
      Quote: Banshee


      Specialists in the Navy, enlighten, do these hetman have any chance of crawling to Ukraine?

      This is similar to an April Fools' joke with a delay that reached this site.
  9. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee April 2 2014 06: 36
    +5
    God, we are worthless. But nothing rare was found? lol
  10. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb April 2 2014 06: 36
    +2
    He expressed doubt that the Ukrainian Navy will have enough trained personnel to accept and master such large ships for them as Planetree and Iris in a relatively short time.

    laughing Large and complex.
  11. Name
    Name April 2 2014 06: 38
    +3
    Greetings to all! All this should be regarded as: Ukraine is a scrap center and no more, because. "Both of these ships were built between 1943-1944." are nothing more than scrap metal. The Americans laughed, laughed at the "nezalezhnoy" ...
  12. Tatarus
    Tatarus April 2 2014 06: 39
    +1
    "Both of these ships were built in 1943-1944"

    "As the head of the US Navy Assistance Program to Ukraine, Commander Giuseppe 'Gyp' Rosetti, told the source, 'these excellent ships will raise the potential of the Ukrainian Navy to a new level and will become reliable guards of freedom in the Black Sea for a long time."

    What can I say ... Let the Shermans present for the kit

    [img]http://im0-tub-ru.yandex.net/i?id=134014031-50-72&n=21[/img]
  13. svoi
    svoi April 2 2014 06: 41
    +5
    was transferred as an aid for use as patrol ships to other countries (in particular, Nigeria, Ghana, the Dominican Republic, El Salvador and Estonia).
    The list is very symbolic. Ukram show who they are
    "These excellent ships will raise the potential of the Ukrainian Navy to a new level and become reliable guards of freedom in the Black Sea for a long time."You cannot refuse a sense of humor to amers.
  14. sasha.28blaga
    sasha.28blaga April 2 2014 06: 42
    +1
    Yes, that so much to mock Independence. Either the tanks are quiet or non-functional for them at all, then the packs for a week of an entire army. Let us help them for the present, we’ll at least send their guns. For example, TOZ-21.
    1. sniper
      sniper April 2 2014 18: 20
      0
      Quote: sasha.28blaga
      at least send them guns. For example, TOZ-21.

      And on a fig ??? all the same, about .... they drink, so can they immediately help with fat and a burner ???
  15. Humpty
    Humpty April 2 2014 06: 43
    +1
    Lebedinsky remembered "I will go out on the roof, look at Aurora" Let them rejoice, but how can this be understood, except for outright mockery.
  16. ser fuz
    ser fuz April 2 2014 06: 47
    +1
    If Ukraine itself does not respect itself as a state, it will accept this trash.
    1. ya.seliwerstov2013
      ya.seliwerstov2013 April 2 2014 06: 57
      +1
      A gift is not a purchase: they do not find fault, but praise. laughing
      1. ser fuz
        ser fuz April 2 2014 17: 31
        0
        Pentos give only paid
  17. Bad_Santa99
    Bad_Santa99 April 2 2014 06: 52
    0
    At this pace, an old American aircraft carrier flying the flag of Ukraine will soon be on sale on E-Bay)))
    Suhpai already sell
  18. poccinin
    poccinin April 2 2014 06: 54
    0
    They are now helping the UKRAINIAN Air Force to put "Mustangs" and in the army "Shermans" they do not lose anything and there you look the Germans will give them a U-3000 for the fleet from the bottom, will be painted and sent.
  19. Gino
    Gino April 2 2014 06: 56
    +4
    laughing good joke on April 1st.
    1. dimdimich71
      dimdimich71 April 2 2014 07: 01
      0
      Even better — Aurora headed for Alaska
  20. Trofimov Andrey
    Trofimov Andrey April 2 2014 06: 57
    0
    No comment ...
  21. pv1005
    pv1005 April 2 2014 07: 00
    +2
    And for the revival of aviation in Ukraine, the Wright brothers will prepare and destroy the aircraft.
  22. Rohon
    Rohon April 2 2014 07: 04
    +1
    Yes, Ukraine is slowly turning into a world dump ...
  23. visitor
    visitor April 2 2014 07: 06
    +1
    Take it wretchedly that we do not care. It sounds right
  24. designer_59
    designer_59 April 2 2014 07: 07
    0
    ... transferred as an aid for use as patrol ships to other countries (in particular, Nigeria, Ghana ...

    Africa - the level at which the United States put Ukraine.
  25. koksalek
    koksalek April 2 2014 07: 08
    0
    A case of the Air Force are not going to recover?
  26. Flinky
    Flinky April 2 2014 07: 09
    +1
    Everything is correct. And in the holds to drive a couple dozen Shermans. Svidomity love to revel in museum exhibits.
  27. sigizmund472
    sigizmund472 April 2 2014 07: 13
    +2
    And also, in the shortest possible time, frigates "Santa Maria", "Pinta" and "Nina" will be transferred to the Ukrainian Navy ...
  28. voveim
    voveim April 2 2014 07: 13
    +2
    Well, now, instead of one "hetman", the Ukrainian Navy will have three! And they also have 11 admirals - more than three for each "hetman". Invincible armada!
  29. Ilja 22
    Ilja 22 April 2 2014 07: 15
    0
    This is a circus laughing laughing once again amused, well done democrats, supply Ukraine, some support all over the world, do not mind anything! Once again they showed their worthlessness lol
  30. Nayhas
    Nayhas April 2 2014 07: 18
    +2
    Dear site administrators, before you print the materials published on April 1, you probably need to be critical of the content so as not to embarrass yourself by retyping them the next day, when the reader is not looking for an April Fool’s catch.
  31. waisson
    waisson April 2 2014 07: 25
    +1
    removed from museum anchors and will be commissioned by the Ukrainian Navy
    battleships iowa-alabama-wisconsin-massachusats-missouri-new jersey
    aircraft carriers-hornet-interpid
    steamship tug-lon star
    steamboat ferry milwaukee
    bark beijing
    PHOTO OF ONE DINOSAUR laughing
    1. rasputin17
      rasputin17 April 2 2014 08: 02
      0
      Yes, gentle, is this dinosaur able to swim ?? The main thing is that he would not be a flood during the transition from p.i.nd.do.si.i !!! laughing The truth is that for free, vinegar is sweet and bleach is curd !!
  32. drop
    drop April 2 2014 07: 43
    +4
    Dear readers, we are wasting irony in vain. The United States, in order to spoil Russia, will transfer to Ukraine and other decommissioned ships. The main thing for them is to litter our Black Sea. It is advisable to prepare international agreements on minimizing the Ukrainian fleet, as there once were agreements on Germany. This is not a joke with Ukraine. This country is turning into a state hostile to us. It is advisable to raise the population of Ukraine and generally separate it from the sea like other European states. Here is the result of the policies of Gorbachev and Yeltsin. I am scared for our grandchildren. I have the honor.
  33. rasputin17
    rasputin17 April 2 2014 07: 56
    +1
    Both of these ships were built in 1943-1944 and belong to the large family of 1000-ton "180-foot" US Coast Guard lighthouse ships built during the Second World War (Planetree belongs to the "B" series, and the Iris to the "series" FROM"). Vessels of this family were withdrawn from the US Coast Guard in the 1990-2000s, and some of them were then transferred as assistance for use as patrol ships to other countries (in particular, Nigeria, Ghana, the Dominican Republic, El Salvador and Estonia).


    God, it’s not good for us !! Russia is getting rid of Ukrainian scrap metal in the Crimea, and good Yankees from their illiquid assets at home as a humanitarian aid of impoverished self-family !!))) laughing
  34. kare
    kare April 2 2014 08: 10
    +1
    Curious, when they decide to restore the Air Force, what will they offer? Probably whatnot recourse
  35. Andrey Ulyanovsky
    Andrey Ulyanovsky April 2 2014 08: 22
    0
    When the schooners are mastered, the pissed rags on the sails will be delivered in the second tranche.
  36. ed65b
    ed65b April 2 2014 08: 45
    0
    dill need to offer combat kayaks and canoes. And of course it's sad. dill have nowhere to put their garbage, but here in general since the Second World War. Very similar to outright mockery.
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas April 2 2014 09: 07
      +1
      Quote: ed65b
      dill need to offer combat kayaks and canoes. And of course it's sad. dill have nowhere to put their garbage, but here in general since the Second World War. Very similar to outright mockery.

      bllllllll .... this is an April Fools joke bmpd!
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 April 2 2014 09: 54
        0
        Well, you’re so worried. They have written about it three times already. Nowadays, such jokes are coming from Ukraine every day, as if they had April Fools there every day.
  37. GRAY
    GRAY April 2 2014 08: 45
    0
    It is interesting what the Ukrainian press will write about this. I suppose they will flog that they drove the carrier group.
  38. Lyton
    Lyton April 2 2014 09: 01
    0
    It’s not funny for the mattresses themselves, if the Missouri had been presented here, the Bandera would have been delighted.
  39. SAM0SA
    SAM0SA April 2 2014 09: 06
    +1
    from Kiev, documents have already been received on the assignment of names to both units, respectively, "Hetman Mazepa" and "Hetman Baida-Vishnevetsky"

    The names of Mazep and Baid are quite appropriate ...
    Iowa is definitely not shining for them.
  40. stayer
    stayer April 2 2014 09: 34
    0
    Amerikonsy go and still money from Ukraine for this cut down as for the latest ships.
  41. xperia
    xperia April 2 2014 10: 05
    0
    Let the USA then deliver fighters of the Second World War era instead of the destroyed 23! years of the most powerful aviation (4 in the world in quantitative terms for 1992). This will increase the potential of the Ukrainian Air Force laughing
  42. Smiles to you
    Smiles to you April 2 2014 10: 24
    +1
    News like. how it draws on an April Fools' joke. But just like that, the Yankers will not give anything. Like the same trash BUT it is only in sight. It seems to me that they are stuffed with Radio-Electronic equipment, that is, they will make the Intelligence-Kalosh ... IMHO
  43. Ross
    Ross April 2 2014 10: 33
    0
    Quote: Tersky
    On you, my God, that is not good for me .... "virtue" of the Yankers knows no boundaries ... wassat

    Help? More likely a mockery. Very similar to April Fools' humor.
  44. Wiruz
    Wiruz April 2 2014 10: 46
    0
    Why rebuild the Ukrainian Navy if Ukraine does not have access to the sea soon. All coastal regions are not today - tomorrow they will move to Russia.
  45. awg75
    awg75 April 2 2014 11: 15
    0
    Commander Giuseppe "Gyp" Rosetti, head of the US Navy Assistance Program for Ukraine, told the source that "these excellent ships will raise the potential of the Ukrainian Navy to a new level and will become reliable guards of freedom in the Black Sea for a long time." ......... U-HA-HA-HA ....
    I've been laughing too much lately. humorists delight every day with something new. IF THESE EXCELLENT SHIPS CAN GET TO ODESSA, IT WILL BE DANGEROUS FOR OUR RUSSIAN SHIPS TO GET OUT TO THE SEA, AND THE RK "MOSCOW" GENERALLY HAVE TO FLOOR THAT MAYDONOUT
  46. Leshka
    Leshka April 2 2014 11: 22
    0
    and they will be painful that they will almost be sent aircraft carriers
    1. Andrey Ulyanovsky
      Andrey Ulyanovsky April 2 2014 12: 34
      0
      Ratsuh dill - should be invited to cooperate with this
      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/124/dfui189.jpg

      and the thing is in the hat - beekeepers MAZyop and Ointment Vishnevsky (you can also have an amphibious version) http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/092/imgl48.jpg
  47. alexgrin
    alexgrin April 2 2014 12: 58
    +1
    Why does everyone get rid of trash and make a sensation out of it?
  48. 111 soldier
    111 soldier April 2 2014 13: 17
    +3
    ahaha !! this is what they pull themselves into a black hole !!
  49. razved
    razved April 2 2014 13: 54
    +1
    This is called: "God take it that I do not like." In general, an interesting selection of countries ...
  50. kelevra
    kelevra April 2 2014 18: 38
    0
    Again, the Americans mock Ukraine. Such old ships give them, they only triple the massive sinking!